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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Every patriot has an obligation to question authority. Those who
are honest are not concerned with your watchful vigilance, and
those with integrity are not concerned with your discernment. Every
American is obligated to voice their concerns and stand up
for their freedoms and liberties.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
One nation under God, invisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
We are the men in the arena.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We are the Patriot Confederation. We live back down from by.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We're un feed Americans.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
All right, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Patriot Confederation. For
the fifteenth of July twenty twenty five, I'm will host
Dad Billy from Twin Falls IFO just returned yesterday from Tulsa, Oklahoma,
right off the heels of the Red Pill Expo, and
what an exciting event it was. I'll be having more
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details on that as time when I released the videos
for the interviews that I did, I will just pay
attention to my ex of course at bearded patriots or
patriots bearded excuse me, and just watch for that.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I am joined by John Grovener out of Nashawa and
New Hampshire, how's it.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Going over there? You miss Camp Constitution? How dare you?
I did?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I did miss Camp Constitution. I didn't even know what
was going on. I saw no circulars or ads for it,
and I'm sorry I missed it. But other than that,
things are going up better here than it did for
Pam BONDI after a certain cabinet meeting.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yes, you know what, I haven't even heard of that
because I've been busy, you know, off the heels of
the Red Pill and trying and trying to get other
things in order as I came back home, So I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Even know what's going on there to We'll have to
touch on that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And I thought about calling you when I found out
Camp Constitution was in New Hampshire, but and now I
realized I should have, so you can have possibly been there.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, it had been amazing, man. I'll definitely mark it down,
look for it next year, see if they got another
event going on.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
And joining us this week, of course, we have Elkinservador
George Rodriguez joining us out of the great state of Texas.
Thank you very much for joining us out, are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Very good?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Thank you for inviting me?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Absolutely absolutely so the way I discovered you. Of course,
as I was going through the websites of Salem media
channels and I found that you were on the answer
station in UH in San Antonio. Yet you had a
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show there, Elkinservador, and it was very good to listen
to it. That's when I decided to reach out and
UH so we could have a conversation.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Thank you for inviting me. I really enjoy this is
a real pleasure. I've heard a lot about you guys already.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Oh really, oh really, all right? You know what.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
At the Red phil Expo too, Alex Newman said something
to me about how he's seeing my name just.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Pop up more and more and more out there, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Like, oh, somebody watching, somebody's watching you.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, And I'm like, I'm not looking. I'm not looking
for fame. Here.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
We got at least three viewers.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, yes, indeed, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
We don't do this for the fame. We do this
because we love the country and we want to detox
society from the lies they've been told to the mainstream media.
And I also want to encourage them to detox their
bodies from the chemicals and the poisons that are in.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Our process foods, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I mean, I'm kind of I kind of put on
a gut myself over the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I am going to get rid of it.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I have made the commitment to clean up my system
and I started today.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So you've got a problem with being fat and happy?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Now I want to be happy and I don't need
to be fat with it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
There's nothing wrong with being fat if people are fat,
but there's definitely nothing wrong with better health.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I mean, it's seriously, we're look the stuff we're being served,
whether we buy it at the grocery stores or at McDonald's,
we're being poisoned. It's time to wake up and uh
take take more focus in our health for real.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Maha baby Maha.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yes exactly. I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
But we stood up against the nonsense that's been going
on for decades.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
So, Uh, George, or should I say el conservator, I
can't pronounce my rs very well.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
You don't have one.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Yeah, you don't have to roll a single R. You
don't have to roll, so don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
So before we get into everything I watched you go
ahead and uh and uh, let the give the listeners
a bit of background on yourself and of course the show.
I'm not sure if you're still doing your show because
I haven't seen an update, but at least the things
you've been doing over the past, I should say, a
few decades, because you're I mean, it's not like you're
(05:57):
a red pilled You've been lifelong.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, I have. I was born here in Senate. I
was born in Texas, born in Laredo, Texas, but raised
in San Antonio. The whole family has been in the
United States for four generations now, on my mother's side,
on my father's side, they've been here since before Texas
Texas was Texas. And I became a die hard conservative
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when I served a two year Mormon Michigan in Mexico,
and I thought I was kind of like being deported
because I had been born and raised in Mexican culture.
But when I got to Mexico, I realized, Nope, I'm
an American. I missed my fried chicken. Not only an American,
a Southern American. I missed my fried chicken. I missed
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my football, I missed I missed watermelons. I missed uh,
just being able to be free. You know, I really
think that for young people to understand and appreciate what
freedom is and what this country is, they have to
travel abroad and see what it's like live for a
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while in a foreign country so they can see it.
Then after that, I graduated from college, and I got
myself involved in the Reagan campaign in nineteen seventy nine
and in nineteen eighty and I ended up in nineteen
eighty one going to Washington, d C. With the Reagan
Transition team. I worked in the White House for a
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little bit, then I went over to work at the
Justice Department with Edmese and with Brad Reynolds, the Assistant
Attorney General, and I was there working on issues related
to immigration, related to civil rights, trying to turn back
affirmative action, reverse discrimination as I call it. And I
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was there until the Reagan had administration left, and then
I stayed behind and I worked in the Bush administration,
but this time I worked at HUDD for Congressman Jack
Camp who became the Secretary of HUD. And I worked
there for eight years, or for four years, and then
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I stayed behind and worked in Capitol Hill for another
eight years. And then when George W. Came in, I
worked with him, and then finally eventually I ended up
retiring and come back coming back to San Antonio. I
was minding my own business in San Antonio. Retired when
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I was elected Tea Party president in twenty fourteen, and
I ended up going back to d C quite a
bit to testify and to speak, and then I started
doing a podcast with a friend of mine. Eventually we
did independent podcasting, and then eventually I ended up on
(09:02):
the Salem Network, and I was on the Salem Network
till this past January. I am doing a podcast again,
but I'm doing much more writing and public speaking. I'm
doing a lot more traveling. Anybody in Idaho or in
New Hampshire that wants that wants a speaker, I'm more
than happy to come out and speak. But I continued
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the battle that I've been waging for the past for
the past four years, has been about the open border.
Being a South Texan, the open border has always been
a problem since the border was created, and now, unfortunately,
the open border has moved into our suburbs, into our cities,
into our backyard. And it's not only a question of
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stopping people at the border, now it's removing them, removing
these millions of people, and unfortunately we've got the situation
with the Democrats and the liberals, the leftists who are
doing every thing they can to impede that. I fortunately
have also become close friends with Tom Holman. I am
on his uh bordered nine to one one foundation. I'm
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on the board. I don't communicate as much as I
used to with Tom. I don't want to bother him.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I hear he's busy.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I yeah, I hear he's kind of busy. But still
as as as a member of the board of Border
nine one one, I am very very active and speaking
out and informing people. I lately have been doing a
lot of Spanish language interviews on Univision and Telemundo, which
has been very very eye opening for me because those
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the Spanish language networks have historically been so leftist, so
pro open border. Uh and now because of the heat
from the Trump administration and what's been happening with ordinary
Americans who are fed up with the open border, they
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are starting to be a little bit more middle of
the road, but still not as much as they should be. However,
get I get on TV a lot, and I speak
out against immigration, illegal immigration. I also talk a lot
about the importance of any immigrant assimilating and becoming an
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American in thought. And indeed, because you know, if you're
fleeing a country and you bring it with you, what's
the point of having left? You know exactly it is,
It's absolutely ridiculous. So the other thing about that I
also preach very very strongly, is that if you don't stop,
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if you don't stop rewarding, if you don't stop excusing
illegal behavior, whether it's illegal immigration or just uh petty theft,
you get more and you get worse bad behavior. And
that's what's been happening over the past four years. We
have allowed, we've excused it, we've allowed it. And you know, uh,
(12:15):
when it comes to domestic crime, we've got tons of
district attorneys that have have been funded by George Sorows
who are soft on crime in big cities, and they
don't do anything about uh, you know, they do nothing
about crime, and so they then they wonder why crime
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is high on the In the same token, uh, they
tried to defund the police, either directly or behind the scenes.
And those are the things that I constantly speak out about.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yeah, and and lately too is these same so called
activists that are calling for gun control and what whatever
else they call for, are now calling for murder of
ICE agents. Yes, and may I you know, I'm going
to acknowledge one thing. ICE agents are doing their job.
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They're not the the almighty gets stop.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I don't know how many times I can uh emphasize that.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
But they are not killing any.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Of these people because they know that they're handling human beings.
And you that are calling for murder, are calling for
the murder of human beings. They're not killing anybody, but
yet you're calling for their murder.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Ye on than when it's when it's you doing something
right or like abortion or not abortion but guns, when
they want to take away your guns, then life matters.
