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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Of the inverted reality every day for common.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Sense Conservatives like here to help bring you back to
reality now, your hosts Chris Wyatt, Todd McKinley, and John Golvin.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Good evening, folks, who welcome back once again to your
weekly dose, your immunization against fake news, hyperboley propaganda, and
well the Biden regime's gone, so we'll have to focus
on Keir Starmer. I guess in the UK, but you're
daily your weekly immunization against all the nonsense. My co
host in East Tennessee, the Volunteer State, Sorry, first class
retired Todd McKinley. Todd, how's it going good, colonel? How

(00:54):
are you this weekend or this week?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
It seems like it's just yesterday we had had a show.
It's one after the other. Baby, once a week's not enough.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I don't know. Well, it does seem to come up
very quickly but we're just getting ready for Independence Day,
and not that Will Smith movie.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Just a matter of hours away, Yeah, which was running
on Marathon the last weekend for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
The two hundred and forty ninth anniversary of our nation's independence,
John Grovener in the studio in National Hampshire. John, we're there.
Next year, two hundred and fifty. President Trump will preside
over the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our independence.
The Olympics in Los Angeles, the Women's Rugby World Cup
in America, the FIFA World Cup in America. Boy, I

(01:36):
tell you it's win, win, win, all the time for
the Trumpster. John.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
So yeah, yeah, happy Independence everybody. Today Actually is a
notable day. Today is July second, and Chris, I'm sure
you know. Today was the day that our framers decided
to adopt the Lee Resolution, in which case to apply
for independence from Britain was July second. In fact, John
Adams thought that was going to be our national holiday.
It was July second in protest to go to July fourth. Events, uh,

(02:03):
in the future events of that time. So yeah, what
was assigned August I think our independent our declaration of
independence was signed August second, before being a shipped No,
so a little bit of brief history. I Chris looked
like he's question what I'm saying here, though, But.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I was just trying to figure where you're going with this.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Oh, I just wanted to announce this. I mean, it
is Independence Day weekend coming up.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Someone you're talking about me? Are you talking about resolution
by Lighthorse Harry Lee?

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Uh yeah, Harry Lee.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yep, that's the guy light Horse Harry Le, revolutionary war
hero among many, many many.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah. Yeah, we had awesome forefathers. Man, these guys had
and these these guys had backbone. You know, they really
stood up for something. A lot of people today could
learn from these guys real quick. I'd like to announce
New Hampshire. Uh speaking of independence. Uh you remember back
a while ago, I was talking about getting rid of
the state automotive automotive inspections. Automobile inspections they were mandatory,

(03:02):
and the Senate slipped that into a budget bill as
a writer and it hit passed and got signed last
Friday by Kelly ya ya. I'm sure, but he New
Hampshire knows that by now. But I just want to
make the announcement case some people may have missed it.
I doubt they have though, because it's pretty awesome. It
made a lot of news, and you know, I'm excited
about it because I think that type of regulation is

(03:23):
just ridiculous. You know, we're adults. We know what our
card needs attention, and we give it the attention it needs.
We don't need a state interfer in our lives in
that regard and costs us money and get people fleece
to garages. Not that all of them do that.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well. Any law that limits the scope of government when
it's not acting the common interest of the man and
lady of the country, I'm all for it. Restricting government, speaking,
restricting government. Boy, the courts are out of control again.
A massive Supreme Court decision six three decision for President
Trump last week on Friday, in which the Court said
that these circuit judges could not universally apply injunctions. And

(04:00):
that makes sense because they have geographic responsibility and they're
implying broad based injunctions which affect the entire planet. They
have no such judicial authority. It was judicial overreached from
the bench. John And now we see today another idiot
judge on the circuit Federal Circuit has put an injunction
against Trump trying to strip the five hundred thousand Haitians

(04:20):
of a temporary protected status. I mean, you know, at
this point Trump has already won, it's been a signed
the Supreme Court. So I say, just go ahead, he's
not violating your laws. What do you think, John, we
just ignore that judge? Maybe there rested.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
I don't think the judges have this authority? Do they
think they have? Didn't Kotis just make a statement regarding
this matter saying you really have any authority to a
judy Kate over the president of United States? That's authority.
Resign right there at Kotis they have that authority.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
And this was decided by precedent at the Supreme Court
with the decision on Friday, and we still have these
chuckleheads running around trying to pretend that they control the world.
I think it's time to simply put these judges in
handcuffs for violating their You know, it's violating the law.
The law has been made very clear. But Supreme Court
and they're gonna try and dance around it. What do
you think? Todd?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, I think that that was in a sharp message.
For sure, you know it's you tell us a couple
in the old Hoo's cow. I think you're gonna have
a couple of people that are going to second guests,
second guessing the power of the executive, which you know
has has brought authority. Uh, you know, I I understand
you know, having the courts if you will, with the
Supreme Court being a coequal branch of government. That's not

(05:23):
some local or some you know, federal circuit court judge.
You don't have the same authority as the Supreme Court
or the president. So let's stop pretending that you do.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
So Chris Chrisier is a judge of elections, maybe he
should started judicating.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, he's got judge in the name.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I've been a summary court martial judge before, so that's
a little bit different. That's actual legal. But you know, look,
if Todd's going to resort to thirties gangster terminology with
the Who's cow? I mean, is that a is that
a Roscoe in your pocket there?

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Todd?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, that's an old gangster him for a side arm
a Roscoe. Hey listen, you know you speaking of who's
Gal Sean P. Diddy Coombs? Boy, he escaped life imprisonment.
There dude was convicted of facilitating prostitution, but he was
acquitted on the racketeering and the sex trafficking, and which
could have put him in prison for life. He is

(06:19):
still fakes up to twenty years. Did judge denied him bail?
Fifty five year old p Diddy Combs. I think he'll
get a cursory sentence, to be honest, and maybe it's
just I don't know about suspended sentence, but a curse
he sends like two or three years and get out
probably in eighty fifteen months and good behavior. I'm guessing
this guy's incredibly connected and wealthy, and I'm surprised any
conviction came down. It must have just been overwhelming evidence

(06:41):
to convict him. What do you think, John, You sound
like going away in there? Oh?

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah, no, absolutely. I was looking at that earlier today
and I just can't believe the bullet that man dodged.
I thought I thought he was the next stepsteam. I
didn't think anybo he was gonna knock him off necessarily.
But I thought he had the book and everything, and
they were all this stuff was gonna unfold and unravel,
and it was going to come out it turns out,
you know, you get some slap on the risk kind
of nonsense. Well he was because he transported a prostitute

(07:05):
or something. So now he was involved in prostitution and
that's what they got him on.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, that's what they got him on. So it's it's
interesting because I mean, well that's that's an offense and
it can carry a long jail. Sense it typically isn't
one that carries a long deal. I mean, if that
were the case, the pimps would all be off the street. Essentially,
they got him for pimping.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
I mean, yeah, it may be a ten year sentence maximum.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, but I mean I he's gonna get he's gonna
get time served because he's been in prison that yeah.
Plus plus he's gonna get, you know, a cursory sentence
I think in probably a big fine which won't even
hurt him. But you know, it's interesting because outside the courtroom,
the typical crowd was dancing around like a bunch of
like the oja nonsense. You know, uh, people turn everything

(07:48):
in the race. There's nothing to do with race, and
had to do with the guys, you know, his behavior
and he got away with it for years I mean,
you know, there's no way out dancing the streets, you know,
complaining about race when Epstein, you know, went to jail.
It's it's it's it's only when when when one segment
of society this happens to it's always a race thing.
It's not a race thing. People should be held accountable
for their abomina or they're abhorrent, abomba their abhorrent behavior.

(08:10):
I mean, it's as simple as that. Look, I don't
have a dog in the fight against P Diddy. I
listened to some of his music. If someone it cease it.
But the guy definitely we knew about this for years.
You know, he's not the only one. That's the other.
The other dude like to like to did a little
girls there who's been in prison now for a while.
It's his name, His name is Snonus with that what's
his name? R Kelly, R Kelly Kelly in it. Yeah,
I mean, you know it's uh. He was finally held

(08:31):
accountable after years and years and years everybody knew he's
doing this. He'd been charged with it, it dismissed, dismissed,
the smith and finally went you know, these people who
are wealthy, regardless of skin color, act with impunity as
if they're above the law. And I suppose it's good
to see the law holding him at least accountable in
some degree time.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
No, absolutely correct. Do you think about this? In Hollywood?
You have these these actors, you know, the celebrities that
know exactly who's doing well behind the scenes, And you
think about these words shows that they allude to some
of these the behavior of people. You know, people have
made jokes about PDDA for decades. You know, you go
back to any number of producer, producers and directors and stuff.

(09:10):
People knew this stuff was going on. They made these
little jokes about it, but they knew what was going on.
But they loved their money, they loved their family, loved
their careers, so they didn't want to rock the boat
about what they knew. Who they knew about was doing
what behind the scenes. And I think a lot of
people are complicit in all of this and should go
down just the same. But p did, like you said,
he'll get like a cursory judgment. He'll do fifteen months,

(09:31):
eighteen months, whatever, It'll be a short sentence. He'll be
out his money, He'll be able to protect him. You know,
he's not going to be out in the entertainment world
for sure, but his money will allow.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I mean, don't don't count that out. I mean, you
know it's Americans. Americans love comebacks. Yeah, that's love comingack.
So you and he's very talented. I have to give back.
But listen, Todd, I did hear that when the verdict
was announced that it wasn't going to be the sex trafficking.
He wasn't gonna go jail for rest of his life.
I heard this afternoon, Johnson and Johnson stocks sword and
sales up. Johnson Johnson, no no more tears, Baby shampoo

(10:04):
and baby oil were soaring. I heard all the shells
were empty in New York City. So, I mean, I
don't know what's going on.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Somebody earlier said that, did he all the relevant people?
Apparently now we think maybe it was somebody else paid
off all the relevant people.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Well, I don't know, but I tell you what. Apparently
there's no baby oil on the shelves of the bodegas
in New York City tonight. There's gonna be a freak
off celebrating p diddies some way, right, But.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
All these people have known about this for decades and
decades and done nothing, you know, But now all of
a sudden they want to be seen as being brave
and standing up to it.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
It's you were too afraid to be honest and you
allowed so many people to become victims because you were.
You were cowards in Hollywood a hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
That's exactly the problem there. But hey, p did he
I guess uh, if you care about the guy, you
must feel good for him tonight because at least he's
not going away for the rest of his natural life.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
That guy's got guts. I'll tell you what. He was
trying to play fancy with Mike some one time. You
see that video, Mike like a lot time to knock
him out.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
No, I didn't see that. What are you talking about, don.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, Dyson wasn't putting up with that nun sense. He
was lett him have it that.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
That is like the weirdest voice for a man that's
been Like, by the way, I tell you, guys, I
met Mike Tyson. Yeah, at the Chicago Airport coming packt
Toe South African twenty twenty two. I was in Chicago,
O'Hare and I was I went down to get something.
I came back the direction went through the middle of
the terminal there and here he came through security as
Mike Tyson. Hey, Mike, what's up. I had my veteran

(11:34):
hat on. He's like, hey, it's old. How you doing that? Hey?
I caent over it. So we got a photo. I
got a photo together with Mike Tyson. Man, it's pretty cool.
He's nice guys.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
That's all right, Yeah, yeah, that was That was a
weird trip.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I kept running into all kinds of all kinds of
celebrities every where I went. Listen, you know, actually on
real news here Israel. We'll see what happens with Hamas.
But Israel's agreed to a sixty days. He's fire broker
by President Trump and his team. So it's just, you know,
peace is breaking out everywhere. Trump'ster got Iran and Israel
to peace. Now he's, uh, I guess next up, maybe
we'll be Ukraine. But you know, those demonic crap weasels there,

(12:08):
Vlodimirzelinsky and Vladimir Putin and the European Union just just
can't kill enough Ukrainians in Russians to satisfy their egos.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean, where's he getting his money as you get
it from European countries. We're not giving them any more money,
are we.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I don't think so, I hope not. Who knows. But
it's definitely coming from the Europeans. But it's definitely not
coming from the sale of chotchkes. I'm not buying you know,
Ukrainian nesting dolls, that's for sure, right. No, I love it. Yeah,
so no, But a sixty day seas fire, I mean,
what do you think about that? Todd? I mean, you know,
just just ten days ago, Trump is leading us into

(12:43):
World War three. He's a war mongering, and Alex Jones
and Candice Owens and all these Tucker Carlson, all these
people started dumping on Trump and oh oh oh, and
then next thing, a peace breaks out and suddenly they're
all back in the Trump camp. Oh and Archie Taylor Green.
I forgot to mention her too. It's that funny time,
ye know, all these.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
People that had that loved the coattails that the Trump
gave and love the the reseurgers of fame that some
of them needed. They didn't mind the coattails then, But
all of a sudden, whenever it comes to turn on him. Hey,
they're the first ones, are the daggers out, and we
knew that was gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
So with some of them, well, you guys, realize it
is the Mid East. So a sixty day peace treaty
may turn into a sixty second peace treaty, you never know,
and then they can just turn on Trump again. You
know how that goes.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, I think this is gonna last a good portion
of time. Whether it's sixty days or whether it's a
continuous piece after that, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
But I think it's last.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Haven't We had problems in the past where people have
made peace treaties with Israel, then opposing faction starts attacking
Israel and kicks it all off again and sending the
peace treaties off the table. And it wasn't the people,
it wasn't a mass it was I remember the last
time it was a monster was made it. But another
group I don't remember who went behind him and started
attacking Israel and just kind of do the whole thing

(13:57):
out of the water.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Okay, Yeah, I think this has got a good chance
of lasting for some time.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
We'll see. I mean, but the balls in Comas's court,
I mean they're going to have to come to the table,
and I don't think they I don't think they want peace.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
I think the biggest thing in this is we just standed.
I ran their hat, and they were funding all these
people so much, and now they're like, that's going on.
We got no nuclear power left. We got to put
the money towards nuclear power. So maybe we just defunded
all these terrorist organizations over there in the Mid East.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, guys, I don't think they don't care. That's stone age,
that's they don't care. It's these people that leave these
countries don't care about the people that live in them.
I don't care about their own citizens, their own people.
They just use people. But that's that's the history of humanity.
I mean, it's always these idiots that use religion or
race or ethnicity to rally people to the standard and
then go slaughter people in the name of whatever, you know.

