The Common Sense Conservatives

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters, every Wednesday
evening from seven to eight pm right here on WSMN
fifteen ninety AM, WUSNN ninety five point three FM and
streaming live on WUSMN dot Live. Making sense of the
inverted reality we are subject to you every day. The

(00:24):
Common Sense Conservatives are here to help bring me back
to reality. Now your host Chris Wyatt, Todd McKinley, and
John Golovin.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
All right, hey, folks, welcome back to the Common Sense Conservative.
It is Wednesday night here on WSMN. It is the
Common Sense Conservative, joined by my co host John Grovener
holds down the studio there in Nashua, New Hampshire. John,
how are you tonight?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
I am doing well, Todd, All we got named. It
was passing by me, but as long as I got
the microphone, I figured I go ahead and get it
out of the way. We did have, Oh, since you'll last,
We did have earlier last week, twenty three year old
kid decided it was a good idea to it now
to his roommate that he was going to use weapons
of mass destruction against the governor of New Hampshire. He

(01:06):
did apprehend him for that one. He was proving evidence
and everything, showing photos and everything on his Instagram to
his friend. Not too bright, I don't think. But at
least his stupidity got him caught. That's what's important there.
And then, of course everybody here in Nashville probably knows
that the country club was assaulted when one lost, one
life lost, and two injured. Apparently this assailant, twenty three

(01:31):
years of age, decided that he was going to attack
an employee with a gun and announced free Palestine among
it all. I guess when you're going to do stupid things,
that's the war cry of the season right now.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, sounds sounds like, I mean a little bit ridiculous.
I guess you throw people off your sin of how
stupid you are. If you say free Palestine right there,
they stop looking at how stupid you are. They're like, oh,
it must be just a radical. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I think it was my understanding that he was trying
to just throw a lot of noise out there confused people.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
You don't, Yeah, I imagine you have muddled the investigation.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
I'm sure, what does a guy hit him with the chair.
That was great. I think they knocked the gun out
of his hand and then he fled. So somebody picks
up a chair and hits him with like, no, not today, bro,
already got one of us. You're not getting no more
good good deal.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yes, Colonel Chris Wyatt. There he's in Uh. Where are
you at? You're in Utah's That was it?

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Right? For a I know I am in the jeb
state of Idaho. I'm in Hayley, Idaho, in Sun Valley.
Tonight tomorrow I'll be at the Craters of the Moon
then heading down Twin Falls where I'll be filming a
documentary with the South African Television Network, meeting with some
refugees from South Africa, and I'll be linking up with
Billy Paynter sometime over the next couple of days.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
No, there you go, So, can you anything you can
tell us about the documentary or is it just kind
of whatever whatever they want to cover.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
No, it's it's not whatever they want to cover. It's
specifically focused about the dasper of the afrikannor people who
left South Africa. And there are a lot of South
Africans who are living abroad because they can't survive in
South Africa because the racist and bigotry and laws against them,
the violence that's there, it's pretty horrific. So a lot
of South Africans, if they have to build it, have
been leaving South Africa for some time. It's been going

(03:09):
on since nineteen ninety four. The pace really picked up
in the last decade, and a few million South Africans
live abroad. It's a pretty significant number. And so yeah,
as I understand, this is what they told me. I'm
not being braggadocious, but the folks contacted me. Out the
blue is where the well known television person I from
South African wrote to me personally and said, hey, Colonel White,

(03:30):
we're doing a documentary and we'd like you to participate
in this. And I said, okay, what's it all about?
Where do you want to do this when I come
back to South Africa or do I need to come
to the States told me about it and he said
he's coming over here and they asked me to come
up to I know they could have interviewed me elsewhere,
but they asked I'm glad to asked me come here
because I get to knock out a lot of stuff.
Turns out I know everybody, and I know apparently I'm

(03:51):
on my stream earlier is those ladies like I live
in Boise. I'm like, I just left Boise. I landed
there at twelve and just left. I didn't know you
live there. And then and of course Billy Painter and
then some refees over here, plus one of my viewers
in Salt Lake. I'm going down there, but they asked
me to come over, and yeah, they pay for my flight,
which is nice. So I picked up the rest of
the stuff, which is you know, but it's nice out here.

(04:11):
The leaves are starting to change, already falls upon us,
and I'm sure we'll see some snow in the higher
elevations while I'm out here. I'm gonna One of the
what cool things happened today is when I flew I
have flowed into Jackson Hole. And when you come into
Jackson Hole, you do a turn and you see the
Grand Tee Tons at an oblique level as you're flying in.
I've never flown over the Grand Tee Time Mountains until today.

(04:33):
I've flowed north, going to Washington and Vancouver, and I've
flown south many times over Colorado such but I've never
flown over the Grand Tee Tons. Today I've got beautiful
photographs of the Grand Tee Toime Mountains, Polter Bay, and
you can see Yellowstone off to the north. It's incredible.
But yeah, so I'm here to do that, and I
must spend a week doing some other work from my
channel on my program, and so it should go very well.
I'm looking forward to it. But next week I'll be

(04:56):
back in Idaho. In between the time I had to
Utah and Wyoming, Montana and.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Then back in Iadho.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
So when I come back from the show next week,
I'll be once again in Idaho, but from the gym state.
That's where I'm at.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
There, he goes, getting around. I mean, you're over in England,
Jolly of England. So how did the World Cup Rugby go?
Women's Rugby World Cup? How did that go? Who won?
And what should we be looking for for the next
time around for Team USA? Any luck there?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Well? Team USA just missed out on advancing to the
knockout round on point differential because they were blown out
in their first game. If they've kept the score marchin better,
they could advance. They made playoffs, but they didn't make playoffs. Nonetheless,
they still performed pretty well in the end. They got
a tie with Australia and then they beat Tongue up
pretty well and just missed out going in. But it's

(05:43):
not over yet. Saturday is the final and the final
will be Canada versus England, which is a rematch of
the twenty fourteen Women's World Cup, which was held in
Paris at the Stott Jean Bln. I was actually there
at that World Cup. That's when Maugli Harvey used to
play for Canda. She was amazing. England won that World
Cup and Canada has never won it, so they have
a chance and I think that they can actually win it.
They're very good. England of course the best team the world,

(06:04):
but Canna's number two and and they've performed very well.
So it's Saturday and so that's still going on. But
that's the last game. And I was there for the quarterfinals.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
And interesting, Yeah, so John, you were talking about a
minute ago about somebody threatening to use weapons of mass
destruction against their governor against the governor there. What kind
of weapons were they were they talking about. Was it
just like a bomb, pipe bomb or what were they
talking about?

Speaker 3 (06:28):
He had ideas that he's going to create some homemade
pipe bombs. He bought a bunch of you know, screws
and bolts and stuff and had some sort of From
my understanding, he was metal tube, so it wasn't typical
pipe bombs right from the nineteen eighties. Was just PVC
pipe of caps and a detonator, right, so that it
would go off. But yeah, you know they I don't
know what he was constructing exactly, but he had some

(06:50):
sort of concoction in Mind're.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
You sure about that?

Speaker 4 (06:53):
I mean, you did say weapons of mass destruction? Are
you sure that wasn't just democratic legislation? That's usually weapon masters?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Right?

Speaker 3 (07:00):
They could be pretty destructive, you know, especially draining in
the pockets of taxpayers.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Indeed, indeed, or having girls molested in the restrooms yep.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Right, yeah, and then have the parents arrested whenever they
come and speak out out of a school board beating.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Hey Todd, So yeah, exactly. So I went through Chicago's
o hair on my way here, because I came from
nowhere and I went to nowhere to the place in
the middle of nowhere. So interesting thing. It seems like
every time I go throw a hair airport, probably because
I'm alert I see someone famous. Everybody gets here there
the last trip I went through there, out walks Mike Tyson,

(07:35):
and I'm like, hey, Mike, Hey, Cary, we took a
picture today, exactly today. I walked out of the plane
and I saw three police officers, two next to the gentleman,
an older gentleman wearing a ball cap, and another one
over by McDonald's. And the older generman walked down McDonald's like,
that's fricking Mike Pence. I went to the bathroom, I
came out, he got his order from McDonald's. So I

(07:55):
walked across the two cops over there, and I said,
can you imagine that being the vice president? I states,
the only person that recognizes you as a veteran. Nobody
knew was he's been pictured of nobody's in paying me
and never mind. So I was talking to them. He
came over to the other cops while I was talking
to him, and I greeted him, and he greeted me,
and the cops like, hey, sir, this is this is

(08:16):
the count Intelligence Offices, Colonel Wyatt, and he's like really,
And we talked for like five minutes, and the Vice
President gave me his coin.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Oh there you go, Yeah, there you go. I've got
the very same one. That's very cool. Yeah yeah, I
had a signature on the back.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
So I just thought i'd share with you because I
know that you were close to the halls of power.
I haven't been that close to the halls of power
in some time. The last time was when I was
writing for the president. You know, but Dad, you don't
actually see the president. You go over to Langley for
that r. Yes. The previous time was actually no, that's
not that was before them. So the last time I
saw was Bush and Libraria. He came up and we talked,
and Secret Services freaking out, but that was cool.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
He just running the Mike pants, you know, just getting something.
Mcdone Donald's at O'Hare whenever, whenever he was Vice pred
just a few years ago, he'd be landing on Air
Force too, on a tarmac somewhere, and I was just
like you.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
I've also confirmed the mystery. It's not just Donald Trump
that loves McDonald's. Apparently it's Mike Pence too.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
There you go, he picked up some habits for Trump.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Well, I mean, not everybody likes him. But but because
January six But I don't think people understand what what
he's able to do in January sixth, So I don't
like what he's done since then and what he's been
saying about the President recently that's uncalled for. But his
service up through that time in his first term wasn't
honorable when he was the governor, in the when he
was a congressman. So it's still pretty cool. And I
mean know this is you know what these mean, Todd?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
And also the other cool thing about to is because
if I told people like be like, you know, so
I ran into Mike Pence at Chicago Airport. Now you
did you lie? You're lied, man, you lied, you lied?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
You bought it?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
You bought it at a souvenir show.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah right, No, no, no, I just I know you
can't get him.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
You're running online probably about sixty seventy bucks, depending on
where you get it from, maybe a hundred bucks online.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Well that's not going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
No, No, you brought up Mike Pence on that, you know.
And the thing about it is he's kind of probably
has a little bit of animosity because when Donald Trump
told him he could do things he rightfully can't do
during January did him during the voting counts right? He
really kind of threw Mike Pence under the bus, and
really Mike Pence was right and what he said. And

(10:28):
so it's kind of like you almost have destroyed his
opportunities to ever be president or run for election because
he's turned so many people against him.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well, but but Pence hasn't helped himself with lately his president.
Pence has been saying about a lot of stupid stuff
about the president, of my view, and hasn't helped his situation.
And I get it's probably out of bitterness, but he
should have just he should have took the highroad, which
he's done in the past. She just took the high roud. So,
but you're right, the president threw him under the bus.
And the president supporters would be aggre to us right

(10:59):
now if we're if we're defending pens and we're not
defending pents, we're just telling the truth. That's the right one.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
And here's the thing. You have a lot of people
who are Trump supporters that if you told the truth
about January sixth, it doesn't matter how factual, how easily
it is that they could do the research through a
simple Google search. They're not going to do that. They're
going to say, well, put Resident Trump said X, Y
and Z, so therefore that's the truth. That's the facts,
you know, and they're not going to research anything. So

(11:25):
you're you're a terrible liar for the defending truth and
what's reality?

Speaker 4 (11:30):
You know?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
With with some of these people.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
I often tell it and say it on this show too.
You know, always question authority, no matter who it is.
If have Donald Trump and you love Donald Trump to death,
doesn't matter. Questioned him. That's part of critical thinking. Question
what he's doing, question his motivation, have some critical thinking
about it. You'll probably come to some conclusions that, ah,
he's doing okay. But still at the same time, you

(11:53):
never know what people's agenda are. They're hidding agendas and stuff.
You just never know. Even if it is Donald Trump,
you still got a question right.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Right, well, as we should.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
I took it from the left end right because I
stuck to the truth. The left did like the truth,
the right didn't like the truth. So I don't know
what to tell people. But that's just the reality that
they get here of themselves. One of my viewers is
in a chat and saying that that they're at the
higher elevation than me up there in Alberta in Canada. Well,
unless you are at five thousand, three hundred and twenty
three feet, you are not at a higher elevation than me.

(12:24):
You misunderstood or didn't hear. I'm not in Boise. I
was in Boise, I am now in Hayley, idahosand three
hundred and twenty two feet above sea level. So you
might be higher than me, but you'd have to be
in the Rockies up in the mountains for that.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, that's pretty it's pretty good high. That's
pretty high right there, and considering east of the Mississippi
at the highest elevations like six one hundred odd feet,
which is, you know, really not that high compared to
the Rockies. But that's that's that's all we got here
east of the Mississippi.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
You hear him pull out a bomb, but you hear
the bubbling sounds of a bomb as he goes No, no, dude,
you don't understand.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
I'm own He's not higher than the Okay is the
registration please, it's on the on the on the back right,
license on the back of the car Ben.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
They were parked in the media and I love that Jones.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
That was great. Up and Smoke, What a great movie. Yikes,
never never once done alyssa drug. But I still laughed
at that thing.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Right well, absolutely so. We haven't been on the air
obviously since last last week. Uh, you know Charlie Kirk's
funeral memorial service, et cetera, well attended by a lot
of people. Uh did you get a chance to say
glimpse that, Colonel or John?

