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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
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(00:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Your hosts Chris Wyatt, Todd McKinley, and John Gorbin.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
John good evening.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Heyy dear Chris. So, yeah, this is not a prerecorded show.
This is going to be live, coming at you, very
very live. I sent Johnny a message so you can
correct this, all right.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
So we got a little technical staff. Who there, folks,
Welcome back to the program. It is Wednesday night, October fifteenth,
twenty twenty five. It's the heart of football season falls
upon us and I can only imagine what it looks
like up there in New England. What is it like
up there? John? Is it beautiful? You got lovely flesh
of leaves this far our house. It's not a good one,
good one.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
It was kind of a mix, you know. We got
some nice, nice foliage. But at the same time, there's
been some dry spells, so it's not as strong.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
A vibrant as it could be, is it.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, yeah, you would like to'd like to see a
bit bit more color, but not too terribly bad.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
All right, Well, I'm not missing anything, not coming to England,
but I am telling you this. One day, I'm gonna
meet Roger at Gates City's monuments.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Now that doesn't rule out North Country. Now, a lot
of people north of where I'm at to see that foliage,
and that might be a little bit more vibrant up there.
I haven't been up that way.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I think you missed that. I said I want to
see Roger at Gates City.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Man, I did I heard it? Oh yeah, I love
those ads.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Man, we got to make it.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
We're gonna Maybe I need to go over there, pop
in and pay him a visit, shake his hand and
tell me I got bros that want to meet you,
one to pick up the other ones in Tennessee. And
I feel like taking a trip and seeing them. You know,
they're good people anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
But yeah, so I take a todd as away from Mississipia.
I think he said he might not be here this tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
He said, he'll probably be late if he does make it.
He is out on business and he does have a
motel room.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
So oh okay, folks, he's in Vegas hookers and bla,
we got it, we got it.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah only, which is no, I'm sorry, but the American
Legion does not say him out to Vegas. They stay
within this good, fine state of Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
All right, So he's doing Legion events tonight, doing veterans business.
All right, Well it is absence. Let's go. John and
I usually discuss who's got the lead? Is your turn
is of my turner? Are we just going to do
it together tonight?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Oh, let's just do it together. It doesn't matter who leads, right,
We'll just do our thing. And it always works out
that way anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
So a quick question, then, did you see that? Literally
like ten minutes ago, fifteen minutes ago, President Trump announced
that India will stop buying oil from Russia. This is
huge because before the Russian invasion, they were only buying
about a billion dollars worth of Russian petroleum per year.
It's jacked up to twenty six billion to forty eight
billion to fifty three billion, and it's even higher this year.

(02:56):
This is one of the reasons why Russia can continue
its war between China and India, buying all its raw
materials and his commodities. This is huge news. Mody thumbed
his nose at Trump until Trump imposed outrageous tariffs on
in the in India's economy is reeling, so they've backed
down once again. Trump is right, the tariffs are a weapon,
a tool to get what he wants.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Well, let's see. Trump has made a deal there with
Israel and Hamas. I'm sure we'll get more in depth
into that, and that's looking good so far. But he
is getting very, very frustrated with Hang on a second,
he's getting frustrated with Russia because they're not coming to
the table. So I believe we got Todd McKinley.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Still show. He's late.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Are you there, Todd?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Hey, John, Yes, he's calling in.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
He is all right, can you hear us? Todd? Well,
you might have to try the other phone. I thought
this one will work better anyway.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I heard him hang out, Yeah he did.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
I had him call in on my my one of
my my spare phone. I thought it would worked better
than the and get better quality than the than the
in house phone, but that didn't work out now so anyway, Yeah,
so I guess he's getting frustrated with with Putin. Putin's
not coming to the table, and let's see Todd's call
him back in. We'll see if we can get Todd
in here. Todd, are you there now? Hello? Todd? All right,

(04:29):
we're gonna assume he can't get I'll send him a message. So,
as I was saying, he uh, there were some reports
that he wants to possibly supply Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine.
And I don't know about you, but I'm thinking that
might be a bit of a bluff. But you know, Trump,
he says it, there's some some sustenance behind it. It's
not you know, Putin doesn't come to the table, then

(04:50):
the Tomahawks mistiles might arrive.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I maybe was Tomhawks. I think someone reported his patriots.
I'm like, already gave them patriots. What's the point? Tomahawks
is a huge deal. I mean, that's that's a bridge
we don't want to cross. We don't want to give
unreliable partners led by grifters like Blood and Massilinski access
to things like Tomahawk missiles. They are our ace in
the hole. We can launch them from submarines, try and
submarines and strike anywhere in the world at a moment's notice.

(05:14):
So it's not something we want others to have their
fingers on. Well, the only time we want them to
see tomahawk is when it's coming at them before it explodes.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yes, Uh, yeah, Well no, we've had We've had people
on the ground as advisors and stuff during the course
of this. So, uh, it wouldn't surprise me if he said, yeah,
we're bringing the tomahawks, but you're not touching them. Well,
that everything up, We'll get everything good to go. Maybe
we'll let you push the button.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, then essentially we become combatants in the conflict, in
the war. That's not a wise idea.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
But we did that alround. Hey Todd, can you hear us?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
No?

Speaker 5 (05:48):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Man?

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, get a ready to take a drive for about
an hour. I just want to call him real quick
and saying alone, tell you have a good show.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Oh you're not.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
I can get them if I can get to my
room in time, I'm gonna I'm gonna log on and
be on the last hour. If I can get there.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Well, put the foot down, hammered down, bro, let's go. Well,
you waste some time, right, get it there.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Take your time. Don't hit deer, don't hit any deer.
It's that season.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah, it's dear Todd. De deer dodging time. Man. No, yeah, no,
we don't. We do want you to be safe. I mean, yeah,
I'll put your foot down, but follow.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
I just want to let everybody know them with the
National Commander for the American Legion here, so we'll run
a little bit of high schedule. So I just want
to call and let you guys know and Teddy have
a good show. If I could be on man the
next hour, I.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Will sounds good.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
I'll talk to you guys soon, all right.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
So that reminds me of something Johnsonce. I mean, we've
got a lot of stuff to talk about, but I
want to bring this topic up now since Todd just
brought up who's the commander of the National Commander of
the American Legion. The National Commander of the Veterans of
Foreign Wars published an op ed this week in response
to a disgusting, shameful Washington Compost article, once again seeking
to denigrate veterans and mislead the public by clay that

(07:00):
veterans are making outlandis claims for disability, and then once
again foolishly and erroneously and misleadingly in a disinformation effort,
trying to convince people that the veterans disability pension is
because veterans can't work, so they're being compensated for not working,
which is utter nonsense. And last year, about eighteen months ago,

(07:20):
I talked about this on the show, and I did
some coverage on my channel in my program in which
I talked about the Washington Post running an article and
I said, watch, they're going to come for veterans after this,
and this is the start of it. They wrote an
article and they tried to equate Social Security disability payments
with a military veterans pension. And I said at the
time that it was smarmy, it was dishonest, and it's
an effort to undermine veterans and to take away things

(07:43):
that make us whole. A veteran's disability pension is not
because a veteran can't work. And the perfect example that
would be the gentleman who works for Fox News. I
can't miss Jones or something like that, Tommy Johnny Jones
or something like that. He's missing two legs from he
was an EOD A specialist to who explosively avoid and
a specialists too had his legs blown off when it

(08:05):
is disarming device. He works for Fox News. I'm sure
he makes more in two hudred and fifty thousand dollars last year,
they wanted a means test. They said veterans that make
over a certain amount of money shouldn't get a disability payment.
And their argument was, well, you know, people don't get
as much money as veterans get or people, you know,
they have to prove they can't work for so scurity disability.
But so scurity disability is not even remotely the same thing.

(08:26):
SO security disability is for people who cannot work, and
many people who get it have never worked in their
lives because they have been able to work. Therefore, the
SO Security Administration gives them a payment because they're unable
to build credits up to build a Social Security retirement
account and give them something to survive because they can't work.
The Veterans Administration disability payments are intended to make a
veteran whole You cannot replace someone's testicles have been blown

(08:49):
off and give them the ability to procreate after they've
had them blown off by roadside bomb. You cannot compensate
someone adequately for ringing in their ears from traumatic braining.
You cannot replace a limb, even with a prosthetic. It
isn't the same. You cannot make a person whole. So
what they do is they make a small effort to
provide a stipend tax exempt, which is not a lot

(09:12):
of money for most people, to help them be whole again.
And that's the purpose of veterans disability pension. It is
not because it can't work. Most veterans are able to
continue working. But they deal with trauma, they deal with disability,
They deal with crushing pain that is a consequence of
their service to this nation, what they gave for this nation.

(09:34):
And here' smarmy Washington Post reporters run stories trying to
equate it with a Social Security disability payment or claim
that veterans are in mass cheating. The system is utter
garbage and nonsense. The commander of the Veterans of Foreign
Wars at the national level wrote an incredible op ed
and I encourage people to go to the VFW home page,
look under their news releases, and look for that opinion

(09:54):
piece from the commander. She was absolutely brilliant. Now not
just saying it, because she stated with many of the
things I've just said heatedly over several years, but you
put it in a very succinct manner, much probably better
than I just did wasting five minutes or trying to
explain this to you. But this is what they do.
I said when Trump lost in twenty twenty, Remember they
would come for veterans first and try to undermine a
reputation and the confidence the public has in veterans, and

(10:15):
then they go for the active duty And that's exactly
what's been happening, and it continues to this day. It's disgusting,
and I just want to go down and take a
load a honeywagon and dump a load of horsemen or
all over the front steps of the Washington Compost.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
So, as you know, I did not serve, and still
as somebody who did not serve in the United States military,
I look at what they do to veterans and it
disgusted me because they made promises and they don't fulfill
those promises. They're suppose as you describe, it was not
a waste of five minutes of our time to hear this, Chris,
by the way, So but no, they they don't fulfill

(10:52):
the goals. They don't fulfill the needs of people who
made sacrifices for the betterment of our suppose a better
men of our country. Has always been argumented of whether
we should have been involved in certain wars. But regardless,
these people served, they gave up their time, they made
the sacrifices. Many gave up their lives, and like you said,
they gave up their ability to live a good quality life.

(11:13):
I was just talking on a show yesterday with Glenn Baker,
who's trying to get people covered for what's this new
robotics they have for what's to call it so superiaalized,
the veterans can walk again, cbnets trying to exoskeleton exoskeletons. Yeah, okay,

(11:34):
so yeah, and and the very expensive Veterans Administration is
supposed to supply these sorts of things doing, but they always,
you know, you've got to meet the requirements or whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Very very narrow threshold.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah yeah, So basically what they're doing is skate Now
they just make it so difficult. People just and you
see this all the time. You see these homeless veterans.
And I told them, I said, you know, my fellow
guest here on comments would tell you, Chris White would
tell you that there's no such thing as homeless veterans
if they need a home, because the VA is supposed
to house them. And he says, yeah, But the problem

(12:09):
is we're still seeing homeless veterans. And my thoughts are
you need an advocate to manage through the red tape
sometimes to the Veterans Administration for benefits and things like that.
I've heard this before. It's like the medical system. It
gets so overwhelming for a lot of people. They don't
know how to navigate for themselves. If you're suffering mentally
or emotionally, sometimes it's very frustrating and they break down

(12:32):
and just give up.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, John, two points about that. Number one, the point
you made about a promise. Yes, the promise has made,
but a promise to promise, and promises are broken all
the time. More to the point, Congress has passed laws.
There's legislation that legislates these payments to veterans. And one
of the reasons why payments have been soaring over the
past decade is because we've spent twenty years at war

(12:55):
and have increased the number of veterans who have traumatic injuries,
post traumatics, rest disorder, wrecked outa's function, cancers, and all
sorts of issues, plus loss of limb and things like that.
All of this stuff has occurred in much larger numbers
over the past two decades. We haven't seen these numbers
since Vietnam. So from Vietnam until the Golf War there's

(13:15):
virtually no combat and we still had disabled veterans, but
because you could be disabled during your service, but the
number was much smaller. Then the number began to grow
again because of the Golf War and constant deployments and
Somalia and Rwanda and the listas on nine. But because
we've been in conflict for two decades until Trump came
in office, we have two decades millions of veterans who've

(13:36):
been exposed to this. Many of them don't even realize
these issues and get evaluated until many years later. That's
one reason. The other reason why the cost of disability
payments is sort is because Congress, after fifty or sixty
years of neglecting the needs of World War two, Korea, Vietnam,
especially with agent arch golf war veterans exposed to toxic

(13:56):
burn pits and things like that. They finally passed the
pack deck overwhelmingly Democrats are Republicans passed the pack deck,
which has expanded the number of eligible veterans exponentially, not arithmetically,
but exponentially, and the VA is making more payments to
people who are now claiming things that they don't even
have to have a very clear tie to it. We
have many veterans day, in a period in their life

