The Common Sense Conservatives with Dave Heredia

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters, every Wednesday
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Ninety five point three FM, and.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Streaming live on WUSMN GOT Live making sense of the
inverted reality we are subject to you every day, the
Common Sense Conservatives like here to help bring you back
to reality. Now, your hosts, Chris Wyatt, Todd McKinley, and
John Gordan.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
All right, hey, folks, welcome back to the Commonsis Conservatives.
We're trying to figure out who has.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
The lead tonight.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I figure, hey, no one's gonna speak up after the
first thirty seconds or something.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
I do believe it's your turn, and that's another reason
why I'm stepping up to take the lead.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Just say, you guys know I'm just putting out there.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Well, it seems like a reasonable approach. Todd, we'll leave
it that chant it. Maybe it's your turn. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
All right, well, we got to guess for the first hour.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
If is the available John.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
By chance, absolutely, I'll go ahead and bring him in
out right.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, we have the National chairman for the American Legion Riders.
Here David Alreadia out of Maryland. It's not too closely
from the colonel here, former Department commander in Maryland, of course,
joining us tonight. We're going to talk about the Legion Writers,
your position, and of course what can the Legion writers
do for our nation, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
We're gonna jump into that.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
But David, tell everybody a little bit about yourself, your
background on how you got to this position.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Well, first of all, hello everybody, and it's it's a
privilege to be here with you and Todd. It was
great to meet you at convention. Yes, sir, did you
see what I have here? With me? Be the one rock?
There you go. I look at this every day for
inspiration on how how myself and others like me can
be the one to save a veteran's life. So there

(01:55):
you go. Thank you for having me. As you said,
I'm David Heredia. I'm gonna retire Army Chief worn Officer.
I got over twenty years of active duty and I
currently support the war fighter up at APG. But that aside,
I've been a member of the American Legion now going
on eighteen years, and as you said, I'm the past
Department Commander for the state of Maryland, a job that

(02:18):
I was truly humble as you are right right now
as the current state commander for Tennessee Old right, having
the opportunity to speak for the veterans in my state.
You know, we have over three hundred and fifty veterans
in Maryland and their families for a total close to
about four hundred and eighty and that includes active duty

(02:38):
Reserve Guard and the family members. Getting to work with
our local leaders on behalf of veterans as a state
commander was a great privilege. But over the last few years,
I've been serving as the assistant Chief Road Captain for
the National Legacy Run. Before we were supporting the leg

(03:00):
Sy Ghost Star Run, our Legacy Scholarship Fund, right, I'm sorry.
Here in Maryland, the Legacy Scholarship Fund, they were supporting
those nine to eleven veterans children and those veterans who
were fifty percent disabled in getting scholarship funds to go
to college. Our mission change to our current mission under
the Veterans and Children's Foundation. But but, uh, but I've

(03:23):
been doing duties on the Legacy Run for a few
years and uh, our current, our past immediate past chairman,
Mark Clark, I love like a brother.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Oh yeah, good man out of Missouri, yep.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Out of Missouri. Yeh uh, you know, step aside. Uh So,
I'm actually the fourth, the fourth national Chairman of the
American Legion Writers. Before me, there was past national Chairman
Terry Woodburn from the Department of Illinois, and uh after
him was Bob Sussen from the Departments of Virginia and Florida. Unfortunately,

(04:03):
both of those gentlemen are now.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Ever last tinging right, Yeah, sadly right.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
And then you know, like I said, our media pass
is Mark Clark, who took over and we continued the
legacy that those two gentlemen built. He continued that on
and now it's my term as the national chairman for
the American Legion Writers. And that's howhere I'm at today
and there we go. And for me, it's deeply humbling

(04:28):
in an honor to serve, like I said, as the
fourth national chairman, right, And I'm grateful for our National
Commander Dan Wiley, who you've met, yes, Ernship of the
American Legion for this opportunity to take this position. And
I take this position surely, and because I feel that
the writers are focused community on communities, bringing awareness to

(04:51):
our brand, we are forced to be reckon with especially
when we ride in large numbers.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
And I know your friend Bob, who yeah, I met
a few years ago when we went through Tennessee, knows
the strength of the roaring of those motorcycles as we
come down the road right and visit a city. So
that show there we go.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
When we turned over to the colonel, Colonel Chris White
out of Central PA, we didn't go around the horn,
but before that, but our listeners note the colonel. Of course,
he's got some great questions for you, and then we'll kind
of come back and we'll end up with me at
the very end here.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
But colonel go ahead, sir, well Todd, that's a bout
of confidence. We have any chatts and I guess you're
sending my past performance and I have good questions. But
thank you for that. So first off, for many of
our audience, I think you mentioned an acronym people aren't
filling with APG. That's Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland at
at the top of the Chesapeake Bay up there, and
it's a place where one of my former nco is

(05:43):
went to test Soviet equipment back in the day, and
they do a lot of things up there. Yeah, so
everyone to ask you about this. I think a lot
of people are familiar with this. We also have international audience,
not just one here in the States with the riders.
I became acquainted with the riders when became a member
of my local Veterans of Foreign Worst posts that had
a writers group. And the writers are folks who get

(06:05):
together and ride motorcycles, correct, and then they do activities
to raise awareness and raise funds for folks, which is
kind of think what you're getting out. Sure a while
ago there, Cay tell us a little bit about the riders.
I mean, can you describe a little bit better than
I did. I mean, that's just a layman's description. I'm
not a member. I don't have a hug.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Well, first of all, thanks colonel, thank you for your service. Well,
you know, it's quite simple. The American Legion Writers focuses.
We ride for veterans and their families. Right. We uphold
the values of the American Legions four pillars, and I
like to say we strengthen the current mission, which is
VCF the Veterans and Children's Foundation, and we live be

(06:43):
to one like the little rock that Todd showed me. Right, Ye,
we always checking in, We connect, and we're working to
prevent veterans suicide and ensure that no one feels for
God and or alone. And I like to say that
the American Legion Rids are champions of hope. Right. And
the reason why I say champions of hope is quite simple. Uh,

(07:04):
hope changes lives. We ride for those who can no longer, ride,
for those suffering in silence, and for anyone who feels forgotten.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
Right.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
So, the way I like to look at it, and
the way I try to instill in our writers is
every mile, handshake, salute and smile carries one message that
you're not alone. That's it right. Uh So, So when
communities see us in our Legion writers ves because they're

(07:34):
not colors. We're not We're not MC's right. We're a
group of writers writing under the umbrella of the American Legion. Uh.
They see our unity, They see the compassion in motion
which which hopefully brings hope to the homeless, veteran strengths,
strengthening the families who are navigating loss, and of course

(07:55):
joy to the children who see Writers waving just for them.
And so that's why I say Champions of Hope isn't
just a name, it's a promise. Where there's pain, we
bring comfort, where there's despair, we bring light. And wherever
there's a veteran or family in need, will be there
for him. So the American Legion Writers is a big

(08:15):
force as the one of the largest programs besides the
Sons of the American Legion. We're out there in the community.
When you see a group of motorcycle enthusiasts, we're in
the American Legion rids vest out there engaging community, engaging
the community. We're spreading the word of what the American

(08:36):
Legion is all about, just like our sisters VSOS. You
mentioned the VFW. The dav Our mission is clear, the
four pillars and supporting those who we serve. So that's
a little bit about the mission of the American Legion Writers.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Well, you mentioned something David there that I think maybe
many people didn't realize, and I knew that, but it
doesn't sink in immediate is that you're doing this in
part for those no longer able to ride, maybe those
who were an enthusiasts who wanted to ride in the
past or did ride in the past, and maybe because
of their service they've they've not able to do anymore,
or just because of asia infirmity and their veterans and

(09:14):
and and they're not able to do it, so you
do it for them. It's I guess in that way,
it's kind of a celebration of a heritage, is something
that was part of their lives and they can still
be part of your trying to represent that and that
and that's true.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Uh, you know, but but let's not say that what
I just said about those who can alonger ride, we
also serve those who who never rode, right, So if
you're a veteran or a family veteran, we're there for you,
regardless of the cause. The American Legion writers just like
the sons of American Legion going out there in American
Legion Auxiliary. You know, I like to think of us

(09:48):
as a family, a legiant family. I don't want us
to be a silo, because we're a silo. It's it
doesn't do us any good. But yeah, we're out there
in the community and and and as long as they
see they know that there's somebody there for.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Well, here's a question. I think the show interest folks.
It's certainly interests me. Of course. You know, the Veterans
of Foreign War is a little more circumspect about its
membership because you have to be a veteran or the
form more, whereas an American Legion can be an audibly discharged
veteran and become an American Legion if I'm correct about that.
How does it work with the writers? Do you have
to be a veteran to be a writer or can
you be a family member, a son of an American

(10:25):
Legion or something like that, or is it strictly for
veterans that are in the writers group.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
That's a great question. So as you said, you know,
for the VFW the Variance of Foreign Wars, you have
to meet a certain criteria to be a member of
that organization great organization, our oldest VSO organization. For the
American Legion, you just have to have served since December seventh,
nineteen forty one to the present. Right, So they answer

(10:53):
your question is simple. Anybody who's a member of the
American Legion family in good standing mean mean someone who
has paid their dues, right, yearly dues a puffle like
myself paid up for life member. I don't know Todd
if you're one or not. Oh yeah yeah. So every
time they see puff on my on my vest, they said,
what is that? Said, that's my last name.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
But that means you don't have to get your dues
in on time. They're already taking there.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
They're already there right as the July. Right. But anyone
who is a member of the Auxiliary, the Suns and
the American Legion could become a member of the American
Legion Writers. And that's the true meaning of family, right.
What better than they have the Legion, the Auxiliary and
the Suns be part of a program, right, a Legion

(11:41):
program that goes out there in in brings awareness to
the communities. Right who the American Legion is. Granted, we're
wearing our writers vest, right, but we're our family and
it's a family affair. So anybody can join. You can

(12:02):
be a support member if you don't have a ride motorcycle.
But that depends on the local chapters. My chapter here
in Aberdeen, chapter out of Bernardi Lutoban Post one eight.
If you're a you want to be a supporter we
could utilize you. You're able to join as a supporter
and your vest clearly clearly says supporter. So like my

(12:26):
wife is an auxiliary member. She she rides on the
back of the bike when she wants to ride, but
she's a supporter of the chapter. So but that's that's
how it works.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
So you guys are an Aberdeens as we've talked about.
Of course, Cal Ripken famously as owner of the Aberdeen IronBirds.
Is there anything the riders ever do over it at
the ballpark? There you ever governor and do anything Ripkins Stadium?

Speaker 5 (12:49):
So it's funny you asked. I've been reached out by
the local Harley Davison dealership someone who used to work there.
His name is JB. And he wants to do something
to bring awareness to what the veterans do. So and
where do they want to do it. They want to
do it at Islands Stadium. We were going to do

(13:12):
something in September, but they came to me in August
before I left for the Legacy room, and I said,
I don't have enough time, right, so let's work on
something to do in the spring or in the fall,
right before baseball season and bring everybody in. Maybe we
can get some motorcycles out on the field. So we're
looking to do something with the Ironbergs. Whether it's my

(13:34):
chapter alone, hopefully it won't be. I want to reach
out to our chairman for Maryland, Dave House, to see
if he can bring a group of riders in and
we can go out there and collect funds. One of
the things that we're riding for in Maryland this year
is our Department Commander's Project One Dream, One Team, Family

(13:58):
Strong is her logo, and we're looking to collect monies
for Americanism, Children in Youth and VA and r Veterans
Affairs and Rehabilitation, so that we can equally split the
money amongst those three areas so that the programs within
there can get the moneies they need. Whether it's a
program like Boys and Girls State, we can send some

(14:19):
students to that Legion Baseball. If a child is in
need or a veterans in need, there's money there. So
that's some of the stuff that we're riding for here
in Maryland. Remember those three hundred and fifty thousand veterans.
So we're looking to do something with the IronBirds, just
like the National Legacy when we were down in North Carolina.

