Mientras la Eurocopa entra en etapa de definiciones y la selección de Colombia juega su segundo partido en la Copa América contra Costa Rica, en Francia empieza el Tour, la carrera más importante del ciclismo mundial. Se espera una batalla tremenda entre Tadej Pogacar y Jonas Vingegaard. Por Colombia estarán Egan Bernal, Santiago Buitrago, Fernando Gaviria y Harold Tejada. Analizamos la segunda gran vuelta del año junto a Jhon Jaime "JJ" Osorio.
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Friends, friends welcome to a sportsforum, a spectator space immersed in the
full definition of the Eurocup. Alsoafter Colombia' s triumphant debut in the
Copa América against Paraguay, in amatch that ended two one and also,
with the figure of the almost eightyalready passed by Colombia' s Olympic quotas
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in Paris two thousand twenty- four. On the horizon of the Colombian sport,
begins the Tour de France, whichwill go from this Saturday until the
next twenty- first of July.It is the great sporting event that begins
in these coming weeks and that hasa great poster with the names of the
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best cyclists of the moment, withfour Colombians also that will start in race
and that is the event that wewere also waiting for to start to solve
the doubts, the our cognitas ofwhat this tour of France will provide.
Today we invite Huguito Caro Played SantiagoCaro, journalist of the spectator and in
addition, man in charge of apodcast wheel, the Podcast of the viewer
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who follows in the footsteps of thegreat turns of cycling. We' re
starting with the Giro de Italia.The Tour de France is coming. Huguito,
welcome, you already accumulate several titlesin this sporting forum. Thank you,
Fernando, a great greeting for allthose who so far connect here in
a sports forum, in another spaceof the spectator, to talk about sports,
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to analyze what is happening with theColombian athletes and, of course,
to go to the wheel of ourcyclists who are already ready to leave from
Florence, Italy. First time inhistory that the Tour de France is going
out from outside, from Italy,because from outside already out. In fact,
that country number thirteen that welcomes thedeparture of the tour, but this
time it will be special because itdoes so from the country that comes from
finishing the Giro de Italia. Moreover, this year that the race arrives in
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Nice, because it does not arrivein Paris, there are no elliptical fields,
as it is tradition for the organizationof the Olympic Games in Paris two
thousand twenty- four, which willbegin a few days after the end of
the Tour de France, on 26July I flee. I had to ask
you the last time you were here. We were talking about the Colombian football
finals from one to ten. Thelevel of soccer tusa. How was it?
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It was like an eight. Itwas strong, yes, of course
incredible. I was thinking that oneof the amazing things is that, in
the middle of the sporty Boragina,the hurricane of emotions that we have that
ending has not been two weeks,but it seems like it was a month
ago and in that coincidence we arealso in the definition of the Euro Cup,
which seems to have started a lotof time ago. Also well,
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whenever it was little, we closedour eyes, opened it and we'
re already in the final eighths.Of course we' ll talk about all
these things today, but we wantto start with the Tour de France.
Hugo. We' re going tobe on the wheel of this race,
we' re going to be keepingan eye on what' s going to
be a race that has four bigfavorites, I would say in the four
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- three networks, you reduce themto three. What are your favorites.
Or there was, because I thinkthat doesn' t come out of Typo
Gachard. I don' t thinkhe' s leaving Jonas Binggetgar. That
it' s a little unknown toknow how it comes, because it fell
very little ago, fell with Remcovenepoland well, if you want to put
a room in it, let's talk about cousin roblic but cousins,
because it is also an even biggerhonic, because it comes with a team
almost that new. Now Red BullBora is launching sponsorship. There' s
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four of them. He accepted thefour on that side, but yes,
I think it' s interesting tosee how it' s going to be
for again, after quite a longtime, which is having four competitors on
an almost similar level, because ifthere are three runners who can, at
least dispute him from Tuba. Hehad in several stages Tak Pogachard. They
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' re the three in this race. We had already seen toa Bin Gegar.
You are watching him on screen competingagainst Pogachar, but this time Rowlie,
who is no longer the same LisaBike, but is the Red Bullbora,
joins as a new competitor and alsohas a poster and a team that
can be quite interesting to support himin that fight during the three weeks.
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Then there are three, almost fourfavorites who have something to contend with,
and that gives the tour a competitivenessthat it suddenly does a long time ago.
We didn' t drink. Idon' t personally think it'
s a two- person race anymore. No, I think we can be
excited and hope that there will bemore competition and more firewood and that it
will not be as soon as theGiro of Italy was, which, when
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it had to compete, was rathera prologue of Taipo Gachar that, if
it does not fail me now memory. It was six stages that were reached
in that Italian round, dominating therace from beginning to end Ugitter. Let
' s also explain the concept ofthe wheel we' re going to see.
The guests already covered what was theGiro de Italia in his charge adding
his leadership, which Gregarios we willhave also in this let' s say,
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not second season, but in thiscontinuation of what is going to be
the Tour de France. Of course, a wheel is a product that was
born a little similar to a sportscourt during the Qatar World Cup two thousand
twenty- two. It seems asif it was far away I was commanding
you and I was here, asI am today, wheeling you around and
serving Gregario, taking your little kit. But we got him to mutate to
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a podcast in which, during thetwenty- one days of competition, we
were with a luxury campus, witha large staff, following him the track,
being wheeled from that platoon. Ofcourse, of the Colombian cyclists we
were excited with Airo Quintana, wewere there with Juan Sebastián Molano and Fernando
Gaviria and here in the spectator,we were analyzing day by day what was
that race that, well, wasbasically the consecration of pogachar in Italy,
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but that also gave us many entertainingdays and for this tour of France is
renewed, of course, with thesame plant. We will be in an
alliance with steel horse, this groupof cycling fans that had been in the
field of cycling analysis and journalism forseveral years. We will be with Lina
Bonilla, who is one of thepeople who knows most about cycling in Colombia
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today, who is driving a lotto the freelancer, who will also be
commenting on the race and Spain fora radio station. We will be with
a statistician Jorge Villaseca of historical classifications. That is more or less the main
staff that will be covering the tourof France here on the viewer. They
have kindly accompanied us and I willbe in command of that platoon, as
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you have well said and let usnot forget the brilliant performance as well.
Daniel Felipe Martinez put to good inthat turn of Italy. Just like you,
you follow the wheel of the spectator. The contents can also be viewed
through our digital page, our printmedia. But the race is also seen
through Caracol Sports, the screen ofthe great rides of cycling, which has
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already come for several years covering thebig laps. Today, as a special
guest, we have John Jaime OsorioJJ, who is part of that trio
between World Champion Santiago Te and GeorginaRuiz the goda that covers these races,
which they also follow at wheel.But from Caracoles Port, from the sign
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of Caracol Televisión andrés sito has warnedme that already John Jaime is with us,
John Jaime, welcome to this spaceof Spectadorjon Jaimen, journalist of long
history today also part of Blue Ray, of this participation in Caracol Sporz and
Jaime. I wanted to start bywelcoming you and Caracol. He has been
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with this group for several years,as I said, covering the big laps,
as has also been that experience andwhat it is to cover this race
next to, for example, aworld champion such as Santiago Otero Hello,
a bold one for everyone. Thankyou for the invitation to the viewer,
who will always be my journalistic home. I was around for some time as
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the viewer managed and well, readyand ready. Today we torched with the
presentation of teams at eleven and thirtyin the morning. By the same team
we' ve been in nine seasons. This is the ninth season of Caracoles
post with cycling fim and we hope, therefore, to be up to what
the viewers of snail are waiting for, that surely it will be a show
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on the road and then, obviously, a journalistic work of state content and
I believe or that we had problemsin teaching from the moment. I think
we' ve got it all overagain. I did We missed you for
a moment You' re talking abouthim. It was the ninth season.
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Yes, in the daughter- in- law season it is our Cape Tour,
because in the first season we onlywent back to Spain. Then we
are ready and waiting to be expectedby the viewers with the content we have
prepared, with the style that wehave already purged in these nine years and
obviously, with the expectation that itwill be a great career. For everything
that has happened this year and foreverything that has generated, particularly this tour
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hundreds is that the single edition numberalready has some magic. The repetition of
the duo in the hundred and elevenedition is the one that runs this year
and here we will be John Jaime, besides that he had j one of
the most read blogs in this newspaperas well. He also wrote in this
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publishing house and wanted to start byalso asking him about the importance of what
is the Tour de France. Let' s say one of the oldest competitions
in the world, the Tour deFrance, the most important cycling race and
that for many years was also themost important competition of the world' s
sport. Today, say cycling hascome down from those showcases to give way
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to other more spectacular sports in termsof business spectacle. Such, but cycling
remains in force and the Tour deFrance still has that importance. Or gem
to explain to us the importance alsoof what is the Tour de France for
the world of cycles. The tourof France is the main course of cycling.
