Patriot Confederation with Mark Grenon

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Every Patriot has an obligation to question authority. Those who
are honest are not concerned with your watchful vigilance, and
those with integrity are not concerned with your discernment. Every
American is obligated to voice their concerns and stand up
for their freedoms and liberties.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
One nation on your God, indivisible with liberty and justice
for all.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Ladies and gentlemen. We are the men in the arena.
We are the Patriot Confederation.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
We live back down from by.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
We're an freed Americans. All right, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
to Patriot Confederation for what is the second of September

(01:06):
twenty twenty five September here already almost going into fall. Yes, indeed,
I'm your host, Bad Billy out of Twin Falls, Idaho,
joined as always by John Grovenor out of Nashville in
New Hampshire. How's it going up there in the Northeast.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Don't get his best I know, Billy, you know, just
hanging in there, living the best life possible.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Man. Yes, yes, indeed our guest this week. I met
him when I was in Tulsa. I want to welcome
Bishop Mark Grinnan to the show, and he has a
very interesting story. Thank you very much for joining us.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Thank you, Billy and John. I appreciate it. I like
I grew up right down the street and the way
john'sad you know, live free or die, and that's on
our license plates in New Hampshire. And I remember going
up to where was it? Ah, Well they have that

(02:03):
old man in the mountain you know, uh that. We
used to go up there all the time. And I
really appreciate the mountain in New Hampshire. I was a
boy scout. We used to do a lot of camping
up there in New Hampshire. The Canga Mangus.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Highway, White White Mountains there, bro.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
It's it, Yeah, Conway, I love it. I love New Hampshire.
They didn't have that New England accent still, even though
I've been out of there for about thirty five forty years.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I think it's funny because you're you now live in
Florida and I live in New Hampshire. I grew up
in Florida. So like you said before the show, we
swapped places.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, yeah, really.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
What we're traveling through.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, not appreciate having me yet, I really do. Story
needs to get out.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
And absolutely, Yeah, yeah, and I mean there's I mean,
there's more parts of this story, you know, and getting
the truth out. A quick announcement before we get started, too,
is that the Patriot Confederation substack is now completed with
every episode up to date. What's different about substack is

(03:19):
I can put a lot more information in the description.
I mean, so you can go pick out an episode
of Patriot Confederation. A good example is the interview that
we did two years ago with now her name just

(03:41):
escape my mind really quick, but she goes I know,
she goes by Katie Shea on Facebook. But yeah, she
was the wife of the J six prisoner who's since
then been pardoned by Trump and he's now home with
the family. But there is so much more information if
you go to that view on substack. So the substack,

(04:03):
of course, it's substack. See Patriot Confederation dot substack dot com.
Don't forget to check it out and subscribe. So Mark's
information his story here, I'd have to say, wrongfully imprisoned
just for trying to help save people's lives because it

(04:26):
wasn't enriching big pharma. I think that's that's a good
way to put it. To start out, yes.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Sir, that's exactly why to put it. I don't know
where you want me to start. I was a missionary
still am really missionary pilot for forty six years in Africa, Haiti,
Dominican Republic, and now Colombia. But I'm in Florida, and

(04:59):
I'll tell you I'm in Florida in a few minutes.
But as a missionary pilot in the Dominican Republican in
nineteen ninety four ninety five, we built a pretty big
compound and built we started churches and training men as

(05:19):
we learned Spanish. I had just come from Nigeria, West Africa,
thought I was going to be in Haiti, but Haiti
went through that invasion in the nineties from the US
and we had to move over into Dominican Republic across
the border. And so as a missionary, that's what we do.

(05:44):
We teach the Bible, We trained people, we helped the neighborhood,
We did wells, We teach people how to build houses.
You know, were just missionaries to try to help any
way we can. I have eight children, nineteen grandchildren, and
so we got a big family. We moved there and

(06:07):
probably starting churches, building a compound. We had a lot
of groups come down, youth groups, church groups, then medical
teams came down because we built a pretty big compound
that could sleep sixty people, three stories high, big cafeteria,

(06:28):
and people wanted to come down learn the mission field.
And we lived in a very poor area. So therefore
when groups came down, they got to see the mission field.
Third world country, right raw as it needs to be seen,
changed many people's lives. Many parents told me their kids

(06:50):
came back different because they saw four or five people,
maybe even more two the three fake families and sometimes
in small little houses, smiling, happy outside toilet had to
go down the river to get their water, and yet

(07:12):
they were happy people. And they went back and said
to their parents, I don't know, I don't want to
complain anymore. I just spent two weeks at a place
where they have nothing, and yet they shouldn't be happy,
yet they're happy. Many of the parents told me that
kids apologized to their parents but being so selfish, and

