Entitled Killer Realizes He Can’t Just Shoot Anyone l Interrogation

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to your top true crime hob for the variety
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Didn't seemed like a damn criminal over here, and I'm
not happy, but I'm apologized for that.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
It took me a second to get here. I saw
you had it in the corner that say you had
in that corner. No, no, how I did sell you
if you waited for me to talk to her. I
saw you. I took to get this over all, right,
what M just some dust? No, no, I don't even
worry about it, just up the dust.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
So don't talk or going somewhere else. So I'm not
the primary accuse. Again, I'm just curiousisting.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I just got in.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
The reason I didn't come in initially right away because
I wanted to find out exactly who's going on first
before I talked.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I shouldn't have been in customle way over here, But
I know, I know, I know, I don't. No, it's
it's it's ten officers discretion, and that's how well not
as apparly are when you were transporting people, they have
to be that's just an issue. Once there in the back,
they have to be in handcuffs. I walked in this
building multiple times to get reports. I've never taken here

(01:09):
with handcuffs. We were transporting people. You've been talking with
detectives before here, Not one time I give any with us. Okay,
this is the first time ever.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
Giving talking detectives with cuss. Okay, I know I'm not
a criminal. To me, I was fend someone in my life.
That's why we're here. I shouldn't be treated like COmON.
I'm very very about that.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
And I can see it. I can see that you're
that's the one we want to pissed off. No, that's understandable.
Other than that an issue that happened. We can square
that way. That's a simple issue someone in my life,
and I have the right to protect myself. Bottom line.
That can get some water please, Yeah, of course it's
safe you fall the water. I just want to make
sure you hit your cuffs off and you're cool. You
don't need a bathroom or anything. I might be. Yeah,
I'll just need to calm down. I get it, man,

(01:55):
just because I know it's gonna be a couple of hours.
You guys want to watch me on account, you'll watch me sleep.
If fall asleep. Terry showed me on the policy in
many highs on. You don't go into going to where
we need to go. Yeah, if you guys want to
ask me questions of chas, if you're gonna holmee me here,
if you're gonna arrest me, let's not get on with it.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Like I said, however, you guys want to plan to
do what you want to do, let's get it done with.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Of course, my pal the quire of my friends.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
So let me we get you water, let me get
everything squared away, let me get a contact with the
primary case sigent I figure out exactly how I wants
us to proceed from here.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Okay, appreciate you. Appreciate you man, Thank you for your patience. Oh,
give me a retirement. That's that's a pre chary measure
you gets you that way? What's that? Help me in

(02:47):
mind the door? Mess you when you're in unfamiliar territory,
get you in.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Sorry, took me in a minute to get that. I
just had to talk to the primary case stagents. He's
actually gonna be on the way. He shortly a chat.
It's gonna be hours ago. Come on now, I hope not.
But either way, it's wanted to give you updates that
I've talked to the K agent, so we're just waiting
for him. We'll wait for this water and after that

(03:11):
what happens, Uh, depending on how you know. I don't
know everything. That's gonna be the case agents. You'ld you
Thames Investigations. He's one of two things in the bar.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
I could care less, but one of the two things
that's gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
Let's be honest, Well, I'm doing if you're not dealing,
what the normal did that you guys deal with?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
I'm not some criminal, no, and I'm not trying to
keep down here right now on one of the two things.
Oh so here's the man again.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
See if I was, if I was in your petitioner,
go home, I'm gonna charge it.

Speaker 7 (03:42):
It sounds like those are the two things straight up,
And you're not straight up already.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
You already cant of work around. This is very simple.
You guys will make it more than when it is. Well,
they really are complicated. We are not complicated. It's not complicated.
What's complicated about it? Do you tell me what.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
You're Well, we have to do a very complete, thorough
investigation before it made any decision.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I can't just walk in here and tell you either
this is happening or this time. No, guys, you guys
are running rapid and as far as your detectives go,
and my family's with this, do you guys brought it
all the time. You guys don't know what the hell
you're doing. And I'm saying you, but it's true. A
lot of people miss things. It is what it is
a lot of times. It's not some big elaborate freaking
YouTube story or Netflix special. So do you know what

(04:23):
I mean? It's not it's not a ship. It's very
what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
So even with good given that opinion, it's even more
so important to be very careful and cautious.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
And also, I don't want to know why am I
sitting here?

Speaker 7 (04:35):
And if I'm going to be sitting for an extent
amount of time, I'm gonna ask you to us her superior.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
You charge me and put me in jail, or you
release me because I should not be here. Okay, So
as it stands right now, again, I don't have all
the information. Am I charged.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
As a stand right now, we had an internet ocurd
this morning as son as I's almost deceased, it's correct, yes,
So we have to do a full and thorough investigation.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
We have to complete these interviews. Find what you gotta do.
I understand, I'm you're not being charged, but you are
being de changed and charge. We're one's deceased. That's not
a charge.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Someone's deceased right now that we're speaking, but probably about
ten people just dead.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
That's not my fault. No, I'm not even there. I'm
here talking to you and I'm not being charged. So
I can walk out here free and will and charge
me with something of the investigation. I just want to
be charged with something. Then that's all I meskin. If
you're gonna do your job, do your job correct. If
I'm not, then I should be able to walk out. No,
you can't walk out. And is Manny here are you

(05:35):
on a chaff? They should be here in this billets
they work in this billy. I don't know if they're
here today. Let's call your sheriff, Manny, and see if
we can hold me here. That's not okay, And I
could hear you, guys, I know walk and I can.
You can feed me ship soup all day long. I'm
just might straight to the point of bless. No, I
can see that about Jack. I'm not trying to be
a dick with you. No, I'm very professional. I'll be

(05:56):
just as professionals you want to be. But start tap
dancing and bullshitting me. I know. No, it's not tempt
you bullshit. It's again, I'm not trying to feature a
lot of the bullshit. I'm trying to be straight up
with you. I'm not.

Speaker 7 (06:07):
I'm telling you legally my rights. You guys are viotolating them.
Either charge me or tell me what I'm beaning detained for.
You can only detain me a certain amount.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Of time, not hours. We both know that.

Speaker 7 (06:19):
So I've already been detained well over an hour. None
of you have asked me one question. Okay, nowne you
have any charges on me? So I want you to
call your superior. You here, say let them go, or
come ask me the question you need to or charge me.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Let's get it over because I want to talk to
your superior. How long will that take?

Speaker 7 (06:38):
I'm sure I've been saying all right, that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
No, I know, and I can tell that you're you're upset,
You're pissed off.

Speaker 8 (06:45):
I'm not pissed off. I just don't want to be yes, okay,
And I'm not trying to be assumed. I'm sorry, I'm
coming off that way. That's just the way I talks.
I'll try to work on it. No, no, no, but
it's fine. You show me as good as your superiors.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Brother, You've got a ton of certain way. That's not
your fault.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
All I need to do is he either charge me
or release me.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Because if you don't know why you're detaining me because
someone died, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
You know that is come on you that'umil you mom.
You're detaining me because someone dies you and which that's fine.
I called you guys, so he's not you.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
But I call the reason. I'm not one to call it.
And I told them what happened, tell them that that
you would happened. And then the two officers on seeing
her included not want to ask the question what happened.

Speaker 7 (07:29):
I got put in crusts and I'm talking to you
here's still yet to be charged, still yet to be questioned.
So if you don't have a charge, I should be
able to walk out here. If I walk out of
here forcefully, then I get a charge attacking an officer
which is ridiculous. But you guys are violating by rights. No,
you definitely are. You're already in charge. Just to take
form now, I'll pass along your concerns. No, they're not concerns.

(07:52):
Those are those are facts. Okay, they're not concerns, sir,
those are facts.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Are you charging me? Who's charging me? Right? That's gonna
be the technical. Where's mister te his way down here?
Gathering into right the way down here? He's already en route,
you know that for sure. Yes, I just got off
the phone with ten okay, And I know I'm going
a little route to dinner. Believe it, my paily all
the time. But that's just the way I'm okay. I
guess I'm not trying to be just when you start

(08:17):
going around, I know when you're going around, I'm not
that okay, Okay, I appreciate your patience, man, Sorry, be
right there.

Speaker 9 (08:36):
I'll try to.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
See be able there.

Speaker 10 (08:39):
At your water.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Are you doing all right?

Speaker 11 (08:48):
So?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I need so what's wrong with you? D that's I'm
just a good contract number, bree brn on two? Where's
my cell phone up on? Too? They told me you

(09:12):
were gonna have it zero five?

Speaker 12 (09:16):
Yeah, I just haven't taken anything from you guys ever,
take customer anything.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Let's she told them you come to see, you're gonna
bring my phone after exactly what she's told me.

Speaker 12 (09:22):
So now you're telling me someone else has it the
thing that wus names to different story.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
I don't think, Hey, I'm just going by, Hey, you
guys are getting your information.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm getting like sure, uh so so you know what right? Right?
That's what it gets. Good that happened earlier this morning.

Speaker 12 (09:37):
So because of value, it's some I'm asking some questions.
The recrecud really into the investigation and tack up visiting.
She run down to her substation here, So I'm gonna revise.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
You for ranking warnings. Okay, do you know what does?
What am I being detained for? First of the investigation
of what happened is moory, I'm being detained for an investigation?
Howms an investigation to be detained? How can you detain
someone for an edecation? Pretty much? Long time? I haven't
paid these probably twelve hours, so we could you could
stand here for twelve hours, but nothing being said. If

(10:07):
I wanted the attorney, you could keep you here for
fowl hors and decide if you wanted the charger basically,
so that's why I wanted to be your Worst's why
I don't wanna no play kind of start here. Here
we go. So you do have the right for an
aid because you're not gonna play a statement. No I try.
I don't wanted to take it, so I definitely would
wait for a way. Then, no problem. I appreciate it.
I did try that fun. He then didn't wanna talk
to me unseen and then did your share office tell

(10:39):
me any question? We'll not. I need a piss.

