The Common Sense Conservatives

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters, every Wednesday
evening from seven to eight pm right here on WSMN
fifteen ninety AM, WUSMN ninety five point three FM, and
streaming live on WUSMN GOT Live making sense of the
inverted reality we are subject to you every day, the

(00:24):
common Sense Conservatives like here to help bring you back
to reality. Now your host Chris Wyatt, Todd McKinley, and
John govern All.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Right, hey, folks, this is It's Wednesday night. It is
the Common Sense Conservatives right here on WSMN fifteen ninety
AM and ninety five point three FM, joined by my
co host, Colonel Chris White and Central Pa and John Grovener,
who has a little night fever there, Saturday night fever. Hey,
what's up?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
What's what's going on there? I mean it looks like nighttime.
Is there like a storm overhead? I mean it's it's honest,
it should be right and sunny.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
It's raining pretty good here in Nasal New Answer. Wow,
if nobody's stuck to everybody here in Nashvie, New Sure's
and stuck her head out the door yet Yep, it's
rain and bring your umbrella.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, be careful out there as well for folks. Wow,
it is dark.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, it's it's been building up for a while. We've
had a lot of thunder and lightning. So we've got
your warning. I manage you get this post spot right
out here in front by the studio this time too.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh that's good.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
What an amazing achievement because it's hard to do usually
this time of day.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh well, you won't get us wet running out of there, hopefully.
Colonel When do you go off and off to the
wild blue yonder over overseas and cover the Women's Rugby
World Cup?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Is that what it is? It is? Indeed, I'm leaving
Sunday and oh well we'll be heading out Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
So excellent. So here here's the story I want to
lead with. This is kind of funny. It's a This
is a Fox headline. By the way, First Lady Melania
Trump puts Hunter Biden on one billion dollar notice over
false defamatory Epstein comments, and it says exclusive First Lady
Milania Trump is putting Hunter body on a one billion
dollar notice over what she claims are false amatory disparaging

(02:01):
and inflammatory statements in quote made about her, demanding he
immediately remove and retract the content and issue in apology
or face legal acts in Fox News Digital has reported, Uh,
I guess Hunter Biden is going after the first lady,
alleging that she has ties in the and the Trump
family has ties with Epstein and all this stuff. And

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of course he can't produce any documentation like he says
he does says that he has.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Can you imagine being insulted by Hunter Biden? That's that's
just like you know, that's like that's like a mosquito
landing on the back of an elephant. How insignificant is he?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Right? Yeah, it's just so funny. It's like you got
out of trouble because your daddy had to pardon you, basically,
and now you're gonna sit here and throw stones at
Milani and Trump of all people, somebody who is beyond
all of the other nonsense that maybe her husband may
made me really included it. She has nothing to do
with it. I mean, where are you coming from here?

(02:57):
My friend?

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah? This is the Hunter is really a disaster of
all sorts. I mean, I don't you know, it's I
can't blame his mother because his father killed her. I
mean she died in traffic accent.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Sorry right, oh. According to Tulsa Gaberi, Clapper allegedly pushed
to compromise normal steps to Rush twenty seventeen ICA despite
concerns from NSA director. Former Director of National Intellis Jam
Clapper allegedly directed officials to quote compromise normal procedures to
Rush politicized twenty seventeen intelligence community assessment, despite concerns from

(03:32):
then Director of National Security Agency Mike Rodgers, who allegedly
said his team did not have enough time to review
the intelligence to be absolutely confident that Russia was involved
in the twenty sixteen election. It seems to me that
some of this stuff with regards to the Russia gate
has been just either made up or exaggerated. The influence

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that the Russia Russians actually had during the twenty sixteen election.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
It was all fabricated. The intelligence commute is meant across
the board. In a coordinated intelligence article for the Front Office,
Executive Office concluded that there was no Russian interference and
what little information they found showed was negligible. As I've said,
a from the beginning to the five thousand suckers who
you know actually looked at and saw the couple hundred

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adverts run by Russian intelligence services. If that's what got
you to vote for person lectures, you shouldn't be allowed
to vote if you're that stupid, right.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, intelligence quote it might be nice, but they don't
require one.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
That's for sure, isn't it. Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Absolutely? So what are your what are your guys thoughts
about President Trump and the federal government taken over the
DC policing or the police Department.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Long overdue. This is about time, and I'm sick of
hearing the lying leftists and Democrats distort things in media.
It's aritocratic. It's it. I'd love to take every it's
got dational. No, it's not. The District of Columbia's federal
territory under the control of the executive and the legislative branches.
That's how it works. The land was granted by Maryland

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and Virginia were nigged. They didn't give up their land. No,
they Indian givers, just like we gave land Indians and
then took it back from Indian givers. Yeah, that's a
slight against white folks.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
By the way, SEO type.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
People think that that's that's an insult in Native Americans.
It's an insult to the people who run the country.
They eravirogated the treaties we made agree with the Native Americans.
We broke it as a nation, not we personally, but
as a nation. And that term Indian givers about the
people who who take back what they what they provided.
So yeah, I know, but that's exactly what the deal
here is. The District of Columbia is federal land. It's

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federal territory, and it was under complete federal control until
the early nineteen seventies when they foolishly passed the DC
Home Home Rule law, which gives limited autonomy to the district.
And the mayor of that district should be locked up
and removed from office. She has no business in office.
She's a political operative, not a mayor, and has led
disastrous rained despite the fact that I heard Laura Ingram

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say that this has been the best mayor. Look, the
bar was so low that the local dogcatcher could be
a better mayor of DC. I mean, we're comparing mayoralships
of DC to Marion Barry. Let's keep that in mind. Right.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Marion Barry, who mind you was called a smoking crack
while mayor buying crack, smoking crack, and then was elected
re elected some years later to city council and he
eventually he's passed away now, but was a city council
at a respected city councilman and a city elder. I mean,
come on now, your mayor and your elected elder, if

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you will, it's a crackhead, Come on now.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
That's beyond a joke. And the distri Columbia passed local
ordinances that undermine the rule of law, handicap law enforcement,
and subject law enforcement officers who are doing their jobs
which should give them qualified immuni to civil lawsuits and
destruction their lives. As a consequence, the district authorized over
four thousand peace officers. They can barely maintain a force
a little over three thousand because people don't work for

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the DC Metropolice, because their lives can be destroyed for
simply doing their job because of false racist allegations, false
you know, excessive force allegations. The District Columbia is federal land.
All these these screaming harpies need to shut up and
read the law. Learn the Constitution. Learn what they're talking about.
They don't know what they're talking about. This is why
we created District Columbia and why the capitol didn't stay

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in Philadelphia. The nation's capital was in Philadelphia under the
Articles Confederation. We moved it to land donated by Maryland
and the Indian giving Virginia legislature, and we left it
simply in the Maryland side. So they can shut up.
And Trump is long overdue. He should have done this
a long time ago. And the nonsense todd about ooh,
what's next? That don't take over Birmingham and in LA

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seat what authority? He has no authority to do that.
He didn't take over Los Angeles. He did not do it.
He simply exercised his legal constitutional role under the Constitution
in Los Angeles, which should have been done in twenty twenty,
in Minneapolis and many other places. He could do this
in DC because DC belongs to the Feds. Get over yourselves,

(07:59):
you think that we are. This is why they took
Civics out of the curriculum in junior high school, so
that Americans would be stupid and not understand how the
government works. But we're not all stupid. Some of us
managed to get to public school before you clowns got
in charge of our curriculums and deprived our offspring of
a proper education. Fortunately, some of us teach our kids
right from wrong. And you left this Your day's ending soon.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
You know we uh uh, well, a month or two
ago we had interviewed a gentleman by the name of
Adam Schwartz, who happens to be the founder and CEO
of Crowds on Demand.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
You remember, right, Oh, yeah, absolutely good interview.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
He recently on Fox News, I believe, talking about how
Boom and his business is right now because they're looking
for warm bodies to be in DC to oppose all
these Trump activities and stuff, and so you know, they
talk about the outrage here of citizens and how bad
manufactured cot people out of anywhere in the country and

(08:52):
put them in DC and say, this poor DC resident
is just suffering. It's live, it's all sacklizing bullshtein.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, what part of this you live? Just give me
the street, Just give me the street you live on.
Don't don't give me your address? Uh main Street?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, I no, you don't. So did you did you
notice did you notice the protest in the District Columbia
when they're said, this is our town, chump, it's not
for you whatever, some stupid song they made up there.
These people are you know, gosh man, no wonder I
use artificial just make is long gone folks. Yeah, no,
they all think that they're they're they're little Joan baiez Is.

(09:27):
They're not. But did you notice the racial makeup of it.
It was one thousand percent old, annoying, rich, privileged white turds,
that's what it was. One hundred percent. You know, District
Columbia used to be eighty seven percent black. Now it's
only forty two percent black because of the entification and
all the white folks moving in, because all the government
money that's been there for the last few decades. But
the district is plurality black forty two percent. And not

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one black person was present for that, not one black person. Unbelievable.
Of course, you know the area where that protest took place,
there's few were black folks because they're all concentrated on
the eastern side and the southeastern side of the district
where all the crappy houses and poor neighborhoods are.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
These are the people that live in Colorama or Georgetown,
and that.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Is exactly DuPont Circle. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
It's a very bad stairway. Chup, shut out.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
But the average bank account is probably somewhere around twelve
to thirteen million dollars.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
I have no idea, but they are. That's about as
highs our aqs, So I suppose it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, oh yeah. You see some of those houses, it's
like they're they're not poppers for sure. That goes without saying.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
These people are so pathetic, you know, I mean, first off,
what are they doing out at that time of day.
It's a work day. It's a workday. Are you are
you allergic to work? Good? Lord?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well everybody else that that's that they're protesting for them.
Their behalf works for them in someone of one of
their you know.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
It's their surfs who are busy, right, yeah. You know.
That reminds me of the Fifth Element when Gary Oldham
is sitting in the office and you know, and he's
kaosh kiosh, creates, creates construction and drops and so he
knocks over the glass and a little machine comes out
and sweeps it all right, right, Yeah, I love it, Yes,
that he Swallowly swallows the cherry or whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
That movie is. The characters on that movie are over
the top and I love it.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
They are, they are. It's in paradise, Ruby Rod screaming
at the camera. Anyway, we digress. We were talking about
District and Columbia. Yes, it's long overdue. It's long overdue.
This should have been done in the first term of
this is going on. Look, here's the DC Metropolitan Police
and the d C political authorities must be taking their

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lessons and governance from the a n C in South Africa,
Africannastion of Congress and the South African Police Service because
they're doctoring crime statistics. They've got official has been suspended.
He was caught doing it. We know they're doing it.
And all I said in South Africa, I've got I've
got the police report from a farm murder which is
listed as a house robbery to cover up the fact
there are farm motors because they're trying to to disavow
knowledge of it. They're covering up. DC's crime rate is down. No,

(12:01):
it's not. No, it's not. That's not a nonsense. Also,
the the the police reform laws, which meant the the
institution of instantiation of lawlessness because the police can't do
their job, have undermined a knee cap law enforcement the district.
These young kids running around destroying things, breaking stores, nothing
happens to them. They need to be taken out horsewip,
publicly embarrassed, then put into a prison, not a juvenile center,

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and then maybe they'll grow up.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I agree with you. A lady was shot today at
eleven am at the thirty three hundred block of Fifteenth
Street Northeast, in broad daylight, in a neighborhood in d C.
You know, she issues on our way to work. I
imagine her somewhere or out to do something, but shot
middle of the day. You know, no problem, people have
no problem going to your neighborhood and shooting you. You're
gonna tell me your city is safe. I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I have to tell you that. You know, I used
to drive into the district every day because I worked
at Dependagon and oftentimes briefed that the at the Eyes
and our office building brief the National Security Council also
an building, and gone into Congress. So I've been through
there a lot, and I've been in DC hundreds of times,
and I have to say that clearly. Twenty five to
forty percent of the times I've been in DC, I've

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had to you know, be alert as police are responding
to a call. Yeah, oh yeah, twenty five to forty
percent of the time police are barreling down the road
responding to a shooting or a domestic violence or an assault,
or a home invasion or something like that. It's insane.
And I'm not talking about in the Mall area and
the White House. I'm talking about in the residenty areas
of DC.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Right, Yeah, I'll tell you how many times I've been there,
you know, late at night. Just listen for those sirens
of the day man, you know, late at night though,
it's it's, it's it's it's even more so, you know,
just screaming all throughout that city.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Twenty four seven, twenty for seven.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, and the cops are way under strength and undermanned
for the district. And quite frankly, Trump is right, it's
an embarrassment. This should be the showcase of our nation
or a national capital. Instead it's become an embarrassment of drugs,
store break ins, home invasions, rapes, robberies, and total lawlessness.
Total chaos and bowser. She needs to be you know,
she needs to be removed. That woman has no business
in governance, right.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I used to go to a Draper's cigar shop, which
is right near the White House now. Actually it's right
across from the Treasury Building now, but they used to
be around the corner for many, many years. And I
used to go around there and there was a DC
police sergeant. He was in there probably two or three
times a week or whatever, and we just have chit
chats and like he would when I first got to
know him. He's like, you know, do you live here
or are you visiting or whatever? And I said, no,

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I live here. He's like, okay, I just want to
let you know. He's like, don't venture like two more
blocks that way, in one block that way. He's like,
it's this and he give me all the rundown of
what goes on in these areas.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah. No, it can be quite dangerous. It's embarrassing, it's sad,
you know. It's one reason why I tell people a
Philadelphia know, I used to go to rugby frequent down
there in Chester on the southeast side of Philadelphia. Oh,
you take your life in your hands down there, man,
because you have to drive through incredibly dangerous dambords and
people live there don't want to live there. It's so dangerous.
And you know Larry Krasner, that clown. I caught him
the other day talking about the nonsense. You know, he's

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running his mouth about Trump and DC. He needs to
shut up. That's a Soros funded district attorney who lets
rapists and murders out with no bail. They go right
back in the same neighborhoods where they're acused of the
crime and commit similar crimes on the same day. They've
been released over and over again. And this guy is
still at the district attorney in Philadelphia. It's insane, right well,
switching switching cities New York City, Zohan Momdanian Zoolander, Yeah, Zoolander.