But when it's their agenda, life doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
We have the situation here here in South Texas, UH.
For example, a few years ago that tragedy in Uvalue
at the school and immediately the Democrats led by Bethel
o' rourke, who's you know, a fake. He's like fake Pocahontas,
another fake Hispanic there, but he started screaming about blaming
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the guns and that Mount Mantra has been picked up
by Democrats in South Texas constantly that it's the guns,
the guns, the guns. Well, let me tell you what's
really outrageous now is that the flood that had just
occurred here in the Hill Country, about forty miles north
of me here, the flood is now being blamed on
climate change and immediately on Republicans who don't support climate change.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Oh yeah, I knew they.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
The insanity of these people.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Never waste a disaster, right yes here, here we are.
We are at the first quarter, So we're going to
take our first first break, and we got much more
to discuss. I don't know if we can get all
of this in an hour, but there's a lo to discuss.
So we'll be right back in about a minute and
a half. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back,
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joined by el Conservator George Rodriguez. And uh, I want
to backtrack to something you were talking about, uh, at
the at the beginning there when you're you were talking
about how some people should honestly go overseas and see
what it's like in another country. And you know, and
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I've been thinking a long time of course you have
like these BLM and antifas and all that that I
really want to push a communist regime in the United States.
I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you, you know, as far as
Hispanic people go, I mean, I've met there's probably fifty
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to fifty of people I met in my lifetime, whether
they're on the left or the right. But I'll tell
you what, not one Cuban that I've ever met. I mean,
even regardless they're Democrats or Republicans, they speak out strongly
against communism because whether they have lived the lifestyle, or
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their parents or their grandparents have lived the lifestyle under
Fidel Castro. So I mean, I mean, I have yet
to talk to a Cuban that has anything good to
say about Fidel Castro in a communist regime.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
That's true, That's true. It's very very I mean, there
has been a big division, historical division between Cubans and
Mexican Americans and Puerto Rican Americans because Mexican Americans have
always outnumbered everybody else. However, their experience as being immigrants,
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because they are immigrants, I mean, regardless of what Mexicans
will say, well, this.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Is used to be our land. Now it was.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
There's that keyword.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It was.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
And they feel that the immigrant experiences with them has
been a little bit more like the immigrant experience of
Jews and Italians of coming to a more Protestant Anglo
country and then having to adjust. Now, the big difference
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between Mexican Americans and Italians and all the other immigrants
that have come is that Mexico's right next door and
they've they've always kept coming. There's millions of them. On
the other hand, the Cubans have are just refugees like
everybody else that has fled a dictatorship, and they know
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what it's like to lose their country. They know what
it's like to be in a dictatorship. Many of them
suffered greatly under the dictatorship, at least their parents and
grandparents and continue, I mean, even the ones that have
come recently have come because there are no opportunities in
uh in Cuba, and so you know, the while Latinos,
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while a lot of people like to lump Latinos together,
I always ask which ones are you talking about? The
ones that that have been here since the pilgrims landed,
like the folks in New Mexico who have been who
were colonized, colonized Santa fe are the ones that just
crossed the border like the Venezuelans and the other ones
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that just crossed the border last in the last four years,
or are you talking about the Cubans? Are you talking
about the Puerto Ricans? I mean, who, who? Who are
you talking about? And they are all very very different.
One of the things, and let me explain real quick
that happened with the Trump victory here in South Texas
is that so many third fourth generation Mexican Americans. These
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are folks that have lost every thing, you know, all
the culture and language of Mexico. They are Americans for
all practical purposes, they are Americans. They had nothing good
to say about the open border. And while the Democrats
kept kept applauding and welcoming the these illegal aliens that
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were crossing daily, these thousands of them that were crossing daily. Uh,
local Mexican Americans were fed up, were just tired of it.
And I mean the competition with with illegal Mexicans has
always been a fact in South Texas. Mexican Americans from
the like I said, from the beginning of the border
have have competed for jobs with Mexicans coming across the border.
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And so there isn't really a love there. On the
other hand, it was wide open and everybody was coming,
and they were coming from places like Afghanistan, from El Salvador.
I mean, you know, these were not Juan and Juan
and Jose. They were coming across from Mexico. These wereeople
that were coming halfway around the world. In some cases,
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no no, no culture, nothing with them other than their
illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Some of them are Chinese. Oh yeah, a bunch of them.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I would if you go to my YouTube channel, George
Rodriguez and considered though, do you go to my wood
my my channel, you will see several interviews that I
did of of illegal aliens that were being serviced at
the at the migrant center as they called it here
in San Antonio. And you know, people from Venezuela, people
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from Haiti, people from uh Well, the Chinese wouldn't talk
to us because they couldn't.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Speak one other factory.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I got to throw in there too, George, is you know,
you take somebody from the Middle East and line them
up next to somebody from Mexico and the skin tone
is not very different. A lot of a lot of
the Islamic terrafts that have been coming across are Uh
into the United States. A lot of people still don't
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know this to this day, but they they traveled from
the Middle East to Mexico. First, correct, they learned to
speak Spanish, adopted Mexican IDs, and then crossed the border
because their allegiance is still to allah correct.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
And I ran into three of them that I tried
to interview, and I spoke to them first in Spanish
because I thought, you know, they're they're Venezuela and they're Mexican.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Who knows?
Speaker 5 (21:36):
And you're right, you know, I mean you put you
put a kafia on me. I mean, what do I
look like? I mean for crime out Well.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
They traded there, as I like to say, they traded
their turbans for sombreros.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Post nine to eleven, there was a couple of was
it three Latino guys in the airport. They thought they
were Mid East and that plane and wasld. Yeah, you're right,
they could be very easily mistaken.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, yeah, it is. It is.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
And these folks, well here in San Antonio again about
two years ago, at the height of the of the
open border, there was a guy that was a Middle
Eastern guy, I believe he was Iraqi, who was on
the terrorist watch list, who was stopped and identified in
San Diego, but he made his way to San Antonio
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and he was arrested here and identified only because he
was stopped because he had a malfunctioning headlight. He was
stopped by the police. The police, he didn't have a
driver's license. They ran an ID on him, Homeland Security
identified him and then released him. And I'm not sure
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they ever caught him again. But you know, it was clearly.
You know, when you have I legal aliens who refused
to identify themselves and have no ID, you got to
ask yourself, what is this all about?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well, you know, it's kind of ironic because you and
I have to go out and get the real ID. Yes, yeah,
well these guys are moving around the country with no ID.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I couldn't even board the plane this last weekend without
my passport because I don't have I have my ID,
but that's not expired yet, but it's.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Not a real idea, as they say.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
So I had to use my passport, which I've got
one of you know, I've got my passport book and
I got a passport card. And since I was still
traveling within the continental of the United States. My passport
card worked just fine.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Correct, Yeah, it is. It's a this administrator, this Biden administration,
turned everything upside down completely and totally. I worked on
the nineteen eighty six law legislation, the Immigration ref Form
Act IRKA as it was called, and there were several
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provisions in there that were initially started but then thrown
out the window, and they have never been enforced, for example,
or really strongly enforced. Should I say, for example, the
issues of not allowing illegal aliens to work. I mean
that has been completely thrown out the window.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
And one of.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
The great anxieties that liberals have with ICE is that
now they're going to places and arresting people for working illegally,
and they will be finding the employer. Well, you know,
that should have been going on for the past thirty years,
forty years, and now all of a sudden, it's you know,
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they're upset because the law is being enforced. And one
of the biggest, biggest opponents to it, unfortunately, is big business.
The Chamber of Commerce has always been opposed to it.
And you know, you've got big businesses like big tech
businesses who are who always want to import foreigners to
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work in certain industries, not to mention the agriculture industry,
of course, and wants to import aliens to work. But
you know, one thing is to import an immigrant or
an alien temporarily, but another thing is to let them
come in illegally and then hire them illegally. So you know,
apparently they don't know the word of the word illegal
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and the definition of the word illegal.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
And what you're talking about here is coming from a
party that's supposed to be against slavery, supposed to be
for for justice and fairness for everybody, so on and
so forth. Usually that's the idea about communism or socialism,
is that everybody's on the same plateau, and they want
to allow this to happen to corporations appreciate this to
happen because it drives down wages. And these people don't
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know labor laws. These people don't know where they stand
with these people, so they get a lot of abuse
that they normally wouldn't have to put up with if
they knew.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Whetherwise, you're right.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I did a study. I did it in a study
in nineteen eighty five in preparation for the nineteen eighty
six law. I did a study where I went personally
and interviewed folks in California growers, workers and various agencies.
