Tim Thinks He Got Away With Killing His Friend - But the Truth Was Caught

Tim Thinks He Got Away With Killing His Friend - But the Truth Was Caught

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
In this suit?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yeah, I think you'll be over here.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'll see if they got like a blanket or something.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
It is a little chilli you're in here, and then
where they.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Can turn it down. That's wrong? Is it start working?

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Hey, jam, I gonna put this on your ankles.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Hey, y'all have to turn the a csnal here, you,
says blute Chiller.

Speaker 6 (00:46):
Alight, yeah, little mum, it's what it's some mounrisually blue suit?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Kay?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Does that makes you being here shortly?

Speaker 7 (01:02):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I'll try to see about the mazy for who?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Who is the group? Alright or h that's what Prenny.
My name's Dan Warren.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Mescatory Police apartment is the Mescator Kritch Bridges?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Did you with that mug? You? You certain work? You
remember me? I remember you usn't on the phone for it?

Speaker 8 (01:24):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Alright? You are alright?

Speaker 5 (01:28):
I heard you got called all this room get freezing?
Yeah alright, well I we jump right into that. We
have a search warrant for your residence. So that's why
everybody's there. Judge Richardson signed it today. I got a
copy that I can get to you. What is more,
what does the search wark for? Is it a reference

(01:49):
to the uh?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Here is if you wanna read it, that's a copy
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Do you know this, gentleman? Yeah, that's just who is he? Spooner? Spooner? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Okay, who who is that?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
That's my friend? Okay? How how do you know him? Facebook?
You guys are friends on face? Well friends on Facebook?

Speaker 8 (02:11):
Do?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
We had got good friends? Now you stopped getting me realize
this stuff?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Oh okay, wednes Where when's the last time you saw him?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Wednesday morning?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Wednesday morning?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
This month?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
It's a that's a problem.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
So y and you call him spooner? I called him sporn?
Yeah alright, you said, y'all met on Facebook? This sir?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Alright, let's talk about how how did that happen?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
You selling my friend?

Speaker 8 (02:33):
What?

Speaker 3 (02:33):
You just set your message out of the blue?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Y'all have never met before or anything?

Speaker 8 (02:37):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Okay, so he said you just this a friend request?
About how long ago is that?

Speaker 9 (02:42):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
If you can get my phone, you can know what's that? Okay?

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Is your phone at your house?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yes? Sir?

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Okay, alright, we we can go back to that, but
let's in general terms.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
It's been like a month, six months, a year, five years.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know.

Speaker 10 (02:56):
I got about it around October November.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
About o Tabor November, sir?

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Okay, So Octeber November he sends your friend request you accepted.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
What is the first time y'all met in person? Uh?
It it done?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
That would be exactly why about a month after that?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
It's about month after Okay, tell me about that. Where's y'all?
Where'd y'all meet? Okay? We met at lob Okay, So
he came to your out.

Speaker 7 (03:31):
You came to live cause you were trying to see
some adro trying to say some adderall. Oh okay, say
he yeah, he said he was trying to get me
to get somebody to help himself.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Rug.

Speaker 7 (03:41):
Okay, sat when I told him, I don't know nobody
to say in an other rug, I mean by aderall
cause I don't do construction, drugs or none of I
don't see a drugs too, Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
So, which is a good thing obviously. Yeah. So but
so you up. But you know, well, let you he'll
text me four five times a day.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
He would be texting you four or five times a day.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Oh alright, what what's your for? We don't have to
be to have the phone number? Alright, Well what's your
own message on Facebook? Okay?

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Alright, that's what you be?

Speaker 2 (04:13):
A text? Oh okay, alright, alright.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Well let's go back to the first time he comes
to your house. He's coming over there to see if
you know anybody.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
To help him sell some otterrolls? Right? Okay?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Uh did he ask you that on Facebook first?

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Or why come to your house to do that? Right?
He came to my outlet, cause you don't talk that
there on Facebook? Oh okay, alright, So about how long
was he there? Minute? Or y'all hang out or you
sat out and talked about thirty man okay and didn't end.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Up Alright, you remember that conversation at all?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Or uh?

Speaker 7 (04:47):
I sat down and talked to him. I ain't know
if he was gay? Okay, you know, so that kind
of just I was like, yeah, you gotta go.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Okay, So yeah, no last right, but then after that,
you guys continue to talk.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
You said about five times.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
A day your check. See, after that we had got straight.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
What would y'all want out on a daily basis?

Speaker 7 (05:11):
He'll just give me like encourage the words of uplifting
things like that, I give him throws up.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Okay, you know then my car up?

Speaker 8 (05:18):
Now?

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Right? How long ago was that? Uh?

Speaker 7 (05:22):
My water point went out and ron Thanksgiving?

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Okay, man, it's I had tell me you for that.
That Yeah, a lot of family gatherings.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
That wasn't that w that was I would give in
process of getting it fished now. But anyway, anyway, I
cast out. I I'll test him. I cash out and
tell him to take me to work. So, so, did
you pay him to take you to work? I pay
him to take me work. I cash up.

Speaker 7 (05:49):
I'll get him like ten dollars. Then it got to
the level, right m where he was like, no, could
you just let me stay tonight and then we'll be straight.
I was like, man, that's cool. But then he got
to the point like he started trying to do that
all the time. So I asked him, man, I said, damn, man,

(06:09):
what you homeless?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
He said yeah. I said, man, listen, man, this is
what I do for you. Man.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
I'll let you stay here at least twice a week,
but you ain't gonna stay.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Here all the time.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Okay, So did would he stay there?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Twice a week, he'll stay two days a week, okay.

Speaker 7 (06:23):
And then in two days a week he'll take a
shout cause he ain't don't know what it's been.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Or nothing that jeez, okay, okay. And then I gave
him some clothes. Okay, I gave him a blanket, I
gave some sheets, all right.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
So let's talking about this.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
So he stays at your house twice a week. When
that happens, where does he sleep? Is it the same
place every time you had spot.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
For m yep? This his bathroom, it's this is it's
a little mattress in my bathroom. That alright.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
If I come in your front door.

Speaker 9 (06:47):
Right coming down on go to the right, it right
always it's room with real copets and massage.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
And that's where he sleeps.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Okay, where'd you sleep?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I slept in my bed? Okay? Well? Which rooms? Cheers?
Going across the hall? The room across the hall from
the turn going than the left h on this side,
it's the red room with the red cop on this
side is my room. Okay.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Alright, So if I walk out the door, your room's
on the left right being on this side.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
If I could make a right his rooms are red carpet.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Right, they stayed there about twice a week, right, Okay,
she did he leave stuff there?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Or nah, I ain't anything though, Okay, say you don't
have about the movie in or he didn't have anything.
It's what don't counter you he didn't have nothing? Okay,
So look I'm sit.

Speaker 7 (07:26):
So look we had got a alright relationship, you know
we it w wasn't no sensual relationship, but none of that.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Man like a good friendship.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Okay, so he be having a good friend of your Oh.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
He can't have a good friend of me, you know.
So he'll test me and I'll test him back. He'll
ask me to do I need to ride the car?
Let him he'll carry.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
If I ain't got no money, he'll catch you out
me soon. If he need money, I'll cash up up.
And then we got closed. We got straight like that.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
Then he started taking me to work, okay, cause you
know my call messed up like like I said, I'll
catch the bus and when he when I get off,
getting more.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
People up, and then he ask me to stay sometime sometime.
I be colding, yes, sir, okay.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
So when's the last time you had any communication?