(15:24):
He went over to Staten Island to do a a
an anti Trump rally, and apparently Staten Islanders told him
to go back where you come from. We don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Hett Island is Trump country.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, Staten Island is not democratic territory. That's for sure,
big mistake. Working class people not the place that they're
going to go. Yeah, Zulander. You know this guy is
he's got nothing, so distracting from his fascist leftist communist
Islamic fascist promotion agenda, he is now attacking Trump. Trump

(15:58):
has nothing to do with this. The guy left York
City over. Guys, he took his billions away, right.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, that's the problem. We can't tax his billions now
he's got them in Florida tucked away safely.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Right well, you don't have to worry about taxes billions
because you know who's taxing is billions. Judges taking away
five hundred million for a bond as clowns. Did ever
get his money back? I wonder?

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right well, speaking of Mom Donnie is another headline on
Fox City on Missouri grocery store closes as Mom Donnie
or Zoolander campaigns for some in New York And basically,
the state has pushed millions of dollars to these things
and they're still going going under because the model doesn't work,
and Mom Donnie wants to have these in New York

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City funded by you, the taxpayers.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
By the way, what are you going to say about
this stuff? This stupidity is off the charts, but you
know it's it's it's what we've allowed to happen. You know,
somehow Americans took their eye off the ball and we
let this country be taken over by a small number
of absolute backcrap, crazy lunatics at every level. And now

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we just have to beat them back. We have to
push them back and bring reason and common sense back
to the polarity. And people need to stop saying, well,
I don't care about politics. It doesn't matter if you care.
Politics comes for you, whether you like it or not.
You need to age it comes for you.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah. Yeah, just because you don't take an interest in
it doesn't mean it won't take an interest in you
and your pocketbook, your bank account and generations to come,
ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
That's one hundred percent correct, And that's the problem. I
think a lot of people they just they don't like
it because it's just it seems it seems is something unpleasant.
Well that's fine, I appreciate it's unpleasant. But the bottom
line here, ladies and gentlemen, is it, whether you like
or not, it's coming for you, and you need to
be engaged or at least informed. I mean, it's it's
when I came back from from I've told the story
before when I came back from from Africa after nine

(17:44):
to eleven and after Thanksgiving in two thousand and one,
and I was at an Arby's. It was an Arby's
down in Frederick, Maryland, and people were talking about, you know,
the Supreme Court stole the election. I'm like, huh, what
are you talking about? What election last year? Two thousand. Yeah,
they stole the election and gave it to Bushes. No
they didn't, Yeah they didn't know. They didn't. I said,

(18:05):
what did Supreme Court do? They said, well, they ordered
Trump the winner. No they didn't. The Supreme Court directed
that the Florida Supreme Court, which was rogue and violating
support of Florida's constitution, which is ironic because their role
is to uphold the constitution. The constitution required that the
vote be certified. They refused to allow it to be certified.
The Supreme Court stepped in and forced them to certify

(18:25):
it by a certain date. That's what happened. And you
couldn't get al Gore couldn't throw out the military apps
and tee ballots, which was desperately trying to do and
win the election. It was over eighteen hundred military apps
te ballots trying to steal our votes from US. And
I was one of those people from overseas, but I
didn't vote Florida. I voted in Ohio, so that of course,
so that's what happened there. But and then you hear this, well,
but oh Gore, would he won more votes? I'm like,

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what does that to do with the price of d
in China? Nothing? The number of votes, it doesn't matter
except in the state. You're voting in the sovereign state.
And with the exception of main and Nebraska, which have
a silly system for dividing electoral votes, it's first past
the post. It's first past the post, so you know,
it doesn't matter. And I found it shocking how woefully
ignorant or how completely ignorant Americans were of electoral college

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and of our system. And then because they're ignorant, they
criticize it. Oh, it's just as terrible. This is all right, No,
it is right. It serves a purpose. Without it, there
would there would not be a republic. We would not
have had a country if smaller states weren't assured that
they would be treated exactly the same as every other state.
So Wyo meegue with five hundred thousand people is just
as important as California with thirty eight million people, just
as important. In the Senate, the people are represented in

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the House, and there you're represented by population of portion
according to you know, little lines drawn here and there
by Democrats and Republicans that are gerimated.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
And that's how you get presidents and vice presidents going
to smaller states that probably wouldn't have never, wouldn't never
receive any attention, you know, otherwise, you know, think about
emergency funding and things like that. Oh, if something happens
in a small, small part of the country, that doesn't matter.
I'm not going to spend any money there. But guess what,
they have a lot of votes. I'm going to show
up and make sure that they get all they need

(20:01):
for sure. That's how they pay attention to you.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Well, I have to tell you, you know, Jason Alden had
a great song and it applies to politics to try
that in a small town.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Right, absolutely. I want to get your assessment. Friday, there's
going to be a summit in Anchors alleged, the summit
with Putin and Trump. What are you what are your thoughts?
What do you think is going to come out? Of
this summit, We're going to get anything out of Putin?
Or is this going to be.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Like a wash. I don't think we'll get anything out
of Putin. I'd be surprised if we did. I don't
know why Putin wants this. He asked for the summit,
according to the White House, and I'll accept that that
he wants it. But I think Putin is under under
a lot of pressure here. I'm not sure what Trump's
got left up his sleeve to stop Putin, but Trump
has had enough of Putin and he basically Trump is

(20:45):
is not said he's going to expect anything of this,
but I get the feeling that if he doesn't get
a ceasefire out of this, then Trump is going to
bring maximum pressure, whatever that might be, against the Russian Federation. Look, Putin,
I don't know what this deal is. He's got what
he wanted. You know, when this thing started, people asking
me the night Remember I was a sea pack I'd
just gone down there. Then John came down. He's already
in Florida, but he came by a little bit later

(21:06):
and I was down there and when the attack occurred,
when they crossed the border that nights, when I arrived
and I got to the motel room after they finally
found the night security guy who was sleeping and who
had the master key because the key machine was broken.
He let me in my room and I got in
and the thing took place. And be like, oh, how
long is it gonna last? A couple months? I'm like
a couple of months now, this is three to five years, minimum,
three to five years. And here we are three and

(21:26):
a half years later, still going on, and the thing is, well,
why did put and do this? I said, well, as
far as I'm concerned, I think his strategic objectives are
to basically annex the eastern third of Ukraine up to
the Nepper River, and he doesn't have that territory yet.
I think that's why the wars continued. But that would
put him on the doorstep of Kiev, and the Ukraine's
are never going to go for that. So I suspect

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that if people could get rid of Zelenski and his
corrupt government and overthrow them or remove them from office
in Ukraine, they would agree to peace screen with They
let the Russians keep the doughnutsk and Lukansk and the
crime which has gone forever excuse me, excuse me, I
was coughing there. Yeah. So the thing is is that

(22:08):
what people pay no attention to. And I'm not saying
it's right. I'm not backing Russia here at all, but
the area is that the Russians took over were overwhelmingly
ethnic Russian, overwhelming ethic Russian. And if they had a
plebiscite in those areas like they did, you know, in
the Starland for Germany after the Second World War, then
these territories likely would have voted to join Russia most likely.
And so you know, I don't understand unless there's valuable

(22:33):
minerals there or it's a natural defense barrier, which it
really isn't because it's plans for the most part, why
the Ukrainians are so demonically holding on to this at
the loss of a million lives. They don't seem to
care that politicians, how many Ukrainians and Russians they can
get killed. They'll just keep going till there's nobody left.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
They didn't want to give up. But from my understanding,
I've seen some reports that broke through Ukraine's front lines
and now Ukraine or how you say, it's Zolensky he's
entertaining the thought about giving up the Dombos region you Russia.
Now I think he's realizing he's lost, and uh so

(23:11):
it's to my understanding, he's thinking about US seeding that
over to Russia. And so I'm expecting maybe in these
talks it's gonna be more or less about going back
to what Trump was previously proposing, about giving Ukraine certain
access to the waters and things like that, certain rights.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well, the thing is that may be the case, but publicly,
what they're saying is the press is reporting that he's
convinced Trump not to negotiate any territory way in this meeting.
Trump says that wasn't his plan, but you know Trump,
Trump says things aren't his plan. Next thing, it has
a peace agreement all over the world.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Right right, come out? Yeah, we say, now this is
the best one ever. It's the best. You know, the
Ukraine will agree with it.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
It's over like that. We we were gonna talk about that,
but it came out his mine. I'm wrapping it up
on my way home.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
But seriously, how many how many conflicts the Trump have
to end before he gets a Nobel Peace prize? I mean,
maybe he should just weigh in and end the conflict
in Me on Mar. He's ended conflicts all over the world.
He ended He ended the war in Iraq, he ended
the war in Afghanistan. He's negotiated piece in the Least
which was destroyed by Biden. He ended the conflict in
the Congo. I don't know that's going to keep. And
he's now ended. He's he's put a piece settlement and
the Caucasus between you know, bitter rivals. I mean, what

(24:20):
does this guy have to do? I mean, does he
have to like when the Alpha Centurions come or when
Mars attacks, does he have to stop the Martians come on?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
What he could do is simply does every day come
out and be like, hold up a piece of paper.
I've ended the conflict in Me and Mar. It's over.
I signed it, and like everybody there and look at
each other and like, all right, I guess we have
to go home now it's over. Trump's said, and they
just leave and go home, right. He would get no
credit for it.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Look, I want to see him negotiate peace with Mars.
I mean, because I really I don't want the imagery
of Sarah Jess Parker's head on a Chihuahua really is
stuck in me forever, you know. So I'd really liked,
I really like see Trump negotiate, you know, peace with
the Martians.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
That'd be pretty cool, think you could, right, Uh yeah,
but but President Trump did say, uh that Putin would
suffer very severe consequences if Russia doesn't agree to in
the war in Ukraine. Uh oh, that's kind of a
that's going in pretty strong right there. I mean, what
are the severe consequences? Are we talking about military action

(25:18):
or just more economic sanctions or or you're a bad
guy Putin, you know, something like that world tour Trump.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Trump's method of operations usually sanctions, Yeah, sanctions.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
There are sanctions, yeah, I mean, but but but he's
also had had had the European allies, if you will,
to think about you know that I have already spoken
with Trump about what what they they're expecting, and apparently
they're they're in agreeance before he's going in there, according
to the White House.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, I was gonna say, Putin's does have a whole
lot of friends in Europe right now, so right a
lot a lot of the world's against them for what
he's been doing.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yep, but like Germany, apparently the Chancellor spoke with Trump
and said basically, hey, don't negotiate X, Y and Z
a way, and and Trump's like, you know, I'm right
there with you. Not gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
So I think I think Pablo Charlie's got a good
point here, said Russia will not give up, nor lu
hanskin don esque. They're already integrated as republics. But then
Russian federation richest and minerals. I think that's that's an
issue within itself. And he said sanctions, we'll do nothing,
and I'm sure it won't. I mean, Putin's got a
lot of support from the polarized opposition of the you know,
of the access here all with Iran and China, and

(26:26):
you know, I guess China and Russia can become good
buddies and stuff, you know, while right well, all that's
been going on.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
The actions are going to do anything for the very
reason I said before the conflict even started. Two months
before they launched the conflict, a little over about six
weeks before Putin went to China and she agreed to
buy lumber and oil, coal, iron, steel, all kinds of
commodities from the Russians and give them hard currency and return.
So they've been skirting the sanctions very beginning. It doesn't

(26:55):
matter what steps feel taken. As long as the Chinese
communists continue to support Russia tacitly by allowing this nonsense continue,
they are not going to succumb. It's as simple as that.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
That's providing China can even sustain itself. From my understanding,
they've had a lot of economic issues and problems.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
China does have a lot of problems, and I've beenelling
about this for years, for years, been talking about China
is like going to take over. Remember the story, China
will surpass the United States economy. You're twenty ten, twenty fifteen,
twenty twenty, twenty, twenty two, three four, five, six of
now they're saying twenty forty. It may very well happen
one day. But when you have five times three times
as many people, or five times many people as we have,
you ought to have an economy large in ours. But
if you go on a per capita basis that Chinese

