The Common Sense Conservatives with Gina Harjani

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters every Wednesday
evening from seven to eight pm right here on WUSMN.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Fifteen ninety AM WUSMN ninety five point three FM, and
it's streaming live on WUSMN dot Live. Making sense of
the inverted reality we are subject to you every day.
The Common Sense Conservatives are here to help bring me
back to reality.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Now.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Your host Chris Wyatt, Todd McKinley, and John Gordon.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well, hello, gentlemen, welcome back to our audience tonight. It's
Common Sense Conservatives Wednesday night, thirty July twenty twenty five,
and we're just hours away from the President's Trump President
Trump's terror regime taking effect around the world. With my
co host in East Tennessee. It's a retired start for
the class. Todd McKinley. Todd, how are you hey, colonel?

Speaker 4 (00:53):
How are you doing really well? And I'm looking forward
to our guest.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Absolutely. Guys kind of caught me off guard there, so
we'll get to that in just a month there, John
up in the studio in National Hampshire. John, things up
that way, uh.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
You know, doing the same as always, Apparently Governor Ayad
is messing up New Hampshire. According to some apparently she's
signing bills. As you know, she used to be a
board member of Blackstone and now she has signed a
bill that no city or town within the state of
New Hampshire can have a single family neighborhood. They have

(01:27):
to be all open up to multifamilies and stuff. You
figure somebody who's invested into real estate and board of
Blackstone would do such a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Right, Isn't she supposed to be a Republican.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
I thought it sounds a very not.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
The conservative approach.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Sounds more like a corporatist than a conservative.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
I think, yeah, yeah, she You know, this is what
we were trying to warn folks of about voting for her,
and that's why we had Dick Morris here on this
show and not trying to rub it into folks. But
she was doing some pretty good things, so I do admit.
I mean, at the beginning she was signed some while
really nice bills, but does one here took a lot
of people off guard. They're like, okay, there it is.
That's what we're afraid open.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
So well, you know, it's a little paid attention to
reality is that government's intruding in our lives. I give
a perfect example this here. The neighborhood that I'm in
was built, I don't know, twelve years ago something like that,
and each house in a suburban area has its own mailbox,
and the postal service comes and drops mail. However, the
people who bought houses in the development that just started

(02:29):
several months ago in what used to be a horse
pasture adjacent to this, they are paying for houses that
cost sixty percent more than we pay for our houses
ten twelve years ago, smaller than our houses, and like
beggars living in a welfare housing complex and people, I'm
not making fun of those places. I grew up in them,
but like beggars in a welfare housing complex, they have

(02:52):
to go walk through the snow and the blistering heat
to one location in the entire neighborhood to collect their
mail from communal boxes doors. Now, that's because the federal
government intruded into how we build our homes and what
we do. And this is just utter nonsense, folks, utter nonsense.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
It is makes it convenient for the mill, ma'am, but
not so much for the homeowner who's licking the stamp.
By the way, all right.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
I'm sorry, folks, I'm just a little thrown off your
go ahead, todd.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
No, so yeah, I just that is kind of interesting.
Reminds me of Seinfeld though, whenever she whenever George stands
I had those wedding invitations. They kept licking the toxic
envelopes and stuff. I don't know why that popped into
my mind.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
They had some funny stuff. It was kind of like,
you know, they picked things out in real life. You know,
they made an observation comedy and stuff they needs to
see people on the streets. There's people trying to sue
that show because they're like, hey, hey that was me.
How was that character?

Speaker 3 (03:47):
You know? Sure?

Speaker 4 (03:49):
All right, a lot of people are.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Just a quick thing here for you, John. Unrelated to
you know, the multiple feeds of this getting it out
to our content. This is not running on my YouTube channel,
even though it was set up.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
I saw you had it set up. I can't, I don't.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Chris is on my end. I can't do anything. I
know you had it all all paired up and ready
to go. And why it's not connecting, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
That's very odd. It didn't give me any any message
that we have problem. Let me just take a look
while we're at this, folks. So if it's on Twitter,
let me see if it's running on Twitter, that's very strange.
It's not had this problem previously. Well, is it running
on Twitter? It is running on Twitter, but it's not
running on YouTube. Very strange. Huh Odd. Anyway, I don't

(04:36):
know what's going on there, folks, But that's quite We've
got an audience over there, so we apologize to that audience,
but it's not running. Is it running on your YouTube channel? John,
I'm checking now, Okay, Yeah, it's quite odd, Todd. We
do have a guest tonight. Anything you tell us about
that or is that? John?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Absolutely? Yeah, So we have Gina Johnny. I guess should
be on here in just a second, as soon as
John brings her in.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
But no.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
She is the most recent national winner of the American
Legion Orratorical Championship and an annual competition. It's a scholarship competition,
the Course Speech Competition, et cetera. Gives thousands of dollars
to young kids every year looking to go to college.
And she did an exceptional job and she's going to
be here talking about maybe that a little bit, but
her accept initiative, and I'm going to let her explain

(05:18):
a little bit more about the accept initiative, and there
she has. Gina, Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives. Glad
you're here. Thank you very much for being here. Tell
us a little bit about yourself before we jump into
what the accept initiative is.

Speaker 7 (05:31):
Yes, thank you so much for having me. It's it's
an honored to be here tonight, and I'm very excited.
So as as mister Todd just said, I recently won
the American Legion National Ratorical Contest. It's a speech contest
that allows students to talk about the Constitution and their
aspects on it. So my topic for the competition was

(05:56):
the Constitution in the digital age. So I talked about
how we interpret the Constitution today as we face challenges
of artificial intelligence and algorithms, which are very current topics
that we discussed today. I mean, it's on the new,
very current topic. And so I had founded this topic

(06:18):
for my speech, and I kind of it was a
new topic that a lot of people maybe hadn't talked
about before in the competition, and I realized that it
was something that a lot of people maybe did in
their everyday lives, they didn't realize in terms of using
social media and using our phones. So after creating this

(06:38):
sort of platform through the American Legion Orratorical Contest, I
decided to take the platform forward and create and Accept Initiative.
So going into kind of the process of accept, the
competition requires students to talk on some aspect of the Constitution,
So I decided to talk about the current challenges of

(07:02):
artificial and algorithms, as I said, and so in my speech,
I had talked about how sometimes we click accept or
yes without reading the terms and conditions on our phone.
So kind of going off of that, I created the
Accept Initiative, which stands for advocacy for constitutional, civic and

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ethical protection and technology to protect citizens from the rising
digital threats through digital literacy, privacy awareness, AI ethics, and
most importantly preserving our constitutional rights.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Absolutely very very important. I like to turn over to
the colonel. He loves that he has got a lot
of questions and then he's gonna he's gonna grill you. Okay,
Now I told you it was gonna be softball. And
these are very easy, but they're gonna be well thought
out questions. I'll turn it over to the kernel real quick.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, no need to be concerned their genae to be Rather,
say for our questions, where did your interest in civics
arise from? Is it something your parents instilled any or
are you just picked up on your own.

Speaker 7 (08:08):
Well, I've had a passion for public speaking since a
very young age. I think that's something that my parents
instilled in me. They've always had a camera on my face,
They've always made me speak in public. So I wanted
to do something with public speaking, and then I found
the American Legion Oratorical Contest, and that kind of got
me interested in more into law, and I wanted to

(08:31):
pursue a career in law. And I had gone to
Girls State, which is through the American Legion Auxiliary that
allows students to develop their civic knowledge and become informed citizens.
So I think a lot of programs that I've done
through the American Legion and participating in them has kind
of allowed me to delve more into the Constitution and

(08:54):
being an informed citizen. And I realized that there are
a lot of aspects and issues that I'm interested in
and I think that that kind of especially artificial intelligence
being such a current topic, kind of allowed me to
grow more on that and to focus on that, especially
in my speech, and now with the accept initiative trying
to bring more awareness to that.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Well, Ginny, you'll forgive me if I'm a step back
for second when you say, since I was from a
young age, you're not exactly forty or fifty.

Speaker 7 (09:24):
I guess, I guess only I'm only I like to say,
a new adult and just just sateen. So just from
when I was a little kid.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Okay, that's helpful. So it's been probably at least a
decade that you've had this awareness.

Speaker 7 (09:39):
Well, I think I like to say that I'm still learning,
but you know, I've I've really wanted to go more
into depth on it now that I've been able to
do more research on it through the American Legion oratorical
contests and stuff. But public speaking has been there since
since I was very young.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Okay, So you're not afraid to get out in front
of folks.

Speaker 7 (10:02):
I try, and I think maybe I mask it. Well,
I would say, I think I think I get a
little nervous every time, but I think I figured out
how to overcome that fear a little.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Well. I appreciate your interest in AI. I'm not a
fan of Skynet. I want to keep it from happening.
It's just it's just saying I've seen that terminor your
future and it doesn't look very promising, right. But that said,
I do like to make AI music all sorts of genres.
I generate songs. But so your concerns about AI, what
drove that? I mean, you mentioned not necessarily AI, but

(10:33):
you talk about privacy there when you were talking about
how people and you say sometimes I would say that
ninety nine point nine percent of the time people don't
read the terms conditions of things they sign up for.
So so what I mean, what got your attention? Was
it the privacy concerns or did you know did you
watch a one one too many Terminator movies?

Speaker 7 (10:52):
I think the main thing I would say before writing
the speech, I myself did not know that much about
artificial intelligence, and like I said, I'm still learning because
I think artificial intelligence is such there's a lot of
depth in it. It's very broad topic. It's hard to
learn everything about it. It's constantly evolving, it's constantly changing.

(11:13):
But I think what really drew me to it was
that it's so prevalent now in our lives. I say
to my mom, I was born in two thousand and seven,
that's when the first iPhone came out, you know, So
I've always known a world where there's technology that is
so easily accessible to us. But the issue that most

(11:34):
people don't realize, which is why in my speech I
had said, you might not realize what you're signing away
whenever you click yes or except, because there's so many
things every day that are so common that we realize
the negative effects that they have. For example, I focus
a lot on privacy in my speech and as well

(11:55):
now for the accept initiative, because now with every thing
going online, there are data is online, there are so
many things that are now transitioning to online platforms that
while in some ways AI is beneficial in helping and
making things easier, it's also important to address the issues

(12:17):
that may not be in the light as much and
to bring awareness to that and make sure that us
as citizens understand that side of artificial intelligence as well.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Well. You mentioned artificial intelligence concerned about that, and I
appreciate that concern, and I think you probably realize, as
you sort of alluded to it, the concern is larger
than that. I mean the interconnectedness of everything. You know,
It's possible, if you know what you're doing, to shut
down an entire power grid in the country. It's possible
to undermine a stock market and cause fictitious trades to
disrupt and lose trust and confidence. And I think that's

(12:51):
an aspect that a lot of people don't really realize.
Maybe Gena you do, and if it's something you've thought about,
you could elaborate on that. But I mean one thing
that really is important here that people don't appreci shades
just the trust that's inherent with something as simple as
using your credit card, something as simple as cashing a
check or getting money from an ATM, that entire system,
and the confidence that could be shaken overnight by a
malicious actor. Never mind AI, but just by a malicious actor.

(13:15):
Is that something that concerns you or have you thought
about as well?

Speaker 7 (13:18):
Yes? It is I myself. Actually, just just yesterday I
had received a text in the morning claiming to be
from Tennessee's DMV that I had to owe money for
a traffic violation or something for like a toll and
I mean, you know, after doing research on it, I've
been able to have a sense of awareness of you know,

(13:40):
what's not real and what's what's a scam. But you know,
even myself knowing that, you know, for a second when
I got that text, I was like, did I actually
have a traffic violation that I had pay for? You know? So,
I mean it's something that affects us every day. I mean,
there are so many different stories that you'll hear where

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people are targeted for like deep fakes or for certain
scams and stuff. And it's the thing is is people
maybe aren't well informed and they don't know how to
handle that, or they don't know how to tell. So
that's the main thing with accept is kind of bringing
that digital literacy and cybersecurity to the public so that
they understand how to tackle these threats that the digital

(14:27):
technology can lead to.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Well, you talk about these threats, Gina, and I see
that you make a very good point. Even various people,
when they're caught off guard or they're busy, or something
is done particularly well, may be inadvertently misled or hoodwinked
by artificial intelligence or by scamsters. But I'm guessing, Gina,
that you've never fallen for Nigerian prints.

Speaker 7 (14:49):
No, no, not.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Are you familiar with that scam? That's kind of old
school now, that was kind of an amateur thing for years.

Speaker 7 (14:58):
Yes, yes, I have heard about it.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
So, Gina, are you in high school? Finishing high school?
Are you off to university? Where are you at in
your stage in life?

