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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Every Patriot has an obligation to question authority. Those who
are honest are not concerned with your watchful vigilance, and
those with integrity are not concerned with your discernment. Every
American is obligated to voice their concerns and stand up
for their freedoms and liberties.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
One nation on.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Your God invisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Ladies and gentlemen. We are the men in the arena.
We are the Patriot Confederation. We live back down from Bye.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
We're a feed Americans. All right, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome
the Patriot Federation for what is the eighth of July

(01:03):
twenty twenty five. I'm your host, Bad Billy out of
Twin Falls, Idaho, joined by John Growner out of Nashaua,
New Hampshire, New England. How's it going up there, brother?
Going right up here, Billy?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
You know we're enjoying that up and coming no inspection
for our automobiles, getting a little bit of taste of
that freedom once again. Also, did you hear just shooting
something right up your rally here or something you'll love
if you ever heard Donald Trump is entertaining the thought
of making plans to host UFC fights at the White

(01:35):
House or on White House property for the two and
fiftieth anniversary of the United States of America.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, no surprise there, to be honest with you, I
did not hear about that. But then again, long before
he even thought of becoming president, he was hosting events
at the Trump taj Mahal. So he's always been a
fan of the UFC. So that'd be interesting to see.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
The man likes to fight one way or another.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah, joining us this week, of course, we're welcoming back.
It's almost been two years since he last joined us,
and here he is again, the one, the only, the
legendary g Edward Griffin. Thank you very much for joining us.
How are you today?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Oh well, I'm doing fine. Thanks for inviting me, my pleasure.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Absolutely absolutely quick announcement before we jump into it. If
you're looking down at the ticker, you'll see there's a
little bit extra there. That's because Vincent Sabian, who contacted
me and we've had him on the show in the
recent past. He's starting a fundraiser to get some trucks

(02:42):
loaded with goods to help the victims down in Texas
who were suffering from the devastating floods down there. If
you want to help out or donate, all the information
you need is at buck up Relief mission dot net
and of course you'll also see the Gibson Go link

(03:04):
as well. So if you can help out those people
would be greatly appreciated, because they're going through a pretty
rough time right now. And I'm pretty sure though, at
least now we have an administration in office that's going
to offer them something more than seven hundred and fifty
dollars that I'll have to pay back. But that's another story,

(03:26):
another discussion for another time. If you can help out
and be greatly appreciated. So anyway, Ed, I'm excited. You've
got to be excited. Coming up this weekend, we have
the Red Pill Expo in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Now I'm partly

(03:47):
excited for the fact that I've never been to Tulsa,
so I get to go someplace I've never been before.
That's all that always intrigues me. But I'm always excited
to attend the Red Pill X Oh, and this is
going to be great.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, thank you, I think it will be great. This
is our number thirteen. It's quite put an amazing number.
For me, I consider it to be a lucky number
in this case. When we put the first event on
back in twenty seventeen, I thought we were insane.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Man.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
You know, nobody's going to come to our meetings. Nobody
wants to hear us talk about all this heavy stuff
of what's happening in the real world and what responsibilities
we have and opportunities we have to do something about it.
Nobody wants to hear that. They won't come to our meeting.
And I was like, e or you know, nobody cares, nobody,

(04:39):
but they won't come. But we were surprised. We opened
the door of Saturday morning there in Bozeman, Montana, and
they were there. They came from all over the United States,
and I think also twenty other countries were represented. We
packed the place looked like the Democrat Convention. I couldn't
believe all these people that came from everywhere. And we
knew we had rees hit the target in the bullseye

(05:02):
because we were trying to popularize our message. Our message
really is the meme of the red Pill, you know,
taken from The Matrix, the film The Matrix. You take
the red pill and you break out of the matrix
and you see life the way it really is and
you drop all of your illusions. So that was the
way we thought we would popularize our message, which is

(05:24):
wake up. You know, you're an illusion if you think
everything is honkey dor out there because the water is
still coming out of your pipe. You know, takes a
lot more than that to worry about your future and
your liberty in particular. So we were, you know, always
the guy saying, wake up, see what's going on, and
nobody cared about that because life was so good. But
finally what we got this meme of the matrix and

(05:47):
the red pill. It was a little fun to it,
but the message was still just as serious as it
ever was. So that's what we're doing. We're having a
little fun along the message is very.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Serious, Yes, yes, astely. Absolutely. One thing I want to
touch on before because we're going to talk a little
bit about the guests that you've had, and I see
some familiar faces, uh, one that I'm happily gonna say
I'm partially responsible for him being there. But I'll also

(06:17):
want to talk about some of the vendors you're going
to have, because I see you really put a heavy endorsement.
If you put an endorsement on something you know, you
just don't do that so easily. I mean, you it's
a proven product before you put your endorsement on it.
And of course, uh, given your book A World Without Cancer,

