TM - Episode 07: He Got Game

A lot has happened since last we spoke. The Houston Astros (Lance's team) defeated the Chicago White Sox (Mike's team) in the first round of the playoffs. Then the Astros lost in the World Series. And now, it's Basketball Season. Lance and Mike finally return with a look at Spike Lee’s basketball epic He Got Game.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the Nerd Polite. Welcometo Training Montage, the podcast on the
Nerd Party that talks about sports movies. I'm Lance and I'm Mike. How's

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it going, man? Oh youknow, um, I'm I'm just recovering.
Recovering, Yeah, yeah, fromsome rather unfortunate sporting events, you
know, send me into a fairlydeep depression, which is why we haven't
recorded. I know you've been busy. I've been busy watching sporting events.

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Yeah, I've been. I've beena little preoccupied by the fact that,
uh, you know, I gota special team doing some special things.
Yeah. Only the special ones getto go to the World Series, my
friend, and that's where my teamis currently on the way too as of
this recording. Yeah, pretty excitingtimes. Yeah. Congratulations to appreciating Astros.

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Yeah wait wait, hold on,hold on, what did you just
say. I don't think I caughtthat last thing that you said. I
said something like, congratulations to theHouston Astros. Ah, there it is,
there, it is. We appreciateit, appreciate it was sarcastic though,
Yeah, yeah, I saw themall on the field, like taking

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their picture and everything, because Iwas at that game when they won the
first round. And yeah, yeahit was pretty bad Chicago. I mean
it was pretty good. Actually quitecaught the opposite of bad. But whatever,
whatever, you know. Um,yeah, that was like a whole
like round ago. We just gotfinished beating them Red sox um so we'd

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beat both the socks. Yeah.Yeah, that's that's pretty that's pretty neat.
And now onto Atlanta. Who Iimagine? Yeah, I don't know.
Um, I can't say I'm superexcited about this World series, you
know, I mean, none ofthese teams are really too interesting to me.

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But you know, it's okay.I know that you have probably different
feelings about it. Yeah, quitedifferent. It's okay though, Yeah,
it's okay. We could we couldagree to disagree. Yeah, yeah,
anyway, it's all good. Yeah. Yeah, let's talk about a different
sport. Okay, cool, Yeah, what sport? What we talk about
today? Let's talk about basketball.It's the start of the basketball season.

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Yeah. I haven't watched any gamesyet. I'm sure that you have.
I have. Your bulls look prettygood so far? Yeah, do they
win last night? You can't so? So they're three and oh I think
so Yeah, Yeah that's not toobad. Yeah, the Houston Rockets.
Are they We are one and one? Okay, well that's better than like

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last year, right, yeah itis, and you know what, we're
rebuilding, so it's okay. AndI see right now they're up by two
as we speak. So everything,everything's everything's coming up, coming up Chetown
at the moment, I like this. I like this. Okay, all
right? The Tuans don't count becausethey suck and I'm not a Texans fan
anyway. Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, with the start of

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basketball season, we decided to watcha basketball movie, Spike Lea's He Got
Game. Yeah, when when didyou first see this movie? I saw
this when it came out. Isaw this in theaters. I remember that
specifically, mostly because A, well, two reasons. A, it's it's

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Spike, and I've seen all ofthis stuff, and you know, we
were we proudly supported Spike doing this, doing this thing, um, as
as most black fan at least did. I'm pretty sure. Um. And
then the other reason was like RayAllen was in it and he's is the
star of this movie alongside of Denzelwhich is which is kind of crazy.

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Like when you watch this movie,Ray, I don't think does a bad
job. Like as far as athleteswho were who have been in movies and
like acted like rays a clear clearabove a lot of these other higher,
higher profile ones who have been inmovies, Like you think about Shack and
his movies, and you think aboutMJ in Space Jam, you think about

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Lebron and the New Space Jam.Like Lebron and the train Wreck was pretty
good. He was funny in that, but his voice was weird. Okay,
yeah, but it's just like Rayis, like, it's such a
superior actor by comparison. It's it'sit's crazy and he's not doing like a
fun role. He's not doing akids movie like He's this is a serious

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role here. And I think thatthat was so unique that he was able
to do both. And this wasyou know, young Ray Allen and he
was like, you know, morethan just the three point shooter he eventually
became and became known for. Thiswas back when Ray Allen was like,
oh I'm I'm that next generation oftwo guard that's coming into the league in
the late nineties. Um, andhe you know, was dunking on people