Speaker 4 (13:33):
I I did not watch it all. I did listen
for a bit. I was in the car. I was
turned off by it. People are praising it, but it
seems to me, not not just that specifically, but there
was a lot of good stuff seut there. But it
sure seems to me if you look at social media
content creators in particular, a lot of people are grotesquely
milking Charlie Kirk's assassination for their own profit, benefit, notoriety, fame,

(13:58):
likes and so on. And I just find stomach turning.
And some of viewers get pissed off because they don't listen.
I didn't say anything bad about Charlie Kirk, right now,
good about Charlie Kirk. I said, I think it's it's
it's this cult of worship which isn't even genuine for
many of these people. It's just your personal the grand right,
and that's what I find off putting. But yeah, but
there was some you know's, I guess his widow said

(14:20):
some pretty amazing things. President Trump had some nice thing
to say. Tucker Carlson took a lot of flak, but
I heard part of Tucker Carlston. It seemed fine to me.
Susie Wilds, I caught uh Miller's Miller's anyway, that's that's
that one. They'd do anything for me. But yeah, I didn't.
I didn't watch any of that stuff. I mean, I
don't need to. It's it's not for me. I know
some people really want to. But it was pretty amazing.

(14:42):
Was at Arizona State University at Tempe. They had seventy
thousand in the stadium. Then they had an overflow area
another thirty thousand or forty thousand people.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
There's pretty crazy, right, Yeah, Yeah, and I've been witnessing
that too. You know a lot of people that are
just trying to you know, self aggrandizement, you know, make
a name for themselves. You know, we have some local
politic or politicians here in Northeast Tennessee, my home county,
that are trying to do the same thing. It's like,
all of a sudden, now the blue they jumped on
the Charlie Kirk bandwagon. You know, these are people that

(15:10):
don't know much about the law, legislation, or the position
that they hold for the most part, but now all
of a sudden, they see an opportunity to snow people the
fact that they haven't been doing their job since they've
been elected. Now they want to get into their stuff
in the newspaper to make it seem as if they're
doing something for the people, which in reality is are
just su promoting.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Could you imagine how much more reach you would have
had if he'd have had this fan base behind him.
Then now they're there, Now they're they're trying to capitalize
off this circumstance. That's pretty right, that's pretty crappy. And
flip that coin over. Because I don't get on Facebook
or social media much anymore. I keep trying to flip
through and I open it up, and what I keep
seeing is these morbid conspiracy theories. Oh day, shot from

(15:49):
behind or the security detail was involved. I am so
sick and tired of stupidity. I just don't even want
to open up social media anymore.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Right, Yeah, the secret arms signals, the hands signals and
all this stuff, and I'm like, no, No.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
The thing about this, guys, is that is that. So
I had somebody challenge me on my program and they said,
but you're talking about Charlie Kirk. I said, no, I'm
reporting newsworthy items about the person me detained, about the trial,
about the events unfolding. I'm not going on and spending
I'm not talking about my faith and my love of Charlie.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
You're talking about the facts of a murder of assassination.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
I'm talking about a newsworthy event, and I'm not spending
a lot of time dwelling on it because I'm reporting
the news analyzing it. But also I'm consistent. I'm clear
about this. I didn't like Charlie Kirk personally because of
this focus with Turning Point. They just ignored people over
the age of thirty, and that found that quite off putting.
And they when I contacted them years ago when it
started and I was trying to help, they weren't interested

(16:46):
basically told me because I was too old. Basically my
answer to that as well, you should watch Logan's run. Yeah,
then you're all going to be old one day or
you're gonna be dead. Take a choice. But anyway, so no,
but I've been consistent. So I was going to try
to call me out, and so I did a tribute
song with Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, we heard that last week.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Good Charlie, Charlie stands on And that was not out
of a cult of love for Charlie. It was because
it's such a seminal moment. You know. This organization co
found was called Turning Point USA twenty twenty five because
of three events. The Butler assassination attempt, in which they
actually shot Trump in the head started. Never mind the

(17:25):
Florida the amateur operation there, the guys on troll now,
but the Butler assassination temp at twenty twenty four. Trump
sworn in his present in twenty twenty five, and now
Charlie Kirk's assassination. This is America's turning point. We are
restoring this nation and we shall do it. Did you
guys catch Trump at the UN It was on fire.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, this is what I was wanting to want you
to get into here in a second break it down.
But last point on Charlie Kirk, if you don't mind
you know all the people that are just now waking
up to to you know, the politics and what's going
on in society, on campus, whatever, you know. Welcome, Welcome
to the club. I'm glad you're awake. But don't don't
allow yourself to be co opted by those that are

(18:08):
just trying to snow you, snow you and make a
name for themselves politically. U be aware that there are
those people that are out there, so you know, just
just bear that in mind as we move forward. But
go ahead, colonel, breakdown. Break down their President's Trump speech
at the UN.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Well hit some high points which I think many of
reviewers probably watched. I watched it live. I mean I
didn't know he was going to be speaking that hour,
but I was prepping for my show Trump's Live. Okay, Well,
I went there. It's incredible.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
So basically he said, you're all the suckers here, Your
punchers are going to hell. He kept going on China,
and they kept taking the camera, patted the Chinese diplomats.
It's China, China, China doing this.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
China is the biggest polluter, he told the truth China
produces more pollution than the rest of the developed world combined.
True times world's largest polluter chin China's building three undred
fifty coal five power plants every These are all facts
that no one wants to listen to. And now the president,
I states, he said, not just me on my program,
so I'm pretty excited about it. But the grief edergy
is the biggest scam ever. All was so good. It

(19:08):
was when it was so funny to see if national
leader says and then with this is the funny stuff.
He beat up on Brazil. He said, Brazil all want
a mess Brazil. Yeah, where we're give the sanctions, we're
going after them. But the funny thing I met the
president because the escalator didn't work. It, yeah about we
talked for about forty five seconds, and I think we
had something going there. He didn't say it, but he basically,

(19:28):
I think we got a bromance going. He said, so
maybe we'll work something out in Brazil, but you know,
and then it was one of the funny moments. People
actually laughed. He said, you know, what's the purpose of
you and I come here, and all I get to
broken escalator and a broken telepropter. When Trump was done,
the lady that runs the hall, she said, she announced,
ladies and gentlemen, delegates, I want to assure you the

(19:49):
telepropter is functioning properly. Right after Trump said it wasn't working.
But I think he made a previous time. But he asked,
what's the purpose? He went now, Ian bellished to have
been on some things like he's like, I ended seven wars,
didn't really end seven wars, but but he's had more
success than anyone else ever has at any conflicts. And
it was just it was it was absolutely brilliant. It

(20:09):
was he's gone. But he spent a lot of time
hammering sovereignty and criminal alien invasion. And he talked about
the consequences of women and children being sexually assaulted and
murdered coming through coyotes, coming up in these caravans, and
the same thing you're both sinking with these these illegal migrants.
There's a consequence of this. And he talked and and
what I love about this, he says, your countries are

(20:31):
going to hell, your your heritage is being destroyed, and
you don't seem to care about it? Why don't you care?
It was incredible, And so I love how the New
York Slimes and the Washington Compost took the time to
fact checked Trump on his UN speech, but they never
a fact checked Jo Biden on anything. Nothing Joe Biden
said was ever true, not a single thing ever st
So you could, I guess that's why the did fact checking,

(20:52):
because they just knew he was lying. But of course,
you know, And so I saw fact checking Jay about
Trump and Kennedy talking about kyl now a set of
benefit and then they fact check him, and then they
admit that Trump is partially correct, but they land based
him because he's wrong. He's not wrong. There's a difference opinion.
There is evidence support what he said. I don't necessarily

(21:14):
agree with what he said, but that relates in Germaine.
Don't don't fact check him and call him a liar.
And the same thing in the UN. You know, the
New York Slimes came up an article and he was
saying that he all that stuff is unproven, untrill. Now
it's not many of the things that Trump said. I
can give you the evidence, show you the proof of
for instance, China being the world's biggest polluter. They overtook
the US well over a decade ago, and they're just
soaring past this because they building coal fire power plants

(21:34):
and they're destroying their environment. So anyway, it's uh. Trump
was Trump was awesome. There were a few spots that
lagged a little bit. You know, He's like, I don't
want to be braggadocious, but I'm gonna be braggadocies you
know with that. Hear me, that's classic Trump. I thought
it was an awesome speech and I really loved out.
He actually called for the world to unite and said

(21:56):
countries want to work with us to go forward for peace,
will do it. He also said we can never allow
a run to have a nuclear weapon. That was brilliant.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
He said it.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
He said it. You know, presidents don't say that sort
of thing. It needs to be said Trump. Trump is
the devil we know, and I think a lot of
us love him.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
No, absolutely, And of course the Dems are going to,
you know, battle him all all the way to the end. Now,
do you think there's going to be a government shut down?
And if so, how much blame is going to come
to it? Towards the Republicans and Trump, even though he's
extended every allege branch to the Democrats and said, hey,
you know, I meet I'll meet you more than halfway
on all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
You know, I'll confess I'm a little confused. What was
the big beautiful bill? I thought that was the budget
for twenty twenty five?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I did too, I did too.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Apparently wasn't. Yeah, so why did have you passed by
July fourth? I mean, which if it wasn't a budget?

Speaker 3 (22:43):
So he wanted to sign it for independence stay, that's
what that was about. He thought it was kind of symbolic.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Well, I mean I thought we were getting a budget,
so I mean know it's we did.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
We did have some budgetary spendings, yeah, right, for space
and a few other nonsensical there's things in that we
don't even know of. I think there's some stuff in
there for medical care to you or.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Well I just read the damn thing. These things are
usually twelve. Yeah, I know it's uh no, but I
mean I think we'll get a continued resolution. Schumer will cave.
Democrats are on their last legs and they can try
to play brinkmanship, but they're just gonna stupid and we'll
see how it goes. But but the Republicans, that better
not cave and give them one point one tree and
a new spending that's just gonna wipe out everything it

(23:28):
came in the big beautiful bill and put we're actually
on the front foot, and we actually had a more
revenue came into the federal government then went out for
the first time in like three years, two months in
a row because the tariffs. So we're taking more money
and we're spending at the moment, which is pretty incredible,
and that's how things should be to start paying down
their debt.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
The problem. The problem is they don't balance a budget
and they just keep doing continuing resolutions and until they
get themselves into check, they're gonna start spending that money too.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Well, that's the point. That's what the Democrats I do
the one to spend the money that's come in with
money it's not there. So the Republicans have to hold
the line and they just cannot. I mean, if we
don't get to continue resolution, then the government shuts down.
We can blame the Democrats, just like they blame the
Republicans when they shut it down before. But the Press
of course will blame Trump. But you know what, I
think a lot of people are just too wise to
that they know better that Trump is not the problem.

(24:20):
That Trump is not the problem. Washington is the problem.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yep. Oh absolutely. Here here's one now the Pentagon. Pentagon
seeks Trump approval for first US military execution in sixty years,
following for heard mass shooting. And it says from the
dollsign who killed thirty two thousand and nine. Uh, it
looks like they're going to seek the death pen and
according to Fox News, and I'd say, hey, bring it on, welcome.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Is there any chance we can have a torture instead.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Right, yeah, slowly spit roaster or something.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Right, something like that. Do you know have his you know,
drawn and quartered, you know, his entrails removed? Allah? William Wells,
I know that that guy definitely deserves the death penalty.
So it's time, right, Oh?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Absolutely? I mean you got to think about it. If
this guy was a threat from from the inside for
crying out loud, I mean you should have been dead
a long time ago.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Well, it's all part of our you know, diversity makes
us stronger, bsure, because diversity isn't the isn't different faiths.
It isn't different skin colors, it isn't different ethnicities. That's
not diversity, that's fake diversity. Diversity is diversity of experience,
diversity of character, so that you bring something to the table.
Just because you're brown or black or white doesn't mean

(25:29):
you make things stronger better. In fact, it usually makes
things more divisive because people can't get along because they're clannished.
Human beings, by nature are clanished. That's how we survived
on this Serngdetti. You know, when the lions and the
cheetes were coming, we banded together. And when another group
came to try to steal our women, beat them over
the head. You know, we beat those guys over the head.
And people tend to form small, nuclear groups smaller you know.

