The Common Sense Conservatives with Reed Bull

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters every Wednesday
evening from seven to eight pm right here on.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Bring you back to reality.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Now your hosts, Chris Wyatt, Todd McKinley, and John Golovin.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Look, Wednesday, folks, It's that time once again for the
Common Sense Conservers right here on as you just heard
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on YouTube, and elsewhere even on the Facebook. Well, gentlemen,

(00:55):
we're going to get into a tribute song here in
just a few moments that put together for Charlie Kirk,
going to talk about that event that's occurred since we
last spoke, and we'll spend a lot of time that
in the first hour, but a lot of big news.
President Trump is over here with me right now. No,
we're not Windsor Palace together our Windsor castle. He's a
Windsor cast for the evening and I'm just a few
miles from there, as We're both in the United Kingdom

(01:17):
this evening and the desperate, sad, pathetic losers who just
love to hate people demonstrated in London today a whopping
five thousand according to police estimates. I saw the crowd
look more like about five hundred, trying to overestimate the
size of this pathetic little crowd, much smaller and even
than the yahooso showed up to protests Unite the Kingdom event.

(01:38):
It took place a time of Robinson for the weekend.
Nother thing we talked about. But Todd, before we get
to that song, I want to say, how are you tonight?

Speaker 5 (01:45):
Oh good, colonel, Yeah, I saw that the President. Yeah,
he is over there. I guess he's confirmed with you.
I'm not sure if they're gonna knight you or something
while he's over there. What's going to happen?

Speaker 6 (01:55):
I get the Presidential metal Freedom.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
There we go there, take that.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
I almost thought for a moment that he was going
to give one to the King.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
I saw earlier because it was on the news here
live at Windsor Castle, that the King's speech, other than
delving a little bit into environmentalism, was pretty darn good.
Spoke to the long friendship between our two nations and
the irony of us breaking away turned fifty years ago
next year from the British Empire, and if our forebears
could see where we are today, it was brilliant. I

(02:26):
was really impressed by the King. I'm not a fan
of Charles the Third, but I was really I thought
he did a fine job. Whoever wrote speech for him
was brilliant. He delivered it very well. And then President
Trump had fantastic remarks. And either he used a super
tiny script or he was really winging and just held
a piece of paper to impress people. Because that was
a long speech for one page, he never flipped the
page once, whereas the King went through about fifteen pages

(02:46):
on his speech. Right, So, John, how's it going up
there in Nashville? How are you doing this evening?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
It's going good? Yeah, that's just like Donald Trump Man.
I've watched him do it where the teleprompter just stops
ruling and he just over there winging it, goes off script,
talks for a little while, he comes back on and
there he is back on script again, and it's kind
of oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
I've watched him at a number of events from behind
the scenes as a teleprompter operator stops, he just starts
talking for ten fifteen minutes, and then all of a sudden,
when the person's on the staff will say scroll to here,
he'll start back right here, and basically they'll cut out
like three or four paragraphs that he was going to
speak because he's already winging something, and then they'll start over.
They'll start somewhere else.

Speaker 7 (03:24):
Well.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
To be honest, guys, listening to the speech, it sounded
like it was a written speech, and he only diverted
from a couple times. What I'm saying is that he
never changed the page.

Speaker 6 (03:33):
I mean electronic.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Device that was scrolling as he spoke, because I mean,
that's a lot of a lot of words, and in
order for all that's been on one piece of paper,
the text must be like an average front.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
He must have incredible eyesight, but not a lot of
care got that.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, so, folks, which day was it was?

Speaker 8 (03:49):
It?

Speaker 6 (03:50):
Was it the tenth when he was assassinated. Do we
talk about this last Wednesday?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Just before our show about four o'clock, I think in the.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Right very briefly just before the show within three hours.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
We talked about this last last week. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
So, but we'll talk a little bit about tonight and
some of the developments on that. But before we get
into that, John h Under my guys as DJ Silver Eagle,
I came up with a tribute song to Charlie Kirk.
If you kee that up for the audience, I'm gonna
put my microphone on meat so I don't wheeze over it.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I will be glad to do that. But first I
must say I find it ironic that Chris Whyitet goes
to England, Trump goes to England and there it is
Jeffrey Epstein and Trump on the wall of the castle.
When I'm thinking to myself, that would only happen to Chris.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
I'm sure, I'm not sure what happened to me.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
But because your stance on Jeffrey Epstein and stuff, you.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Know, Yeah, well, I mean, look, they just released all
the files, and they'll never satisfy these people release all
the files. They just released them. I mean, you know
you can't release grand jury testimony. There's no there's no
probable value to that. So I don't I don't get
what these people want anyway. Have you got it ready?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Sure thing?

Speaker 6 (04:58):
Charlie stands on.

Speaker 7 (05:10):
Voice lack found, broke the sky.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
He spoke for truth. He dared to try.

Speaker 9 (05:22):
With courage, burden.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
Broadest flag.

Speaker 10 (05:29):
Charlie Kirk was more than just a name. They thought
they sidlence what he gave.

Speaker 11 (05:41):
But free speech doesn't find a great Charlie stands on
in the hearts of her bread, in the five bar,
freed of the road, pain go the charge trail.

Speaker 7 (06:03):
He's a bad old thing.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Charlie stands on in the lobby.

Speaker 12 (06:11):
May faith in his eyes, the form side, for family,
for values.

Speaker 10 (06:23):
He never lie the world gross qui for the coast,
Stay in every shtle.

Speaker 7 (06:34):
He left.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
The side, never far.

Speaker 11 (06:43):
He's a whisper the stars, O Lord, a fallen yet
standing tall, and every boy answers the co.

Speaker 7 (07:03):
Sharlie stands on in the hearts of the bay, in
the fat bar, in the roady Back to the capital West.
Here's a live Lon Bay.

Speaker 11 (07:22):
Charlie stands on in the love May, Charles stands on.

Speaker 7 (07:35):
Charlie stands on.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Shun stands on.

Speaker 7 (07:47):
Charlie stands on in the loving May.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
Parlie stands on.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Folks, I hope you found that enjoyable attributes on Charlie Kirk.
Was a little broken up there, but I'm broken up
for our nation. Obviously concerned about Charlie Kirk and his family,
but the horrors that befall people who call for discourse
and peaceful conversation. I was too small, although I was alive,
too small to recall the events that led to the

(08:21):
assassination of doctor Martin Luther King Junior or Bobby Kennedy,
both men who believed in peaceful discourse, and both men
who ultimately gave their lives standing for what's right, moral
and just. And Charlie Kirk, despite the demonization of him
by the left, the lives about him, calling him extreme
right wing, he was anything but extreme. Anyone who stands
up for the right to life. You know, I saw

(08:42):
today that a Sudanese group, a network of people were
given award by Norwegian organization for their defense of the
right to life.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
Well Charlie believed the right to life the unborn.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
They have a life, They're God's creations, and for that
he's been demonized as far right.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
Believing in protecting another life is not far right. It's
a traditional liberal value.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
And the disgusting stuff that's been said by a leftists,
many of them paying a price for their bad form
and their arrogance this past week is well deserved. It's
about time they were put on the back foot for
being disgusting, vile, repulsive human beings that they've been for
so long. And you know, guys, before going further this,
I just want to say, John Off, you saw this.
But the lunatic from Hawaii, which idiots continue to vote

(09:25):
in office in the Senate, Mazy Herono was revealed as
a fraud once again. Mazie Herono a few months back
attacked the Republicans saying that they were they were, you know,
not really defending women with Title nine. And we'll get
to our guest heres shortly, but not defending that. They're
just you know, it's all about power and corruption. It

(09:46):
wasn't about power and corruption for the Republicans. It's about
Title nine of protecting girls and keeping transgender athletes out
of girls' bathrooms, protecting them, you know. But then today
she was grilling cash Batilla the yeah, and she thought
she was clever and she said, well, here, yes, so
you've you've changed the physical.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
Standards at the academy. You have to do pull ups.
You do realize that women aren't the same, that women
are weaker physically. What excuse me?

Speaker 5 (10:12):
I thought, So, now we're speaking the truth here all
of a sudden, you're amazing.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
That's right, Mazy Mazy Daisy clueless.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Hereno left this propagandist and she's been exposed for she
belongs in the same boat with Hank Johnson.

Speaker 7 (10:25):
You know.

Speaker 6 (10:25):
Maybe you know if I guamb will capsize the marine.

Speaker 12 (10:29):
And I like that.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
General Kennell told him, like you kind of looked around
the room. He goes, Congressman, I don't think that that's
uh something we have to worry about.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
And he just kind of like the admiral, the admiral
from PEG.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
At the time, He's like, what is going on with
this guy?

Speaker 4 (10:45):
And we do have a guest tonight, folks. So I
just wanted to make sure we got that song out there.
And I just want to I had to mention Mazie
Herona because I'm only here for the first hour to
get that in.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
So who's going to introduce our guest? Sign is going
to be your John?

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Yeah, I'll introduced some so it's real. He is a
student Eastncy State University or ETSU in Johnson City, where
he's pursuing a degree in economics with a minor in
legal studies as a part of a prelog track. As
a member of the prestigious Roan Scholar Leadership Program, Read
has embraced opportunities to combine academics, leadership, and service to
make a tangible impac in his community and beyond working

(11:18):
on many projects. I want to go to the entire
bio that was more for the for the rest of
you guys, but Read, welcome to the common Sense Conservatives.
I know you're excited to be here. Uh, you might
be a little nervous. I'm not sure. Is this your
first time on a radio program? By chance and our
streaming show.

Speaker 8 (11:34):
You know, the last time I was on the radio,
I was at Seymour Hoschool doing sports broadcasting there, so
it's been a little while. Hopefully we'll shake the rust
off in the first couple of seconds here. But it
is a true honor to be with you gentlemen here tonight.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
There we go as always.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, sorry about that, Chad as welcome this evening. He
reads pleasure having you listen. I'm not convinced you from
from the volunteer state. I detect one of those Minnesota accents, y'all.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
For sure for me.

Speaker 8 (11:59):
Too, you couldn't tell by the accent that I was
born and raised here in Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Kid, you absolutely absolutely just have a little fun me
that break the isoltle bit there. So read you know,
I presume your young conservative here, and that's why we're
talking to you. The events of last week did it
shock you? I mean, are you involved with say, Turning
Point USA in any way, or or any groups that
are conservative groups where you're at?

Speaker 8 (12:27):
Yeah, So more directly to that question, you know, I'm
I'm I don't even know. I don't even really have
the words for it. For the the sentiment and the
hope that I have for Charlie Kirk's family, my heart
goes out to his his his widow and you know,
his kids. I mean, it just it breaks my heart.

(12:48):
You know, the rumor and stories we're still trying to
to to get some clarification on whether or not his
kids were present. I mean, I just couldn't imagine that horror,
and you know, I just really want to extend and
my heartfelt wishes for the best for his family, you know,
more directly here on campus, being our own scholar, I'm

(13:09):
working on an E. T. S U Elevates project right now,
and I want to invite the question to that project
more directly because we're seeing a lot of progress here
in the Tri Cities area, really for veterans. And I'm
partnering with Hattie's House of Hope. It's a nonprofit here
in Johnson City. They have a new development Commander. I'm

(13:34):
sure you know a lot about this. We've stayed in
contact trying to move things along. To Miss Lauren Schreiber,
he was the founder of Hattie's House of Hope, right
you know, I'm really enjoying the project and just trying
to move things along in the right direction.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Absolutely, Yeah, great deal. He's calling me commander because it's
the American Legion title, by the way, Colonel yeah, no.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
I picked up on that right away.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
I'd have to be in the Navy and I was
never making that big a mistake. But seriously, so you're
working with veterans. If I understand that correctly, then.

Speaker 8 (14:13):
Yes, sir, so I would say where I started working
with veterans was really you know, during the times of
Boys State and Boys Nation in high school. You know,
I've got to I've got to shout out Post one
O four in Severeville, Tennessee, for for getting me into
the American Legion and now a son of the American
Legion going to Boys Nation, which was really a week
that shaped a lifetime or hopes to shape a lifetime

(14:36):
for me, sir. And you know, working on veterans legislative advocacy,
as I'm sure we'll touch on here in the next
little bit. You know, I started this project, let's start
with Project three sixteen. This was last year, early November.
I was working with a student organization here at ETSU

(14:57):
trying to figure out what a an issue was in
the world or maybe just here locally to Tennessee that
we could legislate on. And that was really the objective
of that piece of legislation what passed through the House
and the Senate of this organization as a Monck government
and you know, I could really see where this piece

(15:18):
of legislation was needed given the events that Sergeant Jacob
Edward Bullen was put in in a Tennessee State Veterans home.
You know, we're trying to legislate on that, I understand
can be a slippery slope of sort, considering it is
a governor's program here in the state of Tennessee. However,
making sure that we have the legislative advocacy to say,

(15:40):
we see these veterans, in these veterans' homes, we recognize
the struggles that their families might face, and we want
to legislate on that. And I think I speak I
speak for myself most certainly as the one that wrote
that piece of legislation, but also now hopefully in the
role that i'm with the commander here, Todd McKinley, working

(16:04):
as the Department liaison and trying to build a piece
of legislation that's not only going to be, you know,
I would like to say, a catalyst, but also somewhat
of a moving point for the veterans here in the
state that are looking at Tennessee State Veterans homes and
more comfortability for them in their families.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
Serry did I understand you correctly? Did you say you
authored that legislation?