(14:18):
long after their service. They may have served a year
and a half, two three years, five years, ten years,
twenty years, long after the service, they developed cancer and
they can go to VA. And I'm not saying they're cheating,
but if it's tied to their service, they're going to
get paid for it. In the past, they would be like,
now you've been out of the army for twenty years,
that cancerous and from your service. Well, now you know.
The VA looks at this very differently, and their threshold

(14:38):
for approving it is very low because Congress mandated it.
Congress did that not veterans. There are veterans who will
always scam, and there also people aren't even veterans who
scam and pretend to be veterans and get away with it.
The point is here. The Washington Post claims they went
through twenty years of data and thousands of files. Yeah,
and you found eight cases you want to tell us
about in US. I realize it can't tell us about

(14:58):
every case, but let's say they found a few do
in cases out of four million disabled veterans. I find
it vile and repulsive. This is not a legitimate publication.
They think they're exposing fraud. The fraud is at the
Washington Post that tries to distort and twist the story
and bully to the commander of the VFW. She did
a fantastic I'm proud to call her the commander of
our VFW because of that. Op ed alone. And I've

(15:20):
been beating this drum for eighteen months, and I'm glad
that people are taking notice of it because the Washington
Post is a sleazy outfit that really needs to be exposed.
That's the first thing to promise, all right, very quickly.
On the homeless thing, To be clear, there are homeless veterans.
There will always be homeless veterans. The problem is manifesting
in so many ways. Number one, mental illness. You have

(15:41):
people that mental illness. You have people who have addiction problems, alcohol, drugs,
and other challenges. And regardless of what you do as
the VA, regardless what you do as the neighborhood, church
or social organization or just a generous person, there will
be people who sleep rough, sleep on the street, they
will or sleep in their car. You cannot stop that.
There will always be somebody like that because of their

(16:02):
own circumstances. However, there is no reason any veteran who
needs a place to sleep tonight should be homeless. That's
a true statement. The Veterans Administration, as I said before,
has a twenty four hour day, seven day a week hotline.
You call. You don't have to be the veteran. You
could see some guy sleeping in the corner down there
and know that he served in Iraq twenty years ago

(16:22):
and see that he's homeless. You can call and say,
there's a homeless veteran. I don't know his name, he's
down here on the street. Here's the address. The VA
is obliged to investigate and get someone out there, and
if they're a legitimate veteran, find them a place this day.
They'll put you in a temporary accommodation or into a
hotel if they have to. But no veteran need be
on the street tonight. There is a reason there, and

(16:43):
it isn't the VA's fault. It's the fault of the veteran.
It's the fault of society, or it's the fault of
people not intervening to help that veteran. And that's the
bottom line. That's want to make sure we don't want
to beat the VA up. We also don't want to overpraise them.
But they do have a mandate to take veterans off
the street who need housing, and they do pay for
a combination for up to a year while you get
yourself sorted out, but they won't pay forever. So that's

(17:05):
an important distinction too. If after twelve months you've done
nothing improve your situation in life, then you're on your own.
As far as I know, I don't there might be
some extensions, but the norm is I mean, we're not
gonna house two three hundred thousand veterans because they won't
go out and find a place to live. But no
veteran needs be on the street tonight. And I think
that's important.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
To say absolutely. You know, if people get something out
of that, they hear that and they understand what you
said and willing to take action. So it's just one person,
it was worth saying.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, Okay, So let's get back to the news. Yeah,
all right, So here's more news. Trump a judge another judge.
Federal judge has temporarily blocked his move to fire federal employees. Yep,
he's blocking. Federal judge temporary blocked trudministration from moving ahead
with mass firings to federal employees while the government shut down.
Judge Susan Ilson issued a temporary straining order in a

(17:54):
ruling from the bench today, stopping the government cutting federal
workers at multiple agencies. The court record suggests that the
Trump mistration was taking advantage of the lapse of government
spending and government functioning to assume that all bets are
off and then laws don't apply to them anymore, and
that they can impose the structures that they like on
a government situation they don't like. Hmm, said Ilston, a
Bill Clinton appointee. So the government's already sent out a

(18:16):
reduction of Force notices four thousand federal employees the last friday.
So this will put a stop to it temporarily. I'm
not sure that the judge is on solid ground. That's just
her opinion. What rules is she talking about. She doesn't
cite rules here, so I guess we'll see what happens.
But for now, no more federal layoffs. But they're still
furloughed because the Democrats won't vote for money.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah, they are. That's what you call activist judges.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Well, I believe she may be an activist judge. I
could be wrong with that, but you got to cite law.
You can't just give your opinion and she's given. I mean,
you give your opinion as a judge, your informed legal opinion.
But she's just giving an opinion here, and she doesn't
cite any basis in law. Unions sued Trump as they
are wont to do to protect their employees. The fact
that government workers are in unions I find obnoxious. Government workers,

(19:00):
if there essentials, should not be in unions. Air traffic controllers,
military law enforcement should never be allowed to be in
unions in my view.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Yeah, government's usually known to pay top rate anyway.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Well, our certainly does.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Yeah, but you know there's more than that too, is
also working conditions and stuff like that. I'm not necessarily
opposed to unions. I see it kind of like, you know,
some people don't know how to represent themselves in the workplace.
It's like going to court. If you're going to court,
you represent yourself in a court of lawyer, we hire
an attorney right represent you. So I just kind of
see it like that. But sometimes unions come with abuses too,

(19:35):
when they drive work out of the country.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Well, I would say that unions in the modern history
have done more harm than good, and they drive people
away more often they should. Having been forced to become
a teamster, and full disclosure, I have very little use
for unions. The abusive conduct of the teamsters and what
little they delivered for me turned me against you. And
it's not that I was ever in favor of them.
There was a time we needed such organizations, for sure.

(19:58):
I mean, you know, Upton Sinclair wrote The Jungle, a
book about meat packing plants in Chicago and the use
of child labor and the herf conditions. They are unsafe, unsanitary.
There wasn't time and and unions can have a role
in blue collar work, but white collar employees should never
be in unions. It's just tithical to common sense and
I have a real problem with it, especially things like
aircraft controllers, law enforcement, fire and military.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Think about it is unions. Unions don't do what they
once did and they've gotten weak. One part is because
their constituents don't support them like they used to. That's
one issue in it. But the other issue is you
got things like the American Dollars a atf American Teachers
Federation or federation. And I mean, this woman's taking millions
and millions of dollars of a union dudes and use

(20:43):
them for political purpose, jet setting across the globe for
political reasons. She's not using the money for union business,
She's using it just for leftist political agenda.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Well that that's just one example of the team. Serious
have long been in the same situation. They're used for
purposes against their members will so this time they were
kind of quiet about it. But that's not the role
of the union. They shouldn't become involved in politics. They
should not be taking people. They should be there to
ensure safe working conditions. But we have OSHA for that.
But they're a backstop and they should be there to negotiate,

(21:14):
you know, good benefits and wages for people who are
part of their union.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
And here you go, holding call Field has a good
point here on your channel on YouTube. We'll get as
the union if pensions are wiped out, and you know,
people invest in their unions for pensions that they're going
to retire on, and they get about retiring engine This
just happened. What last year, I think with a major
trucking company that went out. It was a union trucking company.
When they went out, everybody lost everything. They were done.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, yeah there's that.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yeah, no, no, no, no chance of retiring a retirement
age if your pension is gone, and you know, you
can be a Walmart greeter at eighty years of age.
I suppose. I don't know. I don't know what you
do when you're eighty years old and you got to
work to live. It's incredibly stressful for somebody.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Did they still do Walmart readers?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
I mean, I know I haven't seen, but the last
time I've been to Walmart, I have not seen a
Walmart reader. I think they cut that out one with
the majority of their cashiers because now they deep everybody
into checking yourself out like a chump. You're doing somebody
else's job. Man.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Well, pretty soon we'll be picking up our mail from
central distribution center and carrying it home too.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Probably, I don't want it that bad. It's mostly builds
some junk.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, I hear you on that one. So Donald Trump
was not awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Arguably, the Nobel
Committee could argue that Trump really hadn't done anything to
warrant it. He was only present for a few days
before the Januar thirty first deadline, and that would be
the legitimate argument. But they've let their position be known.
When one of the members of the Mobile committee was interviewed,

(22:52):
he said, well, Trump hasn't done anything worthy of the
Nobel Prize. Well we know where they're coming from. So
that's the truth sentiment. So if he doesn't get it
next year, this is just banned the Nobel Prize. I mean,
it's just a scam. I mean they've given it to
one terrorist after another. It's ridiculous. But in meantime, Donald
Trump this week was awarded Israel's highest honor, the Israeli Award,
which has never been given to a non Israeli citizen,

(23:13):
and that was followed up with a visit Charmel Shak
where thirty nations gathered to discuss peace in the Middle East,
and a conference fostered by LCCI from Egypt and Donald Trump,
where Egypt gave Donald Trump its highest decoration ever awarded
an individual. And at that event, the Prime Minister of
Pakistan turned to Trump and said, this man deserves a nobel.

(23:34):
Give this man a nobel. It is embarrassing for the left,
Kiir Starmer standing in the background like a little schoolboy
begging for attention. And of course British politicians claiming that
Britain's role in recognized in the state of Palestine is
what led to peace. These people are shameful. They had
no role in this whatsoever. This peace agreement, whether it
last or not, was all Donald Trump, Gutter and Egypt,

(23:57):
nobody else. They had nothing to do with it. Steve
Viitkoff Suy's negotiating for Trump chair Chushier. But these lying, slimy,
smarmy politicians who have been in office throughout this war
did nothing to stop it. Now they want credit for it.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
So wait a minute, now, isn't there an organization within
the Mideast that involves like Qatar and Saudi Arabian, a
couple other nations where I think called GCC, But I
don't know. I don't know anything about it really, but
I've heard about it, and they may have actually been
some of the work behind us with Trump.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Well, you're talking about the Golf Coordination Council. Yes, I said,
Golf Coordination Council is a small group. Gutter is a
member of it, but Gutter was the lead effort on that.
They really put a lot of time and effort into this.
So and then we have extreme right wing lunatics in
this country freaking out because the Sector of War has
announced that Gutter will have a training facility on our

(24:47):
Mountain Home Air Base in Idaho, just below Boising Where
will they'll be training crews on F fifteen's. Well, they're
buying F fifteens from US. They need training on it.
The training package comes with that. Malaysia already has policy
freaking out, and we have right wing lunatics claiming that
the Gutties are having a military base in America. I'll
tell you what, there's some really dumb people out there, John,

(25:09):
and some of them were very big names.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
On the watching. Some people listening too, took a dislike
or discontent to the idea that they're going to have
the fifteen jets here with Qatar there.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
What do you mean have the fifteen jets here? Of
course they're gonna be here, we build them.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yeah. No, on the base in Idaho, you said, there's verythotox.
We're going the fact that the base is there, and
we're going to have a base in addition to that base.
Within that base, we're going to have a spot for
Qatar to train them on those that fifteen jets.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well, we have that base and in Texas we trained
Germans to fly jets at an air base. What's the problem.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
I don't know. I don't know that people. I mean,
some people don't like it because they feel like it's
a foreign entity and they I think they feel like
it's an occupation.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
All right, South Africa is a consulate in San Francisco.
Should that be removed? I mean, that's just not for you, John.
These are just silly people. I don't understand how the
world works. We have foreign military who come on our shores.
We send our military to foreign shores. It's a natural
way of life. If you don't like Gutter, fine, I
get it, but don't lie and claim that there's a

(26:17):
gutter ease. And that sounds bad. Katari and Guitari. That's
a Guitari military base of Mountain Home. That's nonsense. They
are paying to build a hangar where the F fifteens
their training will be there. The base belongs to Americans.
You must show your militarity car to get in. If
you're with Gutter, then their military car will be accepted
in order to enter the base. You will not find

(26:38):
Guitaris flying F fifteens to attack Canada from Mountain Home.
That isn't going to happen. They have to train somewhere,
and it's much better if we have control of it.
We're not going to go and send and spend millions
of dollars to send teams over to build something in
Gutter where our people are put over there in a
dangerous region to teach region, to teach them how to fly.
They learn back here where it's safe, and that's the

(26:59):
end of the story. I mean, it just shows you
how stupid some of these.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
People so here temporarily just to learn the equipment. They're
getting training Basically, they're purchasing, getting training, and then they're
gonna take their planes and flying back home.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Correct, that's how it works. Whether it'll probably buy more
or they'll leave a couple there for trainers and they'll
send more crews through to train. That's probably what happened.
I don't know what they bought. Let's say they bought
eighteen aircraft. They probably leave three here for training, and
then these people will rotate through. The next batch will
come through at some point, the next bash come through,
and then the rest will be taking the gutter. I mean,
it's just it's just it shows you how how easily