Speaker 10 (10:45):
Oh no, surcus year, hold on, hold on, Oh what
are you doing?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Man, I'm taking a piss?

Speaker 7 (11:02):
No, you're not here, I am, he says, ridiculous, dude,
it's been ten minutes.

Speaker 13 (11:09):
How no you heard me?

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'm not normal. You treat me like one dude coming
everybody told you I restroom.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
Asshold bless, it's a big old cup of piss because

(11:51):
you're idiots, ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Treating people and humane protect themselves. Treat me like.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
These are assholes, dude, straight assholes.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
M I least I feel a lot better. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
Mmmat in the corner, I Pete and the couple like
I told you guys they needed to I could go
throw them.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
You sure, Okay, it's it is what it is.

Speaker 11 (12:41):
It's to deal with, not to go ahead and turn around.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
What's going on them? Right now?

Speaker 11 (12:50):
I don't want you to get lunch that and then
actual repeat.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
So we're just gonna wait. No, what's going about right now?

Speaker 4 (12:59):
We're just sitting in here.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, I'm I getting charged, is what I'm saying. Where
are we going somewhere? Some I finally getting there.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yes, okay, you're probably getting done, but you have to
sit tight to take it us to go do some
more paperwork.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
And the meantime, we all decided to sit tight and
be patient.

Speaker 11 (13:24):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
So we're cuss because I needed the restroom. That's why
I'm getting put back because I need to understand what's
going on. Okay, can you do what you want?

Speaker 11 (13:33):
You were way more upset than when I tore upset now,
which you know.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
I said I need the restroom and you don't treat
me like animal and not multiple times.

Speaker 13 (13:43):
So here's the.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Last time. Here's my office is right there, and I'm
not you heard you have been patting on the door.
I would have heard you. I heard you heard me. No,
I didn't. I think I'm doing I'm doing other stuff. Man,
there's you know you ain't our boots.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
I didn't hear you know you know ilerinated in my
cup Like I told you, guys that wild as a
respectable human being with daisy, So have a seat you
like animals and.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Charge you are in my cuss because you're being charged.
So have a seat with what with homicide? Have a
seat with the wrong general.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
Well, when the paperwork's done with the jem that will
have that want to be there with you, guys. That's
not the sorry, I'm sorry. This isn't your choice. It
is if you'resting me, lieutenant, take me up. So you
are under arrest. You're being held here when the paperwork
is done, the things that have to be done, so
that your rights are violated. That our papers, my rights

(14:37):
and if you meet them, fine, but please have a seat.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Hang out.

Speaker 7 (14:41):
You're out anywhere you are under you are under arrest.
Are you sure sitting here because we have paperwork to do?
If my magic is not like TV, it takes a
long time to get stuff done.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Sometimes it don't it does many times you see that
it doesn't take that long that you're doing it. You're
not doing to do this. You are not my utilities.
I have ten thousand other things going on. You are
not my ugalien. The only reason I mean you're dealing
with you is because of the way you open your
door when I'm telling you need to your beaton ass.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
Well, you just watched the restroom fifteen minutes ago. I
needed it again. You get when you come follow me
like okay a person. No, we're following you because you're
behind you. You weren't in headcuffs, and you keep going
from I'm super cool, I'm super tough, I'm super cool time, dude,
you don't get out.

Speaker 13 (15:28):
Like a piece of ship.

Speaker 14 (15:29):
I want more than you know that's watching you say
more than five minutes and we are right there. You
heard me, we are You haven't and you I have
to tell you, I'm gonna use questions in this cup
on your camera just for him to come.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
That's the only time you guys did it.

Speaker 7 (15:44):
You stay in hair cuffs, so you're watching her for
no reason. Dude, when someone needs a restroom, they need it,
That's all I'm telling you. And I didn't derogation makes
it up something like this Okay, I'm getting charged school
to jail.

Speaker 11 (16:02):
Okay, when someone gets charged with battery on a household,
members don't come in here, and it's very quick.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Is very quick.

Speaker 11 (16:10):
Right now, we have one detective writing for a lot
of ones for your phone.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Charged, and no one wanted to hear nothing. Well, know
what I first, initially I asked you, and I was
going to tell you everything, and and.

Speaker 11 (16:24):
I would wait for detectives.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
And then I told your sergeant, I'll tell you everything
what you will tell me.

Speaker 11 (16:29):
Well, we have to wait for detectives.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
Where ye, no, I would have set everything. I'm not scared.
Now I'm gonna tell my lawyer and now I gotta
go to jail, get bonded out. All that bs to
go to court for someone that tried to sit there.
I mean, you guys are treating me like a criminal.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
This ain't right, dude. It's not just because when my
little brother ain't right. You guys.

Speaker 11 (16:55):
Told you that you had to wait for detectives to
tell them.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
You told me that he was gonna bring my phone.
He came in here, didn't bring my phone, so I
was alive there. No, he said he to come bring
it in and then he wanted to ask some questions.
I said, where's my phone? The deputy said he was
gonna bring it.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
He said, you know, so it's about you. So you said,
I'm not an idiot. It's not your way. All I
said is I needed I don't want to my way.

Speaker 9 (17:19):
I sat here.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
I needed to piss bad. I was like, I was
hosking my leads and I tried to fall asleep. So
I didn't think about it.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
It just happened.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
I had to peep and he and your tarry to
get you going not and you heard me because I
banged on it just so you.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Could arn me. You can say no all you want.
You can play ignorant. That's fine, dude. Ignorance is bliss.
You cannot say that.

Speaker 11 (17:39):
The detective didn't come in here to read right.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
No, he didn't read my rights.

Speaker 11 (17:44):
Yes he did.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I didn't hear my right to be read, and he
read and asked you.

Speaker 9 (17:49):
You wanted to se.

Speaker 11 (17:52):
You didn't tell him your side of the story.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
You guys did not want to hear it.

Speaker 11 (17:56):
He wanted to hear it.

Speaker 9 (17:59):
Here here you can.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
See what I mean. Okay, we can play this riding
around game. All I want to do give be bonded out,
then we'll go to court. I don't have my day
in court, correct, no happen. No, I have my day
in court.

Speaker 13 (18:16):
That's all I want.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
H You guys have a bunch of idiots.

Speaker 15 (18:25):
Well over here, Well, I mean, we're gonna have to
go through the emotions regardless. I know I protected myself
and I know I'm not gone, and then get treated
like this.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
That's why you mean. You guys cheat like I don't
want that was embarrassed. That's embarrassing. Say you got the
loud because I was embarrassed. I shouldn't have to peanut.
I just protected myself from my family, dude, and now
I'm getting charged not yet, you guys said, I am.
There's on paper, but I'm not going to jail. You
guys are still and I know and I'm not trying
to be mean that you don't understand my morning. This

(19:06):
is my morning here, this is your work, my life.
It's a ship. There's a ship morning. There's a ship morning.
So when I needed a pee and I told you
I got a pee, but like I wasn't and I'm not.
I know you guys do it all day long. I
know they are because they're assholes sometimes. I'm not a
career criminal. I just needed a piss in the cup.
I didn't thet I didn't be in the cutter. Okay,

(19:27):
so you gotta understand too. But I turned away from
the camera so you didn't even have to see my jump.
That's why I went in the corner. Okay, just so
you know, and just so you know on our side,
I'm not being a dick either. No, you have it.
We have it. We have phone calls to me because
this isn't like we try to explain earlier. This isn't
your typical battery you're punching, so we have to go
consult me.

Speaker 12 (19:48):
Is like a person that protects themselves is treated like
I am. And it's just because of who my family is.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
And we're not asking about that's not what's going on,
because like I said, I don't even know your brothers.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
It's been trying to embarrass you. Dude. It's if you
don't that's cool. You're probably wanted to do that. No one, Okay,
you're one of the very few. Okay, well, I don't
make connections because unless you're you know, No, I think
that's why this guy was there. I don't know. I
don't know this gentleman. He bet in my life and
I'm not supposed to should the death not that's all

(20:20):
I'm saying. It's just I shouldn't get treated like this.
And then your empty comes in there. He got to
do right when you first took me off and I
wanted to do his tea, I was like literally trying
to hold it. If you were watching, you should have
watched that. That's all I needn't do, was p bro
And now thank you for letting me ship because it
was a the money. I hadn't done none of that.
I just draw my wife off that word to keep
these kids. And I came home and this happened, and

(20:40):
now you know, I just I like straightforward this. I
don't like to be We're gonna sit here and wait
just to take me to General.

Speaker 9 (20:46):
Take me to General, dude.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, if it was up to me, and then I
could get a hold of my law and handle my
business for my protection, because you guys, right now, my
best interest isn't in your money. What it is is
we're taking into General, which is trying to figure out
the paperwork. That's what you guys are doing. And I'm
help like this, and I'm not a criminal because I
didn't do anything wrong. I called and told them exactly
what I did, and I was gonna be one hundred
percent with those Both officers like that. They didn't want

(21:08):
to hear it. I don't know what else to do.