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Making the analogy with the restaurant there, we already had a very good
entrance, which is the shot ofItaly. See the main course, which
is the tour and then come thepostter which is the return to Spain.
So, pretty much the order atthe cycling restaurant. The tour is the
great race is the great event ofthe world cycling. It is the different
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race that has a precision in thedetails, in the organization, in the
logistics, in the journey that eachtime is trying to surprise with something new
and strange. Surely it will andI think that within the events of the
sport of the world, because ofthose that are done every year, the
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Tour de France in cycling is,say, the center of attention. In
fact, all the word tour teamsprepare their best gala, premiere their best
uniforms. He' s gonna doit. El Bora, with the new
network sponsor, has its best vaultfor this race that begins on Saturday and
that we will have today at elevenand thirty two in the morning. Already
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the presentation of teams in the cityof forgos profe. I want to get
a little more into it and Iwant to talk and ask you a little
bit about what' s coming.And on time, I have two questions.
The first one is about the finishof the stage, because we have
of the stage of the race,because we will have a very special triumvirate
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in the last three days with thosefinish on Friday and Saturday of the Alps
and the counterclockwise in the last stage, only to leave a data loose to
the spectators of this space. Thelast time the tour was closed with a
counterclockwise clock was in a thousand ninehundred and eighty- nine, with that
spectacular duel between Gregglemot and the Hurradde Piñón, which ends, of course,
as was seen when Roglie was robbedof the tour. A few years
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ago in a debate for seconds,how you end up in the race,
especially because we are not used toit. We are used to walking in
the fields of choice, but theydecided to change it to a contrary,
Beniza, which, in my opinion, guarantees a little more spectacle and,
taking into account the profile of therunners we have, can be a business
person. It is not common forbig turns to end with one against the
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orc. Usually there already by traditionwhat some call the victory walk, which
is not a walk. The laststage of the circuit in the capital.
This year, for logistical reasons,the Olympic Games begin five days after the
hard one is over. Then itdidn' t hit all the logistics in
Paris and start the Games eight dayslater. Then they decided to give it
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a different ending and decided to doit in Nisa, in the Mediterranean,
in the summer, with forty degreescento and degrees of temperature. And in
order to finish betting on the designof the race that Ahorita was talking about,
we are surprised with a counterclock inthe closing and, in fact,
in the press conferences this week.Yesterday I was listening to Ponache. They
have heard some of those who havespoken the delimios who spoke and all speak
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of it against it. Somehow,everyone knows what happens in the three weeks.
In that final counter- rule itcan be decided around because it has
particularities, it has two respects.It is the last stage after three weeks
of activity and if suddenly the differencesare not generous, we can have a
big surprise at the end. Infact, the last time it was resolved
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to find him, we had thatfamous eight- second throne that the Club
of France resolved. I particularly liketo end a stage like this, but
I know that cyclists are going tobe given an extra expense, an additional
pressure, because they are finally goingto have to arrive with energy reserve for
the last stage and will not beable to book in a race that has
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more than fifty thousand meters. Ofthat level it is very difficult to reserve
energies for the end. I thinkuntil the last day we' re going
to have drama and that somehow alsoguarantees that the show is majority. Speaking
of that timescale, they also remindedme two years ago, when Roglich won
the Giro, that last stage,which was so beautiful in the Giro of
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Italy. Rodrich, who' sgonna be one of the favorites, who
' s gonna be here on therun. Yes, c to you that
has more another plant. They don' t remember go that lost no one
making it clear well, I alsowanted to ask teacher because we already talked
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to Fernando of favorites. But ontime, I' d like to ask
you about the Bismalisa Bike case,because it hasn' t been the lucky
year. Let' s say wecould make the analogy, that the Juwi
was gone. The Bisma almost losttheir luck with four runners ending the Giro
de Italia. They drop Binge garckaVaert falls off that cous after aligning the
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formation for this tour of France andit' s a little n uan gnita
what might be the champion' steam of the race. You do not
see, because while Pogachar is thegreat favorite and comes to raze in Italy,
for Binger has already seen that ithas been the worst coming in the
last years of the fight from Youto You. Sport is a wonder when
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we come from a year of absolutedomination, of hegemony, of winning the
three greats, of winning everything atleast in matter of three great turns.
Everyone thought the team was going tocontinue with that hegemony, with that dominance,
despite Rocklis' departure, because theteam is a very powerful team.
But this year adversity came to them, as it reaches us all in life,
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with health issues, with financial issues, with affective issues, the adversity
came to him, the jumbo wasread, it is the main sponsor and
it seems that that I would havefallen as a curse. But, but
finally, it is nothing other thanthe reality of sport now, in the
midst of adversity, of the discreetpride they had, of the problems to
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arm, the payroll, of thefall of binge, I think what they
have now is a great opportunity tovindicate themselves in the midst of adversity,
and that would give time to history. In case the puzzle is able to
fight hand in hand, the tourwould already be a superlative show and I
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think we would have a lot ofmaterial for the chronicles that we like the
chronicle. A little bit of colorhistory, from drama to narrative would seem
spectacular to me and I think itis time for, in the midst of
adversity, a competitive bisma arises,a bisma arises that gives the fight manua
hand to Apogasia and Alugae, whoseems this time the inventable team, the
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super armed, the great team.So it' s the opportunity and I
think we' re going to suddenlygo down that line of story and we
' re going to have a veryprotagonist bisma. I would love it not
to be a loving hand between two, but to be a hand- to
- hand in three, three orsuddenly four pedalists fighting for the title.
Of course, the great unknown isfrom Vinge garde I also wanted to ask
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you what I read in an interview, and not that if Binge Gargana,
the turel no longer understood anything,because it is also unknown to know between
those to us we were talking aboutfour favorites in that choral fight that you
were talking about jjo and I wantedto ask you precisely for that. I
mean, binge gard comes hit,he comes with a low pace of competition,
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obviously, after that accident to waitand he can say the race with
the passage of stages, because Ithink bingen gar, if his great condition
does not come, but he hasthree weeks to acquire it. And we
' ve talked about the last stageof that against that as the setting for
defining the race. If you sortof avenge the first week, you'
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re going to find Fordo' spoint, because the story of ways at
the time competes and all of asudden. If I let go of that
first week and raffle that first weekis to nuance the loss that I don
' t waste much time on thatone in that first week. If you
manage to win the first week wellfor a minute, minute and a half
in relation to the other candidates,you can have a spectacular tour finish,
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because you will also have the bodymore rested in relation to the others.
Having fallen, having made the recovery, obviously did not allow him to reach
100 percent. But suddenly I want100% on the eight or ten days
of competition, and that would bespectacular. That' s what I'
m waiting for from Bingen Gar.But I know that the issue was very
complex, although the recovery processes arenow insane. The medical issue, the
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subject of physiotherapy, has changed somuch that they already recover us in fifteen
twenty days and put us to amuch faster than ans jj we also wanted
to take advantage that you here totalk about ours we come from a turn
of Italy in which Daniel Felipe Martínezrecovered like that hope for the cyclist and
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there is a lot of expectation ofwhat egan bernal can do in this race
that we also receive today the newsthat he will not be able to be
in the Olympic Games after not receivingpermission from the lianeo. There will be
Santiago Buitrago. You. How tosee the possibilities of ours, that we
remember are going to be four eganbernal Santiago Buitrago, precisely Harold Jada and
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Fernando Gaviria. How he sees thepossibilities of Colombians to be protagonists, perhaps
not in the lot of great favoriteswe were talking about, but the Colombians
who are to star in stages,to fight some good position in the general
standings. Well, then let's go on the side. I believe
that Entretejada and Gaviria are Pope's options for victory. They' re
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gonna go to that Tejala on themountain, get into the leaks and Gavibrie
in the Springs, on massive arrivalsthey' re gonna have the best in
the world. Now it is,and I think Fernando, because if in
the Giro it was not given,now it is up to him to try
to see if he is given theturn, he will try to surprise is
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to shout from afar, as healready did in the Giro, to attack
himself a few seconds, before,a few meters before long attacks of four
hundred meters to the sprint and inone of those they put us to celebrate.