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and doing all the things that hewas doing in this movie. Wasn't just
spotting up for three like he didlater in his career. So it was
very interesting that he got the callfor this and did as well as he
did, I mean, acting alongsidelike, you know, some big names
Denzel Rosario, Dawson, Um,you know, our boy John comes back
in this with a small part ofSo you know, it's it. This

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is a This is definitely a delightto revisit. Yeah. So where was
I mean, was he in theNBA at this point? Yeah? He
was like what first or second year? Okay, because this was what ninety
seven I think? Okay, Yeah, so he'd been in the league for
two years at this point. Hewas part of that. He's part of

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that famous ninety six draft class,okay with and did Kobe and all and
a whole bunch of hosts of others. And did he go um straight to
the NBA or did he skip didhe skip college or did he go No,
he went to college. He wentto Yukon. Okay. I was
just trying to figure out, likein terms of like the age, you

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know, like how how old hewas or what? Yeah, you know,
because I mean he's playing a highschool kid in this thing. Yeah,
well that's oh yeah, I meanhe was at the time. He
was probably what maybe twenty four orso when when they made the movie.
And it's not unlike it's not uncommonto have you know, older people playing
high school kids. I mean,hell, Tom Welling was twenty five and

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he was playing sophomore Clark Kent inSeason one of Small Though. Yeah,
that didn't tremendously work too well.But um yeah, I mean I think
I think he was okay. Ididn't think he was super great, but
I also think the way that itwas directed was such that like they you

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know, they shot it to hisabilities, you know, like they structured
things, you know, according towhat he could do and what he couldn't
do, and you know, Ithink the end result, you know,
works pretty well. Yeah. Um, and you know, surrounding him with
you know, a bunch of toptier talent like you know, Denzel and

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everything like that, that that was, you know good. I was curious,
you know, and I mean Idon't know how much of it was
choreographed or whatever, but you know, like when they're actually playing basketball,
right, I mean I'm assuming thatRay Allen could handily beat Denzel in one
on one, but I mean Denzelseemed to you know, he made some

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shots, he was a little bithe was pretty good, right, So,
um, yeah, for me,I didn't see it when it first
came out. I you know,I just kind of missed it the first
time around. But then when Iwas in college, I took a class
on Spike Lee where we covered hisentire filmography and you know, we watched

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every single one of his movies inthat class. So I watched it there
for the first time. And yeah, and at the time I wasn't tremendously
impressed by it. I thought thatI don't know, I guess I thought
it was maybe a little you know, cliche and stuff like that. But

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seeing it again this time, thisis the first time that I had seen
it and probably like you know,eighteen years or something like that, and
um, I liked it a lotmore this time. There's there's like almost
I mean, Spike does this thingwhere it's like a I don't know,

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it's it's he does it. Helike he uses these these elements in sort
of like this perfect harmony to createthis almost like poetic like nature to his
stuff. You know, Like Ilove the fact that like his music is
always it's not like beat by beat, like commenting on what's on screen.

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It's almost like it's just background musicin a sense, right, in a
lot of ways, Yes, especiallyone. Yeah, there's like a dramatic
um tension to the music, whichlot lots of times just kind of like
in opposition with what's playing out onscreen. Yes, and it's it's not

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so much like a score as itis like just like a background track.
Yeah. Well see, I'm gladyou brought up the music because and especially
in this case to talk about likehow it's not necessarily a score. It's
most like a background track. Well, a lot of that orchestral stuff was
a background track because it's not becauseit was not a film score all that.
A lot of that music that wasin the background was Aaron Copeland works,

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various Aaron Copeland works. Like so, like you like the first scene
where you see them like Jesus andhis team playing pick up basketball, they're
using uh music from from Rodeo,right, like you know, like the
the famous like from the Where's theBeef commercial? Uh, They're they're playing
that and then they're playing the hodownthey're doing the uh the John Henry is

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played at the towards the end duringthe final back basketball game between one on
one game between Denzel and and andRay Allen, and you have a whole
bunch of other uh, you haveAppellation Spring at one point. And so
you have these interesting you know AaronCopeland, you know, late Romantic Americana

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that he that he has used inthis movie about basketball in the hood.
And I think that's an interesting juxtaposition. And I think that's an interesting take
and thought on what all of thisstuff means. H because and and and
it's it's it's beautifully well woven intoeverything that we see. Yeah, it's