(06:42):
and the last time you were on the show, that
is not something we talked about. We talked mostly about
the creature from Jack l Island. And if anybody doesn't
have that book, or if you haven't read it, by
all means, read it. It's a good one. I still
have my signed copy from you, so I appreciate that.
But that, yeah, World Without Cancer, that's a book. It

(07:04):
is also very popular. But you and I have never
talked about it. And how long ago was it that
you wrote that book?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Oh golly, that goes way back. I had to at
the copyright page, but I think it was back in
the nineteen sixties, maybe sixty four or something like that.
It was. It was the third book I wrote, and
that takes it back quite a distance. You know, like
so many of my topics, all of them. As a
matter of fact, I'm the last person in the world

(07:33):
you might think to be qualified to speak much less
right on any of those topics. Because I didn't study
any of these things in school, and you take something
like cancer and health, well, I'm not a doctor. Never
even thought about being a doctor. I thought I'm too
dumb for that. And besides, I didn't want to go
around looking in people's throats and other orifices, and yeah,

(07:58):
so appeal to me. But anyway, I got into these topics.
It's hard to don't even know. If somebody asked me
why I did any of these things that, I don't
know that I could really do a fair job of answering,
except to say that it was the accident of events
with the cancer book. I got into that topic because

(08:22):
a very good friend of mine at the time was
a doctor, a medical doctor. He's had a great practice
in the San Francisco area. Doctor his name was doctor
John Richardson, and he wound up treating cancer patients very
successfully and got into trouble with the authorities because although

(08:43):
he was saving lives like nobody else was doing, nevertheless
he was using something that was unapproved, untested, you know,
and didn't have the government the permission to use it
in all the ridiculous things, and they were trying to
take away his life licenses. Medical license, and he asked
for my help to write some articles about why he

(09:06):
was doing it, how this substance worked, and so forth.
I said, sure, John, I'll be glad to help you.
You're the doctor, you treat people, make them well. I'm
a writer. I write things and make them sick, whatever
it is, and I'll be glad to help. And but
little did I realize that. I thought it would take
me maybe well four or five days they scribbled something out,

(09:27):
but it led into a multi year process. I'm still
learning about healthcare and how the body works and how
nature and biology are should be in tune. And I
never thought I'd get into that field, but here I am,
and it turns out to be one of my best
selling books even to this day.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Well, you talked about, you know, whether it has something
to do with taking away your liberty, and you know
that does fall right into that field, if you will.
It's you know, he found your friend found something that works,
but it wasn't approved by the FDA, and so you know,

(10:08):
what do they what do they do? They go after him,
you know, and we we recently seen that with ivermectin
and hydroxychloric When you know it's.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Same formula and if it works, and if it interferes
with the cash flow a big pharma that has got
to be eliminated. And that's that's the reality. That's the
that's the the red pill, you might say, of that
whole topic.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm just I'm just waiting for the
television commercials to come out. Let's say, if you had
the COVID JAB you might be entitled to compensation. I'm
just waiting for that that.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Will happen because they got they got immunity from Congress.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Of course, yeah, they're not the patient, but the pharmaceutical
company patient didn't get any immunity against anything. It just
got the vaccine.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Wish that vaccine provided immunity, but I don't think it did.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
No, it doesn't. That's my view anyway, And a lot
of doctors and researchers will stand behind that, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
It's It's something I'm glad we brought this up too,
because I remember when I was at the Red Pill
last year and you had doctor J. J. Cooey you know,
before about a month before the red Pill even started
in South Dakota there, I uh, you know, I looked
him up and did a little research, and here he is.

(11:40):
There's a video of him on YouTube having a debate
with somebody who I think shouldn't have a license to
practice medicine. And doctor Cooey just used the proper term,
the most upfront proper term for the vaccine I think
there is, which it's not a vaccine. It's a inspection.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
The transfection. That's what it is.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, And in simpler terms, it's an injection of toxic material.
Now that simplifies it a bit, and you might add
one more word to that, very toxic material.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Oh, don't doubt it.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Did I see now that they're removing mercury from vaccinations, Well.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
They've said they said they did that years ago, but
they lied. They made some adjustments. In some cases they
did remove some of it, but in most cases the
mercury was still there. But they said, oh, we removed
that a long time ago. Congress or somebody passed the law,
and they obeyed by the terms of the law. But
as usual, these people have strong influence over the politicians.

