The Common Sense Conservatives with Dr. Carole Lieberman

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters, every Wednesday
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Making sense of an inverted reality. We are subject to
you every day. The Common Sense Conservatives are here to
help bring me back to reality. Now your host Chris Wyatt,
Todd McKinley, and John Golovin.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Hello, everyone, and the book The Common Sense Conservatives. Apparently
mister Tom McKinley want not to be joining us this
first hour. He has some important things to do. I
don't know what could be more important to being here
in the Common Sense Conservatives, but he does have some
obligations that he's got to do with. So we'll miss
him on this first star. Hopefully we'll see him in
the second hour. Chris, I gotta tell you I was

(00:54):
offended by the no Kings protest because as a king myself,
I you know, what do they mean by this no kings?

Speaker 4 (01:01):
A king?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Well? I was pretty offended by it because these idiots
can have their stupid little temper tantrums any day of
the week. But the United States Army only celebrates this
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary once every two hundred and
fifty years. So the disgraceful anti American hate wlanking, scumbag,
unpatriotic leftists losers can get on a bus and we'll

(01:26):
take them down to Miami and put them on a
dinghy and send them to Cuba where they belong.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
There you go. Yeah, I kind of think it's funny
because they're protesting Trump on such a day. Was it
not Biden who approved this parade? Was it not Biden
who's at the funding aside for this parade? Like last year,
the year before, I'm not sure which.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Well, the event has been playing for two years by
the US Army. The parade was initially muted under the
Biden regime, if I understand correctly, but Trump brought it
back and they just they make this whole thing out
about Donald Trump and instead of appreciating us, and I
have zero respect for these people, and I can't even
tolerate them anymore. I mean, it's sort of people that
you see them on the side of the road and

(02:04):
you just want to spit in their general direction because
they're vile, subhuman, disgusting pukes. I mean, we only get
one day to celebrate this. This is such an amazing accomplishment,
the greatest nation in the history of humankind, and these
slime balls with their Trump derangement syndrome want to ruin
it for us. It's not the army's fault that Donald
Trump was born on the fourteenth of June. It's also

(02:27):
Flag Day. You know, this is this unbelievablest people have
no respect for any dignity or anything. They're not Americans,
they claim the Americans with their little lofty ideals, but
they're really just a bunch of hateful shrews who anybody
disagrees with them. That may say sound ironic coming from
me right now, because I'm really just spitting pestilence in
bile at them, which is what they deserve. But the

(02:48):
reality is that conservatives don't run around and act like
they do. These people are shameful. You know, on the
little day we get the murder Baby's Day, we don't
run out and protest against them. We let them have
a little free speech there. We like to murder babies. Oh,
that's I'm sorry, that's choice. That's what that's called choice.
We like to murder babies day now. It's just look,
I've had enough of this nonsense, John, It's time that

(03:11):
we stamp this idiocy out by exposing it. These people
for the ghules, the death loving ghules that like to
murder children in the womb. By the way, you know
we need immigrants. Why because our birthrates and neg if Yeah,
because you kill eight hundred thousand babies per year. Let's
start with that one and go from there.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Good lord, Yeah, yeah, there are the arguments were ridiculous.
But speaking of Trump to arrangement syndrome, we do have
somebody waiting to come, men that would like to talk
about Trump Trump arrangement syndrome. Are you all ready for that?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Well? Yeah, and hopefully the doc will give us a
little bit of you know, reassurance here, because really, these people,
there aren't enough psychiatrists to treat the millions of lunatics
in this country who have this disease. But let's bring
her in.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Awesome, awesome, So doctor Carol Lieberman, who has accomplishment so long,
we'd probably take the entire were to cover all of them.
How you doing, Carol Lieberman, thank you. And for those
who are not familiar with you, would you like to
give us a quick rundown about yourself, your history, and
what you're all about.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Sure. I am a Beverly Hill psychiatrist. I treat patients
and I'm also a forensic psychiatrist, meaning being an expert
witness in criminal and civil cases. I'm an author of
four books, two on terrorism and two on relationships, including

(04:33):
a five A lot of awards for the books, including
my latest a five time award winner, Lions and Tigers
and Terrorists, Oh My, how to protect your child in
a time of terror, and which is particularly relevant today
we're as we're about to enter or we've already entered,
or Israel war and what else. I come from New York.

(05:00):
That's why I'm now living in California. But but my
being born and bred in New York led me to
become what I call the terrorist therapist on After nine
to eleven, And that's you know why I do a
lot of I'm involved with a lot of things in
regard to terrorism. I created music videos for the anniversary

(05:25):
and also for ten seven and.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
What else.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
Well, I've helped people you know, in America cope with terrorism,
and in England and in France, Paris, and now I'm
volunteering and helping people in Israel by Zoom. So that's
and of course I do a lot of television, I
do a lot of podcasts, radio, you know, to help people,
to give people insight into what's going on in the world.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Awesome. So, yeah, it seems like there's a lot of
terrorism in the world. Where's this terrorism coming from?

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Where is it coming from?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, I mean it seems like it's it's constant anymore,
all over the globe. We see it, We see it constantly.
I mean, where's all this terroism. It's not coming from
the politically right, from what I can see, it's not.
It's not conservatives that are ushering this in here. So
what's going on.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
About radical Islamist terrorism? I mean, yes, we do have. Yeah,
for example, the students you know, protesting and so on
and being pro Hamas and anti Israel and all of that.
You know, those are domestic terrorists. But terrorism began, you know,
over a thousand years ago in the Middle East with

(06:40):
radical Islamist terrorists who began teaching their you know, their
children from the time that there are toddlers to hate Israel,
to hate Jews, not just Jews, though, to hate anybody
who is a non believer, a non believer in Islam.

(07:01):
And so so this has been you know, they're they've
they've infiltrated Europe. I mean, Europe doesn't look like Europe anymore. Uh.
It's really gotten to be a critical mass of so
many people in Europe who are like, particularly in France
and in the UK and Germany and Belgium, they are

(07:24):
just raping women and and men for that matter, boys
and uh, and and doing various kinds of attacks like
every day. We don't hear about it from the mainstream
media in America, but you can see it online and
and people are so shocked to hear about this what

(07:44):
they're doing what in Europe, you know, And that is
what they of course plan, excuse me, plan to do
in America. When I've when nine to eleven happened, and
I first, uh, you know, and that's when I decided
that I would become the terrorist therapy to help people
cope with terrorism. I knew it was going to be
the most important, the biggest problem that we would have

(08:06):
to face in our lives. But I didn't really know
that much about terrorism, and so I, you know, did
a lot of research, and I went to a lot
of conferences and so on and spoke to people who
were had been, you know, experts in this field. And
what they said, and I'll never forget this, what they
said back then in these conferences and lectures and so on,

(08:30):
was about how terrorists are invading America, not just physically.
I mean, we do have cells all over America now,
but not just that, but they have been climbing in
specific areas of our culture where they get a lot
of power. So politics, of course, is one like the squad.

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And in education, which is why our kids are being taught,
you know, the wrong all kinds of wrong information in school,
not even acknowledging nine to eleven in a lot of schools,
and in in media, you know, so that they can
present a skewed view of what terrorism is, and you know,

(09:15):
to to not and to not show what's happening in
the rest of the world, you know what terrorists are doing.
So politics, education, media, law to some degree in various
important positions, and over the years since nine to eleven,

(09:36):
they have been gradually creeping up to have higher positions
in these areas, and and that is how they have
a lot of power over what's happening in America. You
know Minnesota for example. You know, they they there are
there are so many cities that are essentially mostly Muslim.

(10:01):
And I'm not saying that all Muslims are terrorists, and
not all terrorists are Muslim. However, however, you know they
and yes, now they're they've combined with leftists in politics,
and although there are things that they really don't agree on,
but they see that it helps. It's helpful if they

(10:23):
join forces because then they're more powerful and could have
more control. I mean, obviously terrorists, radical Islamis, terrorists don't
believe in in LGBTQ plus whereas leftists do, for example.
But but they're just kind of ignoring that for the
time being.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
So they would they're just trying to ride along and
once they have they're empowered, then they would start attacking
that that group of people.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
Right then they'd attack each other, right, yeah, I kind of.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I can't though, it'd be nice to cover all radical
Muslim terrorism because you know, just saying it plainly, it
just it just needs to be said. I think you know,
from from a psychological perspective, would you classify Islam as
a religion if they're encouraging people to cause harm to
other people?

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Well, I mean the Quran does say that you have
to smite the unbelievers, the infidels, So you know that
is a religion. I mean that is I mean, I
think you're trying to say it's not a very peace
although they try to say that it's a religion of peace.

(11:37):
Clearly there are things in it in the Qoran and
that aren't very peaceful. But you know, it's it's particularly
it's obviously getting to be more and more important and Americans.
You know, I've been doing this, working hard on this.
I spent a lot of my time, you know, as
I said, writing books on terrorism, doing speak engagements. Also

(12:00):
I do a podcast called The Terrorist Therapist Show. So
I do all of these things to try to wake
people up to the danger. And yet so many Americans
just have their head in the sand and they don't
want to believe that that terrorists could hurt them. You know,
when net and Yahu came some months ago and talked

(12:21):
before Congress, uh, he talked about how how this like
the College students who are protesting really are so ignorant,
they don't they're fools, they're puppets of the terrorists. Because
for extance, he gave us an example, the gaze for Gaza.
Now he said, gays for Gaza is like chickens for KFC,

(12:45):
because Gaza terrorists, you know, are very much against LGBTQ plus,
And so if you were gay and in Gaza or
any other Middle Eastern country except for Israel, you'd be
thrown off a root. So so what they're they're so ignorant,
they don't know what they're saying. And you know why

(13:06):
they're doing it, Well, there are a couple of reasons.
I mean, the people who are from those countries who
are in college are doing it, of course to protect
because to protect the so called Palestinians. But even you know,
the Americans have been taught since they've been in school,
at least since grade school or middle school, they've been

(13:29):
taught that there are only two kinds of people in
the world, the oppressed and the oppressors. And they've defined,
or the school teachers have helped them define Israel and
Jewish people as the oppressed ors and the poor Palestinians
as the oppressed, so they identify with the oppressed and
that's why they, you know, think they have to speak

(13:50):
out for Palestinians. It's really but you know, so it
has the the level the danger in America due to
terrorism has been gradually creeping up each year. And now
we even have a man running for mayor in New
York City who is basically a terrorist. And you know,

(14:16):
so it's in a lot of different ways. It's kind
of coming to a head, and people aren't paying attention
to it, and that it's very dangerous.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I agree. Yeah, I was alluding to that because it
seems to me anything that's going to force you to
believe the way they believe by force is doesn't really
fall into the classification of a religion. To me, that's
more of a cult.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
It's like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, those are religions of force,
you know. And I'm listening to a guy who is
describing Islam as not a religion of peace, but a
religion of justice. But then who's deciding what justice is
but them themselves, And it's like throwing gays off roofs.
You know, I mean, yeah, you don't believe in that,
and a lot of people don't. But you don't murder

(14:56):
people over that. Seems like that's a whole different violation
of your religious belief Maybe not uh uh Islam, I
don't know, but you know, many religions don't believe in murder.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
So yeah, that's why what that direction?

Speaker 5 (15:09):
M Well, yes, you know, and and and you know,
I'll make a segue to Trump derangement syndrome. Yeah, the
segue is that and and well, you know, of course
we can talk about the many facets of Trump arrangement syndrome.
And you know, and it started off when in his
first term, but it's nothing like it is now. It's

(15:32):
much more dangerous, serious, aggressive, violent it's now. But you know,
there are some things where, you know, it's it's one
thing to have these these protests and to and for
for some uh judges to decide that they they don't

(15:56):
agree with Trump, that they don't want to deport some
of the people that Trump is trying to deport. I mean,
you know, and and you know, people who are present
a danger to America and particularly if they're illegal aliens
and so on. But so okay, So that's one way.