(07:34):
so that was a good result. Then medical teams came
down and they wanted me and my sons, especially my
older sons, spoke Spanish to interpret in the mountains where
we were triaging people to get free operations from very

(07:54):
good people. These surgeons were people giving up their their
vacations to come and do free operations for cancer. For
a lot of them were umbilical hernias, testicular hernias. They
had women that would get tubal ligations, which means they

(08:16):
were sterilized only because they were young women twenty five
to thirty. They had eight kids already, the uteruses were
falling out, and they really needed to get sterilized or
they might die the next time they had childbirth. So
things that were good. We weren't trying to sterilize people

(08:39):
to depopulate the world or anything like that. Up totally
against that kind of stuff. Good people did a lot
of I learned how to poltief, learned how to stitch people,
learned how to deal with infections, even though we deal
with a lot better now. And so in doing that,

(09:00):
they asked me to participate in the surgeries because they
needed someone When people being inticated being put under to sleep,
I would guide them and it's okay, and talk to
them and eat. So they even let me participate because
they needed extra hands. Cut people. Hold the testines in

(09:24):
my hands as they were doing different type of operations,
so to say the least, in ten years, I learned
a lot about surgery. I learned a lot about the
human body, to the point that we had a pharmacy
in our house. We had everything from antibiochs to morphine.

(09:46):
I had surgical excuse me, a dental chair where I
would pull people's teeth. I had, you know, light ocaine
siloka to number the teeth, to pull out very bad
teeth and stitch them up. It was amazing for things
I had learned. And in doing that, I contracted mercer,

(10:11):
which is a bacterial infection that hundreds of thousand people
died from it or have their limbs amputated because there
was no known cure. So I got it, my son's
got it. Then it spread through all my eight children.

(10:34):
Horrible boils and when you lanced them possibly come out.
They were very bad. You got to cut immediately. The
mercer in your blood went to the cut infected. It
just horrible and we all got it. And I tried
every pharmaceutical I had, and I had some very expensive

(10:57):
ones care flexing roseepin time released and they would give
to people in surgery. Didn't touch it. It got worse.
So I told the judges. I told the doctors, guys
start working. They said, well, we're going to have to

(11:18):
cut it out, skin graph if it doesn't work, amputate limbs, arms, whatever.
That's the only way we could stop it. There is
no cure. So, as a father of eight and a
god to believe the word of God, I've misprayed and said, Lord,

(11:40):
let me find something. So I went to the internet
typed in Natural Cures for Mercer. It's really a staffer
staph infection. A lot of people get in the hotels, gymnasiums,
things like that.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Oh, I've seen staph infections before and when I trained
you toosh, yeah, I do understand it. Yes, horrible.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
It just keeps growing very contagious. So I come to
this book popped up. This is two thousand and six
Natural Cures for Mercer. This book popped up miracle mineral
supplement for the twenty first century. That's interesting. I dismissed it,

(12:28):
thinking miracle, I believe in miracles. Guy's name is Jim Humble.
I kind of dismissed it. But a week later the
Lord brought me back. The same book pops up. Because
everything's getting worse. So I read the book. Good, wow,
this kind of makes sense. This guy's in Africa. He

(12:51):
found it a cure for malaria in South America. Took
it to Africa, cure and malaria and in a day
one hundred percent of the time in three or four
different countries in Africa, as well as cancer as well
as diabetes, AIDS, mercer infections. And he says, so he

(13:16):
wrote a book. This is he got there about two thousand,
wrote a book, came out in two thousand and five.
I get the book two thousand and six. So I
read the book, got the product, and two weeks I
took it first. I didn't want to kill my kids.

(13:37):
I didn't know if it was true or not. I
took it first two weeks, dried up, gone incurable. Gave
it to my kids as we learned different doses in practice.
Took about six months, nine months cleared. The family of
mercer told the doctors, look, guys, it's gone. Nah, we

(14:01):
mean not. It's God. My family doesn't have it anymore. Well,
you better stay away from that stuff. Why would I
stay away from this stuff? The FDA says, stay away
from me. I don't care what the FDA says, we're
all cured. You said it was uncarable in Ko. Well,

(14:22):
I'm going to use it. So all the doctors left.
I lost a lot of support as a missionary. They
left me.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
You want to ask a question, No, I think we're
just going to take a brief pause for the first
commercial break, and then that's so where we're going to continue.
Because what you're talking about, of course, is a substance
that I use to get through many colds when it

(14:53):
and UH and kept me well as long as I
had it. But it's really tough to come by. But
we'll get to that here in a about two minutes.
Be right back. All right, ladies and gentlemen, We are back,
and once again we are joined by Mark Grennan telling
us the most interesting story that some of you are

