The Common Sense Conservatives

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters every Wednesday
evening from seven to eight pm right here on WSMN
fifteen ninety AM, WUSMN ninety five point three FM and
streaming live on WUSMN dot Live. Making sense of the
inverted reality we are subject to every day, The Common

(00:24):
Sense Conservatives are here to help bring me back to reality.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Your hosts, Chris Wyatt, Todd McKinley, and John Golvin.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Common Conservatives right here
WSMN fifteen ninety WSMN ninety five point three on your
FM dial. I really just don't even know how to
open the show tonight. Oh, this is the nuttiest thing
we've seen in quite a while. I'm sure everybody's heard that,
at thirty one years of age, Charlie Kirk has passed

(00:54):
away because he was shot at an event. And I
hope you folks out there listening willin me when I
say this changes nothing. We as conservatives will always cling
to our guns. We will not back down, and it's
very disheartening to see something like this happen.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Todd, what do you think, no, you're you're absolutely correct.
You know, it's one of those things like you know
the left say sits there and then they cry guns
and you know, gun violence, and that they go out
and commit gun violence to shut somebody who's just merely
talking using words to discuss gun violence.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
You know, amongst other things.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
You can disagree with somebody, and you can vehemently disagree,
but you don't go shoot them in the face just
because they're they're saying something you don't like. Say something
better that than that they're saying. You know what I'm saying.
Counter them with with with a different argument, Counter them
with facts or logic, convince people that you're right there wrong.
Don't go shoot them in the face in some vain
attempt to win people over or whatever the hell you're thinking.

(01:52):
It's not gonna work.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I agree. It takes a week man of a lesser
standard to do such a thing. You know, you didn't
have the who needs to stand up and speak? Chris?
How's it going? Brother? What do you think?

Speaker 5 (02:03):
It just reminds us how dangerous these people truly are.
They tried to murder Republican congressman at a baseball practice
horrifically injuring Steve Scalise, altering his life forever. They tried
to beat Ran Paul to death with a hammer at
the door of his home. They tried to cause Josh
Hawley's nine month pregnant wife to miscarry by beating on

(02:24):
her door and threatening her when he was in Missouri
on an election campaign. They attempted to murder Donald Trump
twice that we know about publicly, and I suspect three
other times that we haven't been informed about based on
the way events unfolded. And they've now murdered Charlie Kirk.
Why because Charlie Kirk was a threat? Why was he
threat because his ideology? No, he's actually, you know, right

(02:45):
of center, but not far to the right. Charlie Kirk
engaged people, He asked people to engage him in debates,
and that made him a threat because his debates were convincing.
And while I wasn't a Charlie Kirk fan, I respected
him immenseally. The reason I wasn't a fanus because to me,
turning point, USA really didn't care about anybody unless under
the age of thirty. And I'm sorry, but I'm a
little past that. Timeline then passed myself by date, sir.

(03:09):
But Charlie Kirk engaged people and therefore he was a
threat because he changed minds with his convincing arguments. This
made no mistake. And as the Governor, Spencer Cox of
Utah stated, and I've been saying since earlier this evening,
make no mistake, this was a political assassination. No matter
what poppycock we come here coming out of authorities. This
was a political murder. And what is shocking about this

(03:31):
is that if you had the misfortune of seeing the video,
which many people have seen, the actual moment, I was
shocked to hear that he was still alive, because that
was something strict right out of a horror film where
they talk about how you sliced, you know, and just
I mean, he must have lost a gallon of blood
in a matter of seconds. It's a miracle that got

(03:52):
into the hospital alive. It's his tragedy for his family,
it is a tragedy for the nation, this political violence.
We just had two politicians, or these politicians attacked in
Minnesota who are Democrats. Gabby Gifference was shot in Arizona.
A few years back. We had Lee Zelden attacked at
a political event by these lunatics. This is something that
seriously needs to be addressed in this country. And I'm

(04:14):
not talking about Second Amendment rights being taken away. I'm
talking about dealing with deranged people or people who have
dangerous views. Instead of letting murderers back on the street
and rapists back on the street, and fourteen time convicted
felons back on the street to murder Ukrainian refugees, and
instead of lying about the crime in this country, who's
committing And it's time to start telling the truth in

(04:35):
this country. And that starts with the federal investigation, not
doctor and statistics, and working all the way down local
law enforcement.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Let's get with it. This is the Again.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
I'm not a huge fan or supporter of Charlie Kirk,
although I respected his work immensely. But demand is now martyr,
and this I am concerned will spark additional violence. I
have concerns that that's going to happen. Although conservatives don't
typically turn to violence, that doesn't mean y'at who's out there.
And this is a tragedy of epic proportions. Country has

(05:05):
been robbed of a brilliant oratory orator and a fantastic debater,
the likes of which we haven't seen come very often.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
It's sad to see Todd. No, you're absolutely correct.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, and I was trying to figure out a way
to express it yet, And that's true. I didn't really
support Charlie for some reasons, because you know, I'm slightly
over thirty, and I'm ignored amongst that group, you know,
and it's like, you want to talk about bringing people together,
Let's bring every American together, all walks of life, every
age and all that.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
And yeah, you're right, he did.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
His organization especially ignored that. But other than the fact
that he was out there, you know, talking about things
he believed in a lot of things. I agreed with
him on for sure, in a lot of the theories I
subscribe to. But anyway, he didn't deserve that to get
shot in the neck. I mean, while just sitting there
having a conversation. If you don't like it, just leave, don't.
You don't have to listen to it. Hold another another organization,

(05:59):
hold a different protests across campus, holding a competing event,
you know, try to get people there. I dare say,
you probably only have a fraction of what he had,
maybe just to be able to fill uprom a front
row compared to.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
What he had.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
And that scared people because he actually engaged people. He
made them think, and he actually made people. I don't
see made people, but he inspired people to go out
on the campuses and actually speak their mind versus just
remaining silent, which we've seen for decades upon decades on
college campuses.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Well, Todd, sorry to interrupt your job, but touch you know,
it's it's I've seen just how dangerous these these people
are when they went after Milo a few years back
and opened a Gay Republican and they tried to bar
him from being UC Berkeley.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
I mean, absolutely insane. The behavior of this peace and
love and kumbaya and everybody's welcome. It's a big test.
It's not a big test if you'd say anything that's
off their reservation. And and and they don't. They don't
want to argue, they don't want to debate you. They
want to kill you. They want to eliminate you. They
want to drive you into the sea. And we see
tonight interesting. Gavin Newsom offered his condolence, so the little

(07:01):
Torp Harry System and a couple other Democrats, but all
of them are almost verbat him. It's almost as if
someone set them talking points in the really sick and
then we see the Ghuls just jumping for joy and
dancing when they found out that he was shot. I've
seen horrific contact on conduct on MSNBC on BBC because
I'm over here.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
It's just right.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
I've got a bunch of notes here to go through.
John hope we can get through them in this hour.
Whil'd with you guys?

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Oh absolutely, man, bringing on, Uh no, you guys, you
guys are absolutely right in what you're saying, you know,
Charlie Crook. The thing about it is is, yes, he
was thirty and undergroup and we needed that. We needed
that kind of dynamics because so he that was his
niche and I loved them for it because we needed
the dynamics to usher in the younger card. Yeah, we
got a young Republicans groups and things like that, and

(07:47):
there's a lot of nice things that people are doing.
But he was a.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Fight and they knew it.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
He was a threat to them and that's why this happened.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
No, my my issue and it wasn't that what he
was necessarily talking about or inspiring young people to get involved,
which I enjoy that.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know, when I ran for Congress, I specifically went
out to the younger kids on college campus and talk
to them, try to try to get them to come
out and help support me, you know, and they were
actually overlooked, you know. And that was about the time
twenty eighteen, a little bit before then, whenever the Charlie
Kirks thing was really getting hot, right during the twenty
sixteen campaign and onward. So a lot of those guys
actually came out and did support me and help me

(08:24):
to a degree, which I truly appreciate.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
But you know, you.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
See in recent years, you know, I go to political
events and you see some of the folks inspired by
that organization that come out and say that they kind
of ignore the older people, and it's like they want
to just focus on I'm right and this is how
we're going to do it in a scream really loud.
It's like, wait a minute, that's not what Charlie Kirk
was about. He wasn't coming out yelling at people and

(08:47):
telling them why they're right. He's come out and just
had a nice calm to meet her and said, here
is the facts. Here, here's my issue, and here's my approach,
and here's my thoughts on it. We don't need to
actually yell at one another and create infighting to be
a leader within the Conservative Republican Party. And a few
folks I've had run ins with that were kind of
wanting to just be firebrands. But on the right, like

(09:08):
the left is, you know, they're they're out firebranding. It's like,
let's have common sense dialogue, not yelling at one another's.
So I did have a few issues with some individuals.
Maybe that was my pushback from that organization, but on
the whole, I do agree with what you had to say, Colonel.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
Well, you know, again, when I was interested in working
with turning point to when they came around, trying to
give them some advice and mentor them as a person
that spent decades you know, in the sidelines but working politics.
You know, I obviously can't do certain things in the uniform,
but I've been running political campaigns back when I was
seventeen as a young Republican in college. But you know,
I tried to contact them and they just kind of
blew me off. As an organization, and I said to them,

(09:47):
I said, well, maybe you should watch the movie Logan's.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Run right right.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
If you think you think that only people under thirty,
you too will be thirty one day, So keep that
in mind.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
It's funny.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
The guy at the Capitol kind of and reminded me
of you whenever you had your longer beard, you know,
with all the books and stuff.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
That's kind of like you.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yeah, that was Peter Ustinoff. Yeah yeah, so John my
comments here just a few things. So shortly after four pm,
sixteen hundred this afternoon, the House of Representatives I was
called to order to ask for a moment of prayer
and memory of Charlie Clerk. The Chirk Democrats got up
and objected to it. These are ghoulish, sick people. And

(10:29):
then on MSNBC Matthew Dowd said that when you spew hatred,
I'd never heard Charlie kirkspew any hatred. He had positions
that people didn't like. And that doesn't mean he's hateful.
That just means that they're they're perverted, you know, nonsense.
It's not something he believed. And he is a devout
Christian and a father, and he said that Matthew Dale
tried to say when it first happened, we don't know
if this was one of the supporters shooting a gun

(10:51):
and celebration.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
What celebration. Yeah, he said, well that there was trying
to be a smart alec.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
He said, we don't know if it's just not a
supporter shooting off their gun in celebration. I mean, these
people are sick. ABSNBC should be banned from the airwaves.
It's not a media outlet, it's a hate speech center anyway.
So he so doubt went on to say he's been
one of the most divisive figures pushing hate speech. No,
that's not true, saying awful words and not expect any consequences.

(11:20):
The fact that he has a position that the American
Medical Association American Psychological Association was in agreement with until
recently when they became woke, doesn't mean he's spread hate speech.
It's Thomas specifically a issue on transgender. Also, the BBC
here in England said some vile things they had a
commentator on and said, well he wasn't loved. Did you
see the footage of the crowd when he whipped up

(11:41):
the crowd? And also on our news broadcast at the
top of the hour. They were misleading the public. There
were thousands of supporters there. There weren't hundreds. There were
hundreds immediately around him. There were thousands. I counted several
thousand people there. So today I watched the press conference
a short while ago today twelve twenty Mountain standard time,
Charlie Kirk was shot at Utah Valley University and he

(12:04):
was taken to a hospital where he later passed away.
The tilla remains at large. George Zin was arrested and
people thought he was a suspect. He was incorrect suspect,
but he is in jail for obstruction of justice because
he interfered with police and I think falsely claimed he
was a shooter or something like that. One shot one victim,
Charlie Kirk. This was a targeted attech. The FBI said

(12:25):
their condolences to the family and friends and to those
who had to witness horrific situation. The Salt Lake Field
Office responded immediately from the FBI with tactical, investigative and
intelligence assets on the ground and the tip line is coming.
The FBI said they were shock and sund by the shooting.
Governor Spencer Cox of Utah was on the scene for
the press conference. He said, it's a dark day for
our state and a tragedy day for our nation. I

(12:47):
want to make clear this is a political assassination, which
is what I said from.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
The moment that I saw.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
We are celebrating tour at fifty years of American history,
and he asked the question, is this where we are
after turn at fifty years?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
He said, today a life was taken. Charlie Kirk was
first and foremost a husband and the dad the two children.
He believed in the power free speech and debate, and
that's why I think people should respect him. Excuse me,
he debate. I'm not choked up for that. I'm just
I got a little built up here. But Charlie debates,
and that's foundational to our nation. To whoever did this,

(13:19):
Governor Cox said, we will find you, we will try
you and hold you to account. And I want to
remind people that we still have the death Pemley in Utah. Oh.
I loved hearing that sentence. I love hearing it. This
is a you know, as I said, we've had these
plitical assassinations in Minnesota. The attempt assassination of Pennsylvania's Governor
Josh Shapiro by burning down the mancher easily, the tempt
assassination style Trump, the attempted murder of Ram Paul the

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baseball game, plus Gabby Gifford.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
You know, uh, he said, I don't care what his
politics are. I care that Charlie Kirk was an American.
And the FBI said that the police they do have
a personal interest in custody. That's not the gentleman they
arrest initially. There's another person who's a person of interest
in custody at this hour. The only thing they have
for evidence as far as CCTV, and of course you
know that's not always the best. And the individual that

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they believe is a shooter was dressed in all dark clothing.
When asked, the campus police captain said that we had
officers on duty. Six officers were present, plus Plain closed
police officers from the campus police were on campus in
the crowd, and Charlotte Kirk security team, which as I recall,
had eight people in it. Those kind of comments of
press conference, but the biggest development there was that they
do have a person in custody and they would not

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reveal anymore a person of interest, whether that's a shooter
or someone ate of the shooter. They don't They didn't say,
but we don't know. So there's a lot of concern
on the Utah Valley campus right now because they don't
know if the shooter's been captured. Go ahead to Todd,
I interrupt you there.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Oh no, no, no, yeah, I know you talked about
the gentleman who who was arrested for obstruction claiming he
was a shooter. Leads me to believe it is there
more than just the long gunman here. Is there some
sort of conspiracy to try to hide the person who
did it so they can get away.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Maybe I'm not sure. Well, we still don know anything
about the attempted murderer or the guy tried to murder
Trump last year in Butler. We still don't know that,
you know.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
And we had supposedly the best law enforcement agencies in
the world in the Secret Service, atf and the FBI,
and we still don't know anything. What about the guy
in Florida who tried to murder Trump at the golf course,
We know nothing about that. But boy, we know everything
about Daniel Penny, who was innocent and killed nobody on
the subway in New York when he saved people's lives
using deadly force.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Right, yeah, absolutely, they want to put him on trial
form merely putting a guy in Choco who was trying
to kill people. You know, he saved lives in the USA,
he's a murderer.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
And they put him on trial, put him in pre
trock confinement. This is Sixth City. Yep.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, some people, some people. The comments are pointing towards Antifa.
Oh and somebody saying if Antifa, if Antifa, they need
to be finally officially categorized as domestic terrorists. Were they
not already?

