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October 5, 2025 67 mins
The Chilling Interrogation That Made the Suspect Confess in Tears

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to your top true crime hob for the variety
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Enjoy. So Evis Thomas, all right, I'm a detective, takeli detective.
Labor won't be started or whatever reads your rights or bad.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
You gotta right the many times you say it will
be used against you the court a long.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
You got a right to talk to a lawyer and
have him or her present while you're being questioned.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
You understand that, okay?

Speaker 4 (00:41):
If you cannot afford to hire glory and what will
be a pointed to representation before any question?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
If you wish you understand that right? You can decided
anytime and exercise these rights and I answer any questions
or making a statements. With that being said, do you
understand each of these rights? Have explaining having these rights
in mind, you wish to talk? Looks okay?

Speaker 5 (01:03):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:03):
Can you still your life from TV story?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
What's your lasting?

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I don't know, I guess, but there isn't who shouldn't
be doing this? You stay a word? Mm hmm, I
stay up? Us music going on?

Speaker 7 (01:27):
Mh You know your address whatever their house is? Of
course it is interesting. Okay, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
So I used to Benny tell them to okay, can
you tell us what's the place to night?

Speaker 6 (01:49):
I don't I don't even know. Came on side shot
going on with my parents, like what's going on? What's
going you know? I don't know fucking that with you
all show up the stocking how they're fucking flash like
being flash back the fucking house and you know these
days there I got a calm downs, but they know,
give a coloside, all right? That So I'm sitting there

(02:10):
and talking to build the officers wresting the restaurant. The
last thing we had said that they see him walking
down here. You know what I'm saying, little out heard
the officers. They say, they say, were walking down You're
not a little suspect. It came called one of my
officers approached.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
You an't gonna talking to you? You outside. I was
outside on across the street and they fucked my name
talking to my parents. Who's your pinions? The people who
collecting that my name is a pass street, I want
to take care of me.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
They allowed forty two people with the dogs to Germany's okay,
being that's not your.

Speaker 8 (02:50):
Biological parents store chill rocket there right because they looked
out for you say, I understand, like the neighborhood, and.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Uh you was teaching them all right, She's very concerned
and when I say, seems very concern to.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
The point where she shows up from work rms ms,
I'm scared, but I just got kind of having the teacher.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'm not supposed to be any work. But I just
told the officer the same ship. She said, you stop time,
what a season? Brons like brothers? Gun? Okay, So I
told she saw will give her up there, so you'd
be straight with me. I'll be straight with your min
and we don't have to just go back and forth

(03:37):
about a lot of things that we don't have to.
When officers approached you, did you have a gun to
your son?

Speaker 5 (03:44):
I'm okay. What kind of done was.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Let the same? They think twenty see three three two
three three? Sorry can take nine because a three eights
it's a it's a girl having.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
Time, where it's a guy that will kind of doing
things suicide the magazine and.

Speaker 9 (04:09):
A lot of different bigger scale back. H No, right,
you know, I think it's literally still a platform.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I just can't Who was you went at the house with?

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Who was you at the house across the street, make
ninety four chess okay with sugars everything?

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Well that sure, girls, no fool around. I say, someone
just look at this just got the same kind of
go back to it.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
So you kind of look out. Three trips all kind
of share the same. You give a time to leave
the house today. I just came from say story, I
really was. I really it was the story and swishes
and I'll be able to get back from my work
so decently. And that's when that ship going on. So
my fsation is to go across the street. And when

(05:16):
that ship was going on, everybody pulled the slashing them.
That just suit it was, is there?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Okay? Oh like I literally did one year or else?

Speaker 6 (05:25):
She canna tell you I really have back gate cause
wishes just came in and burying my snatched chicks all
my bed, laid out my.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Kind of so you took it in the house obviously
when you go back to school. Yeah, so I came
back my sorry, I sat on my porch.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
Stop long, I wint rried down on her shots by
ready next story talking to them y'all pull up.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Trying the even tonsar, So what have I told you?
In between those? A bench something else? To bris. I mean,
I was waiting for you. Tell me if there was
something that took books in between you and time laps.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Good that incident when they rolled up on me, he
went to the story came back. No, I sauldn't so
my neighbors that against sat the street, which was that
uh basically, so I came from down here talking to
them he brought up to me. Because that's not fucking Krents.
And who's there? I don't know. Everybody was. Everybody was
going down there, like what the fucks dont on? Was

(06:29):
this was going on something? You know, you said that
you were talking to some neighbors, right.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
That'sn't that's what Who are the neighbors? I don't know
the neighbors or what I'm saying. You listen what I'm
saying to think. Everybody was just going down there, like
what the fuck is going on? So I'm like, my
young ones, happen if we don't know 'em. If they
ask me, okay, yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'm over here with them.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
So I could see me go back with Jimmy and
then and then that's when they I seen the fucking
us is fast and funny men to him, but I
knows as and d.

Speaker 10 (06:57):
I go to fifth for sure. So you came back
home after the store with your swistress, with chairs, with
dad whatever all that. I got your girl behind something,
remember she went period whatever she was chilling.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
He was like I wanted to get she was thinking
of that one in the bed type of giving rice. Okay,
so he went down by or something.

Speaker 11 (07:22):
You sitting in the chill, and then you end the
going back outside college and right right after the fact,
passing back then the chest wall, your cameos, fathers.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
All the fucking I literally hurt the shot litly standing
on the side talking to him. Little nor my fecks name,
he had a shot. I go next door again, what
the fuck's one who looked like this little one? All
the fucking the little kids come outside, everyone here to
come outside?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
So whyver I told you? If we've seen you running.

Speaker 11 (07:55):
From where the incident took place and that lovely chill,
that wouldn't even if it's on camera, that wouldn't be true.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
That wouldn't be true. If that was on camera, I
would not be sitting here right you know, I was.

Speaker 11 (08:09):
Nearing actually would be sitting here. And Antony was Weaver Contillia.
He was on camera whever until he was like, we
got some of you running down the street.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's somebody asks you if you straight?

Speaker 12 (08:22):
You cool?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
When you say I got that, motherfucking.

Speaker 12 (08:28):
Mm hm, what.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
The fuck I'm I'm not making you do that.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
I'm just saying I wouldn't be sitting you know how
many mother times it was out there girl like I
like y'all suspect y'all told me that.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
I literally heard the officer said suspect had an all
fucking black girl. Well we weren't there, but that's what
the fuck.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
That's what the fuck I was told by your fucking
I have one fucking white and bro white.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
What the fuck? What the fucking chair or a little
fucking change, like come on, man, But you went to
the house in between like that hold man tomics everything.
You went in the house after that. That's why I
was asking. I went on my fucking porch. But you
said you went to the house to let your snacks
and your squishes.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
Got your sword. That's why I just told you. I
never said I the fact I never said that.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
You did say I said, I'm talking about this. I'm
not gonna argue some annis.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
I asked you that because doctor, you are hands something
on the bird that's not making fun Thomas, I'm not
putting in.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Anything like we have the conversation. Did I say from
charging times that's color? Did I say charge with? Okay?

