The Common Sense Conservatives

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters, every Wednesday
evening from seven.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
To eight pm right here on WUSMN.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Fifteen ninety AM, WUSMN ninety five point three FM, and
streaming live on WUSMN GOT Live making sense of the
inverted reality we are subject to you every day, the
common Sense Conservatives like here to help bring you back
to reality. Now, your hosts, Chris Wyatt, Todd McKinley, and
John Gorbin.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
All right, folks, if it's Wednesday night at seven eastern
right here on ws IN fifteen ninety AM and ninety
five point three FM, it is the common Sense Conservative
John in the studio there in Nashville. See a different
angle for you. How are you tonight?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, I got I got my camera back, man, I
finally figured it out. Doing good, Todd doing good here
in New Ham Free you know, just loving life. No
reason to say anything other just loving life.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Man.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
There you go, colonel, how are you, sir?

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Another dad? A couple more shekels in the bank. I
think I haven't checked the interest rates. They're pretty low.
Thank you. Jeron Powell. Your dirt bag go away, right up.
I don't invest in speculative investments. Yeah, you know, are
you trying to sell me tulips?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
You don't like tulips, Chris?

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 5 (01:20):
I love tulips, but I'm not part of the Dutch
tulip craze. Nor am I part of the bitcoin craze.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Okay, they bitcoins for Chris Wyatt, We got it.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
So something we've called here on the show, going back
even before the election, going back during the campaign, is uh,
the Epstein list just slaying Maxwell, being subpoenaed and everything,
and of course the White House saying there's nothing there,
There's no list, never was a list, all this, but
you campaigned on it, Donald Trump. Why all of a
sudden is there's no lists, And all of a sudden

(01:49):
Republicans have pivoted away from their being a list, even
though most of them ran on there being a list
and they're going to expose it. What what the heck
is going on in our country? All of a sudden,
no list? Were we at with that? Folks?

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Oh gosh, you know this whole thing I find rather
annoying and sallacious. I don't know what to say. About it.
I'm frustrated because these people who claim to be patriots
and claim to care about this country have ignored the
fact that the Biden administration didn't release this list. For
four years, they didn't say anything, and then suddenly they're
angry at Pambonni about not releasing the list. That's my

(02:23):
first problem with The second problem with this is clearly
and obviously a severius conspiracy and cover up over what
happened in Butler, Pennsylvania. It's becoming more and more difficult
to not argue that the Biden administration tried to get
Trump assassinated. The Senate released the fact that ten days
prior to the Butler assassination attempt by Thomas Crooks, that
they actually had a credible threat from another person, another party,

(02:46):
probably Iron, that was going to kill the president that
day in Butler, Pennsylvania. That information was never shared with
the President's detail, and three times as many Secret Service
agents were in Pittsburgh nearby with doctor Jill Biden. The
fact that these people that care so much about Epstein
and about these pedos is really disturbing to me. If
this energy was put into uncovering what we're in the Butler,

(03:08):
and while we're at it, what we've expected from many years,
we now have it in self. Because classified doctors and
declassified Obama and one of the greatest political scandals in history,
intentionally perverted the intelligence community to create a fictional Russia
collusion narrative. He should be tried for treason. People are
not upset about Obama, they're not upset about about Butler Pensania,
but they're upset about Epstein. Look, I appreciate concern for Epstein,

(03:30):
and I think that's interesting, but I'm very angry and
frustrated at conservatives in this country not speaking about those
other two issues.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Todd, No, I would agree with, and we can discuss
that as well. But you know, you know, we talked
about the list, and we said on this show that
there's not going to be any list that's ever going
to be exposed. No one is ever going to be
tried and convicted from having any association outside of just
laying Maxwell. I don't think anybody who's been on these lists,
even if there's video evidence of them doing things, I
don't think that no one's ever going to be prosecuted.

(03:57):
It's one of those things that if you're rich or
if you're connected or powerful, you know you're never going
to see the inside of a jail.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Celle, I think you know.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
My take on this is and has been and still live,
is Trump is putting us in bed with Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is very much involved in human traffing. Right,
numbers four of the nations of the world, of the
worst nations involved in human trafficking, six hundred billion dollars,
a lot of money and rate. Now, you're probably not
trying to queer his deal. So and I did use

(04:27):
that word correctly by the way, Yes.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
It means it means strange, that's your original meaning of it.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
So he, yeah, he doesn't want He always wants to
destroy his work. So he may have been told, hey,
look you need to leave this thing alone. So he
may be turning a blind eye at the moment. He
may not.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
He may never release the list. That's one of my
takes on it.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
But another thing is is just because somebody's on the
list doesn't mean they're guilty. So is it careless to
release a list of names?

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Is there even a list? Is there a list? I mean,
this is speculation. No one's ever had an evidence of that.
They're just assuming that.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
So okay, BONDI said, well that that perver had nothing
more than downloaded videos. Where did he download these videos from?
We talked about download downloaded videos from the internet. He's
talking about child she's talking about child porn. Obviously she
can't release child porn to the public. Nobody. Well, no, no, here,
Here's what I'm going with on this is where did

(05:20):
where did he download these videos? Where these were these
off the internet? Was just disgusting things that people made
in these foreign countries. And he was like oh yeah,
or was were these secret cameras that he had at
the island and these are people that were involved?

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Right, so right, speculation.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
But what I'm getting at here is if that's true,
if he had, if he has evidence of people that
have been with children from the island, then they got
a list they can compile. They know who's who and
what's what they do have it. But now here again,
you just released that to the public, or do you
just build your case and it'll come out naturally you
have a case.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
It's just a problem. Is this whole thing, guys, this
whole thing that's that's not a list, that's be people
who were in proximity were involved with Epstein who may
or may not be volbed in the list of activity.
I mean, for instance, you know Stephen Hawking went to
Epstein Island. I don't think he was knocking boots with miners.
The guy couldn't the guy couldn't talk. So if there's

(06:16):
anything and he's so called Epstein files or Epstein list,
he will be on there because he's on a manifest
flying down on a private plane. So this is a
very slippery slope. I agree that at this point it's
become ridiculous. And let me just cover something very quickly
before you go jump back in. Four hours ago, it
was reported that federal judge in Florida and the other

(06:36):
federal judge denied both jose Maxwell access to grand jury
testimony and the Justice Department, saying that their argument that
the public wants to know isn't sufficient because this is
grand jury testimony. This stuff is protected. So that was denied.
And within three hours, what do we have happening? Now?
Now we have Dick Derbin coming out and saying that
Donald Trump is named in the files. We have a
CNN report saying that Trump was met is in the

(06:58):
files and he was by Pam BONDI. I mean, this
is a smear campaign already. Just three hours after that
comes out that things aren't released, then they start with
this nonsense. Well, now the records can't be released, and now
they're going to claim that Trump is in them.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
I mean, this is this is so obvious, so obvious.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yes, it is. It is absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
No people in this country of every upset, human trafficking
is a hot point, at the trigger point. People are
upset and they want justice. It's been a lot of years.
I mean we're talking about decades. It's been going It's
been going on since turned in the twentieth century. You know,
it's gone on forever. But we become more aware of it.
Now we've made laws about it. We have an opportunity
to actually bring people in high powerful positions to justice

(07:38):
as we should Trump and Trump took a position of
it where he's kind of sweeping under the carpet in
front of us and even tried to align it with
the Russian clues of hoax. And the left made this
list up and YadA, YadA, YadA. I never heard the
left claim there was a list. I heard it from
the right, not from the.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Left, exactly from the right. And I'm not saying you
should release it, but if people are on there and
there's true evidence, you should investigate them and bring them
to justice. Don't just say there's no list, there's nothing
out there, there's nothing to it, all of a sudden,
after every Republican for the most part, campaigned on this
for years and years, and now all of a sudden,
you know, just a week and a half ago, no list.

(08:12):
Stop looking for it, stop talking about let's talk about
other things that now all of a sudden we're going
to bring back up again, which I think there is
Russia clusion. I think there is all that. But at
the same time, cannot can the dog not do multiple
investigations at the same time.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
No, they're doing it now.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
But my take on it, man, if my suspicion is
right about you know, Saudi Arabia investor money into the
United States. As far as I'm concerned, Saudi Arabia can
keep their money. I would rather see justice served. They
can keep them money in the United States. It's still
going to be here, it's still going to go on
without their money. If that was the case, If you know,
my speculation is right, then, as far as I'm concerned,
I wish Trump would just give them the finger and

(08:47):
send them on the way, send them packing, because we
can't lose our integrity for the sake of money trying
to grow an economy. We'll grow the economy Japan. We'll
just what announce stuff five hundred and fifty billion dollars
or something.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Yeah, yeah, five hundred bian dollar investment in the US.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
So now let's pivot to he brought up Russia Gate. Now,
the Director of National Tulsa Gabbert, she doubled down on
the White House Press briefing Wednesday, legend that the Obama
administration promoted a quote contrived narrative end quote that Russia
interfered in the twenty sixteen election. And of course she
made additional statements, and of course this is something that's
been brought back up. Where where do you stand, colonel

(09:24):
as a former Intel official with regards to the Russia
Gate and all that narrative.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
Well, which angle the leftists made up, angle that that
Trump colluded with the Russians, That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
The starting point.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
That's utter nonsense. You know, first off, it's it's it's
always funny how they accused their opponents of the very
things they're guilty off shore. You know, it was Hillary
Clinton who sold off our uranium assets to Russian corporations.
It's the Clintons who sold stealth technology while he was
president to get donations from the Chinese communists back in

(10:01):
the nineteen nineties for his re election campaign nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Those are the people with complicitness.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Now now we know based on this declassified reports which
we suspected but never had the evidence of, that Barack
Obama was unduly influencing the intelligence community and rejecting their assessments.
The intelligence community assessed that there was no Russian influence
prior to the election, because it was asked are the
Russians investing here? And the intelligence community the consensus was

(10:26):
across the board, we know this now that there was
no there's nothing happening here. It was it was insignificant,
was trivial, it wouldn't affect any outcome anywhere. And then
after the election, after she lost, they were shocked she lost.
They cooked this nonsense up and they went back to
intelligence Comunity's chief of staff went back and said change
the assessment to this the president wants this assessment, and
that's what they did. And then they started this whole thing.

(10:47):
That was the predicate for the illicit FISA warrants, which
were criminal. No one's been prosecuted for those egle Phis awarrants.
That's against the law. Those people, I was a person,
I was a federal lawenforce spential, a counter intelligence agent,
badge credential. If I went to a p VISA court
and perjure myself the way that Peter Struck did, I'd
be in prison. Why isn't Peter Struck in prison? Why
isn't James Comy in prison for knowingly signing off on

(11:09):
a false predicate. That's what got the door opened to
open all this stuff up and go after everybody. They
went after Flynn, then went after Carter Page, and they
got into Trump thing, and they created this entire narrative
which destroyed this country's reputation, which undermined a presidency, which
armed our foreign policy, harmed her domestic policy, and created
mountains of fake ink that people still believe in. They

(11:31):
still believe in this nonsense. These people must be prosecuted
full extent of the law. It is time for the
Justice Department to stop navel gazing. If they've got something
in this EPSTCEN thing, get it out there. Just release
what they've got, redact the names if necessary. Get it
out there so people can get over this nonsense and
start focusing what really matters, the prosecution of Obama and

(11:51):
bride Biden era criminals who violated the constitution, who violate
their oath office. They are criminals. It's a criminal syndigate,
a racketeering organization. That's what they are. They ought to
be going after Marico's statutes.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I agree. And back to the Epstein, Bill Clinton and
secretary former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are apparently going
to be subpoena by the House to testify in the
near future, maybe in August. We'll see where that goes.
But yeah, that the Intel reports with the Russia collision,
I think they should be subpoenia for that. I think
they should be tried and convicted at the same time.
And the colonel's taking a puff there, everything all right, colonel, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
No, it's something I just getting a little difficulty breathing there,
So maybe that's a little too excited. Uh yeah, no,
look at the thing is is, uh, Hillary ought to
be ought to be prosecuted for just being an idiot.
I mean, you know, I mean that I wish that
was a law, you know, I mean, you know, we
just prosecuted her for being stupid because she is.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
She's a fool, uh and you know, human being.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Yeah, I would say that too. I'd ask Vince Foster,
but he couldn't tell us.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Oh low blow yeah blow. What a weird suicide that was, right?

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Was that the one with two shots at the back
of the head.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
No, that's a guy was sitting on a park bench
on them all.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, that was one that obviously didn't die. Were he laid?

Speaker 5 (13:03):
Yeah, he magically transported to you know them all because
it was a good view as you as you're going,
you're going to pass the afterlife. Yeah. No, look, this,
this whole whole thing, I mean, I would call it
the greatest political scandal of the twenty first century or
since Watergate. But it's not even that. The cover up
of Biden's health is probably a bigger one. I mean,
and that's that's that's that's not.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Even a secret.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
We've got memes of the guy falling upstairs repeatedly repeatedly.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
You know, you said earlier that people weren't finding this
too shocking, Chris, But to be honest with you, we
all knew. We all we already had these ideas in
our heads about this for.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Years and years.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Exactly when they come up with us. It's like, well,
finally somebody came up with what we already knew. So
it's not shocking to hear it, but it's it's delightful
that it's coming out to the forefront.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
But what should be happening now is a demand for
prosecution for criminal charges, for for for bench warn't to
be issued against these criminals like James Comy, Peter Struck,
Lisa Page, Bruce or Lois Lerner from the i R S.
All these criminals should have benchwartz against him.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Now.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
The good news is that treason doesn't have a statute
limitations there, Barry Barry Obama, So maybe maybe hyperbole to
call it treason, but hey, it's just like you army man,
charge with everything you can throw in the kitchen sink,
something will stick.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Mister.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
They're just throwing out a destruction because of what they're doing.
That's what they're doing. They're throwing out a destruction, probably
sitting in front of a slow of lawyers right about now,
going guys, how are we going to get me out
of this?