(12:47):
And though they said, oh, we got a law that
prevents it, but they write the law in a way
that there's a little trap door in the back and
so their friends can still do what they were doing
before without violating the law. And I see that happening
over and.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Well, they put it in there in such a way
it becomes silently active. You know, it doesn't go on
effect to a certain date. So people had long forgotten
about it suddenly become that active, and and nobody's aware
that it's become active. And there you go.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, a lot of tricks they're exports. That's their profession.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
And John, we better say this before we go to break.
If you're watching this on YouTube, you're and you're watching live,
this is your only top opportunity to see this on YouTube,
because this show will be taken down from the YouTube
channels once it is over, because you know how it is.
When we get to talking about vaccines and big pharma,

(13:38):
they don't like it, and they put strikes on our channels. So,
I mean, it's kind of tough for them to catch
us while we're live, but once it's archived, they really
go after it.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
So they're still following Biden's censorships. Huh.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, Well they're working on that now. They have ai
as being developed so that they can predict what you're
going to say, and that you up before you say it.
That's what they want to do.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Really, yes, well about that. Well, also, now that they've
made a new rule on YouTube where you cannot display
firearms whatsoever, they'll they'll give you strikes, so.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
You can't display them, can't.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Display them, can't can't you can't hold them, you can't
shoot them. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
That's all for your protection, isn't it. Yes, But you know,
you gentlemen probably know better than anybody. What's the safest
place to be, the safest place to be to protect
yourself against criminals and robbers and so forth. A gun show, yeah, yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Or a gun shop?

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, a gun shop? Yeah, that worked.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Gun shops I go to they wear sight arms. They don't,
they don't play games. You don't go through to rob
a gun shop.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
One thing that these crooks can't stand is to have
their victim having a gun. That's all. It's a pretty
simple equation exactly.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
It's fight Scotus. You know, if we're on the subject
matter Scotis's rules mult favor of gun rights. I think
we got our guest has got a phone call.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, well, I just the receiver off the hook. I
forgets to disable it.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
So but they had ruled that that you're right to
keep them bare arms is an act of self defense.
It is for self defense. And they sit there trying
to deprive this of this all the time, with all
these rulings over ruling Congress. They never removed these laws.
They always keep them in place, even though they're unenforceable.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Well, yeah, that's if they have to get all the
guns out of the hands of the common people. That's
the only way they're going to keep this in perpetuity.
Of course, you know, it's a it's a deeper topic
than that, gentlemen, because nowadays it's different than the times
let's say the American Revolution, where there was the guns
or guns it depends how many had them. But the guns,

(15:50):
everybody had the same weapons. And you know, if you
grab your musket and you'd meet the British at the bridge,
and they got their muskets, and how many soldiers versus
your farmers, and then and the courage and the sharp
shooter and skills and so forth. But it was all
pretty even.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
But yes, yeah, they have wins.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
They have wounds. They won't face you face to face
with the gun. They'll send the drone over and blast
your house off the planet surface of the Earth. So
this is no longer an even battle, and some there's
a new element in this equation. So I'm all for
for right to bear arms. Don't get me wrong, you know,
I'm been an advocate for that for a long time.

(16:30):
But it's not enough just to have your your forty
five or your your thirty eight special or whatever, or
we're all loaded to go for them to come to
your front door. They're not coming to your front door.
They're gonna fly overhead and just blast you off the planet.
An army after you.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
There's about a couple guys shoot drones down now.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, and well, the point I'm trying to make here
is that it's no longer the same game that it
used to be.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Oh yeah, they were their advantage, You're right, it's not
fair advantage.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, they have electronic weapons. They can cook you, like
in a microwave at a distance. Just turn it, you know,
focus it on, you turn the volume up, and you
go whoop, and you're on fire. You're doing and they
can illuminate they say, crowds with that method, and indeed
they can. So the point I'm making is not to
create despair, but simply to show that this is not

(17:21):
where the real battle is going on today. The real
battle is going on for control of the power centers
of society, the political parties, you know, the media centers,
the school system, all of the things that determine the
political power and policies of the nation. That's what the
battle is going on. And if people are just waiting
for it to be who's got the most guns, they've

(17:42):
already lost. We've got to understand what the true nature
of the battle is today, and it's not guns.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Absolutely. Well, we're a little bit past the first quarter,
so we better get our first break out of the way.
But I do want to continue this discussion when we
come back in a minute, because I've got some things
on my mind that i think we should discuss as well.
So with that said, we'll be back in about one
and a half minutes. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we

(18:13):
are back, joined by g. Edward Griffin. And we were
talking about firearms for a little bit there, and of
course something that's been lingering in my mind too, and
I'm thinking back to your lecture that you held back
in nineteen sixty nine. Of course, if you want to
watch that, all you got to do is you go

(18:34):
to YouTube you can look for it, or if you
go to my previous interview with Ed here just looked
on the Bridy unchanneled that was from I think it
was from late June of twenty twenty three, because immediately
following the interview, I played that lecture and the lecture
you gave about communism and basically how it worms its

(18:59):
way into the system, and it's I'm just amazing. I mean,
you know, you you talked about some things that are happening,
and you talked about him fifty sixty years before they
started happening. One book that you recommended, of course, was Color,
Communism and Common Sense by Manning Johnson, and I went

(19:22):
I actually went out and I bought that book myself
and I have my copy, and you if you recommend it,
it's worth a read. And that's that is a good
book to read. I recommend anyone else get that. And
I'm I'm thinking about the Democratic. The Democrat they have
running for mayor in New York City, what's his name,

