September 22, 2025 • 60 mins
Truth with J.J. Carrell EP216 Left vs Right: Clash of Values in America
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Massive human trafficking is a record two hundred and eighty
people arrested.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
They're not recording the real numbers.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
The numbers are segmented and they are fictitious. I started
my career in nineteen ninety seventy the United States bar Patrol.
It was one of the most violent times in recent
borgtual history. I made my bones and my reputation on
that border. I believe what is happening on the border
today is intentional. We have people in the United States
of America that breed children in order to sell them.
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Our own government is facilitating the absolute destruction of the
American immigration system, and I could prove it point by point.
I'm unafraid to speak the truth. This is just data
driven and experienced driven.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Carlin Brisaco is an undercover investigative journalists for Decode the
Left who's infiltrated these terrorselves. Carlin, tell me about how
these people train. They look pretty militaristic.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
They do have sessions where they bring in people with
military exper Anti war is a very big thing for Antifa,
so they do hand to hand combat trainings. I was
just undercover with them in New York City over the
weekend where they had a whole self defense class where
they were teaching people how to violently, you know, confront
the police, but also defend themselves if they needed to
be put in that position.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And why do they always get out of jail so quickly?
You see all these people get popped, They get bailed
right out and charges never stick.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
How is that? Well?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Antifa actually they train people on how to get arrested.
And it's interesting with far left subcultures because they actually
volunteer to get arrested and go through this type of
training where they are provided legal support, they are provided lawyers,
they are provided all of this stuff with mutual aid,
and so as soon as they get arrested, Antifa basically
goes down to the jail and they build them out
and they are all set up with a lawyer and
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ready to go. So they plan all of this stuff
out ahead of time, and they have the resources set
up for people to be able to be taken care of.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, I mean obviously someone's paying for their legal representation.
What is the core mission of Antifa? Is it anarchy?
Are they anarchists?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Antifa or anarchists. Their primary goal is the violent overthrow
of the federal government. I cannot emphasize this enough. You know,
we've been hearing a lot of talk about civil war
over the last couple of years between Democrats and Republicans
read versus Blue. I firmly believe that the real civil
war we have coming is the radical revolutionary socialist and
communists in Antifa versus the federal government. That is their goal,
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that is their only goal, and people need to start
taking this problem very, very seriously.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Who funds Antifa, great question.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
So the way they organize is they're so decentralized and
diffused that there's not one person at the top who's funding. Again,
I go back to the radical Islam and jihadis model.
There's no single person who's funding Jahadism.
Speaker 8 (02:53):
Around the world. You have many, many funders.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
I'll just speak to the strongest e an ince I've
seen from the twenty two twenty riots. You know, millions
of dollars were raised for these bail funds in legal aid,
and that all came through campaigns that were put online
and then people donated anonymously and these were shared. The
links were shared on Twitter and across Reddit and social media,
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and it was a lot of people contributed money, So
that's one one level you click at. Another thing is
that there are various registered actual nonprofits that work in
the Antifa apparatus, and some of these nonprofits get grant
money from the state. It happens in the state of Oregon.
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There are Antifa lego.
Speaker 8 (03:45):
Groups legal groups that explicitly exist to provide free legal
aid to violent felony suspects accused of anti.
Speaker 9 (04:18):
For good, it's gonna be to find out the source.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Of this, well, you're gonna have to infiltrate Antifa, So
you're gonna have to have some sort of transgender FBI
agent go under cover for a while. I don't know
if they have that at the Bureau. It's a great movie,
but they could try it. They've been causing violence in
Mayhem for a long time and everyone's treated them like
a little nuisance.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
But they have to be treated seriously.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
They shot and killed someone out West, they shot a cop.
They've punched people in the throats. They've fired commercial grade
fireworks in the faces of federal law enforcement.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
They laid siege to a federal courthouse.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
They occupy courthouses, they bomb cop cars, they bomb teslas.
They're not very nice people. It's not like they're doing
this for healthcare reform. They want to overthrow the federal government.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
That's an anarchist. An anarchists in.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Our history, they've assassinated presidents, They fire bombed the townhouses
of attorney generals.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
You got to take these guys seriously.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Joe Biden took the threat of white supremacists domestic terrorist
seriously and investigated them. Surely we can investigate the domestic
terror threat for Mantifa because the money is suspicious. Where
do they get the body armor? Why do they always
have the best equipment and technology. Why do they look
all tacked out constantly? And then when they get arrested,
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they have bail money and the best lawyers so they
never ever face any charges.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Who's paying the lawyers? That's what I want to know.
You bring up some interesting points.
Speaker 9 (06:01):
I mean, also, Emily, I mean a lot of people
thinking that.
Speaker 10 (06:05):
That's the other thing.
Speaker 11 (06:05):
They have signs and the role professionally made real protesters
make them in their basement, and the role.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The same is behind it. Do you have a guy
you know you hear sorrows? I don't know.
Speaker 11 (06:15):
We're going to find out if he's behind it. But
it's incitement to riot. That's a criminal act, and people
are dying because of it, so it's really you know,
it's death.
Speaker 10 (06:26):
So we're gonna we're.
Speaker 11 (06:27):
Gonna find out and it should have been done a
long time ago.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Welcome to truth with JJ Carroll. Antifa and why have
they been allowed to just fester? Well, it's just like
anything else that's happened in America. There is no law
and order, there's no justice. The Democrats have fed this beast.
They put in all of the judges, sorrols based judges,
sorols based das prosecutors. So people are saying, well, how's
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Antifa getting out? They're they're violently punching police officers. Well,
that's a fet that's not a misdemeanor, it's a state
and federal felony.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
It's a felony. So how are they getting released.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, they're getting released because the DA's and the prosecutors
are not prosecuting them.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
There's this case.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Dismissed or or uh in the in the best of
of of judicial law enforcement, where we're dismissed in the case,
And well, how's that happening? Well, because you have no
judges that are rooted in the constitution. You have activists. Heck,
we've showed last week. You have judges in America that
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don't haven't even passed the bar. They're like gardeners. There's
I think she'd be great. She's a person of color.
Throw her in the judge, put a black robe on her. Okay,
das prosecutors, I dealt with you as attorneys my whole career.