(27:32):
people are manipulated by the news, and how easy they're
manipulated by emotion.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Well, they people don't like that. They don't understand.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
They don't want to understand. John, Well, they're.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Just haven't been exposed to it, really. I mean, I
didn't realize that we were doing that sort of thing
when that When I first heard it, I thought the
same thing that they thought. And then when I started
reading a little deeper, I go, oh, this starts to
make a little bit more sense. It's not so sensitive now,
it's not like they're here nefuriously or or you know something.
They're just for training purpose, and so when I saw that,

(28:01):
I'm like, oh, okay, we're done with this. I get
it now.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
But a lot they're they're paying us billions of dollars
to buy these aircraft and for us to supervise the training.
We're getting a lot of money for this.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, yeah, I understand that.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
And it keeps jobs in places where Gero Dynamics builds
A fifteens.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
I think too. A lot of people saw Katars coming
from the Mideast and they didn't understand Quitar is actually
an ally. They're not.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
They are, but a lot of people still don't like
them as an ally, So I understand. But that's what
I think is driving this is the people that don't
like them as an ally are pissed off, so they're
trying to paint a picture to hoodwink the roobs that
just don't know better.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeah. Yeah, like we were saying earlier with the GCC,
they were actually working behind the scenes with all the
Spece deal and stuff like that. To my understanding, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Fully one percent that's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
So yeah, they're actually a valuable all life They helped
to negotiate this and bring this to terms and stuff.
You know, Trump led it, and but you know, people
don't understand. One man isn't moving everything. It takes a
great number of people to move things in the globe.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
There's a lot of parts in this. But Trump is
now the highest decoration of Israel, the highest decoration of Egypt.
How many people in history can say that, maybe Jimmy Carter.
I don't know that even in the case for him.
No can't be Jimmy Er. No one can say that.
No one can say to my knowledge that they've received
the highest honor of Egypt and Israel, because Israelis have
never worded to a non Israeli, so Carter's not was
not Israel, so he never got the Israeli award. So

(29:26):
Trump is the only person on the planet, to my knowledge,
who's received the highest civilian honor from both Israel and Egypt.
That is amazing in itself. Yet to know about committee
says he did nothing to warrant getting a Peace Prize.
There's just such frauds, total frauds. I mean, you can't
even take people like that seriously. And I've been saying
that ever since he gave yasa Era fat a peace prize.

(29:47):
He gave most notorious terrorists possible a peace prize. It's
a joke. It's a joke.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, you know, everything gets politicized anymore. I think, now,
what is this holding put in here? Are you surprised
China has police stations in the interior of the United States.
I've heard this before, that they have actually these illegal
police operations in like places like New York City and stuff.
Have you ever heard anything about this?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Oh? Absolutely, I'm very well of this. We're very well
aware of this. I was among those who exposed this
well over a year or almost two years ago, now
that the Chinese are running police operations in multiple countries
around the world to silence critics of their country who
are Chinese nationals, and to hunt them down and arrest them,
and you know it kidnapped them out of the country

(30:38):
if necessary, to prosecute them. It's uh, they're operating here
and nothing is being done about it. You know. We
have we have, we have we have Brandon Johnson's freaking
out over the National Guard coming to Chicago, but he
doesn't care about Chinese or running police operations there.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
So when we say police stations. It's not like a
badge and a uniform. It's been in suits basically in
a warehouse or something more. They're monitoring and svailing Chinese
members of society here in the United States. That's what
you're telling me.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yes, it's men. It suits, Uh, the men in black.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Hey, you got your racer thing, that's right.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, here look at this. No but no. Yeah. So
basically what it is is there's Chinese operatives, intelligence operators
as law enforcement operatives who have a building somewhere they've
rented and they run they run investigations and police operations
and surveillance on dissonance and people who say things about
China and they're not there's nothing to stop them from,

(31:37):
you know, kidnapping people. You know, it's easy to kidnap
people if you're rich and powerful. All you have to
do is have a plane on an airfield, a private plane,
and you just just stick somebody the back of it.
No one aspects that dame thing. You give them a
fake manifest and you give it to the tower and
you're in the air. Next stop China.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Yeah, so they wouldn't be just general US citizens. You're
talking about people from China that come from China or
just anybody.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Well, the information I've been able to uncover on this
over the past years or open source, is that it's
Chinese nationals are going after But once they illegally operate
police operations and spy operations your territory, what's to stop
if we're going after your citizens and become a thorn
in their side? Nothing, I mean we're tolerating this. I
mean we're tolerating all kinds of craft from China. It's
time that someone does something. Trump is doing some things,

(32:26):
but it needs to happen faster.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
He's not going to do it all four years.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
No we need no, of course not. We need other
countries to do it. But they're all complicit, the Chinese,
because they're all making money and so they don't care
what China does to the world. But China is in
really bad shape. They are desperate. That's why they're striking
out the world and trying to use protectionist measures and
threatening people with military force. Because China is on the
way down. It's no longer going to sending power. All

(32:51):
this BS talk about China overtaking America. It's economy to
be bigger than America by the year twenty ten, by
the year twenty fifteen, twenty twenty five, and still our
economy is well over thirty fourth tree in a year,
and they've just reached nineteen train. But the breaks are on.
They're slowing down, their population is declining, their cities are polluted,
their countryside is weak. They have no food, they rely

(33:14):
on food imports heavily, and they have no energy. They
have lots of energy, but not nearly enough for what
they need. And so China is in bad shape here.
And these are the dying, thrashing movements of a leviath
that is on the downward trend. I've been saying this
for several years, predicting what's going to happen, and now
it is happening, and I've been consistent on that, but
people don't want to hear it. China, China, China. I'm like, noep,

(33:35):
don't sleep over China unless you're worried about their espionage,
you're worried about their military threats. Other than that, China
will not be a threat. They are in trouble and
they were going to have to eventually kiss the ring
at some point, and we're approaching that stage.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Well they're losing the working population, aren't they.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Well, yeah, because of the stupid one child policy. China's
population at the current rate, even though they implemented a
two child policy, and now they're going for a three
child policy by twenty thirty. Even though they implement that,
they wait too long, it's too late. Chinese population about
one point four billion will be only six hundred and
thirty three million by the year twenty fifty or twenty
one hundred. Yeah, something like. Yeah, it's it's it's it's
it's going the other direction.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
So they've depopulated quite well because they weren't like out
the world's population at one time. And I think India
took that over. Well, that would be the most populated
country and yeah they yeah, they were the largest. And
but yeah, they're downsizing rapidly apparently.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Well I'm we call it downsize and they're a shrinking
and they're shrinking faster in Japan. Here's the other thing.
By I think it's twenty fifty, something like thirty eight
percent of the population or forty percent of the population
be over the age of sixty in China. Those people
aren't working in factories, those people aren't producing those people
are consuming for the most part. There are exceptions, but
when you have that many people at that age, you

(34:50):
have a pyramid population, a population pyramid that's in trouble.
You need lots of young people to enter the workforce
and to produce goods and services and to pay taxes
in order to support a population. And that's a problem
of the world. One exception of developer of the United States,
where our population is increasing, but mostly because of in
migration and illegal migration.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
So yep, uh huh.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
China, China, China.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
So how about that Letitia James, Oh, she's a hotty.
She got caught, she got caught harboring a fugitive in
her house in Virginia.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
The one the one that's her her secondary residence. It's
actually a rental property. She never lived in it. And
she's committed mortgage fraud that one.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Yeah, and then now not to come to find out
she was housing her grand niece who's wanted in North Carolina.
And it's misdemeanor charges. It's not a big deal. It's
not like this is a big felonist or something. But uh,
you know, it's just not something that North Carolina stated.
But it's nothing to extradite her for. We're not going
to extradite her because it's a mistermeanor crime. But at
the same time, she's an attorney general in the state

(35:57):
of New York harboning a fugitive at her home that
is in question because of her mortgage fraud. This is
better and better, I guess.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I mean, you know, if there's an outstanding warren for
the woman, she would be reffused it. But I mean
I wouldn't be. That's not something but rises my attention.
What rises my attention is that she lied, she committed
fraud on the banks, and someone suffered. She got a
conviction for Donald Trump for a crime that does not exist,
claiming that someone was harmed, and then a three and
fifty five million dollar judgment against him, which is being

(36:26):
appealed because successive and she actually hurt someone. Nobody was
hurt by Donald Trump. The Trump Organization they borrow money
from Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank did not preclude another loan
from being made. As a consequence, Deutsche Bank agreed to
what the value the assets were. The Trump organization made
the loan, paid the loan off on time, and Deutsche
Bank made money, and they said that we welcome and

(36:48):
love to have the Trump organization as a client. The're
among their best clients we have. So who was harmed?
If someone had been prevented from getting alone, you could
say that party, But there's no one to give them
money too. It's just stealing from the Trump organization by
giving this judgment, because no one being made hoole by
the judgment. The purpose of a judgment in civil cases
to make the other party hole. There's no part of that.
He's made hole because no one's been harmed, not even
the state has been harmed. This is just fraudsruent. She

(37:09):
actually harmed other people. She got a loan that someone
else wouldn't get because she lied and got a lower
interest rate and saved twenty thousand dollars and then readed
the property out in a scam because it's not supposed
to be a rental property. Its supposed to be your residence.
So she actually did you know the Democrats do this
all the time. Everything The accused Trump of a eur racist, Well,
look in the mirror, because that's what you are. Oh

(37:31):
you're you're a convicted felon. No, you're the felons and
the convictions are coming. So just hold on your hat.
You know, it's it's pathetic. She did exactly the actual
crime that she had Trump charged with that he never committed.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
The New York house wasn't there wasn't her that had
the house in New York City or something. It was
like five or six unit apartment. She claimed it was
a four and she was married to her father just
to get.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
The Loanlisa James, I don't know about that.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
I remember something about it. We'll just call that a spectative.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Well, if that, if that's true, that just shows a
pattern of criminal conduct. Yeah, not just not just all all.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
This is this is the level of corruption.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
And the left, the left tries to dismiss it. John Oh,
do you really think the Attorney general in New York
would commit fraud for six hundred dollars a month? Yes,
because she did. Yeah, it's twenty thousand.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
She's been indicted, but she hasn't been uh found guilty
of it yet. We'll go with allegedly on it.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
But I have seen the indictments, they have the paperwork.
There's no allegedly to it. You could say that immediately,
but the reality is that she's been charged with it.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
This is WSMN here, we got to protect her integrity
of WSMN.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Now they've views and opinions of the host of this
program do not necessarily reflect those of WSMN that stated upfront.
So okay, they'll be okay.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
All right, Yeah, you got a good point. There was
a disclaimer.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
And if la Tiia James has time to come after me,
then she's really desperate for attention.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
She's not going after anybody at the moment, her her
butts in a sling. I'm surprised she even has a
job in New York.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Well, I mean, she shouldn't have job. She's a total fraud.
She ran on one issue, will get Trump, which she
did without even him breaking the law. It's it's it's pathetic,
beyond belief. It's look, this is you know, it's it's
funny to listen to this to the day of the
triumph that the guys of war ends after Biden did
nothing but fuel war, after nobody in the West did anything.

(39:21):
That Donald Trump comes in and he gets he gets
this same end. And on the day that everyone should
be celebrating, what are the Democrats doing getting behind the camera,
going Barack about it. Well, the guy who followed me
in office has done everything opposite me. It's atithical to me,
and it's a threat to democracy. What are you talking about.
He lost an election, supposedly, and he laughed peacefully. He

(39:42):
won election. He's back. Get over yourself, Brock, you know,
good lord. And then they're all like this, all these
Democrats trying to talk about things that are not your Maine.
They're irrelevant to what's going on here. Well, they should
be talking about this, this huge victory. John Fetterman had
the courtesy in the and the and the good moral
sense to say the right thing. Bill and Hill Clinton
congratulated Donald Trump. Shocker there, but Joe, even Joe Biden

(40:04):
had But but Joe Biden, of course trying to take
credit for it. Well, it was all possibly because all
the work that we did, No, no, no, no, the work
you did was useless. Trump started from scratch, and look
where he got in just a few months. So I
find it particularly obnoxious and annoying that the left turns
their attention to things that are non sequiturs instead of
focusing on the real thing here. The real thing here

(40:26):
is Trump. And yet ended yet another word. Now, it
may not last, but that's not the point. No one
could stop the guns. Trump stopped the guns after two years.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Yeah, well, that's why the left is falling apart because
they're they're doing just that. They're they're making claims and
they're they're diverting all the time, and when real things
are happening and we're seeing real things happens, with real
successes with Trump, and they're just acting like it never happened.
That's like you were talking about Barack Obama sitting or
acknowledging this piece still that was just brought and between

(40:58):
Israel and Moss, and he never mentioned Trump. He's like, oh,
that's a really good thing. Like it wasn't Trump, it was,
so he acknowledges it, but he doesn't want to acknowledge
Trump in it.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
No, they don't want to give Trump credit for any
of this stuff. And then and then when he does
accomplish things, they tried to act like it didn't happen. Well,
Trump negotiates peace, but the piece in the Congo is fragile.
The armies are ready to get each other's throat. Well,
armies at each other's throat all the time. Across the
border between Pakistaninia for seventy years, they've been to each
other's throats. That's just a stupid thing. Look, I even
said this in my commentary. I'm on a video that

(41:30):
I did when this degree was done on the day
it happened, a couple of days ago, and I said, look,
Trump has accomplished amazing things are in short order. Now.
There's no guarantee that this piece agreement will hold in Goza,
nor the one in the Congo will hold. It may
very well break, but no one in thirty years has
been able to end the conflict even for a day
in the Congo. And Trump ended a couple months ago
and it still ended for the moment. So whatever the

(41:53):
case is, quick quibbling and nitpicky about things that haven't
happened with supposition. They use supposition to merch Trump. How
about the smirching in with things that he actually did wrong,
not things that haven't happened. They live in a fantasy world,
cancoc through their own tiny little pea brains. I think
that if we went to the frozen food section of
our local supermarket and got a bag of frozen bird's

(42:15):
eye peas, we would find that those represent the intellectual
capacity in the cranium individually of many members of Congress
and of our government. In fact, you said, look, here's
a p Aoc, here's a p raushieta tie, here's a
P Jazzy Crockett. And you know that's their entire intellectual
capacity in a bird's eye bag of frozen peas well.