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kind of interesting that he didn't gowith Terrence Blanchard for this, because that's
it, that's this guy. Yeah, yeah, I mean pretty much every
but even when he does use Blanchard, he uses him in kind of the
same way that that he uses Copelandhere, which I think works really well.
I agree. Um. Now,okay, so let me ask you

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this because I don't know what,like i'd noticed that it said like songs
by Public Enemy, Like were theseoriginal songs? No, they just like
those were also just in the background. Okay, all right, I was
I wasn't sure whether or not theywere, you know, written specifically for
this movie or not so okay interesting. And then also just the photography and

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everything the way that you know,I mean they've got he does those like
almost like portrait type of things,almost like moving portraits where it's like I'm
going to take a picture of someoneand it's going to be like perfectly composed
and everything, but it's not astill you know. I mean that it
just that works so well. Andum, it's like those live photos.

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M Yeah. And also, uh, you know, just I mean that
opening sequence, you know, withyou know, everyone's shooting basketballs. You
know, I mean that it justit just works so well. And I
mean he does that in his othermovies. You know, he does it
in like a twenty fifth hour andstuff like that. Um. But yeah,
it's it's so bizarre but put veryeffective. I think that's that's the

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That's a good way to describe alot of spikes work in a lot of
ways. Um. And that alsocould be you know, one of the
reasons why we don't, I don'tthink talk about him as with the same
acclaim that we do some other directors, because he you know, to to
to quote the movie title, hegot game right. He has a game
just like the others do, buthe doesn't seem to get the love that
they do a lot of times whenpeople wax poetically about you know, directors

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and their vision and you know who'swho, uh, you know who's you
know, film it touch they likedbetter, and all these other types of
things. He's he's one of theones that kind of gets lost in the
shuffle. And he's given us alot of great work that I don't think
should be ignored or taken for granted. Yeah, I mean, his filmography

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is pretty pretty solid, you know, all the way around. Um,
you know, and I think thatin like recent years he's been doing like
some of the best work of hiscareer, I agree, stuff like Black
Clansman and everything like that. Um. And one of the things which I

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mean, I mean, I thoughtit was really kind of a standout in
this was the photography which was byMalik said who. Um. I think
Spike Lee kind of like discovered himshortly before this. His first work was
Clockers and this guy I don't know, I mean, like so he did

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he did like Clockers Girl six,and then he got Game and then like
later on he would do like uh, um well original Kings of Common.
I don't know if that counts.And um I thought he did them get
on the bus, but maybe hedidn't. But it's it's a very like

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distinctive style, you know. It'slike, um, it's got that sort
of like high light you know,photography thing going on a lot of like
um uh like coda chrome like filmstock, which is like a positive instead
of a negative. So the colorsare like super saturated and stuff like that.

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Like I mean, it's it's avery very distinct look. He shot
that movie Belly, Um that HypeWilliams directed. Um, I don't know
if you've seen that, but Iremember I remember seeing it, like like
the poster for it. Yeah whatis this? Yeah it's it's not tremendously

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good, but the photography is amazing, like absolutely amazing, just like super
saturated colors and all that stuff.So you know, and I was,
I was like, I haven't seenhim do anything in recent years, like
where has he been? And Isee here he shot um black is King

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for you know, beyonest, Sothat that makes sense. Um, he's
still doing like music video stuff andeverything like that kind of coming from that
world. Okay, So yeah,um, I don't know, it works
really well here and and I don'tknow, I seem to recall them saying
that there was like a new transferdone in recent years or something like that,

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but like I watched it on HBOMax and the the transfer was like
astoundingly good, like really, yeah, it's it's worth watching just for that.
The quality of the picture is isamazing good. Now Yeah, so,

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um, did you have any newopinions about this now compared to like
when you first saw it, becausewhat were you like eleven when you first
saw Yeah, I think the thecommentary on on like young Basketball, like

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right before we like like high schoolkid like you know, making the decision
about what they're gonna do. It'san interesting point in this movie because there's
people like wanting, you know,Jesus to go pro or go to college,
and it's the same question we're kindof having now with certain recruits,
but the stakes are so much higherand it's and it's also, um,

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it's more or acceptable now for kidsto just go to go to straight to
the pros and skip high school.Back then, it was like somewhat controversial
and it was a really big deal. Like you had to be you know,
as good as advertised to make thejump because at that point, only
a few people had done it,and with most recently being Kevin Garnett being
you know, probably the most successfulat it at that time. Because this