Speaker 7 (21:10):
I'm trying to cooperate as much as I can. I
don't need to be treated like this. I shouldn't be
in cuss I'm not. I didn't tear up anything over here.
I didn't attack you, guys. I got pissed because it
was embarrassing and pissing the cup.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
No I got.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
And I can see where you're coming from, but I
want you to take a second and understand where I'm
coming from.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Top to take these off and if I'm going to
jail anyway and put them back on, I'm gonna go
find your second set. So it's better, because now we're
at this point.

Speaker 9 (21:38):
I can't go back.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
You don't have to go back. I want to.

Speaker 9 (21:43):
Know what I want to do.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
I want to make sure that you take care of it.
You're not hurt, so I'm gonna get your second set.
I want to be like this. I don't like what
it was before. I like this. This is better. No,
remember when I first told you, I don't like that.
I don't be I'm not that fan. When I know
people that I see saying you seem like a Soliday.
I'm trying to be. You can put your cab on.
You're here prepared now because you know how. I know

(22:05):
what I'm talking about, all right, to just protect my family.
I'm getting beata and I'm not trying to treat you
like plonel. It's just and yeah there's the follow you
know what I mean policy, But leave me no change.
Come in the morning, you know. Okay, So let me
get your second set of cops. Appreciate you, and we
can we can move forward just like this. Okay, I
appreciate you. I'm just waiting a goal. That's just whatever
we got here, let's get it going. Bro, it's up
to me. We go right now so you can get
out and do what you need to do. But if

(22:27):
I walk up there right now, they're gonna say, get
the holiday out.

Speaker 6 (22:30):
Of the way away ready, And I didn't know what
they're doing. They've gotta get sarch warrant and just just
again it. They gotta get your information. You guys are
gotta try to pin a murder. I mean you No,
I didn't say I didn't murder. This guy protected myself
when I shot him.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Man, and he's dead. You guys got your camera. Stop that,
so let me go get to your hand up and
did you get you a little more comfortable? Okay, thank you? Shit, sorry,
I'll get you no, no, no, no, all right, there's

(23:04):
field lesson. We're gonna fix that wall and we're gonna
take off one of your cuffs. I can go on
the other one. Son, get you turn it around or yeah,
i'd probably.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
Be better if I turned it around, said, I'm pretty
sure it'll probably be better.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
I don't know, it will be better, not yours. Let's
stretch you shoulder once I get the step, but we
don't have to get a little bit of relief for set.
Did you get that? Pop? No? I miss it? Man? Ah, yeah,
they're gonna take me in charge and they do it.

(23:38):
You still know what they're charging? Was that they still
see that they're gonna charge me?

Speaker 11 (23:41):
Then?

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah, So it's it's uh, like I said, we're just
waiting on that warrant to come back signing.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Everything where the VA is the judge and we'll move
forward from there.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Okay, as far as particulars go, I don't have anything
for you because I'm not handling that part.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
So what do you mean war want for my arrest?

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Because how do they do that in their protection on it?
Do you know? Like how does that work? How can
they sit there and say if I'm protecting my life,
why am I being charged? I just don't. I don't
understand that normal.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Policy before we talk about that, and it's how comfortable
it'd be, like okay, pulling.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
The walcket by the way, you don't sit on it
and send it up. Don't do the same probities. They
don't hop care anything what all this one? This one? Okay, okay,
the shoulders and you can do about that so I
can brace you haven't life? Yeah, so I don't understand that.
That don't make any sense. You guys are better charge.

(24:40):
So as far as I charge me, I mean I'm
a victim here.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
So as far as that goes to the investigation stuff
to be completed, And why would you charge someone before
because there's different there's different levels of holicide, so there's everything.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
There's everything up the first degree and all the way
they und justified.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
There's there's different levels at the time, we have to
do the investigation before you can determine what exactly what
level it is. Either way, it still has to be charged.
You still have to go Okay, so it's still process we.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
Have to write for this is I'm just asking, like
just Layman's like if it wasn't even mean talking to
you to say some John Dale comes in or John
Jane Smith, don't matter who it is, take it.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Taking the gentleman charge.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Every time, everybody, every time we deal with this situation
like this is a serious situation.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Very freak then and someone died. So once, once we're
done with this process, you can go and talk to
your lawyer.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
And then you can between you and your lawyer determined
whether or not you want to go forward and meet
with the Tactive book Us again and talk.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
With him about this. No, what I'm saying is I'm
getting charged, So someone has to write that paper and
saying I'm charging him based on this, Yes, what facts,
That's what I'm saying. How am I getting promptly charged
right now? Okay, So that's that's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Okay, And like I said, every time an instant like
this occurs to me, you have to do the investigation.
If someone's getting charged and we have to do the
same exact process with them. It's not it's not like
we do on you know, I hate things. It's not
like TV because that's what a lot of people reference
because I.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Don't know why they do that. I got a phonology degree,
so I know the way the process works. You know
yours work, guy, You knew exactly how this works.

Speaker 16 (26:20):
Other thinking about it is I'm I'm gonna get charged
for some This is I just need to run my
head around it because my initial everything is initial, My
initial meeting with you, initial meaning of the officers, initial
meeting with the textis everything I ever tain and that's big.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
That's key. I haven't held at any back in that once.
No one wanted to listen. You guys are well, not
you in general, but everyone else is playing circles around me.
They want to charge me. I don't understand how victim
gets charged. I get that. Let's get that done and
I can start. We'll get through you, well, we'll get
through that. Definates. Normally don't handle interviews for for this

(26:57):
sort of incidence. They just don't. It's one of the
cases that no one gets cussed or like how I've
been treated? Doesn't everyone get treated? The get treated when
someone's being charged and taken for a formal when every
here the main system.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
Yes, So now we're still on the sisive word, and
I know he's saying I'm gonna be charged.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
None of the paperwork still needs to be done. Paper,
it's not done. We're waiting for a judge. Yes, we're
not being charged yet. Yes, you're being charged the paper.
Think about it this way.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Whenever someone gets pulled over and the POB cause has
been established in terms that someone is driving under influence.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Of alcohol, it's not to touch on them. You're under arrest.
You have the retromen you know.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Yeah, the moment, the moment's cuffs callies is you're und arrest.
The right direct That's that's where you're at right now
in this process. You're you're you're under arrest. You're not
being detained. You're being charged.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
However, just like I explained in the DWI, Incent that
it's not distantant.

Speaker 10 (27:54):
But the I thing they got worse.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
But you guys have got to prove it.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
So so whoever's charging me is gonna be the stake
one of the county. You have to prove that I
killed someone, which I didn't sit there and say a
gentleman didn't die.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Now I didn't kill him. I protected myself and that
it happens. And again, so I just want to let
you know, just because you invote your rights. Yeah no,
I'm not nothing on record, so it's we know it's filmed.
But I'm just telling you, I don't think everyone's been
treated like this. This is on you. I think I'm
being targeted and I know i am because someone came
threatened my life.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
What happened happened, and I'm being treated like a criminal.
Now you guys are charging me to the homicidal. I'm
not going on why I'm still in the interrogation room.
Why because people that are back up the paperwork again,
we're going we're starting on the background to give you
acting the moment goes on.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
The guys underrest, but the paperwork isn't done instantaneously. They
still talking about this substision. They still have to do
filled ups already and it is probably.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Probably did his And again I'm not I'm not trying
to get the intricacies and doing give I'm just telling you,
I'm trying to give you a similar suit like I know,
I'm trying to give you a hypothetical season.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
See exactly, we're at the process. You're an arrest, but
the paperwork isn't done well. You're going forward, Yeah, I know,
because the.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Judge has to read it, sign off to make sure
it's legit, make sure that this officer is doing this
dods exact. I said, I know this, but I don't
know why I'm going.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
To treat like a frimeral. If I get charge that,
get put the customer, that's go. I'm sitting there because
you guys are a decisives, not your flight. It's not
your fault. You're here. You are here. Yeah, you're getting
an indaate, that's what you are. I understand that.

Speaker 7 (29:26):
The thing about this is, though, I don't see how
if I'm laying there dead right now and I'm getting
the body back pulled over.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Me, then I'm I'm a victim. Don't makes sense to
be in the perfect world, no one will be in
body there, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
So that's not what I'm saying, and you know what
I'm going does not dance on it because you're a
man too, and we live on as long as getting crazy.
But it's getting that, dude. I'm in fear of my
life every day and the day you don't know that.
You don't live my life, none of you op.

Speaker 7 (29:52):
So when you see me and you in your past
judgment before you know me and treat me like a dog,
that's not right.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
So again I'm not passing judgment. No, I'm just saying
I'm not telling you. I'm in general. We're talking in
general meaning mo, Yeah, I'm no that I don't know you.
I can't hold you.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
I don't know you. That's nothing wrong with me other
than you need to do your job freshly and accurately
into the rock and that's what we're trying to do.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
And that's all I ask you. Know. I'm not being
I'm not being under I know because that's embarrassing. Dude.
I needed to pits and I was holding but I'm
I'm down a few my pants and I'm not.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
No, I get it.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
I don't want you to have a couple of years
you guys right, Ay, I'm like dude, I'm knocked, I
bang on my door. No, I get man, like it
just ebing and I don't want to embarrass you. That's
all right, No, it is what it is. I know
what to place, you know what the place. We're not
sitting there trying to But if you're gonna get your.