Speaker 5 (15:51):
I thought, well, I don't know if Antifa has been claigorized,
but we have to be very careful about who we blame.
People are blaming leftist, people are blaming trans people are
blaming democrats.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
We don't know who this is right now.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
It could very well be you know, I don't know,
a disgruntled you know, former turning point. But I'm not
saying that we don't.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Work clearly, they were just suggesting it, but yeah, you're right, right.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm just saying we need
to not jump to conclusions.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Because people look jumped at conclusions then often looked foolish.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
I mean, there was a very good CNN reporter back
in the nineteen nineties who went to Oklahoma City and
he was there and he went to this he was
in town for something else, and he went to the
convention center across the street and all these Jihadis were
in there selling how to make bombs, how to kill Christians,
how to become a martyr, all these videos on DVDs

(16:35):
and and VHS tapes back and he did a story
at CNN and he became pretty famous. Kenny's name right now.
I actually met him and I went to a briefing
he did once upon a time. But then when the
the was it this was before the Oklahoma City when
the Oklahoma City bombing or something like that, he jumped
on and said, this has all the hallmarks of an
Islamic terrace. And it turned out to be you know,

(16:56):
a white boy from the United States, remember that, right,
the Olahoma City body.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Nichols and McVay, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah, Timothy McVeigh. So so he and everyone else. But
then his credibility was destroyed, even though he's very good
journalist because he jumped the gun. Uh so before we
say who it is. This is why I'm very circumspective.
I start laying the blame until we have some more evidence.
You know, when they grab the old guy, people start saying,
look at that as a typical lefty. Uh, he's not
even the guy that did it. So let's let's wait
and see and find out who's responsible for it. But

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what I can say, well, that's why I said when
these people and I you noticed I talked about political
assassinations of Republicans and Democrats, not just Republicans, but but yeah,
clearly there are people who cannot handle debate and their
response is violence.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
And this is what we have, right.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
The same person with I mean, as much as we
disliked Obama, we wouldn't wish such a no will, As
much as we didn't like Biden, we wouldn't wish such
a no will. That's just rational behavior.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
No, No, I want both of them to serve prison time.
Why would I want them to dead? Right?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Right? We want them to want to purple walk.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
I want to see them, you know, as as that
gamble fall, then they get sentenced.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
I'd love to see that.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
The point is none of us would none of us
would insanely wish it will on him like that.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
That's just no, no, of course not.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
What I want to see is Joe Biden being led
away in handcuffs as classified documents fall out of his pants.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Right, yeah, any trips going up some stairs, right yeah?

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Anyway, But but guys, did I don't know, did either
of you see the video?

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yes, it was disgusting. It wasous one to hit him
and he was bleeding out. It was it was I'm
going to get But.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeah, now that he's passed, I mean at the time,
I didn't want to say because I didn't want to
frighten people or you know, or or champ down hope.
But there is no way he could have survived that.
I now that kept them alive as long as they did.
I mean, he just it just ripped his jugular part,
his artery and he just was It was it was
something out of a Hollywood movie, out of a Holly
I mean, that's what you seeing a Hollywood movie. It

(18:54):
reminded me of of Bosh when they killed that young
kid on that that one episode under the Bridge air
long time ago mademisode. It's just it's, uh, this is unfathomable. John,
I mean this is this is thirty one years of age.
He has an infant son who will never know his father,
all because he debated people and was characterized falsely by

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a bunch of.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
And this, this is the problem the Democrats.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
Pritzker, that scumbag from Illinois is out blaming Trump for this,
out blaming Trump for this, for Trump, you know, saying things.
It's the Democrats to say these evil things. It's the
Democrats who do this all the time, and they to
ratchet up the temperature, and they encourage their words and
their actions. I mean, look what happened in the house.
They can't even have their respect to have a moment
of prayer. They moaned about having a prayer. I have

(19:39):
no idea who it was, but Democrats in the back
of the chamber were screaming, and I heard the F
word thrown out and it was I tried to pump
up the vibe because their microphones went on, but I
was only successful getting part of it, of the dialogue.
But these are just nasty, evil people. These aren't the
Democrats we grew up with.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Your parents.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
You know who are democrats because they were in the
Union or they were the pipe fit you know, or
they worked on the railroad, and they believed in the
middle class. These people are right disgusting scumbags who believe
in perverted ideology, corruption and graft and the destruction of
America as long as they profit from it.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Yep, yep, yep. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
And and those folks that you talked about, you know,
that built the country, who you know, ended up joining
a union because they wanted to make sure their jobs
are safe. I wanted to have, you know, ensure that
their workplace was safe. And of course if they got sick,
they could have a job whenever they come back from
you know, sickly whatever. You know, those aren't the same
democrats that you see today. The democrats that you see
today are people who want to destroy and tear down

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what their fathers and grandfathers and so on, so on
and so forth built. They want to destroy that and
not rebuild it in their image, because they don't even
know what the images that they would want to rebuild
it in. They just won't want to destroy what you've built.
They want to take what you own, what you you've
saved up for to pass on to your next generation.
And they want to take your ability to protect all
of that away from you, so that they can arbitrarily
decide amongst themselves what's right, what's wrong, and what you're

(20:57):
going to suffer through.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
They want to all sharing former communism or socialism, whatever
you want to call it, whatever's next to come, that's
what they want to usher it. Anything but a free republic.
That's what they're trying to do, is kill a free
republic and bring in some sort of communistic regime. And
we've seen what happen in places like venezuel Okay, with socialism.
We've seen how it collapses. We signed how middle class
goes first, We've seen how things just you know, you

(21:19):
got people out there basically just living out of dumpsters
anymore over there, fleeing the country, trying to get out
of the country. Well, was once a good country, good
free country, has turned into a rats nest.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Yeah, so two things, guys.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Number one, one of my viewers has popped in on
the end, he said the Popcast show three point zero.
There are still many of us out there, Chris, middle
class union workers. And that's great podcasts. And I respect
people who earn their way in life and don't look
for band out and you can vote for whomever you like.
That's your progative. But we both know that the Democratic
Party today, the leadership of it, the members who represent
your party at the national level, are not a reflection

(21:53):
of who you are. They are not They are not
the the Mitch McConnelly. He might as well get the Chuck,
the Chuck Schumers, the Alexander Kazer Cortez, the Jasmine Crockets.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
They're not a reflection of middle class American, hardworking Americans.
That's number one, number two. On my most recent trip
to South Africa a few months ago, after this Refgie
program thing blew up and became a huge issue, I
was very circumspect about even telling people it's coming to
South Africa, and very cautious about how far in advanced.
I notified people and put out notice about my meet
and greets. Despite the fact that oftentimes it was a

(22:27):
forty eight hour at best notification that I was having
a meat greet somewhere in the country. I still had
over fourteen hundred people come to my meet and greets.
But the reason I did that is because the threats
I had received before I went to South Africa. Because
people don't want cojing conversation and use discussion. They want
to shut you up and they want to dominate and
they want their supremacy. Now, I believe like Charlie Kirk

(22:48):
did in conversation at debate, and you can bring your
ideas and I'm happy to destroy him and show you
how you're wrong. But that's what that's what adults do. Anyway.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
Factor in a conversation with a prominent journalist in South
Africa who wrote something about President Trump and the tariffs
and attributed what I believe in the false fashion why
their tariffs are there, and I wrote to him in
private rather than make your video and embarrass him, and I said, listen,
I disagree through this.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Erope.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
I said, well, I disagreed for this reason. And I said,
see that's the fabric of adulthood. We can have a
conversation and we can agree and disagree. Yeah right, you're right, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
And one reason why we don't, you know, give out
the hotel that you're staying in, especially whenever you're in
South Africa, it's for security reasons for sure.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
Well, I actually out of myself here in England. My
first week here I met you. Where was that what's out.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I was in right, maybe it was my fault, but
you're a little bit a little bit safer there. But
I don't know, exercising your free speech, you may.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
Not be no, no, you know, not safe in England.
Free speech. I mean, I'll tell you what I could
have done about eighty five videos since I got here,
and I've only done two on England because I'm I'm
I'm actually a little bit afraid of, you know, the
police knocking on the door and finding me. But my
viewers on my program have noticed. I've been going to
coffee shops.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
And you've got Starbucks, but a big one here in
UK is Costa and they have these massive cups for
cappuccinos and I call them at I call them adult
sippy cups because they got handles. Yeah, so I'm not
in a coffee I'm not at a coffee shop now.
And people like Chris, can you buy those mugs? No,
they're not for sale. But look what I have.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
But you can steal them.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
I steal anything.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
You never know, when you find in the dumpster, gentlemen, dumpster,
you can.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
You can steal them away.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
But you can't exercise free speech while you're at the
coffee shop, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, they got some one real laws over there, don't they.
When it comes to free.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Speech, Well, yeah, they've got Yeah, it's it's it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
In fact, every time I log into any website, I
have to agree to all the standards conditions because they
make these these companies put it up.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
You know.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
It's just it's anyway, I'm not I don't want to
knock on the door at the hotel this late at night,
so just leave it at that. But when I get
back to the States, I might have a few more
things to say. But God, be very very careful.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Wait a minute, you're over here on the Common Sense
Conservatives broadcasting out of the United States of America, but
you can't use the speech because you're in England. Is
that what I'm hearing?

Speaker 5 (25:09):
Well, I mean physically i'm here. I could be detained here.
They can't detain me in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Right, wow, just wow. I mean they used to be
our brothers, but I don't know anymore. I'm just like,
you know whatever. I guess we kicked their butts twice.
I might have to be a third time at some
point in time in the their future.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
We saved their bacon quite a few times as well.
But that's another story.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, wasn't they running to arrest Americans for free speech?
Wasn't some idiot over there was like, oh oh go
the United Streets and rustum they talk.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Well, you know, it's like, yeah, good luck with that, Yeah,
good luck with that exactly.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
In fact, France just put a big, multi seventy five
million dollars fine on Google, claiming that they were sticking
cookies in their emails and sticking ads in there. Well,
that's Google's prerogative. You can sent to the terms conditions.
They're claiming that people didn't know that. I don't know
who in the world thinks that Gmail is free and
doesn't come with it well with advertising.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
So anyway, Trump is probably going to take notice of that.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
They watched the terraff in France get ratchet up at
a time where their government just collapsed.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
They had to replace the president and the second time
in what past two years, less than.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Two years, I think, isn't it. They replaced the PM,
not the president.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah, the primest sorry, yeah, the president had to replace
the PM.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
Yeah sorry, right, and so he replaced him but I
don't think this Governm's gonna last very long either.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
I think it's going to collapse pretty quickly.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
They had to day to shut down today and all
over France they shut things down.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
It was pretty crazy.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
They had eighty thousand law enforcement officers out ready to
arrest people before noon.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
They're arrest turning the people around the.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Country for violating the law, for burning tires and things
like that, and putting up barriers. Pretty crazy. But yeah,
So back to Charlie Kirk. I mean, I think a
lot of us are just dobsmacked. I think that's where
I want to say, we're in shocked, but I think
we're just gobsmacked at the events of today. I mean,
I really can't believe it's real because I received a
phone call from one of my moderators who's here in