(14:49):
I mean, so many human communities have been completely wiped
out over the past thousand years in Europe and the
Middle East alone. People who know, the Babylonians don't exist anymore, right,
the Persian Empire doesn't need anymore, and we go to
places where entire communities, like in the Greek Islands. You know,
you've got the million dialogue, the millions. There are no millions.
It's now part of Turkey. But the millions were wiped
out by Athens. They slaughtered them all and the ones

(15:10):
who weren't slaughtered were sold to slaves into Anatolia, you know,
which is modern Turkey. So an entire community people completely gone,
and this has happened for millennia. It's pretty scary.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
You know.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
There are people who've always used political power for their
own self aggrandizement, and that's what it's all about. It's
really satisfaid. But I don't think Amas wants peace. I
don't think it's going to happen. Not gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
So no, they want they want Palestine, but they want
all of it. They want Israel out. They don't care
if they eradicate them in their lives and what they do.
They just want them model the region and they want
the land.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
There's one problem with that. There's no such place as Palestine,
that's right, What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (15:49):
It's been called Palestine even when the Ottoman Empire was
had control of it, it was still Palestine wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
The Romans called the land of the Jews Judea and
Samara and all these other places after the Philistines named
it after them. That's where the term comes from. That
the OG's original gangsters have. You know, it's like the
west is not the West Bank, it's Judea, right, So yeah, no,
I'm not buying that that was the Palestine mandate. You know,

(16:18):
it's not anyways. But the real problem with this is
that is that is that Israel is a multi party, multiracial,
multi faith democracy, the only genuine democracy or rotely closer
gen democracy in the region. And it doesn't matter who
you are. You can live in peace in Israel as
a citizen, as an Arab, as a Jeruz, as a Christian,
as a Muslim, serving the IDF, serving the courts, serve
everywhere you need to, you know, own property, you can vote.

(16:41):
But that's not the story that they want to tell people.
These people that are the Palestinians are people who attacked
the Jews in nineteen forty eight, lost, got their hat
handed to them, fled to trans Jordan, which is Judea,
which is on the west bank of the of the
Jordan River, and Laiden also fled into what became knows
of Gaza Strip and that's where they went. They multiplied

(17:03):
like rabbits. They are only a handful of them back then,
and many so called Palsnes, which would be Arabs from
that region, simply stayed in Israel and lived there because
it didn't tact their neighbors, and they lived in peace
with their neighbors ever since. That's pretty simple, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
And then proving that they can actually live in harmony
with one another and get along as neighbors, you know,
as countrymen for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Right these these are it's like it reminds me of
Western Sahara when Western Sahara, which was a Spanish colony,
was turned over to Morocco. They didn't like it. So
the solid Heirias they're called, fought a conflict against Moroccan
authority and they were defeated and they fled in Algeria.
There are only a few tens of thousands. Now there
are hundreds of thousands of them because all they've done

(17:45):
is sit in Algeria, being a thorn in Algeria side
for fifty years, reproducing in informal settlements, and now there
are a whole bunch of people. And there's a handful
of people back then. So yep. Anyway, hey, so let's
let's shift the topic back to these United States. I
was like saying that these United States. So the big
beautiful bill got through the Senate on a fifty one
to fifty vote. That's a razor thin margin, right, three

(18:08):
three turncoat Republicans. It's in the House, and it's not
going well in the House. President Trump wanted to sign
us on the fourth July. I have a feeling it
might not happen. Todd, what are your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
I don't think it's going to I'm imagining that Trump's
going to have to eat some crow on this one,
and the course, over the course of the weekend and
the Sunday shows, He's going to have to have people
out there talking about, you know, the who's and the
whys and why I didn't get passed, and of course
the who's the blame for and of course make those
folks famous. And I imagine they're gonna see over the
course of the next week or so, or maybe the

(18:40):
next couple of weeks, people are going to challenge those
turncoat Republicans who decided to you know, stand the president
up if you will.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Well, I think that what's gonna happen here is that
the Freedom Caucus is going to come under a lot
of pressure because that's where the opposition is in the House,
the Freedom Caucus, people like Chip Roy from Texas who
are against this, and I'm just why they're against it.
And look, I don't like disability better anybody else. But
it would be amazing to actually see the Federal coment
pass a federal budget before a fiscal year and enacted
during a fiscal year, rather than endless continuing resolutions, which

(19:10):
has been much of our adult life for the past
thirty years.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Well, Johnson just just made a statement that they were
going to get a pass tonight. If they don't get
it tonight, they're definitely getting it tomorrow night. But that
don't mean anything, you know, how that goes make all
the problems you want to. But if it happens, it happens.
If it doesn't, it doesn't. But he was also talking
about other future resolutions here throughout next year, and study

(19:35):
says it doesn't end here, we'll have more resolutions. Wells
carrying out about they can do things new things around
to get more of what they wanted, what they missed
out on. But yeah, I don't know. We'll see if
it gets in there or not. I mean, they're not
required to get it passed by the fourth No.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
There's no requirement. I mean there's actually requirement at all.
I mean, all we're doing is hoping we get a
bill passed before one October, to be honest, that's when
the fish starts. But but you know, President Trump set
the fourth so I guess because he probably wanted to
do like a four July signing of this. You know,
the year before. It is a penultimate, the next to last,
or it's the last. That's the next to last. I
think it is, so it's it's the penultimate anyway, whatever
the cases got to look the word up. I'm having

(20:10):
a brain cramp there. But yeah, I think you just
want to sign it for that reason. But look, I mean, guys,
there's a lot to dislike in the bill, and there's
plenty to like. Without a spending bill, without a budget
that continues to tax cuts and the Trump industry. First, we're
going to see like a sixty eight percent personal income
tax increase that will break this country. Yeah, the economy

(20:30):
will go in the crapper will go straight into recession
as people have no money left because they've painted all
to the thuder gum, so they can waste and squander
it on things, and so that that's one problem with
this thing. So something has to be done to keep
that from happening. Then Trump's got some tax cuts on
top of it, some which I think are gimmicky, the
only last in Trump's term. Then once again they have
to be renewed, kind of like these tax cuts were.

(20:51):
But that's the sixty eighth thing. They are the previous
tax sets that's supposed to be permanent based on this.
But you know, it's there's a lot to dislike. There's
a huge extent extent of the debt limit, I think
another flight five trillion or something like that, which is insane.
But here's the thing. Unless Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid
see significant cuts or means testing, they're going to half.

(21:13):
They're going to have to extend the debt ceiling. They
have to. They have a choice. So I guess the
point is just do it all at once here so
you can get through a few years rather than doing
it every year and keep keeping the government hostage, So
I understand why they're trying to do it. I'm not
thrill with the bill, but there are plenty of things
in it to like. The no tax on overtime. I
think that's brillant. That's going to drive productivity through the roof.
I mean, just imagine if you could work in making

(21:34):
sixteen bucks an hour and you're losing half that money
in taxes, and then you know you work overtime, you're
losing no money in taxes. You're gonna want to work
a lot over time. Working all the time is going
to drive business for your employers. So and then no
taxes on tips. That's it'll be huge for lower income
people and people working in the service industry. So there's
a lot to like here.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
But costucting with restrictions. So no tax on tips came
with what was it, twelve thousand dollars. So if you
make fifty thousand dollars throughout the year, you were worth
the twelve thousand dollars you got in tips, and you
don't have to pay taxes on the twelve thousand dollars.
If you got fourteen thousand dollars and two thousand dollars
of it, you're gonna have to pay taxes. So it
kind of came fifty to fifty, you know what I mean.
We were told no text on tips turned into well

(22:13):
with a cap.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
So let's just put this perspectives. The way it used
to be is you didn't report that, and then you
voluntarily reported. Then they looked at what your wages were,
and they used to form you to figure what your
your tips were. If you didn't get those tips, you
still pay taxes. Now it's gonna go back to voluntary
unless I'm mistaken. So I suspect a lot of people
will get thirty thousand tips and report they got twelve thousand.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Right, Well, yeah, it depends, you know, waiters and stuff. Now,
especially with POS systems and things like that. They everything's
on credit card, so it all gets reported anyway, unless
you're kind enough patron to go in there and say,
I'll always pay cash for tips, you know, right, and
you should. You should treat your way better than that
I would.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
So what you're saying is you should facilitate tax fraud, John,
is what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
No, you should pay that, you should so they don't
have to wait on their money. Christ paid that.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Oh, I see, so they get the tax instead of
waiting for them.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
I would never. I would never.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
What you, as an individual do with the cash I
give you is up to you.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
It's your obligation to report it, not mine. All right, Okay, okay,
I'll accept that. But it all says you should and
they'll do air quotes report it.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
So therefore, that's that's the story of the day.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Right shouldn't. I think you're right. But tonight, as we're
speaking here, we have a new assessment from the Pentagon
saying that the US strike on those four Door and
the other two sites delayed Ronsduker program by as much
as two years. This is in direct discord with what
the International Atomic Agency said, which said just a few
months I think that the truth lies somewhere between and

(23:50):
closer to the Pentagon's assessment. John, any thoughts on it?

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Sorry, I was muting myself, trying to figure out what
the noise was behind.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Todd any thoughts on that? To give them a chance
catch up?

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Well, here's what I want to talk about, you know,
in the talking Heads pedal right today? You know, John
wants to mute people out. I don't understand, who are
you muting?

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Out today, John, myself, I have background noise. This got
down down below me here making all those noise with
his weird music whatever. He was all right, it definitely
wasn't listen at WSM men. I can tell you that.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Fifteen am not if I put three FM.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Right, that's right ws men dot live if you're listening
at home. So yeah, I don't know what he was
listening to. But how how how disappointing I mean, not
listening to ws I mean, somebody's gotta correct that guy.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Well, you just saved me the bottom of the hour
station identification. Thank you for that, John. I don't think
it was your intent, but now I don't have to
do it. It sure didn't work out well, though, didn't
It sure worked out well, So Todd back to you.
The Pentagon assessment says that they've delayed the ronsticker program
by up to two years. The Nationaltomic Energy Agency says, no,
it's more like a few months. I think it's somewhere

(24:56):
not in the middle, closer to the Pentagon assessment.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
What are your thoughts, Yeah, I would say the Pentagon's
probably closer to being correct. Whether it's a two years
one year is probably around that, and of course I
think we can continue to monitor it. If we need
to do something, you know, in the near future, by
all means, we're going to do it again, just to
show that the first time wasn't a fluke, and like, listen,
you're not going to get a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Let's be done with that. Move on.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Hopefully it'll spark Iranian regime change, which is going to
have to come from the Iranian people anyway, Well.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Wouldn't that be nice, But we don't see that coming
anytime soon. And it's official, ladies and gentlemen, if you're
tuning in tonight. The United States Agency for National Development
started nineteen sixty one by John Fitzgerald Kennedy junior, son
of a bootlegger and former ambassador and former naval officer,
and president ied State's assassinateed office in nineteen sixty three.

(25:46):
Founded in the United States ancient National Development which now
is gone. As of today, it no longer exists, ten
thousand employees no longer employed at USCID, tens of billions
of dollars, and eight programs in Iran either can or
transferred to the State Department. This is a bellweather change
in how the US will be doing aid in the future,

(26:07):
and it looks like we're shifting from aid for the
most part and trying to force the concept of trade.
A lot of people belly aching about this and all
over the world, both sides Atlantic Todd, have you followed
this story at.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
All, Well, I'm happy to see that the organization is
folding done away with. And you know, any foreign aid
program should be handled by the State Department and done
so on a very particular, you know, set of basis.
If you will, you know, like what's the need, you know,
when do we end? You know, what's the dollar cap amount?
And of course who has line on and video is

(26:38):
that the secretaries at the president who controls the money,
not some bureaucrat down the line, but controlled at the
highest levels, you know, the president or the secretary level.
That's what I think, that's where it should be held at.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Well. In fact, what a lot of people don't know
is there's been a struggle with you, I said, over
the past twenty five years. And of course I was
caught up in the middle of this, working in the
Pentagon and working in embassies, and what was going on
is that George W. Bush subjugated USCIDA, which had been
an independent agency to the Department of State, and that
shackling did not go over very well. They did not
like that. They fought tooth and nail against each other,

(27:11):
and it disrupted our foreign policy and our A programs
for a number of years. And they merged their budgets
and they were essentially merged in many respects. And now
it's just official. The USADA is gone, and their lovely building,
which is right off of Pennsylvania Avenue there is now
being transferred to the FBI. If I'm not mistaken, the
Federal investigation will moved from the Hoover Building over to
the Reagan Building. And I'm sure they like the digs.

