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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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are honest are not concerned with your watchful vigilance, and
those with integrity are not concerned with your discernment. Every
American is obligated to voice their concerns and stand up
for their freedoms and liberties. One nation honor God Invisible,
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
We are the men in the arena.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We are the Patriot Confederation.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
We live back down from by.
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We're un freed Americans.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
All right, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Patriot Confederation for
what is the eighteenth of November twenty twenty five. I'm
your host, Dad Billy out of Twin Falls, out of Hope,
joined as always by John Grovener out of Nashville, Hampshire,
New England.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
How's it going up there?
Speaker 5 (01:18):
It's going, Billy, you know, same old, same Oh here
in New England. I'm sorry, I ran out of smart
ass things to say at the opening of the show,
so uh, you know how that goes.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, we'll see. Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Things are in a mess right now and we'll see
what happens after the Epstein files are released.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
But did they vote on that today, Yes.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
They did, and they vote. I don't even know why
they have to vote on doing that. They just just
do it.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
They didn't.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Trump could have just believed them. Sorry, I'm a Trump supporter,
but just the same, if you're wrong, you're wrong, and
he was wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Trump was very wrong on this one for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Anyway, joining us this week, I want to welcome South
African refugee Will to the show. And of course, to
protect his whereabouts whatever, I'm going to ask those that
if you comment in the chat or email me whatever,
if you want any details on Will, I'm not giving
him to you, please do not ask. Okay, I mean
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that's I say. We're not even putting his full name
out there. So anyway, Will, welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Today, I'm good. Thanking yourselves.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Hey, I got no complaints hereer for sure? All right? So, yeah,
I was.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I was roughly I'd have to say, probably about maybe
eight six eight months ago. I can't I can't remember exactly,
but you were a part of the fifty nine people
chosen to come over to the United States as the
South African Refugee program it started. And first off, give
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a little background though, what part of South Africa are
you coming over from.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
We from the furthest northern part in South Africa, Lampopo Province,
so we border both Botswana and Zimbabwe on two sites.
We had four family farms in that area which I
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found out as expropriation claims on. But fortunately for us,
they're still busy with processing and other claims. So the
feedback that the lady from the Land Claims Court gave
is that they first need to finalize the first claims
before they can proceed to the next, so that's in
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the process for us. My siblings are still there and
my mom. My mom refuses to come over. She feels
that she's going to deserve my dad when she comes
over because my dad's buried on the farm, so she
says they must kill her on the farm when they
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come to take it. She's not going to leave my dad.
My siblings. They've applied. They've just advised me this morning
that they've heard from Church Wild Services. There was a
mix up, so they showed on the embassy system as
resettled already and that's why they didn't get any contact.
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But last week or the week before when they changed
to have another additional form to be complete that that's
when they picked up that they stole back in South Africa,
so they hopefully will come across shortly and then we
can all have a safe and peaceful life.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yes, yes, I definitely hope that can happen for sure.
And John, as you know, I've been following the going
ons in South Africa for quite some time. I've had
many conversations with our colleague, Colonel Chris Wyatt, and of
course that's how I met Will.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Was through the colonel.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yes, yes, indeed, and talk about the refugee process. How
difficult was that to get on board with that and
how long did all did this process take?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I think us first fifty nine was quite fortunate. We
were blessed our first fifty nine er group with the
process being quite but they were still thorough. They picked
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up stuff that happened and they asked me about it
where there was some young guys on the farm who
was both intoxicated and under the influence of Dakha, and
they picked up that I ended up in hospital, so
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they wanted to find out how that happened. So they
were really thorough still. But our processions when I sent them.
Male I sent it beginning of March. We came over.
We landed in Washington, d C. On the twelve of May,
and we've just today celebrated our six months with the
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refugee Center locally to America. So they've invited us to
come there and let's see, introduced us to a couple
of people. So yeah, it was a huge achievement for
us to be here six months and to lead the
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way for the other people being persecuted and suffering the
unjust racial discrimination there. My family were fortunate, and I
think our story helped us to gain traction. They came
in the armed wing of the ruling government. The minions
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in the armed wing came in. They fired sixty seven
shots that night in the house. That's all of that.
That's the ones where we could physically count the bullet
holes in the wall and in the door frames, and
they shot my mom and my dad and my elder
sister in that attack. They came in at Corpost twelve,
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and they were trained. They came into the house quietly,
gained access quietly, and then whilst they were inside they
didn't know in which room my dad was sleeping, So
then from the inside of the house. They threw something
out of the window so that my dad was thinking
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they just broke the window, and the moment he stepped
out of the room, they started shooting. We thought it
was electricity and something that's exploding because we saw those
constant sparks up and down in the hallway, and at
that stage my dad only had a revolver, so he
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did fire immediately. They believed that my dad shot the one,
which the leader then killed the leader of the gang
that inter killed him later because he slowed down their
movements because my dad fired two shots from his hip,
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so we assumed there was small blood spots but not
a lot of bleeding where the attacker stood. They were
four in the house and one stood guard outside, so
that's the one who shot my mom when she went
through the window. The one that stood guard outside shot her.
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My dad fired these six shots in the revolver, went
back to the room, and then he was overpowered by them,
but he told all of us to run and get
help from the family. Farm next to us was where
my grandparents were staying, so we were supposed to run there,
but luckily my older sister and younger sister, Deserbate my
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dad and they ran into the kitchen. So they ran
past the attacker that my dad shot, and he didn't
do anything to harm them or to to stop them,
and they grabbed butcher knife. So they came back and
as they entered the room, the guy was shoving the
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pistol in my dad's stomach, saying to him, your white pig. Today,
we're gonna kill you. And at that moment, my elder
sister stabbed to the leader because they had one on
each flank of my dad holding his arms, and the
leader who stood in front of my dad, that pushed
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the gun into his stomach. And when she tried to
stab the leader over my dad's shoulder, she got shot
from the side, so she was shot up just below
her shoulder. It entered her arm and then exited in
the arm pit and inentered the chase and exited more
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or less in the middle of her chest again. So
she had to learn out right with her left hand.
So today, after a lot of physical therapy and extended
time that they had to grant her for an exam,
she can help rite with both hands. So there's always
a silver lining. That's the silver lining for her. She
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can use both hands to write, but they do suffer
in winter time. My dad hasn't. Unfortunately passed during COVID time.
He had a brain aneurysm and they refused to treat
him until he had a negative COVID TESTE. So he
suffered a massive rebleat and he went into a coma,
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was hospitalized for forty days and then passed away. So
when it's cold and winter weather, they suffered from the
injuries and the wounds that they suffered. They wanted to amputate.
My sister's armed today, by the grace of God, she's
medical doctor and she's practicing with both hands. She does
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get her struggles occasionally with the hand, but for the
most part she's she's fully functional. And then we added
on on that we had a film manager that was
shot on a river bank. He saw guys walking into
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our farmland and he went up to them to ask
them what they're doing, and they pulled the gun and
shot him in his head and killed him. So they
they ironed elderly people to death with a clothing eyron.
So it's it's it's really brutal. I they asked me
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on my interview, how do I know it's it's racist driven.
And I'm like, because it's not the brutality of that
attack is not just petty crime like you come in
to steal with theft and all that. There's an object
that they're after with these attacks. We are the object
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that they're after. They out to come and kill us
and intimidate us so that to be by three will
leave the farms and they have access to it. But
the sad story is they've been given farms they in
nineteen ninety four when the supposed the democracy happened in
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South Africa. They've given them the opportunity to choose whether
they wanted the farmland or whether they wanted to be compensated.