(27:33):
are basically paupers compared to us. The bottom line here
is that they've had a lot of trouble and it's
a consequence of the rapid growth of their economy. In
order to keep the economies used for a number of years,
the state had intervened and build apartment buildings and factories
and roads that nobody uses. Nobody lives there. You know,
that's insane. The amount of concrete that China has put
and turned in just a few short years exceeded all

(27:56):
concrete production in the US in the twentieth century. And
a lot of this is unused infrastructure. If you go
fifty miles in from the coast, there's not much to China.
It's still a thirteenth century in many places, it really is.
So they've got lots of problems with expectations from a
mind rising middle class to expect to have healthcare and
good life and good working conditions and political voices and

(28:17):
stuff like that. They've done massive ecological damage to their
environment because they don't care about the environment they claim
they do. You know, this is a country that builds
there fifty coal fire power plants every year and then
castigates the rest of the world in the West for
you know, it's pollution. They surpass the United States as
world's largest producer over a decade ago, and now they're
producing almost twice as much pollution as the United States

(28:38):
and there are no consequences of them, and they don't care.
They don't care. It's about craven political power and domination.
Now they have ignored the International Court of Justice ruling
against them in the South China Seas, and they're asserting
sovereignty in area they have no sovereignty. And now they
claim they chased aw a US ship from there just yesterday.
It's look, these people are bad actors and people need
to wake up to that. They need to wake up

(28:59):
to that.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Yeah, what was that the USS Higgins? Apparently I think
China was going after a Philippine Coast Guard ship or
something and we intervene.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Sorry I missed that.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
I said, what was it? The Chinese? We're going after
Philippine ghost Coast Guard ship and we were called to intervene,
and so we did. And now they're claiming we were
encroaching on their sovereign waters, which was international waters. In
the US was a statement on it was, you know,
we will sell wherever we're legally allowed to sell with
an international law, and we were doing so. And it

(29:34):
is our duty to come to the call of an
ally that is being attacked or assaulted by an adversary.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah. Well, I mean, look, the Chinese have this habit
of asserting sovereignty over places they lack sovereignty. The Scarborough
shows what I'm talking about, and that's not their sovereign territory.
That's that's in open international waters. They've fraudently built military
bases there. They've destroyed reefs to build these bases, and
they are just bad actors and it's time for some
of the ating them in. They're really out of control.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
From my understanding, they were selling right off the coast
of Hawiian not that long ago.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Well, you can sell off the coast of Waife I
mean within the reason twelve twelve.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah, international waters, they can. But right I don't know
if they're encroaching or not. I didn't get that, but
I guess they were coming pretty close, so I don't
I don't think they were being threatening.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Uh yeah, but coming that close is obviously very talent
to see see at what point are we going to
engage them or tell them they need to turn around
and go back.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
It could be they like to play those games. I
remember when they first started building their building their military.
By the way, it's out outsourcing the China that's made
them such a rich enough nation they could be for military.
And I remember in the nineties and stuff when they're
getting these new warships and stuff. From my understanding, they
got some pretty interesting warships.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Now, yeah, thant right.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, yeah, right. You think the United States of America
for funding this. I mean we participated when we went
shopping there. But yeah, so, but yeah, as soon as
they get this warship man, the first thing they do,
because they got a beef of Taiwan, they want it back.
And uh that's the first thing they do is go
float in front of the tyewe saying like, hey, hey,
look what we got. We're looking at you now.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Now look, there's bad actors, guys, They're just bad actors.
They need to be reined in and need to be
taken care of, as simple as that. But you know,
we've had success administrations that have facilitated the Chinese Communists,
starting with the Clinton administration sponsoring their entry into the World
Trade Organization, one of the biggest political disasters in his
modern history of the world. The Chinese have no business
being an organization whose rules they violate on a daily basis.

(31:30):
They're not interested in free trade. They are interested in mercantilism.
And that's their system, and that's what they're using. Took
mass wealth and they used to punish the world. Remember
all of our pets they murdered when they sent their
their their ethyl gly call poisoned pet food over here.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Right, right, I'll kind of forget.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, well that's uh, that's just the first step, you know.
And then of course they gave us their their their
altered little virus that came over here. Now they got
another one. Yeah, and by the way, you know, they
lied about it. But Fauci has a crime that's so foreign,
gain a function.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Right, and and Fauci, Founci got a pardon. And it's like, Fauci,
you can't say that you're innocent of something if you're
gonna if you're gonna accept a pardon, you got it. Essentially,
with the acceptance of a pardon comes comes to with
an admission of guilt, even if he remains silent.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Right, I don't know if that's true. That's my thought
on it.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
I agree with Chris because I'm thinking if I was
worked for the government and the President just said, here's
a pardon just in case I'll be able to like,
you know what, it's it's insurance. Yeah, I made a mistake.
I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
I don't, but I don't think accepting the pardon. First off,
it's not a real part in the autopend sign it.
So that's going to be provoked at some point once
we get around to that.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
She should be.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
So once we get we get through these tariffs and
get these countries load the trade barriers so we can
lower them back down. I think we're gonna get back
to things like that. But Fauci needs to be pursued.
His uh and all these people, including Hillary Clinton, they
think that they've outlived the statue limitations, but racketeering doesn't
have a statue of limitations. And this is a criminal enterprise. Obama, Clinton,
Comy Brennan, Uh, Peter Struck, Lisa Page, Bruce or all

(33:01):
these people involved in a vast racketeering conspiracy and therefore
therefore they're all still subject to prosecution. So get ready, folks,
there's gonna be some K Street lawyers making a lot
of money. Well what I would hope, So right, yeah,
these people should be making a lot of money these lawyers,
because these people should be defending themselves because they're criminals.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
That's a good point on the Racketeering Man we go
Act to know.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah. Absolutely. As I'm scrolling some of the headlines here,
did you know we have a looming government shut down
on September thirtieth?

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yeah, they gotta do another budget bill and right.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Of course they're not going to come back until after
Labor Day. And then then what are they going to do?
What kind of budget is it going to be? Oh,
we're gonna get through the holidays to like January first
or something second.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
I honestly don't care shut the government down. I don't mind,
you know what I mean, It's like, go ahead. We've
done it before and we had a boom economy doing it,
so I mean maybe maybe it don't help.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Well, here's the thing. I'm a little confused. You have
to color confused here. The big beautiful bill was supposed
to be the budget for this coming year. So how
are we running out of money? How do we not
have an authorization? I'm confused by that. That's why Acroporations
Bill was it or was it a separate piece of
legislation that authorized spending that that should be in the
appropriations bill. So I'm a little confused as to why

(34:17):
we have to shut the government down. But quite frankly,
aside from air traffic control, customs and immigration border patrol, right,
I really don't care.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Think I think what the I think what they're doing
is they're they're breaking it up, aren't they. So they're
they're they're budgeting for certain things that are expiring now
and then they got something else expiring later where they
need to budget some more. So instead of doing one
big budget for the next year, they're they're doing it twice.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, that sounds like it, But I mean, I think
we've been hoodwinked here, the whole idea behind and passing
that they had to pass it by this date, by
he wanted by fourth July one. Presume that was to
get a budget. Because this government is incapable of passing
a budget for thirty plus years. They can't pass the budget.
We live on community.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
They can't. Yeah, they can't seem to balance a budget.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
They are not balance pass budget. We start every year
with continuing resolutions.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah, embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
When I was in Liberriya in two thousand and seven.
It took them two weeks past their deadline to pass
their budget, and the US government's criticize them, like, hey, guys,
excuse me, we don't have a budget, but we're nine
months through the year and we have a continuing resolution.
What do you picking up librarians for.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
So the concept is, if you're creating a budget, you're
creating a balanced budget, right you want to, you want
to balance the books, get things sorted out, and they don't.
It has been almost thirty years.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
It's been a long time. I don't disagree with you
that the concept should be you'd want to have a
balanced budget. But right now I'd be happy for a
budget that starts on October first. That'd be good enough
for me.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
I think this is what led to the wild spending.
You know, they made a budget. They might have to
stick to it if they if they keep doing the resolutions,
they're like, raise a dut selling, raise a dut selling's
I don't know where, I don't know what you call.
They're screwing us all over, They're screwing over the whole country.
They're screwing us all over. None of this makes sense
to me. None of it And the funny thing is,

(35:58):
I remember George W. Bush standing at the pot and
Wagan is finger with the American people in two thousand
and seven, we're facing that crisis on the housing market,
bubble bursting, and he's going, well, the American people have
an obligation to pay their debts. You encourage them to
take the loans. They took the loans, and now they're
screwed with the loans, and you're gonna chastise them in

(36:18):
front of God and everybody.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Good job, of course, right.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Nd percent. Now it's look, can we get in subprime
mortgage thing? That's an hour time. I love it because
it was falsely portrayed to the world, and they blamed
your question. Ironically that year when the subprime mortgage thing
took effect in two thousand and eight, from January until September,
capital gains coming into the treasury were so high that

(36:46):
even though three million jobs were evaporated from October through
December and revenue defeller government dropped specifically, it was still
the single largest year in the history United States of
personal income tax revenue coming into the treasury. That years
after the Bush tax cuts, and then they tried to
blame all that in Bush taxes had nothing to do
with it. It had to do with the Congress illegitately

(37:08):
interfering in the housing market by financing and backing Fanny
Made freddie Mac and then giving them a quasi public
private charter. They give them a charter, they have to
answer to Congress, they have to make things to make
loans that people aren't eligible, and then they had to
answer to shareholders. The only way to give a return
to shareholders continue to grow, because you want a stock

(37:28):
to grow and grow your revenue is to buy loans.
So they bought up loans. Between those two quasi federal
peris tatles Fandyman Freddieck, two out of every three home
mortgages were in their hands. That is an unacceptable concentration
of debt in the hands of two actors. And as
a consequence of that, we had a marketplace that nearly

(37:49):
collapsed because they were in trouble and they were bailed
out because the implicit guarantee. That's why. See here's the thing,
and then let me just cover this very quickly. So
the problem with Fandyman freddie Mac is that they competed
unfairly in the marketplace with businesses like Countrywide and Bank
of America. All the people ate home loans. When they
would borrow money from the larger banks to put you know,

(38:10):
they borrow money or put bonds out there to raise
money to from investors, they would pay a half a
point a quarter to half a point higher interest rates
than Fandyman Freddiemac. Why because the vestors believed correctly that
they were rock solid. Doesn't matter what happens. They don't
even had to be running well. They will be backed
if they ever get in trouble. And this was the
first time they got in trouble. Theyrever you get in trouble,

(38:30):
the federal g wist step in, and they did step in,
and they make sure their money is protected. So they've
always had unfair fanaghs. So they can make loans and
they can buy loans at a cheaper rate than all
the commercial banks. That's unfair intrusion the capital marketplace. And
this isn't complicated, but it's too esoteric for most people
to pay attention to. So the federal government created the
circumstances that led to the subprime mortgage and by the way,

(38:51):
only three percent of the subprime mortgages, which are less
than five percent of the total mortgage market were the
ones we're in trouble. And three percent of a five
percent is what caused almost entire global financial meltdown. That's
the problems that Congress creates, the Community, the Community re
Investment Act, and then this chartering of FANA man Freddie
Mack to give loans to people who don't qualify for loans,

(39:12):
and then they had to be competitive for investors. They
bought them up, packaged them in these commercial back mortgage securities.
And this is the problem. And that's all spun from that,
and no one wants to take responsibility for but the
very peop response for it is still there. Mitch McConnell,
Nancy Pelosi still in government, still there, the people that
nearly collapse entire global financial system and the weak in
America unbelievable. And on top of that, quantitative easy the

(39:34):
prenty of non existent.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Money, right right, Well, you think about the actors that
you just didn't described are still there or just mentioned.
They're also they're still doing inside of trading as well,
becoming you know, even wealthier millionaires on top of everything
they already had beforehand.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Oh that's a whole other kettle. Officient you're spot on.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
To mention saying the Stock Act didn't mean anything. Nah nah, Yeah,
trading out questional knowledge aack passing in twenty twelve. It's
supposed to be disclosures and stuff. The problem with it
is real, okay, So you can't make trade deals based
on your your decision making and loanment on legislation. However,

(40:14):
it doesn't stop them from being joining these groups. These
all we call them, mom, I can't think of the
name of it now, But anyway, you have groups of
investors and stuff like that. They take a seat on
the board and become advisors to these investor groups. Sure,
so they're not directly investing their money, but they're advising
how to invest the money. That's the same thing. But
you know what, there's always a loophole.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Of course, folks are listen of the common Sense Conservatives.
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(40:55):
And of course John Groger always in the studio hold
it down for us. Did you guys see that Benjamin
Nina who spoke at the news Max's fourth annual uh
Newsmax celebration in Jerusalem, and he said, uh, he said
a quote, he said the barbarians.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
He said he will he will end the barbarians at
the gate.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Said yeah, it.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Stands with you, Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, Israel, Israel. The Prime Minister Vigimon nat Now, who
delivered a forceful and wide ranging speech Wednesday at news
Maxis fourth Angel celebration in Jerusalem, declaring that most Americans
reject Amas the lies, and of course stand with Israel
and it's ongoing battle against what he called the barbarians
at the Gate. And I think he's spot on calling

(41:40):
Hamas the barbarians at the gate. What do you guys think?

