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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
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(00:24):
Sense Conservatives are here to help bring you back to reality.
Now your hosts Chris Wyatt, Todd mckimley, and John Grovin.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
All right, hey, folks, welcome back to the Common Sense Conservatives.
Wednesday night at seven o'clock. It is the Common Sense
Conservatives right here on WSMN fifteen ninety AM and ninety
five point three FM, joined by my co host John Grovener,
Who's hold down the studio there in Nashua, John, how
are you tonight?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I am doing well with Todd, you know, same ol,
same oh. Here in New Hampshire, day taking it day
by day, you know, oh, Roger.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Rd oh, we got we got Colonel Chris White and
his his special guest there, Pikachu. Colonel Colonel Chris White,
how are you, sir?

Speaker 4 (01:03):
I'm fine, Todd, And just let you know the Pikachu
is in the house tonight. He's gonna keep it straight.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
What is going on with this? You're not walking around
with your cell phone looking at it in the middle
of the street. Are you trying to find a little
bit story here?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Come on now?

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Oh no, no, no, Pikachu, I'm big fan. We all
went to Japan for the twenty nineteen Rugby World Cup.
I didn't really understand the whole Pokemon craze all these
years later, and uh, now I get my little kiddie
and I get the Pokemon. So Pikachu, you know that
Detective Pikachu movie. That was a funny movie. Pikachu's my
buddy now. So I actually picked him up in Durban's,

(01:40):
South Africa. Was at the airport about to get on
a plane, and they were selling these things. I'm like,
that is an awesome stuffed animal. So Pikachu makes an
appearance on my show up occasionally. He's never made an
appearance on this program, so I thought we just, you know,
hoist him up and say hello, there we go. Good new.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I don't know if our guess is available yet just yet.
If he is, it is Colonel Orski me it's Chris Neeman.
He is a Army veteran and he's chief executive officer
founder of Arsenal Government and Public Affairs Group. Whenever he's
ready out.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
There, he is Chris.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I almost called you, Colonel, because Colonel Chris White is
the one of our hosts. Sir, welcome to the show.
Great to have you. First off, introduce yourself to everybody,
Tell a little bit about your background, and then we'll
get into what you do on a regular basis with Arsenal.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Sure, Todd, Great to see you.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Thanks for having me on. Gentlemen, It's great to be here.
How do I describe this, I guess the most basically said, so,
I'm a consultant, but I came from Illinois suburbs. I
was a I was a post nine eleven enlist ee.
So let's go back just a step further. In high school,
I got C grades, I had long coigner t shirts,

(02:44):
good night, there we go, and and my favorite class
was probably the government class. I remember two thousand. The
first election I voted in was was I voted for
George W. Bush. And part of the reason I liked
him is because everyone else didn't around me, you know,
And there's something about that. I was just kind of like, yeah,
you know, I.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Liked him.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
So that was the first election I voted, and nine
to eleven happened. I was kind of just drifting, didn't
really you know, I was in junior college at the time.
Nine to eleven was one of those transformational things. So
and listened in the US Army Reserve after that and was,
you know, in boot camp, deployed du Iraq for a year,
and then after that political science for school. I intern

(03:26):
in Congress of Manzula's office from Illinois. So I glanced
at Washington, DC kind of that picture and from their
political science grad school, didn't work experience, and moved to
d C. And from twenty twelve until now, I came
up through the veteran service organization world as a legislative
right person, and then from twenty fifteen and on, I

(03:49):
was essentially been I guess we'll call this an accidental entrepreneur.
You know, I walked out of the boss. I walked
out is a good friend of the date of Metro.
I I just got a little disenchanted one day in
my last job and walked out and never was an
employee ever again. And it was creative too. Part of
it was organic frictions. And I've been essentially a private

(04:09):
sector lobbyist, public relations person ever since. And it's been
an adventure of euphoria and certain successful indicators and the
chaos that comes with that, just some mistakes and business
conflicts and yeah. So I guess I'm a swamp survivor,
and I guess i'd call myself. I consider myself independent

(04:30):
these days, but I've always been conservative. I've always been
common sence. I've vote Republican ninety five percent of the time.
And that's it. That's my background.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
There we go, and I see you on Fox News
on a semi regular basis talking about veterans issues and
things like that. How did you get into that or
is it just kind of organic with everything you have
going on there?

Speaker 5 (04:50):
So you know, it's interesting. When I was at my
last kind of job, I worked at I reckon Afghanistan
Veterans of America, which has done a lot for veterans.
You know, it's nonpartisan. I think we would all right
anyone that kind of observes that they have a little
bit of a left cut to it. I think, you know,
Paul Raikoff would have man he's you know, he's more
of a Democrat figure, and he's he's done a lot
for veterans, and and we don't always uh, you know,

(05:12):
but I very much appreciate things that he's done for veterans.
And and even if he's politically, you know, kind of
on the left, I think a little too far on
the left side, but it is what it is. You know,
there was a lot of media engagement with I v A.
I v A was out there, you know, being able
to do media interviews, testified front of Congress, and so
when I started my own thing, I started from nowhere,

(05:33):
and it was one of those things like you hear
these stories in other sectors. I was watching an old
interview with Chris Cornell recently, and he was talking from
Soundgarden Rest in Peace, and he was talking about like
he's the guys want to be a drummer, and I
just want to play as good as I could, and
and then you know, a band is gonna pick me
up and I'm going to be a drummer in this band.
It didn't work out that way. Then he learned how
to play guitar, and you know, Crease his just you know,

(05:53):
so for me it was kind of like, I want
to do media, but what do I do here? You know,
And I literally like invented a title. I was just like,
I'm a military policy analyst. When I first started doing
my own thing, and so I do commentary, I'd start writing,
and it really was just sort of doing that. You know.
I've had a lot of interesting clients, have had two
kind of part ways with business people, but it's always

(06:15):
been veteran military policy centric at its core. I've evolved
out now it's evolved. Evolved would be kind of a understatement.
I represent two foreign one party, one foreign nation, but
media kind of that kind of came in a little
bit organically, and you know, I've been a public relations person.
I've also I've worked with people that have but a

(06:35):
lot of that is just kind of time and place.
I feel like, you know, Fox News has always been
a little right leaning. Now you know it's I mean,
it's it is what it is. I mean, it's corporate.
I mean it's they're trying to kind of do everything
now right. We want to have them so happy, and
you look at what I mean, we're talking about the
Veterans Day paray. They want to try to put me
in a corner on snap benefits and stuff.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Right, I saw that.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Yeah, but you know, I really got o go down
that road at that moment. But but it was sort
of an extension of what I do. And it's you, gentlemen,
I'm sure can appreciate. You know, media is its own
world of reward and risk, and it's not easy. It's
like its own it's its own stressors of how to
the effort you put in to try to get a

(07:17):
television it's almost like, you know, like an omen like
just you know, it's like God, put me on when
you want me on, and I just but if you
try too hard, it doesn't work, and if you don't
try hard enough, it doesn't work. So it's kind of
like just being, you know, being in the right there
when those opportunities present themselves. So that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I would like to ask before I turn over the colonel,
the two nations that you represent. I think one is
in Africa, right and he in of course, Colonel Chris
White is an Africa expert. By the way. I think
one is an After I saw your pictures you traveled
over there recently, which is kind.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Of cool, and so so I represent among others. I
represent the Federal Republic of Somalia, the Embassy managing government
affairs in Washington, d C. I think primarily right White House,
and I represent the spl MAO, the Sudanese People's Liberation Movement,
Army and opposition. So in this case, this is the party.
The acting party chairman is not the first vice president.

(08:08):
I guess in the hierarchy, the first vice president Rank
Mashar is my client and he's under house arrest. He's
been charged with murder. And for all of you know,
anyone that has familiarity with South Sudan, it's highly Africa
has its own I mean it's you know, we've been
around for two hundred years. Africa is the conflicts. The
party is the North Sudan has a Sudan proper, which

(08:30):
we we kind of look at as North Sudan as
a war.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
South Sudan has never had an national election. It's our
perspective on behalf of the party that it's essentially a uh,
you know, tyrannical run government at the moment, it's a regime.
It's back by China, it's it's economically backed by China,
and the first Vice president essentially under house arrest. So
it's it's kind of an adventurous thing. Someone the other

(08:53):
day was talking to me at the parade. They're like
sleep at night, and I said, I don't really sleep
that well to begin with, but it is next doing
the club, right, you know, it's uh so, it's it's
been interesting. And I represent several public universities and all that,
so it's, you know, we have to be by partisans.
We have to work with both people. I still am
a little vocal. Actually got to talking to you the
other day from the ambassador because I I don't know

(09:15):
if we're allowed to swear on the show. I'm gonna
assume not unless it's a restaur radio. Yeah, correct, right right, so,
but you know it's it's uh, you know, I had
made a politic partisan comment about you know, one of
the Democrat members they were chanting through that capital about
swearing in this uh this the nepotism for this daughter,
this foot whatever, and I just made a comment around
like more Democrats, Shenanigans, something to that extent, and he

(09:37):
made a comment about, you know, we want to make
sure we can work, and we do. So it's we
all have to have our freedom of expression and our
and our and our our morals while also being for
It's it's a balancing act, you know. I can't sit
around and watch people, you know, engage in deformation or
or be not honest about something. But we also we
do have to work with people. You know, I might

(09:57):
need to go through the Form Relations Committee, I might
need to go through these mccress for different things.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
So absolutely, yeah, yes, colonel, if you want to jump
in and general, how we like to do it is
that we start with the colonel. He'll hit a bunch
of questions, it'll come back around and we'll wrap it
up by the end. So colonel, go aheadser.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, that's just his way of putting the job on me.
That's what works. Well. I can empathize with the whole
thing about the media. You know, I don't think my
co hosts know this. They know about the event, but
I confirmed this week the following. So CNN flew me
to Birmingham, Alabama a couple of months ago to be
part of a documentary on South Africa, in particularly the

(10:35):
refugees coming home from South Africa, and so I interviewed
one of the refuges who I know and some of
some of my viewers told me that, well, they're just
doing that. They're supplying you down there so they get
access to your refugee contacts. I said, that's fine. They're
paying for the flight in the hotel, so I mean,
I'll take that. But they they were ernest about putting
me in the interview, and they did an hour forty

(10:55):
five minutes for the refugee and he'll get probably a
couple of minutes in the video. And then we rushed
to a nearby park and sat down and gired up,
and it was kind of awkward. Someone's mowing the grass
and the on air personality, the Irish guy from CNN,
Donio Sullivan, asked me questions. Basically, they were trying to
get me to say that Trump was wrong about the
reftue program, and I refused to bend just to be

(11:19):
on television. It's the truth should win out. So I
did confirm this week that I'm not in the documentary,
and having seen the trailer for the documentary, I'm actually
I'm not heartbroken, and probably I dodged a bullet because
there's gonna be a lot of pissed off people in
South Africa when they see this documentary because I always
told it was about in advance of the G twenty,

(11:39):
but the title I was this misinfomation White Genocide. So
I'm glad that I'm not in it. But anyway, so
I get the point about you never know. Media is
a funny game. So I've never heard Fox call me
yet either, So I don't have to worry about that bullet.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
No, that's very interesting, and I think it may have
been a spiritual protection having you done that, because we
also wouldn't want to be in a project where and
you know it's it's I guess we have to acknowledge it.
And one thing about regardless of what anyone thought about
President Trump, somewhere along the lines, I kind of thought
about this metaphor. He's almost like the John Connor of

(12:15):
taking out the Democrat Party, Like where they say John
Connor figured out how to defeat the machines. Somewhere along
the lines, I think he figured out they just want power.
I'm gonna smash them over the that and and put that.
I think in occasion there's to a fault where we
go a little bit, we go a little too far,
but really hit them hard. But when we talk about
the you know, we hear the you know, the fake
news media has been this thing we're so much ironically

(12:37):
still to this day. You watch intee television today, they
say things that aren't true over and over and they're
trying to kind of get the they're trying because it comes.
I mean again, it's what do they say if it
if it bleeds, it leads. There is a little bit
of that. But that's so impressive, colonel that you that happened,
that you evaded that because you you were detecting it.
You were detecting what they were trying to do. And

(13:00):
and it's to a fault. It's to a fault. I
really think that it's you know, it'd be nice if
we did have some semblance of some journalism where we
just can kind of you know, have that. And I
I fear I think the future and I'll do my
one of my last Terminator reference, you know, the concept
of that film. And now when we look at like AI,

(13:20):
I think it's very probable that could be what the
future looks like. We're essentially, we're trying to wrestle back
the technological corridors of knowledge we've created and try to
get our freedom back. And with social media and with
the information age, on the one hand, there's so much information.
On the other hand, every day you see it, there's
something that goes out. It's not true, it's not correct,

(13:42):
and it's what a Winston Churchill say, a lie travels
halfway around the world before the truth gets a chance
to put its pants on. So that's a great anecdote
they had there about that CNN documentary.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
No, it's well, I mean, look, I'm not inexperienced. I've
given interviews in German, French and English to media around
the world, and I feel involve stuge communications. So and
I speak six languages, so they don't. I saw it coming.
And when I left that interview, I told a few
of my viewers when I get home, I said, don't
expect to see me in the CNN interview because I
didn't say what they wanted me to say. I told

(14:14):
the truth. You know, the same thing happened to me
when I was in South Africa this year talking about
the refugees as part of my normal trip over there,
and I was cornered by a Dutch film crew and
you could see the consternation in his face when He
asked me questions like, so, what gives President Trump to
right to let white africannors come to America. Well, the
Immigration Nationality Act of nineteen eighty allows the president to

(14:34):
do this. Congress, the President of the State Department determined
to group people. Yeah, but why white people? Well, first off,
it's not white people. It's for racial minorities, which includes
colors in Indians. Next question, dummy, anyway, you know, I
didn't say, but I said, you know, it's same sort
of thing. It's it happens all the time. So I'm
supposed to appear in another documentary, but this is an
offer Khans documentary in South Africa. I think it's more

(14:56):
like that be there. But I think also part of this,
be quite honest, is that before I censored on after
January sixth by YouTube illegitimately, and they did return that
channel after damage you at twenty three months later. But
before then, and before I became a target for the
Biden regime using third parties in the tech industry to
violate the First Amendment censor people, I was a regular

(15:16):
source of information for the Washington Examiner. For the Washington
Time to contact me about counter terrorism issues. In Africa.
I haven't got a single phone call or email from
any of those news agencies since January sixth, so that
just shows the collusion. I never heard from Fox News
any of these people. So anyway, but that's enough about
my whiny about my social media wilderness status. But I

(15:38):
shared it, and I think you agree. It was a
good anecdote to talk about why media has an influence here.
And you were talking about the media, I did want
to talk a little bit about Southsidan since you mentioned
that the situation South Cudents are pretty pretty difficult. Wen
a lot of Americans don't know. We have poured billions
and billions and billions of dollars into South Judan and
there was an agreement. Salvacure became a president, Yeak Mishar

(15:58):
became his advice or deputy president, whatever term they want
to use, and the Sensis can't get along. They didn't
even not even two years into a brand new country.
They went to war. And in fact I was a
recipient of that mess based in ugand at the time
we tried to do the non combat evacuation at a
boar and our Special Air Forces osprey were lit up
by gunfire. Despite General Ham negotiating a cease fire for

(16:21):
our aircraft to come in, they intentionally target us. We
have a Special Air Force special operator who has no
leg up to the hip because of a wound need
received being shot up in an aircraft. It's a terrible
situation and it just continues. You say that you do
some advising for the South Sudanese and of course the
deputy presidents under house arrest now, but what is the

(16:43):
situation like that doesn't from the outside looking in, because
I haven't been in the region for a couple of years,
I just follow it from events and then analyze it.
It looks like we have no progress. Is that the
situation at.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
This point absolutely correct? Right on the money?

