The Common Sense Conservatives

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters every Wednesday
evening from seven.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
To eight pm right here.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
On WUSMN fifteen ninety AM, WUSMN ninety five point three
FM and streaming live on WUSMN dot Live. Making sense
of the inverted reality we are subject to you every day.
The Common Sense Conservatives are here to help bring you
back to reality.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Your hosts, Chris Wyatt, Todd McKinley, and John Grovin.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives. It's
another Wednesday night. Chris Whitt will not be joining us
tonight because he has obligations, so we'll be missing him
for tonight, the day before Thanksgiving, Todd, So, happy Thanksgiving
to all or you know, prematurely speaking because I can't
tell you tomorrow. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody out there listening.
I hope you're enjoying your holiday, going out to visit

(00:55):
people and having a good time and seeing family. Man's
what's all about doing there, Todd?

Speaker 4 (01:01):
No, not bad, just hanging in there, just taking in
the news. Colonel Chris White's off tonight for everybody. He
didn't get the memo. He's got an obligation a fundraiser,
I believe it is. But we'll welcoming back next week
for sure, hear about all all the Turkey stories and
of course any any story stories that he may have
between now and then. Uh, doing doing his other work

(01:21):
that he does, of course, you know, he's out there
pretty much every day doing something broadcasting on his channels. Uh,
you know, breaking news, et cetera. So we'll look forward
to having him back next week, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh yeah, he does a lot of YouTube, daily daily
videos on YouTube and stuff, mostly about South Africa and stuff.
So yeah, it's always interesting report. So I did see
somebody coming on the YouTube while we were waiting for
the top of the hour breaks to end.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Common sense and conservatives don't mix. What do you think, Todd?

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah, I think we're the most rational people that are
out there. I mean, there's some certainly hardline nut jobs
that are cansider themselves conservative, but I don't believe that's true.
But look at what the left is wrought over the past,
you know, just the past decade alone. You know, let's
let's figure out who who's rational the right, common sense
conservatives or the left. You know where they think that
you can make up a gender or an identity and

(02:15):
there you are. You know, you're a unicorn today and
you're you're a whale tomorrow, you're a dragon the next day.
You know, let's pick a length, folks.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
It was karate cat. So well they may be a furry.
I don't know, but.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
I'll give you the right. You have every right to
identify as whatever. It doesn't make it a reality. So
who's more common sense here? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh, I'm getting you, man, I'm getting you. So you know,
I think somebody's right righting High Office. Last weekend's events
down there in Washington, d C. And other cities across
the United States with the remove the Regime event. Have
you heard about this?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Always? It kind of like the no Kings event here exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
They had this big DC event over the Lincoln Memorial
and h they had all these guest speakers, and ironically,
they were saying some of the things that we said
here on the show, like thirty eight threeion dollars dead
is absolutely ridiculous, and they don't.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Thanks for getting on getting getting with the program left.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, right, So there's some alignment there, but then they
started lying about Jay six and they were insurrectionists and
and uh saying Trump is breaking the law and he's
an illegitimate president and calling for Congress, and Congress is
gonna have to listen, and we're gonna make them listen.
And it's like no, yeah, huh, okay, you look at
that sunshine. You just wasted lots and lots of money
down there in DC trying to get absolutely nothing done.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yeah, well, let's just look at Washington. Let's look at
Capitol Hill. You said it was at the Lincoln Memorial, right,
so let's pretend you're at the Lincoln Memorial. Do it
doing about face? Put their Lincoln Memorial at your back,
and look over there, past the Washington Monument up to
Capitol Hill and see the Capitol You see people in
the House Senate Republicans, Democrats that don't give one care

(03:49):
about what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
And it's not because of you know, whether you're right
or wrong. They don't have to listen to you. They
don't have to listen to most ever, everybody that's out there.
This includes people on the right or the left, Uh,
the everyday people because guess what they're bought and paid
for by rich interests for the most part. And this
is this cuts across party lines. Now that doesn't include
everybody for sure, but by and by and large, most

(04:13):
of them are bought and paid for by the same money.
Uh So, it's it's it's funny. It's like, oh, it's
the left, it's the right, Republican Democrat. No, it's the
same people. Uh So, whenever you say establishment, you're not
necessarily the same republican establishment or a Democrat. It's the
same people behind the scenes for crying out loud. So
I look at it as like this, Yeah, you may
have some good, good points, you know, in your your argument,

(04:34):
but we're like lofters in a pot because we can't
agree on things, uh you know, common ground here. That
way we can go to Congress and say, hey, listen
to what we have to say. We're united on these issues.
They're happy for us to be divided left versus right, conservative, liberal,
whatever the case may be, because that means we're not
united against them, and they're.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Not exactly divide and conquer. And that's what it comes
down to.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Oh, you're right. That's why they call it the uni
party system because the same people are funding the left
or funding the right. And that's why we got rhinos,
you know, is because they're funding them in there.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
You can get a lot of folks who've been to
d C for years now that had a lot of
promise going up there, that came through with the Tea
Party movement, if you will, even those who came in
the early Maga movement fifteen sixteen election. Right, you see
a lot of them all of a sudden, they're on
board with the old establishment, do business the old way,
because you want to be there for longevity. You want

(05:28):
to be there for ten, fifteen, twenty years. You want
those chairmanships, you want that power, you want that money
under the table. So you're gonna sit there and you're
you're gonna get on board with what they're talking about.
I mean, your sense are going to tow the line.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
And it's sad.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
That's the problem to me with parties. I kind of yeah,
maybe a registered Republican. It's really that I just did
it because I was an independent and I went in
and voted for Republican primary, so I didn't re establish
my independent status, so therefore I by default became a Republican.
For me, parties don't matter. And the reason why you

(06:03):
just described, they're being bought by both sides. Everything's being
pushed in one direction. There's slight variances on how they
want to do things right now, though I'm I'm very
happy with this Congress and Trump because they are trying
to downsize government. People don't seem to understand. You can
sit there on the National mall all day long and

(06:23):
you can complain about how Obamacare is not being funded
and the cost and increase of health insurance in the
United States. But what they don't see is there's a
front side of backside to this. If you're gonna fund
Obamacare and subsidize Obamacare at one point some on trillion dollars,
you're putting a debt on the country, and that debt's
gonna inflate, so you're gonna you may gain on the

(06:45):
front side, but you're gonna lose it on the backside
due to inflation. And people don't seem to understand this.
They just see, oh, I'm gonna get quick savings now, dude,
it's not about the here and now. We're supposed to
have a country to sustain for generations to come. And
if we don't start acting responsible and take responsibility for
our actions and have a Congress that's budgeting and preparing

(07:07):
and aligning things and staying within their budget, we're going
to outspend ourselves to the point we've become crippled as
a nation, and we're already getting there. We're going to
lose and we're going to collapse as a nation because
we're out spending and carrying too much debt, and our
debts start our way are our revenue string.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Right?

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Well, you got to think in the entitlement spending is
the bulk what eighty percent of the budget?

Speaker 6 (07:32):
Right whenever you have a budget, so you only have what.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Twenty percents discretionary, So you can't you're not going to
be able to save your way out of here on
discretionary spending.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
No it Congress is going to have to do cuts,
and unfortunately, some of that's going to be military cuts.
We're gonna have to think about our positions and the
globe and stuff that we're over the thresholds and if
we don't get serious and start doing cuts and coming
back a little bit so we can start buying down
our debt, all we're going to do is work to
pay the interest on the debt and iron a certain
percentage of social security and what do they call it

(08:06):
mutual funds. We are invested into our national debt. So
they take your money as retiree or they take your
money as future retirees, and they used it to cover
the debt more or less. So what are you getting.
You're getting maybe three percent interest, but you have a
fifteen percent inflationary rate. Are you winning in this scenario? No,
you're not winning in this scenario. So we have to

(08:26):
get some sort of responsibility underway here with Congress. Or
we are all proverbally screwed as a nation, or I
should say collectively, right, collectively we're collectively yeah, yeah, yeah,
collectively as a nation, we are all screwed. So at
some point in time, man, it is time to do
some knocking on some doors. Next year is an election year,

(08:47):
and we're gonna start beating down their doors or get
into them town hall meetings and start talking to them
about this. Seriously. If you don't get this under control,
we're all done.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yeah, But the sad part is you say we're going
to knock doors, how many people actually knock on doors
for actual knocking on doors.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
You know, I'm talk about congressional doors, but yeah, yeah,
you're right about where I'm.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Not even wear It counts out in the streets, knocking
on doors for good candidates, you know, trying to get
good people elected, Whereas you know, somebody with a lot
of money can come in and spend money on ads,
can buy people to go knock doors all this stuff,
but the grassroots people just just say the heck with it.
It's too much money against me, so I won't run,
and good people won't stand up for these upstart candidates

(09:28):
that you know could honestly farewell if people help them
knock on doors, make those phone calls, do social media
work for them.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
Instead, people just kind.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Of throw their hands up and say, well, nothing I
can do.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
It's all rigged, which is stupid.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, you know, that is the worst cup out. That
is the worst couple. So I see people say that
all the time. You know, I don't bother to vote.
It's all rigged. My vote don't count. It's pointless. I'm
not wasting much better spend. But you're making it easy
for them to cheat. You're making it easy for them
to do turn the screws on the country because you're
not getting out there making it hard for them to

(10:01):
win their elections.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Because you think about this safe districts let's say Republican
or Democrat, doesn't matter where people don't run in primaries
because they're like, oh, so and so is going to
get it, you know whatever, it's all rigged, all this
good stuff. The incumbents think, well, I'm doing such a
good job because they're just re electing me a year
after years, so they're not going to change how they
do business for sure, because the message is no one

(10:24):
ran against me. You know, I didn't have to scrape
and fight for it to get re elected. So I
think I'm doing a good job. I'm going to continue
doing what I do.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
You hear that from to tell these people that have
on contested races, and every once in a while they
have them for for uh uh term after term, and
all of a suddenly somebody in their office says, you
know what, I've been watching what you're doing, and I
don't like it. They run against the right, and this
guy realizes he's underwater.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Well in Tennessee right here, most most districts in Tennessee,
and I'll just pick on the first congressional district where
I live. You know, I look at different the different counties, cities,
and the municipal races, et cetera, and you see how
many people run for reelection and how many people you know,
are running for the first time, and most time it's
it's the incumbents that they continue to get put in

(11:11):
there because new people don't run against the incumbents. They
wait for so it's an open seat. Then they'll run
for something. It's rarely that they'll challenge the incumbents, which is.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Sad, well it is. And the reason why is, you know,
you hear that, well, my representative or my senator is
a really good senator, and I don't want to be
the one trying to bump them out. It's not about
bumping them out. It's about making a name for yourself
so you're the up and comer because sooner or later
they don't want to be there anymore. Or if you
want to transition somewhere else later on in another race,
maybe even only a state race, right, you can do

(11:41):
so because now you've got a name for yourself, you
got some notoriety, you've spoken up. People know who you are,
they got familiarity with you. So when you're run and
they're more they're gonna they're gonna continue to listen to
you more intently because we've heard from you before.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, and a lot of times the up starts, and
especially in recent years, And I'm just gonna pick on
the right here just for a moment. You know, the
left for years have been just.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
Really loud, right the the loud.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
You know, they think whenever your campaign you got to
yell and scream and call names and all this stuff.
Now the right, a lot of these upstart people on
the right are doing the same exact things, taking it
from the playbook of the left. And I'm like that
this is no way to run a campaign or to
hold an elective office, because whenever you get into public office,
you burn all the bridges that you need to to
the people that you're serving. You've already burned all those bridges.

(12:26):
So how can you go back to them and tell
me you're working for them. You called them, You've already
called them names and everything under the sun. Especially at
a local office for crandit loud where everybody knows everybody,
everybody lives in the same community. You know, if you're
gonna go out there and you're gonna throw shade it,
you know, or attack your your opponent or you know,
for for whatever reason. At some point, you're gonna have
to serve those people who they're they're related to, and

(12:48):
who's supported them. Because it's such a small area. So
people need to realize that, you know, go out there
and talk about issues, delineate yourself if you will, compare
contrast between the other candidate, But you don't have to
go out there and attack them for cr like especially
at a local race.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I mean, it's just not needed anytime. It's really shouldn't
be done right. You don't build yourself up by turning
somebody else down. You've got to elevate yourself. Yeah, and
this is what we give you. Can the ad hominems
at hanam, Yeah, I ad hominem attaxes. Uh, it's a
form of weakness. I still didn't say that, right, I know,

(13:23):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
I know, it's all, but it is because you can't
talk about issues, so you pivot to calling somebody a
name or say yeah, well what about this, what about
their association with you know, so and so. Over here,
it's like, well, guess what they have to talk to everybody,
people that you disagree with, because that's what in governing.
You have to listen and talk to people and maybe
you don't agree with on a personal.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Level absolutely, you know. Well, learning how to have proper discussion,
adult discussion helps. We see that too much in politics.
These people resort to name calling, mud slinging, and at
the end of the day they're like, oh, well, you know,
we just made up. Yeah, but you know you it though,
and a bigger man.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
Right right right.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
I mean there's people that that I ran against or
that supported other candidates that I you know, that called
me some pretty good names. And the course, now all
of a sudden, they're coming with their hat in hand,
like wanting to, uh, hey, let's just talk and work
on this. And I'm like, no problem, I have no
problem sitting down with you on real issues. But I'm
not gonna be your your best pal here. You know
what I'm saying. Personally we're not going to get along.

