TM - Episode 06 - Miracle

Mike and Lance celebrate the start of Hockey season with a look at Miracle.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the Nerd Paul team.Hello, and welcome to Training Montage,
the show on the Nerd Party wherewe talk about sports movies. I'm Mike,

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and it's been a big, abig week for well both of us.
I mean theoretically by the end ofthe day, right, I mean
it's just a few hours. We'llsee, We'll see. I'm still not
hoping quite yet, because you know, there is some other some other implications
at play. But yes, bothof our teams are are on the verge

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of um meeting each other in theplayoffs, the first round of the playoffs.
Yes, stakes, it's exciting,you know, it's exciting. The
postseason is upon us, and that'salways when we get the best of whatever
version of whatever sport that you're watchingis the playoffs. And nothing is more

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stressful than playoff baseball. Um,I've I've come to to realize over these
past few years, there's nothing reallyas stressful as that. But at the
same time, also nothing is rewardingas playoff baseball wins, even if you
don't end up winning the series,like the wins are just like they're so
you get so much relief because it'sso difficult, so Um, yeah,

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I'm looking forward to it. Um, this could be a there's potential,
there's a potential revenge factor here forfor my side of things, and then
for your side of things. There'sthe history making aspect of it. So
it should be There's some good storylines, some good narratives at play all around.
It should be fun. Yeah,definitely looking forward to it. I'm

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not super happy about the matchup,I have to say, given how things
played out in the regular season,Houston kind of dominated Chicago, but that's
okay. I do feel and Iwas looking at some like fan graphs,
you know, like odds and everythinglike that, I think whoever wins this

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is gonna go to the World Series. I kind of feel that it's a
safe bet. Yeah, I meanit's the the AL East is definitely got
a lot of talented teams there.But yeah, the Rays are legit good.
So yeah, that is that isas we found out last year and

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last year's Als. Yes, Um, yeah, they're legit good. So
you know, it's it's a shamethat we waited until Game four to start
playing, but you know, yeah, yeah, that's how it works sometimes
sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, Well, I mean another sport, which is

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kind of known for its playoffs,you know, something which is kind of
considered to be the most epic ofall playoffs. The coolest trophy, definitely
the coolest trophy. Yeah, andjust one trophy, not like you get
you get one every year to youknow, put on your shelf or whatever,
but just one trophy. That's theNHL, the National Hockey League,

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and hockey is starting up along withbasketball, but we'll focus on hockey this
week. They're starting up their seasonright now, so a long way to
go before we get to the NHLplayoffs, but but the start of the
season is upon us. Yeah,so we're taking a look at I don't

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know, I would say one ofthe better hockey movies, Miracle. Yeah,
there's there's there's a few good goodhockey movies out there, and entertaining
ones for sure, But you know, Miracle has the the cache of the
story that goes behind him. Consideringthat this is, you know, based

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off of a true story in anepic moment, and not only sports history,
but like you know, world history. Like the implications are there.
Yeah. So, uh, youknow, hockey and it's a sport which
is very popular over in Europe andup in Canada and all that stuff.
Um, I mean certainly popular here, but not of the scale of something

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like football or baseball or even basketball. I would say, yes, So
let me ask you are are youa hockey fan? I mean, as
they say in hockey, let's dothat hockey. No, of course I
had I had to get that outthere. But my hockey fan, yes,
but it's I'm like a mild hockeyfan normally. I just kind of

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I tune in when it's playoff timefor the most part. And if I
am a fan of certain players ora particular thing, then I'll kind of
like might then that kind of affectsmy rooting interest like for because you know,
like I'm you know, I'm anative Texan, but I lived in
LA for a little bit and soas a result, like I'm kind of

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partial to the hockey teams over there, in particular the Ducks. Who's I
went to the very first Ducks gamein history, like the very first first
Ducks home game. I was there, and then we had my dad got
season tickets to the Kings when Gretzkycame over, because that's what when we
were there. So so I'm partialto both of those. So like,

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when you know the Ducks won it, they won the Cup in OH seven,
I was like, this is thisis ridiculous, Like who would have
thought that this team would ever wenta Stanley Cup? And then when the
Kings won it, I was like, You've got to be kidding me.
They won two and like like afive year span. I was like,
this is this is outrageous, Likelike how is it that this team like

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one of Stanley Cup? Because Iremember they were garbage for forever and so
it was wild for me to seethem in a Stanley Cup. So so
yeah, normally tune in towards playofftime, but certain things have to be,
like the stars kind of have toalign for my interest to be really
peaked in it. But you thoughyou are you are you a Hawks fan?