(19:44):
Zohran or whatever his name is, And he's not hiding
the fact that he wants to bring forth communism into
this country, not to mention total what do they call it,
Sharia law or whatever is bring Islam in and some

(20:05):
of the things he's talking about. Free stuff for everyone,
but no guns for anyone. It's like, you know, and
you talked about this baking nineteen sixty nine. Here it
is happening, especially that guy running for office. What are
your thoughts, Well, you.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Pretty well described it. My thoughts. The intonation of your
voice already told us what you talk about. The whole deal.
And it's pretty bad. It's pretty sour, pretty grim, And
it's just part of a part of the fact that
I mentioned a moment ago that the warfare today is different.
It used to be about guns and bayonets and who's

(20:44):
got the biggest bombs. Now it's who's got control over
the communications system, the educational system, and that's over the
minds of the people. It's psychological warfare. Now. That's how
a guy like that can come on and start advocating,
vocating communism or the sharial sharial law or anything else

(21:06):
where people have to be subjugated by some higher authority.
That's the essence of it. You have to look beyond
the titles of the names. And by the way, that's
something I've always been very concerned about, is that people
get too bogged down with these names. They need to
look beneath the names, peel off the labels to see
what's underneath them. And if they do that, as I

(21:27):
did many years ago, they'll be surprised as I was,
that they're all the same. Basically, all of these isms,
the communism, fascism, Nazism, socialism, any system that is based
on the concept of powerful government and obedient servants as citizens,

(21:48):
are all pretty much the same. Regardless of the little decorations.
You know, the old lady is still the old lady,
whether she's got to make up on or not. You
can put the had on and the old man do.
By the way, there's not a slur against your ladies,
please but believe me, But I mean, you can decorate
things up so they look like they're different or what
they ain't, as the song goes, But when you look underneath,

(22:11):
you find the same thing. And I discovered that what
you find is the thing called collectivism. They're all everything
is based on that. There's one of my hopes is
that because of my work and others, that we can
get people to start using that word instead of all
these other words communists, fascists, Nazis, socialists. They might fight
each other for dominance, but they're not over ideas. They

(22:34):
all believe the same thing. They just want to be
in charge, not the other guy. Once you get that picture,
you realize that this funny alternative that we're being offered, Well,
who you're going to vote for? You know, are you
going to be a right winger or a left winger?
They're opposites, right, Well, in truth they're not. They're not.
When you look at what's the extreme right, that's fascism,
what's the extreme left, that's Nazi, I mean that's communism.

(22:57):
Put the two together. And I did that once I
got all the works of Karl Marx and vladimer ilitch
Lenin and studied them and made all the outlines of
what their principles were that I compared them to mindcom
with Adolf Hitler made an outline of his prince. Put
the two together. They were exactly the same, I mean
exactly the same every point, which you which is not
surprising when you realize that the word Nazi, for example,

(23:20):
is the German abbreviation for the National Socialist Party of Germany.
Nazism is socialism, and they even tell you right in
their name, but we don't know that. We don't learn
that in school. So I'm off track a little bit there,
but it's part of it's part of the idea that
our warfare today is for the minds and the convictions

(23:41):
of our people. And were being fed garbage in many cases,
and it's decorated to look good like good food. It's
garbage and we like it. Oh well, we want some
more of that.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
It sort of might that what you're saying reminds me
of social Security, because when they first built social Security,
where they sold to the American people, was going to
be continuation of your income so you can retire with dignity,
including inflation. So anytime inflation went up, so did your
social Security. But you were going to get you out
of your paycheck. But somewhere along the line, I don't
know exactly what time period they decided that they could

(24:17):
afford so security. Moore, They didn't expect people to live
as long as they started living. They thought they were
just going to die off somewhere their mid sixties and
only paying for a few years, so suddenly becomes supplement
for your retirement. So a lot of people retired they
were going to have a retirement, realized they didn't have
a retirement off of themselves. Twisted and the win. But
that's government for you. That's why you have to question

(24:38):
authority and never trust government, because they will promise you
all on the world, but never deliver.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Of course, they delivered, but not what they promised.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
They promised.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
If you read their stuff. If you read their stuff,
they publish books and give speeches and write essays on
their beliefs. They'll tell you right out front what they
really are doing. But nobody he gets to read that
stuff that's hidden from the public view. You get to
read what the media interprets it to be and they
tell you what to think about it. But if you
go to the like I spent months as a young

(25:11):
man down to the communist bookstore down in Los Angeles
on Larchmont Street called the People's Bookshop. I was curious
about what these guys believed in. I went down, I
bought up all their books and I read them. Well,
all you have to do is read the stuff and
you realize that it's all and they admit it. It's deception.
Vladimir Lenin, for example, one of his famous quotes is,

(25:31):
he's a comrades. Promises are like pie crushs made to
be broken. All right, this is the whole philosophy of
communism promise, and not just communist, all politicians, it's universal,
all politicians, if that's what they are. Not statesmen, but
they're just politicians to get elected, gets their hand on

(25:53):
the tax dollars, and to determine who goes to jail,
as long as it's not them. Those are the politicians
that I'm talking about. That's most they You know, it's
all the same. You can call it democrats, republicans, conservatives, liberals,
right wing, left wing, Nazis, communists, socialists, moderates. I don't care.
Get rid of the names. Look at the principles that

(26:14):
they believe in what they do, and then you shall know.
That's what I'm to do with our movement.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
So exactly, did George watch it not for warn us
in his farewell address?