I'm telling you, without a shadow of a doubt, there's
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two things that that are at happen.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
In law enforcement and the judicial system.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
One, the judicial system is corrupt to the core, corrupt
to the core.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Period.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
The second thing that's problem with attorneys and excuse me
DA's and US attorneys, even the good ones, the good
ones that want to do good and do what's righteous,
there's not.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Enough of them. They're overwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Their cases are stacked, so they have to continue to
make plea deals. Why don't we have US attorneys that
are just bored, meaning we have so many of them,
they're just like, gosh, can somebody give me a case
please that I can investigate.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Oh, we're so we're so good now at prosecuting.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
We have so many people, we're going to now dig
into corruption. Oh, that's why you don't have enough federal
prosecutors US attorneys because there's so much crime. If they
start digging and digging and digging with their unlimited resources,
they're going to find massive, massive amounts of crime at
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the elite level. Now, Antifa, how do you get funding?
How do you do you think that these are little
soy boys which they are are coming together in some
community basement and coming up with plans, defensive tactic training.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
They're pulled all their.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Little money from mommy and daddy and got high paying
attorneys to be on the retainer for them. Do you
think they got shields and masks and bricks and smoke grenades?
You think they cobble together their pennies for that. This
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needs to be investigated immediately. I've heard Donald Trump say
these are rico charges against George Soterls. Why has it
taken decades to get to this point? Maybe that's a question.
Do I applaud Donald Trump for even talking about it?
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
But I want some action.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I just want some action, meaning I want some arrest
and we're not going to get any you know it
as well as I We're in month going in month
ten of this administration and we don't have an arrest.
We have treason from the last administration. We have absolute
corruption at the Social Security Administration. DOGE has shown that
that NGOs have been used to funnel money back to politicians.
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Not one politician's been arrested. I'm going to show you
elon Omar. Elon Omar is going into church, into churches
and saying that Charlie Kirk was a mental patient, he
was a hateful person, he deserved to die. We have
elon Omar talking about how everything is about Somalia. I
have to get Samalia everything they need. Already shown without
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a shadow of doubt that she committed marriage fraud. That's
a felony. She's not been arrested. We have illegal aliens
in the in the power structure of our politics. Nobody
does anything we have. We have congressional hearing after congressional
hearing after congressional hearing, and nothing gets done. We're just
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told by the the the head of FBI Cash Hotel,
that Jeffrey Epstein just had children trafficked to him and
he he just had sex with thousands of underage children.
His appetite is sexual appetite was so grotesque that it
was just for him, even though women, now adult women,
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were on the steps of the Congress saying out loud,
I have evidence. I've already proven, Yes, I was trafficked
to Jeffrey Epstein. He trafficked me to the Prince and
and Clinton. I had uh, miss miss Hope Greena on
on a vault interview. I'm going to show you a
clip later today that said yes, I was traffic to Epstein.
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Epstein then trafficked me to the Clintons, Obamas, and Biden's,
just to name a few of the hundreds of not
thousands of people that raped her throughout several decades. But
no cash, hotel, we have nothing.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
We live in a.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Lawless world, void of any kind of justice. Look, I'm
not some some dude that just got a podcast and
I'm now talking about law and order. And I was
a guy that lived it, ran task forces, had US
attorneys attached to my task forces. I know exactly how
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all this works, all of it. I know immigration policy
and law inside and out. I understand how local law
enforcement works, sheriff's police, federal agencies.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I understand it all.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I'm telling you without a shadow of a doubt that
we live in the most lawless societ in American history period.
Some would say, well the wild West was what. No, No,
there was justice in the wild West. You stole my horses,
You were a horse thief, you got killed. You raped
the woman, we hung you, you killed somebody, you were killed.
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I'm going to show you two clips real quick, just
to drive home this point that the war that we're
in in America is on all fronts and it is
being funded by people that hate America, that are Americans,
that are legal immigrants, that are illegal immigrants in America.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Here's the first one.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Please play clip six, just to where's the riot shields
coming from? Watch this and think that it's not being funded,
you have to be a complete moron.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
Earlier of the day where you have the different organizations
that are backing some of these protests. This is more
she said, organic, And maybe that's what you're seeing there.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
I'm hoping that is.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
That's where are those boxes?
Speaker 9 (14:00):
Are those masks some sorts that doesn't look like food.
Speaker 10 (14:06):
Looks like yeah, those are masks.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Yeah, so people.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Are I want you to understand those masks, those were
gas masks.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
A couple hundred bucks a pop. Let's just say one
hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Let's just say they got them a wholesale whatever damage
mask for sale at the local Antifa American hating shop
down in Portland. Okay, you got one hundred dollars. There
was about one hundred of them there.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
That was just one.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And then you have pallets of bricks dropped off throughout
Los Angeles and Portland or wherever they're doing this. That
was in LA during the illegal alien deal.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Do you know the coordination it takes to drop off
pallettes of bricks. You're not driving around in your Chevy
pickup with you know, several tons of bricks and then
you just drop them off. It has to come in
a flatbed. There has to be a forklift that take
it off the flatbed and put it in the middle
of the street. That takes coordination and effort and money.
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Here's another one, number seven. Please show this one.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Please.
Speaker 10 (15:19):
Earlier of the day where you have these.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Logan.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Can you see if it's number six? Can you can
you play number six? I don't know if I have
the same one I do. I'm sorry, but so my
next one that was going to show you. It was
exactly the same as the mask. And they were just
handing out shields, shields like riot gear, shields like police
officers have. Where did they get those who coordinating it,
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who bought it, who delivered them? This is a conspiracy,
And again, where's the US attorneys, where's the DJ where?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Look?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I had this conversation with my wife the other night.
She says to me, I was very frustrated. We were
talking and I just threw my hands up and I said,
just there's just no justice, sweetheart. I'm I've had it.
And she said, well, what would you do? And I said,
I would do so much different. I'd be so aggressive,
I'd be so transparent all the time I would have
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I would have the DOJ, through the FBI, through the
the uh ATF, through the BORD Patrol, through HSI, through
all of those. I would have specialized groups, specialized groups
of guys that focus solely on a certain.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Problem.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Antifa. I want FBI, I want ATF, I want all
that because they're they're trafficking guns and arm armaments everything
I want. I want a unit, a big unit. I
want it UH and I want to take it down
as fast as we can not long term. I have
a long Everything has a long term investigation. But I
want I want absolute arrest happen at an unprecedented rate
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because that has to happen that we cannot wait.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
What are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Have a long When you talk about a long investigation,
we're talking eighteen months.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Two years, three years, five years.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Do you have eighteen months left in America to tolerate
this anymore? And the answer is no, you don't.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You just don't. We don't. So I would have specialized units.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I would already had a unit that just nothing but
traffic determine where these children are. Tom Holman says they
found twenty five thousand children in horrible conditions, working long hours.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Children, twenty five thousand.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
There was over five hundred fifty thousand children that were
trafficked into America. We can't find twenty five work found
great job, Tom Homan.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Not enough.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
We're deporting seven hundred and fifty people a day. Seven
hundred and fifty people a day. That's not enough. There's
fifty million people in America that are illegal aliens. Would
have an absolute army of soldiers working and assigned to
HSI and Bord Patrol and DHS to find every single
legal alien and they.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Would be eradicated. You think that would be a start.