And a lot has been compensated. And now years the
underline they've decided to can Now they wanted the farmland again,
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so they double the pins, they get a financial benefit
and they get the farm land. Now eventually they say
that we've stolen it from the black people and the
indigenous black people. But they the ruling party isn't indigenous
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to South Africa. They much like us that came in
a settlers. They came from the northern parts of Africa
and they came down the poy in the sun was
the only indigenous people in the South Africa.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Well, let me cut you off there because we got
to go to our first break. But yeah, this, I mean,
we're definitely going to get into this. And then of course,
you know, the future is a big concern with everything
else going on too. So with that said, will be
back in about two minutes. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
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we are back again, joined by South African refugee Will
and we're gonna get back into it. One thing I
want to elaborate on is you said, you know when
they were going going through the process, but you mentioned daja,
which I will highlight for everyone that you don't know
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what that means. No, it's not methanphetamines, it's not heroin.
It's the South African I believe, the Afrikaans word for marijuana.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yes it is. So those guys that came to the
film was under the influence of alcohol and marijuana.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Okay, But yeah, moving on from that though, is to
pick up where you left off. Yeah, that's that's one
thing I've been hearing ever since I've dived into this subject,
is you know, all the white settlers came over Yonvin
Rebic and his people came over and they killed the
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indigenous people and stole the land, which I know that's
that's not true.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I know that there there was.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
A little bit of conflict between the Koi and San people,
but for the most part, the Koi and San people
basically were the tour guides for Jan van Riebek and
his people, and and they made very peaceful treaties that
were never broken, never broken. And uh, you know, you
take the then the other South Africans that did they
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came over from the north, like you said, from Ethiopia,
from Kenya, from Congo, that migrated down you know, just
just below the sub Saharan line as you call it.
And uh, you know, and then some people will say, well,
they're from Africa and all of Africa is their land.
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Well does that mean that that you know, you take
you take one group from money Canada, they they own
rights from Texas if you're talking about Native Americans. No,
and not only that, they stole in from each other
all the time. It's all about conquest right there.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
So the I mean and the Coy and San people
don't even like being called black. They they prefer colored
which is normally a term used for interracial people in
South Africa. But I've I've talked to a couple of
Coy and San people and they just prefer to be
called colored.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So you know, I give them. I give them that courtesy.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
And uh especially one lady I talk to who lives
in Philadelphia, who is of Son descent, and she's pro apartheid.
I mean, she's a bit more extreme than any white
South African I've ever talked to. To be honest with you,
I mean she wants she's she waves the old South
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African flag. Uh I told her, you know, when it
comes to the clerk, that's that's the name that kind
of leaves a sour taste in my eyes. But but
she likes it. And this is not a white woman
I'm talking about, you know. So, I mean we'll go there. John,
you haven't had it. I know you've been waiting a
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chance to ask some questions. I better leave it to
you because I'm rambling too much.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
No, I was just sitting there listening here. I'm enjoying it.
Uh So, Yeah, there's been a few questions I guess
to ask. Uh So, there's a lot of this you
said that a lot of these crimes are more out
of retaliation as opposed to just basic crimes where they're
just trying to rob people and get out of there.
What do you think that's Do you think that's because
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of apartheid or they just generally racist or what do
you what do you think is behind that?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I think it's because of the leaders that's in the
ruling party and the biggest opposition party that's inciting the violence.
They publicly shout to kill us, kill the boy, kill
the farmer, and then that's groups of thirty thousand plus
that gathers for those meetings and they incite the violence
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and they are justified to use that. Julius Malemma has
recently gotten a little bit shaken where ruling went against him,
but for the most part they were allowed to inside violence.
He said in interviews, it's time to slit the throat
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of whiteness. So it's clear that it's a racial driven
aspect and the crimes as well. They'll come in and
they'll kill or brutally mutilate a guy that wheel chair
bound and they don't steal anything. If it's faith driven
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or other crime driven, they will be something missing or
something taken. But the only thing that's taken is our
dignity and our lives in the process. That's that's what's.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Do you feel like the media is kind of passing
over this because when I read from the media over
here in the States or just online, I see black
people are affected as much as white people when it
comes to farmers and attacks, not talking about brutality, but
just robbery. And they quote it anywhere from five five
black folks to one white person, or sometimes you see
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eleven to twelve, So a love of black folks are
affected compared to one white person. So are there black
people just not are they but plainly being rob but
not brutalized.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
But they what they don't say is that's not white
or black crime, that's black on black crime. So that's
their own people that's kidding them and robbing them. And
no one of us are denying that there is a
crime problem in general, but the brutality towards the white
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people is way more than just a crime problem. There's
everywhere you will get a cell phone stolen in town.
There was just recently yesterday there was an elderly lady
in a security complex in town that was attacked, right,
beaten and a house set alight. So it happens. It's
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widening now to include more urban areas as well, but
the rural areas is their main target. Just in our vicinity.
I can quickly think of five six incidents where they
help orstach people. They tied up workers said to them
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when the farm owner comes in, they need to persuading
to come to them and then they'll attack the farm owner.
So so they are orchestrated and they are well well
trained as well. So yeah, it's a it's a clear
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racial thing. We do not deny that there is the
crime everywhere, but the brutality towards us is way more
than the other way around. And it's it's where we
say it's a racial thing, it's it's black on white
crime where the majority of the you do to get
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the occasional what could that goes out, and we had
that incidence in South Africa where a white guard went
out and he killed a couple of black people, which
is also strongly condoned because no taking of life is justified.
So you do get that guys also, but if you
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look at the figures, it's I don't think it even
contributes to one percent of the killings that we go
through where black skill white people. So it's clearly a
racial driven.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
So you're saying this is coming more from upper leadership
in your government or pushing.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I believe, I firmly believe that where it stems from.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Do you have things over here? We have five O
one C groups or groups, so people that organize and
maybe what's the word here, a chartered or not chartered,
But do you have groups over there doing the same
thing pushing the same sort of narrative that are non government.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Against us. We have the EFF and we have the
MK Party, but it's all politically affiliated, so we don't
really have because the groups that's supposedly not politically affiliated
will be the likes of Kusatu and NAMPU and ahnam NUMSA,
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the mining union, but they their back bone is actually politics.
So I don't think there's any private militia groups or
private groups that targeting us. I think it's all the
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brainwashed followers that's been incited by the rulers and the
leadership of the ANC government and the major political parties.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Unfortunately, emotional contagion's a thing, and it's a terrible thing
because people feel like they're doing the right thing because
larger the group is telling them to do so. And
and people do horrible things just simply because they're lad
to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Well, we've seen over here, you know, we've seen Maxine Waters.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
If you see somebody from that establishment, you let them
know they're not welcome. Then Kamala Harris even came out
and said that they you know, they need to they
need to blow off steam by burning and looting and
and and letting the world know that they're so oppressed,
you know. And this all started the seed was planted
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in South Africa.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Nelson Mandela really didn't say it out loud, but uh,
you know what once he was And Julius Malema, who
you mentioned, he made a very good point when he
went up to Oxford in the UK. He went to
Oxford University for elect and and he said that when
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Medema took office, he was too old to properly lead
the revolution, so he left it to the younger generation.