Those two are stage options, thebuzzing thing is very interesting because it
' s your first tour, becauseit' s about rank- and-
file. They have already given himthat blessing next to Pecho Bilbao, but
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Pello is more of a man standingfor cover search. I believe that Buitrago
being in a top ten would bea beautiful debut on the tour and above
all with the category of rivals thatthere are on this occasion. And about
Egan, although many say it isthe great unknown, I see that Egan
has made a recovery process of threeyears, the first year trying to finish
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the races, the second year becominga Gregarian, contributing to the team,
and this year has been on thescoreboard. If you come to Egan'
s races, this year at allhe' s been in two ten in
the stage races has been fourth.He' s been third in the scoreboard
then for Egan' s recovery process. I think being in a top five
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overall ranking would be a great achievementand it would be a way of showing
the world that, after an accidentlike the one he had, one can
acquire a very high point, thingsthat has not happened with many cyclists,
Brun case to mention one, butthat in the case of Egan is suddenly
different by age, by youth,by the same recovery process and by the
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way they have carried it on theteam. It' s time for you
to win something, something very interestingthat you wanted to be in this toxin.
I think we' re going thatway with Papa' s victory with
weaving or with gabiria and figuration inthe top fixed classification Onegan and compi Tral
would be a balance. In theend, Age party had a balance.
Show. Egan Bernal awakens a lotof illusion and Santiago Uitrago seems interesting to
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me. That said also because eganhad very good results, but I remember
at the beginning of the season thatSantiago bi Trago also had a very good
participation in the Paris Nice, whichis unfortunate. Accident avoided a victory when
he was doing very well. Inthe general classification, I find also interesting
the role that Santiago Buitrago and eganBernal may have in the race It will
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be an addition, because there isa detail with the general classification, because
we come from three, even fouroccasions in a row where we have seen
a duel one by one, Roglisor Gathar or Garchar Pinginger and pogas Sha
pingen Gar by four, because twotitles have been distributed. Well, let
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' s say with Gastar Bingger forthirteen,' cause the first one was
with Robbins. But this tour eastof two thousand twenty- four, I
don' t think it' sgoing to be a world against one or
a team against another. It's not Bisma versus Qae. Wine has
a lot to say. The parelhas a lot to say, or it
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has a lot to say. Thenfour, three, four or five teams
are going to appear with an interestin fighting the race and that buried the
strategy teams. It changes a lot, because it is no longer one who
goes to the offensive and another onewho goes to defend and control. They
are already going to be several actorstrying to fish in that initial fight that
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everyone announces between Bingen Gar and Pogha. Suddenly we end up seeing a different
season and that will give us amuch better show Prof Eight arrivals in plain,
four of half mountain, seven ofmountain four, arrivals in high two,
counterclockwise this time and two days ofrest. He liked this tour.
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What' s missing, what's left of him. I love it.
I like to be this better thanthe last three or four years.
Pass the Galivierio in the first weekhas counterclockwise at the end, which has
two rather complex respects. They finishNisa' s heat in the Mediterranean,
which is very particular. He goesthrough four countries, because he leaves Italy.
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Pass the San Marino. Obviously there' s French territory and it'
s transiting. The other one hadalso been forgotten. So, two pray
for Andorra. I believe by oneof the teros principalized by Barcelona. It
' s a tour. It isa tour that has for the strinters,
that has for the climbers, thathas for the complete runners and that has
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expectation until the end and that hasthe mountain from the first to the last
week that usually and that already Ithink the organizers have understood, that of
making a first week flat so thatthe sprinters will contest everything and in the
second week they will be required becausethey have nothing more to do. That
' s already painful for you toforget. The flat stages are already interspersed
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with stages of the highest mountain.Even this design of three or four stages
of high mountains followed where the firstand the second of these were taken care
of and left for the closure ofthe trifico or the four in a row.
In the end, then I alreadythink there' s half a mountain
and a high mountain day, theother day there' s a lot.
They weren' t going to contractthe other one any more. The tour
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is very varied and it seems tome that this can give the race a
bigger show. Let' s hopebecause that' s what we think is
unique when you read the tour.Another thing is what happens on the road
when you present anything that occurs incycling or a covid a fall, a
cut in the group, for anyincident and it is a change totally remember
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apogacia. The first time he wonthe turn, he had to chase only
in a wind cut, that isto say, in a stage that lost
about a minute because it was cutand then he had to start attacking and
that changed all the profile he hador all the design the team had.
So, as we already have theexperience of knowing that in the big laps,
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any circumstance that can be race oralien, on climate issues, on
road issues, on road closures,of all this that can pass snow,
any factor can change the race.And that' s like the expectation we
all have, because cycling has thatparticularity. Of course, John Heime,
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now to go, ending the interviewwith scenes steal him more always thanking him
for the space he gave the viewer. You' re also a follower,
a journalist who' s still verywell. The Olympic Cycle, the Colombian
Federation, cycling has just confirmed that, indeed, egan Bernal will not be
in the Olympic Games. You seethese possibilities in the Olympic Games of the
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route selection that will be with DanielFelipe Martínez de Santiago Vitrago and also to
throw the track with the illusion thatKevin Quintero, Colombia, has, with
Kevin Quintero, who will be theflag, besides Marta Bayona. Well,
then let' s go down thetrack. The track is going to give
a medal, what color, whatmetal, I don' t know,
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but between Marta and Quintero there's a medal. At least one of
us is going to be a medalist. And so it is, it is
in the forecast. I believe thatthe Olympic Committee and those of us in
the Olympic cycle on the route arevery complex for two reasons. The filer
for the design of the race hehas. Let' s just say it
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doesn' t have high mountains,it' s just small consecutive mountains.
It' s very classic and wedon' t have big classics, even
if Ubitrago goes, that Buitrago doeswell in that kind of race. And
second, because we don' thave teams. We run two runners.
There are countries that carry the fullquota, with four, with three,
with four, with five cyclists,and that allows them a different job and
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strategy. It' s gonna behard, but there' s gotta be.
Let us remember that Ecuador won theOlympic Medal with peace face without having
a team. Then they were alreadygiven taking advantage of a career reading and
an attack at an opportune time.There we might have some choice, but
it' s not one of themedals you say because the BMX one knows
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there' s a big medal possibilityout there. On the track, there
is a great possibility of medal Inweights, there is a great possibility of
medal In boxing there is a greatpossibility of medal. But one looks at
the crac and one says no.There' s no big chance. There
' s a choice to go andcompete. I think the fact that he
' s not egan but this buitragodoesn' t change much all of a
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sudden. The Federation failed to makethe payroll and the alternate, because the
European payrolls told us these are theones that go and this is the alternate.
In case there was any circumstance likethey just happened. But I imagine,
then, that they did not communicateit, but surely they had it
as plan B as an alternate toa buitrago because it immediately announces Egan.
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The Federation already knew that I hadthe subject with Buitrago and it seems to
me that we have two great exponents, that Daniel can make a very interesting
timing theme suddenly with aspiration to bean Olympic diploma and that Egan Forgiveness.
Santiago and Daniel can, if theyknow, read the race at the right
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time and they are in court,which is in that classic actress that the
Olympic medal can have some, because, John Jaime jj User, thank you
very much for participating in this spaceof the spectator, in this sports forum
and extend the invitation to follow therace through snail television, which is the
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house of the three great turns,as JJ told us from the beginning,
and nine seasons at the wheel ofthose races. Jtta. Many thanks to
eleven and thirty today the presentation ofthe pressure and from Saturday we go at
six and thirty in the morning onmain screen in the art of two,
on the tour by Caracol, comwe go on YouTube every day from six
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and thirty in the morning or onmain screen weekend we will be at eight,
but weekend on holiday we also gofrom six our Jtjo. Thank you
very much and until a next time. Well, Huguito did. I think
you get a very good panorama ofthe tour of France and also remind people
that the contents of this Tour ofFrance can be seen through the website,
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the viewer, our printed pages andcan be heard by wheel, because the
spectator will go to the wheel ofcycling. In this new season of the
Tour de France, we did notwant to leave without talking about two joint
tracks. That is very important becausefootball is also still hot at the stage
of definitions around, for example,the Euro Cup, which already enters that
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stage of definitions. If we wereto ask him, Andrés quoted the painting
of the eighth of the finals sothat Hugito would tell us those crosses to
inform the people who are seeing usof how these eighth of the end of
the Euro two thousand twenty- fourwill be played, because the main key,
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the Rio painting you see is facingSpain with Georgia. I think maybe
the surprise of that round- upgroup phase with impressive Kelia karabats. Germany.