(14:24):
But if you have a real issue that I need
to focus on as a school board member, I'm gonna
I'm gonna take that, uh you know, under advisement and
look at it.

Speaker 6 (14:32):
Uh In an honest manner.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
I'm gonna forget that you called me some names and
look at it honestly because it's for the betterment of
the people within the school district. Right, Uh, That's the
way I look at it. But but at the same time,
we're still not going to be pals, and you know,
breaking bread on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Right, you know, there's still you're there's still people that
you're out to serve for and their their opinions count
to absolutely right, and that's called above right, you rise
above circumstance.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Well, there's one guy, he's from the district and I'm
not I'm not making fun of it. Back in the
guy here, but he comes to the county commission meetings
quite regular, in the school board meetings, and he speaks
quite regular, you know. But whenever he has some something,
you know, to talk about on a true issue or
something that he's passionate about, I'll listen to what he
has to say, because you know, he is there truly

(15:17):
trying to represent people on a certain issue, if you will.
And so I don't problem listen to the guy. But
it's like, we're still not gonna be best pals, if
you will, And.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
So he never really kind of come back and say,
you know, it was campaign and I was a little
ugly and I'm sorry for that.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
No, we we kind of had a little quasi burying
of the hatchet sort of. But it's this has been
years of stuff going on, you know what I mean.
So it's one of those things, like a lot to
atone for. It's best basically to say, you know, we're
gonna move on. I'm gonna represent you honestly and equally
as ever as if I represent anybody else, you know.
I mean, I'm not gonna say just because you ran

(15:53):
against me that I'm not gonna listen to you or
not represent you.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
That would be wrong.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
When I was a kid, we used to have neighbor
kids that we fought with, be friends with them, then
we fight with then we were friends with them. Remember
one time we were all sitting there and one of
my friends says, oh, that's Eddie's house. I hate that
b really and somebody looks at him. Don't you forget
you made friends again? That's about how it goes, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
You know?

Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know you try to you try to make nice,
but deep down the side, if you feel the way
you feel that, that's how you feel.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Right, right.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Or you go to somebody's house and it's like, uh,
it's like they have a feud with with the kids
down the street, you know, and it's like you have
to have the feud with them too because you're at
their house or something. It's like, wait a minute, why
why am I feuding with them? You're you're over here,
so you got to be a part of it.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, like guilty by association thing, right, right?

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Oh man, I don't want to go be a part
of it because you know, I'm in class with this
other guy.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
You know, I don't want to alienate him. We get along.
It's like now you're over here, we gotta go get
them or whatever. It's so stupid.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
And most time it's just pranks anyway, you know, not
real fighting.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
But yeah, people have conflict of personalities and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah, I mean, but little pranks. Someone that's fun.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
You just know who you friends are when you stand
up for him because people a gonna beat him up
and you're like standing up for him, and when he say,
ain't that right? You turn around looking he's beating feet.
You're standing there alone. Something you realize man, I'm better
friend than he is.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, or I've seen that, or a guy,
uh this is years years ago, years ago, I forget
how probably or early twenties or something at some bar,
club whatever, and a guy I'm hanging out with, not
it's a larger group, if you will, And people I
went to high school with. I was just coming back
from the army and we went out to some place

(17:31):
and this guy's getting in a fight, starting a fight,
and he's like wanting everybody to help him out, but
he ran and got in a car and hid, and
like everybody's in some sort of fight, Like, wait a minute,
it was just your fight, not everybody.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
He was.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
He the instigator by any chance.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Kind of he had. I guess he had quote unquote
beef with somebody going back years or whatever.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
And it's like, why are we supposed to be a
part of this?

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, I'm the one with the black guy. You ran away,
get out of here.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
You know, I'm not gonna stand here and fight somebody
because you've had a long, long feud and you ran
away from it, you know, and ran hid in the car.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
It's like, come on, oh man.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Anyway, and both groups made fun of him. You know,
it's like here we go, look at it. We went
to the car and made fun of him and laughed
at him, and everybody went on on their business on
their way.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
So, speaking of having friends and making nice and feuding
and and all this sorts of stuff, what do you
think about mergery Taylor Green and Donald Trump's fall out?

Speaker 6 (18:24):
What are you making this?

Speaker 4 (18:27):
My thing is is what why did she resign?

Speaker 6 (18:30):
What?

Speaker 4 (18:30):
What? What? What?

Speaker 6 (18:31):
What caused her to resign?

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Like almost almost immediately like boom, I'm resigning.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Well from what she said, I mean, she pretty much
called out both parties and said nobody's fixing this. She
called out Donald Trump and said there's no there's no
game of four D chess going on here. Nobody's coming
to save us, nobody's doing anything to save this country.
So she put much of Now, she's fed up with
the with the uniparty system, she's fed up with the lies,
she's fed up with the Bolstein and she's had enough.

(18:57):
And if any nobody's gonna do anything, then she's getting
out of it because she feels like she's standing alone.
So you do see an alignment between her, sort of
a linement between her Ran Paul, and Thomas Massey have
all been attacked of course, because they're not on the
same agenda. So we're dealing with we're dealing with this
issue that they don't go with the party and now
they're being ousted. So she lost party support. That's what

(19:20):
I think happened. You must have somebody there queueing you,
and she owned up the que cards for you.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
No, no, no, I was just looking sorry.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Oh yeah, you look like you're looking off like somebody's
queueing you in. Uh no, so yeah, no, I just
seen her. Uh, I've just seen what she said, and
she's She's absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
The party is not working for the people anymore, and
both sides, both sides. I missed the guy.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Look, I like the Republican Party as it is for
what they're accomplishing, but at the same time, they're not
doing it for you and my sake. They're not doing
it for our sake. They're doing some pretty good stuff
and some pretty interesting stuff. The problem is it's it's
a bit of ugliness going on, and when the left
gets it back, we are done. They're gonna hammer on
us so hard it's incredible. So they're gonna basically do

(20:04):
to us what's happening to them. Now, They're gonna be
turning things around and laying into us pretty hard about things.
And it's like Joe Biden coming in and knocking out
of dump Trump's executive orders, you know, and then Trump
comes in and knocks all of his We're just going
tip for tat. It's nonsensical at this point in time.
And I think that's what she saw. I think she
saw that we're just nothing's getting done in Washington, DC.

(20:25):
These guys would rather make videos calling out Donald Trump
instead of balancing a budget. These guys would rather make
videos calling people out or seeking fame or trying to
bolster up their their stock portfolios based on the bills
are passing. So I think she just got enough, had
enough of it. Did she announce a date of resignation

(20:50):
at the same exact time that she's going to hit
the five year mark, So she's she's vested and gets
her gets her pinsion or what is it she gets?

Speaker 4 (21:01):
If it's not working for you, why are you taking
the money and run?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Well? Common sense would say just a few more months
and I'm vested, I might as well get what I
can out of it, but I don't know. It's kind
of a.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Point at this point, even if she was right across
the board on everything, I can't take her serious because
she waited to get that pension and won't finish out
her term. It's like, if you, if you really think
that you're on the right track here, why would you
not stay and fight against Trump or whoever you know
that you think is the problem instead of running away.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
And that's the issue. She's trying to get the party
involved in the party is not getting involved. She's not
leading anything right, No, it.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Doesn't matter at this point from from her standpoint as
far as the party support. She could ride out the
rest of her time and have a have basically a voice.
Even if she's not on any committee. She could have
a voice just by going to a microphone. People would
listen to what she has to say.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Is she not on any committees? She didn't listen. I
don't know if she Okay, I didn't know if you
were alluding to something.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
So I'm saying, but once you announce, hey, I'm no
longer going to toe the line. You know, generally leadership
kicks you out of in any committee.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
They can't just erroneously. They can't arbitrary. They got to
have a reason.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
They can take you off of all committee assignments. I mean,
they can't take you away from you know, being a
member of Congress unless obviously there's.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, but you have to be that censorship and that
has to call there.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
But leadership can tell you that you're you don't have
a committee assignment. You still can vote on the House floor,
but you don't have committee votes or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
They can you're saying, Johnson can arbitrarily just say hey,
you know what, we decided that you no longer.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, so the majority leader can do it and or
the speaker can do that.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Absolutely, there's nothing that says you you have to be
on a committee.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
That that type of cohersion. Man, that's see, that's something
that should be addressed. I realized they set their rules
and their policy within their their their House or their Senate,
and we don't get anything on that. They're not laws,
they're just rules.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
And that's what when when leadership comes anything about this.
Whenever there's leadership battles, you know, like whenever a new
Congress takes a seat, you'll you'll see people that are
loyal to one group or one person or the other. Uh,
and they'll lose committee assignments because they're gonna put their
person in there. They're people who supported them to get
the majority or leadership, and they'll kick off other people
they didn't support them.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
Yeah, that happens all the time.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
So I think with Green, yes, she's fed up, she's
had enough, and I guess she has no attentions on
coming back. She's burning bridges. You're right, she's starting a bridge,
not just for the House, but she's a part of
a bridge any where she goes. Because you're right, she
should finish out her term. If it were me, I
would not only not only would I finish on my term,
but next year is an election year. And here's what
I tell you I would do, because I think it's

(23:39):
nonsensical that these guys are being supported by corporations. These
guys are being supported by lobbyists, big spenders are buying
our members of Congress. Why are not they not going
and setting up their own committees within their states the
people that they represent. So you have people that a
committee of people that are business professionals, committee of people
that are medical professionals, trucking profess so on and so forth.

(24:01):
So you have home state support, right, So when you're home,
you have a connection with these people. You work with
these people on a daily basis. They're constantly advising you.
Why would you need big money to run when you
already have integration with your constituent base. And this is
what we're lacking in the United States is that we
have no introgation. We have members of Congress that are
segregated from their own constituent base, and they spend all

(24:24):
their time in d C. And you hardly hear from
them when they go home. They're going to corporations, They're
going to visit these big businesses and stuff going, well,
look at me, I'm throwing the hard head, I walk
the construction line or walk the you know. It's like, yeah,
you know, good for you, but you really didn't connected you.
You didn't connect with your own people.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
That's basically hockey stuff. So they can put on the
front page of a local page. Yeah yeah, you know, yeah,
oh I visited this jobs is my number one thing.
Then they go over and tour something with the Sheriff's department,
you know, the law enforcements, and my number one priority,
you know, because everything's the number.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Photo They go for photo ops all the time, and
it is.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
My number one priority, you know, whatever it is at
the VA to day. So that's my number one priority.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Posturing, yeah, right, always posturing for sure.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
But you know, you think about it, what you talked about,
if you went back home and try to have these coalitions,
who's funding a campaign if you will, especially in large districts.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Uh, and if.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
You're maybe not well known, I mean, who's going to
fund your campaign?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Well, you would think your coalition would.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Right, right, But but you think about this, your coalition
at a local level. I mean, how much money do
they really have available to them?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
How much do you need to campaign when you're mingling
with these people on a regular basis? Right, So how
much money do you because already locked in with these people,
you're doing these.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
People somebody like Marjorie Taylor Green, think about it? How
much how many millions from elsewhere is going to come
to her district to try to get her out of there?
You know, and there's people that will vote basically on
they'll see mail or after mail or and you know, uh,
commercial after commercial that's hammering her, and people just they
buy into it. But people say they don't like negative campaigning,

(26:02):
that they buy into a hook line and sinker every time.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
How many times have I heard somebody say, zoom meetings
are fine, but you don't get anything done unless you
do a face to face. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So when you're in there and you're with your people,
and you're shaking hands and you're touching these people on
a regular basis, you're reaching out to these people on
a regular basis, you're assuring these people you're doing what
they need you to do because you're communicating with them

(26:26):
and your work effort shows it. I think that would
be a lot. So I get your point that big
markets or corporations, and that's what happened to Don Boldock.
We've talked about this a lot of times, as he
was out spent by Hassen Hasse. She had party support,
she had corporate support, She had advertisements on television using

(26:46):
lies in fear mongering to make Don Don Boldock look
like he was going to rip everybody off out of
their sociality. Fear mongering. This thing's done all the time.
We hear this every two years about how the other
candidate is going to take away your social security. I
don't know why people believe that nonsense anymore. We hear
it all the time. It's a lie, and we know
it's a lie. We've seen down Boltics sitting over here
to my right at one point in time talking about

(27:08):
why would I take away your social security? I've actually
applied for social security because I qualify for it. So
if I'm getting it, why would I take it from YouTube?

Speaker 7 (27:16):
Right?