Speaker 7 (15:07):
I just graduated high school in May, and actually just
here in two weeks, I'll be heading off to Vanderbilt
for my freshman year.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
She was, she was number one in her class, by
the way, accepted in Notre Dame. Then all of a
sudden got offered a shot to go to Vanderbilt in
in state. So she's like, I'll go to Vanderbilt versus
Notre Dame. So I don't know which one's better there.
I guess it's a dealer's choice, right.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
Well, for me, it was up giving tuition, So that
was that was an offer. I guess I couldn't really smart.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
You couldn't refuse They made her an offer. She couldn't
refuse me.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Right, Yeah, Well, I think I'd rather be at Vanderbilt
in South Bend anyway. I'm just saying if that's me.
That's my personal choice. I think it's that's a good, good,
good choice about I look at Tizer obviously very proud
of that because it's in Tennessee. But but it's uh,
I think it's an easy choice and good luck. And
what's your field to study going to be?

Speaker 7 (16:03):
I'm going to be doing communications of science and technology,
so I want to take the accept initiative and maybe
work on it at Vanderbilt as well. I know they
have a big technology department. They do a lot with
national security. So I'm accepted that it's early stages, but
I'm trying to develop it and maybe work on it more.
Head off to Vanderbilt.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'm starting to feel like a bit of a dinosaur here, Todd.
I mean, you know, you know, as after Alia's University,
they came up with unusual things like women's studies and
queer studies and things like that. But now we have
digital science, technology communications degrees. I mean, this is going
to be so specialized that we're going to be talking
about degrees in positive and negative neurons. I mean, that's
where we're going to be eventually. I mean, there's so

(16:45):
many different fields that kids can study now.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Mm, yeah, Oh, it's amazing. Souina. How do you think
the accept initiative would help protect veterans and youth and
why is it important at this point in life.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
I think that the acceptance is very important today, especially
because I mean, like I said, this is an issue
that we're dealing with every day. I mean, every time
I turn on the news, there's something going on about
artificial intelligence or something going on about how it's developing
and stuff. So I focus a lot on veterans in

(17:20):
youth because I feel like those are two groups that
are very vulnerable to these threats. Youth especially because speaking
as a youth and teenager myself, I mean, teenagers use
cell phones all the time, and they're immersed in technology,
and I think that it's important to make sure that

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our upcoming generations are aware and well versed in this
new sort of resource that we have. And accept is
important especially now because our constitutional rights, in my opinion,
you are somewhat being eroded as we advance with this technology.

(18:05):
And and that's something that I don't think any American,
I would say, would ever want because those are those
are our rights that we have. People have fought and
died to protect and accept tries to bring awareness of
that and bring an education to the people, because, for example,

(18:26):
our freedom of speech is being impacted by these opaque algorithms,
and our privacy is being harmed by this data that
is being collected on us. So accept really is just
a kind of way to allow our constitutional rights to

(18:46):
not be forfeited. And I you know, the thing is
is that a lot of states have started to address
these issues, and they've started to have laws, and they've
started to do acts, various acts in different states, but
there's no actual federal law or mandator act to kind
of address this issue as a whole. You know, it's

(19:06):
very fragmented, it's very incomplete. So accept as an initiative
to kind of make it where all citizens see this
and are aware of what's going on in the threats
of it.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Absolutely, So we talk about freedom of speech on here
on a regular basis. In privacy for sure, how does
AI put people's privacy and freedom of speech at risk?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Right?

Speaker 7 (19:30):
So, like I said, algorithms like on social media, for example,
they can alter the way that who you hear or
how you're heard. I say that in my speech a
lot because I focus on the First Amendment for a
part of my speech, and how these algorithms can can
manipulate public discourse and make it to where you hear

(19:54):
things that or create digital discrimination.

Speaker 8 (20:00):
You know.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
Along with free speech, these algorithms can also manipulate these
young citizens into things that are more on the darker side.
For example, there are cases where algorithms where they have
led kids to suicide, you know, are harmful sort of
things that I know, mister pod You've done a little

(20:21):
a lot of research on suicide, especially with veterans as well,
so kind of just just seeing all of this, like
these cases that that have really been linked to artificial intelligence,
and I don't know if you could expand a little

(20:42):
bit more on veterans suicide as.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Well on Oh absolutely for sure.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
And I've seen in the past where you know, kids
get bullied online if you will, or even even AI
situation where people implemented AI, you know, did videos of
people that aren't real and they basically they were driven
to commit suicide. I've seen that before, for sure.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
One of the things that comes up here, of course,
is we hear the phrase when you've mentioned there, Gina,
is that this concept of deep fakes but I mean,
I think the fakes is going to be a misnumber.
They're wide open, right in our face fakes. At this point,
they're becoming so sophisticated. Just a year ago, you'd watch
someone take Barack Obama and have him say something in
his lips moving. It wasn't in sick. Today software can

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render that, so that looks very convincing, it looks very genuine.
I think this is a very serious concern when it
comes to trust. You're going to have people fake celebrities.
You're going to have people fake politicians, and they'll say something,
and people are gullible, especially online. A lot of people
don't realize garbage in garbage out, and I think that's
rather important. Sounds like you're on board with that gena

(21:48):
not in favor of it, but you understand it well.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
Actually have experienced this myself in high school. I had
a good marketing class where I had to make an
ad and I was trying to make it a little
more realistic. So I had found an app that allowed
you to use celebrity voiceovers. So I had used Snoop
Dogg to do a voice my ad, and when I

(22:14):
presented to school, I mean by lunchtime. I was like
a celebrity. Everybody was like she knows Snoop Dogg, you know,
like the ad was. But and you know, at the time,
I was like, you know, this is this is so
cool that it works. But you know, now doing accept
and kind of doing a lot more research on it,

(22:35):
You're right, people are so gullible. I mean, my own teachers,
my classmates, they were they were fully convinced that what
I had done was real. And you know, it's it's
getting to the point, like you said, where it's kind
of hard to tell the difference. And I mean, this
technology is so readily available to us, Like like I said,
I mean, it was just a simple.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
App that Okay.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Your your microphone is dropping in and out there, Gina.
I don't know if you got any adjustments on that
or not, or if it's just an audio thing on your.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
It was cutting out a little bit initially, but now
it's cutting out a lot.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Right, a little bit there.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
Sometimes these things happen if you're using Google, they'll take
over your microphone volume.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Okay, John, just just be honest. It's because it's not
really Gene, it's a I it's a probably probably she
dropped off, so she probably didn't catch that.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Back in the second.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
We'll give her a second to come back. Yeah she is.
That's better. Now, did you know what I said, Gene?
I said, you know, let's be honest. It's the problem
is it's not Gene, it's a I.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yeah, it's just for the blaming. She doesn't have a
couple of ais in her name. There are different orders though,
But yeah, wondering, wondering.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
She has an army of bot army of bot followers there, so,
but do you I mean, that's a fair point, and
that thank you for the anecdotal story of exactly a situation.
How people can be just so blown away. The only
defense to this that I can see is either people
actively addressing the concern of AI and fakes. That would
be one thing, like a coachy and army of people

(24:17):
out there who look at these things and go, wait
a second, that's not real. Here's why we've looked at it.
We've looked at the friends exist is't the real And
the other reason, the other thing I think in these
happens is that people just need to be more aware.
I mean, it's astounding to me how gullible people are
I deal with this every day as a journalist, where
people in South African particular, they send me this thing.
Did you see who said this? And I, okay, first off,

(24:37):
I don't have to go any further. The whole concept
of what you're telling me is implausible. No one would
ever say or do that, especially the person you're talking about.
Next thing, Okay, notice this, notice that. But I mean,
that's a very discerning person. But even as we said,
gen even smart people like yourself, and I like to
include myself in that boat as a smart person that's
aware of these things sometimes find or find ourselves gullible
for it. So it sounds to me like a very

(24:58):
serious threat to civil society and many respects.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
Yes, yes, definitely, it definitely is. And that's that's kind
of why. Because I doing the oratorical contest, people would
come up to me after and they would say, you've
addressed a topic that you know, maybe we hadn't really
thought about before, but it's actually it's very relevant to
our everyday lives. And I wanted to use that platform

(25:24):
and start except because I think that this is an
issue that really needs to be addressed so that we
are making sure that our citizens don't fall prey to
this technology.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
I think it's very important. Folks. You're listening to Comma
Seess Conservatives right here on WSMN, and you can catch us,
as Todd likes to say, on the interwebs, on many platforms,
although tonight not on my YouTube channel because it did launch.
I looked at the studio while while we were watch
she was looking at a microphone there and it's playing
on x but not playing on my YouTube channel. But
you can catch us all over the internet. To get
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(25:56):
where on every Wednesday night from seven to nine pm,
Comma Sense Conservatives cost to the team of Todd McKinley
in East Tennessee, John Grosvenor a studio in National Hampshire,
and myself Chris White here in Central Pennsylvania. You know,
until last night, I was in Alabama. Now I'm back
in Central Pennsylvania, and I'm glad that the Committy is
only eighty five percent, not ten thousand percent as it

(26:16):
was in Alabama. My goodness, brutal down there. I don't
understand why people moved there, but that's on them, not
on me.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
That way is that why you wear in a sweatshirt there, Chris,
it's so cold to you now, being up in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
It's it's because I turned the air conditioner down to
sixty degrees in my house and it is sixty degrees now.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
I almost wear a sweatshirt tonight too, John, because it
is chilly. You know, you have me have storms rolling through.
So yeah, the temperatures dropped big time here.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah. Well, I was going to say, Tennessee's actually, you know,
it's a lot more pleasant than it can be a
bit further south there, so Gina, Okay, related to the topic,
let's shift a little bit here. Did you grow up
there in Tennessee? Is that where you spent your childhood
or or where you like me and nomad living all
the country, And if so, what's it like.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
I I'm from Galla, Tennessee, small little tourist town, and
I've born and raised in Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Oh you here now, Yeah, she was using it. She
was used in that fake Midwestern accent for the first
portion of the program.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
It slips a little, country action slips a little, and
then I mean, I'm fortunate, i'd say, to be able
to continue my education in Tennessee going to Vanderbilt, So,
I mean, I love Tennessee. I said whenever I enrolled
in Vanderbilt that I'm glad that I get to keep
my boots when I go to college there.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
You go, Well, I mean that raised a question, Gina.
I think it's interesting. I mean, have you ever been
out of the country. Have you been to like, you know,
like someplace crazy place like North Carolina or Kentucky. Have
been of the country.

Speaker 7 (27:46):
Actually, I've been fortunate to be a big traveler. My
my parents have taken me all over the world. I
mean I think I think one time I counted maybe
around thirty countries that have been so I'm I'm an
avid traveler. I guess you could say. But you know,
I enjoy traveling a lot because, you know, being from
a small town, it gives you a bigger perspective on

(28:10):
the world and it really shows a lot of different
different places. And I love traveling.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
So well, that's a good appreciation for getting around. I
myself have been around eighty countries and lived in sixteen,
so I can appreciate what you're talking about there. What's
a lesson. I mean, it's early in life for you,
but what's a lesson or maybe something issuing you learned
about being somewhere overseas that really just sticks with you.

Speaker 7 (28:32):
I think it's really helped me see just the tiny
little spot that I'm in compared to this huge world.
And I mean, I mean, it's so it's so important
to see how people are living just I mean, maybe
even on the other side of Tennessee. There's so many

(28:53):
different types of you know, situations that people are living in,
or different conditions that people are living in. So I
think it's really important to see that and to understand that,
especially I think at an early age that it's important
to understand that. It gives you a different perspective on
the world. And and honestly, it makes me grateful to

(29:15):
live in this country and have the reason.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
So, Jima, are you an outlier or a lot of
kids your age? Sorry to use the term kids, but
I mean I'm over thirty, so I can say that.
But are a lot of kids your age? Are they
civically interested? Or is it because my experience has been
that we've have a gap yere of a couple of
decades where young Americans have sort of lost touch with
civics and then they have these outrageous demands, and for
me it became pretty evident. I'm sorry to say this,

(29:41):
but it would be before you were born with nine
to eleven. So after nine eleven, we had awful lot
of people that didn't actually before that, George Bush and
now Gore's election of two thousand and a lot of
people already wrong going, but Al Gore got more votes.
And I'm like, but that isn't your main You have
to understand how electoral colleges and works. So my question is,
is the folks around you that you went to school
with and gonna be off the vander but this false

(30:02):
You have a different view on that. Are are they
civically interested or is it just a few outliers like you?

Speaker 7 (30:07):
Well, you know, I had done research for my topic
for speech competition, and one of the statistics that I
had said in my speech was that only twenty two
percent of eighth graders were proficient in civics. So that
means that less than one in four teenagers fully understand

(30:28):
the principles of American democracy. So in a way, I
would say that you know, a lot of a lot
of students my age, aren't I mean, we have history
classes and stuff, but they aren't really aware about their
are their rights, and you know that's kind of the
dangers with technology. You know, that's what ACCEPT focuses on

(30:51):
is is making sure that we know our constitutional rights,
because you know, that's it's very important as citizens to
be well informed. But you know, we're losing a touch,
in my opinion, on the rights that we have. So
as AI and technology and digital technology continues to grow,

(31:11):
you know, we have to keep in mind that we
still have these rights. And I would say that I
wish that our students were more well informed on their
civics and I know that there are maybe around twenty
one states that have digital citizenship as a class. And

(31:32):
President Trump has recently done an executive order where he
wants artificial intelligence and civics to be more prevalent in classes.
And I think that's very important because, like I said,
as we continue on with technology, we still need to
make sure that we have our rights and our constitutional protections.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Well, you talk a lot about rights there gena of course,
and I assume that you also it's inherent in your
mindset that as citizens of responsibilities and that's why you
also need no Civics.