Speaker 4 (16:56):
You know.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
It's so we have a little bit of you know,
the situation with those militias, and again it's it's a
blame game. The charge for the first Vice President, Riek Machar,
which I think the government is essentially their position is
that he's been stripped of that rank. His spouse is
also under house arrests as well. And actually I'll kind
of tip my hand and then I have to maybe

(17:17):
I have to do by disclabor I represent the suit
of these people's liberation, liberation movement, army and opposition. Everything
we do, we also have to, you know, report to
the Department of Justice. But I decided to become an
attorney in fact last year. By attorney in fact, it
means that I'm not an attorney. But I represented myself
four times and won all four times now against the

(17:38):
irs against others. And I literally I just sat down
one day and I started studying the law. I just
there's something that for us. I have a whole bunch
of hang ups, right. One of them is, you know,
we're lied to a lot growing up in education when
it comes to like I, by the way, I mentioned
this guy on the Fox News interview. I read Rich Dad,
Poor Dad a year ago. It came out in nineteen
ninety seven, and it did like change my life. I'm like,
we are taught the wrong, Like we're taught these things.

(18:01):
But one of them is is, uh, there's there's so
many things about about about about money and those kinds
of things, but it's just incorrect. So we have to
get we have to get out of those out of
those some kind of uh, those those those ways of thinking.
And I'm I'm completely forgetting what my point is. So
as I try to report that I'm.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Just those senior moments.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
It'll come back to me. But oh it does, and
then and then I try not to act like it
just you know. But I decided to join the legal team.
And the reason I'm doing this is because if I'm
not allowed to see in our council, but if we're
not allowed to see Riek Mashar, he's denied legal counsel.
So what my intention is, I'd like to go see

(18:47):
him in Juba by the end of the year. And
if the President won't let me, then that's gonna be
a problem. And if they try to, I don't think
that they would try to kidnap or kill me. I
think it'd just be too that'd be too obvious because
I'm and the reality is and this is just open
hand thing here, we're on the show here, you know,
I am their representative in Washington, d C. It doesn't
look good what the president here is doing, doesn't look good.

(19:09):
That China's heavily involved in financing it doesn't His health
is also deteriorating. I think his mental cognitive is in decline.
But you know, I'm here to report up to the
White House in Congress on this. So, even though I'm
not the official, I actually think and people, there's two
sides of everything. You know for so many years, that's
the shadow diplomacy and this and that. I think if
you're transparent about it and actually more effective because someone

(19:33):
said the other day, they're like, you know, you could
stack someone's resume up we go with the State Department
against me, and oh, this guy's got thirty years. These
ambassadors have thirty years experience. Yeah, how many times have
they been to war? How many times have there their
life been in jeopardy? How many times have they been
homeless for two years because of an issue with the
Biden irs? How many businesses have they started? And I'm like,

(19:54):
holy smokes, I have more experience than they do. And
by the way, I'm advising a president over and and
we're doing things and I had him on actually had
my news. By the way, another hard lesson when your
friend and journalism promises you he won't ask a question
about inline omar? Who is the question about in line omar?
And again you know what it's it's what do we
call this the precautionary principle. I think deceased business coach

(20:17):
Jim Rohan would call it the law of averages. But
side that all in, it's as Colonel, it's and it's
always refreshing when someone really knows and I'm confident you
have advanced knowledge of this region beyond me. I'm I'm
I'm what I call a brisk generalist. I get up
to speak quickly, and we learn about the it's a
fascinating history. Going back to John Garrong, the circumstances around
his death, which I think are suspicious and we could

(20:40):
we could probe. But yes, essentially, essentially, I would like
to make sure that uh uh, the first vice president
is safe, that his constitutent that he that he has
due process. He doesn't now and look, I'll wrap this
this line of thought up with this. We have a
president that is has a policy this more of America first.

(21:01):
It's a it's a it's a refreshing, it's kind of
a I would say, you know, it's not necessarily isolate isolationist,
but a realignment of priorities that he's not interested in
a lot of these African nations because of apprehension an
understandable apprehension that we're pumping money in here, we're wasting it.
And part of my residence in the House Foreign Affairs
Committee is when I mentioned China, that's more my angle

(21:23):
now because they're like, well, wait a minute, we don't
want China to come in here and take over economically.
So that's that's where I've been seeing successes. But you're
absolutely correct that it is not a lot of progress.
And the party leadership and I'm grateful and enthusiastic about
representing them. Financially, all their assets have been frozen. The
party leadership, you know, put together some some pull their

(21:44):
bootstraps together to fund lobbyists, and I'm I'm perfectly happy
I never come up. First of all, it's an honor
to represent them. You know, some nations have a big
treasure chest to goal and a rant for another time.
As I think we talk about foreign ad, there's also
a lot of money coming into DC for Washington d
C white shoe offerms that do nothing. The word fraud

(22:05):
comes to mind for me if they don't actually do
what they're supposed to do. But look, I just I
just give them earnest representation and you try to make
progress and you know South Sudanese Christian. I mean, they've
got resources down there. It's very different from Mores Soudan.
I have not been. I've been in Nairobi. I've been
into into Mogadishu. I was kind of near an attack

(22:26):
that just occurred on the third when I was there.
Separate discussion. But you know, my intention is to head
to Juba as soon as possible and see my client.
And if the government refuses. The United Nations, the BS
United Nations speech that the the current vice president gave
is completely phony. You know, he's he's he hasn't hasn't
had due process. They haven't had an election, So that's
just kind of some opening.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Salvospond, Well, listen, you're welcome to identify as an attorney.
In fact, I identify as a lamp shape because I
shed light on the world.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
I like use I might use that the attorney in
fact thing is kind of fun. But and and and
I think he's much better looking than me and more wealthy.
But people have always said you look like Mike Ross
from Suits, and he's a fake lawyer. He plays a
pretend attorney. But you know, when you really study the
law and everything to this idea that that that's the

(23:18):
thought I never fully finished earlier, was that, you know,
there's this idea that we have to go to school
and do this. Uh, you better get a good lawyer.
We hear these in our whole life. You better quit it.
So in our own country we need somebody else to
represent us in a system. And by the way, all
of us here, I believe served in the military and
went to war. Uh, I better go find a good lawyer.
Is there a such thing?

Speaker 4 (23:39):
You know, shakes the right. I hear some of the
good lawyers at the bottom of the ocean. That's what
I've heard. But but now, in fact, you know, in
most jurisdictions, not all, you don't even have to attend
law school. You simply have to pass the bar. If
you study, you can pass the barn attorney. It may
not be advisable that the bar is not easy, but anyway,
Uh yeah, So if you're trying to get traction, some

(23:59):
advice is that in the Congress, all you got to
say is the phrase you've already said, China and Africa,
and suddenly you have their attention. But I also agree
Donald Trump really doesn't have an interest in Africa. Care
about Africa. Most presidents don't. The South Africans are obsessed.
They seem to think that he's out to get them.
They're the ones getting themselves in trouble. Let me switch
attention here, because you do obviously on the part of

(24:19):
veterans here. I want to talk a little bit about that.
I don't know if you know about I don't want
to conflate these two stories because you've probably seen the
recent one, but I don't know if you saw the
one that came out in February last year. The Washington Post,
or as I prefer to call them, the Washington Compost.
The Washington Compost in February last year ran an article
in which they've bemoan veterans disability, and the premise of
the article was that veterans disability is costing us too

(24:41):
much money. It should be means tested because Social Security
disability payments aren't enough and it's not fair that veterans
get paid more than that. Well, first off, we don't
get paid a lot unless you're one hundred percent disability.
It's not that much money. And even that's on him mind.
We to have forty three hundred bucks a month for
someone one hundred percent disabled and with the rating, and
that's not enough to live off unless you live in
a trailer Ontanna with you know, with the unibomber, or

(25:02):
you live in West Virginia. It just isn't enough anything.
But I mean if you get if you get your
fifty percent, that's only like a thousand bucks a month.
I mean, that's a difference between fifteen hundred percent. So
what they try to do is following and what's that guy,
Billy Bob Jones or whatever, the guy that's on Fox.
He's missing both legs. He's got that Southern Jones Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know much about about the Fox. I see
it occasion. I stopped watching it when twenty sixteen. But yeah,

(25:25):
that kid, you know, he makes a quarter million dollars
year for sure, probably working on Fox. I mean okay,
So what they were trying to say is it basically
means testing he makes over one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars a year, so he should get no veterans disability.
The problem here is that a veteran's disability is not
because you cannot work. It's like an insurance settlement when
you have a car totaled, you're supposed to get another
car or money. When your house burns down. You're supposed
to be able to get another house when you are disabled.

(25:48):
From the Veterans administration, your rating is to compensate you
for your loss of ability or what you've suffered, to
make you whole again. That's the purpose of it. And
last year they conflated this. I don't know if you
saw that story, but I find it reprehensible because they
got away with it. I'm one of the few people
that said something about it. They slipped it in last
year and they started this argument to attack veterans by
saying that we should be means tested. And I'll tell

(26:09):
you what, I find that offensive. Because veterans, whether they
have a combat injury or a peace time injury or
some condition that's service related, it's serving the nation and
they should receive some hord of compensation. It certainly isn't.
It isn't making people healthy. That's the first story. So
any thoughts or comments or did you see that story
last year?

Speaker 5 (26:26):
So I'm glad you brought this up. So in my
years working to be as I'm familiar with with this.
And again this goes back to the beginning of data
disability benefits. My first experience with this was around twenty
twelve thirteen, where some proposals were floated. They didn't get
much traction, but they were controversial Republicans. I think Senator
Burr at the time went on to do insider trading
and all this other stuff, and I'm disappointed about it.

(26:48):
But had a bill that would sort of incentivize health.
But it was one of those things where it was
it was designed to curtail our benefits and I did
not see that last year. But but but it's the same.
It's it's a revision of I think earlier years. I
remember Senator Duckworth, who we needed a whole our gentlemen.

(27:11):
I'm not a I do not like her for variety
of reasons. I've had some negative experiences with her.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Strongly dislike her and I love you take a number.
She's an annoying, obnoxious person.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
Arrogant, narcissistic, not that smart, and the embodiment of it.
First of all, she would have been elected unless jerry mandering.
She should have a tattooed. They picked her voters for
her because she couldn't win. And she's just arrogant, entitled,
and I just I need a whole hour for her
police at some point if I could do that, but

(27:42):
she was kind of waiting. But here's the thing, so
I didn't. But now here we are with this piece,
I think that the powers to be the the money people.
And I won't use any names on this one because
there's some people that work in the the highest eeschel
line of we'll say that the think tank conservative commercial
space that I mean, they look at it and they
just think, like, you know, how can we save money?