(27:05):
the UK and who's always online, and within moments of
it happening, he said he called me and I missed
that call.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Bakers. Charlie Kirk just got shot, Like what akay? I
went looking for it.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
I mean, I'm just I'm just oddly gobsmacked that this happened.
I mean, this isn't this isn't like George Wallace. Segregation today,
segregation tomorrow, segregation always where somebody might be inclined to
want to shoot somebody for something like that. This is
some dude who went on college campuses and got people
fired up to talk about politics in the country and
get engaged, and for that he was murdered.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yes, jeez, they couldn't blut them up, man, so they did.
They did the worst, you know, I predict obviously we've
seen it with Trump. So we tried to take Trump
out and we found him behind the bulletproof glass at
the next event. And it looks like anybody who's got
any kind of fame or note to write, because we
did skip over the fact that a lot of influencers

(27:57):
on social media have also been targeted for swatting, you.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Know, oh yeah, well yeah one. But I started to
wonder if he doesn't set that up himself.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Well, you know, but seriously, I think I think Candice owns.
Anybody getting out there now is going to have to
take into consideration for some kind of protective barrier like
bulletproof glass to prevent this from happening to them.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Well, of course, Candace Owens was as closely associate with
at turning point for a long time. It happened a
couple of years ago, and I could see why because
there are any submitted comments, probably played a role in that.
But but Pool tonight apparently had over one hundred thousand
people watching his x or or or his YouTube or
something like that. It was a huge crowd watching him tonight.
I don't get the appeal to Pool. I'm not not

(28:38):
speaking ill of him. I'm just saying I don't get
the appeal. But he spoke about things tonight, and he
spoke about Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
It's guys, it's just terrific.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
And and and the way it happened, you know, it
wasn't like someone got shot in the chest and then
went to hospital and died, I mean right in the jugular.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Oh my goodness. Yes, yeah, there was no way to
say him.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
I'm just wondering if anybody on his detail had, you know,
medical training, as I imagine there are probably some veterans
on that he probably do and knew immediately what to
do as far as you know, grabbing the juggler hopefully
to trying to pinch it off. Maybe that's what kept
him alive just a little bit longer.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Maybe that's what they must have done, was clamped it
or something, you know.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Gave him. He saw the video, I mean there was
a lot of blood.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, he's not you knew as soon as you saw. Yeah,
there's no wonder why he went.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
It was the bright red blood, right, you know that
was coming material artillery beating was because it was oxygenating. Yeah,
And I was like, yeah, he's dead at that point.
But somebody who had some awesome training probably you know,
gave him some sort of chance, you know, honestly.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Exactly, I mean, that must be the case.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
But then might I mean, not to be morose, but
my thought was that whoever maybe staunched the blood, I
don't know, does your just blood come up the other
side of your neck to your brain as well?

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Is it just that one I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
You got the creddit and you got the crowded.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Well that's okay, that's probably good. Then.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
So he was still getting blood to the brain, but
because they were the only way to stop that would
just put pressure down to stop completely until he gets
so you know, it's it's just look, it's this is
I mean, we are about to celebrate a two hundred
and fifty the university of the greatest country in history, and
the country has fallen apart because the Democrats for the
last thirty years and Republicans haven't done anything to save

(30:24):
the country until Trump came along.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
And this is where, yeah, this is about the time
of the show where I say, you have establishment Republicans
at all levels, and you see them. They've been able
to stay in power and in charge because they jumped
on the cotails of Trump and we didn't at the
local state level and of course federal level kick a
lot of these sycophants out.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
I'm talking about the establishment sicc events, not Donald Trump's sycament,
but establishment people who are going to do whatever they can.
They're going to say whatever they have access to, the money,
They're going to do whatever they can to remain in power,
to include getting on Trump's coattails. Once he was out
of office, you saw a lot of them starting to
do the whispers, but some of them he was coming back,
so they held their fire. But once he's out of office,
this next after this next term, whose cotails theyre going

(31:07):
to jump on? You know which vandwagon are they going
to gravitate?

Speaker 4 (31:10):
To these are the.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
People that we don't need in public office. And also
whenever it comes to say local office, state level office,
if you're afraid of that person, what they may actually
do if you speak up about them, or you want
to have your grievance herd, but you're afraid that they
may reprize against you. Guess what, that's the wrong person
to have in public office. Need to kick them out.
And you have an opportunity coming up, probably in a
few short months. You're gonna have early voting starting twenty

(31:33):
twenty six. Is just around the corner.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
It is.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Hey, John, you know I've gotten on my YouTube channel
a larger audience than usual for this time of evening,
and I suspect we probably doing our radio listening audience.
Maybe it's a good time remind folks that we're actually
on the radio and that's what we're here for.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, you know we could do that since at the
bottom of the all were there Chris. Ladies and gentlemen,
you're listening to WSMN fifteen on your AM dial, in
WSMN ninety five point three on your FM dial, and
if you happen to be running into the house hearing
your groceries and think bow. I don't want to miss
any more of this. You can get you to at
WSMN dot live.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
There you go on our individual social media accounts like
myself and John So like the truckers in Broadcasting Network
can catch us. You can catch just on Colonel Chris White,
which a triple ditchits watching tonight. That's pretty cool. That's
rare that we are, But obviously it's because of this
horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk tonight. My concern, guys is

(32:30):
that somebody on our side of the aisle is going
to go too far. And there have been people in
my view that have been trying to push this country
towards a civil war for the past five years at least,
and this is the sort of thing that could do it.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
You know.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
I see the stupid comments from these commentators on CNN
and BBC and also on MSNBC earlier talking about trying
to conflate this murder, this assassination with.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
Those who stormed the Capitol building in January. I'm sorry,
did you watch the footage of those people going to
the building? Ninety eight percent of them walked into the building. Yes,
a few people stormed in.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
But if it had actually had a police presence there
and I was present, I have the video footage to
show you how how lame the police presence was. I mean,
you don't put up bicycle wrecks to stop a crowd.
You don't erect the television tower in front of where
the police are going to stand so people can climb
up on top of it because it wasn't locked and
throw water bottles down on top.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Of you give me a break. You don't send cops
out with with with bicycle helmets and batons instead of firearms.
And you know, it's the whole thing was was was
a setup of greatest abortion here of either stupidity by
Nancy Pelosi or they intentionally wanted somebody to do something
and they got it. But most of those people walked
in the building.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
You know, it doesn't excuse the behavior they committed a
mysticor and they that should be sanctioned for that. But
they're trying to conflate January sixth and people walking into
Capitol building which wasn't torch, which wasn't wasn't damage, wasn't
ripped down, wasn't to face with the political assassination of
Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
It's just sick to see someone try to do that. No, no, no, Weather,
We're a bunch of the idiots.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
And I actually know one a person I went to
the same high school I went to, a few years
younger than me. He actually beat up a police officer
and he got a pardon.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
But we don't.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
That's nowhere near the same as actually shooting somebody with
with with a gun in the neck for crying aloud. Now,
I agree the person who committed this violence should pay
for that crime, and he shouldn't have gotten a pardon
for it. But that's that's that pales in comparison to
shooting somebody for crime.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Are cases, you know, and with all due respect to
law enforcement, I mean, no, you know, disrespect to them
at all. But there's been cases. There's been people I've
known of that were there that did not go into
the Capitol building, were there in the park area and
been attacked by law enforcement officer. And I'm not talking
about you know, they were just pushed or something. I've
been attacked. So sometimes, you know, in the in the

(34:46):
heat of moment, sometimes a law enforcement officers can go
too far, too right, No, that's true.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Look like look, every every organization has bad apple for
people that make stupid mistakes. The military, that's why we
have for the incarceration, we have concursion. We have facilities
to imprison people who break the rules. You know, it's
thankfully in the military at the rate of criminal activities
much lower than general society. But nonetheless, every organization has
bad apples, and so the police will have a few
bad apples here and there by large, most of the

(35:15):
eight hundred save thousand are so law enforcement officials the
United States are law abiding, good people who mean well. Yeah,
so I got a comment here from Paul VNN my
channel saying we're sort of on the radio with a
big smile, thank you, gentlemen. Good to hear your calm
approach and comments on this very disturbing event. It is
a very disturbing event, folks, Absolutely disturbing events.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, absolutely, And it's one of those things like things
that you don't think you're going to see in your lifetime.
Necessary you think it's other countries, you know, you go
back to the nineteen sixty had a lot of assassinations
in our country, you know, in sixty eight Martin Luther
King as an example, RFK, go back to sixty three, JFK.
You know, you had a lot of assassinations in this country,
attempted with assassinations, eye profile, and then all of a

(35:59):
sudden George Wallace, George Wallace, the attempted assassination, right, but
then all of a sudden, and then all of a sudden,
you fast forward to Donald Trump. You know, a couple
of years ago, get shot in Butler, Pennsylvania. You know,
this person sitting outside of his golf club, about to
try to shoot him, take another shot at him. You know,
we realized that occasionally there are people that try to
do things for presidents but actually getting shots off. You know,

(36:22):
in our lifetime, I know Jerald Ford was shot at
a couple of times within the same week.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
But well, well we don't she just pointed a gun
at him, but she got a rest.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Well you know what I'm saying right there, there was
two two incidents within it within a week. But anyway,
and actually a marine actually intervened on that one and
stopped her from being able to get a start.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
I mean, what a legacy for Squeaky from she was
a Mansen clan and then she tried to kill Jared Ford.
That's just I mean, she made herself famous some more
ways of one, Michelle, and my chat is saying, seventeen
ninety to your homework, three million, one hundred thousand people.
That was the population of the United States in the
first official census in seventeen ninety.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Is that homework you want me to do?

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah? I don't know what he was referring to.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah, but anyway, we don't expect to see these types
of things on our regular in our country. An occasional thing, yes,
but now we're seeing it quite more regular in the
past several years. I mean, just going after members of Congress,
you know, senators, whatever, you know.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
And I think that this is okay behavior. It's not.
It's not normal.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
The thing about it, guys, is we're up to here
in twenty twenty five, we're up to three hundred and
fifty six mass shootings. You don't hear about every one
of them, and the last one happened yesterday. So there's
a lot of a lot of crazy stuff going on
with this. And I thought Barack Obama when he forced
the Affordable Care Act on our throats that it was

(37:44):
going to address the mental illness. You remember he said
that this is going to help the mental illness in
the United States, and we're going to reduce gun violence,
and YadA YadA, And they didn't do a thing, not
a thing.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
It's because the Unaffordable Care Act was a scam for
the insurancempanies and they didn't realize they were screwing themselves
over so now they have buyer's remorse. But all the
Affordable Care Act did was push twenty million working Americans
off of health insurance and bring ten to twelve million
illegal aliens into the healthcare system for free that we
pay for. And so working class families got screwed. Plus

(38:18):
the rates went up because you couldn't get rid of
people at pre existing conditions, and we got nothing new.
The Affordable Care Act did not bring us new hospitals,
new clinics, new surgical procedures, new nurses, new medicines, nothing new,
nothing additional. All it did was pervert who pays for it,

(38:39):
in an effort to turn our country to the socialist
paradise of misery and suffering for all, a country where thrift,
hard work, entrepreneurialism, drive, and dedication don't matter. Just sit
on your bum and collect your check from the state. Oh,
which means you're collected from those are actually working. You
parasites people you're critiquing. John, can I jump in real quick?

Speaker 3 (39:01):
You said that, you know, the last mass shooting was yesterday,
but three teenagers remain in critical edition in Colorado Evergreen,
Colorado school.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Mass shooting doesn't require fatality. It just means that three
people were.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Know what I'm saying, it happened, you know today, but
this happened almost almost on.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
Oh it did.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
I'm sorry it did today.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Nine You mentioned yesterday it was.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
One yesterday as well. I believe.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Oh yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah, So real quick, guys, legal alien uh says on TikTok.
There's a guy that posted that Charlie was going to
be at the student at his at his university today
and hope someone would evaporate Charlie. A second post, he
said something was going to happen if you got that man,
create the receipts and get that, get that over the FBI.
I mean that's that that could be a lead if

(39:45):
they had beforehand knowledge and stuff. Don't don't waste that
opportunity if you can do it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
Now, look, there's a number comments coming in from viewers here,
those watching the program online rather than listening to the radio.
One of them coming in from Allen says, our biggest
problem is that children are being taught critical race theory,
and there have been what's this there And he's been
fortunate that not one of his sons has a grasp
onto it. His god daughter's a totally different story. Yeah,
I mean that common core, that lack of patriotism and

(40:16):
the lack of volunteerism, all these things contribute to fatherless family.
Seventy eight percent of Black children are bill born illegitimately
to single parents, forty five percent of Hispanic children, twenty
five percent of White children, nine percent of Asians. That
is a crisis beyond epic. Proportions shouldn't be more than
four or five percent of children born and legitimately, all
children should be raised a loving, two parent family. And

(40:37):
you know it's okay, you LGBTQ crowd can't come attack me.
I said a two parent family. I didn't say, and
a man and a woman. I didn't say a woman
and a woman, A man? A man said a two
parent loving family to split the responsibilities and duties for
parenting and disciplining and mentoring and teaching children.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
You need two parents your dead effectively.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
Trust me, having grown up in all kind of circumstances,
I can confirm you need both by by by, by
all rights. I want to be a pit, a drug dealer,
or some sort of gangster.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
But I'm not.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
He's all those things all wrapped.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
I'm not one of them. I'm all of them.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, somebody's bringing up. I don't know if I want
to put your name or not. She's Ukrainian, Irene, Irena Zarutska.
Knife in the neck here and it's of August. Another
boodle attack. That one was recorded. She petite young woman