(27:32):
It's much newer building, much nicer. But U SID is
no more John, We are no longer giving handouts from USAID,
and a lot of people not happy.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
It's not hurt my feelings, it's I also did hear
that was a Department of Justice to some investigations with
Medicaid and recovered fourteen point six billion dollars worth of
fraud here recently.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, Well, look, I've worked with U SID and I
don't have a beef with USAD. What I have a
beef with is Congress. Congress creates all these programs and
then they forced they force federal agencies to implement them.
But I definitely get the point that Todd was saying that,
you know, foreign age should be something that belongs to
the State Department, which is our agency responsible for foreign
assistance and foreign cooperation, not an independent agency. Why was

(28:16):
why did Kenny ever make an independent agency? Probably because
the State's Department run by a bunch of old white
guys from Ivy League back when he was the president,
and still run by a bunch of people from the
Ivy League. But they're not all old white guys now.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Right, Yeah, with a lot of idlogs now versus a
bunch of old white guys these days.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Right exactly. That's the difference.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
For for for that to have been created. I think
it would have taken an Act of Congress, would it not.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
I'm trying to remember if he needed if he needed
Congress to authorize it.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Congress that terrible about this because they always want to
delegate their powers to somebody else, you know, a regulatory agency,
and everything goes to go, you know, they don't get
anything done, and they turn around and abieces start coming
from these things. You just open up a big all
the problems here constantly. I'm sitting there looking at a

(29:07):
Congressional committee from hearing they had in twenty ten on
drug cartels controlling are officials in government. In twy fifteen
years ago they had this hearing. What come of it,
whatever come of it, we still got all these problems
going on here at our border. We got all these
problems going on with drug cartels infiltating our forms of

(29:29):
government and government officials. That nothing ever comes from these hearings.
They just add a collect out of them. They get
information out of them, but they never turn anything that
no fruition comes out of it.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, well that's all true. But on the USAID thing,
you know, I don't want to go this story quite
yet because it's a big deal, which a lot of
people realize. This is how we're seeing by a lot
of people around the world. But what I have to
say is that the intent was helped the world, and
part of what we were hoping to get at it
was good will and access and influence. And we don't
get good will and access the influence in all places,
we get abused and mistreated and USCID has turned some

(30:05):
people into perpetual beggars, and especially in places like Africa,
countries are perpetually begging and coming back. For instance, the
President's Emergency Program for Age Really PEPFAR, created by George W.
Bush in two thousand and three, was a five year program.
Initially intended to spend three billion dollars per year for
five years, fifteen billion dollars, spending one billion on prevention,

(30:29):
one billion on care, and one billion on abstinence. And
that's what's supposed to happen. That turned into forty three
billion dollars of expenditures over that five year period, not
fifteen billion. Because Congress loved it and poured money in
the program. We allowed the world to become dependent on
suckling on the US taxpayer's teeth. And that five year
program has lasted twenty two years. Twenty two years. Only

(30:53):
a handful of countries have actually taken advantage of that
in an effective manner, like Botswana. When Botswana began participating
in the for Our program, thirty eight percent of the
adults in the country were HIV positive. You want to
talk about pandemic, that's frightening. Thirty eight so you had
almost a one or two chance of being in bed
with someone who is infected with HIV. It's crazy. Well
that figures down to around twelve to fourteen percent of

(31:15):
bucks onan and now they have made good use. They've
also taken responsibility for the program and have picked up
nearly all the costs over those twenty tiers, whereas South
Africa continues to rely on America. Now we've canceled it.
We're the evil people because we canceled the program when
the government of South Africa has taken no responsibility for this.
And you know, for a first reaction when Trump suspended
this aid, which had nothing to do with with Pepford

(31:37):
was suspended because of South AFN's actions. When they first
did he said, oh, it doesn't matter Americans, it's only
seventeen percent of money spent on HIV, only for the
truth to come out weeks later. Number one, most of
the monitoring surveillance tracking people with HIV and the spread
of HIV and the control of HIV was done through
programs funded entirely by the US tax payer. In addition
to that, many other anti retroviral programs were people who
are afflicted with HIV and have low CD four counts

(31:59):
was fun to buy the American taxpayer, and so many
tens of thousands, if not one hundred thousand people can
longer get access to the life saving medication because we've
canceled this program because of the behavior of South Africs
present and research into treatments and care have been virtually suspended.
Almost every single program of note in South Africa or

(32:20):
universities and research centers is funded entirely by the US
and now that funding and research has stopped, and all
the monitoring has stopped, and so the truth comes out.
But these arrogant people said that, well, you know, we
don't need this Americans, they don't do much. Well, we
do a lot, and we get no gratitude for it.
So it's getting a little frustrating.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
We get we get treated like a dorm man. But
I think I suspect we do this because we think
we can influence the globe with money. Doing that there
in Ukraine prior to the war, where he said something
about you do what I want you to do, or
we're going to cut off your funding.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
And oh, but that had a lot to do with
his son's crooked deals with Borisa.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yeah, they control things and influence things to their favor.
That's the whole point. But that when you want to
hold that policy.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
And like that was that was an individual crooked criminal activity.
The idea is, the idea is trying to influence nations
and peoples to the benefit of the American country, of
our country. But there are three quotes that came out
of this. I think they were trying. So there's three
quotes here I want to cover. First is from George
Walker Bush. He said, you showed a great strength of

(33:25):
America through your work. This is the USAID employees as
a recorded message, and that is your good heart. He says,
is it in our national interest that twenty five million
people who would have died now live? I think it is,
and so do you. That's people who are a lot
because of the money that taxpayers that pay the one
hundred and forty billion dollars we've given to keep those
people alive. Meanwhile, people live homeless in Appalachia, and we've

(33:45):
got other issues in this country. Barack Obama said, gutting
USAID is a travesty, and it's a tragedy because it's
some of the most important work happening anywhere in the world. Well,
I think stopping around from having nuclear weapon is probably
the most important work that's happened in the world.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
And then a long time humanitarian, you know, stick his
nose and everything, Irish singer Bono from Home to Go There.
We spoke to millions of people and he said could
have died because the cuts. He said, they called you
crooks when you were the best of us. Yeah, you
can shove in your ca Cole Bono. There's plenty of
the best of us, not just the US the idea.
I'm sick of people like this. Anyway. Us ID is gone.

(34:23):
It's history now. Will it be resurrected in a democratic administration.
There's a chance of that unless Republicans control one of
the branches, the executive of the legislature. But I think
it come back in the future. Do you think they'll
try to bring it back?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Tout they're going to try something, whether it's USAI D
or some other nonsense pie in the sky.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
But you know what, it.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Had a usefulness. You know, we tried to use it
for something, and of course it didn't work. We should
have ended the experiment a long time ago. Whether it's
the pep far whether it's USA, I D whatever, use
the money elsewhere. If the experiment doesn't work, let's admit
that it doesn't work and move on from it. And
allowing USA run among on the global scale I think

(35:04):
undermine our nation's best interest versus having it controlled under
State Department or under the White House directly.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, no, look, I mean my only major issue with
the USAID is the arrogance of the leadership the organization,
and then this constant battle with the State Department that
was fructrating. And to be honest, beyond that, I worked
with a lot of good AID or AID officers as
their culture, really talented, patriotic Americans, but they're a handful
of them that had their head up their backside when
it came to work with the military, and I really

(35:34):
had no respect for that handful of people, and those
people made it very difficult to things. And the perfect
example of this would be Iraq in two thousand and
three Interrock in two thousand and three. The State Department
of the AID were such a pain and Paul Bremmer
was so useless that the whole thing deteriorated. We wound
up with an insurrection and a war that was unnecessary
and secretary, and violence that could have been avoided if
the plan had been followed. But all three actors, the

(35:57):
State Department, the AID and the Pentagon all had their
heads up their backside or they were naval gazing and
not paying attention to the mission to hand, and all
these people died needlessly and we lost a lot of
good will in the Middle East. Remember they tore down
the statues of Saddam and saying and cheered the Americans
tanks as they rolled through the streets, and just three
months later people were throw them all tof cocktails and

(36:17):
killing our soldiers. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Absolutely, because nobody wanted to listen like it. You know,
it was a tinderbox basically ready to go off. And
if you dissolve these agencies with that was you know,
they had bath elements in it. If you dissolve them
out right, and this is what's going to happen. And
that's exactly what happened. They didn't listen to us, and
we owned it after that.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well, we made no effort at de bathification like we
did with denoxification, and the emperorsm in Japan, the same
sort of process had to happen interact otherwise. These people
have this worldview. It's screwed up, and they wind up
positions of authority as judges and police chiefs and officers
in the military. It's absolute ridiculous. I mean, how these
how not even stupid are these people? You know, I've

(36:58):
come to realization here, Tod, I've grown a couple of
days older in life. Here is that when you're young,
you look to these politicians and you think you're actually
smart people. Because they're in office, that must mean they're smart.
Now a bunch of ambulance chasing, shyster lawyers and useless
frauds and used car salesmen, many of them. Some are
genuine and patriotic, but most of these people have no
idea what they're talking about. I just I get a

(37:19):
kick out of watching idiots go before finance committees in
Congress and then grill the nation's largest bankers. So tell
me how to make vaccine waters. How much money did
you at JP Morgan make from student loans last year?
He says nothing? How can that be? Well, Barack Obama
stole He didn't sit in my word, Barack Obama stole

(37:40):
a student loan program which was guaranteed by the federal
government but funded by private institutions for the benefit of
American students, and now it's run by the taxpayer, the
taxpayers footing the bill. She's like, what, Yeah, you idiots
voted for this, you approved it, and you're sitting there
and she was in Congress. It just shows you a
bunch of so my faith, you know, And I look

(38:02):
at these people and I see them say things they're
fully not informed, and it's just really, you know, I
look at a box of rocks, and sometimes I wonder
if I'm looking at a more intelligent, you know, sensient
species of rocks than I am human beings in Congress,
and it's just just some really dumb people speaking dumb
people in Congress. Hockey Jeffrey says that every Democrat will
vote against the bill, whatever the bill is, just because

(38:23):
the Republicans they're behind it. Todd No, absolutely. You know.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
It's funny as some of these members of Congress, whenever
they grill people in these hearings, and whenever they these
members that are being grilled or whatever, they turn it
around on the person and says, well, you realize you're
the one who voted for this right, and then they're
like what And then it's like, yeah, you also are
the one who sponsored this bill that we're talking about.
It's like, you know, it's like you're grilling me about it,

(38:48):
but you're the one who helped write it, and you
voted on it. You know, all of a sudden, they
don't know what to say at that point.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, John, do you have any hope? Do you think
that the people that are in Congress, there are in
the state legislation are actually or smart?

Speaker 4 (39:00):
I mean, I kind of don't think they're bright. I mean,
there's some of them that are really intelligent. Ran Paul.
I give a lot of credit to Thomas Massy. I'll
give a lot of credit to There's quite a few
of them that I think they got their act together.
But look, Nancy Pelosi set hers up. We had to
vote on it to know what was in it. How
stupid could you be? There doesn't get dumber than that.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
And the press went right along with it and backed her.
You know. Meanwhile, you know, Barack Obama is illegally using
lois Learning the irs to destroy the tax status of
tea party groups because there were a real threat to
his political power base. And they illegally in violence constitution
used federal agencies to shut down Tea Party groups and
stop the movement. Yep. Then we had the frauds who

(39:42):
joined on the people who claim be Tea Party, people
like Marco Rubio, Michelle Bachman, who weren't really Tea Party people,
And here we are all these years later, and then
people like, oh, this thing came from nowhere Donald Trump. No,
the mega movement was there before. There was mega movement.
It's just that, Yeah, a lot moved over to Trump.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
You got repackaged, and of course it got a remissioned
if you will. It's like, hey, we have a mission now,
this is the mandate. Let's move forward with this versus
what you were doing beforehand, which was really nothing. You
got you got co opted by by by the establishment.
You sold yourselves out and it's like, hey, you don't
have to do that. Let's rebrand ourselves in and repurpose
it under this new thing called MAGA.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah. So, so someone of the chat, one of the chats,
I think it's one of my viewers from South Africa,
said said so about talking about John, and he said,
they're saying that John has the best studio of the three.
I said, let me let you guys in a little secretary.
He's actually at the radio station. And you know the
reason that we get so little, so little pay for
doing what we do every Wednesday night. We're paid so

(40:43):
poorly is because all the money goes to that sexy
studio that John works in. You know, I'm going to
take that up with the station manager. I'm tired of
being paid so little money. Because you've got nice toys there.
You know, it's about time to start paying.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Yeah, I just get to play with them.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
We're gonna unionize or something. You know. It's you know,
all these South Africans coming over to America, they're being
disparaged by people in South Africa. They have a phenomena
South Africa where they're called carguards where you park your
car in a garage, you're parking the street, and if
you don't want to broke it into you pay the
guy who hangs out there to keep an eye on it.
They're called carguards. So it doesn't take any skill or

(41:18):
education or literacy, and so they're trying to disparage the South.
Emergie saying, oh, go to America, man, all they're going
to be is carguards, So we've been making light of that.
I actually got a song called Carguards The Colonel's Funky
Carguard Crew. But I've announced I'm forming a labor union.
As much as I hate labor unions. It's the Car
Guards of America. It goes into effect on August first,

