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Speaker 1 (00:02):
So Cody leaves, so he asks for his release, he
leaves WWE. He did something I thought was very interesting
that I've never seen anyone do before. He made the list.
He made a list. This was before Chris Jericho's list, right,
He made a list of people he wanted to face
on the independen scene.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I mean, I mean he went on a major barnstorming
Ybe tour. Yeah, like he hit every major promotion and
then once his name got big, New Japan jumped on
the Cody bandwagon. Then Ring of Honor King calling and
(00:44):
no Ring of Honor was first.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Then New Japan.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, that's when it was okay, we got this.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It's not group, well they weren't.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
They were big, but they were about to become nuclear.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
The Bullet Club, the.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Bullet Club, and when Cody mixing with the Bullet Club
just one of those things that happened at the right time.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You can't predict it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You can't, you can't do anything. But once it happens,
ride that Lightning Bowl and the New Japan did to
internet pay per view and things just took off. Hot topic,
T shirt deals. I remember you know.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
You, it's you.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Sat there and said Monday Night Raw sucks, SmackDown sucks,
but there was never any challenge to be better.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Right then the.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Bullet Club hit and it's like that's it because there
was always Ring of Honor, there was always New Japan,
there was always the indies, but there wasn't this Pruss.
There wasn't this pressure on Vince.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah. Yeah, the wrestling business has to have there has
to be competitive forces within the business or otherwise otherwise
everybody gets complacent and a little bit lazy.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It just happens, you know, And I think a lot
of this was wrestling fans wanted something new, and they
got it with the Bullet Club, and they got it
with Cody Rhoades. They got it with Kenny Omega met
and Nick Jackson, the Villain, Marty Scroll, Hangman, Adam Page.
(02:50):
Adam Cole was a member of the Bullet Club until
he was unceremoniously kicked out.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And then New Japan announces we're going to partner up
with Ring of Honor, and that's when it really exploded,
because now you had an American outlet where these guys could.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Go and perform.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I remember when I realized it was big twenty seventeen.
Summer twenty seventeen, Ring of Honor announces their.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Global Wars tour.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I'm going to look this up because the original date
for ROH Global Wars was one date only Columbus, Ohio,
(03:57):
and one star was announced.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah Kenny Omega.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Okay, we love Kenny Omega, the.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Best bout machine easily one of the top ten greatest
of all time.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yep, yep, without a doubt. You then.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Sold out in thirty minutes. Yeah, so then they're like, well,
let's add more in. Kenny Omega said, I'll do all
the dates. So it expanded to starting in Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Columbus,
and ending in Chicago, Sorry, Billa Park, Illinois, Suburban Chicago,
(04:53):
Chicago Expo Center. Yeah, it sold out.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, all four shows sold out.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And you know what they Ring of Honor Honor Club said,
membership went through the rough because they did something very interesting.
Buffalo was not even streamed at all the first night. Yeah,
but night two, Global Wars Pittsburgh was ipay per view. No,
(05:34):
Global Wars Pittsburgh wasn't streamed, it was done for TV taping.
Global Wars Columbus was streamed as a part of Honor
Club Global Wars Chicago. The last night, that was the
night that they did the they did the ipay per view.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
In the ipayper you crashed.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So for anyone who doesn't know, just so we're clear,
so an I pay per view, a pay per view
that's strictly on the internet rather than the traditional with
the you know, through satellite and the cable companies and everything,
and uh. And that crashed during the event.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, it crashed.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I mean they got it back up pretty quickly, and
it crashed right around intermission, so as luck would have it.
But I remember they cut a promo and Cody Rhodes
in the middle of the ring at the end.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Said pro wrestling is cool again.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
And then the next day they did a meet and
greet at Pro Wrestling Tease that sold out in twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I mean, my god, just plenty money that weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And you you realized that that was the precepice of
this idea. Well, they just sold out for not I
wouldn't call them marinas, but for five thousand C clubs.