(42:39):
That's a free advertising for birds eye. I don't eat
their stuff. I eat dumb money.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Your democrat brains in a bag, folks, birds eye.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
It's the bag. There you go. It's democrat based, democratic
brains in a bag. And you know what, We're gonna
have a hashtag for that hashtag. Go to Gaza. They
love it so much. Go to Gaza.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
So it seems to me that the longest piece a
period of peace or time of peace for Israel was
between eighty was seventy nine and eighty six. I think
was probably the longest period. But it seems like is
that true.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Didn't they evade eleven in eighty two? Don't they invaded
eleven in eighty two?

Speaker 4 (43:15):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I think they did. I think they did.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
When it is what, I think, you're right, because there
was I think it was Lebanon was shooting rockets across
over them, right, and then they went and evaded them. Yep, crap.
So that shut that out. My point was going to
be that was the only time we've had any real
peace there. It seems to me every sixth I mean
maybe six months is a long time for peace over

(43:40):
there for Israel. I mean, these people live under cannon
fire all day, every day for pretty much their whole lives.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
It was nineteen eighty two, all.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Right, so there was a period of time. It's been
a couple of years. Was probably the one period of
time that they've actually had some peace. And but all
I know. My point is, like I said to Billy Night,
he says, okay, so we got peace in Israel. I'm like, well,
that should be good for two weeks.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Well yeah, I mean, honestly, think about it.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Yeah, that's the that's the problem with this is is
and it might not be Hamas this time. It could
be Lebanon, it could be the who Theies, it could
be anybody. It could be Iran anymore. You never know
who's going to attack Israel. It's like a crap shoot,
or they might just do it all at once.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
No you're right, but you know, at the bottom line
with all this is that whatever the outcome, there's peaced out.
But look, but look what Hamas has done before the
ink was even dry, before these Raelies had even completely
pulled out, they began attacking other Palestinians and they rounded
at Palestinians, torturing them and executing them at public public executions.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Trump has worn them these were anti Hamas agents there
that you know, there are families or clans of people
that didn't like a Moss and wanted to be in power.
So now they just executed them.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Well yeah, And my point is that people we'll talking
about Israel being bad invading for us, how many people
are probably alive to it because Israel was there to
prevent Hamas from murdering them during the occupation.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
But that's the mentality of these people. You know, we
let some of these people into our country, believe it
or not. We keep open borders, and they're flowing across
the borders like it's no big deal. They're living among us. Now.
These people don't mind putting other people down, They don't
bad deny about it. We want to know why people
are being rap We've seen in Europe a time and
time again where these women were being raped and killed

(45:30):
and tortured and all sorts of stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
No. Absolutely, But the point here is when you talk
about what we love them in our country. Yeah, And
a perfect example of that is Rashida t Leave. Rashida
Tleave was born in this country. Why because we let
her parents come into this country. We gave them sucker.
She was born a working class Palestine immigrancy Detroit who
came here and she was born in nineteen seventy six.
And this evil spawn has no regard for this country,

(45:57):
hates Christians, hates men, hates white men, hates Trump. Ran
only on the idea that she would help impeach Trump,
and she got elected. And here's the scary thing. The
district that she represents is forty percent Hispanic, twenty five
percent Black, thirty percent non Hispanic white Americans, and only
two percent of Arabs. So it's not Arabs who are

(46:18):
responsible for the vile, repulsive America hating Rasheta Talib. It's
white folks, Hispanics and blacks who put her in office.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
Yep, yeah happens. Man. I mean, uh, I can't believe
the number of people that supported Barack Obama when he
was going enough, I'm like, wh don't you see this guy?
Don't you see what he's made of.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I listened to what Barack Obama said, and he said
on his campaign I want to fundamentally change America. And
I heard him and I said, nope, nope, nope, nope,
And well, people didn't listen. And the funny thing is,
you know, they keep telling America being racist, but who
do they think voted for Barack Obama? Only eleven percent
of the voters are actually black. They didn't elect him.
White folks elected him. And then when they didn't vote

(46:59):
for him after saint what a useless, feckless piece of
human theces he is, they didn't vote for him for reelection,
Suddenly white people are racist because six million people didn't
vote from a second time who were white. These people
are just shameless. Now people aren't racist. Barack Obama's just
to charlottean And we've known it all along, some of us.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
I've asked a lot of people after Obama was reelected, why,
after you saw what he was after four years, why
did you re elect him? He goes, well, what choices
did you give me? It was Obama or Romney know
at that time was second time. Yeah, sorry, yeah, and
so yeah, the response was Romney's a courtbord man. At
least I know what I got with Obama.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Well my response is at Doorknob would be better. So
whoever the other guy is.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
Yeah, I was kind of hoping for Romney and I'm
not a big fan of Romney.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
No, I can't stand Roney. I never liked him. I
thought I was shocked that he was the candidate for president.
That was beyond comprehension. McKay made sense, Not that I
liked it, but it made sense how he rose to
that level. But Romney is still shaking my head.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Well, there's a school of thought running around that corporations
are running this country, and they played full sids of
the aisle, and sometimes you get these choices of bad
or bad or bad or just a little bit better,
you know.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Well, I mean there's lots of schools of thoughts. Several
years ago, someone claimed that Elon Musk said that we
don't really exist. We're all just a virtual game being
played by aliens in another galaxy.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
Did he really?

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Because I never heard that it was not a big
bank theory.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Oh theory, Okay, now it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah anyway. But I mean, look, there's there's there's you know,
ideas and complaints and conspiracy theories like backsides. Everybody's got one.
So who knows the merit took. But uh, Trump has
warned AMAS, you know, after executing people, and AMAS said, uh,
if they don't disarm, we will disarm them. It will
happen quickly and perhaps violently, but they will disarm. Wow.

(48:52):
He says, it comes down to forest if I don't
have to explain it to you, but if they don't disarm,
we will disarm them. They know I'm not playing games
o Trump.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
No, I think he's really reached his boiling point. And
I think that's what it's with Russia right now. Russia
has been reluctant to come to the table, and I
think he's pretty much looked at Putin and he's like,
you know what, we might just deliver some tomahawks. In fact,
he's supposed to meet Zelenski here with the next couple
of days, I believe, and he's he's just put it
out there. He didn't promise anything, kind of put it
out there like nudge a little big one. It's possible

(49:25):
Tomahawks may be coming that way, and that's kind of
a big deal to say that delivering tomahawks.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Would that be for the Washington Redskins, I mean football team.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
I don't know about that. I think I saw them
playing the Eagles here recently, and what did they have?
No big w on the side of their helmets.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
And big loser this side of their helmet instead of
having the iconic image of a proud Native American.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Did you see that the Pentagon press pool picked up
steaks and left. Yes, after turning in their press creditionals,
journalists covering the Defense Department walked out rather than comply
with its restrictive new policies. They all took their toys
and went home. CBS News disbandled his private little studio.
Their excuse me, and they're just like a bunch of
children throwing their toys out of the prem They didn't

(50:15):
like the rules, so they left, So me throw my
hat in the ring for the Department of War press room.
I would like a press pass. I'm a real journalist,
not a cry baby who doesn't get their way, and
I will comply. These idiots think that it's perfect and
prompt for them and wander around aimlessly in the Pentagon
when they're not employees of the Pentagon. No, when they
don't have security clearance. No, they can just wander and
ask anybody any question anytime. No, there's national security issues here.

(50:38):
They don't like that. So they're taking their toys. They're
throwing me out of the pram. Good riddance. I'll be
happy to sign up.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Wow. I don't even think you go to somebody's place
of business and do that, do you. I mean, you
don't just walk into somebody's place of business. I'm wandering
around asking questions and stuff. You contact their media representative
for public relations, reppers, you talked to that person.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Well, you would think, But today's journalists behave as if
they work for the National Inquirer circa nineteen seventy six,
as if they should be on the checkout counter, the
rubbish right there back then. So the thing is it's
not just that. I mean, you go to the family
that went to Idaho, the South Africa refugees, they went
to the refgee center and they were told to get

(51:22):
out because it's private business. They're identifying refugees whose family
could be at risk in Sudan, or in Iraq, or
Afghanistan or in this case, South Africa. But the irresponsible
behavior of the New York Times. The New York Times
who went there, they're journalists, And when she was kicked out,
she sat outside and filmed outside the refugee resettlement agency.

(51:45):
But she's on a public street, so they really couldn't
do anything. But the police were called later on because
that journalist followed the van that gives refugee's rides back
to their residences, because they come in there for cultural orientation,
if for training, and for help with things, for medical
and so screed all sorts stuff so that the center
helps them. Lots of people and I've been through there.
I've seen the pictures the kids hang up, the drawings

(52:06):
from Sudana, kids from Sudan and from Afghanistan and from
all over the world. Anyway, they followed this van home,
and of course the only refue who happened to be
white was the South African. So when the lady got
out of her car at home, the van had been followed.
Now they knew where the South Africans lived, so she
camped out there and then walked up and down the street.
And then she came over and she knocked on the

(52:28):
door and wanted to talk to the husband. The husband said, no,
I'm not talking to reporters. Thank you leave. So she
waited a bit and then she went over, knocked on
the neighbor who happened to be from Sudan, a previous
refue who had arrived and was in a duplex with him,
and talked to the Sudanese refugee. And then the wife
was in the back as they were in the backyard,
and she was back there and and the journalist saw

(52:49):
her with the fence and called her and asked a question,
to start asking your questions, never identifying yourself as a journalist,
And so the New York Times journalists is a listening
information and being dishonest and disingenuous. When my wife finally
realized this must be journalist, it says, are you from
the media? She is from New York Times, says I
might answer your questions. Go. So then she left and
went back on the street, walk up and down the street,
disturbing neighbors wanting who is this walking up and down

(53:10):
the street. She approached their twelve year old daughter, who
was outside playing in the front yard and started asking
her personal questions about their status, who they were, about
the refugees, and the girl ran into the house and said, Mom,
this woman's asked me questions. Came out and told her
to leave. She didn't leave. Finally, somebody called the police

(53:30):
for stalking, and before the police arrived she departed. That's
not journalism, and that's that's what these people are like.
There's little children that don't understand the rules of journalism
and they abuse it and behave people and that's shocking.
In the next hour, we'll talk about other things.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
You got other things to talk about, Oh.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Always, there's lots of stuff to talk about here. Candice
Owens lost her lawsuit to get into Australia, Zoah and Mom,
Donnie in his nonsense, Islamization of the New York City,
trying to bring back stupid programs to harm students, and
so much more to talk about in the second hour,
including King County, Seattle hiring illegal aliens to be corrections officers. Oh,

(54:12):
you can't make this stuff up, man. These people they
have no shame. They're hiring illegal aliens to be correction
officers over prisoners. In the King County jail.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yep, that's the reality out there, and there's many other
things to talk about here. So I don't know if
you had any topics you want to get to in
the second half, John, but if you do, we'll see
him up here in the second half and see how
it goes.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
We'll find something absolutely I know, La County declares emergency
over ice. Hopefully Todd will be in and we'll get
to hear from Todd a little bit too about what
is going on. So, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to
take a break while the top of the hour news
coming at you. Stick around, listen to the news, and
join us on the second hour.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Gate City Monuments Memorial distinction for people who care. I'm
telling you, John gonna meet Roger one day.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
I should go down there and take a picture of
Gate City Monument so I can put it on the
screen right here while it's playing.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Look, folks, I'm not being physicious. That's a really nicely
done commercial. And I don't live in the national area,
but if you're looking for that, that's probably a great
service to go check out. Yeah no, but I just
love that that's always the last one coming back we
get into our second hour. Sometimes in the first hour,
it's always I just think, pleasure to listen to that
Gate City Monument advert. So John, we're back for the