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yes, especially fattnglemen in foreign wars and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
oh yeah. The old guys back there, it's amazing how
much they knew. Of course, they had an advantage that
we don't have. They did not have public schools.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yes, they had the advantage, Yeah, I do. They were
conditioned to think they were weren't conditioned.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
They had to do their own thinking and reading.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
And getting back to what you were saying there, red too.
You know, we got the isms, the top isms, if
you will, are the communism, Nazi whatever that list. You know,
that's that's basically the top of the line. But what
lights the fuse are the smaller isms racism, sexism, uh

(27:13):
what whatever it kind of is. It's so it takes
the small isms to ignite the big isms, and and
what a mess we get once it gets going.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yes, yes, and that's an interesting point you make. I'm
not sure I would want to stand behind this in
the long term, but the idea just came to my
mind that the big isms you're talking about, like communism
versus socialism or collectivism and individualism, yes, had to do
with ideals or ideas. What is the ideal good or

(27:44):
bad sort of thing. But you come to these other isms,
like you know, racism, feminism or whatever, those are just
words to divide people against each other exactly. Idea, there's
no idea in there at all, except that we're better
than you, you know, to get people fighting against each other,
so we get divided because let's face it, we outnumber

(28:05):
them by a huge number. But they know that, and
so they're always trying to get us fighting against each other,
Catholics against Protestants, Christians against Jews, black against white, males
against females, rich people against poor people, you know, whatever
it is. They got us fighting on something. So we're
so busy fighting each other. It's why the Scottish and
we joke about that. My wife is Scottish and she

(28:27):
always says, well, if we didn't fight each other, clan
to clan, we could have beat Britain, you know. But
the British knew that, and they actually sent spies and entrepreneurs,
not but spies and operatives into into Scotland to get
the tribes fighting against each other so they couldn't unite
against Great Britain. That's what's the strategy that's going on today.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Divine Guard.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
But it's not just a vision. It's fear. I want
to keep you in a state of an emotional state
of mind.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
It's actually emotional, especially anger. If they can put hatred
into that. Then they got you.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Well fear as long as they get you're a hatred, yes,
as you're an emotional thinker, they can control and manipulate.
So divide, drive the fear in, and then manipulate, and
they got you, and that's what it's all about. Then
they turn you into chapel property. A lot of people
don't realize today you're being used. You just don't know
how well.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
That's right. You become, you become a robot. They talk
a lot about robots. You become a true genuine biological robot.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yes, yes, Anyway, we are at the bottom of the hour,
so we're gonna go ahead and take our bottom of
the hour break. In fact, you're probably gonna recognize some
of the affiliates that we have here and those that
you and I both recommend a lot. So with that said,
we'll be back in about just about three and a

(29:52):
half minutes. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back
in life. Like I said, ed there in that are intermission,
as I like to call it. I'm pretty sure you
recognize a lot of the products. Of course, that cardio
miracle was something I was introduced to back last year

(30:14):
when I was in in Rapid City. And I'll tell
you what, I don't regret that I take that stuff
every day. Oh it's fantastic. Yeah, and you've given your
stamp of approval on it as well. Well.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I don't often get my approval or recommendation anything, but
I think it was something really affected my life, and
maybe I have an obligation to say something about it.
It's not a commercial arrangement at all. But I try
and not do recommendations because I'm always afraid that, well,
just because I recommended it and I think it's good,

(30:54):
what if it's not good for them, and then they'll
be mad at me because I recommended it. But anyway,
Parreio America is one of those products that I did.
I tried it out a long time ago with a
great deal of skepticism and blowed me down. It lowered
my blood pressure and did a lot of other things
for me. And that's when I got serious about studying

(31:15):
it to see how it worked. And the deeper I
had dug into it, the more I realized that there
is science behind it. It's not just wishful thinking and
the placebo effect. It really has a scientific basis for it.
So I decided, yeah, I'll even put it in my
catalog and say, if you want to know where you
get this stuff, here's where you get it. And so

(31:38):
I'm glad to put my approval to that product.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Absolutely. So coming up this week and of course July
twelfth and thirteenth, we have the Red Pill Expo in Tulsa,
Oklahoma at the Renaissance Hotel and Convention Center. Familiar names
that are going to be speaking, of course, Alex Newman