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Exactly what's gonna take away that from people is when
it collapses, essentially, when the economy collapses, when whenever the
nation collapses, because at some point, you know, trillions of
dollars in debt's gonna come do at some point, right.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
It's got to. That's the thing about it is you
can't keep out spending yourself. And that's that was a
collapse of room. Right, So when people lost their trusting
the money, they stopped taking and using the money. And
that's what Rome did. They started looting the value of
the money. They were no longer printing money with gold
or precious metals. They started putting cheap metals in there
and using cheap medals. Well, it had no value. Paper

(27:51):
currency in China I think collapsed three times when they
first started introducing the concept of paper currency, right, and
it was first introduced in China, to my understand, and
it collapsed three times. Why it had no value. It
was just a piece of paper. But you know what,
you walked over here with two chickens and a dog
or whatever, and yeah, I'll sell you my cart, you know,

(28:13):
because I can see two chickens and a dog, I
could see something of value. I got. I got something
here paper. You know what am I gonna do with
to blow my nose? I mean, come on, yeah, that's
the problem. People had no trust in it. And so
that's what happened to Rome. They lost their trust in
the in the denials, and even the soldiers didn't want
to fight for Rome anymore. They're like, we're not getting paid.

(28:34):
This is junk, this is garbage. I can dig this
out of the ground. I can dig better met all
of the ground. I'll go dig copper and get better
than this, you know. And so they decided they didn't
want to support Rome anymore. They didn't want to do
for Rome anymore. Room collapsed, you know, and they had
what the strongest currency for four hundred years. They had
a world's currency. Yeah, I think, and it happened. It

(28:55):
happened to England or their monetary system collapsed in the
early nineteen hundreds, so they're what their dollar about, what
their pound value is now used to be worth twice
I think what it is now? Oh r it happened
to Spain. Spain had like the biggest world currency. It
was all silver and stuff, but they oversaturated the market
with it and they had no industry because they let

(29:15):
their industry go because like, we're the richestation in the world.
We got all the silver. Oh you know, well, guess what,
you didn't invest into your country. So when you oversaturated
the market and with the silver and you didn't hold
all the silver anymore, guys who collapsed because now you
didn't produce anything. So we see this with monetaries. This
was when they collapsed. Nations collapse, and this will happened.
What is now happening to the United States. We are

(29:38):
a collapse and we are in a downward spiral and
refuse to recognize we are a dying nation.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Oh oh, absolutely well, people are distracted with as they said,
bread and circuses, right, juvenile from Rome?

Speaker 6 (29:50):
Right?

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, I talked about bread and circuses. Now
think about us with all the food that we have
available to its cheap, fatty. It feels good, tastes good.
All that not good for you. I mean at the ready,
you know, drive down any street. You got thousands of
fast food options, right, you know. Then there's sporting events
and television they're streaming and all these things. That face
is buried and I'm holding up my phone for the listeners.

(30:13):
But people face is buried in screens, you know, all
the time, you know, and no interaction if you will.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
Of course, we're collapsing.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
I have seen people walking across the street their face
buried in their cellphone, almost get run over by cars.
Do you do it? Like, yes, persessions have the right
of way, yes, but you still.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
Need to look yeah, move home?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
See yeah. So I mean, you know, it's concerning to me, right,
It's been an issue I've been thinking about for quite
some time. It's like, what are we really doing as
a nation?

Speaker 5 (30:42):
You know?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
That to me is the greatest concern is the fact
that we're deficit, spinning and and crewing debt and we're
killing our country at the same time. And really the
only thing holds us together from from being a collapsing nation.
Is probably because there's not a monetary system that can
replace us right now in the globe right now.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Yeah, that's that's Uh. They're working on it, for sure.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Bricks stuff towards that direction. Uh, it takes some time.
Bricks ain't gonna happen overnight, but it's it's a threat.
I see it as a viable threat. We've had arguments
on this show in the past by it's nothing, but
that's how you lose. You start looking well, it's nothing,
but down the road when it starts to become something,
you wish you'd take it seriously earlier. You know, Oh absolutely,

(31:24):
you don't want to try to block the punch after
a hit you in the face. That's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Oh absolutely, for sure, you know, and you think about it.
What's what's the biggest killer for Americans?

Speaker 8 (31:34):
Now?

Speaker 6 (31:34):
It's obesity, heart disease.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Uh. You know a lot of things that are that
are preventable, and a lot of it has to do
with our diets and lack of exercise. The fact that
we just bury our heads and screens and do much
else right, and we done my jobs leaving you know,
to go overseas. It's like a lot of jobs people
didn't want because it's like they were making making good money,
you know, for a longest time. You know, we don't

(31:57):
want all these jobs in them overseas. You know, we're
reaping the room rewards here and now all of a sudden,
there's no jobs and there's no reward at this point.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, we have a lot of production and food and stuff,
and the processing of food is crippling us as far
as our health goes, and where we're over consuming trying
to make it for nutrients, we're just not getting in foods.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
And so thousands and thousands of calories every.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Day, and we're having a sedentary lifestyle as you described,
spending time on gaming and social media and or just
being on the computer all the time. People do require
exercise exercises, how YouTube protabolism running and burn fat and
so on and so forth. You know, you definitely want
to get that cardiovascular going mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (32:40):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
And the number of the people that are because of
their bad decisions, that are quote unquote disabled. Now everybody
has to get a free check. Now, wow, I can't
do it because I've got this wrong with me. I
got this wrong with me. It's like, no, us, you
should have got up and walked and exercise and stop,
you know, eating fifty cheeseburgers a day.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
I've worked with people who used to say the only
QRE for a bad back is more work. So put
you back into it. Let's get her done.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah right, yeah right, But it's true, you do.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
You need to move around. If you lay around on
your all the time, it's gonna stiffen up, lock up,
and you're gonna have problems. So they're not wrong about that.
But exercises, Oh man, I'm telling you what stretching. Stretching
is a great valuable thing. People don't don't believe. They
take for granted when stretch and muscles all releases toxins
and creates flexibility and mobility, and it's awesome for your body.

(33:28):
But we don't. Core strength is great. You don't have
to go balk up and be real big. In fact,
it's probably not preferred, right.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
You got, well the glam muscles.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
You can't do much with them, you know obviously. Hey,
so Johnny, you want to give out the calling number.
I got an idea if people want to call in
and talk about what they're going to be doing this Thanksgiving. Uh, look,
why don't we chat with some chat with some listeners
out there if you want, if you want to give
out the.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Numbers, Yeah, if anybody wants to call in, the numbers
should be in the description if you're on social media.
But if you happen to have a pen and a
piece of paper, handy dandy nearby, the number here in
the studio six zero three eight one, six one five
nine zero, just like the AM. You're listening to fifteen

(34:15):
ninety on your AM dial. So that's six o three
eight one, six one five nine zero. We'd like to
hear from you. I'd like to know what people are
gonna do for the Thanksgiving holiday? What are you doing, Todd?

Speaker 4 (34:27):
I don't know. I'm gonna figure it out. I can
tell you that I don't know. Maybe go grab a
BikeE eat somewhere, maybe bring something back, nothing specifically playing.
Not gonna be baking or cooking a turkey. I can
tell you that for sure, not gonna.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah you ever deep fry one, No.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
I've had it. I've had deep fried turkey.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
I never I've had I've never deep fried it either.
I've had it.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
No, it's so good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Oh yeah, it changes it. I think there's something to.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
It it is. Yeah, yeah, it gives it is a
different flavor. I think.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, I'm kind of like that guy in a Christmas story.
You know, dad was a turkey junkie. Yeah, that's me.
My eyes start growing big and stuff. But I don't
think we're gonna do turkey until Saturday. My daughter's visiting
her and her boyfriend or went to his family's Connecticut,
so we're probably gonna hold off. And besides that, the
turkey froze. We won't discovered today the turkey froze, so

(35:22):
we're gonna hold off till Saturday. I think on that
due tacos for Thanksgiving. That's something new.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
There, you go, that'd be that'd be cool, I guess right,
tacos from Thanksgiving Thanksgiving. Yeah, it doesn't matter what you
eat whatever.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
No, No, I love tacos man. You know, Tacoma Trucks
took me off, Toyota Tacoma because if your letters are
taco and last four letters are coma and tacos, but
coma eat enough of them.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Yeah, it's the comb It's taco ma, taco ma.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
Hey, give me a taco.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Ma, that's right there, you go. That's a new one.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
Yeah, I love some taco.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
So did you see that those two National Guard troops
were shot in d C right near the way?

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:07):
I heard it on the top of the hour news
just before we started, and I'm thinking, what the heck?
You know, I mean, somebody just taking potshots at the
National Guard or I mean it is Washington, d C.
I don't think some of those people are rapt you type,
but national guardsmen. Oh, hang on a second, Oh.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah, they're coming after you.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Fire truck there?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Oh yeah, I was a fire truck going down Main Street, folks.
I hope everybody's doing okay. You hate to think anybody's
having the worst of times during the holiday season, but yep,
it was there. So maybe it's a false alarm.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
All right?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
So yeah here in Tennessee, AA and S is from
Fox News. By the way, a damn House hope will
get getting yanked from governor's office during attempted sitting and
goes viral ahead of election. The viral video follows other
resurface from parks and clips causing trouble for Afton ban
or Bane.

Speaker 6 (36:56):
I don't know how you say that?

Speaker 4 (36:57):
B e h n Baine Ben whatever.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
She's been the Democratic Party hopeful and Tennessee's upcoming special
election after Ben is going viral due to a twenty
nineteen incident when she was working as a political organizer
and was forcibly removed from governor Yeah, Governor Bill Lee's
office during a tempted sit in. Uh fox and he says,
Democrat Governor Bill Lee. But he's a Republican. But yeah,

(37:21):
some of his stuff he's done since he's been in
office makes me wonder.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
But anyway, interesting, all.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Right, Toby, you've got Danny the wolf I mean, sorry,
not Danny. We've got the wolf bag. Confused him for
Danny earlier. We got the Wolfman. Wolfman, you're h your
line is open.

Speaker 8 (37:41):
Are you guys doing today?

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Hey, good brother, how you doing well?

Speaker 8 (37:46):
You want to know what we're doing for Thanksgiving? Some
of us have to work through it.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Oh, where are you working at?

Speaker 6 (37:53):
Wolfman?

Speaker 8 (37:55):
I can't say where I'm working at because it's the secure,
secure building and stuff, and we got to keep that
stuff safe from all the gobbledy cookies out there.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
Right, we can appreciate that, so.

Speaker 8 (38:08):
You know, some of us have to work. Because we
went out to a little restaurant called Tinies over an
air masks and got I saw some turkey, so we
can eat our turkey dinner before we go to work.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Air in Massachusetts. That's where I was offload the trailer
when nine to eleven happened.

Speaker 8 (38:25):
I was living in Massachusetts when nine to eleven happened.
I remember that clear as day.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, you never forget that. Everybody knows where they were
when that happened.

Speaker 8 (38:34):
Remember exactly where I was and what I was doing
and who I was doing it with, you know, and uh, oh,
never gonna, never gonna forget it.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Ok, can you talk about it on the air? Is
it something you can't discuss?

Speaker 8 (38:46):
So sure we could talk about it on the air.
I was actually working for Jiffy Lub when I was
working with a bunch of my friends and uh, we
had the garage all of a sudden, just nobody was
just empty, the streets were empty, and we turned on
the uh just in time to see the second tower
get hit.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
Oh wow, sad.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
So what's what's your for Thanksgiving? You said turkey turkey sandwiches?
What what's your favorite?

Speaker 6 (39:11):
There?

Speaker 8 (39:12):
My favorite dish is a sweet potatoes.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
Oh yes, sir, I love.

Speaker 8 (39:16):
It, but it's gotta be done right. You gotta mash
him up, you gotta put him in the oven with
the marshmallows on it. And baby, yeah, that is that a.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
New England thing.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
My wife loves sweet potatoes and yams.

Speaker 8 (39:29):
I believe, I believe it is a New England thing. Uh.
I know down south they do the boiled yams, but
it's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Is that what you do, Todd? You do the boiled yams.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
I don't boil anything, my friend, somebody else.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
But oh you don't care as long as it's made.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
Hey, somebody makes it.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
So you don't know how to cook Todd.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
I can cook what I like.

Speaker 8 (39:49):
You know, you can cook hungry He can cook hungry
man dinners like nobody's business.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
Nobody's business.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
He got it.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
He knows the drive like nobody.

Speaker 8 (40:00):
Guys. Have a good Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
All right, thank you too, my friend.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
That's call good call there.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (40:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
I love everybody's insight on what they're doing for Thanksgiving here.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
That was fun. Yeah, anybody else want to call that number?
You know, six zero three eight one six one nine
zero Let us know what you're doing for the holidays,
and it's a ringing todd no good deal.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
Perfect somebody there as John.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
John's get working the call there to make sure that
we have a true caller on the line. Some some
of us people call during the show and prank call,
and you know, so he doesn't want to put a
prank caller on the line there. But let's see what
John has for us. John, what do we got?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Well, I didn't get a name, but caller, the line
is open for you.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Well, hey, hey, it's.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
There.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
We go carry Carpenter calling in. She's from Where are
you at? You're in Alabama right now?