(55:49):
second hour.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
What's going on, man, Yeah, we are. I see Courtney
McBride joined us. So it says that she's listening from
Salt Lake City. Oh he I'm sorry, Courtney, so sorry.
I associate the name Courtney with females as a rule.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
But that's okay. That's why I collected he real quick there.
Courtney is a Navy reservist based in Salt Lake City.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
Oh nice, Well, thank you, Courtney.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
And I was just out to see Courtney just a
few weeks ago when I went out to West and
gave me a wonderful tour of Salt Lake. I've been
to Salt Lake City previously on a few occasions, but
it's always nice to have a local. And he's a
relocated local. He lived out on the Left Coast and
lost his mind for a few decades and hest a
drank from the Fountain of Youth there with punstant Leon
never found. And he's back and he's happy. He's he's

(56:37):
living his best life ever and living in Salt Lake City.
It's lovely out there, So congratulations. He has a big
event coming up this weekend and we wish him the
very best.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
So let's see Christy. LA County declares the emergency over
ice raids. The county Board of Supervisors declared a local
state of emergency Tuesday in response to ongoing federal immigration
enforcement rates, alleging the actions are preventing people from going
to work and forcing some businesses to close. The Los
Angeles Tennants Union Advocacy Group has been pushing the board

(57:07):
for weeks to enact such a moratorium, saying that the
raids are creating enough fear to prevent people from going
to work or prompting businesses to temporary close, leaving their
employees unable to work.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
So I don't understand what all the anchor is about.
I mean, you know, if they don't like ice, they
should get slushies, you know.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
A yeah, you know. I don't know what to tell you. You're
hiring illegal people. I don't know what to tell you.
If you can't find anybody legal to work, then you're
gonna have to work at getting them legalized to be
within the United States of America. But the federal government
has a right to enforce the laws. In fact, the
President of the United States is the executor of law,

(57:46):
meaning he executes the law. And that's exactly what Donald
Trump is doing. What's the problem?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Under the US Constitution, the chief law enforcement officer of
the nation is not the Attorney General, but rather the
President of the United States. Yes, issues, did you see
that there's a plot to assassinate conservative commentator Bennie Johnson. No,
that's crazy. George Isabelle Junior has been arrested and accused

(58:15):
of threatening to make orphans of Johnson's children only days
after the Charlie Kirk assassination. And this is just being
exposed now. Benny's well known media personality caring message very
similar to Charlie's, grounded largely in faith in the love
of country. Just days after charles assassination, Benny received a
letter at his home where he and Kate are raising
their beautiful young family. According to Attorney General Pam Bondi,

(58:36):
the author letter made it very clear that he hated
Benny because of Hughes and he wanted Benny dead. This
was a coward hiding mighty keyboard who thought he could
get away with this. Well, no, you're not going to
get away with threatening people in this way, Bonnie said,
adding that Isabelle is being charged federally with mailing threatening
communications and Benny Johnson isn't taking line down either. He
said to the parents out there, this is a movement

(58:57):
that about ensuring that you can raise your kids in
safety and secure, whether it's from terroristic threatening of left
wing violence, which happened to me specifically in name of
the when this individual George isabel said that he would
blow my head off in an open field just like
Charlie Kirk can watch my blood spatter on the concrete,
or whether it's from terroristic threatening from homicidal criminals who
get let out of jail time and again to scare
you and your children out of the parks and off

(59:17):
the streets. Wow, this is crazy stuff, man. There's some
nut jobs out there, and then they be get away
with it for years, john because no one took action.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Well, last year I think we were talking about all
the swatting going on against influencers on social media, Twitter
and stuff like that. Well no X now, yeah, but
they were being swatted and it was getting to be
a real problem. Now they transitioned from swatting X users
or influencers or people just generally talking that's got a
great following, talking about conservative issues or policies, and now

(59:53):
they would transition from that to actually murdering somebody that's
like say Charlie Kirk or you know, hype more or
high profile people.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Well, I mean, look, the thing is is that if
you were going to target someone, not that it's ever
accepting what you think. You target someone that's actually that
presents a threat or calls for violence or disparages people.
That wasn't Charlie Kirk. He was all about dialogue and
you know, prove me wrong, that's what he said. And
most people couldn't proven wrong, and that's you know, this
is this is seriously their intellectual capacity. They attack him

(01:00:25):
because they can't prove them wrong. And it's really really sad.
But it's the world we live in and it's full
of dangerous people, and a lot of people don't admit that.
They want to pretend it's a real until something bad
happens and then they're all like, well it's someone else's fault.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
Well, the objective of doing such things is to try
to silent, like people like you and I where we've
become fearful to come out here and publicly speak. It's
not working. Man, I'm sitting I feel like a fish
in a fishbowl here. I'm in the turret of the
Masonic building. You know, it's like I got windows all
around me. But I'm going to continue to talk until
something happens. I'm not saying that I'm upsetting anybody or

(01:00:58):
I'm that big of a deal. I don't expect I am.
But you know, when this starts happening, that's the objective,
is that we would feel conspicuous and no longer want
to speak.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Well. I mean, that's what a lot of this is.
They want the rest of us silent because they don't
like our views. And that's not what America is about.
You know. Protective speech is the speech we don't like.
You know, Silencing people don't like is not the answer,
and murdering people's never the answer. Speaking of silencing people
and possibly murdering who knows, President Trump has made the
unusual step of telling the public that he is authorizing

(01:01:33):
covert operations into Venezuela on land, not simply blowing narco
boats out of the sea. That's interesting. I mean, why
the president would do that. The only one reason for
it is to send a message to Venezuela because the
CIA agents are not going to be helped by the
fact that everybody thinks every white person in Venezuela is
a CIA agent.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Oh man, Oh that's yeah, that's bad. But I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
They're looking every gringo and say, ah, spy.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
He's the one president and that took the drug war. Seriously,
he's the one president says, you know, drugs are ruined
in the United States of America. We're gonna start putting
an into it. And he's used aggression to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
You know the things about Trump. He's not prone to violence.
He doesn't like violence, he doesn't enjoy violence. But he
will step up when need be.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
John people think that they left of losing their mind
now because Trump is blowing up Narco boats in the
Mediterranean and in the Caribbean. Wait until we start shooting
their planes out of the sky. Think about that one
that hasn't happened yet, that's coming, it's coming. Why do
we start shooting down planes? Man, they're going to really
lose their mind then.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
But yeah, no, that's you know, and that's why I've
always been a favorite of closing the wars. I don't
like the idea of a board of wall. To me,
it's kind of uh, it's just seems distasteful. But if
there's a need, there's an absolute and total need. We've
got to stop the drug trades. We've got to stop
the mewling. And the border wall was effective or still
is effective, because it's not just a big hunks of

(01:02:59):
metal up in the that prevent that build a wall
or a fence, but we also have sensors, motion sensors
and things that alert border patrol that there's activity going
on in case somebody does penetrate. So the whole thing
is very effective and it's beneficial to us because a
lot of people don't understand. These drug dealers get kids
to appeal to fifth graders. We're forcibly sending our kids

(01:03:21):
to school. We're told we have to send our kids
to school, and they're trying to capture them as young
as fifth grade to get them hooked on drugs. Now,
these will be clients for life, and so we got
to stop this sort of nonsense. We can't subject our
kids to this. We can't allow our kids to be
victims to this. We can't allow our kids to be
victims to human trafficking. We got to do something to

(01:03:41):
stop drug cartels from infiltrating our country. And it goes deep.
There are politicians. There's been no cases that We've had
a guest on the show that talked about Eddie Smith,
and he talked about politicians where he learned, believe he
was in prison, that politicians are being bought by drug
cartels and controlled. We've seen videos of a judge that

(01:04:03):
was operating with drug cartels. They were staying in his home.
They were shooting guns, you know, fully automatic firearms, you know,
machine guns in his backyard out in the desert. You know.
So it's bad, and it takes somebody like Trump that's
got the cahunies to stand up and say no, enough
is enough in America is going to do something to
change this. We're going to stop this now because we're

(01:04:25):
better than that. It's time to be better than that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Well, Trump confirmed this when asked the question by a reporter,
which surprised me. But the reason the confirmative is because
imagine this. The New York Times reported the classified directive
once again. The New York Times is stealing classified information and
reporting to the public, jeopardizing national security. YEP and the
Strategy says that Trump is offered fifty million for information

(01:04:49):
leading to Maduro's arrests and conviction of drug trafficking charges.
Trump said he authorized Actually large amounts of rugs were
in the United States from Venezuela. So I guess we'll
see how effective this is, blowing up boats and then
doing operations out Venezuela. Because if he is effective, the
street price for these drugs will begin to soar.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, that I price him right out, so
people can't afford it anymore. I mean, you know, it's
either you can't you you you get your fix, or
you get help. It's time to go get help. I
know a lot of people around here where I live
that that got the help. You know, it's not easy.
I know it's not easy. Addiction stinks. I've actually taken
pain killers that were prescribed and just one pill one time,

(01:05:30):
and the next day I kept thinking about that pill.
I chuged, I chug I chucked those. The rest of those, man,
there's only eleven pills left, but I chucked them. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,
we're not playing games with this stuff. So I understand
it is how to the addictive. You know, you take
one pill and that's all you can think about it.
The next day or the last time I had surgery
and I woke up my walk, I'm like, wow, I
should have surgery more often. That was like the best
sleep I ever have. It took me about two years

(01:05:52):
to realize the reason why it felt so good is
because it put me full of pain killers. Like that
pain when I woke up there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
You go, No, I remember that I have of staff infection.
When I was in Liberia, it was it was a
lot of pain suffering, and they gave me synthetic coding,
and coding is not nearly as bad as opioids out there.
But I took one synthetic coding pill and felt really good.
And that was the last one I took. Yeah, no, no,
I that's that's not that's not normal. And so that's it.

(01:06:21):
I know it's prescribed and I'm done. I'm done. Yep.
Never took it again. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
I hope and pray people get cleaned up that need
the help. I hope they get the help because it's
worth it. It's not easy, but it's worth it. Get
it done. A lot of people turn their lives around
and prove their lives, improve their situations and live good
lives now because they did. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
No, but drugs. We'll see if if Trump's effort is
successful because I said this, As I said, the street
price for these things begin to climb rather quickly if
the supply is cut off. You know, they think cutting
supply offs the answer that that definitely is an answer,
But the demand is a real problem. People how do
they turn these things? I mean, it's not easy to explain.
Lots of reasons for it, but the easy solutions get

(01:07:04):
off of. But the news tonight is that Trump has
authorized the CI eight do operations inside Venezuela, which will
not make Maduro happy. I guarantee you that much.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
I'm surprised that's open news. I can't oh, no, use
that was released.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Yeah, the New York Times released class information once again,
irresponsible so called journalism, and Trump confirmed it. So I mean,
the cat was at the back, so Trump really didn't
have a choice. But yeah, yeah, and now the Supreme
Court is finally finally taking a look at the voting
rights actor of nineteen sixty five, which is racist, and
of course that's going to hurt a lot of people's
feelings when I say it's racist, but it is racist.

(01:07:38):
It forces the government to jerry mander to create fictional
majority black districts on the idiotic assumption that black people
will vote for black people. They just reduce people to
their skin color, and it's morally wrong. It disenfranchisizes the
majority of the population, and we see a wildly overrepresentative
number of black members of Congress the consequence of it,

(01:08:01):
particularly in the Democratic Party in the House.

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
I always remember, folks, government is never the solution. So
I see Chris is typing over there. So something I
pulled up here recently Chris was Alex Jones was declined
his appeal of roughly one point four billion dollars defamation
judgment he Owes for false acclaiming the Sandy Hook Elamaris

(01:08:26):
Scooting Shools school shooting was a hoax. I can't believe
that Guy Owes one point four billion dollars because he
said it was a hoax. I mean, don't you have
freedom of speech anymore in this country? You can't speak
your piece or your opinions. I mean was that not
the same sort of lawfaer they pulled on Donald Trump?
I mean, because that was one point four billion dollars
sounds like an excessive amount of money to be penalized.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Yeah, it's it's just insane. First off, the whole case
is luted, Chris to be you. So people are suing
a social media commentator because he said it happened didn't happen? Yeah,
what does that do with the price tya in China?
Why are you even worried about that? This is just
this is opportunism and it's an effort to silence Alex Jones.
I'm not a fan. Don't find them all the interesting.

