America Talks - 2nd A

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:27):
In a world of uniparty politics, Americans are not seeing
the fascism is not bearing to the left or the right,
but a corporate endeavor to control policy for self enrichment
and aggrandizement to non existent issues, to socially condition the
masses for global influence and control. This is today's new
ward order. We the people are not happy with it.

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This is America Talks. Hello everybody, and welcome to America Talks.
Our guests did not join us tonight, but we are
here to talk about two ways Second Amendment rights and

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what it is we need to do to keep them.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
What do you think? Aj how you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I'm doing all right, and among the things that we
need to be doing above all else. I would tell
this to any American right now, stay armed first and foremost.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, there's a lot of things going on with Second Amendment.
There's a lot of cities violating our rights. There's a
lot of states violating our rights. And the federal government
likes to violate our rights. They kind of disregard the
Constitution when they pass legislation. And right now I think
there's probably maybe three bills and proposal to violate the

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Second Amendment.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I haven't looked them up deeply to figure out what's what.
I just kind of do an AI dive on that one.
So and when I got back from May, I was
three of them. But of course they're not going anywhere
because Republicans hold the House and the Senate. And as
long as they do. As long as they do, we
got good chance that stuff like this isn't going to
be pushed upon us. But Democrats themselves, when they are

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in power, they don't mind violating your constitutional rights. In fact,
they willfully do so on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
But cities do too. You know, there's a I don't
know if anybody knows it or not, but if you
want to look up Scotis rulings, what is this Congressional
Library right constitution of dot Congress, dot gov resources, unconstitutional
laws and agains. Supreme Court cases like say, this one

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here is in twenty twenty one, and this is a
First Amendment violation under free exercise clause. And that was
a case main provision requiring schools participating intuition since program
to be non sectarian. You know, they don't want religion
or anything involved with public money, I guess, and well

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that was overruled. But there are many gun rights violations,
Second A rights violations in here. If I scrolled down
here far enough, I'll find them. And I've even seen
Fifth Amendment involving guns when it comes to Title eighteen,
and here regarding violations to rights when it comes to
processes and stuff. A lot of First Amendment violations as well,

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you know, in first moments just as important. I think
it was George Washington me have said something about Second
Amendment comes second to the first midment because a second
A moment is second in importance because they are the
nation's liberties teeth. Something to that effect. I'm not sure
if it's a true and actual quote quote or kind
of like just paraphrasing, but it was a good point,

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because you know, we need our Second A as a
matter of defense for personal defense, personal protection, and defense
of our nation when it comes down to it, defense
of our US Constitution when erroneously vitalated when we come
into situations where authority acts under color of law.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Let's go ahead and point out some of the obvious too.
The First Amendment is there because that is your maining
these that you go to and you've got a problem
with what's happening. You got your freedom of speech, you
got your freedom of religion, you've got your freedom of
the press, you got the freedom to assemble, and you
have the freedom to petition. After you use those, well,

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the default method after that is the Second Amendment. And
a whole lot of people don't know this or weren't
told this in school, but when they were approving the
Bill of Rights, there was actually a dispute in Congress
about whether the First Amendment or the Second minute, which
one should go first.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, that's a good point. I think they chose first
Amendment first if you're going to put it in importance,
because it's a matter of order, right. Our forefathers were
actually could be pretty kind regarding the king. So as
much as the king violated rights as much as well,
I don't know if they had rights back then. They were,

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you know, they recognized their rights as natural citizens under
natural law, but the king disregarded that, and there were
no laws to protect that. That's we have this great
document called the United States Constitution. So but they they
never raised arms. You know, they did some stuff. They
were aggressors sometimes like Samuel Adams and the son's celebrities

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were aggressors to the point that even burned down the
governor's mansion as well as their tea into the bay
and all other sorts of great things they like to do.
But they didn't take arms against their own countrymen. They
didn't take arms against their their mother country. They didn't
take arms against the king. It was the king who
brought arms against them. And that's when the Revolutionary War

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broke out. Even for that first year, they were still
trying to make some sort of grievances with the king
to get this uh uh settled without uh.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Secessions, and they tried to settle it without violence. As
fortunately as we see what wound up happening. Well, the
first the shot heard around the world, at least in
the Concord, and then we had to fight.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, so uh yeah, it was the king that brought
the brought the and they've they've had other skirmishes, right, yeah,
the Boston medscorts, stuff like that. But it was the
king that kept bringing the violence to the colonists. There
wasn't the other way around. The colonists weren't resorting to
violence and not as conservative as we tend to feel
the same way. We're trying to avoid violence at all costs.

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So they saw first Amendment priority, Use your first amendment first,
exercise your first and that's what we're doing here tonight.
We're exercising our first amendment. And at some point in
time we'll bring up some redresses with our Congress about
these constitutional violations, you know, and there are many. And
the problem with it is, ladies and gentlemen, is it

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always comes down to them disregarding the US Constitution and
the leaving you up to us to defend the US
Constitution with the Supreme Court of the United States. And
that's not right. They should always be defended first in Congress.
Congress should always be the ones error on the side
of caution, make sure that they're preserving our constitution rights.

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They should never we should never have any elected official
willing to violate our constitutional rights. Well, yet they do.
And the same goes within your states too, because let
me go.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Ahead and point it out now, as you just mentioned
that the worst of it happens in the states right now.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
The last place you want to own a gun in
right now.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Is California because you're gonna hit nothing but red tape
everywhere you go. And that's the real issue that it
boils down to. Yes, we have issues with the federal government.
Yes there's be an issue in the courts, but it's
always starting for some reason with the states where obviously
you've got the left that's in charge. California is that way,

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New York is that way. Colorado has been going that
way in recent years. We would not be honest right
now if we didn't point that out.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, no, you're right right, I'm right here. I'm looking
at one here listed McDonald vers City of Chicago. This
uh went to two thousand and nine. This occurred and
Chicago third Municipal Code s eight to zero zero four
zero a two thousand and nine oak Park Village in

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oak Park, Illinois Village Code twenty seven to one. So
Chicago and Village of oak Park prohibiting possession of most handguns.
And of course the Supreme Court overruled that it doesn't
say exactly what constitutional clauses, but it's it does a
Second Amendment as far as provision goes. Yeah, what they're

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saying is that it violates the Second Amendment, and so
the Secondment applies all the way down man. Because of
the Fourteenth Amendment, everything in the US Constitution applies to
the states as well. It applies to the cities as well.
But the cities have no problem with violating your rights.
And you can see that they're in this list of

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things with the Chicago area or Chicago itself, and so
they try to violate people's rights, and somebody had the
decency to take to the court. But this is the
things that overwhelmed the court. Here's another one, just a
crimbla verse.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
That was in two thousand and seven. This is a
very famous case.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Let me go ahead and point that out, the Tailor case.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Justice Scalaa wrote the majority opinion in that and overall
very good decision until he added one little tidbit in there.
He said essentially that the Second Amendment, everything's okay, but
there was a room for what he called reasonable restrictions.
And that has opened up a mess since then in

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regard to certain laws that they've been trying to say
is constitutionally sound, but of course it says it goes
to the Supreme Court. Thankfully they start to see the
negatives in that to some degree.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Is it always that way?