I mean, that's so one of the old you know,
Julius Malima being the liar that he is.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Right there, I don't believe he was lying.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah, and they I think because the whole world watched
when a part had stopped, the whole world's the whole
world was watching in South Africa. So I think that
the advisors to Nelson Mandela was very clever and advised
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him accordingly that if he sits a foot wrong, now
the whole world will view that and see that. So
I think he pretty much, according to my opinion, went
against his character there. If you look at his history
of car woman's and etc. He went against his character
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to accept us and accept that our invernation and find
this pretty picture for the world stage. That's honestly my opinion.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I've got the I've got the same opinion as you brother. Anyway,
where Wow, it's going by way too fast because there's
so much to talk about.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
But we're already at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
So that means we've got to take our bottom of
the hour break and then talk about the future of
the US and how how you feel is I'm sure, yeah,
I know you're happy to be here, but there's got
to be some alarming concerns.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
So with that said, we'll be back in about three minutes.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
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There's Christmas gifts ideas and all kinds of goodies you
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to talk about concerns for the future. Obviously you've been
here for six months. But one thing when South the
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South African refugees arrives, that that group of fifty nine
that you were a part of, Number one Antifa was like,
let's find out who they are and have protesters go
to their houses.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
But luckily, you know, that's like, that's part of the
reason why we're not sharing any information on you, no
social media.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
You know, we're not giving out your full name.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Is that's part of the reason why, you know, because
I mean, you left, you left South Africa so you
would stop being terrorized, and here you come over here
and of course there are people that want to terrorize you.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Is they actually did some effort because reporter flew down
to Twin Falls and stop the refugee center to find
out where we stay, and followed the refugee center bus
when they dropped us at home. And then she was
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walking up and down the street in front of her house,
and my daughter came and said that there is someone
walking up and down. I'm like, maybe they lost, maybe
they're looking for someone. And then later when my wife
went out, the lady approached her and said she's looking
for their neighbors, and my wife stepped across to the
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neighbors side and said she's just seen them. And then
the lady approached her and said, but aren't you part
of the first fifty nine and apologies, and then she
started asking questions, but my wife wasn't aware that she's
a reporter, so she answered a couple of questions, and
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then she stopped her and said to Kelly, me introduced myself.
I'm a reporter from this newspaper. And my wife said,
we're not interested in talking to you.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
And real quick, I believe that was well the Times News.
That's that's local to my area. But I believe they
flew in from New York. So yes, Colonel Wyatt said
the New York Slimes.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yes, yes, So my wife said, we're not interested because
we took a decision not to to speak with them
because they're pretty much biased. I think if President Trump
has to say the Earth is around, there will be
a lot of flat Earth believers in the in the circles.
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So yeah, so we said no, we don't want to
speak with her, and my daughter came running in and
said that there's a lady that is bubbing my wife.
So I went outside and I said, sorry, your excuse,
you can leave the premises. We're not interested in speaking
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with you. And then she approached approached out our twelve
year old daughter. She said, since your mom and dad
doesn't want to speak with us, what's your opinion. And
I'm like, nope, you're not gonna speak with her. We're
not gonna speak with you. And I said to my daughter,
please go inside. So we went inside and she hanged
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around another day, but we called it Twen police and
they came out quickly. They drove up and down, they
chased it away. So that was that was really a blessing.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Real quick.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
So that was right after you were dropped off. So
basically the moment you got into town. Yes, they were
here to harass you.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yes, yeah, we hardly settled. So because we were still
under the refugee training program where they because they teach
people to speak English and they teach them proper manners
and etiquette and all that stuff. So that's more for
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the people that's coming from their rural areas that refugees.
So we had to attend just for orientation purposes. So
they taught us stuff like driving and all that. So,
and it was still during that period, so it was
I wouldn't even say it was a week or two
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in we went even in the permanent We were barely
moved to the permanent accommodation.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Okay, yes, well yeah, and yeah, the boy time is
just flying. We got another five minutes before our last
break and then our final segment. But you know, I've
got to tell you concerns I've had. This is this
was long before you came over.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Here.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Is when Biden left the border, the southern border wide open.
We had large caravans of immigrants coming in, you know,
and of course we see incidents like Lake and Riley
who's killed by it by a Venezuellan criminal immigrant who
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didn't belong here in the first place, you know, and
things like that. Then of course there's the threat of communism,
which is pretty much there in South Africa already, and
so and then of course a lot of people don't
know this, but to Gavin Newsom, of course, teasing his presidency,
he's he's already saying that once he gets into office,
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I'm not pitting many people know this. He says he's
going to go after the South African refugees and deport
them back to South Africa.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
That's part of his plan.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
And and then you know, New York just just elected
Zora Mondomni for their for their mayor. So you know,
you get over here, and of course you got a
sire relief on your shoulders because you know the terry
you have to face in South Africa, the unspeakable crimes
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that you know that I can't I can't even say
in full detail of what happens on a South African farm.
You only give you only gave a little taste of
what happens there. You know, they're far worse things that
happen that we cannot talk about, you know, but the
concern has to be so alarming, you know, with you know, Madonnie,
(35:30):
he's yeah, he's only the mayor of New York, which
is still the mayor is pretty low on the totem
pull the politics, but he's he's already looking for extra power,
you know.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
And of course he's he was he was born in.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Uh just escaping up Uganda. And he doesn't even look Uganda.
And somebody said he's Indian. He doesn't look Indian to me.
He looks Middle Eastern Arabian, Iranian, Iraqi. Whatever he may be,
I don't know, but you know he wants to implement
charial law and we're basically under sharia law. There's rape
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is not even in the vocabulary, you know. So I
just got to ask before see, we got three minutes
to our final break. But you know, this has to
be very very concerning to you with all this happening.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I'm saying that we grateful for every day that we
hear and we say thanks to the Lord every single
day that we we here, and to see my kids
being able to play outside. But it is concerning because
our future is still in jeopardy because once President Trump
(36:59):
isn't that hour and the Democratic Party comes in, because
we the the football that they play political games with
I am I'm sure that they're gonna talk at us
and come after us, and they they vote. They had
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that no King's rally, they had a table that said,
and sign up for communism. I don't think they know
what communism.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Involves, and they don't.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
They Just this week we had an assignment for the
college where we had to study communism like China, for example,
those people the media portrays because everything in communism is
government control, so they will reflect and they will portray
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only what's good for the world's eye. But the people
in the fact is in China they get six sense.
And what is the purpose of communism that they so
vividly ramp on. Is equal opportunities for everybody, equal income,
the eradication of higher income groups, the eradication of the
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different class social classes. And that's definitely not ever what's
happening in the communism community.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
There is equality, mind you.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Everybody's equally poor, yes, except for the said the leaders exactly.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
And and socialism, yeah, there's a lot of people who
says that they're not communists, they're socialists. Socialists is where
communism started. So communism stemmed from socialism. So there's there's
no distinct difference that you can do all this time
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between socialism and communism. But I think the people should
do a real study before they they promote so vividly
for communism. They have no idea what they sign up for.
They they will be limited in movement, they will be
limited in income, they will be limited in religion. There's
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so many stuff that's being sacrificed under communist culture. So no,
I will I don't. I can't think why they will
even ask them to sign up for something like that.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Well, they need to, you know, they need to talk
to people like you, which you already got a real
taste of it before you left. They need to talk
to my friend Peter Bodenka, who who barely escaped.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yugoslavia by the skin of his teeth.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Mind you're yeah, Czechoslovakia into Yugoslavia and he barely got out.
So you know, they need to talk to people like him.
And then, of course, who wants to live under Sharia
law where you have to convert to Islam. No, anyway,
let's take our final break and wrap things up in
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just under two minutes. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we
are back and just wrapping things up here. And now
I just want to backtrack a little bit when I
was talking about the mass migration of illegals coming in,
not just from the southern border, that came in from
Canada too, But yeah, our our whole nation got flooded.