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Um? Yeah, sure, youknow kind of um kind of kind
of the same deal. You know, It's something where I've never followed them
throughout the season or anything like that, but I do enjoy, you know,
the playoffs and everything, and certainlywhen they went on their Stanley Cup
runs in recent years, you know, I mean, yeah they got three
within like in the tens, right, Yeah, yeah, so you know

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that was. It was pretty Imean, obviously the whole town was just
kind of obsessed with hockey at thatpoint, and um, you know,
I mean that was that was alot of fun. It's weird because like
you watch the sport and in alot of ways, like like I feel
like I should be a bigger fanof it, right, like like it

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it's it seems more um, Idon't know, appealing to me than like
even basketball or football in a lotof ways. You know, it's fun
to watch, Yeah, it reallyis. Like when you end up watching
it, you're just like, whydon't I watch more of these games?
It's always kind of what I endup thinking, Yeah, yeah, And
you know, the idea of likeeighty two games season and everything like that

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seems kind of like the sweet spotand everything. I think. I just,
you know, there's only so muchthat you can you can consume,
you know, and and uh,it's it's hard for me to get into
that stuff to add more to it. But one thing which I am always
kind of excited about is the Olympicsbecause it really is like a showcase of

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like the best hockey players in theworld, and it's not even something like
basketball where It's like, Okay,America is gonna win every single year,
or at least they should, right, because I mean, basketball is such
an American sport, like nobody elsecan compete, but hockey is international.

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It really is, right, itis. But but they still have some
they still have like dominating teams rightLike at the at the moment, Canada's
won the past what two or threeWorld Cups and and and and um and
gold medals at the Olympics, solike they're they're the ones who are on
top right now. Kind of likehow in Miracle at the time of you
know the movie, right, theywere the ones who were at Russia was

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the one on top. So they'vehad dominating teams. But I get your
point, like it's, uh,it's way more international than some other things
are. It's much more of aneven playing field. And and it is
I mean the fact that they showdown the NHL for a couple of weeks,
you know, so that they canhave all the best players in the

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world play is is kind of cool, you know, although maybe not always
the right thing to do, asis evidenced in the movie Miracle. Yeah.
So so this movie, it cameout in the early two thousands.
I think it was two thousand andfour, and it was directed by Gavin
O'Connor, who has made like afew, you know, sports movies,

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you know, I mean, onenoteworthy one is a Warrior, the movie
about um mma, right, andthen just just this year he made or
last year he made The Way Back, which was the Ben Affleck movie.
Yeah, where he plays the collegeor the high school basketball coach. So

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he's kind of a sports sports director. Yeah, and not that that's all
that he's done, you know.I mean, he's made a lot of
other movies, but you know thathe's done three of them for three different
sports, and you could argue thatthose are his three best movies. Yeah,
I don't know, but yeah,So when did you first see Miracle?

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I saw it when it came out. Yeah, okay, me too.
I saw it. I screened itthe night before it came out,
and I haven't seen it since forsome reason. I mean, have you
seen it? Like in So Okay, that's interesting, you know, because
I mean I don't know what yourinitial thoughts were, but when I first

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saw it, I was like,that was really good. You know,
I'm excited to revisit it and seventeenyears later I finally revisited it. That's
basically what it was for me too. Yeah, and it's it's also one
of those things which I remember beingfascinated by it when I was watching it
the first time. In this timetoo, because you know, this whole

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thing took place in like February ofnineteen eighty the Olympics, but it's all
the lead up there, and likeI was born on January twenty ninth,
nineteen eighties, So more than anyother movie that I can think of,
this is like a time capsule ofwhat America was like, like the moment
that I was born. So that'skind of a that's neat an interesting little