Do you think we could start there?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I want every politician everyone, I want a new immediately,
it's demanded, demanded executive order. I need everybody's financials, everyone's financials.
And then I want investigators assigned, multiple investigators assigned to
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every single politician. A forensic financial analyst is going to
dig through all of your stuff, and we're going to
find out if you're a leg if you're came here
legally or illegally, and you're going to be removed. Well, jaju,
that's insane that that you can't do that. Wait a minute.
The most violent nation on planet Earth five years ago
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was El Salvador. The most corrupt everything you can imagine.
And what did the president of El Salvador do? He goes,
I'm included in this. Everyone is going to be investigated, period, judges, politicians,
and he started throwing him in jail. Oh you took money, Okay,
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how did you get this million dollars? It just and
literally this is what our politicians have said. Well, I
don't know, it's just got in my account have you
ever had a million dollars to show up in your account?
You're just there on a Friday looking at your account,
how much.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Money I have?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
And oh my gosh, I got a million dollars. I
don't know where it came from. All right, hallelujah, let's
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Speaker 4 (20:19):
No, no, no, this is a treat. She's gonna digest this.
He's a plastic This is a treat. The same thing
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Speaker 3 (20:29):
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Speaker 4 (21:21):
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JJ two four seven dot com. I want to bring
my guests in and I'm holding this book right here,
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Charity for Sale. I've read a book cover to cover,
loved it. I let me just hold up there. Everyone
go get Charity for Sale. You want to understand what
happened to the Catholic Church. You want to understand how
the NGO's Catholic charities. You want to understand how the
Catholic bishops have played a role in the destruction of America.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I'm Catholic. I take time, had to stop. I can't.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I just like I knew it, right, I knew the
majority of this stuff was in the book. But there's
stuff that I did know, some historical stuff that just
had to put it down and like slide away because
as a Catholic, I'm just disgusted.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Just I'll be honest.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I don't know how my next guest completely with me,
but I'm disgusted. Fun ways, and this is Christopher Manyon
m a n io n. I'm gonna hold his book
up again. I want you to go get this. This
is a fast read, but it's a it's a historical
book as well, because there's a history. And nothing happens
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in America at of just pop up out of thin air.
There's history to everything. There's a reason we're here. Please
welcome Christopher, Christopher, thank you for coming in.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Sir, thanks for the invite.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
JJ you and I read your book obviously the last
time we talked, and wanted to have you back on because, Sir,
I believe everything I'm talking about Antifa, I'm talking about
the chaos in America. I'm talking about the societal chaos,
the cultural destruction of our norms, the religious destructions, destruction
is all tied together. Do you see the same thing
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in the way I do. As far as the religious,
the Christian aspect, or the secularization of America, It's all
tied together.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Or do you think that I'm off a little bit?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well? I think, in fact this morning, and you've been
talking about Antifa, the coyote traffickers are on both sides
of the border, and they are more devoted to terror
than Antifa is, And there is nothing being done about
the coyotes on either side of the border. Now about
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Antifa and politics, I've been sixty five years in politics.
I know how bad it is. I know how bad
it can get. Well, Chris, you worked on Capitol Hill,
you worked for Barry Goldwater and all the way through
those Republican conventions. Why are you writing about the bishops?
Because I grew up Catholic. I grew up five miles
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from Notre Dame. My dad taught there, I was baptized there,
I got my degrees there, and I thought, no, the
Catholic bishops, they're above all this.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
They're holy.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And I know politicians through and through I mean, my
dad started in politics in nineteen to fifteen. So why
am I writing about the Catholic bishops? Because our bishops
take federal taxpayer money untold millions, year after year to
process the clients of those coyotes that bring their clients
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to the borders, and they won't talk about it. Now.
I've heard of politicians lie, I've heard lawyers lie. I've
heard a lot of paid liars. But our bishops how
to tell the truth and they won't talk about it.
Why because it would be a business disaster. How are
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the bishops going to criticize their most vital partners in
the trafficking business? And less Joe Biden's last State of
the Union message, he actually said the forbidden word illegal.
Joe Biden said illegal. The bishops don't allow that. In fact,
when Biden said that, Gustavo Garcia Celaire, the arch Bishop
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of San Antonio, insisted in print that Biden apologized. He
demanded that Joe Biden apologize and Joe Biden owes the
Catholic bishops because for four years they said nothing nothing
about Catholic Joe Biden as the most radical, vicious child
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killing abortion supporter in American history. Ah oh Biden a
couple of days later apologized because he didn't want the
bishops to get mad at him, and vice versa. The
bishops don't want the government to be mad at him
because they're taking millions and millions and millions a year
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now when this book appeared, of course we haven't since then.
We have a new pope. His approach to immigration seems
to be the same as Pope Francis, and we have
the same bishops. And that's why I'm here, JJ, because
the same crimes and murders are going on as were before.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
You're absolutely right. The bishops. I've said this, and I've
written about this. The United States Conference of US Bishops
are the lynchpin to it all.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
You wrote about it and incredible clarity.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
They are the hinge of all this corruption they're allowing.
And you're right, and you wrote about it in this
article should our us should our bishops span them the
Spanish Mass? And in this article you wrote, and this
is this is perfect. You want they want unity, they want.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
To have this unified. Let's all get along.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
However, they keep speaking or doing Mass in Spanish. And
I spent over two and a half decades on the border.