Speaker 11 (08:06):
Which spurer Wednesday morning, Wednesday morning, Yes, sir, alright, so
Wednesday morning, I've got fully a calendary.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Your man, I'm gonna say exactly what I'm gonna tell you,
exactly what happened Wednesday morning.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
Okay, cook telling about sleep on the sofa, you sleeping
herself forester the moment he got his chick.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
You get you what's happy? She chick? Tis check his chick?
That because he had got his check and got up,
he went to Boston rode here in the glory. How
the louis you find it? Jesus, I got some chicken,
and it's just like morning times in the morning, he said,
work down.

Speaker 7 (08:36):
It's early in the morning. It's around six o'clock, sir.
Broh six years sir, it's around six o'clock, sir. So
he get up, he said, man, get up, man, let's
go get some cigaretts and then go McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, I said, man, I'm good man. Okay, So this
is what you do. You get on the phone cause
he's talking to so I'm a coworker. He came on
a coworker. Yeah, okay. Her name was Tiffany. I remember
her name. The co worker name is tiff.

Speaker 7 (09:00):
Okay, they listen, he telling her, He asked, no, did
he cast She gave him some money?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
He cast up our back?

Speaker 7 (09:06):
Kay, he cast up up back and they was talking
boom boom boom boom boom, okay boom. Then he said, man,
come on, man, let's go to McDonald or something like that.
I'm'na give you twenty off of them stay there and
shit like that. Okay, I said, man, come on, so
we go. First we go circle K, right, first we
go circcation.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
You went within the circle K that morning, yes, sir, uh,
that what happened.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
And then you went to the bank in Capel City
Bank and he got you twenty dollars Capital City Bank.
Where'd that wanna happen? That's on that's all on our
on Ddam Street. Is that where he is? That where
your bank? Dat? I don't know where your bank at? Okay,
So y'all why was he giving you? Why was your
throwing twenty bus your way? Because you sa cause I
did understay.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Though I thought, y y you would stay there and
turn for the ride.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
But he'll still give it to me. That's why I
want you to get my phone. Man, I say, you
gonna understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Man, Okay, alright, so alright, so they don't ma a
whole lot of suns. But okay, because because you also.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Paying him for gas too. Right now, he's just throwing
money your way. But that's the type of person he is.
Though he's a good guy. You're a good guy. That's
just the type of person. Cause you know this.

Speaker 9 (10:11):
You know that I get paid on Friday and his
middle of the week is Wednesday. And he know how
I read there and got you get paid every Friday.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
I get paid every Friday from um okay, and then
and then give me I like I just said, I
known him to hell along sut.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Alright, So was it a lone or was he giving
it at twenty? I guess he would give me it
to me? What did he say? What he gave it
to you?

Speaker 8 (10:31):
Like?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Man? Good me? Did I need some more? Out? Like? No?
Did he only get twenty dollars?

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Or did he get more?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Oh? He just got twenty? Ok So he goes he
guess y'all he's happy. He gets his his paycheck. Y'all
go to McDonald's.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Just my case, he's buying for you.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Right now.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
He goes over to the uh, the bank gabody and he.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Goes there for no other reason to just get you
that twenty sir. Yeah, he's a generous guy.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
All right. So where do you guys go out for that? Cap? Sity?

Speaker 12 (10:59):
Man?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Back my I I go back to my house. He said,
can I take a shot? Call her? I don't know
what other name was. Well, he was asking her did
she need to ride to work? Okay? And then he
was throwing the phone for him at the boom.

Speaker 9 (11:12):
Kay.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Then he told me, he said, man, I gotta go.
I wanna go to Walmart. You He said he wanted
to get a helicopter first.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
A haircut for work, which time he normally go to work.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Like, nah, where you gonna go get a haircut for none?

Speaker 7 (11:22):
So you can get it's a couple of places you
can go. I tap around like seven o'clock. Okay, this
is when i'd like seven o'clock. He said, we're gonna
get a haircoater for work. He said he need to
go to Walmart, and then he said I gotta go
get his brother.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Kay. He said, then the brother hold his car and
that was it.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
He's your brother hold on to his car, Yes, sir, Okay,
what do you mean now, is it?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
What does that mean? He let his brother Bar's car.
You know a lot of people Bar's car. Okay, So
when you say that, was it like he just bounced
or or whatever.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Then his brother come there and pick up the car
and p and y'all hit each other every day here,
we hit that phone, your phone.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
When we leave text and y'all dropping every day, yes, sir,
all right, and that's normal for y'all every single day, yes, sir.
So when so when I stopped hearing from and one normal?
Where do you what when I stopped hearing from?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Where did you stop hearing from?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Wednesday night? Wednesday night? Was he supposed come back Wednesday night?

Speaker 7 (12:19):
No, that's what he wasn't thoosed to do by it
just it just ain't right for me not to hear
from him, because like every day here he was like he.

Speaker 11 (12:26):
Said a message asking what's up? Yeah, okay, he texted
your back. Nope, he says nothing. Nope, Thursday either or Friday, no.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Text do nothing. No he come around again to get
him a shower or anything. Nope. That's like dropped the
devil card, mean, he dropped the debit card That's what
I said. He dropped the dail cord? Where at at
my house on the porch?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
He dropped his debit card or some house on your porches?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Okay, you still got it? I picked it up. Okay,
you hold on to it for So did you text him?

Speaker 8 (13:01):
He?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Ay, man, I got your debit card? Why won't you
do that? Because I wait for him to come back.
I know wh I'm going here from.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, you're worried about him, right, You're like, hey, man,
what what's up?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Where?

Speaker 7 (13:13):
Where card?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Where he was at? Ask wherever he's at? Yeah, because
he was supposed to come back, so I know he
was coming back.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Well when he left, did he like pick a day
that he was coming back for?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
This? Like twice a week deal? Y'all got going on?

Speaker 8 (13:26):
No?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I know you know all going to work see meeh?

Speaker 7 (13:30):
Like I said, if we gotta understand, if you get
my phone, you don't understand me more.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
And that may be something that may be something we
didn't work on, mister Floyd. But so I'm just trying
to understand. So I want that's what he leaves Wednesday?
So he's at that house he leaves Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
I heard what he says about him going he drops
the tabit card.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
You sent up a message, hey man, concern about you?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Hey man? Where you at? Right? Did you do that
every day?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Every single day?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Your message? Where you're at?

Speaker 7 (13:53):
Where you're at? Y?

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Did you do it today?

Speaker 8 (13:55):
No?

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I ain't doing it today. Okay, So not every day?

Speaker 8 (13:57):
Have it?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yesterday? I ain't doing it. I see him want to move?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
You saw him on the day I seen you with that.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Okay, alright, So.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
What's the last day you did huh?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
What's the last day you did it?