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thing. But yeah, the suitswere interesting. I kept on there was
something at his plaid and thinking like, how do you get away with that?
That's that's weird. I mean,I guess that's just what people did.
Yeah, I think that was agood idea. It's still stuck in
that late seventies portion of things,right where like like the non disco,
non psychedelic aspect of the seventies,that's kind of what that was, and

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we hadn't fully transitioned to what theeighties would be yet because that they'd really
kick into like eighty three. Soit's kind of a kind of a weird
trend, you know, but whatever. So for those people who don't know,
this story is about the nineteen eightyUSA Olympic team, which was made

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up of a bunch of like collegekids essentially who were not quite good enough
to make the pros, but we'restill good. And they take on the
Soviet team, which was by farthe best team in the world at that
point in time. Yes, andsomehow they beat them, not in the

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gold medal game, as everybody thinks, but in the semi finals, which
led to the gold medal game,which they won. And you know,
of course this was at the heightof the Cold War. The games took
place in Lake Placid, New Yorkin America, so there was that added,
you know, element to it.And yeah, it's one of the

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great underdogs worries of all time.And the reason why it's called miracle is
because very famously Al Michaels was callingthe game and yep, he said,
do you believe in miracles? Andyes, it stuck. Yeah. So
yeah, so looking at the movie, now, what did you think about
it? I don't. I stillliked it. And as you mentioned,

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it's an interesting time capsule of thetime period. And there's a lot that
I kind of forgot about the movieas far as it's like the history is
concerned. I forgot about you know, Herb Brooks, right, the main
character of this look, the coach, his through line of it, like
he was there for he was partof the nineteen sixty Olympic team, but
then he was cut like right beforethey went to the games, and that

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team was the last American team upuntil that point that had won a gold
medal, and so he missed outand then there's all this time and so
like a lot of the story ishim basically trying to live, basically living
vicariously through his players to try andrealize his dream of winning Olympic gold.
UM. And so I thought thatwas that was an interesting take on it.

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UM. And then of course,like you know, the Cold War
aspect of everything, like you know, America versus Russia. Um, it's
not as sensationalized as Rocky four perse, because nothing can be messed sensationalized
as Rocky four as far as ColdWar paranoia and propaganda's concerned. But it
did give me some of those vibesthough, because you know, that's people

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really did feel like, you know, it was a US v. Russia
type of deal for for decades,right because of the Cold War, So
anytime you could get the best ofthe other was it was like serious business,
right, whether it be you know, you know, the space race
to hockey, you know, itwas it was treated as a big deal

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basketball. Famously in the seventies,you know, or late sixties, you
know, the Russians beat the USin the Olympics and the Americans didn't accept
their silver medal, right, solike this was so the US v.
Russia rivalry, uh in sports waswas pretty heated, and it was it
was taken very very seriously by bothsides. Yeah, it is such a
weird time period, and it's weirdhow how movies of the time sort of,

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um, I don't know, interpretedwhat was going on, but also
how movies of later time periods interpretwhat was going on, you know,
like like after it happened. Um, And I mean, I guess I
was kind of surprised at this forthe way it sort of like takes that

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that stance even though it's been youknow it happened like twenty five years or
whatever. You know, it justseems like kind of a I mean,
I guess that's just you know,just what it was what it is.
Yeah, Um, speaking of RockyFor as as many people know this,

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Sylvester Stallone apparently spent his pandemic reediting Rocky four into a cut. It's
like rock It's perfect as it is, man Like, see, this is
this is this is the trouble thatwe get it. This is all Zack
Snyder's fault. This is this isthe trouble that we get into because now
everybody's doing a redo and doing theirversion of cuts and all this other crap.

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It's like, come on, man. Anyway, Yeah, you know,
it really does feel more like alike a a Star Wars special edition
than it does like a motion StarStar Trek Motion Picture Special Edition, because
um, you know, it lookslike he's going back and redoing things,

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like making changes based on you know. The thing which everyone is really really
upset about is that he's is revealedthat um he is um removing Polly's robot
from the movie. People are reallyupset about this. Yeah, I am
Why would you? Why would youget rid of that robot. That robot.