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Well, is this what he announced that he's thinking about
relocating Gossens to Sudan.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I I don't know if it was that speech or not,
but I think he's spot on in his h he's
the barbarians.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Look something's got something's got to give.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Now.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Israel through the years have made compromises, give them, to
give them the guys a strip. They've done a bunch
of things to try to make compromise and pacify these circumstances,
and all this comes wrong, not being enough, and then
they give blindsided and attacked. And it's not like these guys.
It's not like Amas attacked the military. They attack civilian citizens,
children and stuff. They kill babies and rape women. They

(42:19):
amputated parts off from people. I'm almost like a grog graphic. Well,
but you understand what I'm saying. They were disgusting. He's right,
they're barbarians. I agree, they're barbarians, and something's got to
give them.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Enough is enough, right, I agree, I not disagree.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
I mean it's it's look, it's but Israel is getting
a lot of bad press right now, and it's a
concerted effort to make them look bad. Right, But they're
not helping themselves, and so I have to say that.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Right, Oh, I agree with you. So switching gears back
to DC and their home role here a good friend
of mine, wious Deputy Press Secretary Harrison Fields told Newsmax
on Wednesday that sident Donald Trump's efforts at reducing crime
in the nation's capital is not an effort to end
the district of comes more than fifty years of self government.
He says, quote not all Field's told the record with

(43:11):
Greta van Sustern Uh. And the sad reality is if
DC were a state, it would actually have the highest
crime rate out of any of the states. You've seen
a breakdown in leadership, in total incompetence from a host
of people here in the city that I have allowed
this city to kind of go downhill. And I'm Harrison.
I'm right there with you, buddy. I've done a lot

(43:31):
of work with Harrison in the past. Good Man. His
mother was also an NYPD police officer, just so everybody
knows him, was on duty on nine to eleven. So
when Harrison, he's African American as well, in case people
don't know. So whenever he talks about this, he understands
what the heck he's talking about. He knows the facts here.
And if Harrison's is saying it, I buy it for sure,

(43:54):
good Man, one hundred trust in this guy.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Oh, Maury Obawelser there she she's over there, trying to
talk about Chris hit on it earlier. You know, she's
talked about, well, we're already reducing crime rates. Well, obviously
not enough. And what are you comparing these crime rates?
Do when you're saying twenty twenty one, twenty twenty three,
you're comparing them to twenty twenty right, when you allowed
rioters to go right in the streets. You did nothing

(44:19):
about it but step back and play Black Lives Matter
in the middle of the road, right. You encouraged it.
And now you want to say, well, we've done reductions
and people are still out there dying at droves.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Right, Well, it's reductions from from that level of crime, right,
We're not we don't have rioters in the street right now.
We could that we could burn the whole place down
if we wanted to. That's what they're saying.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Basically, Yeah, yeah, I guess I said, but yeah, you
know it's they really acted uh nefariously really when you
think about it. I mean, the DC Police in January
sixth requested for National Guard. That goes up to the chain, right,
and we know that the Sergeant of Arms said that
we need national Guard. So it goes to Mario. It

(45:00):
goes to Pelosi, and Pelosi shuts down. The sergeant in
arms and the National guardment all requested well at the
same time, they assured President Trump, we have it covered.
You're got enough law enforcement to cover. We're fine, we
don't need them. So, you know, I mean, they act

(45:21):
nefariously and then turn around and try to play innocent.
This is ridiculous, and the set it's finest, Oh.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Absolutely completely, And now look it's they set the conditions,
and Trump administration allowed themselves to be you know, frog
marched into it. They offered stuff, and they should have
made a bigger play of that. You know, look, we've
offered trips after seeing people attack in the streets, and
then they would have attacked Trump for having you know,
been authoritarian. And then when January sixth unfold because I said, see,

(45:50):
I told you. But instead he goes on to Twitter
Live to tell people to behave themselves and leave the
Capitol building, don't harass the police, and then Twitter deletes
that and the press failed to cover, and then they
claim he tried to lead the insurrection. These people are
just so so obvious.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
This was definitely mockingbird media at its finest.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Of course, of course I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
No, these are evil, evil people and they they just
need to be dealt with. And that's the bottom line.
They're criminals amongst them. They actually charging them with the crimes,
and for convict them.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
I wish they would. That's the issue, man, is. We
keep hearing about it, we keep hearing the dissected, and
it always comes down it's a complex. It's an issue,
and there's always a balance between this and that. It's like, no,
it's not that complex. Do your jobs, investigate it and prosecute.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
But yeah, but always the investigation always comes with a hey,
donate to my campaign, donate to my pack, and then
you know, so some sound bites come out of some investigation,
some hearing, some low level lackey takes it, you know,
a shellaking, you know, verbally, and and that's pretty much it.
They move on to the next thing.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Yeah, yeah, thestand they're basically the profiteering off it is
what they're doing, of course.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, it's all theater, by and large, buy and large
a lot of theater.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Oh it, it's just what are Americans doing about it?
You know, That's what it comes down to.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, here's a quick headline for you. And I won't
get into the thing. I just want to get your reaction.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Here.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
It says Fox News again Bill Clinton quote prime suspect
in oversight probe and in Epstein case GP lawmakers say,
and it says, hopefully we'll win that court battle with
that subpoena and see President Clinton. In October, Comber said,
what are your thoughts just on that headline alone? I mean,
is Bill Clinton ever going to see the inside of
a courtroom or ever have to testify on his association

(47:35):
with Jeffrey Epstein?

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Ever, you'll plead the fifth.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
No, it's never gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
No, exactly. Another instance of like, hey, let's get our
hopes up. Somebody's going to fundraise off of this one
more time. It's the Epstein. You know, it's like the
bait and switch. It's like, oh, there's a list, there's
no list. Wait a minute, there's a list fundraised off
of it? No list, you know, come on, now, there's
nothing going to come with this.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Yeahroverbial very briefly.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
But I flew on his plane thirty seven times, but
I went to his island sixteen times, but I never
really knew him.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Right, disassociation, But I was there.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
But but did you know all the women running around,
the young women, Now they were women of college age.
They were on scholarship something like that. Yeah, they were
a scholarship and they were earnering their money doing good,
righteous things. That's my bell Clinton, all right, that's not work.
The foundation worked for the foundation.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Don't take him to Haiti. Those people hate the Clinton.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeah right, I mean how many how many millions did
they pocket off off of that scam?

Speaker 3 (48:47):
I have no idea. I just know that when you
mentioned them and the same breath, Haitians get very angry.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Was foundation that left them twisting in the wind or something?

Speaker 5 (48:56):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, correct, they pocketed millions off of that one.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Yeah, they used a nat use a natural disaster to
make money off of themselves.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Never let a good, a good disaster or disaster or
crisis go to wage, right yeah, yeah, rama Manuel right.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
And if you can't tell, if you can't find a
good disaster, crisis, by all means, create one.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
They do.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Juicy small a speaking in Chicago creates something, create outrage,
you know what I mean? People will believe the most
outrageous things. Two Alabama rednecks come up wearing hats. Wait
waiting in an alley near the subway on the off
chances you're gonna come by so they can assault you
at almost two o'clock in the morning, that somebody outside
ten years ready to go. This is true country. No,

(49:45):
this is pretty much democratic country. It has been from
more than a century.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Guys. It's strange to think the state of one of
the original Republicans, Abraham Lincoln, right.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Right, Well, yeah, it's from the state, but he he didn't,
he didn't. It was a out of Chicago necessarily, No, no.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
About yeah, he.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Springfield area. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's kind of where his
claim to fame came from. Is Springfield not Chicago? For sure? God,
that's that's that. That's what the Daily the Daily family
held control and sway there for decades decades. Yeah, father
and son was in power as mayor. I think total
sixty some years out of one hundred something like that.

(50:29):
Maybe more, maybe more, I can't remember quite a bit.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
You got a history to tell What's that? I said?
Have you got a history to tell us?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
No? No, I'm just saying how corrupt they are, the
whole family. That just you know, just just a thought,
all right, So yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
About five more minutes or so before we hit the
top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Now about five minutes. Yeah, and another another colonel, he
broke down to you know what what we could expect
out of the U this summit that we have coming
up on on Friday with with Putin and Trump and
Anchorage hoping next week if you are able to join us,
I'd love to get your your thoughts on what comes
out of that, you know, if anything at all a.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Good breakdown, well it should be fascinating, they say, at
least and as far as next week, I won't be
six hours, That'll be five hours, so that's a little
a little less punishing. So the seven will be midnight,
so I'll be able to join at midnight. I'll certainly
be able to do the first hour without too much trouble.
But that's six hour difference is a tough one. That's
one am, it goes to three am. But yeah, so look,

(51:31):
I mean, I don't think back the whole lot to
come out of this, and it doesn't matter what comes
out of it, the Democrats will attack it and make
false claims about the whole thing. So I mean, you know,
you know, it's just that's that's the truth. These guys
are They're never they're never letting go. They just constantly
come up nonsense and it makes no sense whatsoever, but
they do it anyway. That's just who they are, right,
So they're all about Bowser, you know, acted like she

(51:51):
was going to be an adult. You know. It's an
example here with with the Trump asserting authority over the
security of DC and now she's backed out of it.
You know, she's turned around. She's trying to play both sides,
of course, and that's she's actually one of the more
rational democrats. I didn't say rationally, I said more rational.
It's a degree there. It's it's not guaranteed. So yeah,

(52:14):
it's like I mean, it's I you know, let's see
what happens. I personally, I don't agree with the idea
of doing this elementor of air Force base. I would
have done it at a national park or you know,
somewhere like Prude Obay, you know, somewhere like that, right,
you know, do it out, you know, in a beautiful
scenic backdrop instead of dead an air base. That's I
don't know why they're doing it that, I guess for convenience.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Right, may be like Vladimir look at all this you
sold it to us for seven million dollars, thanks buddy.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Soa wait, wait, do we see the uninformed, idiotic journalist
so called journalists in today modern era reporting for the
Washington Compost, New York Slimes or whatever the way. Do
we see them comment and say that I called the Americans,
didn't arrests and arrest were for him. And I'll stop
that right now because not signatories to the International Criminal Court,

(53:03):
and we have no obligation to arrest anyone, and we
haven't right to arrest anyone. No.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Right, Well, he's also a ce state or a head
of state, right, he's here in a diplomatic mission. He's
not here to be arrested.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Sorry, correct, that violates the tendants of the Vienna Conventions.
And you know it's it's you know this, this whole
thing about Putin going to South Africa a couple of
years ago when I was there for the Bricks sum
and he should have gone. He didn't go, but he
should have gone. South Africans are busy giving us the
thumb the rest of the time. I'm as giving everybody
the thumb on this and not arrest them. They didn't
arrest Omar Bashir. You know, he was wanted by the ICC,

(53:34):
had a warrant out for genocide. Anyway, that's look, it's that,
that's what they're gonna say. They're gonna they're gonna they're
gonna try to say that we should have done something
to arrest or whatever. But it doesn't matter. That war
isn't simply because of Vladimir Putin. It's gonna take me
more than getting rid of Vladimir Putin for this war
to end. Maybe maybe I'm that's simple, but I think
there's too many people the best of interest here, and

(53:54):
the if Vladimir Putin, if his plane crash or something
like that, or he was gone, or he had a
heart attack or he fell off his horse, you know,
trying to strut around, Uh, then maybe maybe it could
end in someone. But there'll be a power struggle inside
the Kremlin to see who gets Oh yeah, top, And
he's started a good job eliminating his rivals from making
them neutered. So I really don't know who it arise,
you know.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Right, yeah, what strong man is going to take his place?
You know, they're going to have to be more heavy
handed than him to gain power to keep it, you know,
I mean, where do you go from there? And then
the destructive nature of that to the people of Russia,
you know, and of course the surrounding neighbors, Ukraine, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
What happens, Well, I think the surrounding states will be okay.
It's but I think one of the the smartest, the
coolest things here is Trump. You know, he encroached on
Putin's backyard by you know, negotiating a peace set in
the Caucuses, and that's gonna be right. That made Putin
look very bad, you know, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Probably not happy about that.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
That's hilarious. It's absolutely hilarious.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yeah, yes, that is very funny. And all all sides
are like, Trump did a great job. They're plotting like
I love it, and and VADIMR. Putin's like us speak
with him and Alaska. And then I think he was
after that that that Putin called for the meeting, did
he not?

Speaker 3 (55:03):
I believe it was after the big announcement of the
peace negotiations and suddenly he wants to talk.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Oh, oh, I screwed this one up.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Well, I mean, they don't want peace there, That's why
they would never be able to negotiated. So Trump swooping
in from the outside and working a deal out, whether
it holds or not of the story, but working a
deal out in what is the Russian sphere of influence
is probably not making him happy, you know. And we'll
see what happens going there. There's a message I missed
earlier from Courtney saying that Barney Frank played a big
role right crisis. Yeah, no, he's right. Barney Frank is

(55:34):
very guilty and all that. Another slimy member of Congress.
Glad to see the backside of him. No pun intending
didn't have like a little to make front of his
speech impedim I know, I know, imitating, I'm imitating a
little bit. I'm sorry. It was actually pretty good.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
We'll be right back after stick around, folks, All right,

(56:15):
go see Roger over there. I want to stop in
there at some point, John, I think you should go
over there and take a picture with with with Roger.
What do you think I like that?