Speaker 4 (09:41):
So what I'm saying is I'm only giving you the
facts that we received that we got some like witnesses
in the area.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Also camera footage. Do you get one of you and
say you're saying it's not true? You seeing the camera
footage for me literally telling me what the fuck I did?
I just got down fucking it's not the camera third
eastead we saw you, saw you run it, So what
did you have them? What did he saw you running it?
From the direction? How do you know this man? What

(10:10):
did he have on? Bro? What did his Facebook? Like? What? Like?

Speaker 13 (10:14):
Man?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Like? What the fuck? Brother? Why are you asking me
that obviously you know whether we know that already? I
mean you asked me questions like you don't know this.

Speaker 14 (10:25):
If obviously we knowed, so we wouldn't be having this
conversation right now.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
So no, I'm I'm just trying to have a conversation
with your time. And so again I'm scarcing transparency here.
Who was it that you got into it with today
or tonight? I didn't know. I have a time of
him get into it with no body.

Speaker 15 (10:45):
What about the other day when that girl came down
the street screaming up the boy her boyfriend being well,
he called.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
The police prement my parents They could tell you that, literally, which.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
Parents, Jamy, don you can tell anybody guess That's why
I was with the fucking tell you the fuck.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
But when it came down, m got out work. She
gotta explain it.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
She would have asked fucking that, And she said, my
man is getting on me. He's trying to fucking killing me.
I said, where is We ain't to call the place.
He tried to go back there, and I said, no,
not need to go back down and just put his
hand on you. We called the fucking place around went.
I can't not fucking house.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
What the fuck it is? Just that's.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
This is fucking it is that.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I agree. So did you see no two people tonight?
You see the girl in the dud I do know.
I don't even know no no girl.

Speaker 15 (11:46):
Okay, So let me ask you this. Yeah, it's gonna
happen one way or another. You said, you have to
say it. Peek twenty, you're not going the girl.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Correct, it was in your pocket and you can take
pretty much any calibers and three.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Eight or not.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
But look at your bullet can take a variety, Like
we said, a skule pack of publics.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Correct in that magazine was a field with different campers.
Well not the magazine that I had. No, Okay, what
magazine that you had on? What kind of my magazine
was full of? Fucking was full of fucking holloways? Bro,
you know what kind of analytics I don't remember.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
Do not buy my fucking water, but I have my
fucking really gonna get that ship further?

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Bro, Like, what's this the.

Speaker 16 (12:36):
I mean if you go find out one way or another.
I mean, I talked to you a why she's very cooperatly,
she's very concerned right now. No, no, this ship like
this bro, son, none of that ship bro or mona.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
I came down there from where the fuck the fucking
ship was happening from because I was starting to my
fucking neighbors.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Bro the fuck bro, Like, you not gonna tell you
that I was part of care running. Oh no you're not.
You're not buying it? Broad your story just changed, man
said small shot of girl. But you said if it
was on the porch, that's so. How many firms stop
stop stop? And she said was across the street with
your your family. This is Roland. That's what you told me. Spot.

(13:20):
You also said that listen, check it out, check it out.
I've been listening man, the story, you know, I mean,
you're telling me your story because y'all just trying. Okay,
we'll just give me the story from the top. Give
me your better understanding. Now you can rep your leg
and give me the story. All right, go ahead, brod

(13:42):
set on my fucking girl.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
Same thing we do every fucking weekend when I get
fuck with heay, I go to the store, go get
some fucking snaps and come back home.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
And get something. Daint me. I get some we watch
the movie has sex bum Bam, go to the fucking store,
go to my swishes.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
I come back home. I'm just laying on my fucking ever.
What the fuck is I'm sitting outside and in my mouth,
I hear a double fucking next door. He got my
fucking you're.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
A g street in that door, which one across the
shape like for eight ninety four bu No, that's the story.
That's my prch, Bro, that's my porch.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
That's where I was smoking a fucking miut that waiting
on my neighbor to get on to get some fucking leading.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Bro, Like, what do you not understanding? I am not understanding.
Why are you getting so agitated? Because bo, this is
pissing off. I'm like, we're just talking. Man. Nobody if
you because you don't understand what I go through. Bro,
you don't understand the trying trying tosten you. You gotta
understand what I'm saying. You were sitting on which porch
Fiz Jerry's house or eating any.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
That's what we're trying to ask you was sitting at
eight and ninety fourth after I tell my family snack
at the house.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
This is obody sat on the porch.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
I'm saying, you saying if you took this cats Now,
you said you never went in the house, and I said,
if you did.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
How the fuck do you think my snack got in
the house. I can't.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
That's the struggle to figure out too say it never
going out one story you say you didn't go to
the house.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
That you say you did. You said churches in them
out and you just sent your guy in the street.
So we tried to listen. You've fought different places at
one time. Oh my god, bro, it's serious. Roches told
me so when we were telling you. When I came
back in this broad, I'm like, it's not a fucking man.
So I was doing in the fucking house about I
told you also that you went to the house and

(15:30):
the girl was laying I did tell you this. Your
girl was laying in the bed. You agree she was
laying out one hand, You was laying at the other
at one.

Speaker 8 (15:38):
Point, correct, Chomas, how do I know your girls on
the period? Obviously because he tells you and I knew.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Her orientation that she was laying on the bed and
that she was there, and you went and got her
some snacks. You admitted, this is what you do every weekend.
You win, got her some snacks. She was just waiting
for her to come home if you get paid breaking
and whatever whatever.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
But what you did to say was you originally said
you went to the house after you got back, and
then you changed and said you did go in the house.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
You was just sitting there on the stoop, smoking on
the porch, smoking your switchter and now its a black
and min Bro. I never said I was smoking a
fucking swish.

Speaker 17 (16:17):
You did said if you went down there and you're
waiting here and the great come by me.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
But now you said, can you said I walked down
on the store and bought some swisshts. That's what you
said originally. That does not I mean I was fucking
smomping a fucking swishing. Nigga, What the fuck like what
you're talking about? I had a fucking mom my, my buddy.
It's on my fucking porch and my ash trade. What
the fuck, Bro, You're not gonna You're not gonna team

(16:43):
with the fun I did and did not do this
because I'm not telling you what you told me. You
told me what you did, Bro, You told me where
you went, Bro, you told me what it's four corners.
It's four corners my leg, it's journey ship to my neighborship,
is my house, and it's the fucking ever have to
literally two hot fucking down beer zem here you're talking

(17:05):
about no exactly where you were, like what this planning ground? Right?
But why you know, I'm just telling just the stuff
he told us. Why are you get mad at us.
We weren't there.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
I'm not spocking fucking Heather bro like all it's tripping,
like all going off the fucking line.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
We looked at your fat so what I'm not having
enough likes? Yeah, we do not just to all stuff
on time, your time. It's time, Tom. I'm gonna just
tell you all this stuff. I just told you. Why
do you think the officers went straight to your house
after the shooting?