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Right?

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well?

Speaker 5 (14:28):
I found it interesting, you know, watching Barry and his
wife on their podcast. You know, I couldn't help, Yeah,
I couldn't help, but watch it was on air, you know,
on TV, and watching the guy being so hen packed.
Imagine what's gonna happen to in prison.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, from minerstanding, he might like it.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
There, I don't know, I don't know. Look it's this
guy's look.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
This is this is so distressing.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
We had such amazing men, and yes they were men.
They're the ones that did It's a get over at
your feminists. It's such amazing men who founded this nation,
who declared independence, who stood up and fought behind trees
and rocks and fence lines against British regulars, outnumbered, outgun
and won our freedom with a little help from the
French in the end, but won our freedom and then
established the confederation that sucked. It didn't work, and there

(15:17):
were men enough to recognize that and in short order
correct that with a constitution. The most brilliant document in
modern history, the US Constitution, and found in a nation
built on incredible principles of equality and freedom for all men,
that is mankind. Ladies are feminists, men for all mankind.
And we had such a great start with such incredible people,

(15:37):
came together magically at a point in time and a
place in time that just never happens.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Lightning doesn't strike twice.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
And what do we get now in the twenty first
century egotistical manign idiots who are ambulance chasing, shyster lawyers
who lose, who are in for craven political power, self
agrantzsment and self enrichment.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
It's disgusting.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
The Mitch McConnell's, the Susan Collins of Lisa Murkowski's out
there in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Who's that? Who tell them out there?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Yeah, those people, man, it's they're disgrace. They're disgrace to
the memory of everyone who's coming before them in this country. Look,
I'm not saying this country doesn't have false Every country
has false because human beings are involved. Humans are fallible.
But we're beyond fallible. We're just in evil and malicious now.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Right, And we keep electing the same old types of
people and re electing them, and it's like everybody's like,
well I just won't vote, or they get to this,
Oh my vote doesn't count. It's like your vote doesn't
count because you don't value your vote. That's a problem.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
No, I got to tell you.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I've known people that they're vote, you vote just didn't count.
Some people are selected, not elected, and we've seen that before,
right when the twenty twenty election.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Well yeah, it's selected to be a candidate for sure,
not elected or nominated. But there was still an election
process in the general election, which of course we roundly
rejected them, regardless of how much they tried to steal
that one.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I answer to people and they say, you know, my
vote doesn't count. I'm like, in a way, it does
because if you refuse to vote, you make it easy
for them to cheat.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Got to still vote, right, and you allow you know,
the incumbent. The incumbent doesn't care if you're pissed off
at them. Part of my language, don't care if you're
mad and not going to vote, because that's one vote
that's not against them for sure. I mean, so you
need to show up and vote, especially in the primary,
and that's the only way you're going to get out
these people in safe red or safe blue districts is
they're voting the primary, and to oust them for sure,

(17:28):
get behind good people and good candidates in your community.
And sadly, far too many Americans would rather throw their
money and their attention at nonsense on a stupid screen,
you know, playing stupid little games that they download on
on an app store.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I got to tell you too, if you value your vote,
like you were saying, Todd, if folks value their vote,
they need to get involved because you know, this country
doesn't run itself. And there's a lot to be said
about volunteering at the polls. You know, Chris combaults for this.
You have people with the polls that that are poll
watchers and such, and it makes a difference. And that's
part of what Trump campaigned this.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Last election cycle.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
He got people volunteering to be at the polls to
protect the votes, to make sure fraud was to happen,
educating what they're looking for, and so on and so
for he had training and stuff going on, and a
lot of people volunteered and it really helped. And this
is something that should be continual every election cycle.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Right and well, local you know, count county, you know,
GOP s or if you will, even Democrats, you know,
they can offer up people to be pole watchers as
long as they follow the laws. I mean, I think
local parties should do that for sure.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
You know, I have very specific role rules about pole
watchers here in Pennsylvania. Simply have to have a document
issued by the County Board of Elections, and you're allowed
certain things. So I've only had official pole watchers at
one of like nine elections where I've been judged. I
think it is now nine I've done. And in that election,
we had a couple of pole watchers, and I'm not

(18:53):
obliged to let them see certain things. But but I
also have the liberty to do let them see certain
things alaw they're not interfereing with the with the election.
So what I typically do is where we have our
voting room, it's at a church. They have a room,
a kids room, and then that kids converted into the
voting booths and people sit in there. You can't go
in there, obviously, but on the opposite side, you walk
through a door and you go to the machines where

(19:15):
you put your ballot in. And I don't let them
enter there, but I do let them come around the
other side of the building where the exit is where
the lady hands out the eye vot sticker, and I
let them look in and peek in there if they
want to, you know, get an update, and then we
walk away. And then I come out every hour and
I give people updates as long as I'm not blocked
by taking care of you know, absentee ballots or you know,
contest anyway, so provisional bouts. I give them updates a

(19:38):
number of votes, you know, to a feign the election
and give them a sense how far it's gone.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
But I've never had a.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
Problem with pole watchers. But we're very transparent about things
about how things are done. And I suspected in the
presentialush we might have had a lot of pole watchers,
but we didn't. But then, to be fair, it's a
two thirds Republican registration in the county, so yeah, and
in my part of the county it's it's almost eighty
percent Republicans.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
So so foregone conclusion, the Republicans are going to take it.
Democrats aren't even going to bottle it bothered, right, So I.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Mean, so most people are like, you know, why are
they going to come to waste their time to they
go put their attention to someplace of Harrisburg where there
might be something that makes sense, or Philadelphia or something
like that. So that's kind of I mean, that's kind
of what the deal is. So anyway, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Well, the White House Secretary Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt excoriated
the media Wednesday for perpetuating the narrative that President Donald
Trump colluded with Russia to win the twenty sixteen election,
and she said, quote, unfortunately, so many Americans, from listening
to outlets in this in this room, believed in these lies.
And it's complete it's a complete scam, and it's a scandal,
and the president wants to see accountability for that, Levitt

(20:42):
told reporter. And that was just before D and I
the D and I spoke there and gave her briefing
as well. So that's interesting. So but I hope something
comes out of this where we can actually find the
actual truth. You know, whether you can still prosecute anybody
on any of that, and obviously treason you can still prosecute,
but any of the other stuff that's out there, I
don't know, But at least we should bring it forward

(21:03):
and say, hey, here's what they did, here's the evidence.
I hope that happens.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Well, yeah, I mean, you know, all this this fake
narrative that people still believe that there was no corruption
in twenty twenty, that nothing untoward happened, that Trump lost
all his cases. First off, people need to be honest.
Most of those cases were thrown out by judges who
had no basis for making them throw it, saying that
the plaintiffs had no standing because they weren't the cannon.

(21:30):
The Trump campaign only filed a handful of lawsuits, and
the one in Pennsylvania actually won. Judge Strickland declared that
it was corrupt, and then they covered that stuff up
and they had another court that overturned his decision. The
Pennsylvana Supreme Court tried to overturn it, but he's a
federal judge. They could never turn his decision. It's look,
I mean, it's the whole thing is just horrible. I mean,
I mean, how can anybody possibly believe that demented Joe

(21:51):
Biden got eighty one million votes, the most ever in
the history of the country.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I mean again, he couldn't form two sentences together and
he had that you know, I'm not making fun of
old people, but he had that old man little walk
hustle thing that like he looks like he's running, but
it's like you're just shuffling your feet really slow, moving
your arms make it look like you're walking fast or running.
You know, it's so weird. It looks like a dinosaur.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
What you're you know, what you're describing as somebody who
looks feeble. And it doesn't mean because people are elderly
that they're feeble, but he was feeble and that's how
he was walcomed like a feeble man.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Absolutely, But do you think anything's gonna come out of
this Russia collusion investigation or is it just gonna be
some more distraction for a little while. It's it's fodder,
it's it's it sells you know, uh ads on Fox
News or News Mac whatever, and it's gonna go away
whenever the next thing comes up.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I think that it'll be one of those law deals.
You know, they keep extending the period and stuff, and
they got a reason to you know, stay and all
that other stuff, you know, judicial stuff, and try to
try to string it along until Trump's no longer in
office and try to get the Democrats in and and
you know, spread.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
To the carpet.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
To me, I think that'll be his biggest strategy in
this if he's if he's guilty of the US and
and I can't believe that Telsa Gabber is going to
just release fodder. She's gonna put something out there, and
there's no subtenance to it. There's got to be something
to it for to put it out there. She's not
gonna put her name on it and say, well, no, actually,
we're just making stuff up. I mean will apparently.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Sure, yeah, And I don't think they're making anything up.
But it's like, you know, are they exaggerating it to
distract or or to keep us occupied on something else?
Now that we've shifted from Epstein to this new thing? Right,
the new thing?

Speaker 5 (23:31):
I guess have have we shifted from Epstein? I don't
think we have.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
We'll see, and the Congress is out of session now,
but hopefully by the time we get back and they
get back in session, hopefully there'll be some some hearings
and we'll we'll know a little bit more about that.
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Did you ever notice a pattern with Congress are always
having these hearings, judicial hearings as such, and nothing comes
out of them, you know what I mean. You don't
see any great legislation coming out of You don't see anything.
Just they educate themselves on a whole bunch of stuff
and then forget all about it.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Now raised off of it.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
Exactly. Committee hearings are fundraisers. Committee hearings are attention getting
so that your name is in the press. That's why, look,
no slight on Jim Jordan. But we all know who
Jim Jordan is because he's so active in the Judicial
House Judicial Committee for such a long time, and he's
stood up for everything, you know. And we all knew
who Lindsey grahamt was because he did the same thing
in the Senate. So now the attack on the two

(24:22):
Republicans just stating that that's the purposes committees.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
They never result in anything.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
They never lead to any legislation, they never lead to
any rebukes, they never lead any criminal charges. They're used
as a weapon so that you can subpoena people to
come test by for Congress, and if they don't, then
you can charge him with a crime by not appearing
in front of a bunch of shyster lawyers. That hardly
seems fair to me.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, that's the sum it up right there, what Washington
really is. And I was giving a speech the other
day or talking to some people there in the Veteran
Service Organization work, and I said, if you notice, if
anybody here watches a State of the Union, I say,
what happens. They make a rackus. They do all this stuff,
and immediately after they go out with their smart devices,
they did these little videos and they fundraise off of it.

(25:03):
I said, it's all it is is just show. It's
just a theater. Stop giving them money.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
Yeah, I guess me is that people haven't caught onto this.
I mean I caught on this thirty years ago. I mean,
that's what it's all about, honestly. Look, I mean there
have actually been committees that actually result and change. The
Church Committee back in the nineteen seventies, which castigated the
intelligence community for its criminal actions, and it was right
to do that. But I mean most of the stuff
is the nine to eleven Commission that came out of it,

(25:28):
But that was a whitewash. They covered up most of
the things that were caused by the federal government to
prevent us from actually, you know, getting information shared. So
you know, but it's look, it's Congress. What do you expect, guys,
Come on, I.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Expect a bunch of twenty three year olds to run
this country.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Well, well, there they are. They live in Silicon Valley.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah right, what I mean? You know, they're all aids
and stuff staffers, and they're in the early twenties, fresh
out of college, and yeah, I mean, these are basically
your decision makers. When you go to a senator's office
or a congressman's office, that's nine times out of ten,
that's what you get. Unless you're a big money donor
and deserve the attention of the congressman, you're gonna be
talking to a twenty something staffer who's going to jot

(26:12):
down a bunch of notes and probably drop it off
in the bathroom to be used for you know what
later on.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Well, the thing I hate about all that is dealing
with congressional staffers that don't know their butt from a
hole in the ground, and they're wet behind the ears.
They've never lived life. They're not particularly our ticket or bright.
They just happen to know somebody. That's how they got
the job or whatever. And they are condescending, disrespectful, and rude,
and more often than not, even if they were for
Republicans to attend, being leftist, woke tards who are very,

(26:41):
very annoying. I had to go and brief a lot
of these idiots on the hill several times, and I
found them to be people that just want to take
out behind the building and get a fraternity paddle and
just start swinging for about an hour.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, and they don't understand some of the most basic
things you're discussing with them. You have to school them
on that. And then after that it's like, well, time's up,
got to go to the next meeting or move on
from this.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
You feel like it was pointless.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, you know how you know how to identify when
you really really got rolled over is when they start going, oh, wow, gosh,
I'm so glad you guys came in.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
This is really really good stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Wow, you know really, I'm just wow, this is great.
They teach them. They got they got a school down
below and in the bottom of course, and they got
a class where they teach them what to say and stuff.
So when they're fresh they just go back to these
you know, trigger things they say to try to make
feel good.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
And so thankfully you came in.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. We haven't seen that. Yes, well
that's yeah, Holy can we can we see more of this?