(28:03):
And I think it's their job to kind of float
this stuff out there. And you know the bottom line is,
you know what are the two biggest agencies they relate
to us? Those agencies exist because of the right. So
it's er point one percent serve. So I used to
be I admit I used to be almost a little
bit right a center in terms of like, yeah, there's
people out there gaming this. But here's the thing, there's

(28:25):
always gonna be someone in a system. There's gonna be
some level for auders. Some folks quote gaming system. My
viewpoint changed. When one it's so hard to get it,
to get disability to get up to where you're supposed
to be. And you know, four thousand, I think it's
a little bit over four thousand for a single veteran. Again, SMC,
you can look at it could be a little more.
Is a drop in the bucket for one hundred percent

(28:46):
disabled American veteran oftentimes fighting wars. And we have what
are most members of Congress I think have a salary
of I believe one hundred and seventy four thousand dollars
a year, a million dollar members representational allowance and the
insider trade all day long, they're all day long. There's
and I love this is one benefit of the Trump presidency.
Quick answer. It's like his ability to he didn't need

(29:06):
the money. He was a wealthy when he came in
weth he doesn't take a salary. You go in there
and your net. It's not it's both parties. Boom boom
boom boom boom. How did that happen? And it's it's
just one of those things where so for just for
v a disability to come after us sure reforming, Sure
put a bill forward, have a discussion. But the idea

(29:28):
that we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna do that to
veterans is it's just not a fair narrative. And and
I don't think that will happen. I just think that
in their mind that the oppositions of this post, the
compos Washington Compost is if we have any shot of this,
if we have any shot of claw on this back,
it's got to be during this presidency, during the kind

(29:48):
of less reform. And so I'm actually pleasantly surprised that
there hasn't been. I mean, with DOJE, that was more
about some of the workforce people. But Secretary Collins, I
don't know him personally. I know a few of the
depth secretaries very personally, the Chief Financial officer personally. Newly,
I just don't see him going in there and doing

(30:08):
things to hurt vets. I don't and and uh and
I just feel like, I mean, programs like VR and
E for example, are interesting where there's so much it's
like a treasure chest under the ocean, covered up rap
where they have the power to send me or Todd
to law school, you know what I mean, But they don't.
They don't. They'll send this, they'll send someone over here

(30:31):
to do it. But then they want to try to
fight because it's and again it's an employment program. So
all this is to say, there are a lot of
regulatory issues inside the VA. But the idea that Veterans
Secretary Collins I was watching on not TV the other
day and I was at Arlington later in the day.
But I think he said it really well, which is
people the media, people in the political establishment. Let me
just say something right here, and I won't do his voice.
I do impressions and they're pretty decent, and it's Georgia Ackson.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
He basically just.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
Said, you know what, this thing about veterans, get get
get No, No, let me just make something clear. They
earned everything that they're receiving. So I think we're gonna
be in good and shape in this administration. And numerically,
the budget has tended to go up at VA, right
regardless of administration.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Oh absolutely, yeah, let's see that's okay. So so yeah,
now we've conflated issues. That's why I was trying to
put a pin in it. So so we'll we'll, we'll,
we'll segue into that now. But the point I was
making is that reprehensive behavior of the newspaper making an
argument for people who haven't served. I mean, how do
you compensate a man who has no children because there
has no testicles because of a roadside explosion. And that's

(31:30):
that's what VA disability is for the people get so
scurity disability don't even have to pay in a so
security one day of their life, and they get a
disability paym because they're unable to work. This is different
people who served and suffered as consequence. It's to make
them whole again. And to see journalists, oh, that's a
generous term. Journalists try to equate military service to the
loss of brain capacity or missing limbs or things like that,

(31:52):
as as as the same as so scaredy disability. I
found anoxious. It didn't get attraction. And I'm not worried
about this administration happening. But I said on January six,
basically I said on November when Trump supposedly lost that election.
You know, in twenty twenty, I said that what's going
to happen is that you watch as soon as the
administration comes in, the first thing to do is go
after veterans. Then are going to start denigrating active due
to the military. They're going to try to destroy our

(32:13):
reputation that we spent four decades rebuilding after Vietnam. You
watch and as sure as anything, what was the highlight
The insurrectionists were primarily former military. First off, that wasn't accurate,
but that's that's when it started. And then this article
came out last year, another step in this by the
media trying to destroy veterans. Okay, let me segue to
what you were getting at now. In Secretary of Collins

(32:33):
and the Washington Compost has had a series of articles
to come out in the past few years in which
they went through twenty years of data and they found
nine cases of severe fraud and then the real then
that story they got lamb based on it because basically
they applied that we're all frauds. Well, here's the bottom line.
My hip is falling apart. I can barely walk as
a consequence of an injury in the army in nineteen

(32:54):
eighty five. I served it till twenty nineteen with that injury,
and I was okay with it, but they never treated properly.
And if they identified it was what it was, they
could have fixed it. But they just ignored me for years.
And anyway, so now it's progressive point where I'm ature.
I have a ten percent disability hip replacement. That's what
they want to do. I'm too young for hip replacement.
But if I go and get hip replacement, first off,
I'll be out of pain. I'm in pain. I'm in

(33:15):
pain sitting here right now, and I get ten percent
for that from the VA. But that's a prosthetic. I
can automatic thirty percent disability. I haven't gone for hip
replacement to get the money, and I didn't go get
it three or four years ago when I should have
gotten it, you know, So to hear these scumbags talk
about veterans gaming the system, and honor is our word
most of us. You know these are exceptions, but they
make it seem like it's and then they lie. Well,

(33:36):
the soaring costs of the VA for two reasons. Number one,
you all passed the Pack Act and you don't have to.
No one has to prove that they had got their
cancer from from military service. If you're a veteran, you
get cancer because you're smoked every day, you're gonna get paid.
You caused this. And then also with VA reform started
under Obama. He was a shyster, but will give them credit.
He started and Trump carried it through the VA reform,

(34:00):
it's been a lot easier for many people to file
claims and have their claims heard. It's still problematic, but
the number of cases is sword for that reason. And
the third reason is twenty years of conflict. We've had
four million people serving conflict for the last four twenty years,
so of course the veterans claims are going to go up,
plus the dollar amounts high. So those three things, they
mentioned them, but they dismissed them, and that irritated me.

(34:20):
So that story came out. They tried to say that
veterans were scamming the system, and a lot of us
respond including the commander of the VFW, and an excoriating
op ed piece that she wrote was brilliant. I didn't
even know who she was even though with VFW member.
Now I know. Now they've come back with other story,
and this is the sorty you should have gone with, like
payday lenders, the people who try to get veterans to
up their claim all the time and make money off

(34:41):
of it. That should have been the story, but instead
they've attacked veterans. But now that they got called out
on it, they backed up and ran another story saying, oh, no, No,
it's these people. This is the sort of stuff that
irritates me. You know, if you've served the station with honor,
you shouldn't have to put up with this crap. What
do you think, Chris? Oh?

Speaker 5 (34:56):
Absolutely, And thank you for retorting to that first after
again via disability metag. There's so much to it. You're right.
The idea in the mind of most Americans is that like, well,
it's money just to survive because of that, it's more
than that. Even if we first of all, if we
can overcome it, that's wonderful. I mean, that's wonderful that
you had this aptitude. You still have the disability. I
could have one hundred percent post traumatic stress disorder and

(35:20):
you know, and build a freaking three million dollar company.
That's wonderful. But guess what I'm doing that in spite
of the disability. It's what it's how an average person
and someone is. It's what it takes away from you.
And I feel like and I played softball with Ryan Glucci.
I've known him for years. He did a pretty good
job in front of Congress, I believe. Now he's the
executive director of the VFW National of basically saying in
many veteran spokespeople have gotten more I think seasoned done

(35:42):
this and online videos and forums, and is that you know,
while we are serving, we are government property. We give
up our freedoms, we give up our rights. We're in
the shade of command. And if something happens to us,
and it's key and Colonel, I know you're gonna know
this occupational hazards. So you know, I was military police.
I was military police interact at a prison and so,

(36:03):
and there was bombs exploding out on the road and
all these different things. But even without that, the tuberculosis,
the prisoners, the the uh, all of those types of things.
So I thought that that part of the VFW testamy
for Congress was good as oh yeah, toe fungus, that's
really just insignificant. Really, well, let's look at the you know,
it's something resulted to a service that then became an infection,

(36:25):
and it's it's and let's just go back to the
beginning of American history. I believe President Washington said something
along the lines of, you know, people will serve in
future generations based on how we take care of veterans,
and so if we don't take care of them, we
can't expect other people to move forward. And and and
I have a lot of thoughts on the d D reform.
I largely think it's absolutely great what's going on there.

(36:47):
But yeah, so it's the disability system is there to
uh try to make whold to some extent what what's
happened with the disabilities And and it's not easy. It's
not easy to to to earn and get and and
just once again, less than one percent of folks serve
in the middle. It feels more, but it's not. My

(37:08):
and my grandfather served on Ewajima Fifth Marines. Now I
don't even know that they had disability conversation back then.
Again and part of it too. I think of World
War two, good bet are and different one. I think
the enemy was more identified and it was looked at
as victory. A lot of them, I think was just
completely compartmentalized. We have the white picket fence and we
never looked back. I think the more recent conflicts post Vietnam,

(37:29):
but well Vietnam as well, there has been a little
there's been questions about morality and you know, Vietnam veterans
are we're against them, and then with us it's kind
of I almost think it's we well when I say
we Afghanistan, Iraq will say post nine to eleven, I
think we've benefited a little bit almost from hero worship,
a little bit, you know, which is.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Look, Chris, I sorry to interrupted, but I agree hundred
percent with that. And it's always maybe uncomfortable, you know.
I had been in the army eighty three's when I
came in. I came back a year after nine to eleven,
and not a few months and see a year after
the two thousand elections. So November of two thousand and one,
I came back States and I have read I have
a black Army rain jacket has the Army in the back.
And every I went people thank for my service, and

(38:10):
I was like, okay, you're welcome. This has never happened
in my eighteen years in the army. And then here
in Pennsylvania we have the I think the third highest
number of living veterans in the country of over six
hundred and fifty thousand at just eleven and a half
the population. So here, people, especially in central Pennsylvania, when
they know you're a veteran, they thank you for the service.
And of course this our broadcast comes to the heels

(38:32):
of Veterans Day, and yesterday we had people bringing cards
from the primary school for veterans, and we go to
other events and then people putting up banners across the
foot bridges and stuff and waving for thanking veterans. It's
really appreciated. But I always tell people to start and
I spoke the lines called money. I said, stop for
a moment and think about why you're saying that. We
appreciate it, but you know, thank you first responder, thank

(38:54):
a law enforcement officer, Thank of fireman. They put their
lives a line every day, you know, and everyone's serving
for your benefit. But it does become a little bit
of hero worship at times. But while I find it
a little bit uncomfortable, it's certainly better than the alternative
which Vietnam veterans had to deal with. It's I'm grateful
for that. Let me let me segue before I wrap up,
because two things I want. I want to just ask
you very quickly about you've got global security or something

(39:14):
you mentioned, So what exactly do you do in that field,
because I mean, that's geopolitical stuff, is what I do.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
So I'm curious, Well, you know it's interesting. So we
have good clients and just it is. It's kind of
an interesting entertaining thing because we've got some sports media
with some former UFC champions and some just frankly entertainment
media in terms of kind of some of their post
career things and opportunities. Global security. We have some executive
protection firms that are involved in guarding high network individuals

(39:41):
overseas and security PTSD. Some of it's just what I'm
talking about just because it's proprietory with the company. Most
of the global stuff is just the FARA related stuff
now the lobbying related stuff, and I definitely you know,
it's interesting. There was a cancelation. I think there was
some student that my master's degree all the matter in Springfield, Illinois.

(40:01):
University of Illinois Springfield used to be called Sangama State.
You know, the real reason I went there is I
can't do math. I would have to reveal the ethical
things I engaged in just to barely get through undergraduate math. Well,
maybe one day.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
It's funny how you said ethical, I was I was
matching unethical right right?

Speaker 5 (40:19):
Well, I say, you know, I don't know how Let's
just say this. I don't know how I got through.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
I got through, but you did, you did.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
I don't recall you're on it.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
But in grad school there was a really low, a
low requirement, this particular program there was. There was quantitative analysis.
But I found my way to Springfield, Illinois, and and
Dana Perino had gone there for a master's in public
affairs reporting. So in my mind and again post busher,
I kind of looked up to her and I was
just emailing her with her this week about stuff. You know,

(40:51):
I'm like, this is and and she was in a
program called Public Affairs Reporting. They had a couple really
prestigious internships. One I didn't get and I was complete.
So again, gentlemen, so many topics are like I need
an hour on that whole thing. But but and I'm
trying to do it tonight where I have something and
I'm I'm these senior moments they there, well, let me.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Let me, let me shift real quick, so I'll get
my last one in here. Okay, then we'll do that.
That'll save you at the senior moment. All right. Yes,
So we just had Veterans Day and this one's a
rather pointy win. It's been eighty years since the conclusion
of the Second World War. You know, there were sixteen
million men and women who served in uniform during the
Second World War. Today, less than fifty thousand, possibly less

(41:31):
than thirty thousand alive the youngest or ninety seven years
of age. Most are centurions. That in itself is impressive longevity.
That's you know, go through that, you serve in Baton
or something, and you live to be one hundred years old,
it's amazing. But they're dying off. You know, you mentioned
the number of veterans, and this is where I want
to go with this. In nineteen seventy was the peak.
We had twenty eight almost twenty nine million living veterans.
Of course, cause sixteen million World War Two. Many of

(41:53):
them so live in Vietnam are Korea Vietnam, so twenty
eight million, but that was out of a population two
hundred three million. So as a percentage of the adult
pop there was like one of very five adults was
a veteran. Today, less than four percent of the country
is actually served in uniform. We have fifteen million living
veterans day, and by twenty forty that will decline to
twelve point nine million. Even with new cohorts coming in

(42:14):
and serving the military. There's becoming a disconnect between service
and society. Most people have never served their uncle, their aunt,
their brother, the system mother. They've never suffered lost, they
haven't dealt with missing births and deaths and living in
a crap whole country and you know, having terle nutrition.
Things explode around you, and they don't understand the sacrifice.

(42:35):
I'm very concerned about civil military relations going forward as
fewer and fewer people serving uniform. And also I'm conversely
worried about the hero worship where people worship it's just
because we're nothing special. We're just Americans who's answered the call.
Anyone who's capable can answer the call. We've done it.
You want to thank us for that. I think that's
what matters. Any thoughts on that, Chris, And then I'm
gonna turn over to you, Todd.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Yeah, Connel'll be great, And I retorted, I don't know
if a sleep over version the last few days, I
just things start going real quick. The reason I mentioned
that the alma mater is and I went to a
really great private lobby firm with the most ethical guys
I'll ever meet. That taught me everything I know about lobbying.
Number one, always be honest. You get caught, lion, you're done.
You know your word is everything the information you have
to be And they taught me to lobbying. I think.