(41:30):
gets on a train, boards a train, walks over, collucts.
The seat right behind her happens to be a large
shaw man and it was really weird because it looked
like he had just woken up the way he did it,
and opens up a knife, a folding knife and knife
sort of the neck same. What is this with this
neck thing? I don't know, but horrible, horrible.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
Thank goodness, we've ban gun so that young lady would
be alive if we have not been, if we but
exactly now.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
So here's another thing that's been going on for years.
So I love this because the Hodge Twins, who are
mixed race, they always put always put these things out.
They put up image out the other day of a
photograph of a black guy and it says a white man.
That's how the police describe the person. I'm looking for
a white man. He's clearly a black man. Is this
stuff happens all the time, falsely labeling. If you look

(42:18):
at the clearsans who are booked in, oftentimes they'll be
white or black, and they'll be listed as white, not
mixed races, but clearly black, listed as white, so to
skew the crime stistics, to make it look like more
white people are committing crimes. Listen, this is not an
anti black thing. Black Americans are wonderful people by and large.
Ninety nine percent of them, I would hope, are wonderful people,
people of faith, people who work hard, They try very hard,

(42:39):
some of who had to deal with very difficult certain
sense of life. Some have had very easy lives like
anyone else. But the reality is this most violent crime
this country is committed by just twelve percent of the
population when you consider the black men commit fifty one percent.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Of the murders in the US. They're only six and
a half percent of the population. Six and a half
percent of the population kills over fifty percent of the
people are murdered every year in this country. Out Why
do we cover that statistic up? Because well, this liberal
white guilt. Folks.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
You don't fix the country by covering up things and
lying about it. You tell the truth. Otherwise when people
find out, they just get really angry. I remember a
few years ago when a fifty year old gentleman who
lived in New York and Syracuse had lived in the
same neighborhood his entire life. He had some developmental issues,
but he was functional, and I know he's maybe slightly
autistic or something. And he went to the market, came
back to his house in the street where he lived

(43:27):
with all his neighbors, who were black and white, got
along with him, and two teenagers broke in, tied him
to his lazy boy, poured lighter fluid over them, then
lit him on fire. Right he managed to break his
bonds and stumble into the street where someone saw him
and put the flames out, But he'd had burns over
ninety five percent of his body third degree burns. He
died a horrible death and pain four days later in

(43:47):
the hospital. The media failed to report that they were
black teens, and they just said it was a home invasion.
They didn't say the rific circuits. I had to do
massive research to find the facts of that case, and
only local media atually talked about that. National media refused
to talk, And meanwhile they were talking about other things.
Remember how they said George Zimmern was a white man,
He's more he's more of a brown, more of a

(44:08):
brown Hispanic than a white man. And they also said
that Trayvon Martin was just was was unjustly murdered, when
in fact he assaulted Zimmern.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
We found out later on. Remember Ferguson, Missouri hands up happened.
And also, of course George Floyd was murdered by a
man who he wasn't murdered by because the coroner said
his death was the cause of a fentanyl overdose, not
a choke hold. Yet.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
Yeah, Garrek showvad sits in prison's convicted murder for using
an authorized trained police choke hold that the police department
lied about in their trial. You know, it's it's just,
you know, it's unbelievable. In a couple of years, did
you see the thing in Ohio where the police officer,
the two police officers approached the car for a wanted failing.
There was an outstanding warrant for him, and the male

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police officer came up on the pastor's side, leaned in
to get you know, get his information, and he started
to drive away. The police officer, the female on the
driver's side, warned him to stop.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
He didn't. She pulled to reach for her taser, and
she reached for her fire service weapon and fired and
killed him. And she went to prison for.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
Negligent homicide or something like their negligent to whatever or
you know, involat you mansallier. She went to prisoner life
completely destroyed a long serving police officer because in the
heath of the moment she grabbed the wrong weapon. Well,
the architect of that death was the black man who
failed to follow the directions.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
The police officer.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
By the way, she was justified in using deadly force
because he was dragging a police officer to his death. Yeah, anyway, Yeah,
can go on for hours and hours and hours here
this is not anti black.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
This is the truth, and people like the truth because
the truth hurts.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I was thinking earlier today, Chris, to your point, I
was thinking about, oh man, it's been like thirty years
ago and black neighborhoods, and there were the men of
that neighborhood. They were attempting to take back their neighborhood,
you know, beaten trash cans and stuff and marching down
the street. You know, this is our neighbor these are
our children. We're taking a back sort of thing, doing
a chant, trying to beat to the gang violence and

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the gangster result that we're creating these havochs in their streets.
You know. So it does happen there. It happens a lot.
And but you know, to your point, there's a lot
of good people too. You know, we don't we don't
fail to recognize them. And we've seen them in the open.
We've seen them make attempts to better their societies too.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
They are societies. There are societies.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
These are Americans who are talking about so yeah, but look,
it's there is a concerted effort to cover up what's
been happening and what's going on this country. Watch a
commercial on Network television, white men are an extinct species.
The only people appear in our commercials are blacks, occasional Asian,
plenty of homosexuals, and white women if they're married to

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a black man. In the commercial. White men, you know
you used to be a couple of years ago, white
men only got through the erectile dysfunction has But now apparently, guys,
did you know that white men don't get liver cancer,
they don't need skyrizia, they don't have diabetes, they don't
get erectile dysfunction. Only black people get those things. Now,
I'm based on the commerce, so they only want to
appear in them.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Right, yeah, right, that doesn't bother me so much because
I don't like TV anyway.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
And then every.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Other commercial is a weight loss commercial, right, you know,
and they're all dancing around doing all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
It's like, if you were doing all that activity, you
probably wouldn't be as big. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I'm not making fun of people who are big. I'm
not doing that, but I'm just saying, like, how is
it all the injection will be the savior of me.
It's like that's gonna probably cause some other problems. Liver
cancer amongst it or whatever else is gonna cause down
the road. How about a little bit of exercise, a
little bit of self control. I get people have issues
with trying to lose weight. I'm not making fun, but

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you know, injecting yourself with a chemical is probably not
gonna be your saving grace.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
Here, Todd, it's just a thyroid problem. Yeah, he's gonna
throid problem. Yeah. Anyway, not We're not trying to fat
chage people here. But I mean, you get you get
my point.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
Twelve percent of the population and ninety five percent of
the commercials, same with TV shows. You know, look, I
I look, I've lived in ithborhoods that were almost entirely
black growing up.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
I've lived all over Africa, and I'll just be honest
with you.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
Whenever I go to Yellowstone, whenever I go hiking to
Kadia National Park, whenever go walk in the Appalachian Trail,
I pass lots of people, but I would say less
than two percent of the time I pass past black Americans.
He had every automobile commercial with an SUV climbing Mount
McKinley on television is a black couple.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Yeah, because you're just gonna You're just gonna go take
the Danale out to Mountain Denali.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Right, Yeah, I don't think so climbate.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
The funny The funny thing about what you're talking about, Chris,
is every time I go, you see a liberal side
or something. They're always talking about, well, things need to
be fair and balanced, but they're with DEI. They're always
trying to tip the balance of the skills in a
total opposing direction.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
Well again, I mean, if things are supposed to be
fair and balanced, and if we have to do things
based on percentages, then I would like to see seventy
five percent of the NFL and the NBA be white
instead of eighty seven percent black NBA and sixty five
percent of the NFL black.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Now I don't really care.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
I mean, I just want the best product on the pitch,
and if that's the best product, that's fine. But I
don't want to be lectured to by people that are
idiots because they want to play this game about the past.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
I wasn't in the past. I didn't benefit the past.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
If I did, I wouldn't have had to grow up
on food stamps and free lunches in school, and you know,
not having varsity jackets and walking fifteen miles home from
baseball practice. You know, so I don't want to hear
this nonsense about like white privilege and you benefited from this,
that and the other. I just like any poor Black
American or poor Native American had to apply for federal
aid and the student me to give enough way to
go to university when I applied myself and I earned

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my way through life, and everything I've done, I've earned.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
So they can take that shove it where the sun
don't shine.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I walked by rich black people and if, hey, he
got my white privilege.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
He's got my white privilege.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Michael Jackson and Michael Jordan got my
white privilege. You know, I should be able to dunk
like that, right and be able to win NBA championship.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
He's got privilege I have to give black folks. Man,
I'll tell you what it is. Based in the NA
felt I think they worked hard, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
And the NBA, it just said, I don't like the
style of playing the NBA. IM like much better Birdie Johnson,
and that was a much more exciting NBA. And ever
since Jordan retired, it's just been the same. They all
look the same they all play the same. When I
say they look the same, they're all the same height,
they all look have the same bill, and a bunch
of them are punks and that's not fun to watch.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
So nobody's playing. Nobody's playing exactly one and thirty eight.
Come on, you get close to the star player, it's
a foul.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
You know, near lebron if if he decides to flop,
it's a foul automatically, you know, he me.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
In the locker room.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
The rest favorites that we were saying.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
We did have the Jordan rules. Anybody that breathe on
Michael Jordan it was a foul. He had more free
throws than you can imagine. So but yeah, anyway, so look,
it's uh, these people, it just really really have lost
their way.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
And whoever is responsible for the asassities of Charlie Kirk today,
they are going to rue this action.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
I love what the Governor Cox had to say. I
want to remind people that Utah still has a death penalty.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Yeah, and you know you don't don't let him plea out.
I mean, if you got him dad to right so
to speak, I mean, don't don't let him plea out.
Force them to go to go to court. I mean
they'll probably take a Please if they get caught, I'll
be like, oh, all it meant to it, you know,
don't don't don't behind that he was crazy.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
It was it was the hormones I was taking for
my transition.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
But what Charlie Kirk was actually saying, you know.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
Andre de Beer a viewer popped in on my channel
and said, good morning, because that's South Africa time. Am
I the only one who does know Charlie Kirk is?
Please don't judge? And why was he killed? We won't judge?
Is Andrea, you live in South Africa? Why would you
know Charlie Kirk is. Charlie Kirk is a young man
who started a movement called Turning Point USA, which was
focused on getting young Americans in the conservative movement to

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be more vocal, more active and politic and get engaged
into running campaigns, running for office, things like that Turning
put USA Allied themselves or President Trump. It was a
group focused on people under the age of thirty and
a big effort on college campuses to debate and talk
about the issues that are important today today. At a
college campus in Utah with thousands of his supporters there

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and people who are detractors to ask him questions, because
that's what it did. You come up, ask me a question,
I'll answer it, and they have a debate kind of
like Speaker's corner. Accept a lot more than a dozen people, thousands,
and so Charlie Kirk was shot in the neck and
passed away at the hospital sometime after that. It's a
political assassination. So Sandrea, there's a little bit. You're up
to speed on that.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Who he was? Yeah, there you go in a nutshell absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
Well, we have the Japanese former prime minister who was
running for office again who was assassinated a couple of years.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
Agovering that we've had South Koreans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
the guy we've heard.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Yeah, and we've had I always say abbe, so he said, yeah,
I don't know if I'm right. That's how we said it.
And then we had some South Korean politicians murdered. They
try to murder Dutch politicians. Garrett Wilders, they tried to
kill him. It's sick, but I mean it's something that
we haven't seen a lot of the United States since
the nineteen sixties.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
But it's back now and it needs to stop. Yeah,
I agree with you. Well, where do we go from here?

Speaker 3 (53:22):
What do you think is there going to be the fallout?
I mean, is it going to be just a lot
of social media rhetoric. Is it going to be increased
violence from the left.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Is people on the.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Right going to go out and look for some sort
of odd, screwed up retribution.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 5 (53:37):
Well, my thoughts are at number one, people on the
right are going to venerate Charlie Kirk, and some people
are going to try to elevate him to sainthood, which
I don't think is necessarily deserved.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
He's well loved. But that's going to happen, and the
left is going to piss and moan about it and
speak evil about him and try like the nonsense did today,
like he says hate speech, which isn't hate speech.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
That's what's going to happen in the media aftermath of this.
I think beyond that this will galvanize people for next
year's election, I think that the assassination of Charlie Kirk
will for the Democrats have a verse effect of hurting
their chances, because this will be a rallying cry for
young conservatives and older conservatives alike. You know, they nearly

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killed Trump, and that played a major role in Trump
winning that election.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
People will talk about that, but there isn't just because
Joe Biben was senile and corrupt. Is it just because
Kamala Harris as dumb as a box of rocks? Trump
won in part because he survived that assassination step and
he stood up and defiantly said fight, fight, fight, and
that inspired a nation. You know, so many times I
heard people say, you know, that's it. I'm tired of this.