(32:04):
I have. I don't think you've had an event without him.
He's he's always there and he's got something interesting to say. Alex.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Alex is the one guy that's spent on every one
of them so far.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Yes, other familiar names that I've seen there before. Of
course I met Michelle Melndez in in Rapid City, had
her on the show here a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
She she's always got interesting, uh stuff to say, very
interesting stuff, mind you.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Uh. These are about the phony fires. I mean that's
more than interesting. That's essential information.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Yes, it is. All of it's essential. And that's why
when I had Major Tom Havland on this show a
couple of months ago, and he he gave me his presentation.
I I I said, and I said it right here
on the show. I said, Tommy, I think you should
see about possibly speaking at the Red Pill because people

(32:59):
are gonna want to hear this what you got to say.
So you know, I sent the emails you Carlen, and
what's the other gentleman's name that slips my mind? Ken?
I think, oh yeah, Ken. And it's like, if you
can have tom as a speaker, you're gonna like what
he has to say. And I'm so glad that you

(33:22):
did add him to the agenda.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Well yeah, how could you not. I mean, it's something
that not many people really have the courage to do.
It's not that he stood up firm for his principles
and didn't mind being controversial. But for those of you
who listening and not sure what this is all about,
it's not that he was a retired major that he

(33:46):
was now in the employee of the United States Air
Force on a big airport, air Force base in the
civilian capacity, and the commander of the whole base announced
that everybody on base and that was what thousands of
people had to take the shots or get fired or
have to leave, even including the soldiers, you're out, you know.

(34:08):
And he responded with an email basically, shame on you, General,
how dare you to take away my right or try
to take away my right to do this and the
other thing. And he now he just sent the email
out to the general that he sent copies of it
to every single person on the base. So he called

(34:30):
out the commanding general to his face in front of everybody.
And as he says, within twenty minutes of sending the email,
he got a call advising that he'd been fired. Well,
he knew that was coming, and so that was I
thought that was really something people talk about. Stand up
for your rights, you know, stand firm, speak up, and

(34:50):
so aren't they willing to go all the way like that?
And so I just thought that was firing story.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Well, I mean he was he already spent twenty almost
thirty years in the Air Force, so he was close
to mandatory retirement to begin with, but he cut it
short by speaking out. And no, he wasn't laid off.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
He was fired, you can right booted right out boom yep.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
So of course, and you got to realize what he
sacrificed for that, because because he did that, you know.
I mean what he was what maybe two years that
the most going to serve, and he was going to
be handed his discharge papers and given a pension for
the rest of his life. He he he, he brushed

(35:41):
that all aside. Basically, you know, he he's not receiving
that pension because he did what he did. But he
felt that what he did was right at at that sacrifice,
and you got to admire that.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
That's the whole reason we want him on there, because
there's a big difference between talking of something and walking
the talk, and that's what he did. He walked the talk.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
So anybody remember the name of this general because it
says a lot about his character here.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, that's he'll mention it. I've forgotten that. I asked
him the same question and he answered, but I don't
remember it either.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
I think he said too, and I don't recall. But
I'm sit here thinking people should know because it's a
substandard character. Truth hurts. He was called out on it.
He couldn't deal with it, so he fired the man
in retaliation.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
No character, And you just know you're guessing that the
general probably thought this bugger is right. But I'm the
general here and if I don't do something very drastic
to get rid of him, then I'm next, you know,
the sort of thing. So the General wasn't ready to
put anything on the line, whether he believed it or not,
but I doubt if he would. It's just my guess.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yes, of course, looking at the agenda too, I see,
I mean another name on their doctor, Brian Artists. He's
he's pretty well popular with the red Pill ex poem
in fact, but I've never had a chance to meet him,
shake his hand and talk to him. But I'm going
to take advantage of that while I'm down there. Y Yeah,

(37:15):
names that I don't recognize. Mark Grennan, missionary in Latin America,
was arrested at the request of the US government. Oh boy,
I want to hear what he's got to say.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, well he was he was committing the unpardonable sin
in down in Latin America. He was saving lives by
the thousands by treating them with an unapproved drug or treatment,
and in fact, each treatment costs about a penny. Now,

(37:54):
if you're in charge of the multi trillion dollar pharmaceutical
business industry or company, what is your reaction going to be?
If you're a corporate manager, You're going to do everything
in your power with your political influence to get the
government to do something to shut this guy up.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Oh yes, yes, it's always better to get.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
The government do that. That's what you spend the money
on it by giving them, the congressman and the senators
those donations. That's what you're spending it for, so that
when you call on the phone and you want to favor,
they do it for you. This is the general pattern.
So yeah, that's it's again it's always the money. So
when you consider that he is saving thousands and thousands