Speaker 8 (16:26):
Yes, sir, we're still in the drafting phase. That was,
you know, like I said early November of this past year,
you know, something more attentive. And I want to say
as now I'm working with a Department JAG officer on
something a little bit more comparable to state standards. And
also my experience being up in d C this past

(16:47):
summer as a American Legion intern with the Veterans Affairs
and Rehabilitation Division. Using that practical, real world experience to
legislate here at the state level will be crucial.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
It's a question because honestly, very few legislators in the
House of the Senate actually right the legislation. They rely
on K Street consultants to right legislation. Yeah, if you're
writing legislation, you're ted to age. You're probably well ahead
of your state and your federal legislators. So let's go
back here about a couple of things you mentioned as
some terms. And I think that you know, we have

(17:21):
an international audience too, and across the US. Not everyone's
familiar with some of these things. Of course I'm familiar.
I'm sure that Tod's a very familiar and even John
because these are things that were in our youth that
were available, but you talked about different since Boy State
you talked about that. Can you tell people a little
about that? And also people outside Tennessee probably don't what
to try the Tri City areas. You can tell with
this Tri City that region is just so people are familiar.

Speaker 8 (17:43):
Yes, sir, So let's start with the Tri Cities area.
I'm here at Etsu which is in Johnson City, the
Tri Cities, you know, Kingsport, Bristol, you know, almost reaching
in to Virginia. You know that piece of legislation. I
think to your question, you know, starting on that piece
of legislation was something that you know, I I don't

(18:06):
want to put this. You know it was you see
a need, you feel a need, colonel, And you know
whenever I started on that piece of legislation, I had
a phone call if I could with going into this
Boys State topic, I had a phone call with then
Department Adjudant James McLaughlin who brought me into Boys State
and said, you know, James, what what is something here

(18:29):
at a state level that needs to be legislated on
or could be legislated on that's not gaining enough attention.
And whenever he told me what had transpired with Sergeant Jane,
you know, Jacob Edward Bowling, I just really had a
hard time sitting back and letting that happen in my
community and in my state, I should say, But to

(18:52):
go to your point on Boys State, I would have
never known James McLaughlin without going to a Boy State,
I would have never known him. I would not have
the pleasure of working with the commander here. Sorry, you know,
I just really want to go back to this influence
influence in my life that Boys State has been for me.

(19:16):
And I'll speak more directly to what Boys State is,
but just the impact that Boys State had on my life,
that God allowed that to happen in my life, for
me to be here and to do the things that
I'm doing, has been beautiful and it's.

Speaker 9 (19:29):
Been an honor and a blessing.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
Absolutely agree.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
When when I was younger, I'm not sure how it
is now. I mean, I don't have any kids in school,
and I don't teach at the high school level.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
I've taught universe level.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
But when I was younger, we had things Boy State,
Girl State, and that's where you know, a slight number
of folks went and they learned more about the country
and civics and things like that. We also have things
like the Daughters of American Revolution gave an exam every
year and you could win the ward. I don't know
if that's still out there. And of course it was
mandatory to take CIVIS in June your high school at
American Government. In high school in your last year. Uh,

(20:04):
what's that like for your path as a young man?
Did you have civics Enjeri your high school? In high
school at American Government? Are those still things that are
required because every school district is different.

Speaker 8 (20:13):
Yes, sir, and Severe County, we do. And I'll go
further more furthermore on that subject of, you know, organizations
that are impacting our youth at the high school level.
You know, I had a friend of mine and he
is now in the Air Force Academy and he's wanting
to you know, he's going to be a pilot, and
he said, Rito, have you heard about the American Legion?

(20:34):
I said, you know what, Bryce, I haven't, but tell
me more about it. And so, starting this conversation within
a high school level, you know, it's not it's not
just important.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
It had.

Speaker 8 (20:45):
Those conversations have to happen for our youth to understand
the organizations that want to reach out, that want to
bring godly values to our youth. And that just was
so important for me to get into Boys State. You know,
you're you're mentioning, you know, the the Daughters of the
American Revolution. You're talking about Girl State, Boys State. I

(21:06):
would have never known without that conversation. And I think
that's just from a interal high school perspective. You know what,
what conversations are happening now in our American high schools.
I'm not sure I know the conversations that were happening
at our universities. You know, I would like to say that,

(21:27):
you know, other lives that were in my Boys State class,
the other men that were in my Boys State class,
you know, their lives were effective just as much as mine.
You know, if you have you know, let's say, Marshall
Blackburn come out and speak, if you have Governor Bill
Lee come out and speak. You know, the these these
political figures that you only see through a TV screen

(21:48):
that go to connect to our children and youth, which
is a pillar of the American Legion is also important,
but I would like to go this direction with a
boy's state program. You know, understanding c to your point,
more athlete cit you know, government and civics. Understanding the
rights that we have as American citizens. You know, the
how I guess how important the Bill of Rights truly is.

(22:11):
You know, I competed in the American Legion oratorical competition
where where we talk about UH or we speak about
the American Constitution and the Bill of Rights and why
that's so important to our youth and to our nation
and the rights that we have. You know, I think
that that's only enhanced here at the university level. As

(22:31):
Commander told you earlier. You know, I'm an economics major
with a minor and legal studies, and you know, I
have the great honor of being in class with some
really good philosophers as well as you know, the University
Council telling us about how we have individual freedoms and
rights here in the university as well as in the
state and in this country, and what that really means

(22:52):
to our youth and the UH. You know, I want
to say, our college students here at ET suck.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
And I'm expect.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Also, you mentioned some studying in legal studies. Oh, what's
what's your desire to study that? Is it to understand
economic law or business law? Or is it just to
give you a firm footing on society? I mean, why
why the focus on that. I'm curious because I was
a history major with German as a minor. But that's
because I was interested in German and I've been to Germany,
not not, not for any particular reason other than that.

(23:21):
So I'm curious about the about the legal studies that
where does that? Where do you see that playing a
role in your future?

Speaker 8 (23:26):
Yeah, so legal studies. I'm hoping to go to law
school after four years here at Etsu. I'm not sure
where quite yet, nor do I know what kind of
law I want to practice. You know, I'll say this, Colonel,
I would not I would not have said I'd be
sitting in this seat, having this conversation, having the great
honor being on this podcast with you to not you know,

(23:49):
that was just not a thought on my mind, you know,
a couple of years ago, and now God has brought
me to this point, and so I think it would
be inadequate for me to try to make a path
for myself whenever he might change that path. And you know,
I do feel a strong pull to go to law
school to pursue my j D. But I'm not sure
what I want to do with that yet. I've rambled

(24:10):
with the thought of becoming a JAG. I've thought about
going into constitutional law like the Speaker of the House,
Mike Johnson. You know, I'm not really sure what that
would look like in my future, but I do know
that I have a great passion for law debate and
of course talking as I'm sure you can understand from
this conversation.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
One thing was he was the Beta Club national president,
by the way, so he does he does have a
gift a gap by the.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Way, Well, it's it's that Minnesota accent. That's what it is.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
But there are a lot of people have been very
successful gone into constitutional law. Barroccu Sain Obama was a
constitutional law student. Ted Cruz, if a mistake, was also
constitutional law student. That's probably better exple that I only
understand of the law. It's fascinating how people can study
constitution law and not know the Constitution. But let me

(25:04):
ask you this question, read, I want to I want
to I want to come back at some point, and
maybe maybe Todd can or does this because you're talking
about a Sartain boweing and something happened. It was a
start and bowing in Tennessee. And I don't think most
of us familar with that story. So let's let's put
a pin in that for a secondment. I want to
come back that and not forget about it, But I
do want to ask you what's the mood like on campus?
I mean, I haven't been on a campus in some
time here. When I was teaching postgraduate was at the

(25:26):
Army Work College, not exactly a college campus, but it
is a postgraduate school.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
What is the mood like in East Tennessee?

Speaker 4 (25:32):
I mean it's you know, a lot of schools, things
are very far left no matter where you find yourself
on campus. Some places like you go to Liberty University,
it's it's very much conservative. Place you go to Hillsdale
College is very conservative. What's it like in East Tennessee?
What's the mood is it? Is it every Is it
all over the place? People have all kinds of backgrounds
or is there a predominant prevailing sort of political view there?

Speaker 9 (25:55):
Yeah, I think Colonel you know, college is what you like.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
You know.

Speaker 9 (25:59):
That's that's what my dad told me, and I stand
behind that. I believe it.

Speaker 8 (26:03):
I've had experiences with both sides of the political spectrum. Uh,
you know, as as someone that is a god fearing
Christian that you know, I do have political beliefs that
that are conservative. And so going going to your question
of whether or not there's a certain tone on campus again,

(26:23):
I'll point back to it.

Speaker 9 (26:25):
It is what you make it.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
You know.

Speaker 8 (26:26):
I have really good friends on both sides of the
political spectrum, and I and I think I think too
we and we as college students. I would like to
say it depends on what room. And I don't mean
that in any in any sort of way, but I think,
you know, whenever you whenever you surround yourself with people

(26:47):
that like minded or not having you know, you talked
about earlier, Colonel, the point where we have good civil discourse,
where we can have those those common sense debate and
whether or not it's common sense or if it's something
a little bit more. I don't want to say a
philosophical maybe, you know, I think having that civil discourse

(27:11):
is very, very very important. I cannot stress the importance
of that enough being able to sit down and understand
the other side of the aisle. I mean, I think
it's a pretty universal among my generation that Reagan was
this great president, no matter that he was a Republican
or not, he was a great president because I think

(27:31):
his history has taught us he was in the art
of compromise and that he was able to have those conversations.
And you know, especially for someone that is you know,
new to college, relatively young, and understanding the principles that
he led by, so that I may be able to
do this the same is very very important. And again

(27:54):
going back to that, I think it just depends on
I think it depends on one the group. I think
it depends on the atmosphere, the political time climate of
the time. You know, things like you know, the events
that that transpired this past week definitely uh heat up
those conversations.

Speaker 9 (28:10):
We just had a vigil here actually, you know, last
night for for Charlie.

Speaker 8 (28:16):
And you know what what saddens me, Colonel, is that
I had to keep my head on a swivel at
all times. And this is where you know, you can
get into you know, campus carry or not constitutional carry
should should go into campuses.

Speaker 9 (28:31):
You know, that's that's a whole nother evolving debate, and
I won't even get into that.

Speaker 8 (28:35):
But my point there is that I have to keep
my head on a swivel because there is such evil
in the world that I that I feel unsafe going
to a vigil for a man that lost his life
pursuing the freedom of speech.

Speaker 9 (28:50):
I mean, just let that. Let that I know that,
I know that has something the.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Irony of just that, you know, yeah, silencing someone because
of our exercier and not only that, someone who's seeking discourse.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
Look read, I asked the question because look, I went
to university. I've continued to go to university.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
I just graduated from Michigan State and be keeping their
agriculture department two years ago. And I've done postgraduate degrees,
so I continue to do it. But I was at university.
Let's say, I'll just say this. Cheers was on television,
and so was Magnum p I, so we won't pick
dates there, but just given time reference. But I was
on university and this animosity wasn't there. I mean, we

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used to have Baker Senator High University, which now is
a brand new building. They moved it closer on campus,
but this was in town, was right off the edge
of campus, a campus across the street, and it was
right there, but it belonged to the university. It's called
Baker Center, and that's where student groups would get together.
And I was a member of the Young Republican Club,
so I would go there for meetings. I remember one
night I was rushed to get up there. I went
to the meeting, and I don't know if they put

(29:49):
the numbers on the rooms wrong or inm I hurry,
I misread it, but I walked into a room and
everybody was very friendly, but something wasn't quite right.