Speaker 4 (17:34):
They went right to you, and you happen to have
a six P three twenty nine millimeter with a scared
o pack of bullets and something missing.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
In the magazine. There was not missing in my magazine. Yeah,
there was no ship missing out of my magazine.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
A good habit?

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, fuck bro, how you happening? You actually got both magazines.
Officer took it off of you. Man. We looked at
the magazine. We got two magazines. We don't have the
one to see him silling room. So obviously you came
to your house for a reason. Eight ninety four. We
knew you were there. That's your house.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
We came looking for you, right, and.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
All the people in the world, right, you know, all
the people that I was out to all the night long,
called the only motherfucker and they know that. Hell and
and they having a fucking gun on the fucking black.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
Hand be outside where they say in my fucking ND
what the fucking one is listening to?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Natal called man and y'all and I readed this back.

Speaker 18 (18:29):
He said that man had on that black fucking hoodie,
all black, bro, the fuck.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
With all black shoes is dark outside? The fuck did
y'all know it wasn't he, bro? Because people told us
it was you son. You already said it was a
lot of people outside, right, how many people outside? I
said it was so many house wearing black? Right when
you said how many people? But how many people ran
from that directs? I never said I got fucking and running,

(19:00):
and I I never said about I don't have to
suck that, you know, you see it in court. So
we just want to know what happened that told happened.
So I don't how fuck don't I haven't what then happened?

Speaker 16 (19:15):
What the fuck up?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
I thinking? Hissed me right now like like like pep rid,
I'm not like this life so hyped up? Bro, I'm upset.
Why the stories that you told us?

Speaker 6 (19:27):
You're not supposed to be here, bro, no, bro, because
I know I'm not supposed to fucking be you don't
want to try to can't.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
I can't. I can't get this upset though, just yet.
I don't know why you up said you just set
like you want to.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Know what happens because don't want you don't want to
know it, just like real talking between us, like what's happened?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Man? Like I'm trying to let you start again from
the tip that your story is changing. So every time
you repeat the story back to you, you're gonna tell
me how you're gonna tell me. I said it distaid
that you told me what you went and did. You
said if you was on the poor store it is.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Then you said it was across the street from eight
ninety four beers, and you think all that should happened
they happened one night.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Brother? What the fuck? Like? What are you trying to say?
For real? What do you what do you mean? Why
am I trying to say this? What's it up? I'm
not gonna take this ship no more?

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
You don't have to bro. I have some straw pace, Bro, Bro,
I went to the fucking store. I'm not gonna say
this more.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
What time.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I don't have a fucking fella the fun the way outside,
still light outside? What story did you go to? Bro?
I went to the fucking West Market? Men and west
Market okay, so they would have the time. Did you
walk in the store, yes, yes, the fun dame would yes, yes, yes,
the clunkligh wood. So then you and then and then

(20:44):
on top, all right, go ahead talk to us. You
said you ain't gonna tell us no more, so this
could be your last time telling this. So we just
tried to establish the fast where this is not right,
this is not right, and then oh my god, this
is okay. So you said you don't know what's going on,
just to step up through the chase, say she don't
want to tell me? Ship this is you said this

(21:05):
to your last time telling Do you want to tell
me the story? Do you want to tell me the
story or not? What for y'all? Not? We're investigating. We're
investigating the murder here, so you have to ask me.
I'm asking you, do you want to tell me the story? Here?

(21:25):
I'll be a strait with you. Do you want to
tell me? Because we're gonna check everything else.

Speaker 17 (21:29):
You said you want to the man West Market, So
we go establish the time that you did go and
if it's light outside, we'll know because we don't get
that for the story.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
Fucking fucking right outside. I'm little trying to tell me
I know I have wrong, like like, I'm not a
gobout to say fat he said, we got a wrong guy,
I have a cesars.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
What the fun look like? I'm does the Sezar have
to do with anything? That's the places and actually have
things go by the way. It's people within wheelchairs that
shoot people that fear completed. It doesn't change the fact.
Doesn't the seater and a person in the wheelchair.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
They can all compated the same thing. Your hands work,
you still get upset. You shouldn't be here. If you
were so worried about the seers, you wouldn't be this upset.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Bro, That's not the point. I know people that I
grew up with see Chrya literally kind of I'm trying,
and I keep trying to tell you because y'all see that, y'all,
but we not. We're not doing nothing to you. You're
saying we try to hear something. No, you could actual
fact if you were charged with anything. I'm just trying
to talk to you as I'm trying to he's trying

(22:42):
to talk to you, okay, and I'm trying to say,
explain some the both of y'all. I try hear the
wrong fucking guy by dig b like what the like? Okay,
so we're gonna brule it out. We got the wrong
fucking guy. Matter of fact, if I was finding on camera,
you would see if I was so far caught on
been saying whatever the fuck? I didn't say, you set

(23:02):
it on camera? I said, a camera got you running past,
So I said, somebody else heard you say that. If
they checked the men all straight, I will say that.
So where your game is at, Thomas? You are right?
Where'd you take it up? I said, yes, I'm okay.
I'm pretty sure. I said, as I'm okay, I don't
know what the fuck. I can't what came on my number?

(23:24):
Why would they ask you, man? Though you know what
came out of your box? So why would they ask you? Man?
Why would they ask you? Because you go okay, Thomas,
and you said you know what came out of your mother,
But why would they ask you?

Speaker 13 (23:39):
Again?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
God, brother, you told them about the fun I'm talking
to you, brother, fucking you know all that tough guys. Stuff.
Don't look brother, you do. I just needed that in
any sort of way.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Shipmail, Bro, you said that you have seizures one getting
all that?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Great brother, because look how you talking to me. I'm
asking you a question. I'm trying not I know what
you want?

Speaker 5 (24:00):
How to sing?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Where something handling? I'm like a for real like how
the fun?

Speaker 13 (24:04):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Why you so you keep asking the question? He asked
you like he just asked you question. He said, why
would the neighbor asked you that? And you said, I said, Okay,
I know what the fuck about my mom?

Speaker 16 (24:16):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
That's what you just said. So what am I saying
to you? I'm not putting words in your mom you
have you said that. These words are coming from you.

Speaker 14 (24:26):
Nobody's pulling your streets, nobody's manipulating you, nobody's telling you anything.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
We're just asking you questions and your answer since you
wanted to just want to I mean, why the fun?
They asked Joermany how many times he had me? Okay,
I know her fuckings.