Speaker 4 (56:28):
I mean, anything's possible. I could go over there and
take a picture as Roger. Yeah, I mean I thought
about going over to see Roger. But hey, you know,
you know.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
You may need a headstone at some point down the road,
you know, just get an idea.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
At some point, hopefully from a very very distant future. Yeah,
I'll probably need more.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Absolutely, that's a great commercial. I love I love the
voice perfect.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Yeah it's well worded, you know the way that it is.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Oh it is. And then the voice is like, there
you go. That's a good commercial, my friend.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
We'll will we was Wilbur Brimley or Wilfrid Brimley. Yeah,
Wolford Brimley sounded voice. Hey, I remember the voice. I
remember the faith. I couldn't remember the name.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
So well, he's selling the oatmeal now or diabetes medication
over here.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Oh yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
It's Wilford Brimley still around.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
No, he's gone. I he passed what a few years ago?
I think it was, Hey, I got to I got
that that Walrus must task. He was a heck of
an actor, though he was weirdly an a lister. It's
like that's I don't know, it's kind of weird, right
you think a list is now like the it's all
this carry Grant looking, you know, it's like Brad Pitt

(57:39):
and all that. But yeah, everybody knew who he was, right, I.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Mean Wilford Brimley was born in September twenty seventh, nineteen
thirty four. He passed in Salt Lake City, Utah. He
passed away August first to twenty twenty in Saint George, Utah.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Oh wow, it's sad.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Sad.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Absolutely yeah. So Kansas City mayor who's African Americans, claims
that Trump this is according to Fox, there is targeting
cities with black leaders in crime crackdown. And I'm like,
I think he's cracking down on crime, not you know,
cities that are you know, led by African Americans.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
I'm sorry, Okay, So, so which cities has Trump gone into.
Let's see, there's District of Columbia and every Columbia and
the District of Columbia, which is.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
By the way, the district district.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Now, these people are just clowns. I mean, there isn't
one opportunity to falsely cry racism by racists that they
pass up on. And so the mayor of Kansas City
is obviously a racist. I mean that's that's that's what
his world view is colored by anything that you know,
who is he weighing in on? Nobody's talking abut Kansas City.
What cares about Kansas City.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
What'd you say? What did you say?

Speaker 2 (58:52):
His name is Todd Oh Kansas City massive Kansas City
mayors in the headline.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Nobody knows this guy, right, nobody knows this guy trying
to get a name.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Name it's aid Kansas City mayor. And it's like, okay, yeah,
the name I wouldn't know.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
So here's a nobody trying to be somebody and get
his name on the map.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
That's all. Yeah, he's another Jasmine Crockett, you know, another
yapping dog that got nothing to say and just runs
their mouth.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
And whenever President Trump and what a couple of months
ago sent troops into LA, he did so with under
the proper authority, you know, with the National Guard, and
thanks of that nature, and the US troops that went
up from from down in San Diego protected federal buildings,
which was under the jurisdiction of the federal government. They
have every authority to do that. They didn't go out
and do law enforcement or anything like that. They didn't

(59:38):
go out and police that. They freed up law enforcement
so they could.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Police well, you know, you know, honestly, listen, Trump has
the authority to call the National Guard at any time
when there's an emergency, a state of emergency, a disaster,
so on and so forth. But also under Title ten,
Section two fifty three, where he may use the military,
the militia, or by any of the means hospital to
enforce laws when laws are not being enforced by you know,

(01:00:04):
authorities where they're supposed to be enforced, including state laws,
if you read that Title rights.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
That's why I made such a big stink about where
the heck is the federal government when Portland and Seattle
and Chicago and Minneapolis were taken over by rioters and leftists.
That's what I said back then, And and Trump let
us down the first administration. Now he's doing his job.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
He allowed himself to be probabeat by the left, you know,
because he kept attacking them. We are just trying to
use the National Guard to get citizens out there just
peacefully protesting. These people aren't peacefully anything. They're rioting. Yeah,
you had your select ten people that did a speech
for one hour and the next twenty hours were nothing
but full blown riots. You know, this is ridiculousness, and
the law needs to be followed. We need law and
order in this country. And the president has a right

(01:00:47):
to effectuate.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
That right, effectuates.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
That's a good word, right there. Yeah, So apparently that
that murder the other day was the hundred homicide this
year in DC. One hundredth homicide in DC.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Sadly, that's an improvement over last year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Right, Well, then their claims is right, it's going down, right, Wow, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
It's going down. That's still one hundred people murdered.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
And well, I'm just saying, so the Democrats are right,
it's going down.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
So how many was the previous year? How many laves
were saved? We never hear about the life saved.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Well, it's also still higher than it was pre COVID.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
They don't mention that, right, yeah, absolutely, yeah, And the
Democrats have no game planned to lower it at all.
I'm just I'm just scrolling headlines here, and it's all
it's DC, it's Epstein, it's something Trump's doing as Putin,
or it's the Intel investigation. It's like every article that's
essentially what everybody's writing about today is about those things.

(01:01:53):
That's it's weird.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Did you guys get this one?

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Oh, gay guy, I know you were coming with something.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Go ahead, John Marco Rubio Us will label Muslim Brotherhood
a terrorist organization in the process of designated the Muslim
Brotherhood is a terrorist organization, Secretary of State Mark Rubio
said an interview on Tuesday. Yes, I've been kind of
bold enough to say that that. Look, there's peaceful Muslims

(01:02:21):
in the globe, we know it, sure, But when you're
using religion as a tool like this, it's no longer religion.
It's a cult. When you force people to be part
of a religion, when you're going to terrorize people to
be part of religion, when you say you're going to
take over the whole world with a religion, it's not
a religion. It's a cult.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I can agree with you,
especially at that organization. I'm not necessarily saying that the
religion is a cult, but.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
It's being used in a cultis fashion. So Okay, this
sect sector, a faction of this religion is being used as.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
A cult, right right, Sure.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
Yeah, Like I said, I kind of opened it up
with you know, I understand there's peaceful Muslims in the globe.
You know, I'm not noting them, but the Muslim Brotherhood,
these people that are factions that are trying to use
religion in ac cultish fashion, but trying to lean on seeing, well,
we're just exercising our religious rights or religious freedoms or
someone and so forth. It's not it's not that. Actually
it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Well to another topic if I may, yes, absolutely please.
So it seems that Democrats have found their way back
to Texas.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
Some of them. I mean, was it because they couldn't
get a paycheck?

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
I don't know why they went back, but the thirty
day period for the emergency session of the legislature has expired,
and so that's the excuse that they can come back.
So the special question is over special questions over.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
What's to stop the governor from you know, doing another
special session immediately and then call for them to be
rounded up and brought in.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Well, the Republicans promise they wouldn't start another special session
of Friday, but some people think they will. I would.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I'd spring it on them maybe, and like whenever they're
when everybody's in Texas, know exactly where they're at, rest them,
bring them to Austin. Hey, sorry, you're you're you're you're
in session. You're not leaving this room. Well, I think
it's you resign unless you resign your seat. It sounds
like a job for the Texas Rangers. And I'm not
talking about the baseball team. Yeah, they couldn't get that done,

(01:04:21):
but yeah, yeah, the law enforcement armor of the governor
basically right, yep, yeah, very very elite. They can sit
in Walker probably he could do like a quick karate kick.
They be roundhoused and into the estate house in short order.
I think, excuse me, all right, John, what's going on

(01:04:43):
up in New Hampshire. Well, tell us about your governor.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Our previous governor apparently is getting railroaded or railed on
so h there was an article here at New Hampshire
Journal here if anybody hasn't read it yet here in Nashville, Uh,
that's what Maraport Cold Water on Chinese beverage conspiracies. There
never was and never will be a plan to sell
Nashville's water company to a Chinese beverage company. Mayor Jim
Donchas said Tuesday night. So apparently people like even represented

(01:05:13):
Making good Lander and Lily Tank Williams had run for office.
She was running for that seat actually, and I Reacon
claims that non Fu Spring is a Chinese based beverage
company I think the largest in China too. They've bought
some property or water speculated that they bought water rights

(01:05:35):
here in Nashville, and that was under christan Unu was supposedly,
according to Donchis, kristan Unu was pushing for that to
help build the economy here in New Hampshire. I don't
think that makes sense to me. Why would you be
encouraged in Chinese companies and corporations coming to New Hampshire
invest Why don't you encourage companies in the US to

(01:05:56):
be doing that. We got a lot of beverage companies
and stuff. I mean, Nestley is not necessarily a US
based corporation, but they're out of they operate out of
Maine's pulling springs anymore. Right, I just don't understand why
you would be getting in bed to, you know, somebody
like like Sutan. Why was he getting in bed with
China or Chinese companies? A lot of money involved to

(01:06:18):
investment money from a wonder.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Right, A lot of money involved for sure that that's
that's an incentive, right for a lot of people, right.
And then of course they're play it off as if
they're just advising a corporation or something like that, or
making a deal for jobs in our country or whatever,
you know, doing it for the greater good of humanity
or something. But never mind the millions I stopped the way.

(01:06:41):
I'm not saying that's what happened here. I'm just saying,
you know, generically, you know, that's what that's that's how
these people operate. Why why would you not get involved
with China for for that for a lot of money, right,
I mean, that's a lot of people think about it.
You know, I'm not selling out my country because this
is a lot of money. I can do a lot
of good with it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
It's people tell themselves these things. I'm not saying that's
what happened, but you know an idea.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Yeah, No, this is an issue we've talked about that.
Many conservative talk shows have talked about Biden being in
bed with communists China and stuff, and being nothing but
a communist shill or a Chinese communist shill here in
the United States of America, taking their money and pushing
their agenda here are And you see that with the
liberal left. I mean, there is a communist movement going on.
I mean Antifa itself started out in the nineteen thirties

(01:07:29):
as a communist movement and running here in the United
States of America. You hear they say, oh no, it's
not associated. It's not the same Antipha. Of course it's
not the exact same Antifa. But this communists am not
coming out of their mounth Do they not want to
push communism? Call each of the comrade and someone and
so forth. I mean, look, this is how they This
is straight out of the playbook. You create chaos, you

(01:07:50):
create violence, you upset the public and in the public
terms of the government to fix it. Well, we started
this mess the government here again another aster created by
government actors. And so yeah, this is just an overtaking
of the United States of America anymore. It's nonsense. You know,
we need to get out, We need to not get
in bed with these nations anymore. It's like I said

(01:08:12):
before about Saudi Arabia. If Trump's agenda was to take
money from Saudi Arabia, but now we're shutting down the
Epstein investigation. Speculatively speaking on my part, because I think
that may be associated somehow. I'm just pieced that together
on my own. But if we were, I would say
give him the finger and tell them to keep their
six hundred billion dollars. Will make our own way about
it where the United States of America will persevere one

(01:08:32):
way or another. We don't need to be get in
bed with bad actors in the globe.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Yeah again, with six hundred billion dollars, is I can
forget an Epstein list for nearly a trillion dollars? You
know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
Yeah, that's the problem money. You know, Grease is all eels,
doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
I'm just playing devil's advocate every here.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
No, No, you're making a good point. That's That's exactly it.
People will sell their myselves out for money. I mean,
you hear that old saying, you know, he sell his
own mother on the street for a buck, you know,
I mean, you know, it's like some people just have
no integrity anymore. We've lost our moral standards in this country.
And I'm the sort of person I'll walk away from cash.
I just I would rather keep myself intact. I would

(01:09:13):
rather keep my spirit hole. And I don't know why.
And I get confused about that why other people wouldn't.
And I think most of us as Americans think that way.
I think we want to keep our spirit hole. I
think we want to keep ourselves intact. I don't think
we want to sell ourselves out. We get confused about
this because we natively think we base people's standards on
our own standards. If we're good people, we inherently think
other people are good people when they're not. And so

(01:09:34):
when we look at these people in Congress, we always say, oh, well,
you know that that's a good guy. You know, he's
always smiling, laughing, he's got a hand, away your hand,
kiss your baby.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
You're playing you're playing a role. You're playing the role
of the good guy.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Yeah, right, So they just assume they're a good guy.
They never think they could do anything nefarious.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
I mean the photo shook my hand they gave They
gave me a photo of him and signed it. You
know how narcissistic a people people do that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
So, yeah, we just assume people are good. But because
we're good people and you can't do that anymore, you
just you got to be I always say it. I've
said it since the beginning I've been active. Is always
question authority. It doesn't matter. Donald Trump's in charge right now.
He's got a lot of influence, He's got a lot
of power, He's got a lot of poll you should
still question him. You still should questions voters. You show
still questions actions, where he's going with things. Yep, you

(01:10:20):
never know. You know what I'm saying. I mean, I
think the world of the guy. I think he's a
good guy, but he's still in authoritative position. Ben Franklin
said it himself. Power corrupts, right, he says, even himself,
Ben Franklin referred to himself in the first person. Even
if I'm your president, I could be corrupted and work
against you. That's how bad it is. Man. Founders. Founders
even realize they're fallible. They're corruptible.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
And even if let's say, for example, you're not doing
it for greed or monetary you know, McGain or something
like that. Let's just say, for example, you get yourself
in a situation where you know, you feel like your
back's against the wall. You've got to make some sort
of deal that you normally never make. You know, then
to me, to me, you've corrupted yourself because you've allowed
yourself to get be put in that situation. You see