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And if you ask me, I'm still not satisfied there
we're not deporting fast enough. But one thing that just
came to a big concern to me during that time
too was, you know, I always I always know that
whichever direction South Africa goes, the US often follows. I mean,
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now we're talking, you know, inciting racial uprising and violence
started in South Africa and it's happening here. Then of course,
you know, pulling doing things like pulling down statues and
things like that all started in South Africa. One of
the big things that just came to a big concern
(41:22):
to me is I have family who have farms and
ranches that live in rural areas, and the police aren't
gonna get there fast enough to help them if if
something were to occur. So, you know, and I'm thinking,
are are are we going to have these thugs go
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go rob my family members? And not only that, too,
but obviously you know, they're pushing for gun control so
hard and altering the laws. I mean, there was one
farm attack that I've mentioned before where the victim was
being He was stabbed in the ear with a screwdriver
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and they had driven that screwdriver into his ear. He
managed to grab a pistol and kill his assailant, but
he's he's now behind bars for first degree premeditated murder.
So you know, either either rotten prison and or let
them hurt you, let them kill you, let them rape you.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I mean this, That's where my concern is now, is
our rural area is going to be more dangerous than
the than the big cities.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
My opinion is it's the easiest targets because you're so
far from civilization and you're so far from help, So
it's the easiest targets. It's the people that's in the
hoodle areas. But that said, I would gladly go to
a rural area because once you've lived in a rural area,
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we grew up on the farce. You don't want anything else.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
No, I love the piece of quiet. I agree with
you there.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
You know, my wife prefers to hear horns honking and
tire squealing things like that.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I like hearing crickets.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yes, nature, I am a nature fanatic, so yeah, it
coms my soul and I can see God's creation, so
it's just absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yes, No, John, I'm sorry to keep you so quiet.
I'm kind of curious.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
I'm wonder before the breaking said something about concern that
you may be shipped back out to South Africa if
somebody else comes into power. So my question to you
on that matter is were you brought here for resettlement
purposes or were you brought here as an assaile.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
No, for resettlement purposes, so we came over as refugees.
Everybody tries to comfort us that no refugee, unless he
breaks the law, has ever been sent back. But I
I'm still cautious because of the amount of backlash and
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hatred towards us that came across. I'm still cautious that
even though it's never happened, it's never to say that
we're not going to be the first that it's going
to happen to.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
So yeah, I believe he settlement. You gotta be here
for five years before you can apply for citizenship where asylum.
It's only one. That's why I had asked. I was
kind of hoping you to set asilum you do have.
I'm wondering if you can change that status because you
came here out of fear of being persecuted for your race,
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and that is a qualification for asylum. So it bears
to research the laws a little bit.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Cef what Uncle Colonel Wyatt and Professor Gee spoke about there,
it's two different, completely different things. You you had to
flee by your own expense, come to America and then
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apply for asylum. And because we came over with the
assistance of the United States as refugees, that that's not
an option for us.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Oh I see, yeah, and not only that too, But
you're not coming over here, you know, looking for a freebie.
I know that you had like your first months of
rent and bill Bill's utilities paid and things like that.
But obviously you know you're you're You've got that old
(46:08):
school pride to where you know you you want to
make things work for yourself, you know, I mean, and
and that that's another thing too. When you see somebody,
I just got to ask you, does that frustrate you
when you see somebody coming over from like the Mexican border,
you know who, even though even if they signed the
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signed the guest book on the way in legally, but
they they just want to come over here. They don't
want to work, and and and the government saying, okay,
that's fine, we'll we'll give you food stamps, we'll give
you snap benefits, we'll pay we'll have the taxpayers pay
for your rent and all that. Now, Yeah, you, as
an immigrant yourself, how how frustrating your situations like that
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to you?
Speaker 3 (46:53):
For me, it's quite frustrating because it gives the whole
immigration and immigrant and refugee thing a bad rap. We
were all pushing to get employed as quickly as possible,
to start playing taxes as quickly as possible, and to
contribute out of thanks and gratefulness for the opportunity that
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we got. One of the first things we got with
that when we came here is to go buy an
American flag and put it up in front of our house.
Because we were so grateful and so proud to be here.
And then I see people coming in and they burn
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the American flag. That's really upsetting for me to see
someone burned the American flag. If you do not want
to be here, don't be here. Leave then, but don't
kick the hand that feeds you.
Speaker 5 (47:56):
It's evident to us that we have people that come
to this country because they want to sway our politics
in favor of their own nation at home. We see
that a lot right now with Palestine, who's trying to
sway us against Israel. It's all politically motivated. Unfortunately, we
have to cope with that, but we appreciate it. Once
folks like yourself rightfully immigrate here and want to assimilate,
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because that's what immigration is supposed to be about here
in the United States.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Yes, and you need to be grateful to your host country.
And every single day. I don't think there is a
day that's sports since we came here six months ago
that we don't pray and say thank you to God
and thank you for this opportunity. Thank you for the
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opportunity to see my kids play safely and not be
concerned that they will be right in front of us
to intimidate us.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
So, yeah, we'll get too complacent. Don't get too comfortable,
because we have our own crime issues here in the
United States. Don't keep an eye on your children please do.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, no, I do, I do, But it's not that
they have to be under twenty four seven lockdown like
they used to be. Right.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
No, No, you're feel imprisoned in your own home.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
It's what you're saying. Well, no, house actually look like
a present because you've got at the porch area, it's
all fenced in web gates that's locked, then a gate
at the kitchen door, then a gate to sep right,
the sleeping rooms, the bedrooms from the rest of the house.
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You've got burglar bars from the inside of the windows
and burglar bars from the outside of the windows, just
in a an attempt to hear them when they come
in to be prepared somewhat.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
So yeah, yes, oh no, you're going to find that
everywhere though, and honestly that part that has never bothered me.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Now, one quick note to.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Just you know, I'm grateful to have you guys over here,
especially I'm hoping that more africanors come over here, and
I if they don't share their agricultural secrets, I can understand.
It's like there's recipes you don't share. But if they
come over here and farm, I mean, John, I don't
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know if you ever looked at the Kalahari desert, but
that the Kalahari desert is harsh and I would not
want to live there. These people turned a hell into
an oasis.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
And now that's.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Anyway. We are out of time.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Will I want to thank you very much for joining us,
and of course you and I we we need to
speak more, we need to go out and do something.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
So yes, I hope to hear from you soon. Thank
you for having me, and thank you for having the
opportunity to hopefully try and open some eyes to what
we experienced and what the people back there are still experienced.
And that was our aim. Is also to get off
the system as quickly as possible, to give the opportunity
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for other people to come over.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
Absolutely well. On tap for next week, we're going to
be speaking with Leslie Wolfe. She's running for office here
in Twin Falls. I forgot exactly where, but of course
she's endorsed by our very best and we'll be looking
forward speaking to her next week. Will God bless you
(51:45):
and we will be speaking again soon.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
God bless you to thank you.
Speaker 4 (51:49):
You're welcome, and ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much
for tuning in. To Patriot Confederation. God save the Republic
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All right, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Patriot Confederation for
what is the eighteenth of November twenty twenty five. I'm
your host, Dad Billy out of Twin Falls, out of Hope,
joined as always by John Grovener out of Nashville, Hampshire,
New England.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
How's it going up there?