(41:40):
and membership is one thousand dollars per month. You can
deposit directly into my checking account and we'll make sure
that you're represented. That's just like any other union. That's
all right, Yeah, carguards, that's it.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
You mean, unlike the teachers Union. You won't be flying
around the country and jet planes and promoting DEI and
all this other nonsense. You'll actually be doing something.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Yeah. Well, hey, listen, I'm speaking of doing something. Donald Trump,
op ed in the captured Wall Street Journal, wants a
reliable conservative business publication now a political mouthpiece. I don't
know for who, but the editorial board of the Wall
Street Journal says that Trump stiffs Ukraine on arms means
more death and more Russian gains. Really, what's preventing Vlimirslinsky

(42:21):
from going to the peace table? Then there'll be no
more deaths. Oh wait, vladimirs Lynsky is preventing vlaimirs Lynsky
and Ukraine from going to the table, Todd, do you
think I'm off on that one? I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
And he also apparently owns suits, and I saw him
in a couple of suits the other day in some
European meetings. So you can go to the White House
with no suit on, but you can go to these
European meetings with suits on.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
That's a little well as well. Speaking of disrespect, I'm
sure he feels a little bit disrespected. I feels like
Rodney Dajevideh. I get no respect here because he's not
getting Patriot missile defense batteries. He's not getting hell fire
missiles or eighty five hundred artillery rounds and some other ammunitions.
So shame, shame, shame. But they've been cleaning out our cupboard.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
Man.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
We're almost empty. We're almost with defenseless here in America
because meanwhile, the Chinese are on the prowl and the
Iranians are trying to launch nuclear weapons, and here we
are defenseless because we're giving all our ammunition and weapons
to Ukraine. That's not a good pitch situation, and that
was Biden. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. But I mean

(43:26):
the shipment's continued until recently. They were still because they
were already committed to So we've been cleaning our stuff out.
So these are things Trump says we're not going to
deliver now, and people are losing their mind, and I'm like, yeah,
you should lose your mind in a good way. This
is good news.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Yes, you don't exactly leave yourself vulnerable. Then ounce of
the world. Hey, guys, we're unarmed. That's kind of ridiculousness.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
We'd fire some patriots to defend ourselves, but we're all
fresh out. We use them all. In Ukraine, Well, the
Army Secretary has fired his entire cores of civilian advisors
volunteer civilian advisors that advised the Army Secretary one hundred
and fifteen members of the Civilian aids to the Secretary
of the Army Program Casset program. They have all been sacked.

(44:07):
Moving forward, the City and A program will focus on
leveraging civilian enterprise and strategic communications, advanced technology, innovation and
digital transformation to advisor the Armies. We build a force
capable of dominating the future fight, said Driscoll. It's dand
Driscoll the Army secretary. Yeah, well there you go, guys.
That's that's a big deal. That's a really big deal.
That's a voluntary thing. But it's very prestigious to be
on that Army advisory board. I don't think most people

(44:29):
even heard of that before.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Todd, Right, Yeah, there's so many advisory panels like that
that you don't know about. You know, Homeland Security, you
know any number of you know, the drug control programs,
et cetera. There's advisory panels that are on there. A
lot of them will go to civilian who've done something
to say with the administration for the president. You know,
they're political dollouts if you will. It's like, well I
can't I can't use you on a day to day basis,

(44:51):
but hey, i'll throw you on this advisory panel. But
there are some people that actually use their advisors to
actually give them some advice as they should, versus just
them being there, you know, as an honorary position.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
One hundred percent. As we swift switched from that to
another topic here, one of the January sixth people convicted
and then pardoned by the president, has been convicted of
conspiracy to murder federal employees, solicitation to commit violence, and
threatening a federal official. According to the court filings, Edward
Kelly sentenced today. He tried to claim that his pardon

(45:26):
applied to crimes he committed two years after he was
at the January sixth No defense, and Judge's like, Noah,
as two years later, Yeah, you're talking about killing people
at now your pardon wasn't for that, it was it
was time framed on January sixth, So as you hear
about this one. So he's going to get a life
sentence on one count, plus twenty years and ten years

(45:47):
and two other accounts all running concurrently, so life in prison.
He's also ordered to pay a three hundred dollars special assessment.
I have no idea what that is.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, but people like that to try to say, you know,
it's all part of it, you know, just to be
able to slide out of something.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
You know, you're you're a criminal, You're an opportunitist, you know,
and and the fact that you were pardoned for January sixth,
you know, just uh it underminds the people who were
there just innocently that were, you know, caught up in
the melee if you will, Uh, who don't. We're doing
nothing wrong. You undermind that because you were there to
do something horrible and then to commit a crime. So yeah,
underminds that.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Well, this guy is from Knoxville. By the way, I'll
watch out, stay stay down.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Not all that far from Todd, stay down that way.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Now it's Kelly, not McKinley. So you know it's uh,
by the way, Todd. What's it like having an entire
mountain renamed after you? Isn't that pretty cool? That's right,
Mountain Nially's back to Mount McKinley.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Now, maybe maybe we should have another two or three
more mountains. I think I don't know, not one two.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
I always thought Denially was a GMC truck, but that's
just me right. Well, the Justice Department is explosed orying
criminal charges against election officials, and the left is losing
their mind. So, you know, election officials can commit craud, fraud,
and crime all they want. We're not supposed to look
at it. But the moment that the Justice Department of
a Trump starts looking at potential criminal actions by elected

(47:15):
officials and officials involved elections. Suddenly it's it's a dangerous
a threat to democracy. Ah wow, I don't think so.
I think the federal voting law should be adhered to.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Right, Yeah, if everything's on the up and up, why
are you worried about it at this point?

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Right?

Speaker 3 (47:30):
You should have anything to worry about it, you know,
why are you care if somebody's looking into your job
as a public official, elected or appointed or otherwise. You know,
you're supposed to have people that provide oversight, whether it's
an internal you know, inspector general if you will, and
i'msbud Mudsman's program, or legislative body. You know, you're you're
subject to having your your job, you know, scrutinized. So

(47:51):
why are you Why are they so worried about.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
It all of a sudden. It's a good question. I
I don't know where they get their worldview. It's pretty crazy,
pretty crazy. But before we get to the top of
the hour, let's go back to this story about this
circuit judge, that is, US District Judge Randolph Moss found
that the Trump administration had overstepped its authority and bypassed
immigration law in stripping over half a million Haitians of

(48:16):
their temporary protected status. His argument was that they acted
outside the wall because they were protected until like early
twenty twenty six, and they don't have the authority to
strip it. But I think on Friday, John, we just
had a Supreme Court say you can't do this. You
can't step in like this because unless those five hundred
thousand people are living in the federal district where he's

(48:36):
a judge, they're not a part of the case. This
wasn't class section lawsuit.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
People just don't know where their lane is anymore. Chris.
They they're all you know, it's like bowling. You know,
you're standing agatting, ready to lungjet bowl down the lane
and here comes a ball from the other side. Take
your sins out. Yet they don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Well, I've never had that happen, but I've seen it
in movies, and it's hilarious when it all comes from,
especially like if you're about to release the ball and
it comes out you you start to come out of
your hand, just the ball comes across Like what anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
Taking out the lanes.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
So I was watching this TV show the other night
and it reminded me of cagling in Germany, which is
similar to bowling, where the pins are on strings and
they come in different configurations. You have very small ball
that fits in your hand, a couple different sizes. I
was watching that. Do we have that in America? Because
this is a program based on events supposedly in California
and the family was at at a bowling alley on
these little bowling balls. Yeah, giggling here. I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Yeah, we have a little ten tinpin bowling.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Ask what ten pin bowlling must be. Yeah, right, I
didn't know that. I've never seen that before.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
His candlestick or whatever they call you.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Can, Yeah, same thing.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
It's a little, a little tiny and it just you
knock them down and the string picks them up, you
set them right back down.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
It's kind of wild, it is. It's very you know.
I mean, I remember when I was in Germany the
first time. You're in nineteen eighty's a friend her parents
had some money. He was, you know, in the construction company,
and and went over the house one Friday with some
friends and they had a kiggling alley in their house,
so we were bowling in their house. That was pretty cool.

(50:08):
That's pretty sweet.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Yeah, like it's slightly bigger than you know, the what
a shuffle board? Slightly or the what's the when you
when you get at the pizza shop when you try
to get in the hole whatever? Slightly a bit bigger
than that, That's what it is.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Yeah, pizza shop, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (50:24):
You know you go to like the Yeah, you know,
play those those those games where you had the different rings,
if you will, you try to get the ball in
it the whole different I don't remember what ski ball whatever?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Football? Thank you.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, it's slightly larger than that, you know, a little longer,
a little wider.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
If you will. Yeah, this skate ball.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Yeah, you find them in arcades, Chris or the lanes
with the with the board second.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yeah, yeah, I know it's ski ball? Is where does
where does Todd live? In nineteen seventy six? Come on,
I haven't seen ski ball in years? Man, I love you.
Come on spitting out all those tickets, man, you know, yeah,
rolling that ball up and hitting that fifty or that
eighty right in the center. I was really good at that.
Come on. Yeah, And I was good where you could like,
you know, you know, roll it up and bounce it

(51:07):
off the sideboard and then it goes straight up to
the middle or the straight shot. I was pretty good
at that ski ball, going to places like Coney Island,
places like that. Affairs love that skiball. But I mean,
come on, Tod, that's like nineteen seventy six. Man, Come on,
don't give away your age.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
I think he's born in like nineteen seventies, so.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I know, I just kidding. Oh my goodness. Hey, border
agency have caught only six thousand criminal alienaders in June.
A lot of people excited about that. Also, the border
agencies failed to turn any criminal aliens over for staying
in America. They turned them all back, which is their job.

(51:45):
I used to see them doing their job instead of
loading them on planes illegally without real id and flying
around America on a contractive flight at your expense, John's expense,
my expense, in the audience's expense. For once, we've got
people doing their job. It's very exciting.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
If you ask me, hey, if he's Trump Trump tax
cuts work up, maybe it won't be a Mike expense anymore.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah, but they're still funding these guys.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
So either way, you're paying taxes. Either the director in direct.
You're paying them. Every time you buy an item at
the store, there's a tax of that corporation, and they're
going to pass out along on the cost of that item.
You're paying that tax, so it's at your expense.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
On the day that Trump took office on January twentieth,
he is an executive word, effectively blocking access for those
crossing for the illegal claim of asylum. Since then, the
highest monthly total of illegal crossings has been nine thousand.
But on one day in late June, according to the
Department Home and Security, agents made only one hundred and
thirty seven arrested criminal alienators. That is the single lowest

(52:43):
one day total in a quarter century. That's more like it.
And by the way, I think a lot of people
know this, over one million criminal alienators have voluntarily repatriated
themselves for fear of being kicked out forever. Yeah, and
that's a good path. Get out of country, come back legally,
get in line like everybody else.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Well, those are the the the honest criminals right there. Right,
It's like, okay, I did, I realized I broke the law.
Let me go back before I get caught.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
It's you, right, you right wingers coming in this country
is not a crime. It's everyone's entitled to go wherever
they want, whenever they want. John, I think the Todds,
this evil right.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Wing that is within the U Human Declaration, the UN's
Declaration of Human Rights to travel freely from country to
country and all that nonsense, and that's what they based
their nonsense on. But that's not within our laws.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
No, we're a sovereign nation. We decide exactly. Yeah, that's
the bottom line here. I think that somewhere. You know,
it's funny because I remember probably ten fifteen years ago,
well less than that too, people were talking about the
erosion of sovereignty and how states have lost their sovereignty.
And I said, well, that's true, and I said the time,
I said a lot of it as to a social
media because information can cross borders without being stopped and

(53:54):
being addicted, and people find out about things like the
Air of Spring instantaneous, sutaneously. People find out about the
Malaysian Airways Flight three just disappearing over you know, wherever
the Indian Ocean where we disappeared. People find out about
things they might not have known about before because it
doesn't come out until on newspaper days or weeks later,
and and that has had an impact of mobilizing people
at the grassroots level, whether they intend it or not.

(54:15):
I mean, you know, you don't even have hipople say hey,
come down for a protests. All you got to say is, hey,
this is happening, and thousands of people show up just because
they're following it. That is a power that never existed
before in that fashion. It was hard. I mean, you know,
Paul Revere had to ride from village to village. You know,
the Britisher Company, British Company. How antiquated is that? Now
you just go on your on your your your WhatsApp
or on your telegram go, or you're on your exeicount

(54:36):
go the British re Comingy, the British are coming next
to you know, a whole bunch of people outside with
their muscles. I mean they're automatic, their their cruiser weapons.
I mean, I mean they're there, they're they're they're what
do I call them the assault rifles? Yeah? Something, assault rifles,
that's right? Are that that didn't stand for armor light?
It stood for assault rifle.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Oh my goodness. Yeah. But anyway, folks, in the next hour,
we're going to talk about, Uh, they can under them
the sticky wicket that armor finds himself in the United
Kingdom not looking too good for a socialist and chief
over there in the UK who's been bending over backwards
to appease Donald Trump, speaking of piecing Donald Trump guys.
The next hour we got to talk about the day
that Canada blinked. The Canadians were playing chicken with Trump,

(55:15):
and they blink first. They have back down, Todd, they
back down. They they on this this digital tax. They've
backed off of it after saying that they're going to
keep it into perpetuity. And Trump said, fine, we're done.
Walked away. It just walked away. I love Trump. He confounds,
and they don't what to do. They expect, Okay, we're

(55:36):
here to have a conversation about trade. Trump's like, you're
not gonna drop the tax. We gotta to talk about later.
Let's go man.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Well, yeah, he knew they were going to come back
to the table, so he had all the power in
that move.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
By walking away.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Sometimes that's them like you don't care means a lot.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, he gets built up on.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Their head and he's over here going I don't care.
I'm not the one to lose in here, so he
had all.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
The cards that deal. Did you see that eighty one
point five billion dollars in tariff revenue? Right, we'll talk
about that next hour, folks. Stick around. Second hour coming
up on the Commisness.

