The Common Sense Conservatives with Vince Saben

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters, every Wednesday
evening from seven to eight pm right here on WUSMN.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Fifteen ninety AM, WUSMN.

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It streaming live on WUSMN GOT Live making sense of
the inverted reality we are subject to you every day.
The common Sense Conservatives are here to help bring you
back to reality.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Now. Your host, Chris Wyatt, Todd McKinley, and John.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Golovin Conservatives or WSMN. So we are short one man, Chris.
I think mister McKinley may be a walt this evening.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
All well, that happens from time to time. You know,
we've all got other responsibilities. Can't always be here. I'm
not sure what Toidd's up to there, but I have
a litt troll. Pick up your microphone there. I don't
know if there was a gain issue. Maybe it's just
a mine.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I was senting that too, and I'm wondering if let
me I.

Speaker 6 (00:58):
Got you now, But I did crank up my I
am a little.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Bit here, okay, okay, because I was thinking the same
thing for a second there.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, I don't know. Todd may pop in here.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
We do have a guest waiting to come in, but
or he was, Yeah, he's still here, so yeah, before second.

Speaker 6 (01:14):
Give him in a second.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
But let's let's run through a couple of highlights here
very quickly before we do. Yeah, as we usually do
when we start the program every time, we do have
a guest to just get people up to date.

Speaker 6 (01:22):
There, you heard the news the top of the hour.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
But of course, the big story at the moment, there's
two major stories for the US. One is the tariffs
at President Trump has sent the letters out the past
three days. And the other, of course, is the horrific
situation that unfolded in Texas on the fourth of July.

Speaker 6 (01:36):
What a tragic situation. We'll talk later.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
In the program about how the demonic left tried to
blame President Trump for this, for non existent budget cuts
to National Ocean ocean Oceanographic Administration as well as the
National Weather Service, things that haven't taken place yet they're
blaming him for that. And we're finding out, of course
that there was decisions made at the local level that
had an impact, and it is of course an act

(02:01):
of God that is unprecedented but the blame game started
right away. Now they've shift away from that. We'll talk
about those two things in the next hour after our guest.
We hopefully we'll get Todd mckinleyan here shortly, but our
guests we come up here in just a few minutes,
and we're going to really tonight focus in the second
hour a lot on this flood and the aftermath of it,

(02:22):
and also the tariffs, which you're having a major impact
on US trade potentially. But one of the interesting things
so far is that since the tariffs have been implied
since the beginning of this year, and then more specifically
tariffs in April, the reciprocal tariffs, the US economy has
not experienced inflation effect. Inflation is running lower now than
it has in decades. Under President Trump, inflation is currently

(02:42):
running at less than one percent per year, Yet the
Federal Reserve continues to hold our ingestrates at four point
five percent the prime lending rate, which is crippling growth
in the economy. Even so, the economy is still growing
and it's healthy at the moment. Despite what Jerome Powell
is doing. This guy is really causing lots of problems.
Were going to talk of that in a second hour
as well. So John, any luck getting hold of Todd.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Nope, I have not seen. Let me close this out, Nope,
he has not came in yet.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
All right, no worries. I like our background this week.
We got old Glory there.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well, we've had that for a few weeks now, you just.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
Know, picked up on that hasn't been show uping on
my end.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
That's kind of weird.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
No, I've I've been flying that one for a while.
So I have another one I loaded up in here
for those that can't see what we're talking about. We
got a background of a flag on our social media post,
and I've got this southern one that's not well.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
I may have missed it because we usually have three
people three. I like the other one better. We had
three people in the window. I may have noticed because
it was a little more less. That's a little too noisy.
The other one's better. Yeah, that's better. And and then
so we actually had four. We had the guest last week.
But tonight, let's talk a little bit at our guest.
Who's with Is it buck up Relief? Is that relief mission?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah? That should be it?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Buck Up the Leaf mission. Let me bring him on here,
mister Vince Saban, How you doing, sir?

Speaker 7 (04:05):
H good? How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
H oh? We're doing well, but you would sound like
you may have hopefully.

Speaker 7 (04:15):
All right, can you hear me? Now?

Speaker 3 (04:16):
You are you are the founder?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, you sound a little now, so you're the founder
and you operate?

Speaker 8 (04:25):
Go ahead, yeah, originating founder of Bucket Up Relief Mission.

Speaker 7 (04:33):
M uh.

Speaker 8 (04:35):
We worked at disaster relief from other Christian patriot groups
to bring disaster relief and search and rescue to disasters
in the country.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
And you've been doing this for a while now, Hold,
how long have you been after?

Speaker 8 (04:58):
I started with Hurricane Andrew in Florida back in the
what was that early nineties, and I've just been doing
it ever since. Where I've done tornado relief, hurricane relief.
We were in East Palestine when the train derailed, so

(05:23):
I've been doing it a little while. We started buck
Up Relief Mission with Hurricane Helene and have put a
fabulous group of people together.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
All right, Yeah, you've been doing it for a while
since Hurricane Andrew. That was a long time ago, man,
That was wow. I remember that I was down there
during Hurricane Andrew doing a disaster relief.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
That place looked like a war zone. It was nuts.

Speaker 8 (05:54):
You would have you would have swore an atomic bomb
went off down, Yeah, that was that was So have
a state.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
New Orleans right after did a lot of damage out
there too.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
So we find that we need folks like you, don't
we You kind of pick up the slack where the
federal government can't quite fill in the gaps.

Speaker 8 (06:19):
Yeah, I mean the federal government does well. Now, administrations
seemed to be doing what they should. But we're different
from other organizations because everything that we bring in goes
right back out to the people. We're all volunteers and
we all go by, you know, doing it without getting

(06:40):
getting paid to do it. Any funds that we collect
go back to support the search and rescue efforts, to
put fuel in trucks, to move the trucks and bring
in the supplies. So that's a big difference with us
where we're grassroot patriots. You know, we believe that this

(07:05):
country was founded on neighbors helping neighbors. It wasn't founded
on a government.

Speaker 7 (07:11):
If if your.

Speaker 8 (07:12):
Barn burned down or you needed a new barn built
or something like that, all the neighbors came together and
built the barn. Well, we go by that pretty much
as same thought. As you know, we can't the government
can only do so much, and so we all got
to stand together and put it together to make it
all work.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
We absolutely, you know, there's a lot to be said
for that.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Communities picking up the slack and stuff and building strengths
among one another. We saw that happen with Helene there
North Carolina, where Biden administration was awfully slow getting in there.
But I tak them two weeks I think, to get
in there, and with the local folks, they picked it
up the next day. They were like, hey, this storm's over.
Now we got to some clean up, find our family,
find our friends. And that's what really counted, don't you think.

Speaker 8 (08:00):
Yeah, we were in there within forty eight hours.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, it's pretty quick. So yeah, you were setting up
within forty eight hours having.

Speaker 7 (08:12):
The first two days.

Speaker 8 (08:15):
Yeah, I'm an over the road truck driver and they
gave me a load that I have to get there
by five in the morning, So oh, I'm sorry about that.
And if I can find a place to stop, I will.
But yeah, we were organizing right off bat to get

(08:37):
ready to go, and we developed Buck up relief. Probably,
So this time we were a little bit more prepared.
Uh the storm hit and the next by the next morning,

(08:58):
we were already working on getting every thing together. One
of the groups that we work with, Remnant, They already
had boots on the ground within hours of the flood.
So we try to react pretty quickly and be prepared
to do so.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
All right, So is that what you're doing now?

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Are you on your way for disaster relief or this
particular this particular run rate.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Now is just a load.

Speaker 8 (09:27):
Yeah, it's a roundabout way to get to North Carolina.

Speaker 7 (09:32):
You could say.

Speaker 8 (09:35):
I have a load that I'm picking up on Friday
morning in North Carolina that we'll be running out to
out to Texas. We're also working on a couple of
hotshot trucks that are picking up things in other states.
But with North Carolina, we ended up with a couple
of warehouses full of stuff that can be distributed. So

(09:57):
we're we're gonna draw from that for our first load.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
All right, So how much you've been doing this for
a long time?

Speaker 4 (10:05):
You said, I'm trying to get trying to get my
thoughts together here on you for you, Chris, if you've
got questions here.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Yeah, let me jump in there really quickly. Hey Vince,
it says, buck up.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Now, are you the guys who go into remote areas
on horseback to deliver relief?

Speaker 6 (10:17):
Is that one of the things you do.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
We have network of guys that do that.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
We had guys that we that had gone in and
we're running things up the mountains in North Carolina on
horseback and mule, and so I network with them. Our
primary side of it is bringing the supplies in, but
we will all network together as I don't know as

(10:49):
much as a team as we could be. But there
are separate organizations that are all grassroots and all volunteers
that do that.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
All right, So what you got to do is you're
moving the relief supplies and material that's needed from place
to place. You're doing the transport portion of critically we
needed things correct.

Speaker 8 (11:07):
Right, We're doing the transport, and we also support the search.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
And rescue teams that go in.

Speaker 8 (11:18):
You know, we try to make connections to get them
housing while they're there. Have been as cities that they
need to have, so that and at the same time
we work on the backside of making sure that the
area of death of the station gets covered. What we

(11:39):
found in North Carolina is everybody concentrated or the media,
mainstream media concentrated on Ashville, and there was so much
devastation outside of Ashville. So a lot of support went
into Ashville right off the bat and the high country

(12:00):
and the back country of North Carolina. The smaller towns
weren't getting it, so we try to we try to diversify.
I mean, we're working with people in Kerrville. We've been
told pretty much all of their distribution centers are full.
They there's been trucks going in there. Uh, Texans taking

(12:25):
care of Texans. So we're going to be working a
little bit on the outskirts of like Brady, Monroe, different
towns that weren't say on the mainstream media. You figure

(12:46):
they're in the Kerrville's there because of the the Mystic
camp and our hearts go out to the parents of
those children and to the relatives it. I think about
it and I want to cry. But there was also
a devastation that is further down the road, like Monroe,

(13:12):
that they have lost all their all their all their
roads and they're an unincorporated town so they don't have
public works, so they're gonna have to have help clearing
and getting their roads cleared and getting supplies into those
people who you know, the house got flooded. Uh, they

(13:35):
need clothes, they need cleaning, supplies, they need they need
everything because it when the flood comes in that house,
even if it comes in it fills up half the house,
you lose everything, you everything you.

Speaker 7 (13:52):
Have because.

Speaker 8 (13:55):
You know, it's it's really hard to see it. I've
i mean at first firsthand in many situations and I'm
about to go see it again because I'll be down
there on Monday, So you know, it's just it's so
devastating them out of loss in life and in you know,

(14:21):
everything people own and anything that they've had is as
they've grown with things that they've had their whole lives,
you know, and it's gone.

Speaker 7 (14:31):
Family arimbalms, folks.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Since common Sense Conservative. Our guest tonight is Vince Sabin,
who is the log distance truck driver involved with the
buck Up relief mission. He's talking about relief missions helping
people Americans in need to respond to disasters. Vince, you know,
the things you're talking about kind of begged the question
talking about moving critical supplies into these areas have been
hit by these disasters. Western North Carolina comes to mind,

(14:54):
and you know the horrific situation with already one hundred
and nineteen confirmed fatalities in the Hill Country. We have
Texas and about another one hundred seventy or ninety people
reportedly missing still and as the hours go by, the
hope of finding them alive seems pretty slim. But in
both situations, in West North Carolina we also have people
who are washed away from their homes right on the
river there and other creeks and wound up being in tuned.

(15:17):
This is pretty crazy stuff and it comes to this
question for events, do you guys also play a role
or do you have resources to help you know, in
those roads or bridges are washed out. I mean, you
talked about taking things to distribution centers, like you said,
Curveville's got what they need right now, so you're looking
at the places that aren't getting attention. But what happens
when you go into an area to bring relief supplies
and the roads are gone?

Speaker 6 (15:37):
Do you have drop off points?

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Do you result to aviation helicopters get things and how
do you do that? Because I'm sure that particularly like
in western North Carolina roads were gone, bridges were gone,
and then you're seeing the same thing here in the
Texas hill country right now with all the debris.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
Well, what we do is we set up a distribution
center that we can get a semitruck in two and
from that point, depending on the situation of people, some
people are able to come in and get what they need.
Other situations will load smaller trucks and move it out
and bring it out to them. We also have connections

(16:15):
with heavy haulers who do excavating and can come in
with their heavy equipment and repair or clear roads.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
We sent.

Speaker 8 (16:27):
We have a female firefighter who's also a chainsaw operator
who's arriving May tomorrow and she'll probably be putting that
chainsaw to work a lot. So you know, we through networking,
we're able to get people in and clear roads and

(16:47):
volunteers go in, you know, and the government does play
a part. I mean, they're gonna come in, They're gonna
come in with some equipment and do what they can.
Not so much as happened in North Carolina, but I
think with this administration you're going to see a lot
more help to areas that get devastated. But they can't

(17:09):
do it all on their own. It's it's a lot
of volunteers, Like I said, neighbors helping neighbors. I spoke
with a man yesterday who's renting an excavator in northern Texas,
and he's going to bring it down as soon as
they say they can come down and start.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
Right now.