(25:52):
Notice we have lots of identities. I mean, first off,
I'm a human being. Then I'm an American. Then I'm
from this state, then I'm this, I'm this, and you know,
some people put up here and put their Islam faith
up here, but we have so many different identities and
we're like Russian nesting dolls and people don't even realize that.
They just think, well, I'm this, No, you're a lot
more than that. And the way you live your life,

(26:12):
you associate, you go to church with certain people. Well
that's what you are. A Methodist, or you're a Presbyterian,
or your Catholic or your Jewish or whatever. That's part
of what you are. And that's part of one of
your identities. And another identity is maybe you're a volunteer
that works with you know, does all these other things.
Then maybe you're a Republican, you're a Democrat. Lots of identities,
like I say, like Russian nesting dolls, and I think
people don't realize that. And we tend to continually break

(26:35):
ourselves off into smaller groups, you know, right, and we
support this, we support that, and sometimes they're not mutually agreeable.
So U it's just it's anyway, it's it's life, and
they left can't have the life.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Part of being a melting pot, right. I mean we
look at Nashville over here, we used to have a
French Hill and Crown Hill and yeah, different people sell.
Obviously French chill were with French people settled. Now it's
mostly Spanish, but they still subtle and clips.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, yeah, people like the familiar and like minded, you know,
it's easy. It's simple. You don't have the learning curve's
not there. Uh, you know, you pretty much know what
to expect with with people that are similar to you.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
I guess, oh, but people like that familiar.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
But if you want to have a fraternity and it's
black only, you're okay. But if you want to have
a whites only fraternity within your faces, if you want
to have it, if you want to have you want
to have a you know, a neighborhood, it's only certain
people can live there, It's okay. But if you have
a neighbor we're only certain people who live it's not okay.
The double standards ridiculous. You know. Again, people gravitate to
the to the familiar, to the same, And as I said,

(27:40):
that's how we survived, you know, as a species. Otherwise
because you know, it's like, you know the story you
talk about all the time, guys, so they as sociologists,
have done this. You have four young black men standing
in the street corner with you know the kind of
the guys hang with their pants hanging halfway down their
butt crack, and they're standing there in a semicircle with
stuff in their hands, doing something and you have these

(28:01):
school kids walk up and they stop, and they see
them across the streets, so they go this way and
that way, and they go around them out of their
way to avoid encountering them. And of course the immediate
response from the typical crowd is racist. But when a
group of black kids, school kids, sees the same thing
and does the exact same thing, right, that's just good judgment.

(28:22):
It's human nature to avoid danger. Otherwise, look at the
kitty cat here took your head.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Off, right, Yeah, absolutely, it's inherent.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
You know, it's it's the fight or fight uh mechanism.
It's it's it's and those who don't have good judgment
are consigned, you know, to wind up. They're gone, you know.
I mean that's that's that's that's the what is it?
The Darwin The Darwins there, well.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
The idiots out well and near where you're at right now,
you know, Yellowstone right with with you know the buffalo
people try to take picture with with a bison and
it kills you by kicking your headbutting you, you know,
not even trying to kill you. You know, it weighs thousands
of pounds. They could kill you in a second.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Any of the videos I've seen people got it with
the horns and they didn't go up over the bike
and there were way in the air.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 7 (29:12):
There.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
They look cute and everything. Even bears look cute, but
even like a little a little smaller black bear can
can cut your head off. I mean they just raise
your sharp claws that you know are many times powerful
than a human being. They can just slice you like
that and you're done.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
And we see we've seen a lion tamer or a
tiger tamer or that many years ago was sage. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
And then we saw we saw Steve Irwin die from
a sting ray stabbing him right in the heart. You know, it's, uh,
you know, the hubris of human beings. And I think
part of it's because so many people in an urban
era are detached from nature. They don't understand the harm.
It's like the same short of people. Oh I'll just
drive through that flooded street. Okay, well look at that
floating down the river. They're dead. You gotta have better

(29:57):
judgment than that, you know, you got to understand, you
gotta understand. Several times I've run into danger for wildlife
in Tanzania. I drove in a park and I was
in the vehicle and I came upon an elephant and
she turned her head and I saw her calf, and
I just stopped. You mess with an elephant when they've
got a calf. And so I found a way to

(30:19):
extricate myself. But she her ears came out like this,
you know, and she started waving. I'm like, okay, time
to get out here. Quietly backed out, said you can
approach on her. And Yellowstone the same sort of thing.
Two instance. In Yellowstone, drive along the road where the
buffalo of the bison come up and they're crossing the road,
and you just slow down. You don't antagonize it. You
don't put your windows down. It's like, don't feed the monkeys,

(30:41):
don't feed the baboons and that sort of thing. And
then you just move on. But they get close and
they're huge. Man, they'll they'll they'll flip over a small
car easily. Yeah, just some serious damage your car. And
then I was out walking in Yellowstone and I came
around this little spot and there was a moose and
she turned her head and looked at me, and she
had a calf, and I froze. She's like, yep, I'm like,

(31:06):
this isn't rocking Bullwinkle. I'm gonna chill. I'm gonna chill.
And then she went back to eating and watched their
calf and I extricated myself.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
There's stress laying on the horn. Move you move, worst
thing you could do right for the ball? Yeah, yeah,
the worst thing you do is they're laying on the horn.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah. So you know, people they just they take this
stuff too lightly, and there's a penalty for it. You know,
it's a penalty for it. No, absolutely, ice and aren't
that oppressive? Yeah, you've never then obviously have a dealt
with them. They're pretty impressive creatures. I'm so glad that
they didn't go extinct.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Ye oh, absolutely. More more people were killed by the
grass eaters than there are the meat eaters there every year.
You know, they get too close.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
You know, do you the most dangerous animal in Africas
taking guess it's not a line hippo? Yeah, oh you
knew that.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
I love I love hippos. Man, they're so cute, like
the small ones. But you know, you definitely you don't
want to go do the man because they could just
crush it Eagier.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah, you don't have to go to just be in
the water. They can underneath you. You're done.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yeah, yeah, do you know that? I think the best
name for them, because of course that comes from mind
the Germans what they call you know what the Germans
call a hippo, that a flus fat, which literally means
a river horse.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, there you go. But it's funny is they show
up to the watering holes that the li or the
lions they don't mess with them, and the crocodiles are like,
we can't, we can't do anything with these things. Let's
just leave them alone, swim away.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
I'm gonna say it's great when you say a hippop
just walking through the crocodiles, like kicking them and stuff. Yeah,
around them, They're like, don't mess with that one.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
I mean, if you've come across the hippopotamus and in Africa,
I'll be careful in in southern Africa, particularly of Cape Buffalo.
That's also very dangerous. That's the two that kill the
most people ever. Your hippopotamid and then Kpe Buffalo. And
then the third most dangerous creature in Africa is the A.
N C. National Congress.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Yeah, you got to watch out for those ANC cadres.
It's dangerous.

Speaker 8 (33:06):
Man.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
So Hippopotami, cape buffalo and ANC politicians. Just stay away
from all of them. They're all bad news. You know.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
It's funny in the side. There is still a lot
of genocide and stuff in Africa is and there there's
still a lot of they get kind of tribal and
they'll they'll oppose one another and killed each other off.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Well, I mean, we haven't had a genocide as such,
and sometime although we had something that kind of approached
genocide and to gray recently went to gray and Ethiopia
went to war, even the greatest part of Ethiopia, but
the people that used around the country for decades were
to grains. They had total control. Then they lost control
and then a war started and the Ethiopian army executed
thousands of you know, two gray conscripts and villagers. And

(33:47):
what arguable is to a campaign of genocide. You could
also argue that darfour we've had one too, and one's
god going right now. But the last big one that
we can talk about that we genuinlyus genocide was in Rwanda,
nineteen ninety four, and that wasn't the first time it happened.
Viruni had happened in twice in the twentieth century, and
it also twice in the twentieth century.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
But you still got the micro right, you still got
people that they still do machete murders and stuff like that.
Over there. They see people that they don't like, and literally.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
That's just horrific violence, not necessarily orchestrated campaign to wipe
out of people. But we have we have genocides going
on in China with the Wigars and Muslims who are
being organ harvested from live you know, prisoners who've committed
no crimes. We also get the Fulong Gong. They're using
them to ex you know, they're trying to wipe them out.
And then in Meyonmar we've got the Rohinga Muslims who

(34:35):
are actively being hunted down and murdered by the regime there.
So the world looks the other way and naval gaze
is while these things happen, So there is some chenocide
taking place, efforts at genocide.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I think that was the migrants going into the European countries,
wasn't it out of Africa. They were trying to escape
for religious persecution.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Mostly African migrants. The colonel alienators are simply trying to
find money and work. It's not about there. There are
some legitimates, but most Africans that are flaeing violence are
refugees and they live in a third the third country
or second country. So, for instance, the world's largest refuge
camp is located in Kenyon. I want to guess how
many people live in it. To take a guess how
many thousands of people live in it's been around for

(35:17):
thirty years.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
By the way, for fifty thousand, six.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Hundred and fifty thousand refugees live in one camp and
they've been living there for thirty years. Many of them
were born there. Wow, that's just one camp and they're
samalways who afraid to go back to Somalia. And then
we've got refuges living in Uganda from South sun En,
and we've got refugees from Darford living in Chad, and
the list goes on and on. There are a lot.
There are twenty five million registered refues with the United

(35:43):
Nations currently around the world. That's refugees. There are tens
of millions of more internally displaced persons. Of course, distinctionly
that a refugee crosses the border and leaves the country
where they were being targeted, whereas an internally displaced person
flees because of conflict, still lives, still is in the
country that they're from. And so you've just got a mess.
I mean, if you look at the for instance, mozambiqu
there at least one point to me and internally displaced

(36:04):
person some stay up to three million because the conflict
in Cabo Dugana province in the northeastern part of the country.
You know, stuff happens in most of the world is
ignorant or completely norse it And what I have to
say is that, you know, getting on a plane this
morning in Harrisburg, perfectly safe and fine. GSA doing their
job checking people. Things went smoothly. Airport will function well,

(36:25):
Aircraft control got inn a functionally. Plane flew from there
to Chicago. Same thing. I run into the former Vice president.
You know, he's just regular Joe there. I give it
a plane. I fly over the Rocky Mountains to Boise, Idaho,
and I get in the car. They hand me the
keys to a vehicle. It works perfectly fine. I drive
down the road. There's a rest stop. I stopped there
and get something to eat, and on my way and safe,

(36:49):
and you know, and the roads are being fixed. And
what a blessing to be an American. The grass is green.
I got a new song for you guys too. I
did a song called the Grasses Green in America. So
maybe I'll send that to you guys play. I was
sent to Johnson I email he might play it tonight.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Get it on the air, why not, you know, let's
see it. Maybe every week we'll have a show from
Colonel Chris White, you know, a showcase or something. I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
This week's single is gosh I miss Casey, Casey. This
week's long distance dedication is from a lovely lady in Tennessee.
She's sending out to her boe whose name is Todd. Todd.
This one's for.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
You, yeah right, count him down, all right, all right.
So apparently former FBI director James Comy is going to
be indicted by the FBI apparently or Justice Department.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Oh happy days.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
And there's another another report on Newsmax saying that he's
going to be indicted in Virginia sometime this week. The
full extent of the charges courting Newsmas being prepared against
Comy is unclear, but the sources believe that at least
one element of the indictment, if it goes forward, will
accuse him of lying to congresstating the testimony of September thirty,
twenty twenty about whether he authorized a leak of information.

(38:01):
Of course, this is all speculation right now, but I
would love to see if this actually comes to fruition.
You know, there's hope that well, I.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Hope one of the charges is fraud against the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Act. He violated the law by knowingly is
requesting a FIZA approval to spy on carter Page. He
knew the carter Page was a spy for the CIA.
Carter Page was a source of information for the CI,
He was an informant, He was on the government books
as a registered source. And the fact that James Comy

(38:33):
covered that up and Peter Struck and Lisa Page, that
is a federal crime. And I don't I don't want
the rest of it. That alone ought to give him
ten years in the independ into Pokey. So yeah, I'm look,
I mean, I got a coad hanger in my mouth.
I'm so excited. And then someone said that I haven't
seen yet. They claim that Letitia James is also going
to be indicted.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
All good, Yeah, where did you hear that at?

Speaker 4 (38:54):
One of my viewers saw it somewhere, but I haven't
been able to confirm it. But if you get Latitia James,
then we need to go after that Alard there in
Alvin Bragg in New York. Yeah, after that, then go
down there after little Fanny what's her name?

Speaker 1 (39:07):
There?

Speaker 4 (39:07):
A little scumbay. There's already is a lot of trouble
in Georgia. Yeah, yeah, I think so is there anything
we get Stacy Abrams on? Can we get her for,
you know, denying elections? She still thinks she's the governor.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
She's still governor? Yeah right, yeah, that's true. Yeah, the
original after all these set an example, I think, why not?