And here's what I found out, and I've shared this
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with Tom Homan. Here's what I found out. The reason
why illegal labor is so is so important to these
industries is threefold. First of all, illegal aliens they work cheap.
It's cheap labor. Let's make sure that we understand that. Secondly, yeah,
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and they don't say much. You know, they will not complain,
you know, so that's another issue. But secondly is the
issue that when I studied the welfare and unemployment benefits,
the welfare and unemployment benefits of the state coupled with
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the federal that it was equal to or better than
working in these hard h in these hard jobs. So
you've got to understand that somebody that that Americans won't
take jobs because they're smart, because they're going to say, well,
why should I get paid this much when I can
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get paid that much for staying home and watching Jerry Springer.
And you know, the poverty culture is a reality. People
you know who are used to poverty will take poverty
and they'll you know, they'll be. They will take poverty
and laziness over poverty and working out hard in the
in the fields.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
It's the reality together.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Man, I'm not going to go out and bust my
button and nearly kill it myself and injuring myself for
for less than minimal that's all.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
That's also the deterioration of dignity and self respect.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
To exactly that's exactly right. That's exactly right. And and
that's why I'm really happy with the Big New Bill
because one of the one of the issues and the
one of the things in the Big New Bill or
the Big what does it call it, the Big Beautiful Bill,
Big Beautiful Bill, is that people have got if they're
going to be getting unemployment and welfare, they've got to
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try to work. And I think that that's very clere,
that's very very key. You gotta get You got to
encourage Americans to work, you know, because it's all all honest.
Work is is good. It's good for the soul.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Well for you.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes, So you need to People need to get out
and move around and be productive. Society is a good thing.
And if they are, if they're made to go out
and do some work. Look at this go, let's screw
this mad ways, We'll get a job I can make
more money.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Right, So we are at the bottom of the hour
and that means it's time for the bottom of the
hour break and UH. And this has been a great
conversation thus far, and we'll be back UH in about
three and a half minutes. Please don't nobody go nowhere.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back and UH,
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before we jump back into it, UH, I got something
really funny to tell you, guys, George, you especially is
probably gonna get a kick out of this. So if
you if you recall I I did UH say at
the beginning of the show, you know is UH is
that I'm I'm done poisoning my body with the processed
foods and whatnot. And that's correct. Doesn't mean I'm gonna
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quit eating cheeseburgers and fries all together, but I'm I'm
gonna I'm gonna limit them. But somebody called me out
and said, wait a minute, you you just took your
picture in front of a what a Burger? And I said, yeah,
because they don't have what a Burger's out here in Idaho.
And that's mainly Texas and Oklahoma chain, and I wanted
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to at least once, and I did that while I
was out in Tulsa. So yeah, you look at my Facebook,
there's a picture of me in front of a What
a Burger and I did enjoy it. It was very good,
I mean, and they what they served me to fresh fries,
a fresh sandwich. Oh man, it was good. But no,
I'm gonna limit my stuff on my myself on that stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
So you know, they say, they say it's bigger and
better in Texas. And when you go to what a
Burger Burger you get a big burger. When you ask
for a small drink, it comes into thirty two ounce
I think it is.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I did it did It was a medium, It was
supposed to be a medium sized meal.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
It looked rather large to me.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yep, you eat you eat one in your hook for life? Yes, yes, indeed,
great advertisement going on here? Yes really, hey, hey, that
was fantastic, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
And like I said, well, they don't have what a
Burger's every year everywhere, just handful of states, mostly Texas
and Oklahoma and actually mostly Texas yep. So anyway, getting
back into it, of course, the stuff Georgia. You're emphasizing
on too with our open borders. I mean, I can't
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even begin to ask you how much you've seen over
the past four years. I'll mean prior to that. And
of course, you know where the real hypocrisy on the
left is, you know, I mean you had Bill Clinton.
He was talking about the problems with immigration just as much,
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if not more than Trump was. And then Obama I
don't recall him talking about it so much, but the
credit I do have to give him is he did
a lot of deportations. As much as I don't like him,
that's one good thing that he did. And then Biden
came along and opened the floodgate.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
And you know, again since the borders was created, I
mean it's since eighteen forty five, there has always been
a problem with illegal immigration. There always has been. And
you know, the United States, the best country in the world,
is right next door to a third world country. So
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the constant movement of people coming across to work or
to live has always been there. The headache is that
under the Biden administration they were facilitated to do that globally.
And this was the problem. I mean, you had people
coming across getting stopped by the board to patrol and
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rather than turned around and sent back like they are
doing now, uh, they what they called processed and they
would be sent to migrant centers throughout the country and
from there they would then be given a ticket literally,
they would be giving a ticket to whatever destination wherever
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they wanted to go. Again, if you go to my
YouTube channel, you will see the interviews and you will
hear people that wanted to go to Denver to lash
and the Biden administration all videos and being loaded onto
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onto airplanes and then flying flying them all over the country.
I mean, there was an absolute facilitating of an invasion,
of a colonization of America by the Biden administration with
illegal aliens. I mean, there's no two ways around it.
That's that's what I call it. It was the colonization
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of America.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
You know, the out out of one country. Though.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I mean, I bet, I bet people in Argentina, the
leftists that you know want to want to live the
communist lifestyle in Argentina. I'm willing to bet that they
have to feel trapped where they're at.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Because I got.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
To tell you, I absolutely love Javier Malay and the
job he's doing that. I think he's honestly, I like Trump,
but I think Javier is a better leader than Trump is,
to be honest with you, I mean, I mean, I
just absolutely love that. You know, he wants to implement
pre market capitalism into Argentina. He also basically he doesn't
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want to erase the name of sche go Vera.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
He doesn't.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
He just doesn't want him to be in the spotlight
as a hero anymore. He wants him to be He
wants to be shown as the villain that he was,
like Hitler, exactly exactly. Yeah, I mean, you can't erase history,
and he knows it. But yeah, he's not going to
tell you that che Govera was someone good.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I think it's interesting you brought Hitler because was Argentina
a destination for the ratlines after all? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah, I think you know what people really think too,
And I think I don't know how much evidence there is,
but yeah, it's it's rumored that Hitler actually died in
nineteen sixty two in Argentina, as opposed to shooting himself
in nineteen forty five.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
That's plausible.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
The Paron the Paron Administration, Colonel Paron, who was president
along with his wife Evita ineteen forty eight, opened up
the the door for for lots of the Nazis to
come and settle in Argentina. And it is. There was
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a show recently, an investigative show where there was a
discussion about a German community, a very very German community
in the Andes that looks like it's in the Alps,
but a very very German community where the there was
discussion that that it was seen there as late as
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nineteen sixty two. So, I mean, it's very very it's
very very possible. Who knows, I mean, you know, there's
no evidence, but I will tell you that the Argentines
have always been very very much to the to the
right of politics uh in South America, which is one
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of the reasons most South American nations don't like them,
Mexico in particular, Cuba the other one they don't. They've
never had good relationships with the with the Argentines because
the Argentines have a tendency to to be more free market,
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more to the right. And you know the fact is
that that there are so many socialist countries now in
Latin America. Not to mention throughout the world. Who you know,
they have people that are starving and ready to leave.
But then they come to the United States and they
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want the same lifestyle. They want socialism.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I mean, figure.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
A liberal move migrating up here to New Hampshire. You know,
they want it because it's free. They want it because
it's easier to live, it's cheaper to live, it's more affordable.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
And then they look at you.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Where's all the benefits were all the programs like we
don't help restate?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well, you get this, guys.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I'm glad you brought that up because it almost slipped
my mind because I was going to bring this up
during the show too. Is when I landed in Tulsa,
I had to wait probably two hours at the airport
and before I could actually go anywhere because I was
still kind of early to check in anywhere. All the
hotels and everything were you know, it is too early
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to check in. And I heard somebody say they were
from Los Angeles came and came out to study. I
think it was what's the college in Tulsa, Oklahoma State
or the that's where the Sooners are I assume as Tulsa,
I believe, or is it Oklahoma City. I'm not sure,
but he went to go at the University of Tulsa
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and he said, the low cost of living is what
kept me out here. But I hate the politics and
like the politics. And for the reason why you're paying
the old do you what do you want Gavin Newsom
to run Oklahoma?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
That's issue that they think they can get something for nothing,
and then they can't understand that exactly five million dollars
for two bedroom houts, you know.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
And and I think there were only really two states
in the Union for like the past to at least
two elections to where they were completely all read.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
One of them was Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Look it over, not one Blue County and West Virginia.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
That I've had the oil industry, the oil industry and
both in both the cold industry and the oil industry.