Speaker 8 (17:27):
They're still in the search and rescue phase because they
really don't want to move a lot of debris. Any
debris you move, you have to be real, real careful
because one of the people that may be missing may
be in that pile of debris. You talk about people
getting washed away at their in their homes. North Carolina.

(17:50):
I went into Green Mountain and the locals there were
telling me about a husband and wife that were in
their house. They found the husband eighteen miles downstream, and
they never found the wife. She's probably buried under all
the sediment and mud and everything. They'll never find. There's

(18:11):
people in North Carolina they will never find.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Point that's a true horrific situation, and I suspect we're
going to probably see that in the Texas Hill Country.
Some of these people may never be found. Some of
these stories really heart breaking. Vince, I mean probably heard
about the two little girls, sisters eleven and thirteen years old.
Their father woke up at three thirty in the morning,
stepped off the bed at four inches of water, grabbed

(18:34):
his wife. He went to the door that was already
up to his knees. They went out the window. It
was up to her neck. They managined to get other
people out above higher ground, got a kayak, couldn't get
down to his daughters who were staying with the pit grandparents.
They found the daughters fifteen miles downstream and their hands
were clasped and they're both of course, had passed away.
Both these little girls in the midst of this hord.

(18:56):
Knowing what was happening to them, eleven thirteen years old,
sent text messages to both their parents and to their
grandfather who was up in Chicago, saying they loved and
loved them. In the fact, to the grandfather in Chicago
set a picture heartbreaking.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Extremely heartbreaking.

Speaker 8 (19:13):
It's it's you know, when water rises that fast and
moves that fast, it has a lot of force with
it that crusted it over twenty nine feet but raised
twenty six feet in forty five minutes.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
That's a lot of water.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
That is it is, that's a lot of water that
is now levels of water flooding.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
Correct now North Carolina.

Speaker 8 (19:43):
The water and mud came down the mountain and peaked
it roughly forty five feet and was moving at over
two hundred miles an hour. So they were people in
North Carolina then when that force hit it and hit
them Bill, but he just disintegrated. You're not gonna fight

(20:05):
in Texas. The water wasn't moving that but it's you're
going to find people a lot farther downstream than you
would think, and you know, it's it's it's high wrenching.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
You know.

Speaker 8 (20:21):
I've worked with a few guys that have right there
search and rescue, and there's things that they're seeing that
they they'll live with the rest of their lives.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Yeah, I can imagine if for the first responders. We
heard the Kerrville Police Department talk about one of their
officers who had a night shift and was moving out
and found himself in one of the spots because the
road crosses over the Guadalupe River several times, and so
he left the place and that place behind him wound up.
The water came over the road where he was headed.

(20:56):
He couldn't get any further. He saw people on the
top of houses, and all they could do was use
his his a loudspeaker on his on his vehicle to
encourage him and hanging there until the water went down
well enough to help rescue some of them. Some of
these truths, I mean, these stories of truly heroic actions
taking place. It seems Vince that in the worst of times,
often the best of people come out.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
Yeah, you're you know, times like this, everybody forgets their
political views, what you've what you view I guess racist.
You put it all aside and you remember that we're
we're all humans and we all bleed the same, and

(21:39):
we need to come together. It's the only way that
everything's going to happen.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
I mean, unite.

Speaker 8 (21:44):
Unity in this country, unfortunately happens at the worst times,
in devastation, in war, in things like nine to eleven,
things like that. That brings people together. And it's sad
that that's the only time it brings them together, and
the rest of the time we're fighting about politics and

(22:06):
disowning our friends and not being a neighbor. I mean
a lot of places you go right now, do you
know your neighbor's name. Do you know who lives in
the house next door.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Yeah, that has changed quite a bit since we were kids.
People don't have that connection in many places, Vince. You know,
a lot of attention has been focused on the tragedy,
how many people have died, and that's certainly something we
have to mourn the losses. But I think that if
we look at Camp Mystic in particular and realize that
seven hundred and fifty girls plus counselors were there, and
that at this point twenty seven are unaccounted for or

(22:41):
have been confirmed dead, it's absolutely amazing, given how fast
that water came, that most of those girls and counselors
got out, because if you look the map, much of
the camp was in the flood zone where that water
went up to up to twenty twenty twenty five thirty feet.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
I think that maybe at some point people need to
say a prayer thank God that so many of these
kids got out.

Speaker 8 (23:03):
Yes, you know, there is loss, but there was a
lot of There's a lot of survival stories in it,
and God blessed them for being able to get out
and do and help others as they got out.

Speaker 7 (23:21):
You know.

Speaker 8 (23:23):
A lot of sadness, but a lot of heroes, a
lot of people that that really they're heroes. They saved
each other and were with each other and got each
other out.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
Well, I agree with you, Vince, and I'd have to
say that there's also inspirational stories here.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
I mean, I'm inspired by.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
These two daughters, these two girls, sisters eleven to thirteen
years old, who obviously they were old enough to know
they were facing certain fate, and they had the wherewithal
not to cry or scream or shout or plead. They
sent messages of love to their parents and grandparents, then
held each other's hands.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
Yes, I mean, and you know how scared they were
and they knew what was coming.

Speaker 6 (24:11):
Yeah, I'm with you. You know it's uh, it's uh.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
As a combat vendor, and I've I've faced that sort
of thing, and one would hope that when our time
comes that we would have the same courage that these
kids had.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
Yes, yes, I agree, I agree.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Well, I don't want to get too emotional here with
this story events. I want to get back and focus
on what you guys do. So you're a five oh
one c organization, that's correct, a nonprofit organization.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
We're an eight O one.

Speaker 8 (24:42):
Yeah, we're we're connected with Banners for Banners for Freedom Ministry.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
And they're basically our mother group.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
And they're out of Texas and they're up in Northern Texas,
and so we're in eight o one. Everything goes to
like I said, everything we get goes to moving trucks
or things like that.

Speaker 7 (25:12):
One thing.

Speaker 8 (25:12):
A lot of people at this point right now are
thinking about, Okay, what supplies can I send? Can I
can I buy mops and this and that and donate it.
Keep in mind that we have to move the truck,
so we have fuel costs that are involved and other
costs in getting things from one place for another. So

(25:36):
we have a donation site so that can be done
so we can we can move the things that we
need to move.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
So Evince people can help out with sending funds to
help with that sort of thing logistical costs of doing it,
but are also in kind donations.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Is that something that you guys get as well?

Speaker 8 (25:53):
Yes, yep, Like I've got a two phone calls of
a six palettes of uh Anti bacterial cleaning wipes for
cleaning that was just called and that will go pick
up and move.

Speaker 7 (26:15):
And I'm another.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
Folks. Fence is on the road.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
Is connection isn't always solid, So hopefully he'll come back in.
While he's fading there, sounds like he's coming back. Sounds
like he's switching from tower to tower along highway. John
knows how that works.

Speaker 7 (26:36):
Oh yeah, trailer.

Speaker 8 (26:39):
I don't know how many palettes are tools hand tool people.

Speaker 7 (26:46):
So.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
This hapends too much on the road, John, Yeah, this
has happen to me many times.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Uh, but you got to handle the truck drivers, man.
I'll tell you what they pull through. They they live
a hard life, so I think they you know, they
say hard times develop good character, and a lot of
them come from hard lives.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
And trucking is not an easy life within itself, especially
over the road trucking.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
And then when they put the time and effort in
like this, you know he's working hard.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
As you can see he's on the road. He throws
up us on the screen.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
I suppose I should take him off the screen un
till he gets a signal back. But yeah, you know,
it's just it's fascinating to see how many truck drivers
will And then I know another truck driver who started
a similar organization here years back, and in fact I
gave him connection so that maybe they can work together.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Yeah, as soon as I see him come back, all.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
Yeah, no worries. No, it's one thing about truck drivers, definitely.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
Of course. You know, I've had a long association with
the industry because of my stepfather and my mother all
the way back to nineteen seventies. Although it's not something
I've hung around, but I've been known about it for
a long time. But I can say that they're persistent.
Truck drivers are persistent long haul truck drivers.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
You have to be man I'm talking to sometimes it's
like an act of survival out there.

Speaker 6 (27:56):
Oh it is.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
I'm sure, between the weather, the mission, you got to
get to one place to another and get that delivery
on time. And it's not exactly taking course to Georgia
for smoking the bandit.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
But it's something you have persist about. Folks.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
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coming to every Wednesday night with my co host John
in Nashville, New Hampshire, John Grovenor and then of course
Tod McKinley in East Tennessee. He's not with us tonight.
Our guest surnight is Vince Saban, long haul truck driver
who is right now on the road making delivery. He's

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also involved in this effort called buck Up Relief Mission,
and they help deliver necessary relief supplies in disaster areas.
Of course they're involved North Carolina's we were talking about
a short while ago. It sounds like he's back, and
then now he's also he's right, he's back. You know,
now that you're back there, Vince, much better signal. Looks
like too, got a better tower there. It must be

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closer to civilization thanywhere five minutes ago. But now that
you're back your Your organization is headquartered in Texas. So
this this hill country thing, although it's not right in
your backyard, it kind of hits home. It's close to home,
isn't it.

Speaker 8 (29:08):
Yeah, we're based out of Texas, uh, the organization, although
we're from all over the country. We have people that
our buck Up Relief in New York. I'm from Cape Cod, Massachusetts.
We have people from Connecticut down in Florida that make

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up buck Up Relief.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Where'd you leave your accent? Man I'm not you.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
Lost me again.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Yeah, yeah, No, I was gonna say, that does sound
like a Northeastern accent.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
I don't hear that Massachusetts accent.

Speaker 7 (29:50):
I gotta find a place to pull over.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, I think he's got kitching this real world there, Chris.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
Yeah, I'm with you, John, I do you kind of
have meviol That's it could have been a could have
been a you know, a hill country Texas accent.

Speaker 6 (30:02):
Wasn't that deep south?

Speaker 5 (30:03):
And it definitely doesn't sound like a Northeastern accent to me.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
No, No, I'm not kidding that well, but I'm not
questioning where he's from now.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
No, we're not a question either. But to be fair,
I'm from Balmer, but I'm sure that don't sound like
I'm from Maryland.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
That's for sure, because I got that Midwest accent.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
But that because that's because I lived all the country.
But yeah, so hopefully uh, Vince is pulling over fine,
trying to find a spot with a better signal there.
But we're talking to Vince Saban from a buck Up
relief mission. So John, this this whole thing, and so
I got a little emotional a few minutes ago talk
with those little girls.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
What what a, what a what?

Speaker 5 (30:36):
I'm sad but truly amazing story. Uh, those girls, Vince's back.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
I think I'm back.

Speaker 8 (30:42):
I'm going to stop up here real quick where I
don't lose you again.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
All right, Well, you won't be knocked too much off
your schedule because we've only got about twenty minutes left
in the hour, so that won't sell you down too much.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
Okay, all right, so as you good?

Speaker 7 (30:58):
No, you go ahead. You were asking me something and
I lost year again.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
I'm not sure if we're talking about there. You kind
of got into the direction I was going about how
the organization set up. You've got people from all the
country involved in this, so you don't you don't focus
on a specific geographic area. You go where the mission is.
I mean, if there's if there was a volcano exploded,
like Mount Saint Helens and you were need of the Northwest,
you probably have guys show up there.

Speaker 8 (31:22):
Yes, Yes, we, like I said, we're not like ah,
like the Red Cross or Samaritans Purse or anything like that.
We don't have a corporate office that we run out
of that we have to pay to run. We're a
network of Americans, you know, patriotic Christian, patriotic Americans that

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I just want to help each other when time comes,
wherever it may be.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
Well, that's the direction I want to go too.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
I noticed Vince that it sounds like this is a
faith based organization. You you quote Ephesians on your website,
You've talked about faith a few times here. I'm guessing
that Christian faith has played a role in the organization
and the delivery of this effort most definitely.

Speaker 8 (32:17):
I heard a man once say that I put my
right foot out and God tells me that we had
to put my left and in a lot of what
we've done and I've done, I feel that way that
I'm guided by that. I mean, maybe it's just the
way my eye was brought up and my heart goes

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out to people.

Speaker 7 (32:40):
But I do believe God has a lot to do with.

Speaker 8 (32:46):
What we do, because there's just been times when you know,
we don't have the money, we don't have the money.

Speaker 7 (32:54):
To move a truck, and all of a sudden.

Speaker 8 (33:01):
There was insolin needed in Carolina, and a couple of
friends of mine that are also part of buck Up,
they got in their truck and they would.

Speaker 7 (33:15):
They were bringing supply.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, we're fading out again.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
Well, they got a phone call coming through tennis See.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to remove them.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
See, I think I know where the story is going. Uh,
they got a phone call as they were going through Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
Somebody said we've got some insulin, and they probably diverted,
picked it up and carried it down there.