(01:11:06):
what I'm saying. Instead of leaning on other people around
you to assist you in those in those moments.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Yeah, somebody asked, what is a focus on Epstein files? Listen,
there's a lot to be brought out of the for
investigative purposes. Yeah, Epstein's dead. We all know he's dead.
Where well, at least we think he is. But we're
a hundred per cent sure he's dead. Okay, we know
he's dead, but there's a lot to dig into and
for investigations. You know, like Pam Bondi made the statement about, well,

(01:11:32):
you know, the perverb just downloaded online porn. What do
you mean he just got child porn? Yeah, who's porn?
What point? Where did that porn come from? I mean
was he just online, you know, these these dark websites
and being a freak, or were these people that he
was setting up? I mean he was supposed to be
an agent, right, selling information to maybe the Saudiase or

(01:11:53):
some people speculated he was selling it to even Israel
so they would have leverage over our politicians. So what
porn did he download? And chances it was from his
own private cameras. We have a lot to investigate here, right,
So to blow it off and say there's nothing here
to find is ridiculous. And you'd be naive to believe that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Yeah oh yeah, yeah yeah, to say that there was
I mean, how many hard drives they talk about they
had a data on this guy. Videos and you know,
surveillance videos, and now all of a sudden, there's nothing there.
I'm not saying you have to release the videos of
people having sacks or you know, sick stuff like that, Okay,
but you know, if it was going on, you can

(01:12:31):
clearly identify the people involved. You need to put them
in cuffs, get them in a sale, get them in
get them in a courthouse quick.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
You can interrogate these people, right. You knew they were
at the island. What did you see? What did you witness?
Who was there with you? I meant on the chopping block,
What did they do? They sing like canaries everything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
If a person was on the island and the surveillance
showed they were on there, nobody else was with them,
they didn't engage in anything illegal. You can leave them off,
that's fine. I don't have a problem with that. If
you have engaged in some sicko activity, you need to
go after him, put them in coups quick. None of
this nonsense where you allow it to be hidden away

(01:13:08):
in evidence to be destroyed or hidden. No, forget that,
you need to go after him. If Clintons are involved,
go after them.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
So, Pablo, I did I did hear that from Chris?
He thinks there's not a whole lot during the Epstein files.
I know, do you want to weigh in? Chris? You
look like you've been you had thoughts out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
I'm just letting you guys run that story through. It's uh,
I don't get the obsession with Epstein. That's up to
law enforcement. If if people are still being harmed, I'd
get it. You know, you've got to intervene and stop it.
So I don't understand. Also, you know, yet again, where
was this emphasis? Not directed to either of you? But
where is this emphasis concerned? For four years, nobody gave

(01:13:45):
a crap Only when this became a political tool to
attack Trump with none. No, that was none of this
uproar to Biden about releasing these files. Nobody talked about, well, Biden,
maybe he's in the files. Biden's cover up Biden is
you know, we're too busy watching him stumble upstairs every
day on Air Force one. There was none of this
umbrage for four years this information could have been released,
and again a fourth federal judge has refused to unseal

(01:14:09):
grand jury testimony. The Trump administration asked for the grand
jury testimony to be released, they gave what they felt
was compelling reason of public interest, and the judges said no.
So I don't understand the obsession with this. I appreciate it,
but I have a bigger obsession with what's going on
in DC. I don't understand why people whether they're so
obsessed with this. Again, if someone is being hurt, if

(01:14:29):
there's someone in jeopardy, now I get it. But the
culprits are dead or in prison, and there's no one else,
you know, the people who may have committed crimes, then
it's up to the Justice Department. If federal crimes were committed,
it's up to the jurisdictions where the crimes occurred to
do it. If it's local crimes, and those people sleeper
pursuing it. But I mean, I'm more concerned about the

(01:14:51):
arrest and incarceration and conviction of Joe Biden, of his
chief of staff, of the White House, of James Comy,
and of all the people who censored America. I mean, look,
This is a bad thing. This hurts some people and
it's terrible, but the abuse of the constitution hurt the
nation and hurt our reputation, and irrepidly harmed the society.

(01:15:11):
The local sheriffs who went to Alabama drive in movie
theaters and threatened to arrest people for going to a
church service, despite the fact that we're sitting in their
car with the windows up, wearing masks, two carlingks apart,
and the priest wasn't even there, violating the First Amendment
of the Constitution. The federal government colluding with Twitter and
with other social media sites to shut down speech that
they didn't like, a clear violation in the First Amendment,

(01:15:33):
using tech companies as actors as agents of the government
to violate and go around the First Amendment. Not a
single person has been indicted, Not a single person has
been charged with the crime. Not a single person has
been prosecuted. These are serious crimes. I'm not diminishing what
happened with Epstein. What I'm saying is I don't get
the obsession. How about obsession on that because people they
just okay, you know what, they let Japanese Americans be

(01:15:56):
put in concentration camps. Andrew Jackson the reason why you
know the reason why the Democrats use a donkey and
ass as their symbol because people called Andrew Jackson jackass Jackson,
and he owned it. He said, yeah, okay, call me jackass.
It became a symbol Democratic Party and asked what an
appropriate symbol these people but frog march one hundred thousand
Native Americans so they could steal their land. How about

(01:16:18):
this is things we should be upset about.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
Sorry, seen any less of a thing in all of this,
Because you're right, these are valid points. We need to
have investigation on the Russia hole. That's true, that's just
as important. We need to have investigation on collusion to
silence and violated of freedom.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
But I need I need to jump in here real
quick and take up for the donkeys out there. They
do not need to be dinner grated anywhere related to
the Democrats. They are hard working animals. Let me tell you.
They are.

Speaker 4 (01:16:50):
If you if you can keep a carrot in front
of them, keep it moving you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Those jackasses are all right. In my book, I.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Don't agree it being just as important, John, I don't look,
these are crimes that happen every day, and there needs
to be attention focused on the crimes of the federal
government while the federal government gets away this distraction of Epstein.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
If people are.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Concerned, if people are concerned that the Justice Department is
not doing its job, that someone needs to articulate beyond well,
why aren't we knowing what's the cover? I want an
articulation of what the Justice Department should be doing. Is
there a federal crime that they're not prosecuting and pursuing
or investigating. That's my question here. Nobody can articulate that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
I'm not saying there isn't. I'm just saying this is
all just smoking mirrors. How many people actually care about
the victims? Very few. It's just political fodder. And I'm
not accusing my co host of using that because I appreciate.
But what I'm saying is that is that I'm giving tangible,
real violations of the Constitution, our most basic law government officials.
That is far more important than the horrible things that

(01:17:56):
happened to underage miners. I'm sorry, that's just the truth
talked when we.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Talked about politicians being engaged in Epstein, when we talk
about the ability for people politicians. What we have to
investigate that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
We investigate that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
When has it been investigated for the past years, because well,
by the Biden administration, you were counting on the Biden
missing started, yes, and it was turned over to Biden.
It was in his hands with somebody here has expressed
that Biden was more just an ice cream that investigating Epstein.
You know what I mean. Come on, it's true Biden

(01:18:32):
didn't care. Biden didn't care. But when when when Trump?
When Trump deflected the way he did and said there's
nothing there, and Bondie backed him up and said, we're
not investigating. There's a you know, we we've been told
by by by Trump through the campaign. Somebody pointed that
out earlier, that there was something there and he was
going after it. This is human trafficking, man, and it's
hard to and cold to the American people. They were

(01:18:55):
and they wanted to come to an end somehow, and
we thought we saw this as a pathway.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
That's why used during the campaign, though it was used
to basically smoking mirrors, I think as a political tool,
as a political football, if you will, I think it was.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
So, guys, I don't mean to throw water on this
whole thing. But what I want to say is that
if people believe campaign rhetoric will be the actions of
administration that come in. I remember George W. Bush campaigning
as compassionate conservative, A no, not George Herbert Walker Bush,
but George Walker Bush campaigning as a compassionate conservative, as

(01:19:33):
a small government, as a America first America, and where
we've spent too much time going to Rwanda, into Bossi
and all these places under Clinton and Somalia. We need
to be inward facing. And that was his campaign. That's
what he ran on. And then what happened. He came
up with Every Child Left Behind Act, which put government
intrusion into local education and ruined education. He came up

(01:19:54):
with agreements with Kennedy to expand the federal government instead
of reducing it. He came up with teriffs on st
He said he was a free trader. He came up
with tariffs on Canadian soft tim brand ports, none of
which changed the dynamics in the marketplace. So these politicians
make promises. Gre Barack Obama says hope and change. There
was no hope and change. The only thing he did
he said that was true, was he would fundamentally change America,

(01:20:15):
and he did. He put us on trajectory of destruction
and civil discord, which is hell of an accomplishment by
the trees in his clown right.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
But the point is he wasn't talking about you and me.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Well, guys, the thing is I'm saying is that if
people thought that everything that Trump said on the campaign
trail was true, I mean, look, I think he was
saying when he came down the stairs, you know, they're
all criminals. You know. Obviously he wasn't saying all the
legal aliens invade the struture of criminals they are when
they evade the country. But his point, yes, But the
point is that is that this is campaign hyperbole, not

(01:20:46):
everything in the campaign. Now, look, the thing about Trump is, though, honestly,
I guess I could see why people a upset because
promises mate, promises kept. Trump has followed through on virtually
everything he promises campaign, which is unbelievable. It's almost been
never been a president in our living memory who's done that.
He said I'm going to do this and does it.
Trump has done it. This is the one thing he
didn't do well, maybe you shouldn't have harped done this.
I really don't think people vote for Trump to get

(01:21:07):
the Epstein files open. I think they vote on Trump
because we're embarrassed by the national disgrace that Joe Biden
was and the socialist agenda.

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
No, you're right, I mean, but there are a lot
of Americans that put a lot of steak in the
Epstein files. There really were. I've seen it in social media,
and they're highly disappointed because now it's just kind of
being skirted along. But you you got valid points in
many regards. There are a lot of other things that
are equally as important, right in some cases, but human
trafficking is a hard thing to actually turn a blind

(01:21:35):
eye to.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Right, Charles in our comment he's on fire tonight, but
he's the insurrection of the January sixth and yeah, that's
a hard.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Anything, and the fake January sixth Commission. Okay, look, look
saying that there's an obsession with the Epstein files isn't
dismissing human trafficking. I'm on record as one of the
people who's been talking about this year for a long time,
sex trafficking at people. I mean, this is someple effects.
I've told the story of the little Girl, the eleven
year old girl who was kidnapped in broad daylight in
an upscale neighborhood outside of Phoenix and then trafficked and

(01:22:04):
pimped for a week. And the only reason they found
her is because the people wanted the place they took
her to pimp her out. They went there and there
was a deea surveillance operation going on because they were
looking for drug dealers, and they found this girl that
was brought there where these guys were abusing her. And
that's the only reason she was returned and didn't wind
up in a ditch or you know, sent to some
third world country. This is a very real situation, and

(01:22:25):
people think that just happens to Africans, or it just
happens to ties or to Filipinos. It happens to girls
in your neighborhood, black white, all over the country. It happens,
and it's something I've talked about here. So I don't
think that questioning the obsession with with with Epstein diminishes
of commitment or concerned about human trafficking. I've been talking
about this issue for many, many years, and in fact

(01:22:47):
I contributed to the human trafficking reports at the embassies
I worked in about trying to combat this sort of thing.
The problem with human trafficking is that these are well connected,
deeply influential, very powerful, very wealthy, and very entrenched syndicates,
criminal syndicates that operate around the world and sell women,
especially when but boys and girls all sending sexual slavery.
That's not the only FORMU here trafficking, but that is

(01:23:08):
the most peniscuous and one of the most devastating. Yeah,
domestic servitude is a big problem as well. Also for
slabor in India, little minor kids breaking ships apart because
it's too dangerous for people to get inside the places
and tear them apart.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Look Koreans in Russia, well, no, North Korea sent their
their workers to Russia to do work in Russia. You know,
mostly I think lumber and construction work and Russians. I mean,
the North Korean workers are complaining they're being forced to work,

(01:23:43):
and they are so they've actually come out and made
statements against to say, hey, listen, this is abuse.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Yeah, and immediately they were killed the next day probably and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Probably it was said to the Ukraine our spokesperson no
longer for us.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
We love this work that North Korea. They were set
to the Ukrainian Front, right, yeah, grainyad right, yeah, running
that way right, yeah, no, I mean it is look
for some folks. I mean this is like it's like
Hogan's heroes. You know, they're always threatening to send it
to the Russian Front. Well, some people the Russian Front

(01:24:20):
the twenty first century.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
And bring me the caller in John, Oh, all right,
sure thing? Are you their caller? Remember this is a
life terrestrial radio station. That's not just so we got
to be mindful about how we say things.

Speaker 6 (01:24:36):
Please fair enough, Well, well, gentlemen, how you gotta do it?

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Good? How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
What's your name where you've call him from?

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Sir?

Speaker 6 (01:24:43):
My name is Bradam calling from Detroit?