(43:16):
I think lobbying done correctly and ethically is extremely patriotic.
I think it's actually more valuable than voting. But there
was an article that someone couldn't do it because they
were part of I think America's got talent, some undergrads.
So they had me. They did a profile on me,
and it was odd there, like, you know, how would
you compare yourself to probably like Luke Skywalker. I'm sitting
out in Tattooin. I'm like just this middle like I'm
not involved in any of this and everything I fall

(43:38):
into I'm unprepared for. And I'm like, I don't know
how this is gonna work. And then somehow through these
interesting you know, I think life is like I like,
our lives are like Episode four, right, It's just like
we end up getting there, but we're like, how are
we gonna do this? But one other thing too. Rick Widman,
who was the Governor affairs guy at Vietnam Bearters for
many years I've learned a lot from Rick, and I
think like Rick's a little bit of an old liberal too,

(43:59):
but you know, he he just said, you know, you
don't have to be a veteran to be a veteran's advocate.
There's a lot of great non veteran veteran advocates. But
you're right, there's a staff the staff director of the
Veteran's House Ender Affairs Committee. I mean, I have kind
of gone out on some policy over years because I
also represent the some of the public aviation colleges that
have you know, they're more expensive, you know, to to

(44:19):
train under the g I Bill, and and and and
and and you know, we're I think we're kind of
made up and everything. But it's not it's not a disrespect.
But he's not a veteran, he's not a pilot, and
he's in there making policy and advice. Now, Mike boss
is and I met him years ago in Springfield on
on the on the run. So I do think it
is important.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
I do.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
I think it's important. I mean, you know, uh, and
again I can I talk about personalities. I should avoid
it because it could take us off his hand. Steven A.
Smith also never played basketball. I don't like him, right,
this guy man, this guy, dude, you never played in
the NBA. Man, you never played in the NBA. You've
never you know, So.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Yeah, bye bye bye bye. See. Look, I mean so
I see where you're going, and I don't disagree with
it to a point. There's always a certain number of
people in any age cohort that can do anything, even
if they've never done it. They can empathize, they can understand,
they can get I mean, Alexander the Great conquered the
world almost as a teenager. I'm not saying that there

(45:12):
are many Alexander Greats, but there are people. Look, I
don't like Steven A. Smith too because of his views,
but he's trying to come bring himself, pull himself back
into reason lately. But he's a bit of a whacka
dudo in his views, especially when it comes to race.
But there are people who don't necessarily have to don
something have done something to get it. But yeah, but
my concern is not so much that it's really I'm

(45:32):
worried about society losing sight of the military, Like we're
some praetorian guard and we're just over here and we
pull them out of the box when we need them
and we send them off. Like I mean, America didn't suffer.
The economy grew, jobs grew, people had lives. The NFL
became racist, the NBA was racist. Did I say that last? Yes,
I did. And life continued in America while we sent

(45:52):
people to Iraq, in Afghanistan, the Philippines and Columbia to
die over and over and over again. And there was
parsally no impact that back here, you know, And they
went about their lives. They went to Starbucks, they went
to they went to to Kohle's, they wherever they need
to go, and life continued for most Americans. There was
no shared sacrifice here. And I'm not bemoaning that. I'm
just saying that that creates potentially some animosity and some

(46:13):
dis misunderstanding between those groups military and veterans and society.
And that's I just want to get your thoughts on that.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
No, absolutely, it's it's it's out of set. I have
this Andrew the Elexander the Great Mural. It's as a
copy of one of those, the marble one. It's very interesting.
He's got a sphere.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
Absolutely, and it's and that's where I think just studying
history is a healthy thing, is learning what happened. I
don't know why. I find it peaceful and calming. I'll
watch American Heroes Channel some night. Maybe it's the narrator voice.
I just sit there and I'm like, I mean, think
about how crazy. But my grandmother used to talk about
growing up during World War Two, and the reality is
it did affect a lot of people. The challenge we're in,

(46:50):
especially post nine eleven, is it doesn't affect all other people.
I mean, it's and I got to give credit to
a woman or her husband, she's a gold star spouse.
She said it really well on fire years ago. She
was like, you know, I know I've read here and
a lot of people are really tired about the war.
That's interesting that you're tired about fighting the war you
never fought, you know what I mean. And it's like
it's interesting. So again we pick up little nuggets. I

(47:12):
love that one. It's like, really you're tired of the
war you never fought, you know, and and and don't
really have the context. So I think studying history, but
I feel like, you know, I was at the Tomb
of the Unknown the other day, right, and it says
on their paraphrase, essentially, you know, here lays a soldier
known but to God. I feel like there's some things
that God admires more than others on earth. And and

(47:36):
and service and sacrifice and military service and warriors that
and I think in Greek mythology they talk about the
allegian fields that you bypas you go straight to the
higher echelon. There's something about service and sacrifice that's just true,
and that's above political nonsense.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
You know.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
And and look, we live in an age where I
think we know where all of our politics are. It's
over here. There's there's veterans that are hard, right, there's
veterans that are liberal, and we all kind of we
play it now. We we we we leverage that for
certain areas of credibility. But we do need to have
an a political military that can be effective, that can
be lethal. And thank God that the DEI stuff inside

(48:15):
the pedant that had to go. It bothered me during
the Obamba years, the lady God goys making D O
D policy. Sorry, Stephanie Germanoda, you know, I appreciate your
artistic talents. Sure, why are you making military policy? And
and this is and This gets me in hot water
sometimes at my liberal friends. But this thing that we're
stronger together. Do we need transgender service members? I don't

(48:35):
know that.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
We need to.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
I mean if we had, you know, if like Arnold
Schwarzenayer came in the military. You know, do we need
to pay for the the the the you know, the performance.
I mean, if we have to keep someone ready or
keep someone hormonally a certain way, it's actually a risk.
I think, I think we're like minded here, but I
agree we have to keep the warrior ethos. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Look, I mean we we've eaten most of the hour there,
so I don't have to get much of a chance question.
But I do want to share since you mentioned DEI
my pronouns are American and Patriot.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
I saw funny one the other day that was like
I and me.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
A second, that's that's old school, it was.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
And for some reason, these people with all these pronouns
want to go into countries where people want them dead,
where their pronouns are going to be used to be
or something.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Well, look, I mean these don't always make stay.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
You know.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
I'm still waiting for that flotilla of gays for gods
and see how that goes for them, you know, you know,
I mean, yeah, look, you know the blind place is
safe being gay is here. You're not safe being gay there.
Trust me, I've been there.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
No, it's it's it's uh. And you know there's there's
a way to debate issues. I mean I think that
there's uh. You know, we have to get back to
that sort of the way that you debate an issue.
I try so hard to stay have social media because
it'll draw you in. I had to check a family
member today that had made it, in my view, of
defamatory comment about about Charlie Kirk. And I'd been him
a few times. I'm not even the biggest that's not
even my nestile flavor of the thing. But you know,

(49:57):
when you side step a murder to make a few points,
it's like, right, and I fact checked the particular statement
they'd made and I said, that's false, which you said
is a lie. You are a liar. But big, bigger
than that is besides step to murder, imagine defending the
other side of that position and just change the faces.
Have it been a left wing figure. There's a lot
of left wing figures I can't stand. I don't want

(50:18):
to see them get there, get murdered, you know what
I mean, like, let's let's have some basic standards. I
think our military allows us this constitutional framework that we have.
And you know, we just again that that cliche. We
have to be better? We do? Can we be more?
You know? And the truth, the truth is the truth.
There's something about it that's that's irrefutable. So we have
to just try to be better.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
And so you mean I can't have my truth and
you can't have your truth.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
Moral truth, colonel, you know, is problematic.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
And yeah, I think we're probably like minded there. Yeah, Todd,
do you got like thirty seconds? One? You got a few?

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Now, I knew this would be a good interview. I
knew colonel you like like Chris.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
But I'm not done. I could go forever.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
You know.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
I'm I'm big into an etymology of surnames. And I'm
looking at that that's either either Dutch or his Arabic kid,
it's been anglicized.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
Question.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
If not, we're gonna go on, what is it, Christopher?
What is it?

Speaker 5 (51:15):
It's Dutch? It's from Holland, Well, I said Dutch?

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Or here? Yes, I got it right?

Speaker 2 (51:20):
There you go, there you go so, John, you got
any questions for Chris by chance?

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Uh? Well, you know, having been to DC, I don't
know if this we've got time for all this. But
having been to d C, I see a lot of
groups that go in there was small groups going for lobby,
and they really get overwhelmed by the larger groups, don't they.
I mean you get people like in my case with trucking,
it's the American Trucking Associations has the biggest lobby and
they create the biggest echo chamber. And so do you

(51:46):
see a lot of groups, small groups are just getting
bulldozed over constantly? And if so, what can they do
to overcome that circumstance.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Well, I mean a standard neutral answer would be having
a legislative, having a lobby, having someone that can give
a push this throughout sixty five days a year and
be in there. I don't know in the spring they
do big lobby days, but I think a lot of
it is I mean, look, the outsized influence are the
people that they're not registered to love the lobby disclosure
acts a whole other thing that's just basically you know,

(52:15):
it was created to talk to about a gentleman who
actually I talked to this morning who is the most
highly paid lobbyist in American history, Jack Abramoff, who you
know I talk to and you know he's again some
of these figures they get kind of brought into this.
Sometimes we bring things on ourselves, this, that and the other.
But the Lobby Disclosure Act is designed to kind of
be transparent. You're looking at this with you know, Todd

(52:36):
and I are going to walk into a fundraiser with
twenty five hundred dollars. Man, we're just buying the government,
aren't we We have that we have a corporation or
someone like a George Sore, they don't need to register
because they have outsized influence. So what happens is, here's
the thing that happens. When you start getting influential, that's
when Congress, when Congress gets uncomfortable, that's when you know
you're having success. Because when I go up against a
member of Congress, which i'm one hundred sent success rate

(52:58):
and beat them, it's because I'm leverage all these different techniques.
So when people look at me on a election day,
it's by one day. I try not to be a
narcissist where they're like, are you going to vote, and
it's like I have a lot of influence about how
lawmakers vote. Like it's we're programmed again, vote do your
cific duty. How about create a lobby firm, get together
a group of people, create a movement. We know, we
write some books, we influence a couple committee things, and

(53:21):
we you know, you know, and if we have too
much success, the Congress will start being like, oh, we
got to keep an eye on these guys.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
So how are people how How is Congress responsive to
protest or grassroots movements when people stand up and they
create a lot of media attention and really gravitate a
lot of people. Are they really responsive to that?

Speaker 5 (53:41):
Yes and no. I think the problem now is we're
in this age of the selfie, the stupid selfie video
or members of Congress all day just sit and film
themselves and cross talk with each other. So I think
that they in a way they kind of like the
raucousness because they're on film and it's all about promoting
the same idea and it's you know, I intern for
Don Menzuel. He gave an interview recently though I thought

(54:02):
was really good. He said, you know, I went to
Congress because my job was to get I know we're
coming up on time on the hour, is to go
into rend these people. His first assignment, he had to
work with this far left Democrat in California. He's like, man,
I don't know how am I going to do this?
But it was a telecom thing. It had to do
with jobs and manufacturing. And they got together and they
compromised and they had a bill that became well that
did things for their constituents. That's how Congress is supposed

(54:23):
to function. Now we're in this operate by emergency. It's
not good for the people. And whose fault here? It
is our fault collectively because we can go in there
with a can you imagine instead of going to a
stupid no King's rally, a dumb title that means nothing.
If we went out there with thirty constitutional amendments and
pen and paper and said, hey, guys, here's what our
government's going to be like, they'd be like, oh my god,

(54:44):
they know what they're doing, and we could actually reform
the government and create a new one, which may have
to happen someday. So they're acceptive, But I think an
educated is what did Thomas Jfferson say? We get the
government we deserve, and we need an educated citizenry. AI.
There's never been a better time to learn and get information.
We just have to make sure it's healthy information and
keep ourselves off of this, uh, to detox from social
media because I think it's a public health hazard. It's

(55:06):
getting it's uh, it's it's it's it's problematic.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
At times, we're really losing our country, aren't we. I
mean we're seeing the terrier rate right before our very eyes,
especially with the definitive spending. This is how countries fall.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
Absolutely, and I guess what Rome had two thousand years
at this rate. I think when Republicans win, we save
it for a little bit longer. But then the Marxism stuff,
and I'm a huge Robert Kyosaki fan Capitalists manifesto. I
mean there's capitalism and there's Marxism, right yeah, and Marxism.
The thing is, once that we goal that, we were
never getting it back. And my one of my hot
buds is having been an entrepreneur and having been broken,
living in my car at one point and earning over

(55:41):
a million dollars. None of that stuff happens by accident.
None of that stuff happens by accident, and it with socialism,
there's it just doesn't it just it just doesn't you know.
I think you can be respectful.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Chris.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
We're gonna have to cut you off. The music is playing,
but we are going to have you back, sir.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Yeah, you have very much.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
You have it real quick. Give us a web address
of people if you need people to reach at.

Speaker 5 (56:01):
Chris niwe my X just as my name's spelled c
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have nine group the arsenal web pages under construction. I'm
always happy to hear from people and help veterans if
they need assistance.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Awesome, we got folks stick around.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
When we back after the top, they will break all right, folks,

(56:43):
welcome back to the commonsense concerners. You're just joining us.
You missed a great guest early in the first hour,
Chris nemon Uh. Anyway, colonel, what did you think about
the interview there? What do you think about the guests?

