The Common Sense Conservatives with Ryan Rhodes

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters every Wednesday
evening from seven to eight pm right here on WUSMN
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Making sense of the inverted reality we are subject to
you every day. The Common Sense Conservatives are here to
help bring you back to reality. Now, your hosts Chris Wyatt,
Todd mckimley and John Govind.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hey, folks, welcome back the program. John, I have to
take a look at what's going on with the restream there.
It didn't start on my channel again tonight. That's the
second time in about a month and a half.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I have no idea what goes on with that, nor
do I.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Once the stream is live, you can't do anything about it.
So we'll miss my audience tonight. So sorry about that.
But yeah, for some reason it didn't launch.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
I set it up anyway. Wow, all right, welcome back
the program, folks.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
It is Wednesday, the nineteenth November twenty twenty five, joined
by my co host in the studio, John Groves, are
up there in National New Hampshire at the studios OFUS
W S M N in National Hampshire and in East Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
It's Todd McKinley who's joining us.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
He's got the he's got the clooney look going tonight
with that three day old not shaven there, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
It, right, I'm trying to get like you, colonel.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
You got all the ways to go to get there.
You got I look a little more like Grizzly Adams
than you do. Grizzley Adams did have a beard.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
By the way, I think that makes it about five
days and he can't he can't escape the razor.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Yeah, yeah, no, a couple of days, I'll shave it off.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well, I told maudience today that you know, I can't
afford razors. The price went up so much to the
Biden regime that they're just too expense. And that's why
I don't cut my beard.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Right, it's out of necessity, not protest.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Right, exactly. Well, folks, tonight we have a guest on.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Ryan Rhoads, a congressional candidate from Iowa'll get him on
here in just a few minutes from the Iowa's fourth district,
which includes Story County. The home of Iowa State University
go cyclones, which is apropos that I have Tonight's leap
because I'm a former resident of Ames.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Iowa, lived out there.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I taught at iowas At University a few years back,
and so I know the area quite well. You know, guys,
I got to tell you, Todd, I told people when
I lived in Iowa that they can save an awful
lot of money on automobiles. Cars would be cheaper in
Iowa if they just did one thing, simply don't install
turn indicators.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Because I was the only person in the state that ever
use my turn signal.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I thought that was only Florida.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Man, Okay, well Florida too. We can save a lot
of buddy, and people do not use their turn.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Single on Iowa. They just turn their car. It's crazy.
I don't know if maybe Ryan can confirm that or not.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
That's how we're asking him to come on here a
little bit, but they maybe he can confirm that tonight.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Living there in Ams. He's a resident of Ams as well.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
So it's been a crazy week as always. You know,
before we get to our guest, just very quickly, John,
you know, for four years the Democrats had an opportunity
to release the Epstein files, Not a single doc that
was released, and nobody lost their minds. No uproar, no screaming,
no no kicking, no whaling, no claims to anything. Now,
if the Democrats had something on Donald Trump that was

(02:58):
a smoking gun from so called Epstein files, which, by
the way, four times this year the Trump administration has released
those files, if they had a smoking gun, after trying
to assassinate him twice, after fictitious trials for non existent crimes,
after two fake impeachments the first time, do you think, John,
that they might have pulled that smoking gun out during
the campaign to crush and at a minimum the October surprise, right?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
You know they would, You know they would, man, I
mean god, that had been perfect for them, Harris would
be our president rate about now as far as they're concerned. Yeah,
they would have used it at all all means.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
But the funny thing is this, They keep attacking Trump
for not releasing it, saying he's in he's in it. Well,
of course he's mentioned he's a prominent person in new
Epstein who cut ties with Epstein, was bent out of
shape and wanted to get eq with Trump and so
he mentions them all the time in messages, but that
doesn't mean he committed any crime. The Democrats are now
scrambling because their names are coming up. Larry Summers, the
former president of Havad, has resigned from open AI over

(03:55):
his entanglements that have been exposed. Now, of course he's known,
He's been tangled for years. These slimy, slippery, little demon
rats are being exposed.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
And this is what they wanted. They wanted.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Oh oh, Trump is hiding something. Trump played this like
a fiddle man. He's like a maestro. He played this
thing out. Now we've gotten through the elections, and now
he's brought it out at the right time.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
What do you think about that time?

Speaker 5 (04:17):
I think you probably spot on. You know, if there
was something in there, he would have you know, he
would have been brought out at this point. And now
all of a sudden, all these messages and text messages
back and forth, you know, give me some information. I'm
up next for questioning, you know, and all this stuff.
It's like, who's in cahoots with this guy? Well after
the fact, after he was a convicted pedophon and already
went to prison in Florida, and you're sitting there and
wanting to get information from him. You want to help him,

(04:39):
ask him to help you, donate money to your campaigns,
whatever your packs. Dangerous people. These are the people that
need to be investigated.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Absolutely, it's crazy. I see that I was able to
actually change it. They've updated site now, so my audience
hopefully they'll join us here. It just went live on
my channel. You know what happened there For some reason,
I got toggled off, but it's on now. I was
actually on Twitter though, so surprise, surprise.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Wasn't expecting that.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Right, he is here. Anytime you guys are ready, I
can bring him in perfect I assume.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Okay, well, ladies and gentlem let's go ahead and bring
our guests in here. Ryan Rhoades Kendon Afford, I was
fourth Congressional district. Ryan, Are you a cyclone or are you
one of those guys that went to Iowa and now
lives in Ames?

Speaker 6 (05:19):
No?

Speaker 5 (05:19):
No, no, I went.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
I went to Iowa State.

Speaker 7 (05:22):
That's kind of how Ames became my home because I
grew up outside of Iowa City and Cedar Rapids. And
then when I went to college, my parents up and
left to be closer to uh To my dad's parents
before they passed.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
Okay, so it became that became my home.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Okay, so Ames, Ames is your home? And he went
to is Su then okay, excellent.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
I didn't check. When did you graduate from i Su?

Speaker 7 (05:45):
So I two thousand and eight, two thousand and eight
when I finished up.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
No, no, I'm too old. You couldn't have been one
of my students.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
Seventh management for golf courses.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Oh, you wouldn't have been one of my students.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Then I left in two thousand and two, nineteen, I
was sent to Iowa or to Italy.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
Excuse me, another eye went to Italy.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
So, Ryan, you you've decided to run it for the
for that fourth congressional seat, which of course includes Story
County right in the middle of the state. It's western
I well, but it has a finger that kind of
goes over right into the center. And of course right
below you is Polk County. That's des Moines, and so
there are two different congressional districts. I see that you're
a staunch conservative. We've got a lot to talk about
in this hour. Uh So I'm going to go ahead

(06:25):
and get a started here. I tend to steal all
the oxygen as far as asking questions of the guest,
but I think that's by design. Todd and John just
trying to push it my way all the time. So
I'm just going to get it started. So, Ryan, I
see that you have never held office, but you're not
exactly a political neophyte. I've noticed that you were the
founder of the Tea Party in Iowa.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
And also you worked on Ben Carson's presidential campaign and
you also worked for Michelle Bachman on her campaign, So
you you have background in politics, you understand it.

Speaker 7 (06:57):
Yeah, Yeah, I've been I've been in and around. That's
actually how me and Todd met. We did advance work
for the White House under the Trump administrations, right, lots
of lots of trips and a lot of fun there,
the Tea Parties kind of what where. I just couldn't
couldn't keep myself away from politics after Actually I did

(07:19):
run once in the worst possible district, the worst possible
year two thousand and eight during the Obama wave in
like a pluck.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
I didn't realize it, didn't think about it at the time.

Speaker 7 (07:30):
It was a plus twenty eight Democrat district, but we
put up a heck of a fight, and they had
to spend a lot of money, a lot of money
they didn't want to spend in a race they shouldn't
have had to spend it in.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Well, we appreciate that both Todd and I about you know,
picking the wrong race. You know, it's both of us
have run for a state legislature and it didn't go
so well for us. But h it's you know, it's
it's politics is a bizarre game. So anyway, so you're
running this time, and I understand it's because in part
it looks like the current representative's been there for a
few years is going to run for governor.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
That's is it free?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (08:05):
What's uh?

Speaker 7 (08:09):
He is officially announced for governor governor. So that created
an open primary in this race, and I really felt
called to jump in. And I think we need in
strong conservative districts, We need strong conservative fighters because too
often we get in these districts.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
And we get really, quite frankly, a lot.

Speaker 7 (08:27):
Of weak people who aren't pushing pushing the Overton window
our way, who aren't fighting the left the way. When
you have a left district, you get AOC Jasmine Crockett,
ilan Omar and I just think we've got to we've
got to have our own people, hopefully that are smarter,
smarter than that and more articulate, but but fighting nonetheless

(08:48):
for our conservative values.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well, before we get into that, let's talk a little
bit about Tea Party and what you got got you
into this? I mean, the fact that you were associated
Tea Party and the founder there in the great state
of Iowa would be obvious indicate that you care about
small government, restraint, spending, fiscal responsibility, Second Amendment, the sanctity
of life, national defense. Those are core values I've imagine
for you. Ye, So there you go. So what got

(09:12):
you into this? I mean, the Tea Party is now,
it's been a while ago, about fifteen sixteen years that
this thing kicked off, maybe seventeen, the antecedent origins of it.
What got you into it? Was there something driving, something
that didn't seem right to you that got you involved
in the Tea Party?

Speaker 6 (09:25):
Moving Well, I really.

Speaker 7 (09:27):
Just more and more saw things in our country going
a really wrong direction.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
I saw what Barack.

Speaker 7 (09:33):
Obama was doing, and honestly, I didn't see a lot
of other people standing up.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
There was a lot of people that came out for
the Tea Party.

Speaker 7 (09:40):
You know, but I didn't see enough people going out
there and fighting and being able to kind of corral
people and do that. So it was really fun to
be able to get out there with the Tea Party
and find so many more people willing to want to
come out and help. But really it's you know, from
there and never really stopping being involved. It just kind

(10:01):
of was like once you get once you do one
thing and you do it pretty well, they keep asking
you to do something else, and then you know, I
had a.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Passion to get out here and help fix the country.

Speaker 7 (10:11):
And I think we've got a long way to go.
But if we don't fight, then there's nothing left.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Well, you know, the Tea Party move was a fascinating thing.
Of course, I was serving active tim and Todd was
as well. If I'm not mistake, we're both serving active duty,
and so our ability to speak politically, especially for me
as commission officer, was really limited. I really just couldn't
step out of a branch there, but I observed it
and the course, I tended to vote for the Tea
Party candidates that ran in my state, which is in Ohio,
but the Tea Party was a group that was targeted

(10:38):
by the Obama administration, and we see now how the
Biden regime colluded, coerced, and cajoled tech companies to violate
the First Amendment, acting as agents of the government to
silence our speech. I was a victim of it. I
helped me on social media, and many other people were.
But the anteceedy roots of what we're seeing there actually
came the Obama administration when they targeted the Tea Party groups.

(11:01):
In fact, Lois Learner's infamous now for what I believe
were crimes that she committed in denying it taxes, m
status to these groups because they opposed Barack Obama. And
what was that like? Did you did you guys face
any of that? In the Iota.

Speaker 7 (11:13):
Party, we were on the forefront kind of of all
of that. And what was interesting is we didn't really
have the help there on any of this stuff that
people have now. You know, it was really a lot
of this stuff was really new. There wasn't the same
networks out there, and in a large part there's all
kinds of things. Credit what James O'Keefe is doing, Credit

(11:34):
what Charlie Kirk is doing or had done, and everything else.
You've started getting a momentum built out there on these
things where you have someplace to go to get help.
Back then, you were pretty much on an island island
trying to fight, and a lot of people were like, oh,
if something happened, if you're being shut down, there was

(11:55):
a lot more trust in the government going, oh, it
must be somebody must have done something wrong.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
And I didn't just deal with it there.

Speaker 7 (12:02):
We dealt with it as well with Parlor and what
was going on as we tried to bring Parlor back
online that got deplatformed, platformed and taken offline as well,
So you know, all across the board there was really
really an onslaught by agencies that were simply there supposed
to be letting people have fair play and protecting the

(12:25):
American public and the free speech.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
We're actually going and attacking it.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Well, the reason I build that background so peel get
a bit appreciation of where you're coming from, who you are,
and what your values are. I mean, if you're a
Tea party person or supporter, then you're in a good
company here in this crowd with our audience. But it
also raised a question about should you be elected to office.
Is this something you'll focus on, because quite frankly, I
want arrest warrants for Biden administration, official White House officials,

(12:51):
nationalistituots of Health, the CDC, all these clowns who silenced
our speech in violation in the First Amendment. I'm not
trying to put you in a corner here, but I mean,
if you go to Washington, if you say you're gonna
do this, somebody keep an eye on you, because I'll
come down and say, hey, I want you to push justice.