Speaker 7 (32:03):
Yes, definitely.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
So when you get to campus this fall, is this
an activity you're going to continue working with accept Is
this something you're going to push.

Speaker 7 (32:13):
I do hope to continue it. I've recently, I mean
recently just started to build this platform. I've been working
with the American Legion because I mean, I feel like
the American already has so much trust, so much outreach
to the youth through its Americanism program such as Girls

(32:33):
in Boys State ortorical contests, and then as well as
the veterans. So I've been using the American Legion, and
then I hope to go on to Vanderbilt and use
my major and use the different platforms that they have
there to continue this and to make it a bigger
outreach and kind of really grow the initiative because I

(32:54):
do think, like I said, I'm very passionate about it,
and I think that it really needs to have that awareness,
especially in today's age where I mean, it's such it's
such a current topic.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
So where do we go from here? Is it something
that will require funding or just people's involvement. Is it
going to unique? What's something something's moving there? Is it
gonna involve do you need funding for it. Is it
just gonna involve volunteers or does it need a digital platform?
Wouldn't that be ironic of course for Tom about an't
for some digital platform.

Speaker 7 (33:21):
Yes, So, like I said, I think the American Legion
is a big part of expanding except I know that
they already have.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
Platform aspect to go into the reaching out the people
that they already have involved in it would be very beneficial.

Speaker 7 (33:43):
I've been trying to work with people in Tennessee legislature
and in Tennessee government to kind of bring a bigger
outreach to that as well. So I think that I
want to bring it onto digital platforms as well, put
it on websites, you know, have easy app access to
to this digital literacy and this education of what the

(34:06):
harms are and how to handle that. So I think
really using the American Legent's platform as well as is
having a digital outreach would really allow us to be
able to connect to a lot of people in about
a aspect.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
So this is a question. I think it's very probably
a lot of people are what are your parents thoughts
on this? Have they been supportive? I imagine that they are.
I mean they see a right smile on your face there,
I did. Do your parents think you're You're nuts? Said?
Do they think it's a good idea? Well?

Speaker 7 (34:39):
Actually, when I had first come up with the topic
for my speech for doing the Constitution of the Digital Age,
they were worried. They they were they were concerned as
to would people understand like what I was trying to explain,
would they take it the right way? Would they would
they kind of what I was talking about? And you know,

(35:01):
I mean, it ended up working out for the best.
But even I myself up until Nationals, I think I
would ask people in the American legion, do you is
this a good topic? Like do you do you think
that it would work? And stuff? So call a little
hesitant at first, speech wise, but I think after I
started to research a little bit more and learn more

(35:22):
about it, they've been nothing but support it. They've helped me.
We'll discuss all the current things that we're going on
with AI and artificial intelligence, and you know, we'll talk
about current issues. Like today we were sitting and we
were watching President Trump talk about bringing healthcare into digital technology,

(35:45):
which is such a big thing that can help all
citizens and help veterans, even especially by moving all of
that onto a digital platform, and then we would lead
into how that's also a fear because you know, now
all of our data line that can be you know,
a breach of privacy if it's used the wrong way.

Speaker 8 (36:06):
You know.

Speaker 7 (36:07):
So they've been nothing but supportive, and they've they've really
allowed me to have a way to discuss with them
and kind of learn more. We all learn from each other,
so it's it's I've got a good supportive base behind me.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Oh that's pretty good to hear, you know, you talk
about the security aspect. Over twenty one million veterans and
active juty military have had their personal details compromised by
the Personal Management multiple times, leaving the back door open
unintentionally to the database. I know Todd's gotten a letter.
I've gotten three letters telling me that mister Fuji is
going to come knock on my door one day and
asked me to reveal secrets or he's going to expose

(36:43):
the fact that I'm very fond of the color purple.
I'm sure how that would be a threat, but anyway, so,
I mean that's out there. That's a very real concern
when it comes to privacy. As you said, but you
know it's it's Gina, here's a not a pushback to you,
but just to kind of throw this out there, digital
is fantastic. I'm in early adopter. I've been doing computers
since the seventies when I was a little kid, and

(37:03):
I use it extensively. But you know, it's it's also
not a be all to end all. For instance, I
had to get an next ray on my hip and
that was fantastic, and it's done digitally a lot different
than it used to be in the old day. That
data was transmitted to Walter Reed Hospital right after they
finished taking the film, and within a couple hours the
X ray technician to reviewed it, made their evaluation, sent

(37:25):
it back. But the long poll in the tenching is
that there's only three doctors at my clinic instead of
the eighth that they're authorized originally, So I have to
wait almost a month to have a telephonic return call
to discuss whether I've got a hip problem or it's
just all my head. So I mean, the thing that
I get to the point think is that digital is
what we make it, isn't it right?

Speaker 7 (37:44):
Right? And I think we're to the point where we're
trying to use digital technology so many aspects of our lives.
I mean, you know, I hate to say it, but
you know, students are now using AI for you know,
their homework and stuff. You know, but you know, there
are a lot of benefits, and you're experts kind of

(38:07):
helping people with their healthcare through artificial intelligence. But you know,
also just making sure that you understand the harms that
come with it too, And I think most importantly is
making sure that US citizens use it the right way.
And I think if we use AI beneficially, I mean,
it's great, but you know, also just making sure that
we're not using it.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
For the well, there's there's a couple of points there
that that you tease out, and I'll say one as
having the university professor grading papers. I do not like
people using artificial intelligence for the research or using using
crutches or paper mills and stuff like that. That's academically dishonest.
But I will say this, at least it's not as

(38:47):
painful to read many of these papers because they're at
least legible and literated by the computers, unlike some of
the students themselves. But I mean that there is a
whole other question we've got this. An awful lot of
people who aren't thinking for themselves, Gina, They're they're letting
computers do the thinking for them. And if that's how
they start out life in their academic career, gosh, what
kind of people. What kind of leaders will they be

(39:08):
when they get older in life? And and you know,
if the batteries dead on their cell phone and if
the generators out, will they be able to lead? I
mean that's a real fear, don't you think? Right?

Speaker 7 (39:17):
Yes, I know I've heard a lot of people say
that they're worried about you know, my generation or future generations,
like you know, they'll go to the extreme about like
leaving the world in our hands and you know, how
we're going to maintain it and stuff. And you know,
I mean I either point, but I let's say, you know,
you know, don't give up on our generation. And I

(39:37):
think accept as kind of a way to make sure
that our student future generations aren't doing that, that to
make sure they aren't vulnerable to all of this digital
technology and like you said, kind of just not using
their brain and just using the technology. So I think
that by having that digital literacy and by using it

(39:59):
in a beneficial away and the right way, where we're
using it for the good. I think our generation can
take it where we are using it for the better,
but also where we're still making sure that it's not
over taking you know, us as us as citizens.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
You know, well, you know you talked a little bit
about research, and so I want to delve into that
just briefly. Here is in my dan I don't want
to sound like an old fossil here, but I mean,
you know, the Dewey decil, smithsm and going through Lexus
and Nexus on a computer searching for things, going through
periodical indexes and all of those things. Those were key
ways of doing of course, primary research looking for original documents,

(40:39):
and then secondary research, you know, tertiary research, yah books
and magazines published, all those things contribute. But in the
digital age, a lot of that becomes much easier in
some respects because you can get at your fingertips. You
don't have to go to a library, you don't have
to dig this stuff out from somewhere, and so it
makes easier net respect. But also you got to be
careful about, as we said before, garbage and garbage out
what's real. So when you did your search, what's what

(41:00):
research to do? Did you have in person interviews to
talk to people, to talk to experts. Did you rely
on Google or you know or you know duc dot
go searches? Did you go to periodicals? What kind of
research you do? Because I'm just curious to find out
how you you went about finding information to reach conclusions
that you reached for this interesting project.

Speaker 7 (41:20):
Right. So, a lot of the research that I had
done was started off for the speech and kind of
building that speech to give. So a lot of my
research came from like, for example, Tennessee dot gov would
have information on what they were doing and what issues

(41:41):
that they were addressing whenever they were creating these different acts.
For example, Tennessee has various acts that they've done for
addressing issues of deep fakes, information privacy acts and stuff.
So I would use the research that they have done
on government websites and use that information and the statistics
that they had provided to address in my speech. And

(42:05):
I also researched various cases that where AI had been used,
maybe in a negative way. For example, I talked about
a girl who had encountered harmful algorithms and eventually led
to suicide. And I also talked about, for example, the
Cambridge Analytica scandal that happened with Facebook. So I use

(42:27):
a lot of issues that people maybe knew about, for
example the Cambridge Analytica scandal, and also actual cases as
evidence to kind of back up what I was saying.

Speaker 6 (42:40):
So from.

Speaker 7 (42:45):
Okay, seeing what other people were saying about it.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Juter, I think the issue with your microphone is when
you lean back, it seems to lose it. So we
lost so much shit. That's okay, but you lean back there.
I prefer that you're comfortable when you chat, but when
you lean back, you just kind of faded off. I
don't know if you're using bluetooth with a range of
half a foot or what's going on there, but it
just kind of lost you there. So we got you back,
So let me ask you this question. You know, it

(43:11):
seems like you have an appreciation for being discerning and
thinking for yourself being, and I would hope I'm getting
the impression that you're a critical thinker for everything the Audien.
It's not a critic, but a critical thinker. There's a
clear distinction there. We can all say bad things to
be unhappy about something, but being a critical thinker, someone
who looks at the motivations, looks at why things are
being said or why people are been presenting arguments. If

(43:33):
that's the case in your situation, which I suspect it is,
how did you come about that kind of mindset? Is
it something that you learned in school? Was it fostered
by teachers or or your parents have a big role
in that, or maybe I don't know, maybe faith, I
don't know if your faith plays wrong. But how did
you get to the point where you thought critically and
you try to be a discerning person because I get
the impression you are on that if I'm wrong, if

(43:55):
you're just you know, just you're winging it, let me know.
But it doesn't seem like you're winging.

Speaker 8 (44:00):
Well.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
I think maybe my parents have been still letting me
to think for myself, you know. I I say that,
you know, because I'm an only child. I like to to,
you know, be be able to protect myself and you know,
be able to talk about things. So I've been able

(44:20):
to be an only child, I've been able to really
converse with my parents on different things and have that
sort of connection with them, maybe bigger than a parent
level and more as like a friend or just just
you know. So so I think they've really encouraged me
to speak knowing what I'm talking about and in a
matter where I understand what I'm saying before I speak.

(44:45):
So I think that's helped a lot with critical thinking.
And I like to, you know, if I don't know
something that to go and do research on it. For example,
still while I'm starting this AI platform, this sorry, this
succept platform, just doing research and learning more about it,
you know, because like I said, it's such a deep
topic that it's kind of hard. I feel like people

(45:06):
who are working in AI now may be struggled chrying
to the gravity.

Speaker 6 (45:11):
So I think.

Speaker 7 (45:15):
What you're saying and to say in the message that
you're trying to give.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Well, Gina, it's just a matter of weeks before you
head off to the Vanderbilt campus. There's going to be
distractions there. You're going to have. I don't know if
a sorority thing is something you're interesting. I don't know
if you're interested in guys or gals, but both will
be distraction one way or another. I don't know if
you're into sports or into all those things, but you're
going to find once you get to campus, no matter

(45:42):
how focused you are in life, there's a lot of
stray voltage that's coming your way. And it's going to
say difficult to say focused. Have you thought about that?
And you know, because it sounds like accept it is
important to you and you don't want to see it
die on the vine. So you're going to have to
make I think, a concerted effort to stay engaged with
it and keep it moving, and keep that ball moving
down the field, you know, as I like to say
about football, matriculating down the field. Since you're going to

(46:03):
matriculate in the university, have you thought about this at all?
Are you just excited to go to college? Which is it?
Where is it both?