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is pre Lebron. This is we'reyou know, we're still at this point.
When the movie came out, wewere five years away from Lebron showing
up. So so the question ofwhether a high school kid can go you
know, to college of the proswas completely different. And also the same
thing with like like the whole recruitingpitch that you see from all the college
coaches that make cameos in this,I'm pretty sure a lot of that was

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some of that was not you know, filmed for the movie. I think
some of that was just taken straightfrom their recruiting videos that they send to
actual legit recruits, and they youknow, like the college recruiting game is
so different at this point because youknow, Jesus shuttle Worth back in nineteen
ninety eight or you know, whenthis came out, like that character would

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have gone to college for at leasttwo years, maybe three, right before
going to before even trying to goto the NBA. Now, if this
movie came out today, like itwouldn't have even been a question whether he
was going pro or not. Andtwo, if he would have went to
college, he would have only beenthere for one year. Yeah, he
probably would have gone to Tech.You had fun and and then and then

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went straight to the NBA after that. And that's kind of like the situation
of where basketball is in young basketballis completely changed, and it's like you
watch this movie now in twenty twentyone, you're just like, well,
you'd have to make a completely differentmovie. You couldn't make this movie today
because of the way that the gamehas changed in that regard. Yeah,

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that makes sense. It's such aI mean, you know you look at
like the sort of like pressure thathe's under throughout this whole movie, and
the idea of like all these peoplewho are like trying to influence him and
all the people around him, andthe fact that he's like I can't do
any of this, like if Italk to the wrong person, like I

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can get in trouble and stuff likethat. Yeah, it's all such a
big scam when you think about howlike all these people around him, like
the agent you know, for example, who's got you know, like the
basketball court in his house, Likethey're all making money off of these like
college kids. Who are you know, the ones who are actually doing the

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work that's correct? Yeah, wellthat's this whole system is inherently flawed and
it's messed up. And it's evenmore messed up now because we have the
scope to see how messed up itis. Is the thing, like you
know, you think about like thecoaches and their a and their revenue streams
that they're quite large, right andlike you know, the coaches are making
you know, x amount of moneyyou have, you know, the agents

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you have is you have the AEcoaches, the people who are you know,
pushing all these different things, andyou have these kids who are putting
these impossible situations and they have allthese other things to think about. Um,
and you have like a character likeJesus struggle Worth, like he's not
the first person that this is goingto happen to or or the last.
Um. A lot of his storyis very much similar to somebody who was

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in the same draft class as RayAllen uh and actually was traded for Ray
Allen on draft night, and thatStefan Marbury. Uh so who comes from
Coney Island and which is interesting,like and it was like, well,
well, why didn't they get StefanBarbury to be in this movie? Um?
Yeah. But but like a lotof this the story is is very
much similar to to to his.And I mean not with the you know,

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the dad in prison and all thatother stuff, but just like a
kid from Coney Island trying to makeit to the to the league. That's
that's his story, right. AndStefan Marbury was probably the first like high
school player like I like followed becauselike I, you know, I subscribe
to Slam magazine back in the day, um, and I still pick up
some of their their anniversary issues andstuff, and like they would have talk

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about these like high school kids likeyou know, where they're going to school
and who's the next this and thatwhatever. And the one that I you
know, kind of gravitated towards whenI was younger was Stefan Marberry. Um,
and I realized that, you know, he's from Coney Island and this
movie came out, It's like ohConey Island, and I was like,
I know exactly what that is.This story is very very similar Uh,
interesting that they went with Ray Allenover Stefan Mayerberry, who the story is

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kind of loosely uh inspired by ina sense. Uh. It's just kind
of an interesting, interesting way howthat how that all went down. And
he's not even in the movie either. They had other NBA people like in
here, like on his team.Uh, like Travis Best was the point
guard he was on the Indiana Pacersat the time. You had John Wallace

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who was a New York nick atthe time he went to Syracuse. Uh,
and then Walter mccordy. So theylike so not like you know,
household names. You have to belike a real basket basketball head or a
big you know, actual sports headto know some of those names. Uh.
But they so they did a goodjob casting in that regard. But
they do mention him a couple oftimes they do in the movie. They

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do, and and they also mentionedlike some of the other New York guys
that came out, like you know, Kenny Anderson gets gets shout out,
um and as Sebashian selfare know becauseSebashian Hilfa's later. Um. But a
couple others who are from that samearea and the same type of same type
of deal. Yeah, I meanit seems like in a lot of ways,

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even though it's on like a differentscale because it's you know, like
pro versus you know, college andstuff like that, but it does have
a lot of similarities to like HighFlying Bird. Did did you see that
movie? Okay, yeah, yougotta watch it. You'll, I mean
you'll you'll love it. It's it'sgreat, you know, Um, it's
uh, it's stars. Ah god, what was the dude's name? Sorry?