Speaker 6 (24:40):
You're talking about Heart and Jeremy and quiet man asking
hold you asked him talking crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
We don't need to call with the FURO Jerremany, you
got my card context so bro scared by the changing up.
He saw why you did what you did.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Everybody checks on me, Bro, you know he said too,
you wasn't yourself?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Very said you want yourself. You also said like, because
I'm going through something, Bro, I am literally boring through something.
What the fuck are talking about? So Britlan, I fuckingself? Bro, Like,
what the fuck? You don't even know if what going on? Side? Bro?
The fun you have no conversation, Like what the fuck
we have in the conversation? Bro, you can explain what's
happening to you, what's going up? Or I don't, Bro,

(25:23):
why you do what you did? Hope they want you
involved in I'm gonna ask you this. You said we
got the wrong guy, right. I didn't even tell you
you were charging anything, but you automatically assume. And that's
what we because you're telling me that somebody on fucking
camera said that.

Speaker 19 (25:42):
Like, I didn't tell you. Nobody on camera said that
you did. No, I said, whatever I told you. Somebody
said they checked. I said, now you're lying.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
No, I don't lie, You're you're I don't have a reason.
You literally just said that somebody seeing me on camera.
No I did said that when everybody told you you
were on camera. You can't keep up with your own life.
So now I'm like, yeah, no, put my mind. I
don't know you sell you know what my mind? If

(26:14):
you don't know what I wanted about, Well we can
eliminate all this. We can eliminate all you in to
the store. We know you w the store.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
You came in, your girl in for hot chee or
hot or she.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Wants something placey because she got on her period, went upstairs.
You laid them the bed for lot bo ofair. She
fell asleep. That's what we know. That the truth. We
know you went to the store. We're not doubting that.
We're not saying you never did know this store. You
said it. Went to the store, then you came back.
You put your snacks on the bed like you do
every weekend. You know what I mean. You you laid

(26:47):
them out, and you came back downstairs, set on your porch.
You spoke to switch on the mouth. I sat up
my porch and I smell the fucking mouth you heard.
I heard the fucking shots go off. My first it
was gonna go down to my fucking neighbors like ran
down the street. I went over there. I'm like, that's
why I'm trying to say what neighbors then, bro, I
don't know damn, That's what I'm trying to tell you.

(27:07):
I do not know that he's a big guys, bad guy.
But I'm like, white night, Yeah, that's what we're asking.
And you getn't upset with us about this. You didn't
tell us who it was. I don't know him, so
I cannot tell you to stop boyd pinish boy.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
So when I didn't, I tell you if I don't,
go ahead, and phippis from you went over look, so
when you heard the fucking sat ready was the go
down head fish? Because I heard seems white running. When
I seen them br running, I went down him white back, piach,
y'all good, y'all good to tell y'a okay, he like.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
You went down there and deal what you pulled it
telling people? But no, when I you just did what
he did being just what I feel, jess, So you
did that and it was I went down there. I'm like,
this is a check on him. See distressed he got
He's like you is you good? Is your okay? You
need He's like you need he damn. I'm like, no,

(27:56):
what's going on with your wife? She's like somebody just
got shot. Conversation went off.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
They turn around, I see Jeremy talking to him about
the ship. Yeah, y'all pull love.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, like you think it was a mistake. They came
right to you.

Speaker 20 (28:11):
Yes, I literally do want people out to bro. There
literally was a big asso. He wanted that big but
he was kind of being literally was a you know
kind of dude.

Speaker 18 (28:23):
How did he have to dude that literally took off
some ship. It was something to that same ass dude
that I was fucking talking to.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Me like literally black who were black? Like like yeah,
like the motherfucking big soft stir or regular guy, regulars,
the regular guy. He was standing here, this dude I
was standing, I was.

Speaker 18 (28:41):
He came past me as I was hunking as I
was talking to fucking the big game, the Big Game,
saying like, dude.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
That was something he ask that's me a gay ship.
He was over seeing his dude.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
I never seen him, never seen him before, never, Swear
to god, fucking son, I've never seen him before.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Never never. He literally let my face.

Speaker 18 (29:02):
Took his clok his off threw it down, and he
said he was down with I don't know where he's
doing down there was when we was talking, I wasn't
really I wasn't.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
Looking at him as he was, you know, but he
had a fucking he had on the fucking jacket. I
didn't see the pub of his pants. And she was black,
she was just black. I didn't did you've never seen you?
I never seen him like I never seen him before.
Did even say something.

Speaker 21 (29:30):
Like he didn't know with you?

Speaker 6 (29:31):
Or he did not say none of none of that
only person, the only person that he ever done, I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
It was.

Speaker 6 (29:38):
It was dark and stuck in in that time. The
place was a little flying past stopping helping off the car.
He said that he well, I never didn't mind. I
didn't think any like that.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
I didn't you tell the police when they when they
when they got you and they and they they grabbed.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
You or whatever it was satispected that you ever tell
me about this other dude. I just said, I got
the wrong guy, bro, Like I'm I'm been outside when
I tried to when I.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
Tried to explain that shit, jentleman was literally saying the same,
brother of ship, it's not him.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
It's not him. It's not him. Okay, So like when
I would you be a depathing but just getting your
DENA there, would you attention? I don't got no problem
with that. Okay, we're gonna get your DNA and it's
gonna move you out. Do you do a gunshot residue
test on your hands, make sure you didn't share anything.

(30:29):
Go ahead, I'm do all of that. The reason we're
doing this because we got the wrong. God, we could
be wrong. So I've done very saying hold on, I've
never said you be in. I understand that, and I
can tell you myself. Just hear me out. You ain't
been through it with me, have you. I'm not trying

(30:49):
to tribute you up for anything. I'm just going on
with what he told me that what I GITLIS was
in the area. If we're wrong, just to move you out,
you got okay, Hold yourself down, man, we don't need
you having a seed or not. Most wonder I need something,
but breed hey, set up reread man, hold yourself now.

(31:15):
I want to tell your mom. Your mom seriously shoes concerned.
And I owe this to her because I most fight
you do the same. Shut up here, and keep this
concert bro sover.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
First off, her to be that deal with a certain
brow know did not the shit fucking bro nothing does
not fucking care about it like this bro s god
Bro like she don't Bro.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
She know you still are vag She's still got language.
Hey that ship, bro, you believe it. You know what
I said? So this is the no trick you're reading
her nothing that completely probably the volunteary waiver mule swam.
You never have her me and ain't take him before.
So what we do is he puts on gloves, takes
out a heap tip. He was inside of your dog

(31:58):
rather than inside the other dog. That's it, so right,
you just put your name. I well your name I
like Thomas said, this is the third you have consent,
your signature are. Then we signed off on it. Either
either I signed off or he signs off. The way
to send. The day was out. We said this to
the laugh becomes bad. It was done. Okay h yah

(32:28):
h h h. You got that tells tell us say

(32:55):
I might don't go because right.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
Then no, let's say you say yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
That's what I want. Yeah yeah, overk on that same thing.
That's a virtue and know that you're saying your mind
will never be that concerned or whatever. And she said, like,

(33:33):
you know, it's still my baby, she's still carried. I
think you've also got to understand that she's still gotta
be concerned. If you you you are there right for
me kids much, you will be concerned too, no matter
how things go too yourn or not drive? Yeah, yeah,

(33:57):
how many? What'll those?