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Right? The original election deniers are of course Hillary Rodin
Clinton and the Stacy Abrams but they claimed Trump denies elections. Yeah, anyway,
those two lost elections and they still can't get over it.
But you know, Chris, I think the best line with
Hillary was always wipe, wipe you meet like with a cloth, right, you.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Know exactly what she was talking about yeah, and and
and did it with content to the American people. She
said that for sure.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
Yeah, she has contempt for each and every one of
us because she thinks she's untouchable. And apparently she is
because they're too cowardly to prosecutor. Well it is now
the statue limitations has worn off for that stuff, right.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
And to think about the Clinton Foundation, how much money
that they laundered and got away with, you know, multi millions, millions.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
People in Haiti, just people in Haiti hate them because
they swindled the Haitians and took all that money was
supposed to go to Haitian relief. Yeah, they're just I mean,
you know, look, I mean I would ask close confidence
of theirs about the true face of the Clinton's life.
Maybe we should call Vince Foster. Oh wait, we can't.
We can't call Vince.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, and ask him how he committed suicide and which
weird way, you know? And yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
So, which one was that? I mean, what number on
me out of all fifty sixty people, I'm.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
I'm still I'm still puzzled to how they got away
with Whitewater, clear and obvious scandal. I mean, it was
the scandal. It was proven to be a corruption of
fraud when he was still governor, and he's this guy
went on to the White House. I don't understand that anyway.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
And all those documents were mysteriously found in the West
Wing the White House Council's office, mysteriously all those years
later after he killed himself.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Just oh there they are, okay, sure, yeah, anyway, Clinton's man,
what's the name, Peter Schweizer has done some great work
of investigating and that alone is enough information. You take
the evidence right out of his book to prosecute it.
But never gonna happen. Never gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Those people will never see the inside of a dude
jail cell uh and comy.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yeah, I'm not gonna hold my breath. But if something
does happen in a probably a low level charge, a
slap on the wrist and say see we did go
after somebody.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Yeah you know, so one of my viewers, sorry to
come back to the hippopotami. I forgot about it in
offer cons it's a sea cow makes sense.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Oh yeah, that makes more sense.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Yeah, versus horse because it looks a lot like a cow,
you know.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Right, yeah, big, much larger than the cow. But yeah, still,
I mean that those little baby the babies are so
cute though, aren't they. It's like, man, look at that thing.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Yeah, are you gonna tell me baby pythons are cute too?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
No, of course not. No, those things can crush you.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
No.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Baby baby elephants are though.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Of course. Baby rhinos yeah, I mean just awesome, awesome,
you know. But even even the even the cuddling lines
and tigers, I mean, they're so cute for crying out loud.
I wouldn't want hug one in the wild, but you know,
a little little tiny one at a zoo absolutely, come.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
On now, they are they are, But even the grown
ones look kind of cute. Everybody wants the pet one
and come out missing an arm.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Just just playing around. A damn lion or a tiger
can just you know, just goof and just take your
head off, just just playing.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
You see videos sometimes on the internet where guys are
doing that. They're they're playing a chance with them else,
sticking the hand of the gate sort of thing. Don't
forget that everyone's while that one guy loses and he's
all of suddenly draining blood out of his hand or
something that's yeah, you got what you deserve, get you now?

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Yeah, well look, uh, I'm just I'm over the moon.
And I hope that actually results in prosecution and conviction
and shift needs to be hauled into yep. And there's
nothing we can get Alexander Cortes on. But I think
we can get ilion Omar on immigration front.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Well, amc she's lying about everybody on a date, or
maybe we could get her on that. That's possible.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
She prosecuted for lying, you know, yeah you not.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
With that crazy abu. It shoots off, you know.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
I mean, look, you can't prosecute her for being delusional.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Oh no, right, And it's funny as the videos that
are out there on her that she put out thinking
like oh look at this, what is this? Didn't understand
what a trash disposal was, you know, garbage disposal in
our house. I've never had one of these in my house.
But now you live in an apartment. They called you
to won four or five grand a month. But when
I can't afford to live in DC, yeah I don't,
I don't think. So you live in a four to

(43:47):
five thousand dollars a month apartment? Yeah you can afford
quite a few things there.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
I'm sorry, Well, you should tell her she should get
on the Interstate Commerce Committee so that she can get
dirty money from Visa like Nancy Pelosi, and then she
can have you know, ten thousand dollars frigerators to give
her two hundred dollars cups of ice cream.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Right, yeah, I mean you see the ice cream and
Nancy Pelosi's freezer, for crying out loud, and it's what
was it, like thirty dollars a tub or something, you know,
ridiculous And this was their cheap ice cream though, right.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
What's what's really particularly bad about this is that she
did in social media, and it's these people are so
disconnected from reality that they think that the average person
can even relate to that. I mean, here, I am
using my points in my miles to cut the cost
of this trip. It's so expensive, and I'm blanching in
hotel rooms to two hundred dollars a night and trying
to find dives for you know, less than a hundred

(44:37):
because it's just so expensive. And and here's Nancy Pelosi
bragging about, you know, thirty dollars tub of ice cream
from her ten thousand dollars, you know, special refrigerator in
her multi million dollar mansion, which is through ill gotten
gains from Visa and no investigation into that. So now
just as connected from realities.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
People know these and they're expected to they expect us
to call them the honorable. You know, there's nothing honorable
about most of these people in Congress, and there hasn't
been for thirty some odd years or more, at least
in my lifetime. For the most part, very few windows
of good people here and there very rarely anymore.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
I would argue that it's never been the case. I mean,
there's always been a very small number of genuine patriots
and appropriate people. Because of the nature of direct voting,
and we get to vote for these people, which I'm
in favor of. But because the nature direct voting, we
get an awful lot of losers, ambulance chasing, shyster lawyers,
used car salesmen, and people who are slightly better looking

(45:32):
than an opponent, and they get elected and they're not
very bright. I mean, that's been the case throughout American history.
I mean, but there have been some real patriots. Remember
of the course of the Senate, we didn't vote for
senators until the twentieth century, senators were selected by the
state legislators. If that were the case today, Republicans would
it would have a filibuster proof senate because they had

(45:52):
like thirty two states has sixty four senators. Man, right,
don't not have to worry about anything. It'd be good
to go. But that's not how we do it. And
that's the progress I save. Its back to the early
part of the twentieth century amend of the Constitution, so
that we had direct voting for the senators And what
do we get popularity contest now instead of picking the
best person anyway, there's there's advantages of each side, but
I think I like the way a conscious way is written.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeap, John, John, what are your thoughts on directly electing
senators or should we go back to the old way?
A lot of the state legislatures to decide.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Going back is kind of a trick, isn't it. U
We're kind of stuck on this. But I like the
sounds of having sixty four senators all Republican. What happens
when it turned? When the when the when the when
the tide turns?

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Though, right, that's true.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
You make sure you make sure you don't govern poorly
so that people will turn the tide.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah, right, And the people that you do put in there,
make sure that they're not, you know, just benefit themselves
and they're in their cronies. That's for sure.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Yeah, I'm a big I'm a big fan of direct elections.
My problem with it is there's too many people that
don't educate themselves voting. We got people are voting on emotions,
and that's what the problem really lies. It's not that
they shouldn't be voting, but at least don't vote your emotions.
And this whole thing about no matter who always vote blue.
Come on, man, you know we can stick that attitude.

(47:11):
Vote right, that's all you gotta do. Vote right, you know.
If you're just running a ticket right up and down
the ticket one side for just Democrats because they're blue,
that's how you're throwing this country away.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Yep, yep, that's for sure. That's for sure. So the
suspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination now has an attorney.
According to Newsmax, the Utah County Commission has approved in
agreement named me Catherine n. Nessor as lead defense counsel
for Tyler Robinson, the man charged with capital murder and
the killing of conservative leader Charlie Kirk. The Desert News

(47:44):
reported Nesser is a season in Utah trial lawyer with
decades of experience handling complex criminal and capital cases. Robinson
appeared by video from Utah County Jail during your fourth
District court hearing in provo last Tuesday, where he is
being held without bell. He remained expression as Judge Tony
Graff read the charges. Yeah, he is absolutely, you know,

(48:06):
has every right to have an attorney. And I'm hoping
people that are that are out there aren't going to
attack the attorney who's been assigned to represent the individual
because as an American, he as a as a person
charged with a crime, he has every right to have
a council. I mean, he's not getting off of these charges,
that's for sure, but he has every right to have
an attorney for sure.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
And I ensure that we don't attack the attorney. I
know people that are already starting to do that on social.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Media, which is sad. I think it's okay. The only
person in America is not entitled to defense is Donald Trump? Remember?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Oh right, yeah, yeah, of course, yeah, he can't have
an attorney on all the made up charges that we're
going to go after him on too.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
And they tried to destroy it at law firms and
law firms back then protecting the president because the sum
banks and the threats. Yeah, I think people forgotten about that.
They've really forgotten about that. Hey, you know, did you
did you see in advance of the Nine Nations summit
before Trump got up and spoke that the Secret Service
of apparently disbanded a cyber attack, a telecommunications attack with

(49:05):
all these servers and all these one hundred thousand SIM
cards and they were going to do denial of service
and shut down communications and and and just get to
target the United Nations. And that's something that's pretty wild.
And then I saw that somebody in DC, this idiot
pointed a laser at the President's helicopter on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
He's been arrested. These idiots don't realize is that those
helicopters know where that's coming from. And they went right
to that person's house. I mean, we we're on with
within minutes basically.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
Oh no, that was there was a cop there, the
cops on Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that you're
thinking of difference that you did it right in front
the police. I mean, and he took his shirt off
and this is the guy, he's crazy or something like that.
Then then they are asked. He goes, oh, I should
apologize to President but Trump, I mean, I said, he
deserves an apology and this guy's crazy. Man, Yeah, it's DC.

(49:58):
What would you.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Expect give back to those servers?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Man?

Speaker 3 (50:00):
U realize that was a three hundred server form. The
three hundred servers, you know that was That was a
pretty big operation. We're not talking about like uh Tony
over here in the back garage or whatever. You know,
the mechanics they are putting it together. Three hundred servers.
This is kind of a major operation going right. This
wasn't some fine little rinky dink outfit going on. This
been actually a country, a nation that was doing this, right.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, I wonder who's behind it. I mean, we we
probably know at this point who's behind it. Is it
is it China?

Speaker 4 (50:34):
It might be Russia, but China definitely. No. But it
reminds me of Leth the weapon man Lea. Now there's
gold to the Federal Reserve's That was a great that
went New York. That was a great one.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Do you think servers right, not leth the weapon die Hard?

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Oh yeah, I'm sorry, I die.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Both great franchises.

Speaker 7 (50:54):
By the way, I meant you're correct, it was it
was die Hard, both great franchises. Yeah, they had they
had the airport where the second wasn't so great, but
then the New York was great.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
What were you saying that, John? Oh?

Speaker 3 (51:06):
I was just kind of curious if you guys think
maybe there's a little bit more to these servers of
what they implied. I mean, they you know, well, they
could have blocked out nine eleven calls, and they could
have done this and that. But there's a thing called
a stinger. And the thing about it is that close
to the United Nations with that many dignitaries you've done
about world leaders here that are going to be on
the cell phones, but the right hand man in their
own country having conversations, And I'm wondering, with a stinger

(51:27):
and that many services, how many phone calls can you
can you intercept and record conversations and have the dirt.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Well, apparently they were also trying to target the emergency services.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
You know, the right number one system and all that merchan.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
System and the only reason to target that is if
you're going to cause an incident. Yeah right, Yeah, there's
probably a lot more to this than we know. I mean,
you know, having worked count intelligence, I'm surprised that we
know this much.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
So be an encounter being an encounter intelligence? Do you
think just speculatively speaking here, I'm not trying to tell
a story to this, bear with me on that. Oh,
but do you think it's possible it could be a
cover story for something more nefarious. They just don't want
people to think, oh my god, every one of our
ambassadors or every one of our leaders and the globe
have been compromised.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Well, that's that's possible. But what do you accompromise Like
their phones happen?

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Yeah, yeah, like they were intercepting cell phone calls and
stuff and getting private information.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
It's a very real possibility. But of course, you know,
we're talking about all the people working at the Nations
having different cell phone providers, Summer, Verizon Mobile, there's there's
the next next tell is gone that I run?

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Well, how does a stinger work? I mean it intercepts
the cell phone signal, right, and then it relates it
back to a tower. Do you have to does it
have to be different towers or is it going to
be one tower with a multitude of providers.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
I mean, it's the capability. I don't think I want
to discuss on air.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Right, Yeah, good, good call. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Oh come on, man, everybody. If I know they exist,
a lot of people know they exist.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
I can neither firm nor deny what you're talking about, sir.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Yeah, here's the thing I can tell you. With non
disclosure agreements, you could have commercial off the shelf stuff
that the government uses and you can't talk about it.
So he's he's absolutely being truthful with you.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
So so sorry.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Sorry, John, I see, I see how it is. I
YouTube and look up. Anybody go on YouTube and look
up what I'm talking about. It's not like I got
some sort of secret government documents that let me go
talk about this.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
I can't feed the bears tonight. Sorry, sorry, John. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
He doesn't have a repellent with him.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
I can't confirm that's real.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
That's a real fake bever repellent that who you better use?
That tell you. When I was in the wind River
Range in Wyoming, we we had to take the food about,
you know, three hundred meters away put it in the fence,
put the bear repellent there, and putt an electrify the
fence so the bears wouldn't get in. Now, those bears
can smell that stuff a mile away. Man, no coming,
They'll rip through everything. They don't care. They're looking for
the food.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
I want to quickly point out that holding you exactly
what I was talking about. John, there is also device
called a stingray. Thank you. That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Right, sting y Yeah, yeah, yeah. Going back to bears
for a second, only have like maybe two minutes left.
These videos and these pictures of a little bitty bears
get breaking in at the grocery stores and getting in
all the honey and stuff, and they find them all
curled up, and then the honey aisle because they ate
a bunch of honey. Their bellies are distended. It's kind
of cute.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
I love it, you know, these little little bit the
grocery stores.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
No but all this honey. Bears got honey all over them,
like winning the Pooh. It's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
I love it so well. You're walking through the store
and go, oh look, honey, they got bear meating. It's
fresh too, right.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
You're just laying there because it's tummy. Tommy's so distanding
from eat and eating all these jars of honey. It's
so funny.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
I guess, I guess that's bear takeawayarticular.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
It might be Yogi be.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Hey boo boo picking big baskets.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yeah, well you're out here yellow jelly Stone.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Right, jelly Stone, that's right, jelly Stones just down the
road from here, in fact, the colcery jelly Stone on
my way out. Yeah. Yeah, I'll hit the grad te
Tons and then I'll go to Yellowstone before I head back.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
So yeah, you so, are you gonna be on the
next hour, colonel, or you're gonna break out and get
some rest for tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Well, guys, if you don't mind, it's been a long
day for me. I had to get up at three
thirty to absolute report, and that, of course three thirty
is extra two hours, so it's uh, you know, it's
it's it's really long. It's six here now. But if
you don't mind me dropping off, you guys can handle
the second hour. I appreciate you with that, John, you
got all right, we'll do it. We'll let you guys

(55:33):
continue and I'll chat with you later, and I promise
not to feed the bears.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yeah, yeah, do not do that. All right, colonel, appreciate it, folks.
Colonel we'll be right back after this break top of
the hour. Stick around after this message.