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Andre Holland as um a sports agentand the end, the NBA is
about to have like a lockout,you know or whatever, and basically like
he's trying to like you know,protect his client and everything like that,
and you know, they essentially decideto, like the players decide to like

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take things into their own hands anddo like one on one tournaments and turn
it more into like you know,individual you know, like almost like a
boxing match kind of thing. Youknow, you have like promoters and stuff,
and it's like, you know,the players are the ones with the
power, not the owners, notthe you know. It's it's yeah,

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yeah, I guess so, um, but yeah, no, it's really
good. Um, And I thinkthey're they're actually talking about making a sequel.
But this is the woman Zazzy beatsright. Yeah. Yes, she's
yeah, so so good, sogood, and yeah, we should definitely
talk about it. It's yeah,um so uh. The other um thing

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that kind of stood out to mewas the ending to this movie. This
movie came out first, but theending to this movie is shockingly similar to
the end of Love and Basketball.Yes it is. I mean some of
some one was ripping off someone elsekind of maybe it was subluminal, but

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you know, I mean I can'twait for us to talk about his love
of basketball. Yeah. I justsaw that for the first time a few
months back. Yeah, they wereshowing it. Um I think I think
it was for like a like aJuneteenth like programming or whatever. And my
wife is like, we gotta gosee this. So yeah we went and

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it was really good. Yeah.I liked it. Yeah, yeah,
I like that one. That's that'sthat's that's a favorite. Yeah. But
boy, yeah, similar ending.I mean, different kind of results,
but even not really that different.Yeah. Yeah. So the the other
thing, which even though I hadonly seen this movie once prior to this,

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the one moment that like always stoodout to me was the idea that
like, as soon as Denzel's charactergets out of prison, like basically the
first thing that he does is goand buy a new fair of Jordan's,
right, And he's even like likeyou can tell like he never even really

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saw them or anything. He's justlike, I need the new pair of
Jordans. And I kind of feellike that has like influenced my buying habits
of Jordan's over the past whatever yearslike this, you know, I mean,
I know that that when it comesto Jordan's these days, retros are

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the thing, right, That's whereall the money is made. You know.
Everybody wants to shooes that Denzel hasin this movie for example. Yeah.
Yeah, But for me, it'salways like, you know, the
ones, No, I mean Ilike the older ones, right, and
and you know, like the olderones, I definitely have my fair share
and all that stuff, you know, like the fours, the fives,

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all that stuff, But like Ialways gravitate towards the new ones because I'm
like, I want I want thebest, right, you know, and
that want with the new tech andeverything, and the ones that he would
be wearing if he was playing today, you know, that's just me.

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That's hey, that's that's fair.That's fair. That that is a good
point. Literally, the first thinghe does is that it's not go get
food like real food. He goesto get a pair of Jordan's. Yeah,
yeah, which is reasonable. Yeah, but I kept on thinking too,
like, so he's going to beout for a week, and then
after that they're going to take awayas Jordan, Like, is he going

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to get him back when he getsout of prison? I mean I guess
At the same time, why wouldhe care? You know, I swear
Jordan's for a week, then whynot? Right, it's better than what
he was wearing down down in thepenitentiary. Yeah, that's for sure.
Well, and any final thoughts onhe got game? Um yeah, oh
Meila Jobovic, did you get thatshe was in this? Yeah? I

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did. Yeah, But she's good. I mean, it's gonna it's just
it just it just took you asurprise. Like you know, when I
saw it the first time, Ididn't necessarily think anything of it because this
is this is pre you know,resident evil. Um and and I don't
think I made the connection about thethe the fifth Elements at the time,

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But seeing it now it's like,holy crap. Yeah, yeah, no,
she's good. Um. It's interestinglike whenever you see someone like that,
you know, who's known for likeResident Evil and stuff like that,
and you see them in a movielike this, where it's like okay,
yeah, like she is a goodactor. Yeah, and when she's teamed

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with someone like Spike Lee like she'sgonna give a really good performance. It's
just that normally she doesn't get thoseopportunities because she's stuck in you know,
Monster hunter Land or whatever it is. Yeah, you know, yeah,
but no, she got to act. You know, you got to have
Spike director in here, you gotto act across from from Denzel, you
know, the goat. So shehad to step her game up. Yeah.