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My favorite commercial once again there it is always a
lead in to the second hour. I love it. I
love it. I love it. Guys. That's pretty crazy stuff.
I love that that that evert for some reason, hey,
Paramount which owns CBS has to pay Trump sixteen million
dollars for altering the Kamala Harris interview just before the election.

(57:09):
What do you do that, Todd Good?

Speaker 3 (57:10):
I love it, you know because really you think about it,
that's sixteen million dollars plus and free advertising that they
did for making it look good.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I mean, it wasn't a.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
True news interview because you doctored it, so therefore it
made it a political ad, not a true news interview
period exactly.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
And it also it was election interference. They should have
been prosecuted for election interference. Actually, yeah, so they Trump
claimed he had mental anguish. I think we all were cheated.
That's I don't know what mone of my mental language,
but I think we've all been defrauded by CBS and
they shouldn't paid a much higher price than that. So, John,
any thoughts on that one? I mean a paramount sixteen
million bucks. You know they keeps saying Trump loses all

(57:46):
his cases when it comes election. Well, there's one he won.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Well, I guess Trump can afford to take his wife
out for dinner.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
He doesn't get the money. Money's going to Trump Library.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Oh, he can still afford to take his wife out for dinner.
The man's loaded. But yeah, oh no, I think I
think they got their just deserves on it. Somebody over
here is so. I didn't know this was still going on,
but some movie here was asking could someone explain why
everyone in the US, including President Trump, was so obsessed
with egg prices a measure crisis?

Speaker 2 (58:12):
No, No, I think that's trolling. No, I haven't heard
the comments about eight prices since Left has played this game.
The first month of the Trump administration, the reason egg
prices soared is because the Biden regime murdered twenty thousand hens.
They gave a bogus claim that there was bird flow
and they slaughtered twenty million egg layers, and so there
was a short of eggs. That's why the price went up.
There was also sabotage the Trump administration. There was no

(58:34):
bird flu crisis, just a bunch of scam in my view.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
Anyway, Yeah, it was like COVID for birds.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Is that is that? Is that like metalworking for dummies.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Anyway, as I was saying before we went on the break,
UK's Prime Minister Kiras Starmer is in a little bit
of trouble here and also his Chancellor of the Exchequer
might be losing your job. Rachel reeves crying in Parlay,
tearing up. These people are picking on her. It's so
hilarious to watch this man up there. Lady, man up.
You know it's if you want to you want to
be the one to burn with the big dogs. You

(59:10):
got a man up sitting there crying in Parliament because
people are attacking her pathetic policies.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Rights, prime minister's questions. You know, deal with it.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Grow up exactly. Man, watch PBS get a thick skin.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Ye going to get a sick skin there, but she'll
get a thick skin in time to keep going heady.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Yeah, I love to see the house that will that
will keep the back benches. They'll chime in on something
and you know, we'll chastise the speaker if you will,
or the Prime Minister and then we'll zing them back,
but then we'll tell them.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
To keep it in order. I love it.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
They have such a good system.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Match the decorum of this aucust body.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I know it's.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
For someone like you from northumber Lund, but you know
they slide on something you will order in the house.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
My question is my question. It has been what is
an Umberland? If there's a Northumberland, there's always these Umberlands.
Well there's New Cumberland's always wonder what an Umberland was.
I'm sure it's some Anglosaxon or Nordic origin, some sort
of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Yeah, it's like all the place is called Thorpe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Are all of Scandinavian descent? Any place of Thorp like
in Ohio, that's not, but it just takes the name
from England. We had Oakthorpe, Oakthorp thorpe is an old
Norse word. So, guys, there is a skeleton they found
in Egypt of a man buried and he was in
a sealed vessel, and he was thought to have been
a potter who led a hard life. And this is

(01:00:36):
this matters is because they have mapped his entire genome. Wow,
a man whose bones were shaped by a lifetime of
hard labor more than four thousand, five hundred years ago.
It has become the first ancient Egyptian of his entire
genetic code red and analyzed by scientists. Skeleton, the man
who lived at the daught of the Age of Pyramids,
was recovered in nineteen oh two from a sealed pottery
vessel in a rock cut tomb in Nawatrut one hundred

(01:00:59):
and sixty five South Kiron has been held in museum
ever since. His DNA was remarkably well preserved, given its
age and the hot climate which rapidly degrades biological material.
Scientists suspect the unusual nature of the barrel may have
helped the DNA survive for four thousand, five hundred years. Wow.
That's crazy, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Yeah, it's it's interesting to see, you know, where you
come from as a species.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
That's mild. Yeah, wow, four thousand, five hundred years that's
something else. It's I mean, I'm impressed that they can,
you know, take that DNA, but I mean, we've seen
DNA come from older stuff. It's interesting that the thing
I want to see is a Jurassic Park when it like,
you know, it takes some DNA from amber, from like
some ancient creature.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
And how did you get all the different species?

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
You know, like how did you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
And all and all the dinosaurs that appeared on these
Jurassic Park movies didn't all weren't on Earth at the
same time with one another too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
That's another thing. Well, I mean so wide, why be
historically accurate, That's.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
The whole thing. It was Jurassic Parks. They were recreating, regenerating.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
These I yeah, no, I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
But it's like these some dinosaurs that didn't even appear
on Earth for there were millions of years apart from
one another.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
You know, it's kind of one would be extinct while
the other one's not even in existent yet.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Yeah right, yeah, kind of wild.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
But that that eggs thing he was seriously asking because
of something doing the break they were talking about a
waffle house and things being forty percent more expensive. But
I guess as an explanation, because he might not be
from this country, is that we had the egg shortage
here in the last administration, and so it did become
a measure because the cost of eggs become so high
and so rapidly that it did become a measure how

(01:02:31):
well we were doing as far as our purchase power
and stuff goes. And if they went up forty percent more,
I'm not I'm not as aware. I'm not aware as
to why.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Well they want more than two ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
He's saying that right now about a waffle house and
egg price is still forty percent more expense, Okay, more
more expensive than last.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Yeah, But there are certain staples of our diet that
we keep track of that we measure our economic you know, strength,
and that's one of those things. Milk is another thing,
you know, that's so that's one of those issues. If
you're a corn is another thing. Orange juice and so.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
My grandmother that come up during the Great Depression used
always saying, what does that have to do with the
prices of potatoes in Germany? I'm like, what does the
pricetaals Germany have to do with anything? Grandma with that
old say.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
It depends on how much is that caught tough salat
you want? In a global market, it does go. It's
all connected, that's right. So I love the way Donald
Trump is so helpful with people. I don't know if
you guys caught it. This week he traveled to the
alligator Alcatraz in Florida, and he's talking about, you know,

(01:03:39):
the possibility that aliens would escape from that facility. He said,
Now we're going to help them out. You know, they
gotta be careful. Don't run in a straight line because
they'll get it get you just kind of you know,
weave back and forth. You'll increase your chances by one
percent to survive.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Survival one percent. You can negotiate with one percent, right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
I gotta tell you alligators are extremely fast. They are slow,
but in a short distance they can really move. They
get on the bank of the shore of the water man,
they come on that thing like you wouldn't believe.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Well, that's that's the way. They especially fast. I mean,
they're very fast in the water. But with their deceptively fast
is that is that when they come out of the
water right along the bank.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Whoa they move They move a speed, Yeah, yeah, spring loaded,
reading body language.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
When they raise their tail, it's time to run, and
they go on those short sprint like that to chase
something down. They'll raise their tail first.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Well, I'm wondering how easy it is for thirty out
six to penetrate their skull. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
I would rather find out from some distance though, wouldn't you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Well, I'd rather find out if they try to run
through an open field to see how far they last.
Are you talking about? Okay, don't about alligators. Okay, no,
talk about the alligators.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Tell me lately.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
There's there's Todd mckill and I'm gonna be just like
Chris Man with a pop shots and these guys trying
to escapes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
But that I mean, I've gone to the range and
fired moving targets, so that's not an issue I'm not
talking about. I'm talking about the alligators.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know where you planned to eat
in the tails or making luggage or what's going on here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
The luggage sounds like a good plan for me. We
feed the rest of the chickens.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Right that He's actually quite good for eating. But I
don't think any of the rest of it is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
I've never eaten any alligator if it's an alligator before,
But it's not something that's on the menu in a
regular for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
By itself, it's kind of plain if you blacken it
up or something that's really good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Yeah. Well, Trump is on the bandwagon again for lawsuits.
He's filed refouled an Iowa lawsuit accusing the Polster and
the Des Moines Register of Election in affairs. Remember that
the results that they false to report a few days
for election sure had Trump losing by wide margin. The
actual difference of vote was sixteen percent swing. And he
says it was all cooked up data to throw the election.

(01:06:03):
And it's hard to argue with that. I mean, how
do you get something that wrong on election night? Dismiss
sense and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
The lady who was espousing it, didn't they have her
own national news over the weekend before the election talking
about the data and what it suggested, if you will.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
And Seltzer, that's who it was, that lad you're talking
about yet, Yeah, so the complaint echoes allegations race. In
Trump's original federal lawsuit in December of twenty twenty four
allegend violations the Iowa Consumer Fraud Act. Yep, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
I think it's a he's got a good lawsuit there,
and imagine they're going to settle out of court. But
it's another victory for Trump. You know, for sure, you
don't have to go through the full lawsuit. They settle
out of court. You know, whatever they agree to, you've won,
I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah. At the heart of the suspioit is the Deway
Register's Iowa poll conducted by Seltz and Company, published in
the Registrant November second, just two or three days before
the election. The poll showed Harris leading Trump by forty
seven to forty four in Iowa. And I called, well, poppycock.
I called poppycock on that when that poll came, I said,
there's no way that's true, very much. At odds. Trump

(01:07:05):
won by thirteen points. Was sixteen point swing. So yeah,
there is definitely something weird going on with that poll.
And it was an outlier and they stood by it.
So now they're going to stand by it in court.
Good luck with that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Fools to do so, you know, and obviously how are
you going to justify you know, this poll who were
you talking to? You know, did you intentionally skew it
by asking, you know, so many people that were likely
to vote Democrat anyway?

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
What was your methodology here? You know, so explain that. Well,
it was definitely the oddest poll we saw. I mean,
we saw a lot of poles that were off, but
this this was I mean, you know, even a personally
like that, just that doesn't seem right. You had to
make that up, knocking the other pole in the state.
Predict Trump winning by five to ten points, and you're
saying he's losing by three, and then actually he won

(01:07:54):
by thirteen. So even they were on, but that's way
off the mark. Really crazy, how far they're off?

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
Do you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
See that Trump got another trade deal today with Vietnam.
Vietnam will give us duty free access to the marketplace
and we're going to charge them twenty percent tariffs and
everything comes in. Wow, that's really worked in our favor. Yeah,
big time, big time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
And of course they realize that it's still a favorable
market for them to do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
That, So it may be even with the twenty percent tariffs.
I think they can eat. They probably can probably can
That's that's a huge swing here. That's another victory for Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
You got to you gotta take into consideration. I mean,
what are we shipp into Vietnam. How much do we
sell them to Vietnam compared to how much they sell here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
In the long run, very little because of the barriers.
The quote is the prevented their stuff and get in
the country. Those have been eliminated as well. So we'll
see what we sell to Vietnam.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Yeah, there you go. We'll see how things pan out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Hey, guess who the front rudder is in a poll
for the Democratic nominee for twenty twenty eight. Anybody want
to guess?

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
Yeah, I don't know. Wait, I didn't know this one.
Was it Harris?

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Or Yeah, well it's not Kamala Harris. Go go ahead
with Pete Buddha Jeedge.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
Oh, god, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Sixteen. She's second with thirteen percent. Yeah, former Vice president
twenty twenty four Democratic president so nominie. Kamal Harris came
in second with thirteen percent. File by Gavin Newsmid twelve,
Josh Shapiro Pennsylvania and Alexandri kas Cortez with seven each,
Bernie Sanders with five, and Corey Booker at three. Corey Booker. God,
that is a rogues gallony.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Wow, yeah, I hear. I hear from a reliable source
that AOC is most apt to be the head of
the DNC and she's the reason why they have to
put directions on shampoo bottles.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
But you see where where America is heading. You're talking
about these people heading these large bodies, you know, the
Democrat National Committee, uh, you know, running for you know,
controlling this, say, the transportation you know of the country.
You know, Pete Budajudge. These people are running things our
country that are very important. And these are some of
the dumbest people that we have in our society. And

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these are going to be running the country in the
next few years.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
Come on now, Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, hold on,
They're not going to be the people. This is to
our advantage because they are stupid. No, but no, they
won't be the people running this country.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
No, but this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
We can't discount them because they have every capability of
getting into public office, high office, the House, the Senate.
We're talking about members of the House and Senate, people
that aren't far off from the White House in many respects.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Here.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Uh And also you think about Boodha Jedge, he was
a transportation secretary. Uh so he was a cabinet secretary.
These people are very capable of getting in there one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Way or another.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
And we're talking about, you know, election fraud that they
have no problem you know, participating in. So there's a
lot of things that could happen for these people to
take the CC's power in four years if we're not careful.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
We can't discount them for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
Pete booted judge the guy with stand up guy though,
I mean he was, I mean just around on the
bike out of the back of the suv two blocks
from just around the corner, just to show everybody what
a stand up guy he is and how he's saved
in the world from greenhouse gases. But he had that
gas goes on suv behind him the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
John, aren't you the one asked question about Pete boot
or not about but AOC and shampoo? I mean, are
you trying to say she's one of those directions and
it says rinse, lather, repeat, and she's still in the shower.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
She's just reason they had to put directions on shampoo.
That was I don't know if you realized that that
was a John Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Quote, wasn't. I think she's still in the shower because
it says rint lather repeat, doesn't say get out of
the shower, dummy.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Well no, yeah, until she runs out of shampoo and
she got to gather the shower to get another bottle.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
But she goes right back in all those rules. Yes, AOC. Yeah,
there's the sharpest tool in the woods. She had not Well,
the dollars declining because of all the uncertainty, the tariffs
and all these things. But as I said earlier, as
we went to break in April, the US Treasury took
in eighty one point five billion dollars in tariffs. That's huge.