(14:41):
We sent our writers down at Woodpecker Stadium and brought
the game ball in. Our National Commander, National leadership was there,
National Commander, Sons of American Legion, and the President were all.
I think the president was there. We're all there. Another
president wasn't there, but uh, Jim the Corsier and National

(15:03):
Commander and Hussein Avdetti were there and they were all
on the field. Of course, nationally try to throw a ball,
but we that's the kind of stuff we need to do,
right to help bring awareness to two veteran stuff. So
hopefully that'll happen in the spring of And since you're
up in PA, maybe we can get you to come down.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
I'd be happy to come down, but I don't have
a hawk, so I'll just you don't need to have
I'll just be I'll just be waving a flag. It does,
and if it's if it's at Ripkin Stadium, all the
more interesting for me. I love going to ballpark down there, so.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
And of course, DoD You're always welcome to come over
here as well.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Absolutely so, so, David. You know, I'm not feeling with
the legacy run, so I'm going to describe something and
something I think is a really cool idea. I don't
I've never seen it. Maybe it's done, but what is
the possibility or do in fact writers' groups do some
of this, whether it's for legion, I'm not sure the
FW does either. But what about the possibility of all
the riders in the state getting together and doing something
from one end of the state drive to another, raised

(15:59):
funds and awareness for veterans. I mean, like from Maryland,
you could start up there by Aberdeen as you come
in from Delaware and drive all the way down the
Virginia state line, you know, and ninety five and man,
that would get a lot of attention there, and it
irritate a lot of the people and rush like I'm sure,
but I mean it would certainly get a lot of attention.
I don't know if that's a feasible thing. Is it
been done before? I mean, if we did a Pennsylvania

(16:20):
it'd be tough because you got to go seven hours
or eight hours from Western Pa all the way to Philadelphia.
But Maryland's a bit smaller. It's it's feasible, I think.
I mean, is that something that anyone's ever done well?

Speaker 5 (16:30):
Chris let me tell you something. You must be reading
my mind because it's getting scary here. Listen. First of all,
let me say something about the Legacy Run. Right, We're
about to do our twentieth Anniversity of the American Legion
Legacy Run. So, as national chairman, I'm about to have
a meeting with my committee members tomorrow and we're going
to discuss what we can do to bring to celebrate

(16:53):
our twentieth anniversary. Because under the Legacy Scholarship fun we
collect the close if not more than, twenty million dollars
for students to be able to go to school. Now,
under the VCF, we're looking to collect the same amount
of money over the next few years. My goal this
year is to bring over a million dollars for VCF.
And how do we do that? You nailed it in

(17:16):
Maryland over the last ten years. We get two hands up.
Last ten years, my department has collected over a million dollars.
The last three years, we have been number one in
donations for the Legacy Fund. This year we collected over
one hundred and forty five hundred dollars for Veterans and

(17:36):
Children's Foundation. How do this get done? Writers across the
state and their local chapters go out in the communities
and collect funds, right, and those donations come in for
the Maryland Ghost Star Run, which eventually goes to national
under the Legacy Run. So every year in the first

(17:56):
week of June, I think this year is going to
be six eighth and ninth of June, we do a
state run and it's called the Maryland Goal Star Legacy Run.
And they go around the state different areas. They ride
the byways, they ride the highways, and sometimes they go
on the interstate, which we don't like to ride on

(18:18):
big rides like that when you got a hundred bikes, right,
But sometimes and they go around and at the end
of the day they collect a large amount of money.
This year's goal is two hundred plus almost two hundred
fifty thousand I think is their goal, if not more.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
But that's in Maryland. But the beauty of it is
it's starting to grow. Virginia has the Virginia Legacy Run.
They do a great job. Last year they collected over
fifty four thousand dollars. Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina is going
to do their first Legacy Run stuff like that. So
there are states that are starting to do this to

(18:56):
bring awareness to American Legion and how they can collect
funds not just for themselves, but for the greater good,
which is the programs within the American Legion and those
who we serve, those veterans in their families. So maybe
you know odds on here, I'll throw something out his way.
If there's something that you think your writers want to do,

(19:19):
let me know and I'll be happy to come out
there and write them about what they can do to
do this. And like I said, anniversary, So there's some
stuff that we're going to come out and I'm going
to do some PSAs challenging the writers and all the
departments to see what they can do to collect money
so we can get that one million plus for VCS.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
All right, absolutely, Well, you mentioned Virginia and a few
other places. You went all the way to Michigan. We
skipped a few states. I mean, PA's right next door.
It sounds like we need to talk to the Legion
here in PA and get them a legacy. Right do
they not have one?

Speaker 5 (19:52):
So they have some kind of they don't have it
to that as far as I'm aware of, they don't
have something that big. Okay, but I am going to
be on the call tomorrow with one of the directors
or past directors from the state of PA. So I'll
tell you what I'll do, Chris, I will ask them
that question nice, all right, because the challenge is going out,

(20:12):
Remember I said that is going to go out, right,
and not only for that for the Ghost Star the
Legacy runs, but we're also going to do for the
two to fifty challenge. Right, I'm working on the PSA
to inspire our riders across the country out of the
fifth and quite frankly, the fifty five departments to do
something for the two fifty challenge, which ultimately goes to VCS.

(20:36):
So I'll let you know, all right, sounds a good idea.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
So let me ask this question. You know, one of
the challenges with veteran service organizations is it's twofold, or
it's manifested the number of ways. But society has changed
dramatically in this century, but especially since COVID, getting people
volunteer to participate in the Alliance Club, the Kawanas, the
Rotary Club, Scouts, Veteran Services, it's become more and more challenging.

(21:01):
That's one aspect of it, you know, and of course
that was exacerbated in my view by COVID, where a
lot of people just got to have it as staying
home and not donating their time or resources to community organizations,
which is unfortunate, but that that relationship in society was
already fraying, I think, going back twenty twenty five years.
So that's the first aspect of The second aspect of
it is we have kind of not a unique but

(21:22):
certainly a very clear challenge with our veteran service organizations
in the VFW and the League in that our populations
are aging and aging out. And that's in no small
measure because younger generations not picking on younger generations, but
younger generations seem to have more things to distract them,
and they're less focused on our veterans service organizations and
civic responsibilities. And so getting younger veterans, because there's plenty

(21:46):
of younger veterans, we've got three million combat veterans and
more than many more veterans than that since since nine
to eleven, but getting them into these organizations is a
real challenge, particularly in Perry urban and semi rural areas
with small chapters and posts and things like that. So
what's it like for you guys with the writers is
the healthy organization good? Are you also facing challenges with

(22:07):
attracting membership, because I mean that that's been one of
the major issues for us up here in PA.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Yeah, you know, great questions, right, so as a whole
and Todd you know this, you know, being a state commander, sir.
Last year, I believe you were the membership chair, right.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, senior vice but yeah, sort of sort of, not really.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
You know, well Maryland, the senior vice is the membership chair, right.
Is it's hard getting membership right across the board because
the g watt, right, the younger veterans, they a lot
of them are you know, have families, They have different

(22:53):
mindset when it comes to the formality of Legion meetings. Right,
So we have to come up with better innovative ideas
and ways to get the message out to inspire somebody
to join, whether it's the American Legion, the dav the

(23:14):
VFW right, because you know, strength is a powerful thing.
When we have a large amount of numbers, our voices
are heard, especially up on Capitol Hill. Oh yeah, you
know this grassroot efforts. And I'll circle back around to
your question, this grassroot effort that we started to pay

(23:35):
our soldiers during the shutdown, Right, the VSO community got
together to lobby to say pay our service members. So
I know they got paid on the fifteenth. Hopefully they'll
get paid at the end of the month. But going
back to your question is how do we go about
getting younger members? Well, you know, the American Legion though

(24:01):
we are aging as well. We have writers all the
way up in their eighties that they are still ring. Yep,
we have by we have to encourage youth to come in, right,
those young veterans who are just etsd out of the
military or retired out of the military, we've got to
get inspire them to come in. One of the things
that we did here in Maryland is we started the

(24:21):
Patriot Social Hours or once a month we went outside
the four walls of the American Legion. And the premise
behind that was to bring the mission of American Legion
to the community and not get people the one not
ask people, hey, do you want to join the American Legion,
but get them to ask how do I join? And

(24:44):
the way we did it was we brought awareness to
what we did. Program wise, we talked about the writers,
the auxiliary, the suns, the different programs within there. But
until we can reach that younger population, with young kids
that are of school age, you know, they're not going
to want to go to a lounge where and particul

(25:07):
and partake in the spirits, right. They want to they
want to do stuff either outside. Uh, And that's why
the programs are so important, especially under Americanism and children
and youth. We got special Olympics. We've got boys and
girls stay, we got Legion baseball or totorical junior shooting sports,
and the list goes on. Right. Uh. Some departments, like

(25:28):
I think it's North Carolina, they have riders, but they're
also starting a car enthusiasts. Yeah, right, and to bring
people that want to come and join. So that's a
tough question Chris to answer. But the only thing I
can say is within our communities, those local posts, those

(25:48):
chapters within the American Legion, at those at the grassroots,
they know their demographics better than anybody. So whatever they
can do to encourage membership to grow, to want to join,
they just have to be straight up. So when we
did those patriots also hours, we brought stuff to them
and brung awareness. We talked be the one, we talked

(26:10):
about my model champions of Hope. We talked about scholarships,
we talked about the different programs and ask them what
is your passion? Because a lot of times is asking
somebody what their passion is and then talking to that
passion and that'll inspire them enough to want to to

(26:30):
want to join at least for one year. But once
they joined that once one time, it's up to those
people in that post to continue to want them to renew.
So think of it like this. When you were in
the military, you had reenlistment in CEOs, right, their sole
mission was to get that n CEO to re up

(26:51):
for three for four to six more years, right, to
get them over that hump to retire like you and
I did. I don't know, and you too, Todd, Right,
Oh yeah, So how do you do that? Well, sponsorships,
you can sponsor. Somebody sign them a sponsor when they join,
and then that person is responsible for making sure that

(27:12):
those individuals understand the American Legion way, the VFWA, the
DAVVA way, and continue to want to prosper within the
organization because at the end of the day, we're all
unpaid volunteers.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Tell me about it, brother, thirty forty hours a week.
It's unpaid, yeah, trust me.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
But you have passion for what you do, and you
got to you got to bring that passion out and
those individuals that you speak to, you gentlemen on here.
I can see the passion in your faces for what
you do.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Are you seeing the exhaustion as well?

Speaker 5 (27:45):
Yeah, that's in my eyes.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, yeah, no, Actually that really wasn't my question, but
you answer the question as you went about explaining what
was going to be. My next question is that how
do you overcome the challenges? Obviously there are challenges, so
you've kind of asked that question. I'm just curious to
dive a little bit about you. You I said, you
retired to chief Foreign Officer. Obviously that's the army. So
you made the right choice. You didn't get you know,

(28:08):
you didn't get bounced on your head and wind up
in the Navy.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
So that's good here.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
So can you tell us a little bit about your
background the army, what you did, because that really doesn't
tell me. You could have been could have been a pilot,
you could have been a signals guy, could have been
in it. Tell guy, what did you do in the army?

Speaker 5 (28:20):
So I wasn't a fly boy. I was what they
call a walking warrant, right, So when I joined, I
did join in the delay entry program, uh my junior
year in high school. And then after graduation I went
into the army. I went into Fort u leonar Wood, Missouri.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
For Loston, the Woods. That's where I went to basic.
Great a great place in December and January.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
Trust me, well, in the summertime when the ticks are
all over, yeah, like the palace the other But the
rest of my battalion who lived in the brick buildings,
my company had the beautiful quants.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Wanst Hauts, yes, with the.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Concrete floors and grass growing through them that we had
to adore for the eight weeks we were there.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Well, So not to break your heart, David, but I
was in the brick buildings.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
We loved you guys, I'm sure you did all over
there and calls havoc for you guys, and then low
crawl back. I'm glad my I don't have to worry
about my draw starden because I was rank him by now.
So but yeah, Sergeant Carr was my draw stard. And
I remember that guy like he's still right here. But anyway,
So from there I went to Fort Gordon to become

(29:37):
a tech controller, so I was a tactical tech controller
and a fixed station tech controller and I did that.
My first assignment was in Germany where I did communications
for the ninety third Sion Brigade, twenty six Sycam Battalion,
and I was on orders to go to Fort Lewis
to to continue on working in the technic trow, but

(30:01):
my battalion commander had other ideas for me, and I
ended up going to for Gordon to be an instructor.
So from there I came up on orders. I was
to go and be a recruiter, and I said, I'm
not going to do a recruiter right, So the SF
guy came and so I volunteered to go SF. So

(30:23):
I was in Special Operations up until I made Sergeant
first class, and then I had some injuries where I
couldn't jump anymore, I couldn't produce my duties as in
the Special Operations world, so they brought me back to
the Signal Corps in an overstrength MOS which was at
the time thirty one November thirty two Papa had combined
and we had become thirty one thirty two Delta. We

(30:46):
became microwaves system maintainers, and I said, I'm not doing this.
I put in my WARRM packet. I got accepted, and
I became a what's it called tactical network technician, and
that's where I did my duties. I deployed many times
to a few areas of operations to during my enlisted

(31:07):
time as E seven and as as a warrant. I
spent times in Bosnia and Albania a few other places.
And then when my time was to come back, they
sent me back to Fort Gordon to be a joint
instructor and an academic advisor for the Advance course for
warrants and the basic course, and then they were going

(31:28):
to send me overseas on a company for a few years.
And my son was in school. I had already twenty
two to twenty three years in and I said, nah,
I'm done. So I retired and joined the war fighter
as an army contractor. And I've been doing that since
two thousand and three. And that's mean enough.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Wow, Well, you know some very similar paths there. I
also went to Fort Letard what as I mentioned? And
I also went to Fort Gordon where I was a
thirty one MIC and then my austome of My first
duty station was Germany in the eight signal Italian in
the eighth I d.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
Okay, ye, small world? So I joined in eighty two
active duty. When were you there?