Speaker 5 (27:34):
Well, the arrogance and the the arrogance of the ignorance acide.
The thing that I found the most annoying is that
when you brief the congressional staffers and then they get
what you explain to them wrong. Of course you explained
it to them in clear, clear English, perfectly clear. Here,
here's the priority, this is what's happening, this is the
approximate cause, this is what's going to happen. And then

(27:55):
they get it all wrong, and you're like, why didn't
I waste my time coming over here, going through security,
coming in stand building to breefee morons.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Not to mention, you know, folks that live far away
spend all that money out of the pocket to get there,
you know.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, I've heard a number of people who've been on
these that are committee staffers, like INTEIL or Defense committee staffers.
They're not necessarily committee of staffers for the actual congress congresswoman,
but they're the committee staffers. They're like, well, I've been
here for ten years or fifteen years, and they think
they're the expert because they've been on a committee staff
for this many years, but they've never worked in that
area at all.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Well, I mean, you know, let's look, longevity doesn't mean anything.
Susie's been working McDonald's for fifteen years, that doesn't make
it an expert in raising cattle.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Right, Okay, that's not the discredit everybody.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I've been to a few meetings in Congress where they
knew what they were talking about.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
They were good.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
You know, you have upper level people they walk next
to the congressman or the senator all the time. Well,
and they're on the ball.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
And you also have young interns that are also on
the ball, that are very smart, and we're going to
be great and wondrous people in their life if they
stick to the path. But what I'm just saying is
that a lot of these people on the hill feeling titled,
they think they're special, and they think they're better and
above other people and above the law in many respects,
and it's just quite annoying. And I just don't cottonto
that because we all put our pants on the same way. Well,

(29:12):
I hope you don't. I don't do handstands when I
put my pants on, but you know, and and I do.
And it's unpleasant as it is. We all have to
use the restroom at some point for number one, number two.
No matter no matter how special, how presidential, how how imperial,
how monarchical you are, how many CEOs you are, you
still do the same things everyone else does. And we
all procrate in the same way, unless you know, use

(29:32):
a Petri dish. So you know, these people to get
over themselves. They're just homos sapiens. They're not better than
anyone else unless they apply themselves better, and many of
them don't. They just think they're better because where they're at,
and that's very annoying.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
So what you're saying is nobody's better than anybody in
this world. Some people are just better off, and they
tend to get that row.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Well, what I'm saying is that we're all endowed by
our creative with certain in the rights, chief among them,
of life, libery, in the pursuit of happiness. And the
fact that you're born rich doesn't make you special. The
fact born port doesn't make you bad, And and vice versa.
You know, conversely, it's the same thing. The problem is
that people buy any things. You know what in this this, this, this,
I think in our society starts with the lunacy of

(30:10):
it's kind of gone away. Now people don't say it
so much, but go back twenty or thirty years ago.
Every time people talk about sports figures like Michael Jordan's
hero he's a hero.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
He's a rogue. No, he's not.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
He's an amazing basketball player, he is a sports I company.
He's not a hero. What did Michael Jordan do that
was heroic? Did he save a drowning child? Did he
save malcol Jamal Warner? No, he didn't. We know they
didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Did he go into a burning building and save a cat?

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Was he get No? Did nothing heroic?

Speaker 5 (30:36):
He did amazing feats on the on the and he's
a wonderful spokesman, very particulate guy. And you know, aside
from his gamble, he habit.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I like him, But you know, I think Nike thinks
he's pretty heroic. He's made them a lot of money.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
Yeah, slave Lambornike shoes made in Vietnam in sweatshops. No,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Tune in at the top of the hour when the
Colonel is going to be singing Tom Jones. Hey there,
pussy Cat, I think that was Tom Jones, right.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Whooo.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Tom Jones is a stud man.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
He is awesome, absolutely yea. I saw him in Vegas
in nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
I flow up to Vegas from Fort with Chicker for
the weekend and my friend and I we went to
the MGM Grand and Tom Jones was playing in fifty
five dollars for a thirty four minute show. I will
never forget that. But we're sitting in the front row,
which is really cool because Tom and he was in
his fifties then, so he's like, stand up on stage
and he still got the gyration going, and he said,
you know, starts singing all the stuff. You know, it's
not unusual to be loved anyway. And all of a

(31:29):
sudden I got hit in the here.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
I'm like, what the heck? And I looked down on
the table as a pair of women's panties.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
I hope they weren't like you know they were they
were they were fresh out of the packet. They were
they were not okay, right ah, no, no, no, Wood,
keep me right in here, I'm like, what the heck.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Panties the pack? He says, dirty old for the loom right.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Fresh out of the packs, Chris.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
It was what's going on there was?

Speaker 5 (31:59):
It was a great Victoria should have kept all right, Olks.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
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Speaker 5 (32:15):
Hey, John, don't choko that coffee. I say, you choke
on your coffee.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
God water man, I don't do coffee this time of day. Well, yeah, man,
comment sense Conservative, you never know what you're gonna get.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Yeah, tell me about a Victoria's secret.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
And Tom Jones underwear I don't know.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Well there were his when he picked them up off
the table.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
They were so One thing we haven't talked about or
seen really on the news much lately is Zelenski and
Ukraine and Russia war. Where are we at with that?
And what the heck's going on over there?

Speaker 5 (32:43):
All? The war continues and it's it's drone warfare essentially
that most of the has been conducted by drones. Uh,
And we see this week protest, over two thousand people
in Kiev protesting yesterday because Lensky and legislature are limiting
the anti corruption measures because they're just a bunch of
grifters and they don't want to buy watching what's going
on in a democratic Ukraine. Over a decade ago, they
put these measures in place to ensure the country wasn't corrupt.

(33:05):
The grifter in chiefs chief comes into office and refuses
to leave office and instigates a war with Russia and
is still there, and it's grifted the US out of
two hundred and fifty billion dollars and can't account for
a penny of that. And now they want the anti
corruption units to be dismantled. That's what's going on in Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah. Well, and it looks like, I guess this afternoon
or recently, he proposed that he's going to put those
protections back in place and keep the anti protection, the
independent anti protection corruption organizations in place. But we'll see
how that goes. We'll see what that legislation looks like.
I don't trust the guy in the least.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
No, I don't trust him at all. And it's interesting
to see that Trump has decided that, you know, we
can't do anything with Putin, so we're going to back Ukraine.
Well I don't think that's the answer, but you know,
we don't have to agree with everything with the president.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Right absolutely, and in GP right now it's pushing a
censure on Democrat and Machaiver over as salt charges. I
don't know if you guys saw that representing Clay Higgins
out of Louisiana former. I think he's a sheriff down
that way. Maybe how he patrolled guy La Monica McIvor
over an incident with law enforcement during a coggrescial oversight
visit to a new immigration attention facility in New Jersey
where she essentially punched someone that was on staff there

(34:15):
or pushed them. So I think the salt chargers are
in order. I mean, these people think they can just
slap somebody because they're a member of Congress. I'm sorry,
that's as salt, brother and sister. You need to go
to jail or at least pay some sort of fine.
Something works for me, Yeah, we go.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
The left is who is that put that out there
about Obama being busted and they said, the Left made
certainly made us understand that nobody's above the law.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, it shouldn't be. Shouldn't nobody should be above the
law for sure, right to includive sitting president or or
former president.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Well, that's what the impeachment process is all about. If
he breaks the law, you impeachment and.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
No hold on, hold on. Impeachment isn't for breaking onwnes. Now,
it's a political process. You can be for breaking law,
but it can just because you don't like someone. It's
the it's the means to remove an elect official from office,
and and that's why impeachment doesn't result in the criminal
conviction it is.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
But I'm just saying, you know, if the president goes
out and you know, does something illegal that that's not
that doesn't wart his job, that that's part of what
the impeachment process is about.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
Yeah, No, No, I'm just saying, I just want to
make sure people are clear because people, you know, a
lot of sumps are made by a lot of people
that aren't familiar with civics, and so I just want
to make sure everybody's clear on that.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, it is definitely it's about removal for whatever reason.
Usually there's something ethics involved in it.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
But well it says crimes you know, missemeanors. Yeah, so
that implies it's criminal action, but it can be used,
as they did in the rest of collusion narrative, to
impeach someone for not even community crime. There was no
crime there.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
So sure. So anybody watching Steven's Colbert as decades or
years or whatever.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
No, I haven't watched him since he was the little
goober came on that previous program. Wasn't he on Comedy
Central with his predecessor, Yeah, yeah, John Stewart.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, he was one of the spoofy uh you know
quote unquote conservative reporters or whatever. Yeah, the aloof conservative
reporter or whatever.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Yeah, he was.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
He was.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
He was stupid then and he's even dumber now. But
now he says he's gonna they were foolish because they
didn't They didn't fire me, they didn't kill me. So
I'm gonna spend ten months dumping on Trump. Did get
a live Nobody cares. You got to say, you and
Shepherd Schmid's to get Smith's to get a room.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
And that's all Leah, That's all they've done is sit
there and go after Trump. Late night talk shows. I mean,
first off, they kind of outlived their usefulness because that's
all it is, and now just dump on Republicans or
Trump or whatever. I'm glad his show is going away.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
I mean why not.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I mean, you you've done David Letterman a major disservice
in the way you've handled that show since he took over. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
No, I agree. Uh, look, late night TV is dead,
and it started with the death of of Saturday Night Live,
which has had many deaths occasionally comes back from the crypt.
Saturday Night Live is not even remotely funny. They wasted
four years of it would have been hilarious late night
television if they could just just had so much fun
with the lunacy of Joe Biden. But they're just too political.
They couldn't. They couldn't make fun. I mean, you know,

(37:08):
it's it's so late night TV is so people are over,
They're watching Netflix and Amazon Prime and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
So yeah, absolutely, where you can just stream an entire season,
not something and wait week after week, I mean I
kind of like it that way for sure. I love
being able to stream or even if it's you know,
you have to wait week after week. I like to
save up three or four shows, like say HBO, for example,
I do watch The Gilded Age. I'm gonna I gonna
admit that, but I'll save up two or three shows
and watch them kind of back to back. I think
that's the way to go. I just kind of like

(37:36):
watching TV that way.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
Well, yeah, as I say, people love to binge watch
nothing on that sometimes you know, it depends on the show.
I mean like I can binge watch Dark Matter, I
can binge watch that series. But I tried tried to
binge watch Ballard, the follow on from from Bosh, and
the first couple episodes were kind of thready and not

(37:58):
even but so and I watched a few but I'm like, ugh,
I'm wasting my evening. Then it took a break and
a couple of nights, and a couple of nights later
I watched another episode and I said, you know what,
I'm just gonna space it out so it lasts longer.
Becau it's only ten episodes. And then I got to
like episode seven, like oh no, no, no, no, no,

(38:19):
I got any more time to watch this. I this
is getting good man, And I started binge watching the
last three episodes in fact, last night, I delayed the
broadcast of my night house program by half an hour
because I still had to watch twenty five minutes of
a Ballard.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
So there you go, folks, he was neglecting his audience
to finish off a TV show.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
All right.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
On the upside, the audience.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Was up fifty percent because I started later, which was
earlier or later in the morning, Chris South Africa.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
So it worked out.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah, it worked out. It's a beautiful thing about podcasting.
You can change your schedule.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Yeah, well that's pretty consistently.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
You tell me about night outs. I'm seeing a lot
of folks on social media post about it, you know,
Facebook especially, I see it pop up Chris White's night OUs.
Tell our audience here who may be not not aware
of it, tell about that and where they can watch
night OUs or listen to it.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Really, I had no anybody even knew about the program.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
It's getting out there, Billy Paynter especially sharing it though.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Okay, well I haven't heard for billion in a while.
I was wondering what happened to him. But now it's
a night owls. Night OL's is just my late night program.
I mean, I'm trying to you know, replace the likes
of Stephen Colbert, who are just annoying and boring. But
it works out well because it's it's eleven o'clock at night,
and I used to go for an hour and a
half or maybe a little bit longer. Last night I

(39:29):
went for two hours. Sometimes you get in the conversation,
you're talking to your audience, you're discussing things, you don't
realize what time it is. But it's it's just you
know's it's not a news program. We bring a few
news items in if there was breaking news. Last night,
we had some big news to talk about because the
piece of legislation, House Resolution twenty six thirty three, which
is in the House Representatives to review the relationship with

(39:52):
South Africa and potentially sanctioned leaders of the country, that
made it through committee last night, which was huge news.
And so last night I talked about that for a
bit and then anyway, so that's it's night. OL's it's
it's night here on the East Coast, and it's evening
in the rest of the United States except for maybe Hawaii,
and it's early morning in South Africa because right now
we're six hours behind and when we go to daylight

(40:13):
savings time, it'll be six am for them, and it
works out really well. But because of delayed last night,
we had a larger audience than we've had the past
few nights, which was nice because not everybody's up at
five o'clock in the morning to listen or watch.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Right, absolutely, And so you said, it's not really structured,
it's just whatever you want to talk about, essentially, right, right.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
It's it's it's it's like the view but interesting. Yeah,
it's like the view but interesting. Yeah. No, uh, And
I don't have I don't have a bunch of harpies
next to me, so h Pikachu might make an appearance.
Pikachu might make an appearance on this stool next to me,
but there's no harpies here. No, it's it's it's and

(40:50):
we talk about everything, and we talk about Trump, we
talked about America, we talked about Europe anything, and then
also talking about music and cultures. And last night the
other night, we're talking about Austin Powers briefly.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
So yeah, baby, I love it. I hope there's a
new movie coming out. I mean, I think I think
the world needs a new Austin Powers movie, just to
have just to have fun and make fun of everybody.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
Well, did you see that the series that Mike Myers
did a couple of years ago called The Pentavern The
PENTAVERRC was hilarious? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I did not. No, I think it's on Netflix.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
I think it's called the Pentavern. Of course the Pentaveric
comes from So I married next Murder, Yes, and he
talks about the you know, it's called the Pentaborits. They
need foot foot night, the the Getty's, the rough Child's
and Condelsanda's before I went Teet's up.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
I hate the colonel.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
Oh can you hate the colonel?

