TM - Episode 03: Jerry Maguire

Cameron Crowe’s Jerry Maguire is a movie about many things but chief among them is a sports agent. Mike and Lance discuss Crowe’s masterpiece, their history with the film, its many layers, and why it’s Lance’s favorite movie of all time.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the Nude Polite Welcome everybodyto another edition of Training Montage, our

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sports movie podcast. Today it's aspecial treat for everybody because we are talking
about one of the best sports filmsever made and also just coincidentally, is
also my favorite movie of all time, the great Yes, the great Jerry
McGuire. Yes, Yes. Now, before we get into Jerry McGuire,

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I have to ask as just tofollow up to our previous podcast. You
know, we don't want to leavepeople hanging, and I don't want to
be left hanging myself. Yeah,so did you watch The Suicide Squad?
I did watch the Suicide Squad?And what did you think about the Suicide
Squad? It was all right?I didn't hate it, Okay, it

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was all right. I I thinkI came out of that basically being like
and like, I mean like,because I didn't ask for this movie.
I didn't want another Suicide Squad movie. And you know, if all of
the DC things that I don't want, this was right up there at the
top of the list, us Ijust don't I just don't care for it

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or the characters involved, any ofthat type of stuff. There are stuff
in there that I liked there arestuff in there that was really funny.
King Shark, as I predicted,would be my favorite thing about it,
and he definitely was. Um,Like all of his little things were I
thought were hilarious. So, youknow, Peacemaker like that was like,
that was a really good one.Um. And like people's like reactions to

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things, like when they were annoyedby things. I thought that was funny.
But I thought the movie was kindof weird, Like it was kind
of weird and segmented, you know, you know what I mean, Like
because like especially the whole like indiemovie featuring Harley in the middle, and
I was like, what is this? Uh? But yeah, so I
just thought it was all right.Did you love it? Um, I'd
say that I loved it? Yeah, you know, I mean I think

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it had been built up so muchin the weeks leading up to it,
because you know, the reviews comingin were like, this is one of
the best comic book movies ever.Yeah, they were very positive. I
mean people are saying it's the bestof the DCU and all that stuff,
and yeah, I mean I'd stillput Birds of Prey ahead of it,
um, but I'd say it's betterthan all the others. But I did

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think that, um, it wasreally good, you know. I mean
my expectations were super high, andyou know, it really does work for
me at least. Um. Youknow. One of the cool things that
I think is just how sort ofsubversive it is, Like it's it is
a major motion picture from a majormedia conglomerate, which is all about like

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how you know America, like yeah, you know us, yeah, like
all other countries and yeah, thatthat you know, quote unquote twist.
That was just like, well,this is not a twist, like I
mean, like I could have predictedthat, like, let's come on now,
it's a twist because it's it's youknow, because you wouldn't expect to
see that in a in a moviereally, but um, I mean in

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a movie like this. But atthe same time, I guess Suicide Squad
in its nature, like that's whatit's about, right, I mean,
Amanda Waller is not the good guy, right, No, not really,
She's not Nick Fury, no notreally. So so yeah, I mean
I thought that that was pretty cool. I did think it was really funny
and and and everything and the actionsequences were fantastic, So yeah, I

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mean, this year, I thinkhas been kind of a week er year
for movies from a critical standpoint,but I would say this is probably the
best movie of the year so far. So uh yeah, um, I
liked it a lot. But anyway, we're not talking about Suicide Squad.

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We're talking about Jerry McGuire, That'sright. Yeah, a movie which was
a surprise, I think to alot of people. I mean, I
don't know what your personal history iswith this movie, but I remember opening
night of this movie. I didn'tsee it, okay, because I went
to see another movie that came outthat night, Mars Attacks. Ah Okay.