(16:17):
These are people who have Trumped arrangement syndrome, and you know,
they they're they're stopping it, not because it really makes
sense from a legal point of view, but because because
they're against Trump. And I'll give you a lot of
other examples. But but what's happening now in the Middle
East is an example of how how dangerous, how critical

(16:40):
it is to not have trumped arrangement syndrome just to
stamp out Trump arrangement syndrome. Because there are people like
Tucker Colson, who you know, I always liked, I was
on at show. You know, people are are who you
wouldn't expect are sort of going crazy and are against Trump,

(17:04):
not really for any rational reason, but but because you know,
but because well I'll explain. I mean, let me give
you the definition for us. It's an irrational, quasi psychotic
hatred of anything Trump, resulting in rage and over the
top efforts to destroy him and his work. So you know,

(17:26):
it is very it can be very dangerous and serious,
and we're seeing that now. People who are saying that
Trump shouldn't help Israel, shouldn't get involved in the war.
You know, they they come up with reasons why. But
really it is just part of Trump's arrangement syndrome because

(17:48):
Israel is our ally there is no question, and Iran
is our enemy, and so there's really it's it's not
brain surgery, there's really no and and and Iran is
very dangerous.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
You know.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Israel is like the Canary and the coal mine. They're
over there. And yes, the radical Islamists want to get
rid of Israel first, but they're coming here. They want
to come here. And as I was saying earlier, that
it's not just about Jews, anybody who doesn't follow their religion.
So so, I mean it's it's sort of a no

(18:23):
brainer that Trump should be on the side of Israel
and help Israel and be against Iran, who does have
nuclear weapons, and and so so people who are who
are coming up against him now, you know, with their
Trump arrangement syndrome, are really putting America in a very

(18:44):
dangerous spot because if he doesn't get rid of of Iran's,
help get rid of Iran, or help Israel to get
rid of Iran's nuclear weapons, then we are in danger,
especially if China and Russia join them. So so you know,
so it's not just about silly things. You know, it's

(19:05):
not just about throwing your shoe with the television if
Trump is on it. You know, that's a minor that's
a mild case. That's one of the symptoms of a
mild case of Trump arrangement syndrome. But like there are
more serious cases like now trying to get everyone to
go against Trump, to stop Trump from helping Israel against

(19:26):
against Iran. Now, if it hadn't been for Obama in
the first place, becoming the BFF of the leaders in
Iran and other Middle East countries, we wouldn't be in
this predicament in the first place. It was that Obama,
you know, who is very very uh anti Semitic, anti Israel,

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got us into this problem when he was president.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
You mean, like given five hundred billion dollars cash die
Iran so they can fund them and they can use
up money to fund the who these and it's one
of and so forth in attack Israel.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
Yes, exactly, irresponsible for October seventh, and and yes, all
of that.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, Chris, you were looking like you wanted to jump
in here on this.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
I'm always looking and I want to jump in. So
usually you guys have me leave these things. So that's
how taking my time I was letting John get through that. So,
you know, Doc, I want to talk about Trump's rangent
syndrome and some depth here, but I mean, really, what
we're talking about here is Chamberlain's peace in our time.
These lunatic you know, theater of appeasement, surrender monkeys that

(20:34):
think that you can deal with these fanatics on a
level playing ground. You know, I'm a little bit disappointed
President Trump right now talking about Iron coming back and
negotiating his unconditional surrender was the statement that I wanted
to see. I thought that was brilliant on truth social
because this regime has in prison it has abused, it
is murdered on lawfully extra judicially thousands of people over

(20:57):
the past forty plus years since they overthrew the Shah.
It's an evil, evil regime. And they're just a bunch
of surrender monkeys here. They're the John Kerry's of the world.
They're the Barack Obombas of the world. But the Trump
derangement syndrome isn't exactly the first iteration of this. Remember
we had Bush derangement syndrome when Bush was present. It
seems to be a pathology in people on a certain

(21:18):
segment of the political left and even some on the right.
You know, we had the never trumpers. What drives this
ignorance and stupidity? And before you answer, I mean, I'm
so sick of hearing that Trump is a dictator, he's
a monarchy's I'm sorry. The guy left office and he
won another election, but he disobeys the rule of law.
Yet every time in his first term, when these lunatics

(21:39):
took him to court, to the Ninth Circuit or to
another court to illegitimately use the courts to hinder the
power of the president granted under the Constitution and the
War Powers Act and legislation. Every time the Trump administration
stopped what they're doing, they went to the courts, they won,
and eventually implemented those things. They're doing the same thing now.
But the problem is that these people keep calling him lawless.

(22:01):
I don't see the lawless here. Unlike Biden, who broke
the Immigration Nationality Act on a daily basis and illegally
imported tens of millions of criminal alienvaders in our country
and undermine our nation fraudilely allowing criminals who enter this
country illegally to apply for asylum, which is not how
the law is written. They don't talk about Biden violating
the law, but they demonically and I'm talking about not

(22:22):
just the people and left, but also these you know,
Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski's and Mitch McConnell clowns. What
is with these people? Is there is there someone tinkling
in their corn flakes or where is it? Because just
Trump is a threat to their self enrichment, self aggrantagement,
and craven political power. Maybe that's what it is, well
for the most.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
Part, And I just want to say something, you know,
I think what Trump has been saying currently, I don't
know that. I mean, I think some of it might
well be to catch around off guard. You know, I
don't know that he really means it that he's still
willing to to have a treaty, because you can't make

(23:02):
a treaty with people who lie. The prophet Muhammad said
war is deceit, and so any treaty that you would
sign is not even worth the paper that it's printed on.
So I'm hopeful that he knows that well.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
I imaginalely imagine it's probably not. You know, it's it's interesting
you mentioned that with what you just quoted there. I mean,
this is right out of Sun Su right out of
the Arthur Shastra on how you do geostrategic strategic relations.
You deceive until you achieve your ends. Ultimately, what you
want to achieve in the end is what matters, not
how you get there. And that's exactly what the ratings
are doing.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Uh huh. So okay, so what makes people, uh, you know,
who gets Trump's arrangement syndrome and why? First of all,
anybody can get it's a it's an equal opportunity syndrome.
Anybody could have it, but it is more likely I've

(24:02):
found I've described two groups that are most likely to
have it first, and one is a certain type of
man and the other a certain type of woman. For men,
it's men who are have low self esteem, men who
compare themselves to Trump. And Trump has all the stereotypical

(24:25):
things you're supposed to want and achieve as a man.
You know, a beautiful wife, a lot of money, success power,
and intelligence, you know, all all the perks in life.
And so men who are more who have low self
esteem are more likely to be angry at Trump for

(24:50):
having all these things and feel like angry that they
haven't achieved it and they don't feel they can achieve it.
So that's one group women. It is particularly women. It's
college educated white women who are particularly susceptible to to

(25:12):
Trump arrangement syndrome, and and and women who in general,
women who are feminist women. It started with the pussy
hats and these kinds of feminist women who have problems
with men and who have decided, you know, that Trump
hates women, and and so they are more likely to

(25:36):
express it. And there are things, you know, on TikTok,
for example, there are things people who put things up
on TikTok telling women this is when he was during
the campaign and when he got elected, you know, when
he won the election, telling women that they should poison well,

(25:57):
they should leave and or poison their man, you know,
their husband or whoever they're dating if they voted for Trump.
And these are women in general who have problems with relationships,
so they're projecting. All of these people are projecting, and
in general, people are projecting their own frustrations about not

(26:19):
getting things in their life that they want or being
angry at things in their life and projecting all this
blaming Trump for all the problems that they have in
their life.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
You know, it's interesting because some of these are the
same very people who fell for the Messiah complex for
an unknown Illinois senator who got elected to the Senate
on an illegitimate election campaign by using dirty tricks to
undermine his opponent, Jack Ryan, that was the name of
the Republican ran against him, but who used to be
married to what's your name, Jerry Ryan, the Seven of

(26:54):
Nine actress, and then their divorce records were unsealed illegally
and spread rumors about their their open sex marriage. You know,
he's the same sort of people who had this Messiah
complex about this unknown loser from Illinois who somehow managed
to become a mentoring candidate and undermined this country as
president of the United States. And then many of them

(27:14):
after voting for him in two thousand and eight, about
five million of them, abandoned him the next time around
in twenty twelve. But they still have the audacity to
act this way about President Trump. I don't really get
the Messiah complex was attached to Obama's hope and change
all he did was change America for the worst, and
he made it hopeless for many people. It destroyed race
relations and put this country on a path to misery.

(27:35):
You know, John was alluding. John's numbers a little bit
inflated there. It wasn't five hundred billion dollars or five
hundred whatever he said. But Obama did ship a few
billion dollars of money that had belonged to the Shah
and to the people of Iran on palate loads and
military aircraft taking it to Iran to enable them. But
that pales in comparison to what Biden did. Biden destroyed
the energy market. He pushed up the price of petroleum

(27:57):
by making uncertainty of the energy markets with his green
d nonsense and his failed foreign policy. And the Iranians
got two hundred and fifty billion dollars of windfall profits
from the extra cost of oil over three or four years.
And that money is what they used to fund the
Houtis and Hamas and has Belah. So I guess, doc,
the question is wait.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
Let me just mention.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Yeah. Good.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
Really, I believe that Obama was still was the puppeteer
of Biden, So he was still president. Really when Biden
was president, so all these bad things, all these things
that you just mentioned that helped Iran was really still Obama.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Well, I agree with one hundred percent there, And the
proof of the putting in that is the fact that
Susan Rice was part of with Biden's cabinet, and she
obviously was running that White House when she was there.
I think we can much dispute on that. Once she left,
that's really when this, this this whole thing came unmoored
and they couldn't cover up what was going on with
Biden anymore. Well, they tried, they tried admiraally, but it's
really frightening this seemingly educated people who've gone to university,

(28:58):
who ought to know better and ought to have and
sense as well as the university degree, who simply lose
their minds. I remember that that protest, and I've in
doc this goes to the heart of the matter. I
know someone who writes for the Congressional Research Service. We
had a professional relationship because I was an Army officer
and I was a source for many of the congressional
reports that she wrote. When I was in Africa talking

(29:19):
about security sector reform in Liberia and many other projects.
And so she's an author who is an analyst that
wrote writes for Congress. Very rudeite, very intelligent, very educated.
And I happened to be up in Scranton, Pennsylvania for
hockey the weekend that Trump was inaugurated. And that day,
as I recall, I was flipping it because I was
staying in a hotel during the day. Nothing to do

(29:41):
in Wilkesbury, trust me, nothing to do there. So I'm
flipping through the television watching all these these protests and
you know, Madonna out there talking about blowing things up,
and these people wearing these idiotic hats with you know,
taking their little girls walking around the streets. I mean,
you have no sense of decorum here. And I'm flipping
through it. And I don't ever do Facebook, but I
happen to go on face Book that day for whatever reason,

(30:01):
got involved with some chat with people, and she was
one of the people showed up in there, and I said,
what is going on here? This is crazy. She came
on and she said that that it was a very
different experience for her. She left her house she lives
somewhere in town, and she went out with her daughter.
They walked down the street and she didn't see any
of that. And I said, well, and this is what
I said to her. I said, well, thank you for sharing that.
That's a very different and she posted some photos. This

(30:22):
is very different than what we're seeing on television. Maybe
the media wants us to see all this bad stuff
that's going on here. But I mean, and then I
and so we agreed. It's rational. People can read. And
then I made the mistake of not realizing I was
dealing with someone with Trump arrangement syndrome. And I said that,
you know, why weren't these people protesting in June when
Congress was in session. They're complaining about women's rights and

(30:43):
equal pay and this, that and the other. I said,
Congress passes legislation. The time to do this would have
been last summer when Congress was still in session, or
to do this when they come back in session. Why
are you doing with Trump is here? Trump has nothing
to do with this right now. This is just because
you hate Trump, not right. And so I said, these
people just hate Trump. They should just be honest about it.
I've never talked to her again. She left the conversation

(31:07):
at work. Am I official government email. I needed a
question answered about somebody. I wrote her. She ignored it.
I called her office, she hung up on me. I mean,
what what is wrong with people like this? First off,
that person should be working for the US goverment if
you can't be an adult to have a conversation like that.
I mean I didn't call her names, I didn't point
any anything at her. But this is what happens. And
you talk about, you know, telling telling them to you know,

(31:28):
poison their husband or partner or something like that. Somebody,
these people are crazy enough to do that. Doc.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
Yes, absolutely, you know. You just have to look at
some of the social media sites. There's one site where
they're telling people to not pay your bills. You know
that that would be one way to protest against the government.
I mean, I let me, let me. I divided this
into uh oh, and the point of this. You know,

(31:55):
I actually was talking about TDS during his first term,
but it was kind of were lighthearted, you know, I
mean not that I mean not not that, I mean
we didn't realize. I didn't realize that, nobody realized I
think at that point just how serious it could get.
But but now I'm trying to I've I've put a

(32:17):
whole diagnostic description together in the form of d s
M the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual Disorders, and I am
going to be submitting it to the American Psychiatric Association
for inclusion in their next DSM. Now, I know that
that's pushing pushing a big rock up a hill, But

(32:41):
but I've given you know reasons why you know why
this should be And and I described mild cases and
and moderate cases and severe cases, and of course in
severe cases, you know, we've been having people trying to
encourage other people to to assassinate Trump. You know, of

(33:04):
course we have we have we have the two assassination
attempts that they're that really happened already. And then Iran
supposedly has been trying to pay We don't hear much
about it, but they've been paying people to assassinate him.
And and then we have Komi and his the seashells
that he happened to find on the on the beach.