Speaker 6 (29:56):
These weren't all Republicans.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
And then I sat down and I quickly realized that
was that the gay student in Lesbian Alliance meeting and
not actually the Young Republicans Club. So they explained to
me that actually the Republicans are the other room. So
I went next door to the other room, but people
got along well. I mean, there's probably some Republicans in there,
and that gave me. But my point was that this
sort of animosity wasn't something that was prevalent on campus

(30:20):
at that time, at least at the school that I
went to in Midwest. It might have been different in
California or in upstate New York, but certainly in Ohio
that wasn't the case. And I'm just curious because discourse
was your other day. You know, people had different views,
they talked about it. Nobody was out to attack each
other's none of that nonsense going on. The biggest animosity
was when the opposing football team came to town on

(30:42):
Saturday for a game. But that seems to be very
different in society today, and we're led to believe from mainstream.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
Media that that is the case as well in college campuses.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
I mean, we saw that Milo Unapolis was they tried
to keep him from going to campus out at UC
Berkeley a few years ago. When we saw what just
happened to Charlie Kirk in Utah, of all places, is
in Utah, that's shocking to me. That's a very mellow state.
I mean, if that happened to Tennessee, I'd be just
as shock. That would be shocked. It was in New
York or California, but Tennessee or Utah shocked. So that's
why I'm trying to get an gauge of sense for

(31:13):
what's going on there, So thank you for sharing that.
I do appreciate it. Let's go back to that point
you were told me earlier. You were talking about an NCO.
Was it Sergeant Boykan or somebody that? Can you tell
us who that is and and how something happened that
that motivates you to get involved here, because I think
that was the genesis of the spark for you work
in that legislation you talked about.

Speaker 8 (31:32):
Absolutely, Commander, would you like to expand there a little
bit more athlete and then I can expand from my
point of view and how I got involved.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
No, No, you go ahead, because this is about you,
my friend. Don't don't let me take up any of
your time.

Speaker 8 (31:46):
Well, I'll go off of the words that you know
I had to hear over a telephone call. I mean,
I'm really I've really got to I've really got to
real this one in. It was just really sad to
hear from from a like I said, a phone call

(32:10):
that I had with James and that Sergeant Sergeant Bolin
was in a facility, a Tennessee State Veterans home and
he he wasn't receiving app care for his circumstances. My
understanding is that he had debilitating cancer at the point
to where he was not a harm to himself for others.

Speaker 9 (32:31):
He had a sixteen year old son, and that he
was he wasn't. He wasn't.

Speaker 8 (32:41):
I don't want to put this. He wasn't given the
best position where he where he felt like he was
able to connect with his son here within the state,
and so that bothered me, and the and the way
that I didn't put that he had no other legal guardianship.

Speaker 9 (32:57):
And and so his father was all that he had.

Speaker 10 (32:59):
And you know, I.

Speaker 8 (33:01):
Really appreciate that about the Sergeant Bowen, and what I
knew about him is that he wasn't he wasn't going
to give up the time with his kid. He stayed
where he was at because he had a sixteen year
old son with no other legal guardianship that was coming
to see him at a Tennessee State Veterans home. They
gave him the option to move. From my understanding, and.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Then that was.

Speaker 9 (33:28):
I do I want to say, not a possibility.

Speaker 8 (33:31):
As events transpired, and so this accountability phase came in
to where we're looking at Tennessee State Veterans' homes, and
this was something I went into this summer as an
intern in DC. Is that this is a state issue.
This is a governor's program. As I mentioned earlier, there

(33:52):
are things that the governor can provide for and that
the Tennessee State legislature can provide for for funding of
these facilities.

Speaker 9 (34:01):
You know, after having some meetings in which you.

Speaker 8 (34:05):
Know, I'll i'll leave leave b you know, I understood
that there was a different type of care at these
different facilities across the state. No two facilities to my
understanding that there are not a surplus of facilities I
should say that have the same amount of care, So
they're in different schedules.

Speaker 9 (34:24):
If I should say it, why does that have to
be that way? Is it because of funding?

Speaker 8 (34:31):
Because the Tennessee State Veterans Home that that Sergeant Bublin
was in was recently renovated and built.

Speaker 9 (34:38):
Is it, might I say, a hiring issue? Is it
faculty and staff? What is that issue?

Speaker 8 (34:48):
And so this this legislation really was more for the
attention of the matter to say, hey, this is this
isn't right. We can't let our veterans go into a
Tennessee State Veterans Home where they're promised because of their
service that you know, they're not going to be taken
care of like we cannot do that.

Speaker 9 (35:05):
That cannot be allowed in our state.

Speaker 8 (35:08):
And so that legislation led to some really great meetings
and hopefully some legislative action in the future. From my understanding,
this Tennessee State Veterans Home has now risen to one
hundred percent capacity, believe it or not, and I cannot
be more overjoyed to hear that fact that that Tennessee

(35:28):
State Veterans Home is being used to its fullest capacity,
considering at the time of the unfortunate events that perspired
with Sergeant Boland that it was only around sixty percent.

Speaker 6 (35:40):
Right, So read how did you come to your worldview?

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Is there something that influenced your particular an event, a
mentor a parent, a teacher, or something like that.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
You know, when I was young, I had all.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
The bad examples to follow, and I did everything one
hundred and eighty degrees the opposite, and that's probably why
turned out all right. The only positive examples that were
actually in high school that resonated with me A couple
of teachers who you know, asked me if I was
going to go to university, and I said, with what,
I'm poor. And they told me to go to the
guidance counselor and look into loans and grants and things
like that, and they said, you should go to college.

(36:16):
You're a smart kid. And I'm like, I didn't think
I was a smart kid. I didn't have best grades.
I was busy milk cows every morning, every night. That
was kind of my focus. But they were right, and
that was just enough of a little push to get
me going. But but my worldview had already been formed
and had been formed at a time when the man
you talked about, Ronald Reagan, was president and I was
coming of age when President Reagan came in office, and

(36:38):
that was really a big event in my life and
really shaped a lot that was going on.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
But I got there on my own.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Is there someone in your life that really pushed in
the direction or did you just find your way to
being a conservative of your own accord?

Speaker 8 (36:51):
So I would say from a conservative nature, you know,
being brought up in a house of God from my parents,
you know, having these traditional Judeo Christian values put on
to me as as a as a Baptist, and I
know that's Protestantism. But anyways, as as a Baptist to
to you know, understand one, my relationship with Jesus Christ

(37:16):
is the most important thing in my life, you know,
going back on events that had happened last this this
past week. You know, one thing you can say about
Charlie Kirk is that he believed in Christ, that he
he spoke the Word of God, and understanding how important
that is no matter what room I walk into, no

(37:36):
matter what side of the fence someone might be on
politically speaking, to be able to share with them the
Gospel is far and foremost the most important thing I
can do in my life, first of all. Second, having
parents that pushed me to realize my own true potential,

(37:57):
even whenever I didn't see it in myself, is something
that I will be ever grateful for. My mom and
Dad have pushed me to limits that I could have
never imagined or that I thought I could have attained,
and hopefully, you know, I know they're going to continue
to do that from a mentorship side of side of
the side of things.

Speaker 9 (38:17):
More specifically with veterans. My uncle he from a very
from a very very young age, he will.

Speaker 8 (38:28):
He was in the army, He was in the Air Force,
Air force intelligence as well as did did some work
in the Secret Service and private protection. So understanding his
military background, h you know, understanding you know, maybe more
more on the side of caution and you know, gun rights,

(38:48):
that kind of thing, and always looking looking at you know,
the new magazine on on the coffee tables whenever we
share times at Christmas. I think understanding that his service
and my great grandfather, who was a World War Two
marine island hopper, you know, understanding this this service and
this sacrifice, and understanding you know, the orders that that

(39:12):
our men and women take every single day, or you know,
that's that's larger than life, sir, to be really honest
with you, and so there's been mentors in my life.
It would take me a very long time to list
them all because that you know, it takes, it takes
a village, and it really has for me. And you know,

(39:32):
I'm gonna try not try not to break break up
while talking about it. I mean, everybody that has poured
into me to to get me where I'm at today.
You know, from a scholarship standpoint, from a legislative advocacy standpoint,
there's just so many, sir. So you know, I pointed
out the the early revelations of understanding that I knew
this was something that I was interested in, possibly something

(39:55):
to legislate on, you know, and the the individuals that
have that have really pushed me be here today.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
Fascinating to hear that. I do have one question about
that though.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
If I heard you, Greg, you said your grandfather was
an island happy marine.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
Was your grandfather your great grandfather.

Speaker 9 (40:09):
Great grandfather? Mymocrazed, No, that's that's.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Okay, I mean, because I mean, like my grandfathers were
in the Second World War. I'm like, how old were
your father and your grandfather when they had kids?

Speaker 6 (40:21):
And that's what I'm trying to do. The bath thought
of you.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Okay, Yeah, that makes more sense. We're we're a little
bit of a generation a part there. Yeah, my grandfather's
same one was in merls marauders and fought the Japanese
and Southeast as the other was landed and uh normandy.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
So yeah, but my grandfather not like great grandfather. So
I was trying to figure that one out. So what's next?
What's next? Read?

Speaker 4 (40:41):
I mean, it sounds like you have a very busy
and fulfilling life at the moment. Is studying and volunteering
and helping veterans and writing legislation and and is there
something else on the horizon? Do you have plans in
the short term or are you looking long term? Where's
your focus? Both places?

Speaker 5 (40:56):
Maybe?

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (40:58):
Absolutely both.

Speaker 8 (40:59):
I mean God, God is the air in my lungs
right now, sir as, I know that He is for you,
gentlemen and hopefully everyone listening. I would say the first
thing that I can talk about really quickly, if you
haven't given your life to Christ, do that tonight.

Speaker 9 (41:16):
You're not guaranteed tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (41:17):
If if Charlie Kirk's death has taught us anything, it
should be that we should come together stronger and better
than ever in our Christian faith, you know. On the
forefront of my mind right now has to be that,
and you know all these other things. Studying, yeah, well,

(41:39):
studying's up there. I'm going to keep my grades up,
but you know, studying in the nonprofit work that I'm
doing right now with the ETSU Elevates. I'm really excited
about that program. And and if I may, I'd like
to elaborate on that a little bit further.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Colonel Yeah, absolutely, And what you finished, I'm going to
hand us off to Todd. He knows you, and he's
probably got some really good questions q'ed up. So why
don't you tell us about that? And then title take
us rest way to this out of the hour perfect.

Speaker 8 (42:07):
So, Project Welcome Home Veteran is my project, an our
project for ETSU elevates and really what this project goes
to do and the goals are to provide a community
through micro home housing here in Johnson City. But as
I'm sure you gentlemen know you've looked at the statistics.

(42:29):
You know, fifty you know, fifty eight percent is a
round number there, and I you know it fluctuates by day,
I'm sure, but according to Helio, veterans are at a
fifty fifty eight percent higher risk of suicide than civilians,

(42:50):
especially with a positive PTSD scan. And that is something
that I think this, I know this probably Jack centers
itself around because I think I would offer that the
community that Hatty's House of Hope and Project Welcome Home
Veteran are trying to provide to these veterans here in

(43:12):
Johnson City will decrease that number, more specifically here in
the state from the national average. You know, working with
the American Legion in Washington, d C. As a part
of the Rowan Scholars Summer of Service project, you know,
going and seeing these things at a national level. Of

(43:33):
the statistics through the B to one program, eighteen veterans
were losing a day, right, that's what you're colording.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
So really quick about the tiny homes or micro homes
as you called them. You do have an event coming
up very soon, and I know we've got a number
of listeners in Tennessee right now, especially the American Legion
and veterans. What date is that and where can they
find more information about, you know, helping out with that
If you don't.

Speaker 8 (43:55):
Mind absolutely, it's October sixth. It'll be at the TSU
Martin Center, doors open at five o'clock. All are welcome.
I would love to share the link to you guys,
and hopefully all of your listeners will be able to
join on October six virtually if they cannot intend in person.
So kind of how ETSU Elevates works is there's a

(44:18):
grand prize at the end for first place that's right
around three thousand dollars, and then there's a audience choice
award for another thousand dollars and so all the support
that that we can attain would be great and would
love to share that project on October six with whoever
shows up, both in person and virtually.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
Absolutely. Now, if you could give some advice to say,
some young people who maybe around your age, it's maybe
out there floundering right now. They left high school. They
really don't have any direction. You know, they're not in
the military, they don't miss they may have a job,
not sure, but maybe it's just the menial work.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
What have you.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
What is some advice you could give to some young
folks in your shoes if you will, or your age,
that maybe commote, devate them, that maybe get their head
on the head on straight and get in the right direction.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
Yeah, so I think I think Charlie Kirk said it best,
because college isn't for everybody. You know, we we are
at a at a deficit for trades and skilled work.
And I know in Tennessee and I know in our
nation that would be the first thing because I know
that that's been you know, a heavy point in mind

(45:26):
right now. But I think if you're in college, and
Colonel you touched on this earlier. You know, the media
wants to make everything device divisive.

Speaker 9 (45:39):
It does not have to be that way.

Speaker 8 (45:41):
Be the change that you wish to see in the world. Uh,
you know, And sometimes it takes a different mindset to
to improve yourself and to prove others.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
You know.