Speaker 7 (46:10):
I think I think I would say it's a little
bit of both. But I mean, my parents give me
lectures about it all the time. They're saying, you know,
we're not going to be there with you anymore. You're
gonna have to learn how to how to, you know, time,
manage do things on your own. Now we're not going
to be sitting, you know, behind you making sure that
you're doing everything. So you know, I mean, I'm I'm
excited to go to college and stuff, But like you said,

(46:33):
I do want to keep accept and work on it
a lot more. So I'm fortunate to be able to
go to the National Convention for American Legion and I'll
get to talk about except there, so that'll be later
on this in August, and then do more do more
talking about accept later on semesters. So hopefully I'll be

(46:54):
able to do a little bit of both. I still
want to be involved in Vanderbilt joined clubs and and
make friends and do all sorts of things there and
get the college experience. But you know, also keeping in mind,
you know what I want to do in the future,
which is accept and going into law and going into privacy.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
And well, Gina, if you're interested in little advice, you
don't have to take it, which is some free advice.
You know, a lot of people, a lot of people
they look at university and they knuckle down and they
focus entirely on their studies and they try to get
through and get great grades and learn and achieve and
move on, and that's great, that's wonderful thing. And other

(47:34):
people they think they're at animal house and that they're
supposed to be rousing and boozing and drinking and partying
the whole time. It's somewhere in the middle. That's a
happy medium that makes the best college experience. I can
tell you from personal experience because I've been going to
university of my entire life. I just finished another program
last year with University of Michigan or Michigan State. Excuse me, sorry, Spartans,
it's Michigan State, not Overid's Michigan State. Yeah, but I

(47:58):
also done multiple degrees undergraduate, postgraduate. But the single probably
most important period in my life and development, and I
hope that's the same for you, is my experience on
campus and going to campus because the interaction with other people.
You're becoming an adult, your maturation process. You're on your own.
You have to make as your parents have told you, you
have to make those decisions for yourself. I mean, if

(48:20):
you if you mess up paying your bills, it's your
credit rating and that will hurt you in life. So
you've got you've got to be an adult, but you've
also got to try to experience life. And I would
say that the hardest challenge for a lot of students
going to school is finding that balance. It's very difficult
for some folks. I know, I started university at seventeen
and I was just happy to escape my childhood and
go on campus. And I was a very poor student

(48:43):
as a consequence, but but I had a great experience.
I learned a lot about life, and I have no regrets.
But I'm wishing you the very best when you get
on campus, and I hope that you you find that
work life balance and it's something you can I think
it sounds like, Look, Todd, it sounds like she's pretty
pretty steady, and I think we have to worry about
we go on campus like she's she's got together. But

(49:04):
I think good she.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Won't be hanging out and dealt the towel the animal
house anytime soon, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Is that the fraternity? I did? We remember? I say,
But I know, I think it sounds like she's a
very bounced person's going to do well. So John, you know,
we've I've kind of haulged the airtime here because I'm
joining the conversation with Gene. It's been very informative. I
suppose you may have a question to too. I want
to give you a chance to get in here before
the program ends.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
Well, I'm very impressed Gena, I really love what you do.
I love the fact that you're so young and your
mindset is there, and I know there's others like you
at your age, and I think it's impressive when it
comes to the generational thing and taking criticism from from
previous generations. Just remind the boomers they're the ones that
created this mess.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Okay, so excuse me, excuse me. I'm a I'm a tween.
I'm a boomer slash gen X. I'm the last the
baby side. I think, uh yeah, maybe, but I take
offense to that comment. The boomers built this kind anyway. Now,
but seriously, anyway.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
I'll tell you what. You're sitting there listening to elderly
people ushering in a lot of this.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Okay, you know you're you're that's you know we got.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
We got octagenarians out there talking about out there on
the internet.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Give me, are you blind? That's a yellow card? Gina?
Do you follow soccer ri Rugby? That's a yellow card? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (50:28):
I in the rules here and I'm the guy who
puts it out there on this show. Goodness not Anyway,
I'm wondering, have you got any backers with accepted the
corporations have you reached out to anybody? Are they're backing you?

Speaker 7 (50:42):
Yeah? Well, first of all, I'd like to say in
defense for the elder, I think that they've seen the
most change in technology from having no computers or internet artificial.
But yes, I actually have had something with accept so far.
I mean, like I said that it's it's very new.
But I've been using help from the American legend, those

(51:04):
who have met through the oratorical contest, mister being one
of them, who've helped me kind of bring this platform
to light. And I've been working with Tennessee legislature. I'll
be having a meeting with Marshall Blackburn's office this upcoming
week and stuff, and trying to been I've been acting
people so far in the state kind of bring awareness.

(51:27):
So I'm taking it step by step to to try
to bring more light to my initiative.

Speaker 5 (51:32):
But hopefully it does take a wall to build these things.
They don't they don't grow overnight. The other thing is
is you have the ability to team build. I mean,
you've got it. You got something here and it is
very important to you. And you've also got some other
endeavors coming up that are equally or more important, actually
more important, because you need your education more than anything.
So have you got the means to build a team

(51:53):
or are you building a team right now so you
can keep this going.

Speaker 7 (51:57):
I would like to build a team. I know that
there I met a bunch of people at the national
competition for oratorical that we're very interested in the topic.
So I'd like to reach out to they are very
well versed in matters of the Constitution as of doing
the oratorical contests, as well as reaching out to the

(52:21):
boys stay the nation, those who are passionate about it.
And that's also why I want to take this platform
and reach out to those who are passionate about making
sure that that artificial intelligence and digital technology does not
take away from our right. So I want to call
out to those in the American Legion, other students like

(52:42):
me who want to help take this initiative forward because
I think that, like I said, it's such a big
issue that we're dealing with today. So I want to
reach out to those maybe no more information about it,
Like I said, I'm still trying to learn, trying to
I feel like I feel like once you start to
learn something on AI, it just develops even further and

(53:03):
then yeah, no, it does reaching out to those.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Well, Todd, we're gonna run out of time here in
just a few moments. I want to give them, Gina
a chance. Gina, we're gonna wrap up here. I want
to thank you for coming on. I really appreciate you
sharing your accept program concept with us, and and I
wish you the very best at Vanderbilt. He'll keep an
eye out there, you know, campus could be a dangerous place.
Maybe to send sound some bodyguards, keep an eye and
make sure that you're safe down there on campus. But

(53:30):
I'd like to give you the floor for a few
moments until we get the roll out here. Anything you'd
like to share with folks about, you know, being engaged,
not to marriage folks, but engaged in civics, being engaged
and taking part in society, and just maybe a word
of encouragement to folks. It sounds like you're on the
right step in life.

Speaker 7 (53:49):
Yes, I would just like to say that, you know,
the most important thing I would say as a young
American is being well formed and informed citizen. And I
would like to say that I want to call out
to all of those who are passionate about this and
to reach out for accept because this is something that

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is it's a mission to to make sure that our
citizens are safe and well informed whenever they're usually using
these digital platforms. And I just want to say that
make sure that as a citizen, you know your rights
and that you know that when you enter a digital
platform you don't lose sight of that. That's that's the
most important thing I would say. Know that how you

(54:33):
are you were using for the.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
We lost the last bit there. I think she was saying,
make sure it's used for the right reasons. I think
it's what she said. Yeah, okay, all right, Todd, you
want to you want to close this up here? Thank you?

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Yeah, Gina, I really appreciate it. And we're going to
have you back on for sure. And like you talked
about the American Legion on a regular any veteran service
organization more than willing to be involved get involved here,
civic organization is just the same. We need you help
on this. We're going to support you all the way
through the finish line, Gina, and look forward to working
with you over the next four years of your college
career and who knows where you go from there. We

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want to have you back on the program as things
progress with the accept for sure. Where can people reach
you if they want, If you need somebody to reach
out to you, email, whatever, whatever you feel comfortable sharing.
I'm sure AI already knows what it.

Speaker 7 (55:18):
Is, though, I'm sure you can reach me in my email.
It's it's Gina her Johnny and well. And I would
just like to say vigilant and be proactive about IF
guarding our rights. And thank you so much for having
the show. It's a privilege to be on here and
be able to talk about this issue.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
Here we go, Gina har Johnny National Champion Oratorical American Legion.
We love you. I really appreciate you. Colonel.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Yeah. And I was going to say fascinates surname too,
it's from the Indian subcott. And if I'm not mistaken,
and if I'm not mistaken, her Johnny has to do
with people whose families were involved in faith and christ stuff.
I'm not mistaken. Thank you so much so we'll be
back in next hour, Gina. Thank you. Stay tuned, folks,
We'll see you in next hour.

Speaker 8 (56:28):
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Speaker 3 (56:42):
Welcome back to the program, folks. In the second hour
here we had our first hour. Gina was our guest
talking to us. Gina Hard Johnny talking to us about
her project there called except to get people interested in
paying attention to the hazards and dangers of artificial intelligence.
Very fascinating. I thought the top was in and you know,
I wish the very best there Todd at Vanderbilt. I

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hope that it sounds like she's one of those well
justiced folks. But you always worry when kids go off
to college. You never know what you're going to get.
You know, you may get the students who do well,
and there's some who struggle. There's a party too much.
But I don't I think she's going to do okay.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
Oh I think so too. She has a good home life,
good family, you know. So plus she's got a lot,
a lot of people behind her here. I like you
talk about the American Legion. Everybody supports her in the Legion,
you know, really appreciate what you've done. I think she'll
have a good, good network for sure.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Does her family have any ties to the Legion or
the VFW or just she just competed.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
No, just just through the oratorical competition. And of course
she's had a lot of mentors within the legion. Former
retired Air Force colonel who's also a JAG or a
judge in the Air Force got really involved, helped coach
her along the way, and I think give her some
good pointers that helped help with her own natural abilities.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
I think, well, you know, I did want to give
her a hard time on the show, but she did
say she's interested in law. Eh.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
I think we need some good people in law, not
not just the shyster lawyers that we see, you know
on Fox News or seeing in on a regular basis
trying to screw us over lawyers.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
I think Chris is saying anything worse than the used
car salesman is.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
No, just knights. I'm sure she'll enjoy it, but I
just some teasing. No, it's uh, she's decided early on
what she wants to do. It's that's that's fantastic. You know.
I I made a plan for myself around the same age,
and and and and live that plan and achieve those goals.
So I'm glad she's got something in place, and it congrats.
Vanderbilt is not exactly a place to sneeze about. That's
a pretty impressive university, right, Oh.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Absolutely, and she got a full ride, I believe, you know,
for the most part, as far as Vanderbilt is concerned.
I mean, very cheap for her to go there, I think,
based on what she's done in her life. I mean,
you think about how much Vanderbilt costs or even Notre
Dame for crying out loud, if you try to pay
for it out of your pocket, I mean it would
be astronomical.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Guys, you know, not to switch from Gina in a
fascinating conversation, but what a tough month for celebrities. July
has been rough. Ozzy Osbourne has past, hul Cogan, Malcolm
Jamal Warner drowning in his fifties, Chuck Tan, Jony Ryan
Samberg just passed away. It has been brutal.

Speaker 5 (59:11):
Will I think, I think all these folks so they
are they are up there in age.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
I mean they live full, thruit full Malcolm Jamal Warner
and you know.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
Of Jamel Warner who died at a very young age.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Yes, well, Samberg had been sixty five, yeah, yeah. Major
League Baseball.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
All star that's still relatively young today's stance.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Yes, he was a professional athlete too, you know.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
And in the interest of full disclosure, guys, I actually thought,
you know that Ozzy Osborne has been dead for about
thirty years. He looked like it.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
Oh jeezus, you just you just lost enough of our
audience by everybody.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Tell me, tell me he did look like he was
dead on that three of the show.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
Okay, so so yeah, Ozzie, Well he was all and stuff,
but he he had all I hate to say it
this way, but his performance was rather poor because of
his health and stuff like that. It was more of
a you know, people just love them. They were there
because they loved them more than.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
I wasn't comm any of his as his musical performance.
I'm talking about he did that reality show. The guy
look he looked like a corpse of twenty years ago.
I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
Oh I think he was sick then, Yeah, you got
terrible arthritis.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
But you got to give it to Ozzy Osbourne. I mean, look,
I'm not I'm not advocating his lifestyle, but the guy
did every drug you can imagine and somehow managed to
stay married to his spouse. All these years and then
raise his kids, even as strange as they may have
turned out. Right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
Absolutely, but you know, in years after he got away
from the drugs, after he got kicked out of his
first burst band Whip Solo, he didn't advocate for drugs.
He stopped doing drugs and he told people not to
do them. You know, He's like this, this is what
you're going to be like if you keep doing these
hard drugs.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Basically, Well, and in fact, that's an amazing thing. The
man got seventy six years of life despite a rather
you know, difficult lifestyle that he had for a while there.
But I mean it's but Ozzie's passed, I mean, and
and then hault Coke. And I think some people are
surprised by that. Uh maybe not everybody, but this relative
a young man to.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
Die, and Keith Richards is still living up to his reputation.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Yeah, God showed up.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Keith Ridgard was just kind of there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Keith Ridges is too stubborn to die.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Yeah, whenever God, but Keith, Keith just happened to be there.
He was like a roommate of God or something he desired.
You're gonna go down there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Well, the Malcolm and Jamal Warner. Thing was kind of sad,
you know, that was I mean to hear that story,
that was.