(15:14):
probably going to drop your jaws when you hear of
some things that happened. But the stuff he was talking
about it is called chlorine dioxide. Now, for a while
I confused it with hydroxy chloroic, when in fact I
gave it to UH. I gave I gave it to

(15:35):
my foster kid before he was my foster kid. I
gave it to him one time he was coming down
with a cold. The hospital wanted to know what was
given to him, and I said, hydroxy chloroquin But no,
it is it is not that stuff. Now, this this stuff,
I will tell you, it doesn't taste very pleasant. But

(15:56):
then again, anything that's really good for you doesn't always
taste very good. It's you know, and it's got to
smell like bleach. As a matter of fact, if you
remember during Trump's first term, and it was this stuff
was talked about, and they put it all over the
news that oh, you just fillip a syringe with bleach
and injected, and that was the rumor going around, which

(16:17):
was absolutely not true. And I knew it wasn't true
from the get go, but I knew that they were
going to the you know, the public would eat this
up from the media and say Trump's trying to kill everybody.
But but no, chlorine dioxide kills bacteria with right there

(16:41):
on the spot in most cases. I mean, considering a
case like Mercy, it's gonna take a little bit more time,
but you can see that it definitely helped Mark. And
of course the Food and Drug Administration they don't want
they say it's bad for you because in the end,
they're they're arm in arm with big pharma, and when

(17:02):
people are doing better, the pharmaceutical companies are not making
any money. So of course they're going to lie to you.
And you know this got worse for you later on,
as you're promoting this stuff and trying to help people,
you get arrested. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well no. When the doctors left me in two thousand
and six, I decided I'm gonna go to the mountains,
which I go. Anyways, it's not helping people with this
floring dioxide. To make with two little bottles mixed to
you mix a sodium chloride with a t not sodium

(17:43):
chloride which is table salt, and hydrochloric acid at four
or five percent very mild that's in your stomach. You
mix them together creates chlorine dioxide, which has been around
since eighteen fourteen and as over thirty thousand patents, all

(18:03):
kinds of scientific studies, clinical studies, all kinds of testimonies.
It's amazing. On our site we get thousands of testimonies.
So as I went to the mountains, I started seeing
dang a fever cured because that's what they have in
dominicant cancer aids, mercer oh not COVID, excuse me, COPD, diabetes,

(18:34):
all kinds of things. For two years, people are coming
to my house. So we learned how to make it
from scratch, from the powder, and we'd we'd take the
sodium chloride powder and we'd mix it and dilute it,
and then we had that. And then we took the acid,
diluted that from thirty seven percent, which is like battery acid,

(18:57):
down to four or five. And then we made our
own and started making it available to people, giving it out,
even set up a website for a couple of years,
testimonies all over Haiti and Dominican Republic. So ecstatic people
are learning about it, but people are calling me asking

(19:18):
for more. And so fast forward two years, three years.
I write this guy, Jim Humble, who I read his book,
and say, Jim, this is really cool what you've found
and I've been using it. You know, this is all
the things that I'm seeing happen. He writes you back,
go Greg Mark, I'm in Africa. You're in another part

(19:41):
of the world. We use it the same thing, same
basic protocol, and you're having the same results I'm having
in Africa. This is wonderful. Keep in touch, and I
did a year later. Hey Jim, I'd like to sell
my compound and come to Africa and learn from you

(20:02):
or tell you what we've been doing. It was bark,
don't come here. They're throwing me out of Africa. Can
I come there with you? Like? Sure, We've been praying
they'd be able to take this around the world. What
better guy to help us than the guy who wrote
the book come on within three months of us praying

(20:25):
that God would allow us to take this was called
MMS the Miracle Mineral Supplement, which is basically GLORINGE to
oxide take it around the world. Three months later, Jim
Mumbo arrives in Sana Domingo to Minican Republic to live
with us. Well, like this is wonderful. That was January

(20:47):
twenty ten. We hit the ground running because of Jim's book.
He had about twenty thousand people on his mailing list,
and so we started telling his mailing list we're gonna
set up in April a seminar here. We're gonna we
had we built the curriculum, we built a syllabus. We

(21:10):
even built a online course with forty different videos showing
people how to use it for the teeth, for the eyes,
for the ears, for the nose, for doucees, for enemies, topically,
to take baths in it, all kinds of ways how
to make it from its raw material. In our first seminar,

(21:34):
April of twenty ten, we had forty five people from
eighteen countries come take a trip, a lot of them
around the world, land in Santa Domingo, take a three
hour bus ride call us. When they got there, we
took them up in the mountains and we had a
wonderful time for ten days, and we taught them a