(01:09:10):
His glovely voice really gets got old after about thirty
seconds of listening to it. But you know, this is
something never it's a miscarriage of justice. If he did
something wrong, a few million dollars might be appropriate, but
one point four billion. The intent here is to destroy
info wars, and that's what's happening. That's what they've achieved here.
So Alex Jones, tough break. But I don't know why

(01:09:32):
he kept harping about it was it was fictitious and
where where that came from? If anything. The guy needs
mental help. I've been thinking he wasn't real. So I
don't the whole genesis this case, all execution of it
is this. The whole thing is suspicious for me.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
There's there's a theory that they move around these uh
what they call them disaster actors or whatever, they are
grief grief actors, and that there are a lot of
people have been pointing to get pointed out saying, wait
a minute, we saw this guy crying. It was their
daughter over here. I saw this guy crying it was
their daughter over there, and it's the same guy. And
so they think they have these griefactors running around every

(01:10:06):
time there's there's a tragedy like this. So people started
thinking it was a hoax. And so that's basically I think.
I don't follow why works Jones. But what I'm putting
together here is I think he was looking at it
going it was a hoax in that regard that they
were fooling people with these grief factors. And I think
he got taken out of proportion and stuff and some

(01:10:26):
dad or something got upset and seize them for one
point for billion dollars. I think it was more class
action but just the same. That's excessive.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
It is beyondest that's because what damages who in the
world had one point for it Bayon inflicted against him.
It's just ludicrous. Yeah, so they rejected his appeal and
uh yeah, the NFL War's House argued that the judge
was wrong to find him liable for defamation infliction of
the most stress without holding a trial on the merits
of allegations lodged by relatives of the sixth victims of
the shooting. Yep, the justice did not come in order,

(01:10:58):
which they issue without even asking family Sandy Hook to respond.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
So anyway, Yeah, they were trying to take away his business.
I think they wanted to confiscate his business and liquidated
out for some of the settlement, which isn't anywhere near
worth one point four billion dollars by any means, not
even a small portion of it, maybe a couple of million,
a few million dollars or something. He's got notoriety. I
don't know if he can start another business or not,

(01:11:23):
or if they just take that away from him too, or well.
I think, uh, I don't know if I'm going to
pronounce his name right and I C C. I McCormick. Nicky,
it's Nicky her name, all right, But yeah, she says,
not destroy him for worst take over it capturing successful
media companies. Yeah, that's that's what it's about. Shut him down.
You know. Alex Jones has been known to speak truth,

(01:11:46):
but he's also been known to have been caught off
guard where he said things that wouldn't turn out to
be Like he had bad uh informants, so bad sources. Yeah,
and I know that because he was a regular round
Coast to Coast AM, which I listened too frequently back
in the day. So that's where I know Alex Jones from.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
And he used to get Alex Jones was on Coast
to Coast.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
As a guest, so he would call it in as
a guest or something, or he would call in and
give reports or whatever. They'd have him come in and
you're like, oh, yeah, yes, let me let me, let
me cut you up on what's going on over here,
you know, and he would talk about things, elaborate on things,
and give a quick rundown and be gone, you know,
fifteen twenty minutes sometimes or sometimes he was there for
quite some time. But yeah, so well, yeah, one time

(01:12:29):
he got called out, you know, because it was our Bell.
Our bell is not going to be us around if
you did wrong, you did wrong, like goes well, yeah, yeah,
it was a bad inform. You know, I can't sometimes,
you know, his information just doesn't come in. So he said,
but I didn't make your correction. I did make the correction,
so you know, and so you know, it happens, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
But well, for me, I I vaguely remember art Bell
from back in the day. But for me, the name
that resonated most when I was listening to Coast to
Coast late at night traveling around the country was George
norri and then briefly it was also John B. Wells.
John B.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Wells was a guest host many times for Our Bell,
as was I can't think of her name now she's
out Philadelphia. She was great guest host. I really liked
her a lot, and and apparently not too much because
I can't think of her name. And Rollie James Bally
James I was on there, and so he had quite
a few of them, and George norriy was too, and

(01:13:21):
so when Our Bell was giving it up, he had
quite a few people to pick for him to take
it over and he settled on George Norri. He gave
it was one person was going to take it over,
and then our Bell came back and then ultimately George
Norri won it or was awarded the show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Well, George Nory always kept my attention, I mean to me,
I mean, honestly, a lot of its just outrageously outlandish.
You know, it's it's entertained. But for me, it was
entertainment and I enjoyed it. So but George Norri was
a fantastic listening to that person, I really really enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
But I got it. I gotta tell you. When our
Bell was doing it, he's to refer to it ladies
and gentlemen. This is the cutting edge of news. And
but he wasn't lying because I'm telling you I heard
things on his show, and four years later, I can't
give you exact for instance, but four years later it's
coming into mainstream media and everybody's hooting an Holar and Noma.
Oh my god, I don't believe it. I don't believe it.

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I'm going, oh, that's old news. I know, because I
heard it on Art Belt.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Well, yeah, to me, it was nice because the thing
is you're traveling across the county where you're in a
truck industry me, it was just moving back forth across
the country or doing things late at night, you know,
or being remote placed, like living out in the desert.
You know, signals skip wave, you pick up stations. You know.
I'd be driving, I'd be listening to it and I'd
lose the station because it's just whatever the atmospherics, and
then I'd search on the dial, and a few miles later,

(01:14:37):
I pick it up and I'm listening to the same program,
but in four states away.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Because the skipwave well eleven hundred out of Cleveland, Ohio
was when I used to pick up a lot, okay,
and you could hear that in various parts of the country. Yeah,
it seems like I got a lot of reach. It's
like fifty k or something.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Yeah, fifty thousand wats yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
So yeah, it was. It's a big radio station. I
think fifty thousands here in the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
I believe that's the case. But it's it's interesting because,
like I s, you know, at night, you've got radio wave,
especially amplitude modulation, which will bounce off the earth and
will carry for a long distance and then you pick
it up. I mean, if you think about the science
of radio waves, I mean that a loonship begger the imagine.
It's just fascinating how they actually work. But yeah, amplitude
modulation and you get that skip wave, I mean, it's fascinated.
I used to listen to radio stations all over the world.

(01:15:23):
I picked up radio stations in Scandinavia sometimes just because
of skip wave.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
Pretty well, yeah, yeah, it can happen. It depends to
an atmospheric conditions. So go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Sorry, somebody ask if I picked them all the way
from South Africa, not so much. I am not going
to pick up from South Africa because the oceans will
dissipate it. That's also in the southern Hemisphere. It doesn't
really come this way. The reason that you pick them
up from Scandinavia is because of ice flows and such.
So you get a solid surface that it bounces off
of and continues across and works this way across the
northern the hemisphere. It can go across water and bounce

(01:15:58):
across that, but it tends to dissipate absorb a lot
of it. So now it's it's you can pick up
a short wave from all over the world. That's for sure.
I've done that before too.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
Oh yeah, short waves good stuff, you know, Nikki, Yeah yeah,
I love entanglement theory. I love quantumatics, quantum mechanics or
quantum physics and the theories behind them. That's awesome stuff. Well,
you'll get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Yeah, if you're into it, you know. It's the thing
on the radio. Thing though, is as fascinating is that
radio was supposed to die. You know, television was going
to kill off. It didn't. It suffered for a while
and it was on the verge going away. But you know,
it's saved talk or not just like gave it away.
You know, it's saved radio and radio talk.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it wasn't just talk. But a lot
of people spend a lot of time in their vehicles too, yeah, well,
or they're in the garage tinking ran and the radio
is great because you got it on here in the
you know, in your garage while you're working on the car,
and you can listen to it while you're working on
your car. But it's more.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Versatile, yeah, but and it also can go further distances
than FM radio. You have to put at more power
because it's lining a site with FM. But the reason
that AM radio survived is primarily because of talk radio.
The quality of music sucks on AM radio because it's
distorted because it's hugging the ground and it gets degradation.
So the voice it's it's less demanding when it comes

(01:17:18):
to the signal. And so talk radio became interesting. It
saved AM radio. And who was the architect, one of
the big people, not behind some grand conspiracy, but but
just his talent on the air, sitting behind the golden
EIB microphone, Rush Limbaugh almost single handley saved talk radio.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
Well I know that, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
And all these other people came along, g Gordon Lyddy
and then of course and then Mark Levin and then
all these leftists came on too. But Trump Trump, Sorry,
but Rush Limbaugh was the og. He was the guy
that when AM radio was dying, his talk radio began
to revive it. And Sean Hannity came on there and

(01:17:58):
just list goes on and on. And that's what a
lot of people listen to. If they're not listening to
Mexican radio stations in America on AM radio, they're listening
to talk radio by and large.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
Well, Mexico's got different laws in the United States, and
that's why one of the reasons why Wolfman Jack was
so big, right, wasn't he carried out of the one
over there by all passo or something, And because it
was on the state line, it would carry all the
way to California because they could be run like one
hundred thousand watts or something.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
I'm not sure how the Mexicans are, but yeah, no,
it's you know, it's funny because in nineteen ninety when
the World Cup was going on for soccer World Cup,
I was course rooting for Germany, which had German players
on it. Unlike today there are no Germans on the
team there from Africa and Poland and everywhere else. But
back then they were all Germans and I was rooting
for them in the World Cup in nineteen ninety and

(01:18:43):
I would turn the television and the American stations would
have the game on. But it'd be like, and so
Johnson passes the ball at midfield to Smith. There's a
nice little cut move there, and the ball as they
move upfield here, the Americans have a good chance to score.
The last time America scored against the Mexican was nineteen
twenty six and whereas you turn. I don't speak Spanish

(01:19:04):
very well at the time, but you put on the
Spanish show hold on to the Mexicans. Man, they get
all excited, and I'm like, go oh, suddenly, listen, they're exciting.
It's not such a boring game. I turned the American
TV on. I'm like, you know anyway, so yeah, yeah,
they have a way of making it entertaining if you

(01:19:25):
don't understand the word. It's like rugby broadcasts in South Africa.
So if you listen to rugby broadcasters, most of them
they might be good broadcasters and enjoyable, but they're not
really excited. But when you listen to the language broadcast
in Koso, one of the languages spooking in South Africa,
those guys that do it are always fantastic and animated.
I enjoy that, even though don't have a new idea
what the heck they're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
I remember my father watching golf. It's like, wow, oh,
they'll put you to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Ah. When I was a kid, Jack Nicholas was his heyday,
Craig Stadler, all these other guys and the wars a
huge Jack Nicholas Fan. I was living in Ohio and
Jackets from Ohio, and so I absolutely enjoyed watching golf
when I was a kid, the British Open, the PGA Championship,
the Masters. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
I even watched until you followed golf I did in.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
High school and then when I was in junior high school.
I love watching it, but I'd never played. I mean,
this poor white kid didn't have any clubs. The first
time I ever played golf was actually at Fort Gordon
when I was in advanced individual training had the Saturday off.
I took a cab ride over to the golf course
because they had these cabs that trolled up and down
the post for you know, fifty cents or whatever you

(01:20:36):
get a trip because there's so many soldiers trying to
get around. One over the golf course came in, walked
in and said can I play here? Like, yeah, sure,
I said, well, I'm a clubs and I said, we
have clubs for rental. But they did have any left
handed clubs. So the first time I ever played, I
read it right handed clubs and purchased a couple of
balls in the in the pro shop, and I went
out and I played around eighteen holes by myself, first

(01:20:58):
time I ever played golf right handed and I'm left handed.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
I never knew you were left handed. I only heard
evil people are left handed.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
No, no, look, I'm all those things. I'm a unicorn man.
I'm left handed. My blood type is one that only
six percent of the population has. Only eighteen percent of
males have our left handed Only about fourteen percent of
the total population is actually left handed. Yeah, no, I'm
kind of the unicorn.

Speaker 4 (01:21:20):
So now my wife is left handed too. That's why
I made that statement, because we were joking about that
years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Yeah. No, it's left handed men out number left handed
women three to one. We left handed women is a
very unusual thing. But oddly I've met so many left
handed women, maybe because the topic comes up frequently. But
they are a small percentage population, whereas left handed men
are a little bit higher. But overall, I think we're
total is about fourteen eighteen percent of the population is
left handed. But it's a very it's a very biased world.

(01:21:53):
Scissors are made incorrectly for us, writing pads are made incorrectly.
Writing implements are made so that our poems get ruined.
The paper. It's just it's very frustrating for left handers.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
Right after writing, I remember what left handers trying to write.
And so my wife has to write with the right
hand because she was taught that way, because she went
to Catholic school as a child and they forced her,
and she has the hardest time writing. But now she
cannot write left handed well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
And in my handwriting is atrocious in no small measure
because I got smacked, you know, for using my left
hand in the public school as a kid. But the
thing is, because this is the theory, an idea concept,
I think that because left handers have to adjust to
a right handed world, we're much more adept to change,
much more adept at adjusting to circumstances than people who

(01:22:38):
are right handed, generally speaking, because everything is set up
for them and the world is easily regimented to the
benefit of right handed people, but not to left handers.
And so we have to be, you know, have the
ability to be chameleons and change with their environment, otherwise
we suffer. And so I think that, honestly, that's one
reason why you tend to have more left handed presence
and why you tend to have more as a higher

(01:22:59):
percentage in our population successful people who are left handed,
because we have to overcome a lot to achieve, whereas
for right handers, life's easy. Man. They handed to you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
Literally, yeah, yeah, literally, Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
You have to kind of retrain yourself and adapt and yeah,
and we kind of rewire your brain really when you
think about it, because your brain's wired for the left
side or left hand, so you're kind of rewiring yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Well, I wouldn't say rewind we're expanding in a way
that right handed people don't have to do. Yeah, we're
forced to use parts of our physical ability and our
brain power connecting those two things and impulses in ways
that people right hand will never have to do. And
so I think it makes us much more dept that's my.

