Patriot Confederation with Bryan Hyde

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Every Patriot has an obligation to question authority. Those who
are honest are not concerned with your watchful vigilance, and
those with integrity are not concerned with your discernment. Every
American is obligated to voice their concerns and stand up
for their freedoms and liberties.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
One nation on your God, indivisible with liberty and justice
for all, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
We are the men in the arena. We are the
Patriot Confederation. We live back down from Bye.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
We're unfreed Americans.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
All right, ladies, gentlemen, Welcome to Patriot Confederation for what
is the last Tuesday of August twenty twenty five. Yes,
August twenty six, twenty twenty five. I'm your host, Bad
Billy out of Twin Falls, Idaho, joined as always by
John Grovenor out of Nashville and New Hampshire. How's it
going up there in New England?

Speaker 4 (01:21):
It's calling Billy, you know, same o samo up here
in New England. Though, we got our fair share of
problems like everybody, but we're joined, being the only free
state here in New Hampshire.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, I mean I don't know it
looks it looks like Maine and Vermont are sinking into
the abyss along as well as you know, Massachusetts already
has Connecticut did a long time ago.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
But no, it's a shame because there's so many people
that are conservatives in the area, but they're just drowned
out by all the liberals, you know, in downtown Boston
and such.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Boston, Boston, Yeahston, No, I mean, well, really, when you
look at the demographics, the state of Maine is very conservative.
In fact, I'm pretty sure that if they did not
have that rank choice voting garbage, that Trump would have
won the all three or four electoral College votes for

(02:27):
the state of Maine. But it's that rank choice voting
that they have any anyway, our guest this week, of course,
was supposed to be Christopher Key, but he had other
obligations and could not be here. So I made the
phone call and I want to welcome back Brian Hyde
right here in Native Idaho. And how you doing couldn't

(02:51):
be better?

Speaker 5 (02:53):
There you go, it's a good time to talk liberty
and freedom.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Always a good time to talk liberty and freedom. Yes, indeed,
and uh wow, there's there's a lot going on too
and you know, I've got some mixed feelings about some things.
This is where I want to I want to start. Basically,
the first of the conversation is, you know, you get
just a little while ago, you get caught burning a

(03:19):
rainbow flag, and you're facing some prosecution. Now at least
they have even the odds now that if you're burning
an American flag, you're gonna get prosecution as well. I
I like it. But at the same time, whether you're
burning an American flag or a rainbow mafia flag, it
still falls within the constitutional rights of the First Amendment.

(03:43):
I mean, I don't like to see somebody burning an
American flag. I utterly hate it. I want to beat
the hell out of them when I see them do it.
But they do have that constitutional right, just like not
to stand for the national anthem. You're gonna you're gonna
get back lash if you know, one way or another
you get But yeah, I I I don't know. I

(04:07):
just I don't I just don't see. I just don't
think it should be a crime.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I think when you see him burning the American flag,
you look at him and point and laugh and go
thank you for retiring the flag for us. Even though
there's a ceremonious process of doing it. That's how you
retire a flag.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
Is I when it comes to respecting the flag, I
believe that the flag is something that can be revered.
It can be it can be held, you know, in
high regard. I don't regard it as sacred. But for
this reason only. It's a mass produced object, and some
people may feel that it's sacred to them, and you know,
they will treat whatever. If they own a flag, they

(04:48):
will treat it with with that kind of respect. But
as as an emblem, it's not like there's only one
and anybody who does anything against it is, you know,
destroying some kind of sacred artifact. I don't think it's
wise to go poke people in the eye by desecrating
things that they hold dear. But I don't hold it
sacred in that regard. Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (05:09):
It does.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Actually, it's a new perspective to me. I haven't heard
anybody put it that way before. But a reflection of
what Billy's getting at is, yeah, you're right, it is
mass produced and it is just an object per se,
but it's an object with meaning. It does. It is
a resemblance of our country. So burning the flag the
way they do are walking on the flag, it's it's
desecration to the country as a whole because it represents

(05:32):
our nation. So it's kind of like a double edged
sword in what you guys are saying here. They do
have a right, they do have a freedom of speech,
but you know, your freedom of speech is also limited.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Right.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
You get the right to speech, but what's your intention
behind your speech? So if your intention is to go
to airport and you'll fire or bomb or something and
create a panic and cause people harm, then your freedom
of speech stop because your intention wasn't to freely speak.
Your intention was harm. And it's the same thing with
burning the flag. The desecration was meant to strike you emotionally. Yeah,

(06:04):
they could spend their twenty five ninety nine or whatever
they spent for the flag, and it's like burning you know,
twenty six bucks or fifty bucks whatever they spend on
the flag. But at the end of the day, their
whole purpose was to inflict some sort of emotional pain
or harm on people. Wasn't meant to just speak.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Can I pose a question though, And this is not
necessarily just about flags. But in general, if someone is
trying to elicit or provoke a response from us, do
we have a duty to be offended and respond or
is that a choice that we make, you know, depending
on where our heart is.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
That's a choice. Whether or not we're offended is a choice,
you know, because, like you know, seeing somebody, especially if
somebody feels oppressed and they feel oppressed by this country,
you know, and of course, especially if they're Americans. Is