Speaker 3 (14:07):
You sent a message chip Ah, it.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Was late Friday, man, Friday. So you see him on
the dose when you saw him? I seen him on
the new No Masters pass see on Facebook on Facebook?
Yeah we should seehim. Nice book. I was a chicken
and page and I seen you with missing so it
was missing? Yeah, wouldn't that be a reason to text

(14:32):
him even more? But listen to this.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
Isn't remember I told you he was finn't go to
mass He said he was gonna lead everything and go
to mess No.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
You didn't say that.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
You said that he did going to the medison the
weekend before you say he took the shower. You said
he was gonna go to work. He said he was
gonna get a haircut and then he was gonna go
to Walmart. You didn't say he was going.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
Back to Mass.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Okay, Listen, he said he wanted to even just go
to the mass and period.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
Oh goever tied, he was tied on everything around else
and you just wanted up and even just go to Mass.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
But see how I concerned the bottom do because I.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Know he al right, Well, that's that's just to be fair.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
That's different than you say you can go into Walmart,
gas toiletries getting his haircut. Because if I'm gonna get
my haircuts so it look good for work, I ain't
gonna skip out on work and bounce over to Madison.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
But I understand what you I don't know if he
if he you like, because he's crazy that that, sometimes
he'll just flip out of it like times I.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Ain't never no skill work though I ain't never. I
know he didn't like it.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Well, tell me more about when you say he's crazy
like that, what you.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Mean sometimes like he'll just he get on the pills.
I'm gonna get over him, but on doing anything else,
what's what's the one that starts with the beat lee,
the ones, the ones you snore, Oh yeah he does.
He does them too, like value back and yeah, prescription

(15:56):
pills he doesn't. Okay, so he does that sometime. Was
he doing him when he was at your house Wednesday?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
He wasn't doing it day so so he wasn't acting
crazy because the pills Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
He wouldn't. He seemed direct, but he had bield be
at my phone.

Speaker 7 (16:09):
You can you can see anything day, anything that you
want to know about him by what being going on,
cause he telling me everything.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Man, If you get my phone, I'll put it up
right now foot and your phone is where is it
at my house? Wearing the house? It was right about
It was right on the sofa, right by the sofa. Okay,
Like I say you, we can work on that. I
I wanna tell you all that I want listen. I
want you to get my phone cause I want to
get out of here. Man.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Perfect And I can appreciate that, mister Ford, because the
sooner we can get past you. If you got nothing
to do with this, Sarah, we can move on and
you'll find out what happened to your friend.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I ain't got nothing to do with this shit, man, okay,
so he's that every last third Wednesday. I'm glad you
got his debit card.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
What was he wearing when he left your house Wednesday?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
What was he going? I gave hi my own I
gave him on i'm'a stay without everything.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
I gave him a game. I gave him my on
a banket A see cause you were cold he had
now we was in the car, he had nothing to
work with.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I give him a blanket.

Speaker 13 (17:04):
The sheet.

Speaker 7 (17:05):
I think my blanket was red. Mm y'all give my
red blank cause I ain't wanna get my comfortable cut up,
my comforted that my mom gave me.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Don't want to give him? What about the blanket? What
about you? See?

Speaker 3 (17:15):
You give him a blanket?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
I see blanket sheet? What a blanket look like? It
was red?

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Okay, said the red blanket?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
What else? You give me a blanket sheet? I gave
him on? I'm sorry?

Speaker 3 (17:23):
What's your sheet look like?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
The sheet that I got on my pid? She that
you get on your bad yell? Okay, you look like
sheets I got on my pid. I be't understanding bit
in your ounsir, soth What like I think they got?
I think they got flowers on you get some fire sheets.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
Yeah, a flower, cause I had like roses, and cause
I got three on, you got.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Three m Yeah, so I got three on?

Speaker 7 (17:47):
So I give him one?

Speaker 9 (17:48):
Like what color?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
What colored flowers? They're like roses? They like like bright red?
What were talking about? No, they ain't bright red, they're
like fa pan really.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
Okay, see he's take fire sheets, right, okay, so he
can lay on the butt, so he can they on
the bed with Oh okay, so he made him on
a bad yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Okay, Well so they're at your house on his bed
the shit.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
You getting yup s but when he ain't eat, but
he but he can take it with him when he
when he'll stay with me, cause he had got another house.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Okay, so he took those sheets with him though. Okay,
so or not at your house on his bed? No,
I say his bed to rim you leep right now?

Speaker 8 (18:24):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (18:25):
You alright?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Well we went from where he was wearing too. You
you telling us some sheets?

Speaker 5 (18:30):
But why the heck did he end up across the street?
Tell me what I I'm trying to pick your brain.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
You you're there. You have this good relationship with him.
He stay in your house twice a week. He was
last day Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
You know, see you you helped me out.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, listen, what what you think he was doing over there?
I actually don't know. I don't know cause y you
got a man. It's strange.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
He's right across the street from right.

Speaker 7 (18:54):
I don't understand that man. But like I said, man,
i'd have to go to work three o'clock then one.
It ain't nobody across that street.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Man.

Speaker 9 (19:06):
When I came back stead in the clock, it's still on.
Nobody across that street. So where you going to work at?
At on Temple Israel?

Speaker 8 (19:14):
What?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
What is that?

Speaker 7 (19:15):
A pretty school?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
In general tour?

Speaker 5 (19:20):
I like pictures, pictures down to help show the story.
It's one thing to be told something, it's something different
to actually see it.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, you greet you, sir. Alright, say let's talk about
his car. His car, what's helping? Yeah, kind of close
to your house, in the house where he was found. Okay,

(19:47):
it's found the rover alright, yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Uh, our printer is absolutely crap.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
But you recognize that guy walking away from that car? No,
sm you do you recognize as the jacket? Did that
person's wearing? Mus never seen anything like that before?

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Okay, And that bright yell.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
I mean it looks like a freaking highlighter that that
would definitely stick out right.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Nope, you agree? Okay? Uh I did did spinner? I
ever have a jacket like that yours? You have anything
like that? I don't know? Okay, d I ain't no
soon Do you have anything like that?

Speaker 8 (20:22):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I don't own nothing like that. Okay?

Speaker 7 (20:24):
Is that you?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Nope, that's definitely not you. Definitely man you a hundred percent. Okay,
I got I got another questions for you, manute. Yeah,
like I said, big on pictures helps me out?

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Where did that come from?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
You don't know?

Speaker 7 (20:43):
Nope?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Oh you pulled it.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
From your trash can this morning, inside your trash bag.
Who's stuff with your name on it?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Your beer bottles? So is it not? Ma mister fort
probably you ruch. That's not gonna go well for you.
Man uh l. Listen. I I know you've been locked
up before. I know you don't wanna do it again,
but listen, I need to know the truth. I don't.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Let's talk for two seconds, two tr two seconds, that's it. Please,
I will respect you. I want to hear what you
have to say.

Speaker 8 (21:15):
It.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Just listen to me, alright, I have a lot of
evidence in this case, a lot of things. I wanna
talk to you. I ain't gonna throw it all down
some of them.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
I'm gonna do test you see what you gonna be
straight with me. I know what happened to Spooner. I
wanna know why. I wanna listen.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
This is just a small piece. You telling me that
this right here, and you have no idea why.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
It was in your trash can. Oh, your trash can.
He's found across the street. He's last at your house.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
That's place that he was at before you say you
left his car is partner a your house? Guy walking
out his car.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
We have him on video going back towards your house,
wearing that rain jacket.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
And you throw this away. I don't got nothing to
do it. That s okay. So there's no way on
earth prints, DN ain't nothing, nothing nothing. I I can
go back to my computer.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
I can prince you where we took it out of
your trash, of course, with pictures of yours. Your uh,
I think it's work checks, maybe some paste up stuff
first to I mean.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I I can that that's not good for you. Listen, No,
I don't got none to do it cause it to
h let let's p let.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Use some reason, some logic.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
How how did it get there?