And in those two states really really uh came through
because I mean so many, so many of those folks
have suffered under the clean energy that they can control
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the climate. Uh. And and you still have these crazy yes,
look at these policies and literally they don't you know,
they don't make sense.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yes, Oh my goodness, I know it sounds like you're
having a little bit of problems there with your your
uh signal there, but no, you keep coming back in
so it doesn't look appear to be too bad.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
But here we are. Now we are at our final quarter,
so that means it's time for our final break and
we'll be back to wrap things up.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
In about one minute. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we
are back for a final segment speaking with El Conservator
George Rodriguez. And we've talked so much about the President,
but you know, as much as I like President, I
think the best president in my lifetime was none other
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than Ronald Reagan himself.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
And please take a let's let's end out.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
The show with talking about your time working under his administration,
because you know, like me, that's here in some about
history and and and one of my favorite leaders of
all time.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Well, I think, well, first of all, let me make
sure that everybody understands that I, while I did work
at the White House, I was just a little young
gopher at that point. I was certainly not a special
advisor or anything of the nature. Nevertheless, I got to
see the President several times a week, and I got
to hear him. I got to uh out what I
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helped to do was to prepare the events that he
was the event books we called it. Whenever he was
going to attend an event, a meeting, a speak at
a conference, what we would do is prepare a briefing
package or briefing book for him so that he would
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know who he's speaking to, who is noteworthy that he
needed to single out, or who he should shake hands with,
what time he had to be there. It was all
very very well choreographed and prepared. I have several stories
about him. We're putting together a speech or a a
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briefing package so that he was going to be shaking
hands with this individual and that individual, and then about
an hour before he was supposed to leave, we'd get
it back to him and he would want it completely changed. So,
you know, we had to we had to think on
our feet, and the gentleman a lot. I remember that
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that Saturday Night Live would make a lot of fun
of him because of his age and supposedly he was
not in his faculties. That was the big thing that
they would always make fun of. But let me tell
you that man. First of all, he had a heart
of goal. He was very very He was a very
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very good organizer, a very very good manager. He did
have two individuals that were his chief of staff at
Mees and Baker, and they were kept on his toe
on their toes. I have not been around Trump, so
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I cannot make a comparison. Trump seems to have a
lot of energy and a lot of stamina. I remember
the day he was shot and the scare that everybody had,
because I mean, an attempted assassination is very very serious.
Obviously he had been hint there had been uh. The
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other gentleman, his his speech writer, his press person, who
was also shot at that point. I can't remember his name.
Name slips my mind right now, but who was also
shot and shot in the head. Brady, the Brady. Brady
was shot in the head. And I remember talking to
a couple of the h of the Secret Service folks,
(44:29):
because we had a lot of contact with them all
the time. A couple of Secret Service gentlemen that had
become friends with me. I remember talking to them, and
they were they were just absolutely in shock because brain
matter had shattered on one of them one of their shirts,
and they had to literally hold the guy hold Brady's
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head while they made it to the to the hospital.
At the hospital, of course we weren't you know, none
of us could go and see what was going on,
but you know, we were kept informed constantly what was happening.
And it was a very very tough day. It was
a very very tough day. Well actually it was a
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very very tough forty eight hours because he went into
the emergency room and he was operated on, and then
he really didn't get out of intensive care for a
couple of days once he was out. I remember Nancy
was the other one that changed at that point. She
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became very very involved all the time in checking to
make sure that he was going to be fine, that
he was going to say the right thing, that we
all knew who was going to be around him. She
became very very much a helicopter wife. I would describe
it as, and I can understand it. She loved him tremendously.
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I will remember that. I don't know how many of
you have seen the movie Reagan.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
With I was about to ask you, uh, your take
on that, because I I really think Dennis Quaid job, yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, I mean he looked like him.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
He did his best to sound like him, because that's
one thing you have to understand is if you remember
when Will Smith played Muhammad Ali, a tough time he
really had would playing with that role is He's it's
one thing to play somebody like George Washington. We don't
have any footage of George Washington. There's a lot of
footage of Muhammad Ali, and he got to mimic that,
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and that's not easy to do the same with Ronald Reagan.
Boy Dennis Quaid did it well.
Speaker 5 (46:46):
It was I thought it was very very accurate. I mean,
there were there were parts of it, of course that
they had to that they had to play with and
and change a little bit for the sake of of
the movie and for the drama. But I thought it
was very very accurate. I thought it was very very good.
In his final days of when he when he was
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getting uh the Alzheimer was was beginning to catch up.
I remember hearing I did not meet I did not
see him at that point until very very late when
really we couldn't talk to him anymore. But when he
was already had retired, he was no longer about ten
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years after he was he had been president. It was
it was a different time for him. But while he
was president, let me tell you he was excellent, good heart,
very very honest gentleman, not afraid to to differ with
politicians who had funded him, but at the same time
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also very very uh uh concie inches of the constitution
of his role. I cannot say enough good things about him.
I mean, to me, if there have been people that
have affected my life, particularly in my younger years, he
definitely is there. I mean, well, he is a president,
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so I mean you couldn't help but be affected by him,
but he is. I really have so much respect for him.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Reagan was your all American American. He was like the
guy next door, and he had a great deal of charm,
very charismatic. I think he was a genuine article. He
was a president for America in his day. But do
you feel like he was surrounded by a lot of
the wrong people in his administration?
Speaker 5 (48:44):
Well, you know, being surrounded by wrong people in d C.
It's like saying, you know, you're in the ocean and
you're surrounded by water, and that's that's the nature of
the beast. You have one of the you know, let
me tell you the story real quick. President Reagan nominated
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me for a position at the Justice Department, and I
was only twenty seven at that point, very green behind
my ears. And the person who had just taken over
the Senate chairmanship of the Judiciary Committee before whom I
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had to go and be voted on was none other
than Joe Biden, who was a big who was as
big an idiot as he was when he left the
White House. And the President nominated me. Anonymous letters circulated
all of a sudden, attacking me, accusing me of everything.
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But you know, well they accused me of everything, and
I preceded Bork, Judge Bork, and so what they did
with me was they did a trial, a trial run
on how they were going to kill the nomination of
a judge Bork. And I mean I was, I was
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put through the ringer, and finally I personally withdrew.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
It was so awful.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
I finally had to withdraw my own my own nomination
because I it was terrible. I mean, it was very,
very bad. The New York Times did an editorial about me,
Washington posted araitorial about me.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
So I withdrew.
Speaker 5 (50:29):
No sooner did I do that than I went back
to work on Monday, and at the Justice Department, I
got called to come over to the White House, and
the gentleman President Reagan put his arm around me and said,
don't worry. We know the truth. And I mean that
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tells me everything about him.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Did he give you any jelly beans?
Speaker 5 (50:57):
Yeah, well, we weren't supposed to touch the beans. Those
were for Those were for visitors and friends. We were
not supposed to touch them.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Was it the black ones he absolutely loved or he despised.
I don't remember.
Speaker 5 (51:11):
No, he loved them.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
He loved them.
Speaker 6 (51:13):
Yeah, but he had he had a jar full of
all colors of them, and they were you know, you
weren't supposed touch them because they were for visitors.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
Yes, I remember that. Yes, Well that's all the time
we have, George.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
I really appreciate, uh, the time you gave us today.
And before we wrap things up, if you could please
plug all your information. We see it there in the ticker.
We got your website, and we got your ex handle.
We go ahead and give all that again, if you
could please.
Speaker 5 (51:47):
Well, the best way to find me, I'm I'm on
social media all over the place. I have a website
George Rodriguez L Conservador, Uh, and I have also I'm
on Facebook. I am on X I am on YouTube again.
George Rodriguez. You have to do is just right. Search
(52:12):
for me. You will find me YouTube, Facebook, x, my
website and soon on on other channels as well another
other social media as well.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
Absolutely so on tap for next week we will be
speaking with our good friend Chris Barrett out of Missouri.
He's doing different things when we talked to him a
couple of years ago on the show, and we're going
to get into that again. George, God bless you and
keep doing what you're doing, you know, God bless you
(52:48):
for what you have done and for what you are doing.
Speaker 5 (52:51):
Thank you very much. God bless you guys too. You
guys are on the front lines.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
We have to be.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
We have to be because this is for the for
our future generations. And with that said, ladies and gentlemen,
thank you very much for tuning into Patriot Confederation. God
save the Republic of the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Amen.
Speaker 5 (53:16):
We will live back down from by
Speaker 2 (53:20):
For the feed Americans.