So when I was on detailed, end up having to
go to mass being Calexico h Brawley uh in Arizona,
and all of a sudden, I'm the only white guy
in there and they're all speaking Spanish. I'm like, wait
a minute, is this America? But they do that purposely
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because you're right, they're making money bringing having people be
brought over to the United States. The federal government subsidize
the Catholic Church in the tunes of billions of dollars,
and the Catholic bishops take it in order to quote
rep to settle the refugees. But what they've done is
they participated in the largest child trafficking in modern history
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in four years under Joe Biden, and the Catholic Church
has demanded it.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yep, am I wrong in that assessment?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Well, they in two thousand three. You might remember the
scandals exploded about twenty five years ago two thousand and two,
and they suddenly a lot of guys like me said, well,
to hell with this, I'm going to give to my
local parish and make sure that none of these bad
guys are going to benefit financially. And they were running
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out of money, and there were a lot of millions
of mad Catholics, and they made a deal in February
of two thousand and three with the Mexican bishops. Okay,
we're going to do immigration. America owes the third World
immigration because we're richer than they are. Capitalist America. So
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it's Marxists, but there are a lot of Marxists and
other parts of government too, and the bishops or no exception.
And with all this violence going on, they will not
condemn it if it isn't if it doesn't have George
Floyd victim. Back five years ago, when George Floyd was
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killed eighty four or died because he was had several
massive and mortal overdoses, eighty four bishops wrote pastorals, sermons, articles,
and obsequious homages to George Floyd, a career criminal. Many
of them even invoked Black Lives Matter, a corrupt outfit
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that made hundreds of millions and then disappeared. Donald Hying
of madiicine and illegal Here's I was in Madison last month.
An illegal alien from Honduras killed a young couple while
I was in Wisconsin. I called the bishop's office, Can
I please, I'd like to interview the bishop and about this.
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I'm doctor Manyon, I've taught for years, Notre Dame PhD.
I'm Catholic, and I never got an answer. In Dallas,
Bishop Edward Burns still has made no statement about the
murder of an innocent hotel manager by an illegal alien
using a machete, career criminal from Cuba. Charlotte, North Carolina
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Bishop Michael Martin has made no statement about the shocking
murder of a young Ukrainian girl refugee who was riding
in the seat in front of him on a local
train Tech Transit train. Why I got the white girl,
the man said twice, it's on tape, and they tried
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to withhold that tape hat finally had to release it.
There you have the problem for the bishops. They've taught
for forty five years that most whites are racists and
you people who oppose immigration are biggots, Cardinal Dolan, bigots,
even if you're in Congress and want to know how
the money you have appropriated to the bishops is being spent, bigot.
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And we're a church and don't have to tell you.
We don't have to tell the folks and the pews either,
so they've taught for forty five years at most whites
are racists but might not know it, but nobody else
can be. Had the racists been reversed in that atrocious
murder in Charlotte, another eighty four bishops would have jumped
up step forward their pastoral letters and condemnations of racism
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and bigotry. You can count on it. And how about trannies.
A tranny murdered Charlie Kirk last week. No sermons, none,
no pastoral letters on that atrocity. A couple of bishops
condemned guns or they've always supported gun control. Hold on,
your excellency. The murderer in Charlotte used the pocket knife.
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The Cuban illegal in Dallas used a machete, So they
can't even condemn machetes and poppet knights. It is these
poor guys, where have they been? They're so clueless and
we got to pray for them, but they don't expect
them to answer your mail.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Well, I think they're clueless, but I think that more
than that, I think it's more nefarious. I believe that
the Catholic Church has been inundated with individuals that are communists. Marxists.
They hate America. And I will prove this, and I've
written about this before at the and I have to
go back because I'm sure they scrubbed it. At least
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ninety percent of Catholic bishops or registered Democrats, Registered Democrats.
Democrats have a plank or planks of abortion, euthanasia, transgender rights,
everything that God would spells out in the bible's a sin.
Our leaders are Catholic leaders. And we could go you
and our Catholics who were focused on athletics. But we
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could talk about the Protestants, we could talk about the
Baptist we could a Seventh Day Advantas, we could talk
about all of them, because it's all They're all involved
in this. My question to you, because I get it
all the time, well, what are we going to do
about the Catholic Church? The Catholic Church has fallen. I'm
gonna I'm gonna give you two examples. I live in Kansas,
so my bishop and my archbishop wrote a letter in
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our big Catholic newspaper publication about the evils of illegal immigration.
And it was all platitudes. There was nothing in there
of substance. It was just feelings. This is how I feel.
This is what this man feels, and they they just lie.
And then last week, or excuse me, this week. Now
we have a sexual scandal in the southern part of
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Kansas City that a priest is involved with another person,
and it might be children involved.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
We don't know yet. Everyone's quiet.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
It seems as if evil has found its way and
rooted itself into you are our faith, our Christian Catholic faith.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
What do we do about it? Do you have any remedies?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, I know this sounds perhaps a little spiritual. If
we aren't praying, nothing's going to happen. That's moving right on.
But never, never forget that. But what Cardinal Burke told
me years ago is he got off an elevator. He said, Chris,
pray for me. The snake strikes at the head. Now
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I am here to tell you Satan doesn't care about
Moslems and a Third Day at Venice and all the rest.
He cares about the Church of Jesus Christ Crucified. He
cares about Catholics. He wants to get Catholics a lot
more than he wants to get Baptists or Jews. He
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knows that Catholics, Jesus Christ is the one he wanted
crucified and got Judas to make the deal. And that
is number one. The church is the target not only
of Satan but of the Communist Party and has been.
And you and I could do a year of programs
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about that history because I go way back in Latin
America and in politics, and I know how they have
been filtrated. Look at Joe McCarthy, my white Man and
Vana White in the sixties had a sign on the back.
McCarthy was right. He is right. And why are they Democrats?
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Because as RFK Junior said last October, my great great
grandfather arrived in eighteen forty eight, and who took care
of him when he got off the boat in Boston?
The Democrats. Now he didn't mention the archbishop, the bishop
there rather who was sending money to Ireland to help
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the Kennedys Ireland and poverty impoverished. No, but they have
been The Democrat Party and the Catholic Church have been
unified right through the sixties when and by the way,
my dad, a very active Democrat, died a Democrat in
seventy nine, but he turned on the party when they
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started embracing abortion and by the way that Supreme Court
was Republican. So the Democrats. The problem with the bishops
is they haven't come to their senses in the last
fifty years because Lbj's Great Society has been given them
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millions and millions for domestic So we call charity. Government
cannot love. So it's not charity, it's a payoff. I've
been in politics too long. You don't give money away
for nothing. They're getting something. And what have they given
to the Democrats? Silence on Joe Biden for four years?
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Absolute silence. You know, it's like the Seal of the Confession.