Speaker 5 (34:01):
I see two?

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Once you got this, once.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
You can see now, wouldn't you be conciled whether the
be is that you go through with the baby's mobs
or not to steal you'll see red, I got kids,
he got kids.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
We get it. We can here and if we want
we want to be able to.

Speaker 14 (34:26):
Move you out of that will depend all possibly we
will be also you gotta understand what we got a
job to do too, all.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Right, or we want to get your excided story what happened,
because it does not look a good man. But if
you if you'll just let me think when you're talking.
But if you if you tell us what happened, you're
defending a girl from getting me up again because you
know you don't want to see that happen again, or whatever.

(34:54):
The three kids story about what happened, you know, the
truth about what happened, or defending up the girl or
something like that, or who came at you crazy, or
or or anything. Or we could prove that those those
bullets that came from your gun, because it's called jher comparison.
It's where the thing can't see the trigger it shoots out.

(35:15):
We can match those shelcasings to that gun on you.
We can match the DNA from your shelf facings from
the DNA and all this other stuff. But we can
prove all this stuff and it's a cold blood and
murder for no reason. Or there's something that.

Speaker 22 (35:28):
Happened because every night she got her ask booked by
her name and you saw that and your neighbors said
you were really pissed off about it.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
If something happened tonight between the time or something you do,
seeing you do threaten do came in crazy. But we
want your story. I don't even know where it is,
so what happens to like, we want to hear your
story about what happened. Man, we don't want we don't

(35:58):
want to fund Piercer saying you just anily walked up
some dude and shot him because just like now the
the bag broach us down to you gave us your DNA.
We got direct comparisons in the shell case.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
That you watched rime zones.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
You know you can managed up. You can match up
shell capers two times.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
Okay, So we have all that.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
We got cases on the scene with witnesses seeing you
leave in the area say I fucking got him.

Speaker 17 (36:26):
We also got a reading camp video and you running
up the street after the shots is fire.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
So so no, I'm just I'm being serious man. We're
not lying any man. I'm not. I'm trying to I
live lead lively. I'm not lying. Listen, listen, I literally job.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
From that way to fucking Jamie and when right that
he actually wish you cool, when after he hasn't been
like okay, he said, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I said, I did not fucking know, not Jeremy, the
other neighbors. No, yes, another neigh versus, Okay, I did that?

Speaker 5 (36:59):
Go hey or just listen.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I'm jolly going off with what we know. Man, We're
trying to ask you.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
We're trying to ask you what happened, what happened in
between that time and to jaw from where you was
at that up the street.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
We right where you was at, man, and footage just know,
and the.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
Ring camera will catch the same fucking Vigne taken off
this fucking jacket going down towards it.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Those shelfies are gonna come back to your guns. Those
brown's pay gonna come back. You're basing. They're missing from
your pure magazine that you had on you. They're not
gonna come back. Do you want me to show you
the magazine that the rounds are dancing? Man, I just
looked at it and ain't listen to my good mock
think all seventeen seven. Don't not play no probings in
my play. I don't know the last time around there

(37:47):
is ken was one in there.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
There's no we know all this.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
We got to say we cared.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
You got it.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
You you can see you can see it. You can
see you yours on yours, and it's there's no seventeen,
so we know it's round the messing the same, the
same pieces.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
That we find on the ground, the same rounds that
are in your gun, hollow points all all.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
And that was actually actually actually my whole, My whole
has a start in seven. Okay.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Cera Wars is different, but it's still out the police issues.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Listen, we're not bling, We're not gonna make it. We
want to know your story. That's why we're just sitting
here talking to you. We want to be wasting our
time because you can charge moon seen such a thing,
but we want to talk to you. We do want
to be talking. Cheremy, we talked to your mom. If
we don't know why, man you talk to you know,
it just looks like in court, looks like a cold,
cold blooderword. You just keep going killing the Senate story.

(38:47):
This would be the only time we get to talk
to you before you're arranging.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
And then you get a lawyer, and then the lawyer
looks at the fast and then the direct comparison is
that we get back from the gun to the magazine,
to touch the DNA everything.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
That's all the crimes get solved now.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
We don't reach inside and just figure it out saw
scientifically done at this point.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Whether you give us the rest story.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Or not, whether you tell us the truth or not,
your science specifically, you keep saying you don't know what happened.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Your story keeps shaming. You get enoughset at night rate?
Do you hold on? Do you know what that looks
like towards jewry jury. They will say, you guys were
very cooperative. You tried to talk to find it. He
just kept denying. He kept denying it. But then a
scientific proof brings back it doesn't matter. But Burger guys
stating up drinking doesn't matter. Drink kind of change your clothes,

(39:40):
change what happened. None of that. It won't change the
fact that DNA loans back to everything it does. Chell
Athan's coming back to the gun and they back to
everything that is from your gun comes back. You understand ballistics.
I'm of a gun that's a barrel.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
Every barrel has a different cut pattern, So it leaves
an imprint on the bullet as it comes out.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
What's transfers and says, this bullet came out of this gun.

Speaker 23 (40:11):
You hear what I'm trying to say, the same thing
in the shallows. Then it happens with the cases too.
It leaves an imprint on Every gun maker has a
special imprint and every gun that So what we're saying
is and I'm just gonna ask you, do you remember
how this is gonna look if.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
You go to court.

Speaker 14 (40:34):
We keep trying to ask for the same thing over
and over, just as you take the bay bridges, explain
to you.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Just I explained the fat patterns. Just I explained how
the guns work, and I just explained ballistics to you.
Are those bullets gonna come back? That's my fucking gun.
God fucking damn bro, God fucking damn bro. Like God
damn Bro, who's the dude. I'm not gonna let the

(41:03):
gun to somebody at all?

Speaker 13 (41:04):
Now?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
So what was the do to use your gun? Tell
us probings like Mark, who you're just not going, I
don't know going about that somebody named Mark? And now
well what is it, Tims? What problem did Mark has doped? Okay,
we'll tell us not Now you got you can tell.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
Us a story because the tik his bring was bick
thing the whole fucking time. They was funing on all
the day. Was coming in and said, I use your stick, brother,
good bar literally and I'm doing I knew even enough
to know that he's my handle this.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Business and bring my ship right back.