(33:27):
What a coincidence. And and so and I'm proposing treatment
because you know, the d s M UH is used
for a couple of different reasons. One is to so
that mental health professionals will have a common language, you know,

(33:48):
so that we could talk about different diagnoses and we
all know what we mean by that. But another use
is by insurance companies when they decide, according to the
code that the diagnosis is, they decide how much they're
going to pay or if they're going to pay to
treat somebody with that diagnosis. So theoretically, if they did

(34:08):
include this in the DSM, then people with Trump arrangement
syndrome could get treated. And I recommend individual treatment and
individual psychotherapy and couples and family therapy. And for those
people who have either moderate or severe TDS and symptoms

(34:35):
that are associated with this that are psychotic, then medication
would be useful. Or also if severe depression or severe anxiety.
So so, and then I conclude with the impact that
TDS is having on individuals and society. And you know,

(34:55):
of course, one of the major ones is the risk
that Trump is under every day for assassination, I mean
his You know, it is amazing how many people would
would risk their life on a daily basis to help America.
Not really, not really, not many with the with the
seriousness of these of these threats, I don't know that

(35:19):
many people would do that.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Well, those of some uniform do it every day, but
not quite to the level that Trump's dealing with. So
it's but I get with your point.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Is true, that's a good point, I mean in terms
of being president.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
So you know, Doc a lighter, lighterhearted moment there. You know,
My thoughts and prayers go out to I've lived in
California when I was a kid. It was amazing. The
Bear Republic was one of the most amazing places in
the planet. When I lived there twenty five years ago,
it was already on a downward clive path many parts
of the state. I lived in Monterey, so it was
spared some of that misery, not like East La or
other parts of southern California up there in northern California.

(35:58):
But you know this whole situation. Are you familiar with
the situation with the Santa Clair University student being forced
to become a therapist, to attend bondage classes at a
Jesuit university and give a sexual autobiography, and they're denying
her her certification and graduation because she won't participate in
this immoral approach. I mean, I can't believe this is a

(36:19):
Jesuit Well, I can't believe. But Georgetown is another university
that does some crazy things. But are you familiar with
the Santa Clair story? You're out there in California. Not really, Oh,
you should check into this one. It's fascinating. It's a
graduate student and marriage and family therapy at Santa Clara University.
And she walked out of a class because there was
a video of a female influencer engaging a sexual bondage

(36:41):
in the class. And when the lights came up, professor
smiled and asked if anyone wanted to try it for themselves.
And then they were told they had to submit their
own sexual autobiography and talk about their awkward sexual positions
and things like this is a university, I mean. And
the argument was, well, you have to be able to
express these things in order to treat people. I mean, look,
I don't don't have to be schizophrenic to treat a schizphrenic,

(37:04):
do I? I mean? How I mean, it's just this
makes those sense whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Also, you're specifically not supposed to talk about your own life,
your own psychological issues, no less sexual issues. You know
that that contaminates the the sexual sexual.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
Well, it pollutes the conversation doesn't it.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Yes, the the therapeutic relationship, asexual therapeutic relationship.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
It's crazy. I mean, it's just insane. So I've sent
you the link to that Wall Street Journal. I bet
she since then lost her internship job apparently at the university.
This just came out this past week. She's been harassed
on campus. She's standing up and maybe, uh, we'll hear
from a little bit later on about this, since you
weren't unfamiliar with the story. But that's out there in California.
It's definitely things are really in many parts of California

(37:53):
on sideways. I mean, we're seeing in Los Angeles, Uh,
the behavior of the mayor who denies that there's any
insurrection going on, and then fosters and foements and insurrection,
and then when the state governor takes no action in
the cities and chaos, the federal agents are attacked. Then
the President activates the California National Guard and they take
him to court over what's allowed under Title ten US

(38:14):
Code and the eighteen Excuse me, the seventeen ninety four Act,
as well as seventeen eighty four eighteen seventy four Insurrection
Act solid ground. Even the Ninth Circuit Court looks like
they're going to agree with Trump's authority here. But it's
just crazy out there. I mean, this is cognitive distance
in my mind. They simply ignore the law because it
doesn't suit their needs. That seems to be I don't

(38:36):
know if psychosis is the right phrase, but it seems
to be the modus operendi for people in the political left,
especially if they don't get their way the court. That's
what they do. Am I missing something here? Am I
being overly insensitive to the left?

Speaker 5 (38:49):
No? No, I don't think so. You know, another example
of a school that is doing crazy, you know, left
woke kinds of things, dangerous kinds of things is u
c l A. You know, even though the attention was
mostly on Harvard and Yale and Columbia and all that,
U c l A also had an incredible and incredible

(39:13):
number of protesters and they were really physically violent towards
Jewish students, and but they also had and I you know,
I got my after I got my MD, I went
to u c l A for a master's in public health.
And also I was in an assistant clinical professor there

(39:35):
for several years, and so I I, you know, have
some allegiance to U c.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
L A.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
But I was appalled to see what was happening there.
And they had for their medical students or an orientation
that was given by some lunatic woman, and it was all,
you know, very woke, very anti Semitic. I mean it
was it was shocking to believe that this could be happening.

(40:01):
You know, it was a class an orientation like a
day or days where she was teaching them all these things.
You know, all these these breed very dangerous kinds of things,
and in fact to the point where where I think
it's kind of dangerous in Los Angeles for Jewish people

(40:25):
to go to UCLA patients because of all this indoctrination
that they're giving their medical students.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Well, frankly, doc, I think it's dangerous to be on
any Ivy League campus if you're Jewish in this country today.
These people are sick and twisted. Let's tie the Trump
arrangement syndrome and Judaism and anti Semitism all together in
a bow here, and let me get your thoughts on that.
So I remember when this horrible attack occurred at the
Pittsburgh Synagogue in twenty eighteen. I live in Pennsylvania. Eleven

(40:52):
people were murdered in that event, and they couldn't wait
the media and the political left to blame it on
Trump and the atmosphere this creating this country of anti Semitism.
I don't recall Trump ever creating an atmosphere anti Semitism.
Let me see a few things. His daughter is a
converted jew, his grandchildren are Jewish, his son in law
is Jewish. He is the first person to actually follow

(41:13):
US federal law which dictated five decades ago that our
embassyb moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. He also, through
his son in law, negotiated historic Abraham Accords, the most
comprehensive peace settlement in the history of the Middle East,
which was completely destroyed by Biden's stupidity in their arrogance.
So we had peace with Morocco, rereading relations between Rockway
that included defense ties with Morocco and Israel. We had

(41:36):
peace with Sudan, unbelievable peace with the Emirates in Dubai,
and the list goes on and on. Because of this,
So I don't get any of this nonsense about just
like he's a racist, about him being anti Semite. It
makes no sense whatsoever, yet they try to tar and
feather him. And now when we have Jews being assaulted
on campuses, a Jew and a Christian murder because they

(41:58):
worked for the Israeli Embassy in DC coming out of
the Jewish Center event, we have this rabid anti Semitism
attack on Jews all over the country, and no one's
talking about the people that are doing it. The leftist
they're the ones. They're the ones tolerating. By the way,
I'm putting my name in to be the president of
Harvard University because Claudine Gay has fewer published academic articles

(42:21):
than I do. Therefore I'm eminently qualified. I think I
should have the job. Unfortunately, I'm not black or lesbian,
so I'm probably not going to get it.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Well, you know, it's interesting. I don't know if he
presumably he's still as president, but it was after her,
there was a Jewish president, well after there was another woman,
i think, and then there was a Jewish president, a
man of Harvard, and it's really surprising that he too
is still you know, dragging his feet to do anything
to address anti Semitism on campus, even a Jewish president.

(42:52):
It's it's sad.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Well, doctor Leeveran. So let me ask you this question,
because I mean I sort of know where the answer
comes from, but now every audience knows where it comes from,
and I like to get your take on it. Of course,
you know, I'm a Christian and I've seen throughout my
life deep ties between Christians and Jews, who share similar
heritage and our faiths come out of the sum same region.
Yet I've seen this in tipathy towards Jews by so

(43:16):
many people, and it frustrates me. No. And of course,
if you know the history of humanity, you know the Pogrims.
It took place in Belarussia, in Poland, in Russia, then
in the Siviet Union, and then of course the Holocaust.
I mean, this is something that's gone on century after
century after century, this hatred of Jews and this attack
on Jews. Oftentimes, I think it's a tributal to envy

(43:37):
because Jews in many communities tend to be high performers
in so many fields because of their focus on family,
faith and accomplishment, and so of course in banking and business,
very successful. But they're not the only class of people
like that. You see the Lebanese are similar sort of
people who succeed in business and banking. But I think
envy has to be part of it. Maybe it's because

(43:58):
Jews are viewed differently easy targets some places, But I
mean Jews run the gamut of appearance. They they're blonde hair,
blue eyed, and they look like folks from you know,
Pakistan sometimes because some of them come from Iran in
places like that. So it's very odd to me, this
hatred of Jews. I really have never really understood it.
To Isaac Christian, I have no hatred of Jews. I mean,
I don't understand that. To me, it must be the other,

(44:22):
the outside and envy is it? Some of that and
much more? I mean, I mean, I don't know. Do
you have the answer to that. I think that it's
a very complex question asked, but there's some obvious answers.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
I think, well, I think I think it. Yes, I
think envy is definitely a part of it, because there
is such a strong emphasis in Jewish families to succeed,
not necessarily and for education, and to succeed and not necessarily,
you know, to succeed only in wealth, but to succeed

(44:54):
like doing things for society. Lots of Jewish social workers,
for example, you know and so so that is so. Yes,
there are a lot of successful Jewish people, and I
think that there is envy of that. I also think
that it doesn't help them that Jews believe that we

(45:16):
are the chosen people, and lots chosen people. I think
that probably other religions, you know, don't necessarily like that classification.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Or discribe my feelings aren't hurt you. Jews can say
that about themselves. How do I problem with that?

Speaker 5 (45:31):
I certainly hope, but still true, you know, with what's
happening with.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Iran, he definitely definitely definitely need some something here, either
in this life or the afterlife, to make up for
all the stuff that's happened. All right, So I've been
very patient, doctor Carroll Lee, been very patient this hour.
I've been waiting for this. You've written some books, one
of which I'm a little curious about. Now you've got
this book, Bad Girls, Why Men Love Them and how
good girls can learn their secrets? Now, why would I

(45:57):
want good girls to learn the secrets? I want to
know about these bad girls? Tell us about these bad girls?

Speaker 5 (46:01):
Doctor Okay, Well, first of all, My first book was
Bad Boys, Why we Love Them, How to live with them,
and when to leave them? And I talk about twelve
different types of bad boys and what makes them that way,
you know, which is their relationship with their mother when
they're growing up. And what makes women be attracted to

(46:22):
bad boys is their dysfunctional relationship with their father growing up,
which makes them feel unlovable, so they feel like they
don't deserve anything better than a bad boy, you know,
a boy that's gonna And by bad I mean heartbreakers.
You know, there's the twelve run the gamut, you know
that the end the lovers are men in jail who

(46:45):
women love, you know, who write letters to and so on.
So then bad girls also twelve different types of bad girls. Now,
what makes a bad girl is they start off for
the most part, as a woman who is attracted to
a bad boy, and then they get their heart broken

(47:06):
either by one bad boy, you know, really strongly, or
by several bad boys. And so the woman either either
gives up. You know, she may say she wants to
get married and all that, but she lets herself you know,
fall apart. She doesn't look as good and she and
she stays home. She doesn't really try to meet guys.