Speaker 5 (01:18):
It's going, Billy, you know, same old, same Oh here
in New England. I'm sorry, I ran out of smart
ass things to say at the opening of the show,
so uh, you know how that goes.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, we'll see. Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Things are in a mess right now and we'll see
what happens after the Epstein files are released.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
But did they vote on that today, Yes.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
They did, and they vote. I don't even know why
they have to vote on doing that. They just just
do it.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
They didn't.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Trump could have just believed them. Sorry, I'm a Trump supporter,
but just the same, if you're wrong, you're wrong, and
he was wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Trump was very wrong on this one for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Anyway, joining us this week, I want to welcome South
African refugee Will to the show. And of course, to
protect his whereabouts whatever, I'm going to ask those that
if you comment in the chat or email me whatever,
if you want any details on Will, I'm not giving
him to you, please do not ask. Okay, I mean
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that's I say. We're not even putting his full name
out there. So anyway, Will, welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Today, I'm good. Thanking yourselves.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Hey, I got no complaints hereer for sure? All right? So, yeah,
I was.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I was roughly I'd have to say, probably about maybe
eight six eight months ago. I can't I can't remember exactly,
but you were a part of the fifty nine people
chosen to come over to the United States as the
South African Refugee program it started. And first off, give
(03:02):
a little background though, what part of South Africa are
you coming over from.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
We from the furthest northern part in South Africa, Lampopo Province,
so we border both Botswana and Zimbabwe on two sites.
We had four family farms in that area which I
(03:30):
found out as expropriation claims on. But fortunately for us,
they're still busy with processing and other claims. So the
feedback that the lady from the Land Claims Court gave
is that they first need to finalize the first claims
before they can proceed to the next, so that's in
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the process for us. My siblings are still there and
my mom. My mom refuses to come over. She feels
that she's going to deserve my dad when she comes
over because my dad's buried on the farm, so she
says they must kill her on the farm when they
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come to take it. She's not going to leave my dad.
My siblings. They've applied. They've just advised me this morning
that they've heard from Church Wild Services. There was a
mix up, so they showed on the embassy system as
resettled already and that's why they didn't get any contact.
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But last week or the week before when they changed
to have another additional form to be complete that that's
when they picked up that they stole back in South Africa,
so they hopefully will come across shortly and then we
can all have a safe and peaceful life.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yes, yes, I definitely hope that can happen for sure.
And John, as you know, I've been following the going
ons in South Africa for quite some time. I've had
many conversations with our colleague, Colonel Chris Wyatt, and of
course that's how I met Will.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Was through the colonel.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yes, yes, indeed, and talk about the refugee process. How
difficult was that to get on board with that and
how long did all did this process take?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I think us first fifty nine was quite fortunate. We
were blessed our first fifty nine er group with the
process being quite but they were still thorough. They picked
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up stuff that happened and they asked me about it
where there was some young guys on the farm who
was both intoxicated and under the influence of Dakha, and
they picked up that I ended up in hospital, so
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they wanted to find out how that happened. So they
were really thorough still. But our processions when I sent them.
Male I sent it beginning of March. We came over.
We landed in Washington, d C. On the twelve of May,
and we've just today celebrated our six months with the
(06:47):
refugee Center locally to America. So they've invited us to
come there and let's see, introduced us to a couple
of people. So yeah, it was a huge achievement for
us to be here six months and to lead the
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way for the other people being persecuted and suffering the
unjust racial discrimination there. My family were fortunate, and I
think our story helped us to gain traction. They came
in the armed wing of the ruling government. The minions
(07:34):
in the armed wing came in. They fired sixty seven
shots that night in the house. That's all of that.
That's the ones where we could physically count the bullet
holes in the wall and in the door frames, and
they shot my mom and my dad and my elder
sister in that attack. They came in at Corpost twelve,
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and they were trained. They came into the house quietly,
gained access quietly, and then whilst they were inside they
didn't know in which room my dad was sleeping, So
then from the inside of the house. They threw something
out of the window so that my dad was thinking
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they just broke the window, and the moment he stepped
out of the room, they started shooting. We thought it
was electricity and something that's exploding because we saw those
constant sparks up and down in the hallway, and at
that stage my dad only had a revolver, so he
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did fire immediately. They believed that my dad shot the one,
which the leader then killed the leader of the gang
that inter killed him later because he slowed down their
movements because my dad fired two shots from his hip,
(09:03):
so we assumed there was small blood spots but not
a lot of bleeding where the attacker stood. They were
four in the house and one stood guard outside, so
that's the one who shot my mom when she went
through the window. The one that stood guard outside shot her.
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My dad fired these six shots in the revolver, went
back to the room, and then he was overpowered by them,
but he told all of us to run and get
help from the family. Farm next to us was where
my grandparents were staying, so we were supposed to run there,
but luckily my older sister and younger sister, Deserbate my
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dad and they ran into the kitchen. So they ran
past the attacker that my dad shot, and he didn't
do anything to harm them or to to stop them,
and they grabbed butcher knife. So they came back and
as they entered the room, the guy was shoving the
(10:10):
pistol in my dad's stomach, saying to him, your white pig. Today,
we're gonna kill you. And at that moment, my elder
sister stabbed to the leader because they had one on
each flank of my dad holding his arms, and the
leader who stood in front of my dad, that pushed
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the gun into his stomach. And when she tried to
stab the leader over my dad's shoulder, she got shot
from the side, so she was shot up just below
her shoulder. It entered her arm and then exited in
the arm pit and inentered the chase and exited more
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or less in the middle of her chest again. So
she had to learn out right with her left hand.
So today, after a lot of physical therapy and extended
time that they had to grant her for an exam,
she can help rite with both hands. So there's always
a silver lining. That's the silver lining for her. She
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can use both hands to write, but they do suffer
in winter time. My dad hasn't. Unfortunately passed during COVID time.
He had a brain aneurysm and they refused to treat
him until he had a negative COVID TESTE. So he
suffered a massive rebleat and he went into a coma,
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was hospitalized for forty days and then passed away. So
when it's cold and winter weather, they suffered from the
injuries and the wounds that they suffered. They wanted to amputate.
My sister's armed today, by the grace of God, she's
medical doctor and she's practicing with both hands. She does
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get her struggles occasionally with the hand, but for the
most part she's she's fully functional. And then we added
on on that we had a film manager that was
shot on a river bank. He saw guys walking into
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our farmland and he went up to them to ask
them what they're doing, and they pulled the gun and
shot him in his head and killed him. So they
they ironed elderly people to death with a clothing eyron.
So it's it's it's really brutal. I they asked me
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on my interview, how do I know it's it's racist driven.
And I'm like, because it's not the brutality of that
attack is not just petty crime like you come in
to steal with theft and all that. There's an object
that they're after with these attacks. We are the object
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that they're after. They out to come and kill us
and intimidate us so that to be by three will
leave the farms and they have access to it. But
the sad story is they've been given farms they in
nineteen ninety four when the supposed the democracy happened in
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South Africa. They've given them the opportunity to choose whether
they wanted the farmland or whether they wanted to be compensated.
And a lot has been compensated. And now years the
underline they've decided to can Now they wanted the farmland again,
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so they double the pins, they get a financial benefit
and they get the farm land. Now eventually they say
that we've stolen it from the black people and the
indigenous black people. But they the ruling party isn't indigenous
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to South Africa. They much like us that came in
a settlers. They came from the northern parts of Africa
and they came down the poy in the sun was
the only indigenous people in the South Africa.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Well, let me cut you off there because we got
to go to our first break. But yeah, this, I mean,
we're definitely going to get into this. And then of course,
you know, the future is a big concern with everything
else going on too. So with that said, will be
back in about two minutes. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
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we are back again, joined by South African refugee Will
and we're gonna get back into it. One thing I
want to elaborate on is you said, you know when
they were going going through the process, but you mentioned daja,
which I will highlight for everyone that you don't know
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what that means. No, it's not methanphetamines, it's not heroin.