(21:56):
lot of stuff. We even took them to do some
practice training up in the mountains, making spray bottles and things,
and that blossomed into nineteenth seminars. In almost three years.
Jim wrote another book which we helped him with and

(22:17):
he moved on to her to Portavata, Mexico. Because one
of the ladies, a lady that came to our second seminar,
Kerry Rivera, had an artistic son. She was recovering with
chlorine the oxide with MMS and she had a beautiful

(22:38):
house right on the ocean and brought them out to Mexico.
They had lights all the time and internet, which we didn't,
so Jim said, Mark, I'm going to go there and
be with her, and we paid her in charge of
all the artistic cases. My sons and I went to Columbia,

(22:59):
South America because it's a country where it has a
good infrastructure. We had lights all the time, and we
had internet, so we sold the compound use that money
to build the church that we started in Dominican Republic
called the Genesis to Church of Health and Healing, just

(23:24):
a church of basic beliefs that we should love our
neighbor as ourself, love God as God asked us to
and doing that, you will love your neighbor as yourself.
And we believed in prayer that God would let us
take this to the world and teach the world how

(23:46):
to use it. Our plant Columbia was to go to
the Amazon and deal with malaria and teach people all
over South America. Because we spoke English and Spanish. I
don't know if you want me to pause there, but
I'm just trying to give you time because I got
a lot to say.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yes, yes, I know, and sometimes an hour with a
few commercial breaks isn't enough time to say everything. For sure,
but let's definitely let's see we got we got about
to three minutes before we have to go to our
next break. But so let me ask you, when we're

(24:27):
going to fast forward when you were arrested, what was
the official charge?

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Okay, you want me to fast forward, then tell you
about the rest because it makes more sense. Okay, yeah,
louse this three minutes. I'll tell you about the rest
after the break. So we went around the world sixty
three seminars in ten years, trained two thousand and eight

(24:55):
people in all the protocols. I wrote three book and
did a documentary in two thousand fifteen. This was my
first book I did in two thousand and fifteen, Imagine
a World Without Disease, Okay, and then I did two others,

(25:17):
one in twenty eighteen, one in twenty twenty. By doing that,
we had trained people in one hundred and forty five countries.
And so now twenty twenty comes along, okay, And this
is when they hit the fan. The crap hit the fan,
because now COVID pops up really.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Was called corona, okay.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
And so when that popped up, I could stop and
get back if you want what happened because we were
curing it in one day, and it was getting out
around the world that we were doing that.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Oh, definitely, why don't we save those juicy details? So
after the break. So, yeah, we're close enough to the
bottom of the hour. We're gonna go ahead and take
our bottom of the hour break and we will continue
when we come back here and just right around three minutes.

(26:22):
And if you were watching us on Cube Broadcasting, thank
you very much for tuning in. Once again, we are
joined by Mark Grinnan and continuing with his story. But
before we continue, uh, John has not had a lot
of chance to speak. I was wondering if he had
any questions he wanted to get in there before we continue.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, I think he was gonna tell us about his arrests.
So why don't we pick back up where we left
off on that, because that's where we, you know, Cliff
left our cliffhanger, and then we'll get into some questions
and stuff afterword.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Okay, So well we can about and took my book
and gave the two bottles that we have and make
the burnd oxide to someone in the White House. I'm
not gonna get into who, and it got the Trump
Trump mentioned in April twenty second in a news conference

(27:17):
that there was something that was taking care of it
really quickly, this coronavirus. Maybe we should look into it,
and they knew what it was, boring dioxide. He didn't
know how to mention it, so Fauci doctor Burke, they
took off and called it bleach. The FDA set up
a thing where they gave us a cease and desist

(27:41):
letter to our church saying stop telling people about this.
If you continue, we're going to come after you. And
we said we're not going to stop. We have a
First Amendment that says, well, Congress did not make the
law in regard to the establishment of a religion or

(28:01):
the free exercise thereof, or freedom of speech. So we're
gonna go with the fact that there's no law against
what we're doing. I don't care what the FDA says
some statute code are apt. We're going to stand on
the First Amendment. So we refused to go to their

(28:22):
court and answer the injunction. I wrote them a letter
though I responded, and the judge and the prosecution answered
me showing that they received my answer. I didn't have
to go to a court. I gave them my answer,
and it was based upon the First Amendment and some
other Supreme Court decisions. They didn't care because we don't

(28:46):
have constitutional courts in America. Their administrative courts, their corporation.
The FDA is a for profit corporation, as well as
the CDC, as well as the Department of Justice, as
well as the Bureau of Prisons. They're all corporate. They're

(29:08):
there to make money. So we said we're not going
to participate. Boom July comes along. I'm in Columbia doing broadcast.
That's why I know about the commercial breaks. That's why
in questions because I did two hundred and seven two
hour broadcast in four years, so I know what it means.