Speaker 4 (32:09):
I came in the Army in November of nineteen eighty.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Three in Germany together.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah, we were in Germany together and nearly at Fort
hundred Wood just a few months apart, and then Fort Gordon.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
No, it's a small world, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
In the signal community is where it's at.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
So well, I later was in their defense when I
spent two years in the in the Guard, and then
I spent the rest of my career as an intel
officer in a foreign Area officer for Africa. So but yeah,
signaal Core is a great branch. If I had been
at my signals, what I would have done?

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Well? I mean they're both great, great branches. Don't get
me wrong. God what'd you do?

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Put Signal Corps as well?

Speaker 3 (32:44):
A little little time down at Fort Gordon, I was
a telecommunications operations maintainer and the course MSc back in
the day, and of course I morphed into I was
in Tropo.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Wait wait, wait a second, Todd MS. Back in the day,
you know, you know, I spent thirty six and years
of the arm MBSC came along about a third the
way through my career. That's not back in the day.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
That's new, right, but we don't have it anymore, so
it's back in the day.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, I did twenty years and loved it, you know,
every minute Germany, Iraq, Afghanistan, wherever we were, because it
was about the people you were with, made you feel.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Good, and you were there for the right reasons.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
You know, it was for the person that you're left
to your right and the people back home who know
what right looks like.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
That's why you were there exactly. And you know the
brotherhood and the sisterhood, yeah, that I experienced during my
time in the military. You know, there was a void
after I got out because I got out of O
three and I didn't join the American Legion until late
in two thousand and eight. And then you know, I
joined because a friend of mine who I used to

(33:48):
coach high school, came up to me say, hey, you
ride motorcycles. Want to come join the American Legia Writers,
I said, okay, right, Little did I know I had
to become a legion there first. But I paid my
bile right and I left Georgia to come up here
to work at Evan improving grounds for the program manager
for win Tea at the time. So I found me

(34:08):
a post, my post that had writers. And again I
didn't care anything about the American Legion, you know, I
just wanted to ride. The next thing is I went
to a convention department convention and they were talking about something.
I said, well, I can do that. So I went
to Legion, applied for Legion College National Legion College Graduate

(34:30):
of twenty sixteen. Great, the best class ever. I don't
know if you're a of course, yeah. But I came
back in our department, Agent Russell Myers put me to work, right.
But that changed my focus because I went from a
writer mentality to a legionaire first. I realized that I
had to be a legionaire first to be where I'm

(34:50):
at today. And it's funny because now I'm gone full circle.
I went from becoming a writer to caring about writers
to being the number one Legionnaire for the Department of
Maryland last year as Department Comander to now being the
National Chairman of American Legion Writers. How cool can that be?
It's awesome. I get to be a Legionnaire. I love

(35:14):
my brothers and sisters, but I'm also get to be
in the fellowship of the American Legion Writers and ride
for a cause and and and be with people who
love to ride but also love the veterans. And at
the same time, I get to enjoy being a Legionnaire
and enjoy my brothers and sisters who served as well,

(35:36):
and some of them are still serving absolutely well.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Todd.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Todd and David, both of you know what I'm talking
about here, So I want to get David's take on
this both He talked about camaraderie and fellowship, and that's
that's a lot about what this is all about. But
you know, I didn't have a difficult time transitioning to
be a Savene, even after thirty six years in uniform
thirty four active duty, because I spent a lot of
my time in unusual assignments where part of the time
I was in savaine clothes as part time as an uniform.

(36:01):
I worked with heads of state and corporations and NGOs
and and so all kinds of So for me, I
mean being in the army, being a soldiers who I was,
but but my rank was never who I was that
I'm not tied to. You know how some people are
retired they have a hard time adjusting. So I adjusted
to man in life very easily. Was an easy walk.
But the one thing I'm finding myself more and more
struggling with and frustrated and irritated with, and you know,

(36:23):
looking at getting under roof with you know, something in
my arm you know. But uh, the thing I get
more and more frustrated with is is you know there's
a difference between now that it's gonna be wrong folks.
I mean that we have liars and cheats and criminals
in uniform too, but the number, thankfully is very small.
But I'm having a hard time in civilian world with

(36:43):
people who lie to your face. I see this far
too often, and they don't there's no bond there, you know,
they haven't shared anything, and they don't count on that person,
as Todd said, to left that person the right that
man or woman your life depends on them and getting
the mission done. You know, if you don't get this
this this this shipment of whatever or there or the
fuel or whatever, someone's gonna die if these bullets don't there,

(37:03):
If you don't if you don't hold that spot long enough,
everyone's going to die.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
You know.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
It's it's I'm really struggling with it in some ways,
especially of late, because I just have so many people
that behave duplicitously and why, and it's it's something that
frustrates me to no end. And I hope that not
everybody's seeing that, and I hope it's not over. But
it's not something I'm accustomed to seeing in uniform because
when you see it, you deal with it. It's done and
they're gone. So, I mean, David, is that something you've experienced.

(37:29):
You've been at a uniform for a lot longer than
I have. I mean, and maybe maybe not be overly
sensitive here, that's the problem any thoughts.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
Well, I mean, you know, for some people, transitioning is
a difficult process. Right for me, I had the luxury
of coming out of uniform one day and going back
to this almost a similar place where I was at
together right working as an army contractor, where I was

(37:58):
still able to to to talk to my brothers and
sisters in uniform, as well as the civilians who have
been supporting us. But there's some people that leave the
military life right and don't have the luxury that I've had,
And I say luxury because I got to stay in
that same community, and they go to the private sector, right,

(38:23):
and for them, that transition is a little bit different
because where you and I had our brothers and sisters
who had our back right, some didn't, but the ninety
nine percent or more ninety nine point nine percent had
our back right. They were not self serving, but they
were there for the greater cause like us, they don't

(38:43):
have that right. They're going in the cutthroat environment. And
if they only served one, two, three or four years
or maybe ten years or maybe a little bit more
and they went to the private sector, that's a cut
world environment. There is no spree the core, so to speak,
in that environment, so they may have a tougher time
to transition. For veterans like us who deployed in the

(39:07):
harms way, we have a different way. You know. We
may have those voices that I talk about in our heads,
and that's why initiatives like this right to be the one.
It's so important and why I like to say we're
champions of hope. We have someone that we can count
on to our left and to our right. There's someone

(39:28):
like you two gentlemen on there. Right. For those who
transition to the private sector, that may not always be
the case, right, So I guess at all the bottom line,
I guess it all depends on the individual, right, and
how they handle themselves and their mental acuity when it

(39:48):
comes to being able to handle stressful situations like that. So,
I mean, I don't know any better way to answer
that than that.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
No, it's a good response to it. I'm just curious.
I like to get other veterans take on this because
I mean, like I said, I've I adjusted very well
to it, but I'm I get frustrated when I talk
to someone and they lie to my face and I
and I see that a lot, right, It's I mean,
in you know, they're lying, and it's like, you know,
just come on, And I mean they're not even very
bright when they lie.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
And that's one thing you as No. Six, as a
sertin first class me is a chief, right. We probably
asked soldiers questions right, and we knew the answer, right.
We wanted to see how they brought it back exactly.
But but you know they wouldn't lie to us in
a sense, right. Uh. But in the in the private sector,

(40:35):
you know they can. They can look at you one way,
right and being of this instead of this, because there's
no heart in what they're what they're doing.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Yeah, there's there's and in many cases there's.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
No cause exactly.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
For us, we had to flag the Constitution and our men,
men and women are left and right. Your dog there,
this is, this is. I wasn't sure if you picked
a pillow up or a dog. It looked all fluffy.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
Yeah, all right, So she loves to be and say
hi to everybody. So she just there you.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Go, So, Todd, I hope I haven't taken up too
much of time. Give you a chance to get some
questions in there. I'll turn it every year.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
No, absolutely, John, you have any questions, because I'll bring
it back full circle and wrap it up here in
a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Well, I was kind of curious, maybe I missed it earlier.
I was listening.

Speaker 7 (41:25):
But you raised money, Yeah, you raised money for these
How do you how do you go about raising money.
I mean, is this kind of like sponsored miles or
just holding events or how do you accomplish that?

Speaker 5 (41:43):
So every chapter, every department does it different, right, I
can only speak to how my department and our chapters
do it. They'll go out there, they'll hold fundraisers, they'll
hold poker runs, they'll hold they'll go up to establishments
and say, hey, we would like to get the nations.
You know, we're a C nineteen, we're going to be
a C three in the future. But there's different ways.

(42:05):
I don't call them sponsors. I like to call them
legacy supporters. Yeah, right, Uh So last year I had
our first inaugural gallop for the Department of Maryland was
very successful and I had we got over I think
close to fifty sponsors, right, or legacy supporters at different levels.

(42:29):
So a chapter can go out and collect money for
whatever costs. Right, If they want to collect money for
the legacy fund, then they'll go out there and they'll
have a poker run, they'll have raffles, they'll they'll have cookouts,
and they'll collect money for those particular causes. And then

(42:51):
if there's a department level like here where we have
the chapters. We have one post that takes the initiative
and our chairman for that is out of a post
twenty two in Towson as a past national commander for
the Sons of American Legion, and his passion was to
get collect those funds. So he challenges other chapters and

(43:14):
he gives out plaques. So there's a different ways of
doing it. You know. I talked earlier about the Patriot
Social Hour. That Patriot Social Hour, I would work or
myself and the committee would work with the restaurants, and
we would get up to twenty percent of everybody's bill
that came back to the Department of Maryland for Veterans

(43:35):
Affairs and Rehabilitation. So in some cases we may only
have one hundred dollars and the other cases we got
five hundred dollars, but we got money that went to
that project. And at the end of the day, not
only did we get money, but we helped out veterans
with BSO claims because we brought our Department BSO we
got to talk to people and we would probably sign
up anywhere from five to ten people and help I

(43:57):
think up to three or four veterans on their claims.
So there's a lot of ways that you can do
with John. You have to be creative and think outside
the box, and most of all, think outside the four
walls of your American Legion posts and figure out a
way that's conducive for the demographics in your in your
area to collect moneys.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
So thank gotcha.

Speaker 7 (44:19):
So if anybody happens to be listening on do you
happen to have a donation? I mean you do writing
to create awareness, So do you have a donation?

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Website?

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Yeah, So if they want to donate on the national level,
they can go to www Dot Legion dot org slash
donate and on that website there's a list of different
donations that they can They can go to Boys, State,
Girls State Legion, Baseball, my favorite, the Children's Veterans and

(44:47):
Children's Foundation. So there's a whole list of places where
they can donate, and the donations that come to the
American Legion, one hundred percent of that donation goes to
that particular cause there's no overhead when you donate for
it one hundred dollars. One hundred dollars goes to that
project that you're donating to. So that's the beauty of it.
So just go to Legion dot org slash donate. If

(45:11):
you want to donate specifically the VCF, you can you
can go to the VCF website and you can donate there.
So there's there's you can donate to the Temporary Financial
Assistance TFA. Like I said, any of the programs by
going to that website.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Awesome.

Speaker 7 (45:29):
So you get involved in the political affairs at all
that may affect veterans when there's bills coming up or
things like that.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Well, as you know, the American Legion is nonpartisan, right,
so we work both sides of the out So you know,
I've worked with the govern under when I was State commander,
I worked with the Governor's office to promote veterans interests.
So anything that was veteran interest wise, whether it was well,

(45:59):
we have house built I think it's two sixty eight,
which was the Predatory Act. We lobbied and worked with
them to ensure that they passed that law to keep
predators away from our veterans who are trying to file
VA claims. Because in the VA, a service member goes
to a predator and they charge them a percentage of

(46:21):
that VA claim, So that was one of the things.
So there's I worked with and our department worked with
the Veterans Affairs Office. It's called now they changed the
name the Maryland Veterans and Family Members. I remember the
name in title, but basically it's with the Veterans Secretary

(46:45):
for Maryland and we worked to promote veteran causes. So
that's the only time I get involved in politics.