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Well, it's fantastic and really engaging. Interesting to see someone
here in the States. It has a little background with
Africa as well, so that was interesting and it was
also interesting to get a peek into the lobbying process
because in general, much the public looks down and lobbyists
and and have a negative view of lobbyists. We didn't
really get much into that because he gave some really

(57:15):
detailed answer to some of the questions, which were very informative.
But I'm sure we could explored that for a long time.
I mean, you see, I wasn't trying to, but I
bow guarded most of the time. Right, It's his answers
were quite thorough. So I think it's fantastic and it's interesting.
We should have him back on and we can we
can narrow a topic down and focus on the topic
next time. That really will keep the I think this

(57:35):
kept the audiences interesting, certainly kept my interest. But I
think we can do it again, maybe sometime in the
new year.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
I think I think it was appropriate tell you guys
talked a lot about veterans and such, and you know,
the day after Veterans Day, we didn't get to do
a show on veterans today, so it seemed fitting for
the time and by the way, for the sake of
saying so I've got to acknowledge that no, I did
not serve because he said the four of.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
Us and yeah, I heard it. I know.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
I don't want to be thinking I'm going for stolen
battles here.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
I just all John, it's always John's always been honest
about that. No, No, I did catch him say that,
but I didn't want to break his rhythm because he
already had two senior moments. I didn't had exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
You don't want to interrupt the guy just to clarify that,
but just the same.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Right, absolutely, So what do you think about the last
pennies out of the Philadelphia minute? At what point are
they going to be worth more than just a penny?

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Well, I can't say that I'm happy about this. You know,
I understand why they're doing it, but yeah, it's it
actually cost us more money to make pennies than they
get for them. So I understand why they're doing it.
It's a shame, but I mean, pretty soon he could
say the same thing about nichols. You know, oh sure
they're not mostly they're mostly not nickel. They're mostly zinc,
just like the pennies. So you know, it's uh, you know,

(58:46):
it's the penny is when the dollars actually had some
worth and one hundred cents actually meant something. I mean
my great great grand my great grandfather, Yeah, my great grandfather,
scuse me one too. Yeah, my great grandfather worked for
the Baltimore Railroad for thirty six years and he made like,
you know, thirty six cents a week at one point
thirty six cents, So there was a penny in his paycheck,

(59:07):
you know, literally, right, I think that was a big deal.
So it's a shame to shake out. But I mean,
for for as long as we know, retailers have used
it to you know, trick the mind nine ninety nine.
You mean ten dollars, right, So I guess we won't
see that anymore at some point. But I'm more concerned
the disappearance of penny with an effort to remove paper currency.

(59:30):
There is a move a foot to remove paper currency
and force people to use credit cards. Not everbody qualifies
for credit card, and this is quite annoying. You know,
in the United States, by law, you must accept our currency.
It's legal tender for all all purchases. Yet we have
people breaking the law all over the place, you know,
And now they're telling me that having another federal law
for it, but it's not necessary that money is issued

(59:51):
and you're supposed accepted. But I can tell you example this.
I was in New Jersey at the Newark Airport a
couple of years ago, and I was hungry. It was late,
I was waiting for my flight, and every place I
went only took credit cards. Well, I didn't want to
use my credit card, and eventually I had to use
my credit card to buy something. First off, the prices
are outrage a second, you can only purchase into the
credit card. Well, not everybody has a credit card. What

(01:00:12):
about a woman who's just gone through a divorce, or
or you know someone who is low income. It doesn't
have the money. Someone that's bragg credit because they went bankrupt.
Maybe they had a massive medical bill cancer in the family.
They had to pay that pocket because of Obama's unafformded
carrect they don't have health insurance anymore, so they had
to and the expiration of the subsets not to pay
the pocket. Their bankrupt, So they follow bankers. They don't
have a credit card, they're no credit rating, so what

(01:00:32):
are they supposed to starve? And if a mother comes
to a single mother comes here with three kids in the airport,
she can't feed her kids because she doesn't have a
credit card. It's it's it's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Yeah, I think we're seeing a rapid movement towards digital currency.
And I think that's the issue here, isn't it that
the Biden administration I put together a committee to do
research and migrating that way, and we're seeing the Trump administration.
There's no different. Really, he would like to prefer to
move to digital currency. He seems to appreciate a lot
of about technologies. So Malcolm here does ask how far

(01:01:04):
behind is nickels and dimes? And I think the nickel
just new replaced the penny. I think.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
It right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Well, look, I mean trum Trump might be in favor,
but he's also in favor of other dumb ideas, like
getting rid of daylight savings time.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Some people don't think it's that dumb.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
I think it's a dumb idea. It serves a very
valuable purpose. The number of traffic accidents dramatically declined after
the imposition of daylight savings time because of the daylight
in the morning when people are not as alert as
they should be going to work. And initition to that,
the energy savings is is huge that we see. Yeah,
so you know, I think that that's not a fully
formed opinion on the part of the present. And like

(01:01:42):
I said, and we've said on here, when we disagree
with the president, we'll point it out. And I disagree
on both those issues. I also disagree on the move
towards the digital currency. Digital currency can manipulate, It can
be stolen without your knowledge, bankrupt it overnight. Your bank
can be cleared out. A magnet could wipe out your
card and erase everything on it. You know. It's thoughts
and for.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Those of let's still appreciating privacy in the day and
age one that does pretty much non existent. It is
become a privacy issue because they can track all your
spendings exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
That's this other thing and you can hunt people down
there easily. And whereas with cash you have anonymity and
you have ubiquitous use of the cash, you can use
it all over. You know. It's it's it's I don't
think it's really well thought through. And if that's if
there's a cost to having currency, then there's a cost
having currency. It's part of commerce. There's also cost using
credit cards. Service data centers, the all the staff that

(01:02:30):
have to answering cards are stolen cards, replaced mailing cards,
digital cards. There's a whole infrastructure of tens and tens
and tens of billions of dollars buying credit cards and
behind digital payments. That's far more expensive than printing currency.
And that's what they ignore.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
So years ago they had what was called the Liberty dollar,
and the government pretty much put him out of business
because they said that he was counterfeit used too much
government identity, like he called it the dollar instead of
calling it something else, and so they confiscate everything, arrested them.
He spend some time in jail over the matter. In
those dollars no longer exist unless for novelty for trading

(01:03:03):
and stuff or collecting. However, now they do have what's
called a gold backs. What do you guys think about
alternative currencies?

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
What like crypto? No, no paper, No, I'm not a
fan of alternative currencies. That becomes a mess. We've seen
this movie before. It was when the country first formed
and every state had its own currency, and inside states
banks issued their own currency, and say, it becomes very problematic.
And then the deal with the dollar is that And
we've proven this with Fandy Made and Freddie Mack unfortunately,

(01:03:33):
is that the US government will pay its debts because
it constitution requires us to and therefore the full faith
and confidence of dollars. What I mean because it has
no value. There's no gold backing, there's no precious metals
back in. It's not like the old days before before
Nixon took us off the gold stand. You could take
you know, the dollar amount, give it to the federal reserves.
They give me gold, you know, right, that's what they
can do. At least governments could do that, and individuals

(01:03:55):
can do it for time, but not anymore. No, it's
it's it's it's it's it's fiat currency, and it's based
on the concept that people accept it based on their
confidence in the government. But then any any anything use
for currency, whether it's cowie beads or it's gold or
it's silver, is also based on that. But I'm not
I'm not into my understanding.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
With the gold backs, like the Liberty Dollar, they actually
weave gold into the dollar of the value of the dollar,
so you do actually have a dollar's worth of value
of gold within that bill.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Not when the price of gold declines.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Well that's why, that's why on the bill it says negotiable.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
Yeah, I see, that's the problem. Gold is a commodity,
and it's a precious commodity. But if you take all
the gold ever mined in the history of humankind, I
understand it fits in like eight Olympic sized swimmings.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's not it's not a lot. If you
if you think about Olympic sized swimming pools, I mean,
if you can put water in your swimming yeah, that's a.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
Lot of water.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
You think about all this gold over the course of
centuries of human human existence, that's not a lot of
gold over.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
I think they say the majority of the world's gold
is at the bottom of the old So if we
can just figure out how to dredge so deep, we
might actually be able to get it. But they might
be talking about the Bearing Sea out there where they
where they dredge out there too, right, I thought.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
That was for crabs, the Bearing Sea.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Yeah, a lot of snow crabs and such out there,
but fishing too. But yeah, they know they do have
some gold mining and stuff where they've got these small
bolts and stuff with the with the sluice and where
they pumped the wall sand up.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
And I've seen that bearing sea gold. I've seen that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
That's fun shows. Actually yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Yeah, I was here and the other day, but we
were talking about gold and precious metals and diamonds and
all these things, and and doctor Tyson was talking about
think about what's actually more rare and we take for
granted is wood, you know, because it's so abundant on Earth.
He said that in the universe that's so rare we
don't even know where it exists. He's like, there's planets
that's made of diamonds. There's planets and commets or whatever

(01:05:54):
made of gold. You know that there's no wood anywhere
else except for right here, nothing, you know what?

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Well, yeah, who knows what kind of life?

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
The way you think of things.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. That's perspective.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Absolutely no. As far as as far as this stuff,
you know, alternative currencies and not, I mean, look at
this crypto. So when they talk about bitcoin, what do
they always reference value.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
To the market the dollar?

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
Yeah, not the market the dollar dollar.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
That makes me a very Oh I got you, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Exactly. So that should tell you all you need to know. Okay,
if they reference it's not like they say it's against
the end, or it's against gold, or it's against you know.
I mean if they were telling us that one bitcoin
is worth you know, one ton of gold, Okay, but
they're not. They reference it to the dollar. Why because
that's a task and admission that the dollar is not
going away and that the bitcoin, the value the everybody

(01:06:55):
puts on it is tied to the dollar in one
way or another. Bottom line.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Interesting, yep, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Right, a big What gives bitcoin any value? I'm still
having a hard time WITHO.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
It's limited availability, it's yeah, I agree, and it's and
it's and it's and it's purported security that you can't
hack it. But if you've worked the National Security Agency
with supercomputers, you might dispute that. It just it no matter.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
I don't see any concept.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
The concept of blockchain is something that people think is impregnable.
Nothing is impregnable humans, but trust.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Me that's true. So it is the shutdown going to
happen or is it going to come to an end
tonight or what?

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
I don't know. Todd, because they had a procedural vote
to go with the vote for this had to vote
are we going to vote? It was two thirteen to two.
Oh nin's not every member of House is voted. It
passed and a simple majority of Republicans held their ground,
and so it goes to another vote tonight. So I
don't I don't know if they voted. When we went
on air, they had not voted yet, so I hadn't
checked it because I was so enthralled by the conversation
that right I.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Thought Sunday it was over. You know, I thought they
had voted.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
I guess, yeah, no, No, that's okay. First off, it
wasn't over Sunday because Sunday all the Senate did. I
had to explain this to my viewers on my program,
what because a lot of them are overseas and they
don't know the system that col off America stone of
the system. But Sunday what happened is that in order
to get this measure on the floor, you had to
have a cloture vote, and the cloture vote you need
sixty people to agree to vote on it. So they

(01:08:17):
got the eight Democrats after they lost Ram Paul, and
it got the sixty, which was the votes they needed
under the filibuster rule. So they got cloture, which means
now they can put the vote on the floor. They
couldn't do it until then, so they put the vote
on the floor Monday. They voted for it. Now it
goes to the House. The House has shown up coming
back to town on Tuesday because they're a out screwing off.
And then today this afternoon, late this afternoon before six thirty,

(01:08:38):
about six o'clock, they voted on it, a procedural vote
to go forward. Now they're supposed to vote this evening.
I don't know the current state of it. I was
probably looking a line before I go to bed tonight,
and they probably will approve it, but then it must
go to the President's desk. That said, it's very real
possibility the president will sign it tonight. That said, this
just gets us to the end of January, kicks a
can down the road. That's it, right, And so.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
We're back to this point come January time frame, right, correct.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
And in the meantime, they've weaseled three lines of the
budget to be paid the rest of the year. I
believe their Defense and then the Aviation and the Department
had coach for food stamps. I believe I stand for
correction on it. But those three budgets will be approved
through the fiscal year at the current spending rate, so
they won't shut down and they'll be paid. So I think, look,

(01:09:23):
this is not ideal, but the Democrats can wear this millstone.
They created this mess. It's their tar baby. They earned it.
And it's comical to see these idiots like some you know,
special election, just vote elected some Democrat in the Congress
filling a vacancy, and she's like, well, this president who
stole food from hungry people, and now the president didn't.
So let's recap that very quickly. Be for I take

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a pause here and catch a breath. The Democrats froze
spending by not approving a cloach or not approving a
continuous resolution. Thirteen times during the Biden administration, they signed
a continued resolution along with Republicans to continue to the government,
so they never had a budget this four years. Fourteen
times they voted down the exact act, same bill, flat
spending bill. Now we have a non flat spending bill

(01:10:03):
that gives them some what they want, and they go
along with them. But here's the thing. They said, Trump
has to feed people, but the federal government has no
authority to spend money to give food stamps out. So
the argument was, well, they can use contingency funds that
are in the Department culture. That's not what they're for.
The contingency funds Department culture are for natural disasters or
earthquakes or the Soviet Union attackers or something like that.