(06:58):
if you're not you're an illegal alien, don't you have
no right to speak? Get out of here, you know whatever.
But if you're born to this soil and I see
you burning an American flag, I'm not gonna like it,
but I'm going to respect you, and that is your

(07:22):
first amendment to right to do so.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
So that's that's kind of a loaded question, isn't it,
Because when you think about it, yes, being offended as
a choice. But at the same time, it's kind of
like if somebody insults your wife or your girlfriend, do
you spect them down to protect her n her? And
that was the thing back in the day right as men,
you didn't take words had meaning and meaning give them

(07:49):
words power.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
And when people.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Speak harshly of you in public. They're putting you down,
they're being derogatory, and you have a right, well, the
old days had a right to defend you on It
wasn't just words, it meant something, you know. Sometimes it
resulted in the duel when somebody got shot and possibly died.
And nowadays we're such a pussified that we're supposed to
just you know, shrug it off. It's no big deal.

(08:14):
But it kind of is a big deal because it's.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
A lot an uncomfortable parallel though. Sure there are people
out there. I'm not naming names, but if you say
a word that begins with N and either ends with
a hard R or not, they so much as hear
that word they feel duty bound to become violent and
beat you or cripple you or maybe even kill you
just because they heard that word. And it is supposed

(08:39):
to be so triggering for them that we're supposed to
just understand that, Hey, they have no choice. They heard
the word, they have to get violent. Can it be
taken to a ridiculous end? And at what point do
we have to make a conscious decision? Is I mean,
depending on the circumstances, If somebody is putting hands on
my wife. I will respond very different differently than someone
who's just saying unkind words, depending on how it's done,

(09:01):
you know. I mean, there's not a one size fits
all solutions what I'm suggesting.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
I think it's sort of like self policing, isn't it
with society? If you if you, if you're derogatory somebody,
and they defend that or or defend themselves in that,
then it's kind of self policing. But nowadays you're expected
to pick up the phone and call the cops or whatever.
If it's something that it's warrant the cops.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
Tail you'll go to jail or somebody in the nose
and you know you mentioned duels. One thing that was
good about that time was we were a much more
polite society because your words could be backed up with
your life. If you weren't careful, it.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Could have been more than a bloody nose. And I
think we have a forefather that died because of that.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Hamilton Well, I think a good example to look to
is none other than Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse. When somebody
calls you, I want you to be nice, you know,
and of course basically you don't whatever name they call you,

(10:01):
you don't have the have the duty to be offended
as as you said, you know. And of course that
that lines loaded with a bunch of cuss words, you know,
but still, you know, he made a valid point that
I think we can bring into real life.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Something you wouldn't know this looking at me, but twenty
years and forty pounds ago, I was very heavily involved
in Brazilian jiu jitsu, and I met some guys who
were just super skilled practitioners, and the one thing I
noticed about them was they had nothing to prove, and
you know, someone could be drunk and challenge them, even
pushing them around, and they weren't looking for an excuse

(10:44):
to get violent. And my point here is people who
are experienced in violence know when it's appropriate, especially if
you've been on the receiving end. If you've ever spent
time sparring in a boxing ring, you know what it's like,
and so you know when you dish it out, you're
gonna be more careful.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
You're also touching on okay, so you do. You're you're
capitalizing off the experience of such a uh training well,
at the same time, part of that is disciplined and
you pick and choose your fight. You learned the discipline
of picking, so you don't get triggered and emotionally triggered
over stupid things such as the inWORD. Right, But at
the same time again, you know, defending your unders one thing,

(11:24):
but how much force do you use? And I think
Billy hit on that earlier, you know, I mean, you
don't bludget somebody where they're nearly dead just because he
used the inWORD. You might wrap him in the mouth
and say, hey, knock it off, you know, grow up,
act like an adult and walk away from it exactly.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
And uh, but by the way, Brian not, I guess
that explains why we both have Keith Owen on our
friends list on Facebook. May he rest in peace. But
he he was my first instructor, of course. And uh,
Dean Heilman is another name that might ring a bell
to you. And uh, yeah, he passed away twenty years ago,

(11:59):
my goodness. But you know, with uh, with my autism,
and you know I'm a slow learner, you know, I mean,
I had trouble training under Keith because he couldn't figure
out my learning pattern. Dean did. Dean was awesome and
I miss him. A lot, you know, and of course

(12:19):
I also trained with the likes of Jason Flynn and
uh Daniel niska few others that I'm pretty sure you
know the name. Well, when he joined me on Outlaw
Radio and my previous MMA podcast, he went by the
alias of the rooster mister Brent Peterson.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
I don't know Brent. I trained with Jake Johnston when
I was living in southern Utah and and Keith was
actually the guy who introduced me to Jake. But yeah,
you're talking about some great people, and and going back
to what john was talking about, you know there there's
a kind of discipline that's less about you know, well,
let me legally annaly eyes. Am I justified in using

(13:01):
force here? I have this this stubborn streak. When someone
is trying to provoke me, I want to deny them
the satisfaction of being able to get any space whatsoever.
In my head. That's that's my product, that's my territory.
And I defend that, you know as as you know
hard as I would defend my own door.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Absolutely well, we got You've.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Got a valid point there. I mean, it's it's true.
You know, you're you're you're in charge of yourself. You're
not gonna let somebody be in charge of you exactly.
Really wants to go to break, yep.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, we're at the first quarter, so we're going to
take our first break and we'll be back in right
around two minutes. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back,
and of course we are joined by Brian Hyde, of
course a native Idaho and right here out of my
my same towns. And uh, by the way, how long