Speaker 7 (13:05):
I want these people arrested in charge. Well, there has
to be consequences to this kind of thing. You can't
essentially use the federal government to try to overthrow or
stop of sitting president a another candidate for against your opponent,
and the way they've done and they used it with

(13:25):
absolute I punity. I had friends, as I know Todd
knows them as well. Friends get subpoena, subpoena, subpoena, and
they were scaring them. They were violating all the norms.
They were not even going direct through their lawyers, like lawyers.
They the amount of due process that they violated, and
the fact is they didn't even care about the truth.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
Over and over and over.

Speaker 7 (13:46):
They were out there saying, Oh, it doesn't matter, just
say this this all right, So it didn't matter. They
just wanted to go and hang Trump up and get
their scalp. And it's really impressive how many people stood
and had the presidents back to keep this from happening,
because you know, they didn't care about the truth and

(14:08):
it's not cheap to go fight these things people. This
was costing people hundreds of thousands of dollars. Some people
that cost their house. Some people, you know, some people
did fold and fold into their you know, their their plot,
and others, Thank goodness, you know, Trump actually was able
to pay for their legal fees through the campaign and everything,
but it was it was the onslaught is so far

(14:31):
beyond what the public has even seen at this point.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
No, it absolutely is.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
And this is the true measure of what needs to
be addressed here by Congress. And it's there's an effort
now to kind of push this stuff aside by some
members in Congress, particularly Rhinos and the Democrats, but this
is something that really needs to tension. You know, the
most fundamental of our rights that are natural human rights
were violated by the government. The federal government and state governments.

(14:56):
You know, in Alabama, they had a Christian church service
in a drive in movie theater. The cars were a
bit space between them, the windows were rolled up, they
were using the speakers. The preacher wasn't even present, he
was at a different location broadcasting. It was going on
the screen, and the sheriff showed up and threatened to
arrest for everybody.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Was attending church.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Meanwhile, in New York City they closed down all Christian churches,
all synagogues, but every mosque remained open. I think there's
no no fourteenth Amendment equal protection on the law that
took place here. The crimes committed against the American people
during COVID and prior to that, ever since Obama, with
exception of the brief period that Trump Wasnolfus before, are
epic and and quite frankly, this talk about political attbutions

(15:35):
is not polical attribution. These people violated the Constitution, not
even not even laws, but the constitution are the.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Most basic law.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
And quite frankly, it's someone needs to speak out on
people's behalf because I'm not seeing it Congress right now,
I don't see any any warrants. No, no, no, grand
jury subpenis for anybody in the Biden regime who violated
their First Amendment rights.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
It's pretty scary.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
Well, look, consequences, consequences for action for egregious violations, and
action is not political retribution. And unfortunately we do have
a lot of people who like to grandstand but not
start doing things. What happened during COVID was absolutely insane.
It said a lot about our country too, because when
you are closing churches and opening bars and strip clubs,

(16:15):
you have the wrong priorities alorities, and we need to
get back to that moral foundation as a country where
our rights come from God, not government, as Chuck Schumer
wants to say. Say, but and that's really why they
thought the government had the ability to just rip them
out of people.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
So so your campaign, I see, at least the moment
less it's changed to Ballipedia has three other Republicans running
in this race. Now, I was first in a nation
with the caucuses. Is it a caucus that you'll go
to to decide this or is it a primer that
they do.

Speaker 7 (16:47):
No, the caucus is solely for the presidential cycle only.
We only do that the rest of the time. We
are on our normal schedule. So it's very busy, busy.
It's June second next year. This one's busier than it's
ever been in Iowa. There are two open house races.
There's an open Senate race and an open governor's race.

(17:08):
And we've never had those kind of changes of the
deck this much in Iowa on one singular election cycle.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I'm shocked to hear that the governor's race is open.
Isn't Terry Brandstead serving his fifty fifth term.

Speaker 8 (17:22):
Now?

Speaker 6 (17:23):
Who he just had his birthday birthday?

Speaker 4 (17:26):
But is he?

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Nydalla so?

Speaker 6 (17:29):
But no, the Kim was there.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
He went to be Trump's ambassador to China, and Kim
was Kim was there. But he definitely he was the
longest serving governor in America.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
Governor.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's well, I mean he did pretty well, but I
mean he had that job for a long time. He left,
he came back to But anyway, so let's get back
to you to your campaign. How is your campaign going
and do you see any challenges because you're in story
and much your district. You got to go out to
the north, to the northwest, and then down kind of
the southwest.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
It's I think he's the big biggest district in Iowa.

Speaker 6 (18:02):
It's it's over a third of the state, so geographically
it blows all the other districts out of the water.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
I spent eight hours in the car doing two events
on Monday. I spent six hours in the car yesterday
doing an event, getting up to an event, and uh
and I'll be in the car Today was more of
a phone call and getting working working day. And yet
tomorrow got some trips around different parts of the state
as well. So it is a lot of stuff of things.

(18:32):
I joke because uh, you know, northwest Iowa is the
bastion of conservatism up there in Sioue, Uh, Sioue, in
that area. I joked that I'm the most conservative candidate
from the most liberal part of the district, which is
just really accurate as you get out here. And uh
and so I think the nice part is is I

(18:52):
have gotten around though since I was Ben Carson state director,
did some events here for Trump Trump the IoT party
you were going, I was going around to all those
parts of the states. So I'm familiar with a lot
of folks up in you know, Sioux County, Sioux City,
which is so Siue County, Sioux City.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
Are different. We like to do that in the state
of Iowa.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Put a town in a county in a different area
but with the same name. But but those those are there,
and it's uh.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
It's fun to fun to get out and around. Not
quite so fun when it was raining, driving when it
was raining. But otherwise it's it's good and it's going well.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
And what you're getting you're getting is your message residy.
I mean, it's conservative area. But but are you I mean,
what is your challenge over the other your other opponents
in the primary. I mean, I imagine they all probably have
similar conservative values.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
If not, they're not going to win.

Speaker 7 (19:44):
You know, I think I think the difference in what
I've said is is there's a lot of people. I
definitely came out with, uh, you know, a little bit
more forceful rhetoric because I think, you know, I think
this we're running. I'm not I don't need to be
congressman men, if just for the title. But we are
in a time where these guys that are going along

(20:04):
to get along, the people who don't know what time
it is and are just doing it for their name name,
because they really want to.

Speaker 6 (20:11):
Be congressman or that has to be the next thing.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
I just don't think they're gonna go out there and fight.
I think they're gonna get get in there along. And
I think that's the difference. Don't think they're bad guys.
I just think that the difference is whether or not
you want somebody out there fighting, somebody.

Speaker 6 (20:27):
That's going to go to bat for the people or
is going to pay lip service to conservatism.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Well, I think it's a great too point, and I
would agree with you.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
You know, when I ran for the state legislature last
year because it was a vacant seat and people asked
me to run for it, I said, you know, the
challenge with the state Legislature, but also with DC, which
is where you're trying to hit to, is that many
of these people are there for self aggranted, spent self enrichment,
or craved political power.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
They're not there for the people. They're not for the constitution.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
And Todd and I know we spent each and every
day of our life in uniform supporting defending constitution. We
don't support with the funeral. There's no no leader oath
in this country. We support and defend the constitution. So
I think that your message will resonate with us. But
unfortunately Todd is in Tennessee and John is in Nashua,
and I'm in New Pennsylvanies.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
We can't vote for you. Now. If you were in Chicago,
we could all vote for you. So you know you're
not Chicago.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
You're dead relatives too exactly, you know. Yeah, it's uh,
you know that actually happens. My stepfather voted him four
elections in Ohio. My mother found out before she passed away.
He cast about four times and he's been dead for
a dozen years. So that's pretty scary in Ohio. But
Iowa is a very generally speaking conservative state. You've got outliers,
you've got you've got Iowa City, you've got Aims, you've

(21:39):
got des Moines. But beyond that, it's like red everywhere.
It's very conservative, very very interesting. Now, when I lived
in Iowa, there was a challenge. They created the Iowa
what's what's the network?

Speaker 4 (21:50):
There?

Speaker 3 (21:50):
The there was the digital network they created can'tha right now,
but Iowa created back in the nineteen nineties brilliant They
wired the entire state with fiber optics so that they
I see an io community network or something. Anyway, I
forget what it's called. But there were four thinking and
they did that because they saw that the population was
aging and a lot of youngsters were leaving farms in
rural areas and going to Minneapolis and to Des Moines

(22:13):
and the Saint Louis in Chicago place like that and
not coming back. Is this still a challenge for Isoland's
I mean, aging population? Is there any issue concerns about depopulation?

Speaker 7 (22:22):
You know, there's been a challenge really in rural Iowa
in basically a lot of the towns that are not
really getting the help there's in terms of what's going there.
So that's a big issue on the ground, is how
are we going to bring jobs, grow the economy and
help rural Iowa as opposed to where the cities tend
to always get all of the actual funds going to

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and what and whatnot. But there's a few things like
that I think. I think it's a matter of how
to help instead of just giving people hands out as well.
I'd like to see things like rural five twenty sevens
where are people instead of just.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Being for education, you could go and.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
Have like a five twenty seven version for like starting
a job, starting a company, whether it be plumbing or
welding or something like that, where you need to have
some fun funds that people can contribute to to as
you're starting your company or getting up up on a
leg up. The other thing is I think we need
to extend the opportunity zones into rural Iowa, where some

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of these towns give somebody else a reason to go
back and do more investment there instead of just focusing
on these cities.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Well that's exactly what I was hoping to go that direction. Yeah,
it's Iowa Communications Network. I think they might call it
the Iowa Community Work at one time, which is forth thinking.
They built this back in the nineteen early nineteen nineties,
before the INN really was coming online. Most people to
know about it very for thinking. My experience in Iowa
is that that leaders looked ahead, very far ahead, and
I hope that's still the case.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
But this effort here. So let's say you win.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
The election, you win the primary, and you win the primary,
I mean, you pretty darn good chance you're going to
in the general election. The same thing here in my
district because it's solid conservative. But you get to d C.
What's the first thing you want to do in DC.
I mean, there's so much that needs to be addressed.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
You know that it's it's funny, you get funny on
that question. I there's a million and one things.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
I think.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
One I do think actually in terms of directly for Iowa,
those things that can help rural Iowa that I mentioned,
trying to expand that because I think those are quick
things that can potentially be done that.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
Will have a lot of help there.

Speaker 7 (24:30):
I also believe that we have got to go and
we have to fight this scourge of to really transgenderism
and what they're doing to our children across the board.
That has to be that needs to be codified, that
needs to be stopped from here.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
And further, I know we dance around.

Speaker 7 (24:46):
The edges with it, but we need to make sure
that that is one hundred percent, you know, just not
there going forward because what they're doing is really really
dangerous for generations and generations to come.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
So those those are a number of the things I'd
like to do.

Speaker 7 (25:03):
Get the DOGE, you know, talk to them about making
sure these DOGE cuts are permanent, and then some.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Well next year is kind of a big deal. You're
running in a year for the two hundred and fiftieth Anniversity,
United States. And I'll read just a moment from the
second paragraph of that declaration. We hold these truths to
be self evident, that all men are created equal, that
they are endowed by the Creator with certain unailable rights,
that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

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That secure these rights, governments are institute among men, deriving
their just powers from the consent to the government. And
that whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends,
it is the right of the people to alter or
abolish it, and institute new government, laying its foundations and
such principles, and organize its powers in such form as
to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety
and happiness. And it goes on from there. But it's

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kind of a big deal. You were going to Washington,
d C.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
If you win this race in.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
The year well, you will actually arrive in seventy seven,
but you'll be running for office the two hundred fiftyth
University America has that sunk in? Have you thought about that?
I mean, what an epic time.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Plus it'll be the last two years of Trump aministration
when you get there.

Speaker 8 (26:06):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
Well, I guess.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
I mean, I've thought about the two fifty in the
context of I went to Trump's kickoff rally in Iowa,
so I was there for the America two fifty celebration
then excited about that stuff.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
It's awesome to see what they're doing and all of
the events they've got going on. But I guess I.