Every patriot has an obligation to question authority. Those who
are honest are not concerned with your watchful vigilance, and
those with integrity are not concerned with your discernment. Every
American is obligated to voice their concerns and stand up
for their freedoms and liberties.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
One nation under God, invisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
We are the men in the arena.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We are the Patriot Confederation. We live back down from by.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We're un feed Americans.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
All right, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Patriot Confederation. For
the fifteenth of July twenty twenty five, I'm will host
Dad Billy from Twin Falls IFO just returned yesterday from Tulsa, Oklahoma,
right off the heels of the Red Pill Expo, and
what an exciting event it was. I'll be having more
(01:21):
details on that as time when I released the videos
for the interviews that I did, I will just pay
attention to my ex of course at bearded patriots or
patriots bearded excuse me, and just watch for that.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I am joined by John Grovener out of Nashawa and
New Hampshire, how's it.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Going over there? You miss Camp Constitution? How dare you?
I did?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I did miss Camp Constitution. I didn't even know what
was going on. I saw no circulars or ads for it,
and I'm sorry I missed it. But other than that,
things are going up better here than it did for
Pam BONDI after a certain cabinet meeting.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yes, you know what, I haven't even heard of that
because I've been busy, you know, off the heels of
the Red Pill and trying and trying to get other
things in order as I came back home, So I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Even know what's going on there to We'll have to
touch on that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And I thought about calling you when I found out
Camp Constitution was in New Hampshire, but and now I
realized I should have, so you can have possibly been there.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, it had been amazing, man. I'll definitely mark it down,
look for it next year, see if they got another
event going on.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
And joining us this week, of course, we have Elkinservador
George Rodriguez joining us out of the great state of Texas.
Thank you very much for joining us out, are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Very good?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Thank you for inviting me?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Absolutely absolutely so the way I discovered you. Of course,
as I was going through the websites of Salem media
channels and I found that you were on the answer
station in UH in San Antonio. Yet you had a
(03:17):
show there, Elkinservador, and it was very good to listen
to it. That's when I decided to reach out and
UH so we could have a conversation.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Thank you for inviting me. I really enjoy this is
a real pleasure. I've heard a lot about you guys already.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Oh really, oh really, all right? You know what.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
At the Red phil Expo too, Alex Newman said something
to me about how he's seeing my name just.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Pop up more and more and more out there, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Like, oh, somebody watching, somebody's watching you.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, And I'm like, I'm not looking. I'm not looking
for fame. Here.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
We got at least three viewers.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, yes, indeed, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
We don't do this for the fame. We do this
because we love the country and we want to detox
society from the lies they've been told to the mainstream media.
And I also want to encourage them to detox their
bodies from the chemicals and the poisons that are in.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Our process foods, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I mean, I'm kind of I kind of put on
a gut myself over the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I am going to get rid of it.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I have made the commitment to clean up my system
and I started today.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So you've got a problem with being fat and happy?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Now I want to be happy and I don't need
to be fat with it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
There's nothing wrong with being fat if people are fat,
but there's definitely nothing wrong with better health.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I mean, it's seriously, we're look the stuff we're being served,
whether we buy it at the grocery stores or at McDonald's,
we're being poisoned. It's time to wake up and uh
take take more focus in our health for real.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Maha baby Maha.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yes exactly. I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
But we stood up against the nonsense that's been going
on for decades.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
So, Uh, George, or should I say el conservator, I
can't pronounce my rs very well.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
You don't have one.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Yeah, you don't have to roll a single R. You
don't have to roll, so don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
So before we get into everything I watched you go
ahead and uh and uh, let the give the listeners
a bit of background on yourself and of course the show.
I'm not sure if you're still doing your show because
I haven't seen an update, but at least the things
you've been doing over the past, I should say, a
few decades, because you're I mean, it's not like you're
(05:57):
a red pilled You've been lifelong.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, I have. I was born here in Senate. I
was born in Texas, born in Laredo, Texas, but raised
in San Antonio. The whole family has been in the
United States for four generations now, on my mother's side,
on my father's side, they've been here since before Texas
Texas was Texas. And I became a die hard conservative
(06:29):
when I served a two year Mormon Michigan in Mexico,
and I thought I was kind of like being deported
because I had been born and raised in Mexican culture.
But when I got to Mexico, I realized, Nope, I'm
an American. I missed my fried chicken. Not only an American,
a Southern American. I missed my fried chicken. I missed
(06:50):
my football, I missed I missed watermelons. I missed uh,
just being able to be free. You know, I really
think that for young people to understand and appreciate what
freedom is and what this country is, they have to
travel abroad and see what it's like live for a
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while in a foreign country so they can see it.
Then after that, I graduated from college, and I got
myself involved in the Reagan campaign in nineteen seventy nine
and in nineteen eighty and I ended up in nineteen
eighty one going to Washington, d C. With the Reagan
Transition team. I worked in the White House for a
(07:32):
little bit, then I went over to work at the
Justice Department with Edmese and with Brad Reynolds, the Assistant
Attorney General, and I was there working on issues related
to immigration, related to civil rights, trying to turn back
affirmative action, reverse discrimination as I call it. And I
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was there until the Reagan had administration left, and then
I stayed behind and I worked in the Bush administration,
but this time I worked at HUDD for Congressman Jack
Camp who became the Secretary of HUD. And I worked
there for eight years, or for four years, and then
(08:18):
I stayed behind and worked in Capitol Hill for another
eight years. And then when George W. Came in, I
worked with him, and then finally eventually I ended up
retiring and come back coming back to San Antonio. I
was minding my own business in San Antonio. Retired when
(08:39):
I was elected Tea Party president in twenty fourteen, and
I ended up going back to d C quite a
bit to testify and to speak, and then I started
doing a podcast with a friend of mine. Eventually we
did independent podcasting, and then eventually I ended up on
(09:02):
the Salem Network, and I was on the Salem Network
till this past January. I am doing a podcast again,
but I'm doing much more writing and public speaking. I'm
doing a lot more traveling. Anybody in Idaho or in
New Hampshire that wants that wants a speaker, I'm more
than happy to come out and speak. But I continued
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the battle that I've been waging for the past for
the past four years, has been about the open border.
Being a South Texan, the open border has always been
a problem since the border was created, and now, unfortunately,
the open border has moved into our suburbs, into our cities,
into our backyard. And it's not only a question of
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stopping people at the border, now it's removing them, removing
these millions of people, and unfortunately we've got the situation
with the Democrats and the liberals, the leftists who are
doing every thing they can to impede that. I fortunately
have also become close friends with Tom Holman. I am
on his uh bordered nine to one one foundation. I'm
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on the board. I don't communicate as much as I
used to with Tom. I don't want to bother him.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I hear he's busy.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I yeah, I hear he's kind of busy. But still
as as as a member of the board of Border
nine one one, I am very very active and speaking
out and informing people. I lately have been doing a
lot of Spanish language interviews on Univision and Telemundo, which
has been very very eye opening for me because those
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the Spanish language networks have historically been so leftist, so
pro open border. Uh and now because of the heat
from the Trump administration and what's been happening with ordinary
Americans who are fed up with the open border, they
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are starting to be a little bit more middle of
the road, but still not as much as they should be. However,
get I get on TV a lot, and I speak
out against immigration, illegal immigration. I also talk a lot
about the importance of any immigrant assimilating and becoming an
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American in thought. And indeed, because you know, if you're
fleeing a country and you bring it with you, what's
the point of having left? You know exactly it is,
It's absolutely ridiculous. So the other thing about that I
also preach very very strongly, is that if you don't stop,
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if you don't stop rewarding, if you don't stop excusing
illegal behavior, whether it's illegal immigration or just uh petty theft,
you get more and you get worse bad behavior. And
that's what's been happening over the past four years. We
have allowed, we've excused it, we've allowed it. And you know, uh,
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when it comes to domestic crime, we've got tons of
district attorneys that have have been funded by George Sorows
who are soft on crime in big cities, and they
don't do anything about uh, you know, they do nothing
about crime, and so they then they wonder why crime
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is high on the In the same token, uh, they
tried to defund the police, either directly or behind the scenes.
And those are the things that I constantly speak out about.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yeah, and and lately too is these same so called
activists that are calling for gun control and what whatever
else they call for, are now calling for murder of
ICE agents. Yes, and may I you know, I'm going
to acknowledge one thing. ICE agents are doing their job.
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They're not the the almighty gets stop.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I don't know how many times I can uh emphasize that.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
But they are not killing any.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Of these people because they know that they're handling human beings.
And you that are calling for murder, are calling for
the murder of human beings. They're not killing anybody, but
yet you're calling for their murder.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Ye on than when it's when it's you doing something
right or like abortion or not abortion but guns, when
they want to take away your guns, then life matters.
But when it's their agenda, life doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
We have the situation here here in South Texas, UH.