(13:57):
have you lived here, Brian, since you mentioned you're a
rig from Utah.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, I was born in Salt Lake, moved to Twin
Falls when I was eleven, and then moved away in
nineteen ninety six. And it took my wife and me
twenty five years to make our way back, but we
made it. Four years ago. We came back and we
haven't looked back.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
You know what. I came back here nine years ago,
and after roaming roaming the country from two thousand and
five all the way up to two thousand and sixteen
for eleven years, pretty much roam in the country and
came back to this place. Yes, indeed, I don't regret
it either.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
No, it's easy to see why so many people want
to come here, and no disrespect to New Hampshire. Actually,
some of the most liberty oriented people that I have
met in my life journey have have called New Hampshire home.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
I loved New Hampshire. I grew up in Florida, but
when I made it to New Hampshire, I was kind
of like, WHOA, this place looks a good fit for me.
But I have in Idaho as a truck driver, and
I really like Idaho a lot. And you know, I've
got to know that through the years, through people like
Randy Weaver things that happened in Nightaho and get an
idea from the culture and stuff, well that that really

(15:10):
could be a good fit too, you know, a really
nice place.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yes, yes, indeed, so, uh we're you know, I can't
believe we're all already almost the end of August and
about to go into Paul and not far from one
year into into uh Trump's term and uh his final
term too, And UH got to say, I'm there's I'm

(15:36):
really finding some things very questionable. I mean, uh, the
what he did in d C I think was absolutely necessary.
And you know, people can can disagree with me whether
or not you know that he basically made the tatalitarian
police force in d C. And now he's eyeballing Chicago. Uh,

(16:00):
but let's look at the facts here. You know, DC
number one is not a state in it and they're
trying to make it a state because if it was
a state, what he did wouldn't be constitutional. But you know,
he's eyeball in Chicago. And do I agree that changes

(16:21):
need to be made in Chicago. Absolutely. It's not without
reason that they call it the world's largest outdoor shooting range,
and and and it's supposed to be a gun free zone.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Wish.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah. Yeah, very safe indeed, especially with how yeah, the
city with the highest murder rate per capita is very safe.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
I actually have a good friend who grew up in Chicago.
I call him Chicago Ron, and he would regularly send
me up to Hey, this weekend there was this many
people shot and this many people killed in Chicago. He
lives in southern Utah. But it was just kind of
his reminder of I was wise to get out of there.
He's just reminded himself it was it was good to leave.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
I mean, but well, the crime statistics in the past
week in d C have dropped, I mean, Wow, they've
made some rather big arrests, and uh, it's been quiet
and DC residents are happy. Now could we see the

(17:35):
turning of the tide perhaps, you know, as I don't
know that. I think the Democrats will try to find
a way to steal and cling on to their their
blue areas, especially d C. But uh, you know, and
they can say just like Boise, they can say Boise
is blue, Boise is blue. But yet when you look

(17:56):
at the map, Trump still won Eta County. It's because
only the politicians in Boise are blue. The mayor, of course,
doesn't even belong in the state of Idaho as far
as I'm concerned. But the residents of Boise are Republicans
or conservatives or libertarians whatever, have a conservative mindset, and

(18:19):
we're seeing, you know, and I think that could possibly
be what's happening in DC. You know, do either of you.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
Have any concerns or misgivings about the precedent that this
might be setting. I mean, look, I know people have
talked about DCP in a very wild, unpredictable place, you know,
gangs of youth running around on quads and motorcycles and
stuff and just terrorizing people and I think it's probably
great to see that addressed head on. At the same time,

(18:51):
I'm trying to think like an economist and think, okay,
but what what are some of the unintended consequences? For instance,
if a democratic president were to start exercising these kinds
of powers, what would that look like? You know, based
on the president? Well, Trump did it, and you guys
were all okay with that, so this must be okay too.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, there there's that issue that you're talking about too,
Like the the Real id people said. People said no
to Bush, they said no to Obama, but Trump, Okay,
It's like no, no, Trump is Trump is making a

(19:32):
mistake here, and we got to let him know that.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
That was like twenty five years trying to get that in.
Almost the thing about the real idea kept getting pushed
off because people weren't accepting of it, and finally they
got They finally just put their foot down, is what
they did. But going back to your question about the president,
the thing about it is is like talking to Ram
Paul one time and asking, what are we going to
do about all these regulatory agencies? It's out of control
regulatory agencies, just rogue agencies and they're going us. He goes,

(19:58):
that's why we need to elect a good president, and
it puts the emphasis on the concept that we really
do need to vet our presidents. We really do need
to pay attention because they have extreme amount of powers.
People don't realize. They're not just you know, men making
frivolous decisions. They're making really big decisions for us at times,
and they got a lot of control. Talking to my

(20:20):
US Senator's office about these regulatory agencies and the fact
that they give the president a blank check. A good
example that is a US Department of Transportation as a
statutory lawsy and the Secretary may prescribe a maximum ours
of service roles doesn't say how, doesn't describe anything, doesn't
give any details, just blank at check. Now, the president

(20:40):
under executive order can make determinations on his own right,
He can kind of do things or it's under the
president's control at that point in time fairly much, you know.
And we see that Trump's using a lot of executive orders.
Now we've seen Biden to race his previous executive orders
put his own in place. So we're getting this yo
yo effect between presidents and it's kind of getting sick
thing over time. But as far as the National Guard goes,

(21:04):
I don't know if it's really precedent or not because
the way it's been used in the past in Ohio,
back in oh what school is that.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
You can't stay?