Speaker 7 (26:27):
Hadn't really thought about it directly in relation to that's
the year that I'm running in. But I do think
if we want to have two hundred and fifty more years,
that we are going to have to really like I
think the best years can be ahead of us. But
I do think that we have got to get this
under control or they won't be well.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
And it's you come from find tradition of Iowans who
stood up for this union. In Marrietta, Georgia, which I've
gone down to before, you find a Civil War cemetery
and there's a monument to the Iolands who perish there
fighting battles. It's just you're trying to preserve the union.
It's a long history of the Islands who have made
a big difference to the Civil War.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
All over. Iowan's thought it was it really made a
major impact here, and.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
I don't think a lot of people can't realize that
Iowa was a state back then and it was realize
that you guyhould give you from Iowa coming out, But
going to d C in the last two years of
Trump administration, have you thought about that because that seat
is going to be critically important because there's a chance
that the lunatics will will win in the asylum and
we might lose the majority in the House, although I

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don't think it's going to happen, but a lot of
a lot of the media trying to portray this is
the Republicans are going to lose next year the majority
and that that could put you in the minority and
make it challenging.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
Well, I think it's all the more reason to have
strong people who are going to back the president, back
this agenda and help him, help him finish his two
years year term and then hopefully lay the groundwork so.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
That we can hold in twenty twenty eight as.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
Well, because I don't I do think that it's very
very important to be able to get out there and
be strong so that we can get another four years
to really solidify a lot of what's going on, and
I do think we have great people there could be
jd Vance very very much so. And we're gonna need

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folks that are actually going to going to like hold
that line so that they can't come in and really
tear out everything that's been done. So that's that I
think would be very exciting to.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
Be there for that time.

Speaker 7 (28:33):
And as we're going into into things, and I think
it's all the more reason you're gonna need somebody that's
really ready to go there and understands what we're up against.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Well, I appreciate that, and that's why I was asking
the question. You know it it's gonna be a consequential
time in our history, and that's why it's important to
have strong voices, you know. But I also appreciate that
it would be interesting and exciting to be there for
those last two years of Trump's time in office. You know,
when I retired from the Army of twenty nineteen, it
was just in time. If I'd been another year later,
I would have had Joe Biden's autopend signature of my
retirement letter.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
But instead I have a Trump signatrow my retirement letters.
Thank good for that. So speak of lighthearted moments. Let's
change up a little bit.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
While you were waiting the background were able to hear
our commentary at the start of the show. I heard some,
I heard some.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Okay, Well, I just want to ask this question.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
I mean, can I get you to introduce get someone
in the state legislature, if you'd elected, introduce a bill
to remove turn signals from cars and Iowa because I
was the only person of the state use my turn signal,
I will.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
I will neither confirm or deny if I'm good at
using a turn signal. But but I definitely do know
that especially when you drive or drive around the road,
you start well going, man, there's a lot of bad
drivers in different places.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
I you got to be you got to be alert.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
Somebody almost you know, head on to me the other
night at about twelve fifteen coming home home. So, whether
it's turn signals anything else, we have some we might
have some driving coaching to do.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
I do I think about the truckers.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
Actually, the more I drive, like man, these truckers deal
with this across the country every day with any.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
X on the road.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
But no, I mean outside of the turn signals, I
do think there's a lot better drivers than I want Washington,
d C.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Well, I think that's fair too.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
That yeah, that's because the probably with DC is people
are transplant It's a lot of them come from places
they're not accustomed to weather and not accustomed conditions.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
But no, I just a lighthearted moment, I thought, I
asked a question.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
No, But I mean, it's it's crazy because most of
the roads are just straight and I when they're pretty
flat in a lot of places. So now that's one
of the biggest challenges. I had went to Minneapolis and
was coming back and white out, you know, trying to
file find the interstate back down towards Aims and just
it's it's difficult. They got the snow markers out, but
the snow just kept coming down. It's pretty crazy stuff.
So that presents another question here. I was one of

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these places that has some weather challenges, and of course
the lunatics and the and the climate zealots who have
their faith and religion, they are trying to affect legislation
and that stuff comes up a lot. Is that something
you thought about here, that this green energy and you know,
and the carbon and all this other stuff that they're
always pushing.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
Look, I think I think they're they they're gonna see
a turn where I think they're losing a little ground
right now on a lot of this because I just
saw an article that they're talking about, well, the climate
change and the global warming could lead us into a
new ice age. Wait, I thought everything's going to get
too hot, you know. And I think that the more
people talk about it, and you even see on podcasts

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and everything else, the more people go people go, wait
a minute, I don't know if there's Greta Thunberg and
all this other junk is quite going to do it now.
I don't think they're gonna stop pushing it on us,
because this is a lot of this is coming from
foreign countries that are trying to get us to deplete
ourselves so that they can they can run up like
China and others. But but yeah, I would very much

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stand against the uh, the climate climate hysteria that is
going out there. And I think we you know, we're
also going to have to look at stuff and stuff
and talk about how we shouldn't in some cases be
tinkering with our own weather.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah, well, I think that's a topic that definitely we
will save that one for another day together weather.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
But no, that's a very valid point. Though.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
The whole purpose the Paris Climate Accord was to bankrupt
the Europe and the United States and Japan. That's really
the whole purpose of it, and just redistribute wealth the
people around the world, because that's what it essentially does. Meanwhile,
China builds three hundred and fifty cove fire power plants
every year, which is more than we even have in
this country, and nary words said about But let me
shift here to some of the I think are key
issues for you, based on what I've seen from your

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your your literature, and your website. Second Amendment, but one
that got my attention here because this changed things in
Virginia a couple of years ago.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
And this is when the tide began to turn against
woke in DEI.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
It started in Virginia when Glenn Youngkin ran for governor
and that that girl was raped in a school and
the school board covered it up, and they had a
transgender female, which is a biological male, raped the girl
in the bathroom, and that changed the whole tune. So
this issue of transgender women competing in sports, this is
a big ISSU Is it a problem and I were,
I'd say probably is it a challenge in eye with

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it's come up, because it certainly is an issue in
many parts of the country.

Speaker 7 (33:06):
Well one I am actually also proud to say I
was part of the group that helped expose that stuff
in Virginia. We worked with the guys on the ground
and then seventeen seventy six action with Ben Carson as
well as Vince Haley and those guys to do we
helped get that that info well with the guys on
the ground and really blow it up so that that

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became a big issue in that race and.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
In Iowa it is you see it.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
It may we may not have quite as big of
a story as that particular one coming out out, but
we see it over and over where they continue trying
to put stuff in the schools.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
They're really trying to go after the school boards.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
So some of the stuff is out there, it just
hasn't quite some of it hasn't been fully exposed yet.
I do think our legislator has done a good job
in moving back and fighting against a lot of this nonsense.
But they're never going to stop up. I mean, that's
kind of why we said make America Iowa is if
we aren't.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
Pro active, they will be. So if we if we're
we can't just sit and wait for defense.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
Right, We're not gonna play a prevent defense anymore because
that's not getting us anywhere. We have to be pro
active in stopping this and pushing and making sure it
can't come here and it gets torn out of places
all over the country.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Well, Ryan, we're talking about some issues why I was specifically,
which obviously be interested to islands, but of course you'll
be representing the state and and and and to a
to also to the same degree the nation as a whole.
You would vote in the House representatives represent the nation.
So obviously you have some experience that you've talked about.
You revolved in that and some other things. But what's
this this this Save our Bacon Act thing is California?

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Think tell us a little bit about that. That's because
that's something sounds like you might be able to get
some federal legs.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
They stop, Well, yeah, they've they've sent uh, they've that
that that actually was some good, good legislation that was
gone through that was sponsored by folks in Iowa that
promoted but what's happened all over is you see this
left and right right.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
So California is so big.

Speaker 7 (35:08):
This happened with cars as well, that drove the price
up right, California and New York mission is so big,
big that they go, We're just going to enact laws
on the state level and everybody else is going to
have to go and deal with them.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
And so California has used that a lot.

Speaker 7 (35:22):
Well, what California did was they they used California Prop twelve, okay,
and they went out there and they really just were
trying to use Prop twelve to tell basically Iowa how
they were going to do their agriculture culture. And so
it's that's one of the things where it's not just
the moral issues, it's not just those, it's every single

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issue that they are trying to push their agenda on us.
And as we've seen, there's not a whole lot great
good left in California. There, you've got Newsome, you can't
win at the top of the governor's race race, but
they want to shove their liberalism down the throats of
every single state in America. And so that's really about

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getting out there and saying I don't love, don't I
don't love having to do federal legislation to control a staple.
You can't allow them to push that across the country
because they are using their state to force themselves on us.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
No, it's crazy what happens.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
And of course we live in a union of sovereign states.
But there's the primacy clause in the Constitution which says
certain things are the primacy of the federal government, immigration
being one of them. I want to get that in
a second here, but you know, just to mention, you
know a situation similar here in Pennsylvania. We pay higher
electricity rates to subsidize the Northeast. They've shut down their
power plants, and then we generate the power here and

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we as Pennsylvania's get punished for their consumption. We pay
extra taxes for carbon under the Regional Greenhouse Gas initie
of REGIE, which is a scam. And so we're paying
probably about three or four or five cents more per
kill a lot hour than we should be paying because
we're subsidizing Connecticuts and Massachusetts, gosh forbid, and New Yorkers
who are used our electricity, and we're the ones paying

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the price. It's really it's horrific there. But let me
let me shift to the immigration thing here, because that's
a big issue. That's a big reason why Trump became president.
And you know a lot of people always liked to
to contort things and take the Statue of Liberty in
New York, which was a gift of friendship between the
French people in America, it wasn't an immigration thing. And
some leftists put a poem there and they put it,
give me your tired, give me your port No, give

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me your talented, give me your bias and brightest.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
That's what we really want.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
But Kennedy does that.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
They get all the credit.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
They only let the doctors and lawyers and dentists and
and and agronomis come in the country. They tell all
the poor people that have no skills not come in.
But in America, we've had a very strange immigration policy,
and we've had policies that are bankrupt, let millions of
people flood in this country. In fact, was it it
in Iowa just where someone was elected mayor they're a criminal,
alien vader, not even a citizen. I think it was
in Iowa, mayde it was Colorado. It just happened this envembor.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
Yet, so that was not in Iowa.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
But in Iowa we had our school board superintendent who
was a non citizen who lied on all those forms
and really had a whole litany of problems there and
was in our country illegally, And so I don't know
how they got through the background check. Almost the more
you got into it, there's people getting up there defending him.
The more you got into it, the more you found

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out his entire resume was a lie basically, you know,
from start A to b, A to Z. And the
other thing I think too about this immigration you joke
the Statute.

Speaker 6 (38:26):
Of Liberty thing.

Speaker 7 (38:27):
They also said those longing to be free, and unfortunately
what we have are classes that are not longing to
be free anymore. We have people coming from all over
the world, World, Somalia and these different places that are
coming and they're trying to take over, and they're trying
to get the handouts. What we see in Minneapolis and
what we're seeing in New York with Mom Damie is

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really dangerous and that's just not a culture that you
can import and maintain our free society. So the immigration
is a problem that one it has to be solved
from a budgetary issue. It has to be solved from
a cultural issue. And really, unless we get ourselvesselves around
that and start changing. Look, you know, changing what the

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way we're doing that that beyond what Trump's doing that's
so good and continuing it we're that's that's absolutely paramount
to us fixing this country.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Well, Ryan, you know, the initial charge we'll here, of
course is the idiotic racist comment.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
And you know we're also talking about white people.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
You know, I don't want all these Ukrainians in my
neighborhood either, you know they're white Christians.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
But you'll hear the racist comment then you'll see here's enophobic.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
But the reality is this, if I were to take
a million islands and dump them in Tunisia, in tunis
people would be.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
A little upset.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
And what are all these Catholics and Protestants doing here
building their churches in our Muslim society. You know, there
is a reasonable amount of immigration, there's a reasonable absorbed
to capacity. But we see place like Springfield, Ohio, just
flooded with twenty thousand Haitians in a city that was
sixty thousand now it's eighty thousand. They're a strain on services.
It's unfair and how many Springfielders asked for them to

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come there.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Now.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
I'm not sure what's going on in Iowa, but I'll
tell you the last time I was in i was
ninety seven percent Anglo Saxon. It's as about a whitebread
as you can get. But I see that they're also
immigrants coming in. And I'm not against immigrants, but if
this has to be a thing that can be managed.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
But we look at things and the left wants to
make this a racial issue, and it's not okay. You
have to have a functional society. You have to have
people incorporating together. Okay, we're seeing all kinds of problems
in Europe because they're letting just mass migration go there.
When people come here and want to be free, want

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to be Americans, learn our language, and become productive members
of socite, that's an entirely different I think.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
That was a lot of old, old immigration. We don't
have that right now.

Speaker 7 (40:50):
Right now, we're getting an influx of people that are
being dumped out of jails and other things, and they're
giving them passes, passes to go here. That has been
stopped under the Trump administration. But this but We've still
had that issue on all of these things where you
have liberal attorneys that are coaching people that everybody is
a refugee.

Speaker 9 (41:09):
Right.