Speaker 7 (46:51):
Yeah, yeah, it's not politics, just about something policy, right,
got people's interests, that's important thing to do.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
I should mention our voter voice, voter voice out in
that forward slash American Legion. People can go there and
have their voices heard that way as well.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
And I don't know, I've been pushing that for the
past couple of years.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Yeah, and then there's also the grassroots, right, you go
to org slash grass Roots and you can go in
and you can sign up for it, and you don't
have The beauty of it is you don't have to
be a member of the American Legion, that's right, right,
just a member of the publicy supporter. Anybody can do that.
So that's why whenever stuff like that gets out, I
try to get it out on social media and pass
the word around. Hey, go here and write something because

(47:30):
it goes based on your zip code to whoever your
congressman and woman is, your representative is right, same thing
in Maryland. We can do the same thing here in
Maryland for local policies that affect our veterans and their families.
So grassroots is where it's at to get the word
out for our veterans.

Speaker 7 (47:45):
So if we see you on the highway or something
and you're doing a right how many writers can we
expect to see out there?

Speaker 2 (47:51):
What's your normal group? Thirty people, twenty people or more?

Speaker 5 (47:56):
So at the national level, I hope to have over
two hundred fifty riders come August we'll leave for Kentucky.
Right locally here in Maryland we have approximately one hundred riders.
Anywhere from sixty to one hundred riders. I had a
charity run for my project last year. We had I
think sixty eight bikes and seventy five or eighty bikers

(48:21):
all together cleaning passengers. I know that I think Randy
Gunn out of Virginia had over one hundred and fifty
rider excuse me, last year for the Legacy run. So
it just depends on what type of run it is.
We have some riders out of La Plata American Legion

(48:41):
post Chapter eighty two. They just did a little ride
and they had I think fifteen to twenty riders go
out there across the state. They went on a plaque run.
But they brought awareness because they were wearing their vests. Right,
So they wear their vests and they're acting on behalf
of the American Legion. You know, they're doing the work
of the Legion, promoting our causes, and so it can

(49:04):
be anywhere from a few riders two hundreds.

Speaker 7 (49:07):
Man, you got the fun job, man, when it comes
to volunteer, and that's kind of volunteering you want to do, right.
You get to ride the motorcycle for the wind and
enjoy yourselves. But yeah, that's all the questions I got there,
Todd Man, to go ahead and take.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
It all right, perfect, I'd be remiss.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Jared Our, Jared Mountain, our department chair, he'd be beat
me up if I don't mention this. We're going to hold
the be the one Mid South Round up May fifteenth
and seventeenth through seventeenth at the Putnam County Convention Center.
It's going to be a big be the one fundraiser
probably a lot of riders from different apartments. So I
want to mention that and put that, put it out there,
and of course obviously invite you down as the national

(49:41):
chair for that. I'll get you more information as we
get closer. But we're here in the home stretch at
this first hour. Where are some places people can go
find more information about the American Legion and how can
people get involved?

Speaker 5 (49:53):
All right? So first of all, send me an invite
and I will will all right, I'll bring my bike
down there. All right, all of those facilities, especially if
it's about b to one.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
It is, yes, sir.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
So more individuals want to know about the American Legion writers,
It's simple. They go to Legion dot org slash writers
and on that page on the national website there's a
whole bunch of information about how to become a writer.
And then you can find a local chapter, just like
you do if you want to be a member of
the American Legion, the Sons or the Auxiliary, you can

(50:26):
find a local chapter and you can join up the
American Legion or the Auxiliary of the Suns by going there,
finding the chapter that's near your house. And become. And
the great thing about it is it has all the
information there, their historical data from all the rides that
we've had, maybe not all the rise, but it goes
back a few years. There's articles on there. There's even

(50:49):
an article that where they just interviewed me about this
chairmanship on there. So that's a great avenue for information
about the American Legion Writers. But there's also Legion dot
Org is a great place to find out why they
should join the American Legion family.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Absolutely, and some of those writers directors that maybe don't
get it interact with you or maybe a National officer
on a regular basis. What are some words of encouragement
from National could could you give them to let them
know that they're doing the right thing and on the
right track.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
It's funny you say that, I'm about to launch the
Champions of Hope American Legion Writers podcasts.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
All right, So I love it.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
And part of that is to bring awareness to what
the writer community is doing. They get their stories right
because National looks at us as as the largest program
that brings the largest amount of donation, right, So in
order to inspire our writers to let them know how
well they're doing because our writers. It's like I said,

(51:53):
you know, they write for our veterans, they ride for
the families, right, and they continue to hold the four
pillars and strengthening our mission. So that podcast is going
to be dedicated to them as champions of Hope. I
am going to hopefully get our national leadership, National Commander

(52:13):
Dan Wiley, right, President sl Commander, as well as some
of the staff members and of course the most important
people the writers from across the various departments and be
guests on there.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
So that's how we're going to bring awareness to what
they're doing. And by doing that, I hope we all
will help bring in new members who want to join
the American Legion family and give them the writers an
understanding of why writing for the Veterans and Children's Foundation
is so important because of where the money goes and
support those individual absolutely.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Absolutely, We'll go round robin real quick here, Colonel. Any
final thought you may have here in that past the
last minute.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Or so, Yeah, just like, thank David for his service
Star Nation and also what he's doing for the Riders
and the Legion. Even though I'm not a memory Legion,
I do appreciate what you do with that veteran service organization.
And also yeah, for what you're doing there at Aberney
Improving Ground. I'm sure that you're making positive it's just
difference in the trajectory of our history. So I thank
you very much and I offer you a salute here

(53:16):
here Johnny final thought or question?

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Uh no, I gotta thinking a little Chris there, and
keep up the good work.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
David.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
We appreciate you coming on the show and sharing your
experiences with us and we love hearing it. You know
that you're doing good work like that.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Thank you, brother, absolutely, yeah, and David will come to
you to for final thought. And this way, we're not
gonna have the music play you off at the end.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
We'll get you off with respectfully. Yeah. They only do
that to people don't like.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
I got you well. I like to say thank you
for having me right. You know, we had a great
conversation that convention. Yes, Sarah, when it comes to American Legion,
I love talking to as much as I can about
the American Legion. So now I have a new challenge
on top of being national chairman, and that's to get
there to become a member of the largest Veterans Organization,

(54:04):
get him on a bike and get him to come
join us the Legacy run. So that that's one of
the tasks that I have to do on my things
to do list, and Todd, I need your help as
well as you John. Uh, I'll come and see you
in PA and I'll take you to the local post. Brother.
When you're ready, we'll go.

Speaker 7 (54:24):
Not I think I think christ Travel Chris is gonna
show up in his Dodge knee on with the flake
bigger than the car is and he's gonna dodge.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
Listen, I'll put you on the back of a trick.
I don't care you joined. I'll get you out there,
brother with me, all right.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
I will wait till I finally cave in and let
them replace my hip before you did that.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
You're on the truck. You don't have to do anything
but sit back and just wait. That's trip.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
I'm down for the Aberdeen event, that's for sure.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
All right. Listen. I am truly humble for being here.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
You know, this is just the start of this journey
in my chapter, and I look to promote the organization
any way I can. Todd, thank you for what you're
doing in in the beautiful state of Tennessee. I look
forward to come in and hang out. Invite me anytime.
I'll be I'd love to come talk to your your
d C or anyone over there about what we as
writers do at the nationalization and how your department can

(55:25):
do the same thing for your state and the veterans
living there. To the colonel, thank you for what you did. Brother.
I'm sorry that I missed you at Levenworth, but uh,
I'm let Lennard would right. Yeah, yeah, I'm sitting there
in Kansas, but a visit for work. Uh. I'm glad
you had the uh the accommody, the uh the the

(55:48):
good accommodations versus the Quanta Hunts. But that's why you're
a colonel. I'm a chief and John. Thank you, brother.
I appreciate all you guys do.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
So National Chairman for the American Legion Writers. We'll have
him on sometime and if you just stick around, be
back after these matches, folks.

Speaker 6 (56:25):
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Speaker 3 (56:37):
All right, folks, we're back after that break. Good good
interviewer with David already of the chairman of the American
Legion Writers, the national organization.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Good interview.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Hopefully we'll have him back soon. Round Robin here, what
do you guys think about the construction or destruction that's
going on at the East wing of the White House
for the ballroom and the hay made about it from.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
On the left. What are your thoughts on that? Well,
President Trump up the estimated costs today from turn fifty
million to three hundred million. That got my attention. So
now it's going to cost three hundred million. I'm like
three hundred million to build a ballroom? Good lord? What's
this thing? Made out of gold and platinum? But it
reminds me of Nancy Reagan back in the nineteen eighties
buying china for the White House and the left freaking

(57:21):
out in the Washington Post and accusing her of who
is she to spend money? Well, it's not her money
and it's not our money. It was donated money. All
the money was donated to purchase the silverware and the china.
And you know, it's a legacy that stays there to
this day. So I get shut their mouths and I
said the same thing about this this is all coming
from Trump's pocket and private donations, and what's what's their problem?

(57:41):
White House has been renovated multiple times above ground, below right,
and you know, people need to get over themselves. There
is nothing wrong with this. The White House needs a
ballroom to host heads of state and large events, and
it really doesn't have what it needs. So I have
no problem with it whatsoever. But I'm laughing about how
they put this up and like Trump is a dictator,

(58:03):
he's ripping down the White House. It's costing American taxpayers
two hundred and fifty. No, no, it doesn't cost taxpayers
a penny. Apparently you're not well informed. So I just
think it's comical. The left is flailing. They just keep
making things up all the time. Look, I just read
meritimilitary dot com and and they have veterans out protesting
the King's rally. But I made a mean for that.
You know, I've got a picture of Franklin Delan and Roosevelt.

(58:24):
He's elected to elected the four presidential terms, you know, yeah,
so they seem to forget that. And then I showed
the picture of the current King and Queen. You know,
Chuckie Schumer, who's never had a job in his life.
He's been in government for five decades, and then in
Nancy Pelosi, he's been in Congress and government for thirty
eight years. That's eighty eight years between them. Donald Trump
hasn't en been in office for five years and they're

(58:44):
calling him the king. It's just lucros. But as far
as the is the East Wing, they can you know,
they can take that and shove it because they know
what they're talking about. Right, go ahead, do.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
It, you know it is Chris is right.

Speaker 7 (58:54):
It is impressive that Donald Trump is raising the money
and we're getting businessmen and so to bring up the
funds and stuff to get this job done. It's an
impressive feet and I think it's a time, it's time
overdue to see something like this because it's a better
way to, like Chris said, entertained dignitaries.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
And stuff, ambassadors for large parties.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
It could be.

Speaker 7 (59:15):
Beneficial for some long run. Any businessmen will tell you, hey,
we want to be able to entertain our guests. This
is how business gets done. You know, you don't bring
them there to bor them. You bring them there to
make them feel good about being there. We're making a
pleasant experience for them to visit. I do question if
they're going to use it for a dining hall or
any hand any time to sit six hundred people if
the kitchen can handle that kind of out outing. But

(59:37):
it probably can because they've had dinners in the Rose
Garden stuff. I stand it out beyond just a dining area.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (59:43):
The only the only thing it may impact as far
as the taxpayer goes is upkeep over time, but that's
spread out over time. I don't think we're going to
really feel it on the upkeep.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
So yeah, Chris is right.

Speaker 7 (59:53):
The left is just winding about much ado of nothing,
and I kind of I'm in favor for it. We've
seen presidents after presidents make difference changes within the White House,
the back deck there that was put on there with
Truman stuff, and and uh, I think we've had stuff
done the cellar bowling alleys at.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Times and other you know things and at times. So yeah,
I don't know. I think it's uh, I think it's
probably time overdue.

Speaker 7 (01:00:19):
I thought about first, I was reacting, reacted, react, reacting
to it like like most people, and I thought about going,
oh wait a minute. What I looked up and saw
is being paid for by private sector. I mean, how
generous of them and for the benefit of the nation.
So wow, when I saw that, I'm like this, Hey,
you know what, you can't beat that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Yeah, the East East East wing is cramped anyway, and
it's the first Lady's office, White House, Military Office has
has some offices there, and I think the cligifers and
a few other smaller little offices social secretary, et cetera.
Uh so very small. There's no no, no real room
to hold any events there because it's just offices in
the East wing and that's generally where you would go
to to go to a tour or to an event

(01:00:59):
in the White House. Is are there, and of course
check your coat at the theater as you walk in,
which is right there at the colonides anyway, not even
in the White House proper.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
So it makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
It's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
I mean two unred fifty million. It only goes back
to the nineteen forties anyway. It's not like George Washington
helped build the out the original walls or something.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:01:18):
Well, these wings historical as it is, but just the same.
It's you know, as a Left likes to say, it's
time for progress, It's time for growth.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
I think everything inside their paneling and anything historical has
been taken out and dis mantled and put somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
The preserving historical and stuff like that, right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Yeah, it's not like they're tearing it down with with
with paintings on the wall and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:01:41):
Yeah, they didn't just take a whole wrecking ball and
swing it knock it down, right, Yeah, whatever happens, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Yeah, damn the consequences right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Well, anyway, where are we?