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I can't vote Democrat anymore. You know, look at these
people ghoulishly excited that he got shot, and then when
he died, they're celebrating his death.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
It's sick.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
And I think this is going to you know, there
was a question about other Republicans could win the midterms.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
I think this is a done deal now.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
I think the assassination Charlie Kirk will play a major
role in the Republicans not only retaining the House, but
increasing their lead and maybe gaining a seed or two
in the Senate, which will be harder this time around
because it's not his favorable Electricyites be for him in
the Senate.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
But this is this is not going to go well
for them.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
And much like the death of Andrew Breitbart, which was
an assassination, but he had he had a bad heart.
He died much younger than he should have. But Andrew
Bidbart dying, he's still venerated as a hero of the
conservative movie. And of course Breitbart, unlike he was very
different than than Charlie Kirk. Charliekirk has always been a conservative,
but Breitbart was a leftist who found.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
His way to the conservative side.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
But Breitbart basically taking away from the mainstream media allowed
people like us to come out to the masses and
talk to people directly. People don't have to go to
the mainstream media anymore, then, come to directly to the
podcast or radio shows whatever. They don't have to listen
to what ABC, NBC, whatever says.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
Right, Well, guys, i won't be around for the second
hour once again because I'm overseas, so I want to
think you and I'm going to leave my stream running
for those who want to stay to talk about this
very point issue.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
Listen to you, guys talk for the next hour. Last
week I shut it down. I realized I shut down
my viewers. They might have missed the rest of the show.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
But if everyone wants to stay listen, my social media
can stick around on x and stick around on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
But I'm off to hit the racks.

Speaker 5 (56:16):
I want to thank you, guys, and my thoughts and
prayers to the family of Charlie Kirk into Conservative movement,
fair winds and smooth sailing to Charlie Kirk, and off
of the salute.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
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quick break. Company on our break. We'll be back in
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an executive order to change the Department Defense back to
the Department of War.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
What do you think yeah, I don't know that that
was necessarily needed. And one of his statements that he
made was, well, you know, the Department of War reflects
the times that we live in. It's like, do we
need to live in times of more war? I mean,
do we not have enough of that? You know, internally
you were assassinating people who just speak up and say
things that you don't like. You know, we're seeing wars

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endlessly in Ukraine, the Middle East, everywhere.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
You know. The Department of Defense was the idea of
the change.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
The name change was, you know, we're to reflect the
fact that we don't need endless wars. I mean, you
just came out of World War Two, for crying out
loud the National Security Act in nineteen forty seven, the
Department of Defense. You came out of World War two,
you know, the biggest, the most massive total war in
the history of humanity. And now we're talking about you know,
let's let's let's get back to that mindset. No, we

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should defend, be ready to defend against, say aggressors like Japan, uh,
you know, Nazi, Nazis, the Soviets, whatever, whatever the case
may be, Middle Eastern threats, you know, non state actors.
We should be able to defend ourselves and then of
course project power if needed. But Department of War. I
don't get the fact that we need need to change
the name at this point. Also, let's be clear, the

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Department of War was essentially what what what became the
Department of the Army. Okay, they just basically created the
Defense Department of Defense out out of out of thin air,
basically incorporating the Department of the Army or Department of War,
and created the Department of the Army. UH, created Department
of the Air Force, took that away from the Army.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
UH.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
The Department of the Navy became part of the Department
of Defense. And he created all these different entities under
one umbrella, you know, versus them being separate cabinet level
of entities like they were beforehand. More wildy this way, uh,
And a name.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
Change, you know, is arbitrary.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
But let's focus on defending the nation versus going around
and fighting endless wars.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
I think that's the wrong mindset.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Yeah, it looks like Congress was trying to change the
name back to the Department of War something that regard.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Weren't they I I don't know. What what the fascination,
what the need was. I'm like, you think about how
much it's going to cost us to just change the name.
I'm like, what's what's the point. Let's not waste money.
Things are humming along as Department of Defense. Right, we're
getting woke out out of the building as best we can, right,
getting it out of the ranks. Uh, you know, let's
focus on doing that, completing that mission for crying out

(59:40):
loud and ensuring that it never comes back. Uh, you know,
and focus on defending the nation and the support defending
the constitution.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (59:48):
You know.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
It's not something that's.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Got me, you know, worked up at night, I can
tell you. But I'm like, my question is why, what
was the real point of that? And how much money
is it going to cost?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Uh that's a good point. That's pretty pretty unsightful. That's
a good point. Uh. Yeah, I don't know why they
want to return it back to department. I'm like you,
I don't make su I'm fine with Department defenses, you know,
because that's our standpoint, isn't the United States? Our standpoint
is when we engage run the defensive stance, not we
don't take offense. We take defense, and we get the

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job and we get the job done.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Although we could point to probably many thousands of times
where the US has been on the offensive, you know,
and we probably didn't need to be.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
But but that's that's, that's besides the point.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Every nation does that, you know, makes a good decisions
and make bad decisions, you know. Yeah, it's up to
the American people to stand up and speak truth to power. Though,
but even and not a lot allow our nations and
military to be used in such an arbitrary manner, as
it hasn't many many, many instances.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Vietnam is an example. You know, the quote Gulf of Tonkin,
you know, which never happened apparently, you know, but but
all of a sudden it led to fifty some thousand,
you know, America is being killed and who knows how
many you know, hundreds at that that were wounded physically
and psychologically after the fact.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
You know, absolutely, Oh yeah, we were invited to Vietnam.
We weren't. It wasn't like we just went over there
with the Vietnam president. Right. It was kind of interesting
because I read the original letter. It's online, you can
find it and know you read it. It's like in handwriting,
and it's kind of like because it's broken, it's got
written in broken English and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Right, And I understand Eisenhower sending advisors, and Kennedy enhanced
the advisors, and then of course you had Johnson going
there and just blow it to heck up, and then
sadly Nixon, you know, went in there promising to end it,
and then they just muddled the whole thing up.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
I just, you know, don't get it. You can't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
You can't have a money generating war like that. Yeah,
just shut it down. That's a good business there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
I get that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Congress was no help for sure, you know, because you
got to think about the defense industry. Eisenhower warned us
again against the military industrial complex, and of course by
that point we had a full complex, and that they
needed to make money, and members of Congress needed employment
in their district. So guess what, Hey, Vietnam sounds like
a good thing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
They're not.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
In no way was Vietnam going to be able to
take over the United States.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
No, no way.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
They couldn't project power outside of the you know, they're
they're they're not too far off of their shores, so
they're not going to come to the United States and
take us out. But they had they had this whole
idea of this domino theory, right that they sold to
the American people, you know, to to try to rally people.
But at that point, Americans have moved on from you know,
the the greatest generation fighting World War Two at this point,

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you you's the baby boomers who were like, why do
we need endless wars for crying aloud? Especially in a
place that has no threat to us directly in any
any way.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
And you know, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Could see, I could see that the the you know,
the counter to the Vietnam I appreciate everybody who served there,
but did we need to send people there that dined
it needlessly? You know, if we weren't there to actually
fight it to a conclusion where we where we walk
away as the victors, which we could have rather easily. Uh,
you know, uh, if we're not going to fight it
that way, what's the point of fighting there?

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Absolutely, you know, you got to you gotta get the
job done.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
You can't, you can't, right, And there was no real
reason for a lot of these men to die there
for crying out loud. I mean, you escalated what the
domino theory South Vietnam. Vietnam welcomed the North end for
the most part. I mean most of the people out
out in the fields had no care who who the
government is.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
They just want to be left alone.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Right And think about China right now today, people that
are out and far flong China, you think that they
know what's going on in their actual the nation's capital,
you know, did they know that they're communists? Probably not
some of them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
So tomorrow's nine to eleven, it's an anniversary date, as
you know for the two thousand and one attacks. Have
you seen anything about threat assessments towards He never heard
like he used to. But I'm kind of wondering if
there's any threat assessments. I really didn't get to look
it up.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
Yeah, I'm sure that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
I'm sure there's been stuff that's been done. It's probably
not really talked about. And it's course with Charlie Kirk
being assassinated and I mean no one's even looking at
that now. You know, what are people were going to
be talking about tomorrow on nine to eleven? You know,
is it going to be Charlie Kirk or the thousands
of people who who you know, were martyred on nine
to eleven, were killed on a you know, assassinated on
nine to eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
So the was this Department of Homeland Security put out
a bulletin. The ongoing Iran conflict is causing a heightened
threat environment in the United States. The level of cyber
attacks against US networks by pro Iranian activists are likely,
and cyber actors affiliated with the Iranian government may conduct
attacks against US networks. I Ran also has a long
standing commitment to target US government officials its views as

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responsible for the death of an Iranian military command in
which we know. The likelihood of violent extremists in the
homeland independently mobilized into violence and response to the conflict
would likely increase if Iranian leadership issued a religious ruling
calling for reteliatory violence against targets in the homeland. Multiple
recent homeland tourist attacks have been motivated by antisemitic or
anti Israel sentiment, and the ongoing Israel Iran conflict could

(01:04:58):
contribute to US based individual plotting additional tax US base.
That's sleeper cells. So that's something you know, I just
wanted to bring up tonight for those listening because it's
something to think about, even if you're not in the
United States. There's been a history of attacks against embassies
abroad and any other government officials, military bases, things like that.

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So if you're you know, if you're going to federal
buildings and you might just want to, you know, keep
that tucked away in the back of your mind. Just
be a work keep your head on a squibvel more
or less. Look for abnormal normalities and stuff because it's
not We don't see a big threat for nine to
eleven like we used to, but with ongoing issues in
the Middle East and Palestine and Israel, it wouldn't surprise

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me if tomorrow, being the anniversary day, if something did happen,
I don't think I'd been even more surprised than what
happened today. Is like Chris said, it's not shocking, it's
just it's disturbing that it happened. But we this is
what we expect from the liberal left. And I'm saying
liberal left. I don't think of being anybody from the
right though. Did the events of today and these guys

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aren't you know, they're unhinged, they're not rep Do you
take some of these people.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Right, right, And it's funny as it's I don't mean
like funny, like hysterical, but in an ironic way that
it's the same people that are you know, talking about
the right shouldn't have guns, people, we don't need guns,
you know, get rid of the Second Amendment. Are the
ones that are actually committing violence against other people with guns,
you know, if you notice that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Yeah, there's been a lot of people pointing out a
trend with trans people now, right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
I think maybe Charlie had made mention of that at
times and pointing things out, you know, but you think
about this, you know, as I talked about putting chemicals
in your body for crying out life, like I was
kind of joking earlier about the weight loss stuff, you know,
zimpic or whatever. You know, you're putting chemicals in your
body and relying on it to do something for you,
there's gonna be some sort of side effect, right, and

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generally the general there's usually some sort of side effect
down the road that we don't know about.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
Maybe it doesn't get everybody, maybe get some people.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
You know whatever, But you know the left where there's
gonna be a side effect at some point with you know,
the nonsense that you spew, the violence that you spew.
You know there's going to be a backlash at some point.
You know, there's gonna be a reaction.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
There was a lot of discussion about psychotoptropic drugs and
stuff like that has gone children and they're developmental ages
when they're using these things, and then they get to
be twenty eighteen, twenty twenty one and they no longer
qualify insurance. And it has to do with a lot
of painkillers they give kids too. They do the same
sort of things and they just don't cold take them
off the medication and there's no weaning them off. It

(01:07:36):
is just hey, sorry, buch, you luck key, go figure
out this way. We got a lot of hero maatics
on the streets now is due to prescription medications. And
I think a lot of it too, you know, I
think it's a combination of things. It's that. I think
it's that. And they poo poo that idea. In twenty
twelve when Obama's putting in you know, people are claiming this,
maybe even earlier people are claiming making these claims and

(01:07:58):
the Liverpool US going, oh, there's no evidence of that. Genius.
It doesn't require a full flowing, multi million dollars study back.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Which is kind of what I was going for, you know,
going out there. You know the chemicals they put in
people's bodies whenever they're transitioning, if you will, you know,
no such things as transition. You're just getting a lot
of chemicals. You're you're you're making yourself look slightly different.
You're still you're still a male or you're still a female.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
I'm sorry. Uh, there's there's also the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Underlying psychological issues that no one's dealing with. Now we're
just tossing chemicals on top of it. And you're you're,
you're going to say that there's no reaction whatsoever, there's
no downfall. You know, you can just go ahead and
do this, lop off body parts, you know, as you
see fit.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Everything's good to go.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
We don't have to treat the underlying psychological issue. Uh,
you know, and and and this is a problem in
our country. And I think maybe Charlie Kirk was making
mention of that, and that was his point. You know,
no one's attacking somebody who's trans or or somebody who's
suffering from you know, uh, uh, you know, some sort
of mental issue. Uh, you know, we're not we're not
trying to downplay that, but the fact is, you know,

(01:08:58):
you don't treat the mental issue that's underlying, and then
you throw chemicals on top of it. You know, you're
you're gonna you're creating a disaster here that's in the making,
and it's not gonna be good for the individual. And
also if they do something, uh, you know, try to
hurt somebody, you know, yeah, yeah, absolutely, these things can
happen because the person clearly wasn't doesn't think clearly to
start with, right, there's something not right there.

Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
Not making fun of anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
But then you're not treating that, and then obviously you
throw chemicals on top of it, and you're like, oh,
if something happens or it wasn't this, you know it
was it was the rights rhetoric about it. It's like, no,
the person that clearly is not thinking clearly obviously, you know, So.

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
What what is it is the chemicals?

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
You know, is it the mental issue on top of
the throwing the chemicals on top of it?