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Oh? What is we beat the eyes? He makes it substance.
We puts it substances, Chicken, it makes you craven. Fut Nightly,
the special herbs and spices and all that.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Right, Oh my goodness, I mean introducing, reintroducing words of
the American cultural scenes that we don't really use. You're
like four score four score, No, it's zero to zero. No, no,
eighty years ago, huh, I scores twenty years. I mean
that's just something we just don't know, you know. And fortnitely,
what's fortnightly? Is that? Is that?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Like?

Speaker 5 (42:06):
Is that an online game, yeah, video game, Yeah, no,
fortnightly is every other week?

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Or the word thrice you know, I like using that.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
Oh there you go thrice, or or just dropping the
article in hospital, what is it hot? You mean in
the hospital or in.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
A hospital, in university? In hospital? Which because you think
about and there's thousands of hospitals and universities out there,
so you can't say the hospital because my town has
like three or four, you know.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
Just see, so you're defending the English misuse of the
English language. Okay, got it, got it?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
No, No, no, I'm.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Not defending in America, how we kind of screw it
up with saying the hospital. It's like, yeah, which one
or even just you know, just say the just say hospital.
That's I get that.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
There's you know, where I grew up, there was one
hospital in the county. So if they're in the hospital,
you know where they're at. In fact, right, yeah, there
wasn't even a hospital in my county. Be honest you
I had to go to Fairfield County next door to
go to hot spell seby knew it was no. Look,
I mean the British, look think they can't spell correctly.
They spell color incorrectly. They spelled flavoring correctly. They spelt
the French way because they were just they were conquered
by the Normans and they haven't gotten over it yet.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Is everything that with the U in there? Color? Yes,
flavor with the U?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah right, many of them don't, don't, don't, don't have
any teas in the rough of that. It's like they
are here in New England.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
It reminds me of the TV show Fraser. You know,
he's like, I spelled color with the U. He's such
an Anglo file.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Yeah. Anyway, Yes, I guess we got a little bit
away from politics for a moment.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Absolutely, But a federal judge in Maryland has prohibited the
Trump administration from taking Kilmar Abrago Garcia in immediate immigration
custody if he's released from jail in Tennessee while awaiting
trial and human smuggling charges. According to an order issued
on Wednesday, US District Judge PAULA Zenis, I guess that's
how you spe say that. X Y n I S

(43:57):
ordered the US government to provide notice of free business
days if Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE intends to initiate
deportation proceeding against the Maryland construction worker. I'm sorry, I'm
not going to let you know whenever I'm going to
arrest you and deport you from this country or take
you into custody away to trial, I'm not going to
allow you time to flee this country or flee jurisdiction

(44:17):
or anything like that or hide out. Sorry, federal judge,
you're out of your mind. As soon as he's released,
put the cuffs on him.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I can tell you that human trafficking is an international crime,
and there's no country maybe North Korea, you might be
able to flee to that they can't extradite you. What
it'd be nice and convenient if you can pick up right.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Home. He could go right back home and just go
right back to doing whatever. Nobody's going to deport him
from there for sure, you know, not going to happen.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Look, these judges are out of control. You know, the
federal Gumment has a responsibility to adhere to the laws
that the Congress passed and presidents have signed and to
the Constitution, and courts don't have right to override that.
They must enforce the law. I'm tired of these rogue
judges and quite frankly, I mean, you know, I think
there's going to be very soon a run on tar
and feathers.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
As we as we as we should right have a
big vat of tar. We we drive it around on
a flatbed and be like, all right, your turn, let's go.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
I was referring to it's not just an issue with judges,
but have you noticed there's so many people in this
world anymore think that they have to have some sort
of charge in somewhere where they can't stay in their
own lane, and they're trying to either create a five
o' one C three and influence the whole world on something,
or they're trying to get involved, like running over to
a judges house to influence them on a ruling.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yeah, there's a strange mentality going on anymore, Like Hey,
you know, I could take charge in this, and I
give you a group together and we could do this,
and it's like you guys don't have a clue.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Yeah, yeah, especially now, I gotta I got a question. Now,
this is kind of a general question about elections. Do
you guys support a judicial elections like electing judges or
do you think they should be appointed?

Speaker 5 (45:58):
Well, I think certain judges should be elected, particularly local judges,
because people locally should have the best feel for who
these people are. And you shouldn't lard over people by
parachuting someone in who's not from the area that doesn't
know it. So I think that we should be able
to vote for judges locally. But you know, we vote
for Supreme Court judges in Pensylvania, and I find that

(46:19):
kind of odd because nobody knows. We don't know who
the ack these people are. And so that's one where
you know, it's like, I think that federal judges should
be appointed by the president. I agree with that, and
I think that, of course Supreme Court justices. So I
think the system we have mostly works. I mean, that's
my goal.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Yeah, in Tennessee, we don't vote for a Supreme Court directly.
We vote to retain or not to retain, and of
course we don't retain. They have to be reappointed in
a certain amount of time.

Speaker 5 (46:44):
What about.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Oh, I'm totally unaware on this man. You know, I
thought I judges were appointed. None, No, anybody elected as
a judge.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
I mean, we vote, we vote for sheriffs, you know,
we votefs.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
You know, so chief law Enforcement Officer in account.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
I mean, if it's to answer your question, if it
was up for you know, people to make a choice
whether we remain electing or we go to electing or
remain with the appointment.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I'm in the middle on it. I think I never
gave any thought, to be honest with you, I just
went with what goes on. It would be nice to
have the ability to vote.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
I guess, well, and that's why I mean. The system
we have I think works pretty well. But you know,
in South Africa, just give an example. In South Africa,
they have a Judicial Services Commission, and the Jugital Services
Commission includes a politician who has been credibly accused of
firing live ammunition into a crowd, endangering public safety, assaulting
a police officer at a funeral, singing songs.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
To murder white people.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
He's on the Judicial Service Commission and he's one of
the people that picks the judges that they recommend to
the president to appoint. So the President appoints them, but
he does it on the advice of the Jugital Services.
So it's basically a board that picks people members of parliament.
I don't like that system, you know, And in South Africa,
you don't get a trial by jury, you get a
trial by judges. Judges can be bought and can be corrupt, absolutely,
And when you have a felony charge, you have to

(48:06):
convince a dozen jurors that you're guilty, one and one
and you're off, whereas with a judge there's only one person.
And as an individual, do you get to address the
court or does your barrister or lawyer have to do
that for you, like in some places. I mean, if
you can, you can you ask the rest, You can
be interviewed, you can be you can be testified, you

(48:27):
can testify the trial. But I mean I'm not sure
if you're asking can you speak in your own defense?
Is that what you're asking?

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Yeah? Essentially, can can you defend yourself? Or do you
have to have a lawyer?

Speaker 5 (48:35):
You know, like in you Oh yeah, yeah, I mean
if you you know, if you can't afford lawyer or
you want to defend yourself, you know, the client has
is his own lawyers.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:45):
I don't know that rule on that, I don't know.
I've never seen it, so.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
I'm just curious. So Dartmouth conwech President Cion Baylock, I
think I mispronounced that is gaining fans a monk of
service for refusing to sign a letter in defense of
Harvard University as it fights the Trump administration's attempts to
freeze two point two billion dollars in federal funding. Baylock
defended her decision in April riding into the Dartmouth community
that quote, receivership, censorship, and external pressures about what can

(49:11):
and cannot be taught or studied hamper the free exchange
of ideas on our campus and across institutions. Dartmouth will
never relent on these values in quote. I think that
makes perfect sense. Hopefully the rest of the Congress and
can get on board with that. Stop funding these large
institutions that have no business of receiving federal money.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
I don't understand it. I don't you know?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
This is like corporate welfare, right? Why they charge a
zuper amount of money for these people to go to
these schools. You know it's not cheap to go to Harvard,
and then they turn around and get government subsidies too.
Why they can't think what? They don't manage their money?
What's going on here? I know government will pay for
studies from these universities. I think University of Michigan into
a transportation study or down there Virginia Tech or whatever,

(49:53):
and they'll pay for studies. But are they just handing
over money like here, you need a bunch of money
so these kids can get an education. What's going on?

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Well, the real problem with all this stuff is that
schools like Harvard have these multi billion dollar endowments. They're
sitting on a lot of money. Why are we taxpayers
funding a school that hates America and hates whites, hates Christians,
and hates heterosexuals. I mean, and it tolerates anti Semitism
against its own student body. I mean, these people should
be charged with crimes, not not getting federal dollars.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Yeah, Well, you know, any form of corporation should be
able to stand on its on two feet, shouldn't it.
I mean, we should be subsidizing corporations or universities.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Or I I agree for indigency, but.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
I agree, but we have to be careful what we
say by subsidy. That's important distinctions. So, for instance, poor
students who don't know the resource of university get grant
money from the federal goartment and sometimes from states. So
a lot of people argue that's a subsidy to these
schools because they're attending those schools. I would argue against that,
because your subsidized a student, not school.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, yeah, I go with that. Yeah, and I understand that.
But for what I took from marconversation is they're actually
getting grant money.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah they are.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah, there are reason today I can have these outrageous
saw paychecks for themselves.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
Well, and a lot of this comes in a form
of research money. You know. That's I think. You know, well,
our research efforts are crippled. What do you mean they're crippled, Well,
because you stopped federal grant money. Oh so you're telling
me the only way to do research at universities and
incorporations is with taxpayer money. So so, so we're funding
pharmaceuticals to develop the next anti retroviral, to develop the
next medicine, the next you know, erection medicine.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Or whatever it is. What what? What?

Speaker 5 (51:30):
What's going on there? You know that should be the
private sector, not not not the tax payer.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Exactly who benefits from these I mean corporations take this
information and make gookoo bucks off it.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean, but then the funny thing
is like, if you work for three AM, the guy
that invented the post it, that's a tens hundreds of
millions of dollar business. Now after all these years, he
didn't get anything from that. He worked for three AM
Minnesota Mining Manufacturing. It's their intellectual property because he was
employed by them. That's install that's reason. But I mean,
you know that's that. So they get the profit. But

(52:02):
you know, this research is funded by the government. These
universities get to keep the research in many cases, and
they can profit from it. They can license it and
make money off it. A lot of universities make money
off of patents and things they develop, and they make
a ton of money off residuals for that in royalties.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
So.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
President Trump said earlier today that he's touted a recent
deal between the US and NATO whereby European allies would
purchase weapons and send them to Ukraine as it fights Russia.
And he said, quote they're going to pay the United
States of America one hundred percent of the costs of
all military equipment, and much of it will go to Ukraine.
And quote Trump said, and the remarks at an artificial
intelligence conference in DC. I think that makes sense if

(52:37):
you're going to send it directly over there and not
defend yourself with it. You pay one hundred percent for sure?

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Well yeah, I mean paid full price.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
There's no discount, right, Yeah, no, no discount or something
like that, especially if we're not supporting that war, right,
I guess that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
But are we? I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
It's so confused.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
I mean, you know, and why would we support it anyway?
But you know, anyway, at the end, they would like
to rag on Trump about, you know, about Epstein files.
But one thing that Trump did definitely campaign on very hard,
much harder in the Epstein files is that he would
end the war on day one. But that was obviously
just hyperbole. But I would have hoped that maybe he'd
have some success after about five or six months. But
we're no better off today in that mess than we

(53:19):
were on January twentieth, and so the President's got a
lot of stuff on his plate, but hopefully he can
do something to make Putin back down.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
And I believe I believe that we did stop funding them,
didn't we?

Speaker 4 (53:29):
So NATO picked it up.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
Or no, no, no, we stopped funding and then we
also funding him again. We're sending patriot batteries. Trump's a
screed to send patrio batteries. So it's half half six
of this, half a dozen the other. It's just it's look,
I mean, Putin and Zelenski can't find enough Russian and
Ukrainians to die under their egos, and that's really sad.
And the Europeans are behind us, European Union, the NATO

(53:52):
countries in Europe are the ones fueling this conflict, you know,
sending arms over there, extending it, prolong it for a
country that doesn't have the resource to even fight this war.
If it wasn't for the wealth of Western Europeans and Americans,
Ukraine would have lost this war a long time ago.
Even though the Russian army is inept.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Yeah, absolutely, just about your numbers alone and just continues
to be relentless. They would they would have won by now, you're.

Speaker 5 (54:12):
Right, well, I mean most of the harm or the
damage they've inflicted in Russian forces since the first month,
first month they were responsed for. Since then, it's all
been weaponry and ammunition and resources supplied by the West.
And if they didn't have it, they wouldn't be able
to kill those Russians with it, and the Russians would
have run over them in a meat grinder. But here
we are. It started in February twenty twenty two. And

(54:33):
like I said, that night when I went live covering
that from Seapack that night I was down there in
Orlando and then I went live with two two o'clock
in the morning or something like that and one thirty
I think it was. And people are asking me in
my life dream, hey, hey, how long is this gonna last?
I'm like three to five years minimum, Like what yeah,
years a minute? You know, that's that's a minimum. This
thing could go on for years. What are you talking about?
I said, you have to understand what the purpose of

(54:54):
the conflict is. And anyway, so and that was before
the Russians. It proved how inept they were. I didn't
know that they would be foolish enough to split their
forces on multiple fronts and weaken it and have uncoordinated
attacks where their flanks were unprotected, leaving seams for the
Ukrainian to get in there and hit them from the side,
you know, and then and that just fall to their offensive.
The best example is attacking Kiev. They came straight down

(55:15):
from the north, which made sense, but then the folks
to the northeast weren't on the same vector, and they
create a scene and gap along the along the river.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
The river.