Speaker 6 (33:50):
I'm sure that's what happened. It sounds like that's the case.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Yeah, when it gets back, if we get him back up,
I want to talk to him about the biggest challenges
that they face, you know, because these are nonprofit organizations
and not well known. In fact, I'll be honest, I
was unfamiliar with buck Up Relief Mission until we scheduled
them as guests. So now, Vince, if you're back, you
can hear me. I wanted to ask, what's uh, you know,
it's organizations sometimes aren't that well known. I'll be honest,

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I was unfamiliar with Bucked Up Relief Mission before we
adally schedule to come on as guest.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
What's your biggest challenge?

Speaker 8 (34:20):
Is?

Speaker 6 (34:21):
Is it getting the funds you need?

Speaker 5 (34:22):
You were talking about that story about getting insulin, which
the time we call came through. Apparently when someone was
in Tennessee headed down there.

Speaker 8 (34:28):
Yeah, they were on their way out to North Carolina
and got a call and we were in desperate need
of insulin. And they got a phone call and they
went to they stopped to visit the people that they
got the call from, and just so happened she had
a whole bunch of insulin that she couldn't use and
they were able to take that to North Carolina.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
That's God in work.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
That's his hand and play.

Speaker 8 (34:55):
That is His hand at play. So yeah, we're really
face based, but that does not prevent us helping different people,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Absolutely, we you help, you have everybody. You're not You're
not just there to help Christians and need. You're there
to help everybody, you know, Vince. When these things unfold,
folks like yourself at first responders and those doing response
and disaster, they see these things up close and personal,
so you appreciate just what's going on here.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
A lot of times I'll use the term civilians.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
I mean not from a military civilian standpoint, even a military,
but I use term civilian. People not associated with the
relief effort or they don't really realize what's going on.
Here from a standpoint that when these events happen, everything
is gone. I mean you're talking about people need contact lenses,
people need glasses, people need underclothing, people who need diapers
for their babies, formula, insulin, medication, all these things in

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this case in North Carolina or in the Hill Country,
Texas have washed away.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
They're gone.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
It's not just shelter, it's not just water, it's not
just food. Those are immediate needs, but all these other
things off to have to be addressed. And then the
things that seem you know, less important but matter. You know,
personal hygiene items, toothpaste, toothbrushes, under arm everything you could
possibly think, think about something that's.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
In your house.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
People in need after a disaster need all of that, don't.

Speaker 8 (36:16):
They, Yes, they do, and we try to get it there.
We you know, any clothing, we we only accept new clothing.
We don't want someone wearing someone's old clothes. But from
toothbrushes to personal hygiene, baby diapers, water, all of it.

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Anything you can think of that's in your house. These
people have lost. So we come in and bring it
to them the best we can.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Well, Vince, and now you've got a good signal it
looks like you've pulled over. We've got you there, and
we'll try to hold that signal on the network for
a little bit. Maybe maybe a little Divide intervention will
help us with the signal at the stage.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
Well, I wanted to ask you a question, Vince, while
we were getting broken up there.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
What's the biggest challenge you guys faced, because I mean,
you know, people know about the Red Cross, they know
about many large organizations where they know to donate things to. Also,
you know, I didn't even mention plasma and blood. That's
something is needed for times like this. But but what's
the biggest challenge that you guys at buck Up Relief Mission?
Is it that you're not well known, or is it
getting something in particular or or just getting funds?

Speaker 6 (37:23):
What's the biggest challenge to deal with?

Speaker 8 (37:25):
The biggest funds issue I would say that we have
is getting funds to fuel the trucks, to put the
fuel in the trucks to move it. People can donate
everything and they and I've seen it, they donated thousands
of things, but don't keep in mind that. Okay, now
we've got to take it from where you donated it

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to where it's needed, and it costs a lot of
money to.

Speaker 7 (37:50):
Run these trucks. Fuel is not cheap.

Speaker 8 (37:54):
And if you know, you get a truck out there,
you blow, what blow one tire, it's going to cost
you three hundred bucks.

Speaker 7 (38:01):
That's on the low side. You know.

Speaker 8 (38:04):
Right now they're I think an average tire is running
four point fifty to six hundred dollars.

Speaker 7 (38:09):
So we've got to maintain the trucks.

Speaker 8 (38:12):
We've got to make sure that the driver can eat
and he's got fuel and if he breaks down, that
we're able to help him to keep moving.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (38:21):
You know, most of everybody we work with our own
our operators. They don't have a big company that's behind
them like Warner or Swift or or a Knight JB.
Hunt where they're taking care of the maintenance. You know,
if these guys out here own our operators that they
bowl a tire, it's out of their pocket or any breakdown.

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So you know, we raising the funds to keep the
trucks moving is the biggest thing. We have brokers that
I'm connected with that we will.

Speaker 7 (38:57):
Will broke ruddle load at whatever it costs.

Speaker 8 (39:01):
We figure out the miles, the cost per mile, and
most guys will give us a little bit of a
break on the cost per mile depending on how far
it is. So yeah, the biggest thing is is our
funds to keep everything rolling.

Speaker 6 (39:18):
Well, that's what I was wondering.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
You know, it's because I'm sure, well there's probably an
average cost you figure it's going to take, because you've
got to calculate, as you said, the maintenance in there.
It's not just a fuel because you have breakdowns, you
have tires blow and unlike unlike most of us on
four wheels, I think you have at least eighteen wheels
that you deal with there. So so yeah, eighteen chances
for things that go awry, not to mention all the

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mechanical things that can go wrong. I mean things break down,
Trucks wear down, and as you said, a lot of
owner operators, some have new trucks they can afford. Some
are driving much older trucks require more maintenance. But I mean,
I imagine that's that's got to be a real challenge. Do
you do you guys do something like in the army,
we have contact teams. You know, if guys that like
the maintenance, guys, is it go along with the convoys

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and when we're moving in the field of place to place,
and if there's a breakdown, they respond, they come up
on the radio, They get up there, they got the
tools they need.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
Sometimes they got spare parts and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
Do you have are you that developed? Is that something
you have the luxury of having or no.

Speaker 8 (40:15):
I have a couple of contacts that can we can
do that with depending on where they are in the country.
Most of the time they've got to roll into a
TA or the Loves and get the replayers done there.
But we do have contacts with some mechanics that we
can call if they're in the area.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
TA is Travel America and Loves are the two biggest
truck stops coast to coasts that are kind of existence
these days.

Speaker 8 (40:39):
Correct, Yeah, you can add Pilot and Fly and J
in there also.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
They're still around to you other, but I mean that's
two of the big ones. So that these are what
we're talking about truck stops, because I'm not sure not everybody,
particular your national audience is familiar with Travel America and
with the Loves or Pilot or Flying J for that matter.
I know Flying J because I'll tell you what, every
time we went across the country. I used to stop
the fly outside Indianapolis. Man gasoline was like eighty nine
cents a gallon at one point there I was picking up.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
I love that place back.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
In the early nineteen nineties.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
Maybe, yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 7 (41:11):
That was a long time ago, guys. Yeah, we've done
a long way yince.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Then you didn't give me a keeper conversation here yep.

Speaker 8 (41:18):
So yeah, that would that's that would be our biggest,
biggest thing. And if you can't donate funds, you know,
even five or ten dollars is a great help. It
all adds up. But if you can't do that and
you have our buck Up Relief Mission gives san go
uh website. I don't know if there's a way you

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can post that on here.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
It's the website's posted below our chat, so anybody watching
on it line can see it.

Speaker 7 (41:47):
Okay, share it out, share it out, share it out,
share it out.

Speaker 8 (41:50):
That is all I can ask. Donate if you can.
If you can't donate, you start something up local, uh,
work with your neighbors to put something together, and then
contact us and say, hey, we've put together enough to
have half fill a semi truck.

Speaker 7 (42:10):
You know there are things you can do and then
we'll we'll.

Speaker 8 (42:16):
Figure out a way to pick it up and get
it moved. But you know, that's all I can ask.

Speaker 7 (42:23):
Is that help us? Help them?

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Well?

Speaker 6 (42:30):
Vince, Uh.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
For those who are watching this online course, we're in
a radio terrestrial station at a NASH one. That's our
main audience. We have an online ondience. They can see
it on the screen. For those listening over the radio,
you can go to https for secure www dot give
sendg dot com and there's a forward slash buck up
that's you're looking for. Or if you just go to
the website and find that and that'll that'll show you

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how to get there. Their website is Banners for Freedom
dot com. Banners for Freedom dot com. Vince, let me
ask you this question.

Speaker 6 (42:58):
What fuels you?

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Is it your faith that that that that drove you
to do this, or something personal in your life that
maybe you just you just felt the need to help people.

Speaker 7 (43:08):
I don't know. I blame my mother.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Why what does it expecting that answer?

Speaker 8 (43:15):
I blame my mother and the way she brought me up.
It's it's been odd. I it's just a feeling I
have that that's what I'm supposed to be doing. Everybody
has a purpose on this planet, and some people never
know what their purpose is. Some people will get the

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feeling of what their purpose is to do and to
do it my purpose and I went in the Navy.
I backed this country one hundred percent. I love this
country and I love the people of this country. And
when someone needs help, it's what I do.

Speaker 7 (43:58):
It's just maybe is God telling me to do it?

Speaker 5 (44:05):
Well? That sounds like you found a purpose and one
that's noble. What has been Has there been a singular
experience that's been the most rewarding, Maybe someone you've helped
or someone who lost everything that's come back from from tragedy.
Is there is there a story you can tell us,
a brief story about something that's really just get your.

Speaker 7 (44:22):
Heart hold on. Let me mute this a second.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
It sounds like there's a dog there.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
I think he has a companion there.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 8 (44:33):
I found him at a truck stop three years ago
as a puppy and he's been with me ever since.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
Oh that's nice.

Speaker 8 (44:38):
So yeah, something that's really touched my heart. Last Christmas,
I got a call that they wanted to bring Christmas
to the kids in North Carolina, and I had the
privilege I'm having going and getting the semi truck loaded

(45:03):
with new bicycles and Christmas presents of all sorts, from
clothing to you name it, and delivering it to the
kids in western North Carolina. And these kids were amazing
because they've lost everything, and you know when they came

(45:27):
in and their eyes just lit up with everything that
we had. But at the same time, they'd go down
the line and they'd look at this toy and that toy,
and they'd pick one so that their neighbors would still
have their friends could still have something. It's not like
they just rushed and grabbed everything and filled it into

(45:49):
a bucket and were greedy little kids. And it really
touched my heart to see that the way the children
looked out for each other, and it was just an
amazing feeling, and I want to do it every year.
That really filled my heart to see how how these kids,

(46:11):
not the adults, but the kids looked out for each
other and made sure, hey, okay, this just Joe and.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Well yeah a good signal.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
Yeah, it's like the network cut us off just when
the good stuff.

Speaker 8 (46:29):
Got friends and when they were when that evening was done,
we loaded up what was left and we went to
another town and they did the same thing.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
Wow. So Vince, you know, it's pretty cool as a
veteran working with a VFP.

Speaker 6 (46:46):
We can hear it.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
Yes, you drifted for a moment, but you're back as
a veteran working with the VFW weekend again. We've got you.
We can hear you. Okay, let's get him back here.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Technology, guys, because it's it's actually, this is good stuff.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
It's great when it works.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
It's wonderful when it works. Yeah, we love it.

Speaker 6 (47:13):
It's just a network. Isshaw, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Nope, I'm not hearing Vince now.

Speaker 6 (47:17):
Okay, well we're coming up on the end of there.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
He is, there is gotten back.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Oh he was trying to speak, but we weren't picking
them up.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
These things happened to him commonly, when you got a
headset like that, you're trying to do restream or stream
Yard or any of these platforms, sometimes your headset won't
connect with it.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
It's it's chanting.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
This is why for my broadcasting, I long ago switched
from the Wi Fi to my land card and instead
of having wireless keyboards and wireless mice and wireless microphone.
Everything is wired up. That cuts down any chance. It
makes it a lot better. There is Vince is back.
Can you hear Vince?

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Nopeat yeah you could.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
You can't hear us. We can't hear you. You know,
we cannot hear you. Okay, So probably his best bets
to is to hang up and dial back in.

Speaker 6 (48:10):
But we're short at the time here.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
We got about I think about eight minutes before we
go to the top of the hour.

Speaker 7 (48:14):
So he oh, there we go.

Speaker 6 (48:16):
He's back.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
He's back.

Speaker 6 (48:17):
Okay, it does I can hear me out? Can you
hear me out?

Speaker 5 (48:21):
So if it's what I wanted to say is as
you told, if you finished telling that story, we did
catch you in this story, which is great. But I
what I want to say is that what was really
cool is that you know, as a veteran working with
the vfw UH, we do a breakfast with Santa every
year and gifts are given out to kids and it's
just truly amazing.

Speaker 6 (48:39):
We also do it.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
We gather get gifts for kids the names provided by
local schools who are in need of Christmas gifts from
families that can't can't manage it, and people are really
generous and we get the honor of delivering those things
every year, and it's it's pretty cool. If there was
anything that I would definitely want to do if I
only had one option during the year, would definitely be
what we do at Christmas time for kids. Of course,

(49:00):
I'm kind of biased, Vince. My birthday's December twenty fifth,
so I'm kind of like the day it.