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I could not wait for Mars Attacks. I was looking forward that movie
so much. And I remember callingup the Yorktown Theater, which was the
closest theater to me that had likea THHX defied auditorium and everything, and
I was like, um, Icalled them up, and I'm like,
is Mars Attacks going to be inTHX or is it going to be Jerry

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McGuire. And they're like, Iover, like the person who I talked
to had to ask, you know, and they're like, which one's going
to be in THHX? And Ioverheard someone, I guess the manager there
saying, oh lord, who's askingthat question? Of course it's going to
be Mars Attacks. Of course that'sgoing to be the huge success this weekend,

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which I think is what everybody thought, you know. And then I
looked at the box office, youknow, on Sunday morning or whatever it
is, and it's like, oh, I guess Jerry McGuire was I guess
they should have put Jerry McGuire inthe THHX auditorium. So thanks guys.
Anyway, but I didn't see themovie then. I didn't see it until
years later. When did you firstsee the movie? Yeah, I first

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saw that because I didn't see thisin theaters. I definitely did see Mars
Attacks theaters. But this movie Isaw on HBO, like on some random
I remember, because it was likesome random weekend like when my parents weren't
home when I was like in middleschool all right, and I had I
didn't really know what it was about. Like I saw a trailer for it,

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like while like on HBO. Iwas like, huh, this looks
interesting, you know, you knowfootball sports movie looked like a little buddy
cop thing going on with you know, with with Jerry and and um with
you know, with Tom and CubigantJunior. And I was like, Okay,
I'll watch it. And it wasway more than I anticipated it being.
And then basically what ended up happeningwas I loved it, and then

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I kept like ordering it on HBO, Like I just kept like, like
I did, I think I watchedit like that weekend, I watched it
like six times or so, andthen I just like every weekend, it
seems like I just kept watching it. And so from then point that point
on, like I was like,this is this is this is my favorite
movie. This is so good.It's like it's it works with so many

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levels. Like I understood this,like, you know, as a younger
person than as I've gotten older.I was like, oh, this is
this is so good. Like peopledon't people just don't know how good this
movie is. It's so good.Well, it was a surprise at the
time for sure. You know,I don't think that anyone was expecting it
to be as successful as it was, But they were also weren't expecting it

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to be as good as it was, you know, I mean, but
to everyone's credit, you know,once it came out, it did get
that love. I mean it gotwhat it got, Yes, it did.
It was nominated for Best Picture,much like Field of Dreams. Um
much more deserving than Field of Dreamsif you ask me. But um,

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but yeah. But you know,you look at the poster for this movie,
which is like a shot of likethe back of Jerry Maguire's head as
he's smiling, and it's like,what does that even say about this movie?
It just says Tom cruises and andhe's you know, happy, yeah
or something. And it's like,okay, Like I see that as a

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sixteen year old, and I'm like, why would I watch this movie?
I don't, you know. Theposter from Ours Attacks going back to that
is like a bunch of like greenbrains with you know, a little you
know, alien sticking out of it. And it's like that's the movie to
see, you know. And becauseof that, I just never bothered to

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watch Jerry Maguire until probably, Ithink it was probably when Almost Famous came
out. Okay. Another another favoriteof mine, Yes, which was is
vastly overlooked, especially at the time. Um and you know, from the
same director, Cameron Crow, Andyou know, I could not same writer
yes, and I could not waitfor that movie. I was so excited

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about that and it came out andit just blew me away. And I
think it was at that point intime where I'm like, I need to
go back and watch everything that thisguy has done, which at the time
is only like Say Anything, singlesand Jerry McGuire, But you know,
especially with Jerry McGuire. I mean, I love Say Anything and Singles is

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fine, but Jerry McGuire, Iwas like, Wow, this is really
really good. Yeah. So andand I've been a fan ever since.
But yeah, I mean it's weirdbecause I don't know whether it's because of
the poster or whatever, or thefact that it's about an agent, but

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it doesn't feel like a sports move. No, that's the other thing.
It's it's a rom com, youknow, like it's it's this or a
rom rom com drama. Yeah,rom dramedy, that's kind of what it
is. But like again, let'smovie has so many different layers because you
have the the best friendship romance thatthat happens between Jerry and Rod. You