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
I guess he got caught a rip tide end, yeah,
and out of it and didn't know what to.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Do and nobody could get to him. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Well yeah, those things pull, man, they pulled fast and hard.
You know, you just swim. You swim north or south
if you're you know, depending on who your ocean is.
But I think in Mexico would be north, north or south.
Rip died and and I think I think you're right
he was. He was in Costa Rica.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
It wasn't Yeah, but I mean it's the same difference.
It's just you know, it's it's it's kind of a
sad story there. I mean, other folks we talked about,
but gosh, guys, I I didn't even think about Chuck
ban Joni. I didn't realize, you know, I didn't. And
then he's just gone. He was an amazing musician, Chuck
ban Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Yeah, remember hearing from the the joke about him. He's
hanging out at Meglo mart right, you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
Know, oh yeah, the hill, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Joy at the Meglo Mark. Well, they're going to reboot
that series. Too, I think, which is gonna be kind
of interesting see him in their older age and king
of the hill. How'd they turn out? You know, Hey, ma,
I don't want to tell what'll tell you about my
buddy boom Hower.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
You you brought up, you brought up Paul Coogan. And
I don't think he was a I think he was
expecting to recover. He did a video and stuff like, yeah,
I'm just looking to get out of his hospital and
I want to get better. And next year he was gone.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Yeah, but he got to think. I mean he he
did a lot, a lot of hard drugs as far
as like steroids and other things are concerned, and of
course hard live life, I mean wrestling, you know, as
many days as he did throughout his life. You know,
probably did other other drugs and alcohol along the way.
Perhaps it takes a toll on your body, I mean
for sure. I mean, just just be just to be
that big and that many steroids. I mean, you're you're

(01:03:15):
killing your heart.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
You're speaking to somebody who grew up in Florida and
is vehemently opposed to drugs. I think it's the most
disgusting thing people could do in their life. You get
these teenager running round from whatever they want to in
their bodies. Man, these things are having ill effects on
their bodies, their bodies in weird ways, and they have
no idea about it. Then you get up into your
thirties or so many people that you went to high
school complete total burnouts. You're sitting there talking to him

(01:03:37):
and it's like thirty secondsuntil they can respond because they
can't process information anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Sure, oh yeah, many people like that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Well, I'm still stuck on all these celebrities deaths this year, guys.
I mean, in fact, you know, it's like because we
watch things when we grow up and they become part
of what we experienced. Like I mean, I was a
huge fan and I have all the seasons on DVD,
and I watched on the streaming Hogan's Heroes, you know,
I love that show. And of course Bob Crame was
the first to go when it was murdered in the
nineteen seventies. But Robert Clarey was the last original cast

(01:04:10):
member of The Frenchman who passed away. I think last
year Robert Clay Lobau Corporate Lobau, but the last to mind,
I was the last cast member passed away on July eighteenth,
just a short time ago, and that was is it?
Washington was his first name, Kenneth Washington. Yeah, Kenneth Washington

(01:04:30):
was eighty eight years of age. He joined the cast
in the last year and came on the show of
Hogan's Heroes. But so he would be the last one.
And wow, can you imagine that the show started in
the sixties and the last cast member just passed away
almost in the mid twenty twenties.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
It's crazy, right, that's wild, great, great show. And the
humor holds up in my book, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Oh, it absolutely does. And what's so funny about it's
I think hilarious is that?

Speaker 7 (01:04:55):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
For instance, Colonel Clink was a German Jew who left
the country very outed actor. He refused to play the
role unless they allowed him play a buffoon. He wanted
the Colonel Click to play a buffoon. Then John Banner
his name was Johann was an Austrian Jew who played
Sargan Schultz. Lebau is a French Jew. The show was
full of Jews, and it was making fun of the Nazis,

(01:05:17):
of course, who were famous for trying to exterminate the Jews.
It was just a brilliant show. You couldn't do it today.
Maybe today with Trump back in office, but two or
three years ago, with Biden and the wokeism, it was
just it couldn't be done.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
And you think about it, you could honestly insert you know,
let's say it could be a spoof of say Saddam
Hussein's people, you know, something like that. You could have
done it during that time with spoofs of Saddam and
just replace the characters with modern people. It would work.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Yeah. Absolutely. And then we lost Connie Francis recently. My goodness,
she was eighty seven. She passed away. It's just it's insane.
I mean, look, this is the natural part of what
David Gerdon died. I didn't realize that he passed away.
The political analysts, he just passed away.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember him.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Yeah yeah. It's it's I mean, it's an natural part
of life. People come and go. But a lot of
big names that we know have really seemed to pass recently.
It's just really a surprising. You know. The Australian actor
Julia McMahon passed away at the age of fifty six.
He had cancer. He died in July fourth. That's uh,
I mean, it's just Michael Madsen died this year, right,
It's Jimmy Swaggert. Man, It's just it's so many people.

(01:06:22):
It's just, uh, look, I don't I don't mean to
bring anybody down. I'm just saying that, you know, it's
just a lot of big names have gone this year.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
A sudden It's not like it was spanned out over
a long period of time throughout the year. So there's
a lot of people in a sudden, short period of time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
But people that are well known. Bobby Sherman just died
in June. He was eighty one. My goodness. Didn't realize
it was that old.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
You think about an entertainment industry, if you will, sports
and entertainment, it's you grew up with people and you
see him as a certain age set and you don't
realize that they're getting old with you at the same time.
You know, I remember Haul Cogan as you know, the eighties,
slim and under the Giant. I got to see that
in person, and to me, he never got older than that,
you know, but obviously he did, because I've got.

Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
He kept well, he kept us physique really well. I mean, yeah, yeah,
he kept USHYZ really well. So he's very identifiable even
up until he died.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
You know, guys Brian Wilson, right, yeah, right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
I got to see him in concert a couple of
years ago. I got to see the Beach Boys recently.
Uh So, it's kind of kind of interesting to see
those guys get older. And the course, I think whenever
they play, I don't know about they're singing so much,
but there they're playing sounds really great.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
The instruments, yeah, no, I agree with hundred percent. Slash
Stone speaking playing instruments. Slash Stone passed away. I mean,
it's it's been a it's been a tough year for
famous names. I mean people are going and these folks
at all ages, a lot of older folks, but people
at all ages. But we still got some very well
known folks that are they're still out there. Dick Van
Dyke is still kicking it. He's ninety nine. That's awesome

(01:07:50):
and very very cool guy to see. Dfandyke got there.
A lot of other famous names out there. Bar Eden
is still out there. She's still floating around. Beautiful lady
uh oh yeah, yeah, she's up in years too, and
she's barber eating is the epitome of grace. I mean,
you know, what a beautiful lady. But I mean it's
just it's you know, as you were getting it there, Todd, Todd.
These are names you grew up with, and you don't
really realize that they're getting older. You may realize you're

(01:08:13):
getting older, but they're getting older.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
Right, I mean, we're looking at that old man in
the mirror. Tell them to move. I'm trying to clean
up here. You don't get out of them away with me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
I mean, you know I've been I must have got
caught in in a gypsum windstorm there because something turned
my hair from strawberry blonde to this to this this
gray and silver silver equal color here. But no, it's
just it's it's I mean, look, it's part of life,
and it happens to everyone throughout time, but it just
seems to me this year it's hit me really hard.
And maybe because I'm fifty nine again this year, maybe
that's why it's hit me hard.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
But watching all these days, you're stuck on fifty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Are you? I'm stuck on fifty nine. I was stuck
on twenty nine once for eleven years, so there's a
precedent for this for ears. Well, you guys don't know
that story. So it's uh my mother, Yeah, yeah, so
you do know that story. She used to call me
up on my birthday. Yeah, so anyway, but yeah, I
got stuck on twenty nine for eleven years, and I'll
probably be stuck on fifty nine for eleven years, so
we'll see how that goes. But no, just it just

(01:09:06):
it's kind of struck me, especially in July. All these names,
I mean, the hul Cogan, Ossie Osborne, Countie Francis just
boom boom boom. But the one that really was like wow,
Malcolm Jamal Water, it just here today and gone tomorrow.
And it just makes you think about how precious life
is and how quickly can just appear. You know.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
That's the funny thing about getting older. I noticed that
we just Todd dow him too. We just lost somebody
who was relatively famous in the trucking industry. As he
was a musician and he was good. He's a good musician.
He was a really great guy. And you look at
all these people that have passed through the course of
your lifetime, you realize, hey, I'm really kind of lucky
to still be here. I'm only fifty six years old,

(01:09:45):
but relatively speaking, there's a lot of people that have
passed before me that I went to school with. You know,
So you're right, because you think about that, you give
that to some real consideration. You know, when you're a
young buck, you think about, yeah, I'm going to tear
the world up. You're ready kick everybody's butt on the
street and all sorts of stuff. When you get older,
you're like, no, I respect life better than that. I
respect people better than that. Now I don't want to

(01:10:06):
sit down with people anymore. You start to realize it's
just it's too fragile.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Well yeah, it's not just that, but you know, the
people that have an influence in your life that you
don't even realize, you don't think about, like you know C. W. McCall, conboy,
you know, I mean, I now just what it was
just three years ago. We were talking about the past
three years ago. But he was ninety three, I mean,
you know, and I hadn't even thought about him and
his name in decades, but that song still was in

(01:10:31):
my head, still influenced me. I still thought about it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
Part of that, too, is is we remember him from
the nineteen seventies more than we when we've seen him,
when we've seen the physic and stuff, it's back from
the eighties. Save when we have an inperate in our brain,
that's what he looks like. We don't realize his age.
We don't think about him his age, and that's that's
the imprint in our brain.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Well, I think he got a good point there, because
I'm still thinking of Olivian neutron bomb. That's what I'm
thinking of later in life. But I got to tell you, guys,
got to tell you I did go to Shania Twain
concert on Saturday night, and that don't impress me much. No, no, no,
the concert did impress me. Ladies fifty nine, she's kicking it.

(01:11:08):
She looks like she's twenty nine out there, which is
when she became famous thirty years ago. Yeah, thirty years
ago is when she made a big around ninety five
time frame, and she's still out there. And it was
a great concert. You know how you heard it. You
know people's complaining she lipstick at concerts. Maybe she did,
But I'll tell you what. In Hershey Park on Saturday night,
she w wasn't lip syncing because their voice cracked a
couple times, and that's pretty obvious. It was live, but
it was a fantastic performance and she was a wonderful performer,

(01:11:31):
really enjoyed it. And you know that's the thing too,
is so I've gone to not the last time they
do it, but I've gone to concerts to catch musicians
just before I never get to see him again. So
I called Barry Manilow in his last tour, but it
wasn't his last tour. He was in the seventies. I
caught Van Morrison at the Outlaw of Music Festival a
couple years ago. He's already in the seventies and he

(01:11:51):
was still killing. So I've caught Shani Twain a bit younger,
fifty nine, and then also caught Jeezus to got Peter Frampton.
Peter Frampton it was his tour because here's some kind
of motor neuron disease and he wasn't able to play
guitar anymore, so he announced was his last tour. Went
all the way up to upstate New York to watch
that concert. So it seems like and I caught Hall
of Oates before they got in a bickering contest, and

(01:12:13):
it kind of stopped working together a couple years ago.
Out of all places, Philadelphia, which is his hometown for.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
Them, Yeah, Conan Hawaii.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Yeah yeah. Well, I don't know when you saw him,
but I saw him in their seventies and they were
still awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Yeah, I mean maybe ten years ago or so.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Todd, Hall and Oates are in their seventies, almost eighty years.
I mean, Magnum p I is eighty. What's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:12:32):
Yeah, yeah, nineteen eighty was a while ago there, Chris,
I think about that too. Sometimes forty five years ago.
Oh crap man.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Yeah, Tom Selleck was in his thirties whenever he was
playing Magnum though.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Remember he's eighty now. I keep hoping he makes it
to ninety. Saying to a couple more of those Jesse
Stone movies. I love those movies. I watched them one
hundred times.

Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
You know what's funny is if you're in the cars
and stuff and they had to mas some cars way
back in the day. You know, you go back to
the eighty nineties and stuff, and you don't think about
it till somebody says, oh, yeah, the old classics were
pretty good back in the day. You're like, oh crap.
You start looking at new cars, you go, yeah, I
guess cars really have changed. They've evolved a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
And they weren't classics. They were just cars.

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
They were just one drove them. Hey, some of them
old nineteen sixties cars. Man the hot rods and stuff,
souping them off and lifting them and putting the fat
tires on them, and yeah they were something.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
You know. Well, I mean, the time goes quickly, guys.
My Toyota four Runner just passed inspection today again, and
I still haven't gone hundred thousand miles on. It's getting close, though,
about ninety four thousand. I bought that in two thousand
and four. It's twenty one years ago. My goodness, that
truck has been all over North America. It has been
in South Africa, Botswana, Namibia, Swaziland, Uganda, Ethiopia, Germany, Austria, Italy, Belgium, France, UK.