Speaker 7 (49:05):
Was my granddaughters.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
Oh really, Well, you know, it's odd because I never
met a single person in life who you know, because
you meet somebody like, oh, my birthday's May twelve, Hey,
so's mine. I never had that happen, even though my
birthday is Christmas Day until I was in my forties
and then somebody said, Christmas Day's my birthday too. Obviously, tens
of millions of people are born in Christmas Day, but
it just never happens. So I guess I guess those
are who born in Christmas kind of keep it to

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ourselves most of the time.

Speaker 7 (49:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (49:30):
Yeah, they're right up there with you up there, but
they're over in the Green Mountain State.

Speaker 7 (49:36):
They're into Vermont.

Speaker 6 (49:37):
Oh, okay, up there with John Okay. Cool being it's yeah,
all right.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
So are you going to be in the Hill country Texas?
Is that where you're headed to get down there?

Speaker 7 (49:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (49:47):
Right now, I am. I've got a I'm in New York. Well,
I'm in Jersey. I gotta go to New York and
then I'm going to circle back down around to South
Carolina and then over to North Carolina by Friday.

Speaker 7 (50:00):
I'll get loaded on a.

Speaker 8 (50:01):
Friday and I should be in Texas by Monday.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
Okay, all right, Hopefully things will clear up a little
bit by then, and hopefully a lot of people will
have been found by them. But you know, before to
move away, fanm for just a second, I just want
to say, Vince, I think a lot of people take
many things for granted, you know, especially this day and age.
You go to Amazon, you click on something, you go
to Best Bity, click, and the next day it's at
your door.

Speaker 6 (50:26):
In order for that to.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
Happen, we rely overwhelming on long distance truckers and truckers
of all sorts who move those goods from the ports
around the country and get those place those things to
places we need them every day. And it's not just
you know, at laptops and cell phones and microphones and
jeans and and things like that, perfume, it's also food.

Speaker 6 (50:47):
Everything will rely on.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
And I think a lot of people really, even though
we drive down the highway we see semis all the time,
and you know, but I think a lot of people
don't really understand appreciate just how much effort and and
what a hard life that is for truckers. You guys
put long hours in, You got to deal with bad weather,
You've got to deal with with mechanical issues, lots of
challenges out there.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
It's not an easy life.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
But obviously there must be something that's appealing to it
because you guys do.

Speaker 7 (51:13):
It well, somebody has to.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
You like to suffer events.

Speaker 7 (51:19):
Excuse me, believe me.

Speaker 8 (51:24):
My being a truck driver, you sacrifice a lot. We
don't get to go home every day and have a
place to like have a regular meal. We're lucky if
we can see I loved ones once a month. I mean,
I I go out on the road and I get

(51:45):
to go to back to Cape Cod here in a
couple of weeks. But uh, you know, I don't get
to see New England that often where I can just
relax and have fun and visit my loved ones.

Speaker 7 (51:58):
I can go.

Speaker 8 (51:59):
I can go out on the road because of the
way I do things and the things I do. I've
been on the road for two or three months at
a time, and it is tough. It's it can get hard.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Well, you know, cell phones I think saved it for
truck drivers.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
Well, that certainly made a difference.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
I'm sure, loneliness.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
You know, being alone all the time, the solitude, it
can really eat at you.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
When you're over the road, truck driver.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Or at least a cell phone, you can keep in
touch with people. Call your wife, call your brother, call
your family members and friends.

Speaker 7 (52:29):
Yeah, well I would I would say that I got
a dog.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
Yeah, you got a dog now for three years. But
I would also say John that I suspect that the
event of the event of satellite radio. Uh, so you've
got something other than coast to coast to listen to
every night going across the country.

Speaker 8 (52:45):
Yeah, I'm I have my seras exam.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
And I just flipped the channels and looking at the channels,
but you lose them quick.

Speaker 7 (52:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (52:55):
I actually have a h my Fi in a connect
Internet connection in the truck, and so I have my
real coup TV too, So.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
That works out pretty well. And so so we're coming
up on the end of the hour. So Vince, I
want to say thanks a lot for all that you
do and for what you're doing right now. We don't
think a lot of people really appreciate it. Any any
final things you want to tell us about the organization,
or any message of hope or and you know, an
appeal for people to help out, anything you like to say,
We'll give the floor to you right now.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
It's your floor of things.

Speaker 8 (53:25):
I want to thank everybody for listening and help us
out any way you.

Speaker 7 (53:30):
Can be greatly appreciated.

Speaker 8 (53:32):
Like I said, whether it's five dollars or ten dollars,
or if it's just sharing out the link to others.
You're based out of New England up there, and hey,
I'm a fellow New Englander. And just because Texas is
halfway across the country does not mean they're not on neighbors.

Speaker 7 (53:52):
We're all neighbors in one way or another, you know. Yeah, just.

Speaker 8 (54:00):
I just really can thank everybody for the support that
they're giving. I thank both of you for allowing me
to come on the show and talk to me. I'm
sorry about the disconnecting along the way. But I really appreciate,
you know, getting the word out and helping these people
in Texas. And the hard part is to think about

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is we just started hurricane season. So this is not
going to be the first disaster I'm going to have
to deal with this year. It's not the first disaster
that this country is going to have to deal with.
And we've seen hurricanes all the way up the coast,
right up in New England where things have been wiped out.
And when we're in need, or you're in need, we

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want to be able to come and help you. And
the people that you help now other people that are
going to step up to help us help you. It's
a big circle. We all bleed the same. We all
have a country. If we have family, we have a beliefe.

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And like I said earlier in the show, this country
wasn't built on a government. It was built on neighbors
helping neighbors. It was helping each other, build each other's bonds,
plant each other's gardens. Somebody got sick, you'd go over
and you'd harvest his crop for him so that his
family could survive the winter. You know, we got to

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get back to that. We got to get back.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
To knowing your neighbor.

Speaker 8 (55:39):
Tomorrow morning, go out and if you don't know who's
next door, introduce yourself, say hey, you need something.

Speaker 7 (55:47):
Let me know. You have an elderly person down the
street who can't get out and go get milk. Help
him get it well.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
Vince Saman thank you, Thank you very much. That's going
to wrap it up for this hour. Good luck on
your trip down there, and we look forward to hearing
more from you.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
God blessed and.

Speaker 7 (56:02):
Have a lovely bless you. Thank you.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
We'll be back in the next hour after the news
stick around for more of the common sense Conservative. Our
guest was Vince Saban with.

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I got my throat was choked up. There can you.
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Speaker 3 (57:33):
Chris uh So.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Trump gave an announcement the other day, had press briefing
and stuff like that, had a whole crew there with him,
and he was asked about during the course of this thing.
He was asked about the Epstein files, when well, when
will you be releasing the Epstein files. He got kind
of irate about it. He was like, what are you
seriously asked me about the Epstein files?

Speaker 3 (57:53):
What are you not over this? And He's like, oh,
we we.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Just had this tragedy, and it is a tragedy. What
happened Texas, no doubt. We just listened to We spoke
about this for an hour now and and I took
note of it, and I hope people do support of
it saving and his efforts there. But yeah, I was
kind of taken back a little bit because human trafficking
is a tragedy within itself, and what happened to Texas

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was a natural disaster. It couldn't be helped by mankind.
Nobody caused it.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
It happened.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Well, it couldn't help, but it could have been mitigated.
That's a different story.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
But yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, possibly do that.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
But the point is is it wasn't natural disaster, and
it was you know, it's tragic just the same, and
when we all feel for folks in Texas, I ain't
no doubt about it. But what happened with Epstein is
human cause these are these are evil people that did
evil things. And so I was kind of taken back
by the responding about you if you if you watch
this interview or not this discussion, but.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
I read comments, I was.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
I was taken back by it because the way he
reacted to it passed the Dapan bonding. It was almost
like they were acting defensively. I think they're taking a
lot of heat over it.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
I don't know they are.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
They're definitely taking a lot of heat over it. Day
you've got Jack Probosak. You've got a number of people
on the right side of the isle who are upset
about this. Listen, you know it's people have different actions,
And so my reaction to this is that this is
my take because my audience is asking me, what.

Speaker 6 (59:15):
About the Epstein files, what about the client list?

Speaker 5 (59:17):
And my question is, why are you people so obsessed
with a pedo? Well, what are you possibly going to
know about this? Why does it matter? And this is
my view I'm I'm just trying to put out there
to me. I find it repulsive. It's something that I
really don't need to know about it. Because he's dead.
They have it, put Jazay Maxwell and justly Maxwell in
prison for her actions. Hopefully the estate there'll be money

(59:40):
to compensate the victims who've come forward in civil cases.
But beyond that, I mean, there's nothing that can be
gained from this redical learning new techniques to prevent recruiting
and human trafficking, things like that, we're not and why
the public is so obsessed with it, I do not understand.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
That's my hang on me fishing, that's my take.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
On it now. But the reason that I probably approach
it that way john Is. Of course, I'm federal law
enforcement official and investigator at Counter Intelligenation, an intelligence analysts,
and of course some sworn secrecy and many many many things.
And there are things that the public just simply doesn't
have a need to know, and I think this is
one of them, this obsession with a client list that
doesn't exist, and now they're claiming that Pambonni said it exists.

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But she was obtuse in her response, and I didn't
infer that there was a client list. I just inferred
she had the file on her desk and she was
getting to it. So I understand why peoplere upset because
it was almost like the Trump administration promised to deliver something,
but I never expected to get anything delivered.

Speaker 6 (01:00:33):
And maybe that's why I'm just kind of non plus
by the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
All right, Yeah, So she did say that, she said
that there was no client list, and she said the
things that she did have for evidence she did find
in her desk because she made acknowledge me. She says,
I told everybody I had a file on my desk,
and I had to go through the file. When I
went through the file, what I discovered was a lot
of child pornography. I can't share child pornography out to
the public. So, uh no, you're not going to see that,

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and I'm sure nobody wants to. I mean, I should
open that nine nine point nine to the affinity of
us percent do not want to see that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Nonsense. My issue, Chris, and I think a lot of
people's issue.

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
What the matter is they want the client list because
they want accountability. They want those who were involved and
responsible and to part in this action to be held
accountable for their actions. They want them prosecuted. They want
Hollywood types to be taken down because they were involved
into human traffic. We hear stories about it from people
from Mollywood all the time about their involvements in human trafficking.

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We wanted to stop and we think that maybe if
the list came out, if there was a list and
it came out, that these people should be investigation, we
charged and brought to justice.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
But we don't need a list to investigate people. We
know that Bill Clinton was there. We have the travel
records from private jets. So but the thing is, nothing's
going to happen. Whitewater Vince Foster selling technology to the
Chinese communists, which is under minor national defense to raise
money for their campaign. These are all things that Clintons
were involved in, and nothing's ever happened to him not
to mention perjury in.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Conrat And that's quote I was going to follow up with,
is why is there not an investigation?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Why are they not investigating these people? I mean, you
just clearly said it. Nobody's going to be charged.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Nobody's going to be investigated, and it's really eating at
the hearts of people because they should be. We know
who was there, and we know that everybody was there.
We don't assume that they're guilty of any wrongdoing because
it was a pleasure isle. It wasn't necessarily for that
specific person purpose as far as human trafficking.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Goes, so well and fine, but we knew they were there,
and they.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
Must have seen things, they must have known things, and
we could work our way through it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
I got you, and I appreciate what you're coming from.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
It was odd to see some people come in my chat
to make comments, and other programs appeared on saying that
that I'm sensitive to the issue, or that you know
that I don't want to talk about it, or that
somehow that I endorsed that nonsense.

Speaker 6 (01:02:41):
I mean, that's that's ludicrous.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
Again, I give my perspective why it's not something I'm
focused on. At the same time, good news came out
of the Justice Department. Something I've been screaming about since
this administration came back in power on the twentieth of January,
and that.

Speaker 6 (01:02:54):
Specifically is the FBI has been an investigation.

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
It's James Comy and and to Brandon the communists who
was the former director of CIA, for their defrauding the
American people, their perjury in Congress and their testimony, the
lying and cooking up the fake Russia hoax from twenty sixteen.
So it's about time to see this now. We need
to go forward and all these scumbags in the Biden

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regime who committed crimes.

Speaker 6 (01:03:18):
See, these are crimes that affect all of us, all
of us.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
All of us are harmed by children being abused, that's true,
but all of us are directly harmed by our freedom
of speech being abrogated by a corrupt government that uses
third parties in the tech sector to silence us in
violation the First Amendment. The tech companies can silence you
because that's an agreement between you and a tech company.
It's a private contract. But the government cannot silence your speech.

(01:03:44):
That is a violation the First Amendment, a natural right.
And they did it. The Bibe regime did it. They
told Facebook, they told YouTube, they told Instagram, they they
told Twitter. Shut these accounts down. Don't let these people
because they didn't like what people are saying, not because
they said something criminal that affected all of us, that
harmed the station, and a scam was carried out that
affected hundreds of millions of people. So my interest is

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much more in where we go against those people and
against the likes Ofcomy Peter Struck, Lisa Page, Bruce or
all of these people who violated their oaths to the
Constitution and harmed America and led us down a path
that put us in such a bad situation.