Speaker 6 (41:48):
I heard them mother say, get the fun about that
fucking stool now, and that's when that's why we down here.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Bro, Like God, damn, bro, fucking damn. So you love
Mark you, Joe Biden that Thomas he's on camera. He's
on this Helmo camera, not chege jaws. Because we looked

(42:15):
at the footage and huge ong in past. We don't
see the dude jogging the past that you describe in
this heavy stet. Big dude had on the jacket not
knowing what cut life literally right frocking day or bro, like,
how do you want the brother? Well, we looked at
the camera.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
He literally took his fucking jackab off and said something
bout his fucking breast of his head.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Bro, the fuck brother right, brother, Niggas will not be
like this, bro like, I'm fuck w Bro. Sir, you're
telling us that those bullets is gonna come back to
you about? Is that what you're telling us? Thoms? He
used Yo yo land Yo dune. It went down here.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
The dude anymore that you didn't know before and all
of a sudden, now you know, heavy said dude. Black
dude was window the whole time when I was alrearguing
and didn't even zipped you.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Well, we have one person dead. The dead man don't talk.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Then we talked to his girlfriend that didn't mention anything
about to do name Martin the same girl that got
even a word, and I interviewed her.

Speaker 24 (43:22):
She didn't say, listen, listen, listen, listen. When you ask me,
we'll tell something. We go to this boy, but now
when we asked him, people that got did y'all here
the mock a.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
Mother fucking saying get off that fucking schooled And then
I heard grad shots, Bron, And I guarantee if you
ask guys, they what's not just that, bro?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
They gonna tell you. He asked, Bro, and my case
is fucking suf Bro. So you're the one that told
me off the scooter? No, no, no, the bro, wherever
the fuck you knew it was? I was down there,
bro saying I heard somebody saying, get off that fucking scooter.
And I heard guys she were did martin the other
fucking straight? Where do you live at the fucking door

(44:08):
to what? Dude? Whatever the fucking doing?

Speaker 4 (44:11):
What it is?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Bro? What do you have on jacket? What color? I
don't learn? No? You, I mean you're not helping them.
Canty's here, man, you have in your you have in
your pipe, your gun over for another dude's I was

(44:33):
talking about pitching, but you know it's you know by day.
You just didn't know him before. Now you're knowing by name.
You said, you know we have to the business with
your gun, so we so basically we are. You go
with the gun. It's gonna come back to you. You
loaded the bullets into that gun you put you didn't

(44:53):
boot bullet in a vagazine? Did you put bullets in
a magazine?

Speaker 4 (44:57):
Yes, So you know the DNA is gonna match back
to your collage coming out of that and you, as
somebody else, use yo yo gun to commit a murder
and then handed back.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
How then you just said that you're doing you No, no, no, no,
it's not like just I said none of my post.
No fuck, I wasn't gonna kill him, you said, because
you know about the man in this business, I know
he's gonna handle it, but I'm not even gonna blow it.
I'm not saying he's gonna really hit this. I'm I
never seen a niggas hit his fucking targen like I.

Speaker 6 (45:26):
Know all the motherfuckers like going to the cuts shooting
the gun or going to Anthem and shooting the gun
and ship like like I know it was it.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
If I'm not like not knowing my fucking's in here
and kills somebody. Bro, What the fuck?

Speaker 4 (45:37):
But why listen if you pull the gun. It's always
saying that you know you what if you pull a
gun and good your work? Not everybody he was a
big gun, okay, But the person you said, you know
that he got chowing a lot of stuff right now
he used your bland yo, gun yo and being handed

(45:57):
back off to you.

Speaker 25 (45:58):
They comes to ractly for you at any given time
that you know that this dude had joke done to
clear yourself. You should have seen that something I cut
in get then you said he lit him weird.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
I live up Conscious Street from eight nine these four years,
and where is this dude there?

Speaker 6 (46:15):
He stays down and everybody to him the same time
that that fucking already he'd be right there on that
fucking force the whole fucking time.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Older dude going to dude he has he has to
be already. He like he has to be all your
head and in his face and like he's aldy, like
he just looks older. He don't look nowhere here on
my age, people know him just from the block. I
know I'll be seeing him, be seeing him walk past
and be hearing my fuckersgether Yellow's name and ship. So

(46:43):
why would you think you would come to you of
all people want to ask you take on a long
with that?

Speaker 6 (46:49):
When that that mom fucking walk besides my neighbors shop,
the mom's next to me.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
How would he know that?

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Brod am listening, But how would he know to ask
you for?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
You don't do that because the church just told you
you something. You know each other.

Speaker 6 (47:04):
Brown, it's been wise his lean bro another niggas from
talking to Barfingdon Brown. The matter of fact was the
teen yards. It's not refreshman, Brow, go call him Nick Mark.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
So we go back to the same good estate state.
It's the dude the leader's named Gigmark. Yes, okay, yeah,
we're going ahead. That happened ring here.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Okay, he gonna say he used your black night work
because we got officers still out there and we'll see him.
So we go get a feedback. We will quit see
if it was the dude name Mark just stated because
everybody in that apartment builds was all block every black.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
It's not another apartment, I said it next to it? Okay,
so the people next to whatever?

Speaker 8 (47:49):
Right?

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Pretty sure?

Speaker 13 (47:52):
Anymore?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Not Bro, not everybody knows everybody blos bro.

Speaker 14 (47:57):
Well, this is the thing you learn, know if you're
gun telling us you loaded you a band, you loaded
your magazine.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I love my ship up every day in fromably the
foping house, bron Okay, listen, you love with it right yo.
You didn't loaded with gloves. You loaded with your men. Friends.
I'm not gonna lead the gun to somebody that i
want my DNA, my hand press, I wasn't mind. Soul
is my everything. I'm gonna hand off a gun since

(48:26):
a dude named Mark that you know from Barfield when
you was a freshman and he was a senior. I'm
not gonna go hand off a gun to any five
y' I don't know. I'm not saying I did not
know the man like that bur at the time, like.

Speaker 6 (48:42):
All here, I ain't even thinking that God to Davis
bad as the fucking I'm not taking ship other girls.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Sometimes motherfuckers is been talking, had told something like.

Speaker 14 (48:53):
Right, I'm gonna ask you this different situation. I'm gonna
use it to conduct your business. There's a real question times,
you know what, why why wouldn't we do it this
action up? Why wouldn't you take somebody else and think

(49:14):
and think about No, seriously, this is just a real thought.
Just say nothing that got nothing doing to just a
real thought time of thought.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
This is didn't give first I would have of what anything? Okay?
And I don't want to deal with what I was
saying to guess myself? And how many times would that
gun dudes before or somebody else? You ever think about that?

Speaker 4 (49:39):
So then you think about it if you shot that
gun to come back to other people, other bodies, other cases,
guess who they're coming back to you?

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Any many many moved your brother? Who we're from?