For example, a few years ago that tragedy in Uvalue
at the school and immediately the Democrats led by Bethel
o' rourke, who's you know, a fake. He's like fake Pocahontas,
another fake Hispanic there, but he started screaming about blaming
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the guns and that Mount Mantra has been picked up
by Democrats in South Texas constantly that it's the guns,
the guns, the guns. Well, let me tell you what's
really outrageous now is that the flood that had just
occurred here in the Hill Country, about forty miles north
of me here, the flood is now being blamed on
climate change and immediately on Republicans who don't support climate change.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Oh yeah, I knew they.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
The insanity of these people.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Never waste a disaster, right yes here, here we are.
We are at the first quarter, So we're going to
take our first first break, and we got much more
to discuss. I don't know if we can get all
of this in an hour, but there's a lo to discuss.
So we'll be right back in about a minute and
a half. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back,
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joined by el Conservator George Rodriguez. And uh, I want
to backtrack to something you were talking about, uh, at
the at the beginning there when you're you were talking
about how some people should honestly go overseas and see
what it's like in another country. And you know, and
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I've been thinking a long time of course you have
like these BLM and antifas and all that that I
really want to push a communist regime in the United States.
I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you, you know, as far as
Hispanic people go, I mean, I've met there's probably fifty
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to fifty of people I met in my lifetime, whether
they're on the left or the right. But I'll tell
you what, not one Cuban that I've ever met. I mean,
even regardless they're Democrats or Republicans, they speak out strongly
against communism because whether they have lived the lifestyle, or
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their parents or their grandparents have lived the lifestyle under
Fidel Castro. So I mean, I mean, I have yet
to talk to a Cuban that has anything good to
say about Fidel Castro in a communist regime.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
That's true, That's true. It's very very I mean, there
has been a big division, historical division between Cubans and
Mexican Americans and Puerto Rican Americans because Mexican Americans have
always outnumbered everybody else. However, their experience as being immigrants,
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because they are immigrants, I mean, regardless of what Mexicans
will say, well, this.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Is used to be our land. Now it was.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
There's that keyword.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It was.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
And they feel that the immigrant experiences with them has
been a little bit more like the immigrant experience of
Jews and Italians of coming to a more Protestant Anglo
country and then having to adjust. Now, the big difference
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between Mexican Americans and Italians and all the other immigrants
that have come is that Mexico's right next door and
they've they've always kept coming. There's millions of them. On
the other hand, the Cubans have are just refugees like
everybody else that has fled a dictatorship, and they know
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what it's like to lose their country. They know what
it's like to be in a dictatorship. Many of them
suffered greatly under the dictatorship, at least their parents and
grandparents and continue, I mean, even the ones that have
come recently have come because there are no opportunities in
uh in Cuba, and so you know, the while Latinos,
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while a lot of people like to lump Latinos together,
I always ask which ones are you talking about? The
ones that that have been here since the pilgrims landed,
like the folks in New Mexico who have been who
were colonized, colonized Santa fe are the ones that just
crossed the border like the Venezuelans and the other ones
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that just crossed the border last in the last four years,
or are you talking about the Cubans? Are you talking
about the Puerto Ricans? I mean, who, who? Who are
you talking about? And they are all very very different.
One of the things, and let me explain real quick
that happened with the Trump victory here in South Texas
is that so many third fourth generation Mexican Americans. These
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are folks that have lost every thing, you know, all
the culture and language of Mexico. They are Americans for
all practical purposes, they are Americans. They had nothing good
to say about the open border. And while the Democrats
kept kept applauding and welcoming the these illegal aliens that
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were crossing daily, these thousands of them that were crossing daily. Uh,
local Mexican Americans were fed up, were just tired of it.
And I mean the competition with with illegal Mexicans has
always been a fact in South Texas. Mexican Americans from
the like I said, from the beginning of the border
have have competed for jobs with Mexicans coming across the border.
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And so there isn't really a love there. On the
other hand, it was wide open and everybody was coming,
and they were coming from places like Afghanistan, from El Salvador.
I mean, you know, these were not Juan and Juan
and Jose. They were coming across from Mexico. These wereeople
that were coming halfway around the world. In some cases,
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no no, no culture, nothing with them other than their
illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Some of them are Chinese. Oh yeah, a bunch of them.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I would if you go to my YouTube channel, George
Rodriguez and considered though, do you go to my wood
my my channel, you will see several interviews that I
did of of illegal aliens that were being serviced at
the at the migrant center as they called it here
in San Antonio. And you know, people from Venezuela, people
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from Haiti, people from uh Well, the Chinese wouldn't talk
to us because they couldn't.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Speak one other factory.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I got to throw in there too, George, is you know,
you take somebody from the Middle East and line them
up next to somebody from Mexico and the skin tone
is not very different. A lot of a lot of
the Islamic terrafts that have been coming across are Uh
into the United States. A lot of people still don't
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know this to this day, but they they traveled from
the Middle East to Mexico. First, correct, they learned to
speak Spanish, adopted Mexican IDs, and then crossed the border
because their allegiance is still to allah correct.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
And I ran into three of them that I tried
to interview, and I spoke to them first in Spanish
because I thought, you know, they're they're Venezuela and they're Mexican.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Who knows?
Speaker 5 (21:36):
And you're right, you know, I mean you put you
put a kafia on me. I mean, what do I
look like? I mean for crime out Well.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
They traded there, as I like to say, they traded
their turbans for sombreros.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Post nine to eleven, there was a couple of was
it three Latino guys in the airport. They thought they
were Mid East and that plane and wasld. Yeah, you're right,
they could be very easily mistaken.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, yeah, it is. It is.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
And these folks, well here in San Antonio again about
two years ago, at the height of the of the
open border, there was a guy that was a Middle
Eastern guy, I believe he was Iraqi, who was on
the terrorist watch list, who was stopped and identified in
San Diego, but he made his way to San Antonio
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and he was arrested here and identified only because he
was stopped because he had a malfunctioning headlight. He was
stopped by the police. The police, he didn't have a
driver's license. They ran an ID on him, Homeland Security
identified him and then released him. And I'm not sure
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they ever caught him again. But you know, it was clearly.
You know, when you have I legal aliens who refused
to identify themselves and have no ID, you got to
ask yourself, what is this all about?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well, you know, it's kind of ironic because you and
I have to go out and get the real ID. Yes, yeah,
well these guys are moving around the country with no ID.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I couldn't even board the plane this last weekend without
my passport because I don't have I have my ID,
but that's not expired yet, but it's.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Not a real idea, as they say.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
So I had to use my passport, which I've got
one of you know, I've got my passport book and
I got a passport card. And since I was still
traveling within the continental of the United States. My passport
card worked just fine.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Correct, Yeah, it is. It's a this administrator, this Biden administration,
turned everything upside down completely and totally. I worked on
the nineteen eighty six law legislation, the Immigration ref Form
Act IRKA as it was called, and there were several
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provisions in there that were initially started but then thrown
out the window, and they have never been enforced, for example,
or really strongly enforced. Should I say, for example, the
issues of not allowing illegal aliens to work. I mean
that has been completely thrown out the window.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
And one of.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
The great anxieties that liberals have with ICE is that
now they're going to places and arresting people for working illegally,
and they will be finding the employer. Well, you know,
that should have been going on for the past thirty years,
forty years, and now all of a sudden, it's you know,
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they're upset because the law is being enforced. And one
of the biggest, biggest opponents to it, unfortunately, is big business.
The Chamber of Commerce has always been opposed to it.
And you know, you've got big businesses like big tech
businesses who are who always want to import foreigners to
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work in certain industries, not to mention the agriculture industry,
of course, and wants to import aliens to work. But
you know, one thing is to import an immigrant or
an alien temporarily, but another thing is to let them
come in illegally and then hire them illegally. So you know,
apparently they don't know the word of the word illegal
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and the definition of the word illegal.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
And what you're talking about here is coming from a
party that's supposed to be against slavery, supposed to be
for for justice and fairness for everybody, so on and
so forth. Usually that's the idea about communism or socialism,
is that everybody's on the same plateau, and they want
to allow this to happen to corporations appreciate this to
happen because it drives down wages. And these people don't
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know labor laws. These people don't know where they stand
with these people, so they get a lot of abuse
that they normally wouldn't have to put up with if
they knew.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Whetherwise, you're right.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I did a study. I did it in a study
in nineteen eighty five in preparation for the nineteen eighty
six law. I did a study where I went personally
and interviewed folks in California growers, workers and various agencies.
And here's what I found out, and I've shared this
(26:29):
with Tom Homan. Here's what I found out. The reason
why illegal labor is so is so important to these
industries is threefold. First of all, illegal aliens they work cheap.