(01:13:52):
It's been all over the world and it's still kicking
because they still made trucks properly back then. They made
se us properly, steal and parts and you know, and
and reliable engines and it's got to be eight in it.
But these days you go get you try to get
a four runner all you can get the six cylinder
because these cafe standards and trying to reduce emissions and stuff.
But you know, I was back in the day before
the government intruded in our private lives and forced us

(01:14:13):
to buy dumbed down cars that don't have any mojo
behind them. I mean when I hit that, when I
hit that accelerator and that V eight, it's like it's
like it's like, you know, it's a space ax man
launching off that Boca Chica platform. That thing still goes
pretty impressive. But all right, enough of that, guys, we
do we're talking about on.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
The horizon because they are talking about rolling back a
lot of regulations, good VPA regulations. Man, we might actually
see some opportunities to get rid things like DA fluids
and pickup trucks. And I'm not saying it's gonna happen.
I'm just saying the possibilities there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Well, let's hope. So but let's okay, that way the
down memory lane and talking about people who've left the stage.
Let's let's talk about someone I want to leave the stage.
Jerome Powell. The FED refused to lower interest rates again today. Sorry,
there's a net flying around in my studio. I'm not
going crazy here. For the guys watching, I'm just trying
to kill his neck.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
He's like waving random So.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
When they come for you, Chris go quietly no. But
so the Federal Reserve person, I'm not very fond of
Jerom Powell. They decided not to lower interest rates again today.
Do you know that the United States, on major industrialized
country the world, has almost the worst prime lending rate
at four and a half percent. Everyone else is is
two percent or less. And our economy is still growing
like gangbusters. We're still adding jobs despite the tariff threats,

(01:15:37):
despite the interest rates being high, and people don't I mean, look,
unless you're buying a car or a home, most people
don't pay attention to A four point five percent prime
lending rate means that most borrowers are going to mean
six or seven percent interest because they're not they don't
have sterling credit to buy a home. A six percent
interest rate for a mortgage is well over one thousand
dollars a month, more than one just a point or

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two lower. It's insane how much money you have to
pay back. And I think a lot of people just
remain ignorant to that and don't understand it. The Federal
Reserve is harming our economy and Jerome power is stubborn.
There is growing dissatisfaction Todd inside the Federal Reserve system
with Jerome Powell, not just Donald Trump. Of course, Donald
Trump had his way, power would be gone. But his
time is almost up, and it seems like he's helpent
on destroying America's economy and crippling it and making people

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suffer before he leaves office.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
So you make good points, but isn't there was it?
The FOMC is a committee that has to do analysis
and based on the economy and stuff, and as a
committee to make the decision to lower and increase rates.
And so Jerome Paul can't just arbitrarily do this on
his own.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
I think he might be.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
I think he does have that power. I have to
do it on his own.

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
I don't believe he can just arbitrarily do. I think
he has to go through the committee. But the question
is can he bring forth the committee have a meeting
on this thing and do something within thirty days.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Well, the committee does have to vote, but he has
the influence and he won the day despite the fact
there's people on the committee now they're opposed to it,
but not enough. So look, I mean they bring all
the Reserve Bank governors together from all the country, Kansas
City and all the other places. They get yeah, and
they vote on this, and look, they're harming our economy.
And I don't know what their objective is here. Look,
I mean, if they hate Trump, fine, take out a

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full page banner, take out a billboard, tell everybody you
hate Trump, but don't harm the country. Because look, we
also have something silly going on now too. We have Canada, Norway,
the United Kingdom, and France. They're going to recognize the
terror state of Palestine. They're going to recognize a terrorist
run country because they hate Donald Trump. That's ridiculous. They're
gonna upset decades of international relations and diplomacy to recognize

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a terror state. Why because they hate Donald Trumpily.

Speaker 5 (01:17:41):
That they hate Donald Trump too, if they're supportive to
the political left, they want to make Donald Trump look
as bad to a publican party look as bad as
they can for the next presidential election, or we got
a midterm election coming up here next year's gonna start
campaigns and if it looks good for the political left
or the midterms, and they can tip the scales and
the ball in the House.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
In the Senate, well, there's a lot of talk about
the Republics going to lose the House. That's what the
media wants us to believe. I have no idea what
it looks like on the ground. It's difficult to keep
track of four and thirty five congressional races. You after
a lot of the media research they have the people
who do that, or you have to be working for
a policy organization to know that thing. So I don't
even have any feel whatsoever what's going on. I do
that the Democrats are losing their minds because the Republicans

(01:18:22):
are redistrict in Texas and they're going to lose five seats.
But you know what, nobody lost their mind when the
Supreme Court of Pennsylvania illegitimately overturned the registricting of this
state and reverted back to a previous version that cost
the Republicans the House representatives under Biden, and nobody talks
about that. We went from we had twelve Republican representatives

(01:18:43):
and six Democrats, and we went to where it shifted
to where we had nine and nine, So that means
that it doesn't sound like much. We lost three Republicans
to take it down to nine, and they gained three Democrats.
That's six. The entire difference in the House represented in
the previous Congress was Pennsylvania longe of six Democratic seats
because they went back to a different difference. And the
reason I said it's illegitimate is that this was done

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during election year. This was done after the primaries in
many in many states around the country. This was done
affecting elections in this state. It was wrong. You have
people who are campaigning for congressional seat in districts in
Pennsylvania and the borders were changed after they spent money
and resources knocking on doors, raising money, campaigning places, and
then a few months before the election, the Supreme Court said, no,

(01:19:28):
you have to go back to what it was ten
years ago. And that's where we're still at. And if
it wasn't for that, the Congress would not have been
Democrat and body wouldn't have been get anything passed because
the House would have stopped on every turn. This is
how they steal elections, This is how they steal democracy.
Redistrict in Jerryman. He is a horrible thing. Texas doing
it now and they're up in arms, But they weren't
up in arms when Pennsylvania overruled, overruled the legitimate decision

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for the district of the state. And now we have
these bizarre districts that don't make any sense. My representative
went in a district where he was and it wasn't
based on where the voters were. It was based on
geography and culture and alignment that district was for. From
that way, he went from a district in which he was,
you know, two thirds of the voters were Republican, to
one in which only about fifty two percent Republicans. And
he's in a tough spot for re election and that's
and so if he loses, then it's it's going to

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be eight Republicans and we're down now it's going to
be nine. You know, we're down to seventeen seats, so
it's going to be nine Democrats. But look, it's uh,
this is that they got. They're up in arms. They're
todd that the Democrats are losing their minds of what's
going on in Texas. But when they did it in
Maryland and stole and it reduced the Republicans. It was
it was like seven and six Democrats Republicans the redistrict.

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One Republican seat left because they jerry mannered. They took
people who lived in PG County, Prince George's Montgomery County,
they had nothing to do with the people in Western Maryland,
and made a little sliver a couple of miles wide.
They ran up the state along the Pilmic River and
connected it to the district. Then had Western Maryland and Frederick,
and suddenly those people in all of Western Maryland were
out numbered by PG Montgomery County and it went Democrat

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and that was the last Republican ever served up there.
This you know, when the Democrats do it's okay. When
Republics do it, suddenly it's it's im moral, it's writing,
it's anti democratic.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
Yeah. I would suggest to the folks in Texas redistrict
it and go forward with it. Don't sit there and
allow any state Supreme Court or any any judge shopping
to go on, because eventually this will probably go to
the US Supreme Court, I imagine, because you know, the
Left's going to go out and probably through the left
coast and probably file a lawsuit out there, and they
were issue an injunction I imagine, and then it'll get

(01:21:24):
sent to the Supreme Court at some point. But here's
the thing, redistrict, pushback and move on and hopefully you
can get past the next election before they can actually
rule on it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Well, I agree one hundredercent with what you're saying there,
but that's I mean, so seriously up in arms. By
the way, uh, John, what you were talking about there
with the Free Federal Open Mark Committee, the vote was
ninety two, so you know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:46):
So they voted to reduce all interest rates.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
But he well they're keeping it a range of four
point two to four point five, so you know it's
I mean, it's that's not a real reduction. They really
need to drop this thing a full basis point is
what needs to happen if they drop the instruments. First off,
the reason they raise inst rates is totral inflation. There's
no inflation. The numbers are below one percent annually right now,
that's not inflation.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
It's a way of regulating the market. Right. So, if
you got a market that's growing too rapidly and stuff,
you increase interest and to slow it down a little
bit to put on pump the brakes. If you want
to grow the market, because it needs to start growing
and it's not growing, then you want to lower into
st rates to get people in investing while the rates
are low.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
Well, there's lots of knockoffs to spinoffs, this whole thing.
But yes, generally speaking, the reason you raise insturrations is
to cool down an economy so it doesn't overheat. You
don't have rapid inflation. That's my point. We have no
inflation right now, so lowering it one basis point is
not going to spike inflation, and it will create more
credit availability for people who needed to expand businesses, to
buy homes, to buy cars, to juice the economy. So look,

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the Federal Reserve is supposed to be an independent body,
but I think they're in the pockets that people hate
this country, to be honest.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
More than likely. But the most interesting thing is is
not every but he follows the Federal Reserve. Credit unions
commonly are non members of the Federal Reserve. You got
digital banking things like that that aren't really members of
the Federal Reserve. So there are takeoffs. There are things
that can happen in this country well, the problem is
is for some reason people want to follow that benchmark
of the Federal Reserve that keeps the economy stuck.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. I'm not at a loss for
it right now. The higher interest rates, the more interest
I make off of savings accounts and deposits and things
like that. And the economy is growing, so it's not
hurting the stock performance, so it doesn't hurt me, but
it hurts the economy. So but you know, guys, when

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the radical lunatic Islamic fanaticist disguised as a marioral candidate
for New York announced he was running and then actually
won the Democratic primary because Eric Adams stayed out of it,
I said on that day people need to stop freaking out,
calm down, because this is going to make it possible
for Curtis Sliwa, the founder of the Guardian Angels running
is Republican, to win the race. And people like, what

(01:24:02):
do you mean? So, well, it's basically a four man race.
So the Democrats going to split the vote three ways
between Cuomo and Mandami and Eric Adams, and that will
mean that Curtis Slila could win this race with twenty
five to thirty five percent of the vote. Maybe thirty
five percent, so people scoffed at that. But I see
in the Washington Times today Kerrie Pickett, a well known

(01:24:23):
commentator of the political scene, is saying exactly that Republican
Curtis Sliwa banks on split Liberal vote business support to
captain New York City's mayor's office. Curtis Sliwa, the founder
of the Guardian Angels protecting citizens back in the dangerous
dark times in the nineteen seventies, could become New York's
next mayor. I think that's a fascinating situation. And I
hope that I'm right, because I always like be improved

(01:24:45):
right with my predictions. Todd any thoughts on that? No,
I think you're right. But at some point, what does
the left? What's the left going to do? Are they
going to play some tricks here?

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
They're going to make a deal one person drops out,
two people and they support the other person. I mean,
are they willing to do that? And I don't know
if if some of the people that are on there,
like Cuoma as an example, on Eric Adams, are far
enough left to support the leftist that's won the Democratic nomination.
But again, I don't know. They may not like the
Republican enough to do something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
I don't know. Well, we'll see, you know, this time around,
because he ran before and he got slaughtered by Adams.
But his rising poll numbers pride an opportunity to make
inroads with New York's affluent business community, which hasn't cold
us buying one candidate. It's skittish about Mandanmi. They're very
concerned about him. But being the Republican man out, it's
an advantage in this year's rased with three Democrats that
are running against each other. So when you slice in

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this case the orange, all three slides, all three slices
on their end are Democrats. So around Mamdani he's a Democrat,
and Racuoma's Democrat, and obviously Eric Adams a Democrat. So
Sleeva says, I'm the only Republican. It's still long shot,
but who knows. You know, if the vote splits four ways,
it doesn't take much to win. That's the thing about elections, folks.
You know, if it's first past the post, it's first

(01:25:54):
past the post. If you don't have to give fifty
percent to win, you know you've got a good chance.
I mean, if only he didn't, if only first passed
the post was the ruin in France, we would have
had a conservative in charge of France a long time ago,
and this lunatic Emanuel Macron would not be present. We
would have seen actually Marine la penn actually run that country.

Speaker 5 (01:26:13):
It's also possible that this race may come down to
the three Democrats, depending on the base there in the
New York City, Right, So if we're Republican and voting
Republican will appreciate Republican, isn't it possible that one of
those Democrats can take the lead on that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
Okay, well, I'm not sure where you're going, but let
me explain my point here. Okay, the Democrats are in
the ascendency, They have the majority of voters in New
York City. It's a left leaning city, unfortunately, but there
are plenty of Republicans in the city. Probably about twenty
five percent of the voters for certain are Republicans. So
if there are three Democrats and they're running, and they
each have a support base, and you know, mc donnie's

(01:26:49):
got the radical lunatics and the you know, the anti
American people, he's got them Cuomo's got the old blue
blood class who support you know, that political dynasty and
think he got rare his government even though I should
be in prison. That's all the story. And then Eric
Adams is a former cop. He's got support there. He's
very unpopular at the moment, but he still can pull
ten to fifteen percent of the base at a minimum.

(01:27:10):
And he's pulling Democratic voter, he's not pulled Republican. So
if Mom Donnie gets twenty five percent, if Kuoma gets
twenty five percent, and if Adams takes another twenty percent, Okay,
so that's that's fifty seventy percent at least thirty percent
on the table. If all the Republicans vote for Sliva
and he picks up a few votes here and there,
he's the next mayor.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
So he's counted on the undecided votes. So if there
are undecided votes on a bit unaffiliated voters.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
But the way I sliced this, it could go even
worse for the Democrats. It could be the Democrats could
get twenty five percent, twenty five percent, twenty five percent
for three cannons and Sliva gets twenty five percent plus
one vote. You see.