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have the love story between you know, Jerry and and you know redde zee
Wegger, and you have the marriagestory between you know, uh you know,
Rod and Marcy, and you havethe little kid involved as well.
You have the whole meaning of life, uh you know plot in there with
with Jerry finding you know, thewhole finding your purpose thing. It's like

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there's there's all sorts of things thatare woven very intricately in this movie,
and it's it's it's done masterfully.Yeah, I agree. In addition to
all the sports stuff, that whichis all the sports stuff is legit.
It's not like it's not like itdoesn't feel like it's tacked on. It
doesn't feel like it's an afterthought orjust the backdrop to them so they could
do the other things. It's likeit's very much a part of the narrative

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the entire time. Yeah, It'san integral part of the movie. And
and they do a good job.I think is like, you know,
kind of weaving in reality by havingyou know, like actual professional athletes in
it playing themselves and all that stuff. I mean, that's a that's a
pretty nice touch. Yeah overall.Yeah, Yeah, So, I mean

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I do love this movie. Imean, I guess a big part of
it for me too, is isthe romance I think that that's extremely well
done, you know, that kindof like realistic portrayal of like oh they
have a happy ending, not reallyyou know, yeah, yeah, I
mean, well it's well, well, the thing is they do have one,
it almost didn't get there, right, And I think that was the

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the the realistic part of it,well, the really the realistic part of
it, like you know, reallycomes from you know, Dorothy's side,
right, Like, she has acrush on this guy, and she goes
the extra mile to try to likeyou know, to ingratiate herself to him
and does all these things to youknow, to be with him. And
then she realizes like, wait,this is probably not a good idea that

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we're together at all, right,like do we like do we even do
we even belong together? Right?And then it's you know, it's at
the end when you know, becauseJerry's whole journey throughout this time is trying
is finding out what's important in life. Right then he realizes at the ends
like, oh, well the stuffthat I've that I've took for granted and
built with you know, this thisgirl that I really liked but not really

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love, I actually do love her. And so that's why that's why it
works. But like you know,the realistic part of it is like how
Jerry is just kind of a loofIt just kind of like takes the whole
thing for granted, doesn't even realizewhat he has. Yeah, I mean
that love story is such a Imean that's probably like the main you know,

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the a plot of this story,right, And like I get that
there's all the sports stuff in andtwo, which makes it you know,
like like easier to spollow or whateverin a lot of ways. But I'm
just curious, like as like amiddle school kid, like I mean,
where you just like, oh,this this is the boring part. Like

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let's get back to the stuff withyou know, Ron Tidwell and you know,
the agency and everything, or likeoh, no, I was.
I was fully invested. I waslike, you know, i've I've I
was you know, annoyed with withJerry's like come on, man, I
was like, this is this isyou know, this is rene Zel worker
She like she likes you, man, like figure it out like so um

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So, No, I was fullyinvested in and in them. I was
fully invested in everything. I don'tknow again, I don't know what it
was that triggered what what this moviedid that triggered something in me? But
like I was not bored as ayounger person, like you know, watching
this or watching you know, likeI was like I was able to understand
everything that was going on, solike it was so no, it did
not bore me to be like,oh no, let's get back to the

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football part. It wasn't that atall. Yeah. Yeah. Um,
so, like looking at the sportsaspect though, you know, it is
interesting to see the sport in thiscase, I mean football more than anything
else, sort of like through theeyes of an agent, you know.