Speaker 7 (22:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
You tell me.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I don't know, now, I I'm asking you, sir.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's what I need to know. And you Yeah, some people,
some people think that we come in here and and
it's n I ain't come here to play. I can't
here to get it. I don't know. Well, I ain't
got nothing to do it as man, dope. Well, I
feelutely nothing, absolutely nothing. Well, and and that's what I
need your help for it. It truly is. That's what

(22:57):
I need my phone for. Man, what's in your phone?
I'll tell you all so you see everything that going on.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Man.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I ain't never had no bad rest that man. I
ain't never had no words, no words, no, no, no
discreptionsy no nothing.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
This is a little bit different the fact that it's
in your trash bag.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
But it ain't got that ain't mine, it's not yours. No,
h How could it have gotten in there? I don't know, sir,
You no idea. I've been I've been home all day
so much so, which which is good? So you gonna
take me up?

Speaker 8 (23:34):
My word?

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Do you wanna see some more pictures with it, with
your first CERTivity.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
It with you, the the the other stuff I see
nothing of, okay to to you.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Got the issues with the fact I'm telling you we
found this in your trash you except you taking my
word on yo.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Alright, cool, but this wet it.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
So let let's try to pretend it's a puzzle here.
So we got you and Mr Sponder alright, okay, you
got your friends. He stays at your house sometimes, he
stayed there Wednesday, right after Wednesday, he goes missing, right,
he don't.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Show up for work, right, Okay, so that's not good.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Alright, his body's found literally across the street from your house.
It's not like on the other side of tal I see.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's across the street from your house.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
Right, you got his debit card.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
But right.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
The guy that dumped his car, that dumped it right
up the road, he's wearing the rest of this outfit
in this outfit's.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
In your trash can. And this, like I said, this
is just a small piece. Right, but we could agree
that doesn't look good for you.

Speaker 8 (24:32):
Right.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
But but at the same time, man that ain't like that,
ain't like no whole jagged like what that man got
on that is like a hook and I don't know
where that came from. Yeah, a differently door.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Oh, I don't think you telling me the truth on that,
but we can go back to it. Uh, I don't
tell you the truth on everything.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
You telling the truth on everything everything.

Speaker 7 (24:50):
I ain't got nothing a lot, right, So this is you.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
We both done at you. That's a picture of you
from the end of day.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, he touch you.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yeah, and you said you got uh Spooner's debit card.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Ye never used it?

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Okay, Well.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
This is you used Spooner's tipit.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Card, wearing the same jacket, like saying we got a
shitty prayer, but we know a lot more.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
We had the whole video on it.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
But that's your same jacket and unfortunately that Spooner's hat.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Bro, that's need.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
Yeah, that's you.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
And he used his debit card. I didn't use the
debit card. Well here I got a dific I didn't
never do. Well, guess what what? Why do you think
we had this picture?

Speaker 3 (25:35):
I don't know we had his pictures because you saying
this is you. This this guy on the video uses
his debit card to make a purchase.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I did after Wednesday so you saying this is you.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
The store records in their video saying you use Spooner's
debit card to make a purchase.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
You told me you didn't use it. I ain't. How
does that make sense? I pay caves. How does that
make sense? I pay a care when I win to know? Okay,
So the bank records are lying. It's how would I
know what time to.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Look to see when you went to the store. I mean,
it's by happenstance at the time we went to look
at the store and the person using Splinter's.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Debit card, boom THEO and a bank record showing that
this person that we agree is you is using his
debit card his credit card.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
You see why that's another problem. Yeah, well that's that's truth. No, bys,
what happened, I don't know. I definitely don't. Mostly I
don't know what happened to them.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
At mister Floyd, I've talked to a lot of people
in this room sitting in the exact same seat that
you are right now.

Speaker 7 (26:47):
Kay.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
I try to be respectful to him, try to be
straight with 'em, but they always think that, you know,
lying is the best way. But I'm here to tell
you it is not because it won't look it makes
you look guilty.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
You talking about no it is I never used.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
A debit card.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Video says your full crap.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
You say that that's you.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Video shows you using a debit card, is what it is?

Speaker 5 (27:10):
You saying that this piece of this jacket didn't get
in your track can and you have no idea how
it is, but you agree that it's there under round
and I.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Can show you more and more and more.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Bo We're not gonna do that. Man, something happened between
you AND's thunder. I don't know whose fault it is.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I don't know if it came at you. I don't
know if you broke in your house in the middle
of the night and you had to defend yourself. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
But this is the only time we're gonna talk where
you get a chance to tell me what happened.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I do not know what happened to that man, so
uh honest, do not know what happened to that manister,
I do not know, no clue. I do not know
what happened to that manson.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
But we agree that we got some major issues his
body being across the streets in your house.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
We agree that you being on video using his credit
card and your credit card his credit card being in
your wallet is a big deal. We could agree that
the fact that the car got dumped right up the road.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
From his house where you don't that in you walk
back and you're captured on video going back towards your
house wearing that same yellow jacket, and we find a
piece of it in your garbage can we could agree
those are all problems.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Correct, Well, that's not my that's not me walking from
that car. Man. I ain't have it down call. I
ain't had that man call, So.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
I ain't have this call you not No.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I ain't got his call.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
You can sit here, you can say it's not you.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
But we can agree logically that's a big problem that
that guy on video, I could we have it goes back.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Towards your house walk in that direction.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
You went to my O that said towards your house? Okay?
Would you can agree that in it is it is
a saying is a chance that does not me?

Speaker 3 (28:41):
The fact that a piece of the jackets in your
trash says otherwise.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
Let me.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
I don't own none of that shit. I don't own
that no jacket like that. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Any other stuff in your trash can is yours?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
The beer bottles, the what was it?

Speaker 13 (28:59):
The yeah, your birth certificate on BIRSA titvs in them
your past stuff?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
I oh my past store pros? Why why you throw
away your paste? Does your birth certificate?

Speaker 7 (29:09):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I an court papers. You don't know why you throwing
that stuff up with my court papers? A way, court papers?
Why you doing that?

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Why you clean the house?

Speaker 8 (29:21):
No?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Good? Oh?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Wait you chitually he would throw away a birth certificate?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
I ain't even know. I thought my birth tiki was it?
What's that name? I throw up a real one? That's
a coppy? Oh it's a copy it.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
I don't keep check on the past stores though, But
a birth certificate, copy.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Count of trash? Bass? You get the one I get
from my own job. A colorade could do it. Yeah?
What do you keep you wa? What do you where
do you keep your trash in your house? I don't
have a trash can. Just put 'em in a bag. Yeah,
just throw a bag of trash. Just suck when you
take you when you when do you take your trash?

Speaker 13 (30:02):
And to cook the curve into the curb on the yeah,
from west side of the house, do you see feel
like that?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
But by by my own by the fence, my trash can.

Speaker 13 (30:15):
So it's not logical that somebody wouldn't close your trash can,
open up a trash bag and put something in it,
right and close it up now without you knowing about it.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
That that's not that's not logical directly. So when we
talk about this man in the Yellow Hood.