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
Oh all right, Detroit? All right, rock city? Baby?

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
What what's your what's your thoughts for questions?

Speaker 6 (01:24:52):
So I have a top you I will first of all,
I would say, would you guys consider yourselves more right
leaning and the political skill?

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Yeah right, yeah, common sense conservatives, it's in the name.
Yet we're more and more to the right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
We're not right.

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
By the way, I have a topic that I don't
really get. I haven't been seen this. They talked about
very often I want to hear you guys opinion on it.
Uh right, do you believe that Trump is using propaganda?
And it's most basic sense, like, do you think the
propaganda A is being used and B is okay to

(01:25:27):
be used?

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
What specifically are you telling me, just like press press briefings,
that you know that the talent talented narrative that the
that the administration is trying.

Speaker 6 (01:25:37):
To I see a lot about how the democrat like
agenda is somehow more of a threat than the things
that are happening and right now. And I guess maybe
I can put this better.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
Go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:25:52):
Sorry, I didn't exactly prefair.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
You're doing good. Yeah, as long as we don't, we don't.
We try not to curse on this show. We we
forget ourselves sometimes, by the way, So oh.

Speaker 6 (01:26:03):
I'm sorry. Did I no job follow the White House
Instagram account or do you guys check it regularly?

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
I see it occasionally. I don't sit there and scroll
on it every day, but occasionally if something pops up
whenever I'm on there, Uh yeah, I'll look at it.

Speaker 6 (01:26:25):
No, fair enough. I just I saw a post the
other day and I feel that, Well, okay, I'm not
I'm pretty politically active. I would say I'm definitely more
left leaning at this point in my life. But I
just I do agree that I will agree with the
majority of conservative points that the the left heads a
pretty big agenda. They like pushing things and not really

(01:26:47):
explaining why. But if you look at it, you can go,
I know why, you know what I mean. And I
feel that I haven't seen a lot of conservative commentators
talk about the fact that right now the White House
or the very least whoever's running the media accounts is
doing a very similar thing where it's kind of so
like this post that I saw right it's about the

(01:27:07):
stuff that's going on in DC right now. It was
a true social post by written hypothetically by Donald Trump saying, quote, Washington,
d C will be liberated today. Crime, savagery, filth, and
scum will disappear. I will make our capital grade again.
And I saw that and I went, obviously, he's being hyperbolic,

(01:27:29):
but to be hyperbolic, And I guess I want to
ask you guys, if a young you guys say you
don't really follow you know you're not going to scroll
through the Instagram. I'm not gonna blame you, guys, I
don't either. It is popped up. But I'm saying the
people that are willing to scroll through this are usually
young and impressionable. With usually i'd say the younger, you

(01:27:49):
know side of Americans don't really pay attention to everything.
They just see headlines and they form a thing based
on that. Do you think that it's a good thing
for the Official White House Act to be posting statements
like that? Or do you think that it's a bit much?

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
That's a question, that's a fair question. I appreciate the question,
so let me address it. No, I don't think it's
appropriate for official government organs to be posting comments like that.
But truth social account, that's Donald Trump's account, that's it.
I don't know that it's a propeate for him be
doing either. And I agree with you that it's hyperbolic
and unnecessary. There's no need to use that language. All
it has to be done is the truth. But the

(01:28:27):
problem is that the political environment is so polluted that
both sides feel the need to be over the top.
It doesn't justify it. But the bottom line here is
that DC crime is out of control. As we talked
about early in the program, I don't know if you
were listening in the first hour. You know, I go
to DC quite frequently. I'm not very far from there,
and I would say twenty five to forty percent of
the time. Half the time I got to be careful
to get out of the way of law enforcement rushing

(01:28:48):
to a crime scene. It's it's really really problematic, and
in my book, you simply have to tell the truth.
It's like I do a lot of coverage of South
Africa and people are trying to cover up what's happening there,
and people exaggerate and make claims. I heard some nonsense,
say someone claim there are sixty murders a day. Well,
that's just ludicrous, and that doesn't help anything. Just tell
the truth and tell it. And so I appreciate it

(01:29:09):
from it. Sounds like you color want to just hear
the facts and the truth and not the hyperbole.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
And I would agree, yeah, And you're you were spot
on caller for sure. And I agree with the colonel's
words there as well. Yeah, a lot of hygh perperly,
a lot of words they probably shouldn't be used, especially
for a sitting president.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
I'll agree with you. Now, I will add one thing here.
This is a commentary show, and I do like to
use colorful language, not profaned, but coulful language to describe
people on the office side of the political aisle. But
that's allowed. This is a commentary show, not off not
official government. Right.

Speaker 6 (01:29:41):
Yeah, Well, that's where my main issue with this comes from.
I feel that because I would say that I was
definitely more, I would say I was incredibly right leaning
up until and I'm I'm still young. I'm not gonna lie.
I'm not going to pretend like I'm formed. You know,
I'm so wise guy just because I'm in I'm a twenty.
But where I'm at with it is that it's just

(01:30:02):
so much hyperfect, it's so much constant, and I'm not
gonna call it lying because obviously politicians are going to
do this from any side. I'm not going to expect
them to do anything less. It's how our political system runs.
But I think that my biggest issue is that for
his campaign to be well his campaign, are now current

(01:30:23):
presidency of the administration to be constantly trying to have
this moral high ground of like we tell the truth,
they're trying to keep it from you. They're the ones
that are trying to pull the wool over your eyes.
We're the ones that are going to tell it how
it is and say the facts and tell you exactly
what's going on to be using that type of language
or the greatest example of this was during the debate

(01:30:45):
that offhand and commons that Trump are out about the
Haitians eating cats and dogs, obviously hyperbolics saying it. Obviously
not much behind it. He knew that when he said it.
But because his campaign is about for you know, we're
saying the hard, hidden facts, we're giving you the truths
of the uncomfortable truth, they had to double down on it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
And JD.

Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
Vance trying to double down on it and then realizing
that the hole was, you know, they dug a whole
a little too far, and then immediately switching up on
that stance and just pretendingly it didn't happen. That that
kind of hypocrisy is really putting me off of the
second Trump administration. And I honestly, Fellows, and I respect
anyone's opinion. That's what makes America so great and the

(01:31:24):
ability for us to even have this conversation, but I
think I can't take it seriously, and I really don't
understand how hearing this type of language constantly from the
press conferences and from Trump's random, like offhand comments, it
will make towards reporters or for reporters for you know,
like for the thirty second little time that he'll get
at the media of the White House or whatever, just

(01:31:45):
hearing the thing that he says, the thing that he
was saying when Musk was there and about like you know,
gassing up elon Musk. Is this this huge deal and
that he's going to really help everything's going to bring
down coruption just for them to not be very friends.
Now they're not very friends.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
He won't right, right, Well, it's a lot of political
or trust in it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
Is it? Brad? I think it's bread as a caller.
Is that correct? Yes, Brad, rat Listen. I appreciate where
you're coming from, and I certainly don't disagree with it.
But the problem here, of course, is that this comes
from all sides all the time. To be angry at
one side or to change your political views because you're disappointed,
I think it's holding one side to a higher standard
than the other. And you know, I can point out
instances of both sides with you this. I think the

(01:32:30):
key here thing is for people. The key thing here
is for people to be fully informed about things. For instance,
when Trump talks about Doge coming in and cutting two
trillion dollars, I mean, that's just ludicrous. I never believe
that for a second. I said so on this program,
it's impossible. Only eighteen percent of the federal budget is
under the discretion of the executive branch to actually decide

(01:32:50):
where the money goes to.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
The first hundred days you talked about exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
Before he even came in office, is that eighty two percent
of this is nothing they can control unless the laws
are change for Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. And if
those laws are changed, then we can. But that's that's
that's the that's the thing that no one wants to talk.
That's the fifth Rael politics. So to me, hearing that
sort of thing was nonsense. I never believed they were
just going to do that. I said it best they
might be able to find a hundred or two hundred

(01:33:15):
maybe three hundred million dollars of money that's being spent fruitlessly,
but that's going to be about it. And what did
they come in? Around two hundred million and I'm not
trying to crow and say it's correct. My point is
that I tempered my expectations and I drowned out the hyperbole.
And the fight between him and Mosco is just ludicrous,
and that's I tune that out too. That's just that's distraction.
And I guess I appreciate it would be nice if
politicians could just tell the truth. But politicians, you tell

(01:33:38):
the truth like when I ran for office, get railroad
and get slammed by the dirty politics on the other side.
And so I understand why they're doing why they're doing
the hyperbole, but it doesn't excuse me.

Speaker 6 (01:33:48):
I guess my and I totally understand where you're coming
from on that. I actually really appreciate you saying that.
I guess my thing is that, in your guys' opinion,
I seriously the one an answer to this. Do you
think that the moral grand standing of the Republican Party
is taking right now about these things? About like you know,
I mean a lot of discourse they see from conservative
areas online is about the agendas, the agendas, the agendas.

(01:34:11):
They're pushing this in our schools, they're pushing this in
whatever you know what I mean it's all very hyperbolic language,
and I think I guess my question to you guys
about that is, do you think that if because I
agree that it happens from both sides, but if one
side is going to specifically, you know, parade around saying
that they are not doing it or that they are

(01:34:32):
at the very at least better at telling the truth,
only to do the exact same thing, regardless of if
it's just the American you know, it's part of the
American political system or its precedent, do you think that
they should give up this angle because the Epstein Files,
the bacle that we're going through right now is actually
I think it's a great example of them using the

(01:34:52):
start of language and using this whole we tell the truth,
we always tell the truth, or we at least try
to whatever we're better than the let's just say that
right imploding on them because they went a little they
went a little too hard to paint with it. I
think they went a little too crazy in the beginning,
and now they're realizing that they quote unquote have to
follow up on the promise, and.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
They used to, and that's aw argument.

Speaker 6 (01:35:13):
Of the whole things in the first place. But they
told me that they would well have an issue with that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
I think Brad is taught, is stepped right on an
issue that that plays out very well. I think Brad,
you've particulated very well. The problem. This was played up
during the campaign. At least people that wanted to hear
this heard this. That's they focus on. I ignored it.
I listened to Trump when he said he was going
to bring tariffs, and I bought my laptop on November eighth.

Speaker 6 (01:35:36):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
Before the place of bikers went up so so so
because I knew that was coming, but I didn't. I
didn't I didn't pay attention to Epstein thing. But I
think Brad, you're spot on that this was played up.
But you know, Bill Aginghall said something, Brad. I know
you're a young guy, but maybe you know who Bill
Ingvall is. You know, stupid people who wear signs. And
I'm saying, you know, my point here is that people
out of power think they can do certain things when

(01:35:58):
they come in power. They get in power and they
find out that they're maybe not able to do that,
or maybe what they expected was there wasn't there, and
they should have just been honest with people and then
they should not have pushed this. So I agree with you,
but I will come back to one point, Brad, and
push back about one thing, and that's when you talk
about the hyperbolea about people being proven wrong. We could
just go to the issue right now about redistricting. Subbly,

(01:36:19):
Americans discovered the term jerrymandering, something I learned in the
Civics course decades ago. You know, the Democrats running off
to Illinois to complain about Texas redistricting in the middle
of a decade after the census and saying it's unjust.
When you look at the facts and you look at
where they went, it's just comical to say the least

(01:36:40):
they went to a state in which you know, it's
almost even, it's fifty four to forty or fifty six
to forty two, something like that. Voter turn out for
Republican Democrat, and the Democrats greatly outweigh the Republicans because
the way the redistrict and Jerry Mariager Maryland used to
have a balance with Fouri and four Democrats for Republicans.
The percentage of people voting Democratic Republican hasn't changed, but
what has changed is the redistrict and there's only one Republican.

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The state of Pennsylvania. During the election a few years
ago overturned the redistrict thing that had taken place several
years prior, nine months before an election, after candidates had
already run in a district, they were no longer a
candidate because the bounties were changed, wasting their time and
money and resources, and as a consequence, Democrats now have
a balanced representation. The Pennsylvania delegation goes to Washington. That

(01:37:25):
one state changing swung the House from Republican to Democrat
in one election. So my point here is that the
hypocrisy is all over. The problem is you've just got
a way through the nonsense, and Brad, it sounds like
you're a thoughtful person. You're paying attention. My recommendation is,
wherever you find yourself and you believe you're on in
the political spectrum, left right or center, just drowned out

(01:37:45):
the nonsense and focus on the real issues and hold
them to a standard. That's what you're trying to do.
You expect them to tell the truth, but I expect
both sides to tell the truth, and both of them
are prone to hyperbole, and I wish they wouldn't do it.
But it's a fact of politics. It's always been the case.
I mean, we have a center and nearly beaten to
death on the floor of the Senate in eighteen sixty.
Is this politic?

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Brad, any final thoughts real quick before we.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
Let you go.

Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
No, Actually, I really appreciate it. If I could say
one last thing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Yeah, go ahead and call in any time.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
By the way.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
Oh yeah, unless you Bob a movie is here.

Speaker 6 (01:38:19):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
Do you.