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I mean you always like hear aboutagents, but it's always like kind of
thought of as like, ah,the that that annoying person who's kind of
like in the background, Yeah youknow who people are on the landing,
even though you know, yeah,so exactly right. I mean, like
nobody cares about the agent. Nobodyreally knows what an agent does aside from

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like negotiating contracts. And I'm notsaying I mean who knows. I don't
know if this is a particularly accurateportrayal of a sports agent, but it's
interesting to see a story told fromthat perspective. At least. Yeah,
no, I agree, and andnot just like with football, but it
shows how important especially like back then, but also now because football you know,

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you hear, football is king andit's and it's because of the money
that it drives in the revenue thatit drives for so many different businesses,
um. So you know, whichis why you see both Jerry m Bob
Sugar competing so hard for for theirfootball clients and that's why they football clients
take the priority that they do.Um. And but also you get to

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see them, like you know,working with their other clients and all the
stuff that they have to say,like it's they're they're they're politicians, right,
like these agents that like the waythey talk to people, the way
they talk to their clients, theway that they um talk to people trying
to get them deals in the waythat they are they negotiate at the table,
like it's very much in that vein, you know, and and like

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that whole process is very interesting,like you know, like in the opening,
you know, in the opening expositionand monologue when he's talking about like
how many phone calls he makes makesa day, and like how he's constantly
on the road and how he's youknow, he's he's short with people like
he like people are a commodity tohim, right, And part of his
journey this movie is learning that peoplematter, right, which is ironic considering

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that, like, you know,his main client, the one that he
ends up with with Rod, youcan see, doesn't really value like teammates.
He doesn't like value people the sameway uh Jerry does. But like
you've but he has other values thathe passes on to Jerry. It's very
interesting again, it's it's very layered. Yeah, and you know, Ron

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Tidwell's arc is kind of like thereverse of Jerry's and sense you know,
there's that whole thing where he's like, you know, let me, you
know, you get you gotta putyour heart into the game. You gotta
love it, and then you know, help me, the quan will come
help me. It's it is crazy, like how many iconic like lines and

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everything came from this movie. Oh, I quote this all the time,
and nobody has any idea that I'msaying stuff from Jerry McGuire. Yeah,
I mean you could totally do that. But also you say, like show
me the money. Yeah, andeverybody knows that you're talking about Jerry McGuire
or you complete me or any Yeah. Yeah. But like if I get
like and if I'm with like friendsand like we know we're for example,

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like we're getting an uber or somethinglike I'll always say is it my imagination?
Or didn't we arrive in a limo? And people just kind of laugh.
It's like ha ha ha, wewere getting an uber black or whatever.
I'm just like, but they haveno idea that that's from Jerry McGuire.
Yeah, yeah, it's it's agood movie. I wonder how well
regarded it as these days, youknow, I kind of feel like people

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have forgotten it, I think,you know. I mean like I went
to a screening at like this youknow, Classic film series a few years
ago, and there was barely anybodythere, you know, and usually these
things get like a hundred people orsomething, and they were like five,
and I'm like, really, like, where is everybody? Like this is

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a great movie, you know,and I mean things like well Almost Famous,
you know, which wasn't nearly aspopular you know at the time,
like that has sort of like aresurgence or whatever, you know, say
anything to some extent, But JerryMcGuire for as big as it was at
the time, doesn't seem to havethat staying power for whatever reason. Yeah,

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I I don't know what it is, but it's it's a gem though,
and I think that like when peoplewatch it, they end up having
the same reactions that that we do, or at least, you know,
they come close to it. It'slike, oh, this is really good,
like they're surprised. Uh yeah,but the people that no, no,
yeah, I mean it's pretty crazyto think that like Tom Cruise made

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this movie and Mission Impossible, likein the same year. Well, like,
I mean it is crazy, butlike so is Tom, so it
makes sense. Yeah, yeah,I mean cheez, like he was just
like the king of the box office. Well, I guess Will Smith was
the king of the box office innineteen ninety six, but you know,

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he was a close second. Imean, two movies completely different in terms
of style, like demographic everything,and yet he just nailed it both times.
And he's really good in this youknow. Yeah, I mean so
is everybody else. Of course,Cuba Getting Junior won the Oscar, Yes,
he did, very famously and inhis acceptance, uh, he was
he basically turned turned into Rod Tidwellduring his acceptance, which I thought was