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Yes, I mean they were used and people actually died.
But let me refer to a law. Okay, a lot
of people probably don't know this law exists, but it's
under US Title Codes Title ten US two fifty three
says the President by using the militia or the armed forces,
or both, or by any other means, she'll take such
measures as he considers necessary to suppress in a state

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any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if it
so hinders the execution of the laws of that state
and of the United States. Within the state, that any
part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity,
or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law,
and the constituted authorities of that state are unable fail

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or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or
to give that protection, or to opposes or obstructs the
execution of laws of the United States and ampedes the
course of justice under those laws.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
That's a pretty big bill. I mean, it's only a
couple of paragraphs, but that's a lot of power. And
that's exactly what Trump is doing, is it not. Isn't
that what he's saying. He's going to use the National
Guard to finally cone in on some of this crime.
And I've made these criticisms about the government in the.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Past, is they want to take away our right to
keep them their arms, and they keep trying to restrict them.
And now they're going through the States, and the States
are supposed to respect the Constitution the same as the
Feds are now, but they don't. And so this kind
of action can turn things around for us. It could
be a positive thing. Depends on how he uses it.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
He will.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
You're right, he wields that power. So it's who we
elect for president and how he handles that power is very,
very important.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
That's a good explanation, thank you. Absolutely. Yeah, Well there's
a reason why when what Shane Class said, when John speaks,
you must listen a winner. Yes, now I agree that
you know, whether you know whether or not it's constitutional

(23:14):
or not. It seemed to work this time. But I
see your point, Ryan is what will the what will
the next president do? How far will he take it?
And I think the real answer is probably constitutional carry.
And I but the story I hear, well, people are
going to think they're the lone ranger and become vigilantes
or whatever. Well, you want to defund the police, and

(23:37):
so that means we have to police ourselves. And and
the way we're going to do that is with our
Second Amendment rights. Do you really want to go that far?
And no, people are not going to be triggered happy,
especially if you you know, you have people like me
who are are trained and disciplined. Oh but not everybody's

(23:57):
trained and disciplined.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
You know.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Well that's true, but I don't think you know, they're
not going to go Charles Bronson and become the almighty vigilante.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
One of the most memorable conversations I had with it
was some school board members in southern Utah and they
were trying to discuss whether the schools should be able
to keep concealed carry permit holders out. And you know,
the police were right to turn people away if they
had their concealed you know, firearm on them if they
were a permit holder, and I was just kind of asking, okay, well,
what is your objection? Is that the fact that someone

(24:29):
has access to a firearm? And they're like, well, sometimes parents,
meetings with the principal, or with teachers become very heated.
I'm like, okay, so what does that mean? Well, it
just doesn't seem like a good place to have a firearm.
And I went, Okay, if you and I were having
a discussion and it got very heated and there were
a firearms sitting here on the counter in front of you,
if it got heated enough, would you pick it up

(24:50):
and kill me? Of course not. I would never do that.
I'm like, well, what makes you think the rest of
us wouldn't be able to control ourselves either. It doesn't
make sense.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's the mindset right there. A lot
of a lot of ignorant people is you know, they think, well,
he's gonna get mad, he's gonna pull his gun, he's
gonna shoot somebody. You know, everybody gets mad, everybody gets scared.
Doesn't mean that we're gonna go for our weapons.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
It's it's why when people say there's no such thing
as too much training. I am one on board not
because you're becoming, you know, a high speed load drag
operator operating tactically in an operational environment. I mean, it's
it's because you understand that you have options and you know,
in the very worst case, I can take care of
business if I have to, But I have options. So

(25:46):
just because someone's mean mugging me doesn't mean that I
have to make that my problem. I'm totally okay with
walking away from it knowing that you know, they had
no idea that this was their lucky day, but it was.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Well, the thing about it is force meets force, and
you need equal force. And if you take firearms away
from common citizens, the only criminals and cops have them,
and the cops aren't hanging out at your front door
all day every day. So you need a force and
you need some form of protection for yourself. And you know,
it's like you said, having firearms in the school is
what you'd expect. If a teacher had a firearm in

(26:20):
the school, they would be trained to use the firearm.
You're not just gonna stay here take a loaded weapon
and you don't know how to use one. We'll take
it anyway because you might need it, you know, come on, man,
it's just stupid.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Well and also, you know, and I've told the story
many times, getting back to the safe city of Chicago
when I was there a couple of years ago, and
I did carry my weapon illegally, but I still carried it.
And what's my excuse, Well, the criminals there don't obey
that loss, So why should I have.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
You have exactly as many rights as you're willing to claim,
use and defend. And when it comes to something like that,
I think what was the guy's named, Elisha Dickon. They're
in Indiana. The guy started a mass shooting at the
mall in the food court. Oh yeah, walked past that
sign that said no weapons allowed and went, huh, I
wonder who that's for, and stopped the shooting, you know,
because he understood that if you want to have the