It's the South African I believe, the Afrikaans word for marijuana.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yes it is. So those guys that came to the
film was under the influence of alcohol and marijuana.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Okay, But yeah, moving on from that though, is to
pick up where you left off. Yeah, that's that's one
thing I've been hearing ever since I've dived into this subject,
is you know, all the white settlers came over Yonvin
Rebic and his people came over and they killed the
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indigenous people and stole the land, which I know that's
that's not true.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I know that there there was.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
A little bit of conflict between the Koi and San people,
but for the most part, the Koi and San people
basically were the tour guides for Jan van Riebek and
his people, and and they made very peaceful treaties that
were never broken, never broken. And uh, you know, you
take the then the other South Africans that did they
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came over from the north, like you said, from Ethiopia,
from Kenya, from Congo, that migrated down you know, just
just below the sub Saharan line as you call it.
And uh, you know, and then some people will say, well,
they're from Africa and all of Africa is their land.
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Well does that mean that that you know, you take
you take one group from money Canada, they they own
rights from Texas if you're talking about Native Americans. No,
and not only that, they stole in from each other
all the time. It's all about conquest right there.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
So the I mean and the Coy and San people
don't even like being called black. They they prefer colored
which is normally a term used for interracial people in
South Africa. But I've I've talked to a couple of
Coy and San people and they just prefer to be
called colored.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So you know, I give them. I give them that courtesy.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
And uh especially one lady I talk to who lives
in Philadelphia, who is of Son descent, and she's pro apartheid.
I mean, she's a bit more extreme than any white
South African I've ever talked to. To be honest with you,
I mean she wants she's she waves the old South
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African flag. Uh I told her, you know, when it
comes to the clerk, that's that's the name that kind
of leaves a sour taste in my eyes. But but
she likes it. And this is not a white woman
I'm talking about, you know. So, I mean we'll go there. John,
you haven't had it. I know you've been waiting a
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chance to ask some questions. I better leave it to
you because I'm rambling too much.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
No, I was just sitting there listening here. I'm enjoying it.
Uh So, Yeah, there's been a few questions I guess
to ask. Uh So, there's a lot of this you
said that a lot of these crimes are more out
of retaliation as opposed to just basic crimes where they're
just trying to rob people and get out of there.
What do you think that's Do you think that's because
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of apartheid or they just generally racist or what do
you what do you think is behind that?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I think it's because of the leaders that's in the
ruling party and the biggest opposition party that's inciting the violence.
They publicly shout to kill us, kill the boy, kill
the farmer, and then that's groups of thirty thousand plus
that gathers for those meetings and they incite the violence
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and they are justified to use that. Julius Malemma has
recently gotten a little bit shaken where ruling went against him,
but for the most part they were allowed to inside violence.
He said in interviews, it's time to slit the throat
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of whiteness. So it's clear that it's a racial driven
aspect and the crimes as well. They'll come in and
they'll kill or brutally mutilate a guy that wheel chair
bound and they don't steal anything. If it's faith driven
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or other crime driven, they will be something missing or
something taken. But the only thing that's taken is our
dignity and our lives in the process. That's that's what's.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Do you feel like the media is kind of passing
over this because when I read from the media over
here in the States or just online, I see black
people are affected as much as white people when it
comes to farmers and attacks, not talking about brutality, but
just robbery. And they quote it anywhere from five five
black folks to one white person, or sometimes you see
(20:46):
eleven to twelve, So a love of black folks are
affected compared to one white person. So are there black
people just not are they but plainly being rob but
not brutalized.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
But they what they don't say is that's not white
or black crime, that's black on black crime. So that's
their own people that's kidding them and robbing them. And
no one of us are denying that there is a
crime problem in general, but the brutality towards the white
(21:16):
people is way more than just a crime problem. There's
everywhere you will get a cell phone stolen in town.
There was just recently yesterday there was an elderly lady
in a security complex in town that was attacked, right,
beaten and a house set alight. So it happens. It's
(21:46):
widening now to include more urban areas as well, but
the rural areas is their main target. Just in our vicinity.
I can quickly think of five six incidents where they
help orstach people. They tied up workers said to them
(22:08):
when the farm owner comes in, they need to persuading
to come to them and then they'll attack the farm owner.
So so they are orchestrated and they are well well
trained as well. So yeah, it's a it's a clear
(22:30):
racial thing. We do not deny that there is the
crime everywhere, but the brutality towards us is way more
than the other way around. And it's it's where we
say it's a racial thing, it's it's black on white
crime where the majority of the you do to get
(22:54):
the occasional what could that goes out, and we had
that incidence in South Africa where a white guard went
out and he killed a couple of black people, which
is also strongly condoned because no taking of life is justified.
So you do get that guys also, but if you
(23:17):
look at the figures, it's I don't think it even
contributes to one percent of the killings that we go
through where black skill white people. So it's clearly a
racial driven.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
So you're saying this is coming more from upper leadership
in your government or pushing.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I believe, I firmly believe that where it stems from.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Do you have things over here? We have five O
one C groups or groups, so people that organize and
maybe what's the word here, a chartered or not chartered,
But do you have groups over there doing the same
thing pushing the same sort of narrative that are non government.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Against us. We have the EFF and we have the
MK Party, but it's all politically affiliated, so we don't
really have because the groups that's supposedly not politically affiliated
will be the likes of Kusatu and NAMPU and ahnam NUMSA,
(24:26):
the mining union, but they their back bone is actually politics.
So I don't think there's any private militia groups or
private groups that targeting us. I think it's all the
(24:47):
brainwashed followers that's been incited by the rulers and the
leadership of the ANC government and the major political parties.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Unfortunately, emotional contagion's a thing, and it's a terrible thing
because people feel like they're doing the right thing because
larger the group is telling them to do so. And
and people do horrible things just simply because they're lad
to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Well, we've seen over here, you know, we've seen Maxine Waters.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
If you see somebody from that establishment, you let them
know they're not welcome. Then Kamala Harris even came out
and said that they you know, they need to they
need to blow off steam by burning and looting and
and and letting the world know that they're so oppressed,
you know. And this all started the seed was planted
(25:38):
in South Africa.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Nelson Mandela really didn't say it out loud, but uh,
you know what once he was And Julius Malema, who
you mentioned, he made a very good point when he
went up to Oxford in the UK. He went to
Oxford University for elect and and he said that when
(26:04):
Medema took office, he was too old to properly lead
the revolution, so he left it to the younger generation.