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funny. He's like, I loveeverybody. Oh, it's basically like his
ending thing, well, like whenhe gets his contract on the show.
Yeah. And and and you know, renaes Lwager, I mean, this
is the movie that made her astar. Yeah, this is what launched
her for sure. Yeah. Butthere's also like some other good sneaky performances
in here. Uh, Kelly Preston, hur you know r I p to
Kelly Preston. Uh, She's she'sgreat in this. And you talk about

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like, you know, the youknow, the the romance and this this
is the another realistic thing of this, you know, of this high strong,
you know, type a power couplenot working out right. Uh and
um, and so that was thatwas an interesting renkal in in in into
this and in the early part ofthe film, and I like how she
just kind of keeps popping up also, you know yeah, yeah, yeah,

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she's really good. And um,well, of course everybody loves the
kid Jonathan LIPNICKI right, yeah,everyone thinks he's app really adorable. Regina
King, you know, go showingup and then I mean she was like
her parts in this are like she'sso iconic in this. It's like,

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you know, like the first timeyou see her in the in Jerry's office
and she's like and she endsed justlike we came to play. It's just
like, dang girl, like shewas like, she's full force in this.
She's so good. You see herbefore you see Cuba Gooding Junior.
She's she's like the intro to thatar Yeah, like she sets you up
because because like it's like you thinkthat that that was a lot, it's

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like wait TV Rod. Yeah.And then of course Jerry O'Connell as the
number one draft pick who Commander JackCommander Jack Ransom from Star Trek Lowers.
You know, he's so good.He's hilarious. But yeah, yeah,

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a number of Star Trek connections inthis, the other one being um the
guy who you see he was likethe director of the commercials. He's like
rod get on the cattle right.Yeah, that's that's Mark Pellington, who's
an actual director. He made aton of music videos back in the day,

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including like Jeremy for Pearl Jam andstuff like that, and then he
became a filmmaker. He did ArlingtonRoad and The Mothman Prophecy both really good.
And then he's also directed a lotof TV, including UM, a
couple of short trucks for Star Trek. He did Q and A, the
one where their um Spock and Numberone are trapped in the turbo lift,

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and then and then he also didthe Uh, the one which sets up
Picard with the the two little girlswhose parents are killed in the Mars attack
and everything like that. But yeah, he's he's a really good, really
good filmmaker, and he's playing essentiallyhimself basically, which is kind of cool.

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Yeah, another thing which really standsout to me, And I don't
know, I mean, like thiswas kind of like you know, like
I was saying, I watched thisbecause of Almost Famous, because of my
sort of like um, it wasit was like a very sort of like
discovery phase, I guess for mein terms of like movies, Like you

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know, I'd see a new moviethat came out like almost Famous and be
like, oh my god, thatmovie's amazing. Now I need to say
everything that this filmmaker did, youknow, And that's what I did with
this. And it was always kindof like surprising because you'd see these movies
like on the video shelf and youwould just like gloss right over them,

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like that is not a movie forme. That looks like trash, you
know, like with James Cameron.You know, when I found out that
James Cameron directed True Lies, I'mlike, really, yeah, like he
did just like a crappy Arnold Schwarzeneggermovie, like all the other crappy Arnold
Schwarzenegger movies. So then you pickout that one from the shelf and you

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watch it and you're like, oh, this is really good, Like you
can tell on Arnold's name, man, I mean, yeah, there's fun.
I mean, hey, the yearthat this came out, he made
a Racer, Yeah, which wasa pretty great movie Your Luggage, you
know when he shoots he shoots thealligator. Yeah, that's a great one.
I've been meeting to revisit that moviefor the longest time. But yeah,

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Jerry McGuire is like one of thosemovies. But there's always like little
like surprises in there where it's like, Okay, this is from the director
of almost famous. Great But thenyou look at it too and it's like,
oh, well, this was photographedby Yanush Kaminski, who is you
know the movie that he did rightbefore this was Schindler's List, you know,