(27:15):
right to defend yourself, you're going to have to claim it.
And you know the Yeah, the mall posted the sign,
but they weren't willing to put guards or metal detectors
or pat people down. So who wanted to exercise their rights? More?
In this case, Elisha, I think did the right thing.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Exactly like it. Well that that sadly that shooter did
kill five people, but how many more would he have
killed if Elishah Dickens wasn't there to stop him.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
By the way, if I recall correctly, you have a
right to transport your first We have a guy in
Massachusetts right now. He's been in jail for two months,
wrongfully arrested and waiting for trial and they can't get
him out. So he was traveling through Massachusetts all all
the articles said he was going north and so I
assuming Vermont or New Hampshire. And he was stopped because

(28:04):
his registration exped in his car. And I'm going to
assume that was during the course of travel. Maybe he
got delay. I don't know why, but for some reason,
the officer searched the trunk of his car and finds
he has an illegal firearm in the state of Massachusetts.
But that's the state of Massachusetts. It's not a federal
laws of state law. You have a right by federal
law to transport your firearms as long as your point

(28:26):
of departure and your point of destination have reciprocating laws.
As long as it's legal to have it at your
point of destination, you have a right to travel with it.
You have a right to just make sure you might
be meet the state law as far as keeping it
in your trunk or separating from him, whatever their regards are,
that might become an issue. But just because of a
thirty round magazine, that's removal. You know, removable magazine doesn't

(28:49):
make it illegal to transport.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
It seems like New Jersey was famous for this for
a long time. People passing through it would get pulled
over and mind if we look through your vehicle, Oh
you have a firearm, and boom, you're a criminal. And
they had done nothing criminal. They just were pulled over
for some traffic events. But now they got hooked up
because the New Jersey cops were taught to find the
firearm take it.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
We were talking to Dan Dan. I can't think the
last time is that who or Dan out of New
York State to believe Watts with the Yeah, yeah, So
he was talking about the case where somebody come out
of Philadelphia and do Trenton or something, and of course
you hear about the arrest and everything. You never heard
that she got that overturned because she wasn't doing anything illegal.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Exactly. Well, we're at the bottom of the hour and
that means we need to take our bottom of the
hour break and when we come back, we have to
turn the tides a little bit to talk about some
things that Brian was recently touching up on his show
and just some things that really get my blood boiling.

(29:53):
So with that said, we'll be back here in just
under three minutes, and ladies and gentlemen, we are back.
And if you're watching us on QUE Broadcasting, appreciate you
tuning in and hopefully, uh you tune in more, not
just to our program, but other great programs here on

(30:15):
Patriots Prayer Network. Of course, once again we are joined
by Brian Hyde. Brian Hyde, of course has his own podcast,
great show, and I suggest you check it out when
you get a chance. I gotta say, uh, you know,
I had I had some hopes that the FBI might

(30:36):
turn over a new leaf when we brought in Cash Patel.
Uh my personal opinion, Cash Patel has just proven to
me that he's knowed better than James call me. Him
and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondy have done a terrible
job and I want to see them go wow.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
I'm trying to be a bit magnanimous to them as
far as you know, maybe the corruption is so deep
that you know, they're learning the reality that the best
they can do is expose it as opposed to fix it.
But what you're talking about here, within the last week
or so, where the FBI awarded medals of bravery to
the agents that were part of a roadblock in Oregon

(31:23):
about almost ten years ago in which Lavoy Finnicum was killed,
and to give those not only give them medals of
bravery for their participation, but there's at least three outright
lies in the citation accompanying those medals, calling Lavoy a
domestic terrorist, saying he struck a federal vehicle with his truck,
or that he pinned an agent under his truck. None

(31:44):
of that is true. None of it is yet it's
you know, now it's been enshrined an officialdom. Oh look,
and we you know, awarded these medals to further solidify
what happened, But it didn't happen like that.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Well. Also, UH, just a few days ago, Brian I
joined an x space where there were it was basically
a group of uh retired police officers or law enforcement
officers whatever, sheriffs, and uh I decided to raise my hand.
I poised the question, how do you feel about cash

(32:19):
Betel awarding these agents the middle of bravery after, you know,
blatantly shooting Lavoy Finicam. When you look at the video,
the video alone from the aerial view is one thing.
You don't hear anything. And with the aerial view it
looks like he did run into a vehicle or he
did run over somebody. But you know that it's I

(32:40):
think that that footage was doctored, mind you, I really do. Uh.
This footage with it with inside the vehicles, clearly shows
that Lavoy Finnicum was murdered and uh so I asked him,
how do you feel about this? Their answer was the
police did what they had to do because the boy

(33:03):
Finnick had a gun on him and he was going
to draw and they had no choice but to shoot him.
He was unarmed. Yeah, he carried a gun, but at
that moment he was going to see the sheriff in
the next county and he was unarmed. And not only that,
you watch the video, he was shot the moment he
stepped out of the vehicle, so he didn't even have

(33:24):
time to go for a.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
If I, if I can elaborate on what you're saying believes.
I recall he was being chased by law enforcement officers.
They had but under lights. He stopped his vehicle. They
did not approach the vehicle or give him any legal commands,
so he figured that he was not being stopped or detained,
so he proceeded to drive away. As he done so
with miners as passengers in the back of his suv,
they begin to fire upon him, which forced him to