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Right part I am, And I've got my phone turned
up as loud as I can, but I can't hear
you very well, we are in Cimmer, Alabama.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
We can hear you. Just find So what's everybody doing
there in best around Alabama for for Thanksgiving weekend?

Speaker 5 (41:16):
Well, right now, we're eating barbecue very traditionally.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
You can't go to the South without even barbecue.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
No, that's right, and all the big stuff.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
How many animals are in the house?

Speaker 5 (41:33):
Does that count children?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
No?

Speaker 5 (41:36):
No, no, no, no, well just one dog right now?

Speaker 8 (41:40):
All right?

Speaker 4 (41:40):
One dog's in the house, and how many kids are
bumping around there?

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Just too right now? But there's there will be more.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Here in just a little bit, all right. And they
get along pretty well.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Oh yeah, sure, Oh yeah, we're having a great time.
We've had lots of maps and fudge and checks mix.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
Right, good deal.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
So, by the way, John, just so you know, carry
Carrie Carpenter here, who's on the line. She's made some
of our logos for some of our special episodes, by
the way, all right, Yeah, she does a lot of
She does a lot of work for me as far
as logos, anything you need. She does a hell of
a job. So I'm trying to get her to put
together a portfolio, put on a social media website page

(42:23):
and maybe make a little bit of money off of it.
She does a good job.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Oh nice.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
So you do graphic cards, yes, on the side, mostly
for Todd.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
I don't think that's the way you're supposed to sell
yourself now, it's not just for Todd, right, just for
the public. Man. I've been doing this for years and
got a lot of experience at it, and give you
a fair.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Well, anybody else have any any things that they want
to talk about as far as Thanksgiving, what they're thankful for.
Maybe Ellie Anna wants to step in and right who
else has something to thankful for?

Speaker 5 (43:04):
Or somebody, Oh, I'm thankful for all the famili who's
coming into town from different places?

Speaker 4 (43:11):
All right, good day. So where is everybody coming from
to best around Alabama? Where they all? What parts they
come from?

Speaker 5 (43:17):
Well, we're from Tennessee. The aunt and nuncle over here
or they moved up to Florence, so they're almost in Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
Missy is from the eastern shore of Maryland. She just
flew in this afternoon. And my nephew is coming over
from here from Barry College, he had to say because
they made the playoffs, so he'll be here tomorrow. And
some auburns is coming later. We have two that are
moving from Florida to Texas right now. So there's something

(43:47):
here on the way to Texas with their U haul.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Oh wow, that's yeah, if that's out of the way
or not. But still it's to stop over before you
make it to Texas. That's a long waist, right.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
We're having a good time anyway.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
So when we're we're pushing in on twenty twenty six, Right,
twenty twenty six coming up. I know it's a little
bit too early to talk about New Year's resolutions, but
you know, why not throw out a New Year's resolution
before we get to the bottom of the hour here?

Speaker 5 (44:18):
Okay, anybody have a revolution of Anna's got one?

Speaker 7 (44:25):
Never mind? I would say that, sure, hopefully that someone
takes me to a gun range.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Her resolution is to get to the gun range.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
That's a good one. Have you best to.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
Clean the room?

Speaker 5 (44:43):
I think that might have been a little hint.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Dropped right now. She's never been to a gun range.
I don't think has.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
She No, I think she's still waiting on you to
take her.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Right, Well, we're gonna teach her all the safety techniques,
all that stuff before you even start firing a weapon
and learn how to use it correctly. Say right there
we go, any fight everybody.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Anybody else?

Speaker 6 (45:08):
All right?

Speaker 5 (45:09):
We're just hoping next year is going to be a
lot less eventful than this one.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Okay, all right, Well we'll see work art. Yeah, no
wor shark. But little Anna there got bit by a
shark a few weeks ago. Well, tiny shark. I think
it was a.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Little spinner or something.

Speaker 6 (45:27):
I don't know how, but it was tell us the
story there.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
Annah, you want to tell a story about your shark bot.

Speaker 7 (45:32):
No, that's way too long. I can keep it short, Ellie.
Thank you. So I was in the ocean away hit me.
We start, they start hit my foot and I took
it off and I walked out of the water, and
then my heel was bleeding and sporting blood really bad.
And then they didn't call the ambulance for about five

(45:55):
minutes because they didn't know what to do, even though
I was about to go into shark and then uh,
somebody finally got there. They wrapped up my foot. I
went to the hospital it's about twenty minutes away, and
then I was in that waiting room for about two hours.
And then they finally got me back into a room
and then they cleaned it. I passed out and then
I wocome back out again sadly, and then I bought

(46:18):
my stitches. I had eight. I should have had nine,
or like six or seven.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Six.

Speaker 7 (46:24):
There we go, and then I'll find crutches for about
two weeks and I literally lost all the muscle on
my foot. And then I can walk.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Now, there you go. Well, what a what a story
for Jaws attacked your back up and good job. All right, folks,
we got an open line if anybody wants to call
us at six o three eight one six fifteen ninety.
That's one five nine zero. We got to open line.
Tell us what you want to talk about, or what
you're gonna do for Thanksgiving, what you're thankful for, what
are you gonna eat and and or what are your traditions.

(46:55):
Generally everybody doesn't celebrate the same, that's for sure.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
Before we hang up, I will tell you that sweet
potatoes are a big deal here, and we do not
put marshmallows on them.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
So how do you cook them? Exactly? Do you boil them?
He alluded to you might boil them in the South.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
Well, we don't actually use the potato. We use bruces, yams,
the tall cans, and there's some vanilla involved. There's two
kinds of sugar, there's butter, and the topping has the
cons and very finally crushed up with some better and
better stuff mixed up, and so it's almost like at

(47:36):
the corn pile on top, but with sweet cat on
the bottom.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I was going to say, this was starting to sound
like a dessert in the making.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
Most of the things that are on our table are
very dessert ish except for the meat. So yes, lots
of casseroles delicious and so many people that we usually
have to eat in the garage. Is great. All right, Well,

(48:05):
you all have a happy Thanksgiving, all right.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
We will appreciate you calling. I'm telling us that. Yeah,
feel free to call in, folks if if you have
a moment, tell us uh about your Thanksgiving, what you're
going to get into, your favorite food traditions, et cetera,
et cetera.

Speaker 6 (48:19):
Any any any call through the.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
Second hour, no problem, of course, Colonel Chris White is
not here with us. He has an engagement the night
at his local vf W. So yes, attend to two uh,
but we're gonna fill in it tonight, hopefully, do uh
do our level best to make him. Maybe we'll not
miss the colonel this week. We'll see.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
He'll be back next week though there's those that will miss.

Speaker 6 (48:39):
Him absolutely for sure. Yep, yep, yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
So anyway, I'm just looking for some headlines here, trying
to get an update on the National Guard.

Speaker 6 (48:49):
Folks at see.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Well, after we did our show last week, we did
have including Maggie Goodland or six people Mark Kelly the
good Lander for all the names, decided that they were
going to make an announcement or a video to write
tell members. I mean, we've all heard it, tell members
of the military that they're obligated not to follow illegal laws.

(49:14):
I thought everybody that was introduced in the military, that
went through boot camp and stuff were taught this, right, Todd.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Right, absolutely, yeah. And here's the thing. They weren't reminding
you that you're you're obligated to not follow illegal orders,
actually obligated. I mean, you're getting drilled into your head
all the time. Nothing in constitutional, nothing illegal. You know,
somebody tells you to go shoot a prisoner, you don't
do that. You know, you're not disobeying an order that's
not a legal, lawful order, and that's going to happen

(49:39):
to you. Don't go execute a prisoner. You know, don't go,
you know, raid somebody's house that you know that you
don't have direct orders to go into for whatever reason.
You know, in a combat scenario, you know, you just
don't do certain things, you know, and also whenever you're
detaining a prisoner, you don't just beat the hell out
of them. You know I'm talking about now, if you're
trying to apprehend them, they're fighting you, it's a different situation.
You know, put hands on.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Them, combat whatever you gotta do.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
They surrender, don't put hands on them. Don't beat the
hell out of them.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
You know.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
I obviously you're gonna put you know, the required restraints
on them, et cetera. But nothing to it to excess.
I mean, I get it. They were combat in just
a few minutes before. But they throw down the rifle
and surrender whatever. You know, they're no longer combat. We
follow rules, and you know, we understand we don't follow
illegal orders. We get that trained and drilled into us,

(50:27):
for sure. We didn't need members of Congress to sit
there and basically winking a nod, Hey, don't don't follow
these orders of this guy. You know, we understand don't
follow illegal orders. Didn't need members of Congress to say it.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
So what was the purpose of them saying it? If military?

Speaker 4 (50:43):
I think it's a wink and a nod. You know, basically, hey,
if you don't like him, don't like what's going on.
Whether or not you're a Republican or on the right, regardless,
you don't really have to listen to this nonsense in
this idiot. But here's the thing. Those members of Congress,
they're not going to have your back on anything, that's
for sure.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Well wait a minute, good Lander making Goodlander said we
just want our members in the military. No, we got
your back. So my response to her on social media was,
all right, so if you got their back, what kind
of advicements do you offer them, and where do you
drive these advicements? So if they don't, they don't have
anything to offer them for advice. They're just saying we
got your back. That's pretty that's pretty shallow.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Right right, And how do you have my back if
I do get And I'm saying me as just pretend
that I'm a member of the military retire. Let's say
I decided, if I were still serving, I don't like
a certain order illegal or not, and I just say
it's illegal, unilaterally decided it's illegal, and it turns out no,
it's not illegal. I just didn't like it politically. Are

(51:43):
you gonna have my back? Then? No, you're not, because
they can't get it. And what do they get it?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
I mean, these guys.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Aren't illegal, you know. And I have to go through
the process. I get kicked out, I get tried, convicted,
whatever the case may be. My life's pretty much ruined
at that point. My career's ruined for sure. How are
you gonna have my back?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Exactly? They're not, they're not. That's just that we see
Congress have hearings all the time, they bring people in,
they waste their time doing all these congressional investigations, and
what comes out of it absolutely nothing.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Nothing, And you, as the individual, will have ruined your
life and your career standing up for something that may
or may not be illegal. And if it is illegal,
five years down the row and President Trump's out of office,
your career is ruined. Your your your life's ruined. Oh
that that thing that that he disobeyed was illegal, okay, whatever,
Your career is already ruined at that point.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Absolutely, you're done. We're talking about court martial, We're talking
about loss of rink, we're talking about loss of pay,
We're talking about dishonable discharge, a loss of retirement. It
depends on your circumstance, but it could be nasty for
these guys. It's nothing to be taken lighthearted at all.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
Right, Yeah, right, you're absolutely correct.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
But every time there's been a court case, it's Supreme
Court had a ruling against President Trump, to include his
first term, he's always stood down if they ruled against him,
and then that's a fact. So to say he's out
there thrown out illegal orders, yeah, if something is the
illegal un constitution once it's ruled, hey, he stopped every
time he has.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
But I think we'll get an activist judges involved here, Todd.
I don't think these are legitimate rulings. We've covered this
before with Title ten USC Section two fifty three. Whether
the president may use the militia the armed forces are
both by any other means necessary, and they're talking about
basically bringing law in order back into effect in this

(53:30):
particular US Title Code. And so if he's got these boundaries,
you've got these, If he's got these abilities, he's this
law that gives them the power to use the National Guard.
And we've seen it in the past. We've used the
National Guard so many times in the past. But for
some reason, when Donald Trump says, hey, I'm going to
protect federal land during twenty twenty riots, he was called

(53:51):
a bad guy. He wasn't using them in the streets.
He was using them just to protect you know, courthouses
and things like that. So he's the bad guy.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
Yes, so they couldn't do billions of dollars worth of
damage anyway.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, it's time for the top of the hour, folks,
So we're going to take a quick break and we'll
be back after the top of the hour news. Don't
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(54:58):
and also Facebook underneath it's the Common Sense Conservatives. If
you want to get into the chat and talk a
little bit and join the conversation. Todd, we were talking
a little bit about Maggie and company and their foolishness
with the video and trying to undermine the president, and
to the point the FBI decided to investigate them determine

(55:20):
if there was any wrongdoing. Honestly, I don't think there was.
There's nothing illegal or wrong about saying, hey, guys, just
remind minder you know the law is. But yet they
wanted to make sure maybe they weren't misspoken. I guess
I'm not sure exactly. So I think it was Slotski.
I think that's her name. Represented. Slotsky made a statement about, well,

(55:42):
that's why we did it, you say, because now we're
going to show Trump's weaponize. Like how they're doing is
just looking into it. Guys, they're not arresting you, they're
not weaponizing the government against you. But now that's their claim,
you know, So they're just trying to benfit off the action.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
I think, well, yeah, here's the thing. They're like, well,
maybe we did something wrong here that we should have
done as members of Congress, but now we got to
flip it back on Trump and make it make him
the bad guy because the FBI is investigating.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
See, he's weaponized the FBI.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
So yeah, you know, we saw seeing all the lawfare
for over four years and all of a sudden, you
now Trump weaponizing the FBI. This is an outrage the
illegal president, well we mean illegal? Was he illegal? But migrant?
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You call for for violence or something,
and then all of a sudden they investigate. You're like,
wait a minute, he's weaponizing the FBI. It's like, you know, no,
you're calling for violence. Although they didn't in this instance,
mind you, but I'm just.