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
What what is the issue here?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
You know, I think predominantly it's mental issues, to be
honest with you, I mean, just logically speaking, yes, chemicals
can have an effect, right. I mean we've seen people
that you know, this medfication may cause these types of
side effects, and then some of them might be some
kind of like you know, and thinking or whatever ridiculous
that may cause. Oh and I think some some times
they disregard these side effects too, you know, they don't

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play them up. And a lot of times it may
be a matter of mixing different pills and stuff too.
You know, I gotta be careful about that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Yeah, people self medicating, that's that's a big issue in
this country anymore. But I honestly thought, I think the
biggest thing is is you've got weak minded people in
this country. People are susceptible to suggestion, and sometimes it's
mouth suggestions. Earlier, you guys were talking about you know,
I think you may have mentioned about they keep talking
about mass shootings. You're hearing it all the time. I mean,
how many did I read OUTE three hundred and fifty six?

(01:10:31):
I think so far this year? Uh. Years ago, they
quit telling people when there was an attempted presidential assassination
because they don't want copy cat offenders, right, and so
they stopped telling people who rob banks. When people rob banks,
they wouldn't give names and you know, the cool nicknames
and stuff, right whatever, And because it glorified them, and

(01:10:51):
people want to become copy cat defenders. So then they said, well,
let's just stop acknowledge them in the media. Just start,
you know, running through the criminals system and give them
their fair trial and lock them away and not give
them the fame and the attention they're seeking. And perhaps
you won't get these repeat offenders. But when it comes
to these shootings, what do they do. Man, They blasted

(01:11:13):
out there as much as they can, like they know
it's going to cause repeat offenses.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Yeah, well yeah, well actually they can score political points.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Off of it too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Yeah. And it's also you know, if it bleeds, it
sells a nopen intended here all.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
No, but that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, mass shootings or major truck you know,
a truck has an accident, kills thirteen people in the highway,
you know, you know, fuel truck blows up. Yeah, everybody
loves that. Everybody wants to see, you know, what's going
on over there, who's having a bad day over there?

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Not me?

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Right, you know, people love to see that and I
think it's sad. You know, maybe it's a I don't
know that it is necessarily the media. It's you know,
it's human nature to want to look and see the
car wreck or whatever and see the carnal.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
I think we're got a kind of a morbid curiosity
to carnage. People will gravitate to that stuff. Sometimes there's
a reason why people rubber neck when you're going by
an accident, and they just keep focusing on the task
at hand and stop trying to poke around you, it'd
be safer. I've seen accidents happen, accidents because somebody was
trying to rubber neck and rear into somebody else that

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stopping the rubber neck or something.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
Supid.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
You know, we're parked on the shoulder. Oh yeah, you know,
you just look. It's a more curiosity. Go and get
over it. Let's go. We're growing ups here, you know.
Do you really want to see somebody else's pain and suffering?
I mean, what's to do for you? Nothing?

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
No, no, But but people have that moment of like, well,
I'm glad it's not me, you know what I mean.
It's like that's person over the person suffering, and you're
you're sitting there, you know, taking photos and video of it,
you know, so you can be the first on social
media to put it out there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Come on, yeah, that's a new new thing today. You know, Hey,
I want to be out there like Charlie Kirk. Everybody
was running to social media be the first one to
say Charlie Kirk got shot. You know it's like, sure, okay, yeah, great,
but you know, I just don't get that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Well, everybody now has to be be the new breaker
or the star, you know, of their own story. You know,
it's like everybody can't just let live their life and
go about their daily routine. Everybody has to be a star.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
It's the whole fifteen minutes of fame, right. But everybody
thinks that the fact that you have a smart device
that you can hold up and do like a little
video that everybody wants to hear what you have to say,
most of it's BS nonsense and nobody cares. And you know,
I mean, and I'm talking about even my own stuff
I put out there. I mean, most people probably don't care, right,
They're just gonna add whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
I try to put out information that that's beneficial to
people you know that they may want, you know, but
he you know, it may not appeal to everybody, but
you know, I'm not looking to have my fifteen minutes
of fame.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
But you have a lot of people that are that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Think that it's like and this, this can help you
reach a lot of people versus trying to get on
say television or be an actor and actress back in
the old days. You know, now you can make your
own content and people may gravitate to it, and you
may making money off of it. You know, it may
not be you become a movie star a TV star,
but you're still making money in one way or another.

(01:14:07):
Right and you know whatever, but everyody thinks they're going
to be the big star.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Well, I'm reading this comment from holding the first Sergeant.
It's saying that while people watch, yeah, but the thing
about it is, though we do what we do. If
one person watches when and listens, one person watches listens,
if a million people watch and listen movie, we're doing
the same thing regardless. We're not doing it for starting.
We just did it before a platform were entertained to
do it. We like to do it, we enjoy to
do it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
We're not making money off it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
We're not trying to brand ourselves and way like you
know Comma SISCA servers will be at Sea Pack this year.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
Oh go see our booth. You know. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
The thing of it is todd is if anybody went
to your my profile with e'dc is we might be
posting comments. Since Conservais, I got about three shows I
do a week, and those are the ones i'd post,
And I didn't even post this one or yesterdays. I
didn't even bother putting it on my personal profile because
I'm done about done on social media. Really, I'm just
I'm sick and tired of social media. I'm just I'm

(01:15:03):
here doing a radio show because it's it's terrestrial, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, but again, you know, we
get views. It's just we're not doing it because we
want the attention. But we see these people that say,
on X okay, I sit there and listen to one
of those X spaces and this guy happens to be
very well followed, and he was talking about how he

(01:15:23):
winds things up so he gets post fed fed into him.
So because and they were talking about they said, absolutely,
this is one of the best way to get attention
to yourself is you've got to be right there, Johnny
in the spot when when a high item comes out,
you got to be the first one to get it
out there. You have to be a lot of people
want to make money off X, A lot of people
want to make money off YouTube and so on and
so forth, and that's well and fine. If you can
do it, more power to you. I just don't see chasing.

(01:15:45):
I don't have the time. I'm too busy to be
chasing around trying to do that sort of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Up, you muted yourself, Yeah, sorry about that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
I was checking out. Somebody gave a comment saying that
our feet is frozen. I'm like guy, I went and
went and checked it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Sorry, I don't know that it has when not on Facebook,
but if it has, I do apologize. But uh, I
don't know if we're still on Facebook or not we
Maybe that's why I was checking there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Well. Facebook has been acting up like I did a
Patriot Confederation with Billy last night. We had a right
chilled there by the way. That was fun and uh
I got a notification we went to go live about
Facebook having issues and it may outload up and YadA, YadA, YadA,
but working on it. And so, I mean it happens

(01:16:31):
sometimes with these social media sites, right, No, I.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
Get that, but that's that's what I was going for there.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
But but yeah, we're not.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
We're not the people that are like every five seconds,
you know, pulling out the phone like giving you an
update of what they just saw and where where they're at,
you know, or you know what what what makeup tip to?
You know that you should buy this makeup or you
should buy this car.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
It's like everybody wants to be like the guy who
gives you the I don't know, the the the reference
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Everybody wants to fifteen minutes, and sometimes it's just best
to just go about your your life and if you
get fifteen minutes, you get it. If you don't, it
is what it is, because you're gonna get frustrated if
you're searching.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
For fame or you know, renowned or you know, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
So I'll tell you what I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
Don't. Don't seek the start of me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
If it's thrussed upon you, sure by all means good, good,
good for you. But if you end up doing end
up getting some big platform then by all means you know,
use it responsibly. But a lot of people just push nonsense.
That's what that's I mean, that's what I see out there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Yeah, somebody's saying nobody is human anymore, not no no authenticity,
or another person says social means you care. This is
simply media, the honest, honest to god. I think a
lot of people getting delusion with social media. I got
delusion with it, right. I'm not gonna work hard on
Facebook to build up a page and get a strong
I had one, I had people following me, I had
a lot of kids, and things were really hot and going.

(01:17:51):
When I first started this, I used to reach so
many people all the time, make posts and you know,
just no general routine. It wasn't no big deal. But
they took it away. Yeah, everything you built they took away.
I watch all these people want. One lady I know of.
I was looking her up for to see what she's
up to. I haven't seen her a long time. She
made a video. I'm sorry, guys. I've had sixteen TikTok

(01:18:14):
accounts in twelve months because every time I do something,
I get, I get I get taken down. She's working
hard to build this up, and she had a great
file and I'm talking like one hundred thousand followers or something.
It was a good following, you know. Uh, and they
just take it away like snap a finger because somebody
got triggered or whatever, some snowflake leftists or whatever says

(01:18:34):
oh oh boo who she said this, And no checks,
no nothing, just boom, You're done. I know a lot
of people that way.

Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
X is probably the most free of site, maybe Rumble
as far as free speech goes. If you want really free,
I would suggest go into something like Odyssey for live videos.
And he was like, you do, but there's no free
speech media out there. Even X is somewhat restricted throttles
and especially during political times like next year, you're gonna

(01:19:04):
see a lot of social media throttle down on political
posts and yeah like that. So it's very frustrating, disheartening,
and after a while you throw up your hands and say,
you know what, I'm not here working my butt off.
So Zuckerberg can sell ad space and that's what it
comes down to. You got He's got people roped in.
See this is like modern day slavery, right, he's got
people roped in, even calls them users. They're his users,

(01:19:27):
not his not his clients, his users, and he's selling now.
He makes billions a year selling ad space because you're
giving up your free time to be there. If you
want to connect with your family and stuff, that's fine,
that's fine. I mean, you know, no big deal. I
mean I would use space for that, and I do.
Sometimes I notice a lot of people run to chats
because chats has been a reach. But I now see

(01:19:49):
Chats is also being monitor to the same way Facebook
is being monitor So it's all junk.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
I use Facebook, your social media now generally to put
out information, you know, not not to uh, not to
try to sit there and promote you know, political thing
or whatever my ideologology, because I mean, everybody has an opinion,
right as soon as you put out a political thought
or an idea, especially if if it's controversial or it
makes people take a stand one way or the other.

(01:20:18):
You know, Let's say you're choosing against an agubernatory race,
you know, between two individuals, and it's like you take
a stance against the end of the against establishment candidate.

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
You're like, you call them out most.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
People are not going to share or like your stuff
because they're like, man, he's calling out the person who's
gonna who's gonna win. And it's like, maybe we should
be speaking truth to power, right and you using our
platform responsibly.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
But it's whenever you do that, it goes nowhere.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Generally people just don't don't gravitate to it, and it
hurts your algorithms. So whenever you do want to put
something out that is really positive and want people to
see it, well, now all of a sudden, trying to
be a Facebook expert, but now your reach is going
to be less because you've had political posts that nobody
associated with. They left it out there to die on
the vine. Now all of a sudden, you're not getting

(01:21:02):
the same traffic. And you put something out there that's
important and meaningful and always nobody's going to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
It's true they throttle. Facebook does not like political posts,
that is their stand. They don't like critical but they'll
let you do it and won't say a word about it.
But they'll throw to you on a heartbeat once you
do it. Yeah, and once you start putting out things
like you know, kitty Cat and puppy dog photos again.
Oh yeah, man, you're getting reach, You're getting friends, people
see your post, and then we even tell you we've
upped your reach, they.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
Actually say.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
I've gotten several of those recently, and I've noticed that
whenever I've not put out anything controversial, it's, for the
most part, I'm getting more reach. More people are seeing
even though even though the followers may not go up,
more people are actually actively made able to see my
videos or whatever I put out there.

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
So there'll be a time down the road whenever I
need to put something out and I want a lot
of people to see it, and maybe only that one time,
and of course my algorithm may change after that. But
there's gonna be a time whenever I need them to
see something and it may be controversial. Uh So, But
for now, I'm going to try to stay positive on
social media.

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(01:22:27):
n X. We are there as well. Let's see. Dirk
says free speech is a given as Reagan said that
people are responsible. That's absolutely true. And when we talk
about free speech on the platform, somebody owns, some corporation owns. Yeah,
they have a right to lay down the rules and
the dictation for all the other stuff they own it.
There's not a whole lot we can do about it.

(01:22:48):
But I'll tell you one way. You can get free
speech if you really want it, but you're going to
have to pay for it. Build a website. You can
say what you want to do on your own website.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, that's true. I mean
for the most part. I mean, but you got to
get traffic to it though, I mean, you just building
a website.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
No, I mean, however, people are going to know about it.
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
So a lot of people use social media posts and stuff,
but instead of making a political you know, hey, you
can catch my talks over here and they try to
frag over and things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Right right now, that's true, But people have to want
to gravitate over there, you know what I mean. If
it's you're like, okay, one step and I'm over there.
But if it's like two, three, four or five step,
people are like, yeah, that's too much work to go
to see your stuff, so they won't even come over there,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
You know, sometimes it depends. I mean a lot of
people put a hook, you know, like they'll start an
article if you're doing a blog, post, whatever, and they'll
get that look in there. If somebody's interested, they'll go
if they really want to read it, they think it's
going to be good. Another thing people can do is
there's a social media site called gab and to my understanding,
that's probably a free speech platform as of right now

(01:23:50):
that people can use, and those that are using enjoy
it a lot. And uh, again, you got a funnel
traffic over because they don't have the biggest audience over there,
so you got to find a way to funnel people
into it. Sometimes it's a matter of embedding and things
like that, but there's ways to get people there. I
think YouTube does a lot of uh you can do

(01:24:10):
you know, write stuff up, make posts and stuff like.
That's not just all videos. You know, you can commentary
under your videos and stuff and sometimes maybe if you
put out something light on video, you know, those sixty
second things or whatever. Uh, that stuff kind of good.
I haven't put the energy into this stuff yet. I
thought about doing it, but here again, I'm not chasing.
I'm not in the mood to chase, but I will
be here in a month or two. I'm thinking I'm

(01:24:32):
trying to ram something up, so I probably will be
starting to work on some of this.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
There you go. That's not a bad idea. Get get
your get your message out there. But yeah, like I said,
I'm just trying to be more positive on social media.
So whenever I do need to put out that thing
that I need people to see it, you know that
may be controversial or maybe considered negative, but I want
people to be able to see it, you know, as
many eyeballs as possible.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
So that that's.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
Why I've kind of stayed away from getting you know,
all about politics on the social media because I'm like,
you know, who's really going to see it anyway? Most
people that are on my social media people generally agree
with me, whether they engage with it or not. It
is besides the point, you know, So why am I
going to put out things that are controversial every day?
It's like, oh, that's the guy who's always just going
off about this or that.