Speaker 7 (30:45):
Ship together, not you, I'm saying talking general, I just
get it wrong so I can get in touch with
my goers and.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Get my ball on. Because if even in the Charming Stone,
that didn't happen the way you guys are saying it,
that's wrong. That's all I'm saying. I should be able
to protect myself. Just because I'm breathing doesn't mean that
I'm the bad guy. No, No, I didn't say you're
a bad guy. You know it doesn't it really don't.
You guys don't live my life. These guys try to
come at me every day. Dude, you don't know that.
It sucks. That's scary.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
And now I'm gonna be gone, and what's gonna happen
in my family? You're gonna be there? Is that officer
gonna be there? No one's gonna be there to protect
my family, dude, nobody, No one's there. It's just me,
my bottom and a master's to protect him. So I
know ship like this, if I remember gone that these
the dogs can protect my house and my girl.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
You guys don't get it, dude. You guys don't you know?
And I don't need compassion that, I don't need nothing,
none of that ship. So if I'm gonna try to
take my life and I'm gonna get punished for now,
I gotta spend million, thousands of dollars to protect my
innocer for someone trying to be I could be. You
could have someone because you have that. Guys sitting here
different life around people like why did he come over there?

(31:52):
Why did he You know what I mean? He wouldn't
tell you why you went you want over there? There's
something to be. I don't know this galman. I didn't
know him. Why did he stop back, follow me up
and come and say he's gonna kill me? I don't
understand this. I say this.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
If you guys put shoes exactly as he was standing
right now, he would be sitting in the same exact chair.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
He'd be telling you a story that you know, I
killed this guy.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
I'm saying literally same exact situations. If he was you,
if you wanted him, we'd be doing the same exact thing.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Okay, I don't know, but I know what's going on.
I know what's going on. I'm sitting here while people
are trying to play catch him. You could ask me
the question. I don't wanted to tell you, and I
would have. I would have told that sergeant told him.

Speaker 11 (32:33):
I told this guy.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
I check their times. I'm not trying to hold anything,
but I don't want to get either.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
I don't rather go, yeah, I didn't do anything wrong,
and you know being and my family's in there, I
don't he hates me.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
I'm telling you your internal affairs detective. He keeps me
now he works for affairs. Those guys do not like
me in my time. I'm just telling you you might
not know him, but no, I'm trying to figure out
exactly what you're saying. I don't know all particulars.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
I just I'm not gonna get a fair affair shaken,
but I don't expect to. This is what I expected
to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I did everything correctly, but they're not gonna should have
And then this is what I'm doing. I'm treated like.
I can assure you that it would be the same
exact scenario. If it was anybody else. Okay, I know,
I know it's gonna nothing I can say, why do
you believe that? No, No, I understand. I appreciate you

(33:30):
just talking to me.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yet I don't want to chat with you like this
because this, I like this, this is cool.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
The other the way we started, I didn't like it.
We got off on the wrong foot. We did that
was cool. Do you taste targeting or nice? And don't
go around the bush with me? Because I cut to
you again this thing get.

Speaker 9 (33:44):
Around you know?

Speaker 3 (33:45):
So then you were cool about it after that? Yeah?

Speaker 11 (33:47):
No?

Speaker 3 (33:47):
And then like I said, man, I'm not trying to
beat around the bush. I'm not trying to hide anything
or spread anything. It's just the way I talk. Man,
I'm a chatty Campian already got so some people about
the ship out to some people and some people who
don't bunch. So I can tell you're a straight forward guy,
and you know you don't like to talk. You want
me to tell you exactly what's going on, right when
I don't Everyone like that. Everyone likes No, one likes done, don't. Yeah,

(34:08):
done doesn't scare me. Done done in my house will
scare me. You guys don't scare me.

Speaker 7 (34:12):
You guys scared me because you'll take me away from
protecting my family because you will not.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Be there to do it. That's facts, dude. You're not
going to be there to protect my family, none of you,
not one of you. What happens then, I hate that.
I hate that you feel that way. It's not what happens. Then,
would protect your family because someone took you away from it?
I don't want want you to to. As a men
standing in front of me, no one else, not a

(34:36):
detective matter, no, I would you do? Not with me?
What would you do? Take it that it's a ship situation.
I wouldn't want you to protect your family. Would you
want to be taken away from your family? Everyone who
has a right to defend themselves. That's the that's in
the constitution, and that's all I did, all of my right.
I serve my country the best of my ability. I

(34:58):
try my best. My kids do their best, right dad,
and good kids, And look at me for protecting my family.
This is what America's going to do. And you guys
look at me, regardless of what I say, you still
think I'm a criminal. You're grubbed up the LT came
out pumped up because I want a fist. I mean,
I don't know why I'm getting that treatment. I can
tell you that it's just because we have to have
two people.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
And we go through and do this whenever we take
some little bathroom, I always have to have two people
when we deal with any way.

Speaker 7 (35:22):
We like when you when you, when I saw your
new face, you put your I put my hand out
and then you should the same thing.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
But I get that from me, see what I'm saying.
So yeah, I'm like, why did you blink you?

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:35):
No, I get you in. But it's sweet. It's weird
once you start looking at things, it's weird. Man. No,
it's a weird situation to be in.

Speaker 7 (35:42):
And it's not it's very weird because you protect yourself
from now you're sitting here.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
You guys are looking at it person.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
And it's hard not to feel that way, even though
it's not necessarily on my side of things, that's not
what's going on.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
But it's hard not to feel that way in your seat. Oh,
it's not feeling, it's what's happening, you know. It's it's
a fact. I'm in cups. It's sitting in interrogation room.
I'm not a jail yet. You know why, because you
guys want to charge me something. But you have to
get the facts and then that judge you have to
stand those facts. This is what happened. This is what
we got. We spoke to this person, that person, can
you sign this office and want to put them a

(36:14):
jail charge? And why don't I kid this? You might
name this who I am? Okay, that's it, and then
I don't fifty thousand dollars for oh ye iver MutS
they want and you go to court to what for?
To defend yourself and that's that's what courts for. It's
not like I find on the on line.

Speaker 7 (36:33):
To find our country, for us to be free, for
you to do that job that you do right now,
we do that one percent of Americans to do that.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I don't know if you've served or not. I'm not
sure you might have, you might not not. Most people
that are in your position not proud like me, and
we take that very I don't know, and I can
see that you're really proud of it. No I didn't, sir.
I'd gotten this at the young age and this is
this is my.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
And then when you're down and there's anyone that's wanting
to step up the plate and do like you said
with the one joiners, it's much appreciated, and it's we
couldn't operate his country as the way we do without that.
That's when I'm saying a huge sacrifice.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
But what sucks when he get slapped in the face
the way to protect. You can't protect your family, but
I can. I can protect this country. This to my government,
you guys are part of my government's harder and that's
who you.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
You too, You paid for our tax dollars, our government
that satify because that's how you treat us without doing
the due diligence.

Speaker 7 (37:23):
You know, I was more than happy to say what
happened and I could statter home getting that detective.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Both of them are there. They would rather talk to
anyone else first. Why it's dry everything I didn't I
can't think things.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
No, No, it's not you.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
I'm talking to you. You listen. I'm not a criminated
I'm not worried about criminating this that what happened happened.

Speaker 7 (37:45):
I didn't say it then that once it happened, some
affected my life. What am I supposed to do what
am I supposed to do.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
That? See what you're saying, Man, No, I just don't know.
You tell me I was trained to do one thing
to protect times What you do you protect? Is there
an answer? Sir? What do you do when someone's straightening
your life? You have to follow the law, you have
to protect them. And what do you do as a
man when you're putting a split seconds you there's a
lot of your officers that are growing. None of the

(38:18):
officers cut here get caught after they shoot someone. Not
one of them there done gets taken away. They get
put on administrative lead. That's how it's investigated.

Speaker 7 (38:25):
They don't kill someone and then they have a team
to go a fight from the don't even gotta worry
about it like I do.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Do you get what I'm saying? So when you are
as a man, because you you do clock out, we
all like, how are civilian? JOBIC is a job that
allows you to carry a side arm and you know,
probably a shot then who knows, I don't know why
to come? Then they get here getting out because detectives
and whatnot. What when you clock out, you still have
your side arm. Now you are not no more clocked in,

(38:52):
But someone tiends your life and they say they're gonna
kill you when they go to their car for a weapon.
What do you do? What are you? We're just talking
in general. No, I get you. It's hard to talk
in general like this. It's not really for these scenarios.
Should Yes, yes, they're very different, and you're taught to
side that I am situational awareness. You have split seconds

(39:13):
to decide what to do or die. Ye right, that's
the thing you have when you're in that moment, in
that situation, the moment you're in, and there's when you're
trained to who I am. That's what you do.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
You have to you have to make that assessment, just
like you said, make that decision and a split second,
and that's where you're at.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Every every situation is.

Speaker 7 (39:29):
Unique and we can figure and talk about this is
there's just crazy. I mean, there's some situations where you.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Know someone killed someone, right m.

Speaker 7 (39:37):
You see this person, you're like, yeah, this day, this children.
You could tell it was just immersing and someone did
it out of anger. You can tell different things.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
You know what I'm saying. So someone was to kill
someone they really wanted to.

Speaker 7 (39:49):
You probably see multiple gunshot ones as far as ten twenty,
someone wanted to kill kick on.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
It's some crazy shit. When you're trained, they're trained to
mutual rise of threat and that's it. Then it's done.
And that's all I did. Ventual license, right, But you
said branch army, infantry, army eight years? Eight years.

Speaker 13 (40:13):
It's a long time.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
So if they did infantry, I did the guard here,
and I did the reserves here eight years? Did I
did a different ce? Oh? Really? Here was that long
time ago? How long a long time? I'm not an

(40:37):
old timer, but I've been around it two thousand and six,
a little bit before men, so that that was quite
a while ago.