Speaker 14 (30:35):
Walking back to your house, towards your house wearing exact
same type of material, same type of clothing, and then
that ended up in a trash bag along side drill
documents that you agree that was in the trash wreck, right, how.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Do you explain that?

Speaker 13 (30:55):
I d I do I do know?

Speaker 5 (30:56):
When you learned you're a good buddy, Mr Spooter, dude,
you last spent the night at your house on.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Wednesday, and you saw all those police.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
In that yard.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
When you learned right on Tuesday night left Wednesday morning,
the guy just threw you a twenty dollars bill, bought
you some boy McDonald's, watched us some breakfast.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
He's a generous guy. And you and I had talked
and you learned that his body was found right across
the street, right. You didn't think to call me.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
You don't think to call the police and bud, Hey,
I know you were looking for him.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
He is over here just the other day. I should
have did that. Yeah, probably should have. Why didn't you?
I should have. Did you cared about him?

Speaker 3 (31:34):
He's your buddy, she's helping your house. Why would you
not pick up the phone?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I should have?

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Damn sure, you know what.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
You should have. I got his debit card. He was
over here.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Here's exactly what happened.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I know we talked the other day. He's my good friend.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Let's find out who got this guy.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
But that's not what did well. I should have did,
but you didn't. I ain't get to a car. I
ain't getting nothing for him. You know what nine one
one is?

Speaker 5 (31:53):
You know how to get the police right, Let's not
pretend it because you don't know how to get in
touch with the police.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Okay, I should have did that. You care about this
this man was in your house? You ain't. You ain't
put it down news by his.

Speaker 15 (32:05):
Name's hell money, don't don't throw it back on us.
But listen, though, man, you can't keep my door ahead toldren.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
Okay, you learn that the guy who's sleeping in your house,
the guy that's throwing you money, the guy that you're
standing up for, going all the way to these different places.
I mean, you're front for him for people you don't
even know, to defend him. So he's your friend, right,
You care about it, care about a lot.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Okay, so you guys care about each other.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
You care about him a lot.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
He's done stuff for you. You do stuff for him.
You're giving him clothing.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
You learn that the guy found across the street when
all the police are there working is your play and
you don't freaking call and you can't explain why, just
like you can't explain how you use this credit card?
Credit Cause I'm not gonna sit here and let you
line yourself.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
It's all this I've been. I've been y'all be people
know me all the time. Man, credit card?

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Sure, So you're saying the bank records a line his
credit card was used by you. You're saying the bank
records are wrong?

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Are that's what you're saying? Are you? Man? That's what
I'm saying. How do you think we.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Got that video a new wind to look because his
credit card was used? We didn't go look at that
video just because we didn't go through there and just
start looking at video and say, oh hey look, No,
it's because that's exact date, time and location his credit
card was used.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Good, So you're line, We know your line. Not nothing
about anything.

Speaker 8 (33:33):
Man.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I don't got none of none of you about. I
don't got nothing to from you, nothing at all at all.
I don't got nothing to hide from you.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
But you can't make sense of any of the things
that we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
You can't make sense.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
About the top of the yellow ray jacket being in
there and your trash can You can't make sense of.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
That you were using this credit card being caught over.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
You can't make sense of those things. So let's cut
to it.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
What happened between you and Spiller?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Nothing?

Speaker 7 (34:01):
Nothing, nothing, Nothing happened to ce me in John No
man left and I ain't see him no more.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
He took everything he had, yeah, he said everything. You
ain't have nothing except his delacad except difficult. Didn't tell
you debacat that's the only thing. That's just old thing.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
Yeah, Which that's crazy, cause that's like the most valuable
thing he's got, that's access to money.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
But listen to me, man, what would if hurt that
man for man? Why what?

Speaker 8 (34:26):
What?

Speaker 4 (34:26):
What?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
What more than would I do that for?

Speaker 9 (34:28):
Hold on?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
You come on to you. Hell no, we all already
got that stick. You got that person already got that
palled straight from the liokit did?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Did he get drunk one night and try something to
all games drunk?

Speaker 2 (34:39):
He don't drunk. He get doped up on this adderall
he trying it's pills. You didn't do nothing to me.
I didn't do nothing to him, And that's just what
you're going straight up, didn't you say?

Speaker 8 (34:52):
You?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Straight up to your eyes. Man, you can sit here
and we're gonna have a staring contest all day.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
I've been lied to you by people that is out
here and staring in my eyes. That don't mean nothing.
What means something is the stuff that we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
What it means something to me? You been you telling
me I kill somebody man? You telling me I kill
somebody man, And I ain't killed nobody to kill him
your house. I ain't killing nobody.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
So we ain't gonna find any evidence of that in
your house?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
What you mean?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
That's why I'm asked, can you we gonna find evidence of.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Him being killed in your house that I would think that.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
The first dnswer would be no, you will not find
any evidence that you No, you said.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
How how are you gonna do that?

Speaker 3 (35:29):
That's a difference. Are we gonna find evidence of him
getting killed in your house?

Speaker 8 (35:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
You sure are positive? Man, you put the rest of
your life on I ain't. I ain't what you mean.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
I go to the rest of my life.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I'm gonna give the rest of my life. Man. But
we're talking about him an here, nothing, man, I ain't
did nothing.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Man, you've been time before.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
You know what murder Tom is. Yeah, that's not doing
that time.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah, that's the rest of your life, Tom.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
I ain't gonta side for that, man, I ain't get nothing.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Less there's a reason, what reason for?

Speaker 8 (35:57):
What?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
A reason for what happened to him?

Speaker 9 (36:00):
It ain't no reason.

Speaker 15 (36:01):
I ain't doing nothing to him. We ain't got nothing
to do. We ain't got nothing. We ain't never had
no disagreement. Man, That was my dude, mister Foy.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Would you believe you?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, I believe me.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
No, No, no.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
If you were me, would you believe you what what
you mean?

Speaker 8 (36:15):
If you were the investigator, if you were a juror,
if you were somebody listening to this and having just
a little bit of evidence to showing your way and
heard you say these things and then looked at the evidence,
would you believe you?

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Would I believe that that you? Yeah, I ain't manin'
that's my questions change you.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
Ain't hold on man.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
The thing about it, the whole thing about that is
the man being across the street from my house.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Man also seeing where the dead guy's hat.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
You're also saying, wearing his hat, his beady cash. You
said he took every bit of his position, but his
different card. How did you end up with his hat?
Lem Me show that to you.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
I got a curse.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I got that, Yeah, I got it. How do you?
How do you? How do you explain that that's another place?

Speaker 7 (36:59):
That's what it is?

Speaker 8 (36:59):
That that that.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
I don't even got to that no more. I guess what.
That's convenient. That's just one the other day. Why are
you gonna throw away a nice act like that, mister Floyd?
Why would you get rid of something like that? It's
a nice beanie cap. How do you get rid of it?
Because it wasn't in your trash what you do to it,
it must have been out then must be it might be,

(37:23):
might be. So if we don't find it, what happened
to it? That's a nice beanie. It was cold the
other night.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Man, we ain't talking weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Let me see the other picture that got which one
that's dropping across that's about you?

Speaker 7 (37:37):
No, he said, this is him?

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Jerry said, that's him.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
You see shot pass that. You got a picture that?

Speaker 7 (37:45):
Uh yeah, I thought I did.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
I don't know what the crap I deal with it?