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That robot is like is a stis a scene stealer in that movie?
I suppose that movie. Who arethe Who? Okay, who are
the first three? Rocky and ApolloCreed? Okay? All right, okay,
fair enough, fair enough. UmWell, this thing is actually coming

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to theaters for one night only onNovember eleventh, Veterans Day, So I
mean, I'm definitely going to gosee it. I don't know if you
plan to see it, but Ithink maybe you know, in a couple
of months, we're going to haveto do an episode on the Rocky four
director's cut, which is called Rockyfour Rocky versus Drago, So it's four

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minutes longer than the original, soI don't don't know what that means.
Hopefully it will still have the scoreby Vince Takola, hopefully composer behind Transformers
the movie, which you can totallytell. I mean it's not it's it's
literally like they were like, canwe get the guy who did the music
for Transformers the movie to do themusic for Rocky for And they're like,

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yes, we can, and thenthey did, and it's like wow,
like this really is the best scoreof all times, isn't it. Yeah.
Now, honestly, the only improvementthat I would think of is the
training montage instead of being Hearts onFire, it's the traditional Gonna Fly Now
because that was the first movie thatdidn't that's the only movie that doesn't have

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outside of the Creed movies that doesnot have Gonna Fly Now as the training
montage movie. I mean, Isee what you're saying. Yes, that's
the thing. But the thing iswe're going to make. If I were
to make a change, that wouldbe the change that I would make.
I wouldn't change. I wouldn't getrid of, you know, the robot
because the Happy Birthday poly scene isiconic. Yeah, well, it'll be

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interesting to see. I mean,obviously stuff is cut out if there's no
robot, but the movie is fourminutes longer than it was before. So
I don't know, we'll see,we'll see. I'm I'm excited, though,
I have to say I don't knowanyway, So back to Miracle Um,
you know, I mean, it'skind of interesting how there's really only

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I mean, there's a lot ofpeople in this movie where you're like,
oh, hey, it's that guy, Like oh, it's Scully's dad.
Oh, it's the guy with thegovernment conspiracy from Josie and the Pussycats.
But there's only one real star inthe movie, right, which is Kurt
Russell. Yes, I mean,I guess, you know, there's a
couple of other like, you know, well known actors, but he's the

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only like he's the only like Crewestar. And I think the only person
that kind of comes close to himwould be his wife, Patricia Clarkson,
right, Yeah, because she wasFrasier's girl friend in like season ten of
a Frasier for for a bit.Yeah, and she and she was you
know, in a lot of likeARTC movies at that point in time and

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everything too. Yeah. But that'sbut you're but you're right, that's that's
pretty much it. And a lotof those kids, I'm just like that,
like there were you know, whoare the you know, the kids
on the team. I was like, you y'all have been in stuff.
It's just too hard for me tolike track down exactly who who you are
and what you were in. Butthey're all that guys. Well, one
of the big problems is that,you know, with their hair and everything,

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they all look exactly alike. Yeah, you know, yeah, well
that's that's another interesting well not interesting, but that's another point to make about
the movie, is like there iszero diversity in this though, so it
makes it that much difficult right totell who's like to tell who's who,
because if they're all just a bunchof white dudes with long hair, it's
like, well it's it's it's hardto tell them apart. Yes, definitely,

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they all have they have the samebuild, same pace, right,
they didn't have anything asial hair,that didn't have any distinguishing marks or anything.
It's just like, well, there'sone guy who was I knew,
I knew who the goalie was becausehe had bigger pads and he was you
know, he had raven hair.And then the other dudes were like dirty
blonde, and then RUZIONI was theonly one that had like, you know,
a short cut, and it wasjust like, well that will these
are our characters. And then there'sone guy with the mustache and it's like,

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okay, I can tell who heis, you know, and then
he gets cut. Yes, yeshe does it because I mustache because he
wasn't conforming with everybody else. Thereyou go, yeah, it was like
the Yankees or something, right,Yeah, yeah, I mean, you
know, I guess it makes sensethe story that you're telling. I mean,
that's who was there, and youknow, hockey not exactly the most

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diverse sport in the world. Um, but it does make it hard to
tell who's who in this particular movie. But what did you think about Kurt
Russell in this It's an interesting rolefor him, uh, doing the whole
basically kind of doing his best BillBelichick in person impression. I Um,