Speaker 12 (40:47):
And I knew obviously I'm gonna be on to like
I was like one of college guys, and they're gonna
charged me from murder.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
I already know that, dude. But I'm like, let's play
in this game. You can't protect yourself as a matter,
just can't. And that's your copy. Now, it's the truth.
If you've got to witnessing problems, and then I'm not against.

Speaker 11 (41:09):
It.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
I'm against bad leadership because you're only as good as
your leadership, and you really are. When you taught a
certain thing to do and you.

Speaker 13 (41:19):
Know normally it's wrong, but you're still doing it.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
That makes you just doesn'tett it, but you still continue
doing it. A lot of you people in here to
do that, you probably wouldness it on the day.

Speaker 9 (41:30):
I ain't gonna tell you that.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
But to do the right thing and protect yourself and
be charged as a criminals ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (41:37):
Sorry, this government hire me use my weapon against other people,
right and get charged once, just like your police officers
to protect this country.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
So's I wont to use your weapon to protect this country,
it's okay, But to use it to protect yourself, your body,
your property, and your family, it's not man every So
that's a simple question. It's not as simple as where
you think it's that.

Speaker 17 (42:06):
We're very we're oversimplifying it because for me to say, yea,
every situation it's okay to do this exact thing, it's not.

Speaker 11 (42:14):
No.

Speaker 7 (42:14):
No, situational awareness is completely different, and every situation is
one hundred percent different. Now when you do a warning shot,
right to someone, what's a warning shot attended.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
For me, Johnny, we don't. We don't do warning shots.
Thanks for saying that. Thanks, you can't. You guys should
know because it's like I said, every.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
Situation is who does know? But give gives you you
know you really are, you definitely are. So you've got
to know what you're doing, you know what I mean?
It smells awareness, very simple. You don't know nds, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
So the thing about it is you do a warning
shot and you're able to assess that person and there
either if they're scared, they're attacking, or they just they're
doing they might be undrugged and she was in sane.
So that warning shot lets you determin things are gonna see.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Right now where we're talking through all these variables that
you were talking about earlier, touch every situation.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
It's different to every No. It is to protect you
and your person. It's a very simple one. Affect yourself
in the appropriate way. So I'm telling you you have
your side with it. Appreciate thank you.

Speaker 9 (43:25):
For it's not as sure, it's not the news you
want to hear, but that's.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Where we're at. No more. I'll let you know. Okay, Well,
what's that? So we're just waiting for paperwork on on
who on the Detective of the Judge Jake.

Speaker 17 (43:44):
And grow up a spacework and now it has to
go through the process to get time. So the paperwork
is written, but now has to be signed up to
be fay good to go, So the judge is gonna
look deamimate it.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Give it to the judge. I'll say, we'll take a
read through it, figure out what to do from there.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Man, don't make sure it's uh, it's all in there
the way it's supposed to be, and all the boss
check the way it's supposed to be, and then they'll
say yes or no.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
If it's yes, then we're on an NBC. It's no.
A heast comes off, I go home right if the
jet says no, says yeah, you can't, we can't restaurant.
It is still a case though, because it's still because
I definitely want to go to I mean, I like
my brain's going on, and that's I'm just trying to
get my I don't know who this guy is, and

(44:33):
it's very scary. I know you guys don't think it is,
but it is. It is not. This is not nothing
to do with I don't know whose guys, never seen
them before all my life. How does you know me?
I mean, it's ridiculous, it's not for nothing. It's not nothing.
I agree with you.

Speaker 13 (44:47):
There I don't know what this guy is.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
I don't know what he is. I mean, I just
want to make sure my fact. I antally have my
phone and call my wife, make sure he's okay.

Speaker 6 (44:56):
You you have a contact back if you do, just
let her if she's okay and let me know and
they let me know when she's ok there. If you
can do that, that'd be prt for me. Please take
do I know what what I don't stop. There's nothing
you can do or I can.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Do intelligence that's something or ProAb we move this along.
But I just I'm pretty that's my family right now. No,
and anything we can do to kind of carr like
you know she's okay, let her all'm right and if
you can do that, that'd be fine. Thank you guy.
You good anything else? Just get moving, brother, I'm trying.
Man gets nay. Take me and you were here together.

(45:30):
I can only control what we can. No. No, it's good. No,
it's good. Can you get another fucking water and you
give me a sip of water and.

Speaker 7 (45:36):
Don't come Let me see what I think what I
can use GiB if you can't, it's cool.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Yeah, let me do what I can do because I
took the last battle from the office. Thank you good. Yeah,
I know, I know, not good, but it is what
it is. Brother. You don't know because I don't know
if they're going over there. I don't know who this
time was right, and I can't contact no wonder since

(46:02):
you are at home. Well, I'm gonna show you right
now that there's still people out there in front of
your home as soon as they need them. You know,
hopefully there's still going because they have to call out
your tie and map up and they have to do
all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
So there's still someone that We're not just gone. I
know that, but I just don't want to do you know, no, no,
I can't hear you, man, So hopefully it's not too
much longer. I can't give you a timeframe, but we're moving.
We're taking steps, okay, I just yeah, I mean, but
I do appreciate your pation and I appreciate you being.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Cool with us. I just want to get over get small,
appreciate your special money.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
The okay, two things we're able to get ahold of
God and they talked to her. I was on the top,
but I know she talked to her, and learning know
what's going on.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
So yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
She she made sure that you're okay, and she made
sure she was okay. So that's been taken care of.
Second thing, you've been cool with me the last a
little while that you've had the cuffs on. You haven't
had any other issues, not it anywhere.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
But that's why the cuss went on, because the way
you were behaving and then the peeing, and I get it.
We've talked about it and we're if we can be
chill like this the rest of the time, uncomfortable letting
you out of the cups were I'm okay with that.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Chill just treat me like a human being. Noe like this.
I'm going to take them off, but we're like that,
they're going back home, you know what I mean. Not
a criminal. Yeah, I don't want one. I'm not criminal.
So if you're cool with that, and you don't acknowledge,
it's not going to be an issue that I'm I'm
okay with letting you out of the cuffs. It wasn't.

Speaker 18 (47:34):
I just kind of remember sitting there anymore. I haven't
had my morning glory, no, I can. First p was armed,
but I was in a little free throw with the lieutenants,
so they didn't come out all the way. But that's
if I needed it, And I'm like, dude, I need them.
I'm gonna peenis covers off and I ain't not a
stomach thicker.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, we're not. We're not stressing now. Like I said,
we're past it.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
If you can be chill like this like you've been,
I have no issues with you sitting here in handcuffs,
and it might make the time pass a little bit
easier because I know.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
It's not comfortable, but I know, I know it's not
your fault. You just hear prop during this whole d.

Speaker 13 (48:06):
That's just a weird thing.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
And I was just trying to talk to you, like
I don't know you. I was just trying to talk
to you man. And man's let's say off record, you know,
like for someone that I don't understand, how im I
just don't understand that. Yeah, you know you don't. I
just don't understand this process. Someone comes to the attack,
you've never been playing across and treated like a criminal.
Say the first time I've had someone check yeah, no,

(48:29):
this has never happened. I mean, no one died, So
I get that part, you know, Trust is giving me
some missions acting up. Yeah, you want have been one
more if you can, Yeah, if you can, just let
me see what's going on. But uh, I might need
to get different see yeah, because it seemed like it

(48:51):
sinched in there.

Speaker 7 (48:52):
Yeah, it finched in a little bit. So and then
that he's gonna be hard on locked man, do your
favorites the type?

Speaker 3 (48:57):
If do you want? Do you want to take this
one off and trying to help put on my hand
and try to work it without it being on this end,
because this one'll be easier and you might be able
to get that unlocked, you know for the aagle instead
of twisting knife. Yeah, I don't want to twist twist
my mind. I'm saying, take this one off or put
this on my hand, and then you can maneuver this one.
You know, I got you. I just have to make
sure that one.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
Remember that one on your head, because like I said,
if you're gonna be cool, there's nothing how to leave
on you.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
You know what I mean. I've been cool from jennalf
and I was just as a situation. I didn't expect either,
So I'm just saying be human. I'm a human. I
didn't expect for me to go, drop my woman off,
come back and someone back in my life. And it
wasn't going to die either.

Speaker 12 (49:40):
I'm ten, I'm the kids, and no one needs to die.

Speaker 11 (49:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
It might be this key giving an issue. That's probably
I can put this bag on you just yeah, just
a tag from my ain't going do I want to
go somewhere? You know you still got water in there?

Speaker 19 (50:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Top it up because I just want to make sure
you act. I just want to make sure he's well.
Who was waiting on a judge or but just waiting
on those last final bullshit? I mean, this is a tick.
I mean I don't know, but that's what we're waiting
on from when we're getting closer. I know it doesn't
are they figuring out what charges to put on there

(50:33):
to make it legit? That says our games like, No,
that's not the case. All that's are you being written
and it's are you ready to go? And it just
has to go through the approval process. So that's that's
all we're waiting now, that's just for them.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
To I off and says and the taper it says
it's you're charging mister Joseph's all the sport.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Oh sorry, I've been getting going up by stamp uncles
whole day and oh is that so much? Yeah, it's
hard to stort out. But simon, what's notes? Period? But yeah,
so that that the restaurant once it's there, Well, how
does it read? So it will read the you have
to face and then has all the charges on it.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
And then obviously the affidator behind the details the incident
happened today, who's appre dated.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
The appidat, who's appidated? Oh, have to get that and
write it? Yeahs not a guy, call me. It's going
to be detectives after data. Yes, yes, it's the the
detectives affidated that he wrote. So that so he so
then did he initially for August? And all that will
be available to you. That I'm just trying to figure

(51:43):
out because he had to ask someone. You can't make
the story up without probably one person that's still a
lie that knows.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
What happened, and no one wanted to hear it, right,
he had to. He had to put his investigation together
and him, Yeah, to do they have their process. They
have a process they have to do, you know.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
So that's that's what I want. I want to like,
and the.