Speaker 7 (41:10):
We had a guy arrested in Council Bluffs in this district. Right,
he was a murderer in h He was a murderer
in Guatemala and a member of the cartel, and he
came here and he'd been hiding out there having been
the most wanted, and he was under refugee status. And
that's the type of stuff that has to be stopped,

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and we have to do a lot better job of
making sure we know who is and who isn't coming
into our country, especially in this dangerous age.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
One hundred percent of the Hey Todd, it's Ironica Ran
mentions that that this guy was a Redshu's a refugee
in the country when all they left is screaming bloody
murder over the South Africans coming over here say they're
not vetted.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
They're actually getting the most intense vetting you can imagine.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Trust me, I know because people right back to me
for South Africa, like I didn't know they knew this
about me.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
I told you, I told you.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
The only people vetted more deeply than refugees coming to
America are military personnel security clearances.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Ryan, I told you I can steal all the auction
in the room.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
I'm going to turn over to Todd here as we
get late in the hour, and I'm sure he's got
some questions built up.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
If not, he'll punt to John. But it's just it's
right there we go.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
Yeah, he took up a lot, a lot of the oxygen.
They have no problem there. I'm a little under the weather,
so it's just helped me out. But Ryan, to say
you're to the weather, I'll just take the mic back
to say you have my endorsement in the show's endorsement.
I mean it goes without saying for sure. But folks
were talking to Ryan Rhoades. He's a member or a
candidate for Congress Iowa's fourth district. Go to Rhodes for
Iowa r H O.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
D E.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
S for Iowa dot com. Check out his website there
you can donate to his page, volunteer for the campaign,
et cetera. But Ryan, really want to ask you what's
the pathway forward from right now to June. What's victory
look for you? I mean, how are you going to
win this thing?

Speaker 7 (42:51):
Well, one, it's it's what I've been doing, getting her
out and talking in all thirty six counties in the district,
talking to people, getting activists involved, and spreading that message
because we they're looking for a fighter. They're excited to
have somebody actually stand up and fight for them for them.
And I see that, and I also see that there's

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folks who, like I said, they want someone who's going
to be both a fighter and someone who's going to
protect agriculture and rural America and actually bring a voice
to that. And I actually think that fighting on the
other issues helps you, helps you be able to support
rural Iowa as well because you have a larger voice
instead of just being in a corner corner, silence, silent.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
The other thing is fundraising.

Speaker 7 (43:34):
You know, we've got we've got a big stretch of
fundraisers and and things, especially Nick, especially as it gets
into the start of the year next year, going into Christmas.

Speaker 6 (43:44):
Everybody's uh, everybody's getting I think they're ready.

Speaker 7 (43:48):
To have a little downtime from some of this, uh
this as well, but got a lot of endorsements. We're
going to be rolling out out and I'm very excited
about that. We have some big ones coming very very soon.
And and so it's really just it's the nuts and
bolts of the campaign and getting out and doing the
job of being vetted by every single eye.

Speaker 6 (44:09):
Ow and I can get in front of in the district.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
There you go. And of course you talked about endorsements
and of course big ones. I don't know if you're
alluding to somebody or not, but we'll just leave it
at that, hopefully hopefully, So some big endorsements. I don't
know if if that's the one you're talking about, Well,
we'll see.

Speaker 6 (44:24):
I would love that. I would love that.

Speaker 5 (44:25):
But so but yeah, some good endorsements. So you're the
right candidate for the for the job for sure. What
are some things that you think you're going to face
here in this campaign? Some adversity from some of the
other candidates that are running. What are some issues that
we may try to throw at you to have a stick.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
You know, I think I think a lot of it
is gonna be h. You know, there's there's different money
and money factors and other things. It's I don't know
that we're gonna you know, if it gets nasty I'll
deal with it, deal with that as it comes. I
don't know that we're necessarily going to get get nasty.
I think there's no find I think there's defining lines

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on individuals without having to attack. I think immigration, for
for myself, I think immigration is one of those things
that is a dividing line between where we're going to
be on some of those issues, or maybe how hard
line would be. I'd be more of a Stephen Miller,
some others might be a lot a lot softer, closer
to Lindsey Graham. But so I think there's those defining lines.

(45:25):
But more or less, it's also just really doing the
job to get out in front of the voters and
talk to them and prove to them that I am
going to be able to carry their voice better to Washington,
d C.

Speaker 6 (45:38):
So are there is it? Politics? Attacks come? I'm sure.
I'm sure there'll be something.

Speaker 7 (45:43):
But right now, you know, we're able to get up there,
shake each other's hands and let people know there's a
you know, there's there's gonna be a difference.

Speaker 8 (45:54):
You know.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
There you go. Yeah, and obviously you have connections in Washington,
d C. You know, obviously throughout Iowa, in the whole country,
and of course that's going to help you in a
lot of ways. And talking about your your opponents, if
you will the connection, they probably don't have the same
connections as you. How's that going to play into your hands?
And how's that going to benefit the residents and voters
of your district?

Speaker 6 (46:15):
Well, I think it'll benefit offene It.

Speaker 7 (46:17):
The voter is a lot because there's a lot of
staff out there that I you know, there's a lot
of staff that control things that people don't realize and
honestly probably control more than they should, yes, Waite frankly,
but I know a lot of those staffers. I know
a lot of those types of people that I can
work with because I know which ones are good and

(46:37):
which ones are fighting to stop the agenda.

Speaker 6 (46:40):
You see a lot of that behind the scenes. So
I walk in with a lot of that knowledge.

Speaker 7 (46:44):
I think where I can go. I know that person's
got bad intentions, tensions, I know that person's on my team.
And you know where we saw a lot of that
COVID because you saw who the fighters were out there
when you were out there during that time and everything,
you saw who the fighters were and who the role
over people were, and that is a defining, defining aspect
on this right.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
Absolutely. You mentioned truck driving a minute ago. I'm gonna
turn over to John Grodner, who was a professional truck
driver by the way, so he may have a couple
of truck driving questions for you.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Hey, Ryan, No, actually, I was going to ask you
about our national deficit. I mean, we're running thirty eight
trillion dollars right now, and that's a path of destruction
for any good country, isn't it. So what if people
via were good enough to vote you into office? What
do you make of that? How do you how do
you do you think it's manageable? Do you think we
can actually manage this debt and start to get buy

(47:36):
out of it? Or what are we gonna do about that?

Speaker 4 (47:40):
You know, I think we can.

Speaker 7 (47:41):
I see some glimmers of how the fact that the
Republicans were willing to not just give two trillion dollars
that the government was shut down. Nobody wants the government
shut down just to shut it down, but the fact
that they held the line on nearly two trillion dollars
of funding that would have taken it from thirty eight
to forty right there, right like overnight.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (48:02):
The fact that they were willing to do that and
hold the line, I think shows glimmers of hope. The
fact that the people need to once again keep telling,
you know, getting out there and saying, hey, this doge stuff.
Remember this, start cutting cut, cut cut, And I think
there's a lot of that that we can start heading
in the right direction. The other thing is is we
have to start a movement that's not and start talking

(48:25):
about this. It's not even just that the uh, you know,
the budget's got to go over every year, why don't
we freeze the budget? Like like, if we just froze
the budget and let ourselves grow out of it, you
would start, you would start changing the deficit discussion. The
idea that there's automatic there's automatic raises, that we're automaticallymatically

(48:48):
owing these extra things. Okay, okay, along that thing, I
think that I think that's really a problem because when
you're giving the fat cat, you know, the folks in
the government all of those automatic growth okay, But then
the people people aren't seeing that in their pocketbook as well.
All they're seeing is the inflation hit them them. Then

(49:09):
I think that's that's one way it was talked about
a lot before years ago, like lean six sigma and
incorporating that to the government. There's just no way you
can tell me that the federal government is, let is
ninety percent even efficient. So where can those ten or
fifteen or twenty percent efficiencies come to reduce these things?

(49:31):
Maybe it's getting all non citizens off of the government dole.
Maybe it's getting you know, taking the federal government the
Department of Defense and going okay, well that needs to
get leaned up a little bit. We need to be
a little bit smarter there. I don't think that there
is any area that should be a sacred cow that
where we can't start making efficiencies before we just start

(49:54):
automatically cut And if we just do that, we're going
to start in the right direction and then and you know,
hopefully start running heavily in the right direction as we
grow the country.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Absolutely, So, uh, cutting spending is imperative, definitely, And I
think the second stage of that would probably be economic growth.
And so how do you feel about the Federal Reserve
and do you think they affect our ability to grow
economically or are they hindering us?

Speaker 7 (50:24):
Well, look, I think I think we're seeing this constantly,
you know, the like we they're talking about Trump and
now all of a sudden, the left decides the economy's bad,
but it's better, it's better than the day he took office. Okay,
he's working in the right direction on some of these things.
But when the Federal Reserve is out there and Powell
is strangleholding these things, okay, you know Trump, he's trying

(50:47):
to put Trump in a box really so that he
can essentially manipulate the what's going on and how things
are things are going in our in our economy, And
so I think, I think we have to look at
that and we have to stop this ability for them
to have so much control and decide what they're going
to manipulate because they are manipulating elections.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
I think you're right on that digital currency. Do you
think digital currency is going to be a path out
of this? Do you already think it's going to benefit us?
Or do you think it's just more of a novelty.

Speaker 7 (51:18):
Well, I don't want I don't want the US taking
over over our digital currency currency, not like I don't want,
I mean, I want us to be a champion of
that crypto, the crypto and the digital asset type of stuff.
But I don't want it all of a sudden to
get constricted by the federal government and all of a
sudden completely just make another area for monstrosity, for manipulation

(51:40):
and everything else. But yeah, I do believe that that
new era can come through through. Is it going to
automatically overnight grow ourselves out. No, But I think if
we can get the budget under control and then use
that together, they can help grow ourselves out.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
Of it in the long term.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah, We're using a lot of technologies to grow economically.
Do you do you think this economic boom is going
to be a trend for the future that's going to
bring up our economic standing?

Speaker 6 (52:09):
Yeah, I mean I think, yeah, I think it can be.

Speaker 7 (52:11):
I think as long as Trump is in there, and
as long as we have maybe JD vanced on the
next time and things like that, I think it will.
But I think it can become a real problem if
this stuff falls in, if we don't get some controls
on this and some guardrails, and it falls back into
the hands of somebody like I mean, Kamala might have

(52:32):
might have almost been the least of our worries. As
we look at what's coming up with Mom, Dami, AOC
and these other people. I think letting that stuff fall
in control of their hands could be very very detrimental
and they would probably, you know, work to turn it
against us. So we need to put guardrails in their
wall growing in an exciting fashion.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
That's probably the boldest statement rate there. People need to
be careful who they elect. They need to elect the
right people. We got a few second, it's left here.
Would you like to give your website address and stuff
so people know where to find you.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (53:04):
It's Roads for Iowa dot com r h O D
E S four I f O R Iowa dot com
and it's Roads for Iowa on Facebook as well.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Awesome, Ryan, No, thank you, Chris, you got the lead, bud.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
So Ryan, thanks a lot for coming. I really appreciate
you being here. It's fantastic here your views, and thanks
a lot for what you did with the Tea Party.
It was a movement that was crushed by the powers
that be, and but we see the roots of it
in the mago moving out there.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
All right, folks, we'll be back next hour.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
There's Ryan Rhodes running for a fourth Congressions, res Cerco
the great State of Iowa.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
We'll see you in the next hour afternoons. Thanks a lot,
Ryan Cheers.

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Speaker 2 (55:18):
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Speaker 4 (55:19):
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Speaker 2 (55:20):
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Speaker 4 (55:22):
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Speaker 3 (55:29):
So, guys, Epstein, we're still talking about Epstein. You know,
four years we didn't talk about Epstein. Nobody wanted to
know about Epstein. Democrats didn't want hear anything. But then
when Trump got in office, they want this big distraction Epstein.
So now Trump Trump came out and just kind of
shocked them all.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Hey, vote for it, release it.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Four hundred and twenty seven people in the House for
one opposed and unanimous in the Senate.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
I can't recall the last time anything was yours to
send it?

Speaker 2 (55:55):
So which one opposed?