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Not really, but thankfully we've got to get enough Supreme
Court that sees through the crap on that. Speaking of
which I don't know if you've seen, but we've actually
got an interesting second Moenment case.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Coming up this term.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
It has to do with concealed carry, and it's based
out of Hawaii, And essentially what they're going to be
asking is, if you go on to private property, do
you still have the right if you have a carry permit,
to still carry on that ground. That is the bit
of a slippery slope, and I can see where the
court would have issues with it, because then you're talking

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about private property rights versus the individual's two way rights.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Well, what you're talking about here is your constitutional rights
were meant to protect you from erroneous actions or violations
of the government, the governing bodies. Whereas if I own
a home and I say, hey, leave your guns outside.
If I'm going to be a cheesy little leftist and
I'm scared of guns because oh my god, they might
accidentally grow feet and start shooting people randomly, you know

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I got a right to do that in my own home.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
You can't tell me my private property can't do that,
as much as you can't tell a store owner on
their private property if you can or cannot carry arms.
So I think people most likely conceal and pretty much
give them the finger on it, and that's fine by me,
but it's probably not right if they own the property
and that's their wishes. But I do like that sign
somebody put in their front yard says I think twice

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about robbing this home because I keep firearms, but I
respect my neighbor to the left of me who does not.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
And I love the no trespassing sign that was actually
at my grandmother's for years and it says on there
no trespassing by letters will be shot, survivors will be
shot again.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah right, So yeah, well, you know you bring that
up though it is humorous and it establishes a point
by that's one of the things you got to take
in consideration about gun ownership, isn't it. How do you
use force? Because you were talking about using deadly forces.
Somebody comes to slap you in the face, do you
shoot them dead? And the answer to that is no,

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because they're not using deadly force, they're just using violence.
So but then again, maybe some states with castle doctrines,
you can get away with defending yourself with the firearm.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yeah, I believe it actually says in Kentucky now our
castle doctrine that if somebody comes on your property and
you have reason to be in fear of your life,
that you do have the right to discharge your weapon
and neutralize that threat a soon as it enters your yard.
I could be wrong about that. I'd have to double
check it, but that is currently Kentucky's castle doctrine from
what I understand. Also, let's talk about what really kicked

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this conversation in the gear. We were discussing mass shootings,
and that right there is a whole other slope on itself,
because not only we're talking about the second minute itself,
we're talking about what causes that problem, which is gone
for his zones.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, that is an issue. If they're going to restrict
your ability to keep your firearms and you lack the fence.
If you like to fence, you become a sitting duck.
And that I tell you what. Man, that kid in Indiana,
I thought that was great for him. It was great
for all of us that he reacted like he did.

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But here here again is a case where a mall
with him was in Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
I think.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Had a sign up no carrying of firearms and stuff
like that. With this get carried it anyway, and lo
and behold, somebody comes out of arrestum it starts targeting
people and shooting people. He pulls his firearmor sheets back,
and ironically, when this perpetrator of the such a crime
was being fired upon, he cowered and tried to run away.
Imagine that somebody trying to shoot people dead in the

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mall being shot back at. He decided that he needed
to run for his own life, got a taste of
his own medicine. I think he lost his life in
the process, justifiably so. And but that proved that goes
through directly to your point that if you're willing to carry,
and you're willing to defend yourselves and others around you,

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that it puts an end to a lot of his violence.
And I mean that that is like the number one
solution is it not to these gun violences carry and
be willing to use, because once you become a threat
to them, then they don't see you as a victim anymore.
And in truth, you're only a victim of your choosing.
And if you choose not to defend yourself. Then you're

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allowing yourself.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
To a victim, right And you know, I got to
point it out.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
The day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated, there was also
the most publicized mass shootings there are here in America today,
school shootings. Three people were killed at a shooting in
Colorado at a school, and you.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Know that right there.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I have issues with gun free zones as is for
those who don't know public schools, those are federally mandated
gun free zones. And here's where the irritation is, what
are you gonna do in a situation where nobody's allowed
to carry it? Well, somebody who is dedicated to causing
mass mayum is going to come in there, and it

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can either be a gun, they could run.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Through a wall with a car.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
They're gonna do anything they can to cause mass mayheim
And we are literally setting those places up to be
attacked like that, and that's unfortunate. And I am a
big advocate for anybody who has known me over the years,
I'm a big advocate for arming teachers that right there
on a freewheel basis, if you arem enough teachers. Yeah,

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let's just say I would think twice if I saw
sign outside and said, half of our teachers are carrying
block forty five pistols.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Guess which ones.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
So as of today, in twenty twenty five, there have
been three hundred and ninety two US mass shootings. Since
January first, twenty thirteen, there have been sixy nine hundred
and twenty four. There has been one day since the
last mass shootings. So there was one yesterday in Nashville, Tennessee,
in which four people were injured and gunman is unknown.

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Also yesterday there was another one in Fort Worth, Texas
where five people were injured gunman unknown. Alabama. The previous
day on the fourth, which was Saturday, one person dead,
four people injured, gunman unknown. That was mobile. And also
on Saturday Montgomery, Alabama, two people dead, twelve people injured,

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juvenile victims least one child among the wounded. Gouvernment unknown.
So this is just like a growing trend, is it not.
I mean, it's almost as if these people are copycat offenders.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
I mean, it really is at this point.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
And just like after the Sandy Hook tragedy that right there,
twenty seven people getting killed in the school shooting was
bad enough. Then in the days afterwards, we saw copycat
shooting up everywhere because again no reprotection to stop these
people from causing trouble.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, there was four of them on Saturday, one in Michigan,
another one in Texas. Oh, and the third nothing happened. Well,
imagine that a day off from it. So we have
a lot of it going on in this country. And
to me, the best defense is because honestly, giving up
rights is not an option.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Nope, not for me, not for you.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's within our US constant tution, uh. Is there for
a reason, and it's primary reason it's defense, and that
means your personal defense. We've had Supreme Court rulings where
these laws requiring people to box their guns under lock
and key, and you can't keep them loaded and stuff
like that, and I think that again was schoolly. I'm
not sure had rules on that one regarding that that