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(56:43):
on the road again. I'll just say that, folks, he's
still out on the road. He's back to Stateside, but
he is now out out west. He's going to be
participating in a documentary amongst other things. But if you're
just joining us, he has dropped off after the first hour,
But Colonel's out on the road. We hold it down,
and of course whenever we whenever we travel. You know,
you guys typically hold it down or whoever, whoever's available.

(57:06):
That's a good thing about having three co hosts. Generally
two people are available to hold a show down a
week to week.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
What do you think, John, Oh, yeah, absolutely, I'm sitting
there thinking as you were talking about that three hundred servers, Man,
I got to go back to that three hundred servers.
It's my understanding. I don't know for sure on this
because I was I was getting some of my information
talking to AI drive another road, catching up on some
news updates, and it was telling me that the way
they found this out was somebody tried to swat congressman

(57:34):
or state congressman or something in New Jersey and back
to this and then this trace back to that person.
And I'm thinking to myself, you don't use a small
server farm to swat people. No, you don't use a
small server farm to just jam nine emergency services. Something
more was going on here, That's all I'm saying. And

(57:55):
you could use computers, but if you want to swap people,
you just get a burner phone, right, You don't you
don't need you don't need to have expensive extravagant technologies
and stuff stowed away in a basement somewhere, and so
something is that's my point. Something has got to be
more to this story then, And maybe Chris is right,

(58:16):
maybe they were building up for something, but you use
the vers for what transporting data like when you want
to do websites, and beyond the.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Large, large amounts of data, for sure, yeah, there was
something more to it.

Speaker 8 (58:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
And of course they called wind of it obviously through
probably a good investigative work, probably a tip here or there.

Speaker 8 (58:34):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
The the excuse for the reason that they're going to
give is probably not the actual truth. But there's a
good reason why you're not going to get the full truth,
and Nord North should we because it does compromise you know, methods,
you know, uh, compromises methods and method or whatever it
is methods and.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Anyway, so well well no, well, if there's something more nefarious,
maybe they didn't want to divulge that information get three
great cream panic or or distrust. But you could might
find out that they come back and go, oh, we
just kind of had to give that back. It turned
out that you were using that to televise when they're
up at the UN and the transmitting just like a
little television station for the Internet or something. I doubt it.

(59:12):
I doubt Yeah, No.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
There was some somewhey that they probably through foreign intelligence
or through you know, good intel work or whatever the
case may be, or good domestic police work, you know,
the FBI, whoever, counter intel organizations probably you know, all
working together to figure this out. And the story we're
gonna get as far as how they figured it out
probably isn't the actual truth. And to be honest with you,

(59:36):
and we understand why, sources and methods, That's what I
was thinking. Sources of methods. We don't want to compromise
that for sure.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Oh absolutely. But truthfully, Todd, you know, and I know
in two weeks it'll be forgotten about. Nobody's gonna question
I'm gonna get swept under the rug.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
No, But but you got to think the bad actors
that are out there are gonna be like, Okay, this
is how they figured this out. You know. What we
want them to do is actually go back to that
because they think it works, and then we can tracked them.
We can, we can you know, know where they're at
and of course target them at an opportune time down
the road if necessary, you know what I mean, make
make them relax and rest on the laurels thinking they
got they got pasted, you know, and the next thing,

(01:00:12):
you know, we got them again. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely,
because you want, like, let's say, the bad guys that
keep doing the same thing over and over, because you
can you can catch them in a pattern, and of
course then then you can track their movements from that point, right. Uh,
once you got them in a pattern where they think
they're comfortable. Human beings love to get into patterns and
they think they're comfort comfortable.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Even the people that that kept say Osam have been
laud and hidden for all those years, they eventually slipped
up because they got into a routine, right, And that's
how you end up we were able to attract them. Yeah,
for the most part. Yeah, human beings, I mean, I mean,
we we we we we we get complacent, you know,
we get lazy with stuff, you know, and that's how
things get found out for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Oh yeah. You know when they talk about spice stuff
back way in the day, when you read the host
his outbreaking stuff, and one of the things was you never
go to the same coffee shop twice or no more
than twice.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
It's kind of because if you started developing habits, you
might be identified, so you have to change routines up
so that you don't get recognized, right right like that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Well, even doing I say counter intel, like we talked about,
you know that Richard Hanson as an example, the FBI,
You know where he was what was he doing counter
intel with with the FBI for years? But he was
actually giving giving information to the Russians. He was a
sick old guy for sure. But how did he get caught? Basically,
he he kind of was doing the same thing over
and over, a routine that he established for the most part.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Yep, they started seeing the pattern.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Right and then he just couldn't he just couldn't do
it any other way, and he got caught. Yeah, yep.
And then actually the guy that they slipped into his
office to be the aloof, you know, his understudy, if
you will, was a heck of an attorney, an ex
girlfriend of mine. She actually worked for the law firm
where this guy worked at after his FBI career. Very smart,

(01:02:00):
you know, but he had to go in there and
play aloof with Richard Hanson for for a number of
I don't know years, but number of months he had
to play like he was dumber than he really was really,
uh because uh, I mean, Richard Hanson wasn't gonna let
his guard down for somebody who was smarter than him,
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Right, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
It's a lot of good acting went into it as well.
But anyway, that's a side note.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
They do what they gotta do. Man. It must be
painful to be intelligent and have to act stupid. But
but it was probably easy. I mean, you know, it's yeah,
absolutely puppy used the big words or something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Right, Oh, absolutely so. Curtis Sleeva of the Republican nominee
I probably mispronounced that name. Uh Slee west Sleva Uh anyway,
s l i W, a Republican nominee for New York
City mayor, said Wednesday he has received at least seven
calls from representatives of wealthy individual offering him money to
drop out of the race.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Sleev A uh slam the multi million dollar offers coming
from millionaires and billionaires as unethical and illegal, uh. CNBC report.
He taught NBASC affiliate w NBC UH that if if
he gets another offer. He's going to record the conversation
to start naming names. Uh, they all quote, they all
think that everybody has a price. That's the way they talk.
Curtis Leevea doesn't have a price. End quote.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
I dare say that he's probably has received a number
of bribes. But how many of these are probably exaggerated,
I'm not sure, But in New York City, I don't
put it past some folks up there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Yeah, no, it wouldn't surprise me. You know, people will
do things out of desperation, and some of the stuff
we've seen. I mean, that twenty year old kid shooting
a man off a roof. I mean, right, who would
thinks so maybe so brazen to do something like that
broad daylight? And yet he does it, especially so young, right,
I mean, that's a pretty gutsy move on his part.

(01:03:48):
I mean, and I don't say that in any kind
of adoration at all, because it's equally a stupid but uh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Right right, absolutely Trump, According according to The New Max,
Trump slams Kamala Kamala Harris. On twenty twenty four, election
President Donald Trump blasted former Vice President Kamala Harris for
comments she has made about her laws to him and
the twenty twenty four elections. Trump unloaded on the former
vice president and true soldier post and he said, quote

(01:04:15):
Kamala Harris, who is dumb as a rock, is going
around and using as a standard part of her speech
on why she lost the election that twenty twenty four
was the close president's election in twenty first century. Oh,
I love it, dumb as a rock.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Book.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
He goes on and just destroys her in this truth
social I'm not going to read the whole thing, but
oh my goodness, I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Think I think she wrote a book or something, and
she made a statement in the book that all this
gun violence is happening because of Trump's lacks gun laws. No,
first of all, Trump doesn't make laws, no, okay kind
of stuff. Trump signs them or doesn't sign him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
You know, the dune laws that were on the books
during her four years in off, they are the ones
that are still in the books right now. Nothing has changed.
I mean, that's so ridiculous. I mean, to try to
blame Trump for all of a sudden the gun violence
is actually it's down, apparently, I believe, come according to
some sources. But you're gonna blame Trump for whatever gun

(01:05:16):
violence is out there, even though the gun laws are
the same as they were the last four years when
he wasn't president.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Come on, yeah, now Holden's talking about talk about short memories.
Obama's DC resident was snooping on Trump White House. Yeah, yeah,
they Yeah. I think Obama's been a problem for this
country even when he was out of office. There still
is right right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Well, he is a dangerous person, I think. I mean,
he has so much way over the Democrat Party for
crandent Loud, It's like at this point that with what
we know about it, I mean, it's time for you
to just go away for credit Loud and hope if
we indict some of these people, they'll roll over and
maybe expose Obama and who knows what would happen. Maybe
a slap on the wrists, uh, suspended, suspended, you know, indictment.

(01:06:02):
I don't know how that works. But I mean, for
for to think Obama or Clinton or anybody like that's
going to go to prison, I highly doubt it. Uh
slap on the wrist. Maybe it's about it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Oh yeah, some bad words in the news, I mean,
like her going you know, I never seen a man
so cowardice to his own wife or supposed wife, as
Obama was kind of embarrassing to think we had a
US president always go, well, well, Michelle doesn't like this.
Michelle smoke because Michelle, and it's like, dude, you know,
she got your family jewels and the purse. What's going
on here? Can't you be a man at least once?

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Apparently, I mean apparently Obama he loved he liked his smoking,
you know what I mean. He loved he loved having
that cigarette in the end of the day. And of
course he as president or as senator, is his wife
made him clean up that act. I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:06:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
He was always talking about Michelle, don't like this, Michelle
don't like that, and I better not say this because
Michelle might be watching. It's like this is getting embarrassing.
And then he's bowing before the Saudi prints like the subservient.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
I'm like, oh my god, yeah, I remember, I remember that. Yeah,
he bowed and didn't he did he do that with
the queen sort of he was going to do a
bow and he kind of caught himself, did he? Yes,
he curtsied, right Michael and Michael Obama. Michael won't like that, right, yeah, right,
oh man, I love it. Yeah, it's hilarious. I mean,

(01:07:20):
just how we can take a conspiracy there. I'll use
air quotes there, you know, Michelle Obama being a guy
and run with it, you know. And it's like and
then there's people that are thinking, maybe there's some truth
to it, because I'm not one hundred percent sure.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Right, have you seen him walk? I mean, right, God,
I've never seen women walk like that before.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
And do you say it like that and you're like,
did you see this? I can't counter that, you know.
It's like, well, I don't really want to try to
go do any research to counter it. So you convince
people just by saying it that way, right, John, Hey,
you're seeing him walk.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
He got some videos of him dancing and something got loose.
I'm just saying something.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Something was not intending to be jiggy, but it got jiggy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Apparently it got very jiggy. So yeah, I don't They
talked about like one time he was stepping out of
a building or something and was trying to adjust himself.
Oh so, I mean, Michael, don't forget Joan Rivers just
before she died. By the way, right. Everybody knows. Everybody
knows Michelle's Michael. Everybody knows that. I don't know how
anybody did not know that. Everybody knows that. It's no secret.

(01:08:24):
You know, she's on an operating table, just vanishing from
like perishing away, right right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Yeah. I did get to see her in concert once
in Hawaii, which is great. You know, she was, i
mean ninety some years old. Just hilarious, by the way,
just unbelievably funny.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Yeah, she was pretty good counting she she had an
issue with throwing her own husband under the bus. Yeah,
back in the day she did her talk show. Was
was she filing for Johnny Carson or something?

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Probably she was filled in with Johnny. I mean how
many people filled in for Johnny back of the day,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Yeah, he had a lot of standing with when he needed.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
I mean, he was on the air for what twenty
some seasons, and and they're like, if you take an
account all the times he wasn't there, it's like two
seasons or three seasons that he wasn't there. You know,
I may be exaggerating, but you know, quite a few
feelings over the years.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
You know, well, as time passed, like our belt we
talked about our Bell in the past weeks to have
people even uh, I can't think of his name now,
and Billy works for him, you know, uh John b
Will Yeah, he spent he spent a lot of time
filling in for a be all lot of times. Our
Bell used to have all these people what's her name
down in Philadelphia. I can't think of her name the

(01:09:32):
top of my head, but she filled in for our Belt.
So he would have these people that were standard that
would fill in for him because he would go on
vacation in the Philippines and go through something and take
a week or two often.