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I'm not exactly sure if that's howher Brooks was, but if he was
good on him because he kind ofcaptured that that attitude of of a coach,
right, because there's you know,coaches are typically like you know,
as far as how they're depicted inmovies that kind of like kind of one
note in a lot of ways theyand a lot oftentimes they play that they
try to do it and try toplay coaches as being like the Belichickian version

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of a coach, right, likethis incredibly stoic, monotone, deep voice,
unflinching, unfeeling personality. And hekind of did that. But they
but they also, you know,they also softened it up with other scenes
of him like you know, youknow, you know, reflecting on certain

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things and being a little bit introspectiveabout his role, understanding that he's doing
this a certain way because he's goingfor this type of goal. Right.
Sometimes they just have the coach tobe you know, uh, you know,
an a hole, just to beahole, But like in this case,
it was it was not there wasmore of a there was a method
to his madness somewhat. Yeah.It is kind of like a fine line

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that they were walking a lot ofthe time because like this is a Disney
movie, right you know, soI mean I think it's PG if I'm
not mistaken. Yeah, And it'slike okay, you know, like what
can you what can you do inthose bounds? You know, what is
it that you're you're you want todo or what is it that you're trying

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to do? And I mean theydo push the boundaries quite a bit.
It is rated PGA, but um, you know, when you're trying to
tell a story about you know,like this, you know, really like
you know, rough you know,and tough coach you know, who's going
to push his players to the limit, It's like, okay, but he's

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not gonna swear at all or anything, you know, you know, I
mean the most unrealistic about the movieright there. I mean it's it's it's
an interesting, you know line thatyou have to walk. But I think
they did a pretty good job withit. Like, at no point did
I really feel like this is youknow, falling into like the magical Disney

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territory kind of thing. You know, it's not getting into like mighty Duck
slander. I mean, not thatit would go that far, but you
know, I mean at some pointyou got to say, like, well
we're doing this, but not forreal you know kind of thing, got
it? And I never really gotthat impression with this, you know it
did it did feel legit throughout.Yeah, And I think and I think

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what helped it was his like whenshowing him at practice, right and just
kind of being like as demanding ashe was, and like you could see
that like he didn't necessarily need tohelp say as much to get his players
to do what it what he meant, but they just all knew that he
was serious, right, he wouldjust be like you know, he blowed
the whistle and be like blue lineand then like everybody was like oh crap,

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Like I knew exactly what that right, So um so I think that's
I think that them doing it thatway made it effective and it didn't feel
like in a lot of ways,it was almost like they were saying,
like, Okay, we've got todo these things in order to get a
PG because it is a Disney movie, but we're not going to like dumb

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it down for kids. You know, in a lot of ways, it
is still like an adult movie thatyou can just take your kids too.
Yeah. Well, I mean,to be fair, a lot of a
lot of things aimed at children arethat way. People just don't look at
it that way. But that's athat's a discussion for a different day.
And and that's actually I think kindof what kids respond to the most in

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a lot of ways, right,yes, yeah, yeah, I mean,
trust me, like I'm I'm aroundkids every day, so they they
understand things more to a degree thatwe don't give them enough credit for.
In general, adults, they aresmart enough to pick up on a lot

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of things that we don't that wekind of take for granted. We take
their attenlgence for granted a lot.It's time too often, they can handle
more things than we give them.Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like
like, what was what was yourfavorite movie as a kid? My favorite
movie as a kid, I meanjust you know, oh, the first
the first Turtles movie. Okay,first Turtles movie, and for me it

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was it was it was Returning theJedi probably, yeah, right. And
it's like those those movies they're notlike like, I mean, is anyone's
favorite movie as a kid, likeMinions or something. I kind of think
probably depending on the age. Yeah, yes, I guess, but like

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like you had a Return of theJedi and I have this, like you
know, this like Frank Miller esqueversion of the Ninja. Turtles was my
favorite things? So yeah, yeahno, so um. The other thing
that I kind of like about thecasting of Kurt Russell in this. I
mean, put Kurt Russell in anything, and he's great, you know,