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violates the US Constitution or Amendment because you are you're
you're right to keeping bare arms is for protection and defense,
and if you have been under lock and key, it's
not ready ready to readily available for your defense. Therefore
it violates the Second Amendment, which I thought was a
great ruling.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Uh, which I need to go ahead and point out
I believe that was also in the Heiler case as well.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
If not, it was a different case.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
But with the Hailer case, think it was bruin, wasn't
it Okay? Yeah, with the Heiler case, going back to
it for a second, when that decision was made, it
only came through with five justices supporting it, and that
was Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Kennedy, and Scalia. Those were the

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only five. Had any of them switch, with Kennedy and
Roberts both known for being miters. Thankfully they didn't swap.
If they had swapped over our two A rights would
probably gone right now. Thankfully we have a strong enough
Supreme Court since then that sees the reason why we
had the Second Amendment in the first place, and they're
not using judicial activism to try to hinder that. But

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the two way community right now, let's just say it
about right. Because of the mainstream media, because of politicians
trying to strike up fear, we are looked at as
second class citizens in a lot of ways, and that's sad.
There was a time when this country loved, loved firearms ownership.

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In fact, it was said in Japan that the reason
why they never made a the main land invasion of
the United States was because they would find a rifle
behind every blade of grass. And now look where we're
at now, where we have masshootings left and right because
of gun free zones.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
They say. Hitler have made a similar claim.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
They recognized that our willingness to defend ourselves at home
was too large for their military to conquer all. Honestly,
I mean it worked. I mean think about it. Oh,
you said the shot heard around the world. You realize
that went further, right, That wasn't just one shot and
a little scrimmish. Rate there on a bridge and conquered Reluctionton, Massachusetts.

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That people were being warned that the British were there, right, Paul,
Paul Revere wasn't the only rider. So they were coming
out with their muskets. So the British literally got their
asses kicked all the way back to the port. They
were done, man, they were chased all the way down.
This was like they were just some little scrimmish happened
in the British like will walk away. No, there were

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men coming out of their homes and firing upon these soldiers.
They were chasing them out, they were done with in them.
They were letting them know, this ain't gonna happen here anymore.
Men had backbone back in the day, Men stood up
for something back in the day.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Oh lord, And that would start the conversation about the
d masculinization.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Of American men. Woo. And that.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
That right there is a whole conversation on its own.
And you know, but back to the two A community
for a second, where we're seeing our greatest issues right
now with the two A community itself. Obviously gun free zones,
which isn't just the public school system K through twelve.
On college campuses where they are historically known for being
left institutions. It is rare that you find a college

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campus where you were allowed to keep a firearm in
your vehicle, on which in reality they should just let
you be carrying anyway, because hey, number one, you're right,
numberwo you're protect yourself in case something happens. But then
along with that, we are also seeing in different states.
You know, I just brought it up earlier. We've got
multiple blue states right now that are hindering the rights

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of their citizens, all in the name.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
They claim it's public safety. It's not public safety.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
What they're doing is taking your rights away so they
can shove whatever they want to try to get none
down your throat is what it boils down to.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, they want to disarm you so that you don't
have that defense anymore. I mean, a government that wants
to take away your arms and your sense of defense
says a lot about their intentions, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Oh, yes it does, And you know, I might as
well mention it right now.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
You know, the greatest sub issues that we're seeing right
now with you know, at the federal government right now,
when it comes to ay, of course, I might as
well go ahead and start with the National Firearms Act,
because that's probably our most prominent.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Piece of legislation.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
That is the legislation of course, that requires that if
we are own shortborrow rifles, short burrel shotguns, multiple.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Types of explosive devices, and hint.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Hint, machine guns, if we have, if we want to
own anything like that, they had to be registered with
the federal government. And historically registration is the first step
to confiscation. That law is almost one hundred years old.
It's pass them thirty four. Well, we're in twenty twenty
five now, and that right there is what started the

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issues with government decided and go against TA.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
We've got that. Then. Of course the.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Explain this one to be the sixty eight Gun Control Act,
which managed where you couldn't go in you couldn't go
into a store and buy anything without a cereal number
out because that's when they started serializing the guns. And
then you also couldn't order them by mail anymore, which
is how supposedly which we all know that the story
has been changed since then. That's how Lee Harvey Osweald

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got his rifle before he was planning supposedly planning to
assassinate President Kennedy. They just use that as an excuse
to take away all right, own it to order a
firearm that way, that's all they did with that. But
then after that, probably the most prominent pieces since then
have been the Gun for His Zones Act, the Huge Amendment,
and as we mentioned, the Hughson Moment, because next year

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it's going to turn forty. That is the law that
says that any machine gun made after May of nineteen
eighty six, a United States civilian.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Can't own it.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, there's laws at the federal level, they don't get
as much attention as they should. Most of the attention
is in the States because that's where they love to
try to hit our rights at the most and it's
their easiest way to do it. But and I've been
a proponent of this for a long time for American citizens,
and when it comes to the Second Amendment, right last

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time I checked the United States constitutions, specifically, anything at
the federal level that supersedes anything at the state level,
doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yes? Does it does apply?

Speaker 3 (25:03):
So yeah, the question now is this, why are we
letting states go ahead and put through laws statutes that
are unconstitutional. That's always been my issue with it. In fact,
I would go along and say this already. And I
know this is going to be a controversial opinion to
have because I know how much us on the conservative

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side love to say that we're all for states rights
and states overall making their own decisions. But I'm just
going to tell you all right now, from the opinion
of as an American citizen, I believe that state gun
laws are unconstitutional.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
That's just me.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
There are others that would probably disagree with that because
they believe that the states should have their own rights
in place according to their constitution. Second Amendment superseds.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
All that.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
As it should m h as, I can't understand why
states don't have a similar clause or amendment and their
state constitution.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
States.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, there are states that have their own provision as
it concerns firearms rights. California, I know, is one of
them that doesn't have that. So that's usually why they
can get away do them just about everything they want
until it hits the Supreme Court or the federal courts
for that matter. And then Kentucky, it's a little weird
here in the Bluegrass State. The way it's written, we

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have two A rights, but at the discretion of the
General Assembly, they can make certain decisions regarding our rights. Thankfully,
here in Kentucky we have probably the strongest two A
rights overall for the most part, because we've got constitutional carry.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
We're allowed to carry our firearms and.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Vehicles in any compartment that is factory affixed to the vehicle,
which obviously we should be just able to carry wherever
we please on a vehicle. I mean, let's just go
ahead and say that. And overall, I can't like complain
about Kentucky's lost too much. I do wish we would
stop adhering to the NFA and just say outright than anything,