Speaker 8 (55:58):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (55:58):
There was a uh I noticed the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
The most the most guilty yall person party.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Huh No, I think he imposed on principle.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
Yeah there was, Yeah, there was some reason why I
can't remember, but yeah, principal standing.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
He had friends been to the island.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
Yeah, this guy would not have been. He was a
former sheriff down there.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
Yeah, it's it's not a question to him being involved.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
I mean, first off, I mean, how silly would you
look if you were involved and you voted against it
when twenty seven people voted for it. So it's got
nothing to do with that now, it's uh, Well, also
had this situation where Hackeen Jefferies is in trouble. Now
twenty three Democrats defected. He told them to not vote
to censure this this representative who just kind of like
what happened here Pennsylvania in my race where they tried

(56:40):
to gery rate this situation. In this case, a representative
who's leaving office filed to run again, knowing he wasn't
going to run for office as Democrat. Wait until his
chief of staff went and like literally the last minute,
filed the paperwork, had it ready, and then as soon
as that person was on the ballot for the primary,
withdrew from the race, so that there's no primary competition
it's just hand and jerty.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
It's what both parties do.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
And so I remember the Democratic, for give her credit,
Democratic member of the House stood up and said this
is wrong, and maybe she's grand standing.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
I don't know. It was an easy victory, but it
is wrong though, I mean, but it is. But you knows,
you know, this could be politics. Someone's like, you know,
here's a chance for me to shine and give attention.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
But whatever case is, the Republicans are twenty three Democrats
voted to you know, censure this guy, and he deserved it,
but I mean it does it's snow skin off his nose.
He's going to get a big retirement check and free
medical care at our expense, and his little slimy chief
of staff now will get to run in a competitive district.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
So hopefully voters will see this and vote against this
clown and vote for the repet right.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
That's that's the hope there. And of course any Republican
does it, and it's happened before. I mean Republicans have
done it as well. I mean district representatives or chiefs
the staff run for these seats and the member waits
until like the last minute to announce anything and of
course by that point, you know, who can pick up
a petition to run in time to put together a
campaign that's worked anything.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Yeah, and that's I mean, that's the bottom line with
what's going on here. It's just it's really it's dirty
on her hand, it's anti democratic, and it's intentional.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
They do this because they can get away with it. Well,
you know, yeah, one thing going on here with Epstein.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
But I think the more interesting conversation now is somebody's
been off the reservation for a while and finally people
are noticing, including Trump, called her a trader. Marjorie Taylor
Green the bomb thrower herself. Now now, she admits, because
the leftist press are falling all over here, but I
was wrong and throwing those grenades into conclosed spaces before

(58:30):
pull the pin toss grenade to political grenade, she is now,
I was wrong.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
We should have.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Civil discourse, really after you've been you know, pulling out
a flamethrower for the last several years since she got
to Congress. But there's a little dispute in the MAGA
crowd and Trump says she's a trader.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Any thoughts on that one, Todd, Well, it's.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
Kind of funny that you know, she was all mega
and of course Trump was all about her, and until
the craziness that is Marjorie Taylor Green goes against Trump
and it's like, oh wait a minute, we need her
outside the camp. She can't be inside any more. I'm like,
I'm sorry, you opened it, open yourself up to this crazy.
I mean you you invited her in by endorsing her first.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
To start off with.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
John Thoughts, Marjorie Taylor Green was Trump's biggest advocate, biggest supporter,
and biggest defender fall even when before he run for
office again even announced, she was out there defending the man.
Uh yeah, I think Trump kind of needs to cool
it down a little bit sometimes, you know, uh, keep
the stuff behind the all closed doors. But that's not

(59:30):
Trump's style. We all know it. He If you go
against Trump, He's going to get you. It was the
santist and the election and once you remember he was
the sanctimonious and suddenly when he dropped yeah, suddenly, when
he dropped out of the race, it's like, oh me
and run our friends again. You know, it's not cool.
So I imagine you know, things are somewhere down here
between him and Marjorie Taylor Green. But uh, sometimes I

(59:51):
don't know why he does this. You know he does.
He does it with ram Paul. He's right now, he's
trying to derail Ram Paul. He's trying to derail Thomas
Massey for their up and coming lot. I don't know
Rampaul's up and coming, but I know mess he is.
So I don't know he does this stuff, but it's
just within his character, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
So. I warned the politician South African and I practically
begged them not to be confrontational with Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
The thing about Trump is that if you insult or
come after Trump, it's game over.

Speaker 6 (01:00:22):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
I mean you know, no, it's game on.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
He's yeah, he lays it on thick and heavy, I know, but.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
It's game over for you. He's not going to lose.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Yeah, So when you come after Trump like this, I mean, look,
he's won millions of dollars from CBS. Now he's going
to sue BBC for the fraud they committed. The list
goes on and on, and if you call Trump names,
you go after him on a personal level. He's not
going to take it well. And he's got the resources
to keep coming after you. So it's just not a
winning argument. I don't know what her beef was, but look,

(01:00:49):
I mean, we can all have issues. I have issue
with some stuff. At Presdent Trump came out and said
that we need H one BV as the holders because
Americans don't have skills. Excuse me, no, I think the
problem is Oracle and Microsoft and all these clowns and
Google are laying off American tech workers from six figure
jobs to hire Indians to replace them.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
At ninety thousand years.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
It's not that we don't have the skills, it's that
we're being moved out and we're being colonized by foreign
workers because it's convenient for these cheap employers who, by
the way, companies like Microsoft sixty five percent margins. What
are they doing outsourcing people from India when we have
people in America. We have the workers, we have the
skills in most of these fields. We don't need all
these H one b they're supposed to be. Here's a

(01:01:28):
good example why you actually need it. We have three
ice breakers. We just commissioned two. We only had one
for decades and the thing was about sixty years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
So now we have three.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
We're going to build eleven more ice breakers. Seven will
be built in America, four will be built in Finland.
But the finished shipyard is going to send their technical
workers to America to train the Americans and the specialized
skills it takes to build icebreakers because we haven't done
it in decades and so we've lost the skills. Now,
that's an example, But we don't need coders in California.

(01:01:57):
We have hundreds of thousands of coders. That country are
the most talented people on the planet. I mean, we
invented the Internet, we invented the gaming industry, we invented AI,
and we're eating the world's lunch when it comes to
AI right now. So Trump saying that really torued off
a lot of conservatives, right, and a lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Patriots, me being one of them. That's one thing. So
that's that. Then we've also got this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Situation now where he says, to Trump, the tariffs are necessary,
and then suddenly, because the media claim that prices have
gone up, he just eliminates the tariffs on a host
of agricultural products. Well, one of the reasons why we
paid so much for beef in this country is because
the green lunatics in their climate seltry have caused us
to lose herds of cattle in this country. The number
of cattle held in this country is at historic low

(01:02:38):
in the past century right now because of Bill Gates
and Ted and and Ted Turner and others buying up
millions of acres of land which used to be grazing
land out in the middle in the Midwest and in
the Mountain States and.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
No longer the case.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
And we've we've shut down the stockyards all over the country.
And as consequence, we're not producing enough beef, among other things, and.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
So we import it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
We should be important beef for the world's agriculturation. We
should be exporting beef. But because of the cal flatelence
and the grass cans, it's just ludicrous.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
So we don't need that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
We don't need those tariffs to take away you know,
I'm not a protectionist, but the terrorists are serving a purpose.
And it seems to be a mixed message for the president.
As soon as you get little bit of pressu, you're
gonna let it go. Also, a lot of Americans are frustrated,
not so much about the Epstein files, but about the
fact that there are no indictments against these criminals and
the Biden regime who censored us, who shut this country down,
who forced us, you know, to do things that weren't

(01:03:31):
allowed to do it with in folence constitution. So a
lot of conservatives are in the Mega movement are upset
with President Trump. But we're not throwing our toys out
of the pram, you know, We're not throwing our toys
at the crib, just like Marjorie Taylor Green is doing.
If you've got a dispute, it's unseemly take it behind
the scenes. To me and John, I get your point
about she's the bigges supporter, But now I think that's
not true.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
I think this faken is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
I think Tom McKinley is Donald Trump's biggest supporter.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
He's the biggest silent supporter.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
He doesn't, all right, yeah he does.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
He doesn't pull the pentegrenades and throw it into a
room Marjorie does. But but look, this is something she
should have done behind closed doors. It makes me breg
The question is she just looking for attention?

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Well, she's running next year, and she may she may
be putting that out there that hey, you know, my
my constituents want to see the Epstein's files out there.
And Trump did doing about face. Guys, come on, right,
he did do that. I don't know if he had
an agenda behind it, and this just worked itself out.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
I'm not going to buy the about face. That's what
the mainstream media telling you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Why have you watched that happen? Chris, I wasn't listening
to mainstream media.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Brother, four times this year they've released the Epstein documents.
How many more tranches the people do? Give what they want?
It's the're upset second time, third time, fourth time, four
times this year? Why why is this so important? And
we're going to find out it's not important, certainly not
for the Trump administration. And I don't really care about this.
I mean, four times is released it. Nothing's ever enough.
But no one screamed for four years when nothing was released.

(01:04:53):
This is this is why, I mean the New York Times.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
They were waiting for Trump to get into office for
it to be released. However, Biden did really at least
some some documents when he was in office there and
it got more redacted when Bondi went in. When she
released that's the same items, but she redacted more of it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
Yeah, well, the way that they were released it to
all those social media influencers that first first wave or whatever,
and then they stopped talking about it after that. I
think that done on a disservice for sure, because they
didn't reache anything.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
It really after people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
People want justice with this, and this is human trafficking
and stuff. This isn't something I want.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
Justice for our speech being you know, removed. I can't
fix the sufferings.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
I want justice for that too. I want justice for
that too. I want justice for a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
That's that's something to be upset about. That affected all
Americans and it changed the history of this nation. What
happened to these these these young adults and children that
happened supposedly in Epstein Island is a tragedy. But he's dead.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
They can only go after his estate and they can
punish the people that I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Don't think after a state people want perpetrators. There are
other people out there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
That there are statute of limitations to these crimes, and
most of the statutes have expired now, so I'm not
really sure what people are hoping to accomplished with this.
I want people charged with crimes who committed under the
statue of limitations.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
Before and inspire.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
We can't go after Hilly Clinton for a theft of
classified information from misuse of top secret Sense Department information
because they let the statute of limitations expire these crimes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
What what's your statute of limitations for human trafficking?

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Well, you have to give me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
You have to cite the statute. You have to cite
the statute. There are multiple different things that come.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
From them users. There's people that use it. There's a
crime there, and then there's people who are actually trafficking.
That's a crime. They kidnaping part of it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
If you do release and let's say they say John
Grosner was involved, and it's like, there's no If there's
statute of limitations involved here, they can't really come after you.
But now they tarnished you as a perpetrator. But you
can't have your day in court though.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
But it also puts the spotlight on this person because
people are creatures of habit and if they were doing it,
then they're probably still doing it. They and their gods
and they can get away with it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
I can understand. But if you have reasonable doubt, you
should investigate them, you know, rest them, try convict them,
which that that didn't happen here, which is kind of sad.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
In my book.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
I'm not over we're not overlooking your point, Chris, because
you've got a good point about other crimes that have
been committed against people in this country. Taking violating our
rights and taking away our free speech was heinous, and
I think Biden's head should roll for that. I don't
think there should be a statue of limited then probably is,
but there there shouldn't be for for crimes like that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
So the problem with this is and I lost viewers
on my channel. I really don't care when when they
they're obsessed with this sort of thing.

Speaker 10 (01:07:34):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
The problem with this is that lots of people went
to Epstein's Island, rich people, connected people, because they meet
went to meet other rich, connected people. They didn't go
to little girls. Some of them obviously apparently did, according
to what the testimony have. But the problem is that,
I mean, like just the mere name of you're mentioned
and mentioned, your name being in there doesn't mean you
did anything wrong or you're observed it right, right, I
seriously doubt that Stephen Hawkey was diddling little girls the

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guy was nowalized. He used the machine, he used the
voice machine. Stephen Hawking went to Epstein Island.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
It was a pleasure island. Not just for that pleasure.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
It was a just like you know these all these
different you know, elite clubs and such. It was a
way for the wealthy and connected to stay connected, to
seek privilege, to get deals.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
Between without having the public right right next to you.
Want to do photos, talk to you, you know, pitch
you ideas and all that. Yeah, I can understand that
hang out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
I mean, that's how that's how this all started, and
that's how Trump is wrapped up in it because rich
people moving circles, you know, And that's that's true us.
So then Trump found out this guy was a scumbag
and he cut him off two thousand and seven, eighteen
years ago, right, And so.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
I mean, look, it's it's this is not going to
go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
I mean, the Democrats who are going to be exposed
this will resign, They won't be prosecuted, and nothing won't
come of it. In the meantime, the statue limitations is
ticking ticking ticky for the people who violated our constitutional rights.
They cripple this republic. We're lucky we have a republic.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
We all almost didn't have it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
People, can you believe that that idiot Kamala Harris got
forty percent of the vote.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
It's insane, dangerous, Yeah, anyway, dangerous for sure, But don't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Think when they vote.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Well, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
But what what is up with Hillary and Bill Clinton?
Now they're gonna they're gonna throw their nose to Congress?
Are they gonna be contempt of Congress? What's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Yeah? Yeah, I find him contempt.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
He's already been contemt Congress, alread, committed perjury against Congress.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
You know, but let's let's go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
They refuse to show for their deposition, so I think
they're in contempt of Congress.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Hold him at contempt.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
He's not the president, right, that's true, But that's not
it's not gonna happen. That's not that's never gonna happen.
They'll never see the inside of a courtroom for sure,
not one day.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
No, not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
They'll never be held accountable for Whitewater, for Vince Foster,
for for you know, Monica Lewinsky, for all, for for
selling our stealth technology the Chinese communists who funded their campaign. Yeah,
no one he's upset about that. The Chinese Communist Party
funded Bill Kinton's ninety six reelection campaign. We have the receipts.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
It was proven he got re elected. People knew about.
Its insane.

Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
And I don't understand people in this country that can
overlook things like that, like, yeah, it doesn't matter he's
doing a good jewel, you know. Yeah, just because you
got the nice new f one fifty, you know, you
got a little bit of money in the pocket, doesn't
mean he's doing a good job.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
I think he had a benefit of a growing economy
and that really he did a standing president, and a
lot of people didn't realize it was the politically right
that was doing a lot of that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
Well, it was, It was. It was a combination thing.

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
It was, Yeah, basically twelve years of you know where Reagan,
Bush and a lot of other things that pushes communism fail.
You know, we weren't spending all that money on all
these different defense projects, so we could shift it into
different directions. I think was a part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
So there's three major events that contributed to the wave
that Bill Clinton caught. The first was the Federal Reserve
colluded with the Bush administration and then later with administration
to lower interest rates to a very low level to
free up capital so people could borrow. The second was
that in the late nineteen eighties early nineteen nineties, many

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large corporations in America were fat at the executive level.
They were accustomed to having lots of salesman. IBM had
like three hundred thousand salesmen. They all made like six
figures back then, and it was a big bill. And
Eastman Kodak had tons of people at.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
That level for them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
And what happened is that we had a white collar
recession starting around nineteen ninety when the price of oil
spike from nine dollars a barrel to forty three dollars
over night with Solimusain's invasion of Kuwait. Now the price
came back down within a few weeks, but the damage
was done. The world was teetering on a global recession.
That pushed the world in recession, and technically United States
went in recession in nineteen ninety ninety one for two

(01:11:43):
quarters of zero or negative growth, that is the definition
of recession.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
After two quarters we came out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
We had a knemic growth, very slow growth, but we
were no longer in a recession technically, And unfortunately, because
George Bush didn't run a real campaign and didn't pick
James Baker to be his campaign manager until three weeks
before the lexts, he was he was destined to lose
that election. So we've got the interest rates being artificially low.
We've got the corporations trimming the fat and becoming profitable,

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which gave the money to invest their business, expanded business, advertising,
new factories, YadA, YadA, YadA, and grow their growth and
make their offerings and mail were available for things in
the service industry. Those two things, and then the final
thing that no one ever thinks about and gives credit
for that pushed us, propelled our economy to create eighteen
million jobs in those Clinton years, was the birth of
the modern Internet. In nineteen ninety four had first graphic

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based browser. The dot com Boom came on the heels
of that, but Mark Anderson had a team the University
of Illinois Carbon released Mosaic, the first graphics based browser
using you know where you could just click instead of
typing in the text. That started the Internet revolution. In
nineteen ninety four, which fostered trillions of dollars and economic growth.

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All of that benefited Clinton, and people thought the economy
is good. It wasn't because of Clinton. It was because
the interests are low. The American corporations trimmed all the
fact that they were wasting on employees that they were
paying they didn't need to. And the third thing is
this explosive growth and that led to efficiencies economies of scale.
Look at Amazon now. You can buy virtually anything on Amazon.
If it isn't from Amazon, third party sellers join Amazon site.

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Amazon makes as much or more money not selling things,
but providing cloud services, storing websites like Parlor and other places,
and the list goes on and on and on and
on and on. Amazon now is one of world's largest
delivery service and now competes with UPS and FedEx because
the Amazon trucks are everywhere. These are consequences. So that's
just one example. And then you take all those other
companies like IFC, and you've got Oracle and Microsoft and

(01:13:38):
Google that didn't exist this whole thing. We have an
echo ecosphere and environment in the business world now that
was created as a consequence of the nineteen nineties and
Bill Clinton had zero to do with it. Al Gore
did not invent the Internet and nothing to do with it.
He profited from riding the wave of events that unfold
around him. Those three things, interest rates, trimming the businesses,

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and then the Internet revolution. That is why our economy grew.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Nothing to do with it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
But the other thing added to it, a smaller issue
is we reformed welfare with with Newt Gingridge pushing the
Republicans and they got Clinton to sign that. But I
mean that had an impact, but we still wind up
spending a god awful amount of money in deficit spending. Oh,
by the way, people say they balance a budget, We
never balanced the budget.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
That's a fiction. We never balanced the budget. The money
that they claimed balance the budget.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
They stole three hundred and sixty billion dollars from SOI
Security Trust Fund, which is no trust in there's no fund,
there's nothing any except IOU's digital ideas. They took three
hundred and sixty billion dollars and then they claimed that
the federal government had one hundred and sixty seven billion
dollars surplus in the year two thousand, the last year
that Clinton was in office.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
It's fiction.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
You don't take money out of your checking account and
spend it and then put some of your saviscount and say, see, look,
I saved money. You didn't save money. You didn't save money,
you spent the money it came in. If they had
left the three billion into the save the so security
kept that, they would have been a deaf. It's a
seal of one hundred plus billion dollars because they didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
Have the money.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
So that's why Clinton had the success and that's why
people look back at him fondly.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
But he's a reprobate.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
He's an evil, nasty s So I won't say it,
I'll justt'll stop it sl but you get my point.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
So that's why why by Clinton was so big and famous.
But instead a lot of the.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Roots of our discontent now and eventually the financial crisis
of two thousand and eight were created then were created
during the Clinton years. The things were put in place
in the government that created the situation that led to
the financial crisis in two thousand and eight two thousand
and nine, and because of that that begat what we
have now and we stuff a mess and the rest
of it is cowards in DC. So Hopefully if Ryan
gets there, he can be one of the strong voices

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the stand up for what's right, moral and just there
you have.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
It, John, Yeah, and we can't keep creating failing social
programs that we have to keep deficits spinning to keep solvent. Well,
it's not solvent, it's just deficitus spinning to keep them going.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Well. But the real problem is not that. That's I mean,
we've got to be honest about that. I mean, people
don't realize that eighty two percent of the budget isn't
even discretionary. Only eighteen percent of the federal budget is
under the purview of the president. He can decide where
money spent for the Coastguard, for the Defense Department, for
Federal Aviation Administration, for all those things.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
Eighteen percent, So eighteen cents of every dollar.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
So even if you cut the entire federal governments operating capability,
you'd still spend eighty two percent of the money on benefits.
And that's because Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid, and
that's just devastating they have Social Security should have been
carved out and put into a separate fund that never
touches the government's hand, never touched the governments hand. If
that had been done, so security would be sound today,

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it would be in the black, and the government would
not be anywhere near as large as it is, and
we would not have a thirty eight trillion dollar deficit.
But the politicians can't resist a fat pig that they
can pork and steal from.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
And that's what's been going on for decades.

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
That's the online here absolutely well. I was at a
dinner a couple months ago with the Congressman Van Hillary
of Tennessee. He had served three or four he termed
themed himself. Now he's running again. He's been asked to
run again. He's going to do it, try to do
a few more terms. But he was talking about most
people go there and their long term goal is to

(01:17:11):
serve twenty plus years and move up to the leadership,
you know, the chairmanships, all these powerful positions, because it's
about the money behind the scenes, it's about all these
different things and the incentives. It's not about really serving
other people. And that's how we've got to this point
is you know, people that are going there for the
wrong reasons, not to serve the individuals that ect them,

(01:17:31):
but to serve their own special interests.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
And that's, of course the three lines I use in
my campaign and I used to this day. It's about
self aggrandizement, self arrichment, and craven political power. The self
aggrandizement is, you know, I'm special, Look at me. Fox
wants to talk to me. I'll go talk to Fox.
I'll go talk to MSNBC and become famous. Everybody knows
my name, Alexandrie Cortez, Omar Jazz, Jazzy Crockett.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
You know, that's the self aggrandishment.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
The self richment, of course, is the insider trading the
people like Nancy Policy engaging and suddenly go from having
no money to have one hundred and seventy six million
dollar fortune.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
And then, of course the craven political power.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Is this nonsense that we'll just vote as our party
tells us to vote, regardless of whether it's good for
the nation or not.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
And he told me, like he said a lot of
those people, he said that you think about how much
money they make, they probably couldn't make that, you know,
outside of you know, government or special like family connections
and things like that. No, they would actually have to
work for a living. And most of these people can't
do that, and that's why they'll they'll sell everything to
include their own mother in a lot of cases, you know,

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for for a dollar or for whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
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Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
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Every Wednesday night we have a kojit lucid insightful conversations
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Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
In South African off for concil call it little Saturday
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so little Saturday. But instead of saying hope, they say
little Saturday. But anyway, so here we are a Little
Saturday Wednesday night. I like that.

Speaker 6 (01:20:06):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Yeah, that's pretty cool how they do that. So John,
I don't know if you're keeping track of Rosie o'donald.
I mean, that's first to my list every day I
check on her status.

Speaker 5 (01:20:13):
But primary right there.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
She is just such an amazing Uh, she's such a
brilliant mind.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Yeah, she moved to the land of her people or something.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Well she moved to Ireland, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Yeah, but awful awful lefty too there.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
So just more proof that Ireland is collapsing. Yeah, but
she's losing her mind over Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
She has got Look I heard you know, I've talked
about this before, and I think we've talked about before,
but apparently truck ranging syndrome is no joke, actually a
medical affliction that psychologists are talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
Trump derangement syndrome.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
We interviewed a lady, a psychologist. Remember that Carol Cay
was on the road then you were, No, I think
he was on the I think Chris was the one
doing most of the interviewing with her.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Was he okay, well, apparently I've got some derangement syndrome
because I don't remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Yeah, it was pretty good having her own.

Speaker 8 (01:21:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
We Yeah, it's it's a real affliction. I mean, it's
been talked about.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
I mean, these people are just psychotic, and she's one
of them. I mean, what a wackadoodle. Thank goodness, she's
in Ireland. She can't do any harm.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
She's like the Queen of Trump arrangement syndrome. Did she
was trumped arrangement syndrome before he became for president.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
I thought Kathy Griffin was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
No, no, no, Rosie O'donnald had the head start on everybody,
if you you remember, it was before he even was president.
She used to fight with.

Speaker 5 (01:21:36):
Yeah, the media going back for many years. Yeah, back whatever.
Trump was just primarily doing entertainment stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Yeah, yep. She hated him then, Yeah, because she had,
probably because he telles a better joke than she does.

Speaker 5 (01:21:48):
Oh yeah, and she thinks she's funny. She's not funny
at all. She's played a couple of supporting roles that
were okay, I'll give her that, but I don't I
don't get it. How she's old upwards to be where
she's at, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
The only the only movie I can even remember her
ever being in was some bizarre comedy with sado masochism.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
It was ridiculous, a league of their own.

Speaker 5 (01:22:10):
She played in that, of course, she was in ye
crying in baseball. She was just basically, you know, played
a little comedic relief ever so often. But She wasn't
a main character in this.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
You tried to say she's so bad. She was basically
an extra.

Speaker 5 (01:22:25):
No, no, no, I'm saying Geena Davis. And I think
there was another actress that was like the main atime
mac donnad wasn't that wasn't she? I think she was,
And of course Madonna wasn't even she. She played a
bit part role or whatever. But it was more of
an ensemble cast with a couple of people that were
like the leads.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
Of Tom Hanks I think was the coach or something
that he was the.

Speaker 5 (01:22:42):
Coach, Yeah, Jimmy Doyle. I think it was his name, right,
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
I've never watched the movie, but I mean, there's no
crying in baseball. I love that's one of the greatest
lads ever. You see you see that you can't handle
the truth from Colonel's.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
Yesp that's that's classic.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
And then, of course, of course the best one ever,
the best one ever, seeing how this is what a
forty four mag the most powerful handku in the world,
which clean off, clean off? Well do you feel and
I can't I plumb forgotten how many rounds I fired?

Speaker 5 (01:23:10):
You gotta ask yourself. I feel lucky too.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
I almost put that out of lives, like just so
I can watch the scene. I don't like the rest
of the movie because the villain is a weirdo and
it's kind of weird. Oh yeah, yeah, but I mean,
but I love that opening sequence when he's in the
cafe and I.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
Think he did fire five and it was on an
actual live round and then he uncocked it and then
whenever he cocked it back and pulled it would have
been on an empty chamber or right, yeah, chamber.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
Yeah, but that was Those are great lines of movies, man, Yeah,
that's that's that One's just awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
I'll never forget that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
And then anyway, so yeah, now we get back to
the the the social content of the program talking about
movies in Hollywood.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
But no, but I gotta go back to that real quick.
That was whenever you had like the big the big actor,
the you know, you didn't have to be a huge
rock type character body build or Conan or something. It
could be somebody just looks like Clint Eastwood tall and
just had the jaw line, you know, I mean, had
the presence that was your leading man.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
That we go you go back and watch nineteen sixties
Batman series. While we looked up to this, the.