Speaker 6 (56:34):
Saying, you know, he's weaponizing the FBI.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
No, they're doing their job investigating you because you did
something that no member of Congress should be doing. You
know what, why do you need to remind anyone what
U C MJ or what what the law allows for?

Speaker 6 (56:48):
You know, I'm sorry you.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
Didn't need to do that. There was a reason behind it.
They wanted to basically allow for people in the military
to disrupt, you know, the regular proceedings of government, if
you will, to under mind President Trump, uh and create
a headache for him. I think that's their their intent
here was to do that.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Yeah, they were, well, they're trying to make them look bad.
They're right, hold him in a negative light, and it's right,
it's them that looks bad. I mean We're sitting there
talking about an unbalanced budget, we're talking about definitive spending,
we're talking about a national deaths that just outrage.

Speaker 8 (57:19):
Up.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Do I want to about outrage? That's outrage? Okay? And
they don't want to do their jobs. They'd rather make
stupid videos.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
Right absolutely.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
And you think about this, what's gonna happen is whenever
you have that that young E three for you know,
E two, decide he's just gonna just be the thorn
in the side. He's eighteen nineteen whatever, he just wants
to be a thorn in the side. His brain's still developing.
For crinut loud, he's not he's not reached twenty five yet,
you know. So he's just like, I'm just gonna be
a thorn in the side.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
The heck with this.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
I got these members of Congress but on my back,
you know, and that that sergeant and that were that
that lieutenant, and now I don't like them. They keep
telling me what to do. I'm just gonna shirk my
duties and then claim, oh, that was in legal order,
you know. And it's going to create chaos at the
lower level that we don't need.

Speaker 6 (58:01):
I can see it. Happening.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Absolutely, that's all.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
I dealt with a lot of soldiers in my time,
and some of the younger troops. Man, they just want
to be a thorn in your side, just to test
how far they can go. And nobody like they'll cite
u c m J Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
All day long.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
I can do this technically, I can use this, and
it's like I can also have you, you know, somebody
beat the hell out of you about two seconds if
you don't, you know.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
We don't beat the hell out of people, right, we
push ups now or where you find yourself suddenly stationed
in northern Alaska next to the Arctic Circle.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
You know.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
But but basically, people like that these thorns on the side,
they undermine good order and discipline in your unit, in
your platoon and your company or whatever. And it's not
Donald Trump that's going to suffer. It's your military readiness
that's going to suffer in the Grand scheme if enough
people will take.

Speaker 6 (58:52):
Them up on this ridiculousness.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
The Left has proven that they don't have any respect
for the military when they start let let women men
wear dresses and carry on like the women and stuff
and right, lipstick and dresses just don't work in the military.
I'm sorry, it's just.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
And then whenever you talk about sending you know, these
trends or whatever people to overseas, it's like, I can't.
I mean, I gotta have my medical treatment here. It's like, now,
now you're not ready to deploy. You're signed up to
do a job that may send you in harm's way
or send you somewhere around the around the world, and
in short, short notice. In some cases, I can't do

(59:27):
it because they have made treatments and all this when
you shouldn't be joining the military to get treatments like
that anyway.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
I'm talking about trans people, right.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
It's not there for a free ride. It's there to
do a job. Fulfill your job. There's benefits for doing
the job, but do the job.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
And people who suffer from mental illness, there's a way
to get you out of the military and it won't
ruin your your life and and follow your your post
military career at all. There's a way to get you
out where it's not going to follow you in a
negative light, Whereas if you committed a crime and get
kicked out that way, that's going to follow you for sure.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
You know, back in the day, warring a dress was
an attempt to get out of the military. Now it
has to be a joke. You know, everybody knew was a.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
Major side Well, I want to say a major the
major recurring character, you know Clinger.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Right, yeah, far Mass Yeah right, that was great man
he played. He played that part.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Well, oh absolutely, But you know from what Toledo Toledo
mud Hens is something like that, you love Toledo.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
I don't recall that part. I just remember his character.
I remember a lot of the people from the from
the TV series and stuff, and yeah, he was looking
for that discharge and couldn't get it. They knew he
was up to all the time, right, So that was
the running joke, and he was committed to it. He
wasn't going to give it up, right right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
It's just a running gag the whole time. Nowadays, if
you try to do something like at a TV show
you get boycotted and shut down.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
You know, you'd be like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
But as funny as back then, you got to think
that the most most of the casts of MASH were
probably at based on the time, probably liberal democrats of
their day. You know, I'm certainly not leftists compared to today,
but they were probably liberal Democrats, and they were they
were making fun of this just because it was funny,
you know, they were they were going after people who
were truly suffering, uh you know, gender dysmorphy or something

(01:01:11):
like that. They're just making a joke if somebody who's
trying to get a Section eight. And people did that
in the military, going back since you know, time in
memorium for crying a loud, people try to get out
of the military.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Shoot themselves on the foot or stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Absolutely, people people do stupid stuff to try to get
out whatever, you know, And so that's just one of
the things people did back then.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
So anyway, yeah, well now they embrace it, or they
did under the Abide administration. And yeah, Trump came along
and brought some common sense back to us, like come on, guys,
you're making a mockery out of our military. Stop. Oh absolutely,
the Globe and I think I think that's the thing
about it, you know, as he pointed out, he says,

(01:01:55):
you know, we had no respect on the globe and
we're regaining that now. In fact, he said that when
he met with Mama Mamandi. Yeah, yeah, Mamandi, Yeah, mam Donnie. Yeah,
I can almost say his name anyway. Yeah, he met
with him, which was an interesting occurrence. I'm not sure
how I feel about that, but yeah, the way the
way they were talking about it there the news you know,

(01:02:17):
on the conference at the end and stuff is like
it seems awfully aligned there to each other for people
that didn't have any alignment.

Speaker 6 (01:02:26):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
But it's funny as how He's like, oh, I can
work with him. He's gonna do good things, gonna do
great all this stuff. It's like I thought he you know,
this guy hated you going into this meeting, called you
the worst thing ever. But it's like, I can work
with him and do this, and I get it. Trump's
gonna have to work with him. I mean, he's the
mayor arguably of the most important city in the country arguably, right, Yeah,

(01:02:49):
I mean especially an important city, whether it's the most important,
but it is an important city in our nation. You know,
he's gonna have to work with him. He's you know,
the most visible mayor probably in the country, maybe even
in the world, the New York City mayor of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
I think, uh, they found some mutual ground anyway. I mean,
I'm sure there are some issues going to New York
City that need to be addressed, and I'm sure TRUP
wants to help address some of those issues.

Speaker 6 (01:03:12):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Uh, it just sounds kind of funny because this guy
is basically borderline communists, you know, he calls himself a
Democrat socialist and talking about all these things about how
New York City was going to own the grocery stores
and all these things and calling Trump a fascists and
I love doing. The reporter called them out on that,
Oh you were calling Trump a fascists before. The guy
didn't to answer. Trump just like pats them on the back.

(01:03:34):
He said, just answer the quad. Just tell him it's easier,
right right, Yeah, yeah, I love that typical Trump. Yeah yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Think yeah, I don't think Mom Doddy knew how to
handle that. He's like, yeah, just go ahead, tell him,
it's all good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Yeah, that's Trump though, that's you know that. That See,
that was an indicator that those two had a conversation
that was probably went in Trump's favor, right, And so
you know Trump, we've discussed this in the past, like
saying it now, I can't I can't think of his
name there in Florida, Florida governor, I can't right right,
Rond Santa see, yeah, yeah, he was man, and they

(01:04:09):
were going at it during the election. And as soon
as Ron De Santis decided, you know what I'm done,
I'm bowing out of this election and made his announcement,
Trump's like, yeah, he's no longer just sainctimonius. Me and
Ron we're fine now, you know, best of buns. And
He's like that if you go against him and you
want to lock horns with him, well you're gonna find
a formidable folk. You know, he's gonna lock horns? Is

(01:04:29):
he gonna show you whose boss? When when it's all
said and done the dust settle. He's like, all right,
come on, let's well he doesn't drink.

Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
What's that is that the sycophants in the scenario?

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Who will?

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Trump will be right no matter what, even though he's
wrong in some many circumstances. You know, it's like, let's
don't be sycophantic for anybody. You know, if somebody's wrong,
let's call him out on it, you know. And a
lot of times these people will just roll over me
and like scratch my belly even though I was right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
You know, yeah, some people like their yes men, and
uh uh, I don't know. I don't know how that
works for Donald Trump, but uh uh.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
Yeah, no, I mean a lot of times we don't
get the best people in offices.

Speaker 6 (01:05:10):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
That's pretty much all I'll say on that one. I mean, yeah,
that's true. I mean, anybody who wants a yes man
or somebody to tell you what you you know, what
you want to hear you think about it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:22):
Yeah, I hate to hesitate.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
I hate hesitate to use this as an example, but
you know, any dictators, you know, any nation has ever
had been led by a dictator, uh, you know, nobody
tells a dictator no, even though whenever they need to
need to be told no, you know, like Napoleon going
into Rush in the middle of the wintertime, or or
or you know, Nazi Germany, like probably shouldn't go in
the in there without prepared, being prepared, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
What I'm saying, right right, You got do soldiers looking
at it going you know, we're going to die in there,
right Yeah. But I'm not gonna be the one to
tell them We're gonna roll.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Right, all them no problem, Like, hey, can we strategically
withdraw No, no withdrawals, no, no retreats.

Speaker 6 (01:05:59):
Everybody dies.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Somebody wants to tell them no, hey, this attack's not working.
You know, people don't want to tell the leader no,
which I think is sad.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Yeah. I think that example you used, didn't the Russians
invite them in and keep them company until winter rolled
around and then did it to them. They had them
beat in the winter until they kind of waited it out.

Speaker 6 (01:06:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
I mean you got to think all these armies invaded,
they think, you know, well, we're invading in the summertime,
and it's like, yeah, by the time you get deep
into Russia, that's several months. You know that you've slogged.
Now all of a sudden, you're pushing winter time and
now you've been cut off from your supply train. What
about your winter gear? You're going to have that? No,
that's not important because at this point, it's fuel, it's ammo,
it's all the other things that you need to fight

(01:06:42):
a war, and it's all the creature comforts that are
soldier needs to stay warm and survive. They don't have that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
They didn't plan for it all. In fact, I think
from my understanding of that history, they used like brass buns,
a fragile type of metal that was breaking because it
was so cold it wouldn't keep their jacket shut anymore
and stuff, and they were just yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Is bad, right, absolutely no plan to send you know,
warm gears, like, oh, it'll be done by summertime, you know,
a few months. Because they looked at Poland, I say,
Nazi Germany they looked at Poland, and how quickly they
both wrote, you know, ran through them.

Speaker 6 (01:07:14):
Like a hot knight through butter.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
And it's like, but the Soviets have nowhere else to
fall back to, you know, they have nothing else. Plus,
the Poland was fighting, you know that the Russians and Germany,
you know, at the same time, on both sides. Yeah,
so they had no chance. They were fighting you know,
modern tanks with basically small World War One tanks and
some horses. It's about it, you know, no chance I

(01:07:38):
mean against Nazi armor for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Yeah, that kind of that's they got pinched.

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
But once uh, once Russia pulled up, pulled Nazi Germany
into it, further into the Soviet territory, you know, it
was pretty much done for them. At that point, and
of course nobody wanted to tell Hitler no. And I'm
not comparing Donald Trump and Hitler, don't get me wrong.
I'm just saying any leader should be able to have
somebody that can tell them no and here's why, and
and any good leader will look at it and say, yeah,

(01:08:04):
you're right on that circumstance. I'm gonna make a change
on that and be able to articulate why you're making
a change, no problem, and nobody should beat you up
on that if you make an informed decision in the moment,
you know what I'm saying. The sad part is you
have so many people that are uninformed, the uninformed elector
that are out there, not everybody, but a lot of
them that will just beat you up on everything and
say why didn't you do this and this and this

(01:08:24):
is But there's the scenario driven decisions you have to
make at points as a leader. You know, you may
promise something going in you're gonna do X, Y and Z,
scenario driven on the ground, you can't do.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
X, Y and Z.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
You gotta do a, B and C and you articulate
why you had to make a change. And I think
that's what being leaders all about, but not looking to
people that won't tell you no, it's not a good leader.
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Now we talked about military, you talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Just in general, just in general, public, public, elected official, military.
You're you're in charge of an organization. Whatever you should
people that can tell you no. And I'm not telling
you that telling you know, you know, if you have
the right to tell them to do something or whatever.
But if it's as long as it's moral, ethical, legal,
et cetera. You should be able to tell somebody to
do something. They should be able to give you an

(01:09:10):
answer say, hey, that's not going to work based on
the scenario in the ground or historical data says that
this is not a good decision. How about we do
it this way. Be able to take that advice from
your supporters. I think it's important as a good leader.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Well, the thing of it is, okay, let's take the
president for example, he delegates, right, you're going to put somebody.
Somebody's going to head the FBI, somebody's going to head DHS,
somebody's going to head a secretary of transportation. Right now,
you're delegating them. So these are, yeah, these are leaders
among you when you delegate it to them, Let them
do their job. All you need to know is progress.