You cannot criticize Joe Biden because when Trump was in
his first term, he cut Obama's aid to the church
by fifty percent. Biden saw him and raised it another
fifty percent. The bishops aren't gonna pull the plug out
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on that.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
No, Well, you have a very unique experience skill set,
being in politics and in religion. So let me ask
you this question before we go. And this is and
the reason why I'm asking you this specifically is because
you mentioned spirituality, God versus Satan. I believe that wholeheartedly.
You cannot look at the landscape of America without coming away.
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If you are intellectually honest that Satan is roaming. He's
not walking the earth, He's roaming and prowling in the
earth because he's winning. He has he's winning. There's no
other explanation. We know that how it ends in at
the end, we know how it all comes out. But
right now he's winning. I am a strong believer, sir,
unless there is a spiritual intervention in America, because you
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and I are talking about the corruption of the government
at the at levels that we can't even fully articulate
because it's so deep. We're talking about the most major
church in the world is corrupt to its core, and
we know that the Catholic Church. What outside of God
coming and rectifying this. I don't see any other outcome
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at the end game except pain, suffering, and violence. Do
you believe that or you think that I'm off center?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, a couple of things. You know not the day
nor the hour, either of your own death. Today might
be your life. Treat every day as low it's your last,
and one day you'll be right, says my priest buddy.
But with regard to the second coming of Christ or
the intervention of our lady after Fatima and her I
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would hesitate to call it predictions, but her admonitions. What
are we supposed to do, she said, in order to
avoid this virtual holocaust of the worldwide with fire and
so on from the sky. Well, now we know how
it gets there, we know how big it is, and
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we know how terrible it can be. We can pray
for an intervention by Jesus. But he said, hey, I'm
going to come when you least expect it. So what
did he tell us to do? Stay in the state
of grace. Stay in the state of grace. And I'm
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telling you that it is so easy as a Catholic
to get to d C and realize that, Hey, I'm
a real true believer and I'm an avid Catholic and
I'm pounding the table about Jesus. But you can make
a lot of money here. You can get you can
have a career. In fact, I turned down a million
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dollars from No Diego when he wanted me to get
him out of jail. As a lobbyist, I could have
registered as a lobbyist and gone down to Congress and
talked about why a war against Noriega without a declaration
of war was illegal and unconstitutional. Hell, no, I do
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that for nothing. He died in prison, and I can
just attest that if we turn our vision away from
our daily man's of virtue and teaching and exemplifying the
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teaching of Christ and look to politics or look to
an intervention, that is God's timing, not ours. I think
that that is a waste of our energy that we
need to bring back to focus on. I do jail ministry.
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I want to reach souls. I want to reach souls,
and if God wants to send in the Saint Michael, hey,
Jesus said, it's not going to be easy on the believers.
It's going to be tough for everybody. A woe to
the women who are with child. I want to work
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today to perpetuate that teaching of love and absolute fidelity.
And you'll look left and right and realize, well, maybe
I've been considering too much. There are antifas everywhere, there
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are illegal aliens everywhere, and there are coyotes massive right
down to my home county. The coyotes are just as
active here as they are south of the border. Yes,
I work. I talk to the local sheriff about cleaning
up the I translate for the police as a volunteer.
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That's how I try to do my part locally, because
I'll tell you, translating for an illegal alien gang member
is a real experience. After having overseen the budgets for
foreign aid to the entire hemisphere, you know, suddenly the
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macro becomes the micro and I have realized, Hey, this
is one tough this is a tough challenge. But God
has called me to do something and this is what
I can do. Don't wait for God to do what
you ought to be doing. He wants you to do
it and he will help you.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Correct. We all need to get involved, sir. I appreciate
your time.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
Again.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
I don't just say purchase this book. I read it.
I think it's incredible charity for sale. It describes exactly
what we're talking about in a very down in the
weeds type of way that gives you historical context. I
found it great. I have it right by my side here.
I've referenced it in my writings before. Sir, thank you
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very much. How can we follow you before you go?
Do you have any socials?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
I just opened a substack for my sixty years of
writing to put some of that old stuff on the
net because it's not there at Christophermanyon at substack dot.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Com and Christophermannon at subseac dot com will put that
on the bottom of the screen, so our audience is
gonna do it. Sarah, Sarah, I hope we can have
this be a continuing conversation because the things that we
are discussing today, they're not going away. This is just
the beginning of this war for the soul of America.
So thank you very much for your time today.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Thank you, JJ, God bless you and yours.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Thank you very much. Wonderful. That man is a wealth
of knowledge.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
I mean we could I could sit for about five
ten minutes and just give you a background of his
time on Capitol Hill and everything that he did, everything
he's done in the Catholic in the realm of Catholicism,
which gives him a very very unique perspective. I love
talking to people that have not some not some I'm
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a talking head guy, but a guy that has been
there and done it, that has experience, has historical knowledge
to fall back on to say, Okay, we're here in
present time because of X, Y and Z. Incredible. Get
his book and go do a sub steck I have
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so much to talk about in so little time. This
week's gone by fast. What an insane week. I'm looking
at my clock, fifteen minutes incredible. I'm gonna go from
Christopher to another Chris. I'm going to bring Chris Horran
from Sat One two three because I want to talk
to him about what happened in Charlie Kirk his assassination. Chris,
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how you doing today? Do we have Chris? Hey, Chris,
how you doing?
Speaker 10 (45:50):
I'm alright, man, how are you doing?
Speaker 4 (45:52):
I'm doing good?
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Hey, let's just dive right into we haven't had a
chance to really discuss this last week we have with
Charlie kirk assassination. We had all kinds of production, not
just rescheduling right because of that took president over everything.
And I'm talking to my producer right now, Thomas. Do
you have a clip of that Charlie Kirk shooting?
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Ready?
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Okay, he's going to try to find one. But Chris,
what I want to talk about? And I've said this
multiple times on the show this week. If I would
have stood in front of that audience five minutes before
Charlie Kirk got started and said, Hey, I'm from Sat.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
One two three. I have a ballistic backpack.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Anybody would like to have a biobilistic backpack. Maybe a
couple of people would say, you know what, that's a
great idea, but the rest of them be like, come
on whatever. Ten minutes after Charlie Kirk's neck explodes and
I'm standing out there in a parking lot, I'm selling
ballistic backpacks. I'm going to sell out in seconds. This
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is exactly what you and I have been talking about
for months now. And we have gone been going over
church shooting, school shootings. We've been gone all the catastrophes
in America, in the world. That's the first thing I thought,
I know, that sounds crazy. I'm watching the shooting. My
wife comes down and says, look at what happened to
Charlie Kirk. And I go from watching Charlie Kirk to
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watching the audience to see their reaction. And I'm thinking,
and I like to get your perspective on this. I'm
watching from a law enforcement guy. I'm watching two thousand
sitting ducks in a pond.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
So if the.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Shooter wanted to open up, like open up with a
M four something automatic and just sprayed the crowd, he
would have killed hundreds, hundreds just be able to reload
and shoot, reload and shoot because they're sitting ducks.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
What's your take on what you saw?