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Where are we right now with the with the the
Shumor's shut down? Uh, you know, it has the Democrats
going to suffer in any of the consequences or are
just going to be blamed on the Republicans, you know,
as every shutdown generally gets blamed on.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Eventually, as we went to air, the Senate Democrats and
voted it down again fifty four to forty four. It
was twelve So that's twelve twelve times. Now, that was
like a minute before he went on air. Yeah, so
it's pretty Soonilar set the record. During the Joe Biden regime,
the Democrats passed thirteen flat no increase spending authorizations thirteen

(01:02:29):
times in those four years continued resolutions. Now they've denied
the same thing twelve times. And oh, by the way,
why are they doing this because of the Unaffordable Care Act.
The Unaffordable Care Act, as I said when this scam
was perpetrated on the American people years ago, is exactly
that a scam. It destroyed and disrupted the insurance market
for medical care, and people can't afford it. And now

(01:02:53):
that the premiums, the chickens are coming home the roost
because whose son set this clause? Not a Republican Congress,
not Apublican president, but a Democratic Congress and a Democratic
president under Obama. Remember Nancy Pelosi, just sign the bill,
we'll read it afterwards. Well, you morons that signed the
bill gave this problem to us now, and they're blaming
it on Trump. It's comical how stupid people are. And

(01:03:15):
you know, here's the thing. Even if the Republicans cave
and give one point four trillion dollars of money that
we don't have, burying this country further in debt to
give these pet projects to illegal aliens, medical care and
all these other things in subjects of healthcare, that the
Democrats are demanding unrealistically, even if they do that, most
people will still see their premiums go up, because this
is the end of the ACA as it was designed.

(01:03:38):
So there's an article here in NBC of all places,
talking about a couple whose premiums are four and fifty
dollars because of the subsidies from you and me the taxpayer.
So they get free healthcare per month, four to fifty
per month even if the bill, if the subsidy remains,
their bill increases by five hundred dollars a month, doubling

(01:04:00):
even without that. So so, even so, even the Democrats
got their way, these people are still gonna have unaffordable
health insurance because the way that the insurance market was
perverted by the demon rats. And now the chickens wore
come home to roost. And I said that when this
garbage was passed. In fact, I had an emergency gall
bladder surgery right after this bill was passed. When I
came back from Africa on a flight, and I was
joking with my anatologists, and I said, listen, the thing

(01:04:22):
they should have fixed was tort reform. They should have
they should have done the way with this nonsense of
suing somebody from millions of dollars when you're injured and
give a reasonable amount. And since they didn't fix tort reform,
if you screw up my anesthesia, my airs will sue
you for every penny you've got and they'll get it.
And to which, to which the antestesiology says, I'm not
understanding what he's talking about. Did you understand what you're

(01:04:46):
talking about? Made me think, you know? It made me
made me think of the movie there with with Chris Duckers, like,
did you understand what Jackie Chaid? Do you understand what's
coming down? My Don't nobody understand why it's coming at you?
Absolutely so.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Now the mayoral race in New York, that's another one
that's gonna be tight here. And I'm hoping that this
nag on, this psychotic Zohan Mamdani doesn't walk away from it.
But apparently he's eating at some very swanky restaurants in
New York trying to pretend like he's a he's a
socialist or a working class guy. But he's eating at

(01:05:24):
one of the most upscaled, most expensive sushi restaurants in
the country, trying to pretend like he's just an everyday
working class guy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
Come on, now, he's also hanging out with a radical
Islamic fanatic, a mom who spoke on behalf of the
Blind Shake. The man affiliate with terror groups that bombed
the World Trade Center in nineteen ninety four. And so
this clown is it's not tight. This guy's gonna be
the next mayor of New York. New York is gone
from a city that was united after radical Islamic fanatics

(01:05:53):
destroyed the World Trade Centers, murdered over three thousand people
or close to three thousand people, and altered the trajectory
of history for their fanaticism. New York has gone from
a city under attacked by Muslims to a city invaded
by Muslims. And now a radical Muslim fanaticist is going
to take over a Jew hater. And this is the
same city that without a Jew, without a Muslim, without
a they had a clown as mayor. During lockdown, they

(01:06:15):
shut down all the churches, they shut down all the synagogues.
And what did they keep open during that? They kept
the mosque open. So New York City has lost to
us like London has lost. You know, the West is
being conquered from within, and that is on an Islamophobic comment.
So I don't make hear the nonsense. For people want
to say that I've lived the majority of Muslim countries
and I obeyed the norms and cultural behaviors there and

(01:06:37):
even fasted during Ramadan in solidarity with my classmates at
Tunian Staff College. So I don't want to hear this nonsense.
I don't have an issue with Islam. I have an
issue with Islamic fanaticis, and I have an issue with
people who want to turn Christian countries into Muslim centers.
You have conquered North Africa, it's yours. Keep it in
the Middle East.

Speaker 7 (01:06:57):
Just to let you know, I've made some pretty bold
statements like that in the past on this showing them.
Yet to receive the hate, No.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
Darn it, No, no, I'm sure it'll come. Someone will
dig it up when I when I'm appointed ambassadors the
trend at or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Yes, today Chris was a racist or islamoph.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
Oh, I'm not. I'm not his NFO. That's I love
that when they come at me because I'm not. No
I know, but I love when it comes because I
don't have problem with people come to America legally.

Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
Right, exactly, Like I say to somebody, Conservatives don't mind
helping out in social programs when social programs are safe
for people that mentally are incapable of taking care of themselves.
We don't want to throw them into the street, you know,
we don't want to just to sit there and suffer.
We want to take care of people that can't take
care of themselves. We just don't want the lady with
the six kids and the drug dealer to support all

(01:07:44):
this crap.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
You know, it's like it's a.

Speaker 7 (01:07:47):
Drug dealer, that's the issue. You know, we're not drug
dealers because she's shacking up with the lady with six kids.
This is getting to be nonsense, right, and maybe only
one of them is his kids, right you know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
If any I mean it's convenience for him. He's a
drug dealer.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. It's ironic to see it's always it's
always these rich white people and these these rich privileged
people from other groups who pushed this socialist nonsense. I mean,
you know, Karl Marx was not exactly a starving as student.
Now he pushed this garbage. Trotsky wasn't a starving student
either was Lenin. You know, now, Stalin was just a
brutal thug and he used the Communist Party to rise

(01:08:21):
the power. He wasn't a real Communist, but he didn't
believe in anyway. He just believed in what he believed in.
But you know, it's it's Zora, mam. Donnie is a privileged,
little whiny baby who's had everything handed to him, elite schools,
elite life, lived in Uganda, lived in South Africa, lived
in the United States, and his controversial radical lunatic father.
These people are really dangerous. You know, the fact that

(01:08:41):
we let them in our country, we live with the
consequences of it. And like London, now our biggest city
is going to fall to a fanatic and that's really sad.
What's really sad about this is that of the three
people in their ace, the only person's even remarked remotely
saying is Curtis Slieva, the founder of the Guardian Angels,
who's actually done something positive in you because our mom
on he simply bled the city dry, getting rich and

(01:09:02):
lying about things, even at the age of thirty four.
And you know, Cuomo, of course, has been disastrous for
New York City. And the state right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Yeah, and it's sad that you know, here we are
talking about people to at least two on the left,
Mamdani and Cuomo, and Cuomo is the best alternative that
you have to him on the left.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
Well, I find it comical looking at the polls that
they're telling Sleely to withdraw. So he adds his fourteen
percent to Cuomo's twenty eight percent, assuming every single one
of these voters goes there, which won't happen, that's just
forty two percent. He's still losing. He's getting thumped by
ten or twelve percent. I mean, what's you know, what's
what's the benefit of that? What we can know for
is that all these people that run their mouths don't

(01:09:43):
actually go to polls and real people go out and vote.
But New York has lost. It's been flooded with the illegal,
it's been flooded with people who don't share the values
of New Yorkers. Whether the Christians muzzlem is juice and
they're radical, and this is the outcome of it. Next,
I mean, look, we already have idiots in charge of Chicago.
Brandon Johnson, let's go, Brandon. We have an idiot going
to be in charge of New York very soon. I mean,

(01:10:03):
we've gone from a city that was bankrupt and was
a disaster in nineteen seventies to one rescued by Rudy
Giuliani and turned into the gleaming jewel that it once was.
And now under Bloomberg gets regressed and then under you know,
you know, Wilhelm whatever his name is, de Blasio to blowheart, Yeah,
the real name is Wilhelm de Blasio really took this
city in the wrong direction, and then Eric Adams the

(01:10:25):
wrong direction, and now we're going to get this lunatic.
We are seeing the invasion and occupation of American cities
by alien cultures and alien thoughts, and people are on
our scream diversity, diversity. This is this is a this
is an attitude that doesn't care about diversity. It wants
elimination of things that aren't like it. And that's who
he is. But I think the guy's a fraud, to
be honest. I think he's really just a grifter who

(01:10:46):
wants to make a bunch of money and be famous,
and that's what it's all about for Zora Mandani. And
whenever I hear his name, I think of the Bond movie,
where was it. Zorg is the bad guy? So I
think it's Zoron.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
He's a Bond villain, right, Yeah, I amani mister Bond.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
You know something like that strog strogging hairless cat. It's
one billion dollars doctor Evil. Yeah, we were going to
plunge this this city into more chaos, you know, as
if New York City could be putting more games. Oh
oh absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
I mean you got good police that are fleeing the
city left and right. Workers that are that are fleeing.
You know, good people that have had generations, you know
of family roots there that are leaving to go elsewhere,
some of them coming down mid South, some of them
going all the way to South. Some of them are
even moving out west now you know, to some of
those sun of your states out there, I mean, taking

(01:11:38):
their money and generational routes and just leaving.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
And it's saying, well, that's been going out in New
York for fifteen or twenty years and had a major impact.
By the way, did you see what this idiot wants
to do? Washington Times reported that he wants to put
a tax on white people to pay for blacks and Hispanics.
So he wants to raise tax rates on people in
New York City based on the skin color. But isn't

(01:12:01):
he technically white? Also sort of right tactic. Technically under
US law, Arabs are white.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
But but I love how the area is incriminating. Is
that what you're getting at, Chris, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
When talking about is we have apartheid rule in New
York City. That's what's coming. They want to tax white
people to higher rate, then they tax anybody else. I mean,
what kind of nonsense is this? And there's probably wittyot
white people with blue hair and pink hair runner and going,
oh this is right, the pinktriarchy. Tup's evil? Where did
Trump coming to?

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
Who? Mind?

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
You are just gonna simply identify as something else so
they don't have to be.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
Taxed at higher rate. I think they should identify as
ding back door knobs, because that's what they are. Why
are you taxing a ding back doorknob over here? I
need a little that fog gord lego And I say,
I say ball, I'll say ball, come here, little fog
gor legar in there. But no, it's look, it's it's insane.
I mean, I'm not making this up that was released

(01:12:56):
by The Washing Times last night. His tax structure he
wants to impose on the Yorkers means that white folks
will be paying more intentionally than anybody else. What kind
of nonsense. Battlefairlready have progressive taxes in this country, which
is immoral. People some people paying more in taxes percentage
income than other people do. In fact, some pain a lot.
The top one percent pay almost thirty seven percent of
all the taxes in this country. The top ten percent

(01:13:17):
pay ninety percent. You know, almost nobody pays anything below
the fifty percent line. You know, it's it's it's it's insane.
Now we go from that to white people are the
ones that have to pay the tax. So does that
mean if Oprah lives in York shows that to pay
the Tai taxes, she's a billionaire. Yeah, yeah, the millionaires
of the billionaires. And speaking of Bernie Sanders, he's supporting
the guy in Maine. Maine Democrats Center Hopeful back by

(01:13:39):
Bernie Sanders apologize for Nazi style tattoo voles to stay
in the race. Graham Platinor says he got the tattoo
covered up that he received in two thousand and seven,
whenever he was on serving in the ring or whenever
he was on leave. I don't see the tattoo anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
But yeah, so a Nazi style tattoo would get you
destroyed if you were on the right. But if you're
in Democrat party, you can still be the nominee for
the US Senate. Todd, Todd, let me make splainless deal.
Let me make explain this to you. You understand, I'm
I'm Jewish. I'm Jewish, and you know, big Jewish.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
From New Hampshire, or I'm Vermont, Vermont, from Vermont, from Vermont,
big Jewish from Vermont. You know, it's quite okay because
we support Nazis up here. We loved him. You know,
he's not really a Nazi because he's a Democrat. He
could be a Nazi all day long as all this.
He is a Democrat and he votes with us. And
you know, because I no longer have two pears underwear,

(01:14:31):
now I got four.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
He's got more under my yeah, right, stowing off as
somebody probably all right, yeah, but anyways, how they can
look the other way for somebody like that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
But if it was somebody on the right, no, they
were just completely destroyed. Look look at Santas, He's a
he's a thoroughly disreputable guy. And but they just looked
at what I mean, this isn't even the worst. Look
at the Virginia race for secretary, the treasurer secretary State.
The race down there in Virginia where this guy is
like dreaming of fantasize about murdering the children out people,
white wing politicians. I mean, this is, this is sick.