(01:09:44):
Where are we at, how are things coming along? Things
like that. Right, if you're trying to micromanage the people
you delegated, you're going to have a collapse in your structure.
And that's I think that's where Obama was failing because
I think he did a lot of micromanaging within his administration.

Speaker 7 (01:09:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
I think Donald Trump delegates. I think Donald Trump allows
them to do their jobs. I don't think he's riding
their hind quarters all the time. You know, he has
his meetings and stuff like that. He's gonna get his updates.
He wants to know where they stand. He might give
him a little direction, like you know, I kind of
wish you would go this direction or something like that.
But all in no, I don't think he's micromanaging. I
think where Donald Trump is weakest is he attacks so

(01:10:21):
like Marjorie Taylor Green, she didn't agree with him, so
now he jumped all over like he does. Or Ran Paul.
He doesn't like ram Paul because Ram Paul doesn't agree
with him, so he attacks Ram Paul. Thomas Massey. He
wants to he's moving to replace Thomas Massey. I don't
think that's a good strategy on his part. You've got
some good people in Congress, and just because they don't

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agree with you, I don't think he should be trying
to ostracize them because now what you're doing, you're creating
a process called a group thing process where if you
don't agree with me, then you're not part of the group.
You know, the party's not meant to be just the president.
The party's meant to be, although they call the president
the head of the party at times, but the party

(01:11:04):
they are, yeah, more or less, but just the same
congressional member. And this is where Marjorie Taylor Green was correct.

Speaker 6 (01:11:11):
Yeah, I'm sorry I said titular head.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
Maybe not titular head, but they are the head because
they are the president of the title head would be
the rn C chair.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
But anyway, yeah, exactly. So, they like the Left, always
refers to the president as the not the leader, but
the yeah, the leader of the party or head of
the party or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
When the Democrats have the presidency, it's the same thing.
They're ahead of their party basically.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
So anyway, but the thing with Green, what was I
saying here is Oh, she made a statement about she
should have a right to serve her constituents, she shouldn't
have to serve the party, and she was she was
exactly right when she said that. She was exactly right
about what she said in that she shouldn't be there
to serve the party because this again creates that whole

(01:11:56):
group thing process. If you're not doing for the party,
we're not going to support you. When well, this is
how country gets driven in the wrong directions. This is
how other people in these think tanks, like say Heritage Foundation,
all these other thinktanks come together and they create this
agenda and they're controlling our elected officials and the party
by not backing those elected officials who were trying to

(01:12:17):
serve their constituents. And that's exactly what she said. Her
best interest is to serve constituents, but the party is
interfering with that. And I'm agreemance to that, you know,
and I line her up with Darna. I wish her
name would come to me at Arizona Cinema. Cinema, the
party ostracized her because she wanted They wanted her to

(01:12:38):
vote again with them against the filibuster to get rid
of the filibuster, and she wouldn't do it, so they
ostracized her, they defunded her, and basically ran her out
of the party and replaced her. That's not a good
that's not a good look, and that's not you know,
that's not good for this country because now you've got
a bunch of constituents that had a disservice by the

(01:13:00):
very own party those idiots are supporting. And you take
that either way, you know, because I said idiots are supporting. Yeah,
Democrats were idiots for supporting a party that doesn't look
up for their best interest. But you know what, Marjorie
Tayler Green's making the same claim over here, and I
got a backer on it. You know, she's not wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
So this is wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
It has been an ongoing problem.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
No, I get here there. And but here's the thing.
You know, you get the everyday people that you know,
I always talk about this, that they need to step
up and realize that they're not being represented in Washington,
they're not being represented in their state capitals for crying
out loud, especially whenever you get a candidate who's got
mountains of money behind them, especially money that didn't come

(01:13:43):
from their home district. They're not representing you as the individual,
you know. But and to want to run these types
of people out of office because well they don't support Trump.
It's like, well, we support Trump based on issues. I
think if Trump's wrong, we should be able to call
him out and say that he's wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
Yeah, but at the end of the day, as a
elected representative, you're not there to represent Trump and his agenda,
the party agenda. You're representing people that live in a
geographic location for crind out loud, or a state you
know what I'm saying. A district or state. Yeah, yeah,
not not party and not you know, the agenda of
whoever happens to be in the White House just because
you share the same party. Now, if there are agenda

(01:14:22):
ligns with yours and the people you represent, that's perfectly fine,
and in many cases that will be the case. But
you will find instances where that may maybe not maybe
may not be the case in every instance, and you
should be able to differ in those moments without being
you know, a difficult person or being ostracized.

Speaker 6 (01:14:39):
And that's what we have nowadays. Oh, they disagree with
me on that one issue.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
We need to ostracize them and spend millions of dollars
to get somebody else elected, wasting money. You know, at
the end of the day, you elect somebody who can
end up turning on you anyway or disagree with you
down the road, and now you've got to spend seven
eight million dollars to kick them out of office.

Speaker 6 (01:14:56):
It's an endless cycle.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
So are you seeing an increase in hostile in DC?
I mean there was always hostilities, Okay, you can go
back way back in the day, you know, the eighties
and seventies and stuff. There's always going to be hostilities
at the Capitol building with Congress towards each other, hostilities
within the party, infighting. But has it increased do you
think significantly since over the last say, ten fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
I don't know. I think I think we see more
of it because of social media. But at the same time,
I think people are in boldant because they realized nobody,
especially if you have position of power and authority, no
one's going to really come after you unless you'd commit
a heinous crime.

Speaker 6 (01:15:37):
No one's really going to come after you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
And if they do, you can always be like, oh,
they're targeting me because it's political, you know, so people
are in boltant to do more, I think, and push
the en bomp a little bit these days, you know,
as about elected officials, and of course what happens is
that the citizenry follows that. It's like, well, if they're
inboltant to say this and do this, well I can
go a little bit further and do it and do
a little bit more, you know, and I don't have

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to worry about being being even remotely civil like a
member of Congress has to do at times pretend to
be civil. Uh, member of society, they don't have to be.
They can be the most vulgar and evil and vile
that they want to be, and they have every quote
unquote right to do that, right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with the social media there's been
a lot more hostilities from civilized society, if you want
to call it civilized. But yeah, some of the things
that are set on social media and the way they
go at it with each other, they could tone it
down a little bit or become a little bit more
respectable to each other.

Speaker 8 (01:16:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Discussions are one thing. But you know, again to ad
hominems and things like that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
Because yeah, right, here in my home county, Sullivan County, Tennessee.
We have a few the Republicans that are that are
doing just that. You know, they think that being a
firebrand by lying about people, by doing whisper campaigns, uh,
you know, misleading the public and being outraged whenever they
want something. Their way is is it being a leader
or being an effective elected official? You're you're not being

(01:16:57):
effective at all. You're ostracizing people and you're making people
pretty pretty upset. And we're having that going on in
our county, by the way, and it's only heating up
now that twenty twenty six is an election here. But
you know, we have Republicans that do the same thing,
and it's childish and they don't they feel that they
don't have to actually go out and talk about real issues,
you know, or talk about the behind the scenes you

(01:17:19):
know facts, if you will, they can go out and
just mislead people and get them outraged. They'll never look
at anything if you outrage them, spin them up and
tell them that somebody else is the problem. Well, now
I've distracted you. You're going to focus on somebody else
being the problem, not looking.

Speaker 6 (01:17:33):
At what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
What you're referring to is are called emotional appeal, right,
So if I can appeal to your sense of emotions
and get you riled up and angry and frustrated at
this guy, you won't be paying attention to me in
the crop I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
Pulling exactly right. It's smoking mirrors, if you will, in
another way of saying it. But we also have people,
and of course, being in the Bible Belt, we have
people that do it from a religious standpoint. They claim
the the mantle of the quote good Christian. And what
I mean by that is they're going to let everybody
know how good of a Christian they are. Anybody talks
about them is gonna let them know so and so
is a good Christian, all this stuff. So they claim

(01:18:08):
that mantle the high ground of the good Christian. Now
Jesus is on my side, So now I can level
attacks at anybody I want, but you can't come back
at me because I'm the good Christian.

Speaker 6 (01:18:19):
Jesus is on my side.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
And people kind of look at that and say, well,
so and so is a good Christian. Why is this
person attacking them? Well, first off, they established themselves as
the quote good Christian in the campaign, they leveled the attacks.
This person is merely responding. You didn't see that because
you claim that this person is the good Christian in
the race, and therefore they're infallible in your eyes. They
snowed you, and that happens in the Bible. Bell on

(01:18:43):
a I don't know, on a mass scale, it's dangerous.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
I don't like that. I've seen that before. People people
appeal to people's other people's religious beliefs and stuff, and
you're right, they do. They do just that, and it's
disarming them. It's what they're doing. They're trying to disarm
their potential constituents. So that though or or just people
in general, people and sales might do it and stuff
like that, and it's just just something you're you're a

(01:19:08):
person you're working with or people you're working with, so
they see you in a better light than you actually
hold yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
Yeah, I know, Candadates has sent out like a lot
of mailers that, you know, dis appealed to people's religious
you know, beliefs or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:19:21):
And I had people and I was at different events.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
You know, this was a few several years ago, and
people talk about that particular candidate and it's like, Oh,
they're such a good candidate and they're a good Christian,
I'm voting for them. It's like, hold on a minute,
why are you voting for them?

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
Have you seen the mail or they sent out? I've
seen the maller. What else do you know about this candidate?
Do you know about this, this, this, and all these issues,
all the past legal issues, and have you heard about
all these things that they've said about people. No, I
haven't seen any of that, but you know they this mailer, Oh,
it looks really good, and they wouldn't send that out.

Speaker 6 (01:19:52):
I think they're authentic.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
It's like that one mailer has got you locked in
to vote for this person whenever the election is not
for another several months away.

Speaker 6 (01:19:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Know.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
And it's like people lock themselves in that way and
they won't look for the other candidate. It's a mentality.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
You do have to weigh your options, you do. You
have to always question, You always got to question people,
Always question authority, always question people and their intentions. Yeah,
some of the best people in the world. I don't
know what it is. I don't know. I have a mother.
I love my mom, But you would always gravitate to
the worst of people. And I've seen people do this.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
The scam artists are the best talkers. The scam artists
are the nicest people you ever gonna meet, you know,
and they know how to tell you a chameleon man,
so you'll get These guys are very observant. If you
got a little tick, like say you put your hand
to your brow a lot or something, they will mimic
that simply because it creates familiarity with you. And if
you see, yes, they mirror you. And if they mirror you,

(01:20:48):
then you'll feel a sense of familiarity with them and
begin to like them. And so they use that against you.
And car salesmen are the best of this. I mean
not just car sales salesmen in general, or people that
got an agenda. You know, they're going they're going to
use these sorts of techniques.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Car sales mean, do you driving a
car that you're looking to trade. They'll tell you about
the car that they had, the same exact one, and
they'll tell you about all the problems that they had
about that. Oh it's seven get your car seven eight
years old? Well that's whenever I started having issues with mine. Oh,
here's the problem, and they kind of talk you into
the Yeah, I think I'm gonna start having problems with
my car. I got to get rid of it because
the expert, the car salesman, told me, you know, this

(01:21:27):
is about the time they're gonna start having issues. So
people end up getting rid of their car when they
don't really need to.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
Yeah. I think a lot of a lot of places
go gravitated away from the hype pitched sales and stuff
because it becomes such common knowledge that they realized we
got lay off.

Speaker 4 (01:21:42):
Yeah, they became characters as themselves, if you will.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
I think that movie there was a movie called Used
Cars way back in the day, back in the early eighties.
I think had Kurt Russell in it. I don't know
if you remember, yeah or not. I think it's a
funny movie. Man, it was funny. And he said that,
he says, you don't have because they're trying because the
owner died, but they didn't at anybody know he died
because they're trying to keep the car a lot and
so now everybody had to become a salesman because they
had to move cars fast. And he's like, you don't
have to sell car. Oh yeah, to do is get

(01:22:07):
some selves, get their button, the seat. It will sell itself.
I think that's pretty much it.

Speaker 6 (01:22:11):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
You're there to buy a car. It's just a matter
of figuring out which one you want.