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Yeah, but yeah she was good. She was good. And Rosario
Dawson is is really good in this. She's she's great in this. She
normally is great in this thing.Um. I love that Rick Fox is
in this, Um basically playing youknow, pretty much every single character he
plays when like as an actor,since he's transitioned from from poor Basketball,
he's always some sleazy brother man,I'm telling you is Lric. Fox is
always that character. He's so goodat it. Yeah, And and um,

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I mean lots of like weird peoplewho you know, have like iconic
roles in other Spike Lee movies turnedup in this right like John Turto I
mean basically the entire cast of Dothe Right Thing is in this movie.
Yeah, exactly, John Turturro,Yeah, uh yeah, the Roger,
the pimp that takes them on theon the on the on the on the

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takes him to school that one time. M hmm. Yeah, it's it's
crazy, you know, yea,but but in like completely different roles from
what they were in in that movie, you know, yeah, yeah,
but yeah, it's good. It'sgood. I always like that. And
and Hill Harper, right, yeah, who was in um Get on the

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Bus, which I think Get onthe Bus? Was that before this or
was it after it? I can'tremember? You there? Yeah yeah,
but he's he's made it. He'shad a himself, a good career.
Ned Baty's in this Neatis the one. Yeah, you know, it's like
good for Ned bait Um. He'slike, you know, there's just so
many good ones, you know,Jim Brown of course, yeah, Jennifer

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Espositos in this Sleet who you know, I mean Jim Brown, an athlete
who you know, definitely made thatleap and is you know, very good
actor. Yeah. I love himin any given Sunday as well. He's
fantastic in that. Yeah. Yeah. Good cast, good cast. Yeah,
and I guess overall, one finalthought on the casting. I love

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that they got you know, Imentioned, you know, Denzel, he
doesn't mentioned that looking at the goat. Well, they got the goat to
have a line in this movie.Like MJ says said in the in the
movie, he's like he got yep, I love it. Yep. Everyone
else is like, you know,waxing, poetic and everything like that,
talking about Then they just cut toMJ. And he's like, he got

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game. Yeah, it's perfect,amazing. Yeah. Yeah, they did
a good job with that. Allright, Well, I guess that's pretty
much it. Yeah, I thinkso. Yeah. So certainly glad that
I rewatched it, because you know, it's one of those movies since it
didn't really grab me when I firstsaw it, I wasn't in you know,

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any hurry to revisit it. Butyou know, I mean just from
that opening credit sequence, I waslike, man, I definitely missed Joe
this movie. Yeah, man,yeah, man, Yeah, that's it
has some raging boulevards with that openingsequence and to a certain a smaller degree,
but it's kind of the same idea, right, and so yeah that
really grabs you. Yeah, andjust the idea of like all these people

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from you know, like all walksof life and different like skill levels and
everything like that, and just liketheir shared love of basketball, you know
what I mean that it's it's cool, it's it's a good job with that.
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Welluntil next time, Lance, Where

(31:40):
can people find you on the internet. Ah, you can find me at
Sir Lance Laster on all of mysocial media's. You can also find me
on the United Federation of Podcasts talkingabout all the things that make Arrow Arrow
at Always Hold on the Arrow.And you can find us on Twitter at
Do Not Fail Our pod. Andfor this week you can catch me at
the World Series. But you canfind me on Twitter and letterbox at Mumbles

(32:06):
three k. And you can alsofind me on my website film damagepod dot
com doing a show called film Damagewhere we will get to our star trek
commentaries. I promise we haven't doneanything because you know this this uh past
few months with the baseball has beenexhausting, but you know, it's time.
It's time. Lower dex is over. It's time to talk about that.

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There's a hell of a lot totalk about. There's whales, there's
you know, I mean, there'sthere's censored parts. Yeah, there,
there's there's there's lots of stuff,you know, so, um yeah,
we'll definitely get around to that.Um and then Prodigy is coming up all
this week, so yeah, youknow, yeah, so so yes,

(32:52):
head on over to film damagepod dotcom and check that out. You can
also find me on Twitter and letterboxedat mumbles three K. All right,
well that pretty much does it,So until next time, go Astros Join

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the Revolution, Join the nerd Party.