It's cheap labor. Let's make sure that we understand that. Secondly, yeah,
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and they don't say much. You know, they will not complain,
you know, so that's another issue. But secondly is the
issue that when I studied the welfare and unemployment benefits,
the welfare and unemployment benefits of the state coupled with
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the federal that it was equal to or better than
working in these hard h in these hard jobs. So
you've got to understand that somebody that that Americans won't
take jobs because they're smart, because they're going to say, well,
why should I get paid this much when I can
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get paid that much for staying home and watching Jerry Springer.
And you know, the poverty culture is a reality. People
you know who are used to poverty will take poverty
and they'll you know, they'll be. They will take poverty
and laziness over poverty and working out hard in the
in the fields.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
It's the reality together.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Man, I'm not going to go out and bust my
button and nearly kill it myself and injuring myself for
for less than minimal that's all.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
That's also the deterioration of dignity and self respect.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
To exactly that's exactly right. That's exactly right. And and
that's why I'm really happy with the Big New Bill
because one of the one of the issues and the
one of the things in the Big New Bill or
the Big what does it call it, the Big Beautiful Bill,
Big Beautiful Bill, is that people have got if they're
going to be getting unemployment and welfare, they've got to
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try to work. And I think that that's very clere,
that's very very key. You gotta get You got to
encourage Americans to work, you know, because it's all all honest.
Work is is good. It's good for the soul.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Well for you.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes, So you need to People need to get out
and move around and be productive. Society is a good thing.
And if they are, if they're made to go out
and do some work. Look at this go, let's screw
this mad ways, We'll get a job I can make
more money.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Right, So we are at the bottom of the hour
and that means it's time for the bottom of the
hour break and UH. And this has been a great
conversation thus far, and we'll be back UH in about
three and a half minutes. Please don't nobody go nowhere.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back and UH,
(29:27):
before we jump back into it, UH, I got something
really funny to tell you, guys, George, you especially is
probably gonna get a kick out of this. So if
you if you recall I I did UH say at
the beginning of the show, you know is UH is
that I'm I'm done poisoning my body with the processed
foods and whatnot. And that's correct. Doesn't mean I'm gonna
(29:50):
quit eating cheeseburgers and fries all together, but I'm I'm
gonna I'm gonna limit them. But somebody called me out
and said, wait a minute, you you just took your
picture in front of a what a Burger? And I said, yeah,
because they don't have what a Burger's out here in Idaho.
And that's mainly Texas and Oklahoma chain, and I wanted
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to at least once, and I did that while I
was out in Tulsa. So yeah, you look at my Facebook,
there's a picture of me in front of a What
a Burger and I did enjoy it. It was very good,
I mean, and they what they served me to fresh fries,
a fresh sandwich. Oh man, it was good. But no,
I'm gonna limit my stuff on my myself on that stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
So you know, they say, they say it's bigger and
better in Texas. And when you go to what a
Burger Burger you get a big burger. When you ask
for a small drink, it comes into thirty two ounce
I think it is.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I did it did It was a medium, It was
supposed to be a medium sized meal.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
It looked rather large to me.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yep, you eat you eat one in your hook for life? Yes, yes, indeed,
great advertisement going on here? Yes really, hey, hey, that
was fantastic, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
And like I said, well, they don't have what a
Burger's every year everywhere, just handful of states, mostly Texas
and Oklahoma and actually mostly Texas yep. So anyway, getting
back into it, of course, the stuff Georgia. You're emphasizing
on too with our open borders. I mean, I can't
(31:30):
even begin to ask you how much you've seen over
the past four years. I'll mean prior to that. And
of course, you know where the real hypocrisy on the
left is, you know, I mean you had Bill Clinton.
He was talking about the problems with immigration just as much,
(31:52):
if not more than Trump was. And then Obama I
don't recall him talking about it so much, but the
credit I do have to give him is he did
a lot of deportations. As much as I don't like him,
that's one good thing that he did. And then Biden
came along and opened the floodgate.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
And you know, again since the borders was created, I
mean it's since eighteen forty five, there has always been
a problem with illegal immigration. There always has been. And
you know, the United States, the best country in the world,
is right next door to a third world country. So
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the constant movement of people coming across to work or
to live has always been there. The headache is that
under the Biden administration they were facilitated to do that globally.
And this was the problem. I mean, you had people
coming across getting stopped by the board to patrol and
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rather than turned around and sent back like they are
doing now, uh, they what they called processed and they
would be sent to migrant centers throughout the country and
from there they would then be given a ticket literally,
they would be giving a ticket to whatever destination wherever
(33:23):
they wanted to go. Again, if you go to my
YouTube channel, you will see the interviews and you will
hear people that wanted to go to Denver to lash
and the Biden administration all videos and being loaded onto
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onto airplanes and then flying flying them all over the country.
I mean, there was an absolute facilitating of an invasion,
of a colonization of America by the Biden administration with
illegal aliens. I mean, there's no two ways around it.
That's that's what I call it. It was the colonization
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of America.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
You know, the out out of one country. Though.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I mean, I bet, I bet people in Argentina, the
leftists that you know want to want to live the
communist lifestyle in Argentina. I'm willing to bet that they
have to feel trapped where they're at.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Because I got.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
To tell you, I absolutely love Javier Malay and the
job he's doing that. I think he's honestly, I like Trump,
but I think Javier is a better leader than Trump is,
to be honest with you, I mean, I mean, I
just absolutely love that. You know, he wants to implement
pre market capitalism into Argentina. He also basically he doesn't
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want to erase the name of sche go Vera.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
He doesn't.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
He just doesn't want him to be in the spotlight
as a hero anymore. He wants him to be He
wants to be shown as the villain that he was,
like Hitler, exactly exactly. Yeah, I mean, you can't erase history,
and he knows it. But yeah, he's not going to
tell you that che Govera was someone good.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I think it's interesting you brought Hitler because was Argentina
a destination for the ratlines after all? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah, I think you know what people really think too,
And I think I don't know how much evidence there is,
but yeah, it's it's rumored that Hitler actually died in
nineteen sixty two in Argentina, as opposed to shooting himself
in nineteen forty five.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
That's plausible.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
The Paron the Paron Administration, Colonel Paron, who was president
along with his wife Evita ineteen forty eight, opened up
the the door for for lots of the Nazis to
come and settle in Argentina. And it is. There was
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a show recently, an investigative show where there was a
discussion about a German community, a very very German community
in the Andes that looks like it's in the Alps,
but a very very German community where the there was
discussion that that it was seen there as late as
(36:38):
nineteen sixty two. So, I mean, it's very very it's
very very possible. Who knows, I mean, you know, there's
no evidence, but I will tell you that the Argentines
have always been very very much to the to the
right of politics uh in South America, which is one
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of the reasons most South American nations don't like them,
Mexico in particular, Cuba the other one they don't. They've
never had good relationships with the with the Argentines because
the Argentines have a tendency to to be more free market,
(37:23):
more to the right. And you know the fact is
that that there are so many socialist countries now in
Latin America. Not to mention throughout the world. Who you know,
they have people that are starving and ready to leave.
But then they come to the United States and they
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want the same lifestyle. They want socialism.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I mean, figure.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
A liberal move migrating up here to New Hampshire. You know,
they want it because it's free. They want it because
it's easier to live, it's cheaper to live, it's more affordable.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
And then they look at you.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Where's all the benefits were all the programs like we
don't help restate?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well, you get this, guys.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I'm glad you brought that up because it almost slipped
my mind because I was going to bring this up
during the show too. Is when I landed in Tulsa,
I had to wait probably two hours at the airport
and before I could actually go anywhere because I was
still kind of early to check in anywhere. All the
hotels and everything were you know, it is too early
(38:29):
to check in. And I heard somebody say they were
from Los Angeles came and came out to study. I
think it was what's the college in Tulsa, Oklahoma State
or the that's where the Sooners are I assume as Tulsa,
I believe, or is it Oklahoma City. I'm not sure,
but he went to go at the University of Tulsa
(38:52):
and he said, the low cost of living is what
kept me out here. But I hate the politics and
like the politics. And for the reason why you're paying
the old do you what do you want Gavin Newsom
to run Oklahoma?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
That's issue that they think they can get something for nothing,
and then they can't understand that exactly five million dollars
for two bedroom houts, you know.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
And and I think there were only really two states
in the Union for like the past to at least
two elections to where they were completely all read.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
One of them was Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Look it over, not one Blue County and West Virginia.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
That I've had the oil industry, the oil industry and
both in both the cold industry and the oil industry.