(01:10:25):
It's not to make payments in what should come out
of the regular appropriations. So it's illegal for the present
to use that money to pay for food stamps. Yet
they said he was starving people because he wouldn't use
that money. Then a federal judge, violating the law, order
the Trump ministration to make those payments in violation of
federal law and of the Constitution. So Trump then they
went because what's going to happen is if he spent

(01:10:47):
that money. If he doesn't spend these evil if he
spends it. Ahah, See, he's lawless. He just broke them.
And that's what they were trying to do. They put
him in a Joseph Heller Cash twenty two situation. And
so now the Supreme Court has said that the Trump
adnistration can spend that money. It's against the constitution, and
so that's where we're at. But they're still blaming Trump,
But it's the Democrats. You didn't vote, so we will

(01:11:07):
get resumption of food stamps probably by tomorrow morning, if
the President of Science is tonight. And that's kind of
where we're at. But the Democrats are trying to blame
Trump and all the media, including the Washington Times, going
around talking about how this was a landmark election for
the Democrats. What are you people smoking who thought in
their right mind that the Virginia was going to vote
for a black woman. You know, all these Democrats are racist.
We knew wouldn' vote for black women. Did I say

(01:11:28):
that out loud? I think I said it out loud, right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
It's funny is the part parts of Virginia that voted
for the black woman win some seers, by the way,
It is the places that they make fun of, you know,
the Southwest Virginia, the.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
Toothless, uneducated white racists. They're the ones that vote for
the racists.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
But they're the ones who overwhelmingly voted for for crying
out loud, not only this go around, but whenever she
ran for a lieutenant government.

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
But the leftist whites, the blacks and the brown folks
that live in loudon County and and Montgomery are those
counties right along the border there. They voted for the
white lady. The didn't vote for black lay. But Virginia
was never going to go for Winston's years, even though
she was an idyl Canada former marine. And then New Jersey.
Genarelli had his chance last time he came close, didn't
get there. This that wasn't even close. So who thought

(01:12:11):
New Jersey was going to go? There's no way. The
bedroom communities of northern Virginia made the decisive impact on
that election and won. At Virginia. The bedroom communities of
Manhattan on the other side of the Hudson River made
the decisive impact and turned this that's full of immigrants
and people of color and a bunch of wacky doodles
on top of that. And then New York City. Who
in the right mind thought that that mom Dommy wasn't

(01:12:32):
going to win? The fact they only got fifty percent
in an election year in which only about twenty five
thirty percent of the election showed up is a much
more telling story to me. And that proposition fifty out
in California, I mean, most Republicans are leading the state,
so their votes aren't there anymore. They're now in Idaho
and Utah and California. I mean in Texas and Florida
and not California. So I mean, that wasn't a landmark

(01:12:53):
election for the Democrats. They don't have the wind at
their back. Those were expected wins. But the media are
trying to play this up if they've had a big
victory here. They don't have a big victory here. I mean,
it's just a false analysis.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
No, But it's funny, is they underperformed the expectations to
to say that it's a big win for them is
not the truth at all. They lost to the lost
boats exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
For Gidia stopped being conservative state some time ago. They
called a purple stase. I did a purple state anymore.
It's a blue state.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Let's be honest, right, I mean, yeah, you have you
know a few years ago whenever the current governor won,
it was an uproar because all the school board issues,
plus she had COVID, so they had a lot of
protests votes that came out as well.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
Well. Also, it was Terry mccaulli running again and people
detested Yeah it was enough of him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Yeah, people had enough or McCollough.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
Yeah, it was like it's like when players Glen Denning
finished his time and then his his lieutenant governor ran
against against Bob rl Like Bob Earlok won this state
because this incredible campaign and got just enough votes, but
also people were tired. She got blamed unfairly, Kathleen Kendy Towns.
She got blamed for Glenn Denny, who was a noxious
rogue who had an open affair while he was governor.

(01:13:59):
And it was just flaunty. It was just I mean,
having affair, that's whatever. But he was flaunting it and
it was and it was very it was very seen
unseemly and salacious situation and unfairly to Kathleen kennedy talent,
and it kind of stuck to her. But you know what,
I don't care another Kennedy. We don't need. And also
she was a terrible Candon Barberic was a fantastic governor
of Maryland. Unfortunately he had a sixty three percent approval

(01:14:22):
rating amongst all voters on the eve of the election
and lost the election of Martin O'Malley. Do you know why,
because he was a Republican. That's the only reason he lost.
People weren't dissatisfied with him, but they voted for the
Democrat who propably went in and squandered the entire two
billion dollar surplus that early had built up in the
treasury and then put the state of Maryland four billion
dollars more in debt and raised taxes on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Top of that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Thank you, Democrats had stupid voters in Maryland.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
There you go, John, Here, here's this out of the
Granite State. And I've never heard of this publication. I
saw it online today. It's the Granite Ego. I don't
know where that comes from or whether it's just online,
but there's a person running for the first congressional district there,
Elizabeth Girard. And the headline says Gerard's congressional relaunch marked
by coordinated AI social media push. And of course it

(01:15:07):
says Elizabeth Gerard, Republican from Somersworth, relaunched her campaign for
New Hamphire's first congressional district this week, drawing attention online
but not necessarily from New Hampshire. Let me go to
this first paragraph. It says, within hours of her campaign's announcement,
a series of posts appeared on x from a range
of right leaning or pro Trump accounts. Each post praised

(01:15:27):
Gerard in nearly identical language, describing her as a Trump
Republican America first, patriot or warrior, et cetera, et cetera,
And a lot of the language is the same. So
it looks like this person, you know, basically got a
bunch of AI bots to basically help her relaunch her
campaign and make her relevant. There are you hearing anything

(01:15:47):
about that up there where you're.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
At or you're giving me news. I haven't heard this
one yet, but when you're telling me this, but mine's
going to a certain direction. There is a gentleman by
the way of Network Chuck on YouTube. Okay, I don't
know if you ever heard of, but check out if
you like technology. So since I've been starting to get
into the ais and AI bots and stuff like that,
I spent a lot of time talking to different bots
and getting to understand how AI works and started looking

(01:16:11):
at some stuff online. Now Network Chuck was showing if
you know how to use Terminal and Saya Buntu, you
can take and solicit these bots to do work for you. So,
like say, if he wants to put together a show,
he'll have a bot like say Claude Claud seems to
be his favorite, and he'll start having to do certain
things like writing and things like that. But he'll also

(01:16:32):
have Claude go out and solicit other agents, and so
he'll have four or five different bots I'm one terminal
doing all different sorts of work. So they're doing work
rather rapidly and putting something together at a rapid paste.
Because of coordinating, you can get these guys in service
like running a team, like if you have your own
little company or something, you know, in these teams. And
it sounds to me like she has a tech guy
or something that puts together all these bots, and they're

(01:16:53):
making comments and stuff on her social media, trying to
build her up like their individual right persons, when in
fact it's so it's fraudulent. It's what it is. I
hate to say it because she sounds like she's a Republican.
Now I hate to say republican's doing this, but to me,
it sounds kind of fraudulent. And I find a little
bit on the concerning side, right, well, a lot on
the concerning side.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
I just saw that today, but you know, I was like,
I wonder if you heard anything about it, and of course,
if this is some sort of scandalist going over in
the first district, maybe we get somebody from that that
area wants to come on and talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Think I got to do my due diligence and check
into this, Todd and see what's really going on. I mean,
it sounds interesting to me. And I don't mean to
falsely accuse her because I don't know anything what she's doing,
but uh, you know, it sounds interesting and at least,
if nothing else, give her a chance to explain what's
going on. If it looks that way.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
Right, that's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Maybe we reach out or maybe have you reached out
to the campaign or her directly, and see if we
can get her on as a guest if you want
to defend herself or talk about it in more, or
if somebody knows something out there, maybe they want to
call in to the show, or you know, let us
know more.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
And I do believe our signal may be reaching somewhat
into the first district, maybe not very not real real deep,
but somewhat in there, so it might be good for
her at least to explain it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Thought I thought it'd be interesting just throw it out
there see what happens. Right, So I'm looking at headlines here.
I don't see that anything has changed as far as
voting to keep the get the government back open. So
nothing as of yet from what I'm seeing. So there
we go.

Speaker 4 (01:18:24):
Well, yeah, they're supposed to vote to that. I don't
know if they're going to vote. I would assume they are,
but we'll have to wait and see.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Yep. Just looking, oh, ty, here we goes a new
top Catholic bishop. No communion for pro abortion politicos. So
if you're a politico looking to get some sort of communion, yeah,
he says, no, go Cokeley, Archbishop of Oklahoma City, is
going to deny anybody who's pro abortion communion. So interesting,
So you think about people like Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden,

(01:18:52):
all those types who receive community on a regular basis,
when the popes would come to town, into d c
or what have you. I guess he's going to say,
knowed that I like the idea right. I thought the
church was against the abortion rights.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Usually thought usually they are, I mean the Christian churches.
I mean you can't say the church right, because there
was different different.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
No, I'm saying that the Catholic Church in context, right, yeah, Oh,
Catholic Church was always staunch against as far as I know, Right,
But you got to think about you have these pro
these politicos like Nancy Pelosi, who is Catholic, Joe Biden
and who would you know, regularly meet Obviously I get
it as a government official, you're meeting with the pope
from that standpoint, but at the same time, a lot
of times they abul to receive community or blessing or

(01:19:33):
whatever from them, and I'm like, I thought that was
against the church's doctrine.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Well, wasn't there a time when the Pope refused it
said that they weren't allowed, you know, because they can
do that. They can like basically ostracize their parishioners for
inappropriate behaviors if they're bringing poor conduct upon the on
the congregation or so I thought there was a time
that he was and I thought it had something to
do with Pelosi or somebody up there high up about

(01:19:57):
some of her behaviors or public behaviors.

Speaker 6 (01:20:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Absolutely. So here's another headline, and this is a biographer
instant from Fox News. Biographer urged Epstein to bash Trump
for political cover and newly released emails. Michael Wolfe suggested
anti Trump messaging could repair sex traffickers public image in
twenty sixteen exchanges. According to released emails, I'm like, how
sick is somebody that they're trying to help you you

(01:20:22):
regain your reputation by bashing Trump. I'm like, you pedal
in the flash, my friend, especially for underage girls and
human trafficking. No amount of bashing one political political figure,
even if it's a bomber or hitler, I don't care.
It's going to help repair your image here, my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
You know, there's been a lot going around with the
left on Trump and Epstein saying Trump was the what
do you call them, the non barking dog.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Of Yeah, what what was that all about?

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
So basically the left is trying to attack Trump and
a line Trump because this whole thing that felt went
down with uh, Trump and BONDI apparently didn't about face
according to most people, and said there's nothing there, there's
nothing to investigate. Of course, all that data and stuff
was within the Biden administration.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
For all we know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
They destroyed evidence. We don't know what's going on. We're
just out here on the outside. But so now they're
trying to say Trump must be guilty of something. He's
trying to hide his own guilt. So now now they're
coming out recently with this news that Trump is somehow
aligned with Epstein in the past and spent hours with
some girl or something like that, that Epstein had actually

(01:21:24):
made emails or comments to somebody regarding such matters, like
they're trying to hold Trumpet a negative. Like I want
to point out the people human trafficking wasn't a great
consideration to Congress. I mean, they made some laws, and
they did put the Department of Homeland Security in charge
of things what's that blue something we can call in
for make reports and things like that, but there was

(01:21:46):
no great effort, no great interest that I've really seen
until Trump came into office is forty five. Then you
started seeing some real and true action against team and trafficking.
Trump brought forth a lot of force and a lot
of effort to fight human trafficking. And now they're trying
to trying to impose this idea that he was involved

(01:22:07):
in soliciting girls and stuff with Epstein, And it's nonsense,
that's what it is. It's absolutely total nonsense. As far
as i'm concerned. The reason why Epstein got arrested is
because Epstein ran a Trump circles. He knew what Epstein did,
and in my personal opinion, I think Trump's pretty much
guy who looked at the DHS or the FBI and said,
you need to investigate that guy. I'll give you some
inside scoops.

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
I have an update here, guys. Moments ago, the vote
was concluded. The vote was two twenty two to two
oh nine to concur on the Senate amendment. Therefore, it
would go to the President's desk here in a few
minutes as soon as they finished the paperwork. Two hundred
and sixteen Republicans voted in the affirmative, two voted against
the bill. Six Democrats crossed the aisle to vote with
the Republicans. Two hundred and seven demon rats voted against

(01:22:49):
continuing the government. Final countless two twenty two to two
oh nine. The bill goes to the President's desk for signature.
We have a continuing resolution that should be signed tonight.
The government should be able open tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
So the issue was why do we have to keep
going through these struggles? I mean, why is this keep it?

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
Because we have idiots in Congress who can't pass a budget.
And this has been a recurring problem for over thirty years.
You know, it's ironic. When I was in Liberia, the
government of Library which was nascent, it was brand new.
They just rebuilt the government after the civil war, and
our politicians and are in our pluses, our diplets had
the audacity to chide the library and government because they

(01:23:27):
were fourteen days past the end of their fiscal year
without a budget. And I'm thinking, we're fourteen years passed
a fiscal year, we haven't got a budget, and you're
actually libraries. About a week later they had a budget,
Like wow, they got a budget within three weeks. Here
I am. I haven't seen a budget approved on time
in forty years.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
You know this year, this year, they approved some sort
of budget, but they never really fully approve a budget.
And this is why we keep having these these continue
as resolutions. Are like, hey, this emergency popped up and
we got to come up with some emergency funds we
didn't account for during our budgeting. That's what a continued
resolution is for as far as I know. But they're
using a continued resident seurs simply to budget throughout the year.

(01:24:06):
Continuously and the financial jams, so do the uses for
like leverage. They do it on purpose, try not to
have a balanced budget, so they.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
O they're morons. That's the bottom line. This is what
you get when you vote for You vote for shyster
lawyers and better address used car salesman. That's that's what
you get. Is this is what we vote for. We
are to blame for our governance. We elected the Jasmine
Crockets and the Chucky Schumers and the Mitch mcconnells who
were eighty five thousand years old and incontinent. I mean,

(01:24:36):
it's our fault. Nancy Pelosi, a scam artist who's made
hundreds of millions of hours off of insider trading. We
elected her, not me, but idiots in San Francisco. We
are to blame the American public.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
I did know Chuck Schumer was the crip keeper. Do
you know the exact day he was born? At eighty
five thousand years ago?