(38:35):
of lives from diseases and conditions which even today are
still considered to be untreatable, untreatable or you can treat them.
Of course, I take it back. The whole purpose of
the pharmaceutical industry is to treat, treat, treat, and treat
some more. Treat to the last day of your life.
As long as you keep buying our drugs, treat, treat, treat, treat,

(38:58):
never cure, because you know the old saying, if you
if you care the patience, you lose a client.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Exactly. And that's uh. That brings me to the next
person that I'm really excited to see again doctor Lee Merritt. Now,
I'm just gonna tell you five minutes talking to her,
and she changed my views on on the whole vaccine thing.
I mean, and I'm not just talking to COVID vaccine,

(39:27):
but she she got me thinking. And I did my research,
and uh, you know, I looked into communities like the
Amish community and the Jehovah's Witnesses, and uh, whereas you know,
the Jehovah's Witnesses, I'm whereas I might not agree with
all their religious views, mind you, they don't vaccinate their children.
And I'm seeing that within uh the Jehovah's Witnesses, they

(39:50):
don't have very many autistic kids, you know, and uh
there's pretty high uh immune systems among those people. And
of course the Amish, well they speak for themselves right there.
So doctor Merritt just gave me a whole just five

(40:12):
minutes with her, and my view changed, and I'm really
excited to see her.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Well. Of course, she's one of her more popular speakers,
and by popular demand, she's always coming back, not always,
but almost all the time. And I'm always looking for
new faces because I don't want people to think, oh,
I've heard that person speak. I know what they're going
to say. So we require that if a previous speaker
comes back for another time, we require that they have

(40:40):
a new topic. I mean completely new, not the same
old thing again. Well, doctor Merritt has got so many
topics she could talk about it could go on for
many years. She is very well read, and she has
interests well beyond medicine. She talks about some ancient history things,
talks about the occult. She's got deep Ollie Johnson, very

(41:01):
interesting topics other than medicine.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Absolutely, So what we're gonna do. We're gonna go ahead
and take our final commercial break, which means this is
the commercial I have for the Red Pill Expo that
I've been playing for the past I think six months now,
and we'll be back to wrap things up with g
Edward Griffin right after this. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I'm

(41:28):
excited to be there. Of course, if you cannot make
it to Tulsa, that's no excuse. In fact, if you
can't make it to Tulsa, it's probably easier on your wallet.
But you can. All you need is the Internet and
watch the live stream and listen to what these experts
have to say, because I'll tell you Ed just doesn't

(41:50):
book just anybody to speak at the Red Pill Expo.
He books people that know what they're talking about and
bring essential information to the table for everyone. And yes,
I'm like, like you said, do you're you're about as
excited as I am.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I'm sure, yes, i am. It's always exciting for me.
Of course, I have a little bit of fear wrapped
into that because every time, as the data approaches, I think,
will work. Where's all the action? I know, you know
we're running a little slow, aren't we. But always the
last two weeks, ten days, by all of a sudden,
these tickets start going out. People one in, they want
to get that booth in there, Exhibitors are coming from everywhere,

(42:34):
phone calls from overseas, Uh can we can we land?
What's the nearest airport? You know? All the action always
happens in the last few days. So that's the exciting part,
And the worry part is about going now.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Yes, yes, indeed, and uh yeah, just a few a
few more guests. I'll bring up here too, the people
that I I haven't seen before. It looks like here
you have a young lady named Mindy Patterson. She's the
little leader of a political movement in the name of

(43:09):
humane treatment for animals, which kind of caught my attention,
but I'm pretty sure it goes a little bit further
than that.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Oh, it goes very much further than that. Her basic
message is that the humane aspect of concern for the
condition and comfort of the animals is a complete facade.
It's a cover for their real mission, which is to
justify the destruction of the human food supply. They're really

(43:43):
anti human people, especially anti people who are citizens of
productive countries. What they want to bring down. They want
to destroy America for sure, and one of the way
is to do so is to starve everybody all of
a sudden. If all of your food source centers blow
up up and have accidental fires, and if they're not
farmers are not allowed to use fertilizer, and a lot

(44:06):
of put keep putting restrictions on transportation of certain types
of food, and then say, oh, you can't do this
because it's not humane to the animals. Whatever it is
to destroy the food supply is a step forward toward
famine in America, and a famine strict in America is
not a strong America, and having a weak America is

(44:27):
what these people really want.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
You know. There's something interesting that I should bring up too.
I just I found out about this maybe oh about
six months ago, but never really talked about it here
on the show, and that is I remember that I
think it was Utah. I can't remember exactly where it was,
but there was a bee farm and a bunch of