Speaker 2 (37:50):
There you go?

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I mean if we get pretty figures on David.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I thought, shoes on that man? Oh he's what kind
of shoes we find you? Yeah, you're doing it so
they convened conveniently have the same color shoes you got on.
He's wearing whtelines This hat end.

Speaker 16 (38:08):
Up in your house, in your trash can you taking
short up? You said you take the trash up. You
end up with a dead guy's different card using the
dead guys hat at this?

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Doore this not me? Man? Right? It won't it won't?
Your phone out on track with that guy.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Shoes look the same pats look the same high found
in your trash can walking towards your house.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Here you are using his debt card you got on
his hat. Pists look the same, shoes look the same,
they are the same.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
That's you. That's not me. This mean that's nothing me
this me, that's nothing. I spend cash up. I ain't
spend his card though I ain't putting nothing off? Is
called this nothing? You ever had a skeech, I don't
go to ske You're right, you're right his phone, you're
going to quick that's that. Uh, that's yeah.

Speaker 17 (39:13):
If you didn't do this, if you don't do an
you don't name the pictures you seen all the stuff
that they're throwing in your way.

Speaker 7 (39:24):
You know what I'm saying, And.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
Everything is looking against you at this point? Would you
would you agree? I mean, I I I'm I'm just
would you agree it? It didn't I just don't look
just looking pouring towards you.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Alright, But look here, man, you got.

Speaker 18 (39:54):
You didn't you saying you didn't you go to car
and all the other stuff and that stuff didn't play
well when you I get where you coming from.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Man, these guys dead, they sain't you use hard for
what you gonna say?

Speaker 18 (40:03):
No, I didn't use it, But I need something to
show that truth telling the truth about something. Man, to
tell me this, man, you gotta give me something, something
that's truthful. Man, so I can get these guys to
play like, Hey, like the hard thing, man, did you.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Use his hard Just be honest with me. That's a
that's something small man, that's something.

Speaker 18 (40:25):
We can get past. We talking about a hard thing.
Whether you kill us somebody and be honest with men
or right?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Man?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
See, I don't wanna make myself look bad man. How
you how what's the worse we knowing it?

Speaker 8 (40:48):
Like?

Speaker 2 (40:48):
What else is he learning about? That's That's what I'm saying. Also,
tell be honest with you, okay, man, this I love
that man.

Speaker 7 (40:56):
Man definitely difficult man, he do what he definitely difficult me.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
He dropped out at the boys.

Speaker 7 (41:01):
I see him.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
I bought some new boys, I bought some new Ports,
I bought some props. What about the probably you know
that's gonna be your test? Right here? Where'd you buy
it from? Family dollar?

Speaker 7 (41:25):
My family dollar?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Wanna right shirt? Up street from your house? Yeah?

Speaker 14 (41:27):
Sir?

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Alright, chr. How'd you get a walk? Kay?

Speaker 7 (41:37):
H'm trying.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
See That's what I'm saying, man, that's something smart. We
knew that we got the receipt about them. We got
the camera, the.

Speaker 18 (41:45):
Camera show all that together. That's how we got to work.
That's what I'm saying. We not telling you stuff we
don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Man.

Speaker 7 (41:50):
I walked though, kayah, would your buysel?

Speaker 2 (41:56):
All by myself? Yeah? So after that, where else did
you use it?

Speaker 8 (42:03):
Or?

Speaker 2 (42:04):
No world?

Speaker 8 (42:05):
No world?

Speaker 2 (42:06):
So so that was all the time on the time.
What makes you use it that day? Cause I ain't
have no care if I'll get money, there is day
to throw her for my cheek?

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:19):
And what day was that used? Called? Thursday? E A
Wednesday night or Thursday? It was the same night, uh,
this night.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
Cause I ain't here from man?

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Oh it right?

Speaker 8 (42:35):
Man?

Speaker 2 (42:35):
But I seen when I when I know what that
was spoiling on U.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Man.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
I said to call that man.

Speaker 7 (42:39):
Man, I say, hey, man, listen, man, that's my friend.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Man. Why ain't you call I ain't a real I
just ain't wanna get in the middle of it. How
you been feeling, man? I been feeling. Yeah, I been
alright since you found out, since I found out you
who did Yeah? Shit crazy man? Talk to that shit crazy?

(43:02):
What your name? Shit crazy?

Speaker 8 (43:07):
Man?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Mayn't want to say no shit like that? Man, for real.
I ain't right. That's not right, man? Are you thinking
went wrong? E?

Speaker 7 (43:34):
The two things?

Speaker 2 (43:35):
What's up?

Speaker 7 (43:37):
Either you try to sell them bill or somebody and
they took a back to them, or.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Think you can try to sell the pills and they
took the band on or what else.

Speaker 7 (43:48):
Or you try somebody while you had on more massage
or so.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
To my trip rob or so.

Speaker 7 (43:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
That's another honestite thing, man, I gotta ask you. That's
something now, I need you to be honest with me, man.
That's what you kN like I'm saying. I'm tryna. I
don't want you to get railroaded or nothing like that.
That's a you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 18 (44:10):
That's a if it was a reasons things happened or
something happened that wouldn't somebody you know, if it anything
that happened or I want you to be honest with
you man, or was it that.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Learning about simple stuff? You may be trouble. I understand
you get that. It's a how did you end what
this happened?

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Man?

Speaker 2 (44:30):
With that the little beanie hat, I don't don't don't
search for.

Speaker 18 (44:40):
Und about from me, man, I ain't sell it from no, nothing,
But man, that's a that's a simple question.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Man. Shit.

Speaker 18 (44:46):
Uh as if I ask you where you get your
shoes from, you gonna tell me. If I ask you,
just like I said, Hey, where you get your new
ports from? You gonna tell you just the old way.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Man, Just tell me. Yeah, how'd you end? What is happened? Ask?
Could I help to?

Speaker 8 (44:56):
Why was this? It was?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
When one? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (45:00):
Man, cause I don't got no you know, I got
a fade, Man, I gotta fade something like this.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Listen, listen, listen this that's right. It say early you
see the problems you have when see a lot just
move went to the store. We went to the store
on you cercrecated of Wanning. You had that hood on.
I said, not like that hood man? You say, yeah,

(45:28):
that was it you see I had. But when I
ask you quite earlier, you said you didn't know. Man,
how come all the set?

Speaker 8 (45:39):
Now? You know?

Speaker 2 (45:43):
You see the problem with that? Man. That's why I
say the little lines meet big problems. That's a cause
now you're making a big problem just because you told
about a lot earlier. You're right this sit.

Speaker 18 (45:55):
But that's why you Uh, that's still a lot of stuff, man, hum,
that's clear up a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Now they'll do it. What happened? I don't know what
appen to that man. I honestly don't know what happen
to that man. S I honestly don't know man. The
the last time I see it, I man, the man
was leaving out my house talking to his co Roger
Man on the phone where his coroper sir. And he

(46:21):
never made it work, you know, I don't know what
he may.

Speaker 7 (46:26):
Never contacted you over with you.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
I ain't talk to him no more. Went out of
my side though, gotten their car though, I'll sleep on myself.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
You try to find out. I try to find out
what happens to n I don't know what number.

Speaker 7 (46:45):
The only thing I can do is the only thing
I can do, what his mischagef The only thing I
can do it m I ask her why you you know.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
I'a telling you I'm just talking to him, man. I'll
ask him that what's up?