Speaker 5 (01:27:48):
Oh yeah, but I just think it's a long shot
because chances are these three Democrats are going to start
picking it up over the.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Well and what's what's going to happen. Here's gonna be
a lot of pressure for Eric Adams or Quoma to
drop out of the race, especially on Kloma drop out,
and there isn't any pressure at the moment mom Dining
drop It doesn't matter anyway. He's a lunatic. They want
to steal our cities. I mean, they want to steal
New York. They've got this lunatic Somali running in Innnianapolis
and talks about his fealty to Somalia, not to America.

(01:28:16):
This guy's a whack of dooodle. So we've got to
Islamist running to take over our two of our biggest
cities in the country. It's already happened in the UK.
Every major city in Europe. In the UK is run
by people who are alien to the country and who
form a minority, a small minority of the population. Why
people vote for these people that hate the country that
they're in and run it makes no sense to me.
It's just ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
Yeah, and a lot of this and I'll say this,
you know it goes to Republicans and people on the
right electing the same old people who play politics as
usual the way we played it for decades. You know,
where they get to win, they get the whole power,
but they're not really doing anything to count or the
left ascendency, you know, whether it's through culture, whether through civics,

(01:28:56):
whether it's through education or whatever. They're allowing carte blanche
or the left cart blocks much to be able to
do whatever, while they just can continue to fundraise and
hold power in their own little fiefdoms but do nothing
to really push back against these types of people. So
Republicans and conservatives got to get up and kick some
these old hand Republicans out of office and don't elect
them in the first place, or else. This is kind

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of what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
That's how these democrats got in there in the first place.
I mean, look at AOC. She unseated a you know,
a ten thousand year old fossil who'd been in office
for decades and he was unpopular because he wasn't moving
at the times, and so she acted like she was,
you know, erudite. She's anything by a rudite, and you know,
of course, but I mean look, we all know why
she want may come of guys, we all.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
Know everybody wants to date her and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
That's right, All the Republicans want to date for all
the clandestine Republicans dated for hoping to get a date,
hoping to get a date.

Speaker 5 (01:29:49):
But you know, Christ you made a statement about you
don't understand why these people are getting elected. And the
reason why is the term is emotional appeal. Right, So
you got these people having protest about Palestine and poor
pitiful Palistine. I've been picked on all these centuries by
the Jews, and all these people support the Jews. Well
the same time they're having this global infidel going on,
trying to attack everybody that's an Israel supporter. But they're

(01:30:12):
appealing to people's emotions. These people are buying into it
because they're emotional thinkers and they're supporting them.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
Well that's all fine and dandy, but what kind of
personalities person have that has those kind of emotions that
the supports terrorists and that falls for fake history. There
is no Palestine. Well that's the name the Romans applied
to Judaeus, Samara and provinces occupied by Jews for thousands
of years. When the Romans just virtually destroy the Jewish
comunity of the Yes Brush started. So the Palestinians are
simply Arabs who have picked up a name that was

(01:30:40):
given by the Romans, and they act like the Jews
are colonized. They're the ones that colonized. By the way,
if you look at the DNA of these people are
almost the same. It's just ridiculous. They need to knock
it off. There are over too many Arab Palestinians are
living in Israel who have the rights and privileges of
citizenship in Israel. They have Israeli passports, They serve in
the Kanessa, they serve in the IDF, they serve in
the police, They owned businesses, they practiced their faith as

(01:31:04):
Christians or as Muslims, some of them Christians, and they
lived perfectly fine. And that's the bottom line here. But
these radicals who refuse to participate in society and demand
things and then you know, resort to terrorism, and this
is what happens. So look, I don't have any empathy
for these people because it's historically factually incorrect and it's

(01:31:26):
a narrative that is harmful to everyone. No one is
served by this nonsense. Taking place in the Middle East.
You know, under President Trump, we reached the Abraham Accords
and got peace broke out all over the Middle East,
and the Biden's quandered all that. And now look what
we got just back when we had peace in much
of the Middle East until Obama became present, and then
he encouraged euarpe Spring, which led to the downfall of

(01:31:46):
repressive regimes, which led to slaughter killings. Isis all this nonsense.
Trump comes in office, isis is wiped out in four months,
He ends of nonsense, gets the Abraham Accords, gets historic piece,
the most the most historic peace agreement in the history
of the Middle East, and then comes back and destroys
it again. Now Trump's got clean up the mess once again.
You know, I feel for Trump. He's like he's like
he's like those guys for the mob who come in

(01:32:08):
and clean up the bodies after they kill them all
and make it all disappear like it never happened. That's
what Trump's still. He's the Cleaner's the clean right.

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
But but it gets blamed for the carnage that that
that caused all the problems, you know, But he's just
the guy cleaning it up. You know, he's not the
guy who pulled the trigger. He's not the guy murdered
anything like that, but he's going to get the blame
for it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
Yeah. Did you guys see that they that they have
given their report on the key takeaways from the air
crash that happened on the Potomac with the Blackhawk helicopter
and that commercial flight. They're saying that the Blackhawk may
have had incorrect altitude data and that is a contributing factory,
and that they never heard the transmission from the tower
that they were on the wrong flight path. M Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:32:50):
I thought that that issue about the transmission from the
tower that come on at the beginning, Dinitt, what's that?
I had thought that an issue about the transmission from
the tower that they hadn't heard the as mission.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
Well, it was speculation, but based on the black box data,
now they've they believe they confirmed it. So the helicopter
altitude readings that rely on barometric pressure were an early
focused in the three day Transportation Safety Board hearing on this. Yeah,
so the Safety Board said the black Hall helicopter was
flying higher than the two foot altitude ceiling on this
route along the Potomac as the airport. So it's the

(01:33:23):
possibility that what the crew saw was very different than
what the time the true altitude was. Yeah. Now, I
remember they were traveling at night, and there's a lot
of lights along the Potomac, not on the river obviously,
but and they're right next to Bowling Air Force Base,
a lot of light coming from there. And then of
course you're on the opposite side. You've got Alexandra over there,
and you've got you've got the airport and everything, so

(01:33:44):
there's a lot of light distractions. Plus if you're flying
down that path, which I've done, you're looking down the Potomac,
there are lots of planes coming at you in the distance, headlights,
you know, up in the air. So, uh, you know,
what a tragedy. But you know, initially the Trump administration
made comments alluded to a being a problem here, and
it appears that may have been a contributing factor. But
it also appears now that maybe they had bad information

(01:34:06):
and they didn't realize they were at that high in altitude.
But traveling and night I could see that if it
was daytime, no excuse, you should know in a helicopter
where you're at at nighttime, though, because of the reflection
and because you know, the lights. But whatever the case is,
I mean, I think it's brain dead. The airspace the
way they manage it over the DC metropolitan area, it's crazy.
I mean, Todd, I imagine you've flown in there. I've flown

(01:34:26):
into so many many times, and it's just it's it's
crazy because there's so much restricted airspace because of the
Capitol building, because of the White House. You just can't
fly with that stuff, and it's problematic. You know. What's
always found strange is that we had no fighter aircraft,
no interceptor aircraft located anywhere near Washington, d C. Throughout
the Cold War. We relied on jets at Langley Air

(01:34:47):
Force Base, which is some minutes away from there down
to Virginia, and when nine to eleven happened, they had
scrambled jets there. But we have aircraft on stripp alert now,
pilots that can be in the air in a matter
of seconds, twenty four hours day, seven days a week,
to intercept anything that the nation's capital, which is very reassuring.
We didn't have that before nine eleven. I think we're
living in the fantasy world.

Speaker 4 (01:35:05):
No, absolutely, And of course I think some of those
aircraft were participating in exercise right during that time, and
they weren't even armed. A couple of the first aircraft
that were on the scene, right if I remember all
the ones.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
The ones that came up there were they're already in
the air and they diverted up there. But you're right,
they had nothing. All they could have done is, you know,
try to force pet you know, fly close to them,
causing access something like that. Hey, so you know, President
Trump has been castigated for his reciprocal tariffs and oh, this,
that and the other. But the tariff body's coming in
and then we hear left to say, but consumers are
paying for it. But that's not what the stats tell us.
Inflation is under control, and they always fleation Maine's under

(01:35:37):
control is if if if the tariffs aren't being passed
on to consumers, which was one of my predictions. Depending
on the tariffs, the producers may eat part of it,
you know, or they may let the wholesalers eat part
of it, and everyone along the chain picks up a
little piece of the additional costs and then it is
pushed on consumers. And why would they do that, Well,
because gaining market share is very expensive. You know. It
takes a lot of time and effort to get a
piece in the market. And if you've got twenty five

(01:35:59):
percent of a market, you don't want to lose that.
And if you, if you, if you, if you suddenly
exit the market because the tariffs, you're not going to
get back in for cheap. So Trump has announced another
trade deal. This one went South Korea, yep, and it's
going to lower the tariff from twenty five percent to
fifteen percent, similar to what he gave to Japan. And
so they were desperate to get a deal. So South
Korea is going to invest three outd fifty billion dollars

(01:36:20):
in US and buy one hundred billion dollars worth of
lookified natural gas. Wow, that's that's a big deal. And
it's a big deal. So that's another one. So win.
All he does is win, win, win. There you go. Meanwhile,
Trump is laid it on for Brazil, guys. Oh ah,
the White House hit Brazil with a fifty percent tariff
and sanctions on a justice minister, a justice, a Supreme

(01:36:43):
Court justice for his investigations in the former present yard Bolsonaro.
So it is not looking united States on Wednesday, May
good on the threats to apply fifty percent tariffs to
Brazil two days ahead of schedule and slap sanctions the
Supreme Court justice overseeing the criminal case. Now, the reason
they slap sanctions on him is because he is a
lawless lunatic who has undermined free speech in this country,
threatened Twitter, fine Twitter with all this stuff because Twitter

(01:37:05):
wouldn't cooperate with his illegitimate request of banded speech in Brazil.
So they've gone after this judge, Alejandre de Moras, who's
whackadoital and now he's suffering sanctions. So fifty percent on Brazil.
Any thoughts on that one?

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
Todd, you know what, Hey, you're you're a whacko. Get
your judicial under under control. I know we have to
get ours under control, but we're not that out of
control for crime out loud. I mean, we're some of
the lefties are getting there, but for crime out loud,
not like this psychotic guy.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
Well, you know, the thing is is that if you
haven't got toilet paper, folks, you've been moved quickly. Because
during the pandemic were told he didn't have a toilet
paper because it was always coming from Brazil. Well, if
it's coming from Brazil, guess what fifty percent increase somebody's
going to beat dead costs.

Speaker 5 (01:37:48):
Fifty Still think gmp's manufacture plenty of it here in
the United States.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
John, I have no idea where our toilet paper's coming from.
I'm just saying that they tried to tell us the
reason the prices were so high is because it was
They say.

Speaker 5 (01:38:01):
A lot of things, Chris, they talk about on social
media while they're while they're delivering it all over the news.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
I know, all right, so, guys, a topic that I
really don't care about, but it's in the news. Jesse
Maxwell Justice Department talked to her and apparently they talked
to her about one hundred different people. There'll be a
lot of speculation about that. Is it Trump, is it Clinton?
Is it Obama? It's not Obama. He wasn't invited. He
and Big Mike weren't allowed to go. But who is

(01:38:29):
the one hundred people that jes say Maxwell's telling the
Justice Apartment all of this stuff about. Uh, somebody better
make sure that they have a camera on her and
someone physically within reach of her.

Speaker 4 (01:38:37):
Yeah, we'll have a camera on the other camera in
case it goes out right exactly, that's right. Well today
that that there wasn't an actual gap in the footage.
I don't know if that's true, but I heard a
story that, you know, there wasn't an actual one minute gap.
The thing kept recording and I don't know, maybe maybe
it was deleted.

Speaker 5 (01:38:57):
I never understood that. So they're they're they're claim as
it goes from one minute, what is it from eleven
fifty eight or eleven yeah, eleven fifty eight, one night
and reason, and they say it one minute. This is
the best part. This security system comes from nineteen ninety
nine and back in nineteen ninety nine. This is how
the security systems. You stop rate because they had to reset.
It took sixty seconds to reset. Why are you using

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a major facilities such as this, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:39:23):
On a high value target or yeah, you're using that.

Speaker 5 (01:39:26):
You're using like twenty five thirty year old equipment. This
doesn't make sense. All the billions of dollars we spend
every year, you never upgraded the security equipment and it's
a prison facility.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Give me a bit of that story.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
That's well, that's a way to get more more money,
you know, to for security upgrades that they can basically
take and spend elsewhere. You know, give us a billion
dollars st upgrade security, We'll spend ten percent on security.
Was ninety percent what we spend elsewhere waste.