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any law going all the way back to the Constitution
being adopted is unconstitutional in that regard. There's been debates
on down that I wish that debate would end.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I know New Hampshire passed amendments in nineteen eighty one,
I believe, giving you the right to keep the bear
arms and oh they also it was like an am
B section and B was the right to defense, so
they covered both, you know what I mean. Even though
it says that right to bear arms and obviously that's

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for defense, they went ahead and described, you know, your
right to defense. That's a protective person, your family, your property.
And I believe it may have actually mentioned like say
neighbors and friends and things like that, so you know,
it's it was pretty cool that they amended it finally
in eighty one. I love the State of New Hampshire
because they're they're mindful that way when Sunni was governor,

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and I believe it still applies is we will support
no laws or enforce no laws of the federal government
that we deem to violate the Constitution when it comes
to the right to keeping bare arms. So that doesn't
mean the federal government can't come into the state and
do something. What that means is they're not going to

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offer the police force to back them up.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, anybody who believes that the Second Amendment and sanctuary
acts or ordinances that are coming out right now don't have.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Any facts they do. They won't.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
People try to say that they don't in reality they do.
Basically what that says is local law enforcement or if
it's not at the state level, state law enforcement won't
enforce anything on the federal books. In that regard, the
Feds have to come in and do it theirselves.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
And even then, well, we.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Can put laws on the books that say if the
Feds come in here trying to enforce none constitutional real, well,
they're gonna suffer state consequences.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
You know that's actually under color of law, isn't it.
And I know that's kind of hard. We can say
that easily on a show like this, and but proving
it's a different thing. It's sort of like proving these
laws are unconstitutional. But how do you feel about constitutional sheriffs?
You know, Sheriff Max started this program of constitutional sheriffs.
I think it's a great program, but I'm not sure

(29:27):
if it's well orchestrated to organize within communities.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Eh. Well, that goes along several lines. There are several
things when it comes to, you know, liberty based or
constitutional based programs. Some things are well organized and you
can actually have a great effect with them. The unfortunate
thing about it is though some things are just not
well organized enough to have any effect. I've seen it

(29:53):
happened several times on my end in that regard, and
it boils down to you just have to be a
well organized person to have an entity like that wherever
you're at. And you know, I will give credit back
in twenty twelve, when they were discussing doing an assault
weapons ban following Sandy Hook, we had multiple sheriffs across

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this country who said if they passed that bill, they
weren't enforcing it, so which is something the federal government
hasn't realized yet, or if they have realized that, they
don't care, which is if you are going to try
to enforce something like that, you have to depend on
local law enforcement to do it well. If they are
going to enforce it, you pretty much have a law

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that has zero effect.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
That's pretty much it. But why can't they deputize people?
Why can't they set it up, you know, with a
legal system so that you have lawyers on staff and
that way, when you say, hey, this is unconstitutional or
this is you have a defense system all set up.
And even if you don't use the defensive and you

(31:02):
have in fact a form of intimidation back. Uh, you know,
I mean, when they're gonna use force and violate your rights,
you need to have some sort of force beats force, right,
so you need to be able to be forceful in return.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Which thankfully, we do have those gun rights groups out
there that do that kind of thing. I forget which
organization is off the top of my head, but there
is one that pretty much cranks up the law the
lawsuit machine anytime there's something brought up that is unconstitutional. Unfortunately,
the way that that works, somebody would have to get

(31:35):
arrested before they try to fight the lawsuit. That's unfortunately
the way that that operates. That being said, you know,
every major gun rights organization in this country has, you know,
some sort of way that they fight for our rights.
I know that you know, there's goa there's that other
organization that does cranks out the lawsuit machine begin all right, now.

(31:58):
I know there's been a whole lot of contract with
the NRA over the last ten years, and that's mainly
due to the fact that you know, their board members
were breaking in funds that they shouldn't have been raking in.
And on top of that, you know, we're seeing other
issues with them as well, where they only endorse incoming

(32:19):
candidates whenever they want to try to support a two
way candidate, and among those things as well. The main
way that the NRA tries to fight for our rights,
they basically butter after the politicians is what they do.
Like they'll pay for a vacation, they'll treat them to dinner,
they'll do whatever.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
They basically try to butter them up, is what they do.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, those sorts of lobby efforts. I'm not fond of
the strategies just to working in our favor. Great, but
we see corporations and other organizations doing the same thing
that would be in opposition of what it is we want.
So I guess it's too butters up the most right,
Uh huh. There are other gun rights organizations out there.

(33:09):
I can't remember. Jeez, we interviewed somebody on a common
sense about I can think of. Is American Gun Owner Association.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Might have been. Now we'll say this thing.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
This is my face of advice for everybody when it
comes to gun rights organizations. Thomas Massey here in Kentucky
has had this dance for a long time as the
one I support as well. If you want to change
how they do things, well, you can't do that unless
you do one thing. Join them, join all of them,
if you can afford to join as many as possible,
join them. If you want to go ahead and change

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the way that they do things, well, probably enough people
together and you can change the way they do things
and fight for our rights as you believe that they
can be done. But of course you have back enough
people and have a rallying cry ready for that.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, I believe it is UH American Gun Owners Association.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Let's sene know's may be wrong. This is a this
is a PIRO and stuff. So unless they do both.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I thought that was them. Oh yeah, okay, hang on
that shop, Oh Gun Owners of America.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yes, g o A.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
That's what I'm trying to think. Of Gun Owners of America. Yeah,
that's another NRA type of organization. A lot of people
favor them over NRA. A lot of people lost faith
in NRA. To be honest about it, they.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Did for obvious reasons. But and it is unfortunate right now.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
I don't know if anybody been paying attention, but right
now the NRA is on the cusp that it could
dissolve whether or not you agree with their methods or not.
Seeing one of those organizations, especially the most prominent one, fall,
it's not exactly a positive sign. I'm all for taking

(35:19):
over the organization and changing the way they do business,
but seeing them fall, that's just that leaves a bad
taste in my mouth.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
To be honest with you, well, it depends. I mean,
were they once a really good organization that did a
lot of good service for the people of the United States,
their constituents, if you will, And now they've kind of,
you became a cash cow.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
To so extent they did become a cash cow, and
you know, drawing back on it, the NRA has I
guess the way I can put it is that they
have played chicken with our rights over the years. Basically,
they'll fight for the core, but they'll they're willing to
compromise on some things just to make sure that they've