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
Well, I was close at eighty seven thousand. I was
rounded down.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Oh okay, yeah, Nancy Pelosa not gonna but her net
worth increase what it's something like seventeen thousand percent whenever
since he came into office or something. I mean, nobody's
wealth and history has increased like hers, except for maybe
some billionaire. But even their percentage, you can at least

(01:25:15):
account from where they got their money, Like say somebody
like I don't know, just pick a random billionaire. We
know where they got their money from. Nancy Pelosi, you
gotta from inside of trading. You didn't create anything.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
They do business.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
They passed the Stock Act in twenty twelve. They already
had laws against inside trader and trading in Congress, and
the Stock Act was bought disclosures and stuff like that,
which many of them just violate this disclosure laws and
take the fines. It's only a couple hundred dollars or something.
And the thing about the Stock Act is it doesn't
prevent them from becoming advisors to trading groups, so it

(01:25:48):
kind of hides where their money's being traded and stuff,
and they're advising how it should be traded, which is
to a greater benefit to the group, I suppose. But yeah,
so they kind of got their little loophole and that's
how she gets around it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Yep, absolutely absolutely. So government reopens tomorrow, so.

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
Simply President's got to sign it and I don't see
the reason why I won't sign it, but yes.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
So how much debt is this going to give us
on top of the thirty eight trillion we already have.

Speaker 4 (01:26:15):
Well, what's interesting is that we only spent, we didn't
spend about fifty five billion dollars in the past forty days.
So money, I mean, we spent plenty of money, but
that's money we did spend. It was discretionary. So that's
fenty five billion we'll save this year. Some of that
will be paid in back sour but anyway, well, I
don't know what it adds in debt. It pretty much,
I guess continues to debt depends on what the income

(01:26:36):
is the government because it continues spending at present levels
so until the end of January, but for the other
three segments of the budget it continues throughout the year.
So we were one point eight trae in a debt
I think last year under Biden's last year, and so
you know, who knows were'll be. But we've got about
five hundred billion in teriff revenue that we did have
last year, so that should reduce it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
So we got to look at when Trump ends this year.
That's Biden's a lot of people misunderstand that. They think
the first year of the president is the president's that
trumpted budget this year.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Yeah, well, it looks like the White House is going
to sign it tonight at nine forty five, just so
you know, nine forty five eastern, will he will sign it?

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
So again, I'm sorry, I was I was distracted.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
Oh sorry, Yeah, So so the president, the White House
just put out that he will sign it tonight at
nine forty five eastern.

Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
So okay, there you go to nine forty five. That's perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
There you go, so nobody, nobody can complain anymore, right
at this point, right.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
Well, it's going to be good news for a lot
of people, particularly around the world who are waiting for
the US covery to get back on track here and
specifically for the South African refugees who are waiting to
come over now they can come to America. And for
me once again, you know, I'm just going to say that,
you know, I think at some point I'm just going
to have a migraine or as the British like to say,
a me grain from being working all the time, always

(01:27:54):
being correcked. You know, I always people tried to try
to sharpshoot me and tell me that I didn't know
what it's talking about. And I explained why the refuge
can come over. I said, it's because there's no one
to process them. People are on furlough. We don't have
enough people there. Some people work in the cases. But
how come they're still doing well. We have contractors that
have multi year contracts and they're performing services they're being
paid under the contract. Isn't it's money already allocated. It's

(01:28:15):
already there. It just gets dispersed so they can continue
to work to process refues for screening and medical and
all that. But they can't come to the States because
there's no one to take them to the airport that's
an American official, and there's no one to be on
this end to receive them, and no one to process
in between. And I was told that no, it's the
presidential termination. I said, well, that isn't your main that
needs to be done. But that's not the hold up.

(01:28:35):
The hold up is the government shutdown. Now, the government
shutdowns over. Not a single refue is coming here since
September twenty sixth, and now they'll start coming. At what
point I don't know I did cost if people could
take ten to twelve days, but I think that there
were prudent I get indications that what they did is
they book travel just in case the government to reopen.
So if people have a ticket for next week, they
may still be coming next week. So we can have

(01:28:55):
people coming over very quickly. So get ready for that, folks,
South Africa are coming back over the States here very soon.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
So a lot of people have concerns with immigration that
people don't really want to assimilate when they get here.
They'd rather we assimilate to them. And so how do
South Africans feel about this when they're coming here. I mean,
I'm thinking they're probably pretty happy. This is an opportunity
for them and they're looking for assimilation. They want to
become Americans.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
Well, first off, let me go back to first point there.
If people come to America's immigrants, not refuges, but people
come to American's immigrants and they expect us to change
our ways, that's not immigration, that's colonization.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Colonization.

Speaker 4 (01:29:32):
Yeah, they're trying to colonize us. If they're you know,
seeing this American mom saying that you know people who
are Islamophobic, don't worry about them because all their children
be Muslims. Well, that's not assimilation, that's that's an effort
to colonize our country with a faith that only a
small number Americans share. But the South Africans, Yeah, I know,
the South Africans, that's what's I mean. I just saw

(01:29:52):
a story from Maine from a refue assistance center that
was published yesterday talking about well, there's only fifty of
them coming there aren't aren't the reason they say this?
They already have small communities or well not that small
of Somalis and Congolese. They're already been located there. So
what they do is put the refuees near them, so
they have like their own little get No, it's not
their on ghetto, so they have their own little support
based that people who are like mine, which makes easier

(01:30:13):
for them not to learn English, not to adapt our ways,
not to accept our society. And I disagree with them.
Put the refugees somewhere and give them assistance, and then
they'd better make it under them. That's how it should do it.
That's what's gonna happen in South Africans. And they were
kind of like we're worried the South Africans, so there's
only a small number of them coming over, you know,
in fifty of them, we can't put them the communities, so
we're gonna put in places by themselves. They're South African.
They come from a country with twelve official languages. Every

(01:30:35):
South African speaks some English, even if they're not fluent
in it. Relas, they come from a country that has electricity,
that has humanizations, that has automobiles, It has highways and bridges.
They may be falling apart, but they still have them,
and these people will be fine. You don't need to
worry about. All you need to do is make sure
that you don't drop someone into town without a house,
without food, you know, without a soci security card, you know,
and things like that. Help them get those things started,

(01:30:56):
and after a couple of months they'll be self starters
and they'll make it all happen. I mean, I already
know of at least two of the refues I've been
abut to making six figure incomes after only been here
for three or four months. I know others who are
very successful with farming already. I know couples who've moved
for different parts of the country for job offers. A
couple that move from Iowa on their own, leave the
refuge support behind, moving to Kentucky to run a poultry farm.

(01:31:17):
They're doing fantastic, and the list goes on and on.
Those who have not done well are a few who
are insular, who didn't do well in South Africa and
we brought them over here, and unfortunately they let them
go to places where they shouldn't let them go because
they listen to what they want instead of what the
government should have decided. Anyway, so we've had a couple
of cases, but mostly but nobody's starving. Nobody's going hungry.

(01:31:39):
Refuges don't starve. I mean, I've been to Twin Falls,
Idaho and Chobanni, which has a massive yogurt factory out
there built by a Turkish immigrant in this country, and
he hires hundreds of refugees. I mean, it's like the
United Nations. I was there for, you know, family Day.
The timing was perfect. I happened to be in Twin
Falls during family Day for Chobanni, and I was invited
to go there because two of the refuees from South Africa,

(01:31:59):
one of them who works there and I went there
for family day, and like I said, it's like it's
like I mean, there's there's there's there's there's people on
the bias here. There's there's Tanzanians, there's Burundians. I talked
to guy from Bruneian line I wait to get on
it because you couldn't take your car that you had
to take the bus from the parking lot. And so
I talked to this guy from Bruney. He's got his
whole family. Then you know, it's uh so this nonsense
about the South African is not being able to adapt,

(01:32:21):
it's just that they'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
Oh I thought so too. And my you know, in
regard to my question, I kind of already knew the
answer to the question, and people here are confirming it
here in the comments where I don't want to put
your name, so you know, sorry if I don't say
your name. But I'll be coming to America to become American. That's,
you know, type of answers I would expect if you
get the opportunity to be approved for the refugee program

(01:32:43):
to the US, we'll be proud of American patriots. That's
what I'm talking.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
A good deal well, hopefully you get your opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
For sure, not but it'll drop their culture or anything.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
But you know, so you don't want to come in
and post sharia. I mean, oh that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Yeah, I like that. I like that. Like I say,
you know, nobody especially going to be dropped their culture
or anything. I mean, you've come from a different place.
You're going to have your own little nuances and things
like that. You know, if people speak Spanish, they speak Spanish,
they want to speak Spanish in the home, they should
be allowed to.

Speaker 6 (01:33:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
If they want to go on the streets and speak
Spanish to one another, they should be allowed to. It's
not an issue. The issue is just one. They demand
that we cater to them or assimilate to them, and
we've seen that here in the United States, and it
becomes concerning because the left defense is so hard and
says we should, we should, Like you said, this is colonizing.
It's nonsense.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
If I want to live in an environment where I'm
speaking Spanish and I want to enjoy my life and
be part of that and immerse myself the culture, I
will move to Chile. But I'm not moving to Chile.
I'm living in America, I speak six languages. Learn our
language or hit the road. Jack. You know it's comical
because I had a voter as a judge, an assistant voter,

(01:33:51):
And this is a story that I'm okay with because
the guy need assistance because he wasn't sure he could
understand about fully English. He immigrated here legally, his daughter
was born here and she's a teenager. I won't give
him a free pass because he should have been able
to understand this better by now. But he speaks in Isswana,
but he wasn't sure he was comfortable, so out of

(01:34:12):
abundance of caution, he asked if he could assist assistant voter.
So his daughter came. I sat down and I explained
everything to him and he understood it. And then he
had one or two questions, and then she explained what
I said in Spanish, and I known of Spanish that
she's explained it correctly. But when he finished voting, I
was explaining to him how we're putting it at the
envelope here on what's going on. Then he spoke English
to me because he felt more comfortable. I'll give someone

(01:34:34):
a free pass like that. That guy's made an effort.
He could make a better effort here, but he's made
an effort. But people will come here and we're forced
to put ballots in Jmung or forced to put ballots
in Vietnamese, were forced put ballots in Mandarin or in Spanish.
That's nonsense. Now, how could you be American not speak
the language of our land? And I don't want to
hear this more multiculture, that's nonsense. We made a constant

(01:34:54):
decision not to have a national language, but to adopt
English as a informalized and now it is the formal
language of her go at least thank you Trump for that.
But it's absolutely insane. You know, first off, you can't
vote unless you're an American citizen. You can't become an
American citizen with the exception of having served in the
military for three years honorably then you can apply. So
nobody becomes a citizen in less than three years, usually
four years and more. Most people it's five to eleven

(01:35:17):
years before they become assistants. If you've been here five
to eleven years and you don't speak English, get the
hell out. You have no business being here. I'm sorry.
Does that offend you?

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Good right, Well, we'll take out of this headline from newsmachs.
Trans members of the Air Forces sues over losing retirement pay.
A group of seventeen transgender member of the Air Force,
I would say former members. It's suing the US government
over what they say is the military's unlawfulification of their
early retirement pension and benefits. The lawsuit, filed in federal

(01:35:47):
court Monday, comes several months after the Air Force confirmed
that it would deny all transit or service members who
have served between fifteen and eighteen years the option to
retire early, and would instead separate them without retirement benefits. Colonel,
what are your thoughts on this predicament for these folks?

Speaker 4 (01:36:03):
Say that again? Sorry, I had a hiccup on my broadcast.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Oh sorry, So basically seventeen transmitters that are being Oh yes, yeah,
it's there was a hiccup here.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
I thought it miss part all right, So yeah, I
think that's utter nonsense, utter nonsense. I mean, look, this
is a malicious lawsuit. It's a nuisance lawsuit. It's attention
getting lawsuit. I don't think there's a merited without knowing
all the facts in the case, it just sused to
mean one that's a nuisance lawsuit. What do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Yeah, so fifteen to eighteen years. It's one of those
things like they were so close. But if the military
is not offering an early retirement, then sorry that it's
not an option for you. If you're being separated for
violating rules, regulations, policies, laws, whatever, you know, that's just
the name of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:36:41):
Sorry, Well, I mean there's another option. Take your dress off.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Right, absolutely, stop stop being that way. And most of
them are probably doing it for some sort of attention,
I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
Look, I mean, first off, I mean this is a
hard one have empathy on because it was taken to
such extremes. We have a lieutenant colonel wearing a skirt
with piercedeer rings. Right, I'm asking a voice not going
through sexual reassignment surgery after having been in the military
for sixteen years and the completely undermined confidence in the
chain of command and completely confused soldiers. And we have

(01:37:11):
we have transgender in the military who were demanding that
people who prosecuted on the Uniform Code of Military Justice
for misgendering them. I mean, this is just ridiculous, absoluteiculous.
Today your commander is as a man, and a week
later it comes back from leave and he's wearing a dress.
And all he did was go to his physician and say,
I feel like a woman. And by the way, that's
all you had to do. That's all you had do

(01:37:32):
until Trump stopped that you didn't. You didn't have to
didn't have to have a psychological evaluation, you didn't have
to be on hormone therapy, you didn't have to have
sexual assignment surgery. All you had to do is say
I feel that I'm the wrong gender, and then your
primary care physician in the military had to put that
in your record, and then they had to contact your
commander and say that this person is now a man
or a woman. That's just utter nonsense, and it was

(01:37:52):
open to such abuse. And unfortunately for genuine transgenders, for
true transgender out there, most of them aren't in the
military because, let's be honest, until recently, this is classified
as a mental illness, right, and so it was a
bar to enlistment. Now we were gonna say, but people
hid this. Yeah, okay, fine, then you know you can't
do two years. You can't suck it up. You know,

(01:38:13):
I had to keep my mouth shut about politics for
thirty six years? Do you think that was fun I
was ready to explode after thirty six years of what
I put up with.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
So the quote san I twin, the only thing you'd
have to do is say, man, I feel like a woman.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
Is right?