Speaker 12 (47:56):
Yeah, I mean, first of all, with JJ, look, the
situation you just described is kind of like what happened
in Las Vegas a few years back. Right, Well, you've
got a shoot her up there. He's taking all the
time in the world. He's just picking people off. And
you know, I guess the only silver lining from what
happened was that this guy didn't, you know, keep shooting, right,
I mean, that was you know, if you want to
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look for silver learning, that's the only one. But it
doesn't mean to say that that's not what will happen
next time. And unfortunately, every week when I come on,
we might be planning to talk about this or that
or some something crazy that's going on, and then there's
another shooting, you know, and whether it's in a school
or it's it's a figure like.
Speaker 10 (48:37):
Charlie Cooke, I mean, it just keeps happening.
Speaker 12 (48:40):
And you know, this is exactly why we developed not
we have the ballistic backpack, which I believe you have
one of those for your some of those for your family.
But We also have a ballistic laptop case which you
can hold up in front of you and do the
same thing. But the reality is is that, you know,
if you're at a public event or out in public,
you know, there's a chance that you could get involved
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in something like this. You could be you know, you
could be shot, and so you know, what are you
going to do if you find yourself in that situation.
I mean, the only thing you can do is have
some kind of protection, and as you know from being
in law enforcement, you would never leave and go out
on a job without without your bullet proofess and other ammunition,
you know, So why would you want to do that
at a public event. I mean, it's really sad to
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say that this is the kind of gear that you
need today, But we developed this because it's that one
two three dot com. We got tired of seeing people
just mowed down, kids in classrooms getting killed because they
had no way to protect themselves, you know.
Speaker 10 (49:38):
So that's when we came up with a backpack.
Speaker 12 (49:40):
And you know, maybe if a few more people had
had some of these, or someone standing in front of
them with wearing one of our backpacks, maybe things would
have been different.
Speaker 10 (49:49):
But you know, we're just looking forward.
Speaker 12 (49:51):
The only thing that you can do is you can
be prepared for, you know, when this happens again, and unfortunately,
I think it is a when. Obviously at this point,
these things keep happening, but having some kind of protection
for yourself, FIA, kids, for your family, Like I think
it's almost insane to leave the house without it these days.
Speaker 10 (50:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
I am sad and I say that every time that
I pitched this is I say, Okay, I can't believe
I have to say this out loud, but I dropped
my son off at school again and I felt some
comfort that he had a bulletproof backpack. I mean, that's insane.
Thomas says he has this clip. I just for my audience.
I know they've seen it all, but I want you
to look at it from a different lens. If you
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had some kind of shield to cover your head, neck,
and maybe your upper chest, it makes a big difference.
Go ahead and play this, Thomas. Just just give our
audience the idea what we're the visual we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Account say, we're not doing a game.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Oh my god, there's nowhere to run, Chris, there's I mean,
they're running, but there's if that guy wasn't and we
can get in this a whole nother story about a
loan shooter, and everything the FBI's told us about this
guy has been inconsistent, and I'm being kind. So if
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it wasn't a well, let's say it was multiple shooters,
multiple crazy people shooting at will. You're in a bowl,
you have nowhere to go. What if you're the little
girl that is sitting on the bus and that savage
behind her starts to staber. What if she could have
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seen him coming and had a ballistic backpack that she
carried her goods in and was able to use it
and be able to defend off. I mean, so it's
not just taken around, it's taken a knife. It's blunting
instruments of death.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
I believe.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
Look, I know you have sat phones and I know
the connectibility is paramount. I know you have generators. I
know you have Jen three Star because I have them.
I know you have them. But I'm telling you the
product that I want to pitch the most for you guys,
because I believe it's absolutely essential, is to have a
bulletproof backpack. I just do, Chris, I just I think
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it's an It's almost as if you have to have it,
Like if you're going to go on a trip, I
need to grab my backpack. Okay, well I'm gonna grab
the one that has a place of shield. Why, because
we live in chaotic times, do you think that I'm
I'm I'm overreaching on this. Do you think that I'm
overplaying the need for this product?
Speaker 12 (52:36):
I mean, I wish I could say that you were,
you know, and I wish we didn't have to make
this product, and I wish it wasn't needed, you know.
But it's just the sad reality of the world we
live in today that these things keep happening. And again,
I come on here every week, and you know, we
might be planning to talk about this out or the other,
but when it comes down to it, there's a shooting,
right and that takes precedents. There's another There's more kids killed,
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there's more people killed just sitting in work.
Speaker 10 (53:00):
You know, there's a lot of.
Speaker 12 (53:01):
Crazy people out there who have guns and they want
to cause harm and death and destruction. And so the
only thing we can do is to try and protect ourselves.
And there are lots of ways to do that. But
when it comes to being shielded from gunfire. I mean,
I think this is the number one product You're right
that we have that's a value right now that you know,
whatever else you can't can't afford, this is what you
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need to get, you know, not just for your kids,
for yourself.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
Yeah, And Chris, tell my audience the cost, because I
think when people hear all ballistic backpack a bliss, the
vest that I would i a carrier that I would
have to go to work every day is hundreds, if
not one thousand plus dollars. Because you're thinking the technology,
that's not true. What's the cost of purchasing this backpack
like it did for my son?
Speaker 12 (53:48):
That's just one hundred and ninety nine dollars, mate, And
you know, honestly, for if you go out and get
a hof decent backpack, you're going to pay that or
a lot more. But none of those other ones will
protect you from gunfire.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Unfortunately, Chris, I don't know what we're going to talk
about next week, but I'm assuming through because of the
acceleration of violence, that it's going to not be something good, unfortunately.
But I appreciate you coming on and sharing your company.
Sat onetwothree dot com and the products that you have.
I it's paramount. Like you told, like you said to
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my audience, well you JJ, you would never go out
in the field without your best on. You're absolutely right,
and I'm not going to send my son out into schools, churches,
amusement parks, malls without some kind of form of defense.
And that's his defense right now, is to get out alive.