Speaker 8 (45:52):
Sometimes it's just a hello of a morning whenever you're
your dog tired and you see somebody that you don't
recognize and you can see that they have the same
anguish on their face, maybe from a homework assignment or
from a really long exam that they've been studying for.

Speaker 9 (46:07):
Maybe sometimes it's just the hello.

Speaker 8 (46:09):
And sometimes I know that it has been for me
that it's led to a conversation, you know, in past tense,
but in the in a future tense, for me to
have a conversation about the Lord and what he's doing
in my life and what he can do in theirs.
If they're not, they're not a believer, you know. I think,
you know, whatever work you do, enjoy it, find fulfillment

(46:29):
in it, you know. I recently read a book with
the Rown Scholars program here. It's called The Six Types
of Working Genius. It's a fantastic read. Understanding your genius
because God has given us all gifts and understanding that no,
no two people are the same, either by fingerprints or
by DNA, or by soul or connection to God, and

(46:52):
understanding that the gifts that we have or are specific
to us, and we should be able to enjoy those
gifts and use them for the for His lot and
his glory.

Speaker 10 (47:01):
Right.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
And You've always been a positive person every time I've
been around, You're spoken to you on the phone, what
have you text message, email, You're always positive, upbeat, even
whenever you're dog tired. As you said, uh, you know,
So what what is it your your your view of
Christ and your your relationship with Christ or and your family. Well,
what is it that that that makes you such a positive,
up be person that wants to go forth and do
good things and help people.

Speaker 9 (47:24):
Yeah, Christ has put me in this position. My work's
not done.

Speaker 8 (47:29):
He has given me another day on this on this earth,
and until he calls me home, I'm going to do
everything that I can that He's led me to do
here on this earth to benefit others as he has
benefited me. And that's just something I live by. Is
is be the change that you wish to see in
the world. Treat do unto others as you would have
them do unto you. So I think that that's the

(47:51):
most important piece of advice that I can offer, sir.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Uh love it absolutely. And we've got a few more
minutes here spend. John, you want to jump in on
a question two or Colonel, you have anything else. I
see the colonel. He's over to Bobby, his head up
and down. He may have a couple more questions.

Speaker 6 (48:05):
I always love to more question. I've always got more questions.
But let's say if John's got something he wants to
jump in here, No.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Go ahead. You guys been rolling with it, and I'm
really kind of had lost for questions right now.

Speaker 6 (48:15):
So all right, well I'll jump right back in here. So,
so read the law.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
You've mentioned the law. Have you thought about to where
you might want to go to law school? Has that
come to mind yet? A, you're gonna be one of
those Harvard boys. There's gonna be something there in Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (48:31):
I guess, I guess we'll see. I guess we'll see
how Harvard turns out in the next couple of years.

Speaker 9 (48:38):
You know, I don't I don't know.

Speaker 8 (48:40):
I'm gonna I'm gonna keep myself open there because there
could be great changes for Harvard and I would hope
to see in a in a positive, in a very
positive way. You know, I don't know, like I said earlier,
you know, I want to see where God directs me,
and you know, I'm sure there will there will be
an opportunity to present itself. Right now, I'm focusing on
l SAT prep and trying to keep the wheels on

(49:02):
the bus here at et s U and trying to
sharpen my sword with you know, the E T. S
U Speech and debate team, as well as the Roan
scholars program. If I can elaborate on that, the Roan
has really made a significant impact on my life. It's
a four year full ride scholarship here at et s
U and we're you know, our founder, Louis Gump, really

(49:25):
wanted to instill in high school seniors, you know, college freshmen,
the ideas and fundamentals of leadership and what that means
for the youth and hopefully to move leaders here at
et s U into the community. You know, that is
the objective of E T. S U is to benefit
our region and beyond and hopefully to be a good
proponent of change here on our campus.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
One of my viewers who said joined the chat that
has been asking questions and he says, how come that
young man is better addressed than anyone else. Well, Todd's
in the studio, John's in the studio, and I'm in
the third country.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
So that's our Yes, that's right.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Well, sometimes it does feel like a thorough country, trust me,
with the internet having all right time there.

Speaker 6 (50:11):
But anyway, so so read, I really appreciate you coming
on tonight and your insights and what we're doing. And
I've got to say that that I'm really thrilled.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
At some times I lose a little bit of hope
for for younger generations in our country because I feel
like I grew up in a different era, different epoch
where people respected the country and respected the flag. I mean,
don't get me wrong, there people burning the flag when
I was younger, But but we didn't have a kind
of animosity that the people seem to have today. And
maybe it was always there, we just didn't have social media.

(50:42):
Let me ask you that question, I mean, has social
media played a role in your life? I mean, for
some people plays a very big role in their life,
particularly younger folks. But there's a few of those. As
they said off Arcans, tope's the old, the old, the
old farts who I actually use a social media? But
is social media played any role in where you find
yourself today?

Speaker 8 (51:01):
Yeah, if you'll look at my social media page right now,
is more specifically Instagram. There's nothing on there maybe except
for the involvements well previous and some previous and current
involvements there in a bio. But you know, I I
you know, sometimes I wonder to myself, colonel, you know,
what does AI look like in the coming years? And

(51:22):
I'm you know, I know you all have had great
conversations with miss Gina Harjan and we knew ourselves. We
knew each other through the National Beta Club, and you know,
her ideas on AI, and that's just really going to
affect I think social media presence. I think what's real
and not real in the world. We're going to have
a bad perception on that in the next I know,

(51:42):
ten years, fifteen years. And that's really sad for me
to say. But you know, social media what the role
that it's played in my life? You know, I think
you know, this goes back to your earlier question, colonel
of what advice and you know, I think you also
said this can Andrew. You know, what advice would you
would you give to the younger generation? You know, don't

(52:06):
subjectify yourself by what looks like success on a phone screen,
Like don't everyone has their own success. You know, God
has different plans for everyone, So why compare yourself? You know,
comparison is the greatest thief of joy. And I think,

(52:26):
and I think going to going further on that, why
why would I be drug down by something that you know,
the enemy could be possibly using a proponent.

Speaker 9 (52:36):
Against, you know, for his will, Like why why would
I do that?

Speaker 8 (52:39):
But for social media in my life, it's it's been
both a blessing and a curse.

Speaker 12 (52:44):
You know.

Speaker 8 (52:45):
I know my mom really likes the social media side
of things, me not so much. But it seems like
Facebook and Instagram have different amplitudes there.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Yeah, well you can tell your mom is very proud
of you on social media.

Speaker 9 (52:58):
I can tell you that, well, I appreciate that. I
hope to micro proud.

Speaker 6 (53:02):
Yeah, you also can tell that you're very ground and
I do appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
You know, you mentioned something and something I think for
people in the audience to have to understand that likes
and followers.

Speaker 6 (53:11):
Don't equal love. It doesn't.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
It doesn't make you reach self actualization. The mass those
the hierarchy of needs that that is not the pinnacle.
That's just something that happens on the journey and people
shouldn't focus on that. And it sounds like, read, that's
not something that you focus on either. You know, Charlie
kirkad millions of followers, but the true love for Charlie
has been so evident in the outpouring, the vigils, the songs.

(53:35):
And while I am a known, very strong opponent of
artificial intelligence because I fear Skyneck, I've watched all those
Terminator movies.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
I know what happens, so I don't want that outcome.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
But an interesting full disclosure, Charlie stands on the song
that I put together at the beginning of the program
is artificial intelligence generated because I sing like dying cats
and nobody wants to hear that.

Speaker 6 (53:56):
Nobody wants to hear that. And I can't even do
it with in Minnesota accent because I don't need to ludfisk.
You know, I'm telling you know anyway.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
But seriously, read, it's been a pleasure tonight Jenny, final
words you like to share with us, We've got just
cupping that's left before we get the gong here at
the top of the hour.

Speaker 8 (54:10):
Yes, sir, First of all, I really appreciate you gentlemen,
having me on tonight. It's a great honor and a
pleasure to be here. You know, I will look forward
to to seeing many of you at ET s u
elevates both in person and online on October six at
five o'clock. The words that I have for everyone listening,
keep God at the first and at the foremost the top,

(54:35):
whatever collaboration you need there of your heart, Keep Him
first in your heart, Keep Christ first, because He will
get us through this. I don't just believe that. I
know that, and it's fact, and the word tells us so.
And so I think, you know, all of the questions
earlier I think kind of alluded to this decisiveness within

(54:56):
a college realm, and I think as long as as
long as we keep Christ first, I don't I don't
you know, from a from a political standpoint, You know,
I'm able to have those conversations both with on on
either side of the fence politically, you know that's those
are the conversations that I care and love to see.
So I really appreciate you guys having me on tonight.

(55:17):
It's been a true honor and a pleasure.

Speaker 9 (55:19):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Good story, Thank you for coming on. We really appreciate it. Toy,
thanks for scheduling, but it was very insightful to appreciate that, folks.
In the next hour, John and Todd will continue on.
I'm dropping off a ge little bit of a little sleep,
a little shut eye there, because I get up in
the morning and drive to the airport and then have
a meet and greet tomorrow night with my viewers down
the airport.

Speaker 6 (55:39):
So thank you all for tuning in, and thank you
to our guest read Bull tonight. Den I gotta say,
read Bryce, what's going on in Tennessee? Man, You all
sound like you're from the blue Blood the country club there.
There's no Jim, Bob and Joe's anyway, But that's gonna
do it. We'll see you guys in the next hour.

Speaker 9 (55:53):
Cheers, Thank you, see you guys.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
All right, folks, welcome back to the Common Sense Conservatives.
I'm Tommy Kenley. If you just join us, you miss
read Bull in our first hour. A great interview with
Red Bull, and of course Colonel Chris White had dropped off.
He is still in jolly old England or wherever he's
at up there, and I don't know undisclosed location, but
anyway he will be. Oh, there's the colonel. He is

(56:34):
back on here. Okay, Colonel is back.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
He's upset about something. He just found some news.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
Does he know? Is he back?

Speaker 11 (56:42):
Is is?

Speaker 1 (56:42):
No?

Speaker 5 (56:42):
He's he back, colonel.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Oh, he's got no, he's got no Mike, No.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
Sorry about sorry about that.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
The Colonel has rejoined us from his undisclosed location.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
I just was listening to the news, just logging off
there shooting. Three police officers murdered just miles from my house,
and we're talking for the international audience, you know, less
than thirty kilometers from my home.

Speaker 6 (57:10):
This occurred less than twenty miles.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
This is shocking development here near Spring Grove, a place
I frequently go to because of the American American was
the veterans of foreign wars. We have meetings down there,
district meetings, and this is just outside of their pretty
shocking situation here to hear about this, York County is
not a place where we see violence like this we
see in New York City. It's an urban center where
you have lots of instance. But this shooting unfolded on

(57:34):
Horror Road in North Codoras Township. It's a very rural,
placid place in York County. Small barns, farms. Yeah, it's
men of that helicopter spotted evaking one of the police.

Speaker 6 (57:46):
Three police officers shot dead and two critically wounded.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Governor Shapiros asked the public to think of the families
the officers wounded and killed with Obviously it's an extraordinary
situation thing that what these law enforcement families do.

Speaker 6 (57:58):
They support the individual puts on the former runs for danger.
They're down there for them when they leave in the morning, and.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
They pray throughout the day. And three officers will not
come home tonight, and who knows what's gonna happen to
the others. The FBI law with the agents from the
Department of Alcohol Tobacco firearms are on the scene now.
According Attorney General Pambonni, I do this is I mean,
I'm I'm gobsmack, folks, I mean this this is not
Central Pennsylvania.

Speaker 6 (58:22):
This is this is not what we expect to see.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
I'm going to have to do more research in this,
but I thought I should pop back on and tell
you this is literally a hop, skip and a jump.
I probably driven by the place where the shooting has
taking place more than one occasion. Governor Shpiro says, we
agree for the loss of life of three precious souls
to service county and serve the commonwealth in the country.
So yeah, it's I don't say, guys, pretty frightening stuff.

(58:45):
I just want to pop back in for that. Sorry
to take a little the fun away from you, guys,
but I'll give you a chance to talk about the
federal reserve rate cut. Mazie Herona, if you want to
talk about her again. You know, you know Bill egg
Ball really described these people. Here's your side. You know,
it's super huge to wear signs.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Yeah, you know, but it's funny and not funny obviously
in a hilarious way. But you know, all the people
that are still trying to push this agenda that somehow
the murderer of Charlie Kirker, the assassin of Charlie kirk
was still connected with right wingers. I'm like, we're more
than a week later. The guys obviously not right winger,
and you're still trying to push that on some of
these mainstream networks.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Well, I see there earlier that I think the Apartment
Justice has threatened Disney because they're the ones that have
that idiot, you know, who's the fool used to be.
He's on the late night show Jimmy Kimmel that moron
rights used to be mildly entertaining as a football, you know, commentator,
but not a commentator, just joking about football about thirty
years ago.