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That's a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Yep, absolutely, yeah, for sure. And uh you know, but
now I want to go back to the AOC thing here.
The front runners real quick, we've got to start talking
about that who's next in line here? Because if not,
what we're going to do is going to allow these
people to slide right in there, and the Republicans are
going to just chop each other to bits, and we're

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going to be disjointed whenever it comes to taking these
people on we've got.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
To be careful.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Your good point right there. This won't be careful with
the Republicans are very independent minded people are gop R
conservatives to be very independent mind and outspoken about it.
A lot of times they shoot themselves in the foot.
And by that that's a good point. He Left is
very very good and skilled at keeping together and keeping
their message strong even if it's wrong. They keep it strong.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Who's wrong? Keep us strong? Right?

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
Yeah? So they yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right on that.
Willing to cheat. They've shown their good at it and
capable of it. This time around, they weren't capable of
doing so because Trumpets set up barriers on that, right.
You make sure he had people there within the polls
to prevent that from happening. And I think I think
the campaign did a good job.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Yeah, And whenever they get caught cheating, their sign is
never going to hold them to account anyway, because they
think that it's okay, it's justified for them. So we
have to be aware of that. So they don't care
if they get caught regardless, they're gonna have judges that
are complicit anyway, that's very likely not going to hold
their feet to the fire.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Yeah, isn't it amazing how they demand integrity until they're
in charge.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Of course, Well, people on the right do the same
thing as well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Ya sides, Hey guys, yeah, yeah, yeah, Alexandria, could you
get out of the damn shower. You're running out my
water bill stop it already, Sorry, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
You gonna take that shower even when it gets cold,
isn't she?

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
I had to get a triple sized hot water tank
for AOC, you know, so she runs through all the
hot water. So anyway, sorry, we are dating her now, okay.
You know that all Republicans want a dater. Come on, guys,
be honest, be honest.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
And she called a good friend Jasman over yet.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
No, I don't think she'd get her eyelashes through my
front door.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
I could have widened him for you need double doors, Chris,
you need double doors on your.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Not gonna happen, Not gonna happen. It wouldn't be proven
at this juncture. There was no ripro co.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
George H. W.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Bush, Oh my goodness, remember that Dana Carvey. That was brilliant.
Dana Carvey did the best presidential in prison by comparison,
Chevy Chase's You know, Jerald Ford was pathetic. You know
I all laughed at it back in the day. Well
I didn't laugh at it, but peop.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
He was so awful ones and now, but everybody knew
his name and loved him because he had a little
bit of fame I guess from the radio and the
other things that he did. So he won the branch
out in the movies, like you were only one on
there one season he thought, oh snl has launched me.
Did a few movies, and I just kind of floundered
after that. Right, he thought he was better than he

(01:15:10):
really was.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Perhaps, but I mean my point was that his his
impersonation was not very good him. Darryl Hammond did a
good Bill Clinton that wasn't absolutely but the best ever
was day in a Carvey doing George Herbert Walker Bush
not gonna be praying what din gonna do it? Read
my lips. It's really yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Well Phil Phil Hartmon did a good Clinton too, by
the way, Yeah, that's right, Yeah, he's really good, Philip.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
What is shame? Phil Hartman was murdered by his wife.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
Tragic story there, that is the tragic story.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
He was. Yeah, I like the one where he went out,
we went out jogging.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
He went to McDonald's and he's explained warlords, how they
intercept the big mac and war lords and he takes
a big bite out of it, and he talks about
the person's fries and see what happens war lords and
he eats it. Never had to buy a coke or
fries at the McDonald's though.

Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
No, he was very talented. I liked the news radio.
That was where it was really good. That was a
good show.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Yeah, and all those guys that got their start out there,
let's say with the groundlings, you know pee Wee Herman,
if you will, Paul Rubins and of course, uh he
helped actually developed the pee Wee Hermany character.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Uh Phil Hartman did, did he really? I didn't know. Yeah,
he help, he helped.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
He helped him to develop that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
Oh wait, we was way back.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Yeah, he was in the first stage production of it. Yeah.
Phil Hartman was no kidding, kind of kind of cool. Yeah, No,
it's really I was still shot shocked by when when
when he died. When it happened, I think I caught
all this off guard. Who knew that that family had
those kinds of problems, but sure did so. All right. Uh,
we were waiting for the big beautiful bill which is

(01:16:45):
sitting in the House and apparently it's running into bus
all there, and today is the second it's almost over.
We've got tomorrow and if they want to get the
President's desk, they're gonna have to finish it up probably
after midnight tomorrow. What are the odds. Let's let's put
some Vegas odds down here, John, thing's gonna happen. Give
me some odds percentage.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Oh, I think you're going to try to push it
through in the lest unless the Left can pull something
up their sleep. But what are they going to do?
Just not vote or not show up, I mean favors.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
There's nothing they can do because they've got the tiebreaker
and the Senate and they've got the votes in the House.
The Republicans bail on.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
It, it'll get watered down, in my opinion, and and
it'll get passed, but it'll be watered down. But you'll
have Republicans that are going to go back to the
constituency and say, yeah, we did it, make beautiful bill.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
We got.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
All the pork that's going to be on top of
that it's just going to be astronomical.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
I think you're going to pass it just like it
is way they sendate send it in. I think they
already know what's in there. They plan them shooting it
right on through. I don't think they're plan unhesitating.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
So you're saying they've read the bill before they voted
for it, John how Good, I don't believe they have.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
All they had to do is read the amendments of
Senate put into it. But at that point in time, yeah,
that'll be more. No, they had they had pages. There
was something about that where they had uh, they took
the time to have secretary to pay whatever read every
page of the nine hundred. It took them sixteen hours
or something like that to read it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
All.

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
That doesn't mean that every member of Congress was in
attendance to hear it being read.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
But no, it's just read into the record basically, the
way they can say that it was red.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Yeaheah, No, I mean who read they twenty eight pages
whatever it was that bill? I know I didn't. I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, I'm bellished. Just nine hundred Okay, A big
beauty is one page. That's a big beautiful bill.

Speaker 4 (01:18:33):
So you think, do you think it is a big
beautiful bill?

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
No, I don't. I think it's a But you think.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
It's gonna be a big beautiful disappointment.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
No, I don't think so, because I think the Corresial
Budget Office underestimates how much money is going to flow
into form of taxation after the tax cuts. And people
are like, what do you mean, Well, when we get
tax cuts, people have more money. They're pocketing more money
their pocket they save and invest, and corporations have more
money and they put in the capitol and the hiring
people and economies tend to soar within eighteen months of
two years after tax cuts. The first year will be

(01:19:01):
a big dip in revenue usually, but after that's going
to soar. And I think that that's all fine, and Daniel,
I just think that the CBO is a Congressional Budget office,
is underestimated how much revenue come in. And we've seen
it time together before when the Bush tax cuts went
through in the second round, they discount how much money.
And we set a record in personally income taxes in
two thousand and eight, the highest ever, even though the

(01:19:24):
final three months of year or a wash they're a
whitewash because you know, the market collapsed and we had
all these problems financially because of the subprime mortgage crisis.
And despite that, it was still a record year for
capital gains and tax reven coming to the federal We've
since theclipsed it, but that was for that time, the
biggest in history. That's after two rounds of tax cuts.
When Trump cut the taxes, we saw the same thing

(01:19:46):
with eighteen months to years. We were paying more in
federal taxes because we had a bigger pie, paying lesser percentage.
But we all got fatter and healthier and wealthier. But
the left doesn't get that. They think this is a
zero sum game. There's only eight pieces or six pieces
or four pieces in your pizza. Now, like bitcoin, you
can keep subdividing. You can keep creating new stuff out
of thin air. Look at all the marketplaces have been created,
all the jobs, all the industry based off ideas on

(01:20:07):
the internet. Don't even have to think physical. Accept a
computer and a data connection and power. That's it. You
don't have to build, you know, billion dollar factories to
make money. You can make factory. You can make money
sitting at home, knitting little frigging chotchkeys and putting them
on your your your table and putting it on Etsy,
you know, and next thing you know, you're a millionaire.
So you know, the rising tide does lift all boats.

(01:20:28):
And the pie isn't fixed. The pie is infinite if
you are creative and have entrepreneurism. And that's how I
feel about it, John, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
No, you're right, there's it's not it's not limited. Americans
were known for ingenuity and that's what we need in
this country. And we need ingenuity. And the way you
do that is create prosperity. If you don't create prosperity,
people don't have the money to work with the build
and create or establish themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Well I agree with that hundred percent. But I think
the one thing we need to add is as Americans,
we need a shrubbery. We just need a shrubbery. Oh,
what bring me a strubberry? The knights of me and sir,
we demand a shrubbery. What shrubbery? You can't come up
with something to the man, the man of strubberry about

(01:21:13):
a basket full of gold coins? You know, a shrubbery? Okay,
that's just silly, just silly.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
Is this was this the meaning of not the meaning
It was one python, yeah, the one before meaning of life.
I can't think of the name of it. The Holy grill.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what the one with it. It's
a vicious, mean creature. It's just a body rabbit. It's
a mean rabbit. Run Why run away? Brave Sir Robin,
bravely ran away? My danger reared exactly heard brave Sir
Robin turned and flat. Brave Sir Robin, bravely ran away.

(01:21:51):
He has the coconuts. Coconuts here latitude a swallow rocked.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
There's a swallow conkuri a coconut. Perhaps he's usually the
two has a coconut deck like he's riding a horse.
That was the best.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
That's his little little little trollers a little aid in
the back there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Yeah, he's a little hunchback guy.

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
Well, I thought Meaning of Life was better myself. I
love Meaning Offe. That movie was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
I think you gotta be more adult, more learned, and
a little bit aout the Bible to get the meaning
of life, you know, or the life of Ryan.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
That's yeah, oh my god, he says, you re noticed stoning.
He says Jehovah and this somebody throws the stone at
he's stop stoning me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Now, I think the best one, hands down is the
Holy Grail. That's just awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
It was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Author Yes, Lord King of the Britons, man't you kick?
I didn't vote. He should have he should have a
system of democracy. Yeah, I have author, Kick of the Bretons.
You made you kig. We are the Bretons, are Britons,

(01:23:07):
all the Britons. What we're Britons human mud and human filth.
They were the Britons. Oh my goodness, the humor is
just so good. Those guys are so spot What was
it fifty years ago? Now it's nineteen early nineteen seventies. Yeah,
that's crazy. Wow, John Cleees, Michael Pale and Eric idol Man.

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
Guys, they used to have a comedy show, didn't They.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Like Monty Python's Flying Circus. But I didn't think Flying
Circus was all that funny. They were funny gigs in it,
Like I like the one where I'm a lumberjacket. I'm okay,
I work all night and sleep all day. You guys
know that one.