So thank you very much. What a sobering week, what
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a horrible time that we're living through in America. Thank you,
Chris said, thanks, AMINE appreciate it. Go to sat onetwothree
dot com forward slash JJ. I mean, I wish Chris
and I would go back and have conversations about where
he's at. And then I see palm trees in the
background and and laughing. It's almost as if the joy
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of life has been sucked away from us. And I
think that should be a wake up call. And you
being just pissed off. And if you're not pissed off,
I don't know what's wrong with you. To be honest
with you, I have to sit and have conversation with
my son about school shootings, getting shot at at church. Okay, son,
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let's go through this scenario. What happens if somebody starts
shooting through the windows like they're in Minnesota? Okay, Dad,
I'm gonna get under the pew. Okay, I mean I'm
having these conversations. Why am I having these conversations? Why
am I talking about a pedophile priest or or people
in positions of authority that Hey, to my son, Hey,
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we have to have this conversation, Joseph, if you can't
trust anybody?
Speaker 4 (55:50):
What Dad?
Speaker 3 (55:51):
Yeah, okay, we love our priest. We think they're wonderful.
I don't spect them on or anything. But here's the reality.
Here's a statistical probability. This is this is the pedophilia
in the world. So what I need to worry about? Hey, son,
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sit down. You have blonde hair and blue eyes and
white skin. You are considered the devil in today's society.
Let's sit down and talk about this. If that isn't
that pisses me off. If it doesn't piss you off,
I don't know. Maybe it's not happening to you and
you think, well, none's happening to me. Oh, you're gonna
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have kids one day, God, God willing and blesses you.
Speaker 4 (56:40):
You're gonna be canceled. You're gonna be censored, You're gonna
be called vile names.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
And when it finally gets to you, maybe you're the
end of the road and you've watched everybody else get
destroyed or have their lives changed, and you're gonna be like, well,
who's gonna help me? Well, there's no one there to
help you. Where were you? I have the tagline on
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my sub stack that I end on, and I say,
be bold and speak boldly, just like Christopher Manion was said,
you have to be involved.
Speaker 4 (57:18):
You have to speak out, you have to you have
to speak the truth.
Speaker 3 (57:24):
How did we get to a position in America where
transgender is normal, where mutilating children's bodies normal, Where killing
a baby at nine months is normal, That allowing the
whole world to come into our nation, to have over
one hundred million legal and illegal foreign nationals in America
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is okay. When did it become okay for politicians to
call America horrible, vile names and they have dual citizenship
and allegiance to a foreign nation. When did that become okay?
When did it become okay to steal election put a
man in there that had absolute evident dementia and think
it's okay.
Speaker 4 (58:05):
When is it?
Speaker 3 (58:05):
When did we get to the point where we're releasing
violent felons onto the street for equity?
Speaker 4 (58:14):
How did that become okay?
Speaker 3 (58:15):
When did we allow our religious leaders to over decades
become pedophilia pedophile predators and it's okay. How do we
get to the point where we allowed our religious leaders
to tell us to push this effeminate, this impotent, this
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this flaccid gay Jesus on us that God is some
some freak that that loves transgenderism and then everything's okay.
Speaker 4 (58:49):
How did we get to this point?
Speaker 3 (58:51):
I'm going to tell you how, because you remain silent
in the face of evil, You did nothing in the
face of evil.
Speaker 4 (58:59):
You remained a coward. That's how we got here.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
That's how we're living in this incessuous cesspool in America
right now. And if you think, well, you know, it's
not that, it's not that bad. Really, you know it's
that bad. You know it's that bad. We all know
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it's that bad. Some of us have a better understanding
of the depth of how bad it is, and some
people are just waking up. We all sense it. It's here,
evil is roaming and evil is winning because we remain silent,
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because we are afraid. On some level, we're afraid of something.
Stop being afraid. Why don't you be bold and speak
boldly and believe in what you believe in and why
you believe it. It's time to get the game. America,
our nation, the soul of our nation, is at stake.
Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
M
Massive human trafficking is a record two hundred and eighty
people arrested.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
They're not recording the real numbers.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
The numbers are segmented and they are fictitious. I started
my career in nineteen ninety seventy the United States bar Patrol.
It was one of the most violent times in recent
borgtual history. I made my bones and my reputation on
that border. I believe what is happening on the border
today is intentional. We have people in the United States
of America that breed children in order to sell them.
(00:26):
Our own government is facilitating the absolute destruction of the
American immigration system, and I could prove it point by point.
I'm unafraid to speak the truth. This is just data
driven and experienced driven.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Carlin Brisaco is an undercover investigative journalists for Decode the
Left who's infiltrated these terrorselves. Carlin, tell me about how
these people train. They look pretty militaristic.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
They do have sessions where they bring in people with
military exper Anti war is a very big thing for Antifa,
so they do hand to hand combat trainings. I was
just undercover with them in New York City over the
weekend where they had a whole self defense class where
they were teaching people how to violently, you know, confront
the police, but also defend themselves if they needed to
be put in that position.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And why do they always get out of jail so quickly?
You see all these people get popped, They get bailed
right out and charges never stick.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
How is that? Well?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Antifa actually they train people on how to get arrested.
And it's interesting with far left subcultures because they actually
volunteer to get arrested and go through this type of
training where they are provided legal support, they are provided lawyers,
they are provided all of this stuff with mutual aid,
and so as soon as they get arrested, Antifa basically
goes down to the jail and they build them out
and they are all set up with a lawyer and
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ready to go. So they plan all of this stuff
out ahead of time, and they have the resources set
up for people to be able to be taken care of.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, I mean obviously someone's paying for their legal representation.
What is the core mission of Antifa? Is it anarchy?
Are they anarchists?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Antifa or anarchists. Their primary goal is the violent overthrow
of the federal government. I cannot emphasize this enough. You know,
we've been hearing a lot of talk about civil war
over the last couple of years between Democrats and Republicans
read versus Blue. I firmly believe that the real civil
war we have coming is the radical revolutionary socialist and
communists in Antifa versus the federal government. That is their goal,
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that is their only goal, and people need to start
taking this problem very, very seriously.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Who funds Antifa, great question.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
So the way they organize is they're so decentralized and
diffused that there's not one person at the top who's funding. Again,
I go back to the radical Islam and jihadis model.
There's no single person who's funding Jahadism.