I mean, that's so one of the old you know,
Julius Malima being the liar that he is.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Right there, I don't believe he was lying.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah, and they I think because the whole world watched
when a part had stopped, the whole world's the whole
world was watching in South Africa. So I think that
the advisors to Nelson Mandela was very clever and advised
(26:45):
him accordingly that if he sits a foot wrong, now
the whole world will view that and see that. So
I think he pretty much, according to my opinion, went
against his character there. If you look at his history
of car woman's and etc. He went against his character
(27:07):
to accept us and accept that our invernation and find
this pretty picture for the world stage. That's honestly my opinion.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I've got the I've got the same opinion as you brother. Anyway,
where Wow, it's going by way too fast because there's
so much to talk about.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
But we're already at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
So that means we've got to take our bottom of
the hour break and then talk about the future of
the US and how how you feel is I'm sure, yeah,
I know you're happy to be here, but there's got
to be some alarming concerns.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
So with that said, we'll be back in about three minutes.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back. I love
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Speaker 2 (28:20):
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There's Christmas gifts ideas and all kinds of goodies you
can look into. So anyway, moving on now, I want
to talk about concerns for the future. Obviously you've been
here for six months. But one thing when South the
(28:42):
South African refugees arrives, that that group of fifty nine
that you were a part of, Number one Antifa was like,
let's find out who they are and have protesters go
to their houses.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
But luckily, you know, that's like, that's part of the
reason why we're not sharing any information on you, no
social media.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
You know, we're not giving out your full name.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Is that's part of the reason why, you know, because
I mean, you left, you left South Africa so you
would stop being terrorized, and here you come over here
and of course there are people that want to terrorize you.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Is they actually did some effort because reporter flew down
to Twin Falls and stop the refugee center to find
out where we stay, and followed the refugee center bus
when they dropped us at home. And then she was
(29:46):
walking up and down the street in front of her house,
and my daughter came and said that there is someone
walking up and down. I'm like, maybe they lost, maybe
they're looking for someone. And then later when my wife
went out, the lady approached her and said she's looking
for their neighbors, and my wife stepped across to the
(30:09):
neighbors side and said she's just seen them. And then
the lady approached her and said, but aren't you part
of the first fifty nine and apologies, and then she
started asking questions, but my wife wasn't aware that she's
a reporter, so she answered a couple of questions, and
(30:30):
then she stopped her and said to Kelly, me introduced myself.
I'm a reporter from this newspaper. And my wife said,
we're not interested in talking to you.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
And real quick, I believe that was well the Times News.
That's that's local to my area. But I believe they
flew in from New York. So yes, Colonel Wyatt said
the New York Slimes.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yes, yes, So my wife said, we're not interested because
we took a decision not to to speak with them
because they're pretty much biased. I think if President Trump
has to say the Earth is around, there will be
a lot of flat Earth believers in the in the circles.
(31:23):
So yeah, so we said no, we don't want to
speak with her, and my daughter came running in and
said that there's a lady that is bubbing my wife.
So I went outside and I said, sorry, your excuse,
you can leave the premises. We're not interested in speaking
(31:43):
with you. And then she approached approached out our twelve
year old daughter. She said, since your mom and dad
doesn't want to speak with us, what's your opinion. And
I'm like, nope, you're not gonna speak with her. We're
not gonna speak with you. And I said to my daughter,
please go inside. So we went inside and she hanged
(32:05):
around another day, but we called it Twen police and
they came out quickly. They drove up and down, they
chased it away. So that was that was really a blessing.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Real quick.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
So that was right after you were dropped off. So
basically the moment you got into town. Yes, they were
here to harass you.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yes, yeah, we hardly settled. So because we were still
under the refugee training program where they because they teach
people to speak English and they teach them proper manners
and etiquette and all that stuff. So that's more for
(32:58):
the people that's coming from their rural areas that refugees.
So we had to attend just for orientation purposes. So
they taught us stuff like driving and all that. So,
and it was still during that period, so it was
I wouldn't even say it was a week or two
(33:19):
in we went even in the permanent We were barely
moved to the permanent accommodation.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Okay, yes, well yeah, and yeah, the boy time is
just flying. We got another five minutes before our last
break and then our final segment. But you know, I've
got to tell you concerns I've had. This is this
was long before you came over.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Here.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Is when Biden left the border, the southern border wide open.
We had large caravans of immigrants coming in, you know,
and of course we see incidents like Lake and Riley
who's killed by it by a Venezuellan criminal immigrant who
(34:12):
didn't belong here in the first place, you know, and
things like that. Then of course there's the threat of communism,
which is pretty much there in South Africa already, and
so and then of course a lot of people don't
know this, but to Gavin Newsom, of course, teasing his presidency,
he's he's already saying that once he gets into office,
(34:34):
I'm not pitting many people know this. He says he's
going to go after the South African refugees and deport
them back to South Africa.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
That's part of his plan.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
And and then you know, New York just just elected
Zora Mondomni for their for their mayor. So you know,
you get over here, and of course you got a
sire relief on your shoulders because you know the terry
you have to face in South Africa, the unspeakable crimes
(35:08):
that you know that I can't I can't even say
in full detail of what happens on a South African farm.
You only give you only gave a little taste of
what happens there. You know, they're far worse things that
happen that we cannot talk about, you know, but the
concern has to be so alarming, you know, with you know, Madonnie,
(35:30):
he's yeah, he's only the mayor of New York, which
is still the mayor is pretty low on the totem
pull the politics, but he's he's already looking for extra power,
you know.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
And of course he's he was he was born in.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Uh just escaping up Uganda. And he doesn't even look Uganda.
And somebody said he's Indian. He doesn't look Indian to me.
He looks Middle Eastern Arabian, Iranian, Iraqi. Whatever he may be,
I don't know, but you know he wants to implement
charial law and we're basically under sharia law. There's rape
(36:12):
is not even in the vocabulary, you know. So I
just got to ask before see, we got three minutes
to our final break. But you know, this has to
be very very concerning to you with all this happening.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I'm saying that we grateful for every day that we
hear and we say thanks to the Lord every single
day that we we here, and to see my kids
being able to play outside. But it is concerning because
our future is still in jeopardy because once President Trump
(36:59):
isn't that hour and the Democratic Party comes in, because
we the the football that they play political games with
I am I'm sure that they're gonna talk at us
and come after us, and they they vote. They had
(37:19):
that no King's rally, they had a table that said,
and sign up for communism. I don't think they know
what communism.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Involves, and they don't.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
They Just this week we had an assignment for the
college where we had to study communism like China, for example,
those people the media portrays because everything in communism is
government control, so they will reflect and they will portray
(37:54):
only what's good for the world's eye. But the people
in the fact is in China they get six sense.
And what is the purpose of communism that they so
vividly ramp on. Is equal opportunities for everybody, equal income,
the eradication of higher income groups, the eradication of the
(38:20):
different class social classes. And that's definitely not ever what's
happening in the communism community.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
There is equality, mind you.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Everybody's equally poor, yes, except for the said the leaders exactly.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
And and socialism, yeah, there's a lot of people who
says that they're not communists, they're socialists. Socialists is where
communism started. So communism stemmed from socialism. So there's there's
no distinct difference that you can do all this time
(39:01):
between socialism and communism. But I think the people should
do a real study before they they promote so vividly
for communism. They have no idea what they sign up for.
They they will be limited in movement, they will be
limited in income, they will be limited in religion. There's
(39:25):
so many stuff that's being sacrificed under communist culture. So no,
I will I don't. I can't think why they will
even ask them to sign up for something like that.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Well, they need to, you know, they need to talk
to people like you, which you already got a real
taste of it before you left. They need to talk
to my friend Peter Bodenka, who who barely escaped.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yugoslavia by the skin of his teeth.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Mind you're yeah, Czechoslovakia into Yugoslavia and he barely got out.
So you know, they need to talk to people like him.
And then, of course, who wants to live under Sharia
law where you have to convert to Islam. No, anyway,
let's take our final break and wrap things up in
(40:12):
just under two minutes. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we
are back and just wrapping things up here. And now
I just want to backtrack a little bit when I
was talking about the mass migration of illegals coming in,
not just from the southern border, that came in from
Canada too, But yeah, our our whole nation got flooded.