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
I don't recall that one. I recalled the parrot. This
parrot ceases to exist.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Oh he's deep, he is dead. No, he's thought, he's sleeping.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Whenever they had mister Hitler moved into the neighborhood, it's
mister Hitler.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Four o'clock speech. He goes out on the in the
bal gives us speech. Now that was the show was good,
But the movies were better. I thought. I thought, yeah.
And also when they branched out, they have some really
good stuff too. I mean, I think A Fish Called
One was a brilliant movie. We had John Clee snaricidel
on that Eric Idol in later Life did all these
travel things. Really talented. Those guys were. So it's like

(01:24:23):
the guys that were with Second City in Camp back
in the day, very talented young comedians who just got
it and really did some cool stuff. A lot of
big names came out of Second City. Martin Mall you had,
you had, uh jeez, Martin Short, you had so many
of these names. John did, John John Kenny was in
the second see but a lot of these guys and

(01:24:44):
second John Kennedy Yeah yeah, because he was at c
t V. You remember John Kennedy was second State tell Yeah, yeah, No,
it's a lot of these guys, they're really really is
amazing stuff. It's amazing how much I shrunk the kids.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Yeah, Rick mirandis Yeah he's coming back too. Yeah, they're
gonna do uh it was a dark, dark helm, but
he's gonna reh Spaceball.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
It's part two another Spaceball as well? Is it mel Brooks?
Because he's in his nights, he's doing it. Yeah, he's
doing it. Ninety eight years old, he's doing it. Well.
I mean, I'm still waiting for his to World part two,
you know, all right, Yeah, this is gonna be great.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
I think it looks look a lot of the a
lot of the actors that are still around are going
to basically reprise the role, which is gonna be good.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Well, you know, you can't. You can't. He can't make
movies like that anymore, you know. No, It's like, you know,
you just can't do that. The Inquisition, what a show?
You just can't do that, man, Hey, Torquamada, what you're
gonna do? People would be so offended these days, Oh
my goodness, so many things in comedy you just can't
do anymore. It's just uh, yeah, hey, guys, you know

(01:25:46):
I I I was considered doing something this coming week,
on the thirteenth, two weeks away, eleven days. Somebody's in town,
not here. I got to offer free tickets to go
to Connecticut. I'm like, that's a bit far to go.
But h Rix Springfield, who's almost eighty years old, is
performing in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, And so I went on the
Ticketshore I sent me Ticketmaster and I looked at the

(01:26:08):
tickets and it said seventy six dollars for tickets, and
it was like two rows. Oh, like that's a deal.
I clicked on it. It's seventy six plus it starts
at seventy six. Those tickets were three hundred and twenty dollars. Oh,
so that was the end of that adventure. Rick Springfield, Yeah,
three hundred and twenty bucks. I'm not paying twenty bucks
to see anybody, man, No, but Rick Springfield, I mean,

(01:26:29):
it's probably last chance to get to see the guy
seventy eight years old. But it's a shame because I.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
Mean he's still trying to get Esse's girl.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Yeah, I think I think that's gone. That's gone. Yes,
I think he's missed out on that. But yeah, yeah, no,
But do you know that Rick Springfield was like the
USO equivalent tour what the Aussies do. He went to
Vietnam like in nineteen seventy, like nineteen years old or
something like that. Rick Springfield, Yeah, he was, you know,
just like our you know, like Bob Hopes tours the
Australians for their troops in Asia when they were deploying

(01:26:58):
Vietnam and also in in Korea before that, they'd have
musicians covering and Rick Springfield went on tour to Vietnam. Wow. Cool, Yeah, yeah,
that's pretty well. Yeah, no, I it would have been
cool to see it at three hundred and twenty bucks
plus the gasoline, the driving, the hotel for overnight. Man. Yeah, no,
I'm good. Yeah, outside the scope of my budget. It's

(01:27:21):
too rich for my blood.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
Some of us has gotten nuts now, you know, concert
anymore is just too it's off the charts.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
Yeah, I mean, look at seventy eight. How much money
you need to make off this guy? How much money
does you need to make? But rix S brings a
very talented guy, good looking guy for his age. Still too,
so I see that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
A lot of the arenas and stuff are raking in
the money. You know that twenty dollars tickets. He gets
probably maybe fifty bucks of it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Well, I mean, to be fair, I suspect part of
the inflation with ticket prices has something to the fact
that the CD industry is dead. Music used to make
money off CDs. That don't make money off CDs anymore, right,
So they got to make it somewhere. They're barely make
anything off Apple or you know, or Spotify or Shazam
and all that, so they got to make money somewhere.
I think you're making most of money in these concerts

(01:28:08):
these days, right, Yeah, the live shows is where it's at.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
Because everybody download them off Facebook or on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Yeah, post of doing all these different fan experiences and stuff,
you know, whether it's at a sporting event or race,
you know, whether it's a concert that's it's versus you know,
versus just having a straightforward concert where you're in and
you're out. There's all these other things that are that
are happening at the same time. A lot of up
and coming artists are on side stages and things like that,
so they usually make these things into festivals as well,

(01:28:34):
mini festivals.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
It's always a smart thing to do. Yeah, if you
can pull that off. You can get more a lot
more bang for your buck there, just depends how they're
organizing it. But we're down to the wire here, guys
with the big beautiful bill, And as we said, I
don't think we're gonna get there for Trump. I don't
think we're gonna quite make it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
Wow. If I was a betting man, i'd probably put
some money on it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Well, I don't bet.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
I don't either. That's why I said if I was,
because I don't throw my money away. I think going
to the casinos and stuff is stupid. I'm sorry for
those who like to go to the casinos, but you
put that money on the table, you're giving it away.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Well, I mean I don't mind people going to casinos
because I go to Vegas and I like to watch
people gamble. It's entertaining, so they want to throw them
by the way, I have.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
Some great venues. When you go to places like Vegas.
You don't have to go there just for gambling. I
mean they got great shows, great food all right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
The stuff you can do there, well, a a lot
of casinos have that. Now you know, this is just
across the way from where I'm at here, Cherokee, North
Carolina beautiful concert venue. A lot of people just show
up for the shows. I mean it was just over
there for the Beach Boys a couple of weeks ago.
You know, people just show up for shows and don't
even gamble. So there's there's other other drawls as well.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
The Beach resident Wilson just die he a few weeks ago. Yeah,
was he there after that? No? No, he wasn't part
of that, but he died just after that. Okay, okay,
So now we got to talk about this, this this
bizarre case in Idahoo, guys. I mean, I've delayed as
long as I could towards the end of the show
in case people aren't listening anymore. But what does it
deal with this Brian Cooberger dude who murdered these four

(01:30:07):
people in Idaho? I never understood that story. What was
going on? They caught him. Eventually he pled guilty so
he could avoid the death penalty. But did you guys
follow that story at all? Where he killed those four
college students? And how do you pull that off? Killing
all of them in the house when they're all there
right way? Mane?

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
Is this an old case or is this something just happened.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
It's amazing he was just convicted.

Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
Yeah, yeah, no college kid. It seems like I knew
something about this, but wow, that was a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Yeah, it's like, what was he like? I mean, I
mean he had to keep them quiet somehow, I mean,
I mean exactly, and these are all young people who
are fit. I mean, it's just crazy. I mean, no,
this was in twenty twenty two, so two and a
half years ago. He murdered Kaylee Kunkalvas twenty one, Madison
Mogan twenty one, Ethan Chapin twenty and Xana Kimodal twenty

(01:30:56):
killed four of them insane.

Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
I know no motive behind it, he didn't say.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
Yeah, I don't know they ever admitted to a motive.
I mean, the whole thing is crazy, he says. The
first two vicians were sleeping when he stole into the
campus house in Moscow, Idaho, at four o'clock in the morning.
Best friends Maddie Morgan and Kaylee Gonzalveez were in bed
together as he butchered them the k bar knife. He
killed them both in the bed. I mean, how did
they How did they not scream? How did they not

(01:31:22):
fight him off? I've never understood this.

Speaker 4 (01:31:26):
Want to take the guy out first. But I mean,
but it's easy to.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Cheek is sleeping together.

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
Yeah, but if you hit him so quickly and the
juggular they went or you know in the lungs where
they went a little too extreme out maybe you know,
if you stabbed him quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Well, the prosecuting attorney Bill Thompson choked up as he
summarized the details of the week's long trial that would
have revealed the cold blood and youthless, bloodless murders. The
families are been out of shape because they're they're getting
unsatisfaction out of this steel plea, which has divided victims families,
including the Mogans and the Goncalvas means Thompson's run down
on the evidence may have been the best picture world

(01:32:06):
ever gets what happened. So we still don't know because
the trial didn't happen. This guy took, you know, a
guilty plea, and they let him have it. I would
have wanted to allocute, you know, he should have allocuted
what he did. You know. Yeah, yeah, man, that's crazy. Yeah,
that's all ways.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
Yeah, there's no way you can you can get into
the guy's head to figure out why you did something.
You know, there's always he's not rational, This is sick.

Speaker 4 (01:32:32):
So I'm thinking to Chris's question, did these kids know
him so when they if they saw him, that they
recognized him and didn't freak out so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
You know, I don't know. It looked like he stalked
the place because he moved from Pennsylvania. He lived with
his parents in Pennsylvania. In March twenty twenty two, he
bought a k barn knife on Amazon, and that's when
he used to murder these people. Eight months later, then
he moved to Pullman, Washington, UH, just minutes from Moscow,
Idaho murder site, and he began to pursue with PhD

(01:33:00):
and criminology at Washington State University. So by early July,
six months before the murders, his phone began pinging off
a cell tower that served the house, but only at
odd hours of night, so clearly he was stalking the house.
Right during July and the night of the November murders,
his phone pined off that tower twenty three times between
ten pm and four am. I think there was no
evidence he ever had any direct contact with victims during

(01:33:22):
that time, but on the day of the killing. His
phone was powered off at two am, before being turned
back on when he got to Moscow at five am. Wow,
during the Black of Windy, drove his white Hyundai from
his Pullman apartment and parked at saw behind the victims
Moscow house. Wearing a dark mask, he slipped into the
home using kitchens sliding door at four am. He then

(01:33:42):
climbed to the home's third floor, where he used his
seven inch k bar blade to butcher Mogan and Gonzalez,
both twenty one year old college seniors, as they slept
alongside each other. There he left this knife sheath. He
had his DNA on it, which he later we used
to ensure his downfall. Wow. He then stole out of
room when he encountered a twenty year old Kimoda on
the stairs. She had been awake after picking up a
food delivery. He cut her down and left her dying

(01:34:04):
where she stood. Her room was not on the third floor,
it was on the second floor. Then he encountered Zana.
He ended up killing her with a large life Coberger
then moved into her bedroom where a boyfriend, twenty year
old Chaplin, was sleeping, and butchered him. Wow h Yeah,
that's crazy. I never got this. What's the motive? What's
the deal here? But he's dodged in death penalty and

(01:34:25):
a lot of the families are very upset. Rightly so
rightly so that's just crazy. I remember he got away.
They couldn't find him for a long time too. That
was crazy stuff too.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
Right, and trying to figure out what what the motive
was and what the connection is. You know, you never
know what some randos are doing out there. You just
got to be your head on a swivel. And you know,
I hate to say, you know, you can't trust everybody
that walks up to you with a sob story or
you know, like, hey, you know, I'm a good person.
You know, yeah you might you might be, but let's
not trust Everybody'd be very careful, be vigilant. You know,

(01:34:57):
you could have somebody watching your house right now. I'm
not saying that that what's going on, but you just
be aware of your surroundings. People should just be cognizant
of what's going on in their neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
Well, you know, the thing about this case is that
the public is divide on this as social media of
course too, not that we should reference social media for
our news coverage. But but the public's divided. People are complaining,
you know, they're saying, well, nobody really needs to know
what happened there. Only the families need to know about that.
I don't think I agree with that, because we need
to know what the the mo is or what the
motivation was, because you need to understand that to protect yourself,

(01:35:28):
you know. I mean, we don't need to hear that
grewsome details of how we stabloods and stuff like that,
but certainly we need to know what happened. We need
them an understanding. But otherwise people can't protect them against
themselves against the sort of stupidity in the future. It's
pretty scary, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
You learn from these types of things, You learn how
to protect yourself, you know, and you know, security experts
look at things like this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
You know, how did you get into the house so easy? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
Is the manufacturer? You know a defect on the door? Okay,
we can we can work around that and fix that,
you know what I mean, things of that nature. That's
why you need to know the elements of the crime.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
It's very important, yes, indeed, and I know you guys
are desperate to hear this news. But uh, porn star
and Netflix star Kylie Page has died from a fentanyl
over to this twenty eight year old. Never heard of
that person, So I was just say who. My first
reaction is who?

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
So I'm assuming you just stumbled across that figure to
be just kind of humorous stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
No, No, I pulled it up earlier. That's sometimes I
hold some of these things back, like the coburger thing
in case we get through our news a little too soon,
and this one here. But I mean, I'm like, who,
never heard of her? Never heard of her? Not exactly
the Ivory snow Girl, right, yeah, right, Marilyn Chambers, Yeah, yeah,
generations Americans know that is the Ivory snow Girl. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
Everybody has their own little porn channel nowadays, right, you know, everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Has only fans. It's interesting if you look at the
growth of OnlyFans, which is not just porn, but it's
mostly important. Sure, the number of accounts, it just keeps
going like this. It's almost five million people have accounts
on there now, and it's a company with sixty percent margins.
Sixty percent margins. Can you imagine that that's better than
Microsoft that's pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah. So anyway, Ah,

(01:37:17):
is there anything in the tax bill that bothers either
of you something you're worried about.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
Well, there's too many pages in there that actually know
what's in it. That's the Probably what bothers me most
is the unknown that's in there.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Yeah, do we actually know it's in it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:31):
A lot of people are concerned about cut to medicaid
and stuff. What is they call it workers Workers program
or workers something where you have to be contributor to
benefit and they're saying, well, eleven billion people are going
to lose their benefits and YadA, YadA, YadA. And the
concept is to encourage you to pay into it instead
of being a freeloader on it. You know, we've had

(01:37:52):
a lot of illegal aliens on it. We've had a
lot of people that just don't you know, they're leeches,
and it's crippling programs. You know, you want to have
those social programs. You can't have people leaching off it
and not be contributors when they're healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
But this is intentional. This is by the left, is
to make Americans dependent on the state and to turn
to the state to elect the big state. So they
can stay in power. We have three hundred thirty million
people in this country legally and a bunch of others
not legally. Here seventy eight million adults and children are
enrolled in Medicaid, not Medicare Medicaid. Why are so many

(01:38:27):
people enrolled in a free program that we the rest
of the country are paying for. Twenty four million are
rolled in the Affordable Care Acts and Insurance program, which
is the Obamacare nonsense. So that's over one hundred million Americans,
one in three Americans who are living off the doll
when it comes to medical Why is that allowed to happen?
That's absolutely insane, absolutely sane. And they're talking about people

(01:38:49):
at risk. Well, you shouldn't be living for free at
other people's expense. That's not right, that's not right at all.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:38:55):
Well, I mean, you know, if you're young and healthy
and able bodied, then yeah, you should be out there
contributing one way or another. There are jobs out there.
I mean, it's not like people are and saying, hey,
you know, we need employees here. You know, it's there
are jobs available there. Sometimes they are not the most
attractive jobs, but you know work.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
Is available, right, No, there's a lot of work available,
a lot of work, you know. But if this reminds
me of the nonsense with food stamps and the STAT program,
because we can't call it food stamps because that's the
meaning to people. But that's what is foodstamps. But they've
expanded foodstamps to people that make seen amounts of money.
In a family of four, we're talking about a wage
they should be able to live off of them, they
get foodstamps. That's you know, they've expanded number of people.