(01:15:03):
This is And then then that race is actually turneing
in favor of the governor because the candidate for governor, Spinanburger,
won't distance herself. She says, a guy can run and
that supposed to says, well, he's the better candidate. The
better candidate fantasized about murdering people. I think the guy's
mentally endstable. He needs to be locked up in a
house and put in a straight jacket, right, absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:15:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
And when some steers running for running for governor there
and she's a lieutenant governor right now, Marine Corps veteran.
H you know, people in Virginia don't come out and
vote for her. There's definitely something wrong in Virginia anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
Yeah, I know she's brilliant. It's just like the lieutenant
governor there in North Carolina's pretty brillant too. But Win
some seris is amazing. And the fact, if you know, so,
where are the Democrats she's a black woman? Were they
racist because they're not voting for I mean, if it
was a Democrat and we weren't vote for the Democrat,
we'd call racist. They're not voting for win some series's
she's she's a female, she's black. I mean that should

(01:15:54):
be like one hundred percent vote. I mean, what are
you all racist? Well, Virginia's you racist? Come on, ad minute,
you're race Come on yous?

Speaker 5 (01:16:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Right, I mean they only give you one or two alternatives, right, John?
What are your thoughts there?

Speaker 7 (01:16:08):
My thoughts are as talking to somebody earlier today. And
she said that the last mayor of race here in Nashville,
New Hampshire only was won by six hundred votes. Unfortunately,
Republicans only came to vote at one Republican ver nine
registered voters. You know, we could beat these guys if
we get out and vote. We'd beat these guys if

(01:16:28):
we'd stand up and start taking some action and stop
being lazy, complacent or feeling defeated. I don't know if
people are being taught learned helplessness of what's going on here.
But if you're getting sick and tired of these issues,
you got to get out there and be.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Part of the solution.

Speaker 7 (01:16:41):
You got to get out there, vote, You got to
get involved. You got to get like Todd here getting
involved in his local board of education. It's time to
get involved. It's time to start taking back your communities.
It's time to start taking back your your local politics.
Get involved in your local politics and network and work
together to do it. You know, it's enough is enough
with this nonsense, because.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
This stuff is getting real. Chris is it wrong when
he's talking about New York City. He's not joking.

Speaker 7 (01:17:07):
These guys are really seriously trying to corrupt this country.
These guys are and some of these guys, like you said,
they have jihadists.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
You call them gis. I guess whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:17:15):
These extremist Muslims. It's not We're not sitting here saying
all Muslims are bad. We're not trying to Muslims for
being Muslims. But there are Islamists that are trying to
promote Islamism within the United States to take over the
United States, and they do have plans and agendas to
infiltrate our politics. They do have plans and agendas to
infiltrate our communities, and they do wish to have your
kids all covered up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
With like key jobs and all this other nonsense. I'm
praying five times a day.

Speaker 7 (01:17:40):
They're ringing the bell five times a day, and dearborn
Michigan right now, they go right to do it. I'm
not denying a predominantly Muslim community, and they pass code
to ring the bell five times a day to call
people to prayer. But if this is not what you
want in your community, you need to stand up and
do something now. And talking on social media doesn't do it. Guys,

(01:18:00):
I'm asking these guys on social media thinking they're in
the trenches and really doing the good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
You can take all the politicians you want on social media.
They're not making you any mind or attention. Now, you
got to be a man in the arena. That's the
bottom line.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
Absolutely, liking some nonsense on social media, maybe sharing you
think you're being brave.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
That's not being brave.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
I'm sorry, No, it's going to be a nonsensical right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
It may help spread some you know whatever. Mostly it's
in an echo chamber. Anybody who follows you on social
media generally are people who agree with you for the
most part, and people who interact with anything you put
out there. Politically, it's just an echo chamber for the
most part.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
Well, there's this demand that we have respect for diversity
and other faiths, but people don't have respect for our faith.
I mean, look in London, where Islamist go or Muslims
go and take their shoes off and sit on the
Anglican church grounds and have prayers when they have a
thousand mosque in the city. Go to a mosque. Why
are you insaulting our faith? My goodness. We have the situation,

(01:18:59):
if you back, in which a Christian was preaching at
Hyde Park and a Muslim complained because when the Muslim
is up there, it's supposed to be a debate, and
he said, I'm here to debate, and the Christian asked questions,
and he didn't like what the Christian had to ask.
They were legitimate questions about his faith. So then when
the Christian got up spoke and walked over to comp
and said, I feel I feel you know, I feel threatened.

(01:19:21):
This isn't right. I mean what he's saying is I'm fearful.
They warned the Christian to stop speaking at Hyde Park
or he would be arrested. This is a society that's
backwards and gone wrong. This is a society that arrests
sixteen year old kids standing on the street carrying the
Union jack. In the United Kingdom, it's the national flag.
They have no pride in their country. They've surrendered it

(01:19:43):
to people who have no cultural assimilation or desire to
be part or to be a brit It's sick, it's twisted.
This isn't like when the wind Rush generation went to
the UK after post World War two and we're needed
because there were no men. They all got killed in
the war, and so I'm huge. And he had two
generations that First World War with the Big Dip. All
his men died in the First War. Then you had
another one and the Second World War and the wind

(01:20:04):
Rush generation of people from the Caribbean came to the
UK and made a major contribution to social life, to industry,
to society became Brits adopted the culture. Wars and Norms
retained some of their cultures to stick to this. This
isn't that these are groups illegally slipping into the UK
them being housed by the government. It's the expense of
Brits who live worse than these people, living in hotels

(01:20:26):
and living in housing that they're provided for free of
charge at the expense of Brits and British taxpayers. And
then they they buy for Kate Society. They create Sharia
zones in in in in London. Excuse me, I losto
sex secutar there London. Also in h where's the damn airport?
I mean anyway, but no, not Manchester. Well yeah they're
Manchester too, but no, but I mean I've been through

(01:20:46):
on no. No, he threw there's five up their airports
and drawing a planet right now. It's not it's not
stand said, it's not it's not London, it's not it's anyway,
uh anyway. But the point here is that I've been
through these towns and it's it's like living in Karachi,
or in Baghdad or in Riod. If you want Riodd,
go to Riod. There's a distinct culture, distinct faith there,

(01:21:08):
mistinct style of dress, distinct behavior. That's their cup of tea,
that's their prerogative, but one stents to be subjected that
in their own hometown, whether it's Harrisburg or it's it's
it's Hilton Head or it's Holy Oak in the UK.
It's utter nonsense. And this is something that needs to change.
And when you say these things, they call you a bigot.
Of course. These are the people that never lived among
month Muslims. These are the people who don't speak six languages.

(01:21:31):
These are the people that never defended Muslims from other
Muslims trying to murder them. So know what they're talking about.
I've been there, I've done that. I've got the T
shirt and the scars, so they can shove it where
the sun don't sign. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Hey, folks, you listen to the common sense Conservatives right
here on wsm w SMN fifteen ninety and ninety five
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todm ckimley, Northeast Tennessee. Join Iman, my co host, Colonel
Chris White, and John Groverord in the studio. Yeah, great
discussions so far. John, how's things going in New Hampshire?

(01:22:04):
How's the new Hampshire politics.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Christ Christian, No, not christ who actually brother Johnson?

Speaker 4 (01:22:12):
Brett Bair said Christian, I said Johnson to my news report,
and I laughed when he said Christan tonight was a joke. Yeah, oh,
he's making fun of the fund of Brett Bair, he
said Christian. I'm like, no, it's not Christian, it's Johnson.
Then they they, to their credit, they corrected at the
end of the days before we went live.

Speaker 5 (01:22:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Yeah, I think a lot of people got that confused.
They are brothers.

Speaker 7 (01:22:33):
And uh Johnson new was at one time held a
seat in the House for one term I think or
maybe two. Uh, and he held a one term in
the Senate and now he decided to throw his hat
back in the ring again. And uh so he's going
to run on this next election cycle on the Senate.
So he's going up against in the primary. Probably his

(01:22:54):
greatest threat is Brown, Scott Brown, and I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
Not sure in Massachusetts. I don't think that.

Speaker 7 (01:23:01):
I'm not sure Scott Brown does live in New Hampshire.
Now he is originally from Massachusetts. You're right, it was
an issue with him, and I forget what that issue was.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
He has a track record as a senator there. We's'tke
governor also briefly too, or maybe I'm mistaken about that.
I know he's a senator. He filled in that that
that Senate seat, But now I don't think that's competition.
I think if Don Buldock ran again, that would be competition.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
That would be awesome. I'd love to love to see him.

Speaker 7 (01:23:25):
But anyway, I think my prediction is it's going to
come down to Sununu and Chris Pappus and the general election.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
It's going to be a tough race.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
It's gonna be a lot a lot of money, a
lot of blood spilled.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Perhaps I'm expecting a lot of money.

Speaker 7 (01:23:40):
In fact, I was discussing that with somebody recently and
they were like, you know, it's gonna be like fifty million.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Dollars or something for candidors.

Speaker 7 (01:23:46):
So you know, this thing is getting out of hand
out with all the spending, and it's my understanding a
lot of the DC money's already back in and Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
So we'll see how that goes. And I guess there's
a lot of people throw their hat in the ring.

Speaker 7 (01:23:57):
And I haven't looked at the names and stuff, but
those are the two that I do you know of
and we're just gonna have to see how it goes
between those two.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
But yeah, I beg I put my money on Sonoon
and to beat out Brown.

Speaker 4 (01:24:07):
Okay, good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Yeah, absolutely So, Uh who are you going to back
or you just gonna wait to see how it plays out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
I am going to be doing some research and looking
at all the candidates.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
I don't like to.

Speaker 7 (01:24:20):
I'm not saider jumping on Ston new New for namesake
or Brown because I happened to seen his name before.
You know, I'm not gonna be people I want to.
I want to really start doing I know su already.
I started looking some stuff up and on the freedom Index,
he was only pushing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Fifty eight percent.

Speaker 7 (01:24:34):
It's not very high as far as the freedom index goes.
I know he's gone against certain gun laws, but he's
also stood up against abortion bills that have come up,
and so there's a lot to look into though, to
see about pass votes, history and stuff, and see where
he see what he has to say today.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
That's the most important thing is see if he's changed
on his platform some and gauge it. You know, that's
all you can do.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
Absolutely, hopefully we ca get him on on this program.
That'd be kind of get interesting. Maybe we just probing
that way, right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Yeah, that's the way to do. Man, but his feet
to the fire right here.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
Don't be afraid.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Absolutely So yeah, round robin. Anything else anybody wants to discuss.
I don't want to haul the spotlight.