(36:09):
got at least some sort of win out of it. Now, again,
I don't like that. I think we need to change
the way that those organizations are run. But yeah, and
unfortunately that Cashkew got discovered and they are on the
cusp of falling right now because of that.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
That's uh yeah, it's a sign of weakness. And but
it goes to show in truth where we're we're losing
ground with the left. I mean, if we're gonna talk
about preserving gun rights, we have to really think about
how the left organize this. We've got activist judges now,
and the left basically trains people, you know. They they

(36:46):
organized with five and one C three organizations. They they're
basically create these things. And they the Democrat National conc
Party used to in their in the website, used to
be able to find but they hit it now because
I think too many of us discovered it. And but
they'll tell you that they'll they'll train you for five

(37:07):
oh one CE organization. They also show you how to
get the funding to fund yourself. And we discovered here
with Elon Musk and company that things like us say
they're bleeding ustry and give them money to these five
and one see three organizations that were for the left.
And so they're embedding people into positions in government, and

(37:30):
that's what they do. So they appoint people that are
really leftist activists into positions in government. So when things
are coming through, they hide things, concealed things, bills won't
go through, you know how it works. Activist judges and
so on and so forth. They've organized this so there's
so many people embedded into different parts of government. This

(37:50):
is a challenge Trump was facing going into government. He's
trying to get rid of these people where they're no
longer government employees under his administration because he recognized this
is what's going on, and this is why we're being
we're being defeated from the inside. We're being infiltrated. Well,
people are supposed to be neutral.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
And they're not.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
And this is why we're losing gun rights. This is
why we're losing our rights to free speech. This is
why SCOTUS is overwhelmed with court case after court case
of freedom of speech, free speech, and gun rights, is
because these legislators who just passed a law as they
no violate rights. They're just trying to overwhelm the court
or get him in front of activist judges in district
courts that will shoot down any kind of oppositions.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Uh huh. And you know, I got to point it out.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
So everybody just thinks that it's just the Democrats don't
want to say all rights right away, It ain't. I
gotta point that out because you know, we go back
all the way to the huge amendment well that passed
during the Reagan administration. Reagan a overall the bill that
that was attached to, which was the Farm Arms Owners
Protection Act.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Overall, that was a good bill.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Then Senator Hughes I believe from New Jersey tacked on
that amendment at the last minute and it made it through. Well,
is Reagan gonna beato a bill that's as strong as
it is for two way just because it has that
in it? Now he went ahead and signed it. We've
had executive orders come down from different presidents on both
sides of the aisle that have banned certain firearms from

(39:15):
coming into this country. And then the icing on the
cake this and again, as much as we admire President
Trump over here on on the liberty side, Well, the
bump stock band happened under Trump, it happened through his
ATF that did that. Now, thankfully scottus eventually he decided

(39:36):
on that and said that that band was unconstitutional.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
But you know, we have to point that out.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I mean, but here again, though, AJ goes back to
what I said about embedding people that are leftist activists
in government, so they're doing things on a regular trail level.
I mean, how much can have you seen the Federal
Register if you tried to follow it. I forget how
many hundreds of documents are submitted daily. Nobody can up
with this nonsense.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
This is you know, this is what the issues that
we run into when big government takes over. You can't
keep up with anything hardly. And you know, going back
to the judges for a second, I know, you know
you mentioned.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
That as well.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
When it comes to the federal judges right now, there's
only one way to get rid of them, well three ways.
Number one they have to die, Number two they have
to retire, or three, which has to our history, never
happened yet, although it's part of our law. They would
have to be impeached and removed at the federal level. Essentially,
they'd go through the same process the President of the
United States would have to go through in order to

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be removed.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
And you know that's the way that you.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Know, the Constitution in current legislation is written to do that.
And you know, we had to point those things out.
The reason why these judges are acting like the activists
they are right now is because they really don't have
anything to stop them other than higher courts saying, hey,
you made the wrong move.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
So these same judges will try to impede upon the
actions of the president, who's the executive of law. And
that's what Trump is trying to do, is enforce law.
And at the same time you got these active judges
ruling against him and saying you must sea some desist.
I'm thinking to myself, the law reads very clearly, Like
say the national guard issue, where was this? Was it

(41:23):
in Calerad, No, Oregon? Yeah, judge blocked them from putting
a National Guard in Oregon somewhere most likely Portland. Yeah,
because there's been a lot going on with the whole,
I think and stuff like that. You know, the whole
I think the folks with the Chaz or whatever are
back to their nonsense. I'm not sure entirely what's going

(41:45):
on there, but he wants to bring order back there.
And there is a law. It's Title ten, section two
fifty three of the US Title Codes, and it states.
It starts out with the President may use the militia,
the armed forces, or both, or by any other means necessary,
and then goes on to say for insurrection, rebellion, or

(42:06):
h illegal actions, and states where the state can't or
will not, or they refuse to enforce their own laws,
the President may enact the National Guard or the armed forces,
or by anyone that means necessary. So that's a pretty
broad that's a pretty broad bill for just a few

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chapters or a few paragraphs.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
It's a very broad section of the constitution there.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
To pay attention to you and well, no, that's that's
a piece of legislation. But the point is it's a
federal law, and judges are telling them he can't do it.
They're literally telling him he can't do it when the
federal law is right there. So my thoughts are, you know,
if the federal law is right there and the president
acts on it regardless of what the judge says, what
are they going to do to him, So he might

(42:53):
be impeached, but not under this uh, not under this
current congress. So what happens when this Congress is over, Well,
the next Congress comes and we remain remaintain public Republican.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
And I had to point this out right now.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
If Trump decided to go against what a federal judge
tells him, he would not be the first to do it.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
So well, not just Biden.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Let's go back in the history a second Andrew Jackson
after the Indian Removal Act was passed. Well, Chief Justice
Marshall and the Court said that the cherokey did not
have to move. Well, what did Jackson do? He had
everybody round it up at gunpoint, forced them to move.
The property was seized. That's how he did it. And
then when Lincoln was accused of violating habeas corpus, the

(43:48):
Chief Justice of the United States at the time, Roger Tune, who's,
in my opinion, the worst justice this country has ever had.
He was the author of the dread and Scott decision.
He said that, you know, the president can't do what
he's doing right now because of violets Taby's corpus. Well,
what did Lincoln do he just ignored it. Yeah, so yeah,
if Trump decided to ignore what the federal judges are

(44:08):
doing right now, nobody would really stopping it. Wouldn't be
the first time that we've had a president ignore a
court ruling.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
And you know, so, yeah, all they can do. All
they can do is set out to impeach them for it.
That's the worst they can do. And right now, this
Congress won't do it now. But we need and this
is where people need to think about when they're voting
here this next election cycle, is do we keep Republican
seats in the House, in the Senate as long as
we remain Republican control, then the president could rightfully just

(44:39):
thumb his nose to these judges and say, nope, I'm
all set. I don't face impeachment. There won't be an
impeachment because time when this is all done and said,
I'm saying out to yeo's tata bye bye, I'm all done.
So what are you gonna do and peach me after
the fact?