Speaker 6 (01:22:14):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
Yeah, but you know the different tactics at the years,
you know, to try to upsell you or whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:22:20):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:22:20):
Yeah, I'm good, I know what I want.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
I'm good. My wife likes to tell you about the
time she went into a car lot to buy a
car and they told her they didn't even throwing the
gas tank. Oh, they gave you a gas tank. She
was funny, She's like, what are you ridiculous car and
go anywhere without a gas tank?

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
Even I know that I gave you Ford's four tires
and some wheels with it, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know how bad car I don't.
I avoid car salesman as a role, but uh, you know,
I don't. I don't like to go to major car lots.
I like to go to smaller car lots because they're
more realistic, the more down to earth, and the major
ones I just don't. I don't want to deal with
they're nonsense, and that whole thing about well, you know,
there's a five hundred dollars processing fee and it's unavoidable.
But yeah, I think your processing fee and stick it. Right.

(01:23:02):
The little guy here was in charge of me five
hundred dollars just to run a little bit of paperwork around. Right.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
Yeah, the car the used car dealership down the road
is gonna sell me basically the same car a couple
of years older, for almost half the price.

Speaker 6 (01:23:13):
And there's no big five hundred dollars processing fee, that's
for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Yeah, a bunch of nonsense. I just don't like to
deal with it, so I just don't go.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Yeah, I got out of get new cars. I mean
I used to trade every few years when I was
much younger. And of course, you know, you get you
get to the point where you're upside down. It's like, man,
this car truck's not worth what I'm paying for, you know,
forget it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
No, No, that's that's that's the thing I have. One
guy tried to tell me just because they had older cars.
I'm like, wow, these cars, Yeah, they're not very much money.
I mean, you know, twenty five hundred and three thousand
dollars but they're all junk.

Speaker 8 (01:23:45):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
He goes, well, you're not buying a car, you're buying credit.
And I go credit ain't gonna get me from point
A to point B, so I've got to think about
another option here.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
Yeah, don't try to be philosophical here, my friend. Whenever
you were talking about dollars and cents, I'm sorry. The
bottom line is the bottom line.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Right, Yeah, you're trying to boy credit. Yeah, don't give
a credit. I want I want wheels, right.

Speaker 4 (01:24:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:24:08):
I remember one year I went went to trade and
it was yeah, I got I got there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
It was later in the evening, but you know they
were still open, probably another thirty forty five minutes or whatever,
and all the salesman I saw him up and the
you know, they were all like huddled in. They were closing,
closing up shop. They're all about to leave, and this
one guy was like went out there. He's like, you know,
he came out and started talking to me, and he's
like about twenty minutes into it, and I was like, yeah,

(01:24:34):
this is what I want. This is the vehicle want.

Speaker 6 (01:24:36):
I want to do the trade whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
And it mind you, they were closing up shop and
I had to come back the next day finalize everything,
and he was telling me like, yeah, all all those
guys that were up there were like, yeah, you didn't
look like a buyer.

Speaker 6 (01:24:45):
You're not gonna You're not serious. And they're like.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
He's like, well, I'm the one laughing to the bank
today because they they're like they're they feel like they're stupid,
you know. I'm like, you're absolutely right. Never never assume
somebody's not gonna buy something just because they're a younger person, older,
or whatever the case may be. Look if you can't
afford it, because they may very well be able to
buy the entire car lot for crying alone.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Yeah, you never know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
There was a guy one time told me he was over.
He was in Arkansas. He's at a Walmart distribution center
and he's sitting there. They couldn'tunload him because they had
computers went down or something. He was sitting there on
the steps wondering what he's gonna do with the rest
of his day because he's not getting unloaded. This old
crappy pickup truck comes pulling up next to him, and
old man jumps out wearing coveralls and stuff. He's like, hey,

(01:25:28):
y' all doing today. He's like, well, you know, I
guess I'm not doing so well. I'm like, you know,
he because you're not getting uloaded. We'll see you about that. Well,
he goes inside, comes back out and he said, well,
I'm sorry, man, there's nothing I can do to help
you out. But hey, you know what, my name is,
Sam Walton. Then it turns out as the owner of Walmart,
for Cripe's sake, drove up in like a oh, beat
up pickup truck and covered in coveralls and stuff. He
would have never known, You'd never thought of as the

(01:25:49):
owner of Walmart. Yeah, so you never know who who
you're gonna meet, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
You now, Walmart sells a bunch of Chinese crap. And
then you know also they have, you know, some of
these sections over there. They got sex toys right on
the shelves there in Walmart, Like sick, are you serious?

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Yeah, So they took all my AMMO and my gun's
down and they put up sex toys in place.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
Right and it's like, oh, adult massage or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:26:16):
It's like right on full display. You go go to Walmart,
take a look, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Actually, to be honest with you, I stay away from Walmart.
I absolutely have to have something to go into Walmart.

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
Yeah, I've been in there a few times. Of course,
look at look at their website too, right on their website.
But my thing is like, it's supposed to be a
family oriented organization. Yeah now, and now you look at it,
it's like, yeah, not.

Speaker 6 (01:26:40):
So much, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
So they got a head chop out back, you get
all your pre Paara Fernilia right right, adult movies and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
And you know, yeah, just come on now. I mean,
I'm not saying that there's there may be a place
for that type of stuff, you know, but not at
a Walmart.

Speaker 6 (01:26:58):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
No, that's the thing about it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
It's kind of like doing podcasting and stuff. Sure you
can go on the internet. You can swear and curse
up a storm on the internet. So I do podcasting
with Billy. We had the American America talk show up
that one's down right now, did a trucking show with
Sean for for a long time, and we always made
a point that we're not going to swear and curse
on our shows. Now Here we're doing interustrial radio, so

(01:27:22):
we're going to swear and curse. Uh, it's just if
I'm going to do something that that I'm trying to
appeal to the public, I certainly don't want to swear
and curse in it up because I want people listening
to understand that if you're listening to one of my shows,
you can have the kids in the room. It's okay.
You know, I don't know who's gonna hear.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
Us, right, and we may be discussing a topic that
you know, some people may need to hear. And if
you're sitting there dropping F bomb and s you know whatever,
and inserted any curse word, people are going to tune
out pretty quick.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Yeah, Yeah, it's disrespectful.

Speaker 6 (01:27:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
So I could see in some circumstances that you know,
Wright scenarios, right audience, you know, using an explicative for
effect you know, certain audience obviously, but not not applyde
audiences for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
So dot Tomorrow's Thanksgiving and uh, we're doing a political
talk show here. So have you heard about the book
Schools across the country are twisting the meaning of Thanksgiving
this holiday season season?

Speaker 6 (01:28:26):
Every year we hear we hear about that, right pretty much?

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Yeah, Fox News for example, that at the University of
California Davis, the so called California History Society Science Project,
hosted an event last week called Decolonizing Thanksgiving in the Classroom.
I don't know what that means. I have no clue
what decolonizing Thanksgiving means. We will discuss reframing classroom practices
and rituals about Thanksgiving. A description now past event reads,

(01:28:51):
seeing perspectives from Turtle Island. The name of North America
used by indigenous people will help us decolonize Thanksgiving and
spark new conversations about how to authentically make meaning of
this holiday with our students. I'm what.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
Yeah, come on?

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
What is wrong with so now?

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
People? Are?

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
People are trying to change the whole heart of what
Thanksgivings about. And you're talking about we DEI nonsense and yeah, yeah,
this is our leftist liberal schools.

Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
Hard at work, oh of course, yeah, hard at work
doing nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
Folks.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
You're listening to the commissense Conservatives right here on WSMN
fifteen ninety and ninety five point three FM. We come
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Speaker 6 (01:29:34):
Eastern.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
Colonel Chris White is off tonight. He is off at
a fundraiser for his v BFW. But he'll be back
next week folks, for your regular listeners and watchers out there,
just so you know. But anyway, John, we got them
what what less and less than twenty minutes out there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Yeah, we got about nineteen minutes, eighteen minutes.

Speaker 6 (01:29:51):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:29:53):
So here's here's another story here from Tennessee. And this
is again from Fox News. It's from their opinion, David Marcus,
don't be so sure socialists can't win in the heartland
often bans Ben.

Speaker 6 (01:30:05):
I just talked about her a minute ago.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
Competitive showing and special election raises questions about GP midterm strategy.
If things appear to be tightening up in a congressional
special election between GP not Many Matt Van Epps and
Democrat Afton Ben, known as the AFC of Tennessee, in
a congressional district that overwhelmed me voted for President Trump
or President Donald Trump. What's odd is not so much

(01:30:28):
that the race is is in question. Special elections are
always odd and unpredictable birds, but rather that Ben is
a far left socialist and a part of the country
where conventional wisdom says a socialist should have no chance.
She's the idiot that went into, like I just said
a few minutes ago, the governor's office and had to
be removed in twenty nineteen. But running against Matt Van

(01:30:49):
Epps acquaintance of mine, I want to say, a friend,
but acquaintance of mine who we will have on the
show at some point. I'm hoping, oh army veteran by
the way, so hopefull have him on the show. I've
talked to him a few times on social media and
a couple of emails, but never been able to square
him a way to be able to be on the show.
But at some point I'm sure we'll grab him.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
So how do you think somebody can come into a
predominantly conservative area and start winning people over. Do you
think they falsely represent themselves, kind of align with their
ideologies a little bit, but then later on start twisting
things around once they're elected.

Speaker 4 (01:31:26):
Perhaps, But I think in this instance you have this
was what was Congressman Green's off office or seat, and
he resigned, and of course I think people were upset
with that, and at the same time the amount of
money being spent by some of the establishment folks Matt
van Apps. A lot of the establishment folks don't like him.
So I think a lot of people may stay at home.

(01:31:47):
A lot of the hardline conservertives may stay at home.
I don't know. And of course, you know, these special
elections tend to get people genned up that are you know,
usually on the fringe that can't win mainstream elections, the
regular elections. I'll come out and force and these types
of elections, whereas a lot of regular everyday Republicans will
stay at home because whether they they think they have

(01:32:07):
in the bag or they they're working, they're doing other things,
they're not paying attention to elections. Whereas the left, they
are going to focus on this election is show up
and droves for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Yeah, you just you just struck a cord rate there
right now. The left are going to show up in
numbers any election because they're trying to get it back,
they're trying to regain control, and they're going to encourage people.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
The left is very strong and good at organizing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:33):
Yes, they are.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
The right. I think we tend to be independent thinkers, right,
and we tend to not collaborate or get collective on
the matter. In fact, uh, you know, they come to
my attention here not too long ago that during the
last mayoral race here in Nashville, New Hampshire, the Right
could have beat it. The Right could have won the

(01:32:54):
mayor's race, but they only showed up one out of
nine voters if they had if they had two out
of nine voter as they would have been. So it's
interesting to think that the section that that Nashville probably
has more Republicans or more conservatives on the on the
voter registry, they just don't come out to vote right.

Speaker 6 (01:33:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:16):
And another thing is you get a lot of Republican
parties at the local level, counties, et cetera, that generally
don't go out and recruit younger, younger people or new
new blood to come in and be active in their
party because a lot of times it's proximity to power.
They want to have that association with the person in power.
And of course, if you're coming in being competition for
me for a position, well, all of a sudden, you know, now,

(01:33:37):
all of a sudden, there's two people competing for the
affection or the attention of that member of Congress or
that that leader. Uh So they tend to not want
to recruit new people to come in. I think that
hurts the Republican Party in the long run because we
don't try to promote young people. We don't try to
go out and I say recruit them, mentor them, and
get them to the position where they can actually be

(01:33:58):
effective in the future. Instead, we leave them out to
their own devices on the cold, if you will. And
then the Democrats, as you said, they organize.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Yeah, they do. They stoop it right up. But they
appeal to younger people because they offer younger people a
false sense of hope. You know, your government's here to
support you, Your governments here to make sure you're successful
in like, which isn't true. But these younger people look
at the government going, I don't know how I'm going
to make it in life. I'm not sure I even
understand it. So when they're telling them the government's going
to be there to provide for them, it's appealing to

(01:34:27):
younger people. Republicans are going out there, going government giving
you jack bolly, go out there and work for a living.
You go out there and you get it. You weren't it.
You know that doesn't sound so appealing because it's there's
no security involved.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
Right, Yeah, you see how hard it is to actually
you know, make a live in these days, and of
course to get by. Inflation's out of control, no matter,
no matter who's in power right now, you know, if
if I can get something for free, you know, hey,
why not you're going to tell me I got to
go work. That's that's the that's the fix.

Speaker 6 (01:34:54):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
I if I can get it two thousand dollars or
ten or two thousand dollars a month for free over here,
why would I not support that?

Speaker 8 (01:35:01):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:35:01):
And that's the mentality of the left.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Yeah, hey, you know what, if you're gonna pay me,
I can game all day. I don't have to give
up my childhood thirty years though, still moving your thumbs
across the joystick, right, don't that don't pan out?

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:35:14):
Oh absolutely, But you know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
I just assult that most of our younger people that
may be listening, But it's true, you got to grow
up at some point in time and put the joystick
to I know a lot of people understand. I see
I see some phenomenal young people, by the way. I've
seen young people that get out there and really do it.
But the point is is how the left appeals to
the young people. That's the whole point in this and uh,
we do have the Young Republicans and organizations like this

(01:35:38):
right to try to coach young people into politics and
understanding of how things work.