Speaker 7 (52:06):
Reason why I'm asking is because I know initially it
was a sergeant unseen supervisor, and then there was a
troubled deputies.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Like the little girl. You know, that's why are they
not allowed to.

Speaker 20 (52:17):
Ask any questions? So typically, like normally I don't know. Yeah, no,
it's it's different from every wherever, right, just like you
had your personal preference, my personal preference.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
But I mean it's it is what it is. But yeah,
but yeah, and into it just like this. Typically the
deputies won't get into it and start asking all these
these questions. That's the role of the detective. I told
them exactly what happened, though, Yeah, it happened, That's what
I asked them a channel.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
So yeah, okay, so it's just step in there and
then we stopped to go through this process and the
detective starts to talk to you here if.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Typically this is where this takes place, yeah, I know.
But after the detective you do what you do and
then they leave. We're still waiting for stuff, doesn't It's
just crazy? Do I wait? Tell? Are they doing it
just to to punish me? Wait till the fall dollar?
Because it's what it seems like. I didn't say the
Internet didn't happen. It did happen. I never once said
it didn't happen. No goot care in the room and

(53:23):
everyone's playing ketchup when all they had to do was
listen to me. Yeah, I know, I don't need a lie.
I don't.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
I don't even think up in the room. I can
see your frustration with all of it, and I can
assure you none.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Of this is cut it. And we're not doing any
of this to what it seems like to you know,
I know what the Waterdale we got over and all
that works, everything get from start. I didn't ask for
this this morning, dude, No, No one asked for no.
Of course not.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
And again it's not I just want to let's if
we're gonna, if you're gonna charge with whatever whatever the
detectives when they charge went, please do it so we
can move on.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
That's all I'm asking and then I can get a
hold of mind. I'm stuck here.

Speaker 12 (53:56):
You guys are treating me like some I fought for
this country, union units or ice and I'm getting treated
in this box.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
And you've been awesome due like other than that real issue.
But that did not indeed I'd be in the dam
Cup as a large ship. But I just let's get
it over with. If you guys are still trying to
find facts out, you can't hold someone if you don't
want to charge them, and if a judge hasn't signed
off on it, you still can't hold them. That's we've
made it to the DA, which is probably Grace and
the greer who got a hold of it, one of
the two because they hate me. I don't tell, I

(54:26):
don't know, I don't know who it is. Don't be flat.
But they're still in the same place. But now it
goes to a judge, just one one understanding and they
have to sign off on this.

Speaker 7 (54:34):
Weren't saying okay, let's arrest and the rest weren't there
not you know, let's go find this game?

Speaker 3 (54:39):
You know? Yeah it sis. The rest weren't for set charges.

Speaker 7 (54:42):
Now listen, you guys have your affter Davids, you have
the charges that you want to charge me with, but
none of you have the facts.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
There was only two people there, and the person that
was there and has the truth that is talking to you,
and you guys didn't want to listen. I even told
the hosters there's video right there at Selles house. I'm
telling you what happened. Why don't you ask him? You've
gotta go bump all my neighbors. There's one video that's
right there point Blake advantage. I'm sure you guys already
got it.

Speaker 7 (55:09):
And I've been with you all this so I don't
know all the details in the particulars, but that's what
I'm saying. I know, I'm given a twelve what time,
I way now two thirty three somewheah, around three, about
three o'clock.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Yeah, no, are not about eight three more hours. I'll
be here twelve hours, so.

Speaker 17 (55:24):
Then you'll have to let me out and I and
I'm gonna say both, you sharing your frustrations because I've
been here with you just as long as you have.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
And I know, don't give you wrong. I'm not apology.
You have to do a lot of money. But no, no, no,
And don't get me wrong.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
I'm not saying like, oh, it's so hard, because obviously
me and you are very different circumstances.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
You're in here and I'm not here, so it's I know,
but my concern me, my concern what happens to me.
I'm not concerned Yeah, I'm really not you. Like I
told you before, you just don't understand this of any
of it. None. You do what I've been calling. You're
not sheriffs, don't. Yeah, I have called you guys multiple times.

(56:02):
Look at it. Look for these guys where I just
have two days ago in Mexican, Like there's me, I
know you and your brother you go, I get every
damn day and these guys are just contemplating things to
do to me on the daily. And now that I'm
not there and they know I'm not. You guys will

(56:23):
see I kid you not. But I'm just telling you
so when you see you in the news, you know
that you already talked to the person face to face
because you would be morley.

Speaker 7 (56:32):
We still have to be straight and sounding inside, morally sound.
So when I tell someone and I talk to the
man and another woman, I'm trying to get to humanity
because you know.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
What that's what this is. Dude, bro, and I get you.
I'm I'll put you in that situation. I don't walk
part of me. Dude, you just you weren't. You're not
in my situation. No, you are. None of us are.

Speaker 7 (56:58):
Get you like a criminal is ridiculous and how many
charts let's then take me to general please don't tell me.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
In this and made me feel like ating worse an
already do, dude, And that's not our attention. That's not
what we're trying to do. We say pushing the pitchwork
and we're trying to get it done. It's once out
of our hand.

Speaker 12 (57:13):
I just don't understand how many people defended themselves or
someone ended up shot and disease and they ended up
being jipped for it.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
That's crazy to me, bro, I don't understand it. In
order for me to be honest, I'd have to be dead.
It's not it's not right. It's not that it's not right.
Maybe gonna happen. I'm telling you no, two five, three
seconds a little more and me not reacting. I could
have been dead. And he and you have talked about

(57:42):
this today. Yeah, no, no, no, I don't me. We've
had this dialog. Me and you were cool. We don't
I'm cool.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
You've been cool with me, and that's that's why we
we had her, Like you said, we had our first
nual issue.

Speaker 19 (57:54):
We have figured out jump. Yeah, we got to figure
it out. We're like this now and I'm cool with this.
I can't make the paper go any faster, and I
know it sucks, man. I that's where we're at. I'm
hoping it's not too too much longer. I'm trying to
call them.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
How the theother detconating on scene? I asked for the
LT No one listened to me. Okay, I'll done never
be correctly, and no one's listening to you. Guys are
just bombarding me with what you want to do, and
no one wants to use these from starts. So that's
where we're at. So then I'm asking you, if that's
what you want to do, and you want to treat
me like a criminal, let's go. Let's go to Joe.

(58:34):
That's all I said. You know, you said that looks good.
Do you think I'm a criminal, And let's do that.
I'll let the.

Speaker 12 (58:40):
Judge decide like we always do. Yeah, you know, I
don't know, man, I did just so it's it's undreal.
It's like you have to sit there and that's yourself
be done wrong in order to be right.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Interesting way to put it, but no, no, I see it.
It's not It's not a good position to sit in.
And I get that you know, it's hard because we
consider and sane until we live it. We don't know. No,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
I'm not saying I get what you're feeling. I'm saying
I get that I don't understand what you're going through.
That way, I'm clarified, I don't. I don't understand exactly
what you're going through because, as I said before, you're
sitting in here, and I'm not so that it would
be I'd be feeding the line of bullshit if I
sat down said, man, I get I understand exactly what
you're going through.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Have been a home invasion, If there was a home invasion,
homeowner gets this guy and then decided it was a
home invasion. He ends up that got shot by that homeowner.
Homeowner comes in the same way and gets charge of harmacation. Yes,
a homeowner gets charge of homicide.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Remember how I told you there's a there's a bad spectrum,
there's there's your your first.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Degree and all that stuff, and you get all over them.
You got justifiable homicide.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
It still has to be documented and still ask the
investigating in this manner, and it still goes through the
whole process.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
But I'm saying that homeowner doesn't get taken a jail,
it doesn't get treated. Situation. He said the right word.
It's it's a situation, and it's SU's gome to me. Right.
It wouldn't be appropriate for me to give you a
clear no, you can't. I understand that I'm not asking
for a care you can't give it me. And that's
what I know. We both know that. Yeah, all I'm

(01:00:22):
asking you is questions I could normally be when you
get home, when you and you didn't till we're gonna
have these questions. You can have the same dialect with
whoever the people you love. I'm not gonna have that dialect.
You know what I'm gonna have. I'm gonna have worry
in Miami because I don't know this thing. I don't
know who he is. I don't know who's friends are.
Do you understand me? Yeah? Why I have to? Yeah,
you go home and you're gonna talk about the situation.

(01:00:45):
I go to m DC.

Speaker 21 (01:00:46):
My wife and my my loved ones are alone. That's
what's funny with me, more than any of that funny.
Other than that, let's go, y' I don't scare if
you never has I don't know who it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Cares, but not me. It's a disgusting place. No one
should be there. It's not for anybody to be honest
with me. But if we're gonna do that, let's gol
that round because I can get out because right here
we're not doing nothing. Whether the stands still, no one
wants to choose. They could ask me, well, there's no
name of no need that you that camera mine was
not gonna tell you what was said and why had

(01:01:21):
my content? I know that he's like he's used it
before for me. I've had to call him up. Sometimes
you just don't catch it because it's motion sense. So
hopefully yeah, so it's uh, we'll go from here. I
guess right, that's all. That's all we can do. I wait,
I can't do anything for you to make it go back. No, no, no, no,

(01:01:42):
no no no. I don't talking is cool, man, I
appreciate you. No. I can just hear. Yeah, I hear
what you're saying. I can hear. I can see your concerns.
That's all I'm yes, No, like we see it. Brother,
I don't known these people like I do.