Speaker 5 (55:23):
So now it's just a very stupid operational plan that
the Russians had. Strategically not very bright, and tactically executions
very poor. And I criticized from day one, but I
had no idea that the Russian's going to be that
in apt. But I still predicted the same. We go
for three to five years of minium, and here we
are three and a half years later, and there's no
no chance it's gonna let up anytime soon.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
It's really sad, not at all. For sure, we got
a couple of minutes left, but there we go. Folks
will be right back after the top of the hour.
Stick around after these messages for people who care, for sure,

(56:18):
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Speaker 5 (56:34):
Break there, guys, Well, I got to say that once again.
I really got to get to Nashua meet Roger for
Gates City Monument. I just love that commercial.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Absolutely, speaking of rich people who can just travel the
country and see people. Jeff Bezos he's eyeing buying CNBC
in a bid to reshape his quote unquote media image.
The Amazon founder and owner of The Washington Post, Jeff
Bezos is weighing a possible acquisition of CNBC as the
business network prepared to spin off from Comcast into a
new publicly traded company versus a Verse in later this year.

(57:06):
Whatever the heck is going on here, Yeah, Jeff bezofs.
I guess he has to save his image by buying
a television station or news station, which is crappy anyway.
What's the investment here is? You just need it for
his own ego.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
I don't know, it's egotistico. He's embarrassed himself with his
marriage to lip Filler whatever her name is in Venice
and really irritated the Italians. So he's looking for some
redemption here. That's what it is. You know, when you've
got more money than than Jesus, You know, I suppose
you can do what you want. Elon Musk and Jeff Bezis. Yeah,
it's Look, I don't know what to say about this

(57:42):
Washington Post. The grand family sold it and it went downhill.
Not that it was great institution when he sold it.
It was a great institution one time, but it came
so highly politicized, and the same thing under bezis game
to be more politicized. They made an effort to pull
back from that recently, but the highly politicized staffed revolted
against Bezil, you know, just before the election. So I

(58:02):
think Vezo's just has a lot of time on his hands.
You know, he's busy charging us twice what we used
to be charged for books at Amazon, and doesn't bother
to even give us good selections DVDs anymore.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
So I guess he's gonna find something else do.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
At his time.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Are you buying DVDs?

Speaker 5 (58:16):
Of course I buy DVDs. Why wouldn't you buy DVDs?

Speaker 4 (58:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
I'd bring in you know, streaming and all that other stuff.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Oh yes, streaming, Yeah, my eighty five services. I have
to sign up for for everything. I used to be
able to get off of cable television, and you know,
and then that still gets socked with ridiculous commercials that
aren't timed to when the shows are produced to show
commercials but interrupt the middle of critical dialogue and events.
Someone's about to die and it just goes to, you know,
a viager commercial, or get all these commercials which they've

(58:47):
eliminated white folks.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Yeah, on streaming that a lot of times they're not
when a commercial should be in there. It's just like
the middle of a thing, It's like, come on now.
And then then they get locked.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
They get locked in a sequence where you know, you
might watch a show and there isn't one commerce, so
then get interrupted every seven and a half minutes for
commercials last four or five minutes. And you know, I
don't want to devote more than fifty minutes to watch,
you know, a forty five minute show. So yes, I
have DVDs and Blu Ray, and I do buy them
for shows that I care about or movies I care about,
and I can pop in The Big Bang Theory on

(59:17):
Blu Ray and watch it all the way through without
one commercial break. And I love it.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
That's how it should be right For Saudi Arabia becomes
top buyer of Russian fuel despite looming Trump tris on Moxicow.
The kingdom turns to Moscow for cheaper imports, has summer
energy demands sore, so Saudi Arabia turning to Russia.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
It's kind of odd, right, Yeah, the all the oil
coming out of the ground over there, and they're they're
getting it from Russia. Of course, the oil from over
there and bring it over here. When we pump all
oil and we send it to Europe and.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
We're not really getting anyone from Saudi Arabia. That's that's
going a year. For the most part, We're were producing
over nineteen million barrels of oil per day. Saudi Arabia
is currently eleven point four and Russia's eleven point two
million barrels per day. It's the top three oil producers
on the planet. Consumptions about twenty million barrels day, so.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Almost all they will. But we do exports some that oil.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
Produce here, and we do import some as a consequence
of that, that's true, But most of the stuff in
the Middle East is going to Japan, China, and Europe.
So if they cut, they choke off the Persian Gulf
oil price to go up. But we won't run on
oil because we produce enough for ourselves these days for
the most part. But you go back to nineteen seventy four,
seventy three, we're screwed. Go back nineteen seventy nine, we're screwed.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
Oh yeah, yep, oil and bargoes yep.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
And then just we hear in Nader under Obama, where
we produce I think less than five man barrels per
day or something like that. That's how bad things have gotten.
We were in real buying. There's so much of our
hard currency was being shipped to these these tyrannical states
around the world. Now we're not shipping money to support
these state sponsors of terror and who oppress their own people.
We just keep the money here so that our government
can oppress us, right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Yeah, right, So legislate more, right, and then of course
lorded over us in terms of you know, oh you
won't you won't receive this, you won't receive that, all
this special entry. Of course states, they they keep states
in line by holding money over the federal government. Does
even Republicans do it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
Did you see that Trump sacked twenty five percent of
the IRS yesterday?

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
I saw something. I didn't know how many it was,
and it was a lot of people.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
Yeah, it's a lot of people. I mean, they're in Biden.
They raised the staff total from like seventy nine thousand
to one hundred and I forget one hundred and three
thousand or something like that, and now it's going to
go back the other direction. So I don't know if
that's know, if that's I don't know. Well, I don't
know if that's good or bad. I mean, you know, historically,
when you call the RS and give you bad information
half the tiny eight percent of the time and you
have to wait forevery of the response. Will a reduction
staff be you have to wait longer, or will mean

(01:01:33):
there's less enforcement agents harassed taxpayers.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
I'm hoping that's what it is. But yeah, yeah, me too.
And at the same time, people that are that are
left behind or are actually skilled workers versus just you know,
randomly cutting people.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
Yeah, well that's kind of what happened to the State Department. Unfortunately,
they cut domestic staff. And you know, here's the theoretical
you could have a person who just came back from
say Morocco. Just making this up. There's a true story,
but this is the circumstance our Trump. Just give an example.
You have someone who's working in the in the embassy
in Morocco. They came back to take over an office
in DC. They literally improcessed, showed up at their desk,

(01:02:07):
and the order to cut the reduction force came by position,
not based on merit, not based on longevity, not based
on need, just based on the position.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
And that position that cuts.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
And now they're unemployed. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
So the daysically day one they got austed from their job.
I'm not laughing, but that's just said. You move them
all the way across the world and say here you go,
here's this new job, and then boom you're going.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Yeah, and that actually happened the State Department and of
course a ID everybody got fired. So I mean, there's
I don't know how you look at that one, but
but State Department just let a number of people go,
hundreds of people, and now the IRS has let to
put a bunch of people go. The the shake up
in DC is real. Hopefully it's for the better. I
would like to think it is. But I think there's
a bit of chaos going on, and now it was
just kind of disheartening.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I remember the COVID COVID era where you can get
hold of anybody in Congress because everybody's working out of
their house and they weren't taking calls, they weren't answering emails.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
So I like this version of it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Let's just downsize the executive branch and it makes it
harder for them to keep attacking people.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Sure, yeah, I mean the executive branch could be cut,
you know, drastically, I think. I mean, I mean, I
mean a lot of people that it's just dead weight,
or people that just are replicating services that are provided
in other departments or agencies. I mean, why we haven't
duplicated services two and three times sometimes or more.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Yeah, there's a lot of redundancies and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Government for sure, and nobody's ever responsible though it's always
the other department or the other agency. You know, it
wasn't us. They were doing that, not us.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Have you never seen that buck? They keep passing around
in DC and it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Never makes it to the Oval office to stop at
the President's desk, and if it does, it's very rarely
or it's kind of escorted out the back door.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Right, Yeah, it just keeps circulating, man, just keeps circulating.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
Well, some things are ironic, you know. And for decades
many of us wanted the elimination Department of Education, and
none of us really thought about limiting USCI. It's gone.
Department Education is on its way out. But it's gone.
So the AID is gone and energy on its way.
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
So where are we with the federal Department of Education
being out the door? I mean, is it going to
have to take Congress to get involved budget? Where were
we at with that last time?

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
I saw there's a court case, there's silling the Trump
mistrasses and he doesn't have the authority to eliminate because
Congress authorized it by legislation. Yeah, I thought the Department
Education was created whole cloth by Jimmy Carter, not by
education Congress.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
He had a trifecta government.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
It was all Democrat House, Democrats Senate, and a Democrat
executive and they passed the law and what nineteen seventy nine?

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
There was seventy nine, But I didn't know it was
a law. I thought he just created it. So yeah,
I mean, you know, by executive order we had Richard
Nixon creating the Environmental Protection Agency.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
That was a great order, which basically is in the
fact a law law, not only law enforcement, but at
the same time it's a legislative body in a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
Of ways, the rules, it's a it's a law unto itself,
which is violence in the Constitution.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
So basically, yeah, the fact though Congress didn't approve it,
but they started funding it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
Of course, well, Congress funds a lot of things. That
doesn't mean they're right, No, they funded Robert Maplethorpe.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
No, absolutely, Congress will just go along with it. And
of course that's another agency or department that they can
point to whenever they're not in power. Mind you as
being the problem. Right, you think about whoever's in power
in the White House. Somehow the executive branch always becomes
the problem for the other party. They always want to
call it out, always want to use it to fundraise,
But on inauguration day, whenever their person gets in there,

(01:05:34):
it's all of a sudden, no issue, we're fixing it.
Everything's good to go. Wait for another four years and
then we're going to be attacking them again.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Fair point.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
That kind of how it works. Right, So, what are
some things that we've not not jumped into thus far,
anything you guys want to talk about.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
Colonel Well, FBI ass were told, apparently to flag the
Epstein records any mention of Trump, Dick Durbin claims. He
says that FBI has designed to review the files in
the criminal casekenceps scene were instructed to flag any documents
that mentioned President Trump. Interesting when did this happen? I mean,
Trump's only been present for a few months and these

(01:06:11):
these files have been there four or five years. So
I'm a little provised by that. And as I said,
this pops out just a couple hours after the judges
won't release the grand jury testimony. Funny how all these
attacks this information that they clearly had, If it's real,
they've had forever, why do they hold it till now?
So people that pull this crap are just as guilty
or culpable in cover ups as if there's a cover up,

(01:06:32):
as anyone else, because they hold onto a nugget information
either they made it up, which is shameful, or they
had it it's true, and they hold until just the
right moment. And we could have known about this long
time ago. It's true, so I doubt the veracity of it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
No, yeah, it is funny. Had it been real, why
didn't you talk about it thirty minutes beforehand or days
or weeks beforehand. You waited till all of a sudden
to be like, oh, we can do this, and it's
not going to be verified by anybody, and if it is,
it's gonna be like selective verification. Why we know everything?

Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Come on?

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
And in fact, Dick Durbin's making a claim. He doesn't
he doesn't offer any evidence that this happened. He just
he wrote a letter. In the letter he says explained
until the FBI said, who made the decision to re
assign hundreds of New York Field Office personnel to the
march review Epstein related records? And why we're personal told
the flag records which President Trump was mentioned? How does
he know that? Where does he just made that claim?

(01:07:24):
So they're turning a non story into a story as
they tried to per smirch the character of Donald Trump.
It's an old story, just another day.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Right, And it's one of those things that's unfortunate that
the Republicans or the administration is not going to say
that there is Epstein files and there's a list and
all that, and I get it. We talked about in
the first hour. You know, you can't just release stuff
that's unfounded whatever. I understand that, but to say it's
it's not there. You know, Pambonni just said a couple
of weeks ago, it's on my desk for a review.

(01:07:52):
And then all of a sudden, Oh no, I didn't
really say it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
I said it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
I meant this, and it's like, we know exactly what
you meant, but all of a sudden, you don't want
her to be a list, so therefore there's no list.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
Just well, I mean, look, yeah, I know, I know,
but I mean I heard what she said, and I
didn't infer that she was telling me a client list.
I inferred that that the case fall was on her desk.
That's what I've inferred from that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Yeah. But QUES was about the list, though, and she
she answered, you know, it's almost Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Her answer was poor. She's she's had some missteps. But
you know, first, I find it hard to believe there
actually is a client list. And if there is a
client list, why is it not encrypted or in some
sort of code.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
I mean, you know, it's just like a word document,
a document.

Speaker 5 (01:08:33):
Bookies they write codes down for all the people who
are clients. You know, drug dealers do the same thing.
Why would a pedo or human trafficker and not do
something to protect themselves in that fashion. The whole thing,
all things, smacks of nonsense. I'm not buying this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
Again, as you mentioned earlier, just because someone appears in
this documentation doesn't mean and I pointed out you know,
Stephen Hawking, doesn't mean that they did anything unto work. Look,
everybody was glombing onto this clown because he was rich,
he was influential, and everyone their piece of the cake.
They wanted their fame, they wanted they wanted to be,
you know, put in contact with a certain person so
they can advance their career, advance their business or whatever.