Speaker 6 (01:04:22):
That's my focus. And what happened with Epstein.

Speaker 5 (01:04:25):
It's not like Britain where the people from South Asia,
Pakistanis and others were sexually grooming young English girls and
pimping them out and beating them and putting them in drugs,
and that went on for years because the police looked
the other way. This is over Epstein and Jesse and
Maxwell are done. He's dead, she's in prison, so traffic
he still continues, let's focus on people being traffied right

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now with people in sexual slave right now.

Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
So that's kind of where I come at it from.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
And some people disagree, and that's fine that they're progative,
but I'm all about changing what we can and punishing
those we can. We can't punish Epstein and Jose Maxell's
already been punished, so I mean, what do we hope
achieved there by revealing the details of the case.

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
I appreciate where people coming.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
I think the argument you're gonna make come back to
me is that, well, you just said punish people. There's
a lot of people need to be punished. I agree,
but I don't think the public needs to know that
until charges are brought.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
Absolutely, it doesn't concern the public until I mean, they
can't just evolge an investigation and give out all the
information they would have an investigation.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
It would be crippled.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
You got good points, and I think your concerns about
people being silenced, especially by the United States government under
the Biden administration, are are equal proportions.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
I mean, if we're being silent. We can't talk about this,
We can't talk about that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
It no longer gains traction, you know what I mean
because part of what we're doing here doing a radio
show or even social media, people haven't a discourse on
social media as part of what goes on. And believe
it or not, a lot of members of Congress and
other are federal officials will pay attention to what people
are saying on social media.

Speaker 5 (01:05:52):
Well indeed in fact, but we see now so many
different things we were censored for on YouTube, on Twitter
have been proven to be trill as we go forward.
Now it's all coming out and the left is like,
all so what not so what? You silence debate about
something and you change the course of history. People are
dead because they silent speech. People are dead because of
what happened. They sent our parents, our grandparents, our aunts

(01:06:15):
and uncles into well, they sent the people infected with
COVID into their nursing homes and killed them by the
tens of thousands in New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.
And nobody's been held to account for that. That's what
I want to see held account. Where's that investigation at
Let's get Department Justice on that. That's what I want
to say.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Yeah, can't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
We can't say too much as far as medical stuff
because we'll be censored in YouTube. However, a lot of
the stuff that we have said in the passive and
silence for is come to fru wishes come to be
true today.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
True, It's been proven true, and we knew it was
true at the time because we reported unobjectively, not hysterically,
and they shut us down because it was a threat.
That's why they shut us down, because we were a
threat to their narrative. And these people are horrible, they're
shameful people. They all need to be brought to justice.
I have very little confidence that they will be brought
to justice. Bill Clinton will never face justice first crimes
against this country. Barack Obama will never face justice for

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helping nuclear arm Iran in the crimes against this country
and the million people dead in midd Least because of
his naive foreign policy.

Speaker 6 (01:07:08):
And Steady's a hero.

Speaker 5 (01:07:08):
It makes forty five million dollars a year off of
Facebook for their racist production of movies. It's sick, it's twisted.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
I think what we're add on a lot of this
stuff is in the eighteen eighties when they were doing
the expansion of the West, building the railroads. It put
a lot of grant money. The federal US government put
out a lot of grant money for construction of railroads.
And this became a free for all and a lot
of people were pocketing a lot of money off the
federal government. And they started investigating this, and the more

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they investigated this, more they were uncovering.

Speaker 7 (01:07:37):
The more they.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Uncovered, the book figure it became. It becomes so big
that they realized.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
Look, we just don't have the funds, we don't have
the resources, we don't have time to grab.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
All these people and prosecute.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
They more or less just swept it under the carpet
because we're just overwhelming. And I think that's where we're
at now with the Epstein case, with many other cases
when it comes to the federal government, in criminal activity
within the federal government, the corruption is it gets swept
under the carpet because it's just too difficult for them
to manage. And it's sad because we need justice for this,
because cruption continues if you don't investigate.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Cruption continues if you don't prosecute.

Speaker 6 (01:08:08):
Well, I think the answer here.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
The probably running into now is because the Biden regime
gave them a chance to run the clock out, So
we can't prosecute Hillary for her crimes. The statute limitations
has expired. We were running out of time to prosecute
some of these other people what they did in twenty sixteen.
Many of these crimes are no longer prosecutable. But I
think that it's perfect okay to bring a case against

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some of these people for treason, whether you win the
case or not. Put the fear of God in them
for their actions and for future transgressors that you will
be prosecuted. It's really sad what's happened here, But you know,
you know, this is even the biggest cover up of
the week. The biggest cover up of the week is
what we've known about for a long time. At the
top of the hour, they talked about that, Chairman James
Comer said at a statement of doctor O'Connor pleading the

(01:08:52):
fifth According to Comor, O'Connor, Biden's longtime personal physician, was
asked two key questions today. Were you ever told to
lie about the presence health? Did you ever believe President
Biden was unfit to execute his duties. Now. The first
one I can understand protecting himself. The second one, Wow,
did you ever think he was unfit? Well, you had
a responsibility, moral obligation, of legal obligation to tell the

(01:09:12):
public or at least tell the administration. In both instances,
doctor O'Connor took the fifth He invoked his Fifth Amendment
right to protect him against self incrimination. That doesn't mean
he's guilty, but I don't see what else it could
possibly in the circumstance. And Comer said that this is unprecedent,
and I think that this adds more fuel to the
fire that there was a cover up. It's clear there
was a conspiracy to cover up President Biden's cognitive decline.

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After doctor Kevin O'Connor, Biden's physician and family business associate,
refused by the way business associate that tells you more
there refuse to answer any questions and chose to high
bind the Fifth Amendment. The American people demand transparency, but
doctor O'Connor would rather conceal the truth. Doctor O'Connor took
the Fifth Amendment and ask if he was told to
lie about President Biden's health and whether he was fit
to be president United States. Congress must assess legislative solutions

(01:09:56):
to prevent such a cover up from happening again.

Speaker 6 (01:09:59):
He will continue to inter you more.

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
Biden White House aids to get the answers in America's deserve,
but they're not going to get the answers. This is
the biggest cover up, and we need to go after
the media. The media has a moral obligation to report news,
and if they're doing up ed that's another story. But
when they do propaganda, they need to be held to
a standard. They need to be held to accountability. And
the media ignored the story. They covered the story up

(01:10:22):
the cognitive client. I mean, look, we've got the videos
of of Joe Biden falling up the stairs repeatedly getting
on Air Force one.

Speaker 6 (01:10:28):
The guy lost, completely lost.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
I mean, there's a whole meme of three minutes of him,
you know, halfway through his term, where he just got
lost in the conversation. No idea is that. Never mind,
the guy is mentally unstable and degraded. Frankly, I say,
he's been that way since he got Congress, but it's
much more obvious the past five years, and the fact
that this was covered up is I think at the
moment the biggest scandal in American.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Yeah, no, it's it is well that in Barack Obama's
birth certificate may have not been actually born in the
United States, but.

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
Well he was born in US territory. Hawaii was territory.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
So anyway, Well, yeah, I was going somewhere else with that,
but we we do have a co host calling then
let me grab Todd real quick.

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
Oh my goodness, did you get him out of the club? Yeah,
because he got a Baccardi and coke in his hand.

Speaker 6 (01:11:18):
What's going on here?

Speaker 10 (01:11:19):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
You got me? John?

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Yeah, you're on.

Speaker 7 (01:11:22):
All right?

Speaker 10 (01:11:22):
Perfect? Yeah, I just want to call on real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
So what's going on? Man? What's what?

Speaker 7 (01:11:26):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
What's what could be more important than the common sense conservatives?

Speaker 10 (01:11:31):
Well, I can tell you what's more important is some
people gambling in the American legion. I had to come
shut a post down here in East Ridge, Tennessee.

Speaker 8 (01:11:40):
Oh.

Speaker 10 (01:11:41):
I hate to put their business out there, but hey,
I had had to work today, So that what kept
me away from the show to today. But I see
you guys had a guest and hope that went well.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
It did.

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
Actually, Chris did a great, excellent job interviewing him. He
really picked it up and had a great discussion with him.
He was in and out a little bit because of
his signal, but we out. We got a pretty good
conversation out of them, and hopefully a lot of people
got something.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Out of it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
Good.

Speaker 10 (01:12:07):
Good, Yeah, I just wanted to call on real quick
and just touch base with you and apologize when I've
been on the show tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
Oh well, we're glad to hear from you. It's nice
that you've made your presence known. Anyway, if you can't
be here, what do you have back to the house?

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
You driving home now?

Speaker 10 (01:12:21):
No, No, I just got just got to a hotel.
I'm about to check in right now. So I just
want to call real quick when I had a quick
at a.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Moment, I got you there.

Speaker 10 (01:12:29):
All right, but I appreciate it. Guys, have as great
rest of the show.

Speaker 6 (01:12:32):
All right, all right, thanks a lot for conning you assume.
All right, all right, Well there you go. John.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
That's you know, another example of people volunteering their time.
You know, of course, Uh Todd volunteers is time to
help with the American Legion. I do the same with
the veterans of Foreign Wars. And eats up a lot
of our personal time and and and it actually wears
on you quite a bit too, because you deal with
a lot of issues in our in our case for veterans,
helping them overcome issues and get resources for them. It's
very time consuming. And now with the VA looking at it,

(01:12:59):
at firing eighty thousand employees, it might just become a
bit more challenging for us going forward.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Is Trump firing eighty thousand employees? Is that a Trump
thing part of his executive order?

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
Or is this Trump Trump?

Speaker 6 (01:13:11):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
No, Trump directed that all these agencies cut their head count,
and the VA came back with a figure of eighty
thousand employees a few months ago. So, now that the
Supreme Court has said it's in his authority to do it,
which we knew all along, they're probably going to start
laying off people from the VA.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
I didn't expect that because Trump has always supported the VA,
he's always supported veterans, and I didn't think you would
do any cuts there, and he still may not. Maybe
he didn't mean it for them directly.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
I mean, but okay, first off, the bad loves to
run with that story. They tell the story eighty thousand
to scare people. My response to that is, first off,
who are we talking about. We're talking about clinicians, doctors,
lab technicians or are we talking to administrative people?

Speaker 6 (01:13:51):
Are we talking about people in DC? All the country?
Probably all the country?

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
That many people? But does it necessarily mean that benefits
or resources the veterans go away, because remember it's not
just hospitals the Veterans Administration. They handle home loans, that's
something they also do. They also handle education benefits for veterans.
They do across the gamut, so it's every part of
the services for veterans that they deliver are probably going
to take some sort of hit. But maybe there's some

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head counting that's unnecessary that accounts for part of that
eight thousand and the other part of this too is
that and I'm going to ask is that if it's medical,
the VA choice, I think that's what they call it.
I'm eligible for AVA care and I'm enrolled, but I
don't use it at the moment. But the VA choice
is where you can't get to a VA hospital, you
can go to civilian hospital. Well, I mean, if the

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VA hospitals are seeing less traffic as a consequence of
declining number of veterans which we have right now, and
also as a consequence of veterans taking up that choice
option and going to a doctor in their town that
the government pays for instead of going to the VA
hospital fifty miles away, then maybe we don't have a
greater need as great a need for as many people.

Speaker 6 (01:14:52):
I don't know the answer. I'm just saying that to me.

Speaker 5 (01:14:54):
There's a lot of open questions before I start freaking
out about eighty thousand people being let loose from the VA.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Yeah, I'm sure if if he's doing it, it's gonna
be it's manageable. It's got to be some like overkilling
employees or something.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Uh, lots of our veterans are taken care of. That's
what matters as far as that regard goes. I just yeah,
prized to hear it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
No, it's a big number, but it's not just that.
I mean, all these departments are looking cutting headcount. The
only there's a couple of places exempted. The military is exempted,
the White House staff is accepted, uh, and the air
traff control things like that. But uh, yeah, there's a
there's a lot of a lot of reductions coming. In fact,
they try to blame Trump for, you know, the loss
of life in the Hill Country of Texas. They fraudently

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claim they're still run around, claim that Trump cut all
these personnel. The cuts that are coming to Noah and
to the National Weather Service haven't taken place. That haven't
taken place. They're projected and planned for next year, next
fiscal year. So blaming him for something that hasn't happened
is just ludicrous. But I mean that's what the Democrats do.
They try to create a fictitious narrative. But the bottom
line is this, folks. You know, you know, you could

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sit there and moan about the reduction of jobs and
for the people losing jobs, that sucks for them, But
there's thirteen million vacant jobs in America. There's a job
out there for people who are losing their jobs.

Speaker 6 (01:16:10):
And the other thing is.

Speaker 5 (01:16:11):
That we can continue to hire people and pay people
with money we don't have and go bankrupt and then
we all go hungry and our currency becomes worthless in
you know, X number of years, or we can reform
this system and continue this country's history.