The big favorite I said here thefirst time I was invited and held
it. The big favorite to taketo this euro is the local. It
faces Denmark, which is always agood competitor, Portugal, which yesterday pits
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a little against Georgia, is facingSlovenia, France, France, yes,
France, it is going to confrontBélica and close that main picture, this
left side of the confrontation by keyringRomania, another of the good teams that
has been shown that Colombia won thispart in them friendly this year. He
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' s fighting the Netherlands, Austria, he' s going to fight Turkey.
Good fight, you know. Englandis going to fight against the Czech
Republic. Not against it here againstSlovakia. You are absolutely right and the
painting closes it in Switzerland against Italy. I think it' s a duel
we' ve seen enough of.Yeah, I think this picture is kind
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of loaded to the left. Itis all the most interesting and I differ
a little bit from you on thesubject of Germany, so we had raised
it as a favorite. Yeah,I think he' s holding on,
' cause he' s the bestfootball ever showed. But I personally believe
that Spain was the one that showedthe best football, winning its three games,
making nine points. You said Colombiabeat Romania. Colombia also beat Spain,
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but I think Tamania and Germany,I think it' s the big
favorite. Spain, with a veryyoung generation, the mingyamal Nico Williams,
paired player is basically the same playfullycase of student little more than what Spain
did, because it was with alittle more play And what I like that
Spain ligating from the idea of thetikitaka, which I believe had already done
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more damage than benefit to that identityof Spanish lately. It is also a
different generation, I tell you,because that is the so- called Tiki
Taka generation. It came from aclear general, but it' s the
barsante was is laginh Liguen. That' s why we' re no longer
tied to the fact that we alwayshave to play with that idea. And
that seems to me to be verypositive. And I think that already extrapolating
him a little bit from this grouppathat is the path that Barcelona has to
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follow, because if you realize howmany players Barcelona, that plantínico Williams,
that is the figure that supposedly wantsit Barcelona. Yeah, I think so.
Now there' s a comparison Iwanted to make that seems important to
me. He had been told beforestarting the program, and it is that
either Italian carique equal to that ofthe pierre in two thousand sixteen and at
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the last exact minute, but hewas going to say much about the level
of the Copa América. Doing thecomparison. The two lathes are played at
the same time by the low levelshown by the tournament. It must also
be said under various conditions. Thisof the courts that have complained all the
teams, from Argentina, Brazil,Colombia, all the teams have complained the
climate incredulously empty tribuneos, that is, the United States, as it has
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failed to worry in view of theWorld Cup of two thousand twenty- six
and that, undoubtedly has impacted onthe level of the tournament. But it
also speaks, as we are talkingabout the Eurocup. To me I would
like to analyze that much is criticizedto the Copa América for the level of
Argentina, the level that perhaps showedUruguay, even Colombia, that is,
did not show its best football ofthe tournament, tournaments that are of difficult
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matches, but in the eurocopasión analyzesof the great favorites, because there are
also many doubts. France does notconvince, England does not convince, Belgium
does not convince, that is,Italy entered with doubts. The Netherlands also
goes with doubts, that is tosay, in that comparison it would also
be necessary to talk that in thatEurocup, the big ones have also failed
And if they have seen exciting matches, but as in the Copa América,
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also one could not speak from thegame Uruguay Panama. Yesterday Venezuela Mexico was
also very exciting. I don't think the level is as uneven as
it' s ever been. Andif I believe that Eurocopa, the big
favorites have not shown a big face, except Spain and perhaps Germany, which
even Germany pifio already almost there overthe final in the last game. What
do I see there about what you' re saying? When Uruguay played against
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Panama, I saw a comment inx that said more or less it was
crazy to see how a central beingplaying in Honduras was making life impossible for
Liverpool' s striker, of course, but how that game ended. Three
one ends up getting into Uruguay,and it is rather because giving Winúñez we
know how he behaves and that heusually misses many before putting a pair In
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contrast, if you, in Europe, we are not talking about the central
that plays in Honduras, we aretalking about that Cabaraskelia, who is the
figure of Georgia, where he plays, plays in Napoli, which where he
plays the central of Romania, playsin the Tottenh in the best league in
the world, which is England,and comes from playing before in Italy.
So I think that if you makea little bit, the difference in terms
of the America Cup, which alwaysinternally still has a significant difference and that
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you play more is because you clingto the European teams than even more unknown,
that they are your players have atleast one or two in the most
important leagues in the world and thatthey reach to make the difference. And
I think that there have been ratherlittle teams that have played and have shown
low level in the Euro Cup thatend up remaining outside teams like Croatia.
That already says a lot about thedifferent level being played in the Eurocup.
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I think it' s very muchthere. Yes, I differ with you,
I think it' s a littledifferent to talk about a tournament that
is badly contested like the Euro Cup, and that makes life more difficult for
the big teams that are showing ratherlittle, like Chile and like Peru in
this Copa América that takes for itssecond date. Yes, well, yes
there we differ totally because I believebecause, for example, on this subject
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of the players that you said,a lot is talked about those figures,
but the vast majority of the figuresthat are in the America Cup are the
figures that shine there in Europe,then, in the big clubs that you
were saying and I think that atthe level it is even, is that
they are tournaments that are difficult andperhaps the Eurocopagana in that emotionality with shared
like the one that there was Georgia, Turkey, that are open matches and
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that have had a Peru, zeroChile, zero that on the date one
I am already saying. I've seen games. I think it is
clear that it is a common placewhere one that there are I have seen
matches in this Eurocup that are quitea lot. It is also true that
the volume of matches is almost twicewhat we are going to talk about in
the Copa América, but also anequi a tournament in which four better thirds
pass also the do the tournament.I think I' m going to be
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a petitide They passed the best sixteenand were already eliminated from each other.
But then, who are we forthat? We go for a World Cup
with 48 teams. I think we' re going down a non- brake
curve on that subject, these eighth- finals. If my memory doesn'
t fail, I didn' thave it here See, I' m
looking for it here fast. Theystart these final eighths, if I'
m not bad, the same Saturday, the same Saturday that begins the tour
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of France. Yes, look atthis sado with the duel between Switzerland and
Italy. Colombian hour eleven in themorning and now to close Huguito. We
cannot let it happen that tomorrow Fridayplays his second game, the Colombian team
in the Copa América against Costa Rica. Same hour five in the afternoon also
broadcast the goal Caracol and you willbe able to follow all the content of
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the Colombia selection in the spectator.How I' m going to that first
game. Which we were talking abouta little hard. They are all of
the new difficult complexes and Colombia withHierarchy brought out a result that I had
brought out and I read a previousthat I found quite interesting, which said
Alfaro was the black beast of theColombian selection. Well, well, I
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wasn' t in this house severalworlds and several qualifiers. Commenting match-
to- game what the Colombia teamis. I think there is a man
on the South American football scene whoknows how he can play Colombia, who
knows how to play his figures.He likes the lighthouse and good modesty.
Besides, they have as their defenseleader a guy who knows the local rent
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well, which is Juan Pablo Vargas. It has a new generation that is
never easy to consolidate a process,but that has already been planted with Brazil
that, in theory, even thoughit is downhill it is always one of
the favorites. I think it's not going to be easy, I
think it' s going to bea very closed game, but yes,
I think there' s a littlestep and a margin of difference from which
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Colombia can' t have to takeadvantage. Yes, because we also have
to take advantage of that Brazilian tie. Pa to close his early ranking.
It has to be said this way, that is, Costa Rica is a
difficult team, because alpha to seethe teams, but the numbers of alpha
in Costa Rica so far are notgood. Of course, that is to
say, Colombia comes with that favoritism. But that' s what we talked
about. A difficult tournament, acomplicated tournament and a game that will surely
be, that is, the onethat expects Colombia to flourish tomorrow. I
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don' t think it' sa match. I think it' s
going to be a difficult game,with a very close defense, perhaps similar
to the game with Paraguay or evenmore difficult. Playful with this, we
' re already saying goodbye. Thischapter of sports gallery. It was played
so because we talked about tour ofFrance, Eurocup, Copa America, but
it is the sports current of themoment that we are living and already facing
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what comes, because we are goingon tour of France. Start Wimbledon.
They come after the Olympic Games.Definitively, it had Paralympic Games and the
women' s league continues to bedefined in Colombian football. That is to
say, there are all the spectatorsof this sporting forum. Thank you very
much for being here, Hector andAndrés, Hector Andrés for being there behind
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the scenes and, of course,J Sorio, who was our guest,
to follow the contents of the viewerto whom they are watching this broadcast.