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and afterwards he became Steven Spielberg's goto cinema. He's shot every single
Spielberg movie since Shandler's List, youknow. And he also graduated from the
college that I was attending when Iwhen I saw this, you know,
I want to be a college inChicago, So that was kind of cool.
And you look at it and you'relike, oh my god, like
the photography and this little rom com, this throwaway movie, as you know,

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I was viewing it is like someof the best photography you'll ever see,
you know, Like they didn't justlike cheap out on this by any
stretch of the imagination. Yeah,that's true, and it shows, it
shows it's true. Yeah. Anotherthing about this this movie, you know,
going back to the sports angle ofit all, how uniquely correct it

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was at the portrayal of wide receivers, like the position that that that that
Rod plays and how they are theyhave this diva aspect to them because if
you look at like the you know, at you know, some of the
wide receivers that make a lot ofyou know, hype for themselves, like
you think of like Randy Moss.You think of the Joe Horns, they're
very look at me, Chad Johnsonor Chad Ocho Sinko, right literally changed

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his last name to be Ocho Sinkobecause his number was eighty five, like
the Keyshawn Johnson's like these people thattalk a lot, the very low loquacious
type of people. They you know, they talk fast, they talk,
they talk loud, they're very lookat me. They are flashy in all
the right and wrong ways. AndRod like plays that like perfectly. And

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it's also interesting that he kind oflike highlighted a need in pro football,
which was the position that he thathe also played specifically because he played wide
receiver, but specifically he was aslot receiver because you hear it, like,
you know, the Cardinals coaches talkabout how he wanted a prototypical wide
receiver who was you know, sixfour to whatever instead of you know,
five to eleven, and you know, was was a little bit more on

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the small side. But what heplayed was a slot receiver, right,
like more than the inside guy kindof like like Rod Tip was basically,
I guess the camp would be likea Wes Welker type or a Julian Edelman's
basically any of the Patriots little receivers, but like black. Like imagine if
like Tom Brady actually had like ablack receiver like him instead of like the
white guys. They didn't always throwingtoo. And that's an interesting part of

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this movie that I think is iskind of lost on people because like you
really start to see and they startedmarketing wide receivers a little bit more after
this. If you look at thetimeline, yeah, I mean that is
interesting. It's kind of like aheadof its time, and in that way,
you know, I mean, Imean, the other thing about it
is like just the way that theyuse like real people and you know,

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like Troy Aikman and Katerina Via youknow, show up at the end and
everything, and and it's like,yeah, you're from the super Bowl.
It's like yeah, like I rememberTroy from the super Bowl and and and
it's like one of those things where, especially now where we're like twenty five
years twenty five years since this moviecame out, um, and you don't

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necessarily remember all of the stars fromback in the day. Like it it
does a great job of like sortof like blending that stuff together where It's
like, is that person actually anathlete or an actor? Yeah? You

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know, that's it's pretty cool.Yeah. There's like, you know,
like Drew Bledsoe's in this, Um, Drew Rosenhaus the you know, he's
a high powered agent and is abig name agent. He's he makes a
cameo in this movie. Uh.Hey, they went to him for a
lot of research on on on therole. Interesting and uh there's a couple
others in there as well that thatare like, oh they actually got them

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to to be in this neat Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. Um.
The other role, which which Ialways find fascinating is um his mentor
who they keep on cutting fox like, yeah, who gives like a yeah
tomorrow is another day. Yep.That role was originally written for Billy Wilder,

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the iconic director of Some Like It, Hot in the Apartment and all
that stuff, because Billy Wilder,in a lot of ways was Cameron Crowe's
mentor. He Crowe, you know, grew up watching his movies and was
in love with them, which youcan tell just watching Crowe's movies, Like
Almost Famous is basically a remake ofthe Apartment. You know, in a

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lot of ways, which is kindof strange. And Crowe wrote a book
called Conversations with Wilder where he satdown and did tons and tons of interviews
with Billy Wilder going through Wilder's entirecareer, which is like really interesting.
And I think he was working onthe book when he was shooting Jerry Maguire