Speaker 6 (01:16:23):
As we approach her two hundred and fiftyth year.

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
First things first, it's not the government's job to employee people.
The government employees people to fill positions that are absolutely needed.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Correct what we're getting to here. One thing I do have.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
You know, we spoke about the Big Beautiful Bill last
week some and we really didn't get a chance to
get into it much as.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Far as reading the Big Beautiful Bill.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
And I kind of I didn't dive into a deep
I kind of been through it a little bit and
listen to some other people, professionals takes on it and
stuff and off. It's really not a bad bill for
the most part, but we're talking about these cuts and
we're talking about you know, maybe at deprived services, maybe
it doesn't. Well, one of the things I did find
in the bill that I was wondering about, you know,
with all this excessive spending, is there's money you set

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aside for space trip we're talking about to build on the.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Moon and try to make it to Mars.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
And I saw stuff like that, and like I said,
and go deep into it, but I'm going, is this
really the time to be appropriating funds for that?

Speaker 7 (01:17:21):
Ah?

Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
Well, it's a fair question.

Speaker 5 (01:17:23):
We funded an awful lot of stuff, you know, the
Army is trying to save two million dollars by getting
rid of its horse drawn units at ford Hood and
if the artillery school in Ford's sil they're going to
only have one unit left in the army and has horses.

Speaker 6 (01:17:34):
Some would argue, why we mean horses at all.

Speaker 5 (01:17:36):
But they do ceremony events which are important to morale
as spree and also for the image army and for recruiting.
You know, it's you know, space needs to be funded.
We haven't been back to the Moon in five decades.
That's insane. We should be We should have on the moon.
We should have settlements now, we should have be doing
research on the moon. We should be using the Moon
as a launch pad to get further into the into

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the That was the system. Yeah, but we had because
we've abandoned it. We didn't put the money there. We
put money to Shuttle program, which had merit but really
wasn't what need to be done. So anyway, you know,
I don't have a problem with funding that. The question
is is not that. See here's the thing and John,
when people want to say, you know, are we funding
the right things? My answer to this is that are

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we funding the right things? Eighty two percent of the
budget is non discretionary. It's mandated by existing law. Entitlements, Medicare, Medicaid,
so security. So the president only gets to side eighteen
percent of the budget. And if he spends a few
million or few billion dollars in space exporation, I don't
have an issue because that's not what's putting us in
the craft.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
That was congressional. Now that came out of the budget,
and that came congressionally.

Speaker 5 (01:18:41):
But wherever it comes from, whether it's the president ultimately
signs the bill into law, so it's his. It's his budget,
whether Congress adjusts or not. But if we if eighteen
percent of the budget spent on things, yet we're not
touching in the entitlements program, which is what's putting us
in debt and going to push us to the insolvency,
then you know that's where the savings are. It's like
DOSEE came along, We're gonna save two trellion in the budget.

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I'm like, you're smoking crack cookine, buddy, that's impossible. How
can you save two tree in the discretionary Budget's only
like two point six two point eight trillion dollars that's
all that you have any discretion over. So if you
get to cut two trillion, then you'll have no Coastguard,
no Federal Aviation Administration, no customs, immigration, no no National
Weather Service, no military. There'll be no money. There'll be
a few hundred bion. The defense budget alone is nine

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hundred plus billion dollars, and there would be only about
six hundred million left to fund the entire federal government.

Speaker 6 (01:19:30):
I mean, this is just pieing this kind nonsense.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
So when Elon Muskin Doze came along s they're gonna
clan cut two trill I'm like, okay, that sounds nice.

Speaker 6 (01:19:36):
Hopefully they'll cut a few hundred billion.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
Well they did find a few hundred million, but no
one wants to touch the sacred cows of Social Security, Medicare,
and Medicaid in a snifficant way.

Speaker 6 (01:19:44):
And don't don't fall for the hype that Trump in
his budget cut medicaid. He didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
He just said people are capable work, You have to work,
you don't get the benefits. So the media runs around,
they've cut all these ten million people, aren't. No, get
off your backside, go work because you're able, Go volunteer.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
And put clarity on that. Nobody thinks a guy in
the wheelchairs go to get up and go start swinging
a hammer, you know, I mean, it's obviously these are
able bodied people. They're toll mother, they're just erroneously collected
Medicaid or or Social security disability, and they're capable working
in some regard or another. I can't understand, you know.
I don't know about you, Chris, but often think, you know,
what if I became handicapped, what if I became wheelchair bound?

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
What would I do? Can I not train for for
software development?

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Cannot train for something that involves sitting where I can
to operate to compla exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
And so my argument to all that is that is
that what's his name there in the wheelchair?

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
The scientists Hawking?

Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
Step Stephen Stephen Hawking couldn't communicate one of the most
brilliant minds on the planet. He had to use tiny
little movements to electronically move a keyboard to speak for him.
And he contributed society. He wrote books, He dictated books
on science and exploration, and came up with theories that

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are amazing. If Stephen Hawking can do that when he
basically can't move. They actually anybody can contribute to work
in some way, no matter what their handicap is.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
Yeah, I imagine there's some things that may be not
so feasible for some people. I mean there are, absolutely
but your points valid. I mean, people can, people can
retrain given certain circumstances. I hear guys that have a
bad back and they can't they can't do manual labor.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
That's fine, But what can you do?

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
And it's a matter of fact, so you don't need
to support And I remember, you know, I know a
lot of people don't like to give Bill Clinton a
whole lot of credit. But in the nineties he did.
He did revert from and I think this is working
across the aisle. He did revert from giving handouts. He said,
we don't need handouts. What we need our hands up.
We need to hands up approach. We need to make
it so people can be up. And what he did

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is he stopped doing welfare. So much were attracted on that,
and he actually told people, he says, listen, the babies
you got in the welfare getting that's fine. Now we're
not taking that away from you have a baby. Now,
we're not giving.

Speaker 5 (01:21:54):
It to you.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
He says, but if you want an education, we're here
to support you. And that's what they did back then.
In really that program will be worked and the idea
of it was, now you'll be a contributing member of society.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
There's a benefit for it, there's a return on this investment.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
Well, I mean, you know it's this is the thing
about the Democratic Party. I mean, you're talking about a
Democrat who is really a centrist in many respects.

Speaker 6 (01:22:15):
But these Democrats don't exist him are.

Speaker 5 (01:22:17):
I mean, if we go back and we look at
the top tax rate in the United States in nineteen
fifties was like ninety percent of income for wealthy ninety
percent went to the federal government for income tax under
the progressive tax system. Do you know who cut the
corporate or the personal tax rate to record lows at
the time. Want to guess which president.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
That was that cut the personal tax rate, cut it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
From cut the personal cup tax rate from ninety percent
for the top bracket. They lowered it too much lower
than forty percent. Only I don't remember exactly about but
he lowered it. Who do you think there was? Reagan?

Speaker 6 (01:22:49):
Regan?

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
I was going to say Reagan originally I'm thinking, I
think this before Reagan.

Speaker 5 (01:22:53):
Thinks before Reagan.

Speaker 6 (01:22:54):
Reagan, John Fitzgerald, Kennedy, Oh Kennedy, John.

Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
Fitzgro Can, who believed in national offense, believed in the
rule of law, believed in lower taxes. A Democrat lower taxes.
That's where the Democrats were.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
He was not who they are now, he really was.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
I mean, his party is the party that brought in
personal look contacts in the first place in nineteen thirteen.

Speaker 5 (01:23:20):
Well, he's the guy that lowered it from ninety percent.
He got it to change lowered. So my point here
is that is that the Democrats are n't reliable because
they're not those people anymore. That's who they were, That's
not who they are, and that's part of the of
the problem in this country. They're just a bunch of
whack of Duda lunatics that will support anything that just
hates America and hates white men, hates Christians, and hates heterosexuals.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
That's the issue within itself, you know. I mean, they
exhibit racism in a whole different way. Redistribution of wealth
is take away from the white guy and give to minorities.
This redistribution of wealth is to take away from large
corporations or businesses or rich folks to make sure that
poor folks have it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
And they're predominant folks. This is minorities. They always claim
minorities in these regards.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
And so instead of helping people get up and going
to get back to what Bill Clinton was talking about
in the nineties, instead of helping people better themselves, they
would rather just take away from people that have bettered
themselves and give people that won't well.

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
This is failed sociist and communist ideology, thinking that the
pie is limited. But again I go back to this
whole point I made before. If the pie is limited,
in other words, there's only so much you can get
from it, then why isn't the world starving to death?
We were told by the Worldwatch Institute and Lester Brown
that we would all be starving by nineteen ninety because
the population was expanded. We'd hit eight nine b and

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we wouldn't be able to feed those people. But a
little thing called the green Revolution happened in nineteen sixties.
Increased crop yields, more fertilization, jeens, splicing, all this sort
of stuff. Now, is you have GMO modified You know,
we have far more food produced and wasted than we've
ever had. And obese is a global problem, not simply
an American problem. Morbid OBC is a global problem as well,

(01:24:57):
because we have too much food. What we have is
a mald distribution of food. Some people who need it
don't get it when they need it because it's not
distribute right places, either for criminal activity or for warfare conflict,
or because people just don't have the resources. But the
bottom line is it the planet can more than feed
itself many times over. Also, you know, when it comes
to you know, there's only so much this and so

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much of that, as if wealth is derived entirely from
the extraction of iron ore or magnesium or manganese.

Speaker 6 (01:25:25):
But the bottom line.

Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
Here is that, in fact, we created an entire ecosphere,
an entire economy out of thin air on the Internet. Yes,
it takes electricity to run it, but it takes electricity
to run anything. Yes it takes computers, but use computers
for everything, not just for the Internet. And we have businesses, retail, business, wholesalers, shipping.
We have the Internet which allows people to determine whether

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it's the right day to bring your goats to market
in the sahell in Africa, and well, no, don't bring
it today because eight other people brought them in and
the price is going to drop because there's too many
goats on sales.

Speaker 6 (01:25:55):
So you come next.

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
Week and we have all of this and millions and
millions and millions and millions a job and three ds
of dollars wealth been generated almost out of thin air.
If the pile only had four slices, where did the
slice the internet come from? It didn't. The point here
is that leftists always get it wrong. A rising tide
does in fact lift all ships. It's not like when
the tie goes up, one ship stays low, because if

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it did, it have a hole in it be sinking.

Speaker 6 (01:26:18):
Kind of like the communists.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
That's it right there. They shoot themselves on the foot
and one reach to the bottom of the boat.

Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
Yeah, when they're not busy shooting us in the back
of the head.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Yeah, I'm trying.

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
Yep, definitely tryed. So you know, it's it's it's The
world is is not as complicated as a lot of
people making out to be. But they really try to
pretend that the world is something it's not. And we
should call them out on that each and every day.
I think that's our role.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, if they're a especially when the line man,
you know what they say, I can tell their line
their lips are moving.

Speaker 6 (01:26:52):
Yeah, sounds like a politician. Yeah, it sounds like AOC.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
AOC the Democrat Party. You know, she'd be running for
president here twenty twenty eight or so.

Speaker 5 (01:27:02):
And you know that's that's that's fascinating to me, John,
because that'll mean that I'm just, you know, so excited
to date an aspiring presidential candidate.

Speaker 6 (01:27:11):
You know, we all want to date here.

Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
She's so hot, so we hear so she said, she
said she's so hot that all the Republicans want to
date her.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Yeah, that she was trying to claim that was the
infection wation.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
Yeah, well i'd say, you know, I guess that must
be the case.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
I mean, A see, I think I think I think
that might be an expression of self absorbed she is
because I'm playing a lot of attension to people like
Omar and Presley and a lot of these other morons.
Do I mean, we talk about Schumer on a regular
basis and put them down too, but doesn't mean we
want to date them.

Speaker 5 (01:27:41):
Yeah, you know, and we're not called massages. When we
attack Chucky Shimmer or Mitch McConnell, we're called we're called honest.
But if but if you say something against Jasmin Kracking,
you're a misogynist. You're picky gout with it. Now, we're
just picking on you know, self proclaimed idiots. Goodness, Yeah,
there's some real winners in that party over there. Also.

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You know, the thing about the Democratic Party, which is fascinating,
which nobody has the courage to say, is that the
probably the Democratic Party is it's not representative America. What
do you mean, Chris, Look at the faces, look at
the ethnic origin of the Democratic Party. The United States
is not forty percent black or thirty percent black, but
the Democratic Party is twenty five thirty percent black. United
States is twelve percent black. Talk about overrepresentation of one
group in particular, but in many groups. You know, the

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United States is not twenty percent gay, but it seems
like twenty percent of Democrats and Congress are gay. That's
a whilely overrepresented group. And nothing against being gay or
being black, there's nothing for against that. That's who people are.
I don't criticize that. What I'm saying is that we
constantly hear how things aren't representative society. But the NFL
is sixty five percent black, the NBA seventy eight percent black.