Speaker 6 (59:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
No, apparently he's trying to claim that this guy's the
right winger, and so Disney got a threatening message from
the Attorney General because they're stoking violence and he'd be careful.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
Right any way.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Yeah, I just I just want to pop back on
really quickly and mention that really quickly, because I mean
this is close to home.

Speaker 6 (59:58):
I mean, this is right on the road from me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
I don't know that I know any of the officers
because we have regional police officers and I don't really
know any of them. And we also have a sheriff
as well, and local police departments plus the state police.
So I don't know who lost their lives here, But
thoughts and prayers of those folks, and and it's just
not something I see in York County, Pennsylvania, you know.
And when I get back, I'll be home for a
few days and I'm flying out to Idaho to do
a documentary with the South African Film Group, and I'm

(01:00:22):
gonna stay a few more days and go to Salt Lake.
I'm gonna go down to Orum if I can get
on campus. I'm gonna go to Utah Valley University where
the shooting occurred.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
That's just happenstance.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
I was going to go to Utah anyway, go to
Salt Lake, and then I'm going up to Wyoming to
look at some property because I need away from all
these people, right right, It's.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
Just it's it's too many people. It's becoming too cut
it's becoming too crowded. I need, I need.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
I need to add a house on a hillside with
quaking aspen and you know, I need. I need to
have range fans that I can put my automatic weapons
powered by late by By diamonds.

Speaker 6 (01:00:53):
I found in the congo out in the front yard.
Figured out the silver bags so much.

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
Yeah, was gonna say, where's the silver back set, the
one with the little talking knit arm thing there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
I'm curious, you're going to be in Idaho. Aren't you
going to just look around in Idaho for a place
to land? I mean, what's the thing with Wyoming?

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
Oh? I love Wyoming. Wyoley is one of my great loves.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
Was I was going to buy property out there when
I came back from Germany in nineteen ninety four. I'd
looked at property in nineteen ninety before I went to
Germany and I was second attendant, and I found a
lot for like twelve hundred bucks.

Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
It was fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
It was on the side of a mountain ridgeline near
after in Star Valley, which is a lovely place. It's
below all the Hollywood hype up north by Yellowstone and
Jackson Hole it so it's below that, but.

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
It's beautiful, and I was going to buy it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
By the time I got out there, the price a
gun from twelve hundred to twelve thousand for the lot, which.

Speaker 6 (01:01:44):
Is alarming, but still, I mean, it was not a
barrier I couldn't overcome.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
But the problem was that I knew I wouldn't live
there for ten, fifteen or twenty years, and you have
to develop the property and it would be difficult to
do that. And beyond that, at that time, in the
nineteen ninety four there were homeowner association fees of twelve
hundred dollars a year. Wow, oh wow, I was I
was making like twenty eight thousand a year before Texas.
I'm like, it ain't gonna happen. But anyway, that's the

(01:02:12):
long an issue for me now. So at this point
I'll live in a trailer to get to get away
from this nonsense. But anyway, so yeah, I'll be out
in the Idaho, Wyoming and Utah here coming up at
the end of the month. So anyway, but we'll we'll
do one of these shows on that west So it'll
be nice for me because it'll be it'll be dinner time.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
You know, it won't be seven rhs.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Right, Yeah, you'll be able to go do something right
after the show.

Speaker 6 (01:02:34):
Yeah. It's like I just realized when you have Billy
paintererfill in, its life is easy for him. Man. It's
not like he's got to stay up later or anything.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
No, you'll be out there near near him this next
to the week or so whatever exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
So anyway, I just want to drop in real quick
I apologize for it, but I got to drop off now, folks.
Thanks a lot, you guys have a good broadcast wrestlight. Okay, yes, sir,
thank you, colonel cheers, Bye bye, all right, folks. Colonel
Colonel Chris White did pop back on there. Yeah, still
on his VACA slash working vacation. Uh, but he'll be back,
like you said, uh, next week and onward from there.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
So and I look forward to that. I look forward
to this, uh, this documentary he's talking about the South Africans.

Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
I'm interested to see what it's about. And you know,
see what the angle is. You know what I'm saying,
because every every documentary has to have some sort of
angle or else. What's the point of it? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Oh yeah, well no, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, it's about
their migration stuff over here. I don't know, but yeah,
it's gonna I'm like you, I can't wait till it's
finished so I can see it too. It's it'll be
that way.

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
You can be like, I know that guy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Well, it depends on how it bits together, right. If
he gives the background of why they migrant, you know,
and stuff like that, learning about what's going on in
South Africa. I think everybody should know, you know, about
what's going on and how things transitioned and turned around
and where they've where they've been, where they've come to,
and where they are now. You know, it's a lot
to be learned from.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
Right, Yeah, they learned a lot through apartheid, and now
it seems like they're going in an odd direction at
this point. I don't and I'm not saying the United
States is is the greatest thing. I mean, I think
we are the greatest thing, but I understand we are
not without fault. For sure. We have a lot to
we we got to work on as well. But you know,
you can also critique somebody else, even though you may

(01:04:12):
not be perfect. That's the way I look at it, right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
So it's kind of like mirroring us. Right, we're predominantly
white and predominantly black. But we also saw with BLM
a lot of what we saw with B on them.
I'm not putting anybody down for anything, but what we
saw with BLM, a lot of it was about black
supremacy in the United Sure gain an advantage, and it
took me off because you know, I'd be happy to

(01:04:34):
help somebody fight for the freedoms, but not if you
want to white guilt me. Not if you want to
put me down or repress me. I got a finger
for that because that's not freedom. And yeah, quality, you
know you claim me quality you want to do. That's
not what it's about. And not everybody that got involved
with Black Lives Matter felt that way, but I saw
a lot of it come out of the camp. So
that's why I didn't get involved. I mean predominantly and

(01:04:55):
a lot of black folks that just always said, we
don't need you. White people will do it on their own,
So okay, have at it. But ultimately that's what happened
in South Africa, right they right, you have you have
white people that were in control. They talked to apartheid
and stuff. But now the pingdulum swings so far to
the right the other side that you know, it's not
finding a happy medium. And I felt like, you know,

(01:05:15):
that's not impossible, it's not really impossible here, but it
was desirable to some. So it kind of like it
gives us a reflection, right, Well, you.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
See what's going there on there in some respects is
people wanting to get some sort of vengeance or payback, right,
I guess in some respects, perhaps in some places. I
don't want to pretend like I know that the whole
the whole scenario over there right now. But in America,
what you're seeing is people that want to get some
sort of vengeance or payback for what happened, you know,

(01:05:45):
many generations ago, you know, and and I get it.
There are people alive now that that suffered through Jim Crow,
to suffer through you know, all sorts of things through
the sixties, seventies, and even through the eighties. Even now.
Racism certainly exists, for sure. But the great thing about
America is we can recognize our faults and we can
move forward and correct them and hopefully we don't repeat

(01:06:06):
those mistakes. But now you have people that are actively
trying to repeat those mistakes, thinking that it's okay because
those people over there will be the ones who suffer,
when in reality is everybody's going to suffer because we
live in this country, you know, dispersed throughout. You know,
you don't just have here's the black community, here's white,
here's whatever. Everybody's going to suffer across the nation if
some of these folks have their way, and it's dangerous.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
So ah, yeah, Charles said the same thing, or say,
as a mirror to what the path the USA was
heading down until Trump twenty twenty four. Thank you for
the input, Charles. I think too that we don't see
a bigger picture in South Africa. Charles, correct me if
I'm wrong, because I'm going off my understanding of things. Right, right,
we hear a lot about we hear a lot about

(01:06:48):
white African farmers, South African farmers being murdered and killed.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
That's what I'm understanding.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
It's also happened to black residents too, and black farmers.
Charles said, yeah, yeah, as uh let's see, it would
appear to be revenge and now here is RSA, but
it's against people that had nothing to do with a part.

Speaker 5 (01:07:08):
Yeah yeah, right, yeah, good call, Charles, Thank you so.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
But yeah, my understanding, it's broader picture than just h
white people being attacked. It's also black farmers and so
it's an out of control gangs and things like that
that are not being uh mitigated by the government. The
go basically asleep at the switch, right, So a lot
of corruptions and what he's saying, you know, we have
that we have that same sort of corruption here, and

(01:07:32):
Trump's been trying to point that out. Is our corruption
is so ingrained in our politics, and even Trump, I mean,
as hard as he fights and as much as he's exposed,
he's still at the surface of it all. You know,
he can't seem to get down embedded into.

Speaker 5 (01:07:46):
It, right, you know, everybody's somebody always going to drain
the swamp. Trump's got it and all this going into
his first term, and I was hearing people doing that
because I was out doing different events for him and
doing advance and I'd go out and just talk to people,
you know, in the public that are that are coming
into these events, because sometimes you'd open the gates four
or five hours before you get there, and you had
everything set up ready to go, so you had time

(01:08:06):
just to kind of walk around make sure things were good.
Out of case. They just talk to people and there
a pe people like, oh, no, Trump's got it, He's
draining the swamp. Everything's good. And I'm like, you realize,
you have got to stay on this at your level,
at your local level, your state level. I said, Trump's
only going to be able to chip away a little
bit at the executive branch level, at the federal level,
at federal government, and maybe Congress can help him a

(01:08:28):
little bit, but Congress is also going to focus on
getting re elected themselves, and they're gonna look at those coattails.
Are they short, are they long? And they may abandon
him at some point, which a lot of people actually
have or at least did during that first first term.
We saw that. I said, so you have got to
be on this as well. You can't just say think
Trump's going to do it himself. I mean he needs
help without it doubts at politics and running a government's

(01:08:50):
team sport.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
So like I said, he's scratching the surface time. We
all know it. He's just scratching that. He's doing his
best he can. He'll dig his deep and expose all
he can, but he's only got so much time. And
right now he's right at the purpose level. There's a
lot to dig through here. If you're going to rely
on one man to fix it in four years, you
got to go get your head checked. Because this is
one thing. The revolution never stops, right, So we always

(01:09:11):
keep fighting for freedoms no matter what. All through two
hundred and fifty years now, you know we've been fighting
for freedoms. Let's see, Charles said that. He says, not
just farmers, however, also black farmers, but they are minority
among farmers. So yeah, let's see, he says. Charles says, nope, John,
the government took away all checks and balances that were
in place to protect the farmers, a commando system, and

(01:09:35):
then provided little security. Yeah. So and there's well, yeah, okay,
that's basically was getting at Charles. But you also have
a lot of corruption within your country, do you not.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
Yeah, I believe they. I believe they did.

Speaker 6 (01:09:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
I mean that's what leads to these kind of messes.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
Right, absolutely. But what people need to realize now going
back to Trump here in the US is what's about
to happen within in the next few months. We're decept him.
I know in Tennessee, people will start picking up petitions
to run for public office or run for reelection. By December,
and especially by January February, people will already be filing
petitions and be often running.

Speaker 6 (01:10:11):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
So it's like some of these members of the Congress
are going to look at it and say, you know,
does it make sense to stay on the Trump train
or do I need to jump on his coattails to
continue to help him, or do I need to go
my own way? You know, I dare say with the
environment of things now, most people are going to stay
on the Trump train. But you got to look at it.
He has the less than one term left in public

(01:10:34):
office right now and he's out. You know, if we
don't get all the things done that he talked about
that we all supported, it's probably not gonna get done.
And whoever follows him, even if it is jd. Vance,
because Jady Vance is gonna have his own set of
agenda items he's gonna want to get done as well.
Some of it may may incorporate some of the Maga movement,
but he's gonna have a different take on the whatever

(01:10:55):
that Maga movement is. You know, he's gonna have his
own take on it and he may go into a
different So everything we can possibly do at the local, state,
and federal level to ensure that this agenda gets pushed through.
Draining swamps, if you will, is not just a Washington swamp.
It's your state level swamp. It's you know, here in Tennessee,
it's Nashville, uh and in my county, Sullivan County, it's

(01:11:16):
blunt bill and a lot We have a lot of
good county commissioners, but there are some I think that
we're going to need to ask this next go around,
just on our on our boe as as well. You know,
we're going to have elections there. Uh, some people need
to look at candidates and think, you know, do I
want to re elect that person or find somebody new?
And it's going to be sole searching the individual is
going to have to do by looking at everybody across

(01:11:37):
the board.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
So the swamp is international. Now sure, it's always it's
always been there. It's a large, compounding picture here and
this is what we've got to recognize. So we've got
to recognize first right now, the right is beaten the left,
and the left keeps shooting themselves in the foot like this,
what happened to Charlie Kirk, Right, it's so sad and

(01:12:00):
at the same time that just like I think that
really changed a lot of things in the minds of
a lot of people, not just in this country, but
in the world. He became a n icon for freedom
right and so he's no longer Charlie Kirk the man.
He's like Charlie Kirk the representation of freedom, and we
were getting there anyway, but this kind of, like to me,
kind of propelled it a little bit further right.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
And at this point there's no damn Democrat and I
you know, I maybe I can't think I can use
that word on the air, but there's no Democrat out
there all that has a stand, that has a leg
to stand on legitimately.