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
I know I got plenty of stuff here. This Hard
University professor journalism doctor Stacy Patton believes that white allies
should take a page out of insurrectionist John Brown's book.
She's openly calling for white people to raise an insurrectionist country.
This race bader from Howard University, which, by the way,

(01:25:38):
I want to supons to pime had someone from Howard
University with a PhD who was functionally illiterate, So I'm
not too convinced to what they teach at Howard Ner,
which is ironically named after a white abolitionist. But anyway,
she said that Brown himself was wounded and ten of
his followers, including two sons, were killed. This, of course,
when he stormed Harper's ferry, he was trying for murder,

(01:25:58):
slave insurrection, and tree and against the state. Was convicted
and hanged. So when white allies asked, what can I
do here's the answer. Be like John Brown, ask yourself
what I'm willing to burn so somebody else can breathe.
Brown didn't need a syllabus, a think piece of guybook,
and an allyship. He didn't need affirmation from black folks
that he was one of the good ones. He saw
the horror for what it was and decided that ending

(01:26:19):
the racist f feree mattered more than being understood. Well, listen,
I'm sorry Stacy erase baiting, erace hater there, Stacy Patton, doctor,
doctor Stacy Patten. But your vicious behavior, your scumbag attitude
towards Americans is really repulsive White allies. I don't know

(01:26:39):
what planet you're on. I'm not an ally of anybody
except our Constitution and Americans. And I don't care if
they're black, white, or brown christa musler to If they're
Americans who would hear to our social arms more rays
in our laws, then they're on my team. But people
like you are just race baiters and race haters and
anti white disgusting. You know what, You can take your

(01:26:59):
white stuff with little pink haired tunnies and Homas and
granny's and you can just march right on out there
to your no King's rally. But I'll tell you what.
I'll stand there with my photograph King Franklin Delano Roosevelt
and the current King and Queen of the ball that
would be Chucky Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. It'd been a
gummer for eighty eight years and you're whining about Donald
trumping officer for just five years. You know, it's just

(01:27:21):
these people are beyond redemption. I mean, Hillary Clinton got
the word right, except she was talking about her own people.
They're irredeemables or she called them deplorables, both of them.
I think she called the deplorables irideemals, a basket of deplorables.
That's what these people are. These are dangerous people run
around denying that Portland is on fire, drawing race into
everything under the sun. I'm sorry. How did Robert Johnson

(01:27:43):
become a billionaire with Bee TV? I guess it was
the plantation that did it for him, kept them on
a plantation. What about a billionaire? The list goes on
and on and on. What about the wildly overrepresentation of
people in the Democratic Party in Congress who are wildly
overrepresentation of black academics, the wildly overrepresented black general officers

(01:28:03):
in the military. When you make up seven percent of
the general of the officer corp in the military, you
shouldn't be eighteen percent of the general's There's something mathematically
wrong about that. So you are performing at three hundred
percent the rate of your peers who are Asian white
and it'spanic. No, you've been promoted because it's politically correct. Now,
that doesn't mean you're not capable. But there's a dozen

(01:28:24):
other guys that are capable who look different than you,
And for appearance's sake, we play these games. I'm so
sick of this garbage. You know, these people, this perpetual victimhood.
This is what's held back the Black community in America
is victimhood. Revin jes A Ducks and Al Sharpton and
Charlatan's like that who preach victimhood and hatred of other people.
And the reason why you're a failure is because the

(01:28:46):
system did it to you. The reason why you're on
food stamps is because the system did to you. The
reason why you have six children by five different women
is because the system made you do it. They're the
ones that denied you at condom. They're the ones that
denied you responsible behavior as an adult. No, no, no, no,
no no. You are the architect of your own failure,

(01:29:07):
not the system. The system obviously works because black folks,
Native Americans, Asian Americans, white folks, Hispanics all rise from
lower classes in the upper mobility of a society. If
you don't make it, it's your fault. Don't blame racism,
don't blame slavery, don't blame you know, Thomas Jefferson. Start

(01:29:28):
taking responsibility for yourself and your actions. Only then you
know we were robbed, You guys, we were robbed. Doctor
Martin Luther King was assassinated before his time. Had King
survived into the seventies, I don't think we would see
the garbage we see today in the society Barack Obama
never would have been possible. Had doctor King lived another
twenty years, never would have been possible. I almost guarantee

(01:29:50):
it he would. He would not have stomached that garbage.

Speaker 7 (01:29:53):
No, people thought that King was assassinated by his own
people because he was the barrier keeping them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
From breaking out into violence. So they wanted the violence
because they.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
Well that's why, that's why Malcolm X was murdered by
his own people for that reason. Yeah, yeah, no, but
I mean that this is this is because Malcolm X,
you know, was very radical and then he talked about
common sense things. We can't have that we want someone
that's going to threaten the white men. You know, this
is ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (01:30:17):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
And you know and and you know white allies. What
are white allies? That's racist?

Speaker 5 (01:30:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
How about just allies to your cause? Not white allies?
What is that nonsense? Anyway? That's sick of this nonsense?

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Yeah, Well it's people that you know, they're just fools,
you know. And people want to talk about racism at
every turn, but are amongst the most racist people that
are out there at every turn they see racism, uh,
you know, or you've been put upon because of your race.
It's like, how about how about their you know, they're
victims of their own circumstances in life in general, as
we all are. You know, we all start at a

(01:30:49):
certain point, but we don't sit there and blame everybody
because you know, I blame my mother and father because
I couldn't do something to better myself, you know, for
crying out loud. Yeah, now they're middle class folks. But
you know, I can probably do something, you know, to
launch myself to do a little bit better. But you
start off at a certain point, a positive point hopefully
most people, and you stand on the shoulders of if

(01:31:10):
your parents or you know, a guardian or whatever, and
you propel yourself in life further to be more successful.
And of course, I think that's the way to pay
homage to your parents and your guardians who cared about you,
is to try to do better than they did, instead
of just sitting around being waiting for society to force
you into victimhood, which.

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
Is not the truth. Well it's okay. It goes right
into this nonsensical narrative about you know, generational wealth, as
if that's a bad thing. It's another wrong with generational wealth.
If you work hard and earn and develop and build something,
you should be able to bequeath that to whoever you want,
including your heirs. But you know, I mean, you know,
these people act like everybody's generation wealth. My mother, my father,

(01:31:50):
my stepfather, other stepfather of all passed on. Do you
know what I got nothing except DNA. All I got
was DNA, and I made the most of it. So
I don't want to hear this crap about generational wealth
and how people have any I mean, my family were
elite nobles in the courts of Kings of England in
the first royal governor James Town County Virginia was his

(01:32:11):
seventeenth great uncle. Well, one of the best poets in
the history of England was my ancestor, Adam Wyatt. You
know this, Adam, why see me? I'm yeah, sorry throwing
one anyway, but Sir Thomas White anyway. But it's ridiculous
to hear this nonsense. I mean, I didn't grow up
with any of that. I did, wasn't bequeathed any of that.
The other thing I was bequeathed from all of those

(01:32:31):
thousands of years of history and human development was the
DNA that I've got. That's it. I didn't get a
generation wealth, So stop the nonsense. If I have money
to leave to people, then that's my progative other than
the state confiscating. So if you happen to be from
a family that's done well. I mean, I don't begrudge
the family of Robert Johnson. I assuming a kids. I
don't know the story. The guy found a b et
He's welcome to leave it to his heirs. Kenneth Kenneth Chanel,

(01:32:54):
who headed an American Express to Black American He's welcome
to leave that wealth to his kids behind. That's just.
And this nonsense about general is generous. Wealth is stupid.
It's absolutely stupid. People who build a legacy, it should last.
And there's nothing wrong with being born a child of privilege,
nothing wrong with that. But you know, it's what you
do with your life. It's the content of your character,
it's the behavior, it's the nature of your actions. That's

(01:33:17):
what matters. That is the secret sauce, one of the
secret sauces that made America America. And this garbage that
we've been fed for the past fifteen years, since the
arise of Barak who's saying Obama to the White House
about people should be ashamed of who they are. We're
guilty collective guilt for the actions to fuel the past.
That's nonsense, that's Unamerican. Those people hate America America. Is
you are you? You were responsible for you, not your parents.

(01:33:40):
We don't take you out and shoot you all the
Google log because your cousin was called stealing something like
they're doing in Sovietia. No, you are you, You're responsible
for you and that's as far as it goes. Your
grandfather was the president ied state, so what. Your grandfather
was a convicted bank Robert so what. It's not you,
you or you. You are held accountable for your actions
and that it's the magic of America, not this garbage

(01:34:02):
that these racists, these hypocrites, and these leftist lunatics push.
And quite frankly, I've about had enough of it, the
behavior going on the streets of the United States right now.
These lives, oh oh, no way, kings go out and
attack the agents and follow the agents around. It is
time to begin to enforce the law. And I'm calling
on the Trump administration to stop pussy footing around and

(01:34:22):
start using the authority of the federal government to go
after these politicians who are arguing for insurrection, including that
former soldier in Oregon and the city council who's telling
National guardsmen to dissipate lawful orders by lying and confusing
them because they don't know some of they're being told
that they're being told some it's illegal. It is not illegal.
The purpose of the Guard includes civil disturbance, and they

(01:34:44):
can be federalized by the federal government. It's a matter
of law, it's a matter of the constitution. These people
need to start being held accountable for their actions, including
the reprobates in Congress who are calling for this nonsense.
This is beyond the pale. This is an insurrection the
taking place. Insurrections don't have to have weapons, as they
told us on January sixth, there were no weapons there.

Speaker 5 (01:35:05):
That was an instruction.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
Insurrections are faunting the authority of the federal government. You
are violating federal authority, and that's what they're doing, attacking
ice ations the streets, following them around in danger Lives
dotting iations. Stop it, stop pussy footing around, get serious
about this and start arresting these people and these media outlets.
They should be ashamed of themselves, quite frankly. If they're
required to have license to broadcasts, it should be pulled.

(01:35:28):
When they propagate propaganda, they should have their license pulled.
They want build broadcasts. If one of these major networks
comes out there and it shows nonsense and says well,
this is they're just rounding people. They're not rounding people up.
They're going after criminal alien evators. Oh, but they said
they were going to have criminals. What, it doesn't matter.
They're all criminals.

Speaker 5 (01:35:46):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:35:46):
Oh. So I'm tired of it, and it's about time
for this government to start doing its job. Trump allowed
this nonsense to manifest and fester in twenty twenty, and
I hold them responsible, and I hold the gouvern responsible
now and Eddie Governor like Ribs mcfad in there in
freaking Chicago, in Illinois, Ribs McFadden, that clown and Brandon Johnson,

(01:36:06):
they should have federal indictments against them for fomenting insurrection,
quite frankly, both of them. And we can start there.
We can work our way over to California and start
going after gruesome Gavin Newsom. These people are illegitimate leaders
who are calling for violence against federal authorities who are
simply executing the rule of law. Laws by the way,
the Democrats voted for they're the ones. Remember the law

(01:36:28):
and order president that was Bill Clinton. And remember with
Senator Clinton and Chucky Schumer arguing these people were illegal
they should be arrested and deported. What changed their electoral
fortunes changed, and now they're for everything that isn't Donald
Trump and everything that's un American. They're anti American, and
quite frankly, they're kind of satanic.

Speaker 5 (01:36:48):
Yeah, evil.

Speaker 7 (01:36:49):
I would caution about infringing on people's constitutional rights to
free speech.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
No, no, no, free speech is free speech inciting violence?
So many instructions not free speech.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
That's not free right.

Speaker 5 (01:37:02):
Correct.

Speaker 7 (01:37:03):
We've had that discussion, and as far as Trump's authority,
we discussed that on this show. Under Title ten usc Et,
Section two fifty three, the President may use the militia,
armed forces, or both are by any other means necessary.
When states refused and enforced their own laws, it's the law.

Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
It's the law. So look, I mean no, of course
people have a right for free speech. I have no
problem with this. No brains protests, I mean I mean,
no kings protests. Sorry I had no brains. Yeah, I
have no problem with that. These idiots can go out
protests all they want as law as they have a permit.
They don't disrupt the public peace, they're not causing any scenes.
I have no problem with that. They look foolish. I

(01:37:43):
was hilarious watching. You know, I've always said stupid people
should carry signs. Guess what all weekend they carried signs
and no Kings rally showed how stupid they were. I
have no problem with that. Expose yourself, show your sign,
here's your sign, as Bill Angvall said, I don't have
a problem with that. But people who foment violence, people
who threaten federal authority, people who docks federal authorities, that
is not free speech. There is consequence. There are consequences

(01:38:04):
to speech, and when you commit crimes, you should be
held accountable. These people are committing crimes, and that city
councilman in Oregon, in Portland, it needs to be arrested.
And I don't know, I don't know if he is
a reserve obligation or if he's still in the Guard
or whatever, but if he has any federal obligation, he
needs to be recalled the active duty and have a
court martial for his actions because he's inciting federalized National

(01:38:26):
Guard troops to disobey lawful orders.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
Yep, absolutely and being well well within the rights of
the National Guard or the big Army whatever to recall
him in court martial.

Speaker 4 (01:38:36):
And that's absolutely correct.

Speaker 7 (01:38:38):
So well, yeah, weaponizing speech is not free speech. And
they accused Trump of that. Remember on January sixth, twenty
twenty one.

Speaker 4 (01:38:46):
Which, of course, which of course was a lie. I
heard what Trump said before I walked to the Capitol building.
He said, let's walk peacefully to the Capitol being and
let our voices be heard. Day break into the building.
He didn't say carry firearms, he didn't say attack anybody.
He didn't take cast chaos. He encouraged people to peacefully.
He used the word it's right. There is the recording
of it. Peacefully marks there and have our voices be heard.