(01:09:08):
So just be honest about it. It's it's ugly. The
guy was nasty. You once upon a time went to
his island to curry favor. And you went there and
you saw a bunch of teeny boppers back popping around,
and that was not your cup of tea. So you
politely went home after you failed to convince the guy
to help back your solar water pump project whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Yeah, right right, I get you. And of course, uh
you know somebody like this. You know, you go to
go to Washington, d C. Or any major city, there
are these power brokers that are there, especially in DC.
There's there's millions of them, and most of them are
full of it. They're trying to see they were some
staff or somewhere a long time ago, trying to sell
some sort of minute access that they may have. They
happen to know somebody socially, so they always slipping you

(01:09:47):
in in front of them, and it's like you never
really get anywhere. But it's a courtesy meeting. Sometimes the
money that you pay them is given to the person
who took the meeting. Anyway, it's kind of the ones
behind the door, behind the under the table type things
that goes on in DC. People overstay and overplay their hand.
But somebody who's worth hundreds of millions of dollars certainly
is a true power broker in one one sense or another,
just because they have a lot of money. I mean,

(01:10:07):
you you have access to people well, I mean they
can make your dreams come true instituteously. You know, if
you need like eight hundred thousand dollars seed money for
this brilliant idea that you have, and you've already invested
your life savings into it, and you just need to get.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
Over that hump. And you meet somebody like Epstein and
he coughs up a million bucks? Sure, why would you
go to Epstein Island to meet the guy?

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
I mean I've been invited. I've been invited to an
event and watching DC tomorrow, which is a pain that
means four hours of driving minimum, And I'm debating about
where they go because it could open some doors to
some influential people. It's a it's a by invite only event,
and so I'm seriously considering it. But I mean, you know,
I don't know these people. I mean, if I go there,
they're going to broadcast what they're doing. And if one
of the people involved does something wrong later on and

(01:10:47):
Mike guilty of doing something now, right, have to be
there that night? Give me?

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Sure? Sure? Yeah? And I've been in DC where people
you know, want to sit there and have these meetings
or you know, just discussions and you get introduced to
somebody and the next thing you know, it's like they
want to see how much do you know? Who? Do
you know? What you can who can you get me
in front of you know, all sorts of stuff, and
people whill offer up money, especially foreign sources. They'll offer
up money to try to get in front of people,
and you're like, you got to walk away from those things.

(01:11:12):
And they're all They're at bars, they are at restaurants
all throughout d C trying to look for people.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
So what they can't make their own appoyments or what's
going on?

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
No, I mean there's a lot of ways to try
to get get a hold of people. Because you think
about people in DC go to bars and restaurants and
they socialize. People eventually know who you are and who
you're associated with, and of course you have these power
brokers that want to try to access that. You know,
regardless of where you work or how legal or illegal
it is, it's inconsequential to them because it's up to
you to say no, I can't do that cause.

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
Of X y Z. You know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Yeah, when I've served at the White House, I mean
while while in the Army, I would get introduced to
people and be like, oh, Todd's at the White House,
and it's like, oh, everybody wants to talk to you.
And it's, like I explained, I'm in the White House
and Military Office. I'm not a political pointee. I don't
have access to to get you in front of anybody
outside of somebody I happen to know personally. But I'm
not going to put you in front of them for

(01:12:05):
any money at all. I may introduce you to them
that they happen to be at the bar or restaurant. Hey,
there's so and so. That's about it. I don't want
to be involved in any of that because you can
get rolled up pretty quickly. You're selling access or you're
trying to make money off of your position. Regardless of
your position is not political, it happens well. I mean,
so much of this is tied to titles and impression.

(01:12:26):
I mean, when I was the director of African Studies
at the US Army War College, everybody around the world
wanted me to come speak.

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
Now bear in mind that I was in uniform and
what I could say with circumspect. There's things I can't disclose.
Now that I'm no longer doing that, those calls don't
come nearly as often because I'm not the director of
studies at the Army War College. Now, if I started
my own think tank like the Heritage Foundation, had such
a big reputition like that, then they would be calling again.
But right now, I'm just an independent guy on my

(01:12:54):
own and it doesn't add the gravitas, the gravitas that
they're looking for for an event, even though the product
that we get today, if I was a guest speaker
would be so much more on point because I don't
have constraints anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Right, absolutely, But there are things that you're that you're
read off of now that you probably can't discuss.

Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
Oh yeah, there's I mean, the good news I suppose
that to be any older is I'll start forgetting all
the state secrets. I don't have to worry about them anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
Right, just be so old.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
You're like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
That was World War two guys years ago? Yeah, they
may make for an interesting book to write you down
the road and for those people who like that type
of things. But you know, I suppose, but give good
You speak of titles, you know, one of my titles
whenever I was at the White House mill was Vice
Presidential Communications Officer. Now people don't know what that means.

(01:13:43):
It sounds like it's sounds impressive.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Yeah, he's right there in the ear of the Vice
president on everything communication. Let's get in front of him,
and it's like, wait a minute, technical communication, completely different,
continuity to the government, contenty to the presidency, all this stuff,
and you start getting into the jargon. You're like, uh,
you're not the guy we thought you were. Like, no,
I'm not a staffer, I'm not appointee in any way,
and I'll be there whenever the next administration comes in
if I'm still a signed there.

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
Well, it's funny because people don't know about things, excuse me,
They assume all sorts of things about titles. So, for instance,
I was when I enlisted in the army. One of
the specialties offered to me, which I finally took, was
multi channel communications equipment operator. Oh yeah, Oh that sounds sexy.
That sounds like thirty one, Mike, sounds like so much

(01:14:29):
into that. Yeah, I mean, after about eight months of
doing that job, I was better than most people my battalion,
and you know, we could train chimpanzees to do it
at that stage, you know. But that's one thing, and
then the other one was, gosh, what was the other
one I was trying to think of here. Oh yeah,
So I had these detractors that I started attacking my
social media accounts and they claimed that I worked for

(01:14:50):
the CIA. And the basis for that was that they
had a copy from a web page at the Energy
in Africa convention in Denver, Colorado that I was invited
through two years in a row and I guest speaker
there and I provide him with a biography so people
knew I was, and the biography included, you know, my
roles working as chief of Office Security Cooperation. So these

(01:15:10):
people that know nothing about the CIA, know nothing about
what security is and what security cooperation is, took that
and then created a false narrative that I was as
a secret agent for the CIA, because see it's right
there in my title chief of Security Cooperation.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Yes, of course, yes, I've worked handed him with the
CIA on a regulars. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
You know, my my I have a passport. My alternate
name is Jason Bourde.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Yeah right, I'll watch you out now.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
But it's funny like that, you know, people put this
the CIA on some sort of like peril whatever. It's
like they're not James Bond for crying out loud. Let's
let's stop that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:50):
They have a handful of people who do things like that,
when I say half one, very few, right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
But most are former military, some of the direct action folks.

Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
Right. There aren't many of those people though, And most
of what the CI does is rather mundane, simple things.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
That's ironic. That's open open source. You to read between
the lines stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
Well, I mean, the World fact Book is compiled by
the CIA. Yeah, it's an open source stock And I
know because I wrote the military annexs for it for
the countries I covered. I'm an author in this in
the World fact Book and overseas.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
When you get all the links, read up on this
so you'll know what's what I'll be like, well, I
want to read up on the restaurants too. You know.

Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
Well that's that's lonely planet. That's not the world. But
I mean, it's it's you know, people they try to
make these things out because it's a Hollywood you know,
they really it's it's crazy. I mean, I remember, I
remember The Enemy of the State. That was a pretty
good movie, but they made out like like NSA has
armed agents who hunt people down in the streets of Washington, Yeah, Chase,

(01:16:49):
and they.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Could completely you know, I don't want to say I
was about to drop a a bad word, but they
can quickly get up and move out of the wherever
they're located and zip around the country, around the world,
world like in two seconds and they're there, you know,
up on keyboards and I got him.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
Come on, now, Hollywood really hyped us up, didn't they?

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Especially?

Speaker 5 (01:17:08):
Yeah, well, some of these things are true. I mean like,
for instance, in the UK, the Metropolitan Police can definitely
break into close circuit television cameras all over the city
of London and for follow criminals are out. They can
certainly do that. I mean that that's that's not the
un real possibility. But you know it's this, this what
people would attribute to governments is really something bizarre. And

(01:17:31):
that's why it makes it so much more entertaining for
me as an intelligence professional. When the nuclear the attack
of the nuclear sites and ARAM went down, be too
stealth bombers are headed to Guam. How do you know
that because they were picked up on radar? Well, then
they must not be stealth bombers or they want you
to know where they're going.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Yeah, oh I suppose Hello, they're not manifesting like you're
flying for Delta Airlines for crying out loud, come on exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:17:59):
They wanted to know they're going to Guam and like,
well they're gonna attack and they're gonna attack yourn from Guanam.
No they're not.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
They're not the wrong way to go. Sorry. Long.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
It's also so much.

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
Much longer flight. I mean, if anything, they've had to
go somewhere like they go to Diego Garcia, you know.
But but I mean, so that's happy. I'm like, I
wonder what that's all about. Meantime, they took off from
white Man and they're flying the other direction there. Yeah, no,
it's it's funny people, you know. Yeah, they're stealth bombers.
Oh they are, and you know where they're at. Okay,
all right, I guess they're not stealth mode. They must

(01:18:29):
not be in whisper mode.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
Right, Oh my goodness, that was what was a conspiracy
theory with melt Mel Gibson. What a great movie that
was that, Julia Roberts.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But it's funny, as you know, everybody
thinks that, oh the CIA is gonna be running around
throwing out their fliptops, which is a little identification that
people open up, you know, and then like I'm CIA,
and everybody's just gonna stop what they're doing and be like, sure,
I'm gonna just help you know, whatever you want to
be done. It's not gonna happen that way.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Come on now, they laughter.

Speaker 5 (01:19:01):
And then they also they, as I was getting on,
they a tribute activities aren't associated with an agency to
that agency, like for instance, you know the NSA running
around with Armed Security Secret Agency in the United States.
That's not what NSA does, not even remotely. And then
then then they the US Marshalls. The US Marshalls are
you know, hunting down drug dealers. No, they are transporting.
They are transporting prisoners and doing you know, fellon apprehension.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
That's what they do. Tomedy Jones, you know, come on, yeah,
that was great man. That was a good movie. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
I mean, that was a nice nice They took the
TV show and turned into a proper movie. But Tommy
Lee Jones, that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Was absolutely and he did it right the way he
chased him down. He's like, I don't care if you're
guilty or in ID they said you're guilty, you're a fugitive.
I'm going to arrest you. That's it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:42):
It doesn't matter if you're innercent your fututive. My job
is capture fugitives.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Bingo Yingo.

Speaker 5 (01:19:47):
That's a great movie.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
That was.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
That was That was, I mean, that's when Hollywood was
still making some.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Pretty good movies, you know, yeah, absolutely, you know. I
remember working with the CIA briefers, you know, and you know,
just you look like any old body, you know. It's
like this guy's CIA, you know, because you think CIA
is muscular, you know, like the James Vond type, you know, shaking,
not stirred, all this stuff. And this guy was just
one of the goofiest guys this could be. But smart

(01:20:10):
guy for sure, but definitely not a James Bond type
for sure. And that blows the myth out out the window.
You see some of those folks.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
You know, they's supposed to be a museum somewhere with
all these old like you know, the microfilm cameras and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
It's by museum.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Yeah, and if they had interesting trinkets. Back in the day,
there was a lot of interesting field work, I guess,
but you're right, a lot of it was, you know,
disguise yourself like an noterly person by changing your postor
to close you where things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Most of the stuff is intel work anyways, not direct
action stuff because you don't want to be caught, you know,
you just want to if you ever to do the job,
blend in and move on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
You got if you were telling somebody or something like that.
And I don't CIA does that or not, or FBI
probably does if they're doing field work investigations or something
on somebody. But usually I don't think they're just walking
in the streets and uh in disguise or anything. I
think it's like, you know, you might be sitting in
a motel room of the camera or something or audio
devices trying to capture some of their conversation, you know,

(01:21:09):
like please police work or something when they're trying to
capture gangs or something.

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
Sure Todd touched on two things that are very interesting
if anyone that gets a chance to do it. You've
got the Spy Museum in d C. Not too far
from it's not the MCI Center whatever it's called now,
the Verizon Center or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Yeah, Chinatown proper name, by the way, it's what it's called.

Speaker 5 (01:21:27):
Yeah, So that's there. It's a private foundation, and then
he mentioned an essay there's at a former restaurant or hotel,
uh just on the Baltimore Washington Parkway, just right next
to the National Security Agency. Is is that museum? And
that one is worth going to work with. The Spy
Museum in d C is tough because there's usually a queue,

(01:21:48):
especially in the summertime, for people getting in there, and
it's not cheap. That one outside of Fort Meade is
interesting because they have the Venona Project, which was declassified.
For those not familiar with the nota project, that is
the intercepts and the information collected on the Rosenbergs. Yeah,
where trees and is uh and and betrayed this country.
And to this day their children say that they were escapegoats.

(01:22:08):
And now we have we have we have them caught
red handed. For decades, US government had to put up
with a nonsense that we executed the people wrongly. It
was a false, false conviction. Now they were guilty as sin.
They were, and they and the Venona Project, all this
stuff is declassified and it's pretty cool to go see it.
You can actually see the stuff that was involved in
what they did, how they betrayed this nation. Helping the

(01:22:29):
nuclear bomb, the hydrogen bomb get to the Soviets, right,
and both were were were put to death by the US. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
How many people for treason that we know of has
been put to death for that? And since we're talking
about Obama and Trees, Yeah, not many, very few. But
what we have really been called found guilty, especially in
a modern court of law in the US, not many as.

Speaker 5 (01:22:50):
Well, right, No, not many? I mean. And and so
I was asking my program today, what's the worst case
of treeson ever? And without es saying, I said Benedict Arnald, Yeah,
bened At Darnald, my view is the worst case of
trees in this country's history. I mean, he was one
of the most trusted generals and he was he was
he was angry because he was being passed over and
not giving the attention he felt he was entitled to.
It was rather arrogant, and he betrayed the station and

(01:23:12):
nearly cost us our liberty. And so benedicte Arnold, I
think is the worst betrayal ever.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Yeah, he didn't betray us for high ideas. He did
it for ego and money and status.