Speaker 5 (01:38:24):
Do you think that there's any amount of hyperbolege that
would cause you to kind of, I don't know, for
lack of a better for just to be one to
lose support. Do you think that if the subs final
thing doesn't work out or something else comes up and
they have to cover it up pretty quickly, they do
it pretty messily. Do you think that that would Obviously

(01:38:44):
it depends on the case, But do you think that
there's anything that could happen that would make you not
necessarily be able to wade through the unsense for you
to have to look up at it and go, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
This is Oh I can imagine that. I can imagine
I sure, and I'm a regular. We'd call out the
Trump administration on this show quite quite regular whenever we
think that we disagree with them, Well, I.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Can give you an incensor here. Very clearly. During the
Bush administration, he campaigned. I voted for him as a
common sense conservative. That's, you know, a a A. He
said that he was going to keep government small, he
was going to focus on America, and he was going
to do all these different things, And the moment he
started doing things completely opposite, and I'm like, wait a second.
Unfortunately I was in the political realm. I was serving
military officers, so I couldn't speak out publicly, but I spoke.

(01:39:27):
I spoke privately about it and vociferously, and I've talked
about it and I've mentioned it many times since then.
You know, it's uh, when when when our politicians promised
one thing to delivered something else. Trump and this first
administration promised to build a wall.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Never got the wall built. I called that out repeatedly.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
He also left insurrection to take place in Seattle. In Seattle,
they created Chess the Capitol Hill autonomous in which they
they abrogated the authority of the federal government. That's an
insurrection and Trump did nothing to stop it. People were
murdered there. They segregated their little society where only black
people can, only white people go. It's allidicrous. That was
an actual insurrection in Seattle, and Trump did nothing about it.

(01:40:04):
I castigated him on this program while we were on
I think we were on Facebook then.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Right, just on Facebook. I think that was the first
few shows.

Speaker 5 (01:40:12):
Yeah, yeah, that was much Yeah, no, I mean throwing off.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
We appreciate your calling and you call in anytime. We
love having people call in, and especially thoughtful folks like yourself, sir.

Speaker 6 (01:40:26):
All right, sounds good.

Speaker 5 (01:40:26):
Thank you for tom going to.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
Take care of brother. Oh good, great, great call right there.
We love it when people call in and are thoughtful
that that have, you know, their their own ideas of
how things are. And it seems to be, you know,
a little on the left, but that's perfectly fine. He
wants to deal in facts and reality, which keeps anybody
from being too far left or too far right. Whenever
you deal with facts and reality keeps you right in
that humble zone.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
I think I see John. I warned you about this.
In the Motor City. People are listening, man. You gotta
be careful what you say. City.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Maybe that's what I call it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
I don't think it's anything bad about Detroit. I might
have it one time or another.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
Watch a Tigers game at some point.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
Never been to a Tiger's game. Well, I've been to
Tiger's game at Camden Yards, but never been a Tiger's
game in Detroit. I have been to old Komisky Park.
I was there before they destroyed it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
Just go inferno when they burned the records.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
No, no, I was. I went. I went, and you know,
they had obstructive views of those darn columns that were blocking.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
It was a horrible park. But it was so old
it was cool.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
So that's a pretty dangerous neighborhood. I drove to Komiski Park.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
Yeah, I've seen it. I saw it off in the
distance before, but I've never I've never been to it.
I've been to the new the new park, and been
a couple of games there, but that's about it. So yeah, good, good,
good times though I've had there. But you know, but
as soon as the game's over, I get right on
the train and get out. That's not my neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
But you know, Brad Brays is a very interesting question,
and I think it's a fair one as we get
away from hyperbole for a second. Here the problem. And
I didn't want to go into this because you know,
I give answer Brad a chance to get his questions
out of here. They're very good questions. But I mean,
I've talked about this before. Nancy Pelosi abusing her position
to Speaker of the House Representatives lying about the Trump
administration during his first administration, falsely claiming that he banned
three hundred and fifty million people of color from coming

(01:42:13):
to America. A total fabrication, a total lie, and the
press ran with it. They just ran with it. It's
like the whole situation now where the press is running
around about Trump and South Afka, Trump pushing a genocide
narrative in South Africa's human rights report genocide. There's no
mention of genocide and humor Right's report, but the media
is still saying it. Trump when he was at the
Oval office in May and Rama pose a visit and
the issue came up. It was a planted question they

(01:42:35):
tried to bearss Trump and the South Afboorda said, mister President,
do you still believe this is a white genocide in
South Africa? And Trump's response was, I'm not convinced of that.
I mean, how much clearer could that be? And what
does it come out in the press? Trump lectures rama
pose about a fake white genocide, it's still going on. See,
it doesn't matter, you know, even if if the politicians

(01:42:55):
are honest, the media will use hyperbole to get clicks,
to get attention. And of course, and that's one of
the reasons why I have so many viewers is because
I call out that bogus nonsense. Right, it's you know,
it's if you're going to pretend you're a news organization
but then put opinion into a news article, you're not
a news organization. You're fake news, you're fraudent. That's yellow journalism.
You know. Trump Trump is much more famous and much

(01:43:18):
more famous and much more as greater reachs than I'll
ever have, But he started calling it fake news. And
when he said that, I said, no, it's not fake news.
It's yellow journalism. That's the phrase we coined in Spanish
American ward leading us into a brief and sad pathetic
imperial period for this country in which we tried to
become an empire, and thankfully we stepped away from that
courtesy of the First World War. But no, look, it's

(01:43:39):
it's yellow journalism. And if it's if the politicians tell
the truth, they just get into dated and swamp and frankly,
to go back to Brad's point, I sent Brad's still listening.
I think that's one of the reasons why politicians are
hyperbolic and while they say things over the top, because
it's the only way to get above the din of
what things are being reported.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Right, absolutely, yeah, you got to have that headline and
that first lead in paragraphs, gotta grab that reader. And
then if you read a little bit further down toward
the bottom, usually it's the facts of Oh what we
said in the first paragraph and in the headline wasn't
quite true. But you've read this far. I guess what
the advertising dollars was worth it, you know what I'm saying, right,
So watching clicks, we got your eyeballs in the.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
Pennsylvania legislature race last year, which I wasted my time
and my own money. No it's not all right. I
could use that money today, but no, But in that
race that I ran. You know, we have five of
us running the Republican primary, and one of our opponents
was you know, he was a he was a chameleon.
We go to one place, suddenly he's a devout Christian.

(01:44:40):
Maybe he is, but that's not what he brings up
the next place. He tailored his message. If it was true, okay,
but much of what he said was nonsense. For instance,
I was striking a chord because people respect veterans around
here mentally. And my advertisements talked about being a leader,
a soldier, you know, an educator. And suddenly his ads
started mimicking after I started gaining traction, and he served

(01:45:03):
in the basic training and that was put out before
he finished basic training the Air Force, and suddenly he
started claiming he was a veteran, and he put he
only had one photograph of him in basic training, and
suddenly that became a big part of his campaign about
how and he started wearing an Air Force cap. You know,
you know, none of that was ever present, That wasn't
part of his campaign. That wasn't who he was the beginning,
and and and the point is that this guy kept

(01:45:24):
changing for every audience, and I just can't do that.
I can't be dishonest. I'm a very complicated person, very
complex person with lots of different interests and lots of
different things I've done in life, and not everything comes
up at the beginning, but it's all there. There's a
track record. This guy there was no track record, and
he was just playing to the crowd. That's what politicians do.
And I think maybe that's where Brad was going with this, too,
is playing to the crowd. It's it's it's very off

(01:45:47):
putting if you really care, and I think maybe that's
where Brad was coming from. At least speak for you, Brad.
But I hope I got there right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:52):
So somebody, if your opponent was related to Kamala Her
or so, I'm assuming they mean that he develops in
Georgia while getting a Midwestern accent out there.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
They're all guilty of this. I mean, now, to be fair,
I'll be straight up about this. One of the problems
there were challenges I had in life. I've been very
good at adapting as I got older. Is that because
I moved so much as a kid, and I was
always the outsider. I went to so many different elementary
schools and junior high schools. And we're talking for thirty plus,
living in thirty some states, moving all the time, I
was always a new kid, the young kid, the skinny kid,
the outcast. I had to adapt, and I just naturally

(01:46:25):
found the ability to become a chameleon and adapt the
same mannerisms and accents without even realizing it. So I
have to be very careful because I hang around people
a certain accent. I'll like slide right into that, you.

Speaker 4 (01:46:35):
Know, but there yours isn't intentional. You were a kid
trying to fit.

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
In, right, But as an adult, I have to be
careful because people think you're mocking them if you're not careful.
And I realized this a long time ago. So like,
when I go to Maryland and I hang out with
my aunts and uncles, there aren't many of them left,
by the way, but there used to be twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
Of them over Maryland.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
Right, yeah, Maryland, Maryland, Balmart within fifteen or twenty minutes.
I sound like I'm front there, not from there. I
was born there, I lived there, but and it's the
same thing. And go other places, and so like, when
I talked to South Africans, I used the vernacular the
South Africans used, and un fortunately they don't think I'm
mocking them. But I don't say a traffic light, they
call it a robot. Yeah, they call a traffic light

(01:47:13):
a robot. Guy where that came from. But when when
I'm in UK, I in the UK, I don't say
in the hospital. That's what I say in American, But
they say in the hospital. They dropped the article and
I talk about roundabouts and this, you know, so I
use it for an actor. And but my point is
that it's very easy to to for me to do that,

(01:47:35):
so I'd be careful. But these politicians are so fake.
Hillary Clinton suddenly got this southern drawl, and the same
with Barack Obama. You know, he's talking to his people.
Oh please, these people are so fake. They're so fake.
But I'm not fake. That's actually who I am. I
used to live in the hood. I used to live
in in housing projects, and you know, use that for
an actor and spoke that way. So for me actually

(01:47:56):
having in this Midwest accent in some ways, it's kind
of it's not intentional who I am. But for some
of them, I think it's the front. Yeah, you know,
I grew up with you. That's how he used to talk,
you knows and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
That's what they do. They learn when when people are
trying to sell something to somebody, They're going to try
to pick up some of their mannerisms and imitate those mannerisms.
Because when people see that, they start to develop a
trust for you. Right, they don't really they don't get
offended as much as they start liking people because they
identify with them. Right, So don't trust your local salesman. Guys.
You got to pay attention.

Speaker 2 (01:48:29):
Right, It's like it's like you definitely are not from here, salesman.
But he has the accident, he got it down, he's
got the manurisms. Yeah, I've already got three vacuum cleaners.
You're not gonna give me a four time buddy.

Speaker 4 (01:48:41):
There he's in his fifth one back into the house.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
And he's like, I almost had you. That's gotta be
a tough life.

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
Can you imagine being a door to door salesman and
having them commissions?

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
You have to have your face repetitively.

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
Yeah, you have to be entertaining to be able to
be able to make a living that way.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
And I mean I ran for political office and I
knocked on at least three thousand doors. Fortunately, it's maybe
that's why my hip is messed up now because but
but you know, I knocked at three thousand doors. It's
not a pleasant experience, you know, I you know, it's
it's it's first, it's it's it's not a fun thing
to knock on someone's sort of disturb their day. I mean,
that's that's just not my nature. But you do it
because you have to. And then you know, you most

(01:49:20):
people are pretty cool, and what you get those people
are just just terrible, terrible ter.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
You get some people that want to just go off
on you because it's like you're in my driveway or
you're on my porch, you're running for office, whether you're
in office or not, is besides the point. I get
an opportunity to go off on somebody. Some people just
want to let loose on you. And it's like, hey,
I'm not the guy in office. I'm trying to replace him.
You know, let's how about you let him know that
or her know that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
You know what I'm saying, yeah, one hundred percent. And
it's just look, so I've had my my my taste
of politics, and I didn't like it. And unless you know,
some political party comes in with a lot of backing
and and something I don't think I'll ever run again,
because it's just, it's just it was too off funny.
I understand now why people with good morals and good
character so seldom run for political office because it's very distasteful.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
Well, this is what Nixon said in sixty two. Then
what happened to him in sixty eight he became president.
So be careful with that statement.

Speaker 3 (01:50:12):
I seriously doubt that in twenty thirty two I'll become president.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
No, I'm saying what I'm saying, you may actually be
into some office you'd never know. I mean it could
be you know, local state senate.

Speaker 3 (01:50:22):
Whatever you do.

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
Don't say never here, I have I've heard that. I'm
just saying I've actually heard people say, listen, before i'd
run for an office again, even a state office. I
want to have one hundred thousand dollars in the coffers.
That sounds like a huge amount of money. Well, when
you're running, it takes a lot of money to win,
even local politicians.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
I might be able to raise that here.

Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
Well, folks, I mean for the state legislature in a
reliably conservative And that's why it happened. Because if you
win the primary, you're going to win the general election
in this district because it's two thirds Republican. If you're
running his Republican's there's no chance. I mean you can
probably walk down the street and shoot people and still
get elected. I mean that's that kind of thing. Uh yeah,
he's exercise Second Amendment rights, you know. No, but seriously,

(01:51:04):
so we had one candidate who spent about one hundred
thousand dollars. Another candidate spent at least sixty or eighty
thousand dollars. I spent twenty two thousand dollars. Another person
spent eight thousand dollars. Oh, that's the end of the show, folks.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
We'll see you next week seven or nineties and right
here WSN and fifty nine. Ayame nine if I port
three FM, take care, God blessed, see you then