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
Eighties became like the Arch Temple was the steroid muscle
bound guy, you know, right, But it's so funny. It's look,
you go to any you know, like say, uh, you know,
Steal Team six, Dealt the Force or whatever. Those are
the best of the best operators, says They're not like
these muscle bound huge guys because you can't really do

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much with muscles like that.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
Did you did?

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
You did have Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris back in
the seventies. They were like the rock but they were fit.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
But he was talking about the eighties and as we
kind of moved that way in the eighties and it's
just continued on.

Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
You know. I mean, look, look look at Reacher. The
Reacher looks like a tree trunk.

Speaker 5 (01:24:51):
Right, But real special operators are very very lean. They
got muscle, but they're very lean. They could run for
days and then they can beat the hell out of y'all.
I you know what I'm saying. But they don't have
to be this huge opposing thing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Yeah, they got core strength.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
I mean that that energy. You're gonna deplete your energy
pretty quick.

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
Being that big, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
I mean you look you look at Tom. Tom Cruise
played played Breacher in the movies, and it was the
right and he's a slight guy.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
I mean that that that's that's believable.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
And I enjoy the first season of Reacher, the the
the series it's on with the guy's like a tree
trunk and there's not much do move your arms because
your biceps, you know, and your your pex are here
and you can't swing. But it's just that's that's not
the real world. That's not how people are. That's the
that's the world of That's a w w F.

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
That's what that is, right. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
I mean I've had to run with some big guys
in the Army and it's like they get winded pretty
quick and you're like, dude, we still got miles to
go here walking and like these are these guys are mentioning,
you know, four hundred and some pounds, but like whenever
it's time to run, they it's they're done. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
I saw one guy in social media. He was he
was a big bodybuilder, but he was flexible and he
could jump and do the kicks and stuff on martial arts,
but he didn't do with any kind of speed. It's
like you said, he kind of it slows you down.
He was, he was good, but no speed involved at all.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
Yeah, no, it's uh.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
Anyway, we get away from the Hollywood stuff for a minute,
Eve though, that's all no, no, no, no, I just
because I mean, I run the risk of spending the
next twenty minutes talking about that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
So we get away from that because it's easy. It's
kind of fun to do that. We're not we're not.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
An entertainment program, although we do some entertainment here, but
in Hollywood's it's kind of interesting, isn't interesting anymore?

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
I do have to bring up one quote from the movies. Okay,
go ahead, diplomatic immunity. I have the voice for it
right now. Sorry, I have the voice.

Speaker 4 (01:26:41):
Yeah that was great, that was fantastic. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
Now, that of course is from leath Weapon too, which
is the first one I saw at leath Weapon two
is incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
I really that's good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
But since we haven't got away from that. I actually
actually watched a series and Binge watched it. That's really
creepy but not bad. Seventeen Acade word nominations.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
What does that mean? People got Nobel Peace Prizes to terrorists?
So what's what's the Academy Award? Fallout? Wow? Man, that's
a creepy series, but it's actually entertaining.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
Yeah, very entertaining. You know they've got another season coming out.
We'll be got renewed, right it did?

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
Did you watch it?

Speaker 5 (01:27:17):
I mean it's it's I've seen bits and piece. I've
got set and just watched it, but I have I
have seen some bits and pieces. I've seen some reviews,
so it does peak my.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Is this on Netflix? Futuristic movie Dystopian? Yeah, I've seen
the first season. You're right, it was really kind of
I love.

Speaker 5 (01:27:32):
The nuke strikeover l A. That's kind of cool. Have
you seen that?

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
I must have slept because I woke up.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
It was not I was watching Playdate on Netflix and
to drifted off. That's what the guy plays Reacher along
Kevin James.

Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
I'm binge watching the Netflix Diplomat. At the moment, I'm
like this, this is so stupid, but it's so entertaining though,
it's so entertaining.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
Well, so what's that one with what's her name? Veep?
I couldn't bring myself to watch that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:59):
Oh so that that was so funny because they's like
they're not they're not trying to make Democrats or Republicans
look bad or whatever. They everybody looks bad. And now
I love it. Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
I just I mean, after trying to stomach watching the
West Wing, I just really couldn't you know.

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
No, Yeah, this is certainly not it's it's they make
fun of themselves. It's like they make fun of the
Democrat Party and Republicans just the same. I think you
would actually like it. It's just comedy, pure comedy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Well. I liked her as Elaine on Seinfeld, you know,
especially her dance moves.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
Ye, let me get it started. I'll get it started.

Speaker 10 (01:28:37):
Yeah, no, Lane, Oh my goodness, that show about Nothing
was so funny. It's still today. He's still laugh at
the stuff. Today's I like, you know, I had to pee.

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
I have a condition. You're on mycetitis.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
My brother he has it.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
He's running aroun around there, probably peeing everywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
Oh my goodness, where's your pin? Why aren't you wearing
the pin?

Speaker 6 (01:29:03):
Who will not.

Speaker 5 (01:29:03):
Wear the ribbon?

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
I don't know how you guys can talk about Seinfield
not talking about the super n Those are the guys
that of course.

Speaker 5 (01:29:13):
The armoire like another episode.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
Yeah, yeah, the two gay guys.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Where's your ribbon? Where he's not wearing the ribbon? Then
they beat him up a typical leftist. Yeah yeah, they
we're all we're friendly, cuddly, we love every but it's
a big ten.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
He's not wearing the ribbon. Let's beat the crap at him.

Speaker 5 (01:29:29):
And it's like, oh, I am Kramer, I'm a multi millionaire.
I came and donated a million dollars. Sorry, I'm not
wearing the ribbon, and they beat the hell out of you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:29:38):
Thanks for the million dollars though, Cramer, but you didn't
wear the ribbon, so you're not as virtuous. You got
to signal the virtue virtuosity right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
Well, because it's all about show for them. Sure, it's
not the reality, not about substance, just about show.

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
Yeah, so yeah, you're right, John.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
We can't have to you have to mention the sup
Nazi U No soup for you, U crats were the
soup Nazis.

Speaker 4 (01:30:01):
No food steps for you, forty three days shutdown, no food.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Steps for you, piece more soups, no soup for you.
Move along anyway, all right, we did promise to get
away from that. So let's get back to politics, all right.
So I think people need to be cognizant of this
now as we head into Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
Aviation is back.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
Flight cancelations are over just in time for the holiday.
But beyond that, folks don't get too excited because January
thirtith is when the resolution runs out, and if we
don't have another continued resolution or a budget, which seems
unlikely by January thirtieth, we're gonna go through the shutdown
thing all over again. It's gonna come to Todd January
thirty thirty. First, we're gonna be in trouble.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:30:43):
Absolutely, And of course you got the holidays, and of
course is Congress is going to be working on this
over Christmas and all that. Probably not, you know, so
they need to tie it up before they gave out
a session coming into the new year or the holidays.

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
I think, So, John, what do you think do you
think they'll be able to read something by because they're
gonna be gone all of December, so they got Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
We did.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
We go through that one time during the Clinton administration.
It was Christmas season and they had a shutdown because
it was the holidays. And I don't know, guys, I
think it's so much nonsense from Congress. They were required
to have a budget every year by April fifteenth, ironically
the same date you required a file. But yeah, they're
supposed to have about a budget in place. It should

(01:31:25):
be a balanced budget, but Congress drops the ball. I mean,
this is what we're electing these days is people that
can't do their jobs. But for you, if you're not
following their laws, you know what I mean. They don't
follow their wrong. It's a law. It's a law they
passed and put on themselves many years ago that they
have to have a budget by April fifteenth, and they're
not doing it. They're doing these continuing resolutions time and

(01:31:46):
time again, and it's always pushing up till the eleventh
hour on them, and they're wholding. American people are hostage.
And I think we think it need to start thinking
about this next year because next year is an election
year and if this is how they're gonna do it,
maybe we need to start putting some fresh blood in there.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
Well, we always talk about fresh blot, but the power
and commancy is difficult to overcome.

Speaker 7 (01:32:07):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
But at some point in time, man, people starting need
to start thinking about making a point of issue, you know,
set the example at some point in time, make it
part of the campaign next year. People out there listening
right now, you need to get out there and start
knocking their doors and make them talk about this next
year when you go to those little town hall meetings
or when they're having their little discussions, you know, you
need to bring it up to them, you know, how
about the balance budget. At some point in time, you're

(01:32:29):
going to do your job or you're just going to
play games, because we the people, deserve better.

Speaker 4 (01:32:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:32:34):
And if somebody is looking to be re elected, look
who's running against them. Maybe that person who's not in power,
doesn't have the power of the incumbency. It's probably maybe
a better candidate. Yeah, give them a shot, Listen to
what they have to say, talk to them, ask them
some questions, and maybe maybe if I find a better candidate.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
I think part of our problem as a society is
we elect people and we put them into DC and
we just throw them to the wolves. And what I
mean by that is we make them allowed them to
be subject to their party. We allow them to be
subject to big money donors and lobbyists. We don't stay
on their heels. We don't stay with them, we don't
support them in DC. We just elect them to throw

(01:33:11):
them there and expect them to give us, give us
their best. And so we're not doing our due diligence.
We're not meeting them at them town halls, we're not
putting them on the spot in the public eye while
the cameras are rolling. And that's what we need to
start doing.

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
Yeah, no, hu percent, we'll disagree with that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
Do you guys see the Texas a federal judges overall
Texas bill that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
Made the Ten Commandments part of what goes in school.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
They've said it's unconstitutional because it violates the Establishment Clause
of the US Constitution.

Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
And if you guys saw that that's out there now.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
Federal Judge Orlando Garcia ruled the Texas As Senate Bill
ten is a violation Establishment Clause the Constitution, which prevents
the United States government from established or expressing favoritism towards
single religion. So you go, yeah, Dean Wilner the Plaine,
if the case is relief, she said, I believe there's
reult today is really my children are among the small
number Jewish children at their schools will no longer be

(01:34:07):
continually subjected to religious displays. The governor's still business interfering
with Parnosians about matters of faith.

Speaker 5 (01:34:14):
Yeah, man, I don't know if that ten commandments necessarily
is like promoting one specific religion necessarily, right. I mean,
he says no other God before me, But it doesn't
say I am Christian God. You know, it says I'm God.
I created everything.

Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
Basically.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
You know, this was a little sticky because establishment clause.
You know, there's no establishment clause. They're calling it that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:36):
But Congress will make no respecting establishment religion.

Speaker 5 (01:34:39):
And that's not making it law. That's not congressation, that Congress. Right,
that's a local school district allowing ten commandments.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
This is what activist judges do, though, I don't know, man. Yeah,
sometimes I think maybe we should just try not to
intermixed religion because we have diversity and religions in this country,
and I really honestly think maybe we should stop trying to.
I know people are trying to compensate because we're seeing it.
And I heard on Dane Laro's show as it was playing,

(01:35:09):
well when I was coming into the studio there was
a congressman out in Texas talking about the influx of
Muslim and no, the infiltration of Muslim was more to
the tune of what he was saying it. And I'm
inclined to agree with this. We're being infom We were
talking about some of this here with our guests earlier.
We're being infiltrated. People aren't coming here to assimilate with us.

(01:35:30):
They're coming here to infiltrate and sway our politics. And
we've seen a lot with Palestinians here in the last
couple of years.

Speaker 5 (01:35:36):
Absolutely, yes, coganization right right here in Kingsport where I live,
northeast Tennessee. You know, you go out to say Target
or somewhere like that, and you're seeing more and more
people who would never live in this area that are here,
not assimilating, you know, wearing the burk and all this stuff,
not at all associate with anybody else. They're over here

(01:35:58):
in their own little clique community whatever. And it's like,
it's it's dangerous in my opinion, simulating you're creating your
own little little community, and it could be it could
be dangerous. So could you think about that you oppress
people in your own countries, now you're coming here and
doing it in a microcosm.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
There's there's evidently there's there's people point fingers saying that
there are actually communities of people practicing Shari alone in
the United States. Sure, you can't have Sri alone and
you have a republic.

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
Well that's what's happening in the United Kingdom.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
There are no go zones in East London where the
police don't even go, and they the people implement Sharia
law on non Muslims.

Speaker 4 (01:36:33):
It's insane. I mean, this, this isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
This isn't people come to our countries to make it better.
These are people coming here to force us to adopt
to their to their caliphate.