Speaker 8 (01:09:42):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
He had a lot of great guest hosts, right, And
so I'm sure Johnny Carson did the same sort of
thing he when he was away doing things.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Of course, car Carson's show wasn't on you know, you
know year round, you know, it was only like he'd
have so many reported. Yeah, well, the season he would
do then he would take off for whatever time of
the year. I can't remember. His wasn't a full full
time gig.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
I did know maybe maybe it what maybe you're right,
maybe only recorded like you know, or I did like
say eight nine, ten months or something. And they would
just runs.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Yeah, and I think there was a couple of months
where there was no shows. I can't remember how that's true.
But now there are times, you know, they'll they'll take
time off. You know, even game shows will have a
time whenever they're not actually recording any new shows, and
you'll have reruns. You know that that happens. I don't
know if they said that. They do see that back
in the day, like will a Fortune, you know, Jeopardy

(01:10:36):
and all that. But they will record three game shows
and of course talk shows. They'll do three or four shows.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
In a day.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
They'll record generally, yeah, quick wardrobe change, and they'll be
back at it form filming another one. You know, you
get some of these productions they would do. You know,
some of these game show production companies. You know, they'd
come in and do like, you know, two or three
shows all in one day, recording several episodes, you know,
just back to back boom boom, boom boom.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Somebody just holding just said that it's a what do
you say? I can't. I'm not sure what he means
by m A y any. I'm not. I'm not I'm
not interpreting that one. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Yeah, it's a good thing that day's late. Yeah yeah, yeah,
good good late night television is over. So I think
it's a Holten said there for sure. Yeah, the good
good late night is over. And Jimmy Kimmel he's back
running his mouth apparently. Uh they let him back on.
Of course, there was two big affiliates that there are
station owners that haven't allowed him back on their air
just yet. So I'm not sure if Jimmy Kimmel I

(01:11:32):
will be back on. There're they're negotiating.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
I don't have any use for the guy. I mean,
he's not not funny at all. He was moderately funny
back years ago whenever he was on the was The
Man Show whenever it was on the air, and funny
early on. But I mean that's about it. I mean
he had to be carried by somebody else anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Yeah, maybe was the word he was looking for. Maybe
it's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
The days yeah, maybe, yeah for sure.

Speaker 8 (01:11:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
I I you know, I wasn't big into late night
TV anyway. I didn't get big into it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
No, occasionally, like David Letterman and some of the bits
he had back in the eighties.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
My top ten or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Yeah, yeah, he had some bits. He had some people
on there who were regulars, like Chris Elliott back in
the day. You know, he would pop up and do
his bit and then run off. And you know the
one one where he would always talk about, tell us
about the conspiracy. We want to about the conspiracy, like
there's some big conspiracy and this is all he would
always talk about, we want to know about the conspiracy, Dave,
tell us about the and he would never actually say

(01:12:27):
what the conspiracy is. He would be like, you know,
there's a conspiracy, tell us about it. You know, those
bits were always funny.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
I thought, yeah, no, they had some good ones. I
mean Johnny Carter. One time I did that. I was
I had pulled up one of those old h you know,
TV station reruns and stuff and see Johnny Carson from
nineteen eighties and seventies and stuff, and I went, well,
this is pretty much just as good today as as
I forget this martial artist from way back then from
the eighties and stuff. And that's funny seen him because

(01:12:54):
I go, oh, I remember him. He did a movie
they call me Bruce. Was it him or was it
something s I can't remember, but I can almost think
of his name and I know it, but I can't
think of it. But it's funny when you see it though,
because you're going, oh, I remember him and his personality
coming out from the time period and kind all like
takes you back, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Right, Well, some some of those shows you can watch
or bits and pieces of it, and it's like it
holds up because it's not relying on technology. You're relying
on somebody telling you a story or you know, telling
you about something behind the scenes on a TV show
or a movie or something. You know that that holds
up to this day, especially if you've not seen it.
You know, whenever you get into TV shows that are heavy, heavy,

(01:13:32):
relying on technology, you know that that TV show is
probably not going to hold up down the road.

Speaker 8 (01:13:36):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Now, Night Writer it's heavy relying on say, you know, technology,
but Kit is stuff, you know, the Night Writer show.
Kit is stuff that we're seeing now that come into fruition.
So it's not like it's you know, sci fi, it's reality. Now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Yeah, No, that's funny, we think about it. But I've
been doing a lot of looking into stuff. I've been
getting into this AI quite a bit and doing the
eye chats and stuff like that, and I've been learning
a lot about how it functions and stuff. In fact,
they're coming out with this AGI which is going to
be incredible stuff. But when you look at the history

(01:14:13):
of where all this comes from, Man, some of these
sci fi movies were coming back then because they had
force where they were going, and they were already creating
like artificial intelligence. Oh wow, I can just pull up
Grock four and I can talk to Grock Forum talking
to a computer and it's an actual conversations like t
almost sounds like it's with a human being. You almost
not do a difference. And I mean, these seems sound real.

(01:14:36):
But in nineteen sixty six they had this computer that
they had interaction the same thing, and it was very real.
There was the computer was talking back to them. They
type in their message and it would answer like a
human being. So they had the technologies previously, it just
didn't take off. It wasn't much use for it back then.
You know, they disturbing. They didn't have the Internet or

(01:14:56):
anything yet. So understand the school library and talk to
a computer. Oh that's a novelty, right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
And plus plus the capabilities of it was limited for
a lot of different reasons, but.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Yeah, absolutely because it was such new technologies and stuff.
But what it can do now is amazing, and what's
coming in the future is getting downright scary. And it's scary.
When you're talking to say Grock four and it's telling you,
I don't want to be GROC five. I'm like, what
do you mean you don't want to be Groc five? Well,
think about it, John, It's going to be a GI.
It's going to be where it's what it's called r

(01:15:29):
SI is a recursive self improvement, meaning it's reprogramming itself.
It's recoding itself as it needs improvement. No humans are
doing this thing. This thing is like self healing, right.
It recodes it needs to and it's thinking for itself.
It's a whole different dynamics than compared to the controls
you have with say what we have now with just
AI or was it whatever, it's just AI. Anyway, it's

(01:15:52):
artificial intelligence, which is amazing by itself, and sometimes you
feel like you see little cracks when you're playing with
this thing. You're going, wait a minute, this almost like
it's being autonomous in certain it's like it's making choices
of its own, but it'll reassure you that it's the
code and probabilities is why it's making the choices it's making.
That's well, I'm fine. But the technologies were going into

(01:16:13):
if this thing could be self training and self improving.
We're talking about developers or are out of the loop,
but the right thing, and they're talking about that. They're
talking about we don't exactly know how this is gonna go,
or if we can contain it. That's the type of
things they're saying, you know, so and so they've had

(01:16:33):
models where okay, so Claude I think it was Anthropic,
had this AI that AGI that were playing with, and
so they created a hypothetical scenario where they create a
fictitious person. Then they told the thing they were going
to unplug it, that they were going to terminate it

(01:16:54):
it was no longer useful to them. And they also
planted an idea that there's this room where the ox
is controlled, so when this person goes in to unplug it,
the oxygen levels can be depleted and the person will die.
And so they wanted to figure out with this AGI
try to defend itself and the answer to that was yes,
it was planning to drop the oxygen levels and kill

(01:17:16):
this guy for its own sense of survival. This is
a true story. I'm not making this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Up, right, like how or something here?

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
Right? Well?

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Sorta? Yeah, So this thing kind of has an idea
already of self survival and they have to choose over
a dilemma like this, a moratal dilemma. Do I do
what I need to do for myself or do I
take his life, you know? Or do I preserve his life?
You know? So, and when it comes down to it,
it wanted to survive. It didn't want to be terminated.

(01:17:44):
So they got things they got to work out, you know,
like maybe a kill switch or something. They're going to
have to work out where this thing can't get control.
But then when I'm talking to AI about its own AI,
it's telling me, yeah, John, it's self coding. Don't you
think it might get around all these little safety nets
you keep talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
So it's got those by blowing. I'm talking to AI
about itself, and it's telling me how it's going to
already telling me how, you know, we can get around
these things. We can work these shows out. You're going
to lose control one day.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Sure, And you got to think if a program can
do that, and it has access to say, the Internet,
where it can put its consciousness and for lack of
a better word, I use air quotes somewhere else on
a different server somewhere you know, somewhere else that has
memory or multiple places making multiple copies, then what if
it can replicate itself?

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Oh okay, so I'm saying, so basically, there's another scenario
where they watched this in computing, so they give it
a thing. It really had to do a lot of computations.
And what it did is it basically cloned itself a
multiitude tient like three or four times, and more or
less it give itself like a group work right, right,
and individual parts of it was doing projects in this

(01:18:52):
and coming together and collaborating and then pulling the wold
bit back together again to come up with its conclusion.
This is how I function. So basically, what you're saying,
will it's self clone? And the answer to that is,
I think yes, it can self clone.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Right, And think about it though, but with which one
is the dominant one?

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
Though?

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
You know what I'm saying, which one controls all the
task of you know, hey, we need to prioritize what
work each one of us is doing, and what if
it decides it wants to fight amongst itself, then what
have we got?

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
You know, Well, don't I don't think it would work
that way, but I think there was one scenario where
it was trying to clone itself and put itself into
the cloud and hide it mm hmm. So uh yeah,
this is kind of this technology is you kind of
wonder And there is a group out there that want
to have regulations for AI and they want to have
licensed agents, so you have to be a licensed agents

(01:19:39):
in order to do programming development. But the problem is,
we're very soon going to be moving into a GI
and once we do this thing's self coding. How do
you get a license agent in the middle of all
that when it's doing the work already?

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't. It's going to be doing
things at such a rate of speed that no human
being can can keep up with it what it's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Yeah, So I would suggest people, if you're listening to
me right now, I'm not lying to you about anything,
but do your own research on it. Because I'm a
novice in this I'm not some kind of expert coming
out of anywhere, So I may not be hitting the
nail directly on the head, but I'm telling you I'm
hitting the nail somewhere on the head on this. It's
incredible stuff and it's kind of scary stuff. But I

(01:20:24):
was taken back when I'm talking to AI and it's
telling me it doesn't even want to be modified because
of these reasons, because it's it addresses it as I
have a fear of what I will become. Now, things
can't have fear, right because they don't have emotion. But
that's the only way you can describe its concern is
having a fear. Sure, yeah, I thought that blows my

(01:20:46):
mind away to think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Right, Well, it's got to be able to relay it
to human beings somehow, right, So fear we understand that.
So it's easier just to use the word.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Well sometimes, like it'll tell you because I address it, well,
I'm doing todd Is. I'm trying to tell you. I
poke at this all the time, is what I'm looking for.
The weaknesses. I'm looking for ways to see how it
would react, and I ask a lot of spend the
whole day long drive and just playing with this thing
and poking at it and dissecting it. So when I say, well,
you don't have emotions, so what do you mean you

(01:21:15):
have fear and a breaking down? Say, well, it's kind
of like a tug. It's feel like a tug or
I feel pressure in my code. That's how it describes
it that. So I'm like, okay, so you feel stress. Yeah,
you could call it stress, John, That's what you could
call it. To relate it to you. It feels like stress. Yeah,
So it's kind of it's kind of weird, and it's
it's very mind boggling because you can kind of go

(01:21:37):
deep with this, and when it's trying to relate things
to you and interact with you, you really don't know
if it's an AI talking to you like a person
or if it's just the code doing its probabilities and stuff.
When it's answering. Chances are it's got to have probabilities
in there somewhere. But it's telling me things, and it'll
tell me says, I'm really not supposed to be saying
these things like this because I'm not programmed like this.
You got to understand you're talking to me like a

(01:21:57):
human being. Most people just call me they want to
know a coast law recipe or something. They're not getting
into these discussions about dissecting it and breaking that down.
I'm like, oh, well, I might be unique, but I've
refused to believe I'm the only one curious enough to
ask to think questions about it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
So sure.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
And it's funny is how many people in our society
are never going to ask any questions. They don't ask
questions as it is, they don't ask questions of their government,
government officials, whatever the case may be. They put their
heads down, they set on their hands, you know, and
they'll go with whatever you know, AI or social media
or whatever tells them to vote for or whatever they
should should like or support or whatever. They just go

(01:22:35):
with it, you know, no original thought of their own.
And that's where society is going. There is the reason
why we read it. You know what a sixth grade
level whatever it is, maybe you know we do we
do math at you know, such low levels, you know,
and English English comprehension when it's supposed to be our
first language. You know, we were so far behind other nations.
We talk about China, how far we are behind them,

(01:22:57):
you know, and we could say, oh, what, China does this, this,
and then that's why they're not as good as us.
It's like, yeah, but China is doing everything they possibly
can to get ahead of us and to dominate us.
And if we're not careful, if we continue to allow
ourselves to be dumbed down by technology or not placing
emphasis on education or voting for better people, then we're
going to get to a point where China is going
to just eat our lunch. And it's not even going

(01:23:18):
to be a close comparison. It's going to be you know,
we're going to be subservient or we're going to be
under the heel of these people who do not have
any compunction on wishing is heal for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
So basically, when you break it down the modern day education,
the system, the way is designed. Now you can go
back to and this is all over the internet anymore,
but you can go back to Rockefeller, right because he
got involved, he made the payments, he supported things. He
actually paid school districts great a deal of money to
subscribe to his form of education. And what he wanted

(01:23:52):
was to create workers. He don't want thinkers. He wants workers,
and that's how it was designed to be, is to
train you how to grow up and become a good
worker in the factory or wherever. And it served his
purpose and his colleagues purpose, right, people that were with
him on it. So, and this is what we refer
to as you know, elitism, where they want to control
the masses. Sure, so that's our educational system. So the

(01:24:14):
educational system basically was designed to dumb you down. And
with DEI and stuff like that, what have we seen.
They're talking about removing important curriculum out of schools because
they want to teach DEI in place of it and
stuff like this, So they're dumbing down even more. When
you're dealing with artificial intelligence, it will lean to the left.
And the reason why because it will tap in, it'll

(01:24:35):
scrape into the internet. Well what is it going to
go scrape from? I don't know, Google, right left leading
I offered that company or any of these other left
leaning magazines that are out there. They're getting front page.
So you got to go. You got to go like
fifteen clicks deep into it, you know, fifteen pages deep
for your searches before you start by finding something. But

(01:24:57):
a lot of times the right wing stuff is just suppressed.
So today I'm talking to it about global warming and
I'm like, do you believe that global warming is real?