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Yeah, that's funny. That song game to mind for me too.
Then I started thinking, what was that song about? Natural woman?

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
Yeah, you go try to that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
Yeah. So, Venezuela mobilizes forces as US carrier in his
Caribbean escalating tensions. Oh, Venezuela has one of a massive
military mobilization after the arrival the US Aircraft Carrier Strike
Group and the Caribbean escalating intensions of mid President Donald
Trump's expanded war on drugs trafficking in the region. Defense
Minister of Vladimir Patronov Lopez announced Monday that almost two

(01:39:02):
hundred two hundred thousand troops had been placed on full
operation readiness. I'm like, well, two hundred thousand that would
get decimated by a carrier task force pretty quickly, my friend, Sorry, yeah,
what what are your thoughts about sending a carrier task
force off the coast of Venezuela. Colonel I I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
I love it. I love to see the Venezuelan communist panic. Uh.
This this is fantastic. I mean, dree Ford is our
biggest carrier. I love it. This, this is, this is
just I'm this is. I've got a bag of popcorn
I picked up at Jens. I'm waiting for this is.
You know, I was, I was. I was in the
Golf War and other conflicts, so I couldn't watch CNN

(01:39:41):
as you know, the war unfolded. So I'm ready to
get the popcorn out with a little bit of V
eight there cocktail juice and just enjoy this.

Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
It's it's, it's it's for me, it's it's it's comical
that to see them. You know, it's very simple. If
Venezuela needs to stop getting involved in narco terrorism and
then we won't have this problem problem solved. You know,
it's interesting. It's to me that the boats just keep coming.
Do they think that we don't know they're there?

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
You bone?

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
Yeah, And I have another comment about that since she
brought it up, the British British have decided not to
share intelligence information. Was because the Trump administration is not
disclosing how they're targeting this now. Britain is part of
the Five Eyes community, and I think they should be suspended.
Now that's problematic because the way we're tied together, intelligence
systems are linked everything. But I think that we should
take something back if they're going to be an unreliable
partner in the Five iceed community like New Zealand was

(01:40:28):
for a while. In fact, there are some things in
the Five Ice community we actually didn't share with New
Zealand because they're an unreliable partner. But then they should
not have access to the most precious of secrets that
the English speaking world comes up with from its surveillance
and intelligence programs. And you know, she send a message
to the people who've sold the Disunited Kingdom down the
river to become a caliphate, and so they should get

(01:40:48):
the message absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
I can't cannot trust them. I mean, they've let their
whole country go. And I know we have proportions of
our society that want to do the same thing here.
But thankfully there's enough of us that are pushing back
saying no. But how long can we can we hold
off against it?

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
You know? Well, look, this is uh, I'm kind of
torn about what we're doing here. My my answer would
have been much more likely that my smarter move would
be to use the military to detain these boats international
waters and then prosecute them rather than blowing them up.
But I mean, I get why he's doing it. I
understand it. I mean, you know, if people want to

(01:41:26):
get upset, there was far a few people, far a
few people making big stink about Barack Obama murdering American
citizens with drones in Yemen. Then they're complaining about this. So,
I mean, these aren't American citizens, not that any less
important human beings.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
But what Okay, so we declared a war on drugs,
but what exactly does that detail? I mean, does this
really fall in line with warfare? I mean that war
declaration on war on drugs?

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
Was it more words or it's rhetoric.

Speaker 3 (01:41:53):
It's not rhets what I thought. So it's kind of
hard to lean on that and say it's warfare. But
at the same time, the thing about it is with drugs. Okay,
first of all, you pointed it out right, it's state sanctioned.
It's not like these guys were individuals taking action on
their own. You're saying it's state sanctioned by the country
of Venezuela. So that's one thing. The other thing is

(01:42:14):
these drug dealers are predators. Man, This is no joke.
If people don't understand this drug that is infiltrating our
country is destroying our country from within. We're seeing people
struggle horribly with drugs. We've known for years that drug
dealers are savvy. They've taken a corporate stance and how
they operate. They literally feed drugs to fifth graders to

(01:42:37):
get them hooked, so they have customers for life. So
we're forced to send our children to school, in which
case they infiltrate these schools and get our children hooked
on drugs. This is bullshtein and it's time for it
to stop. And it's time to see somebody like Donald
Trump have some backbone, stand up and get the job done.
No matter how hard it is and what it takes.
He's doing it. We got to protect our own.

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
Well a lot of those lines, you know, you've hit
on a key element here. If a state is behind this,
are we supposed it's like put this in this, in
this in this concept. Are we supposed to wait until
a threat lands on our shores before we stop it
before we interdict the threat. But again, to me, it's
it's a choice of whether you use lethal force or not.
I don't know lethal force is necessary. I'm not arguing

(01:43:22):
against or for it. I'm just being, you know, a
a neutral arbiter here. But I think interdiction is perfectly legitimate.
And I'm not arguing they're using deadly forces illegitimate. But
I personally, if I were present, I would used interdiction.
I mean, we have the forces, we can stop these people. Look,
it's but you get some crazy stuff. I mean, when
I was in Liberia, the French were interdicting drug trafficking

(01:43:43):
because we had cut down some of the routes coming
to America by by preventing some of the planes from flying.
We used to be a lot of planes to fly
across the land in Arizona, in Mexico and on strips
out in the desert with within the fly and low.
But we put a stop that. I won't discuss how
we did it, or they'll start doing it again, but
we put a stop to it for the most part.
And when that happened in the early part of the century,
suddenly the drug dealers started shipping their cocaine to West

(01:44:05):
Africa in transshipment to get to Europe. Uh. And that's
because they were trying to get to Europe with the stuff. Anyway,
what happened is the French were patrolling in the in
West Africa off the coast of Liberia and they found
a drug running ship and they chased it. Well, our
our our, our marine at Shan Defenseesche got on a
fast boat and went out to the French ship and

(01:44:26):
got on it. And as they were trailing, because they
were trailing this boat, they're taking their bags of cocaine
that are opening, ripping up up and it's flowing up
the way of course is blowing which way running back
to the French ship. So the marine and the and
the defense had to get a medical statement that if
they tested positive for cocade it wasn't because they were

(01:44:47):
just they looked like they looked like they're like snowman.
They were covered in cocaine.

Speaker 5 (01:44:54):
Man. It was.

Speaker 4 (01:44:54):
It was crazy, imagine and stuff like that. And that's
and that's why because we get drug tests in the military,
especially officers, you know, they're they're you know, in positions
like this. Anyway, So yeah, I I I wasn't asked
to go out that day. I'm glad I was out
in the bush it at the base where training troops.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
And then they came back.

Speaker 5 (01:45:12):
I saw it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
When they came back. He's like, dude, what did you did?
You just make a cake or something? You got flour
of it insan's cocaine like it was the marina. Like, dude,
that is not cool in the Marine Corps. Ease up
on the cook right, These are the fun stories of

(01:45:34):
military life.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
Are you going in some of those places overseas and
they're like smoking hook and you're like, they're not smoking
what you would think they're smoking something a little bit more,
you know, to be care well.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
I just had determined a couple of bartenders to sell.
People suggested me because we want. We caught one vaping
even though that's not allowed in the Veterans Club, you know,
and it says clearly no smoking, no tobacco products, no dip,
no vapor, and UH caught her on video and she
lied to me and said she wasn't vaping. So I
caught her a video and where's people like, you know,
you sure that she was using vape juice? I mean,
maybe there's something I thought about that. I guess, can

(01:46:06):
you use vape to do weed? I didn't think about that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
They all kinds of stuff now yeah, all sorts of
him weed, all sorts of products are available in vape
form as well. Now yeah, I mean any way to
get it as quick as possible. I guess people just
have to have it that way.

Speaker 3 (01:46:22):
In some of these states like Massachusetts, Colorado, California, Oregon
all illegally legalize this stuff. Go figure out how illegally legalized.
I mean, it's a federal crime. And it's funny because
you think about it. So they legalize it within their state,
encourage the cell of it, tax it. But it's still
a federal crime. So technically the Feds can come and

(01:46:43):
arrest these people for distributing illegal or controlled substances.

Speaker 4 (01:46:49):
Well there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Yeah, that means technically right.

Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
Donald Trump was once entertaining the fault. When he was
forty five. He made a thing. He says, you know,
I could arrest them, and it's not a half bad idea,
but he I think he decided it wasn't you know.
I mean, it's just we do I mean, we should
actually doungrade it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Well, then you're going to go have to arrest government
officials have been duly elected. At a state level, you're
gonna have to arrest governors, you know, all the state legislatures. Basically,
that's the issue.

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
Though.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
We're expected to follow the law, and they nullify federal
law and break federal law at the same time. And
it's okay because the government.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
Yeah, I get what you're saying, this is crap, but
it would probably just get tossed out as some nuisance
that you know, here's Donald Trump doing it again.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
You know, Oh that's what they go after him and
try to make him look bad for it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Oh sure, sure, absolutely, so he probably did the political math.
It's like, yes, it's not worth it trying to go
about it this way.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
It's not you affect a whole lot of people, and
you know, it's just not I think he just decided
to leave it to the states. And you know, as conservatives,
we're big on states rights. But I still say it's
bullstein because it's a federal law. You know, change the
law if you don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
It, understood, Yeah, absolutely, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
No, No, I was going to say, this is exactly right.
I thought, for a second John was going to mention
to the libertarian realm there, but that wasn't it. No,
it's states do have right, So there's sovereign states and
people forget that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
So I'm agree with that one hundred percent absolutely. So
between now next week, what is what is there going
to have going on? Anything special going on that we
should know about or maybe you're listening audience to be
aware of.

Speaker 4 (01:48:25):
Well, I'll be paying close attention to the reopening of
the government to see if the full of refugees makes
it over here. Honestly, if all the people who claim
that they're going to give me an interview as refues
and arriving in America follow through on that, I may
have to create a South African Refugees in America channel
just for it. But I suspect a lot of people
get busy with settling in their lives and I only
get a few of these interviews. But that may start

(01:48:46):
as early as this week. People arriving that want to
do interviews and talk about their experience. So yeah, I'll
be paying close attention to that. Plus it's still rugby
season and USA plays again this weekend against Romania and
South Africa's playing against Italy and that's kind of a
trap game. They had to careful not to fall into that.
And for me, it's finally maybe some breathing room here.
I've been so busy since July. I thought I was

(01:49:07):
not busy this week, but son of a gun, every
time I turn around, something new came up.

Speaker 6 (01:49:10):
So yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:49:11):
But but it looks like tomorrow I only aside from
a phone call and regular news reporting, I might actually
have some time. Oh no, no, it's the veterans tomorrow night,
as we have a BFW meeting. So at my meeting,
my day is so no. Maybe Friday, maybe Friday, I
have time myself anyway, that's I'm looking forward to a
few hours, sit down and read a magazine, read a book,
and you know, get that popcorn out and watch Venezuela explode.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
Wow. We'll see, yeah, John, what about you?

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
Well, not between well as for as me personally and I.
You know, I just work on stuff behind the scenes
right now. I'm building stuff, but I'm not anything I
want to announce. However, I don't know if you guys
enjoyed No King's Day, but Thursday of next week, on
the twentieth, I don't know if you've heard of remove
the Regime action happening in DC. So unfortunately we'll be

(01:49:59):
able to make fun of it on Wednesday. We have
to wait a week.

Speaker 4 (01:50:02):
Is that against Trump? Or to get rid of remove
the regime.

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
Means to get Trump and peached, is what they're trying to.

Speaker 4 (01:50:07):
I thought it was to get rid of bow Wow Bowser.

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
You know you wish I mean me too. I'd like
for him, but no, these are leftists and they you're
not getting rid of.

Speaker 4 (01:50:16):
Well, you know why, no more kings thing die because
I pointed out that you know that the king and
queen are of course, you know Nancy Pelosi thirty eight
years and Chucky Schumer forty years in the government as
your kings and queen.

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
Well, well there is that. I like Donald Trump's response
to it about thank you for recognizing that we have
no kings in the United States of America. We did
make that obsolete in seventeen seventy six, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
Yeah, And now Democrats are talking about having Chuck Schumer
resign and we'll see where that goes. There's gonna be
enough further and outrage, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
That would be awesome, That would be fun. I'd like
to see.

Speaker 4 (01:50:49):
We don't want him to go now he's proven to
be quite ineffectual.

Speaker 3 (01:50:54):
Absolutely, they all are.

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
But we've got to keep him around, keeping you know,
Pelosi around, as long as we can't keep using them
for more wins for the Republican Party and the Conservatism
for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:51:05):
Well, it's definitely all in our favorite because they are
nothing but serious losers. That's for darn Shore. Well, he's
proven how ineffectually he was. I mean, but I don't
know what the Democrats think they were going to accomplish here.
What I mean, do they think they're gonna win? I mean,
their propaganda machine is ginned up, the media is trying
to help them with Trump is starving babies and all
this other nonsense. But they've accomplished nothing here other than
hurting Americans.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
So, you know, you're familiar with the term desperate people
make desperate decisions, and that's what they are. They're just reaching,
they grasping for straws, are looking. It's like, what's his
name there, Kramer was saying. At the beginning of the year,
Jeffries was saying, we have no leverage. Where's our leverage? Well,
this is right, We're trying to find it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
Look, I get what you're saying, but the bottom line
is that stupid people should wear signs.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
Yeah, all right, folks, that's their music. We'll be back
next week seven to nineties and right here on ws
ME fifty ninety eight ninety five point three f M.
Until then, take care and God bless.

Speaker 6 (01:52:02):
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