(33:48):
drive even faster, trying to escape the deadly consequences of
their actions. He has he come around a turn on
a snowy road. He come up on police cruisers that
were part of the roadblock in his path, with afficers
out in the road. To avoid running over those officers,
he had left the road and buried himself in the
snow bank. Then he exited his vehicle. The one mistake

(34:09):
he made, if he made any mistakes at all, was
he had a jacket on which was unbuttoned, was open,
and he had his hands in the air. When he
exited the vehicle, his right hand he touched his chest.
Don't know why exactly he did it, panic, scared, I
don't know why, but he touched his chest. They fired
upon whom I killed him.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
So there's also the question that I wish you could
have asked those those police officers, is if they did
what they had to do, why was there no arrest
warrant the night that they tried to pull him over
and the night that they set up that dead man's roadblock.
I mean, the FBI had had time to cut tree
branches to set up you know, zones of fire. It

(34:49):
was a classic L shaped ambush, and there were no
arrest warrants issued until the following day, which you know
they they the most calls. Oh, it was a terrible standoff.
It was an armstele. No, it wasn't. It was people
traveling to and fro and they had been traveling. Ryan
Bundy and la Voi Finnicum had driven from the refuge
all the way to Cedar City, Utah, where they met

(35:10):
with me. So he surprised me and appeared on my
radio show there. I think it was January thirteenth of
twenty sixteen, and you know, of course I was like, yes, please,
I just cleared my schedule, come on in. And he
talked to my audience for three hours and it was very,
very powerful. But my point is they could come and
go because there was no They weren't fugitives. Nobody had

(35:31):
charged them with any law. Even the state police in
Oregon could not name a law that they were breaking.
And when the FBI and others were asked by legislators
who visited the refuge, so what are you thinking of
charging him with the answer was, well, that's for the
you know, that's for the US Attorney's office to figure out.
They didn't even know there was no law they could sight.
So why did they have to stop him? Why did

(35:53):
they have to do what they had to do, you know,
by shooting him. By the way, Ryan Dy still has
the bullet in his shoulder from one of two shots
that were fired before the truck ever came to a stop,
and the eye agent, Joseph Astarita, was put on trial
for it, but he and his other FBI agents played
I'm you know, I'm Spartacus. No, I'm Spartacus and put

(36:15):
enough reasonable doubt in the mind of the jurors that
they couldn't convict him for lying about those two shots
that were unaccounted for.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Another thing I find very questionable too, that's not mentioned
by very many people, is do you know how long
Finnicum's body laid there after they shot him. It was
hours his so they allowed his body to get mutilated
by frostbite before they actually took him to a morgue.

(36:45):
What was up with that?

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yeah, it's from I interviewed Jeanette Finicem last week and
one of the things that she brought out was the
scene itself wasn't secured for at least six hours after
the shooting. And during that time, you know, the footage
of the plane above shows FBI agents poking around in
the snow looking around the vehicles, and they had time
to tamper with the evidence. But it doesn't seem like

(37:10):
that was a high priority. It was mainly, well, how
are we going to get our story straight?

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Yeah? You know, I listened to that entire conversation. In fact,
I featured it yesterday on Patriots Prayer Network, and I'm
just a loss for words, you know, And and I'm
disgusted with Pash Cash Patel or trash Patel as I
call them on social media, because I really feel this

(37:39):
was the last straw. I mean, yeah, I know that
the swamp is deep, and you know, there it's basically
become a mafia. You cross them the wrong way, they
can get you killed.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
You know why Now, why would they give the medals?

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Now?

Speaker 5 (37:53):
What purpose does that serve? Ten years after the fact.
It just seems very weird timing.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
No, these officers should be in jail. They should When
was the inniversity?

Speaker 4 (38:05):
This wasn't the anniversary date obviously because it was in
the wintertime. Correct when this.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Happened January twenty sixth to twenty sixteen, So we're coming
up on ten years in January.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Yeah, so it's not like it's an anniversary date for them.
I can't understand the timing on it either. Is it possible, though,
just you know, playing Devil's Advocate with you here a bit, billy,
Is it possible that cash Pttel did not do his
research on this case to know the details of it,
but just took it at face value?

Speaker 3 (38:30):
No, I'm not maybe, but I'm not buying it. You know.
Jeanette Finniken, I respect her, but I think she's being
a bit too forgiving and that's that's just her nature,
and I respect that, but I'm not buying the fact that, oh,
he probably doesn't know the details whatever. No, no, no, no, yeah,
I mean you know the background before you give an

(38:53):
award like that.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
You should you should know the research and stuff. But
if he just looked at a file and what wast
file and you would think to be coming from the
Trump or Trump administration with the law fair and the
bolstein that Trump had to put up with all these years,
you would know that the crooked and corruptcy.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
You should do your due diligence, right And how about
given the fact too, that we got to go to
break here in just a moment, uh, that the entire
Bundy family and the Hammond family, we're we're given pardons
by Trump before he ended his first administration. Remember that.
But you know, so that alone should say something right there,