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
But you also have to think about this, and I've
seen it in my Northeast Tennessee many many times. Young
especially just since I've been politically active since leaving the army.
We set up a Young Republicans in a county. It's
active for maybe a year, and then it just kind
of goes thro by the wayside because you have the
main party that pretty much ostracizes them for the most part.
You know, they don't want to bring in the new

(01:36:05):
young people, which is sad because again that's competition for
me for my position or for the affection with the
person in power, so they'd rather just not deal with them.
And of course the right for decades have written off
the younger generation and say, oh, well they're young and
dumb liberals as they're you know, while they're kids, but
whenever they get older, they'll be a conservative. And that's

(01:36:25):
not the case. People, if you stop becoming conservatives if
they've gotten older, they become a just an adult version
of a liberal versus becoming more conservative.

Speaker 6 (01:36:33):
In many respects.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
There is a thing about that that people eventually evolve
to becoming a conservative. They begin to understand and realize, however,
that's not what you should be depending on. You should
still be interact And the thing that bothers me the
most taught is this gender gap, this whole thing about
Oh those young kids. You know, they're never gonna mount
to anything, you know, this resentment for the youth. That
is what I'm getting out here. And I remember when

(01:36:56):
I was a kid. You know, an old man pointing
a finger at me. I walked into a shop. He
points finger ap me and goes right there, that mop
head right there. See, that's the ruin of America. That
kid will never mind. I'm like, who are you? I
don't even know you, and your assaulted me. I'm twelve
years old and you're telling me I'm a piece of crap. Thanks.
You know, this is not the way to approach your youth.
You know, you got to jump out there and appreciate them.

(01:37:17):
You know, you can't sit there and make accusations. There's
a lot of brilliant young people out there. Some of
them not so brilliant. Some of them are tidy eaters.
They've always existed. But for the most part, there's a
lot of brilliant young people that are very, very capable.
Knocking them down doesn't help. You're supposed to elevate people
and help them, you know, give my hands up.

Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
Well, you get a lot of a lot of adults
that will just discount young people or whatever. They're just this,
They're just that, Da da da da, And it's like
what they're really saying is, Wow, this young person is
actually a go getter, smarter and brighter than I am,
going to do better things than I've ever done in
my life, and actually doing better things that I'm doing
and have ever done in my life. It's a jealousy
thing for some people, I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
It's jealous is a lot of it. There used parents
out there. I remember, you know, younger days parents out there.
It's good enough for me to work in that factory.
It's good enough for the little bread over there working
that fact. No get educated, Yeah, you know you want
because you're he's the next level. This is your lineage.
You don't want to sit there and knock them down.
You don't hold your own kid back. You elevate your

(01:38:16):
kid you know, you get them to the next level,
so he can do it for his kids, so on
and so forth.

Speaker 4 (01:38:21):
There's some people that are warped mentality. If my kid
does better than me, you know, somehow I'm less than them.
And it's like, no, put them on your shoulders and
let them start from where you're at, and you give
them a leg up. You know, maybe you didn't have
millions of dollars to give them, but guess what, as
far as you've made it in life right now, that's
that should be your starting point for your kid, and

(01:38:41):
you push them from that point. I'm not don't have
kids or anything like that, you know, So I'm not
going to try to pretend that I know everything obviously,
which I do. Uh, the starting point for your kids
should be where you where you leave off. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
No, you're you're You're absolutely right.

Speaker 8 (01:38:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
The American Indians, what was it. I remember a sitting
bowl and he was having talks, and so he was
of the Sioux Indian and he made a statement. He says,
I'll watch you white folks. You watch you white people
you be rate your children and treat them like dogs.
And I can't understand that. He says, we sue Indy
and we treat our kids to be grown ups because

(01:39:18):
we expect them to grow up and be do adult
things right. And the mentality was, and this is a
working philosophy. Is this actually works? You know, this isn't
just you know, made up stuff. You got to talk
up to your kids, not down to your kids. You
got to elevate your kids, not lower your kids. You know,
you got to give them some hope and encouragement, but
don't hold their hand the whole way. Push them to
take the risk, push them to do more, and let

(01:39:39):
them fall so they can pick themselves back up and
encourage them to do it again. But figure out how
to do it right, you know. And I think that's
that's what we're lacking. Sometimes we discard them. We'll go
figure it out. You know, I don't have time to
teach you. And I run into people like that.

Speaker 8 (01:39:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
When I was a kid, I sought it out with
my father. I was twelve years old and says, why
is my brother always get to work on the car
with my dad?

Speaker 6 (01:40:00):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
So I crawled up underneath there. I wanted to know
how cars work too, I was always curious anyway. And next,
you know, my brother's like, uh, Dad, what John's here?
So well can I go? You stay in? John? You know,
I was like, so he didn't even want to be there.
I'm like, heck, yeah, man, get out of here. I
got this. I'm heading riches and stuff. And I learned
how to work on cars with my father, but he

(01:40:21):
was willing to teach me because I wanted to learn. Yeah,
they you know, and I think we should encourage our
kids to learn. If you know how to fix cars,
teach your children about cars. They need to know this.
Don't don't leave them subject to mechanics and stuff out there.
You don't know. You know, some of these guys are
ripoffs and they're gonna get screwed in life. And I
gonna be able to get ahead because they're getting cheated
out of their money. Now I tell my daughter how

(01:40:43):
to change you off for Cripe's sake.

Speaker 6 (01:40:46):
Oh absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:40:48):
And it's funny as that they'll teach you, you know,
or or you're going to some places and they like,
you know, oh yeah, we changing they all doing this,
doing all this, but we found this little thing wrong
over here. You know, you might be able to last
a little bit longer, but we need to get this
thing fixed soon. You know, it's always the upsell of something.
Yeah so, and then I don't know any better. You
don't know any better.

Speaker 6 (01:41:06):
They can take advantage of it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
In nineteen eighties, when the national magazines actually took a
car and had a group of mechanics go through, that's
the mechanics go through. If it needed a belt, it
got a belt change if it needed you know, they
changed all the hoses. You know, it didn't matter me
to we want all the hoses change, when all the
filters changed, we want everything changed completely, and oil change.
We do across the country trip. So they would take
it into shops across the country, right, and hey, you

(01:41:27):
know what it's making kind of a funny soun. I'm
not familiar with you. You take a look at it
for me. Well, they come back and go, well, probably
because his belts broke. What belt do you mean? You
look at the belt. You can see the guy cut
the belt. You know, stupid stuff like this was really
going on. You know they're like, you know x amount
of I don't remember what the statistics were, but X
amount of shops done this compared to x amount of
shops were honest, right and yeah yeah, there was a

(01:41:50):
lot of dishonest people out there.

Speaker 6 (01:41:52):
Oh absolutely, yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:41:54):
And then they try to point out, well, no, no, no,
you got to look right here, you had this little.

Speaker 6 (01:41:57):
You know, and it's like, by the way, I'm so
and so with you sixty minutes whatever it.

Speaker 8 (01:42:01):
Is, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
Yeah, No, they didn't call him out. They just went
on their way. They just wanted to get the statistics.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
Just oh yeah, I've seen it where they called him out.
Oh step in fatch No, no, no, no, right here
race yeah, yeah, nonsense, Oh yeah, you got caught.

Speaker 6 (01:42:19):
So anyway, we got a few minutes left there we do.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
So Rand Paul is warning President Trump. How did he
how did he say? Did you see this?

Speaker 7 (01:42:28):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
Go ahead, go with it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
Let's see Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky when President Donald
Trump that the Mega Movement could dissolve due to two things.
What do you think those two things are? Todd Uh well,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:42:41):
Maybe if you uh I just got nobody nobody else
had the movement, you know, that could be one thing.
Uh another would be if you continue to ostracize people
that that they even agree with you on most things.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Actually, he's just pointing out as simple as uh, if
if he chooses to invade Venezuela. And I didn't think
Trump was signaling to invade Venezuela. I know he has
an interest stop Venezuela and drug trades, and I know
that state sanctioned, so he's involved in that. But I
don't know that he was actually thinking about invading Venezuela.
But he pointed out if he chooses to invade Venezuela

(01:43:17):
or continue sending American tax dollars to Ukraine, could break
that bond. Do you think that's true?

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Who knows.

Speaker 4 (01:43:27):
With the way people are nowadays, you know, some people
will support him no matter what he does. Some people
will never support him no matter what he does.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
I value Rand Paul. I like Rand Paul. He is
a very very intelligent man, very well informed. He's been
in it for a long time, and he is not
the enemy here.

Speaker 4 (01:43:46):
To make him in the enemy of the American people
or whatever, just because President Trump doesn't like you personally,
I think it does all of us a disservice.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
No, it concerns me when I see the mega you know,
in the mega movement. I see people if Trump calls
out and Paul, people are attacking Ram Paul Trump cause
the calls out Thomas Manson, people are and I mean
I don't mean attacking him like physically, I mean, you know,
verbally attacking him. I meat social media.

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
Two of the biggest supporters of the Constitution in the
House of Representatives, and you're going to attack them and
say that these are horrible people, traders and all this stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:44:15):
I don't think so people.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
Yeah, that's that's where it gets concerning Uh, well.

Speaker 4 (01:44:19):
He's against you. It's just like, these are people who
support the Constitution. Therefore they support you. Whether you agree
with him on the policy is besides the point. Constitution
first and foremost, and then everything else secondary. So whenever
it comes to governing.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
So for me, if Ram Paul is saying that if
Trump invades Venezuela, there must be something he knows about
behind the scenes that we're not hearing, and he's signaling something,
and I can understand maybe he might. I don't know.
I don't think that. I don't know if I'd agree
with him invading Venezuela, but uh, and I don't know
what just cause he would have to invade Venezuela. So

(01:44:55):
I have a hard time with I mean, how are
you going to go over there and just evade the country.
They're not they're not declaring an active war against us.
I mean, we do have drug trades coming out of there,
and that's one thing. They handle the drug trades. But
to go fade a whole country over it, I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (01:45:10):
Right, but people committing crimes. Committing crimes doesn't necessarily mean
it's an active war. Like the drug coming to this country.

Speaker 6 (01:45:17):
Doesn't necessarily mean it's an active war.

Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
If it's state sponsored something like that, yeah, you can
make an argument, I imagine to some degree.

Speaker 6 (01:45:23):
But is it an active war necessarily?

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
Yeah, you would need it's a criminal act, But is
it an active war?

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
I'm not saying drugs are good, drugs are bad, but
I'm just saying, is that is it an active war?

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
That's That's that's what we got to talk about exactly.
I don't think you have to have an active war
to use policing with the military, but if you're going
to invade another country, I think you're committing an active war.

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
So, you know, if the drug boats are international waters
and refusing to stop, and you've you've escalated, You did
your escalation of force.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
You know that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
That's one thing. But just shooting, just starting to shoot
at them, I don't like that idea. Don't just start
shooting all. Give them the opportunity to stop, turn themselves
in if they don't. You know, whatever rules or engagement
are in place, I think you should follow those.

Speaker 2 (01:46:10):
Yes, we got to follow protocols and stuff. I have
no sympathy for drug drug draw traffickers or drug dealers. No, no, no, no,
But I want I'm saying it is some of these
people are like, oh my god, this is terrible and
due process. I'm not sure due process applies if they're
foreigners and international waters and they're threat to the United
States of America. But we do have international laws and
things like that to take into consideration.

Speaker 4 (01:46:32):
But are they committing an active war or is it
just a criminal act?

Speaker 6 (01:46:37):
See that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
Can we just start shooting at people because they're comitting
a criminal act if they're not actively shooting at somebody else?
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
So on the drug runners, Trump's argument is that these
people are dangerous and run paramilitary units, so it's difficult
to manage them as far as apprehension and things like
that could be very dangerous. So he's using harsher tactics
to me, seeing these guys are getting blown out of
the water if in fact they're truly drug traffickers come

(01:47:04):
to the United States of America. I just don't have
any sympathy for him at all because we heard as
a nation because of it. I mean, this isn't This
isn't something like, you know, you slap somebody on the
wrist for they're feeding drugs to our fifth graders. So
feeding drugs to people in our society, that's causing detriment
and har harm to our society. It's tippling us as

(01:47:25):
a nation because we're funding government money for rehab centers
to try to get these we're basically feeding into the
drug trades instead of fighting against a drug trade. So
this is why I like Donald Trump's tactics.

Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
Yeah, but let's let's say John's out on an international
waters on a nice fishing trip, and then obviously they
start shooting at you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
I hope that doesn't happen because I'm not going to
be in onas I'm wondering while I'm there. But ladies
and gentlemen, that is our bit for tonight. We hope
you got something out of it, a little bit discussion,
a little bit of interesting stuff maybe, and well, have
your house, the happy Thanksgiving and we will catch you
next week, same time, same place,