Speaker 5 (01:23:22):
Right. Yes, he became part of that too, by the
way he became. Yes, she egged him on, became a
general in the British Force. I think she was British
if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
I believes the Tory for.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Sure, Yeah, being self serving, but I believe it bit
him in the hind quarters at the end because the
British didn't want anything to do with them either.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
He was ostracized when he went to London right and lived.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Yeah, they were like, yeah, we got no use for you.
You you turned goat on them to us.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
You know. The only thing we honor about him is
his leg that he lost, right.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
Well, it's a shame because Bennette Arnold was a key proponent,
a key player in many early battles that they were
necessary for our independence. Just to betray everyone and that
that's what was so shocking about it. But yeah, I mean,
you know, his name goes down infamy, you know, calling
people Benedict Arnald.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
You know we still say that today.

Speaker 5 (01:24:06):
For traders, you Benedict Darnold exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
It's like, no, I just disagreed with you.

Speaker 5 (01:24:11):
You yeah, no, seriously, I mean that's that's the lasting
legacy right there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:17):
Yeah, right for and fifty years man.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Yep, yep, folks, you're listening to common sense conservatives right
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(01:24:42):
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Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
For sure.

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
I know we've we've got trade deal's glory now the
deadline is August.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
First.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
We've got one with Indonesia, nineteen percent tariffs on Indonesia.
They're happy with that, well happy as it can be.
Japan got theirs lowered from twenty five to fifteen percent,
and the quotas on US automobiles has been lifted, although
fifty years of quotas has done the damage. So I
don't know how many American cars will be bought there now,
but now there aren't quotas, and that's really good news
for the US. So fifteen percent of Japan, So Indonesia Japan,

(01:25:27):
I don't forget the Indua had done yet, We've got
the UK done, We've got several others. So they're coming,
and you know, it's it's happening. A lot of people
not really paying attention what is happening, But.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
You think about what is a couple of months ago
he did the big Tarff thing and announced that on
the South Lawn. People were upping arms about it, and
all of a sudden all these countries carred to come
to the table. Click click click, deal deal, deal deal.
And now all of a sudden, the left, especially the media,
they have nothing to say on that. So now they
have to figure out something else to go after them on. Right, Yeah, excittly,
but they're losers for sure. We've got a doubt the

(01:25:59):
news media and our country by and large.

Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
Right now they're trying to defend bite I mean Obama.

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
Yeah, oh well, of course, I mean I mean here's
a guy's probably gonna you know, I don't know that
he's gonna go to jail or anything like that, but
a lot of stuff is probably gonna come out, and
they're gonna have to contort themselves to defend this guy.
For sure, I dare say he'll probably never see the
inside of a court room. If anybody does, it's see
an inside of a court room or jail cell. It'll
be a low level, mid level lackey that'll just get

(01:26:26):
a slap on the wrist if anything ever happens. I
don't think anything's gonna come of it, for sure, but
we'll talk about it for the next few weeks or
months whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Well there might be you know, some people can call
me and I forget his name now, but he you know,
lower than Obama.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
They might, for sure, they may they may have to
give up a security cleanch to the rest of their
life or something. But probably nothing's ever really going to
come out of any of this.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Arnold that just high level people.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
High level people in America especially rarely ever go down
unless it's like on full display, where you know, we
have to do something, But our courts rarely ever do
something to them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
That that is actually the expectation of the American people there.
They've had so much people like Hillary with washing or
servers and all this other crap, you know, wiping their
servers and uh never had never be held accountable for it.
And it seems like they just get away with whatever
they get away with. You know, fifty friends that committed
suicide in a short period of time and all.

Speaker 5 (01:27:23):
You know, it's just well, I mean, you've also got
other people like pathological liars, like like Adam Schiff who
now we find was cheating, cheating on a home loan
and he'll get a slap on the wrist. We got
Nancy Pelosi who's doing insider trading for the visa contract,
not putting legislation through. You know, it's the list is
endless to these people. It's really it's really unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
So said absolutely, and usually, like I said, if it's
anybody that ever goes down, it's a low level person
plead out on something or whatever because they don't have
the money to fight it in court. And of course
there's no guarantee of a pardon for most of those people,
so it's a low level plead out and then that's it.
And we move on. But what what will happen is
people will fundraise off of this for the next several months,
I mean, going into the midterms, especially this next year.

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That's what this is all about.

Speaker 5 (01:28:09):
That's what this is all about.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
They need something to fundraise off of, for sure. And
I've already been getting text I mean, well, I don't
think they've ever stopped months and months, you know, Republicans
sending me all kinds of stuff. You know, have you
seen the latest news going after Obama? Fundraise? Here you go,
click this link, tell us what you ignore immediately. Yeah,
And it's always like some survey and it's always like
but if you click on the survey, they capture that

(01:28:32):
information that it's a real phone number. Fill out your information.
Is this you verify, donate five bucks, donate twenty bucks whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Can't submit the survey until you donate the money, and right, yeah, absolutely,
jd Vance is reaching out to you, Todd, and you
know it's sad you haven't answered any of our surveys yet.
And then jd Vance is belying on you to answer
this survey.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Yeah, relying he needs your help or they do these uh,
these these fake committees. It's like I want you on
my advisory committee. Submit twenty dollars today, You'll be on
a special advisory committee. No, the advisory committee is to
to get you to spend more money down the road. Hey,
I gave you that that little plastic card that says
special advisor. You're going to be a gold advisor next
or something like that. You know, platinum along right, the

(01:29:16):
platinum levels next. You know, we really value your advice people,
we value your money.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
So you've been down this road before, have you?

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
I know exactly how it is. I mean no, I
don't don't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Ever been past first base on this, so I don't know,
but I would directly. But I'm going no, no, I'm
not playing this nonsense with you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
I've donated directly to some organizations and some candidates in
the past, and I will in the future if I
like it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
But it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
But if it's an establishment candidate, generally, I'm going to
be weary of throwing money at especially they've been in
office for decades and really have done nothing. I'm not
going to throw money at you.

Speaker 5 (01:29:50):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
A lot of it's just a party itself, trying to
raise money for the party, isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
It for sure, and that's what the that's what really
the parties are there to raise money for different things
like that, you know, not directly raise money for candidates,
but raise money for all the candidates.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Yeah, well they bringing in the party then dispersed as
they feel fit and all that right for sure?

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
Yeah, yeah, nowadays, I mean that the people that they
get they recruit to run as their candidates and their
standard bears. You know, some of the most despising people
some of them and a lot of them have never
done much in their life except, you know, play play
at politics in their local area, so they build a
name and move up. You know, they don't really go
out and serve their country, not really, not in harm's

(01:30:29):
way for sure, you know. So they play the game
to maneuver upwards. And of course you get the establishment
that's like, oh that that's a lot of experience. You know,
we need that type person in public office. It's like
they've never done anything outside of politics. That's not real
experience that you need making passing legislation or debate and
legislation on things that affect everybody's life. And they have
no real world experience. Those are the wrong people.

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
That's why we like like Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
He was an outsider, he wasn't a politician. He's kind
of act a little bit more like a politician nowadays,
but he's not really a politician.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
But you see those politicians know how to pivot and
jump on those coattails. It's like, oh, we want to
ride that again.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
They're engineering politicians.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
They know every.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
Angle absolutely, and then they'll play that to the end.
And if JD is the nominee next go around, they're
going to jump on his coattails just the same for sure.
And I'm not saying JD shouldn't be the next president.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying he's a
bad vice president, but I'm saying it's the way these
people operate. You can never trust who they are for
real and what they really support.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Everybody wanted to be in Trump's twenty sixteen administration forty five.
They wanted to be there, but they weren't for Trump.
They weren't for the United States. They were there for
personal reasons. They were there to be their defeat Trump,
or they were there to build off from Trump, but
they weren't there to support Trump. They weren't there to
support America first, and we saw that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
Yeah, And well you see all the people who were
at his most recent inauguration at the Capitol right, it's
much smaller venue doing it in the rotunda. Who set
behind him? All the tech billionaires who've been against him
since the day he wrote down that escalator in twenty fifteen.
But all of a sudden, who had the prominent positions
they did because they have a lot to gain and
a lot to lose.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Well, you know, one of the things I always feel
a little concerned about. I know Reagan was this way too,
but it's technology. And when you see a president pushing
technology like here, somewhere here Trump made a post President
Trump at AI summit America in the country that started
the AI race and will win it? I mean, should

(01:32:29):
they really be pushing on all this time? I know
a lot of corporations are pushing very hard, and here's
Trump right there with them on it. Do you think
he should be pushing? I mean, have you had any
real experience with AI? And do you really trust it?

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
Sh They gotta hear us, John, they will hear us.
Play with you, John, There's a drone behind you. There's
a drone behind you. Don't turn around.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Yeah, I can't hear the whisper quiet black Hall helicopter
hovering here on the second floor.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
I think I think AI f used properly, and I
think the Colonel will probably agree. Is if you use
it to do things that takes human beings a long
time to do, like say right code something like that,
that that's fine, but we have to be responsible with it.
Don't let it just take over every aspect of your
life and just run things. You need a human being
there to make those, you know, right and wrong decisions
if you especially when it comes down to a moral decision.

(01:33:17):
You know, we're talking about creating robots that can go
out and do law enforcement and can shoot and kill people.
We're talking about that now. I mean, this is dangerous.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
This is dangerous happening today. Yeah, I think it's dangerous too,
and I'm really concerned about.

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
It because it's and I think it's analogy to begin with.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
The technology may may not be there now with with
with regards to robotics to be like say robocot, but
we'll get to that point one way or another that
there's gonna be some sort of drone that's going to
be out making decisions on the street, and at some
point they're gonna be YEA autonomous and at some point
they're gonna they're gonna arm them, and it's it's yeah,
it's very dangerous.

Speaker 5 (01:33:55):
Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
I use AI.

Speaker 5 (01:34:00):
I us very specific purposes. Primarily I use it to
generate thumbnails from my content because I'm not an artist.
I have no artistic skills, but I have ideas, and
I can dream up an idea what I want to
look like, and I can put that into an AI
machine like Gemini or chetch Ept. But Gemini is eem
better and the product that comes out most times is
pretty much what I want it to be. But they

(01:34:20):
want you to pay tons of money if you want
to have more tools, and sometimes they make mistakes intentionally
so that you want to go subscribe. Like I made
an image of someone sitting in a palatial house in
Santin with a typewriter on the screen or a laptop,
and on the screen it said something I wanted to say,
and he's smiling, and they put a golf club to
show he's rich. But they put two club heads on

(01:34:40):
the golf club, so each end has a head on it.
So hey, I did that. Yeah, so there's but I mean,
you know, and I did another one where I was
trying to convey Obama and Biden conspiring against Trump, and
then Trump's in Butler, He's standing up on stage and
he's got his crowd out there in Butler, Pennsylvania. And
then the ghost of Epstein is floating over tru Up
And that actually came out pretty well. And I also

(01:35:02):
use it to generate music. I've got my own I
have my own record label. It's DJ Silver Eagle. Now
that's not a joke, folks, it's true DJ Silver Eagle,
and I've on twenty plus platforms. I've a label distributor,
and they distribute my music on Spotify and Amazon for
Sale and iTunes and Apple Music, Weezer in all these places,

(01:35:24):
and I've got a growing audience over there from AI.

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
I use one of the AI generators.

Speaker 5 (01:35:29):
I pay for the service, so I have the rights
to the music. Right put it. I picked the genre,
whether it's rap, hip hop, country, pop, synthesizer, new way right,
I picked the genre. I picked who's going to do
the vocals, and then like I'm a big fan of
the saxophone. So sometimes if it's the right kind of lyrics,
I'll sack solo in there, so that comes in and
then I give it some keywords and phrases and boom

(01:35:50):
and a mend it or so it spits out a
pretty incredible song. It's been pretty good so far. I've
had some really good songs that have come out of it,
and so I do use artificial intelligence for things like them. Frankly,
I got to tell you, and we're talking about letting
artificial intelligence be autonomous and be self thinking. I'm way
against that because I'm seeing how how good artificial intelligence
is at these early stages at producing music and lyrics

(01:36:13):
that make sense. Like for a wark the other night,
I didn't give it much information. I just gave a
few comments, and I said, I want to do a
song about mosquitoes because it's summertime in the mosquitoes. There's
been a lot of rain, and South Africans are experiencing
winter and they've they've got strange winter where they've got mosquitoes. Anyway,
so I put it. I put it in their mosquitos,
and I put the genre and everything, and I put

(01:36:34):
a few phrase about how they're biting and you know this,
that and the other, and next time I know it's
just incredible comes out the flying vampires who suck you
dry and it called it Skeeter season is that it's
amazing what it can do. And I just pretty frightened
when you think about giving that kind of power to
let it make decisions autonomously for law enforcement or for
military and it's Skynet And no, thanks, I don't need that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
No, yeah, I agree with you, And of course John
would agree. We don't want artificial intelligence driving our trucks. Right, well,
here are portuning our trucks out there.

Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
There's a lot of issues about that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
And I did hear Secretary Duffy say when he was
sworn in that he was going to the United States
of America needs to leave when it comes to autonomous vehicles.
And one of my issues about the trucking industry going
autonomous is the FMC is there. The United States Department
of Transporation has faulted the American truck drivers, the human
truck drivers oft the yours like not giving them enough

(01:37:29):
parking spaces, requiring them to shut down after certain hours
and stuff, but never allowing them a parking space. And
then they're getting fined on the side of the road
because a parked and rest areas apart except ramps and
off ramps. And they're make believe in parking spaces because
they can't do anything else.