(39:34):
that alone, But but no cash Betel awards the bad
guys And I'm I'm I'm sorry. I just there's no
excuse for it. That's I'm stumbling over my words because
it really makes me angry.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
It's frustrating. It is very right, you're rightfully frustrated. This
is this gets to be too much. And to be
honest with you, I've got a lot of questions for
the Trump administration right now, this time, right now, there's
things going on that I'm not liking, and I'll just
come out and tell you about it. I've been a
staunch Trump supporter. Trump filed here in New Hampshire to
run in the primary twenty twenty four, went down to Derry,

(40:11):
New Hampshire, which is not far from me. I thought
to myself, what's this going to be this first event
here in New Hampshire. Maybe thirty minute speech or so
I whip out the cell phone, fire it up so
I get him coming on stage. I just told my
hand up here and record him.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
One hour and.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Forty five minutes, I was still standing there recording the
whole thing. Okay, that's the kind of Trump supporter I've been.
But darn it, I'm seeing things I don't like, and
I'll just come out and be honest about it. Because
if I can't be honest about it, something's wrong.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yes, I say good on you for having the consistency
to say ah, but I don't agree with that exactly.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
That's how we should be.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
We should be independent minded. Autonomy means autonomy. Don't follow
the crowd just to follow the crowd, and what you're
doing exactly.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Let's take our final break and we'll be back to
wrap up in about a minute and a half. All right,
ladies and gentlemen, we are back our final segment of
the show. And of course, uh once again, Brian stepped
in on short notice when Christopher could not make it. Hey,
I thank you a million for that. So happy to

(41:15):
do it. Yes, yes, indeed. Plus it's been a while
since we talked, too, but I still I apologize. I
still not don't remember our first meeting at the event
at the park when I was talking to Lacey Brady.
I just I don't know if we shook hands or

(41:35):
we spoke a little bit, but you remember me, so
that's good. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
I just knew you were hanging out with the right people,
and I thought this time must be okay. Plus he
had a really good audio setup and I was like,
and he knows his stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
So yes, yes, indeed, Well I'm hoping. I've been talking
to Shane. It's like, you gotta do this again. You know.
We got to set up and it was the right
time of year or two wasn't too it was it
was just uh that was actually I think the first
day it got somewhat cold. That that's uh fall going

(42:09):
into summer. Uh, Oh what a good time it was too, Yes, indeed.
But uh, now, John, I I agree with you. There's
you know, I appreciate Trump, you know, making his return,
but it does seem like that it's not the same

(42:30):
as the first term. Of course I didn't it. What
I didn't expect, of course, or what I did expect
is the left to go after him relentlessly as they
did in the first one.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
The first term.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
You know, there's still oh, he's a racist, he's a
big he's whatever. But uh, you know, we're going a
lot of that too. Is still a lot of people
are going off what they what they hear on TV
with you know what the mainstream media is not telling
you though. And this is what I am impressed with,
is uh, you know, seems like most of the most

(43:04):
of the liberals anymore, and the hardcore liberals are are
within the some of them baby boomers, uh, some of
them gen xers like me and John. I think you're
a gen xer too, aren't you, Bryan?

Speaker 5 (43:18):
I am y Uh.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
But Generation Z, the rise of conservatives within Generation Z
is oh my goodness, you know. And it starts out
with Senator Josh Cole. I love that kid. I mean,
he is far exceeding my expectations since he took office,

(43:43):
and a lot a lot of people too, were like,
I had one conversation that could have turned the tide
on that. They they said, you know, I mean this
kid that, why don't you try running when you when
you get past puberty. And I said, I said to him,
you know, don't judge him just because he seems a

(44:03):
bit wet behind the ears. Why don't you look at
Linda Hartkin and look at the way she votes because
she's spending your tax dollars any which way she wants
that you don't, I guarantee you don't. Like you know,
she wants to keep porn in our libraries. She wants
to reward it illegals with with amnesty and other privileges.

(44:27):
You know, she's a nice lady on above the surface,
but underneath, you know, she she's killing us.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
What. I'm fortunate that you mentioned Linda because I had
this perfect analogy of you know, it's they talk about, well,
we need someone with experience, and I'm like, do you
want to prostitute with the most experience or you know,
is it or a thief with the most experience And
I love the fact that there are young people like
like we see especially in these four Magic Valley legislators

(44:56):
who uh they don't bring as many bad habits with
them to the job.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yes, well that guy had a conversation with that's you know.
He he said, he took what I said to heart
and and said, you know what, I'll look into that.
Well which way he voted, I don't know, but I
I have a feeling I reached something inside. You know.
It's like, you know, give the kid a chance, and

(45:24):
you know, I hope he's looking at him and I
hope he's happy. A lot of people to talk to
me and said, well he's single. You need to be
married to be in office, Like, what does that matter? Plus,
on the day of my anniversary he got married, so
and so did Shane class. They both got married on
the same day, but not to each other. Yeah, somebody

(45:52):
else now, but no, they they both married their loved
ones on the same exact you know.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
So there's you guys get points, Billy. A lot of
people underestimate youth, you know. They I don't know what
it is about generational divide, but it drives me. That's
when I hear older people putting down the next generation.
It's not right. You should be elevating them. That's what
we should be doing. If we want a better society,
we should be elevating these people and bringing them up.

(46:22):
It's kind of like the what was the Indian tribe
there with a sitting bowl law?