(01:39:37):
Remember there was like twenty five or thirty million people
getting food stamp benefits and that's just the recipient's not
the kids that are in that family and other family members.
It's insane, you know. This, this concept of entitlement is
really wearing in this country. And of course I'm going
to get the nonsense as well. You just do heartless
and not caring, no, no, no, But what you're doing
is creating generational poverty and generational and generational class envy

(01:40:02):
from the people that actually pay their way and carry
the load for everybody else. I see the situation in
South Africa where just about five or six million taxpayers
carry the rest of the country forty three million people
live off of public assistance. Forty three million.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
Wow, so what's the percentage there in South Africa? That's
going to be an exorbitant amount of the percentage wise.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
Well, I mean at the total population, that's two thirds
two thirds.

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
Oh god, yeap, I mean you're talking about collapse level here.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Well, they say that twenty seven million people receiving grants,
but twenty seven million people are heads of household most likely,
so they've got kids, they've got parents that live with them,
and so you know, the number goes at the forty
three million out of sixty three million people in the country.
It's insane, absolutely insane, doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
Yeah, yeah, that's unsustainable. At what point does that the
economy just collapse and just you know, turn to chaos. Well,
and that's where're at. Look at the debt.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
We're approaching forty trillion dollars of federal debt and that's
just a pacific Guys. We've talked about this before. The
debt picture has never really discussed in full context. You
have to include unfunded pension liabilities, you have to include
all the other things that are there, like the state debt,
the county debt, corporate debt, credit card debt, mortgage debt,
and suddenly we're looking at a headache that's quite large.

(01:41:16):
We're looking at a lot of money, and that's just
never really discussed that context. All we ever hear about
the debt is the national debt with the federal guys.
What is the state of California and debt? What is IOWO?
What do Mostly states don't have balanced budgets and many
of them are in debt and paying this debt.

Speaker 4 (01:41:31):
Most states are running a deficit.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
Right, and then we have to pay interest on the
bonds that they issue, the money they borrow to pay
that back, and that's money coming out of pockets to
pay for things that delivered nothing too many of us.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
Well, it's ridiculousness, you know. I remember, you know, cut
not not necessarily be a cut against George Bush, but
he did do and he waved his finger at the
American people when we had our economic downturn. And so
they have a responsibility. Everybody has a responsibility to pay
their bills. Yeah, well they're in the government, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
Yeah, it's a good place to start over in the chat.
Holden Callfield say, United State it's credit rating was recently downgraded.
You're correct, but it was bogus Moody's downgrade our credit
and purely political move despite Donald Trump, there's no justification
for that. There was no difficulty approving a budget. We're
operating under a continuing resolution. The debt has been getting
piled on for years. There's no change from when Bible

(01:42:22):
was present, just a couple months later or earlier, and
they did this is purely political nonsense. Purely political nonsense.
I mean, you could have had issued the same morning
anytime the last thirty years because the debt's growing and
because tax revenue wasn't covering. But this is purely political
to undermind. Donald Trump and I pay no attention to
Moody's downgrading because they proved they're an illegitimate bunch of
political hacks.

Speaker 4 (01:42:41):
So that you just said it right there, continuing resolution.
Isn't that what we keep doing since the nineteen nineties.
We're just continually creating a resolution on the budget. We're
not setting a balanced budget, we're not resetting ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
Well, they're not an approving a budget. We're just going
through the motions and just okay, carry the spending levels,
keep carrying forward and then they keep adding new to
add more benefits and more more advantages.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
So not need Congress to do a job and sit
down and actually balance this budget, figure out what they
can afford to spend. Not what happened, It happens, but
it's got to what are we going to do as
a nation when it's seventy trillion dollars eighty trillion dollars?
I mean, we're we gonna come up with this money.
We can't just keep creating it. Are we going to
dig it out of the ground? And we could just
extract all the goal from the earth and from the people,

(01:43:23):
And I mean, we can't just steal everybody's money and
say what, we got to pay our debts. You know,
sometime sooner or later, it's got to come doing in.

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
Well, the bigger problem here not just that is not
the burden, but the consequence of the Federal Reserve raising
interest rates. So much of this debt over the past
twenty years is borrowed at near zero interest rates or
one percent or less, so the government is paying back
less than one percent, which means that the money they're
paying back future revenue is worth less than the current
amount they borrowed. That's how that works. So inflation, that

(01:43:53):
dollar gets worth less and you're paying it back at
a lower value, so you're coming out ahead. But the
problem is that is that the interest rate through too
high right now, and so now we're paying more on
the national debt than any other any discretionary program, even
more than defense. We spend nine hundred million dollars year
in defense. We're spending over a trillion dollars year paying
off the debt. That's insane. Wow, yeah, unsustainable.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
Yeah, and at some point we're going to collapse ourselves
as a as a society. You know, what does collapse
look like in America? You know what does it look
like to the rest of the world when it happens
to know, it's like looks like California.

Speaker 4 (01:44:30):
I used to entertain the thought they talked about a
great reset. I thought, well, was that why they're spending
wildly is because they're planning on resetting all dollar values
throughout the globe and starting over with the clean slate.
I don't know, Well that that sounds nefarious too, doesn't
that mean so you're just gonna wipe everything clean and
everybody's gonna start with the clean slate? And uh, yeah,

(01:44:52):
something's wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
Yeah, let's hope not. That's that's definitely what we want.
We don't want to see the dollar devalue or something
like that that would have devastating globe consequences.

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
Yeah, that's what's happening though. And uh, I mean okay,
so let's talk about crypto. Obviously there's a there's a
move towards crypto. So is that going to be our
salvation in this? Is that because things like bitcoin are
worth so much that if we transit although they have
we call stable coin compared to to your normal crypto currency,
so stable coin doesn't gain any value. So I guess

(01:45:23):
that's really not the answer, is it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Well, crypto is only worth what people are willing to
pay for it, and that value goes up and down,
so it's speculative and that's the problem I have with it. Also,
I don't buy the fact that it can't be broken,
and blockchain technology can't be broken. I worked in that
security agency. You put enough computing power against it, you
can defeat anything.

Speaker 4 (01:45:41):
Just saying yeah, well anybody can create it, that's the
thing about it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
I mean, well, that's right, someone, you're great. A new
version of right that we do. We've got we've got
illirium ethereum, We've got we've got doge coin, We've got
we've got bitcoin. We've got so many different uh bitcoin, Yeah,
I mean it's it's it gets confusing and people don't
know how to use it, so a lot of them.
Then you also have the possibility that people, you know,
forget the code to their secure drive or the drive

(01:46:08):
dies and they haven't got it backed up somewhere and
the money's gone forever.

Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
I thought that was stored on somebody else's server. Is
that what you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Yeah, there was.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
There was a plot device on the on the movie
or TV show Billions that was recently out in the
last few years. That's that's a good I think HBO
had that out. You get a chance to watch Billions.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
It was great. Yeah, no, no, I didn't see that.
It didn't sound very great. Plot device. Okay, well interesting one,
but yeah, no, it's uh, the bitcoin is speculat you
might as well invest in port dollars as far as
I'm concerned.

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
So there's no there's no salvation in crypto regarding our
debt or ability to pay back our debt or overcome it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
No, no, not my view. Not my view.

Speaker 4 (01:46:48):
Yeah, like I said, you know, they do. I do
realize saying that because you're looking at bitcoin is a
type of cryptocurrency that's on the market, and then you've
got stable coin, and stablecoin just levels out with the
dollar value. There's nothing, there's no benefit of it. Well,
the dollars, you just have a crypto. You're just changing
your paper money into crypto.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Yeah. Well it's supposed to be a finite amount. And
that's the problem with the dollar. That's why the dollar's
worth less in part because we've been printing money and
money and so they've increasing the money supply. So economists
talk about the M one, M two, and M three
money supply. That's different types of financial instruments, whether it's
cash or it's you know, stocks and bonds or treasured nists.
So the actual cash in the in the economy has

(01:47:28):
been so inflated because under quantitative easy they printed more
money and increased the money supply. So the bigger the
pile of money it's available, the less dear or precious
it is. But people are willing to pay less for it.
Then that's one reason why the dollars in trouble that
plus all the speculation, plus your own power. I mean,
I saw the charge with the Trump at the other
other day of all these countries, all these countries and

(01:47:49):
interest rates, and we're like, way down here, one of
the worst interest rates on the planet. We're done with
countries that are basket cases. They are flying apart. That's
not even a remotely an accurate reflection what's going on
in the American market. Derbe Power needs he needs to resign.
He is an impediment to the health of this country's
economy with his slow foot dragging over lowering interest rates.
They should have been lowered a long time ago. It's

(01:48:09):
doing incalculable damage to our economy by discouraging trade and
discouraging investment and growth because people have to pay unwarranted taxes.
It's insane. And the tax in the form of they
pay more to borrow the money, that's what I'm talking about.
It's not a real tax, but you get my point.
The difference between paying a mortgage at three percent and
paying a mortage of four percent is about a thousand
bucks a month or something like that, depending on like

(01:48:30):
the loan. That's insane. That little bit change doesn't selling much,
but has a huge impact on borrows, and it puts
a break on the housing industry. And the housing industry
employs all kinds of people plumbers, masons, carpenters, engineers, backo drivers,
lots of people, and then the place gets built and
then it generates revenue for property taxes. Anyway, So it's
just jerone pound needs to go. And that's not because

(01:48:53):
Trump said it. That's what I say. I've had enough
of the guy who needs to go. We've had so
many disastrous Federal Reserve chairmen in a row. I mean,
where the likes of people like Paul Folker and we oh, yeah,
the tall Man yea, and Green spent. They ignored him.
They ignored the Paul Green span of Paul Volker. We're brilliant,
you know. The heads of the Federal Reserve, the people
get now are just political operatives. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:49:16):
I remember an article that I wrote, or not wrote,
but I read several years ago. He's ignoring the tall
Man talking about Paul Volker and how our economy is
suffered by the presidents ignoring what his advice.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
Essentially, well, we're in the same boat now.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
He doesn't he doesn't answer the president. Right, the Federal Reserve.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Had great advice.

Speaker 4 (01:49:35):
That is just completely Oh, I got you, just yeah,
your point is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
The Federal Reserve is ostensibly independent, but its director is
appointed by the presidence, so it's not entirely independent, if
you get my point right, right, yeah, And that's a
challenge we're coming up on the end of the show, guys.
I mean, I don't want to miss anything important. I
did not cover a topic here. You want to get
too tap if we were at a time.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
I think we're all right there we discussed anything iron
Israel related.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Where we at with that? No, what how do we
come out of that? On the other side of that? Uh, well,
Iran is going back to the Stone Age if they're
not already there. No, it's I think we covered it all.
I mean Trump it did what need to be done,
and we go forward from here while the media runs
around and tries to, you know, to h sharpshoot Trump's

(01:50:21):
performance around. I think Trump did the right thing. He
saved the world. Like I said on November fifth, we
saved America and maybe we just maybe we saved the world.
Looks like we saved the world. Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
Absolutely, you know, oh, Andre's tune different California, good good
stuff for Andre.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
Yeah, thank you Andre Uh Navy veteran by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
Okay, I'm sorry Andre. Were you abused as a child?
That's you don't have to answer that question. Now, it's
all right. We we love our navy veterans. They're fantastic
taking the Marines around to you know, to come in
after we do the hard work. Boy, that's going to
stir some anger from the Marines.

Speaker 4 (01:51:00):
I was going to say the Marines are proud about
being first in.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
Well, they are first in in some places. They're an
expeditionary force, but oftentimes the Armies first, and we're there
last too, and we forget that. We stay when everyone
else has gone home. We're still there doing the paperwork. Yeap?
And what do we owe you? What do we owe you?
We blew up? What of yours? Yes? Okay, here you go.

Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
I had a friend in the Marine who used to
use to ask, you know, what do you get when
you sent out three hundred sailors? And the answer that
was one hundred and fifty couples. Now, it used to
be funny back in the day. Today, you know, with
the with the with the with the standards today.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
Last, I think with that, we're going to end our
broadcast for tonight before the FCC takes us off the air.
All Right, folks, that's comments Haskett Service once again, two
July twenty twenty five. We'll see you next week on
the ninth of July, when the tariff letters go out
around the world from Donald Trump, cheers

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
The lesion of the tritic uses of the pret
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Gregg Rosenthal and a rotating crew of elite NFL Media co-hosts, including Patrick Claybon, Colleen Wolfe, Steve Wyche, Nick Shook and Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic get you caught up daily on all the NFL news and analysis you need to be smarter and funnier than your friends.

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