Speaker 17 (46:54):
MM?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
That one nuts?

Speaker 19 (46:55):
Really he'll teach me. It's obviously called out. Cause y'all
bed friends, y'all look up for each other. You can
put your life on the line. Or but twice, yeah, twice,
I can see that man.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Twice. What happened? I don't know. I really don't know
what step manter.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
You remember, mister Floyd, I I can appreciate you talking
to investigator Ridget's Curtis over here and be astray with
a credit card, cause that made me think you were
a liar, and reasons suggests if you're gonna lie out

(47:53):
some little small and using me as a credit card,
you line all the way up to the murder, But
you'd be as straight about it. And I can appreciate it,
and I can understand why, cause you know how it look.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
You no bad man? It looked bad. But I ain't
know what that mean ever did sir so? But I
alway said, I said, thank you. I appreciate you to
being honest with us. Causeternal wants.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Wait, I can see they go, maybe he's being straight
about something, you know what I mean, cause we we
gotta we gotta solve this thing.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
So that especially he's seen is with you at your house.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
By you f me?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
What happened to him? I don't know, say did he
ever take his phone anyway? Now? Yuh? He took his
from network? Why I never left your house? Huh? Why
his phone never left your house. H Why did his
phone go die at your house? He died out loud?

(48:57):
It got turned out at your house. Wow, that's a
good question, because he walked out of the door talking
to him. Really, Yes, sir, did you go out the
door by myself? Yeah? And you had the phone. He
was talking on it.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
He was talking to a core work. When your all
that with the phone with the phone, Yes, sir, you
sure I bother't so the phone coming to line, the
phone coming down?

Speaker 20 (49:33):
Yeah, what you mean because his phone turned off from
their company at your house?

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Explained that. What you want me to say, I'm asking.
I'm asking.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
You're the one that was there.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
We need your help. What you want me to say,
I don't. I don't know nobody's phone.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
You said that about his debit card, But I don't
know nobody's fault.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Say he was the avid user of his phone.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
He's walking out the door talking, he's somebody walking. He
walk hard and starts up, he pulls back, he leaves.
You watch you actually see.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
The carpel off? Oh okay, but he's.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Done the car.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I didn't wa I didn't actually watch it, cause I
tell you I live man, Donald want this up soup.
But he leaves.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
But he's one walking up the door talking on the phone.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, he was asking you, asking the covers. Did she want?
Do you want? Hutr?

Speaker 5 (50:18):
I do you did?

Speaker 3 (50:19):
You didn't find his phone on your property like you
found his debit card.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
He took off. He left right right his phone, hund
and they sit to your house. Don't leave him what
it doesn't mean buy his round across the street at
a vacant house. I'll tell you what I think happened. Man,

(50:45):
I think spoony y'all almost at its man to what
I think spoon gall on those ads. He got his ship.

Speaker 7 (51:01):
He feeling good as good as he normally feeling.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Hey, come on, tell him the'll go to the store.
Let me do something for you.

Speaker 14 (51:12):
Go to the store, buy you a couple of things,
throw a couple of dollars. You away, come back to
the house. You lay down, Yeah, I mean you get
your food.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
He laid down. It's suppolna come out happy like he
always did on his addies.

Speaker 7 (51:33):
Feeling good.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
At this point, you feel comfortable, and you giving yourself.
You let him stay there.

Speaker 21 (51:41):
He he got feelings towards that at this point, and
then he get the courage. Maybe he touch it, maybe
he feel made you feel a someth a way. Maybe
maybe he said something. Obviously you ain't with that. He

(52:02):
shouldn't know that about that and things he got out
of hand.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Nah, that ain't what episit? For one, he ain't had
no edit back then he said, you didn't know if
he did or not. He ain't had no again, he
can't finish the script yet. But then you know if
he had something now, h like you right, I don't
know if he had no, but I know he wasn't.
He didn't approach me in that kind of way.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
He didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
He didn't approach me in a that kind of way.
But he did something. He ain't do nothing to me,
cause I mean if he ever, if he did something, man,
maybe it's not a murdered man. No he'll or no.
We ain't need finna get in that conversation period. Hell know,
I ain't put my hand. I ain't never do it.
None of that. Man. Man didn't nothing to do. You know, sir,

(52:52):
it's time to pick you up? Uh? What time we
pick you up? At six? Pot?

Speaker 8 (52:57):
Now?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Really it's been a while, yea. It was the job's warm, though,
go it in. What's you think that he did that
search on him? Cause you think they been doing searching,
search every sin. They founded your house at thirty eight?

(53:18):
That see what I'm saying. That's why I say, cause
I asked her, man, you didn't shoot him? Hell no,
I ain't shoot him. Of course you didn't. We know,
we would have known. We would have told you that
you woulda killed him. You was shot to kill You
didn't wanna kill him.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
You didn't expect you.

Speaker 12 (53:31):
You you thought you was a good guy to you.
You you didn't wanna kill him. Let me tell you
how I know you didn't wanna kill him. Cause anything
you it was doing this is messy. It wasn't even
a good in your house, ye, stuff in your trash,
you using this car, This is messy.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
You didn't try to do this. You didn't plan to
do this. I didn't do it. Kills you, alright, I
told you earlier. I like pictures that else this out
a little bit. So you tell me you did nothing?
You did nothing? Well, I don't that.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
That's him as we found him, just so you have
an idea what so?

Speaker 5 (54:16):
But your house, you recognize that couch that's your couch, right,
that's where you played, right.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yeah, you see something missing on the couch.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Something looked a little different. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
You see that red stuff right there, soaked into the phone,
beneath the fabric, stuff that you can't clean.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah, what do you think that is? What do you
think it is? You tell me what's the lab.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
I'm gonna tell us that is.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
What's her test they're doing? You're gonna tell us that is.
You don't know, you don't think you know what happened? Man,
I don't know, man, what is that? No, man, you
don't know. Something that's red on your couch and phone.
That's where Spooner die.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
I know that's where Spooner died. You gotta move your
couch if you gonna clean brou what's that? It's a
closer of what's that?

Speaker 2 (55:14):
What's that?

Speaker 5 (55:15):
Man?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
What's that right there? The big red sting? What is that?
That's what I'm saying, man, this is missing? What is that? Up?

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Grape juice?

Speaker 2 (55:29):
It's not wine? This is your chance, mister Floyd. Now
I don't getting a cigarette? Yeah? Good up?

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Fo you want a cigarette?

Speaker 2 (55:40):
You got th man? I want cigarette?

Speaker 7 (55:43):
What cut cigarette?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
You want? You new la her mom, No what you
want Newport Newporter? Alright, you're coming up. You rock on

(56:16):
a sigarette man, what happens? Hook at this en? What happened?
He wrote on a sigarette man, What happened? That's what

(56:42):
I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (56:42):
Man.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
If it was a assert if kill me something good?
What is man? What good?

Speaker 8 (56:58):
Is?

Speaker 14 (56:58):
Good?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Stood everywhere? You didn't leave him out there cold? You
wrapped him up. You was hoping somebody find me. But

(57:20):
just tell us what happened now.

Speaker 17 (57:24):
You don't wanna look like the cold good y'all have
just left him out there to cold somebody that cared
about you? Did he invade your space? Did he come
on to you when you were He obviously told me
more than one time that it wasn't right that.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
And I told you, man, little King's great good problems,
Come on to just give it to me straight. Man.