Speaker 4 (01:36:43):
That's what they want, so they want.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
And then look, it's not it's not all Muslims, certainly
not the case, but it's enough people here, and people
get whipped up in a fervor. I mean, Deoborn, Michigan
is no longer a majority you know, traditional American place.
Uh So, I don't know if you guys saw this,
but I know you know that CNN flew me down
to Alabama back in July to interview me as part

(01:37:05):
of a documentary in advance of the G twenty in
South Africa. Well, I think I might have mentioned here,
but I definitely mentioned to my audience that I expected
I would not make it into the documentary. I would
be on the cutting room floor because when the journalist,
who's an irishman, Donie O'Sullivan, asked me questions, he ignored
what I had to say and kept trying to pin
me down on saying something bad about Trump, and like,

(01:37:27):
where does Trump get the authority? I said, all the
Immigration Nationality Act of nineteen eighty. Yeah, but these people
aren't reffues.

Speaker 4 (01:37:31):
Oh but they are.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
They fit the definition a genuine fear of persecution based
on race, religion, culture, or being part of a specific
political or social group. And then he didn't like that,
and he said, yeah, but it's you know, why does
Trump let farmers and offer connors come?

Speaker 4 (01:37:46):
I said, well, nobody batted in an.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
I went, three hundred thousand white Ukrainians came over here,
So what's the problem with a few thousand white South
Africans come here?

Speaker 4 (01:37:53):
What's the distinction? Yeah, but apartheid, Well, these people aren't
part of apartheid.

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
Apartheid for most of them was before they're even born,
and so I just wouldn't bite when you know, he
kept coming with the stuff and he's like yeah, and
I said, look, I mean it's it's he' said, but
only white people come there, and I said, no, they're not.
And and so what if it wasn't only white people,
what's the problem. It's aid, drop in the bucket. We
let one hundred thousand people come this country, people call
from all over whatever here and then what they did
is they took this documentary. I saw it, and he

(01:38:17):
tried to turn into the white replacement there and he
went to some you know, white's only community in Arkansas,
has nothing to do with South African and it's just
to hate Trump thing.

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
It's just it's it's insane what these people do.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
And you know, before the thing was aired, and I
found out because I contacted the producer and said, hey,
any update is it going to air? He said, yeah,
to be airing this coming weekend. He said, unfortunately, Dony
didn't include you in the documentary.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
He cuts you out. And I wrote back and I said, well,
I'd be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
I didn't expect him to put you there, because he
wanted me to say something, and I simply told the truth,
which doesn't fit in air. If he goes, yeah, it's unfortunate,
I said, not at all. I'm happy not to be
associated with because this is not going to go over.

Speaker 4 (01:38:52):
Very well, right And people are like, why did you
do it? You know what's seeing this?

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
I said, well, let me explain things to you. Free
flight to Alabama, free lodging. All I paid for was
my rental car. I got to interview South African refuees
on the ground in the state. It's people whom I've
helped to explain the situation, and they got over here,
so I got I got some broadcast materia. Have I
got a free trip down there. I'll still care some
VFW business. While I was down there, I had not

(01:39:18):
been to Birmingham, Alabama since I was a toddler.

Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
So you know, it was you know, on CNN's time.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
And also, here's the most important piece I know, the
truth about the documentary. CNN told me they wanted me
to be interviewed because they're doing any documentary about the
state of South Africa bat it's economy, about politics, what's
going on over there. Also, they wanted to touch on refugees.
But that's what it was about. The title is misinfomation,
white genocide, right, that's the title. And so so so

(01:39:46):
in this they interviewed, So I know how they lied
to get people into the documentary.

Speaker 5 (01:39:52):
Oh sure absolutely, And I.

Speaker 4 (01:39:53):
Also know and I and so this is sour grapes.
I got a free trip. Hey, hey, thank you. I
even thanks CNN my analysis. But I'll still call them out.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
But in this the Foreign Minister Ronald Lamola, at a
time when South Africa needs to be working with us
get rid of the thirty percent tariffs, sits here.

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
A Donio Sullivan ask him if he believes.

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
That Donald Trump is the white supremacist and he said, yeah,
I believe it's white supremacist.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
Essentially, that did not go over well.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
So now Trump, but he's asked a question a couple
of days later, yesterday in the White House when the
Crown Prince or Saudi Arabia is there, and someone asked
him a question about savais I'm not going to sell there,
you know, I'm not going to support a country's policies
are about exterminating people, well, exterminating Oh my goodness. Now
the South Africa government's orcin.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
Well, honestly, Chris, tell him the truth. Billy brought on
somebody from South Africa who just came over as a refugee,
somebody you met in Idaho and we taught. We spoke
with him last night and I asked him about I says,
aren't black people persecuted too? And he goes, well, no,
they get robbed two yeah, and you know the average
maybe five black people get robbed on their farms and

(01:40:58):
one white person. But the is they're not torturing the
black people they rob.

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
Well, they're not only not torturing, they're not murdering them.
They're not gang raping, they're not torturing their houses.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
They torturing men all that stuff. Yeah, but uh yeah,
in other words, I don't want to go into details,
but yeah, because they do some horrible, horrible things. If
you get into details of what they do to these people,
it's disgusting, it's evil. And so I asked him, I
said why, I mean, was this related to apartheid? And
he says, well, no, it's being a systemic, it's being

(01:41:28):
coming from the top. Leaders and stuff are encouraging this behavior.
This is the truth, guys, this is what's happening in
South Africa. It's leaders. It's like it's no different than
when are left over here is praising BLM who's riding
in the streets and calling them peaceful protest protesters.

Speaker 5 (01:41:44):
Mostly peaceful, right, yeah, I mean it's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
Worse because they're they're encouraging the death and and uh
and uh torture of people just because of their skin color.

Speaker 4 (01:41:54):
So these people lie in the White House and the
Oval Office.

Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
U we saw President Ramaposa lie to President Trump on
the issue of land exporporation.

Speaker 4 (01:42:02):
We're not exproporating land.

Speaker 3 (01:42:04):
Okay, well that's then why did you just pass an
unconstitutional act call the Exproporation without Compensation Law. Why do
you need that law if you're not going to expropriate land, Well,
we need to take land to public interest. You already
have expropriation guaranteed under the Constitution. But it says, just
like eminent domain in America, you must have fair and
equable compensation and you must have the approval of the

(01:42:24):
seller and the buyer. So here's what they say.

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
This is why they allie to President. You have to
take them at their own word. What they actually say so.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
In twenty eighteen, ron Post announced that they were going
to go after have a constitutional endment to change exproporation,
but that failed barely and Section twenty five did not
change in the constitution. So what they did in December
twenty twenty one, then the Justice miss now the Foreign Minister,
Ronald Lomola said change the constitution was just one instrument

(01:42:53):
we could have used.

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
The matter is now ended.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
We will now use our simple majority to pass laws
that will allow for expropriation without compensation. Yet they lied
at President said they have no interest in taking property
that compensation. But going back here in twenty twenty one,
the Justice Minister actually said that's what we'll do, and
by the way, that's in violation of their constitution. And
then in January twenty twenty two, Ramaposa said the AC
will implement its resolution on the exproporation land without compensation,

(01:43:17):
despite the refusal of other parties in Parliament. So they
passed a simple law which file its constitution and it
goes on and on and on. So in here the
Deputy President in twenty twenty four said that it may
well be that you have issues with the wording thereof
but the intention is to achieve exactly that that we
need to expropriate land without compensation and where applicable, and

(01:43:37):
he continued, we use the words in the Act that
we should exproporate land if it's in the public interest.
The issue of no compensation, I'll look at it, but
my sense is no compensation is that you don't pay.
That's exactly right, exactly right. So and then in August
of this year, Cira opos it praise Zimbabwe's illegal theft
of land and on constitutional theft of land in the

(01:43:57):
early two thousands, saying, you believe South Africa entire regions
should take a leaf from Zimbabwe's agricultural model which led
to mass starvation in Zimbabwe. These are who these people are.
They're thieves and they're doing it with the law, just
like the National Party did during apartheid. So you just
have to take these people at the work. When they
tell you they're going to do something, believe them because
they're going to do it. But when they come to

(01:44:18):
the Oval office and lie the President United States and
then the media pretends that they were ambushed. No, they asked,
they asked for the meeting, they requested Trump gave it
to them a short notice. They came to America and
then beat you forget this, shiah olmpos was forty three
minutes late. He made the president of the United States.
Wait forty three minutes. Oh my goodness, you knew it
wasn't gonna go well when that happened. And then he
gets in there and he lies to the president. They

(01:44:40):
show these crosses that were out there and put on
to mark and commemorate white farmers and their families who
were murdered in the South.

Speaker 5 (01:44:47):
He Trump have videos ready to go.

Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
He did. He misspoke.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
He said these are burial mounts. They're obviously not burial mounts.
I mean, look, what Trump says to what he does
aren't always the same thing. The executive order governing, this
isn't anywhere near the rhetoric, he says, but you know
so so he said mounds. But it's actually these, these
these markers, and anyway, it's just look, it's these people.
It's insane. They lie and they get away with it,

(01:45:10):
and the media lets him get away with it. So
the media, instead of focusing on the fact that ramopos
lot because Roma Posa turned Trump, when they show this cross.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
The videoes, mister president, do they tell you where this is?
I've never seen this.

Speaker 3 (01:45:22):
At the end of that, I mean I lived six
thousand miles away, and I watched the footage unfold on
the state broadcaster at the end of it when they
had a banner across the road saying begging the president
to take action to stop farm murders. He lies, he lied,
The president ied statu offs and Trump has had enough
of it. So yesterday he said, he said, I can't
support a country's policies are exterminating people.

Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
I'm like, WHOA, that's right, that's right. That is That
was huge.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
So and they've also been salting him all year. And
the thing that goes back to what I said earlier.
If you attack Trump personally, forget about it. You're not
going to get anywhere. You cannot recover from that. Look,
you don't have to like Trump, but show them some
respect and and you'll go along. You'll get what you want.
You know, you don't even have to stroke his ego.
You can, but you don't have to. But if you
just come out and attack Trump, it doesn't matter whether
you're right or not. He will grind you into dust.

(01:46:09):
He will pull verize you. And that's what's gonna happen
in South Africa because they're arrogance. I mean, this week
on CNN their four ministers said Trump is a white supremacist.
Earlier this year, they persona and ungrodded and kicked the
ambassador of South Africa out after he went a zoom
session and called America racist and that Donald Trump was
the leader of a global white supremacist movie. He was
kicked out of the country. So that's two senior leader
as a party. It's not going to go well for

(01:46:31):
South Africa folks.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
No, no, why is this not an issue within the
United Nations when they talk about human rights and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
Because the world's welcome because the victims are white and
the world is wistest against white man.

Speaker 5 (01:46:42):
There we say that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
But the point is they don't do their job right.
They don't hold people accountable as they're supposed to.

Speaker 4 (01:46:48):
But I don't know why people hate white people.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
We got short change man, we get skin cancer rates
astronomic and hire anybody else because we lack sufficient skipping mutation.
Because our ancestors got at Africa's it was too darn
hot and they went north and less and less on
you know, got lighter and lighter man. I mean it's
a rip off when we got cheat on scape imitation
lead us along quick picking on us man.

Speaker 5 (01:47:06):
Plus we had to live where was cold?

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
Jeez forget then exactly we had to adapt in over companies.
Other people stayed in the warm zones.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
They they're fine, that says the man from the South.

Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
Anyway, So that's what's going on. So that that's kind.

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
We're close to wrapping up here for this weekend, folks
on the common Sense can service. I hope that you
enjoyed the program tonight, I go around the horn. Any
last quick thoughts from Todd and John Todd, you got
anything for us but word to wrap up?

Speaker 4 (01:47:30):
No, that was great.

Speaker 5 (01:47:31):
Yeah, our guest last week guests for your contact info.
If I could pass that along, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:47:37):
Absolutely. My name is John Grovener. I live in Nashty, Hampshire.

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
My five five five seven seven two three nine four
flour All right, now you can pass it along, John,
you got anything to wrap it up? We're just about done.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Oh well, you know. Mickey Goodlanders says, encouraging along with
other Democrats, that members of the military should ignore Trump's
orders and last time I check, guys, uh make you GOODLANDA,
by the way, is district to represent a US House
representative here on New Hampshire, New Hampshire. Yeah, so she's
she's encouraging people to get themselves court martialed.

Speaker 4 (01:48:11):
And do you do you know it?

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Oh that's where she's said. Okay, I saw that this
person is a criminal. She needs to be dealt with.
She's inciting an insurrection, just like that idiot out there
in Portland.

Speaker 4 (01:48:24):
Yeah. Anyway, these people are dangerous. All right, that's gonna
do it. Folks, Thanks for tuning in.

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