Speaker 4 (01:23:38):
That's what I mean by rewiring your brain, because you
have to adapt to that environment.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
But well, and this presents a problem with firearms, you know.
So for instance, and basically training in the M sixteen rifle,
when you put that thing in your left handed and
you bring it up on your left shoulder, the chamber
kicks the boat back and the casing comes straight back,
straight back when the rifle is on your left side
instead over here in your right, on your right, it

(01:24:04):
just kicks out away from you. But when the rifles
over here, guess where that casing comes.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
Oh you've been have some safety glasses on because you
might catch it in the eye.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Yet right into your face. Typically hits me in the
cheek right here, and it burns because those casings are
hot from fighting around. That's a controlled explosion inside of
fire arm. People need to remember that. You know, the
bullet doesn't magic. If you get there, you have an
explosion that causes it to take off, so it's hot.
I was a basic training for the range in winter
time and where we had pop up targets out to

(01:24:33):
three hundred meters and we're wearing field jackets. And the
field jackets were new because we haven't been in the
army that long. They're kind of stiff. So the sleeve,
you know that right here would the front by my
wrist would be stiff. And so the solution that the
army came up with for left handed people is create
this little piece of plastic card plastic called a brass
stuff like her. And what it does it basically gets

(01:24:54):
an l shape thing, and it pops into the upper
handle of the little ball bearing and then blocks the round.
So when the bolt comes back, it hits this and
then it drops or flies sideways. Well, that's all fine
and dany, except that sometimes the bolt comes back so
hard it kicks the brass forward. Well, if you're sitting
there with a rifle like this, and you've got your

(01:25:15):
sleeve for the audience, that what I'm showing is my
right arm extended, my left arm holding back on the
trigger housing of a non existent rifle. As I fire,
the round ricochets off the brass deflector and instead of
falling to the ground, shoots forward and the hot brass
drops right down my sleeve to burn my wrist. It
sounds funny now, but at a cold January morning I

(01:25:37):
fort Letterwood with snow all over the place, You're freezing
in a foxhil with frozen ground, and you're shooting a
rifle at targets, shivering, and that brass drops down there.
It's not a fun time, I'm telling you that much.
Not a fun time you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Do with certain kind of dance right trying to get
it out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Yeah, exactly what you're like shaking your hand like can
I get and you can't. You know, you've still got
acquire targets. You don't want to, you don't want to
not qualify it, have to come back out in the
cold the next day and do it again. So but
I qualified as an expert marksman.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
So so basically you're telling me that deflector should have
had more of an angle to it. It was kind
of more blunt, so it allowed it to flex forward
instead of just take a glancing blow and shoot the
brass cartridge out to the side.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Now I think it should have happened is that the
THEM sixteen should have been made with interchangeable bolts so
that you could have a port on both sides and
you could lock one down and each X out the
other side kicks you back, so left handers could fire
in the brass and go out the left side. I
think that's what would happened, But that would have been costly,
but not prohibitively costly. So I prefer, you know, an
automatic weapon with a hang gun, so I don't have

(01:26:41):
to worry about that brass coming back on me. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
Yeah, it'd be nice to be able to reverse that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Yeah. Anyway, So Yeah, that was. That was that's being
left handed. You know, it has the challenges, but it's fine.
It's it's never been a problem for me as a
As a baseball player can be an inherent advantage, particularly
if you are a pitcher. Most left handers, just because
the nature of their throwing motion, have a natural curve ball,

(01:27:08):
and some of us have like really wicked curve balls
as the consequences, particularly if you put a little effort
into it. So when I pitched in Lileague baseball, I
did have a wicked curve. I would bring it out
and come down with a pitch. The ball released from
my hand and I wouldn't I wouldn't do anything to
make it spinner thing, but just naturally because the angle
it swung swung through it, the ball would come and

(01:27:29):
it would curve away from the batter. If I aimed
one direction, it would curve into the batter if I
went in that direction. It was pretty cool. And right
handers like sit there and try to twist the ball
around and had to put two seam fastball and how
do you put a curve on? And they mess with
it and some of the were successful, many of them were,
but for left handers. It kind of becomes a natural thing,
the arc of our pitch, which is kind of cool. So,

(01:27:50):
I mean, I love pitching. The My problem is that
I was abused from a standpoint that we only had
one pitcher instead of someone else pitching, I had to
pitch every day and my arm turned a rubber that
pitching season. It hurt a lot. Never forget that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
Oh yeah, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
People are pitching, They really put a lot into it.
You don't think about it, but they do well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Especially if you're twelve thirteen years old, you're already thrown
about eighty miles an hour. You know, that's pretty impressive.
You know, adults throw at one hundred if they're really good.

Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
Yeah, yeah, yep. So while I see in California, California
is always making the news, you know, former Democratic California
reped Katie Porter refuse to say whether or not additional
videos showing her delivering tie raids against staffers or other
existed during a two during a Tuesday interview, Porter, who

(01:28:38):
is running to replace Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom, based criticism
after videos of her threatening to walk out of an
interview and berating staffers surfaced. So imagine that Chris a Democrat,
being abusive to her staffers.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
Well, Katie Porter's campaign is not going anywhere, so maybe
this is this might be good press for us, better
than no press, just saying yeah, hurricane, hurricane. It's it's
going nowhere, going after nowhere. It's really sad. So by
the way we're talking, I'm so good.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
Oh just goes. You'd like to see somebody beat Newsome
but now her a Republican of course, but it's.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Loose and even running again, it's even eligible. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
I don't, you know, honestly, I don't know. I kind
of just assumed he could run undeterminedly and maybe they
do have a term limit on it. I don't, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Just looking up to see ye, just looking to here.
So twenty twenty six gubernatorial race. I think he's term limited. Here,
if I'm not mistaken, there's a lot of candidates here,
my goodness. So the Democrats have Ethan igar Waal, Xavier Bessera,
who's a former US Secretary Healthy Services and Attorney General

(01:29:52):
in California. Yeah, Charlyne and Butler u c l a
student Ian Calderown California Assembly, even Klunbeck, Zultan Istvan Thunder Parley,
Katie Porter, Raji, Rob Tony Thurman, Antonio Villa Groosa, and

(01:30:13):
Billy Yee or Betty Ye. And then you have Alex
Padilla and Tom Steyer who both are interested in doing it.
And then already we've had Tony Aikens, Elaineyakis and few
and them as well as Michael Younger withdraw from a race.
And then there's a number of people who refused to run.
That's Rob Bonta, Lafonza, Butler, Kamala Harris, Matt Mahon and

(01:30:37):
Adam Shift said they're not going to run. That's just Democrats.
For the Republicans, there's a whole list of them too.
Mel Gibson declined to run, Rick Renell declined to run,
Kevin McCarthy declined to run, Grant Cardoni, and Jake Steinfield
has expressed some interest. But the declared candidates are chi
On Chad Bianco. That's the Riverside County sheriff, so if

(01:31:00):
he a Brink, Sharifa Hardy, Steve Hilton, the political commentator,
Brandon Jones, Kyle Langford, and Daniel Mercury, Jimmy Parker, David Serpa,
Leo Zachi. It's just crazy. Then, of course there's a
libertarian candidate. Another is I'm sorry they declined Green Party,
can't decline Peace and Freedom Party Cline and Yeah, So
that's a lot of people that have got their hat

(01:31:22):
and a ring to be the governor of the Golden State,
which in my view isn't so golden. Yeah. I think
the Newsom is.

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
An intermit open seat. He went in twenty nineteen, the
restricted to two four year terms, so he'll be up
here this next coming.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Election, right, so he'll be twenty six and then leave's
office in twenty seven. Yeah, that's what happens. So anyway,
but I don't know what Gruesome's Gruesome's Gaby news is
going to do next. But Shifty Shift got the Senate seat,
so he's not going to run for that, and he
is not going to be president, so I guess he's

(01:31:58):
going to find some way to keep himself busy until
they can run for president.

Speaker 4 (01:32:01):
Well, I'm kind of thinking he's not going to be
the next president of the United States because it looks
to me like the politically rights got that wrapped up
pretty good. If they keep going the direction they're going,
people seem to be liking them. A lot of folks
of minority status have been deviating from the Democrat Party
and shifting to the Republican Party. So it was a
good chance that maybe this next presidential election things keep going, well,

(01:32:24):
we'll law secure the GOP for at least four more years.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
Well, it's a very real possibility. But you can't carry
your chickens for the hats.

Speaker 4 (01:32:30):
And yeah, of course, not to.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Have the plan on the worst. And I think that
some people just get a little ahead of themselves, and
I think the what we need to do is keep
our eyes on the prize here and don't let the
Democrats get a foothold on anything.

Speaker 4 (01:32:41):
When it comes to politics.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
You never let up ever, that's right, You don't take
your foot off the gas pedal. Yep, yep, Because you're right.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
Things turn fast and right now. You know, the Left
of strategizing hard, and they do have strategy teams, make
no doubts about it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
So Eric Trump has come out with a book. Did
you see that?

Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
No, I didn't know, really.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Yep, eye opening memoir. In this eye opening memoir, Eric
Trump relays surprising and gripping moments throughout his life in
curis part of the America's most powerful family. And then
he talks about the raids and his childhood home, our
logos and near assassination attempts, Rushi Gate to cold and
corrupt court rooms. Yeah, it's this book has just come out.
Is it out today? It came out today? No, yesterday,

(01:33:25):
came out yesterday, October fourteenth, So Eric Trump's under siege.
Looking forward to reading it, Johnny there.

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sitting trying to look for another article
here while you were talking about that. No, I would,
I think that's pretty sounds pretty interesting. But yeah, I'm
looking here at pritz Gerval that there will be reprisals
against immigration and customs enforcement agents when his party regains
political power. Anonymous warning that the abuses of the biden
ear could return with a vengeance. Oh right, it's already

(01:33:59):
started with him. Sometimes I think he's well aligned with
anti fund And when you read something down to people
from the ANTIFA saying, oh, you tend to believe that.
When I start saying, look at Pritzker, you need to
follow what Pritzker's saying, it's got like I wonder if
there's some signaling back and forth here.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Well, I have a few thoughts for Ribs mcfatty. There,
Ribs and mcfatty. That would, of course be JB. Pritzker,
the privileged elite turdball who inherited a fortune and accomplished
nothing in his life. You keep threatening federal agents and
you're gonna find yourself wearing an orange jumpsuit. Federal agents
are execing a federal law. You might have missed this, genius,
but there's something called the supremacy clause, and you get

(01:34:37):
around to pretend you're the Grand Pooba and dictator of
the victims of Illinois. All you want, but federal law.
Trump's your garbage, and it is time to give mister
Pritsky the purp walk for interfering with federal law enforcement
and endangering the lives of federal agents. Cartels are now
issuing fifty thousand dollars hit bonuses to kill federal agents,
particularly CBS and ICE or Customs borg troll excuse me, CBP.

(01:35:03):
This is insane, and this is being facilitated by people
like Pritzker who run their mouths and demonize federal agents
doing their job. We should not tolerate this. That is
not protected speech. These people are threatening federal officiles. That
is domestic terrorist threat. JB. Pritzker should be at this
hour tonight being arraigned in a courthouse in Chicago. The
Trump administration. He's quit sitting on this and go after

(01:35:25):
this criminal, because that's what jab Pritzker is. He's a cameral.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
You love that on a Chicago how come well.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
There's something in the water there. Ever since misster Oilary's
cow knocked that lantern over and burned the dam city down,
then they must have put something on the water table.

Speaker 4 (01:35:43):
It's possible. I think there's a lot of organized crime
on the Chicago wherein corruption come with it and uh yeah,
it just never seems to go away.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Well, there's a lot of organized crime in Washington. It's
called the Democratic National Committee.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
In anyway, so let's get back to my favorite nail
to hammer, and that is, of course none other than Zoron.
Mom Donnie, this clown is added again, my friend, this
guy is out of control. He really really, he's got
his head so far up as rectim. It's it's hilarious, Mom,
Donnie is reviving the diversity equity and inclusive goal of

(01:36:23):
ending gifted and talented program. So instead of taking children
from whatever background and promoting their skills, they're going to
put them in the class with the dunderheads, and they're
gonna have them bored, probably do stupid things, get get
academic trouble, get into disciplinary trouble, wind up with drugs
and other things, instead of encouraging gifted students to succeed.