And in those two states really really uh came through
because I mean so many, so many of those folks
have suffered under the clean energy that they can control
(40:03):
the climate. Uh. And and you still have these crazy yes,
look at these policies and literally they don't you know,
they don't make sense.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yes, Oh my goodness, I know it sounds like you're
having a little bit of problems there with your your
uh signal there, but no, you keep coming back in
so it doesn't look appear to be too bad.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
But here we are. Now we are at our final quarter,
so that means it's time for our final break and
we'll be back to wrap things up.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
In about one minute. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we
are back for a final segment speaking with El Conservator
George Rodriguez. And we've talked so much about the President,
but you know, as much as I like President, I
think the best president in my lifetime was none other
(41:04):
than Ronald Reagan himself.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
And please take a let's let's end out.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
The show with talking about your time working under his administration,
because you know, like me, that's here in some about
history and and and one of my favorite leaders of
all time.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Well, I think, well, first of all, let me make
sure that everybody understands that I, while I did work
at the White House, I was just a little young
gopher at that point. I was certainly not a special
advisor or anything of the nature. Nevertheless, I got to
see the President several times a week, and I got
to hear him. I got to uh out what I
(41:47):
helped to do was to prepare the events that he
was the event books we called it. Whenever he was
going to attend an event, a meeting, a speak at
a conference, what we would do is prepare a briefing
package or briefing book for him so that he would
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know who he's speaking to, who is noteworthy that he
needed to single out, or who he should shake hands with,
what time he had to be there. It was all
very very well choreographed and prepared. I have several stories
about him. We're putting together a speech or a a
(42:34):
briefing package so that he was going to be shaking
hands with this individual and that individual, and then about
an hour before he was supposed to leave, we'd get
it back to him and he would want it completely changed. So,
you know, we had to we had to think on
our feet, and the gentleman a lot. I remember that
(42:56):
that Saturday Night Live would make a lot of fun
of him because of his age and supposedly he was
not in his faculties. That was the big thing that
they would always make fun of. But let me tell
you that man. First of all, he had a heart
of goal. He was very very He was a very
(43:17):
very good organizer, a very very good manager. He did
have two individuals that were his chief of staff at
Mees and Baker, and they were kept on his toe
on their toes. I have not been around Trump, so
(43:39):
I cannot make a comparison. Trump seems to have a
lot of energy and a lot of stamina. I remember
the day he was shot and the scare that everybody had,
because I mean, an attempted assassination is very very serious.
Obviously he had been hint there had been uh. The
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other gentleman, his his speech writer, his press person, who
was also shot at that point. I can't remember his name.
Name slips my mind right now, but who was also
shot and shot in the head. Brady, the Brady. Brady
was shot in the head. And I remember talking to
a couple of the h of the Secret Service folks,
(44:29):
because we had a lot of contact with them all
the time. A couple of Secret Service gentlemen that had
become friends with me. I remember talking to them, and
they were they were just absolutely in shock because brain
matter had shattered on one of them one of their shirts,
and they had to literally hold the guy hold Brady's
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head while they made it to the to the hospital.
At the hospital, of course we weren't you know, none
of us could go and see what was going on,
but you know, we were kept informed constantly what was happening.
And it was a very very tough day. It was
a very very tough day. Well actually it was a
(45:13):
very very tough forty eight hours because he went into
the emergency room and he was operated on, and then
he really didn't get out of intensive care for a
couple of days once he was out. I remember Nancy
was the other one that changed at that point. She
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became very very involved all the time in checking to
make sure that he was going to be fine, that
he was going to say the right thing, that we
all knew who was going to be around him. She
became very very much a helicopter wife. I would describe
it as, and I can understand it. She loved him tremendously.
(46:00):
I will remember that. I don't know how many of
you have seen the movie Reagan.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
With I was about to ask you, uh, your take
on that, because I I really think Dennis Quaid job, yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, I mean he looked like him.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
He did his best to sound like him, because that's
one thing you have to understand is if you remember
when Will Smith played Muhammad Ali, a tough time he
really had would playing with that role is He's it's
one thing to play somebody like George Washington. We don't
have any footage of George Washington. There's a lot of
footage of Muhammad Ali, and he got to mimic that,
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and that's not easy to do the same with Ronald Reagan.
Boy Dennis Quaid did it well.
Speaker 5 (46:46):
It was I thought it was very very accurate. I mean,
there were there were parts of it, of course that
they had to that they had to play with and
and change a little bit for the sake of of
the movie and for the drama. But I thought it
was very very accurate. I thought it was very very good.
In his final days of when he when he was
(47:10):
getting uh the Alzheimer was was beginning to catch up.
I remember hearing I did not meet I did not
see him at that point until very very late when
really we couldn't talk to him anymore. But when he
was already had retired, he was no longer about ten
(47:33):
years after he was he had been president. It was
it was a different time for him. But while he
was president, let me tell you he was excellent, good heart,
very very honest gentleman, not afraid to to differ with
politicians who had funded him, but at the same time
(47:54):
also very very uh uh concie inches of the constitution
of his role. I cannot say enough good things about him.
I mean, to me, if there have been people that
have affected my life, particularly in my younger years, he
definitely is there. I mean, well, he is a president,
(48:16):
so I mean you couldn't help but be affected by him,
but he is. I really have so much respect for him.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Reagan was your all American American. He was like the
guy next door, and he had a great deal of charm,
very charismatic. I think he was a genuine article. He
was a president for America in his day. But do
you feel like he was surrounded by a lot of
the wrong people in his administration?
Speaker 5 (48:44):
Well, you know, being surrounded by wrong people in d C.
It's like saying, you know, you're in the ocean and
you're surrounded by water, and that's that's the nature of
the beast. You have one of the you know, let
me tell you the story real quick. President Reagan nominated
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me for a position at the Justice Department, and I
was only twenty seven at that point, very green behind
my ears. And the person who had just taken over
the Senate chairmanship of the Judiciary Committee before whom I
(49:25):
had to go and be voted on was none other
than Joe Biden, who was a big who was as
big an idiot as he was when he left the
White House. And the President nominated me. Anonymous letters circulated
all of a sudden, attacking me, accusing me of everything.
(49:47):
But you know, well they accused me of everything, and
I preceded Bork, Judge Bork, and so what they did
with me was they did a trial, a trial run
on how they were going to kill the nomination of
a judge Bork. And I mean I was, I was
(50:07):
put through the ringer, and finally I personally withdrew.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
It was so awful.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
I finally had to withdraw my own my own nomination
because I it was terrible. I mean, it was very,
very bad. The New York Times did an editorial about me,
Washington posted araitorial about me.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
So I withdrew.
Speaker 5 (50:29):
No sooner did I do that than I went back
to work on Monday, and at the Justice Department, I
got called to come over to the White House, and
the gentleman President Reagan put his arm around me and said,
don't worry. We know the truth. And I mean that
(50:52):
tells me everything about him.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Did he give you any jelly beans?
Speaker 5 (50:57):
Yeah, well, we weren't supposed to touch the beans. Those
were for Those were for visitors and friends. We were
not supposed to touch them.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Was it the black ones he absolutely loved or he despised.
I don't remember.
Speaker 5 (51:11):
No, he loved them.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
He loved them.
Speaker 6 (51:13):
Yeah, but he had he had a jar full of
all colors of them, and they were you know, you
weren't supposed touch them because they were for visitors.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
Yes, I remember that. Yes, Well that's all the time
we have, George.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
I really appreciate, uh, the time you gave us today.
And before we wrap things up, if you could please
plug all your information. We see it there in the ticker.
We got your website, and we got your ex handle.
We go ahead and give all that again, if you
could please.
Speaker 5 (51:47):
Well, the best way to find me, I'm I'm on
social media all over the place. I have a website
George Rodriguez L Conservador, Uh, and I have also I'm
on Facebook. I am on X I am on YouTube again.
George Rodriguez. You have to do is just right. Search
(52:12):
for me. You will find me YouTube, Facebook, x, my
website and soon on on other channels as well another
other social media as well.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
Absolutely so on tap for next week we will be
speaking with our good friend Chris Barrett out of Missouri.
He's doing different things when we talked to him a
couple of years ago on the show, and we're going
to get into that again. George, God bless you and
keep doing what you're doing, you know, God bless you
(52:48):
for what you have done and for what you are doing.
Speaker 5 (52:51):
Thank you very much. God bless you guys too. You
guys are on the front lines.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
We have to be.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
We have to be because this is for the for
our future generations. And with that said, ladies and gentlemen,
thank you very much for tuning into Patriot Confederation. God
save the Republic of the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Amen.
Speaker 5 (53:16):
We will live back down from by
Speaker 2 (53:20):
For the feed Americans.
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