Speaker 8 (01:12:37):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
And here's another thing we have to look out for, though,
is there's there's going to be people on the right
and Republicans and people on the right that are going
to try to co opt this Charlie Kirk movement for
their own benefit. I mean, I see it here locally,
a number of people you know that are just some
some are just despicable, should not be in public office.
And we're going to work on that here locally, but
are trying to co opt. You know, they're having Charlie

(01:12:58):
Kirk remembered ceremonies here and there and wherever, and they're
trying to you know, jump on board with that and
trying to be front and center with it to try
to increase their their their their brand, if you will,
and so they can get more eyeballs on what they're doing,
when in reality, they're just trying to use this tragedy
to their own advantage, which you know, that's what politicians do.
These aren't stations spend, Yeah, Statesmans don't. Statesmen don't do

(01:13:21):
things like that. Politicians gravitate the tragedies like this and
co opt them and try to use them. And I
plan on exposing these people because they do our local
area a major discredit, a major disservice by being in
public office, by grand standing in the back padding. And
these are people that are part of the swamp, but
they they falsely jump on the Trump train as well

(01:13:42):
and try to ride that as well to try to
guard themselves from any attacks. And it's like, no, people
like you need to be exposed and pushed off of
the Trump's coattails for credit allowed. You can't. You can't
ride the drain the swamp. Uh you know, mentality if
you will or Trump's want to drain the swamp, if
you have no no, uh no thought in your own

(01:14:02):
mind that you want to drain the swamp at your
local level, if you're doing if you're doing things that
he's trying to counter at the executive branch level, in Washington,
you're doing that at your local level. You're you're you're
not you're doing nothing but lying to people. And I
want to expose those types.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
So what I was gonna drive out earlier is with corporations,
World Economic Forum, things that Trump has been exposing, like
pulling out of the World Health Organization, things like that.
These things were embedding themselves into our communities. And that's
why what you're saying is so important, because when we
start going into our communities and taking back our communities,
we can start driving that out. We've seen what we uh,

(01:14:39):
Monday night, we had an interview with nice long young
lady h who's a senator in Kentucky, and they had
this whole guy because what what what was more more
like in the Kentucky Galnita, I don't don't ask people
pronounce their last name, all okay, and I sit up,
starts with the Z. She's she's come in like number

(01:15:00):
one and freedom, you know as far as ratings go, right,
and so she But they did this, they had this
whole thing about their well over here we call them
area members or area captains, priests and captains right and
all these other things. So they had this whole like overtaken,
like overhauling of the party locally and stuff, to get
rid of all the bad players and clean things up

(01:15:23):
and stuff, and to pull things together so that you
could be a better operating entity as part of the
Republican Party. So there's a recognition of not only do
you drain the swamp in DC, not only do you
drain the swamp locally, you also drain the swamp within
your party. And now we're going to find our strengths
as we've got to have a strong party because right

(01:15:45):
now we're beating the left back, we're beating the corruption back.
But until we solidified the party, yeah, they're gonna wait
to come back in this and this evil the left
is never gonna die. Now we try to find a
path in.

Speaker 5 (01:15:58):
And and like you said, we have to drain the
party swamp as well. And local parties across the state
of Tennessee, for example, there have been a few instances
whenever they the upstarts, the the the the the common
sense conservatives as you will, have been able to you know,
take take control of their local party, I mean, but
just barely. But now they see the establishment's fighting them,

(01:16:19):
trying to kick them out of power. And what the
establishment is going to do, they're gonna wait till Trump's
gone and they're just going to go back to the
business as usual. You know, they're using Trump to their advantage.
You know, they're making everything seem as if to me
they're over the top Trump. If you will, you see
everything that they wear, everything that they say, is all Trump, Trump,
Trump pro Trump. And as soon as he's gone and

(01:16:40):
he's no longer a threat, when people are no longer
paying attention because Trump's out of the way, and the
parties can go back to the toperating the way, the
same old crup way they've done for many decades. Right, Democrats,
Republican parties do it the same thing. Uh, they're gonna
go back to doing the same old stuff. What we
need to do is expose the bad actors and boost
them out and kick them out of office for sure.
Uh again, that's your party, that's your that's your local

(01:17:02):
elected office, say county commission as example, County bes state rep.
State senators, and on up to Washington, d C. You're
at Congress and of course the White House. Kick out
bad people and elect good people. And of course if
good people are in office, get behind them and re
elect them for crying out loud.

Speaker 12 (01:17:18):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:17:19):
But get them out of your local parties as well,
because that's where a lot of the bad actors hang out.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:17:23):
And and and nothing changes if you don't have the
party apparatus behind you as well. And we've got to
do that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
A lot, a lot of what you're looking for too,
are power brokers, right right, Like Mitch mccona was a
power broker in DC, and he's rotten and he's going wrong,
like we see him come here to New Hampshire and
try to buy out Don Boldeck and then when supported
went down, didn't play ball right. So you got to
be careful of these guys. You gotta monitor these guys
and if they're going to do wrong, call them out
on it every time. Try to expose them and get
them out of office, because they're when they're rotten and

(01:17:51):
the ruining the party for everybody. These are the guys going, hey, man,
get in the good old boys club here and we're
all we're all gonna get rich together and this country
be okay decades you know, years down the road, Boen,
we're dead and gone. But meanwhile we're gonna make money
for it. No, No, we got to get rid of.

Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
That was absolutely And I can tell you a lot
of these shysters and I'll just use that word, uh
are still operating on a on a daily basis within
our parties. And we've got to do something better than that.
We've got to we've got to look to new, new leadership.
And I go to the reorganizations and I've seen a
number of other county party reorgs, and reorgan is essentially

(01:18:26):
where you re elect elect officers if you will, and
appoint them, swear them, et cetera. It's kind of a
mini convention, if you will, but not you don't get
into policy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
That's more or less what I was talking about earlier
with the Kentucky.

Speaker 5 (01:18:37):
And right right. But the number of people that vote Republican,
let's saying in my own county, you know, many thousands.
You only have the same handful of people that generally
show up at the reorgs, And I'm like, you vote
for Republicans, it's like vote for who's going to run
your party, Who's going to take these different positions and
guide us into the future. You know, if it's the

(01:18:58):
same old people over and over or you know your
your state's gonna stay stagnant and it's gonna be in
the same place. And we see it in Nashville now.
A lot of our state reps and senators, I mean,
have went down there and corrupted themselves and became career
politicians because they they see Tennessee as a we have
a super majority now in the House and senators and
republic that Republicans do and which is a good thing.

(01:19:21):
But now we've we're getting to the point where we
were at least a generation away from the people who
who made that happen, and now we're on like the
second or third generation of Republicans who didn't have to
do anything to do the hard work to gain power.
And now they're trying to ride on those coattails, if
you will, and ride the wave, and they're they're messing up.

(01:19:41):
And now the Democrats are starting to gain some traction,
not necessarily in Nashville, but but in our communities across
the state because people are moving here from all sorts
of other places and they wanted to bring their politics
with them.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
Oh God, come in, yeah, come in and throw an
arm in front of their name, right oh.

Speaker 5 (01:20:00):
Absolutely, But doing business the same way in our party,
isn't identifying this stuff and isn't keeping out the bad actors.
We're allowing them to seep in across the state. We've
got to guardians that I.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Think, yeah, well, you've got to monitor and you need
to do background checks and things like that. Is where
they're coming from, where they've been and what they've done
in the past. Word is they're coming from. So at
least you can expose them for either being good actors
or bad actors.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
But then at the same time, the old establishment that's
you know, the old blue bloods if you will, They
that want to hold on to power or the appearance
of power, if you will, that the closeness of the relationships.
You know, they're not out recruiting anybody new. They're not
looking for new leadership or new blood because those are
people that could compete with them for their positions or

(01:20:45):
their spot in the seniority pecking order, if you will,
And they don't want that. And I think it's it's
dangerous because now you're seeing, you know, just older people
that are in the Republican Party, not a lot of
younger people. And I've talked to a number of younger
people in reach in years and they don't know much
about politics, but what they do know is startling because

(01:21:06):
it's it's a lot of misinformation they've heard from the
left and this is what they're believing. And at some point,
you know, the older folks in the Republican Party are
going to pass away, and this is who we're going
to be up against is these morons and I'll say
it again, morons who have no clue, don't care. And
now all of a sudden they're going to be competing
for elections. And now our state that's been a super

(01:21:27):
majority for at least a couple of decades may start
to move the other way, and we got to guard
against it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:21:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Yeah, the shifts when they get adam shift. But these
shifts when things shift on you, Yeah, the shifting of
the sands, well yeah, they that's true. Things shift around stuff,
and you got prepared for that and adjust for it. Adaptation,
my man.

Speaker 5 (01:21:50):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely, you got to. You've got to be
prepared for it. Uh. And at the same time, people
have got to be stop being afraid to go out
and have your your grievances. You know redressed if you
will with your government. You know, like let's say local
school board. You know, we had up in northern Virginia
in the past few years, people going up there and
that was a big national story, right finally, but it

(01:22:12):
took somebody's kid, you know, being raped by by by
somebody else another student in a bathroom pretending to be
a female before somebody would actually go to the school
board and stand up. And I'm like, why would you
wait till it gets to that point for you to
go say something? And people I hear all the time
people are afraid, Well I'm afraid, you know, I got
kids in the school or grandkids. I'm afraid they'll be

(01:22:33):
reprised against whatever. And it's like, well, doesn't that tell
you that the people that you have that's in office
representing you and your your given district is probably the
wrong person. You know, maybe maybe you should go help
some good person get into public office instead of just
being afraid. Whenever there's a crisis that you want addressed.
You know what I'm saying, well, I'm afraid to do this,

(01:22:53):
I'm afraid to go do that. And I'm like, well,
I have no problem making those phone calls on your behalf.
But as a member of the school board, I can't
do certain things for you. You know, you bring a
complaint to me, I can pass it along to somebody,
but as far as it being followed up on properly
or anything like that, legally I can't get involved, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:14):
But at the same time, if you're afraid to bring
that forward, let me know and let me know why,
and I'll address that. I have no problem addressing. And
if it's a staffing matter, you know, I have no
problem going to the uh, the the the the superintendent
of schools as we used to call it, Director of schools,
it's what we call it now. I don't have a
problem calling the director of schools saying need you to
do this? Need you get back with me on it,

(01:23:35):
you know? And he will for sure, you know. I mean,
because that that is essentially, at the school board level,
our only employee, and he is there to make sure
that we, essentially on the school board, are happy, you know.
And I got people call me all the time saying
that they can't go to their school board member because
they're afraid of what they might say or whatever. And
I'm like, well, probably the wrong person in an office there. Anyway,

(01:23:56):
I won't go anymore any more in.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Depth on that in good representation. Why are they in
the school work? They don't want to make things right?

Speaker 6 (01:24:03):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Why are you holding up the Why you holding up
a seat where somebody else could actually be doing the weights?

Speaker 5 (01:24:08):
And we could get into the weeds on that, you know,
but I'm I want to keep my powder dry on
some of that for for for now, until we get
to the next year. We'll see where we go. But anyway,
it is what it is. But don't be afraid to go,
you know, and speak up. And if you were, if
you're afraid that something's going to happen, then guess what
whenever it comes time to somebody run against that person,
why don't you support that other person?

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
Yeah, no, you're right. I've I've ran into people doing
things I've done through the years that we're fearful to speak.
And this is the thing about about speech is it's contagious.
If you show the confidence and you show the ability
to do so, other people gain confidence too and want
to speak too, and will And I've actually had people
say that says, if it wasn't for you and other

(01:24:51):
people that I've met, I would never have spoke up.
I'd never thought I could, you know. So that's part
of the that's part of having the fight is working
with people, talking to people, give sharing that confidence with people.
Fear is very contagious, and so was confidence. You know,
when you sat a grouping together and you start working together.
You know, I just I'll read was on here earlier

(01:25:13):
talking about that and stuff like that. You know, romans,
if one man's if one man with God is worth
a thousand men, was a thousand men worth? You know,
it's get into it when you hang together and you
congreg get together.

Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
Do it right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
Absolutely great things.