(47:27):
So there's that, or the other side is they become
bad girls, meaning that they go after men for since
they don't believe that they are lovable. They go after
men for other reasons. So like, for example, the typical
bad girl would be a gold digger, so she doesn't
believe that a man is going to love her for

(47:49):
her she's gonna, you know, go off into the sunset.
And so she just decides to manipulate a man to
marry her who is rich. And when he whatever money
he gives her and good goodies he gives her, she
takes that for love, you know, as a substitute. There
is the there are the the a kind of woman,

(48:16):
a ballbuster, a woman who's who's very powerful. She wants
to be in control, so she finds a man who
she can control. And you know, just like with the man,
the man bad boy, the male version of that is
the mister power mad who's very controlling. So so it
really is people. And and when the women have given

(48:40):
up because of their relationship with their father, given up
on feeling lovable, being loved by a man, they you know,
they are they're angry about that and they resort to
these other things as substitutes for love, and they're very manipulative.
And so they can be manipulative because they've stopped wearing

(49:02):
their heart on their sleeve at like they did when
they were you know, started out. And also they feel
comfortable in situations where they are where they're not treated right.
So it's not necessarily the same. They're not looking for
someone exactly the same as their father always. Sometimes it's that.

(49:24):
Sometimes it's the exact opposite of their father. Sometimes it's
something in between. There's some reason. But you know, then
they're the the women who are alcoholics or drug addicts
and they find a man who's going to enable them.
So it's these different combinations. But they're dysfunctional relationships and

(49:46):
that's because she's used to having a dysfunctional relationship with
her father.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Well it's I don't want to say it's fascinating. I
mean it's frightening. You know, God create all these creatures
and we have the ability to reason and think, and
look what we do with our ability to read and think.
We divide ourselves into little groups, and we isolate and
we mistreat others. But it seems to me that so
many have problems we have in society stem from the
lack of a loving, two parent family that's based in
morality and raising their children a loving environment done whether

(50:16):
it's incest or you know, abuse, or alcoholism or drugs
or a host of other things, gambling, all these addictions,
people are always looking for something to fill a gap
in their life. And to me it seems like maybe,
I mean, this sounds very simplistic, doc, but maybe we
can solve a lot of society's ills by having moral families,
two parent families that raise their children loving environment and

(50:38):
a lot of these problems with solve themselves. Is that
too idealistic? Do I sound too leftist with that?

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Absolutely true? In fact, the most common kind of bad
girl these days, well yes, or most common type of
bad boy really is the is the frazzle frog. That's
at the mildest extreme as the opposed to the lethal

(51:04):
lover you know in prison on the other end. But
the frazzled frog is a man who never really got
enough nurturing from his mother, and so his life is
kind of a mess, not in any serious way, but
like he just never has. He's still like a tadpole.

(51:26):
He's never really grown up. He doesn't have his career
in order. His house is kind of messy, you know,
things like that. So he's looking for a woman who
is going to mother him and help him get his
life together. Now, the women who are attracted to that
kind of bad boy is a woman who didn't have
a father when she was growing up. Her father was absent,

(51:47):
either physically absent or emotionally absent. Now this is the growing,
biggest area, biggest hype that has grown over the last
years because so many divorces. So when the father leaves,
you know, and sometimes hasn't marry somebody else, sometimes has

(52:07):
more children with another woman, the girl, the original daughter,
feels abandoned, and so she's looking for a man who
will who is the neediest for her, who she thinks
will never abandon her. And so that's the frazzle frog,
you know. But then what happens is that she helps him,

(52:30):
she gets his life together and all that. And then
when he gets his life together, he hops away.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
He breaks her heart because he's still a frog.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
He's hopping away well because now he can find a
woman who is better, so to speak, better, because now
he has his life together. So he's still a heartbreaker.
And the women who who when you know bad goes,
why why men love them? And how good girls to
learn their secrets. It's not like I'm trying to teach

(52:59):
good to be bad girls necessarily to break men's hearts.
But I talk about things that men like that would
make them more attractive to men, not just physically attractive,
but like.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
Sure more appealing. Yes, so, I mean, we're gonna run
out of time here in a few moments of their doctor.
But you know, even despite that, there are people who
come from broken homes, without to parents, or with parents
who have addiction issues, or who are neglected malnurses, children
who see all the bad examples set in front of them,

(53:33):
Yet somehow they wind up in foster homes, state care things.
Yet somehow they become high performers and achieve so much
in life despite the difficulty of their childhood circumstand including
MOLAS station things like that. How does that happen? Do
certain people just have the ability to lock that stuff
away far enough to pursue life and go through it.

(53:55):
Or I mean, because I see people like this, I
know people like this who've done so well despite a
horrible childhood it's just amazing to me that people can
overcome that and be successful.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
Yes, in part, it's sometimes when these people, these children
find a substitute adult, like if the father is missing,
but then they find a gym teacher or you know,
or a regular teacher who kind of gives them extra
attention to make up for that. Sometimes it's just the character,

(54:25):
the personality that they were born with that and in fact,
for some people, when they have problems in childhood, it
makes them stronger, you know, it makes it gives them
a challenge to get over that, and then when they
do get over it, it makes them even stronger. Yes,
that is a that is a an age old question.

(54:47):
How how do some people, you know, manage to manage
to go the opposite way? You know, there you try
to try to rely on yourself where you're trying to
find other people, or sometimes if you're hurt enough, it

(55:07):
can motivate you to put extra effort in to get
where you want to go.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
It really it really comes down to, I guess, the
question of resilience and the ability of some people just
to overcome adversity. I mean, I read the horrific stories
what happened to in the Second World Wars are the
ethnic Germans who are expelled from the East and women
being raped by hundreds of soldiers, their family being murdered
in front of them, yet surviving that, escaping, surviving getting
to America after the war, and building a new life
and new family with kids. It's it's unbelievable. The resilience

(55:35):
of the human spirit sometimes is really inspiring. In the
face of all odds.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
We all were getting ready to run out of a show.
Here real quick, Carol, do you have a contact information
you'd like to give, web address or something.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
Let me my favorite website. I have several websites, but
my favorite is terrorist therapist dot com.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Terrorist therapist dot com. All right, thank you for being
on with us. Has been awesome conversation. We've really enjoyed it.
Ladies and gentlemen. Please stand by with a quick breaking
me back after the top of the hour.

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your FM dial. You know, guys, tied. I'm glad to
see you could join us for the second hour on.
We just concluded a great conversation with doctor Carol Lieberman.
That was a lot of fun. Regarding the protest, did

(56:53):
you guys catch Donald Trump's response?

Speaker 6 (56:57):
I did not catch his response to it. I've heard
a lot of different stuff from a lot of talking heads,
but I was pretty pretty busy over the weekend. But uh,
I'm sure it was comical and probably on points.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Oh, it was great. It was here here to this,
to this. A huge thank you to all the New
King's protesters yesterday. I was very concerned a king was
trying to take my place, but thanks to your tireless efforts,
I am still your president. Great job, all right, Yeah,
that's a classic Trump response. You got you can't you
can't dislike that for a moment.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
Yeah, I mean we did. I guess it was effective.
We walk up and we still didn't have a king,
So that's a good thing. I'm glad they were out there.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Kings. Uh, these people really take the cake.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Oh they do, they do. So what have we got
going on here in the news lately, Ty, you got
any news?

Speaker 4 (57:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:43):
You you were all wait for the first hour you became. Well,
let me get this right. Commander of the VFW is
that correct?

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Now?

Speaker 6 (57:50):
American Legion Department of Tennessee got elected on Sunday unanimously
and took over. And now I've got a whole state
to run. I've got a new car, a commander mobile
that goes along with the job. It's a few years old,
but hey, gets the job done.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
There you go, all right, American Legion. I'm sorry, I
got that wrong. I knew, I knew it was something that.

Speaker 6 (58:11):
A life I'm a life member of both organizations, but
just happened to be active in the American Legion. It
just seems to be a little bit more American Legion
posts in the area than there are vfws.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Uh huh. So you canna be a very, very busy man.

Speaker 6 (58:23):
Right, And of course that's where I was at the
first hour. We had a National American Legion in the
College Alumni Association board meeting I had attend too. We've
got our national convention come up in August, and we
were planning the big event there and in the next
elections for next year. So that's what we were talking
about there.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Awesome, awesome, So you're gonna be very busy with the
way on the Board of Education, with the American Legion.

Speaker 6 (58:50):
Trying trying to trying to be busy, you know, trying
to help out, trying to lend my talents where they,
you know, it can be better served, versus just sitting
on my hands complaining, you know, try to try to
do something to help out. That's well, that's what I'm
all about. And of course published the book selling it.
I was on Newsmax on Saturday to promote that and
that that really helped out book sells. I'm trying to
just sell a thousand. Everything's going to be donated to

(59:11):
help you in veteran suicide. The Americanly just be the
one program. That's what I'm gonna donut every penny to.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Awesome. Yeah, that's that was my follow up. I was
gonna ask you how that's coming along.

Speaker 6 (59:20):
So yes, it's the news man trying to make something
happen to positive in the world.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
That's the ticket man. Put your money where your mouth is, see,
ladies and gentlemen, that's what we're talking about here at
the common sense conservatives, put your money where your mouth was,
get involved where and when you can there, you go bingo.
So what we got going on, gentlemen, We've had what
we got. Iran is now facing there. They're just dues
here getting attacked by Israel. How's that. I'm not up

(59:48):
on that, any of you guys caught up on that?
What's going on with it?

Speaker 4 (59:52):
We're on the verge of conflict here. President Trump ended
his trip to the G seven and Canada, came back
early and convene the National Security Council late in the
evening to get back here, and then he published some
tweets on his truth social and including one saying that's
it unconditional surrender for Iran. So we're in a situation

(01:00:17):
now where the peacemaker Donald Trump, who hates Warren, has
ended one conflict after another, is on the verge of
potentially taking us into conflict conflict excuse me, with Iran,
and this is something that's long overdue, not a conflict,
but a reckoning for Iran. And frankly, I don't see
any way out of this other than regime change at
this point. I'm pretty confident that the Israelis are going

(01:00:37):
to ensure that there's regime change, whether they take Commane
out or they simply, you know, just destroy everyone around him.
Right now, they're very successful to take everyone around him,
an't they Toad? I mean, people are disappearing left to
right every day.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
It's another absolutely. I heard today some national security correspondent
or commentator, whatever the case may be. They're talking about
some of their bunkers or whatever they're like, and they're
giving them some compliment. They're like, Yeah, their bunkers are
pretty deep and pretty they're in there pretty good. It's like,
it's probably gonna take four of our bunker busses to
get them versus the one.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:01:06):
It's like, yeah, take four of them. They take a
little bit more money, but they're gonna get you, don't worry.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Yeah, it's look, I mean, you know, Trump comes out
and says we have not just the air superiority, but
air dominance, air dominance. Achieving that is quite a significant development.
And that's exactly what's been achieved. Air dominance, total control
over the airspaces Iran and Iran Is, you know, desperately launching missiles,
but most are being intercepted either by these rallies or
the Americans.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
I think I think net Yaho pretty much without saying so,
he's been planning this for a long time. Do you
think Trump was in on the planning before he became
president kind of like, you know, give him the nod, like, yeah,
you go ahead and do this and we'll have your back.
Or do you think that yeah, who was just like
I don't care if you're here or now we're doing this.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
I'm pretty confident that what's going on here is that
the US government was aware of the attack. I don't
know if we were given the date it was gonna launch,
but I think, to be honest, I think that they
were a little bit called off. But we knew that
this was in the works, and just the Israelis launched
it and did it at the right time. They caught
the Iranians. The Ranians thought they could play this game
like the South Africans can do, and you play kissy

(01:02:10):
face up front and pretend that they're negotiating, working with
people while sabotaging, not even undermining everything from the backside,
and the Israelies just caught them completely flat footed. I mean,
what an incredible you know, guys, I remember nineteen eighty
one when Israel attacked Iraq's nuclear facility and destroyed their
ability to develop a nuclear weapon and bought us another
twenty years. You know this, this, this is necessary. This

(01:02:31):
is pretty darn scary. How close Iran was? You know
I was talking to who was I talking to someone earlier?
Was I don't know, it was last night on John B.
Wells and discussion about well, you know, no, it was earlier.
I was talking to someone. They said, well, you know
it's you know, Ted Cruz is saying, you know a
few years ago that they were in it, just about
to get the bomb. And then he said again, he
said again, look, I mean, people shouldn't be burying their

(01:02:53):
head in the sand. Iran has this obsessive fixation on
getting a nuclear weapons so they can use it. They're
not going to just say to it. They're going to
give a suitcase bomb to the Huties or give it
to Hesbelah or Hamas. These are evil people and they've
been enabled by the Democrats.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
I remember when they got in nuclear power, it was
just for energy, and that was the concern. If they
have it just for energy, they can weaponize it. And
according to Nan Yahoo, I believe he was saying there
were sixty something percent right there, and he's basically declared
we were in the twelfth hourar when we attacked, I
meaning we meaning Israel. But he was saying they were
in the twelfth hour, that this was now, the time

(01:03:29):
was now, this has to be done. And he did
say that, he said, we're doing a service for the world.
Is Yes, this is self serving, the Israel's protecting itself,
but in the long run, this is a service for
the world.