Speaker 7 (01:01:55):
None need and I don't need to normal, But I
just there's and I have a feeling I know this
guy's and I don't know him personally, but I know him.
He's probably like fame maxing that I was just talking ship.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
To me every day. So it's it's weird cause when
I did of you know, I I look at everyone.

Speaker 13 (01:02:13):
It's just the way I was tough.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
You know, you can tell, you know just by what
you're wearing, what kind of lifestyle you have. And you
look at this guy at the washing shoes on, go chains,
go over and I tell him, you need to get
to sleep, and he wouldn't. His face was so determined.
It was weird. It was just freaking I don't I
don't know when people or what people think. Oh I

(01:02:37):
know is what happens top? And how did I defend
my family, my person and my country. That's when I
was tough. You cannot teach that. You just can't. Very sure. Alright,
So a little bit more a movement, you remember, how
I Yeah, So we're gonna be taking a few things

(01:03:00):
from you today. It looks like we're gonna be taking
some fingle friends.

Speaker 11 (01:03:04):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
I don't know if you've heard of a buckle swallows
just to solve on the inside of your cheek. I'm
doing all that for he detective. This is with David,
that's part of the but I mean it's me. I'm
I'm involved. I know this is crazy to have my
DNA on a while. Can I refuse this? It's actually
a signed war, can I judge?

Speaker 22 (01:03:26):
That's just weird that you have my DNA. I prole,
I'll seeing some crazy stuff happened with dNaM, problems with
the police officers, the stephen Aams case. I'm watch that
is Wild's not here out of this state. It was
a whole different statement, and it's they have DNA and
they used it for some bullshit, the thing that got
my tea.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Yeah, that's just not the way that we're trying to
take it. This is how we have to do it.
And it's signed by a judge. So no, you can't refuse.
But because you're a bump with the police, yeah I can.
Yeah I should show it you, but.

Speaker 23 (01:03:57):
You can't sit through to show and I'll show you.
You coroporate, no corporation there. Tell you guys to get
there too. One you came to talk to me, I wouldn't.

Speaker 11 (01:04:09):
The side detective.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
So I'm there.

Speaker 11 (01:04:10):
I'm just I'm here to collect all the events.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
So that's what I was there, So that's what I'm speaking.
You would come talk to me.

Speaker 11 (01:04:16):
So just like now I'm here to collect there, I
was there to process and then get the homicide believe
homicide detective.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
That's what he didn't give me, no answers.

Speaker 11 (01:04:27):
Yeah, he's dealing with the paperwork.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Now. Oh, you guys are waiting before as it just
the side for the charges that you.

Speaker 11 (01:04:35):
That he's decided to charge you that I couldn't hire
you as far as the charges.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Like I said, i'm here that someone.

Speaker 13 (01:04:41):
Yeah, he believe that part.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
So he'll give you those Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
And he's down the road filing the paperwork and he'll
be back shortly. And I know you've been hearing that
all day, but.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Kenvi's not done yet. I'm getting charged stiously, Well, it's
good fide. Everything's been signed and he has to file
it away and that the way it's in the system.
That a way when we go down there. Remember how
I told you if we go down to not there,
that they get the hell out of here. I can't
believe they a next to night. It Graison hates me
and my family. That's why I figured, I don't know
why we're still sitting here at three thirty four o'clock.
So we're gonna sit tight on this for now. Yes,

(01:05:10):
we'll be right back in to do that. Thank you, guys.
But I just want to at least give you because
we're gonna do it down there. How only did to
give ten million cents of prince I have it on filing.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Yes, yeah there, yeah, but for the investigation today the
detective asks for those specific things the further investigation, and
it's me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
I'm there, I was, I was. This is another party
involved in it. No, I'm not denying that, not once.
That's the only time you would have to get any
kind of his mess because someone denied it. No, there
was a firearm in my hand. There's a good I
did it. I didn't say, not once that I didn't
do that. I just did it myself. I know. Again,
so we don't need that's just created I know. But
if you asked for and the judge signed it and approved,
it just don't make any sense, you know. Yeah, But yeah,

(01:05:52):
we'll be right back into take care of all this.
I just wanted to at least let you know and
get you the heads up. You know, yes, sir, thank
you again. I appreciate your visions. Just mine go. I know, man,
maybe this is this way to go work moving. Man,
We're going somewhere. Thank you. That's so such a si

(01:06:13):
wals home. Guys, you got a couple of questions.

Speaker 13 (01:06:15):
I don't any questions.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
I have questions for me. You wanted me to do
uh some a lot be asking for DNA. I'm like,
I'm I am why you need DNA? Well, I'm not
taking I'm not I wasn't part of that situation. Yeah,
do you want some DNA. But we're gonna take a
different way. So it's gonna be questioned.

Speaker 7 (01:06:29):
And as they asked my people who too, Okay, no,
so we do DNA different jun as the bubble saw.

Speaker 9 (01:06:35):
I'll be better check So fix three.

Speaker 7 (01:06:37):
That's the warrant that authorizes us to do that, signed
by judge what judge saying this Judge Bruce Fox the Fox.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
To take part of this one, I mean being submitted
by to me by Detective mister mc gill.

Speaker 13 (01:06:59):
H has reason to believe that there is now being.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Concealed on the person in the after David The evidence
described an after which has been obtained or being consaled
on a person.

Speaker 13 (01:07:10):
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
It basically the mumbo jumble legal jumble that we have
to include a warrants to say, here's what we're doing.
Here is live. So you're saying that I was asked befro,
I was asked for that. What you're saying, that's consilient.
So that's what you're telling the judge that I refused it. First,
we're not telling you refuse me. So sir, that's the
way the warrent's written. Entertainment.

Speaker 24 (01:07:33):
So this is panter template for that been able to
obtain for me for requ This is standard tempts. It
will read like that and maybe regardless a little bit
about some master because it's suing that you're telling after
you're telling the judge that I refused it, which ones
to say the spend refuse for la you Detective Miguel
Cornebog who.

Speaker 7 (01:07:53):
Was who has reason to believe that there is now
being concealed on the person. You're saying the killing stuff.

Speaker 13 (01:08:00):
I'm not killing, not that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
You. But you've told them this before you ask That's
my point, why would you do that? So right now?
Are you religious in fact? Something for the court system,
a judges authort the warrant things. This says you and me.
This is your name and my name on this part
of my name is Detucha lo O. So this is
very Another detective is.

Speaker 13 (01:08:25):
Not here, persons, So where is the thing that you take.
I'm trying to see that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
The oginue reaching and I'll tell you what we're requesting
being conciled and the shared exist.

Speaker 13 (01:08:49):
Why are you guys making this a not complicated?

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Are the these are just copies? No, there's four body
conpagers that explaining why we're doing what we're doing. So
this is your initial I'm not talking to you anymore
after this. It's gonna be this guy who's taking to
just taking this case?

Speaker 13 (01:09:04):
Or are you still in this case?

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
You already detective on this case. I'm all got just
making sure my my linees are I have stop to
my lawyer too. I'a asking these questions and of all
the gay work bets like you guys will never get
these to me an NBC. I'll get these data off
of my my lawyer.

Speaker 13 (01:09:20):
You know that you're not gonna have these time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
I'll touch into your property. I don't want NBC. You
know by facial photos.

Speaker 13 (01:09:33):
I'm using this, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
You can'cer I can and I am. You cannot. That's
my legal right. Just don't even have a case on money.
US doesn't need a case. I'm the right that dude.
I'm not I'm not gonna I'm not legal.

Speaker 13 (01:09:43):
I'm not willing. You're gonna give me any of that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
You're not happy I'm going down at NBC. You can't
because they have to. They have to give my fingers.
I serve the fact that I'm not gonna let me
do that. I'm not gonna do this.

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
You're gonna have you strip, bro, I'll strip down there
when I get to jail. So I'm I'm working with you.
I'll do my meaning to when I get to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Jim So that's not that works in order. I'm not
an animal, and you guys just keep your dude. I'm
takes him here and you're treating me like a criminal.
You're charging me, so take me down. I'm not doing that.
I'm not doing it. You have not, and so you're
refusing to follow the judges, even refusing your recommendation because

(01:10:22):
your life saying I refused it the first. You're a liar, dude. Okay,
so you're refusing, refusing your life. You choosing your life,
because if you would have asked me legit thing when
I first saw you, and you didn't. You came in,
you read me my rights and I said, I want
to layer.

Speaker 18 (01:10:37):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
You didn't come up with my phone the way that
the dosser said you were. You never did that. You
guys just been lying to me from jump. None of
you wanted the true And now you're gonna charge. You
to charge when I'm giving him. I'm not gonna get
naked for you. I'll do that at NBCNE when they
take me in an in, but you we're taking your clothing.
You're not leaving him in a white suit. And you
guys make a sketch. Go out of me.

Speaker 7 (01:10:58):
I want to lawyer here now, or I wanted to
share if you're right now, that's ridiculous. I'm not asking
for your superior I want youriff. Many Adolphs here now,
he still has two months under a share. Ask him
to come here, I know, to come down here.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Yes he will, because you're doing unjust things right now,
and uncivil things. You really are.