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That's not representative society. So I'm just making a notation
here that almost nobody calls up Democrats for not reflecting
what society looks like, just.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Saying, yeah, I see your point.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
For Capany, it will be an imbalance that way. I
guess if you're going to look at it that way, well,
I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:29:02):
That's how they're always looking at it. You know, if
I were president, I picked the cabinets full of white men.
They call me racist because I have no people color
or misoges because they have no women. And I'd look
at him say no, I picked the best candids for
the job. They just happened to I'll be men next question, right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Right, So.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
That's her action to try to take encounterbellance something that
they declare to be true that isn't true here again.

Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
Yeah, but honestly, if I were president, I'd probably be
along the lines of Trump because my administration would be
full of all kinds of towned people.

Speaker 6 (01:29:30):
And you got people.

Speaker 5 (01:29:31):
Drooling over press conferences over Carolyn Levitt and Pam Bondy.

Speaker 6 (01:29:34):
I mean, you know, they're they're best people.

Speaker 5 (01:29:36):
I'd hire them.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
Carolyn love it man. She is sharp, she is as
young as she is, and she's got it together.

Speaker 5 (01:29:44):
She's a spitfire man. She's got an answer for all
of it, and then she handles them. Compare this to
how they were abusive to Sean Spicer when he became
the press sector. I remember that, how chaotic that was.
They're so disrespectful of that guy. And he was short
lived in that role.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Oh Sean Spicer, Yeah he does that. He does the
brief books at.

Speaker 6 (01:30:01):
I have no idea what he's doing now, but he
was the press secretary.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
I put that up on the screen there during the
break Frave books and yeah, he was doing an ad
for him at one time.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
They do Christian books for children.

Speaker 5 (01:30:10):
Okay, but remember he was the press secretary when Trump
took over and the press was just annoying and rabbit
remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
I don't. I don't, actually, I don't recall.

Speaker 5 (01:30:19):
Oh no, he was the press sector and these press
conferencers were annoying, and then he left after a few months. Yeah,
it's just it was terrible. So Tony Snow is a
great press secretary. I think of the Bush administration. Sadly
he died from cancer. Uh, and the former Fox host.
And then we also had Dana Perino. She was okay,
she was with Bush. And then who's the other one,
the Kaylene Mcananie. She's a little tiny thing. She was.

Speaker 6 (01:30:41):
Uh, yeah, she was decent.

Speaker 5 (01:30:43):
She was. But but I'm saying that Carolyn Levitt, I think,
hands down is the best practice.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
I've ever seen with her in the first Trump administration.
Wow was twelve, she was very.

Speaker 7 (01:30:55):
I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:30:57):
Twenty six, twenty eight something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
Yeah, read back then, I don't know, Well.

Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
It must have been twenty three twenty two. Might right
out of college sort of thing.

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
But yeah, but I would say that Carolyn Levitt is
the most polished and the most in the best informat.
Compare her to Caree Jean Pierre, America's favorite black lesbian
by the way, in case she didn't know that, I
only know that because she told me that. Because she
told me that Caree Jean Pierre, by the way, where
does she just spared to CNN? Yet?

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
I have no idea. I'm not certain.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
I'm not certain she got any offers after she left
office or left the.

Speaker 5 (01:31:29):
Well, she made a lot of people in that regime angry.
But she really carried the water for them, really really
carried the water for them. I don't think they appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
Yeah, yeah, oh many ways. Are you Cologne Wyatt?

Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
Now No, someone's just.

Speaker 5 (01:31:47):
So some of our viewers it's not their first language,
so that you know, they get typos too, so.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
It could have been autocorrect.

Speaker 7 (01:31:56):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
Wow, Yeah, you're right, You're right, Mark, he's pretty blentless.
He gets on it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:04):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 6 (01:32:05):
Sorry, it got distracted here.

Speaker 5 (01:32:06):
Something just came in and I had to deal with
very quickly here. But yeah, so let's talk about the
elephant in the room, not in our room, but in
the room of many national headquarters in national capitals around
the world right now. That is Donald Trump's reciprocal tariff letters,
which started going up Monday. And I'll have to be
honest with you, John, I did not expect to see

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South Africa on there. Not that I didn't expect see teriffs,
but I figured South Africa didn't rise to a high
enough level that it would garner Trump's attention until Wednesday.
But in fact, on day one, when Japan and South
Korea got their tariff letters, South Africa also got a letter,
but I think it had a lot to do with
the fact that on Sunday, the Bricks Nations issued a
statement which they insulted President Trump and the United States,

(01:32:47):
not by name, but by implication, and Trump responded said,
any country that supports bricks policies will get an additional
ten percent tariffy no exceptions. So the next day I
have a feeling that if they had the letters and
they were wait, sir, do you want to put this
one on top now with the first batch, and it
was South there, because yeah, he probably said here's your side.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
I was like, oh, yeah, there you go, Bill, Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
Yeah, Now did you did you read any of these letters?
I mean, it's just the Yeah, let me pull one
of them up here. It's I'll get it, the one
for South African. I'll read it to you and so
people get a feel for what was actually said here.
By the present, I mean, it's pretty boll it's it's
actually I mean, if you're not receiving the tariffs, if
you're not receiving it, it's actually pretty entertaining. So I'll
read the one that went to South Africa. My computer
cooperates here it's there we go. It's a little while

(01:33:34):
to come up there slow. So this letter's day to
July seventh, and twenty twenty five, the first day the
letters went out effective on August the tariffs His Excellency
Cyril ram opposed the President of the Republic of South Africa.
Dear mister President, it is a great honor for me
to send you this letter in that it demonstrates the
strength and commitment of our trading relationship and the fact
that the United States of America has agreed to continue

(01:33:56):
working with South Africa despite having a significant trade deficit
with your great country. Nevertheless, we've decided to move forward
with you, but only with more balanced and fair trade. Therefore,
we invite you to participate in the extraordinary economy of
the United States, the number one market in the world
by far. We've had years to discuss our trading relationship
with South Africa have concluded that we must move away
from these long term and very persistent trade deficits engendered

(01:34:19):
by South Africa's tariff and non tariff policies and trade barriers.
Ouch our relationship has been unfortunately far from reciprocal. Starting
on August first, we will charge South Africa tariff of
only thirty percent on any and all of South African
products set into the United States, separate from all sectoral tariffs.
Goods transship to evade higher tariff will be subject to

(01:34:40):
that higher tariff. Please understand that thirty percent number is
far less than what is needed to eliminate the trade
deficit dispaary do we have with your country. As you're aware,
there will be no tariff if South Africa or companies
within your country decide to build or manufacture a product
within the United States, and in fact, we will do
it everything possible to get approvals quickly, professionally, and routinely.

(01:35:03):
In other words, in a matter of weeks. If for
any reason you decide to raise your tariffs, then whatever
the number you choose to raise them by will be
added to the thirty percent that we charge. Please understand
that these tariffs are necessary to correct the many years
of South Africas tariff and non tariff policies and trade
barriers causing these unsustainable trade deficits against the United States.
This deficit is a major threat to our economy and

(01:35:24):
indeed our national security. We look forward to working with
you as your trading partner for many years to come.
If you wish to open you're here too for closed
trading markets the United States and eliminate your tariff. For
non tariff policies and trade barriers, we will perhaps consider
an adjustment to this letter. These tariffs may be modified
upward or downward, depending on our relationship with your country.

(01:35:44):
You will never be disappointed with the United States America.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. With best wishes,
I am sincerely Donald John Trump, Press the United States
of America. Oh oh good Oh my goodness. That's it's
entertaining and and bloody at the same time. I mean,
that's left a sucking chess wound in the countries that

(01:36:04):
have gotten those letters. And they've gone out to all
sorts of countries from Kazakhs stand to South Africa to
Japan to South Korea. Wow, and they came out like crazy,
so interesting stuff crazy times.

Speaker 6 (01:36:17):
Trump gave a delay.

Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
He issued the letters basically a final threat to these
countries who had a ninety day period to negotiating, and
they failed, and he made it for August first, and
so the leftist meeder like the BBC, Trump blinked. Trump
didn't blink. Scott Assent approached him and said, Sir, I
need more time. We're on the verge of closing several deals,
and if we put the tariffs in now, it's going
to scupper them. Can you give us to August first?
Trump said yeah, sure, So he didn't blink. He just

(01:36:39):
gave them a little more time for our negotiators to
close a few more deals, which are supposed to announced
here in the next few days.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
Some of them, sometimes media doesn't realize when they make
these insinuations it blows up in their face.

Speaker 5 (01:36:51):
Well that's because most of them aren't real journalists. They're
just lazy hacks.

Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
They're just desperate to get Trump any way they can,
and they think they've got them. So what's this, somebody says, John,
Colonel John doesn't know you were resurrected back from the
dead recently.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
What were you are?

Speaker 5 (01:37:06):
A no? No. So you know, look, I'm not claiming
I'm famous or well known or a celebrity. That's certainly
not the case. But I can tell you that, Uh,
there is a habit of people on the Internet who
have malicious intent to make memes about famous people or
sort of famous people that they've died in traffic accent

(01:37:29):
or something like that to try to hoodwink people into
donating money and things like that. I've become well known
enough that there's a meme that I died in a
traffic accident in South Africa. So that's what he's talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
And not realizing that everybody that follows you in South
Africa knows you're in the United States and that can
possib true.

Speaker 5 (01:37:46):
Yeah, well, never mind the fact that I'm live seven
days a week on my program.

Speaker 6 (01:37:50):
That's pretty easy to refute it. I mean, ask me
a question. I mean, I couldn't be AI. That'd be
backs headroom level AI.

Speaker 5 (01:37:57):
But you know it's it's look, it's so so I
made a song using artificial intelligence about the colonel. You know,
they tried to take me out, but they were wrong anyway,
So it's the song has been pretty popular, and I call.

Speaker 6 (01:38:11):
It this is Radio Afterlife.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
That they try to take me out but they were wrong.

Speaker 6 (01:38:21):
No, No, that's not it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
But you was gonna be what was that song? Oh,
I got hot.

Speaker 5 (01:38:27):
I was gonna go to work but then I got high.
Yeah that's Afroman. That's not the song. Yeah, but I
get where you're coming from. Why you say that, Yeah,
it sounds a little bit like that. No, but mine
was what do we call that? Hang on a second here,
I'm trying to find it. It's uh, I do so
many of these songs now with artificial intelligence that I
have to go back into my library. Out of the
page here, Colonel Chris lives on it's a rap song.

Speaker 6 (01:38:51):
Yeah, no, we had a little fun with that.

Speaker 5 (01:38:52):
H No, it's people do this to try to scam
people out of money and things like that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:56):
So yeah, yeah, we see that in our group and
stuff on Facebook. You get this famous actor died and
you look it up and know they're still live and
kicking and do them. Well, yeah, that's the first thing
I do anytime I see stuff like that. At first
I start ignoring it, but then I'll go look it
up if I'm curious there's something I'm interested in.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
But yeah, you're right, that's what it is. They're just
trying to get it's clickbait or.

Speaker 5 (01:39:18):
Yeah, it's a clickbait, or it's a scam to try
to hoodwink or put some malware on your device, something
like that. So yeah, it's it's it's pretty prevalent but
I mean, they don't do that to total nobodies. I
mean why would I mean, if you're a nobody, why
would they make that nobody know anything about it. But
there's been since I hit one hundred thousand subscribers on
my YouTube channel, which is just one of the many
places I appear. But since I hit one hundred thousand,

(01:39:39):
I've not only had that happen recently, by the way,
it happened in the past two but it just kind
of didn't go anywhere. Now it's got a life of it,
so people are shocked to find out that I'm still breathing.
So that's happened since one hundred thousand, and then every
day I get all these unsolicited requests to sign up
for this service. We can make your channel do this
and here, we want to do advertising, this, that and
the other, and mostly I just ign or that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, they are.

Speaker 4 (01:40:05):
A while back, could go they were swatting a lot
of influencers on say X and stuff like that. You
don't conservative influencers.

Speaker 5 (01:40:12):
Yeah, well we saw the pool quite a bit. What's
up Tim Poole had happened to They swatted him several times,
three times in one week once.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
Yeah, it wasn't just Taylor Green.

Speaker 6 (01:40:22):
No, no, oh no no.

Speaker 5 (01:40:23):
People began to question whether Tim Poole was doing it
himself because it happened so frequently. I don't think he was,
but that's what people are saying.

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
So, yeah, to promote your cell phone.

Speaker 5 (01:40:32):
Well that'll be a way to go.

Speaker 6 (01:40:33):
Also go to jail.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
Yeah yeah, don't get called doing that, be doing that
in the first place.

Speaker 5 (01:40:39):
Well, I mean think about it. You know, you call,
you call the police out to something like that. In
the meantime, there's a there's a gang shooting in East
Philadelphia and there's no cops a respond to it.

Speaker 6 (01:40:48):
So three people are dead, nine wounded.