Speaker 6 (01:03:40):
Absolutely. And you think about Israel would be that would
be the first target wiped off the map, and then
the rest of the free world would be right after.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Well, in fact, I went live when the attacks began,
it was occurring, and I said very clearly that Israel
has done the world a favor. The world, not Israel,
not the United States, It's the world. I mean, can
you imagine. Look, you know, and people try to play
this game, Well, it's it's a ship of critical America
as the bomb. Yeah, and we're not using it, We're
not threatening people with These people threaten us with death

(01:04:08):
every single day, death to America. I mean, are we
just supposed to ignore that? When do we take them seriously?

Speaker 6 (01:04:14):
The week the two times that the US used it,
it saved millions of lives, millions of lives, and it
shortened a war that would have probably decimated millions more civilians.
So we used it properly, and Truman gave them a warning,
and at the same time, the bomb that we used
far far less.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
That's what we have now. That's where I was going
to go next. That's that's like firing a one five
five artillery around compared to what the capabilities bombs are today,
it's not even the same.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
However, if if we were to, if we wanted to,
we can make you needed to use. We can make
it small enough. We're sluss detrimental if I'm not mistaken.
It's not like we have to make them huge. We
can make smaller impact.

Speaker 6 (01:04:52):
Well, the nukes that we have now that are either
on ships or in silos or you know that could
be carried on our bombers. You know, there are a
certain size as already. You know, to make something smaller
you'd have to go through and manufacture the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Well, I mean, how big are they talk about now
that we have ready available? I mean we've blown half
the world away if we have to use one, or
are we just talking about a small region.

Speaker 6 (01:05:14):
No, you're talking about wiping an entire city off the
place of the planet. Yeah, for forever at this point. Yeah,
if we did something and that that's just that's a
small strike, if you will, that'd be a small strike.
A city is pretty much going.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Yeah, that's what I thought. We It's not like it's
it's so devastating, it's going to destroy the whole world.
It's not going to destroy it. Utilize one, but no
God forbidding. And of course we always as Americans, we
always hope we never ever have to use one. Right,
It's it's just a cautionary measure to have them on hand.

Speaker 6 (01:05:45):
Well yeah, well the idea is the whole mad right,
mutual'sure destruction is kind of like you know, you you
hold your trigger, we'll hold hours, and then we'll keep
this conflict, you know, as I guess in check, as
we possibly can, if you will keep them more conventional
versus going nuclear.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
So Israel had a strike that they took out about
fifty percent of Iran's artillery their missiles, but they have
about one hundred missiles left. I guess, and so Israel
was concerned. You know, they're going to use those strategically.
Now they're gonna be very cautious how they use them.
We tell we know with the Iron Dome, and we
the United States have taken a lot of their missiles
out of the year to begin with. Is there any

(01:06:24):
chance do you think that China, I know, China's already
get involved as far as giving them or supplying them
with manufacturing substances to make new missiles, making new weapons,
But is there a chance that China or Russia or
anybody on that axis may be getting involved in this effort.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
Well, there was a flight from a cargo company that's
based out of Luxembourg that's partially owned by Chinese company
that was en route to Luxembourg and it diverted towards
Iran coming from China and landed in Turkmenistan. They turned
off their transponder when they got close to Dan airspace.
The company Cargolucks I think is the name of it,
claims that they didn't go over Anian airspace and they

(01:07:05):
weren't up to anything unusual. But you don't shut your
transplonder off in an active war zone as a commercial
civil aircraft and put yourself at risk unless you've got
evil intent. So it raises a lot of questions about
what the Chinese are up to, whether the goverment's doing
it or they've got rogue corporate actors. But we don't
know what happened there, but there's denial. So there's a
lot of supposition that the Chinese are supporting the Ranians,

(01:07:26):
and I wouldn't be shocked to see that they're doing something.
But the question is, I mean, what did they possibly
have in that aircraft, you know, some materials and propelling
a couple of missiles. I don't know, but yeah, Iran
is definitely going to run out of missiles at some
point here soon, and that's just going to get pummeled
every single day by the Israeli Air Force, and that
which canal doesn't have to fire missiles from Israel, doesn't

(01:07:48):
have to stand off over Iraq and fire missiles over airspace.
They've got total air dominance. There's nothing coming up at them.
There's virtually no air defense can take them down. So
the only threat to them is running out of fuel
or for the most part, or you know, engine failure,
and God forbid that happens you land in Iran. You
don't want that. But yeah, so it's it's not going
to be pretty for the Ranys going forward, and they
brought this on themselves. The good news is that we've

(01:08:10):
got rational actors like Donald Trump are like, hey, get
out of Tehran. Now. Did you see the traffic jets?
Oh my goodness, Yeah for Miles man geez. People getting
smart and you know, of course the looters who stayed
behind are probably loving things.

Speaker 6 (01:08:23):
Yeah, I imagine. Did it kind of remind you of
the first Iraq War? The Highway to Hell whatever, highway
of death, Highway of death, ye, way death.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Well, the difference there is that those are murders, rapists,
and thieves and these are just mostly into Sevanias trying
to get the heck head of dodge. But yeah, I
get your Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
No, I get you get what you're saying. I'm just
saying the stream of cars and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Yeah, so my understanding. Irana turned off a lot of
their communications for for Internet and things like that to
prevent Iranians from hearing about what's going on and see
also trying to flee because they didn't want people to
be encouraged to flee, they'd rather they stay.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
But they also extreame anything like a like a like
a regime chain. I don'tant people to go to stream
and coordinate anything like that as well. That's that's that's
a big part of that. That's self preservation on their part.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Of the region. So we might propagate things on their
internet to their people and they wouldn't like that.

Speaker 6 (01:09:11):
Well that but also that they couldn't coordinate themselves if
it became organic where they wanted to just uprise and
kill the guy or take over their own country, which
they should. I mean, honestly, people in that country should
uprise and have their say in their own lives. Were
kind of allowed, not some Ayatola or some you know,
other regime that's elected if you will, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Not elected election uh.

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
Fae elections, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Yeah, exactly. So what do you see this as short term?
Then you think this is going to be over relatively
quick or you think this might start to drag out.

Speaker 6 (01:09:43):
It's been going on for centuries. That's what I say
is an extension of what's been going on.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
It's like the liberal left. It never stops. It might
dim a little bit, but it'll always kick back up. Again.
You know, we were questioning last year how long the
trip of administration will it be before we start seen
writing in the streets again. What we've got our answer?

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Right? Well, you know this, it's it's hard to say
what's going to happen here. It depends what Israel's ultimate
goal is here. I think it's to destroy the nuclear program,
and if they reach that stage, they may change the objectives.
It now seems that we're already shifting the objectives in
Washington and in Jerusalem to one of stopping the nuclear capability,
to regime change. It's not been stated by either side,

(01:10:20):
but it seems pretty obvious. You know, when Trump calls
for unconditional surrender and Tel Aviv, and I'm so used
to saying, tell, Jerusalem has hummeled Iran so badly that
they're going to run out of targets here. So if
they continue it, it's going to seem to me like
it'll be about regime change. That's my thoughts. Guys. I
don't know if you saw this, but remember the Macedonian

(01:10:41):
server farms from Hillary Clinton's erea. You know, that's why
she lost the election because of Macedonian server farms at
Russian interference in the twenty sixteen election. Remember that the
five thousand dollars in Facebook ads, which is what about
two days worth of ads that apparently influenced millions of
people vote for Donald Trump, according to Hillary Clinton, who's
in election denial still along with Stacy Abrams in Georgia.
But we now find out because the FBI had the

(01:11:03):
data and they hit it cash Pttel's FBI is uncovered
the fact that the Chinese shipped hundreds of thousands of
fake driver's license to America for Chinese students over here apparently,
and for those who are Chinese nationals living in America
so they could vote in the twenty twenty election. They
made over nineteen thousand seizures at one postal center in

(01:11:23):
Chicago alone. Yeah, the election interference apparently was real, but
it came from Joe Biden's buddies in Beijing so that
he could win. Interesting. You know this was covered up
during the Bibe regime obviously, and all this effort, demonic
effort to say bad things about Trump and then there
was nothing substantiated. Well, court, that's to stamp it, because
the FBI investigated and then covered up the evidence. Did

(01:11:45):
you guys hear about this.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Yeah, I didn't quite catch this whole story, man, but
it goes to show you where there's smoke, there's fire.
You know, people aren't stupid. We knew what we were
seeing in twenty twenty. We knew exactly what we were seeing,
and we were calling out. We didn't know the details,
but we were calling it out. And it's great to
hear that somebody like Cash Betel's come forward with transparent
and that's not seeing about the Trump administration. They're more
transparent than any of the presidential administration. And he's coming

(01:12:10):
forth with the information and the data and saying, yeah,
you guys are right, and here's the proof.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
Yeah, I mean, so they've they've released it. They've released it.
I mean, the FBI covered this up. Fake driver's license, unbelievable, unbelievable.
Trump has long claimed that the election was rigged, and
here's the FBI providing the evidence. In November of twenty twenty,
Biden won the closest contest race by taking Arizona, Georgia
by ten and twelve thousand votes and defeated Trump by
twenty thousand votes. And they've uncovered hundreds of thousands of

(01:12:38):
fake driver's license for mail and balloting. Yeah, okay, so
there you go, there you go. I'm not sure how
it applies, but you know, to deny that it happened,
which is what they've been doing forever. It's just nonsense,
and now we're exposing their lives.

Speaker 6 (01:12:50):
Right was saying voter fraud doesn't happen. It's like saying
there's nobody's feed on the interstate right now. Nobody speeds
on the interstate at all. That's the same thing, right,
Nobody would believe if I said that it has.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
So I got a question for both of you, guys,
do you have any empathy for the meat packing industry,
the construction industry, and all of these other industries that
have been relying on illegal aliens to conduct their business.
Some of these places have seventy five percent illegals, seventy
five percent illegals working for them, and they're moaning to

(01:13:22):
the Trump administration it's not very going to go out
of business. Guys. I have no empathy. They should be
charged with criminal act.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
None. And I'll tell you why. They've had enough fore
warning this what was going to come. They knew this
was going to come. They were taking advantage of these
people and using these people basically like slaves. You know,
they were underpaying them, what mistreating them. I've heard stories
about guys that left restaurants, Mexican people out here illegally,
found walking muttering to themselves so angry because they were mistreated.
So you treated so poorly where they work. And this

(01:13:53):
is what happens to illegal aliens. And this is what
I've complained about time and time again. When they're out
there working on farms and stuff, and South Florida and
Hurricane Andrews blowing through and they're here illegally. They're unaccounted for,
which means they can be easily abandoned than they were.
They have found illegal bodies and are wrapped up in
the trees and stuff, you know, when the tide receeated
and things like that, where they were abandoned out there.

(01:14:15):
That's not right, that's inhumane, that's disgusting. That's their world stuff.
But yet our leftists want to keep this going, they
want to keep these people subject to abuses.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Well, I experienced this doing a graduate program oh twenty
years ago with Troy University, and we all commented about
illegal immigration in one of our projects in our groups,
and people, these leftists at the stupidity to actually say, well,
we need illegle immigrants because Americans won't pick raspberries and
we need them so we can get raspberries, and like serious,

(01:14:46):
so you believe that it's legitimate to have the soft
bigotry of your worldview so that you can get cheap
raspberries or you can get a gardener. Because they're driving
down labor rates, I'd rather pay five seventy five for
a pint of raspberry bries and eat them less often
if that's the true cost of the labor by hiring
Americans legally and paying them a living wage. Then to

(01:15:07):
pay a dollar seventy five for pint of raspberries and
have my country invaded by people who knock out twenty
seven babies and claim status and then draw benefits, I'd
much rather pay more for raspberries.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
But even so, we have work vices for people to
migrate here just to work.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
That's correct, H two visus, that's what they're yea.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
So their claims are erroneous and fake.