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I mean, yes, of courseyou should. You should always cast Kurt
Russell and you know underrated Yeah yeahhe is. And he's not even rated
low, you know exactly, That'sthat's the thing. Yeah, but he
should be taking home oscars every year, you know. Yes, yeah,
man, I keep saying Tombstone,it's a it's a crime. Tombstone does
not have Oscar wins Man, like, come on, yeah, yeah,

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Well you know John John Mills overon the Nerd Party Network, he's a
huge fan of Tombstone, so muchso that he actually sent me a DVD
of Tombstone to watch because I hadnever seen it. Yeah, and what
did you think? That it waspretty good? Yeah? It's that is
five stars right there. That isfive star cinema. Yea. Val Kilmer

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for sure, Like that is thecrime of the century right there, that
Val Kilmer did not get an Oscarfor Best Supporting Actor that matter. Nobody
was better than him. I willtake that to my grave. Okay,
fair enough, fair enough. Imean, I you know, Kurt Russell
and Escape from New York and Escapefrom la I mean, I think that's
his crowning achievement. But oh,for sure, Like you look at him

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in like death Proof or whatever,it's like he's amazing, you know,
he's always amazing. And the ideathat he got his start making these really
cheesy Disney live action movies, youknow, like the computer wore tennis shoes
and stuff like that, that washe was a Disney kid. He was
the zac Efron of the sixties orseventies or whatever, and you know the

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idea of him like, Okay,now I'm older and I'm going to make
another one of these cheesy Disney movies. But as an adult, you know,
I don't know. There's something aboutthat which is a poetic Yeah,
well it reminds me of a Cranstonbecause Cranston kind of did similar things because
like when he broke into the industry, he was doing monster voices for Power
Rangers Riley. Yeah, which isand that's the reason why he was zored

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on in the twenty seventeen version ofthe movie. He's like, look,
it's like this, I got mystart with this, Like, yes,
I will help you out. Iwill be zored on in this movie.
I had no idea that he wasin that. I've never I'm Power Rangers
is a complete blind spot for me. I'm like it came like right when
I was just too old for it, you know, like I just missed

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it. Turtles in the same way, but I had like a cousin who
was way into it, so Ikind of got it through osmosis. But
yeah, there you go, Turtles, I mean, Power Rangers completely over
my head. I have to sellgood. Well, well, Cranston was
there from the beginning. I mean, it's the reason. He's also the
reason why, like you know,the one of the characters is named after

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him, Billy the original Blue Rangers. Last name is Cranston. Oh yeah,
yeah, that's pretty cool. That'spretty cool. He's one of those
guys who obviously, now whenever Cranston'sin the movie, it's like, oh,
and then there's Cranston, you know. But like there's so many things
that you watch from like ten twentyyears ago where he just shows up and

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you're like, oh, that wasBrian Cranston, you know, like like
that X Files episode which is reallyreally good, the one, Well there's
that. But also don't forget likehow awesome he is and Malcolm in the
Middle. Yeah that's true. Imean people forget about that. Yeah,
he's hilarious in that. Yeah,everybody thinks of him as breaking Bad,

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myself included. But before like makingone of the most iconic dramas of all
time, he made one of themost iconic sitcoms of all time. Yeah,
it's rained, Ladies and Gentlemen.Yeah, monster voices, sitcom,
dominance, drama, dominance. He'sgot it all. He's got it all.

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Yeah, alright, any final thoughtson Miracle. Um, when you
watch okay, so the scene wherethey do where he keeps him after after
the game and they do those uhthose uh those sprints. Um, so
I remember, like I've I've seensomething like like a special feature for for

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this movie, you know, ononline sometime, and like they actually had
those kids do all of those sprints. Like I don't I lost count and
while while watching because like I waslike, I'm gonna count how many sprints
they do. But they actually hadthem do all of those like when they
were filming and they just kept keptthey just kept in doing it. They
were just like, look, thisactually happened. So to make it look

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like you guys are actually tired,we're gonna we're gonna run you to the
ground of this. We're gonna dothese these these sprints. And as somebody
who you know, when I wasplaying basketball, like way back in the
day competitively and stuff, like I'vedone a there's a version of those that
you do in basketball, and itsucks so like and to do it after