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
Did you see that video for Philadelphia fourth July weekend?
These idiots they all point out firearms in this neighborhood
and it's you know, yeah, and people keep telling this
country and firearms, Well, it's a particular subset of culture
that behaves this way. And I'll leave it at that.
Take a look at what happened in Philadelphia that that
was okay, corral sort of stuff, indiscriminate, just wildfire in
the streets. There was a kid there on a kid,

(01:41:11):
a young man twenty four, He was paralyzed in a
gangl in shooting. He was shot in the back and
paralyzed and wheelchair bound at the age of seventeen. He
was twenty four over the weekend. He was in his
wheelchair on the street and I couldn't see clear that
was going on because there was a ring doorbell camera
that was showing the shooting. But he was across the
street and I thought somebody was stealing a tire, because
that's still something around. What it was is this twenty

(01:41:33):
four year old kid trying to get out of line
of fire. He was shot multiple times in the back.
How to pray do you have to be to murder
someone in a wheelchair who can't escape? It's just and
shoot him in the back? What cowardice?

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
No, they don't care. They shooting them back don't mean
nothing to them.

Speaker 5 (01:41:49):
You're right, You're right. There's a segment of society that
they have no value for life, and as unfortunately you
find that in many countries, we certainly have it here
in America.

Speaker 6 (01:41:56):
That's for darn short.

Speaker 4 (01:42:00):
Babolo was talking about how do you, Pablo, how did
you get that race thing? Out of what he was saying,
I didn't get.

Speaker 5 (01:42:04):
That because I said it's a certain subset of cultures
what I said, So he derived race from that, which
was not implied, it was not applied.

Speaker 6 (01:42:13):
Now he's driving race.

Speaker 5 (01:42:14):
But since he wants to get on the topic, you know,
we'll just talk about that because I know where he's
going with that. It goes back to the whole point
about why some may black men are incarcerated.

Speaker 6 (01:42:22):
Well, because so many black men commit violent crimes. That's why.

Speaker 5 (01:42:26):
And they're disproportionately represented amongst our prison population. Is they're
disproportionally represented amongst.

Speaker 6 (01:42:31):
The criminal population.

Speaker 5 (01:42:32):
That doesn't mean black people are evil or that it's
something sendemic to black folks. It just means that they're
an awful lot of people who are in the circumstances
who happen to be black, and they commit majority of
these crimes, certainly far outweighing their population percentage, and their
current place is like Philadelphia, Atlanta, and Chicago for most part.
I mean, you don't see many mass shootings in rural Appalachia, and.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
You hit it right there.

Speaker 4 (01:42:55):
I don't think it's much as much as one race
commits more crimes than another race.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
It's more of where they're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
If you're gonna be an inner city population, you know,
and high populated aaries and stuff and stand like a
sore thumb, then yeah, you're going You're going to jail.
You're gonna get caught. The cops know who you are.

Speaker 7 (01:43:12):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
That's why a lot of people moved to rural areas
because it was harder for cops to do investigations on them.
So I think a lot of it has to do
with demographics and stuff like that. You know, like that
Saint Louis thing. You know, some young guy who's black
of skin attacks a white officer in the middle of
the street because a white officers tell them there's a curfew.
You're not supposed to be out here right now. But
the guy just committed a crime against the store clerk.

(01:43:34):
What was his kid's name, and the kid went after
his gone and the scuffled. The cops shot and killed him.
Cause riots and stuff there in Saint Louis. I can't
think of the kid's name.

Speaker 7 (01:43:43):
But.

Speaker 5 (01:43:45):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know off hand who that was.

Speaker 6 (01:43:47):
But is it that that what's stop Brown?

Speaker 5 (01:43:49):
Was it Brown?

Speaker 6 (01:43:53):
The hands up? Michael Brown or whatever?

Speaker 5 (01:43:55):
Something like that?

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
Yeah, yeah, I think that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
Was Now people act stupidate around law enforcement. They end up,
you know, causing chaos and get themselves killed. You know,
that doesn't mean there aren't corrupt cops or dangerous cops,
but most of these situations are avoidable. People simply follow direction.
You know. I was watching the other night, I was
watching Jesse Stone again and a hip man got pulled over.
He's got a rifle in the back he wants to
use some murder Jesse's Stone and Jesse Stone doesn't know

(01:44:19):
the rifles in the back of the car. But the
guy's follow him, so he gets tired him and he
whips around, puts on the lights, whoo, pulls him over,
comes up and asks for licensed registration. And the hit
man isn't stupid. He knows he's in a situation where
if he does something wrong, he's gonna get shot. So
he says, officer, may I go in the glove box
to get my registration? You may, So there you go.
So that's you know, not get it obstinate and bligerate

(01:44:40):
with the police, which is what happens for a lot
of people who are not raised properly by two parent
families and have no respect for authority, and they lip
off and they do something stupid or you know, you know,
they pull a firearm and they get shot, and then
the cops get blamed for it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
No, I'm telling you, I wouldn't want to be a
law enforcement officer. Now they have to go there where
they get treated for it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want to be a cop.
I'm a praise them.

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
I applaud them for what they do, and I appreciate
fright they're doing it.

Speaker 7 (01:45:04):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:45:04):
I don't always agree with everything cops do, but for
the most part, ninety nine point nine percent of them
were doing damn good job.

Speaker 5 (01:45:11):
Yeah, and ninety nine point nine percent of leftists are
doing a bad job. Yeah. That's not hard to figure
that one out. That's a pretty easy math there. Yeah.
So the uh, the tariffs, A lot of people are
starting to call them sanctions.

Speaker 6 (01:45:25):
They're not sanctions. You want sanctions.

Speaker 5 (01:45:27):
We can give you sanctions. We can embargo your ecotomy,
we can we can band America companies from do a
business there.

Speaker 6 (01:45:32):
We can we can remove you from the swift bankings
excuse me, banking system.

Speaker 5 (01:45:35):
We eat all kinds of things you want, you want sanctions.
Sanctions are are available. These are simply tariffs, and a
tariff is not a sanction anyway. It's just a way
to level the playing field, which some people don't agree with,
but they're going to have to have conversation. Interesting today, John,
five African countries, four in West Africa, one in Central Africa,
West Central Africa went to the White House and had

(01:45:56):
lunch with President Trump. And they all were polite and
respectful and one of us little bit, you know, sucking
up to teacher a little bit too much.

Speaker 6 (01:46:02):
But the rest we're just stated their cases.

Speaker 5 (01:46:04):
Said hey, you know, congratulations on your term and being
back in office and your deal your broker to finally
get peace after thirty years in Rwanda and in the
Eastern DRC and Middle East and YadA YadA, and look
we have something offer. We're a small country, but in
US is the big boy on the block. But we've
got things of value and we want to be trade
partners who want to work with you and want to
get investment in our country.

Speaker 6 (01:46:25):
And I'm like, this is what leaders do. This is
what they did.

Speaker 5 (01:46:28):
What they did behind the cameras, you know, behind the
closed door. Who knows, But in the public instead of
the nonsense we saw when President Roma Post from South
Africa came to the US back in May.

Speaker 6 (01:46:35):
That was embarrassing of the highest order. That was something else.

Speaker 5 (01:46:38):
You got a guy who showed up thirty minutes late.
He made the President of the United States wait thirty
minutes while he dithered and came to the White House
at noon instead of eleven thirty. Unbelievable, pissing off Trump
from the get go. And then he goes in and
a set up question. One of the South African journalists
ask a question of Trump, and Ron Post is, oh, no, no, no,
I'll take this. I'll take this, interrupts his host, the

(01:47:01):
President Unized States in the Oval Office, and then answers,
and the way he answers, he starts lecturing Trump. One
of the viewers just most segments of comment at Trump
lecturing people. Trump didn't lecture or anybody. He was lectured
to by a South African president who had no ground
to stand on.

Speaker 6 (01:47:15):
And this saw that.

Speaker 5 (01:47:15):
President acting as if he's on equal footing with President
Ied States. I'm sorry to break it to you there,
mister Ron Posa, You're not an equal footing. You're not
equal footing. There are very few people on equal footing
with Donald Trump. Shijiping might be one of them, and
the list shrinks from there. So anyway, it's uh, look,
the world is getting a dose of reality with Donald
Trump in office, and it's high time that the nonsense

(01:47:37):
has been allowed to be perpetuated for the last forty
years is exposed.

Speaker 3 (01:47:43):
Yeah, no, you're right.

Speaker 4 (01:47:44):
Yeah, that was problem made the statement of byt lectures
saying that he should go towards economic deals and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:47:50):
And that's exactly what Trump he's doing.

Speaker 5 (01:47:52):
He's a ending aid and quick giving people fish and
teaching them how to fish. He's working trade deals with
African countries. That's exactly what today's lunch was all about.
It was all about that. In fact, that the guy
sucking up to him was from Senegal, and he's like,
I know that you're a great golfer and you know,
and maybe you want to build a golf course in
Senegal and we're setting aside forty hectares of land for

(01:48:13):
a digital city. We'd like you to invest in that.
Bring your tech companies, you know. I mean, he's sucking
up the teacher, but hey, you know what it might
work for him who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
Right, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:48:22):
But this is what Trump did in South America during
his first term, as he went down there and he
was telling him, says, yeah, we'd love to do business
with you, but see, you stop making your row. Your
criminal problems are our problems to deal with the United States.
We're not going to do anything with you. And he
had them people cleaning up their streets.

Speaker 7 (01:48:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:48:39):
No, it's a look, you know, you know, it's the
thing is John, I've talked about this before. I'm pretty
sure on this program. I know, I talk about my
purga frequently. I've lived all over the world, and particularly
in Europe and Africa and also in the Middle East.

Speaker 6 (01:48:49):
But in Africa oftentimes, you know, I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:48:52):
Walking around in uniform as a soldier and people are
kind of shy and what's wrong, Well, I don't like soldiers.
Why Well, because they exploit people and they rape and
they murder us. And those aren't soldiers, those are thugs
in uniform. And then I run into these pie and
the sky leftists in Africa, but especially in America and Europe.

Speaker 6 (01:49:08):
Oh, no, police, defund the police.

Speaker 5 (01:49:10):
No police have social workers. You know, we don't need militaries,
do you live in the same dimension that we live in,
I mean the nature of human beings. There will always
be somebody who takes event. There will always be pitos,
There always be thiefs, there always be rapists, there always
be murders. There will always be somebody a certain segment
of population psychopaths too, who have no compunction against doing
these things to their fellow human beings. You cannot have

(01:49:33):
a society based on social workers. You must have a deterrence.
If you have a deterrence, then you reduce that sort
of human behavior which is abhorrent, to the lowest reasonable
level possible. And that's the best you can hope for.
But these people live to the fantasy world. They think
that that evil people will just be better if you
just give them things.

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
These same people, Chris, want to take away your right
to defend yourself. They want to take.

Speaker 5 (01:49:54):
Away from well, good luck with that. I mean, I've
got more. I've got more firearms in the Pennsylvania National Guard.

Speaker 4 (01:49:59):
I think I'm here to tell you the biggest deterrent
is an armed household. You know, nobody wants to break
into a house where you've got weapons and will defend yourself.
Nobody wants to break into a house where you've got.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
A car dog.

Speaker 5 (01:50:10):
What's the one thing that every school shooting in North
America has had in commons since uh Dylan Clay free zone.
They're all gun free zones except for the murders. They
have guns, no one else does, and that's why they're
able to kill so many people.

Speaker 3 (01:50:22):
And that's what's problem Magua.

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
But going back to your point, Yes, if you're going
to live into a state of anarchy where you don't
have a real rule of law or mechanism to enforce
the rule of law, what you've got is an unfair
and unjust world, because really the world's not fair, nor
is it just, nor does it care about your personal safety.

Speaker 3 (01:50:39):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
Animals, right now, we're eating other animals alive while we're
talking on the shew this one fish.

Speaker 6 (01:50:44):
Eats, another fish eats another fish.

Speaker 5 (01:50:46):
Lions and leopards and cheetahs are hanging around rating the
pounce or chase down their meal. Life is a competition,
and people need to realize that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:53):
In a civilized society, and people that have the greatest
advantage of the ones that are criminals because they don't
follow the rule of law exactly and an uncivilized society
where we have no rule while you're gonna have the
biggest of predators.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
People are not going to survive that kind of world.

Speaker 5 (01:51:08):
And if you don't have a deterrent, a legitimate deterrent,
that just encourages more people to behave in that way,
some who would never behave that way because they can
get away with it.

Speaker 6 (01:51:17):
And that's just the reality.

Speaker 5 (01:51:18):
And that's the world we're living right now, and that
needs to be addressed very quickly. Hopefully we're looking into
people like Komy and Brennan. We'll get some people nervous
and people started banging along instead of trashing our Starbucks
and trashing our McDonald's and attacking our federal judges and
Supreme Court justices and members of the Senate and Republican
softball games and things like that.

Speaker 6 (01:51:39):
A deterrence is what's needed here. As we wrap up
this show for tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
Absolutely yeah, we're just down to a last well there
it is right there, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
That that then concludes our show for tonight. We hope
you got something out of it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:52):
As always, keep us in WSM, men, or turn Chas
White on his channel or TIBM, have a.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
Good week, and uh be good, can't You will be
good at it and go home.

Speaker 7 (01:52:19):
H m hm