Speaker 6 (01:15:29):
Right, because if you want to talk about driving down
prices of raspberry strawberry, whatever the case may be, Americans
are going to find a way to get those prices down,
for sure, because I mean, we're ingenuous whenever it comes to,
you know, the markets, whether it comes to creating a
better product, whatever the case may be, We're going to
find a way. And you know, cheap labor was the

(01:15:49):
answer because people were greedy, like the colonel said. But
reality is, we're going to find a way to get
those raspberries cheaper and pick them a heck of a
lot easier, that's for sure, find a.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Way and that's an upcoming right autonomy and robotics. But
you know it's funny, are you guys enjoying this inflationary
rate the promised us? Because you know those Chinese vessels
were coming back empty and now your cost of goods
that the stores are gonna go up? Have they gone up?
And why is it that traffic is up by fifteen
percent from this time last year? Why is there more

(01:16:18):
traffic on America's roads today? Is the economy actually growing
and not shrinking? Is we're not seeing inflation?

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
The economy is doing fine despite all the lies. In fact,
blue collar workers have experienced the largest gain in the
first five months of the current administration of any administration
since Nixon in the nineteen seventies with a one point
seven percent actual after inflation gain among wages in the
first five months, which doesn't sound like a lot, but

(01:16:49):
every previous president has had a loss except for Jimmy
Carter where it was flat, But every president since Mixon
has had a loss in real income for blue collar
workers until this term with Trump. So there you go.
I'm sorry. Trump also had his last time too, but
this is the biggest one. So yeah, No, it's the
economy is doing fine. The tariffs that they're all freaking

(01:17:09):
out over is not the issue they're making out to be.
Not that it's not a problem. It's an issue, but
it's something that will be sorted out. So anyway, of.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Course, water seats stone level, it'll balance out, and things
will work themselves. They always they always do percent.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
So yeah, but the China thing is, you know, are
we vindicated now? Are we vindicated? You know? This? Uh?
This nonsense? You know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Oh no, let's start looking at those machines again. Come on, cas,
bring it on, Let's get it all out there. Let's
get the machines again. Because there were some issues about
that as I recall the ninja cybersecurity reports and all
this other stuff or was it cyber ninja reports and
all these other things that were going on that people
just kind of glolstrom are don't want to pay the
attention to.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
So has it been a weaker I mean, this, this
is shooting took place since we met last week, didn't it?
This Minnesota thing? Do you guys follow that? That's pretty crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Oh no, it happened just after our last show, I think, right.

Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
Yeah, yeah, the the husband and the wife were shot.
Yeahable she was.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
She was a Democrat state house member and her husband
were both murdered because the way she voted against the left.
She voted with the right. And also a US senator
and his wife'n.

Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Thank you for the correction, I said, US Minnesota senator
and his wife were also critically injured by the same gentleman.
So he's facing second degree murder charges on two accounts
and second degree assault. And I think they said the
reason why it is a first degree is because for
it to be first degree in Minnesota, you need a
grand jury indictment.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
Yep, yeah, no, it's pretty crazy though. I mean, this
whole thing, this guy. And what a what a crazy
set of circumstances there hunting this guy downy and a
lot of people looking for that old Timmy Waltz out there,
you know, trying to look presidential.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Did I not see that this guy used to work
on his staff at one time?

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
He was appointed by him twice to different positions. I
don't know he's on his staff so to speak.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
So well, he was connected, that's the whole meaning, as
he was connected to Tim Walls.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
But we have to be careful with that. You remember,
of course, John Wayne Gacy, the serial killer, was in
a photograph. He was an alderman with Roslind Carter Carter
nineteen seventy six legs. She didn't know who he was.
He came up, took him picture. I mean, look, I
was just in South African some grifter who was trying
to get my broadcast so he could, you know, talk

(01:19:41):
about his program. And I quickly realized this guy was
scheming people. He was telling people that if you pay
a certain amount to him to get you in a list,
to get you the first refugees com America, there's there's
no cost to it. No one has any inside of race.
So I refused to bring him on. He came one
of my meat greets in which hundreds of people came
to and he came up, like you know, dozens of
people and asked for a selfie. I didn't recognize and
take a picture, so he took my photograph, and then

(01:20:03):
he tried to sell as if I was endorsing him
to his suckers. And that's actually what it made all
fall apart, because there realize, wait a second, Colonel White's
been saying you don't pay anything. Now that isn't right.
So then he made a video because he's angry at
me because his scam didn't work using my photograph, and
he's like, well, I went to Colonel White's meet and
greets and I wasn't really impressed. There's not really much there. Okay,

(01:20:26):
all right, thank you buddy. But no, my point is
that I don't know that idiot from Adam. I meant
nothing to do with him and whatever he's done, just
because he appears in a photograph and he does me anything.
The same thing. You know, governors in presidents appoint hundreds
of people in thousands, so I want to be careful about,
you know, blaming little timmy Waltz for this clown, because
they probably don't even know who each other is. So

(01:20:47):
but what I can say is that the rush to
claim it was a right wing conservative that was immediate,
which they always try to do. It's just obnoxious because
it turns out that's not who the guy is. And
then you know, it flipped the other way. Well, now
he's he's a Waltz guy. And I just stayed out
of that because it doesn't mean anything. Now, if he
was on Walt's staff at the governor's mansion, well maybe

(01:21:07):
there's a little responsibility there, but just some guy pointed
to some permission. No, no, he was on some commission
and got appointed. So but definitely the guy's pretty bold.
I mean, walk, you know, I don't know where he
got the police cruiser from and drives up with a
you know, a rubber mask on his face and just
murders people. Shot. The people that survived eight nine times
and they're still alive, good lord. Yeah. And then the

(01:21:29):
ones who were killed. I have no idea how many
times they were shot. But it's a pretty frightening thing.
And this is the dangerous political environment that's been fostered
by the political left. In this country for the past
fifteen years, you know, with their bushed arrangement syndrome, their
anti Iraq, anti war stuff, their hatred of America, their
demonic obsession with letting people come in this country, and
all the evil they do their Summer of love in

(01:21:51):
twenty twenty, when they attack people openly embrazening in the streets,
this is what you get, you know, shooting members of
the Republican call is in Congress at their their their
practice session for playing baseball. You know, it's just this
is who these people are, some of them. But their
behavior fosters this climate in this environment, and that's what

(01:22:11):
we're seeing. It's it's pretty scary, guys, but you know,
you never know. Earlier today, I had somebody ring my
doorbell when I was in the middle of broadcast, and then
then beat on my door. You know, when you beat
on the door, something must be urgent, so of course
you right out and see what's going on. And it
was just these long care specialists trying to sell me
their crap.

Speaker 6 (01:22:33):
I had something similar today or yesterday, I had I
was about to jump the shower. Here this ding ding
ding ding ding, like somebody trying to sell you know,
fumigation or whatever. And I'm like, I'm good. You know,
you try to come back on the property, I said,
I said, I'm good. I don't want anything, not buy anything,
thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
But you have to question. You have to wonder about
this too. I mean, this isn't a retirement community. It's
a working neighborhood of you know, middle age and you know,
and young adults. And why are you coming knocking people's
doors at two o'clock in the afternoon. You got to
come here about five thirty to seven thirty eight o'clock
at night to catch the heads of household the people
are going to make these decisions. Or is your goal

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to suck her in the spouse sits at home, you know,
who's not a few minutes I talked, And maybe that's intentional.
I hadn't thought about that, right, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
Yeah. You get to the people that don't know and
it's like, oh, I do something with this. Oh this
looks really bad. I get on it right now. Let
us get this and then they start some job. Next thing,
you know, you're on the hook for a few thousand bucks.
Your stuff's destroyed. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
I have had my wife tell me she says, if
the car's got to go to the shop, you're taking
it because you know what to understand automobiles. I don't
know anything, and they'll try to take advantage of her
because of her lack of knowledge and from understanding, this
does happen to women, so I get that point. You know,
they come to your house, knock on the door and
try to get the wife of the house that doesn't
understand what the house may need as far as work

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goes or something, and rope her in and she signs
a commitment before he's even home.

Speaker 6 (01:24:00):
Yeah, there's things happen on a regular basis, especially back
in the day, be before the digital age, where you
had a lot of door to door salesmen and stuff
like that. People would fall for things like that. You know,
oh did I'm sure your husband knows about all this.
You know, why haven't you gotten this yet? You need
to get it, you know, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Yeah, this is going to save you a lot of work, man,
and in the end, it's going to pay for it.
So you know, it's it's a vacuum team.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
Yeah, I don't know. It kind of reminds me of
Lucy and the Vita Vita Vegimix. You know, I love
Lucy the Vita Vita vege Max. Ever see that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
I don't remember the exact episode, but oh that was funny.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
I still remember that as a kid.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
Oh she was manufacturing.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it just occurred, the jars and stuff
and she couldn't keep up with the assembly line and
it all place. Anyway, just reminds me of that. But yeah, no,
it's uh anyway, it's guys. So you know, I think
I was asking Todd wasn't here in the first hour,
but I asked that the doc about the Santa Clair University,

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did you know about that story? John, had you heard
about that where that student out there was being forced
to attend college classes in which they were showing bondage
films and it was a requirement otherwise they couldn't pass
the class. Without the class, they can't they can't graduate
and get their certification in that field. And then they
asked them, well, I asked they forced them to do
a sexual autobiography and talk about the most embarrassing sexual

(01:25:24):
moments and their most intimate things. I mean, it sounds
like some perverts just trying to scam on undergrads or
grad students.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
They're writing a book of his own, using them in
their vulnerable position to gather information.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
Pretty sick, Pretty sick.

Speaker 7 (01:25:39):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
It's disturbing that people would stoop to those levels. You
never know what people are up to anymore, especially today.
That's where people are off the rockers today.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
Yeah, no doubt that. So what are your thoughts there?
We had, doctor, We ran on there that first that
first hour, John, I mean, what did you take away
from that? I save the bad girls question till the end.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Yeah, I saw you got right on that, you know.
And yeah, no, I thought she was pretty good forthcoming.
I was a little more. I was interested. We didn't
get we ran out of time. I'd like to gotten
to find out in her proposal for this how she
expects it to be administrated. I don't know many too
many people on the left is going to go, oh, you know,
I think I'm suffering Trump arrangement syndrome. So maybe I
should go get a shrink, you know. But will it

(01:26:22):
be a case when the burning electric vehicles or something,
uh and protest elon Musk and the court order. I'm
wondering if that's where that would go.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
Well. I like how she treats it as an actual
medical condition and not just a nickname that we give
to people. Left.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
Well, she's defining it, that's what she's talking about. With
the dsm as. They will lay it out there, they'll
define it and actually substantiate it there, and it'll work
as a community of a psychiatrist.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
And right with a common common terminology. And I think
it's great because it can apply to a lot of things.
I just it'll just be called Trump, right. It's like
you're like osburger Is is named after that guy, you know,
and all these diseases, Yeah, exactly, speaking of diseases, not
really disease, but mental deficiency going on here. You know,
some good news here. The Supreme Court is upheld Tennessee's

(01:27:12):
ban on gender transition care for minors. This broke this afternoon.
The Court's decision allows a law in Tennessee and has
implications for twenty others twenty three other states and a
ban similar treatment. So Tennessee can ban gender transition treatments
for minors. They called it divide a Supreme Court, but
it wasn't divided. It's a landmark decision six to three.
That's not divided. That's two thirds. Yeah, that's not divided.

(01:27:32):
This is typical leftist since the Washington Compost reporting this.
But but Tennessee now will ban this care for those
under the age of majority todd you live in Tennessee,
what are your thoughts on this one?