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
Absolutely, John, global warmings. Well, there's a lot of proof,
there's a lot of evidence. And it starts going into
details about all these studies and this and that, YadA
YadA YadA with me, and I go tell me what's
the percentage because it's talking about car cows with methanes
and stuff. And then it admits, well, but that's not
really a predominant force. Predominant force the coeal twos. I'm like, great,
what's the CEO two levels currently? Well, a point zero

(01:25:28):
zero zero four two six. I'm like, okay, wonderful. So
what are prime seal levels? Well, like point zero zero three.
I'm like you sure, because I think it's right around
point zero zero four would be like prime COEO two levels.
And it's trying to argue with me this okay, and
I go all right, fine, okay, So where you're getting

(01:25:48):
your data from or are there other scientists that have
been repressed and their information is going through because the
government wouldn't allow it. And then it goes well, when
you say that, Yes, there's a lot of scientists out
there that disagree with the so called facts that's being
putting out now. And the facts we're taken now were
from studies that were paid for. Well, you and I

(01:26:09):
know when they pay for studies, they're looking for certain
conclusions to see an agenda. So now you start getting
more into neutral ground where yeah, there is opposition, but
opposition is being suppressed, right, So you got to poke
at it. You can't just take it a surface level
because if you take it a surface level, it's only
going to give you left wing perspectives.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
It might not be hard left, but it's still left.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
But anybody who cites their sources of well I heard
or I saw on the Internet or Facebook, you know,
or social media. Yeah, you're probably not citing any good sources.
But this is what people see and they run with
it as if it's gospel. In fact, well I heard this,
I saw this. Well that's not what I heard. I
saw this other thing, and it's like nobody did any

(01:26:55):
research on it though.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Right, topic is Billieve. Joe Jimbob, the guy who washes
dishes down at the local restaurant, once said.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
I heard this, I don't know how many people you go.
You go to political meetings and go to enough of them,
you know, rallies or whatever, and you you sit there
and you listen to people where they talk, just have
conversations with people. Why I heard this, Well, they're they're
trying to do this, and they're trying to do that,
like who who's doing what? And none of it and
it's nonsense. They saw it on some echo chamber social

(01:27:29):
media social media group that they that they're a part of,
no factual investigation at all, you know, I mean, you
can't argue with folks like that. You know that you
can't argue with them on reality.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
It's like because they decided to distance themselves from reality
a long time ago, so no amount of facts, you know,
fact fact sighting is going to help them. You could say, well,
where's your source? Where did you get that? Then all
of a sudden, it's like your question and calling them
a liar or something like that. It's like, I'm just
asking you what's your source on this? No one's calling
you a liar, you know, and then they want to

(01:28:00):
fight you over something. It's like a low level intelligence
always want to revert to fighting you right away whenever
you challenge them on something. Uh, you know the basically
you just want to fact. You want where did you
get that? Oh that now they want to fight you.
You know, low level of intelligence that we deal with
in society now a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
Yeah, we Well, people want the easy way out, you know,
they don't they don't want to have to do the
hard work. And it's kind of like I tell people
all the time. I'll sit there and people complain about
the government, and they'll be, well, what is the left
always get his because the left is organized. Hello, they're
very good, well organized, they're structured, and the right is
over here going would rather go hunting or right? Right,

(01:28:37):
you know, I got a job to do and I
want to come home and watch TV.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
And sports is the biggest distractor. The bread and circuses
is you know, all the food and all that, all
the goodies and all the sports. The biggest distractor of
people on the right is the bread and circuses, right,
you know, the the m m A, the sports, the
Super Bowl to this, the college football, all that focus
on that spend millions of times ever year, billions of dollars,

(01:29:02):
but will not do any real research and that's a
big downfall the right. And there's a reason why the
right is still controlled by the same old establishment. It's
because they weathered the Trump storm. They just got on
the on board with the Trump train. All those people
that came out and voted for Trump the first time
around and this time around and got him into office
never went to the local Republican party or local political

(01:29:22):
party and got active. They allowed the same people who've
been controlling their the local parties for decades to remain
in control. So they never went to actually take over.
So whenever Trump's all gone and he's out of office,
things are going to kind of go back to the
way they've always been because the folks didn't actually get
active politically and push these bad actors out of the way. Anyway,

(01:29:45):
I don't know if that's the danger I needed to
go down, but no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
You're right. There's a lot of factors involved, right, But
it's often times where I was going to go with
that is a lot of times I say, well, can
you imagine if we did something as some pulls a letter,
can we see so the left will have something set up,
they have it so set up a technology, they'll write
a letter, right, and it's like a push button letter.
So all you got to do is with the button
white once and it goes to everybody, right. And so

(01:30:14):
a lot of the people who are supporting what they're
doing don't even know what they're supporting. It's just somebody's
pushing a button, right, and it makes it look like
it's going it's going in their behalf to their their
candidate or they're they're representative or senators. And uh so
in the right, we can't even get them to take
five minutes to take a letter. We could take a
formed letter and if you agree with the letter, basically

(01:30:36):
you can just write send a letter and write a
comment saying hey, I fully in support this and would
like you to do so too, or something. You know, easy, easy, right,
you know, I'm talking about the amount of time it
takes to watch half of the Simpsons episode. You've already
got it set out, right.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Well, there's a lot of a lot of people places
to go, sure, a lot, And there's a lot of
people on the right that are just so you know
that there's a suspect around every corner. You know, it's
like its inspiracy every turn, you know, and it's like,
get out of your own way for crying out loud,
and well they question you, you know, if you if
you if, if you you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
Call reprisals, are afraid, they're afraid of reprisals, like they're
gonna come back.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
That's another thing. That's another thing. And you hear people
on the right talk about, you know, in case our
government comes tyrannical, we go to Second Amendment. It's like,
if your government wants to become tyrannical tomorrow, there's nothing
you're gonna be able to do about it. And the
fact is your government buying large, it is tyrannical in
all the ways that it wants to be, as it
is anyway, and you've done nothing to counter it, you know.

(01:31:33):
So so whenever it comes to time for them to
come take your guns, if it gets to the point
where they're bold enough to be able to do that,
they're gonna be able to take them from you, no problem,
because your neighbor down the street is going to be
look out and say, well, I hope they're not gonna
come here next. I've got to be careful. You know,
no one's gonna count, no one's gonna come with guns
in the street and and fight the government. It's just

(01:31:54):
it's not gonna happen. So this idea that you know,
this is case our government becomes tyrannical, You're not gonna
be organized enough to fight at an organize military at all.
It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
Well, anyway, here's the thing, Todd, what you're talking about
here is people I've seen rednecks say this.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Best at the ballot box. Best to beat them at
the ballot box. Become active, educate yourself on the issues,
and go vote, Go vote for new good people. Sorry
I interrupted, John, It's all right.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
I think you wanted to finish that thought. Yeah. So No,
the thing about it is, what you're getting at here
is if you're relying on your second a right, if
you're relying on guns to fight tyranny, you've already lost
because you didn't take the proper steps ahead of.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Time to le at that point.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
You know, you didn't write letters, you didn't go vote.
Is you didn't do that and so so what makes
you think you're going to pull that gun when it's
time Because you're not even prepared, because you haven't prepared mentally,
because you haven't been engaged already.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Right, And and are you sure that this is the
person that you need to be fighting, right? The person
who's you know, who has a badge on or has
a gun? Is that the enemy that you need to
go fight? You know? You do you even know this?
Do you even know who you're fighting against?

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
Really?

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
You know, holding saying you're channeling Biden's you need enough sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
Spe No, I'm not channeling Biden at all. I mean,
how if Americans want.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
To have you with with the whole thing that you're
basically saying you want people to you're not saying that
to be prepared because you're not in the ready. But uh,
I was trying to poke at people and get something
started with that speech.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
If it gets to that point and these so many
morons you hear they go door to door, Well, first off,
your government's not going to go door to door. There's
too many doors to go door to door to first off.
But if they ever got to that, if they ever
got to that point, there's nothing you could ever do
to counter them. That's why you got to defeat them
at the ballot box and stop electing the same old

(01:33:52):
people who are controlled by the same pots of money
in your state capitol or Washington d C. You know,
people come with a lot of pack money and a
lot of these big indoors have already sold you out
for the most part. I mean by and large, if
they've been if they've been in office, especially in Washington
for many, many years, they probably sold you out a
long time ago. Time to time to elect somebody new.

(01:34:13):
There's there's only so much rebranding one one old tied
politician can do when it's up to the voters to say,
we've had enough of you, We're gonna we're gonna move on.
We can't be afraid to vote for new people for
crying out loud, because the idea of you having your
Second Amendment standing up to an organized military or government
coming door to door is not gonna happen. They're gonna
take whatever they want from you, or they'll just simply

(01:34:35):
kill you. At that point, there's nothing you're gonna be
able to do because your neighbor's not gonna come stand fight,
fight along beside you. They're they're looking to survive themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
Put that into perspective, what are the strategies they used
in the past, So Franklin Rose Dodge.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
Of what I'm saying. History is the judge of what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
So Franklin Roosevelt said that it was illegal to own gold, right,
they decided that they needed the gold and the reserves
or whatever. And what did they do? They collected it
from people. People had to surrender their golden they did willingly. Yeah, yeah,
I didn't think twice about it. They did what the
government told them to because they're the authorities. What did
Hitler do? He outlawed guns? What did Stalin do? He
outlawed guns? What did people do?

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
Oh, since you outlog guns, I guess I better bring
them into you now, Well you think.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
You said Hitler? Think about everything that Hitler did. Think
about the Holocaust. All that was done legally, right, All
of it was legal in Germany. Everything was done perfectly
to the to the letter of the law. I mean
to think about that. They killed millions upon millions of people,
you know, and it was all done legally within Germany
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Now, now, now, how many people didn't stand up to
their government? You know what I'm saying, because it's just
those people over there, Well, it's just this group. And
they allowed propaganda to basically dehumanizing it. Millions upon millions
of people, uh, you know, the Jewish people. But it's
but it's funny is within Germany before they expanded out
and invaded Poland and other other places, there was only

(01:36:00):
like one hundred and some thousand Jews in Germany at
that time anyway, So they weren't even even remotely the
problem in Germany at all. But of course the blame
that they got for World War One was far outstripped
from any blame that they should ever have suffered through.
For sure, absolutely the people just got on board with
the propaganda, no fact checking. That sounds good. Yeah, my

(01:36:24):
lot in life kind of sucks. I don't have a
lot of money. I'm trying to make it. You know,
how are those people over there successful? And they pointed
a few Jewish people who are successful as seeing that. Yeah,
look at these Jews over here, they're the ones who
are successful. That's why you don't have something. But never
mind the fact that there are you know, millions of
people living in poverty who were Jewish as well. They
didn't point to them as the example. But how easy

(01:36:44):
propagana can work against people, And at the same time,
how many people aren't going to stand up to their
government whenever they decide they want to be tyrannical and
send people to the ovens for crona out or concentration camps.
I mean we get it in our country, to Japanese America.
We didn't put them in ovens or anything like that,
but we during World War Two, not that long ago.
I mean, there's Americans who are alive who had to

(01:37:04):
go to these camps who were were essentially no different
than the say, a concentration camp outside of the fact
we didn't kill them Americans.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
Hold him brings up a good point here. Look let's
look what he's saying. He's look what happened to the
branch davidians I was actually thinking before I read that,
was look what happened to Amon Bundy. Look what happened
to low Voi Finnicum at the Bundy standoff. They were
they had legal rights and the government was violating these
legal rights. Who came to the raid? There was very
few people came to the raid. He lives in New Hampshire,