Speaker 6 (01:25:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
So I just try to say positive, put out good information,
and then whenever I need to be negative, I'll use
it at appropriate time. And I think next election cycle
I may need to be put out something negative that
I need a lot of eyeballs to see.

Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, I think some things people do
too is a network. Yeah that might. That might be
a tactic to use. Let's see Crook says you do
not serve the Congress of Congress and Senate serve you
or do you bow the King's call me Revere. Absolutely,
you're right in the logic. However, it's to my understanding,
and this is a state we're at now. We're like

(01:25:52):
a state of corporatocracy leading into technocracy or a combination
of both. And I think Congress is to my understanding,
Congress probably answers to corporations about eighty percent of the
time when it comes to passing the legislation and stuff
like that, and a lot of that has to do
with corporations are paying their way. You know, we the
people don't have those kinds of funds. But the irony

(01:26:13):
is we're shopping at those places where these corporations that
have those guided funds are using the money that we
make purchases with the fund these people to get their
way and then they turn the screws to us with it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Absolutely, So I don't know what to say on that
chalking about mister Charlie. Yes it is Anna, thank you
for mentioning that. She's you know, it's a terrible news.
That's you know, a good man died today for no
good reason at all.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
Yep, just sitting there and you know, just trying to
engage people and what he thought, you know, his beliefs,
and somebody just took a pot shot out even got him.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
You know. So you know, joke that quick, that quick.

Speaker 6 (01:26:52):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
And and another thing we talked about last week. You know,
people talk about a good guy with a gun, good
guy with a gun. It's like in a situation like that,
you know, if you had even a dozen people with
good guys with guns that were just dispersed in the
audience that were just attending the event. There would be
nothing they could do in that situation. And I don't
know how many people I saw on Facebook and social
media today say oh, a good guy with a gun,

(01:27:16):
And I'm like, there was nothing anybody could have done
to have stopped that person from shooting at him.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Not not on that case. He That was from my understanding.
I was looking at a over somebody drafted up. You know,
we're about to layout where Charlie Kirk was sitting on
stage and how the buildings were layout, and they were
indicating it was from the rooftop. Okay, so nobody knew
That's why he got away with it, right, He was
concealed at the rooftop and nobody knew he was there
he came or.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
Right, So no, no, no good guy with a gun
in that crowd would have been able to do anything.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
It wouldn't have helped.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
And had had a dozen people started pulling guns out
and then all of a sudden, I see somebody else
with a gun. It's like, is that the bad guy?
Do you engage that person? And what about all the
people sitting around them? You know, so so to say
the people that just say, good guy with a gun,
it's like you're missing a lot of points here and
and you're missing reality. And in a sense, I'm not
saying you shouldn't have a gun to be able to

(01:28:11):
protect yourself, but in that type of situation, good guy
with a gun does nothing, I'm sorry, unless you can
see that perpetrator of that potential threat and engage them
before they can fire off around then you know that
then then that's that's really the only way and the
only way to do that is have have a you know,
tactical advantage, have a higher advantage point have you know,
have eyes on on on you know, different rooftops, which

(01:28:34):
Charlie Kirk security didn't have that that that ability to
do that like secret servers has that ability to be
able to expand out you know what i mean, create
centric considentric rings of security.

Speaker 6 (01:28:43):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
But outside of that, a good guy with the guns,
you know, just not gonna stop anything.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
They did. They did have security there, right, they had
on staffed security, but cloth and U are you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
But not enough to secure it like on rooftops and
things like that. They probably thought, well it's locked, it's
it's good to go. If if the shot did come
from a rooftop, you know, probably didn't have law enforcement
up there for sure. And Charlie kirk security detail is
essentially large enough to secure him in a general area
where he's standing and get him out of the area.
That's essentially what they're there for. Private security like that.

(01:29:20):
You know, there'd be nothing that they could have done
to engage a target on a rooftop either no I mean,
you know, or a threat I should say threat on
a rooftop, not target.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Let me correct, yeah, correct, So they when you got
Secret Service, they scour the internet, they scour or social
media posts and things like that to make termber nations.
He's going to be a threat if there's a threat,
and you know, they try to figure out things that
you know before him. But when they go in there
to do they're trained to check the area and stuff.

(01:29:50):
Although we saw Trump, we saw Trump here raw not
too long ago. Well, he about took the same shot
as Charlie Crooked did today and uh, Secret Service is
on staff there. So I don't know if this is
being a little bit lax, it's oversight or what.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
Was going on you mean with the Charlie Kirk situation.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Uh, well, kind of both. Because you think there was
a threat, you had that much security detail. I mean,
Charlie Kirk has on seven eight man team and you
have a staff team maybe another seven eight people.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
Yeah, I can tell you how it works.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
I mean, if he had a private security firm, you know,
he probably had guys that were around him in the
vehicle he's traveling in, probably had a couple of guys
that were on the ground in advance, you know. But
but a small security detail like that is very limited,
and they generally focused on around where their principle is
going to be. They don't go check rooftops, so they
don't they don't have the capability, the manpower, and they

(01:30:43):
don't have the equipment. So basically they're basically glorified bodyguards
around you where you're generally or working maybe a rope line,
or sitting at an event. Where you're sitting there giving
a speech, you're keeping people from attacking you close up,
somebody from far off, You're you're not gonna be able
to stop that for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
So when in twenty twenty, when President Trump came when
he was still president the first time running for office.
He came over to mass Manchester, newhampsheduld expect he would
during the primary, and I was standing out there on
the streets. I had took pictures of it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
We had uniformed officers, local officers on the streets with
fully automatic firearms.

Speaker 6 (01:31:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
We had men on rooftops of buildings, the highest buildings
near the Verison. What was the Rising Center, I think
it's not the US and H Center. And they were
on the rooftops and you had helicopters overhead. They weren't
playing any games. It wasn't like it was over there
in Butler, Pennsylvania by any men.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
But Holden says here the Secret Service doesn't protect pundits.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
We know that. We're saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
The difference between saying having Secret Service or a federal
law enforcement agency that protects a principle is quite a
bit different than a small security detail for a political
punnit like Charlie Kirk or say a movie star.

Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
They may have a small team.

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
Of people, but they don't have the ability to project,
for the lack of better word, from a military project
power outside of the small bubble that they that they're
in in that moment, if that makes sense, So his
bodyguards in that moment wouldn't have been able to protect
him from a shot on the rooftops.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
What I'm saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, there would.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Be nothing that they could have done in that situation.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
In hindsight like this, and you would think all the
stuff that goes on, if you're going to have people
like you know, all punnets like Charlie Kirk, you think
they would have cameras on the rooftops looking for you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
But you Charlie Kirk's detail doesn't have those types of
things available to them. Imagine how much that would cost
to be able to do something like that. Plus they
wouldn't have the authority to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
I'm talking about the facilities. I mean, well, sure, but
that you can get, you can get temporary cameras.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
I'm sure, I'm sure. But you know, here's the thing.
They probably sign a waiver saying, hey, you're you're going
to be responsible for X, Y and Z at holding
this event here.

Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
So I've seen a couple of people ask when are
we pushing back? I'm not sure the context with they're asking,
if you're referring to things like happening to Charlie Kirk
or push him back on the left or what you
mean exactly when we were pushing back that we're taking
back our rights or but if you want to clarify,
maybe we can talk about that. So I'm not sure right.

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
Right, right right, but you know we can.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
All I say here in hindsight, they could put this
and that. But you're talking about a lot of money,
a lot of resources, and it's like, how often do
they have high profile people sitting in that exact spot
that they would need all that?

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Yeah. No, like I said, it's easy enough to get
bulletproof glasses for in front of your your punt that
your your person speaking, whether he's got a podium or
sitting in a chair like that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
This little university and and Utah would need bulletproof glass
available for I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
I'm thinking if I was traveling around and I had
to kind of thing, Charlie Kirk cat in hindsight, I mean,
this is just sure I could buy some bulletproof glass
to put up in a stand right in front of me.

Speaker 4 (01:33:58):
How much money does it cost to do that?

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
And also, at the same time, then the messages is,
you know, I'm separate from you, I'm above you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
You know, that's why people don't want to do it.
They fill a disconnect. Sure, but at the same time,
you can't continue on. You can't be a man in
the arena if you're no longer here with us.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
You know, I get that, I get that, But you're
talking about you know, how much does there's a ballistic
armor costs? Right, a lot of money then to ship
it just didn't have the people to set it up
everywhere you go. I mean he may do three you know,
it's several several engagements in a row. It's like your
bolproof glass isn't gonna make it to every one of
those places. So now now you're talking about multimillion dollars

(01:34:38):
just to protect the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
I don't think it'd be that much. You know, six
feet three feet pieces a three by two.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
No d You gotta think how many events does he
do on a on a weekly basis, how much travel?
How you're getting that that those pieces of ballistic armor
from point A to point b.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Oh wait, you know a minute, isn't there I think,
if I'm not mistaking, isn't there facilities that offer this
uh service? They have stuff like this for events.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
Probably so, but now you're talking about how much money
is going to go into securing one person or you know,
you get to the point where you don't have enough
funds and then to and then to do all the
things that turning Point was trying to do as well.
I think we're getting in the weeds on on, you know,
trying to secure because think of all the events that
that he's been through in his life where nothing happened

(01:35:28):
outside of people just yelling at him.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
I know what you're saying, he's doing the nationwide events.
In fact it was was it the Something America tour?
Wasn't there what it was? So he was touring so
but he had a venue. So I mean it's a
matter of sending that glass ahead of you if it's
going to be in a pickup truck or whatever, or
maybe with the other gear like you're like your speaker
and your your micn.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
But John, you think about he is an event in
Utah today. Let's say he was doing something tomorrow in Florida.
How are you getting this all that point A to
point B.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
It can't overnight it, you know, so logistically it becomes
not feasible for you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Know, well, ladies and gentlemen. I'm going to make an
announcement today. I'm going to start my bulletproof glass applying company.
I just I can't do that. I wish I could,
but it would be a good business if somebody had
the means to construct that, because it's really what we need.
And I think there are event companies that do offer that.
That's what I was getting. I don't know what the
cost is. I don't know how reasonable the cost is,
but I think there are event companies that do. They

(01:36:29):
offer staging, and they offer you know, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
Think you may need an event.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Well, they built Trump's event and they probably.

Speaker 4 (01:36:36):
I've worked right with those people, so I know what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
So I think they do. They do supply. Yeah, it's
a cost, but I mean it's better to afford the
cost that it is to either that you're going to
start going to social media, I mean doing webinars and
stuff and events online, right.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
And then it doesn't have the same appeal. Then you
have just you know, tanks at that point, right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Tanks, Right, we're rolling in a war takes, ladies and gentlemen.
We're offer we're claiming on the taking now to offer
the pun at the mic.

Speaker 4 (01:37:08):
No, but you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
I mean, if you try to do something online purely online,
you know eventually your audience is gonna taper off.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
Oh it's going to tank.

Speaker 4 (01:37:14):
Yeah, you need to keep to keep that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
You know that doing live shows is how you keep.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
That nothing, to keep it fresh. What he was doing
was the same thing as a music band that does
live concerractions and stuff, right.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Right, right, Yeah, you're going out there, keep it fresh, right,
you know, this is this is how you make your money,
go out and selling the merchandise.

Speaker 4 (01:37:30):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
So, I'm saying people talk about drones, but the problem
is drones can be weaponized. So oh yeah, if you're
trying to use drones for surveillance, I mean, I I
don't know, because I'm afraid that the New York didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:37:45):
Yeah, you get to the point where everybody's like, why
I need my drone? I needed this, I need all
these things. It's like, well, you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
Know, I'm thinking, if if you have a drone flying up,
then nobody's gonna be suspicious of a second drone flying
around and all of a sudden, right right, so.

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
It gets it gets to be the whole good guy
with a gun. But in a crowded situation like that
good guy with a gun, if you're not right up
on the next to the bad guy with the gun,
you're pretty much you're you're not gonna do anything.

Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
You're no good to anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
Good good for you have a gun, but you're not
gonna be able to do anything to stop anything.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
But if you're coordinated. And that's what we saw the breakdown.
You I can't remember his name now, he was holding
going back towards Secret Service in Trump. That was the breakdown,
wasn't it is they didn't sufficiently.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
Do Let's be clear, individual audience members showing up at
any any type of event, whatever it may be a
political event, sporting event, whatever, those people have not coordinated
with any If they have guns, they've not coordinated with
anybody else's security plan or anything like that. You're an
individual with a gun, and you know, in most situations

(01:38:51):
having it isn't going to help, you know, stop stop
the bad guy who's on the other side of the arena.

Speaker 4 (01:38:57):
I mean, what what good are you you have?

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
What I was gonna go allude to was that during
the Trump campaign and Butler, Uh, there was a breakdown
of communication. So they're running two different signals of communications,
local law enforcement and Secret Service. So they did have
a breakdown that way. And what I was thinking was
with the drones, as long as you have the staffing
are on communication and then sync and they know there's
only gonna be supposed to be one drone and what

(01:39:19):
he's been referring to drone would and wolop on the
rooftop could have surveiled the different areas that were vulnerable.
But I don't have to do all the footwork have
been quicker, easier, and uh, I've been a bit a
preventive measure. You just mainly you could have been about
communication that hey we have one drone, this is it,
this is what it looks like. We've had a nice
pretty red bull on it or something, so you can
identify if another one shows up straight down right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Well, there's also you know, electronic countermeasures that you can
use as well, the jam signals things like that you
can actually fly that on a drone that actually can
have that signal uh in a given area and he
could just fly a pattern you know, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Yeah, yeah, So it just flies one direct pattern, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
And it can deny access to many especially most commercial
drones for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
Well like geo fencing, right, you can geo fence out
other drones, It wouldn't be able to enter that space.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
Right, wouldn't be able to enter that space, right, absolutely,
you know that that is you know, but we're getting
into the weeds here.

Speaker 4 (01:40:15):
You know, we.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Should have a whole lot of what ifs and and
speculation going on at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
I dare say with with they probably used the security
plan that they've used it many many times, has worked
in so many cases. You know, there was one instance
that something happened that you know, you couldn't plan for
with the security detail that you had, So you know,
I don't think we could blame those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
So I wanted to read this Todd. We're about eight
forty seven pm Eastern time, so before the show wins,
I'd like to bring this up because this came off
from social media site. I think I took this off
from Facebook. It was Donald Trump for President site, so
it wasn't the Donald Trump was the actual real trumpet
some you know site, but he put up a thing
same breaking the official Black Lives Matter account has posted

(01:40:59):
a video stating that black people have a right to
violence amid mass outrage over the slaying of around a
Zerutzka at the hands of black mil and Charlotte, North Carolina.
So the speakers said, black people have a right to violence.
All oppressed people have a right to violence. And I
am going to tell you something. It's like the right
to pee. You got to have the right place, you

(01:41:20):
got to have the right time, you got to have
the right appropriate situation. I'm absolutely convinced that this is it.
This is the mentality of some people in our country. Bro.
They're pushing for it, and they're saying they have a
right to violence because what they're a minority. They feel oppressed.
You know, freedom is how you think, right. I mean,
I'm not I mean utah, but I'm just saying in general,

(01:41:41):
just out loud, freedom is how you think. We're prisoners
in our own minds sometimes. Yeah, have a program from
our childhood be obedient, to obey authority and all this
other stuff. So your learning experience is how you're going
to be as an adult. Are programmed into you between
the ages of zero and six years of age or so,
and a lot of people kind of can't break those bonds.

(01:42:02):
They become very obedient, they're very complicit. Uh, they get
used to their way of life and stuff. But there's
a lot of things that kind of trap us, right,
you know, and a lot of it has to do
with legislation and regulations and Wolstein with some of these,
because it's really not about the legislation. It's about convincing
you you don't have a chance. Like guns. Okay, there
are a lot of guns that wrote laws that that

(01:42:24):
have been opposed by scotus, but the law is still
remain on the books. When people read the laws, they oh,
my god, look at I can't do this because the
law is right here. In truth, it's been overturned, they
just didn't remove it. So freedom is a matter of
how you think. If you if you don't think as
a free person, you're not a free person, right. And
when you start thinking and derelic behaviors like this, it's it's.

Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
And if you're looking to always look look to a
government official or law enforcement to for guidance to tell
you you can or can't do something. Most law enforcement
is probably gonna say, yeah, you can't do that, you know,
But they're not gonna they're not gonna embolden you or
anything like that. I mean, they're they're just not going
to they're not gonna they're not gonna engage in it.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
They're gonna say, now, you can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
You know, just what you have to ask permission. Bro,
If you have to get to permit, the answers always know. So,
now what's the question?

Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
You know, right, do it until somebody tells you you can.

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
And I'm not saying be be be idiotic about things. Yet,
if it's certainly gonna be unsafe, you're gonna put people's
lives in jeopardy. Yeah, don't just do it in that
those situations, I get that. But for the most part,
if it's like a gray area and you're you're not
looking to put anybody's lives in jeopardy, you know, go
ahead and go ahead and do it. If you get
caught and it's wrong, guess what, pay the penalty whatever.

(01:43:36):
You know, That's the way I look at it. You know,
if it's not explicitly illegal and you want to do something,
you know, do what your wallet can handle. Essentially, in
the Army, we said, you know, do what your career
can handle. You know, do what your wallet can handle. Essentially,
if if it's wrong, you know you be ready to
pay that fine. You can't be like, well I didn't know,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Well that's an issue too in our society though. I mean,
there's a guy who Massachusetts because he got pulled over
traveling through Massachusetts last time. My checksgo just made a
ruling saying you have a right to travel and you
have a right to transport your firearms from point A
to point B as long as they are legal firearms
within the departing state and the state of arrival. And
so if you traveled through the state, you have a

(01:44:18):
right to travel with your firearms. However, it doesn't mean
you can just do anything willy neely. It's not he
can just go loaded through there, hanging him out the window,
flashing them off and stuff. Doing what you want to
do while you're traveling. You still got to buy by
certain rules, like how they got to distorted in functions
like they be wise about it. Some indications said that's
not entirely true, and I don't know why. It was
something I was looking at a while back ago, but

(01:44:38):
it was too my understanding. That's how it is. But
yet there's a guy in Massachusetts was traveling through Massachusetts.
They searched his trunk for firearms and found that they weren't.
They were illegal firearms in the state of Massachusetts. And
he's still sitting in jail down there two months later
without bail.

Speaker 4 (01:44:53):
Yeah, that's ridiculous, ridiculous. So you had a few minutes
left there, John. For for the listeners who don't know, Colonel
Chris Whyitett is still in England jarli o'd England for
the Women's Rugby World Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
I think he'll be back in the end of the month.
I think he'll be back, so I think next week
he'll still be there. So he'll only be on the
during the first hour, I believe. But for South African
the viewers and listeners, Hey, we really appreciate you guys
tuning in for him and of course tuning into the
show weekly. Appreciate it very much, without a doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Absolutely so. I kind of think, I don't know about you,
but when I when I look at this case with
Charlie Kirk, I kind of think this really should pull
conservatives tighter together, don't you think. I kind of I've
noticed that there's kind of a trend that people I
think are leaning towards the right because of another these
stuff they're seeing.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
Going right, Here's here's what I'm hoping is not going
to happen, and I see it will happen. I think
the establishment is going to capitalize on this, you know,
like you just said, pulling us together, rally together, stick
behind the incumbents that we need to get out of office,
you know, because we need to stick together, you know.

(01:46:03):
And then they're going to talk about the upstarts who
are you know, good conservatives trying to run for office
that are calling out the established, and they're gonna be like, oh,
look at the rhetoric gets violence, remember Charlie, And they're
going to try to use that to their advantage.

Speaker 4 (01:46:15):
And we can't allow that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Well there there is that play.

Speaker 4 (01:46:18):
Cannot allow that. I'll tell you what it's going to happen.
We can't allow it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
I don't endorse much. I don't endorse anything as a rule.
I do put up a couple of ad spots and
things like that, just have affiliates, you know that, you know,
we might get a kickback. People actually went there, which
really doesn't happen. But I put him up anyway at
any rate. There is a thing called Forgotten History on YouTube.
He's a retired veteran of both the Army and Marines,

(01:46:45):
and he does the best work making videos within an
hour or less, some of them only twenty minutes, and
he'll do the best videos. I was watching one on
Lindsey Graham. I didn't get the whole thing because I
was getting distracted at dogs and things were going on.
But he was talking about Lindsay Graham and basically what
a flip flopper he is, and he was pointing out
all his flaws and how he behaves and how he's

(01:47:07):
really not a viable candidate. You know, he's for trumpets
against Trump and bad mouse Trump and now he's called trumpet.
You know, the nonsensical thing's going on. This guy does
that great. If you want to know insights and you
want to get some good data and information, this guy
does his research. He does a lot. You can tell
he does a lot of work, has a lot of
effort into these things. But I would check that out.

(01:47:28):
I would refer folks to that. That's a really good
out Forgotten History on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
Yeah, but the number of these people man and have
just been in there way too long, and it's like
any coattail they can jump to, you know what I mean,
It's like, Okay, I'm over here, I'm safe. I can
get through it. An another election cycle. You know, if
you're in the Senate, you get six years. So it's like, Okay,
I got reelected, I got six years. I got to
find some more coattails.

Speaker 4 (01:47:49):
And that's what they do. Man, A lot of these folks.
Linza Graham's no different.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
What do you think about Loomis out of Wyoming net deal?
What's that since you Loomis?

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
No, I haven't seen enough to be able to say,
you know, can you give you anything outside of what
I could give you about Lindsay Graham?

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
Or you're not up on her. Yeah, she's not been
in there that long, but now she was here a
couple of months ago she introduced the bill trying to
give immunity to creators of artificial intelligence in the event
that some disastrous happens. Of course, there's certain protocols to follow,
and it's not an easy way out, you know, as
long as you're following certain protocols and stuff transparency and

(01:48:28):
things like that. But if there's some unforeseen incidents in
your coding or something and people die. It doesn't necessarily
fall on the developer. It falls on the user of
the artificial intelligence. So if a doctor's using artificial intelligence,
patient suddenly dies because the artificial intelligence didn't work it
it was wrong and it's coding or something, then the
developer will be out the hook, but the doctor may not.

(01:48:51):
So you're putting the onus of the responsibility of this
on the person using the artificial intelligence as a professional,
as opposed to the developer who should have known that
it was malfunctioning. It's kind of like you remember a
few years ago that airplane that crashed and the reason
why I crashed because it was misreading something to do
with the the altitude and stuff like that. I tried
to make correction and the like, what's it doing? What

(01:49:13):
he had to overwrite, which is no kill switch because
it's all fly by wire. There's nothing mechanical anymore. So
even if he could kill it, he couldn't fly the plane.
So now he's fight the plane trying to correct for
the planes trying to correct, so they're fighting one another
for correction. Ultimately, the the uh the one out.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
And nothing you're pulling against you know, you're it's not
about how much strength you have because you're you're fighting
a computer essentially at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
Well, the thing, yeah, it's all based on actual waiters
and things like that and devices that you're not gonna beat.
You're there's way beyond your reach, right, So yeah, he
even if it's attached to that yoke, but it's not.
It's all electronics. So you're right, it's nothing. It's like
a joystick.

Speaker 4 (01:49:57):
Yeah, it's nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
Ye So yeah, but you know, so the developer messes up,
but yeah, he's off the hook because well, I shown
that I did it in good faith. But people are
dead because of you, you know, but you get to
get off scott free and walk away with millions of
dollars all the way bank. But who's responsible for another
guy who built the airplane and used your your software?

Speaker 4 (01:50:18):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:50:19):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
To me, it's a ridiculous bill. I've had nothing against
Senator the Lumis for the most part, but once I
read that bill, I'm like, this is trash. Yeah, this
is just trash. You know, the same thing given immunity,
the immunity to these these vaccine creators and turn around
and force people to take these vaccines. And we know
that a lot of things were adversarial about these vaccines. Now,

(01:50:41):
we were being censored when we were talking about it,
you know, several years back, we were being our posts
were being in take down, our sites were being taked
down off social media. Totally. We were wrong. The government's
always right. They even tried to change the definition of
the word vaccine to suit their agenda during the course
of everything, got caught doing it, took it down. So

(01:51:02):
we were right all along. And now we're seeing adverse effects,
but there's no there's no accountability for it because they
get immunity. This is nonsensical. You know, this goes back
to what I was saying. If the government's going to
favor corporations at the rate of eighty percent or so,
and that's kind of a ballpark figure. There's no exact
you know, you can't quite put it on. But some
people put some stuff here. I can't remember who put
that particular study together. But if they're favoring corporations over

(01:51:24):
independent people in the interest of society, something's wrong with that.
I agree, that's a bad government. We've got a road government.
Something's wrong. What we got is called a corporate capture
of our United States government corporate pocracies. Well, this would
be referred to as corporate capture because they're capturing Congress
or kept. So that's it, ladies and gentlemen. We've run
it right up to the end. We hope you got some. No,

(01:51:46):
but please pray for Charlie Kirk and or for the
family of Charlie Kirk, and as they do well, as
always have a good week, be good. If you can't
be good, will be good at it. And were gone.

Speaker 4 (01:52:02):
Fifty King

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
Fifty Jens twy