(44:52):
punk kids broke into this area where they had all
these beehives and destroyed them, and of course the kids
were charged with vandalism and that was it. But rumor
has it that these kids were actually paid off to
commit this crime.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Well I wouldn't be surprised, but you'd have to prove that,
but I would. That's the kind of thing that these
people do, by the way, So even though we don't
know for certain on any particular incident like that, and
maybe some people do know about that, but we know
that's the kind of thing they do, and some of
it has been exposed and people have been arrested and
convicted for those crimes.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
Yeah, yeah, I mean bees are officially an endangered species
and they're having farms on it for bees. You know.
I remember I was always trying to avoid getting stung.
When I was a kid and they were so plentiful,
but I didn't know how essential bees were to our
food supply.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah, you kill off and of course the five G
towers are doing a pretty good job of killing off
the bees. Is that that connection now is very firmly established,
not only killing off the bees, but a lot of
the wildlife and the birds to the dropping dead when
the towers go up and all of a sudden, all
the birds are on the ground dead, and well, what happened? Hey,

(46:19):
what what could this be? Well? Did you look at
the five G towers? Oh, that couldn't be it? No,
what else? What could have happened? What it is? They
never look at things high.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Powered microwave vinergy couldn't possibly do any damage to.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
The No, no, we won't look at that because we
need that. It's all flying warfare again. I'm back to
that again. Gentlemen, it's all in the mind. If you
can explain away the obvious, and you're you're a robot
in your own mind.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
It don't matter of how you think.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Yeah, another gentleman, that you're going to have there is
somebody who I know he's attended the Red Pill X before.
I believe he was there in Salt Lake City in
twenty twenty two, but he wasn't there as a speaker. Well,
he's going to be there as a speaker this time.
We're talking about William Jasper, who's also a fellow Ida

(47:14):
ho and and he's part of the John Birch Society.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah. Actually Bill Jasper now is the president of the
John Bird Society. Yes, a hogge and watched his career
over the years, but now he's president of the society. Well,
he'll have a In fact, I spoke with him on
his phone this morning about his presentation and everything, and

(47:40):
it's going to be a good one.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
It will be, yes, Yes, So I'm just gonna let's see,
we got we got a few minutes left here. That's
gonna briefly read because I really don't want to present
my screen because then I have problems with the settings
if I do that. But we're looking. I'm just gonna
go over the agenda. Of course, I'm looking at the website.

(48:04):
We got you, uh G, Edward Griffin, and we've got
Alex Newman, Michael yn somebody I've I've never met him,
but I've heard him speak before on other shows and podcasts,
including John B. Wells, Uh, Michelle Melndez of course, who
I'm very familiar with, Uh, Mark Mark Grinnan. But I

(48:26):
can't wait to hear what he's got to say. Uh
Doctor Bryant, artist, Major Tom Haviland, Richard Grove, somebody I've
not heard before, but uh, given uh the fact he's
an historian who's exposing the deep state, that'll I'd like
to hear what he has to say. And it looks
like here we got you got a pair here, Uh

(48:48):
what Sean Terrio and uh and Glenn Uh met her
there they're gonna Are they gonna be on stage together?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Her?

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (48:59):
There, they're good good friends, are pretty much in the
same business in a way. They're competitors, but they work
very closely together. So I thought I found that kind
of interesting that they here, they are friendly competitors and
they decide to go on stage together. Great idea.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
He also got to doctor Lee Merritt, William Jasper, Mindy Patterson. Uh,
uh probably gonna butcher this gentleman's name here, Don Grande,
uh Bet Grande, and uh Teresa and Zella yep. And

(49:38):
then of course you're EMC usually. Uh, Robert Scott Bell.
He's a good guy too.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Oh yeah, he's an endless source of topics, you name it.
He's got some valuable information to offer. Yeah, that's why
we have him as our MC. Sometimes you hit a
dead spot in the program and you have to wait
for something. Well, Robert Scott Bell just turns the button
on his chest and he goes into something that's Oh,
that's very interesting. We should have a presentation on that.

(50:09):
So that's why he's there.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Yes, indeed, so you can get your tickets by going
to Redpillexpo dot O RG if you're in the Tulsa area.
Of course, if you can't make Tulsa, check the check
out the live stream once again Redpillexpo dot O RG.
And with that said, we are just about out of time.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Ed.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
I want to thank you very much for your time
here on the show and I'm looking forward to seeing
you down there in Tulsa.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Well, thank you, gentlemen. I'm so grateful to have you
interested in our project and I know you've you've helped
us over the long period and I appreciate that so much,
and I'm sure that's why you have such a great
audience because you guys joke around some I've noticed, but
you always have really big nuggets.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
Of goal to deliver. Yes, I've got to have a
sense of humor that that always helps. Okay, So with
that said, ladies and gentlemen, coming up next week will
be joined by the one who calls himself El Conservador

(51:18):
out of Texas. That's George Rodriguez, and he's going to
be talking about a lot of the liberalism and the
border crisis that seems to have caled him down for
now in the state of Texas. So that's what's on
tap for next week. ED once again, God bless you,
Thank you so much, and I look forward to seeing you.

(51:40):
Bye bye. And with that said, ladies and gentlemen, thank
you very much for tuning in to Patriot Confederation. God
save the Republic of the United States of America. We're
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