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
They got nowhere to go.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
And if they go to a municipality or a town
or a city and they park at Walmarts, Walmarts now
is booting them or having them boot with towing companies
because the cities are finding Walmart for having big trucks
in RV overnight parking. So, I mean there's this attack
on human drivers.

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
They they they foult what you do.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
They create our the service rules, so you can't you
can't you can't do anything you need to do. Then
they turn around and, uh, they don't create the parking
you need. It's all these things that they put on you.
Then they create the eled so force you'd have to
use the our reservice rules according to how they tell
you to use it. So now you're you're got the
screws turned to you some more. So anyway, now they

(01:38:25):
turn around and say, but we have a solution, We're
going with autonomous trust is crap. That's not how you
treat the American.

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
People's governments create the problem and they say, well, we
got the solution, though, right, we don't allow governments to
try to solve the problem to start with.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Right, we are the people. They're supposed to serve us,
not corporations. They're supposed to serve us, not artificial intelligence.
And that's not what they're doing. And I fault Trump
for that too. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:38:52):
I like Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
I like a lot of what Trump's doing. I'm ninety
nine there with Trump, but when it comes to technologies,
I think he's on the wrong path. Pave the way
for the American people first, not corporations and not technology.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Right. Do you think a lot of that has to
do with the fact that he's older and don't don't
really understand a lot of the technology that we have nowadays.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
No, I think it has a lot to do with
the fact that there's a future in technology for economy.
The World Economic Forum has pushed it with dubbed that
we're in the fourth Industrial Revolution, that is technology. Everything
they push in government is for technology. Where there's the
telematics devices of various types. You in your car don't
realize how well tracked you are you don't realize your

(01:39:32):
car is so unaffordable right now. And they said that
in the twenty twenty five plan, is that there will
come a time when people can't afford to buy cars
anymore because they're putting so much technology in there that
the technology makes it too expensive to drive. And if
you look at cars today, I got twenty ten, Dodge
Ram get sixteen miles per gallon eighteen or or sol
ry around there, it's not much more than what the

(01:39:54):
Dodge Ram would have got in nineteen eighty five. You
dig with all this technology begetting these buoq miles per
gallon and stuff. Right, it's really not made much of
a difference to warrant the cost of the car, it doesn't,
but the technology because of the passage, and yeah, all
the cost of building these cars now with the technology
is incredible, so they're outbidding us. And quite frankly, people's

(01:40:19):
wages aren't keeping up with inflation, so there's a gap growing.
So people are being faulted in the United States of
America because of text, partly because of technology, and another
part because of poor governance. They don't put Americans first.
They don't put people first. They put corporations first, and
they put the technology that corporations are creating first, trying
to force an economy on us, and they're weeding us out.

(01:40:42):
There's no future for the American people. And this is
the problem with gen Z. People like to make fun
of the younger generation. But the fact of the matter
is is they don't have a future and they know it.
They don't have hope and they know it. And this
is why they're shutting down.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
And they'll tell you that, right And you go talk
to let me talk about what made the country great
and all this stuff, you talk about patriotism and all
this stuff to the younger generations, and not everybody, of course,
but there's many of them, like you said that that
just don't understand it, don't get it. And of course
maybe they're not getting taught history, the Civics and other
things in school. And of course the mom and dads

(01:41:16):
are just saying, here, here's the device that that'll maybe
sit you. I don't want to hear you. And a
lot of the parents nowadays have been raised with technology
as well, so for them it's like they parent through
technology and kids are being raised through technology, and there's
no real human interaction with morals and values and things
that are that actually, you know, raise a person if you.

Speaker 4 (01:41:35):
Will, there is a loss there.

Speaker 5 (01:41:38):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
I think Chris By, both of you guys might have
experienced this coming up through the years. Is we were
told when we were in high school, coming out of
high school, technology is the way to go. They're going
to need software developers, they're gonna need designers, they're gonna
need website builders, they're going to need all these things
involved in technology. And these people win't got educations in
this stuff. And now they're simply making forty grand a year.
It's supposed to be these big paying jobs that turn

(01:42:00):
did nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you that there was no mentioned
a website designed when I graduated high school. There was
no internet so to speak up back then. But I
get your point. DARPA was at the DARPA neet was around,
but most people had no access to that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:13):
When we were Yeah, when we were in high school,
was they messed offs?

Speaker 5 (01:42:16):
Yeah, well that was relatively That was relatively new too.
You know, that came out in nineteen eighty one, so
it wasn't it wasn't all that heading around.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
I know when I was in high school, they had
these computers at the back of a class and they said, yeah,
they're back there. We got a few of them. If
nobody's on one, jump on them. We'd like you to
teach yourselves a little bit about them, get familiar with them.
And I'll remember is reading from a book and trying
to type in what it said to type in and
getting syntax here, syntax here, sintax. This is nonsense. This
is never going anywhere. There was no future in this crap.

(01:42:45):
I'm just gonna go drive trucks, be a mechanic. Do
you know hands on stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:42:49):
Well, when I was in high school, we didn't have computers.
But my senior year they got some Commo or computers
which they put in a computer room, a small room
four and it was a it was a common or
CBMs and PET PET. PET was meant Personal Electronics Transfer
and CBM was common Business Machine. And they had them
in the room and I had half a day of

(01:43:11):
study hall essentially for part of the year because I
had taken most of my classes. I need to graduate,
So I would go there and you had to load
the operating system up with a cassette tape. You took
a tape, you put it in, you played it tape,
and it loaded the instructions for the computer to run.
Because it had no storage. There was no hard drive,
but I've seen as a hard drive at that time.
So I used to play a game called Santa Paravia

(01:43:34):
and that was That was mintroduction computers, and I felled
local computers in high school and then yeah, I never
had a computer again until I got out of the
army and went back to college in nineteen eighty seven,
up on IBM PS two.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
Yeah, we had a hard drive Apple two's middle school
computer class, and you know, you'd learn a few little things. Actually,
my next door neighbor at the time, he's passed away
and his wife passed away now and actually his son's
passed away. For crod oflne Wow grew up. You know,
I grew up right next to my computer tea. So
I used to go down there as a kid and
play on some of the computers he had in the basement.
And we got a Commodore sixty four. Played an Oregon

(01:44:06):
Trail a lot in middle school. That was fun. Dying
of whatever whatever disease you would die of, you know,
DYSENTERI or usually.

Speaker 5 (01:44:14):
But you know, you got it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
Had a Commodo sixty four. Didn't have a computer until
I was well into the Army personal computer anyway, laptops
that I would always use what we had in the office,
you know, to do counseling statements or you know, borrow
from somebody. But you know, it wasn't until the Army
whenever they had these big brick laptops that I that
I finally got a hold of something. Well.

Speaker 5 (01:44:33):
I came back in the Army in eighty nine, and
then in nineteen ninety we had WYSE PCs from why
is a Chinese American who started that company, wy s E.
And then we got software packages for the IBM compatible
computers to shut up and the Army purchased a software
suite the early days of you know, like we would
have spreadsheets and weren't processors and database and it was

(01:44:54):
called Enable and it worked so poorly we used to
call it disable.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
Disabled your troubleshooting the entire time you're trying to use it.

Speaker 5 (01:45:03):
Yeah, it just didn't work very well. So we had
it was all you know, we had used function keys
to do certain things, so we had Enable and then
we had multim eight was the was the spreadsheet It
wasn't And then remember the head lotus one two three
was a different and now it's all excellery body use excel.
But so word perfect was also out at that time,
and we had Harvard Graphics was the graphics thing. Yeah,
it's just amazing that back in those days. I remember

(01:45:23):
the the PC games back in those days were where
in the world is Carmen said, Diego Minesweeper Solid Time
Sweeper and then missed. That was one of the dumbest
games ever. Yeah, Balance of Power, Yeah, that's that was
That was a time. That was an exciting time. And
every time you turned around, we went from eighty eighty
six to two eighty six to three eighty six to
forty six to a pentium and you know, and and

(01:45:46):
hard drives would grow exponentially. That computer that I told
you about about in college was an IBM PS two
no hard drive, two slots for three and a half
inch floppies. I was a lieutenant at Fort with Chuka
and I think making like a thousand hours a month
maybe is what I was making before taxes, maybe eleven hundred.
So I was a Fort Chuka, and I got tired

(01:46:07):
of loading floppy dis to load my operating system in
my PS two. So I went into used to get
those computer shopper magazines and had all the ads in it,
and I found hard drives International Tempe Arizona.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
I ordered a.

Speaker 5 (01:46:19):
Twenty megabyte twenty megabyte HOP drive for three hundred and
nineteen dollars and it came to me from Tampa the
next day. I installed it and I had a hard
drive for the first time and loaded the operating system
in there instead of on the floppy. Yeah, and it's
just it's crazy. And now I have a four terabyte

(01:46:40):
solid state drive right here that I paid like one
hundred bucks for four terabytes.

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
It's this size.

Speaker 5 (01:46:45):
The listing audience can't see this, but you guys can
see it. I mean that's like a business card size
or like one of those one of those tiles they
have for you know, locating your your iPhone. It's like
that size four terabytes. And I paid three hundred and
eighteen dollars for twenty megabytes.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:47:00):
Microsoft DOS couldn't even recognize twenty megabytes. The threshold was
ten megabytes, so I had to partition that drive into
two separate drives, so I had to C and D drive.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Wow, I mean nowadays, I mean it's so user friendly.
You know, click click, click, and you're good to go.
You do anything you want to. I mean, it's it's truly.

Speaker 5 (01:47:20):
Plug and play now. It wasn't for a long time. Yeah,
you used to have to go in the computers and
change the jumpers and switch the jumpers.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
Oh gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:47:27):
Hey, but if you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Want, if you want to experience the old day, just
load up a Linux system operating system and play with
some uh downloads there. It'll be like the old days
when you had to know a little bit of writing
and coding and whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
Right, Yeah, you know how to do the commands and
all that. The function.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
Yeah, that's what it is. Terminal and you gotta you
gotta put in all the commands and stuff. And it's
not the same as Microsoft or Apple.

Speaker 4 (01:47:50):
You know, you gotta.

Speaker 5 (01:47:50):
But now you can. One thing you can use, and
you talk about this AI is you can go to
some of these AI machines and type in directions to
create a program to run a program system for basic stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
And there are some pretty good uses with AI. You're right, uh,
but it won't write a whole program. You got to
know some of what you're doing, but to write sections.

Speaker 5 (01:48:09):
For you, right, And that's why I said, ale to
do a simple basic purpose. Not going to create. You know,
you're not gonna make the next Doom game for you.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
You're not going to make the next YouTube service.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
But no, it's got some it's got some good uses
and if you're if you're knowledgeable in that, it'll help
you along if you want to do some writing. I
recently started playing a little bit with that, and it
doesn't do the best writing for me. I still have
to think what it gives me, you know, build me
kind of a body I can work with and work
around it. I did some of the images like you
were talking about, Chris, and yeah, some of it was sloppy,
and some of them came out perfect, and you got

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these frustrating things like I, what did I tell you?
It wasn't It wasn't given me on one of the
thirteen stars, like the seventeen seventy sixty.

Speaker 5 (01:48:47):
Well some of those sites, some of those sites intentionally
won't do certain things.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
No, like yeah, I had to I had to tell
this just forget symmetry, because it gave me fourteen stars,
give me sixteenth start even give me fifteen stars. It
wouldn't give me thirty stars in a circle. And I'm like,
only I give it the order forget symmetry, give me thirty,
and they gave it to me. I'm like, okay, So
you kind of got to figure out what to say
to things. But one of the things I noticed has
got a little disclaimer there that not all information may

(01:49:14):
be accurate, So if you're all searching through it, and
what I've noticed is, so I do some of the
chat with it, and I've noticed that it's only pulling
information off the Internet. So if you got people like
like say Biden administration when all this stuff was coming
out on all this false information and things like that,
that's what it's gonna pull and that's the information it's
going to deliver to you. It's right, it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:49:35):
And that is a problem because the information isn't that
garbage in, garbage out.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
That's amazing problem with this and YouTube and we're about
to run up on the end of the show here,
but YouTube with all those AI commercials, so and it's
so obvious that it's AI and it's the voice is
a little awe, and it's usually the same voice used
on multiple characters or whatever. But the picture is basically
a real person, you know, but they just kind of
change the voice if you will. So like you know,

(01:50:00):
say one of the Doctor Drew as an example, they
use his face a lot and it's like his voice,
but it's just a little off. It's not really his voice.
It's AI generated and they're trying to sell you all
kinds of stuff as examples.

Speaker 5 (01:50:11):
Well, I mean, most of the videos I see Joe
Biden's voice is a little bit off. You're trying to
tell me he's AI.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
Very well, Joe, is it really Joe Biden?

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
Music?

Speaker 3 (01:50:23):
The conspiracy theory, Like, look at this guy, he's like
half a foot taller than Joe Biden. He's not the
real Joe Biden. It's like, really they would have a
look like be a half a foot taller. I don't
think that's how they would do that. They're not that stupid,
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, he does have some uses there, Chris,
And it could be fun to play with if you
got the time. It can be entertaining, But yeah, I
don't know how I feel about the future with Ai.
I know there was a lady my robot life on
TikTok I found and they bought a robot for like
twenty almost twenty two thousand dollars that they sell for
and that comes without the hands. If you want the hands,

(01:50:57):
you got to spend another ninety five hundred. This is
the person they got up to like two hundred grand
and stuff, and she's sitting there talking about well, he's
warming up.

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
All right, folks, we'll be back next week seven to
ninety so right here, W said fifty nine and ninety
five point three f M. Until then, take care, God
bless