(01:39:08):
That is a constitutionally guaranteed right under the First Amendment.
How is that a problem only for Democrats and fake Republicans?

Speaker 5 (01:39:16):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
Hey, do you guys hear about to saw judge in
the Chicago area announced that under his ruling, any ICE
agents come into his court building, that they can be
arrested for trying to arrest illegal immigrants.

Speaker 4 (01:39:34):
Well, that judge is going to find himself indicted under
federal statutes. And just like the other judge who was
letting a little aliens slip out the back door when
I came to rest him, she wound up in jail.
She's not laughing now, She's not laughing now. These the
fact that someone has a robe in their judge doesn't
mean they have common sense or that they obey the law.
You know, we had we had the Warren Court or
the Warrant Court under you know, back in the nineteen

(01:39:57):
nineteen sixties to seven warr who passed the Voting Rights Act.
Nineteen sixties, the Supreme Court passed the Voting Rights Act,
which is unconstitutional. The Voting Rights Act forces the federal
government to create districts and majority black That's unconstitutional. That
is not equal protection, that violence equal protection clause the
Fourteenth Amendment. All Americans must be treated equal under law.

(01:40:18):
When you artificially create things like affirmative action, which is
not affirmative, it's destructive, destructive action. When you create voting
districts that look like this drawn across Louisiana from one
end to the other by for Kadi a state to
get a couple of cities and a majority black population
because of the racist bigotry of thinking that, well, white
people won't vote for black people. Really, how did Tim

(01:40:39):
Scott become the Republican from South Carolina? How do other
black politicians get elected of white folks? How did Bury
Obama become the president when seventy five percent of the
voters were white because they voted for him. And to
put this in the other way, flipping around, well, black
folks not well for wife, Well they do. In Zimbabwe
we saw Roy Bennett, a member the Move for Democratic

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Chain in a ninety nine point seven percent black district
elected to the parliament, overwhelming over seventy eight percent of
vote for him. So if a white man can be
elected by all those black people in a country in Africa,
surely Americans will vote for the best candidate. And if
you put a black person us the best candidate, people
vote for them. Bobby Jindahl is not your average Anglo Saxon.

(01:41:21):
He's in India, a majority white state. Louisiana elected him
to be the governor a couple of times, did they not,
I mean, this is.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
The burger court or the burger will say, I will say,
Bobby General's accent is very very white, just so you know, well, yeah,
it's very very Southern too, but.

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
That's because he grew up down there. But the point,
but the point is is that it is it is
is bigoted a racist to assume that white voters won't
vote for a black candidate. Winston Erralm sar Or Winston
Serials in Virginia is a lieutenant governor. She has in
the polls forty four percent of the vote. Right now,
if that's how it turns out, so it's a majority
white state, that means most of our voters are white.

(01:42:03):
White people will vote for black Canonate. Creating districts that
are artificially black is a violation of the equal protection
and it's an abomination. The Voting Rights Act in nineteen
sixty five in many respects of disgrace, there are valuable
elements of it. Then ensure that the federal government has
a role to make sure the elections are fair. I'm
okay with that, but creating artificial districts guaranteeing I mean,
what about Native American districts. Are we going to create

(01:42:24):
one in Arizona that's all just you know Navajo. We're
going to create one that's all Apache in New Mexico.
I mean, we do we create an all Asian where
it's gonna be all Asian. There's no all majority Asian anywhere,
So what do we do? Do we take a neighborhood
ar China town doesn't enough elected, doesn't have left toduct
the member of Congress. So you take here and you
take that. So what do we take the Chinatown in

(01:42:45):
La the one in San Francisco, the one in Bakersfield,
and then link them all together in a disconnected congressional
district called the ninety ninth district and give it to it.
It's stupid, it's stupid. It's and the Supreme Court is
about to overturn that part of the Voting Rights Act,
Thank goodness, after sixty have damaged this country. The reason
we have so many Democrats in Congress who are black
is because they have Jerrymander districts to ensure that black

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people don't have to have any talent. All they have
to do is run as a black man or woman.
That's a disgrace. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
I'm reading some some headlines here and uh I one
just caught my eye.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
I don't, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
Luigi Mangione, he killed the CEO a couple of months
ago or a year ago, whatever, said he was beaten
by lady boys in Thailand just a few months before
he became an assassin. I'm like man hanging out with
the wrong crowd there, buddy, you have beaten up by
lady boys.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
And also, why would you admit that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
I don't get that you're psychologically damaged? That's his that's
oh yeah, I don't know if I argue or right. Yeah,
it wasn't my fault. I was psychologic damage. It's it's
Thailand's fault.

Speaker 5 (01:43:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:50):
The lady boys, they beat me up. I don't I
don't know what he was trying to do.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Lady boys, I'm telling you what.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
Yeah, I mean, they're actually guys, by the way.

Speaker 4 (01:43:58):
They I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
I don't understand the whole fascination, but you know, an
odd duck for sure. But I thought I thought that
was funny headline Lady boys being a beat MANNGIONI all
right anyway.

Speaker 7 (01:44:09):
So I mean we Todd kind of titled this foolishness
and stupidity tonight. Apparently, oh that's what I took out
of it. And I'm sitting there looking at an article
from about Randy Winguard.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
You know the English Proficiency.

Speaker 7 (01:44:26):
Executive Order that Trump signed, which happens to be a
federal regulation since nineteen thirty seven that you have to
be able to read, write, and speak the English language
in order to d a license or be a commercial
truck driver, and so she up and decided that this.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
Is illegal and wrong, and she is going to sue
the Trump administration. That's not even in her lane, dude.
She's representing teachers and she's over here trying to see
administration for truck drivers. This one squandered more money from
the organization.

Speaker 7 (01:44:59):
And my thoughts are, isn't this what they'd like to
refer to as misappropriation of funds? She's not using it
for its intended purpose as a labor trade organization.

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
Well, I think that a federal judge should issue a
warrant for the media arrest or Randy Winegarden for being
an oxygen thief.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
Yeah, for somebody lacking brain cell. She sure does use
her more than her fair sharing.

Speaker 5 (01:45:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
Well, she runs her mouth, that's where all the oxygen goes.
But you know, she's an oxygen thief. She's an absolute disgrace.
And it just shows you the abysmal nature of teachers'
unions that they elect an idiot like that in charge
of it. As you said, the law is from nineteen
thirty six. Who was president in nineteen thirty six? I
think it was King Roosevelt. Wasn't it Todd, that's right. Yeah,
King Roosevelt and his pack Supreme Court and his demon

(01:45:42):
rats Senate in House. So demon rats passed this law.
And now she's pretending that Trump is violin law. She's
a moron. They're all idiots. They don't even know the constitution.
This idiot on a council up there in Oregon telling
people to disobey lawful orders. They have an obligation not
to bail in order if it's not lawful. Well, you know,
being told to go out and stop riots when you're
federalized as national Guard, even if the state could calls

(01:46:04):
you up, is your responsibility. It's how it's done. You know,
they have more They have more anger over this than
the shootings that can't state back in the seventies. They
get all and a tizzy over this because how do
these people get attention? They're so clueless. The media are
so shamefully you give attention. It's it's like listening to
you know, we all want to date, of course, Alexandra

(01:46:25):
ksen Cortez. You know, I mean my brain drops fifty
IQ points every time shows her mouth and I listened
to her. It's these people, I mean, I tell you.
What if I keep listening to them, I'm going to
be put in a home for the functionally.

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:46:38):
It's I realized the reason why none of us conservatives
are dating AOC is simply because our wives won't permit it.

Speaker 5 (01:46:45):
Our wives.

Speaker 4 (01:46:48):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
No, now I'm not dating AOC because she would never
shut up. I can just picture it now. Oh blah
blah whah whah whah wahlah blah blah blah. Okay, listen, listen, baby,
enough enough? Okay, yeah, well, I mean what else you
gonna call her? I mean, you know, other than something profane?

Speaker 5 (01:47:07):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
Anyway, So let's listen, sweetheart. Just go pay the credit
card bill. Okay, what you do is let me show you.
You log into the computer here. Oh you spent twenty
thousand this month with your income with six thousand. See
see you're not supposed to do that. Now you got
to pay twenty nine percent interest, and which means you'll
never pay this off. Your genis I want a divorce?
Bye bye?

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
Are you marrying her?

Speaker 5 (01:47:29):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
I just thought, but we weren't dating her for that reason.
You already already got her in mind for marriage.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
Listen to man, oh please. We You know, all Republicans
secretly want to date her, don't you. I mean that's
the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
So I you know, I'm more of a Jasmine Crockett fan,
you know, because I like toxic.

Speaker 4 (01:47:45):
Oh she's toxic and she's quite volid old jazzy man.
Oh yeah, Jazzy Crocket many that's racist. Oh listen, everything's racist.
Trump's a racist. How is the racist? Well, he says
a racist. Can you explain it? Why do I've explain it?
You should see he's a racist.

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
But I hear she made losing her seat this year
or this next election cycle, so I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:48:04):
Sure she won't. That was below the belt. That was
below the belt.

Speaker 3 (01:48:09):
Yeah, yep, absolutely, we'll see. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
So what what what?

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
Here's one thing we haven't talked about in a couple
of shows, the war in Ukraine.

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
When does this thing get wrapped up? Where are we
at with that? There's a war in Ukraine? I thought
it was a video.

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
Game putin and Trump decided not to have this up
and coming meeting.

Speaker 4 (01:48:30):
And that's why that's why I brought that up.

Speaker 7 (01:48:32):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, this is an ongoing thing.
We were talking last week and your absence. They're todd
about Trump is entertaining the thoughts of sending some tomahawks
over there for.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
But I don't think that's what he's doing.

Speaker 7 (01:48:44):
I think that was more of a rumor because I
saw another article stating something about, you know, there's nothing
wrong with him having long range of weapons, but he
didn't mention tomahawks in that.

Speaker 4 (01:48:54):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's off off the.

Speaker 5 (01:48:58):
Way.

Speaker 7 (01:48:58):
I gotta address this one, holding you're way off the
You're way off the ball out of the ballpark on
that one.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Janet Reno, No, my god, I can never date anything
that ugly.

Speaker 4 (01:49:10):
Well you'll be dating a corpse while you're at it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
Oh yeah yeah, Will Farreplater in SNL hilarious by the way.

Speaker 7 (01:49:20):
Well, yeah, the comment was is Holden said, I took
john Ford having a thing for Janet Reno.

Speaker 2 (01:49:25):
Oh my god. Oh come on, yeah, wow, what a joke.

Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
So between now and now and next week, what what's
on your guys agenda moving forward over the next week.

Speaker 4 (01:49:40):
Well, I'm hoping that beyond hope, I don't think it's
gonna happen to at least the thirty to thirty first
But I'm kind of hoping that the that the Senate
were Democrats back down and we passed this funny but
it only goes to November something else. So now I
have to come up with a bill that goes even longer,
so then get a budget. But I'm hoping they get
that done because I mean, todd, we may not get
paid come into the month. It possible.

Speaker 5 (01:50:01):
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:50:01):
I was actually surprised to see money in my account
on the first of October. And actually I was out,
as I told John, last week, I was out in
Idaho and of course two hours buy and so I
was online at ten o'clock and after midnight I went
into my bank account. There was no money there. I'm like, oh, well,
didn't get paid. Thank god I paid the mortgage sat
last week. But so I was a bit surprised when
the money showed up later that day. And then, you know,

(01:50:23):
but I don't think, I don't know we're going to
see any pay now.

Speaker 7 (01:50:26):
I mean, you know, traditionally veterans always got their pay
and so security always went out and things like that.
But you're you're actually feeling concerned that you may actually
not be getting paid.

Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
Well, I'm not concerned. I've paid my mortgage already. I
mean no, I mean but I've got plenty of cat
food in the basement to tie me over till my.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
Are you a frisky sort of guy, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:50:49):
I'm a fancy feast.

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
I like the fancy feast I should have. He's upper
get the crystal glass you get to put.

Speaker 4 (01:50:54):
Your fancy feast. But you know the thing is, you
got electricity to heat it up, because that stuff congeals.
It's kind of a nasty wal but anyway, so it's
kind of like a red bull. Red bull's got to
be cold. Your fancy feet has got to be hot.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
He has them at the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:51:11):
Absolutely there, you know, the little self.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
Grooming here could be a frat.

Speaker 4 (01:51:18):
Oh, let's not get started with those people.

Speaker 5 (01:51:20):
Furries.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
We got just a short period of time here left
what we got like, well, that's seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
All right, folks, we'll see you next week here becoming
sense conservatives wait right here, seven to nine Eastern every week.

Speaker 4 (01:51:31):
Take care until then, God bless you.