(58:09):
You had every opportunity, I mean, you could have. You
you didn't wanna kill him. You He did everything he
could for you. You could have shot Hi with a gun,
but it's not what you wanted to do. You didn't
intend to do that.

Speaker 8 (58:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
I don't believe that. I don't believe you intend to do.

Speaker 22 (58:36):
That, and you didn't go and hide him, You didn't
get rid of him, You didn't do any of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
He did a decent thing. Ah. Those the same trash
rasids in your house that wanna say it? Hm?

Speaker 23 (59:05):
Those not the same trash reps man, man, ground like
that man, you worked for you? What tell me what happened?

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Started wrestling?

Speaker 14 (59:26):
Man?

Speaker 2 (59:29):
I wasn't a down man. I love I see it man,
and shit, what happened?

Speaker 7 (59:38):
I ain't know?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Happen? My boy?

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Man?

Speaker 20 (59:39):
Here?

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Man, how'd you do it? Picked him up?

Speaker 8 (59:48):
Then?

Speaker 2 (59:49):
W damn heat up? Man?

Speaker 7 (59:53):
You don't happen?

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Then you far right?

Speaker 8 (01:00:00):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Let's see it right man, M trying to get you something.
Get me once up. Man. We can't smoke for that.
Somebody gonna get it, man, That's why I wanted to
tell him. I canna get it. Tell him to tell
him what happened?

Speaker 20 (01:00:15):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
So he hits the head on the heat. Did he
start bleeding? What happened? You feel right though? Man? Old
my soup? Yeah? I had to fight him. Man. He

(01:00:39):
got back up, He got me back up, man, and
then routed a helmet. Man. Here, man, teach you what
happened where you get your put it on the foot

(01:00:59):
down there with him. Then I got about min that's it.
And then what happened?

Speaker 7 (01:01:10):
Not rather I hear him where you hear him?

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
And yeah, where the hammer at?

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Man? I ain't intentionally try to do that to that
bad and that's what we're tryna. So you gotta tell
I tell I. That's why I told you. You gotta
be honest. I ain't intentionally try to do that to
that band.

Speaker 14 (01:01:34):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:01:35):
What shit?

Speaker 20 (01:01:36):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
He evenly eave me no damn choice man. Yeah, I
mean he knew you wouldn't die for that. He ain't
really leave me no damn choice, man. So where did
you put the hammer? It stood up? Huh? So what
happened after clean it? Yeah? What happened after? What happened?

(01:02:00):
What day did this happen on? It happened on Wednesday?
He never left it, that's he never left your house
after you. So it's happened on Wednesday. So what so
he's is he he down on your Florida writer?

Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
When I was freaked up, man, And what you do?
I freak man?

Speaker 7 (01:02:30):
Damn man? I man, but I ain't asked for that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
I know it. It's in your lap now and you
gotta deal with it. You j he he he he
hit you, I handled. I ain't asked for that ship. Yeah,
so what you said you did? Man? I told you
from the beginning, this is your chance. Told us what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
We wasn't there, man, he knot it down.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I don't remember my damn foot.

Speaker 9 (01:02:54):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
The man really grabbed you grabbed me, man, and mean, well,
I don't know what gonna appear.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
He was home. How did you do that? Did you
lay it down?

Speaker 18 (01:03:05):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Oh my souf? Usual lay down on so far that?
Uh huh? How to grab your you reach.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
In your pants.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
She walked up to me and just poem, that's shit
on the outside of your pants. Yeah, I say, poems
you on the outside.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Yeah, he said anything first?

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Wow? Uh what happened before he did that? Were you
eating your food? Hit my food? Is he coming on
your home? What's going on? Uh huh? He wasn't coming on.
Was he eating his food? He didn't had no food? Okay,
so you all the foods for you? Yeah. He said
he was gonna go get his own ship. So he
waited till you laid down. Yeah. So after you guys fighting,

(01:03:46):
y'all tussle.

Speaker 8 (01:03:49):
What do you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
He goes unconscious? What do you do with it? Oh?
I just freakout? What did you do with you? How
did you? What did you? What did you put him?
He was saying, all down kitchen? You let him in
the kitchen? Did you wrap him up.

Speaker 8 (01:04:09):
Like this?

Speaker 7 (01:04:09):
I put something under the head so it wouldn't start bleeding.
I should have just called him on police.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Yeah. Is that the postic gag you put on saving? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:04:17):
I should have called a police, but I have. I
I ain't put it all his nose. I just put it,
but the wounds that so I won't believe like that.
I should have just called a police man, but I
I I see it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Damn man, I don't hit that man. Now, I'm a man.
I don't wanna real fund of the man. They gonna
take my rob even though this man don't hit me. Yeah,
I mean you right, don't look good.

Speaker 7 (01:04:40):
He hit me with a damn helmet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Let let's talk about what else you do do 'em?
You ever try to light him on fire? Hell no?

Speaker 7 (01:04:50):
Hell no?

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
So what that's sevagen? Uh? Huh? What what when you
wrap 'em? When he came in the living room and
you he pawned you y'all fight. He end up going
to a conscious in the bleak. Ruh. You pulled him
into the kitchen? Yeah, when do you wrap him up?

(01:05:19):
Went past all the other stuff? Now you you you
had to you.

Speaker 24 (01:05:23):
You said he had a reason to do it cause
he hit you. Man said me, what happened next? Did
you put your glugs on? He wrapped his head up,
so the glove when you deal withhere?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Yes, he gonna pull him in the kitchen. What happened next?
I sat man, I sat down man cause the band
I was in shock, man, and this is all Wednesday

(01:06:13):
cause I was in shock.

Speaker 20 (01:06:14):
Brun Yeah, yeah, I don't even ask for that, man,
I know you just trying to take care of your friend, know,
putting you in a bad situation. How much time you
think you hit it? Did you just a black house

(01:06:34):
or no, I ain't a black guy. Hit about full time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Both sides of the helmut as one mm the close sandwiches.
You put that hand, the hands up people grabbing me?

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Yeah? Where you hit in my.

Speaker 20 (01:06:51):
Back of the head, in front of the head, I
don't know. Yeah, sow suerous thing you said you read
the ones who know? Yeah, how did you not sorry

(01:07:14):
about to think of it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:18):
Is?

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Thank you, but.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
I wish you the best man. I way telling you
know why.

Speaker 7 (01:07:27):
You're gray and insist out you back then, so.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Ah, I wish it would not know what have be
good at.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
I knew you cared about him then I know I
could see it in your eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
I guess it is in your heart. You bought it
is to be bad and we're gonna tell it as
you said it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
We just don't get I mean I eventually I'm gonna say,
I'm gonna calls station's office, present everything to him, tell
him what.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
You told us.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
It's here's the following decision maker.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
But you have seen it for me me he used
some food you just sir, kay, you can do seek
used to so leave never see for me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Thank you, sir. You're welcome.

Speaker 25 (01:08:10):
Hey man, Yes, I'm put you. I'ma put your uh
yoh no, sir, I reb more so I wo it
saying cold bloody man octomber. I whoo, I mean man,
make sure you tell 'em that man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
I whoop, but that maybe them call me back here.
We do have a conversation, and how did yourself lead?
Now you've listen now go to your fing