(29:30):
It's very important. So they said to my son, stopped.
They said no, They brought summons of court, said we're
not signing that we have a First Amendment. You better obey.
They called the sheriff and said, hey, you're supposed to
be a constitution offer stop this FDA. No one stopped anybody.

(29:51):
July eighth, twenty twenty, they came and grabbed my two
sons in Brandon to Florida. ABC helicopter above the roof,
all kinds of three letter agencies from the US vostals,
which to me, they're mercenaries, paid mercenaries. The sheriffs, the

(30:12):
local police, state police, the DOJ, the FDA, the EPA,
all kinds of agencies made a big deal out of it,
like they caught, you know, some terrorists somewhere. They were
just a little church trying to help people around America
and around the world. And we'd do it for free.

(30:33):
If they couldn't give us a twenty five dollars donation,
we would give it to them for free and pay
the shipping. Now, that doesn't sound like scammers if you're
gonna give it away. So they rested my sons, threw
them in jail in Banellas County outside of Tampa clear Water, Florida.

(30:56):
A month later, they paid them million dollars to get
my son and I in Columbia. I wasn't hiding. I
was on a broadcast every week. They kicked my door in.
I gave him my address, I gave him my phone
number when they arrested my son. You guys have any questions,

(31:20):
come to me. I'm here. Knock on the door. I'm
not hiding now. They kicked the door in six in
the morning when my wife and I were reading our Bible,
kicked the door in with a swat team of men.
Were twelve men with m sixteen's and college offs, and

(31:42):
you know they came at us, put guns in our heads.
It said, you know, like criminals. We're at peace. Said
we didn't do anything wrong. Why don't you just knock
on the door. We're not doing anything wrong. We're at church,
we're preachers, we're believers. We're not going to sign anything.
They try to make it sign things. But they paid

(32:02):
two hundred fifty thousand dollars from my son and I each,
so that's a half a million, brought us to Bogota.
Colombia paid another half a million to keep us there
for two years. Okay, now that's how we arrested. They
charged me and my sons with contempt of court. John

(32:25):
they were going to give me two life sentences for
contempt of court that's usually six months or a year, okay,
but for not showing up in court. And the other
charge was conspiracy. Same when they gave Trump to defraud
the United States, not any people, because there were no victims.

(32:48):
There was no intent, no bail, no viable claim that
we harmed any man or woman, and yet they held
us for two years in Colombia. When they wanted to
extradite us after two years, Columbia said, we will not
extrade them with life sentences. You got to drop those. Okay,

(33:11):
sure we'll drop them. But one thing that was cool
and Columbia was because I was with all the million
billionaires drug dealers. They paid the guards off to let
me give everybody during dioxide every day. So I set
up a table in forty to fifty men. No problem

(33:33):
with COVID, no problem with diabetes, no problem with high
blood pressure. I would give it out to the guys.
And I became good friends with everybody, obviously, and I
gave them things from the Word of God too. That
was the benefit of being in a third world country,
not in America with a prison system. I'm not saying

(33:55):
it's China. I'm not saying it's Russia or a horrible that.
But it was pretty bad in Miami. I'm telling you.
They locked my sons up twenty three hours a day,
let them out for one hour every three days to
take a shower. Horrible homosexuals, stripture to see us, a

(34:18):
real horrible sick place, and so they finally probably back
to America. It was another year. They sent us around
the country for a mental evaluation. They call that diesel therapy,
and wouldn't let us go back to Miami for three months.

(34:38):
But after three years they came and said, all right,
we're going to have a trial. Only because they couldn't
extend him anymore. We would not take lawyers. According to
the Constitution. We were defending ourselves according to the First Amendment.
We were going to stand upon it. And they said, well,
we're going to have a trial. Okay, we want a

(35:01):
Seventh Amendment trial and for the truth, excuse me, Seventh
Amendment trial by jury under common law. That's what we want,
and we will participate and defend ourselves and show all
our evidence. No, but we're going to give you a trial.
We're gonna we'll give you a jury, but not the

(35:24):
kind of jury we wanted. So we said we're not
going to participate. So they picked the jury, stacked it
with pharmaceutical people, legal people of course, right, and we
just sat there, would to answer a question, nothing for
a day supposed to be three weeks. One day it

(35:45):
was done. They went to deliberate. It took fifteen minutes.
But before they deliberated, the judge said to the jury,
do not consider the First Amendment in this case. They're
a fraud. They're not a church yet. I've been a
missionary at that time for thirty five years in four continents.