Speaker 6 (01:27:45):
It is past due time, absolutely, and it makes sense.
Hopefully the other states will be able to follow suit
and ban the same exact thing, you know, be able
to apply it to their own state. I mean, nobody
should be taking advantage of some minor for credit allowed
to those brain still developing, you know where you filled
their head for years full of nonsense, and all of
a sudden then you're going to tell them, oh, by

(01:28:05):
the way, you can have all this the care, and
it'll affirm everything that we've been telling you that you are.
And next thing, you know what, the time you realize that, shoot,
you've cut off something that you really really would like
and you really would love to have back, it's too
late at that point.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
The thing about it is is I'm a big proponent
on I believe in parental rights, and we get as conservative,
we get stuck here at a little bit of slippery slope,
right because you're saying that the parent here is and
keeople making a decision for their child. But at the
same time this comes to them to a circumstance where
you're stepping too everywhere. It's for the welfare of the
child because they're not old enough to make the decision

(01:28:43):
on their own, and somebody's parents really don't have the
faculties to make these decisions. How do you decide that
a child is a boy or a girl when they're
only eight years old. They don't know that. You don't
know that women at their boy women. Some children want
to play dress up because they saw mom dressing up,
you know what I mean. It doesn't mean that they're transgender.
It just means that now you know what, the day

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you go back to Roosevelt's day, Franklin, not Theodore, or
even in Theodore's day, they used to dress up five
year old boys like girls. It was a common practice.
It doesn't It doesn't mean that they were going to
grow up to be girls, or want to be girls,
or act like girls. They didn't even have any thoughts
like that.

Speaker 6 (01:29:20):
Yeah, I can't argue with that point. It's not that
necessarily they dressed them up like girls. It was just
they had unisex the outfits. They were easy to put on,
and it looked like a girl's dress. I think that's
kind of more of what they were wearing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
I don't know. They looked kind of girlish to me.
But it wasn't an uncommon practice back in the day.
I think I had a lot to do with money
wasn't utilized the way. Yeah, we have a great deal
of flexibility to day. Yeah, back then it's like, well,
we get dressed is a lot easier than we do
pants and slacks and stuff, and it's easier, right, And

(01:29:54):
I really think it wasn't. You know, these were five
year old boys. They didn't have an identity this way.
They didn't have an idea of I'm a girl or
I'm a boy. They were just with mom.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
Yeah. Yeah, No, it's the world. It's just gone absolutely crazy,
and it's getting crazier by the minute. I mean, look
where we're at right now, folks. We've got a war
in Ukraine, We've got a war in Casa, We've got
a war in Yemen, we've got a war eleven It,
we've got a war in Iran now, and the Democrats
are complaining about kicking criminal alienvaders out of the country.

(01:30:24):
That's their biggest worry. Well, they like war, Yeah, that's true.
They seem to love war. They claim they don't love war,
but boy do they ever love it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
They they are the ones that can't contain themselves. Are
the ones burning down cities, setting dumpsters on fire and
run them into buildings. There are crowds of people and
carrying firearms. Are claiming they got to take fire away
away from people in protexta society. But they were around
firearms threatening people in the streets.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:30:46):
Well, whatever their person is murdering. You know, people who
don't vote a certain way, they're okay with it. They're
kind of mom and somehow Trump's to blame. It's well,
Trump is the reason that you know, this person was murdered.
I mean you hear some of these politicians actually claiming
that ledging then, so one way or another, Trumps to
blame Republicans or blame Republican rhetoric. That's why this happened. No,
this guy was a scumbag piece of crap. The person

(01:31:09):
voted appropriately and you couldn't let that stand and actually
had to murder the people. That's pathetic, but Republicans blame that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
No, but they'll try to blame them. Yeah, they'll try
to blame them. That's what they do. That's what they're
experts at.

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
The old fashioned spin. Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
Yeah, So Todd, you are now the commander of your
leeching post. Is that what understood? Other?

Speaker 6 (01:31:32):
Oh, department to the whole state?

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
Are you serious? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:31:36):
The whole state?

Speaker 4 (01:31:36):
Congratulations, I missed the whole state part. Wow?

Speaker 6 (01:31:39):
Yeah, yes, sir, the whole state.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
How did that go? Because you know, I just went
to the state convention here in Pennsylvania for the VFW,
and I went through the whole process of being being elected. Thankfully,
many of the posts only one candidate stood. Because what
happens is they go through all the districts, thirty forty districts,
they pass in review. Man, it's then I can only

(01:32:01):
sing the army song so many times, you know, because
what they do is that whatever service you know, and
they play that service songs, you know, first to fight
for their right to build the nation's mind, and the
army goes rolling along.

Speaker 6 (01:32:13):
Yeah, it was pretty good. It was unanimous. When I
had previously servi as senior vice to the number two
in the state now we've got the ball rolling. You know,
we're moving in a different direction because a lot of
times we had a lot of the not making fun
of anything. We had a lot of the older guys
that would you know, become state command or department commander
or whatever, and they're just in there feeling a slot
for about a year or so, and it was really

(01:32:34):
not a lot they were doing. And now we're moving
in a direction where we need to start doing things
to recruit new members and at the same time get
these programs in our communities because you know, think about
people grew up many years ago with the American Legion
in their backyard that did so much for their communities, VFW,
et cetera. We don't see that as much anymore. Civic
organizations the same thing. They're having problems getting people. Hopefully

(01:32:57):
this will be able to swaye folks to join and
maybe point out of society in a better direction. I
hope that's the case.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
Well, you know, it goes back to the point that
I don't know if we've discussed it here. I think
we've discussed it privately, but I know I've discussed with
peop all the time. Is that society's broken in so
many ways. America is big a nation of volunteers. Volunteerism
was such an important part of our society. People volunteer
for everything, and that was what helped us do so

(01:33:25):
many things, accomplished so much, whether it was volunteer for
the Scouts or the Lions, or the Kawanas or the
legion of the VFW. That seems to have become frayed
about the time that Obama became president. I'm not blaming Obama.
That seems to be the time that it began praying
and then it was just completely broken by COVID and
has it recovered getting people volunteer. I have to tell

(01:33:46):
you that, you know, for the Memorial Day Parade, after
the Preaye, we have a ceremony in which we honor,
you know, the fallen at our local cemetery. And as
a commander, I had to introduce and do the ceremony,
and we had a guest speaker and I kind of
pooched the ceremony in a couple of respects, which most
people don't know because they don't know that the sequence.
But it was because it was because I didn't have anybody,

(01:34:07):
I had to grab what guys I had and Okay,
now you're doing this, you're doing that. You put this
flower up there, you do that, and it got all
discombobulated and it was literally at the last minute, I
had to walk into the crowd of people that at
a local who are not veterans, who are not soldiers,
never touched the fire, and said, would you mind being
part of our honor card and fire the rifle. The
guy looked at me like crazy. I'm like, no, no, I know,
I know you'll do it. Well. So took him over
and got a quick class on how to chamber around ninety,

(01:34:29):
you know, and that sort of thing. I was. Look,
I mean, getting people to do things is like it's
worth pulling teeth has to be easier than this, it really,
you know, and it's it's it's so frustrating because you
get all these people that want to complain about things
in communities, well what about this? What about that? But
then when you ask them to contribute to ah, no, no, no,
I gotta watch I gotta watch the Jersey Shore. Sorry,

(01:34:50):
I any time myself.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
Man, I've seen that we live in a day and
age where people are wrapped up on the internet. Now
and this is how they communicate, This is how they
social and what you were referring to. Earlier people were
volunteers for everything. They got involved. They got in the churches,
they got involved with the American Legion with VFW, you
got involved with the Elks lodge or the Masons, and
but they got involved in some way or another and

(01:35:14):
their contributors to society. And that was part of the
way of socializing, the Roadary Club, things like that. Nowadays people,
you know, it's right here in front of you, it's
a screen. Hey, how you doing. You waved each other
on a screen and all that socialization and it's really
just not the same anymore, right, I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:35:33):
We live in a day of outrage culture, and of course,
you know, the people who actually do things, you know,
in person, show up and actually try to get stuff done.
You have several people that want to show up and
just complain about it. And it's like, meanwhile, before I
showed up, it was actually doing anything. Could we got
cleaning a ditch out? You know, I show up start
cleaning a ditch five people show up to complain about it.
And if I hadn't shown up the dish, we had

(01:35:53):
never gotten cleaned out, though, and as we have outrage culture,
people want to complain about everything you do, how you're
doing it, but won't get their hands douned themselves. And
that's what we got to fix.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
Wait a minute, One of those five guys had to
be your director, right, they showed up just to tell
you how to do the ditch.

Speaker 6 (01:36:06):
You know, you drive by any construction site, you know
how how many people are standing on shovels. You know
those are your supervisors, right.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
They're all supervisors?

Speaker 6 (01:36:14):
Yeah, one guy digging.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
I've worked on a few construction sites. I didn't see
a whole lot of standing around. Maybe in those dealt sites,
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:36:22):
Yes, mostly it is constructions that you catch them like, hey,
those are supervisors. They're all standing on a shovel or
on their phone.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
These days, right, pull on their phone.

Speaker 6 (01:36:32):
Yeah, sitting around scrolling. You see them, You see them
like structs I scrolling. This shouldn't be digging. Shouldn't we
be doing something grating whatever, Standing.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Out the way, waiting waiting for the pipe layer coming
and tell them where the pipe is, where they can
dig around it and stuff. So until he arrives, man
or hands are tied Uh, well, if we are get
paid by the hour.

Speaker 6 (01:36:50):
They should have already marked that off before you even
roll any construction equipment on site, right, shouldn't have been.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
Marked should have been I mean them little blue flags
and red flags and yellow flags on the side road
actually mean something.

Speaker 6 (01:37:00):
Don't pick they do pick them up. Yeah, and the
little the little lines, and of course the different markings
and stuff means something. I couldn't pick it out. It
looks like cling on to me. But you know people
that know understand.

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
Yeah they do. They have different colors of painting stuffs
and stuff in the direction of the of the pipe
and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (01:37:16):
Yeah, we look a little little little thing that I've
watched somebody mark those and it's like, what are you doing.
It's like it looks like you're just making weird weird
you know x's and o's or whatever. And it's like, no,
this means this. This means that. It's an actual language.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
And it's like, yeah, yeah, they know what they're doing.
My thing about it is, why are they laying all
the pipe underneath the asphalt?

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
You do you guys, just lay fresh asphalt. You're gonna
go dig up the asphalt to get to the pipe,
and then you're not gonna put dasphalt down to match
up what was already there. So when we drive over,
we all get our cars beat the crap out of
this is.

Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
What we call. One hand doesn't know what the other
hand is doing. So people playing one project, they have
another project. They don't use common sense to apply to brand. Recently,
relaid road gets torn up to put gable in and
then the road is messed up for years until it's
at your resurface.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
Yeah it stinks. I've done it, man. I've worked jobs
where we just laid fresh asphalt. A couple of weeks later,
I'm back there doing another job for something else, and
I'm looking at this read they just carved a whole,
you know, big long line out of it. I'm like,
we just laid that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
It's expensive too, by the way, it's not cheap to
lay asphalt.

Speaker 6 (01:38:19):
Yeah, but the good thing about asphalt it's recyclable. You
get for most part you can recycles.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
We got we got mountains of what they call a rap.
It is said, actually, if you get rap, if you
get if it's been if it's been crushed, real fine,
it works great. You can lay it down in place
of say three quarters stone or three eight stone whatever
you might be using for for your driver park area
or whatever. You lay that wrap down and pack it.
That stuff is almost like having fresh laid asphalt. It'll

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look good too.

Speaker 7 (01:38:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:38:48):
I I was in the Irline Islands, which is part
of Finland. It's on the west coast, off west coast
of Finland. It was settled by Swedes. It's still ninety
percent Swedish speaking, even though it's part of Finland. And
it's red granite that was underground and that was raised up,
you know, about eight thousand years ago and then inhabited
by people's anyway, the roads are all made out of

(01:39:10):
red granite, so you're driving down the road looks like
you're one of those tennis courts you know that are
red tennis courts. It's pretty wild, very durable, very it's
crushed red granite and it's just the roads are all red.
So it's pretty fascinatings. It's it's a lot more appealing
in nature than drive around on the black roads you're
so accustomed to. But it was a really unique experience.
I really enjoyed it. Uh, fascinating stuff to drive on
those red grant.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
How do they do? You know how they manufactured them?
You're talking about crushed stone, right, Yeah, they they missed
it with some sort of asphalt.

Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
Obviously some ass was into it to bind it. Yeah,
it's not just you know, otherwise you just be gravel
lad down the road. But yeah, but I mean it
still comes out looking red. I mean it's pretty. It's
pretty wild.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
They used to bind it. That's that's sounds interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
I don't know oatmeal. Come on, man, don't ask those
technical questions like this. How do I know? Just know
it works and it's it's up and it's it's in Scannavias.
You know. Obviously it survives the cold weather because it
survives winters up there. But a very fascinating place I
went to there was there in September. They have something
called screwed Afest Screwedterfest, that's their fall festival. And they've

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got these apple orchards. It's way up in the north
and amazing apples and anyway, so it's like a farmer's fest.
And I was driving around from little town, little town,
and people like, because in my English, like, oh, you're
from America, what are you doing here, And I was like, oh,
I came for Scutifests. They're like, what, you came all
the way here for our farm festival. Well, yeah, it's famous,

(01:40:31):
we've heard all about it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
Not yeah, like Octoberfest, I take it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:35):
No, it's not like Octoberfest. No, it's kind of like,
let's say it's fall in New England and the leaves
are changing, and that's kind of what it was September
a little bit earlier. They change and you go out
and you drive to local orchards or dairies and people
got cheeses there and exhibition and you know, some people
have their old timmy cars and tractors out and kids,
you know, wander around and have popcorn and balloons like

(01:40:58):
a county fair, but at each farm sort of thing,
and occasionally in the center of a little town. It
was kind of cool. I did that in twenty gosh
one was at twenty twelve, I think it was. It
was amazing. I had a good time. I had no
idea that Screwedifest was going on. I just wanted to
go to the Erline Islands because I'd never been there
and it was well worth the trip. That's when I
owned I was definitely a bonus and there was there
was kind of fun telling the people from the islands

(01:41:20):
that I was there for the festival.

Speaker 6 (01:41:21):
Because they got a kick out of it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
It was pretty amazing. But yeah, and it was an
interesting trip. That's one where I had flown from Germany
up through Belgium and into Stockholm. Stayed on a like
a bed breakfast overnight sort of thing, which was a
famous shop I owned, owned by one of the famous
heiresses back in the nineteen twenties American eras now owned
by folks in Sweden owned by the Swedish government for

(01:41:43):
a while anyway, But so stayed there overnight and then
got on a cruise ship with my rental car and
went through the channels there over to the Erline Islands,
cross and across the what is that the anyway, it's
it's not the Baltic, but it's the northern part of
the Baltic there the Golf of Bothy, I think it is. Anyway,
it went over there and then got off the next day,
and it's pretty cool. But when I was on the

(01:42:05):
ship there, I gotten an email because they had WiFi
was early days of Wi Fi and ships, and because
they were still getting off the towers in the channels
there and it said that my genealogically, my my DNA
test results came in. I've been waiting for them from
ancestor dot com and like, okay, here it is, open
it up. You're an alien. No, I was waiting to
see what is going to tell me here from Alpha's injury.

(01:42:27):
I know now it was confirmed with my DNA research
or my genealogy research. I had been saying all those years.
It was pretty cool and so that was one of
the highlights of the trip. Had nothing to do with
the trip, just really exciting news when it came in there.
So yeah, I never forget that fantastic trip. I'd like
to go back sometime, but that's that's a bit of
a hike from here. It have to be in conjunction
with some of the trip. It gets me to Europe

(01:42:48):
and then I go up there sort of thing. But
a beautiful location and of course there's there's hundreds of islands,
and so the main mode of transport, of course, is
a ferry between islands. There's some bridges for the close ones,
but many of them have ferries between them. So it's
pretty cool. I really really enjoyed it. Fascinating place. It's
a really well kept secret. Most people don't know about it.
It's one of those places not full of foreign you know,
illegal immigants because they don't know about it. Plus it's too.

Speaker 6 (01:43:09):
Cool, right, Yeah, but supposed you could just walk up,
walk across the you know, one of those fuels or anything.

Speaker 4 (01:43:16):
Yeah, but you'd be surprised. People find a way to
go in the most unusual places, matter how hard they
are to reach. So anyway, but it was a fascinating
experience and I really enjoyed it. But just that was gosh,
Like I said, that was some time ago. But here
we are now on the verge of war.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
War what's going on with Ukraine and Russia. I mean
we were here and all about it ran and we
don't hear Ukraine.

Speaker 6 (01:43:39):
I mean we've moved on from that one.

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
Yeah, I mean it's war just like, oh darn it,
I totally just took.

Speaker 4 (01:43:48):
Our No, that's that's that's so Joe Biden. Who cares
about that Ukraine? You know, we don't care. We're not
giving them missiles or tanks or things anymore. So they're
just you know, they just have to hang on in there,
all right. Now, Look, it's it's the forgotten conflict, Gaz.
It will soon become a forgotten conflict. It's around thing
is going to overshadow everything that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
Only becomes forgotten until they attack again.

Speaker 4 (01:44:12):
Well, I don't think they have a capability to do
that at this stage. And the Israeli's got pretty much
in a hand.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
I'll give them twenty years. They they'll be back. They
seem to like it. I don't know what it is
about them, they just seem to like it. Like I said,
you know, maybe it's not religion, it's more of a cult.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
Hmm. That's a fair point. But that's not going to
go over well in certain quarters.

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
To Well, I was going to say, there are there
are people out there that are you know, Muslims who
believe in peace. I understand that. So I'm not I'm
not trying to you know, be too insulting and attack
everybody for the religious beliefs. I'm just saying, when you
see somebody from an Islamic state that you know, acting
you know, under jihad and stuff, that's not to me, John,

(01:44:52):
those individuals are not acting under a religious belief I don't.
I don't think you would classify that as religion in
that regard.

Speaker 4 (01:44:57):
I have a serious question for you, John. So when
you say you're trying to be not too insulting, see
just a little bit insulting.

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
Well, I've kind of thought maybe, you know, after I
said that to her, I'm like, going, you know, there
might might be people out here in Nashville, New Hampshire,
or even Lowell, Massachusetts or somewhere that go, hey, wait,
I take exception to that. But you know, I got
a point and I'm gonna stand by that. But you know,
I understand that people also have their own beliefs and stuff.
And it's like Baptist, No, I don't like your religion

(01:45:24):
over here in this church. I'm gonna quit my own
Baptist church over there, and we're going to change some
things around a little bit. I'm sure there's some Muslims
that are like, hey, no, listen, we're honest, we're not
into that. We've gotten away from that, we walked away
from it. We just want to be peaceful.

Speaker 6 (01:45:36):
And there are many millions of them that are that way,
for sure, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
Yeah, And there's been a lot of good people men
that fought over there in Afghanistan and Iraq, and they
went back to fight some more because they've they've learned
the culture, they've met a lot of people over there,
and they've really fell in love with the people and
an understanding of those people. So I understand not everybody thinks.

Speaker 6 (01:45:54):
That way, oh for sure, for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
Well, no, it's a small minority people behave in that fashion.
It's unfortunately, there are people out there in that way,
and you know, it's it's it's across faiths and across
across societies, unfortunately. But the problem is.

Speaker 6 (01:46:09):
That it's the peaceful, non non I'll say non crazy.
Is that that get? You know, the peaceful and non
crazy don't get any any press. You know, you don't
hear from them. They're just doing their jobs, kind of
like your Republicans. We're going to work every day where
we're trying to do stuff. We're not out protesting. So
you don't hear about Republicans, but you hear about the
Democrats out protesting because they're the ones out making news. Basically,

(01:46:29):
nine nine to fivers and people just living their lives
don't make news.

Speaker 3 (01:46:32):
Really, if it leads, it leads, man, that's true. That's
you go commit gee hot and blow something up. You
get your newsworth. You're in the congratulations, you just made
mainstream media.

Speaker 6 (01:46:41):
You show up and you open up a clinic or
open up an orphanage. Well guess what, you may get
hit hit some local news, but that's about it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
Yeah, it feels feel good story for the local paper.
You might get the local paper seventh page or something.

Speaker 6 (01:46:54):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
Yeah, that's even print press anymore. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:46:57):
Yeah, print princes pretty much dying off here. It's in
its last last throws.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
I know some older people, you know, skeezers that still
like to feel of that that paper in their in
their hands, and they want to walk away with that.
Remember they ink on your fingers.

Speaker 6 (01:47:14):
M right.

Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:47:17):
But I remember back in the day, growing up, whenever
that paper was was thick, and it could be used
as a weapon against you too. So if you you
got in trouble, you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
Dogs got it on the snout with the with the
daily newspaper. I mean, your dude business on this floor,
a little one. You're getting it good right here. The
paper in my hand, all rolled up and ready to go.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:47:33):
It just popular one, even though it never never really hurt,
but they get you. They you thought it was going
to hurt it, you need to run away laughing.

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
The message was got to cross.

Speaker 6 (01:47:42):
That's what counts, right, Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:47:44):
Correct your dad with that shelt, he had some talent.
I'm telling you what. Man, that bell can come through
those loops with one hand, caught with that same hand
and full swing, all one motion. Maybe you guys didn't
experience that way. You guys like neglected his children. What's called.

Speaker 6 (01:48:00):
We weren't beaten? What just weren't beaten like you?

Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
I assumed you were going to tell us more of
your horrible childhood. I was waiting here more.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
Oh, while we were what's the word I can use
on radio describe the type of children we were just
let's just say we were uncontrollable. We were out there.
I was talking to my brother about that today. We
were pretty much we have minds of our own to
do what we want to do and run the neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (01:48:23):
Well before we go tonight, guys, get away for your
neighborhood thing the real quick, sorry, because we're gonna out
of time here. Shortly, President Trump has approved the attack
plan for Iran, who just hasn't given the go order.
So whatever course of action we have against Iran is
approved and is a waiting execution, so all it takes
is a go order. Well, I told Kamani, are you

(01:48:46):
paying attention to eighty six year old fart.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
He gave He gave that warning and said get out
of Tehran and people are leaving, and he gave an
attack order. Here just what tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:48:58):
I'm thinking that you just saw this, this this staff late,
this safter and it's been confirmed by multile source. I
was waiting for a couple more sources, and while we're
chatting here I came up with it. Multiple sources now
confirmed that in the situation room he did approve the
attack plan, not the order to give it. Yeah, the plan.
So so look, I mean he and last night he
put unconditional surrender on his truth report, our truth Excuse me?

(01:49:20):
So I mean in all caps, I mean it shouldn't
be any clear. It looks like regime change is the
order of the day in Iran and only forty five
years too late.

Speaker 6 (01:49:29):
Exactly. You got that right, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
It might be it might be nice for people in
Iran to be able, for women to be able to
dress like ladies. Again and and uh do the things
to do in the nineteen the iotoline.

Speaker 6 (01:49:42):
Just go to a class and listen to you know,
somebody teach you something. I mean, come on, just that. Yeah,
they can't even do that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:51):
That's ridiculousness. I mean they've really went to the stoney.
Just since the Ie tol One it's been and I
guess since you know, since then, they've been funded Mid
Easterners to attack enemy combatants.

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
Yeah, it's odd because we've gone from Komani to Kamani.
And who's next, Kadummi.

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
I thought they were Dayla they all use.

Speaker 4 (01:50:11):
Now Iatola is the religious title, but the name of
the first guy was Komani and this one's Kamani, both
of whom were exiled to France. Why are the French
taking these radical Islamist in their midst and giving them sucker? Otherwise,
if they had done that, these idiots wouldn't been able
to go back and destroy Ron, but they did, and
we're still living with the disaster of the Jimmy Carter era.

(01:50:32):
Look at this. Carter's gone and we're still dealing with it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
Shows you the importance when you're electing a president if
you do have a true full election, and your vote
actually counts. It's very important on who you're picking, and
it's good to have a choice, not who they decide
to choose for you.

Speaker 4 (01:50:51):
It's a good reminded. Elections, as Barack Obama said, have consequences.

Speaker 6 (01:50:55):
Yeah, which means you don't just need to be voting
in general elections, voting your party primaries as well or
caucuses whatever your state has, get involved in those as well.

Speaker 4 (01:51:05):
Absolutely, you know the local actions, the ones really have
the biggest impact. Most people don't even realize that.

Speaker 6 (01:51:10):
Absolutely. I mean, look at all you people. How many
places are raising taxes this year, and a lot of
them controlled by Republicans raising taxes twenty twenty five percent
some places.

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
So, ladies and gentlemen, we have come to the end
of our show. It's been a great two hours. We've
enjoyed having this. Have you on here with us tonight.
We'll hope you join us again next week while we
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