(07:18):
And they did it in areas that have a heavy
wrestling footprint. But if they could sell five thousand with promotion,
What could they do
So Cody leaves, so he asks for his release, he
leaves WWE. He did something I thought was very interesting
that I've never seen anyone do before. He made the list.
He made a list. This was before Chris Jericho's list, right,
He made a list of people he wanted to face
on the independen scene.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I mean, I mean he went on a major barnstorming
Ybe tour. Yeah, like he hit every major promotion and
then once his name got big, New Japan jumped on
the Cody bandwagon. Then Ring of Honor King calling and
(00:44):
no Ring of Honor was first.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Then New Japan.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, that's when it was okay, we got this.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It's not group, well they weren't.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
They were big, but they were about to become nuclear.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
The Bullet Club, the.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Bullet Club, and when Cody mixing with the Bullet Club
just one of those things that happened at the right time.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You can't predict it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You can't, you can't do anything. But once it happens,
ride that Lightning Bowl and the New Japan did to
internet pay per view and things just took off. Hot topic,
T shirt deals. I remember you know.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
You, it's you.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Sat there and said Monday Night Raw sucks, SmackDown sucks,
but there was never any challenge to be better.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Right then the.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Bullet Club hit and it's like that's it because there
was always Ring of Honor, there was always New Japan,
there was always the indies, but there wasn't this Pruss.
There wasn't this pressure on Vince.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah. Yeah, the wrestling business has to have there has
to be competitive forces within the business or otherwise otherwise
everybody gets complacent and a little bit lazy.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It just happens, you know, And I think a lot
of this was wrestling fans wanted something new, and they
got it with the Bullet Club, and they got it
with Cody Rhoades. They got it with Kenny Omega met
and Nick Jackson, the Villain, Marty Scroll, Hangman, Adam Page.
(02:50):
Adam Cole was a member of the Bullet Club until
he was unceremoniously kicked out.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And then New Japan announces we're going to partner up
with Ring of Honor, and that's when it really exploded,
because now you had an American outlet where these guys could.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Go and perform.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I remember when I realized it was big twenty seventeen.
Summer twenty seventeen, Ring of Honor announces their.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Global Wars tour.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I'm going to look this up because the original date
for ROH Global Wars was one date only Columbus, Ohio,
(03:57):
and one star was announced.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah Kenny Omega.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Okay, we love Kenny Omega, the.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Best bout machine easily one of the top ten greatest
of all time.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yep, yep, without a doubt. You then.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Sold out in thirty minutes. Yeah, so then they're like, well,
let's add more in. Kenny Omega said, I'll do all
the dates. So it expanded to starting in Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Columbus,
and ending in Chicago, Sorry, Billa Park, Illinois, Suburban Chicago,
(04:53):
Chicago Expo Center. Yeah, it sold out.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, all four shows sold out.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And you know what they Ring of Honor Honor Club said,
membership went through the rough because they did something very interesting.
Buffalo was not even streamed at all the first night. Yeah,
but night two, Global Wars Pittsburgh was ipay per view. No,
(05:34):
Global Wars Pittsburgh wasn't streamed, it was done for TV taping.
Global Wars Columbus was streamed as a part of Honor
Club Global Wars Chicago. The last night, that was the
night that they did the they did the ipay per view.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
In the ipayper you crashed.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So for anyone who doesn't know, just so we're clear,
so an I pay per view, a pay per view
that's strictly on the internet rather than the traditional with
the you know, through satellite and the cable companies and everything,
and uh. And that crashed during the event.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, it crashed.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I mean they got it back up pretty quickly, and
it crashed right around intermission, so as luck would have it.
But I remember they cut a promo and Cody Rhodes
in the middle of the ring at the end.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Said pro wrestling is cool again.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
And then the next day they did a meet and
greet at Pro Wrestling Tease that sold out in twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I mean, my god, just plenty money that weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And you you realized that that was the precepice of
this idea. Well, they just sold out for not I
wouldn't call them marinas, but for five thousand C clubs.
(07:18):
And they did it in areas that have a heavy
wrestling footprint. But if they could sell five thousand with promotion,
What could they do
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