We continue to be connected to asports forum and continue to be connected from
the newspaper to all the current sportingevents in the world. Thank you so
much for being here and until nexttime.
Friends, friends welcome to a sportsforum, a spectator space immersed in the
full definition of the Eurocup. Alsoafter Colombia' s triumphant debut in the
Copa América against Paraguay, in amatch that ended two one and also,
with the figure of the almost eightyalready passed by Colombia' s Olympic quotas
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in Paris two thousand twenty- four. On the horizon of the Colombian sport,
begins the Tour de France, whichwill go from this Saturday until the
next twenty- first of July.It is the great sporting event that begins
in these coming weeks and that hasa great poster with the names of the
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best cyclists of the moment, withfour Colombians also that will start in race
and that is the event that wewere also waiting for to start to solve
the doubts, the our cognitas ofwhat this tour of France will provide.
Today we invite Huguito Caro Played SantiagoCaro, journalist of the spectator and in
addition, man in charge of apodcast wheel, the Podcast of the viewer
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who follows in the footsteps of thegreat turns of cycling. We' re
starting with the Giro de Italia.The Tour de France is coming. Huguito,
welcome, you already accumulate several titlesin this sporting forum. Thank you,
Fernando, a great greeting for allthose who so far connect here in
a sports forum, in another spaceof the spectator, to talk about sports,
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to analyze what is happening with theColombian athletes and, of course,
to go to the wheel of ourcyclists who are already ready to leave from
Florence, Italy. First time inhistory that the Tour de France is going
out from outside, from Italy,because from outside already out. In fact,
that country number thirteen that welcomes thedeparture of the tour, but this
time it will be special because itdoes so from the country that comes from
finishing the Giro de Italia. Moreover, this year that the race arrives in
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Nice, because it does not arrivein Paris, there are no elliptical fields,
as it is tradition for the organizationof the Olympic Games in Paris two
thousand twenty- four, which willbegin a few days after the end of
the Tour de France, on 26July I flee. I had to ask
you the last time you were here. We were talking about the Colombian football
finals from one to ten. Thelevel of soccer tusa. How was it?
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It was like an eight. Itwas strong, yes, of course
incredible. I was thinking that oneof the amazing things is that, in
the middle of the sporty Boragina,the hurricane of emotions that we have that
ending has not been two weeks,but it seems like it was a month
ago and in that coincidence we arealso in the definition of the Euro Cup,
which seems to have started a lotof time ago. Also well,
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whenever it was little, we closedour eyes, opened it and we'
re already in the final eighths.Of course we' ll talk about all
these things today, but we wantto start with the Tour de France.
Hugo. We' re going tobe on the wheel of this race,
we' re going to be keepingan eye on what' s going to
be a race that has four bigfavorites, I would say in the four
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- three networks, you reduce themto three. What are your favorites.
Or there was, because I thinkthat doesn' t come out of Typo
Gachard. I don' t thinkhe' s leaving Jonas Binggetgar. That
it' s a little unknown toknow how it comes, because it fell
very little ago, fell with Remcovenepoland well, if you want to put
a room in it, let's talk about cousin roblic but cousins,
because it is also an even biggerhonic, because it comes with a team
almost that new. Now Red BullBora is launching sponsorship. There' s
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four of them. He accepted thefour on that side, but yes,
I think it' s interesting tosee how it' s going to be
for again, after quite a longtime, which is having four competitors on
an almost similar level, because ifthere are three runners who can, at
least dispute him from Tuba. Hehad in several stages Tak Pogachard. They
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' re the three in this race. We had already seen toa Bin Gegar.
You are watching him on screen competingagainst Pogachar, but this time Rowlie,
who is no longer the same LisaBike, but is the Red Bullbora,
joins as a new competitor and alsohas a poster and a team that
can be quite interesting to support himin that fight during the three weeks.
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Then there are three, almost fourfavorites who have something to contend with,
and that gives the tour a competitivenessthat it suddenly does a long time ago.
We didn' t drink. Idon' t personally think it'
s a two- person race anymore. No, I think we can be
excited and hope that there will bemore competition and more firewood and that it
will not be as soon as theGiro of Italy was, which, when
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it had to compete, was rathera prologue of Taipo Gachar that, if
it does not fail me now memory. It was six stages that were reached
in that Italian round, dominating therace from beginning to end Ugitter. Let
' s also explain the concept ofthe wheel we' re going to see.
The guests already covered what was theGiro de Italia in his charge adding
his leadership, which Gregarios we willhave also in this let' s say,
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not second season, but in thiscontinuation of what is going to be
the Tour de France. Of course, a wheel is a product that was
born a little similar to a sportscourt during the Qatar World Cup two thousand
twenty- two. It seems asif it was far away I was commanding
you and I was here, asI am today, wheeling you around and
serving Gregario, taking your little kit. But we got him to mutate to
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a podcast in which, during thetwenty- one days of competition, we
were with a luxury campus, witha large staff, following him the track,
being wheeled from that platoon. Ofcourse, of the Colombian cyclists we
were excited with Airo Quintana, wewere there with Juan Sebastián Molano and Fernando
Gaviria and here in the spectator,we were analyzing day by day what was
that race that, well, wasbasically the consecration of pogachar in Italy,
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but that also gave us many entertainingdays and for this tour of France is
renewed, of course, with thesame plant. We will be in an
alliance with steel horse, this groupof cycling fans that had been in the
field of cycling analysis and journalism forseveral years. We will be with Lina
Bonilla, who is one of thepeople who knows most about cycling in Colombia
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today, who is driving a lotto the freelancer, who will also be
commenting on the race and Spain fora radio station. We will be with
a statistician Jorge Villaseca of historical classifications. That is more or less the main
staff that will be covering the tourof France here on the viewer. They
have kindly accompanied us and I willbe in command of that platoon, as
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you have well said and let usnot forget the brilliant performance as well.
Daniel Felipe Martinez put to good inthat turn of Italy. Just like you,
you follow the wheel of the spectator. The contents can also be viewed
through our digital page, our printmedia. But the race is also seen
through Caracol Sports, the screen ofthe great rides of cycling, which has
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already come for several years covering thebig laps. Today, as a special
guest, we have John Jaime OsorioJJ, who is part of that trio
between World Champion Santiago Te and GeorginaRuiz the goda that covers these races,
which they also follow at wheel.But from Caracoles Port, from the sign
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of Caracol Televisión andrés sito has warnedme that already John Jaime is with us,
John Jaime, welcome to this spaceof Spectadorjon Jaimen, journalist of long
history today also part of Blue Ray, of this participation in Caracol Sporz and
Jaime. I wanted to start bywelcoming you and Caracol. He has been
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with this group for several years,as I said, covering the big laps,
as has also been that experience andwhat it is to cover this race
next to, for example, aworld champion such as Santiago Otero Hello,
a bold one for everyone. Thankyou for the invitation to the viewer,
who will always be my journalistic home. I was around for some time as
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the viewer managed and well, readyand ready. Today we torched with the
presentation of teams at eleven and thirtyin the morning. By the same team
we' ve been in nine seasons. This is the ninth season of Caracoles
post with cycling fim and we hope, therefore, to be up to what
the viewers of snail are waiting for, that surely it will be a show
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on the road and then, obviously, a journalistic work of state content and
I believe or that we had problemsin teaching from the moment. I think
we' ve got it all overagain. I did We missed you for
a moment You' re talking abouthim. It was the ninth season.
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Yes, in the daughter- in- law season it is our Cape Tour,
because in the first season we onlywent back to Spain. Then we
are ready and waiting to be expectedby the viewers with the content we have
prepared, with the style that wehave already purged in these nine years and
obviously, with the expectation that itwill be a great career. For everything
that has happened this year and foreverything that has generated, particularly this tour
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hundreds is that the single edition numberalready has some magic. The repetition of
the duo in the hundred and elevenedition is the one that runs this year
and here we will be John Jaime, besides that he had j one of
the most read blogs in this newspaperas well. He also wrote in this
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publishing house and wanted to start byalso asking him about the importance of what
is the Tour de France. Let' s say one of the oldest competitions
in the world, the Tour deFrance, the most important cycling race and
that for many years was also themost important competition of the world' s
sport. Today, say cycling hascome down from those showcases to give way
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to other more spectacular sports in termsof business spectacle. Such, but cycling
remains in force and the Tour deFrance still has that importance. Or gem
to explain to us the importance alsoof what is the Tour de France for
the world of cycles. The tourof France is the main course of cycling.