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
I think back in nineteen ninety nine, didn't they have
like these DVR systems recording systems, and so maybe that's
why I had to reset, But I don't think so.
I think it would just overlapped, didn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:01):
Yeah, well, we have some that'll that will keep data
for so many days and it will rewrite older data.
I don't know if that's what they.

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Have, but we also had they have the ability to
instantaneously upload this to a cloud server and store it
there forever. You know, it's just look, I mean, I'm
not a conspiracy theorist. This whole Max Epstein thing is
pretty bizarre, but I would keep an eye to saying Maxwell.
For safety speaking, I.

Speaker 5 (01:40:24):
Gotta tell you, nobody's gonna nobody's gonna asassinate somebody in
sixty seconds, get all the way down there, hang the guy,
and then come running back up in sixty seconds. I
don't think that's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
Yeah, And John Fuels the conspiracy theory.

Speaker 4 (01:40:36):
Yeah, but regardless, even if he did kill himself, you
know the fact that you had that one minute gap,
you know, and now if you had a video that
showed him in there rigging something up and he killed
himself and then there's a one minute gap, I could
be like, Okay, he killed himself. You can clearly see
setting up to do it. We didn't. We didn't quite
get the the the the instant, instant moment. But whatever,

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why don't we have a camera right on that guy's sale.

Speaker 5 (01:40:59):
I mean, just say, I thought they were supposed to have.
They said it malfunction, but I think we swept the
carpet up from underneath Christ's feet on this.

Speaker 4 (01:41:06):
But yeah, no, but I'm there's there's too much to it,
and all of a sudden, you know, there's a hundred
hundred names that they that he talked about. You know,
I get you can't necessarily re lease names or a
list until somebody's you know, investigated, tried, convicted, et cetera.
But the fact that you're saying there's no list, I don't.
I don't buy that.

Speaker 5 (01:41:25):
There has to be some Every businessman keeps a record,
bro every businessman legal or not legal. They always keep
records are going to.

Speaker 4 (01:41:33):
Regardless of what anticipated anything illegal or not. Besides the point,
there is a list obviously, yeah, and and you're even
if it's a contact list with his own personal notes
in there, you.

Speaker 5 (01:41:45):
Know, right, so there was something. It may have been destroyed.
Who knows, Maybe they didn't collect it. I mean, the
Biden administration edit for four years. It could have destroyed
it for all we know. But the fact of the
matter is they had video recordings of all these people
because this guy was supposed to be spying on people.
If you're spying on book and use it it for leverage,
you got a list.

Speaker 4 (01:42:04):
And there's a few videos that we have seen in
some pictures of saying that shows Bill Clinton getting a
nice little BackRub by some you know, maybe not an
underage girl, but for certainly close to underage girl, you know,
at like a little airport there, you know, and it's
like he's getting a nice shoulder rub, and there's certainly
a picture of that, and he doesn't dispute.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
It, you know. Well, yeah, my intent was to go
down this lane. And my is that there's maybe one
hundred names being announced. We'll see if what the Justice
Department does with that. It should be interesting. But I
do want to shift before we run out of time
tonight and talk about an unintended consequence of the tariffs,
a legitimate concern that people should have. And I'm not
here to defend fort Motor Corporation, but they swung from

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a profit last year to a loss this year, almost
entirely because of the impact of tariffs. Now Ford Motor
Company is fond of saying that the cars manufactured America.
Maybe true, but guys, the steel and aluminum that they're
using a lot of it comes from overseas, which was
hit with tariffs, as well as the parts which were
produced overseas. So until those parts manufacturers are re instituted

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here in America, they're going to keep paying tariffs. And
they ate the cost of the tariffs, they didn't pass
it on to consumers. So Ford went from a one
point eight billion dollar net profit last year to a
twenty nine million dollar loss this year. They lost eight
hundred million dollars for tariffs. And members of Congress are
Chris Coons this Wackerdoinal, Connecticut senator on television earlier today saying, well,
the problem is consumers pay the price up. Fords are

(01:43:26):
actually cheaper than they were a year ago because you
can get the employee discount. So but still, I mean,
that's that's a huge Maybe maybe we need to carve
out an exception for companies like who manufacture things in America,
like Ford, for royal materials like steel and luminum. If
you're using if you're importing to steel aluminum and it's
not available in America and you have to import it
to build cars, maybe you get an exception. You don't

(01:43:47):
have to pay the tariffs. Now the parts, I mean,
that's on you. I mean, if you get your alternators
and your spark plugs from Taiwan are from you know,
from China because you off shore, then you're paying the tariffs.
But if you bring it back here and make the
stuff here then will be okay.

Speaker 5 (01:44:00):
Good John, Oh No, I was thinking when you said Ford,
because I remember Ford had donated what a million dollars
or something of that Trump's inauguration, and I'm thinking, well,
there goes the whole thing about the president of protecting
his buddies that paid for pay his way and stuff.
But you're right on the being able to adjust to tariffs.

(01:44:20):
What was the other thing.

Speaker 4 (01:44:22):
Yeah, but a million but I lost it. But a
million dollars essentially buys you a meeting or two. That's
about it this day and age.

Speaker 5 (01:44:29):
Right, right, can imagine what Trump makes per minute? Uh,
you don't have that kind of fund. You're not get
a meeting.

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
Right. It sounds a lot like Austin powers. Uh one
million dollars, doctor, doctor evil, doctor evil, that while you're asleep.
There's no inflation, So one one billion dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:44:46):
Oh, to your point, Chris, Trump was vying for steel
manufacturing the US. Again here I get that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
But but but I mean, if if new core and
the limited number seal process we have are right a
full production capacity, applying tariffs to harm the car manufacturers
actually making cars in America is counter productive? Is my argument?
May make an exception. I mean, because if you want
to increase steel production America, unless you've got plants that
aren't operating in full capacity, you can't do that into

(01:45:17):
a new steel plant it's built. You can't build a
new steel plant to your environmental approval. You get a location,
you invest a couple billion dollars in capital, and it
takes a couple of years to build it so applying
a tariff to steel and aluminum while we wait for
plants to be manif to be built. I mean, Trump
could do this while we lack the capacity. We will
give an exemption for those aluminumus in that steel if

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it's used by you know, to manufacture something here in America.
And when that production capacity comes align, then those those
waivers will be eliminated and you can pay the tariff
or you can buy it from Americans. That's a more
balance approach.

Speaker 5 (01:45:49):
Yeah, it makes sense, no that we we've had this
discussion in the back that the prison has the flexibilities
to do such things. Sometimes it's a matter of tweaking
a mode. I suppose somebody needs to bring it to
his attention and hey, it's detrimental over here.

Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
Yeah, no doubt about that. Well, guys, we're rapidly running
out of time here this week, and we had a
break there where we were actually weren't able to do
a show one night. And then Todd wasn't here. I
wasn't here. Tod wasn't here, Ty wasn't here. I was here,
Ty wasn't here. I'm just teasing because I'm the one
that usually travels a lot and in fact, guy's just
a heads up for the audience. I will be traveling

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soon once again. I'll be off to the United Kingdom
from the seventeenth of August until around the eighteenth or
twentieth of September, so I'll be there and that's a
five hour difference, so I'll be able to do at
least the first hour many of the times while I'm gone.
But I will be overseas covering the Women's Rugby World
Cup which is taking place in England.

Speaker 5 (01:46:42):
Oh wow, I was gonna say, it must be rugby season.

Speaker 4 (01:46:45):
Yeah, and you knew it was rugby. But and it's
women's rugby, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:46:48):
Not do they dress in lingerie like they do here
in the United States.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
No, it's it's not the Ladies Launder League for the
Lingerie League for football. It was a thing that was called.
I used to watch that in reruns, But no, it's
the USA women actually were ranked fourth in the world.
So I went to the Women's World Cup in Paris
in twenty fourteen, and then I also went to the
Women's World Cup in Ireland twenty seventeen. The reason it

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was three years difference is because World Rugby decided that
kind of like the winner in Summer Olympics. You can't
have them, you know, at the same year, so they
offset them, and so they decided to do that. So
the women had one in fourteen, and then they had
another one seventeen because the men had won in eighteen
or excuse me, nineteen nineteen. So every two years, so
every two years you have a World Cup women and
men's and so this one. The twenty seventeen was in Ireland.

(01:47:35):
That was a pretty amazing one, and twenty twenty one
was in New Zealand. I had tickets which I purchased,
but I was unable to go because they didn't lift
their lockdown stands till three weeks before that, and they
delayed it for a year because there were cowards to
twenty twenty two. But I also had tickets to go
to the Rugby League World Cup and that was delayed
for years. So the twenty twenty one events were held
in twenty twenty two and they ran right into a
twenty twenty two event. The sevens Rugby World Cup was

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in Cape Town in twenty twenty two, and I was
going to that, so I couldn't do all three. So
I had to drop the Women's World Cup in New Zealand,
so I missed that one, so I'll be back for
the Women's World Cup here. The USA women in Ireland
were fourth in the world. Now they're ninth. They've dropped
quite a bit, which is interesting because now the press
is in love with one of the players, who's not
the best player they ever had. They seem to be
in love with her. I don't know why they've had

(01:48:18):
better players. I don't know. Maybe it's racism because the
better players were black, they didn't really cover them.

Speaker 4 (01:48:23):
Are you going to be covering as well as just
a tending as a fan?

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
Yeah? I do. I do record a material that I've
got from there. I cover it and report on this stuff.
I'm actually writing stories for the local newspaper about it,
just to introduce people of the game. So yeah, so
that's what I do, and I go as many games
I can. But the women's is organized a little bit
different than the men's as fewer teams and so the
opening game is England versus the United States, and I
have a ticket, so I'll be there.

Speaker 4 (01:48:47):
Where are they playing at?

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
All over the country? As usual, these the events take
place all over and This one's weird because I'm a
geographic line running from north to south. From now I
go back and forth, but from one game in the
north in England down to the south almost in a
straight line. So whereas the Men's World Cups were all
over England in a couple of yars a weal. So yeah,
so that's that's this year, and so I'll be out

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of the net for a little bit and then i'll
be back. I have another trip up to Idaho later on,
but that that's a short one and I don't even
think i'll effect to Wednesday. I'm not sure I checked
the dates on that, but I'll bet i'll be here. Yeah. So, guys,
I don't know if you know this, but I just
came back from Alabama I mentioned earlier, and the reason
I was in Alabama is I went down there. CNN
flew me down to help facilitate an interview with one

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of the South African refugees who's living in America now,
and I also did a live broadcast with that refugee
before their interview with CNN. So that was pretty cool.
But I will say this, I could have driven back
faster from Alabama, Obama than flying back because it took
me thirteen hours to get home. I get home at
three o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 4 (01:49:45):
Oh yeah, what what was the hold up down there?

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
My initial flight was through Detroit, which was fine with me,
but it was five delays and eventually it just I
wasn't gonna make it. I miss my flight and be
stuck in Detroit. So they said take the Atlanta flights
leaving shortly, so I jumped in man of flight at
the gate next to it. They changed it up, give
me a good seat exit row, and then we got
on the plane as was going to plane and bad news, folks,
there's been a ground stoppage in Atlanta. So we sat
on the plane for three hours and couldn't get off.

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Then they finally took off a thirty nine minute flight.
We got to Atlanta. I got out and then had
a rush because all the flights would lay because of lightning,
I guess, and rushed from one end of the airport
to the other with my bum hip right now, got
the other side of the airport, and then we sat
there in the flight. It was supposed to be a
ten o'clock was delayed until eleven thirty. Then eleven forty five,
then midnight. Then after about eleven fifteen, they came out

(01:50:32):
and said, folks, we have a change. The plane was broken,
so we're taking you to the other terminal, which was
a place I started when I landed, and it was
two gates from where I never had to leave if
they just anyway. So then we got over there and
they said we'll leave at midnight. Then we sat in
a plane un till twelve forty five before we finally
took off. Anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:50:48):
Wow, yeah, well what an ordeal. But your ears staveing sown.

Speaker 8 (01:50:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
Look, I mean that could be a lot worse. You know,
the plane got there, so you know, thankfully they But
I mean we're the odds of having three broken planes
and then there's seven delays, you know, in one day.
It's pretty sucky. But that's air travel. It sucks. It's
unless you got your own plane. John Travolta, I'm envious.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
And you'll probably flying Nick Cage too with the face
off machine.

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
Oh my goodness. That's a weird, weird movie. Not the
best movie.

Speaker 4 (01:51:13):
But I love it when people post pictures of the
Nick Cage and'll be like, look at John Travolta today,
you know, because of the face.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. No, i'd I might
rather watch Corbyn. Dallas in the fifth Element. Uh yeah,
Lenlo Dallas, Landa Dallas, Multipas, multipas. Yeah yeah, they know, dear,
they know. All right, that's gonna do it for us
this week to my co host, thanks a lot to
our guest Gina. She was fantastic telling us about her project.
Except we'll be back with you next week here on
the Common Sexy Service. Till then, keep your ear to

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the ground and keep your wheels on the road. Cheers,
Bye bye,