(40:37):
And if you ask me, I'm still not satisfied there
we're not deporting fast enough. But one thing that just
came to a big concern to me during that time
too was, you know, I always I always know that
whichever direction South Africa goes, the US often follows. I mean,
(41:00):
now we're talking, you know, inciting racial uprising and violence
started in South Africa and it's happening here. Then of course,
you know, pulling doing things like pulling down statues and
things like that all started in South Africa. One of
the big things that just came to a big concern
(41:22):
to me is I have family who have farms and
ranches that live in rural areas, and the police aren't
gonna get there fast enough to help them if if
something were to occur. So, you know, and I'm thinking,
are are are we going to have these thugs go
(41:47):
go rob my family members? And not only that, too,
but obviously you know, they're pushing for gun control so
hard and altering the laws. I mean, there was one
farm attack that I've mentioned before where the victim was
being He was stabbed in the ear with a screwdriver
(42:08):
and they had driven that screwdriver into his ear. He
managed to grab a pistol and kill his assailant, but
he's he's now behind bars for first degree premeditated murder.
So you know, either either rotten prison and or let
them hurt you, let them kill you, let them rape you.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I mean this, That's where my concern is now, is
our rural area is going to be more dangerous than
the than the big cities.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
My opinion is it's the easiest targets because you're so
far from civilization and you're so far from help, So
it's the easiest targets. It's the people that's in the
hoodle areas. But that said, I would gladly go to
a rural area because once you've lived in a rural area,
(43:08):
we grew up on the farce. You don't want anything else.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
No, I love the piece of quiet. I agree with
you there.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
You know, my wife prefers to hear horns honking and
tire squealing things like that.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I like hearing crickets.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yes, nature, I am a nature fanatic, so yeah, it
coms my soul and I can see God's creation, so
it's just absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yes, No, John, I'm sorry to keep you so quiet.
I'm kind of curious.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
I'm wonder before the breaking said something about concern that
you may be shipped back out to South Africa if
somebody else comes into power. So my question to you
on that matter is were you brought here for resettlement
purposes or were you brought here as an assaile.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
No, for resettlement purposes, so we came over as refugees.
Everybody tries to comfort us that no refugee, unless he
breaks the law, has ever been sent back. But I
I'm still cautious because of the amount of backlash and
(44:33):
hatred towards us that came across. I'm still cautious that
even though it's never happened, it's never to say that
we're not going to be the first that it's going
to happen to.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
So yeah, I believe he settlement. You gotta be here
for five years before you can apply for citizenship where asylum.
It's only one. That's why I had asked. I was
kind of hoping you to set asilum you do have.
I'm wondering if you can change that status because you
came here out of fear of being persecuted for your race,
(45:07):
and that is a qualification for asylum. So it bears
to research the laws a little bit.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Cef what Uncle Colonel Wyatt and Professor Gee spoke about there,
it's two different, completely different things. You you had to
flee by your own expense, come to America and then
(45:35):
apply for asylum. And because we came over with the
assistance of the United States as refugees, that that's not
an option for us.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Oh I see, yeah, and not only that too, But
you're not coming over here, you know, looking for a freebie.
I know that you had like your first months of
rent and bill Bill's utilities paid and things like that.
But obviously you know you're you're You've got that old
(46:08):
school pride to where you know you you want to
make things work for yourself, you know, I mean, and
and that that's another thing too. When you see somebody,
I just got to ask you, does that frustrate you
when you see somebody coming over from like the Mexican border,
you know who, even though even if they signed the
(46:30):
signed the guest book on the way in legally, but
they they just want to come over here. They don't
want to work, and and and the government saying, okay,
that's fine, we'll we'll give you food stamps, we'll give
you snap benefits, we'll pay we'll have the taxpayers pay
for your rent and all that. Now, Yeah, you, as
an immigrant yourself, how how frustrating your situations like that
(46:52):
to you?
Speaker 3 (46:53):
For me, it's quite frustrating because it gives the whole
immigration and immigrant and refugee thing a bad rap. We
were all pushing to get employed as quickly as possible,
to start playing taxes as quickly as possible, and to
contribute out of thanks and gratefulness for the opportunity that
(47:18):
we got. One of the first things we got with
that when we came here is to go buy an
American flag and put it up in front of our house.
Because we were so grateful and so proud to be here.
And then I see people coming in and they burn
(47:39):
the American flag. That's really upsetting for me to see
someone burned the American flag. If you do not want
to be here, don't be here. Leave then, but don't
kick the hand that feeds you.
Speaker 5 (47:56):
It's evident to us that we have people that come
to this country because they want to sway our politics
in favor of their own nation at home. We see
that a lot right now with Palestine, who's trying to
sway us against Israel. It's all politically motivated. Unfortunately, we
have to cope with that, but we appreciate it. Once
folks like yourself rightfully immigrate here and want to assimilate,
(48:17):
because that's what immigration is supposed to be about here
in the United States.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Yes, and you need to be grateful to your host country.
And every single day. I don't think there is a
day that's sports since we came here six months ago
that we don't pray and say thank you to God
and thank you for this opportunity. Thank you for the
(48:41):
opportunity to see my kids play safely and not be
concerned that they will be right in front of us
to intimidate us.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
So, yeah, we'll get too complacent. Don't get too comfortable,
because we have our own crime issues here in the
United States. Don't keep an eye on your children please do.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, no, I do, I do, But it's not that
they have to be under twenty four seven lockdown like
they used to be. Right.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
No, No, you're feel imprisoned in your own home.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
It's what you're saying. Well, no, house actually look like
a present because you've got at the porch area, it's
all fenced in web gates that's locked, then a gate
at the kitchen door, then a gate to sep right,
the sleeping rooms, the bedrooms from the rest of the house.
(49:35):
You've got burglar bars from the inside of the windows
and burglar bars from the outside of the windows, just
in a an attempt to hear them when they come
in to be prepared somewhat.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
So yeah, yes, oh no, you're going to find that
everywhere though, and honestly that part that has never bothered me.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Now, one quick note to.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Just you know, I'm grateful to have you guys over here,
especially I'm hoping that more africanors come over here, and
I if they don't share their agricultural secrets, I can understand.
It's like there's recipes you don't share. But if they
come over here and farm, I mean, John, I don't
(50:26):
know if you ever looked at the Kalahari desert, but
that the Kalahari desert is harsh and I would not
want to live there. These people turned a hell into
an oasis.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
And now that's.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Anyway. We are out of time.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Will I want to thank you very much for joining us,
and of course you and I we we need to
speak more, we need to go out and do something.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
So yes, I hope to hear from you soon. Thank
you for having me, and thank you for having the
opportunity to hopefully try and open some eyes to what
we experienced and what the people back there are still experienced.
And that was our aim. Is also to get off
the system as quickly as possible, to give the opportunity
(51:21):
for other people to come over.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
Absolutely well. On tap for next week, we're going to
be speaking with Leslie Wolfe. She's running for office here
in Twin Falls. I forgot exactly where, but of course
she's endorsed by our very best and we'll be looking
forward speaking to her next week. Will God bless you
(51:45):
and we will be speaking again soon.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
God bless you to thank you.
Speaker 4 (51:49):
You're welcome, and ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much
for tuning in. To Patriot Confederation. God save the Republic
of the United States of amyria Aga.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
We will live back down from Bay.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
We're runna feeding Americans.
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