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Making the analogy with the restaurant there, we already had a very good
entrance, which is the shot ofItaly. See the main course, which
is the tour and then come thepostter which is the return to Spain.
So, pretty much the order atthe cycling restaurant. The tour is the
great race is the great event ofthe world cycling. It is the different
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race that has a precision in thedetails, in the organization, in the
logistics, in the journey that eachtime is trying to surprise with something new
and strange. Surely it will andI think that within the events of the
sport of the world, because ofthose that are done every year, the
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Tour de France in cycling is,say, the center of attention. In
fact, all the word tour teamsprepare their best gala, premiere their best
uniforms. He' s gonna doit. El Bora, with the new
network sponsor, has its best vaultfor this race that begins on Saturday and
that we will have today at elevenand thirty two in the morning. Already
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the presentation of teams in the cityof forgos profe. I want to get
a little more into it and Iwant to talk and ask you a little
bit about what' s coming.And on time, I have two questions.
The first one is about the finishof the stage, because we have
of the stage of the race,because we will have a very special triumvirate
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in the last three days with thosefinish on Friday and Saturday of the Alps
and the counterclockwise in the last stage, only to leave a data loose to
the spectators of this space. Thelast time the tour was closed with a
counterclockwise clock was in a thousand ninehundred and eighty- nine, with that
spectacular duel between Gregglemot and the Hurradde Piñón, which ends, of course,
as was seen when Roglie was robbedof the tour. A few years
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ago in a debate for seconds,how you end up in the race,
especially because we are not used toit. We are used to walking in
the fields of choice, but theydecided to change it to a contrary,
Beniza, which, in my opinion, guarantees a little more spectacle and,
taking into account the profile of therunners we have, can be a business
person. It is not common forbig turns to end with one against the
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orc. Usually there already by traditionwhat some call the victory walk, which
is not a walk. The laststage of the circuit in the capital.
This year, for logistical reasons,the Olympic Games begin five days after the
hard one is over. Then itdidn' t hit all the logistics in
Paris and start the Games eight dayslater. Then they decided to give it
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a different ending and decided to doit in Nisa, in the Mediterranean,
in the summer, with forty degreescento and degrees of temperature. And in
order to finish betting on the designof the race that Ahorita was talking about,
we are surprised with a counterclock inthe closing and, in fact,
in the press conferences this week.Yesterday I was listening to Ponache. They
have heard some of those who havespoken the delimios who spoke and all speak
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of it against it. Somehow,everyone knows what happens in the three weeks.
In that final counter- rule itcan be decided around because it has
particularities, it has two respects.It is the last stage after three weeks
of activity and if suddenly the differencesare not generous, we can have a
big surprise at the end. Infact, the last time it was resolved
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to find him, we had thatfamous eight- second throne that the Club
of France resolved. I particularly liketo end a stage like this, but
I know that cyclists are going tobe given an extra expense, an additional
pressure, because they are finally goingto have to arrive with energy reserve for
the last stage and will not beable to book in a race that has
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more than fifty thousand meters. Ofthat level it is very difficult to reserve
energies for the end. I thinkuntil the last day we' re going
to have drama and that somehow alsoguarantees that the show is majority. Speaking
of that timescale, they also remindedme two years ago, when Roglich won
the Giro, that last stage,which was so beautiful in the Giro of
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Italy. Rodrich, who' sgonna be one of the favorites, who
' s gonna be here on therun. Yes, c to you that
has more another plant. They don' t remember go that lost no one
making it clear well, I alsowanted to ask teacher because we already talked
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to Fernando of favorites. But ontime, I' d like to ask
you about the Bismalisa Bike case,because it hasn' t been the lucky
year. Let' s say wecould make the analogy, that the Juwi
was gone. The Bisma almost losttheir luck with four runners ending the Giro
de Italia. They drop Binge garckaVaert falls off that cous after aligning the
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formation for this tour of France andit' s a little n uan gnita
what might be the champion' steam of the race. You do not
see, because while Pogachar is thegreat favorite and comes to raze in Italy,
for Binger has already seen that ithas been the worst coming in the
last years of the fight from Youto You. Sport is a wonder when
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we come from a year of absolutedomination, of hegemony, of winning the
three greats, of winning everything atleast in matter of three great turns.
Everyone thought the team was going tocontinue with that hegemony, with that dominance,
despite Rocklis' departure, because theteam is a very powerful team.
But this year adversity came to them, as it reaches us all in life,
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with health issues, with financial issues, with affective issues, the adversity
came to him, the jumbo wasread, it is the main sponsor and
it seems that that I would havefallen as a curse. But, but
finally, it is nothing other thanthe reality of sport now, in the
midst of adversity, of the discreetpride they had, of the problems to
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arm, the payroll, of thefall of binge, I think what they
have now is a great opportunity tovindicate themselves in the midst of adversity,
and that would give time to history. In case the puzzle is able to
fight hand in hand, the tourwould already be a superlative show and I
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think we would have a lot ofmaterial for the chronicles that we like the
chronicle. A little bit of colorhistory, from drama to narrative would seem
spectacular to me and I think itis time for, in the midst of
adversity, a competitive bisma arises,a bisma arises that gives the fight manua
hand to Apogasia and Alugae, whoseems this time the inventable team, the
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super armed, the great team.So it' s the opportunity and I
think we' re going to suddenlygo down that line of story and we
' re going to have a veryprotagonist bisma. I would love it not
to be a loving hand between two, but to be a hand- to
- hand in three, three orsuddenly four pedalists fighting for the title.
Of course, the great unknown isfrom Vinge garde I also wanted to ask
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you what I read in an interview, and not that if Binge Gargana,
the turel no longer understood anything,because it is also unknown to know between
those to us we were talking aboutfour favorites in that choral fight that you
were talking about jjo and I wantedto ask you precisely for that. I
mean, binge gard comes hit,he comes with a low pace of competition,
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obviously, after that accident to waitand he can say the race with
the passage of stages, because Ithink bingen gar, if his great condition
does not come, but he hasthree weeks to acquire it. And we
' ve talked about the last stageof that against that as the setting for
defining the race. If you sortof avenge the first week, you'
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re going to find Fordo' spoint, because the story of ways at
the time competes and all of asudden. If I let go of that
first week and raffle that first weekis to nuance the loss that I don
' t waste much time on thatone in that first week. If you
manage to win the first week wellfor a minute, minute and a half
in relation to the other candidates,you can have a spectacular tour finish,
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because you will also have the bodymore rested in relation to the others.
Having fallen, having made the recovery, obviously did not allow him to reach
100 percent. But suddenly I want100% on the eight or ten days
of competition, and that would bespectacular. That' s what I'
m waiting for from Bingen Gar.But I know that the issue was very
complex, although the recovery processes arenow insane. The medical issue, the
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subject of physiotherapy, has changed somuch that they already recover us in fifteen
twenty days and put us to amuch faster than ans jj we also wanted
to take advantage that you here totalk about ours we come from a turn
of Italy in which Daniel Felipe Martínezrecovered like that hope for the cyclist and
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there is a lot of expectation ofwhat egan bernal can do in this race
that we also receive today the newsthat he will not be able to be
in the Olympic Games after not receivingpermission from the lianeo. There will be
Santiago Buitrago. You. How tosee the possibilities of ours, that we
remember are going to be four eganbernal Santiago Buitrago, precisely Harold Jada and
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Fernando Gaviria. How he sees thepossibilities of Colombians to be protagonists, perhaps
not in the lot of great favoriteswe were talking about, but the Colombians
who are to star in stages,to fight some good position in the general
standings. Well, then let's go on the side. I believe
that Entretejada and Gaviria are Pope's options for victory. They' re
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gonna go to that Tejala on themountain, get into the leaks and Gavibrie
in the Springs, on massive arrivalsthey' re gonna have the best in
the world. Now it is,and I think Fernando, because if in
the Giro it was not given,now it is up to him to try
to see if he is given theturn, he will try to surprise is
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to shout from afar, as healready did in the Giro, to attack
himself a few seconds, before,a few meters before long attacks of four
hundred meters to the sprint and inone of those they put us to celebrate.