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and he asked, you know,Wilder to be in it in that role,
and Wilder was like, no,I'm not doing but you know that's
okay. It still works out prettywell, pretty well. And of course
music by Nancy Wilson from Hart whois married to Cameron Crowe. Um,

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yeah, good good move, myman, well done, good job.
And then um, a couple ofyears later, I guess after almost famous.
But you know, five years afterthis, uh, Tom Cruise reteemed
with Cameron Crowe to make Vanilla Sky. Yeah, well what did you think
about that? One thought that wasweird? Okay, I'd agree there's a

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lot of people who do not likethat movie. I personally love it.
I think, okay, kind ofa masterpiece. You know, Okay,
it was weird, like and I'veseen it a couple of times trying to
like, you know, I guessfigure it out figure out my feeling story.
But like I don't know, Ialways come up with because I think
I've seen it three times and Iwas like, there's there's something about this

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movie. Like the first time Iwatched it, and then I saw a
second time, I was like,I still don't exactly know what to make
of this. Um So, yeah, it's it's definitely weird, but it's
it's it's one of those that's veryintriguing. Not they'll like watch it again
with with older eyes to see ifI can come up with something definitive to
say about it. Yeah, Itry to find the director's cut. That's
that's pretty good. They changed theending because it was supposed to come out

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um well, and it did comeout just a few months after nine to
eleven, and the the end ofthe movie it was I mean, there
wasn't really any similarity to what happenedon nine to eleven, but there was,
you know, obviously everyone was kindof like sensitive to that to that

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topic at that particular point in time, so they changed it. But the
the original ending works a lot better. It's it's really kind of interesting.
So yeah, I don't know,in a lot of ways, I would
say, I think I prefer VanillaSkuy to Jerry McGuire, even though it's
a completely different movie but blasphemous.Yeah, and it's crazy like looking at

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Cameron Crowe's career like this stretch,I mean from the beginning, so like
say anything, great singles, okay, Jerry McGuire great, almost famous,
great, Vanilla Skuy in my opinion, great, and then after that he
just like dry like he did likeElizabethtown bought, Yeah, we bought a

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zoo Aloha, you know. Andthat was the one where they kept on
Yeah where emistone Yeah plays like aperson. Yeah, and everyone was upset
about that. Yeah, well Ishouldn't do that. Yeah, I mean
that was that was a that's probablyhis worst movie. Um, but yeah,

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I don't know what's going on.I mean I don't know. I
mean I'll always see whatever he doesbecause of stuff like Jerry McGuire, but
m h, I don't know.Oh well, so funny final thoughts on
Jerry McGuire. No, it's youknow, every again, Like I've seen

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and watched this movie pretty consistently sinceI was twelve, so you know,
it's my all time favorite movie.I know it inside it out. I
quote pieces of it every day,seemingly like in the little pieces, little
throway lines that you wouldn't even likethink about, I say all the time.
Um, I recommend this to everybody. People are very surprised when they

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say that when I say that thisis my favorite movie. Um, and
especially like when I when I when'tthey find out for the first time if
they know me, they know thatthis is my favorite movie. But um,
but yeah, I can't say enoughgood things about this film at all.
All right, I'm I'm in.I'm in agreement. I mean,
not my favorite movie of all time, but certainly a fantastic movie one should

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deserves to be revisited. If youhaven't seen it in a while, or
if you've never seen it at all, definitely check it out. Absolutely,
and I think an interesting take onthe sports movie because it is a look
at the sports industry more than thesport itself. Yeah, the game behind

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the game exactly. Yeah. Allright, so next time we have now
my I guess, my favorite sportsmovie ever, which is also a little
off the beaten path, but stilla movie which is very well regarded.

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The Big Lebowski. We didn't needto go bowling prior to just to get
in the mood. Yeah, yeah, all right, but until then,
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