(36:08):
What do you mean when not a church? Even in America.
We wanted to high RS Code five oh eight, not
to scam five oh one three C free church, HIGHERRS
Code five oh eight. We were a church. What are
you saying scam? We didn't make this up because of
the pandemic, which we call the plandemic. We already missionaries.

(36:31):
We start our church back in twenty ten, the Genesis
two church. Before that, I had other churches I started.
So fifteen minutes they deliberated guilty in all counts. Well,
we only had one count left. So the match they
could give us was five years. That's why I'm out

(36:51):
and my other son, my other two sons, they didn't
have the conspiracy charges dropped, but another seven and a
half years. They get twelve over and a half years.
Me and Joe Joseph got five. They let us out
after four years and two months. Good behavior, Well, the
sons are still in for another seven and a half

(37:13):
years for contempt of court. That's it. Yes, it's on appeal. Yes,
we're trying to beat it. We're asking people to write Trump,
write Bondy, write Kennedy, and ask them to talk to
Trump about giving us an appeal.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
I think you need a pardon, let alone an appeal.
That's about Yeah, you know, you know, I just got
a comment too, is after what you just told me,
you know, is getting my blood boiling. Makes me wonder
how many more times this has this happened, because in
your case, this is the second time I heard about

(37:54):
a judge saying the Constitution doesn't exist. The other time
I know of is somebody else on a firearms charge
in New York when they told and they told that
person the Second Amendment doesn't exist here, and you're they're
telling you the same thing with the First Amendment. This
is ridiculous. This is an injustice.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yeah, it's an administrative constitution. Je even said to me,
I don't care what the constitution because I questioned, you're
defending ourself during hearings. To wait a bit, judge, I
quoted Supreme Court things that said they were doing wrong,
he said, First Amendment, second Amendment, fifth Amendment, sixth Amendment,

(38:39):
seventh Amendment, ninth Amendment. Judge, she goes in my court.
I don't care what the Constitution said. Okay, give me
your oath of affirmation quoted the Article six that you'll
uphold the Constitution. You won't even answer me because she
didn't make an oath of affirmation should top all the constitution.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Billy, Well, I got no word. I just absolutely all
on record.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
It's all on record, all on record.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I did give you a link to the Department of Justice.
What is it called the for Pardons get the Office
of the Partner Attorney US Department of Justice. So if
you didn't have the link before and I did share it, it
goes to my two links. If Billy'd like to share
it with his links to his site, folks can get

(39:35):
involved that they'd like to.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
The best way we have that link we've written them
we've written is to get in charge with get in
touch with this lady. Her name is Alice Johnson. If
you don't have made her the partons are okay, if
you let me see if I can get it to
you while we're talking. But she has an email. If

(39:59):
every body we just write her email. I don't know
if you can find it, John I got it, don't
have it right at my fingertips, Alice Johnson. The pardons
are her email is found. Maybe I have it on.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Are you sure of that? Because it's coming up as
a pardoner attorney is Edward R.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Martin Jr.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
That's another guy that works with her. Well, is it?
Is it a? Is it an email? Well?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
I have to look and see if I can get
you an email for him.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Well, we're okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
I'm just gonna say while we're doing that getting that information,
we're at the final quarter, So while we go ahead
and take our final break, and we'll be back in
about two minutes. My blood's boiling after hearing about this,
but I knew it would. We'll be back in a
couple of minutes. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are

(40:56):
back and just about ready to wrap it up here.
I definitely wish we had more time because there's just
so much to tell them. You know, it's not very
often too or I have a guess that you know,
they tell me of something that happens to them and
I can't help. But take it personal and it makes

(41:19):
me really angry the way they were treated. But this
is John. This is the second time this has happened
to me while doing this show, ever since we launched
it two years ago.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
You know, yeah, no, it's it gets your blood boiling, man,
I mean, enough is enough with all this nonsense, and
we're talking about here is law fair, That's what he's
talking about. And we got to start learning to stand
up with each other for each other. And that's what
this country really needs is for we the people to

(41:51):
get organized so that when these things sort of has happened,
like he's asking us all to email and reach out
to these folks on his behalf, we should have mass
the people ready to go for this. You know, the
left is organize this way. We as conservatives, we don't
think in these terms. We just think life should be fair.
We look for we think consume, it's just just, but
it's not. We're dealing with a political opposition. We got