Those two are stage options, thebuzzing thing is very interesting because it
' s your first tour, becauseit' s about rank- and-
file. They have already given himthat blessing next to Pecho Bilbao, but
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Pello is more of a man standingfor cover search. I believe that Buitrago
being in a top ten would bea beautiful debut on the tour and above
all with the category of rivals thatthere are on this occasion. And about
Egan, although many say it isthe great unknown, I see that Egan
has made a recovery process of threeyears, the first year trying to finish
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the races, the second year becominga Gregarian, contributing to the team,
and this year has been on thescoreboard. If you come to Egan'
s races, this year at allhe' s been in two ten in
the stage races has been fourth.He' s been third in the scoreboard
then for Egan' s recovery process. I think being in a top five
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overall ranking would be a great achievementand it would be a way of showing
the world that, after an accidentlike the one he had, one can
acquire a very high point, thingsthat has not happened with many cyclists,
Brun case to mention one, butthat in the case of Egan is suddenly
different by age, by youth,by the same recovery process and by the
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way they have carried it on theteam. It' s time for you
to win something, something very interestingthat you wanted to be in this toxin.
I think we' re going thatway with Papa' s victory with
weaving or with gabiria and figuration inthe top fixed classification Onegan and compi Tral
would be a balance. In theend, Age party had a balance.
Show. Egan Bernal awakens a lotof illusion and Santiago Uitrago seems interesting to
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me. That said also because eganhad very good results, but I remember
at the beginning of the season thatSantiago bi Trago also had a very good
participation in the Paris Nice, whichis unfortunate. Accident avoided a victory when
he was doing very well. Inthe general classification, I find also interesting
the role that Santiago Buitrago and eganBernal may have in the race It will
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be an addition, because there isa detail with the general classification, because
we come from three, even fouroccasions in a row where we have seen
a duel one by one, Roglisor Gathar or Garchar Pinginger and pogas Sha
pingen Gar by four, because twotitles have been distributed. Well, let
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' s say with Gastar Bingger forthirteen,' cause the first one was
with Robbins. But this tour eastof two thousand twenty- four, I
don' t think it' sgoing to be a world against one or
a team against another. It's not Bisma versus Qae. Wine has
a lot to say. The parelhas a lot to say, or it
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has a lot to say. Thenfour, three, four or five teams
are going to appear with an interestin fighting the race and that buried the
strategy teams. It changes a lot, because it is no longer one who
goes to the offensive and another onewho goes to defend and control. They
are already going to be several actorstrying to fish in that initial fight that
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everyone announces between Bingen Gar and Pogha. Suddenly we end up seeing a different
season and that will give us amuch better show Prof Eight arrivals in plain,
four of half mountain, seven ofmountain four, arrivals in high two,
counterclockwise this time and two days ofrest. He liked this tour.
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What' s missing, what's left of him. I love it.
I like to be this better thanthe last three or four years.
Pass the Galivierio in the first weekhas counterclockwise at the end, which has
two rather complex respects. They finishNisa' s heat in the Mediterranean,
which is very particular. He goesthrough four countries, because he leaves Italy.
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Pass the San Marino. Obviously there' s French territory and it'
s transiting. The other one hadalso been forgotten. So, two pray
for Andorra. I believe by oneof the teros principalized by Barcelona. It
' s a tour. It isa tour that has for the strinters,
that has for the climbers, thathas for the complete runners and that has
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expectation until the end and that hasthe mountain from the first to the last
week that usually and that already Ithink the organizers have understood, that of
making a first week flat so thatthe sprinters will contest everything and in the
second week they will be required becausethey have nothing more to do. That
' s already painful for you toforget. The flat stages are already interspersed
(25:25):
with stages of the highest mountain.Even this design of three or four stages
of high mountains followed where the firstand the second of these were taken care
of and left for the closure ofthe trifico or the four in a row.
In the end, then I alreadythink there' s half a mountain
and a high mountain day, theother day there' s a lot.
They weren' t going to contractthe other one any more. The tour
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is very varied and it seems tome that this can give the race a
bigger show. Let' s hopebecause that' s what we think is
unique when you read the tour.Another thing is what happens on the road
when you present anything that occurs incycling or a covid a fall, a
cut in the group, for anyincident and it is a change totally remember
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apogacia. The first time he wonthe turn, he had to chase only
in a wind cut, that isto say, in a stage that lost
about a minute because it was cutand then he had to start attacking and
that changed all the profile he hador all the design the team had.
So, as we already have theexperience of knowing that in the big laps,
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any circumstance that can be race oralien, on climate issues, on
road issues, on road closures,of all this that can pass snow,
any factor can change the race.And that' s like the expectation we
all have, because cycling has thatparticularity. Of course, John Heime,
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now to go, ending the interviewwith scenes steal him more always thanking him
for the space he gave the viewer. You' re also a follower,
a journalist who' s still verywell. The Olympic Cycle, the Colombian
Federation, cycling has just confirmed that, indeed, egan Bernal will not be
in the Olympic Games. You seethese possibilities in the Olympic Games of the
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route selection that will be with DanielFelipe Martínez de Santiago Vitrago and also to
throw the track with the illusion thatKevin Quintero, Colombia, has, with
Kevin Quintero, who will be theflag, besides Marta Bayona. Well,
then let' s go down thetrack. The track is going to give
a medal, what color, whatmetal, I don' t know,
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but between Marta and Quintero there's a medal. At least one of
us is going to be a medalist. And so it is, it is
in the forecast. I believe thatthe Olympic Committee and those of us in
the Olympic cycle on the route arevery complex for two reasons. The filer
for the design of the race hehas. Let' s just say it
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doesn' t have high mountains,it' s just small consecutive mountains.
It' s very classic and wedon' t have big classics, even
if Ubitrago goes, that Buitrago doeswell in that kind of race. And
second, because we don' thave teams. We run two runners.
There are countries that carry the fullquota, with four, with three,
with four, with five cyclists,and that allows them a different job and
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strategy. It' s gonna behard, but there' s gotta be.
Let us remember that Ecuador won theOlympic Medal with peace face without having
a team. Then they were alreadygiven taking advantage of a career reading and
an attack at an opportune time.There we might have some choice, but
it' s not one of themedals you say because the BMX one knows
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there' s a big medal possibilityout there. On the track, there
is a great possibility of medal Inweights, there is a great possibility of
medal In boxing there is a greatpossibility of medal. But one looks at
the crac and one says no.There' s no big chance. There
' s a choice to go andcompete. I think the fact that he
' s not egan but this buitragodoesn' t change much all of a
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sudden. The Federation failed to makethe payroll and the alternate, because the
European payrolls told us these are theones that go and this is the alternate.
In case there was any circumstance likethey just happened. But I imagine,
then, that they did not communicateit, but surely they had it
as plan B as an alternate toa buitrago because it immediately announces Egan.
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The Federation already knew that I hadthe subject with Buitrago and it seems to
me that we have two great exponents, that Daniel can make a very interesting
timing theme suddenly with aspiration to bean Olympic diploma and that Egan Forgiveness.
Santiago and Daniel can, if theyknow, read the race at the right
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time and they are in court,which is in that classic actress that the
Olympic medal can have some, because, John Jaime jj User, thank you
very much for participating in this spaceof the spectator, in this sports forum
and extend the invitation to follow therace through snail television, which is the
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house of the three great turns,as JJ told us from the beginning,
and nine seasons at the wheel ofthose races. Jtta. Many thanks to
eleven and thirty today the presentation ofthe pressure and from Saturday we go at
six and thirty in the morning onmain screen in the art of two,
on the tour by Caracol, comwe go on YouTube every day from six
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and thirty in the morning or onmain screen weekend we will be at eight,
but weekend on holiday we also gofrom six our Jtjo. Thank you
very much and until a next time. Well, Huguito did. I think
you get a very good panorama ofthe tour of France and also remind people
that the contents of this Tour ofFrance can be seen through the website,
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the viewer, our printed pages andcan be heard by wheel, because the
spectator will go to the wheel ofcycling. In this new season of the
Tour de France, we did notwant to leave without talking about two joint
tracks. That is very important becausefootball is also still hot at the stage
of definitions around, for example,the Euro Cup, which already enters that
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stage of definitions. If we wereto ask him, Andrés quoted the painting
of the eighth of the finals sothat Hugito would tell us those crosses to
inform the people who are seeing usof how these eighth of the end of
the Euro two thousand twenty- fourwill be played, because the main key,
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the Rio painting you see is facingSpain with Georgia. I think maybe
the surprise of that round- upgroup phase with impressive Kelia karabats. Germany.