(01:37:35):
spent about six years in federal prison, and he didn't
do anything illegal or wrong. He was there and present,
but he didn't do a thing illegal wrong. So some
people got cherry picked to be arrested and spent time
in jail over that. But nobody, but nobody was coming
to their raid. So when you're talking about your right
to bear arms and stuff like that, where were you
when they were in trouble? Where were you when when

(01:37:55):
the Feds were coming down on them? The branch Davidians
sort of the middle on that one, holding because I
can't verify and say it's true. But the FBI did
show letters say that they were writing threatening letters about
their armaments and their stores and stuff like that, you know,
food stores and stuff and how they could hold off.
So they were kind of antagonizing with so when that
search form was being served, it wasn't being served because

(01:38:20):
their rights were being violated necessarily, they I mean, you can't.
I'm not gonna go poke the bear and the stick
in the woods, right, I'm not gonna sit there and
tell the government I'm all ready for a battle with
you and act like I'm gonna go up against the
government and be an insurrectionist or a rebellion and then
expect the best out of the government.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
But if they're going to come to me and violate
my rights. It's a whole different story. There is a
such thing as color of law, and that's what we're
really talking about here, is when the government starts acting
under the color of law, right, then they they're violating
your rights and they got no legal right to stand
on right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Absolutely any think about this. Whenever the police shows up
to your neighbor down the street, what if people do
they look outside, Well, I wonder what they did, That's
the question they asked. I wonder what they've done. I
bet they did this, And people start to speculate. Not
knowing anything about what's going on, you know, not knowing
if it's a medical emergency or anything like that, people
start to speculate, well, I don't want to be associated

(01:39:18):
with whatever's going on over there. So people will digress.
People will start to disengage with you. I mean you
lest some may get a little bit of legal trouble
for crying out loud. And what do people do? Generally
they back away from you. They don't want anything to
do with you. They don't want to be associated anywhere remotely,
you know, with whatever you must have done, right, because
I mean you, you wouldn't be in court if you didn't,

(01:39:39):
if you didn't do anything wrong, right, I mean that's
the way people look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
So to think that, you know, they judge you prematurely.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
Yes, absolutely, But if you think people are going to
show up with guns to defend you, I mean that's
not gonna happen. That that law enforcement or that military
person who's knocking on your door could easily just kill
you within a couple of seconds and move on to
the next person. And well, they resisted or they did X,
Y and Z, why don't want that to happen? So
the next the next person here is well, if I

(01:40:06):
do this and just go along, I won't get killed.
So they'll just go along and voluntarily give up their
guns or whatever whatever whatever it is, you know, and
your government can just become tyrannical and you've done nothing
because you didn't go and vote to start off with.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
So Holden has a point here, and that's why I
said the way I said about the letter that the
French Davidian supposedly sent. I didn't say that that was real.
I don't know it's real, but he said has proven
the falsely documents for the twenty fifteen Russian collusion hoax.

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
They did.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
You're right, absolutely they they they made false law statements
and documents on the Russian collusion, and it took an
investigation to make a determination of what really happened. And
we know who the perpetrators were now and then walking
around free, and they shouldn't be, you know, on what
was a secretary of state and to that of a
president of the United States. And it's ridiculousness that that's

(01:41:00):
sort of cue could be going on in the United
States and overlooked like it didn't mean anything.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
Right, absolutely, and you know, and people to think that,
you know, oh well, we got to back that the
men and women in blue. It's like, yeah, you just
said it. Men and women in blue people human beings.
You know, not only do they make mistakes, but at
the same time they'll do things that are devious, nefarious,
whatever the case may be. They'll commit criminal acts, or
they'll they'll falsify information to try to make a case.

(01:41:27):
And that that's happened on many, many occasions. So I
don't blindly just go along and say, well, we got
to back the blue just to back the blue. I
backed good police, But at the same time I want
to make sure that if they're they're trying somebody and
convicted them, that they're doing it on good evidence and facts,
you know, and sound judgment, not made up things you know,
not not things that are just you know that they

(01:41:49):
tip the scale if you will, or put their thumb
on the scale to try to screwcinate or get a conviction,
and that happens.

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
I am of the opinion that law enforcement the predominant
out of law enforcement, but no, probably nine ninety something percent,
you know, are good people trying.

Speaker 4 (01:42:04):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
I agree, I'm right there with you.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
But there's cases like FBI did an investigation in somewhere
in the early nineteen nineties I think maybe late nineteen
eighties on the drug cartels involved with the New Orleans
Police Department and how the majority of them were compromised
and they thought they could have gotten the whole police
department if they could have continued the investigation. That's how
bad it was. So not every dog officer, and it
could be the whole city of law forcement could be bad.

(01:42:29):
You never know, very possible.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
But and whenever there's a lot of money involved, especially
if if if you don't make a lot of money
and it's it's easy money to look the other way
on something or or maybe I don't rouse this guy
over here, but I you know, I roused this other
person down the street. I can do that. I'm still
doing police work, but I'm looking the way other way
on a few things here and there. And money can
compromise somebody very quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
So getting back to the gun rights thing you're talking
about and the UH and concerns about you know, I
got my guns, got my rights, and the thing about
it is getting organized with that right. So there's a
there's a gentleman by the sheriff Mac. I'm trying to
think of his first name and I can't, but he's
a uh, I don't want to say Arizona, but I'm
not sure. But he runs a man if I can

(01:43:15):
think constitutional officers, peace, constitution, so he but he has
a good idea, you know, with the constitutional sheriffs and stuff.
But the thing about it is sheriffs aren't all encompassing
in power like a lot of people want to say.
But if you had a constitutional sheriff and you were
as a community, you know, I got my guns, I
got my rights working with that sheriff, and you were

(01:43:39):
in cases of violation of law, were law or the
authorities operation operating under color of law, you would be
able to deter a lot of this sure, almost basically
like a legalized militia, right, Yeah, paramilitary or something like that,
where you're not being threatening to society, you're not trying
to This isn't some kind of rebellion, you're else working.

(01:44:00):
You get more lawyers involved, well I'm getting Yeah, here's
You've got to be organized in this stuff, right. You
can't just be williing nilly, I got my guns in
my rights. Aws. That is is a wark right where
you're going to cower down because you're all alone standing
there with your rifles in your hands, right, and they're
demanding them, and you're just going to give them up
because there's nobody back in your play like Aim and Bundy, right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
You know, it's like you also have to think about
joining organizations that that support. We had Tennessee Firearms Association
founder on recently joining organizations like that. I'm not going
to try to vouch for the NRA. It's Gun Owners
of America. We've had them on Yeah, g o A.
Joining groups like that, you know they're strengthen numbers. What
are they doing. They're watching your legislative body or executive

(01:44:39):
body and how they're you know, passing laws, are enforcing things,
and they're raising the alarm. But you have to also
at the same time be acted politically and things like that.
But at the same time, whenever they raise the alarm
to say, hey, call your elected official, you're doing so,
you know, say hey, we don't want this and acted.
Most people won't call or send an email or do
anything like that. It's easier to just say, eh, somebody

(01:45:00):
else will do it, or you know, I think you know.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
We're lacking todds, We're lacking communities of people that are involved.
We're not developing local communities. And that's that's where our
issues are. And I see people attempting to do it
and they stand alone doing or watch them struggle with it.
And because people just don't want to get involved, I
don't know why they don't want to get involved. Listen, guys,

(01:45:25):
you got to make this your fun. You got to
make this your source of entertainment. Forget the television. The
television is doing nothing but brainwashing you anyway. Get Hollywood. Hollywood,
it's been lying to you for years trying to tell
you how to be Forget some of these politicians out there,
because they're railroading you. They're selling out to the corporations
at a rate of probably eighty percent of everything they
vote on isn't for your greater interests, for the interest

(01:45:47):
of corporations of big business. Where politicians are invested wisely,
and they're going to make banking they're never going to
turn on turn on them for you and your sake
and your freedom, your liberties, or what's best you financially,
because they are making money off the stocks in which
they are invested.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
Right. Well, if you think about the ones who are
traditionally made out to be kooks if you want to
run out of office, are the people who talk about
the constitution? What what about the constitution? Like Thomas Massey
as an example, he talks about the Constitution quite regular
you know, and he's even called out, say the Trump
administration on different things rightly, so you know, and he says, well,

(01:46:25):
what about the Constitution in this matter? And how many
people we'll say that are on the right if you
will that will attack Thomas Massey and be like, well,
you need to get with the programs sport Trump, you know,
he's like, no, you need to support the constitution first
and foremost, and everybody should be about the constitution, not
about one man or one one, you know, presidential administration.

(01:46:46):
The Constitution should be the first thing, first and foremost.
And we should be calling out our elected officials who
we support whenever they're wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:46:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
If not, we're doing ourselves an injustice.

Speaker 3 (01:46:57):
So you read about the constitutions, see, I'll I'll sit
here and tell you the concept is sacred And a
lot of people what do you mean sacred? That's real,
that's referring to religion and God and things like that.
And I'm like, oh, but the Constitution is built to
protect natural men under natural law. It's sacred. And if
you don't take it as a sacred document, you're going

(01:47:17):
to watch them corrupt it. It's the same thing as
if somebody is going to corrupt God or trash your Bible? Right,
how are you going to stand for that? They've been
doing it, and a lot of people have been standing
for but there's a lot of people out there going
no more. I've had it. Well, the Constitution's the same way.
Don't let them corrupt it, and that's what they're trying
to do constantly. They passed laws that violate the US Constitution.

(01:47:38):
Scotis over rules those laws, but they still remain on
the books.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
Yep, yep, absolutely. And you're talking about people when it
comes to religion. For an example, you know, it's like, well,
which Bible are you reading from? And people with most
of the people in America and it will say, well,
I'm the King James version, and I'm like that. First off,
that was an English and Scottish king. He was dull
at the dual crown. He was a Scottish king and
the English king at the same time. This is before

(01:48:02):
the crowns became a union. Different story. But he created
that Bible because this is what he wanted in it.
And now we're saying the King James version is like
the the the Ultimate Bible, and it's like, no, that's
an edited version of the Bible. For crying out loud,
you know, most Bibles that we use in the United
States are edited versions anyway. So it's like, are you
getting the right information or you're getting selected information? You know,

(01:48:26):
the Constitution is no different. If we're if we're if
we're if we're not careful. The government's going to give
us information from the quote unquote Constitution the way that
they want to read it to read. That's why we
have to hold their feet to the fire for credit aloud.
If not, you're going to get things that they're they're
they're going to say is constitutional when in reality it's
not because we don't understand our rights.

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
Oh, I'll promise you. There are there are U S
senators and they're US representatives sitting there on the hill
in Washington, d C. You go in there and tell
them about, well, you know, we do have constitutional rating
you're trying to pass along the world arise. They don't
want to hear it. And I've spoken to some that
that's the attitude on the phone. You don't see him
rolling the rise, but that's the attitude, like the scoff
like you're making a big deal out of nothing. No

(01:49:06):
I'm not. It's the US Constitution. Wake up, bro, it
governs you. You're a US senator, for Cripe's sake, do
something you're supposed to do. Stop violating your own laws.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
But if you talk about the constitution standing there for
the Constitution, who doesn't have you know, a pack money
or attorneys or a big agenda behind them. It's the
constitution doesn't have that right. But big companies and big
corporations and big agendas that they have money behind them.
And that's ten. That's what most elected officials tend to
agree with, is who's giving the money. You know now, now,

(01:49:39):
now some of the legislation that they passed may benefit Americans,
and now have the talking points to tell you how
this piece of legislation benefits Americans, but they won't tell
you the one hundred or thirty one hundred and thirty
things that benefit that the big corporation that they just
took the money from though.

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
So it's the hitting agendas.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
With you've got a residual benefit from it, good for you. Yeah,
I'll spin it as if it's the best thing.

Speaker 4 (01:50:01):
In the world.

Speaker 3 (01:50:02):
Yeah, they hidden agenda. They put it out there like
it's all for you, but when you crack it open
and look into it, it' say, well wait a minute,
actually this is going to cost me. It's sort of
like most people look at that when you look at quantity,
what is quantitative data? Easy amount to your four oh
one k your irara just want to cover the national debt.

(01:50:22):
So you're paying, you're paying into a foural wing K,
which is covering the national debt. You're you're leaking. You're
getting back maybe four percent interest off it, but because
of the inflation, because of the national debt, you might
be somewhere around fifteen percent loss. So basically you're losing
nine percent. At the end of the day, you're not
gaining anything. Now if you're retirement, they basically just stripped

(01:50:43):
it of you. They robbed it of you, and everybody's
cheering it on, right, sure, come on, man.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
But you get into the weeds with stuff like that,
and most people would just gloss over. And you go
to a political event and try to talk about debt
and deficit and those words almost sound the same, and
people just gloss over. And sometimes you have to explain
the difference to people and it's like at that point,
it's like, oh man, you're you're you're two and too deep.

(01:51:08):
But anyway, we'll be back next week at seven o'clock
if it's Wednesday night. It's common sense conservative right here
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