Speaker 3 (44:55):
You know, Land's pointed out right now, after the Charlie
carcassas and they after the way that things have been
all this year, I'm saying it. I've got a majority
of people around me sitting. In fact, Greg me and
him have discussed it as well. Effectively, Democrat Party for
all intents and purposes, unless they have some sort of

(45:16):
renaissance or miracle happened within their group within the next
ten years, they're not going to exist anymore.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
They only have a fraction of the money.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
That the RNC has right now, and they're losing seats left, right,
front and center. I'm not going to be surprised with
next year's midterms if we do actually have that red
wave that they were trying to score in twenty twenty two,
because right now, registration numbers for the GOP right now
are skyrocketing to the point that New Jersey may be

(45:46):
a swing state by twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
That's not impossibility because the lefts keeps shooting themselves in
the foot so badly, and they have been for a
long time, you know, because I don't know if you've
heard it, but I remember god decades ago, there was
a term to divot among black communities. You've got to
get off the plantation. And what they're saying is leave
the Democrat Party their us and the right. The Democrats
have done nothing but use their their situations for their

(46:12):
own favor. They did nothing for black Americans. They never
stood for black Americans. The Democrat Party was known to
stand up for the working class. The Democrat Party always
backed unions. When's the last time they backed the union?
Biden shut the union down, He broke up the strike
uh in favor of the railroads.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Mm.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
They don't even they don't even stand up for the
things they used to stand up for anymore. They like
they accused the right of being corporate shills, being supporting
corporations over people, and favoring corporations for it, which is
true for the most part they do. But the Democrats
do the same thing, but pointing an accusing finger to
the right.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
And yet what happened at the Republican National Convention last
year you saw the head of the Tainsters for the
first time, Brian Yeah, on the.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
GOP convention stage.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
So that right there should be a sign the working class,
what used to be the working class section, is now
leaving the Democrat Party and they're now joining the brighter side,
which actually does care about small business, which actually does
care that they have, you know, money to feed their families.
They are the ones right now that are standing up

(47:24):
for your rights and they're finally waking up to that.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Now, do we have stingers on the party? Obviously, you know,
we have to face that fact.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
They like, you know, they like the Antipha likes to
point the right and say you're the fascist right. It's
kind of funny because wasn't Obamacare fascism?

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Was it? That?

Speaker 1 (47:43):
What is creed Obamacare?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Of? It pains me to say it. It pains me
to say it's so bad.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
But do you recall what Jonathan grib who was pretty
much the for all in tens and purposes, He is
the sole architect of Obamacare. Do you recall what he
said about the voting American public?

Speaker 1 (48:05):
I do not at this moment.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
On record, he said that the.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Voting American public the reason why Bombacare passes because the
voting American public are idiots, is what he said.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah, and when I hate.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
When they are not properly informed. We're saying it everywhere,
especially in blue states.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
That's exactly what happens.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Do you know how much money we take, the billions
of dollars that we spend every year to subsidize Obamacare.
It doesn't do as it was described. It wasn't as
it was supposed to do at all. Remember Obama, he
was the first one to declare that the gun violence
in the United States is a mental health crisis. He
was the one pushing Obamacare and said that that is

(48:47):
a health crisis, a mental health issue, and he's the
one that said we need Obamacare to fix it. And
the least they did was for mental health care. They
did not care about mental health.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
And let me say it right now, there is no
such thing as gun violence, only people violence. A gun's
not just gonna A gun's not gonna stand itself up
and shoot you in the face just to try to
prove a point. You have to have that human interaction
for that tool, which at the end of the day,
that's pretty much what a firearm is. It is a

(49:18):
tool to be used in a deadly fashion. And you know,
going along with that, you know this needs to be
said as well. We do have a mental health crisis
here in the United States right now. You can look
at the multiple mashootings that we've had along with other
crises that prove that.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
And the suicide rate is high right now because of
that problem.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yes, we have that, but at the end of the day,
You're not gonna see me stand by and say that
just because somebody has a mental health crisis, it could
be a lot for a PTSD, or they show no
symptoms at all, but you're gonna try to tell that
person they don't have the right to own a gun. Now,
what I'm gonna be all for at the end of
the day is if somebody has a issue with mental

(50:01):
health that makes them a danger to themselves and the others,
put them through due process first before we even think
about taking their rights away.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
And even then I had my issues with doing it,
but you got to do it.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
I mean, dude, this guy didn't even use a gun
on the subway and killed that young lady Carolina. Oh yeah,
and what did they do now? They run them off
to a hospital after he's been arrested and released and
all these other things. Now he killed somebody, and then
the judge as well, we have to get him evaluated
for mental health to make sure he can stand trial,

(50:35):
and so he runs him off to a hospital. So
what's going to become of this guy. He's going to
be released out in the streets now or are they
actually going to put him back in a jail. I mean,
these these judges are just they're unruly anymore.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
I mean, here's the reality. Yes, we need to do
something about the mental health crisis. Yes we need to
address you know, shootings that occur. But the best way
to address shootings that a car put more firearms or
let people who are low burn sizens have free will
access to those firearms.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
More. That's the real problem right there.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
People are having their rights handered by a government that
is wanting to take them away so they can show
whatever they want to down our throats. And that's playing wrong,
say the least.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Yeah, the thing of it is is I remember I
heard a story when I was a kid about a
guy who got a flat tire and while he was
changing his tire, he had all his lug nuts in
the hub cap and he kicked the hubcap and all
his lugnuts flew out into the storm drain. And he's like,

(51:42):
oh crap, now what do I do? And here's a
voice behind him on the other side of a fence,
and he turns around. It's a silent for the mentally insane,
and the guy says, well, if I were you, I'd
take a lugnut off each other tire and that'll give
you three of the five you need and you can
limp into a gas station get it fixed like you
need to to get you know, your lugnuts replaced. And

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the guy looks over at the sign and he looks
at the guy and says, hey, you're pretty smart. What
are you doing there? And the response was, listen, I
may be crazy, but I'm not stupid. So the point is,
people know when they're having healthy mental health crisis. People
know if they have schizophrenia, something's wrong and they have
an obligation to seek help. And instead of sitting on

(52:26):
a train somewhere stabbing some poor innocent girl.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
And I'm gonna say it right now, there's no shame
if you need to to go to therapy, if you're
going through a mental health crisis of some sort, it
does not make you a weak person whatsoever. If you
have a feeling that you are having a meddal health
crisis whatsoever that needs to be addressed, don't be afraid
to have it addressed.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
You're not a weak one.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
In fact, you're actually a stronger person because hey, you're
willing to admit you have it, and you're willing to
seek out for it.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
I mean, the guy's yelling, the screaming, I got I
killed the white girl. I killed the white girl.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
What the what was he telling?