The big favorite I said here thefirst time I was invited and held
it. The big favorite to taketo this euro is the local. It
faces Denmark, which is always agood competitor, Portugal, which yesterday pits
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a little against Georgia, is facingSlovenia, France, France, yes,
France, it is going to confrontBélica and close that main picture, this
left side of the confrontation by keyringRomania, another of the good teams that
has been shown that Colombia won thispart in them friendly this year. He
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' s fighting the Netherlands, Austria, he' s going to fight Turkey.
Good fight, you know. Englandis going to fight against the Czech
Republic. Not against it here againstSlovakia. You are absolutely right and the
painting closes it in Switzerland against Italy. I think it' s a duel
we' ve seen enough of.Yeah, I think this picture is kind
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of loaded to the left. Itis all the most interesting and I differ
a little bit from you on thesubject of Germany, so we had raised
it as a favorite. Yeah,I think he' s holding on,
' cause he' s the bestfootball ever showed. But I personally believe
that Spain was the one that showedthe best football, winning its three games,
making nine points. You said Colombiabeat Romania. Colombia also beat Spain,
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but I think Tamania and Germany,I think it' s the big
favorite. Spain, with a veryyoung generation, the mingyamal Nico Williams,
paired player is basically the same playfullycase of student little more than what Spain
did, because it was with alittle more play And what I like that
Spain ligating from the idea of thetikitaka, which I believe had already done
(33:37):
more damage than benefit to that identityof Spanish lately. It is also a
different generation, I tell you,because that is the so- called Tiki
Taka generation. It came from aclear general, but it' s the
barsante was is laginh Liguen. That' s why we' re no longer
tied to the fact that we alwayshave to play with that idea. And
that seems to me to be verypositive. And I think that already extrapolating
him a little bit from this grouppathat is the path that Barcelona has to
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follow, because if you realize howmany players Barcelona, that plantínico Williams,
that is the figure that supposedly wantsit Barcelona. Yeah, I think so.
Now there' s a comparison Iwanted to make that seems important to
me. He had been told beforestarting the program, and it is that
either Italian carique equal to that ofthe pierre in two thousand sixteen and at
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the last exact minute, but hewas going to say much about the level
of the Copa América. Doing thecomparison. The two lathes are played at
the same time by the low levelshown by the tournament. It must also
be said under various conditions. Thisof the courts that have complained all the
teams, from Argentina, Brazil,Colombia, all the teams have complained the
climate incredulously empty tribuneos, that is, the United States, as it has
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failed to worry in view of theWorld Cup of two thousand twenty- six
and that, undoubtedly has impacted onthe level of the tournament. But it
also speaks, as we are talkingabout the Eurocup. To me I would
like to analyze that much is criticizedto the Copa América for the level of
Argentina, the level that perhaps showedUruguay, even Colombia, that is,
did not show its best football ofthe tournament, tournaments that are of difficult
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matches, but in the eurocopasión analyzesof the great favorites, because there are
also many doubts. France does notconvince, England does not convince, Belgium
does not convince, that is,Italy entered with doubts. The Netherlands also
goes with doubts, that is tosay, in that comparison it would also
be necessary to talk that in thatEurocup, the big ones have also failed
And if they have seen exciting matches, but as in the Copa América,
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also one could not speak from thegame Uruguay Panama. Yesterday Venezuela Mexico was
also very exciting. I don't think the level is as uneven as
it' s ever been. Andif I believe that Eurocopa, the big
favorites have not shown a big face, except Spain and perhaps Germany, which
even Germany pifio already almost there overthe final in the last game. What
do I see there about what you' re saying? When Uruguay played against
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Panama, I saw a comment inx that said more or less it was
crazy to see how a central beingplaying in Honduras was making life impossible for
Liverpool' s striker, of course, but how that game ended. Three
one ends up getting into Uruguay,and it is rather because giving Winúñez we
know how he behaves and that heusually misses many before putting a pair In
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contrast, if you, in Europe, we are not talking about the central
that plays in Honduras, we aretalking about that Cabaraskelia, who is the
figure of Georgia, where he plays, plays in Napoli, which where he
plays the central of Romania, playsin the Tottenh in the best league in
the world, which is England,and comes from playing before in Italy.
So I think that if you makea little bit, the difference in terms
of the America Cup, which alwaysinternally still has a significant difference and that
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you play more is because you clingto the European teams than even more unknown,
that they are your players have atleast one or two in the most
important leagues in the world and thatthey reach to make the difference. And
I think that there have been ratherlittle teams that have played and have shown
low level in the Euro Cup thatend up remaining outside teams like Croatia.
That already says a lot about thedifferent level being played in the Eurocup.
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I think it' s very muchthere. Yes, I differ with you,
I think it' s a littledifferent to talk about a tournament that
is badly contested like the Euro Cup, and that makes life more difficult for
the big teams that are showing ratherlittle, like Chile and like Peru in
this Copa América that takes for itssecond date. Yes, well, yes
there we differ totally because I believebecause, for example, on this subject
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of the players that you said,a lot is talked about those figures,
but the vast majority of the figuresthat are in the America Cup are the
figures that shine there in Europe,then, in the big clubs that you
were saying and I think that atthe level it is even, is that
they are tournaments that are difficult andperhaps the Eurocopagana in that emotionality with shared
like the one that there was Georgia, Turkey, that are open matches and
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that have had a Peru, zeroChile, zero that on the date one
I am already saying. I've seen games. I think it is
clear that it is a common placewhere one that there are I have seen
matches in this Eurocup that are quitea lot. It is also true that
the volume of matches is almost twicewhat we are going to talk about in
the Copa América, but also anequi a tournament in which four better thirds
pass also the do the tournament.I think I' m going to be
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a petitide They passed the best sixteenand were already eliminated from each other.
But then, who are we forthat? We go for a World Cup
with 48 teams. I think we' re going down a non- brake
curve on that subject, these eighth- finals. If my memory doesn'
t fail, I didn' thave it here See, I' m
looking for it here fast. Theystart these final eighths, if I'
m not bad, the same Saturday, the same Saturday that begins the tour
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of France. Yes, look atthis sado with the duel between Switzerland and
Italy. Colombian hour eleven in themorning and now to close Huguito. We
cannot let it happen that tomorrow Fridayplays his second game, the Colombian team
in the Copa América against Costa Rica. Same hour five in the afternoon also
broadcast the goal Caracol and you willbe able to follow all the content of
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the Colombia selection in the spectator.How I' m going to that first
game. Which we were talking abouta little hard. They are all of
the new difficult complexes and Colombia withHierarchy brought out a result that I had
brought out and I read a previousthat I found quite interesting, which said
Alfaro was the black beast of theColombian selection. Well, well, I
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wasn' t in this house severalworlds and several qualifiers. Commenting match-
to- game what the Colombia teamis. I think there is a man
on the South American football scene whoknows how he can play Colombia, who
knows how to play his figures.He likes the lighthouse and good modesty.
Besides, they have as their defenseleader a guy who knows the local rent
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well, which is Juan Pablo Vargas. It has a new generation that is
never easy to consolidate a process,but that has already been planted with Brazil
that, in theory, even thoughit is downhill it is always one of
the favorites. I think it's not going to be easy, I
think it' s going to bea very closed game, but yes,
I think there' s a littlestep and a margin of difference from which
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Colombia can' t have to takeadvantage. Yes, because we also have
to take advantage of that Brazilian tie. Pa to close his early ranking.
It has to be said this way, that is, Costa Rica is a
difficult team, because alpha to seethe teams, but the numbers of alpha
in Costa Rica so far are notgood. Of course, that is to
say, Colombia comes with that favoritism. But that' s what we talked
about. A difficult tournament, acomplicated tournament and a game that will surely
be, that is, the onethat expects Colombia to flourish tomorrow. I
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don' t think it' sa match. I think it' s
going to be a difficult game,with a very close defense, perhaps similar
to the game with Paraguay or evenmore difficult. Playful with this, we
' re already saying goodbye. Thischapter of sports gallery. It was played
so because we talked about tour ofFrance, Eurocup, Copa America, but
it is the sports current of themoment that we are living and already facing
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what comes, because we are goingon tour of France. Start Wimbledon.
They come after the Olympic Games.Definitively, it had Paralympic Games and the
women' s league continues to bedefined in Colombian football. That is to
say, there are all the spectatorsof this sporting forum. Thank you very
much for being here, Hector andAndrés, Hector Andrés for being there behind
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the scenes and, of course,J Sorio, who was our guest,
to follow the contents of the viewerto whom they are watching this broadcast.
We continue to be connected to asports forum and continue to be connected from
the newspaper to all the current sportingevents in the world. Thank you so
much for being here and until nexttime.
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