Speaker 3 (46:26):
The Dakota's right he's to was a sue, Yeah, yes, sue, see.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
You righte Sioux Indians. So but he used to say,
we have a philosophy we don't talk down to our children.
We talk up to our children because we expect them
to grow up to be adults. Young people are quick learners,
and if they're given the confidence, they can do phenomenal things.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
So we're absolutely right. Well, I think people just expect,
you know, they look at our history and they're like, well,
the youngest president we ever had was forty two, so
you need to be somewhat in your thirties whatever before
you can run for office whatever I mean. So, yeah,
twenty between the ages of twenty to twenty five might
be a little too young, especially twenty, but you know,

(47:07):
once they're past the age of twenty five and they're
starting to get some experience in life, you know, we
need some young blood. And these are the these are
the people within that age range that I'm talking about
are turning conservative. I mean, we'll look at it. Those
are registered to vote, they're registering to Republic and the
majority of them and they're youngsters.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
One of my side gigs is I produce a podcast
for an outfit out of Washington, DC called Young Voices,
and so it's it's the Moving Forward with Young Voices
podcast and every week I interview four contributors and they're
all jen z you know, between twenty and twenty five.
Most of them are in college. But these are conservative,

(47:52):
free markets, economic just they are very principled and it's astonishing.
And they're very good too. I mean, they're being published
in national publications and it really gives me a lot
of hope because I you know, I've I've given the
millennials use snowflakes. You know, you need to toughen up.
And I'm telling you these gen Z folks, they they

(48:15):
have got a backbone. And that's good because I think
they've got some pretty heavy lifting ahead of them.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Yes, yes, I mean, i mean, I'm no, I'm no
old man at the who's about to turn fifty one,
by no means I'm I still consider myself pretty young.
But I know that I do look at the fact
that I don't have a lot of chapters left and
and somebody needs to go forward, you know, And yeah,

(48:43):
you don't need I think you should be well into
your thirties before you run for an office as high
as US Senate or or president. But you know, if
you want to get into politics, do it while you're young,
and do it at the local office to start with.
I mean everybody, I mean, it doesn't matter what you
do in life, you always start at the bottom.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
What what does the law say as far as running
for politics. I mean, we've had a guy the youngest
mayor in the country, right was this about ten years ago?
I think he was like twenty one twenty two years old,
and he was capable. He was capable of doing the job.
You know, I say good on him. People voted for him.
He was capable of doing the job. He's one to
take on the responsibility. Like I said earlier, man, some

(49:25):
of these young people are brilliant. You know, we were
brilliant young people when we were young. You know, it's
just young people. If you give him a chance, and
you get out of the way or encourage him a
little bit. They can do phenomenal things.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
That's what we are. We still are young. What are
you talking about? When we were young? We still are
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (49:42):
I'm raising my caney yelling geezers unite.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
Well, I'm a young guy who's only almost thirty. But no,
I'm yeah. It wasn't until I was about thirty though,
that I really, I don't know, something clicked and suddenly
I realized, you know what, there's a purpose or I
need to live with purpose and freedom was one of
the purposes that really motivated me, and and it has
for for the last you know, twenty nine years.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Yes, absolutely, Well, uh, we're almost out of show already. Yeah, yeah,
by fast. Of course, conversation with somebody like Brian, you
can expect it to go by fast.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
I always bring a great supply of hot air wherever
I go.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
So well, yeah, we didn't get into the Trump and
his investments into corporations. Man, I'll save that one for
tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yes, uh, but we see everything in the in the ticker.
But some people may be listening, of course, and I
do have followers who are blind or visually impaired. So
if anybody wants to follow up with you, where do
they go, Brian?

Speaker 5 (50:52):
They can check out my website, the Brianhideshow dot com.
Brian is used the masculine spelling with a Y, Brian
with the Y and hide with the and there you'll
find archives. And I do a little daily radio feature
called Hide and Plain Sight that's less political and more
about just how to become an unplayable piece on that
big chessboard of life so that you're not being manipulated

(51:13):
by other people.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
And no relation to Edward Hyde, none whatsoever. If you
know who I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
Actually I don't. Should I know him?

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Doctor jackyls counter. Okay, that's where he was going. I
could remember if it was that.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
I haven't read what Robert Lewis Stevenson for a long time.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
But yeah, that's one of my that's one of my
favorite pieces of literature is Jekyl and Hyde. And yeah,
that's and it's spelled the same way.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
You've had You've had that plan in your name throughout
your life, haven't you pretty much?

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah? Yes, indeed, Well we're gonna have an interesting guest
next week. I didn't get much of a chance to
talk to him while I was in Tulsa. But we're
going to be speaking with Mark Grinnan, who spent a
time in jail for helping people with remedies that aren't

(52:11):
regulated by the Food and Drug Administration but they work,
so we're gonna be speaking with him next week.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Awesome.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yes, Brian, God bless you, and please keep doing what
you're doing, as I will too because we need to
stick together and get the word out and get the
truth out. For the most part, thank you.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
It's been a pleasure hanging out with both of you
and John. Great to see you as well.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Same here man, Yes, and ladies and gentlemen, thank you
very much for tuning into Patriot Confederation. God save the
Republic of the United States of America.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
We will live from bann.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
O. Can I