Speaker 1 (53:01):
It turns out they were their claiming he's a schizophrenic.
Well why is he not getting treatment? And we got
programs for these things. That's the thing that states have programs,
cities have programs, and the federal government as puts money
for these things. And it's supposed to be part of Obamacare.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yeah, let's point out the obvience right now.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Federal government isn't even operating right now because they can't
agree on how to run our government properly, because we
don't have enough Democrats that can pull their head out
of their butt enough to realize, hey, we're not gonna
be able to fund this stuff because the other side
that is in the majority right now won't to prove it.
Right now, our governments being held hostage right now because
Chuck Schumer, being the more on that he is, is

(53:42):
trying to address his base more in New York because
he knows that the likelihood is next year he's gonna
face the primary opponent and he's gonna lose.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Oh I hope he gets primary.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Oh, I hope he gets primary too. And at the
same time, I look at this.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Right now, everybody thinks that whenever the federal government shuts down,
we're not spending any money. That's not true. We are
sending money to Israel. Right now, we still don't have
the four and eight tas cut off. And then the
icing on the cake on top of all that, let's
just go ahead and.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Point out the obvious.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Our congressmen are still getting paid right now, yeah, for
this shutdown. So yeah, you can tell me all day
long you want to see the government shutdown, it's a
little quick spending money.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
That's a load of crap.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Now we've seen it before. Our shutdowns are for non
essential employees don't get paid. And then when you think
about that non essential, what can you imagine being an
employee of the United States government. You told, oh, I'm sorry,
you're not essential. You don't get You've basically been told
your position there is really not important, You're not relevant.

(54:47):
So why do we have them in the first place.
If we can go without them, why do we have them?

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Which I'm gonna point this out real quick, So me
and some friends are actually going to dn't know how
to the National Air and Space Museum if it's open
this weekend because it's on by the FEDS. Unfortunately, that's
closed down right now, Curtsey the shutdown saga. We're planning
on having a little social media post over that if
the place ain't open by the weekend, So tune in

(55:14):
for that whenever you all get the chance to see it.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
But you know, real quick, back to the two A.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
We have the solutions to make sure that we are
cutting down on mass shootings, cutting down on violence. The
problem is we're not effectively using them because people just
do not they're not properly informed.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yeah, that is an issue. That is definitely an issue.
I think we also need to be more organized within
our communities. We need to start greeting each other face
to face, shaking each other's hands. In fact, you just
came from a meeting, to my understanding.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
I just came from heart GOPS meeting tonight. And in fact,
the actually had a member from the Family Foundation who
showed up, which, for those who don't know, the Foundation
is basically they're all four making sure that Christian values
are still being represented in our government. And they do
have a scorecards out there for your legislators who are

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doing that and who aren't doing that.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
So everybody needs to keep an eye on that.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Absolutely. So I think that's what you know. I think
that's what it comes down to, is organizing your communities,
looking for people to run for sheriff, to be constitutional sheriffs,
and support them as a community, work with them to
organize to protect your rights. Research and these laws that
have been passy, so coda's rulings and stuff, so that

(56:41):
when you have a neighbor who's being wrongfully arrested at stuff,
stand up for them, stand up with them. You have
to create a legal defense fund for these people.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
And on top of that, this needs to be said,
reach out to your legislators and hold their feet to
the fire, bug the crap out of them to make
sure that they're partin your rights.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Some people say that that doesn't work.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
I can tell you for a fact, that's the reason
why the assault weapons ban back in twenty twelve got stopped.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
That's the reason why the ATF did.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Not decide to ban M five to five ball ammunition
for free R type weapons or air type firearms. I
should go ahead and say, bottom line, reach out to
your elected officials and tell them, if you do not
protect our rights as you're supposed to, we will organize
and we will boot.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
You out.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
There. You go, Uh, do you remember Scalia? I think
it was that made a statement that you have a
right to keep in bare arms in accordance to what
is normal in today's society. So machine guns aren't considered normal.
People don't seek those out normally. What happens if we
all started to say we wanted to buy machine guns

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and become a normalized thing, would it changed? The ruling
would have been like, oh, well, you know, machine guns
to qualify now because more people seek them.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Well, even then, what would what that would boil down
to is we would have to see the repeal of
the NFA, which I still believe is possible even in
today's era. Yeah, it's about to turn one hundred years old,
but it's only a statute. You're gonna have enough people
you can have that shot down. And then the icing
on the cake on top of that, that would open

(58:20):
up the market to everybody getting access to firearms they
previously wouldn't get. Bottom line here in American right now,
if you want to own a machine gun, you either
have to get it off the black market, steal it,
or if you try to own it legally. Bottom line,
you're gonna have to go through a registration process that
is exhausting.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
And on top of that, uh huh. That was the
other thing I was about to mention, because right now
the firearms.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
You can buy that are legally available for you to buy,
our expensiveness can be right now. I hate to say it,
but it's a form of class warfare, unfortunately, because only
the people who have the money get to have the
fun toys.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Yeah, this is true. If you're not free today, if
you don't have the money to be free, Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
It's unfortunate that right now America is in that climate
to where money pretty much decides just about everything on
the sun, which we know society generally has been that way,
but it's worse to see it right now in a
country where we once had a thriving middle class and
now what we're saying is the disappearance of the middle class.