(42:14):
we've seen these people commit law fair. This is going
on continuously, and every once in a while we get
somebody like Mark here telling us about these stories that
are pretty horrendous when you listen to them.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
I mean it's.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Absolutely total, totally politicized. It's nonsense and it needs to stop.
And the only way it's going to stop is when
we the people get involved.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
There's two ways you're going to beat this crap.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
One is you're going to start financing legislators, and we
don't have the money. Even collectively, we're being outbeat. In fact,
you know what, corporations get eighty percent of the favor
from of our elected officials. Eighty percent of the favor
our elected officials rule or or create laws in favor
for corporations over the American people, even when it's not

(42:56):
in the American people's interest.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
So the only other way you can.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
And beat them is through the vote or the poppy population, right,
is when we get together and there's more of us
than them, kind of like that little meme, when we
stand up and rise, a little game is over.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Yeah, you know, I'll use the illustration doll of us
travel with the Lily Putians and dolver tied down. You
know we're sleeping giant. We just say just wake up
down the Did you see that the email for Alice?

(43:32):
I put it in the in the chat Alice at
Taking Action for Good dot org if they would write
her A hundred, two hundred, a thousand people free the
Grenning's pardon for the Grennings, Alice, check out the Grenning
family's case. We were there before the Ja sixers. I

(43:54):
know the Jay sixers. I was with them. They came
to our chapels and listen to us. Those guys they
did get railroaded. But I'm telling you, folks, we were
there longer than them. Mike oh two, my oldest son there.
He first time he seen his oldest two sons five years.

(44:17):
They were thirteen to nine. He said, Dad, I walked
into the do yeah, I visit the room. Now they're
eighteen and fourteen. They're men. They're taller than me. Lord
help them. Please open doors. People write. They take care
ten minutes to write a email to Alice and say,

(44:41):
would you look into the case against the Grennans, please
get them apart?

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Well, it would help us to have some information. How
she would identify them, I assume when Jesus already knows
who they are. But how would we as a individuals,
because we're not already familiar with you? What are the
key words we need to give?

Speaker 4 (45:01):
It would be the Grennan family because believe me, she's
already got emails. Okay, Kennedy knows about us. He mentioned
thlowing the oxide in his hearing when they were approving
him or rejected, he mentioned throwing the oxide. I don't
know about Pam Bondy if she knows about us, but

(45:23):
many people around them. No, bus Ed, won't you close it?

Speaker 3 (45:28):
The Yeah?

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Yeah, g A Griffins. But Martin what was his first name? Ed? Martin?

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Edward Martin, Ye, Edward.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
You got a personal letter from a friend of his
about us. If anybody I put my email, If anybody
wants the case number, all the names of the Grennans,
write me, I'll give it to you, and I'll give
you the case number so they can refer right to
the case number as well us our names. Yes, and

(46:04):
that would pinpoint it. And only the people that write
me are gonna do it anyway, So have them write
me and I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
And oh it's okay to make that email public.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yes, sir, I'll be sure to put it in the
sub stick. And Mark, I wanted to tell you also
that I told you I had the two bottles, but
some kind of funny happened. I don't know, if you'll
laugh or cry, but you know they it was given

(46:36):
to me in two plastic bottles, and I think since
then they realized how big of a mistake that was
because one of the bottles, the acid was eating up
the plastic in towards the end it the whole bottom
of the bottle just fell apart, like uh, like brittle china,

(46:57):
and and I lost it all. So I think it's
better contained now. But yeah, during the time of your imprisonment,
I got two bottles, and that was at another Red
Pill expo in South Dakota, the first one that I
went to. So I've been familiar with this stuff for
a while, and I you know, the time that I

(47:17):
had it, I'm glad that I did because yeah, once
I remember I took it once I felt the first
symptoms of a cold, and the next day it was gone.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Well, we used the bottle of a lot glass and
HTPE plastic, which that would not happen. And I just
put a link in to some people. I know, this
isn't my company. I just know these people mostly because
we've helped them, they've helped us, and I know they

(47:47):
used to write plastics or glass, depending what the people want,
so that's the place I would get it if you
want to put that in the description. Also my books
on that Gods Universal Antidote dot org. You go to that,
Google won't even let you open it up. You're gotta

(48:08):
go to another browser like Duck, duc Go or one
of the other ones. But Google won't let you in.
But if you get there, open it up. Just click
on my name. Thousands of testimonies, videos and everything showing
people healed. You just scroll down, have to open up
my name and all my books are there and protocols

(48:33):
and on the page you'll see kav lab also, so
they can get everything in all kinds of research, all
kinds of clinical studies. You can watch videos of people
cured of everything. We did testing in Africa with malaria
a very I wanted to be a one stop informational