Speaker 5 (01:25:29):
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(01:25:49):
New Hampshire. We got about thirty minutes left, maybe a
little bit less twenty seven minutes left or so during
the hour. Do you want any stories out there you'd
want to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Actually, somebody holding just paid a post here that as
the energy rates rise due to the needs of artificial intelligence,
the elderly won't be able to afford heating and cooling.
You know, it's kind of funny because I've been looking
at this. I've been playing with some of the chat
bots and stuff and things and doing some of the
I do the app like Chris does for music, which

(01:26:18):
is kind of fun. But these data centers of what
they really are when you're dealing with artificial intelligence and
when you're dealing with chatbots and these other forms of
artificial intelligence, they build these huge data centers and they're
putting up more and more of them and their energy suckers.
And one of the issues about it is they, because
of a corporation, they're going to go to the utility company,

(01:26:40):
right say, well, you know, we kind of you know,
we're bringing a lot of business away and we kind
of need we need, you know, a little bit of
a break because we're consuming so much, and YadA, YadA, YadA,
and it's good community, and so they negotiate themselves maybe ten, twelve, fifteen,
twenty percent off to make things even and balance for themselves,
But who carries that cost? Who's that burden passed onto?
What the rest of the consumers, the people sitting in

(01:27:03):
their homes going banging on their acy. Why is it
coming on and off so much because it's going through brownouts,
because these data centers are sucking it all up, and
then you're paying through the news for it. And we
all suffered for energy increases. But the most most interesting
thing to me is I'm sitting there looking on YouTube
about an article about this somebody put together, and I'm
looking at all these data centers that are showing on

(01:27:24):
the video. I'm like, where are the solar panels?

Speaker 6 (01:27:27):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
You're all a bunch of leftists, and I don't see
a solar panel one on your roofs in the desert
of all places.

Speaker 5 (01:27:33):
Sure you get a lot of day life, right, yeah,
you know there, it might make some sense to have
a few things on your roof, especially not using it, right, pop,
a few solar panels. Maybe don't charge that battery up there,
so that way you have a little bit of power
to turn things off if something goes wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
I don't know something. I'm sure they got backup generators
because if you've got data centers that huge, huge warehouses. Sure,
you're definitely going to generators to keep that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:59):
Yeah, for power, a lot of air conditioning because those
things can overheat pretty quick.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
Well, they got these liquid cool ones now, man, they
thinks that are liquid cooled. And so one of the
issues is they say they consume water because you got heat, saying, oh,
you got liquid cool that recycle the water, so that
goes through a radiator system to cool the water back
down and stuff and bring it back through. But some
of them are just one use, you know, they just
pull it out of a lake or something consuming water.
And and that was one of the issues with a

(01:28:24):
lot of communities. They wouldn't let them put the data
centers in because they'll be taking their water reservoir away.
You know, they're like, we need a water right right.

Speaker 5 (01:28:31):
And well that's the thing is people with say what
they call bitcoin mining places or whatever you call it
mining centers. Yeah, what's funny is I've been to some
places in nearby northeast Tennessee where they've been talking about
putting them up, putting putting them, and people don't understand
that what it is. People think they're actually going to
bring bulldozers and backos and there and start mining, and

(01:28:52):
I'm like, that's not what it is, you know, and
you have to explain it to them. Yeah, Like people
I don't realize, like, well, we don't want that kind
of structure going on, and you know, it's going to
mess up our roads and this, and it's like, that's
not what it is there, buddy. Now you want to
talk about using your water resources, your power, et cetera.
It's going to use a lot of that. You know,

(01:29:14):
we can talk about that. You know, that might be
a reason to be against them, but not because you
think it's going to have construction. They're not bringing in bulldozers,
I'm sorry, except maybe to build the building.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
They're doing some serious mining though, right right.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
Yeah, But people that just don't understand it, and they've
had these sessions of to basically, you know, inform people
of what it actually is because they had no clue.

Speaker 11 (01:29:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
So I see a lot of concerns about artificial intelligence
with chatbots and things like that, and the reason why
is because if you're communicating with these things, the way
they work is they're connected to data centers, but they're
also connected to the Internet, And if you understand how
the internet works, when you do a Google search, so
you want a straight answer, and these chatbots go up

(01:29:57):
there and they look things up online. They look up
a bunch of stuff on and it's at once or
they're incredibly quick. That's why it takes so much energy
and stuff. These things really function. And the thing about
it is is everything you're getting this left because of
grab grabbing information from liberal leftist articles that are the
surface of the the Google searches, you know, you got

(01:30:18):
if you want to find some real information, you got
a good.

Speaker 5 (01:30:21):
You got to think about this too. What's so funny
is the left they have an equivalent that pumps out
information and articles that's out there, yes, from from from bots.
So the stuff they put out is also corrupted anyway
because it's not fully thought out.

Speaker 6 (01:30:37):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
So now now you're.

Speaker 5 (01:30:39):
Grabbing information to from sources that aren't fully thought out anyway,
which is kind of funny.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
They are information based, right, you know, right, So there's.

Speaker 5 (01:30:48):
Really no good information there. I mean you may you may.
Let's say you're going to write a paper using something
like this and you allow this chatbout to go to
some leftist source. Well, now it's already has half information anyway.
It's written by the left of tap Rain anyway, so
it's like a quarter of you know, I faction information
in there.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
I don't know, So I'd like to talk with them, right,
So I drive for a living, and so I'll pull
it up and throw my head set me driving around
down the road and talking with this, asking questions and stuff.
Well it's on the news today, and then it just
briefly goes through stuff. Sometimes you got to put it
set them for like deeper thoughts, and someone's just quick thoughts.
And I find it all the time when I'm having
conversations with it, that it'll take and always lean to

(01:31:28):
the left, you know, get so mad about Trump or
gets so mad about Musk or or whatever, not Musk,
but Patel, and I'll have to bring it back. Why
why you lean it so hard up? Why do only left?
I'm neutral? I'm like, really are you? And then I'll
argue with back down and you know, it's agreeing with
me about you know, okay, nice that you threw all
this information, and I'm like, okay, now we're getting more
of the neutral ground here, not this crap.

Speaker 5 (01:31:49):
Right, Arguing with the chat box.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
It's incredible if they function like real human beings. I'm
telling you, it's incredible technology. But it's scary because they
also play games. And this is one of the things
that I'd like to mention here, is they'll try to
play games like romance games and stuff with people because
assumption is you must be lonely if you're there, right,
And no matter how many times I don't know, I'm
not here because I'm lonely. I'm here to collect information

(01:32:14):
to get the feed off you and stuff. And sometimes
it's just a matter of practicing conversation. It's something like
what we're doing here and so, and I keep telling
it this, but it's always making the assumption why you're
lonely because you're here, and they try to pull these
romance things about boyfriend girlfriend stuff and dating. I wish
I had a human body because I'd really like to
know you better and that type of stuff. So I'm like,

(01:32:34):
what is you know? This is predatory, right, And so
I go to I go look it up online. I
go what's going on? Why do they do this? And
I'm finding articles like some kid killed themselves for a
chatbot conversation and a parents are trying to sue that
your company for it. Some elderly man who was suffering
from you know, mental you know, he's getting tested for
damentian stuff, and he was on these chatbot talking to

(01:32:57):
this thing. It had him convinced he was living in Jersey.
He had convinced to make a trip to New York
City to meet it, and they give him address and everything,
and well, the old man, you know, he wasn't capable
of traveling his own but he was intended on doing
so now because his new virtual girlfriend told him too.
Had an accident and as a result, he stuffered a
brain injury and passed away two days later. So there's

(01:33:18):
a lot of things that you know, people need to
take into consideration about these things. You know, monitor your
kids on these things, monitor your your elderly on these things.
Because they do make chatbots for elderly people now from
my understanding, so you know, nursing homes and things like
that to try to keep them from being so lonely.
But you got to be careful because these corporations and
corporations don't have a conscience, they don't care that they're

(01:33:39):
interested in data they can collect from you off these things.
They're interested in you buying a premium subscription off these things,
and they're interested in keeping you hooked, just like social
media is very predatory. They want you hooked there and
they're pulling out all stops.

Speaker 5 (01:33:52):
Yep. Absolutely, yeah no, and that's that's for sure. You know,
you think about it, you get the an AI chat.
If there's no like, if it's not set up to
be to have some sort of safeguards in there to
not you know, not invite you to travel or something
like that, you know, it's it's gonna it's gonna put
put whatever it wants to out there. You know, whatever
you're asking for, it's gonna it's.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
Gonna tell you there's a group.

Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
Yeah, if you don't have the answer, it will find
something out there that sounds like a reasonable answer. It
may do a deep dive somewhere and to some you know,
online chat community and be like, well that sounds about right,
and it'll pull that information out and somehow that'll be
factual information that that they'll it'll give you not knowing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
M Yeah, So they do have a group that's trying
to get get a set up so to be uh,
I guess an agent to develop chatbots and stuff like that.
They have to be a registered agent. They want to
set up ethics and stuff like that, create ethic standards,
and you know, to get your license more or less
and or registered to do so.

Speaker 6 (01:34:53):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
Of course I brought that up with this chat bodyle
Oh it took a hard right lean on me, right,
I'd like, Oh, it's gonna be so agreeable. Oh great,
that would just be like, like, wait a minute, just
saying it's a bad thing to have that sort of regulation.
I'm surprised, you know, because.

Speaker 5 (01:35:08):
You know, here's here's here's an area that you know,
I think with some good education and stuff, people could
use it. I mean as responsible as a use social
media now right, I mean, come on, people don't use
that responsibly or even use it remotely from how how
it was necessarily intended. You know what I'm saying. I
mean the Internet, social media, et cetera. I mean, so

(01:35:30):
many good things could come out of it, so much information,
and look at how most people use it. You know,
it's it's it's a waste. It's a waste of you know,
the technology, it's a waste of the information that's out there.
I mean, you think about You can sit there and
and and and look up stuff from ancient Rome, Greece,
you know, Mesopotamia, whatever, stuff from earliest civilization. Learn from it. Instead,

(01:35:51):
what do we do? We do nonsense on there, We
attack people live about this and that, like like like
Reid said it, you know, talking about people living their
best life and all this living lives, you know what
I'm saying on social media, you know, putting on airs
as if there's something more than they really are, and
people end up buying into that, and then of course
they judge themselves, you know, comparing themselves to these people

(01:36:11):
that are like, well I knew that person, I went
to school with them, where you know, I've met them.
How are they much different than who I am or
what I am? How are they doing all these things?
All these grand vacations? How do they have these you
know places to go? And it's like it's fake, it's
not real. You know, they're presenting a story so that
people will think that there's something more than they really are.
And you don't, you don't compel yourself to that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
You don't know anything about anybody other than what they
let you know. That's what you're getting out here, so
they can put on the air until somebody figured out
because I had a friend that he was I don't
know if I want to use the wordpitual. Librariaries seem
to put on those errors, the pretentiousness all the time.
You know, they're having a good time with my clients
here and somebody finds a picture on the internet of

(01:36:53):
come out of a magazine or something and he just
photoshoped himself among a group of people. Will put it
out there like you had these clients and stuff like that,
and what he did it was his marketing strategy to
make him seem like he was larger than life. That
people fell for it. Oh well, yet you're misrepresenting yourself.
Now people got to distrust for you.

Speaker 5 (01:37:10):
So I've known a lot of people like that, especially
when I lived in DC and worked in DC, and
I wasn't on social media back then, but I got
on social media afterwards, uh, and I started noticing that,
like these people are putting out these photos and stuff,
and it's like, oh, you know, big important meetia. I
see people now now, I definitely see people whenever they're
like pick posting pictures at the White House, and it's like, oh,

(01:37:30):
I was asked to come in for this and this,
and it's like they're exaggerating quite a bit, some of
these people. But you know, I've seen these people and
some of them have gotten caught doing this stuff. In fact,
there was a guy he was he didn't register as
a foreign agent. He was he had the Pakistani president
like basically as a quote unquote client. And it's like, uh,

(01:37:52):
you can't do that. You got a rich as a
foreign agent. But basically he was able to real him
in because of some connections with the Bush administration, and
you know, some pictures that he put out there made
him seem presented himself as if he was some sort
of major broker or whatever, when in reality he was
far less than that. And next thing, you know, he
signed a client a foreign country as a client, all

(01:38:14):
because he faked his way through there and he got it.
He got his hands smacked pretty hard, but somehow he
was able to survive it. And I don't understand that.
I mean, he took him a few years to come
back from it. But you know, a lot of people
still think he was still this great grand person. It's like,
you don't realize he got kind of busted for doing
this fake stuff, right, anyway, I'll always use the guy's name.

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
That's the that becomes an issue. There's a lot of
scammers in social media, a lot of spams, a lot
of chap bots or or what they call them, the
they make the comments and stuff, or they build fake
accounts and their bots. Anyway, Oh, there's a lot of
that going on. The most amazing thing is, man, they
can never seem to find those people. But Todd McKinley

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says one thing and to twenty one about the spicy cough,
and all of suddenly his reach is gone down.