(59:27):
Because let's just face it, at the end of the day,
the powers that be want a slave class and a
ruling class. And if they take your two ay rights away,
they're going to have that slave class they want.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
So it comes down to and a lot of people
don't realize how they're being treated like childa They don't
see it, but it's true. Freedom is not just a
state of being, but it's a state of mind. But
it's hard to break that state of being when they
make laws to force you to buy things like with me,
electronic clogging device has been a bane. It's been a

(01:00:02):
thorn in my side. And what they did is they
passed the law requiring people to purchase something that created
a six billion dollars a year industry. They extracted money
out of working class people so they can become rich,
so they can enrich themselves and collect that data and
use that data against us for autonomous vehicles, and they
admit that. They say they used the data they collect

(01:00:23):
off the electronic clogging devices to help develop autonomous vehicles.
So we're being screw blued and dattooed all the way around.
We're being treated like we're owned. They're collecting our data literally,
and you're signing it away in order to use the
eled that you're forced to use by federal law.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
And the most obvious place their data right now everybody
needs listening to what I'm about to say right now. Hey,
to break it to you, the cell phone you carry
in your pocket, unless you had the proper encryption devices
to make sure it doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
They're tracking everything you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Do, and you're giving them. You're giving maxus to it
every time you give them permissions. When you're done that,
m Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
And the reason why the government had such a fit
over TikTok was because it was Chinese base and they
couldn't track the information you were sending over TikTok. That's
the real reason why Trump just recently cut that deal.
Was so bad DHS and whatever else could keep an
eye on their citizens.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
That's what it boiled down to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Well, there's two There's two aspects. TikTok was strictly Chinese owned,
and TikTok wasn't playing ballved with the federal government. Remember,
Biden was working with Facebook. Biden was working with Twitter
to censor us, to oppress our speech. They literally violated
our right to freedom of steach, not because it was
Facebook that did it, but because government colluded with Facebook

(01:01:44):
to get them to do it. So it was a
complete and total violation of our rights and TikTok wasn't
playing along. They didn't care, they didn't feel like they
needed to, so they had no controls over TikTok. So
what they did is a lot of people, American businessmen
have brought into TikTok, bought stock and stuff now and
sit on the boards and stuff like that. Now you

(01:02:06):
see TikTok censoring people left and right, sometimes a lot
worse than Facebook did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Mm hm.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
And it's unfortunate we're seeing that right now. Which recently,
even though some censorship is still going on, Facebook thankfully
is starting to lift it's stranglehold that it's had on
us for quite some time now, which here is the
unfortunate thing we had to face. And unfortunately in the
court we're gonna have to dispute it to some agree.

(01:02:34):
But whenever you sign those terms and conditions, unfortunately they
are going to try to use those terms and conditions
of the censory Yet.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Yeah, you do, you do agree to it to use it,
and I mean it's a matter of creating a better platform. Really,
Facebook is still censoring people, especially political posts. They hate
political posts. They don't want any political posts to get reach. Now,
if you're a congressman or something, you're going to get
your reach. But if you're like AJ and I here,

(01:03:03):
this don't go very far. In Facebook, we get.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Censored and ad and let's let's go ahead and mention
it right now. And I'm still to some extent arked
with it. But you know, the court said that Trump
was not able to block people on his social media.
But yet here's the thing. We still got politicians on
both sides still doing exactly that. They tell the President

(01:03:28):
of the United States he can't do it, but yet
we still have others that are doing it blatant violation
of case law.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Yeah, yep, but I don't think Trump ever did. There's
a lot of people in there hating on Trump on
True Social and they just get away with it. They
still Actually, I don't think anybody gets real. I'm on
True Social and I've been on there for a long
time and I started making post something that's going I
don't I'm not getting anywhere. Is they going anywhere? But man,
I'll tell you what, Dudesmax, what's the right side broadcasting?

(01:03:59):
And all the Trump cronies, Man, they're all over the
place getting if you're somebody, if you're already somebody, you're
getting your reach, That's what I'm getting at. And then
he allows live videos, but he's not gonna allow Patriot
or America America Talks over there doing a live video
by you know, if you're somebody like right Side or Newsbacks,
which are basically Trump's sycophants, they're going to get They're

(01:04:21):
gonna get the live videos.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
So and but you know, all this balls down to
at the end of the day, folks, if you want
to make sure that you're right to defense, you're right
to stand up against tyranny is protected. Number one, get involved,
and number two, all this graphic you're saying in the
media right now, namely the mainstream media, when it comes

(01:04:43):
to shootings or anything of that nature, ninety percent of
the time, the reason why they're reporting that is because
they're trying to influence you to support gun control. And
at the end of the day, gun control isn't necessarily
gun control, it's people control.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
I believe we went over time. I didn't think we
would tonight, but we did.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
I had a feeling we probably would because this is
a nick Knop topic.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Yeah, but it's time for us to cut out of here, ladies,
and gentlemen, we got to be moving on. And so yeah,
I'm like you, i could talk about this stuff all
night long, but I've also got to get some rest
for work tomorrow, so I better cut off here. So
do you have anything in closing you wanted to say?

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Or so just one thing closing, Folks, you know, if
you're worried about your two rights, go out, stand up
for him, don't be afraid to carry, and above all else,
make sure you tell people around you why you carry
and why you stand up for the Second Amendment.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
At the end of the day, there you go, ladies
and gentlemen. That's our that's our show for this week,
and we hope you got something out of it. If
you learned anything or you got anything out of it,
I feel any had all inspired or otherwise, please feel
free to share it. I don't know exactly what we're
gonna have next week, but we do plan on having
a show will come next Monday, and we will post

(01:06:09):
that in America Talks to Facebook group, you know, the
one that we never get any reach on, but we
persistently try to use it anyway. So it's one of
those deals you just kind of keep have to check
back in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
You know, we'll see if we have a guest or not.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
But I think I've got an idea for a show
that would probably be interesting if the shutdown is still
going on and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
I get back from this trip not being able to
enjoy what we were playing on joint.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Anyway, let's go ahead and throw out some fun facts
about government shutdowns for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
If it boils down.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
To that, that might be good. That might be a
good time, because there's been a lot of them and
it's mostly fair based in Bolstein. But we'll save that
for next week. So I guess we're cutting out of here,
so you'all take care, you have a good week, and
we will catch you next time we gone.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
If you hold a gun and I hold a gun,
we can talk about the law. If you hold a
knife and I hold a knife, we can talk about rules.
If you come empty handed and I come empty handed,
we can talk about reason. But if you have a
gun and I only have a knife, then the truth
lies in your hands. If you have a gun and

(01:07:24):
I have nothing, what you hold isn't just a weapon,
it's my life. The concepts of law, rules, and morality
only hold meaning when they are based on equality. The
harsh truth of this world is that when money speaks,
truth goes silent, and when power speaks, even money takes

(01:07:44):
three steps back. Those who create the rules are often
the first to break them. Rules are chains for the weak,
tools for the strong. In this world, anything good must
be fought for. The masters of the game are fiercely
competing for real sources, while only the weeks sit idly
waiting to be given a share.