(48:57):
site for cloning the oxide, and that's what it is,
and we believe it's God's universal antidote.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
I would like to read this if you guys don't mind.
This comes from the National Institute of Help. The way
Yeah in ih chlorine dioxide access and an oxidizing bioside
and controls the growth of gram positive and grand negative
bacteria by inhibiting the transport of nutrients to the cell
wall by destroying it. It's effectiveness is similar, even superior

(49:24):
in some respects to that of other known oxidants, such
as ozone or chlorine. It behaves as an oxidizing agent
through electronic exchange, which allows it to oxidize any type
of organic compound, from viruses of bacteria to proteins. Hence,
it's frequently used to purify water or certain surfaces. So
they suggest that you can put like I think it's
zero point eight parts per million in water is a

(49:47):
safe usage for chlorine dioxide. So the suggestion you use
it for the very purposes you're talking about, because it
kills bacterias. So now you've got to arrested for what.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
You gon't find water and tell someone to drink it.
In essence, the APA has approved it for water pure
figation five drops activated per gallon. Put it in a
gallon one hour. It's completely pure fied. I'm talking about
dirty water. The EPA uses it mostly all over the world.

(50:20):
They use it number one water pure fire, and they
put us in jail for purefying water. Yet Amazon sells
it and I'm in jail for that.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Yeah, yeah, but I said, whatever they're selling on Amazon, though,
probably has to be modified in some way that I
wouldn't pressed.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
No, really, No, it's that that company is also there.
They have their own website. But this I put up
in my new book in the front of it. Ten
different links on Amazon, good broad same as us. They're cheap,
thirty twenty five to thirty five bucks, last you two

(51:03):
three months, Purefi you Water. Coleman uses it. They sell
it at Walmart. The campers to Purefi Water, and we
went to jail for that.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Come on, yeah, it doesn't make very much sense.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
That makes.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
What my read?

Speaker 2 (51:21):
What am I reading here about Jonathan Grinnin's backyard ten
thousand They so they provided evidence of pictures of sodium
chlorite powder ten thousand pounds that he had. Did he
have sodium chloride or was this is that?

Speaker 4 (51:35):
What this is, right, is what you make go into
oxide with when you when it's in its raw state,
it's a powder. We had eighty three eighty fifty kilo
drums of it in the back in stored correctly bought legally,

(52:00):
nothing ilegal. We had. So when they got there, because
we were going all over the world. Okay, when they
got there, look at all this stuff. So they use
it to purefy water. Chemical companies sell it. It's not
illegal to buy either. Is the hydrochloric acid illegal to buy?
We had two products completely illegal to buy, and we

(52:23):
reduced the strength of vote so that they gave it
to mice. Listen to this, John and Billy. They gave
it to mice stronger. Then we gave it to men,
and the mice got stronger.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Clinical studies.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Well yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
So basically, if you took ten thousand pounds and threw
in a bathtub or something to try to drink the water,
you would die. But if you mixed it like you said, responsibly,
it's just purifying water. And there's nothing illegal about you
parifying your own water, right, not at all.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Exactly because of Kennedy, he's ahead of the MTA. They
took down the warning against going outside now at the
FDA site. Okay, six weeks ago it was taken down
and was still in jail.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Oh, we got it. Yeah, those messages need to be
sent out. However, we are unfortunately out of time. Mark,
I really appreciate you time spending your time here on
the show. We'll have to bring you back in the
future to talk some more. And if somebody wants to

(53:33):
my sons hopefully yeah, yeah, good idea. If somebody wants
to wants to check everything out of course, uh, the
websites and the ticker. But if they're listening of course
or can't see the ticker, it is God's Universal antidote
dot com correct, dot org or dot org. Yes, yep,

(54:00):
I see it going by God Universalantidote dot org on tap.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Fun. Don't look on Google Go go's blocketing.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Everything. I need to know everything.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
See if it comes up. I don't think you'll see
it unless things are changing.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Oh yeah, I was able to access the website on
Google Chrome, but not the I. But I didn't do
anything on a Google search.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
So yeah, so go search no Google Chrome. Yes, you're right,
that is true. Hey, God bless you guys. I really
appreciate it. Was good. Beat you. That was a great
red Pill expo, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Absolutely that was great and and God bless you as
wealth on tap for next week, of course, we will
be joined by Courtney Turner. Yes, need a freedom fighter
and podcaster just like us. Be an interesting conversation. Mark Uh, definitely.

(55:08):
Uh send your send your best, our best to your
sons too.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
So I appreciate you guys. God bless you. It's say
hi to New Hampshire. Okay, absolutely free or die.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Hey, the first free estate in the Union.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Yep, it's true though number one.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
Yes, God bless you, see you next time.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Yes, and ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for
tuning into Patriot Confederation. God save the Republic of the
United States of America.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
We will live back then.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
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