Speaker 7 (01:11:13):
If you're violating my rights right now, I refuse that,
and you're right. You lie to get that signed. They
don't even look like because there's no case number on it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Dude, well it's the board number that gets fought to
tell them. The warm numbers not on there, so we
can't find with how we're not doing that. You're ridiculous, dude, nothing.
You don't even come asking me what we're wrong. You
all think that you know and something. You think you're smart,
and you're not. This guy's probably has a family where
gonna go back to my house and what are you
gonna do about it? That's what's on. You call the police,
so take me and arrested to protect your family. Word,

(01:11:45):
that's what do you do? Harass me, put me in
a room for fricking eight nine hours, arrast me. Then
let's go to jail.

Speaker 7 (01:11:53):
I'll give him my finger because I ain't gonna subject. No,
I'm not your let's go to jail. Part of that
process is like I'll do that job. That's that's where
I'll do it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
I'll be wasn't happy to do that. You just don't
want to take the drive. You're being lady. You can
you can come with and.

Speaker 7 (01:12:11):
Get anything that you want because they have to do
it anyway, So get your stuff right now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
I'm not going to give that to you. I'm not
stripping down until I get to NBC. So you're refusing that,
I'm not refusing to judges order here. A liar. You
lied to the job. That what's wrong? Dude, You're a liar.
You lie.

Speaker 12 (01:12:28):
Little man problems Brom'm gonna play those games.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Yes, another himself. I never James Pederson, James Fredricks. So
it's not nice. I guess it's nice. Are gonna fact? Yes,

(01:13:02):
I was talking. I know the old situation. I've been
on the seams. I'm aware you run the SA.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
I've told there's some issues with I'm not gonna do
none of you guys are gonna make me look like criminal.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Man. I'm not think to momentary right from starting. Since
you as we're in in there, I took pictures. I
called you guys out there. I told you exactly what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
On the phone.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
I told her this picture what happened. I tried to
tell your your sergeant unseen what happened. I try to
tell the deputy what happened. The detective then come talk
to me. Then you want to come read me my rights.
Then I'm getting charged. Then I'm not getting charged. What
am I getting charged for? Then he comes in reads
my rights for the second time. So then I said
I need a lawyer. I guess because you guys are
playing games with me. I think I'm gonna play games

(01:13:42):
with me. Be straight up, I'll be straight up, I'll
be proper if you're not. That's true. I'm part of
that incident. Why do we need that mess? So I'm
not saying I'm not part of that incident. I didn't
say that, So I'm not gonna do that. I'll work
use that. If you he wants that stuff, he can
get it down at nbccause they'renna give it to me again.

Speaker 7 (01:14:01):
They're gonna do it again, you know that, just like
I did and spread my cheek top, do that whole
down routine.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Why am I gonna do that here?

Speaker 6 (01:14:09):
You guys are just bullshitting making me feel like I'm
a victim, whether you guys think so or not, just
because I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Training and I'm sounding on calm and I look, however,
I love. That shouldn't be that. I'm not a victim, brother,
It's I'm a victim. This guy I don't know who
he was. He fucking threatened my life and I took
action to protect it. I stopped a threat when I'm
a criminal. Stop me there. Stop. That's fine, But I
said that to you and everyone else. Don't matter. That's

(01:14:38):
what I'm saying. I'm not. I'm not. Just remember I
remind you that you are. You decided, I'm not talking.
You didn't ask a question, Okay, I'm not questions. And
if he starts saying incriminating, not to incriminate myself. Everything's
exactly what I said, you know, undestablished, So it's everything's

(01:15:00):
there's nothing that's changed. The thing has changes. You guys
are just trying to play catch up and think, just
make some charges up for what happened, and then we
go to corner.

Speaker 7 (01:15:08):
Let everything decided. Maybe my Baba's decided, maybe you don't.
But that's this is the game we're playing, gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
So many well, no, we're not playing games. There's no
Because he lighted me twice. A couple of people did,
and that's not right. Just the straight up. So this
is what we do this routinely. You guys do a routine.
We go through this process all the time. Every day.
This is your job. Yeah, there is a job, and
so you're I'll start from the end.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
You're brought down here the matter that you were because
under circumstances, that's how we respond.

Speaker 23 (01:15:40):
Now that's just the way I look and how I
handled myself.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Who think you know? But no one treated me like
a victim. I got playing because I'm there's hands been missed,
but look at it swollen. I don't know what's happening here.
I'm not even worried about that. Dude. Then the response
for demanies.

Speaker 9 (01:15:59):
I don't know what's happening because people and we don't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Know what's going on. There's a specially offering from those places.
They show up and what they've been told is so
why didn't I I don't.

Speaker 11 (01:16:12):
Know what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
So I'm gonna take this person off to do the
car for now? Is that a required this is? Yeah?
This is just.

Speaker 13 (01:16:22):
That starts this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
It's on a launch O. Interesting. Uh So it was
that that was the standard process for how you brought down.
The way you've been illustrated here is pretty much standard process.
That's the important song of victim in all this. I'm
going to gentlemen, because you think that I did something
that I shouldn't have done. I definitely go by what

(01:16:44):
we think it is because he just lied on that
thing saying that he wait, hold on, and that's a supervisor.
This is this is viral. I know you guys room
taking this and I know how it works. But don't
sit there give a judge a piece of paper statment
that I refused something when you never asked in the
first place. That's what he did, and that's what people
assowed me. It wasn't even him that it submitted it.
It was me gil some paper refused that DNA. How

(01:17:08):
do I need d And why do I gotta get
these swamps? Why am I gonna get naked here and
get taken out in the white suit like my little
brother did? That's criminal. I'm a victim. Standard, No, it's saner.
Come on standard everyone. When he's out of here in
a white jump suit.

Speaker 11 (01:17:26):
You.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
We sent home in white jumps because that's one. Let
them have a lot of Come on. I'm not I'm
not amaking. I don't. I don't like to send a
tea pot. You know the language, like third degrees in
a bunny suit. It's one embarrassing to his cold. It's
not something that no me to the point, So don't
they say why he would as someone who was holding
or wasn't a party that I said they weren't.

Speaker 9 (01:17:48):
I did none of that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Not once have I said I'm not part of that
an incident. Your clothing is taken the week because we
don't know what may or may not be on it.
I mean what may not be on them. ND No,
we don't follow you through NBC. We don't go through
the process. They have different especials there now for COVID.
We're not going to be through the process with you.

Speaker 16 (01:18:10):
To the point you have your clothes taken off, and
we don't let evidence that once it's in our control
evidence you have all the evidence.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
You need once it's in our control. We don't get
that outside of our control. I don't take it. We're
not not going to that outside of control.

Speaker 11 (01:18:24):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
When I tell you it's evidence, what I mean is
what may and what may not be on your clothing. Okay,
a rock of the evidence is evidence in itself. What
evidence do you need? But the DNA let DNA for
the d NA clothing, He's not both of those. It's
not from your DNA. You're just trying to walk you

(01:18:51):
down here embarrassment. You guys are trying to do and
I'm not gonna do it. No, I'm not doing that.
I'll give you might close that NBC. He wasn't happening.
They put in that nice little bag and they take
me in andto my pray the same way. You guys
are trying to double process, which don't make any sense
to me. But you're not gonna make me If that
don't make sense to me, you guys are just trying
to ridly kill me and may you feel like cuminal
and that's not right. I'm getting pissed with you guys. Bullshit.

(01:19:11):
If you want to do it, do it, but I'm
not gonna win when you do it. I think that's fine.
I'm good. I don't want to do it that.

Speaker 9 (01:19:18):
I think that's where we're at.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
I think the way you're talking to me, no, I'm
not telling you I don't even the better person you are.
I'm not gonna interview. My process is our process we
do with everybody. You gotta telling me doing I've been
here send years, so don't times something we don't and
that is definens you're wearing. We're gonna need your den
at some points compared to other standards. So yes, tres
reason why that you would need it. If someone I

(01:19:40):
get what you're saying, I don't know a hundred percent
with you. I'll be back with you. Bring we're taking
off the clothes. Okay, I'm not dealing with this a
lot of what am I going to jail? As soon
as we got close you?

Speaker 9 (01:19:54):
How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
L okay, it's explain to.

Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
H m hm.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Oh, she's a dumb ass. Thank you. I appreciate you.

(01:20:33):
I know, I know it's not what you want to do. Man,
but who were you take it all off? Or do
you need photos before take them? Take them off? What
you you want yours? Thank you. I know it's much
you want to do, but I appreciate you. It's not
I appreciate you. Just get it over against that. You
can just put your.

Speaker 11 (01:20:59):
I just think I'll let you know when theature you
can put your hands up to your face like this,
you can turn to fake me, put your hands up.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
What is that about?

Speaker 10 (01:21:16):
You know what they told me?

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
They did this in romance, so they said, you know
what's because someone could say that's not your hands. I'm like,
don't make any sense. Say do you want to make
something stupid? There? Still makes no sense to me. Thank
you going to turn?

Speaker 11 (01:21:34):
Take this record, We'll just do a corner turn each time.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Guy Amy eating so many pictures. Just throw a documentation
of calling on you. Guys are just trying to keep
my thought. I thought I heard you taking turn. I'm sorry,
I just want to get out of fallow him all right.

Speaker 11 (01:21:59):
Yes, perfect, M.

Speaker 19 (01:22:05):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
M And.

Speaker 11 (01:22:11):
Are you okay with me collecting and a buffle club?
To me, it's just a slob of the inside.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Now you've listened, Now go to your thing.

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