Speaker 4 (49:59):
Do you see how crazy that look? Insil So now
we know the fact that you're saying it's this dude
name Mark that you know from Garfield. You don't necessarily
know if we about to find out because the dude
that stay in that Yeah, you.

Speaker 22 (50:13):
Had to because right then do the campus is not
in the neighborhood, so they don't look Get this dude
is yo gun?

Speaker 2 (50:26):
You've seen jog and know my whole dam How do
we know what you told me? Sudies your gun? I'm
not saying that brown you notice my fleet? If you fleet,
we wouldn't know. But somebody in the hoods you know
go on the same block. You saying you should be
on camera? Right, that's me taking off his jacket.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
We didn't see that on camper, Yeah, we literally so
it panned out the camera are literally we see you.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
How do we know you was jogging a right hand
if I didn't see the camp because that's who I
was talking to the big ass right dude, Bro. But
I'm saying about, how did you know that you was
running from that area?

Speaker 19 (51:09):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
That's the area it was ad Where the fuck you
wasn't running dominated area? You were learning away from the here?

Speaker 14 (51:15):
No, I'm just serious on the study side of the sidewalk, right,
hero was in the van and across the street.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
From where jever you known live? You ran back that way? Then?
Am I making this up? I ran back lovely up
the street away from where from South Street you ran
up the street? Got done? So if I'm making that
up burns the camera line to this. If this don't
just tell me if I'm mong or not. In my room,

(51:43):
definitely was not a f street Brosident. You wasn't running
up the street or you was just drawn, bro. The
only time I wasn't fucking across my fucking things with
my job was not up the street.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
So the camera is deceiving us again, and that's not
you same high, the same stature saying everything that's not
it's clear.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
It's a clear camera, you know, Thomas. I'm just saying, man,
why we gotta keep going back and forth about this.
First you didn't do anything. Now you gave him gone
to a guy game.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Mark and like Mark Music, because you know when they
had his business. Now, he went to school with the
same dude, Mark, and he was a freshman and he
was a senior.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
You know him from just being around.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
You said he was with him, But I interview the
female that was with him, and then we got a
body laying in a morgue right now, the dude about
that Donald I.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Was with her. I'm very sure the females nod that ship.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
She wouldn't just say, well, she didn't see i'mna be honest,
she didn't see you. The female didn't see you, or
maybe she saw that she's coming here.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah, because you're because I interviewed her, Thomas, I'm telling
you the truth. Thomas, I am telling the truth.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
We talked to her and another girl that she was
with it, and dude was coming off the porch and
they was walking up the street. They was happing a
to street and acrossing the street over to the same
side that Germany good Bone before they got the beard
busily and buried buried. It's stempy houses steps back there

(53:19):
and they were walking up a driver when they heard
the shots come out.

Speaker 17 (53:22):
Due young out his girl's name after he got blasted,
and then they crept down the driveway. He tried to
see if it was any more shots. Everybody's singing it
heard eighth and nine shots. Your magazine is consistent with
it eight tonight bullish missing bro it is, It's consistent.

(53:43):
He just looked at the magazine. It's consistent. Then we
got considered to go in the house that your girl
was laying in and you told her to come out
with her hands up.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
That's the police was telling her.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
To come out.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
So she was sweep. She ain't know what the he
was going on sit reality and she comes downstairs. It
was like, what the hell for? No, they do a
sweep in the house. They see a magazine still laying
out there in your room. Wide open the box there
the box too, a black tact what box with a

(54:20):
blue gun box. Bro, there wasn't no fucking little gun
box just laying on my fucking bed.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
Bro, We just say bed.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Okay, So where was it? That wasn't a blue gun
box layout of that? No next in magazine, no next
to black jacket, no black thing. There was no, there
was never no fucking blue box doesn't oh no, no
vitures does got sick body? Crime scene a girl friend?
You say your grill today? Did your girl do that? There?

Speaker 5 (54:51):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I know for.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
I Harbo House, the drop a magazine in the book
box and the Black Tackle is it events in the
Black tat Tacticle vet and not volver Beth but the
Black tactic best like yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
A custome like all black out there is that Wars
Thomas Stars. It was a fucking game. So it is yours.
She let Mark Parrit with that gun in the Blue
gun Box magazine. That was last of all. Listen, we

(55:31):
ain't gonna lie. We're not lying to you in your rules.
You saw it to take the labor was in there
with mine, John Fox from was on my fucking table.
It was color was blue. It was nowhere here like
fucking bad. What the fuck fuck is he talking about?
Maybe in a hurry went the seven. Now maybe Mark
got did maybe Mark seven? Did Mark ever go in

(55:53):
your crib? Did Mark the were going to your house? Thomas?
Just time.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
You can tell us, man, I mean I was outside
fucking talking to a fucking nighbors.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Is it possible to do Mark the way your house?

Speaker 4 (56:10):
No, exactly where your gun box was and moved it
onto your bed with your girl.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
Laying in grummar dumb boxship and never been fucking moved
from off that fucking man.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Un that's my gun unless my girl took her fucking
phone out of that fucking box.

Speaker 14 (56:23):
Bro, what the fuck your girl's phone was plugged in
in the room, Hobby You think it was in a
fucking box?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
The fuck?

Speaker 26 (56:31):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Like, you're not being scanding, Bro, I'm not, I'm not man,
but you're not doing nothing to you. I mean, ship, Bro,
I know how to get strong. Okay, just the thor
you're gonna stay with it now because again remember this
looks were trying to you, trying to trying to let
you tell your story, because like again, once you get
a ring, you let somebody use your gun. Ain't Mark,

(56:53):
that's not a fantom. That doesn't even exist. Are it's
not around as it. I ain't gonna tell me because
you know you have told us that. You just told us,
you told us, you're lying. And then all of a sudden,
when we said to tell us the real story, and
he told us another story, we've mark now in it.
So which one are we supposed to believe? Because they
told us before we were lying? So are you lying?

(57:14):
It's not even just the first time the little story
he tells us, you lie?

Speaker 4 (57:17):
You know that what we know the whim We just
asked you to why why did this happen tonight? And
you can tell the story of Natah? And this is
gonna help you if you will in court and you
tell the right story. They would say, okay, well this
is what he.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Finally admit didn't see it. But your story keeps changing.
More facts ski coming out from you not knowing this person,
to now you know this person.