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a game, like I I can'timagine, but you know, and I'm
pretty sure like in real life allthose dudes, or at least as far
as like the movie is concerned,Like if we were to believe the part
in the movie that they highlight,you know, the who do you play
for that part? I'm not exactlysure how how true that is or if
it played out exactly like that thesprints thing did happen. But let's say

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we're in the movie, right,like we're in the movie this movie universe,
and like after they finished doing allthose sprints, I'm I bet you
every single person on that team waslike, Ruzione, thank you for saying
the right thing. Yep, yep, definitely definitely yeah, the who do

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you play for? A thing?I mean, that's it's an interesting thing.
I was watching this with my wifewho had never seen it before,
and she's like, why did ittake them so long to figure that out?
You know? But I mean,yeah, it's you know, it's
one of those things I guess,right, Oh, good movie, good
movie. I mean it's weird,like there aren't a lot of like serious

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hockey movies, right, you gotlike The Mighty Ducks and Slap Shot and
stuff like that, but there aren'tthat many. Like, no, the
only other one that I can thinkof is Mystery Alaska. Oh yeah,
yeah, which came out Yeah,I guess like five years prior to this.
Yeah yeah, I don't think I'veever seen it. I don't know.
That's another one I've seen once.Yeah, yeah, I know.

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Like they're obviously, it's hard toget a hockey movie made. I know,
for years and years and years,Kevin Smith was trying to do Hit
Somebody, which was based on theWarren Zevon song, and he had a
script and everything, and like peoplewere like, this is the best thing
he's ever written, blah blah blah, and yet no one would give him

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money for it. And at onepoint he even went to Jerry Bruckheimer because
Bruckheimer is a huge hockey fan,and he's like, well, this guy
is the biggest producer in Hollywood.You know, he does everything. They'll
give him an anything he wants.Yeah. If he just says that,
he's like, hey, Bruckheimer wantsto do this, they're like yeah,
yeah. So he gave Bruckheimer thescript to Hit Somebody, and Bruckheimer was

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like, I think this is yourbest work, you know, I think
it would make an amazing movie.But it's just not happening. There's like
some some hockey biopic that Bruckheimer hasbeen trying to get made for like the
past twenty years or something like that, and he's like, they won't they
won't give you money to make ahockey movie. I've been trying for like

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twenty years. It just won't happen. Yeah, So I guess that's why
we don't see that many hockey moviescompared to basketball or football or whatever.
Well, I mean interesting, well, I mean outside of Miracle Alaska,
I think there is one other serioushockey thing that it's out there, and

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it's you know, this also tiesinto it ties into this movie. It
also kind of ties into our ourRocky discussion that we had early as well.
So it's it is ESPN did athirty for thirty on what happened to
this Russian team after they lost?Interesting, and then of course you know
that ties into Rocky because like youlook, you watch Creed two and you

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find out what happens to Drago afterhe loses. So it's all connected.
That's that's interesting. I'll have tocheck that out for sure. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, all right,Well, next week we're going to move
on to basketball season, because hey, I mean those two I mean they

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start at the same time. It'sweird how much basketball and hockey are kind
of tied together, even though theydon't really have anything to do with each
other. But correctly a lot ofyou know, the teams play in the
same stadiums, their schedules overlap,they play the same number of games,
have the same playoff structure. It'sreally weird how similar those two sports are

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structured, even though the games themselvesare are very different. Yes, but
we're gonna take a look at abasketball movie next week, Spike Lee's he
Got Game. That's right. Yeah, So until then, Lance, Where
can people find you on the Internet. They can find me at Sir Lance
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way, way, way way behindon our commentaries for Star Trek Lower Decks.

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But we will get up there.You know, it's like we've been
busy. We've been watching, youknow, the White Sox and stuff like
that. I'm sure that Max hasbeen watching the White Sox NonStop. That
sounds exactly like something that he woulddo. So, you know, we've
been busy, but we'll get toit eventually. After the postseason. No,
I don't know one. Who knowsone. Maybe it'll be before,
maybe he'll be after who knows.Yeah, yeah, but anyway, thanks

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for listening, and until next time. I always believe in miracles. Join
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