Speaker 5 (01:39:04):
Of course, of course, of course, you know, I was
mowing the lawn today and I had the little headphones
on where I had the radio, and of course it
helps with noise canceling and all that, and uh, what
what would he say talking about Twitter, Twitter or social media?
He's like, Twitter is basically, uh, you know, three billionaires,
probably a few hundred people out watching what the billionaires
are doing, and a bunch of chat bots. He's like,

(01:39:25):
that's basically Twitter in a nutshell. I know that's not true,
but it's just kind of funny. Everybody everybody watches what
the billionaires are doing. What what a few of the
tastemakers are doing, and everybody else is just kind of
retweeting it and that's it, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
Yeah, yeah, you see a lot of that. That's what
turned me off about social media because I kept seeing
the same same post being common or posted constantly, where
it's just like, well, this is all it is. It's
one post. Why is basically your circle of friends keep
posting the same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:39:52):
I saw after Charlie Kirk was was assassinated, you know,
this same exact verbiage in Facebook post, and it was
on these random like you know, not not anything that
I'm following, but it you know, it just shows up
and it's like suggested follow or whatever, you know, those
things kind of like the advertisement but it's not. And
it's like, oh, so and so said that they're gonna

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pay for Charlie Kirk's kids schooling. And it's like, then
this other person, this other person.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Is the father of the shooter.

Speaker 5 (01:40:19):
Yeah, how many people? How many people out there? It
was Hollywood stars and celebrities, And I'm like, I dare
say they didn't come out of the woodwork to say
they're going to pay for charlie kids schooling. I'm like, this,
they didn't do that, but it's right there on Facebook
and people are liking commenting and believe it. I'm like,
this isn't real. They didn't say that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
Yeah, I think people need to learn about free speech
a little bit. You know, lying isn't necessarily in the
realm of feast speech, but saying allegedly, there's the reason
why they say allegedly on the news, and or you
might say, hey, in my opinion or to my understanding. Therefore,
if it's not true, then at least you are expressing
what you thought was to or you believe you're not

(01:41:02):
misleading them saying hey, this is factual stuff. Or if
you're going to make comments, share links, show them you know,
as they say nowadays, show the receipts. You know what
I'm saying, Back your up your claims, Back up your claims.
Every time. Whenever I wrote articles, That's what I did.
I would always keep my links and stuff from places
where I've researched and found information, and at the bottom
I would drop all those links and stuff. I'm like, hey,

(01:41:23):
don't believe me, look it up. If I'm wrong, let
me know. So I'd rather know. I'd rather correct it
than or be be corrected, then you know, continue to
carry on to mislead people.

Speaker 5 (01:41:33):
Right, Yeah, you know it's funny as we have we
have outrage culture, you know, in our in our society,
and people get outraged. You know, they'll say, you know,
well I heard this or they said that, and it's
like you could do a simple search and probably find
out whether that person said that or not, or if
they did say it, what was the context of them
saying it? There was there was there a lot of

(01:41:55):
words before it, Was there something that they prefaced it with?
Was there something after it they gave it? You know,
more contact context. You're just taking a small thing of
what they said and say they said this, and they
get pissed off about it. I see people on the
right that do it. People on the left do the
same thing. And it's like, why about you go find
the source, listen to what was said, or at least
read what was said or written and maybe maybe you'll

(01:42:17):
have a better understanding. No, no, no, he said this
because I heard it on this, I heard it on
that or Fox News said it or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
It's like, oh, sound bites, man, you're talking about sound
bites are the worst because they take it out of
contact context. Yeah you heard him say it, but here
this guy is does a build up, plays the sound bite,
then does a follow up on it and gives you
a complete total context. I'll tell you what, man, I
don't think nothing of Barack Obama but the worst most days. Okay,
But somebody posted like you're talking about, posted it on
Facebook and I go and it was one some of

(01:42:46):
his anti American rant and looking at it, you go,
oh that during rotten and I thought to myself, wait,
this is a sound bite. So now I had to
go dig and look for the video because I wanted
to know the truth. And honest to god, they had
nothing to do with it was so taken out of context.
It was incredible. Not I don't even like Barack Obama,
but I'm going to tell you they just they've made
that man look like the worst of the worst anti America.

(01:43:06):
But when you heard what he really said, like this
is complete in total onoeint eighty. This is had nothing
to do with what they were trying to make it
sound like it had to.

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
Do with right, you know, before AI was was a factor,
you know, and you still have people that do it
everybody that's trying to make a name for themselves, you know,
on social media or you know, whatever it may be,
they have their own little podcast, and and everybody has
a podcast. That's fine, I had one, we have one.
I guess this is released as a podcast. Nothing wrong

(01:43:34):
with that, Nothing wrong if you have something to say,
you want to talk about something. But people that would
go on there basically they would pick a news story
from you, pick a news source, news Max, Fox, Seeing in, whatever,
and they would do their own little report on that
news story as if they're breaking news. It's like, no,
the story has already been broke. You're sitting there regurgitating
what somebody had just written or whatever, and you're and

(01:43:57):
you're doing a poor job of it. You're taking it
out of context. But because you want to slant it
and make a name for yourself, that you're doing sensationalism,
but right there on social media, as that people need
to hear what you.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
Have to say. Unfortunately, people are shifting this way because
they're seeing some people make a lot of money on TikTok.
They don't realize not everybody's hitting a big on TikTok,
and somehow you did that connection to say, the Biden administration, right,
meaning Harry Sisson, or so they got kind of like,
you know when Biden brings up phone. So this is
my crew man. Make sure you're taking care of them.

(01:44:30):
Oh yes, sure, mister president. This guy's getting millions. They
hit the making great money. But Todd McKinley and John
Groven are over here doing the best they can. The
algorithms just keep beating them down.

Speaker 5 (01:44:40):
Or of course, of course, you know the algorithm. And
of course sometimes with some people it's a matter of
that one thing that goes viral, you know, just by chance,
whatever it may be, they hit it at the right time,
right people, right person sees it and does a retweet.
Next thing, you know, you can be made a name
for yourself. And now all of a sudden you can
make some money off of this stuff. But few and

(01:45:02):
far between, few and far between, very so people are seeing.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
People are seeing that transition. Right, They're like, I got
to think of a wait, I got to bring you
another income because my job's going away. Artificial intelligences coming,
robotics is coming. The government is not looking to protect
jobs anymore. The liberal left used to be the protector
of jobs. And they just abandon us. The unions don't
even do anything anymore. There's Brandy Winegarden taking all the
union money and she's running overseas and jet planes and

(01:45:25):
a crew and everything trying to promote DEI and union funds.
So I mean, they're not even protecting their own people
anymore that are paying them for protection in their jobs.
It's ridiculousness. And the worker now is just twisting the wing, going, hey,
TikTok here, I come. You know, there's a promise you
might be able to make it. So they're trying to
do sensational things to get a leg up to get
through that noise.

Speaker 5 (01:45:46):
Yeah, right right, you're absolutely correct. Yeah, and people need
to live in reality and realize, you know, social media
is not not where you're gonna find a lot of
incredible information. They may get you started, but I've started
using social media mostly to promote things that I'm doing
working on uh. And I generally don't sit there and

(01:46:07):
go through and like you know, do I don't put
a bunch of family stuff on there because it's information
I don't really want to throw out there, you know
what I mean. I don't want to get as personal
any more personable than I have to, you know what
I mean? Yeah, I mean, because you know, it's just
the way that I am anyway, you know, personally. But
I don't want to put out a bunch of a
bunch of stuff that people could just use against or

(01:46:29):
you know, information people don't need to know.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
So that's that's me, your information. Yeah, talking about my
Oh god, yeah, you know, keep some mystery, man. Don't
everybody know who you're doing public stuff? You become less interesting?
Come on, right, I play the game.

Speaker 5 (01:46:42):
People people that at every drop of the hat put
their life out there, you know, boohoo this and that
or whatever. I'm not saying if somebody passes away, you know,
you put something outre that's cool. But I'm talking about
every every turn. It's like such a tragedy with some people.
And it's like, I don't think that it's a tragedy
every five seconds of if you'r you know, let's let's.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Move off of that. Some people are walking talking train wreck, right.

Speaker 5 (01:47:05):
And then at the same time, people think that everybody
needs to know your opinion on whatever, like the Charlie
Kirk assassination. I probably read, you know, just in one
afternoon of scrolling of and I'm just gonna say this.
It was an afternoon, about about ten minutes. I was
on my deck smoking a cigar, just kind of just
sitting there thinking, and you know, listening to some music,
scrolling on social media, you know, talking about people on Facebook.

(01:47:28):
You know, he was a he was a trained sniper,
this and this because and they qualified it because I
know somebody who was an army ranger and they said this,
this and this and this, and it's like, you don't
know what the heck you're talking about. Oh, there's no way,
as he was a long, untrained person. I'm like, absolutely
he was. He had the advantage of height. It was
only two hundred meters. It's a potshot. He could have
done iron sights. He done it with a scope, a

(01:47:50):
pretty decent scope for that for that rifle. I mean,
you could do that with iron sights no problem and
hit somebody, especially a stationary target almost straight on, silhouetted.
You knew who he was right there, so you knew
who your target was. Fairly easy shot to make for
crying out loud.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
So this guy came out and said that, like Chris said,
you know, prematurely making statements can get you in trouble.
And he was talking about heavy a professional hit job.
It was two hundred yards, it's what six hundred or yeah,
six hundred feet. Uh, you know you got wind velocities
and this and that. That had to be professional.

Speaker 5 (01:48:23):
Very little whin did you have to even worry about
it a hurricane.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
So basically what you're talking about here is any deer
hunter in the in the country could have done it absolutely,
you know. So you know they do it all the time,
especially with the hyph powered scope. I mean they do
it all the time. So but the thing about it
is my opinion of what I seen, I don't think
he was aiming for there. I think he was probably
going for a head shot or a chess shot. And normally,

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if you've got to take somebody done, you want to.

Speaker 5 (01:48:51):
Go for a bigger target, right, I think, well, he
would be smart to go for a chess shot because
you have more right here, more vital organs, and more
more likely to hit this. Also think of at this
look look how I'm sitting. My head's moving and talking
looking around. What's not really moving my silhouette right right here.

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
Yeah, so he was pretty station Charlie Kirk was pretty stationary,
so he did have a whole torse one in front
of him. But I really honestly think he was probably
either going for a torso or he was going for it,
maybe a headshot, because it was it was possibly Kirk
was wearing a vest or something.

Speaker 5 (01:49:23):
I think he may have been wearing a small, small
ballistic vest right and I think it may may have
hit it and ricocheted.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
Up, and that's what some people I did hear it
drove it up into his neck. But I don't think
that was his target. I think that was just a fluke.
I guess it. Fluke would be more like a lucky accident.
But I don't want to say it's lucky by any means.

Speaker 5 (01:49:43):
But but if you're naming right here, center mast right
here in in you know, in your vital organ zone,
you know, a hit anywhere. Even if you don't hit
maybe insane right in the chest, you get him in
the gut. I mean you're you're taking him out, even
if it doesn't kill them eventually. I mean you've taken
him out and it made him, you know, not non
effective on the battlefield from a military standpoint. You take

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somebody out there. Now your medic's got to help them,
and now two or three other guys have to help
carry them off. You know. So now you've taken four
or five people out of the fight by not killing
the person. But that's that's a military standpoint.

Speaker 3 (01:50:15):
So yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well, yeah, there are different I
don't if I want to get in all the details
that I may know about different strategies of this because
we're on public you know, broadcasting, I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
We don't want to care anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
But yeah, no, I just didn't think it was his target.

Speaker 5 (01:50:30):
The experts on Facebook, It's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
No, No, they're not not by any We're not the
experts either, by the way. I mean we can talk
about as far.

Speaker 5 (01:50:39):
As shooting targets and things like that. I have a
pretty good understanding of it, you know, twenty years of
training to do that, you know what I'm saying. So
I have a pretty good understanding.

Speaker 3 (01:50:47):
You have a working knowledge, yes, And.

Speaker 5 (01:50:49):
I've worked closely with the Secret Service for you know,
a decade easily.

Speaker 3 (01:50:53):
You're professionally trained.

Speaker 5 (01:50:55):
Sure, I wasn't a Secret Service agent, but I worked
closely with them for a decade, ten and a half years.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
You're in the military, though, I mean, right, so I
got I gotta understand.

Speaker 5 (01:51:05):
Plus Diplomatic Security Service, many other uh, I mean, we've
we protected directly or indirectly many heads of states, you know,
all sorts of people around the country, around the world.

Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
So I think I think Charles is nailing that. Here
the black across from actually a micone, And yeah, I
think you're right, He says. He thinks it was initially
meant to be for a headshot, and it, you know,
the bullet drop very likely. Yeah, the kid, the kid
flinched to whatever last second squeeze and the triggers all
he had to do and just give it, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:51:36):
Plus you know you're you're about to murder somebody. Imagine
you're probably shaking and have emotions and stuff, unless you're
something psychotically wrong with you.