Speaker 14 (57:41):
To now you lended to this and now you had
no idea that We even went to the house and
found the other magazine with the Willie.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Case next to it in a tactical best you had
no you had drunk boyfriend. So he can tell that
he's telling me there was the casings in our room. No,
it's no case. Since we said no, no, I didn't
say that. No, So what did you say. We didn't
say a magazine, a tactical black, tactical fast thing. You

(58:12):
saw it, A blue box, a good, good box. We
didn't say any thing about cases. First of all, I
know about eight bucks. It is okay, you're playing the ball.
I can keep your taining about her. I put my
drawers phone in there. Okay. I didn't say that it
was a gun said it did? I did said everything
a gunbox. So what we were saying is is you

(58:33):
said that it wasn't on the day. You said it
was on a thing. If it wasn't like what she did,
move it, she's probably trying to get her phone. That's
what I was saying. Okay, So that's not that's not important.
What we just got to say is what we recovered.
We're just trying to tell you we're not. We're not
here kind of lying. Man. Everything we tell you you
saying we lied to you.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
He was not. Everything we just told you is how
we noticed. If it wasn't the fact that we came
pall right, we're not making this up. You're not making
up anything that we're telling you. What we're trying to
do is like I said, we load up.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
We don't ong and we do. I'm trying to understand
why we're protecting her, what you're looking out for her?

Speaker 4 (59:11):
What you what you're trying to do the right thing?
I mean, you can tell us the truth. Now the
dude come at you crazy? I mean where your niears
told you that name? The dude old the name of
older wood being over.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Yeah, you're upset and he was upset about the dude
getting anything. You think we like a girl getting beat up? Thomas?
Do you think we like that? If somebody lay hands
on your girl right now? How about you react?

Speaker 4 (59:41):
You let your girl if somebody putting hands on your
girl in your presence, outside.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Of you, if she can walk from the store and say.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
This dude just put his hands on me up the
street and he keep on the rest and every time
I see him coming out me crazy?

Speaker 5 (59:57):
What you go through?

Speaker 13 (59:57):
Thomas?

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Sure, huh, I couldn't hear you. You will have your business.
Do you like women being to be out? You like
children being views? Huh? Bro?

Speaker 6 (01:00:13):
No, because I was looking at us, I don't fucking
right the no, No, Okay, so you saw that the
other night, kissed you off.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
It struck the dirty because he said he was he
was looking, bro brow, here's what.

Speaker 14 (01:00:29):
Saying he was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
He's what you got to sit up time. He was
fucking rake me up. He wasn't hurt Rose. He came
outside a niggas fuck screwing up for her fucking life.
My own say, did you not see him to night?
You saw him he was going the same fucking sha,
what did he do tonight? He's obviously drunk. He's at

(01:00:54):
the bottle.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Yeah, he was drunk and he was on the same
grabbed the night right, So now I'm appen was he high?

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Because you know what you guess with me? I don't
fucking know, bro, Like, okay, so what happened? Then? He
said he was on the same craft to night. So
what happened? Times he was shouting to fucking killer.

Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
But when I wanted to go fucking shouting to stop him,
but he came at me, Bro, So I did him
the fucking I had to, fucking dude, No.

Speaker 16 (01:01:19):
Not either.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I got the fucking story, But I'm leaving. The fucking
bro wants water back. You get down, He'll give you
a set. We'll give him in.

Speaker 13 (01:01:37):
Himything us.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Good bro, golf down.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
I believe you.

Speaker 12 (01:01:54):
Upset man, listen destructing her and rushing you don't go
light nobody meet, not on your block for one for two?
You remember what happened to you three the other night?

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Really about.

Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
What's doing the games when you do so from some
sis not done that when you try to stop.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
That came out in the story Day to Night.

Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
So she was right there that happened. Shoot shean off
and that that's go back before the game. Yeah, she said,
she says, it being a doing with physic can't I
can't keep it down to put your hand on physit.
You remember the man you should deal with.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
A one plays with inspection.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
You heard that, you hear all the argument was on
the porch, any kind of that. That's what made you
stand up like this ship again type of thing. So
then you walked up for you walked down there. You
side have worked it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
You want my thinking run on until they push right.
I'm saying we understand that. I said, Remember I'm telling
us how we know the what, the wind and the why. Okay,
so when you gotta right, you just basically just have words.
We do like you verty fucking LOLd type of thing
is this or tell us what you had? What happened?
Like now sis out? Just tell us when to him?

(01:03:20):
And I told you to come back. I told you
to come. He was gonna.

Speaker 6 (01:03:26):
Your fucking business and in fact you next and he
started approaching and just gonna. Ye that's he was dealings
man telling me about schooling. He kept approaching in people
on the scooter and he was walking into me like
bestly is fucking up?

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Where he is standing is walk like Terry, listen some shoes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Your shoes you're black and red. Jordan's this w Yeah,
you're buying it your ring chain something else? I gotta rings?

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
You know what is it?

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
A little out in the lash? I mean okay, so
damn yeah finished. So where was you at like you
said the first shot? M hm, I was in fami
and I was as And let me tell you to

(01:04:23):
remember fire.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
First one was an accident. You can't try, so that's good,
but I didn't. He didn't stop after after a friend him,
That's when I started to come.

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
And can't pull on this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Game boy. After that saw your coller six.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Or something se So you said the first one you
shot just as he wasn't trying to scare him. This
he didn't stop got to be an aggressive sy because
he driving now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
And then when we got how close was it to
which you would say about this close at the very
Adam or you started shooting, I was gonna keep kept
coming hen after.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
He got his where where you where you? Did you
stand standstill? No? I was backing up and he was like,
pros be clean. He he fell and I just screaming on.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
So it just was like the house in the yard
yall was getting a tour right there, sir. In the
first shot went off up here and then you start
backing up, and the last shot it did like where
in the driveway the tours ain't in the driver?

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Did this girl see it?

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
She did?

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
She was going over. Do you remember any other girl
coming to get her? Talking to her something at the
time was the same right his fingers, but he ain't
got to your brother. Just don't get the safe thing.

Speaker 12 (01:06:04):
Okay, when you've seen him the first one you when
you were approaching whatever was he coming.

Speaker 21 (01:06:10):
Up the porch or that house that didn't come like
that When the first time I say he was gonna
be month to flush to put his hands out, so
we jessicating you right, bad nag.

Speaker 27 (01:06:22):
So yeah, at the end of this one, you've heard
him arguing win or something. Okay, you know you did
to just try to tell.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Him just get our money. The type of thing, just
thing we're aroun take about a similar home game. He
wasn't trying to do He wasn't he thought he was
just like just something little dude like flashed the comedy
said that feeling. I'm sorry. You know you never even
pulled it, and I was sorry. I just said, I
just said, you know, how common bro for the one
he was on your probably and the person I didn't think.

(01:07:01):
I didn't think. I didn't get that close like you thought.
You used.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Just gonna need the warning and get him out of here. Kay, else,
you got any questions for us?

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Now?

Speaker 26 (01:07:21):
You see the difference that you telling this this is
between the difference that you're not telling this this. Oh,
how does school look? You can get what I'm trying
to say. No, anything you want to tell your mom
or your girl, just don't do a little more.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
I'm sorry. All right, all right, we'll be talking. We've
seeing you again.

Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
Okay, Hey, John's all right now, you've listened.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Now go do your thing.
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