(01:36:46):
This is the epitome of socialist nonsense, trying to reduce
everyone to the same level and punishing those to succeed.
So Mom, Donnie wants to get rid of the gifted program.
This guy is just an idiot all these life. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
You talk about the guy running in New York City.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Oh, yes, the islamis fascist. He is or I'm I'm Dunnie.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
Yeah, he's one you're praying and hopeing doesn't get in
just for the sake of the people in New York City.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Yeah, I don't say racial balance is just a word
for discrimination. It's so often level at gifted and talented
kids because they're white and Asian, they're typically a higher
proportion of kids in those programs. That's exactly right. It's
a trend trying to undermine these programs to dumb down
the education stairs. And look, we've seen this playbook, John,
We've seen it in play It's called South Africa. The

(01:37:36):
government of South Africa has lowered the passing marks. I
don't know if I've told you this. In the program
before you go through basically the high school graduation phase,
it's called mytrik for matriculation, and you take examinations to
exit high school to go to university. Hopefully you have
to score for certain percentage. The Governor of South Africa's
Education department has lowered the standards in three subjects to

(01:37:59):
thirty percent as a passing mark in one subject forty percent,
and in your abs are in your first language forty percent.
So if you go to high school and you get
thirty five percent in math and thirty seven percent of
science and thirty one percent English and your first language
is Zulu and you get fifty percent there or you
get forty one percent there, you are considered a high

(01:38:20):
school graduate worthy of entering university who accepts sixty percent
fail rate seventy percent failure, which is that that's what
is if you got thirty percent thirty one percent. That
means you've got sixty nine percent wrong. I don't want
people like that cutting the open after medical school. I
don't want people like that building the bridge that I
have to drive over every day, and I worry about
structural safety. I don't want people like that inspecting my

(01:38:40):
mean I don't want people like that anywhere near me.
Send them back to school to get an education. This
is what they did in South African. You see it
in the economy now, functionally illiterate adults. You have corporations
that are auditors. They have to bring back retired auditors
and pay the consultancy fees to train the people who
are university graduates so extensibly are prepared to do accounting,

(01:39:02):
but are incapable of it. Many of them can't add
in subtract. Yet they graduate high school, they've gone the university,
they've been giving a stipend to go there, free, free tuition,
and they cannot function society. This is what's coming for
any country that tries a stupid path. It's beyond stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
It is. It was the dumbing down that we've talked
about for forever and a day, or what they used
to call in the eighties a decline of Western civilization.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Yeah, well that's what exactly what it is. That it's
the elimination Western civilization. The Western civilization doesn't exist in
East London, it doesn't exist in Lester, it does insist
in Manchester, doesn't exist in Birmingham, and it will soon
be wiped out in all of London by the Islamization,
the urbanization, the Africanization, the Asianization of Great Britain. It's
sad to see.

Speaker 4 (01:39:46):
Yeah, no, you're right, it's the Irish are going through
a terrible time right now because of overabundance of immigration
from the Mid East and now they don't know what
to do with that. We got people complaining here in
the United States that dearborn you can hear me, right,
you know, can I screaming black, my scream my black.
I'm like, well, what happened? Uh so yeah, no, uh, Michigan,

(01:40:07):
they're complaining about dearborn mission because there's so much Islamic
population that they're ringing the bell five times a day
now in the city. You can hear it, you know,
city wide calling people to prayer. And I'm not sure
that I think that's wrong or illegal, because well, I
know it's not illegal. They can They can set their
their ordinances whatever they want. Because their population is predominantly Muslim,
they can do that. But a lot of people are

(01:40:29):
just concerned that it's a growth of islam As they
almost say, what you said, growth of Muslims in the
United States of America taken over and there's an agenda
for it. We've heard this agenda and we're seeing migration
of this in certain sectors of the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
Well, I I definitely take exception to it. This is
not Islamic society. If you want to disturb the peace
five times a day, Mecca and Medina are calling Tunis, Algiers, Damascus, Jerusalem,
it's stumbled. These are all that it welcome you there,
go there and ring your bell five times a day.
You can have your faith and not do that. Plenty

(01:41:06):
of people do that. When I lived in North Africa
in a predominant Muslim country, and I live in other
predominant Muslim countries, I respect their laws and norms. I
didn't bring my church bells and disturb their peace and
quiet at odd hours to celebrate things. So I really
do have an issue with it, and that's not acceptable
because it drives down property values, It disturbs the peace,
it disrupts sleep patterns. It's ludicrous. If you want to

(01:41:28):
celebrate your faith, do it peacefully and quiet without disturbing others.
This whole minaret thing. You shouldn't need to be called
and reminded when it's time to go pray and disturbing
my sleep. When I live in your country and you
disturb my sleep, well that's because I choose to come
to your country, and I have to tolerate it, because
it's your society, it's your rules, it's your law, this
is our country. This is not acceptable. It needs to

(01:41:49):
be stopped. We already have tens of thousands of mosc
around this country and people are flanqulently violenting the rules,
and many misspalities like Dearborn.

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
Yeah, so wasn't there some national laws coming out and
they have some bills that are trying to pass regarding
these sorts of issues.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
Well, that would be a local thing. It can be
done a state level, but it's usually done a municipal level.
Trying to stop and of course the moment they're called racist,
of course, how can be a racist against the faith
that everyone of every skin color, embraces Islam. So when
they run off that they caught anti Islamic or Islamophobia,
it's not it's not. I also don't want Hardy Krishnaz
standing in front of my house chanting all night. That's
disturbing the peace. So they're banned from that now. It's

(01:42:27):
a really sad situation and you're right, Ireland is disgraceful.
What's happening in Ireland. I think Conan McGregor is going
to wind up in charge of that country just because
the Irish politicians have failed so badly and the Irish
they've had enough, they can't take it anymore. They are
a minority of the country that being harassed and chased
off the streets of their own cities. Dublin looks like
West Africa, doesn't or it looks like Middle East, it

(01:42:48):
doesn't look like Ireland. And the people coming here, very
few of them have any interest in preserving the culture,
heritage or the language of the country they're invading, and
so why would you let them in?

Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
Not move migrating into foreign countries because they want to
embrace their culture. The objective is to migrate to foreign
countries to bring their culture of those countries. They want
to turn this into Iran Iraqs I want and so forth.
You know, these countries used to be vibrant, liberated nations
back in the day, you know, where people were could
dressed away accordingly how they wanted to address. They were

(01:43:21):
free to act by how they wanted to act. And
now they got them stuck in burkas and limited to
their travel. And you know everything's based on Shria law.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
Well, and that's another thing. You know, you have places
in England where Shria law rules, it's not even legal.
And now we have the National Health Service in the
United Kingdom COW telling to barbaric cultural practices coming out
of the Arabian Peninsula, saying that first cousin marriage is okay,
there's nothing wrong with it. It's healthy. In fact, oh

(01:43:51):
no it's not. There's a reason why we ban it.
But they're promoting first cousin marriage. But I guarantee the
first time a little sixteen year old English girl mayor
he's her seven year old British cousin and they're white,
people will lose their minds. Do that, well, why can
the Muslims do it?

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
Didn't they criticize people like Elvis or Jerry Lewis or
whatever it was over too close knit marriage.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
Jerry Lee Lewis apparently married his first cousin if I
remember correctly, and she was also a minor, so that
was a very controversial situation. But it was a different time,
different age.

Speaker 4 (01:44:26):
Were they first cousin or seconds?

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
I thought they were first cousins, Yeah, first is awfully
she was. I think she was thirteen or fourteen when
he married her.

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
Yeah, yeah, same thing with was. I think she was
fourteen or fifteen and people.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Yeah, but that's not a first cousin.

Speaker 4 (01:44:38):
That's no, No, I don't think it was.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
That's just kinder schnitzel. That's what we call it. He
can get yourself in trouble.

Speaker 4 (01:44:51):
Is that a term in Germany?

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, of course kinders children and schnitzel
was you know, a tender tender phile?

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
Yeah? Yeah, a food item, A food item, schnitzel, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
Yeah, sorry, sitzel. Schitzel is a breaded piece of veal
or or poor pork. These days you also get turkey.
It's really tasty, usually bread it and then you squeeze
some lemon over. It's quite good. But schnitze of course
is something that you enjoy. You lick your lips and
you chomp over. Hence for the losers, kinder stitzl that's

(01:45:27):
too young, stay away.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
Yeah. No, Actually, I've been a few German restaurants here
in the United States and fat it. It's pretty good.
Having had a German system. Love had some German cooking
that was good.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
A lot of German cooking is good. I love eating
in Germany. It's fantastic. The restaurants have always been amazing,
even local ones or you know, I wouldn't say world class,
but I call them world class.

Speaker 4 (01:45:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
I don't know what other people think, but German food
always got to kick that. People like in the Germans
that have a cuisine, Oh, they do have incredible cuisine.
The people that don't have any cuisine or the breads
they're the cuisine is just shocked horrible. Oh well, bangers
and mash and you know, my gosh, it's like you're
eating you're filling up a tank trap with what you

(01:46:10):
eat in the morning with those guys. And then you've
also got what's some other things are famous for that they.

Speaker 4 (01:46:15):
Well, they're known for fish and chips. Was I think
it's pretty yeah, but I.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
Mean that's that's just simple. That's not exactly that you know,
but the Brits have it. I mean like your chicken,
is it which one of which one of them is
invented y abraded? It has nothing to do with with
India one of the Indian dishes. Try which one is.
It's not chicken, it's not findal little etic but it's
what anyway, But yeah, it's uh, it's something that there was.
It's not Indian. It's just by by someone of Indians

(01:46:39):
origin in the UK to get a meal that the
Brits would eat. Yeah, it's pretty funny. But yeah, the
British cuisine is not my cup of tea. But I
do love German cuisine. French cuisine is very good. It's
not something that appeals to me, but when you sit
down and eat, it's actually pretty drun good.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
Most of the times. Man, I was in decent. Yeah,
my wife and I went to a place and we
sat down and I'm looking at snails and stuff and
look at the men. You going, no, oh, we got
to go. We didn't stay there long. We went to
the Italian place down the road.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
Well, I've always had a lookout for Indian restaurant, a
good Indian restaurant. I've eaten Indian restaurants in New York City,
in Ottawa, in Tampa, Florida, in London, fantastic there, all
over the UK and all over South Africa. And the
best Indian food I've ever had has always been in London,
just up the street from Piccadilly Circus. Some fantastic areas

(01:47:29):
of London. I think that's so who part of town.
It's just amazing and decent price. At least they were
last time night there, but it's been a few years.
I don't go to London Moore because it's just such
a hassle going into the town unless you take the train.
You don't want to drive in there and getting around,
and plus it's not English anymore, so I mean, why
would I want to go to the British Museum where
there's no Brits there, you know? Why would I want
to go to Speaker's Corner When a Christian gets up

(01:47:51):
and then a Muslim runs over to a police officer
and says, I'm offended by what he said, and they
threatened the Christian with the rest because he's speaking in
a public square. Doing what's allowed under his law. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:48:02):
What is it with the Brits? I mean, how stupid
can be with the lack of freedom of speech. Thing,
you can't say anything anymore. Somebody gets offended the point
of finger and all of a suddenly you're arrested, find
or put in jail. It's ridiculous, exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
It's just cow telling to radicals and they lack the
courage to do the right thing. It's pretty shocking, but
it's true.

Speaker 4 (01:48:22):
Wow, yeah, it's not needy to me. But I also
remember when Harry and Meghan, which I'm not. I'm not
fans of a British royalty, but I have family members
that are. But at the same time, he made a
statement one time that Americans are too hung up on
their freedom of speech. It's like, whoa, whoa, you just
need to cart your red hair butt right, I'm back

(01:48:43):
over to Britain where they don't want you there either.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
Well, people say that, but then when they find what
they feel is in the French behind their freedom of speech,
they start signing the American Constitution with the not even Americans.
A South African who was just had his visa revoked.
Someone I've actually been in an interview with previously not
to Bolloy said some vile things about Charlie Kirk and
they just revoked his visa. He's like, I've been censored,

(01:49:07):
now you haven't. No one took your comment off of Twitter.
You did that, that's on you. Yeah, but they took
away my visa. Well, you know, speech has consequences. It's
not it's not universally free. So you know, you say
stupid things, stupid things are gonna happen to you. And
so he's lost his visa to the America and he's,
you know, he feels like he's been targeted. Nope, no
one came into your house, made you sit down on

(01:49:28):
your phone and type in vile comments on your Twitter
account and then send it. No one did that. You
did that. And it's strange because later he removed it
and apologized, so obviously he must have realized there was
something wrong with it.

Speaker 4 (01:49:41):
I noticed Stephen King likes to spend his time my
next and say vile things, and there are people there
that will call him out in RB. They let him
have constantly.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
That's good. He should have a called up. I mean,
it's not my favorite. His his novels are not that great.
My cup of tea so.

Speaker 4 (01:49:56):
Well, I think we've hit the end of our show there,
all right, wrap it up, John, all right, ladies and gentlemen,
that's the end of our show. We hope you enjoyed it.
As always, we'll be back next week, same time, same place,
So be good and if you can't be good, we'll
be good at it. And were gone.
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