Speaker 8 (02:53):
Around the world. You have many, many funders.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
I'll just speak to the strongest e an ince I've
seen from the twenty two twenty riots. You know, millions
of dollars were raised for these bail funds in legal aid,
and that all came through campaigns that were put online
and then people donated anonymously and these were shared. The
links were shared on Twitter and across Reddit and social media,
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and it was a lot of people contributed money, So
that's one one level you click at. Another thing is
that there are various registered actual nonprofits that work in
the Antifa apparatus, and some of these nonprofits get grant
money from the state. It happens in the state of Oregon.
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There are Antifa lego.
Speaker 8 (03:45):
Groups legal groups that explicitly exist to provide free legal
aid to violent felony suspects accused of anti.
Speaker 9 (04:18):
For good, it's gonna be to find out the source.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Of this, well, you're gonna have to infiltrate Antifa, So
you're gonna have to have some sort of transgender FBI
agent go under cover for a while. I don't know
if they have that at the Bureau. It's a great movie,
but they could try it. They've been causing violence in
Mayhem for a long time and everyone's treated them like
a little nuisance.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
But they have to be treated seriously.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
They shot and killed someone out West, they shot a cop.
They've punched people in the throats. They've fired commercial grade
fireworks in the faces of federal law enforcement.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
They laid siege to a federal courthouse.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
They occupy courthouses, they bomb cop cars, they bomb teslas.
They're not very nice people. It's not like they're doing
this for healthcare reform. They want to overthrow the federal government.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
That's an anarchist. An anarchists in.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Our history, they've assassinated presidents, They fire bombed the townhouses
of attorney generals.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
You got to take these guys seriously.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Joe Biden took the threat of white supremacists domestic terrorist
seriously and investigated them. Surely we can investigate the domestic
terror threat for Mantifa because the money is suspicious. Where
do they get the body armor? Why do they always
have the best equipment and technology. Why do they look
all tacked out constantly? And then when they get arrested,
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they have bail money and the best lawyers so they
never ever face any charges.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Who's paying the lawyers? That's what I want to know.
You bring up some interesting points.
Speaker 9 (06:01):
I mean, also, Emily, I mean a lot of people
thinking that.
Speaker 10 (06:05):
That's the other thing.
Speaker 11 (06:05):
They have signs and the role professionally made real protesters
make them in their basement, and the role.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The same is behind it. Do you have a guy
you know you hear sorrows? I don't know.
Speaker 11 (06:15):
We're going to find out if he's behind it. But
it's incitement to riot. That's a criminal act, and people
are dying because of it, so it's really you know,
it's death.
Speaker 10 (06:26):
So we're gonna we're.
Speaker 11 (06:27):
Gonna find out and it should have been done a
long time ago.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Welcome to truth with JJ Carroll. Antifa and why have
they been allowed to just fester? Well, it's just like
anything else that's happened in America. There is no law
and order, there's no justice. The Democrats have fed this beast.
They put in all of the judges, sorrols based judges,
sorols based das prosecutors. So people are saying, well, how's
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Antifa getting out? They're they're violently punching police officers. Well,
that's a fet that's not a misdemeanor, it's a state
and federal felony.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
It's a felony. So how are they getting released.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, they're getting released because the DA's and the prosecutors
are not prosecuting them.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
There's this case.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Dismissed or or uh in the in the best of
of of judicial law enforcement, where we're dismissed in the case,
And well, how's that happening? Well, because you have no
judges that are rooted in the constitution. You have activists. Heck,
we've showed last week. You have judges in America that
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don't haven't even passed the bar. They're like gardeners. There's
I think she'd be great. She's a person of color.
Throw her in the judge, put a black robe on her. Okay,
das prosecutors, I dealt with you as attorneys my whole career.
I'm telling you, without a shadow of a doubt, there's
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two things that that are at happen.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
In law enforcement and the judicial system.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
One, the judicial system is corrupt to the core, corrupt
to the core.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Period.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
The second thing that's problem with attorneys and excuse me
DA's and US attorneys, even the good ones, the good
ones that want to do good and do what's righteous,
there's not.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Enough of them. They're overwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Their cases are stacked, so they have to continue to
make plea deals. Why don't we have US attorneys that
are just bored, meaning we have so many of them,
they're just like, gosh, can somebody give me a case
please that I can investigate.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Oh, we're so we're so good now at prosecuting.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
We have so many people, we're going to now dig
into corruption. Oh, that's why you don't have enough federal
prosecutors US attorneys because there's so much crime. If they
start digging and digging and digging with their unlimited resources,
they're going to find massive, massive amounts of crime at
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the elite level. Now, Antifa, how do you get funding?
How do you do you think that these are little
soy boys which they are are coming together in some
community basement and coming up with plans, defensive tactic training.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
They're pulled all their.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Little money from mommy and daddy and got high paying
attorneys to be on the retainer for them. Do you
think they got shields and masks and bricks and smoke grenades?
You think they cobble together their pennies for that. This
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needs to be investigated immediately. I've heard Donald Trump say
these are rico charges against George Soterls. Why has it
taken decades to get to this point? Maybe that's a question.
Do I applaud Donald Trump for even talking about it?
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
But I want some action.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I just want some action, meaning I want some arrest
and we're not going to get any you know it
as well as I We're in month going in month
ten of this administration and we don't have an arrest.
We have treason from the last administration. We have absolute
corruption at the Social Security Administration. DOGE has shown that
that NGOs have been used to funnel money back to politicians.
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Not one politician's been arrested. I'm going to show you
elon Omar. Elon Omar is going into church, into churches
and saying that Charlie Kirk was a mental patient, he
was a hateful person, he deserved to die. We have
elon Omar talking about how everything is about Somalia. I
have to get Samalia everything they need. Already shown without
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a shadow of doubt that she committed marriage fraud. That's
a felony. She's not been arrested. We have illegal aliens
in the in the power structure of our politics. Nobody
does anything we have. We have congressional hearing after congressional
hearing after congressional hearing, and nothing gets done. We're just
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told by the the the head of FBI Cash Hotel,
that Jeffrey Epstein just had children trafficked to him and
he he just had sex with thousands of underage children.
His appetite is sexual appetite was so grotesque that it
was just for him, even though women, now adult women,
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were on the steps of the Congress saying out loud,
I have evidence. I've already proven, Yes, I was trafficked
to Jeffrey Epstein. He trafficked me to the Prince and
and Clinton. I had uh, miss miss Hope Greena on
on a vault interview. I'm going to show you a
clip later today that said yes, I was traffic to Epstein.
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Epstein then trafficked me to the Clintons, Obamas, and Biden's,
just to name a few of the hundreds of not
thousands of people that raped her throughout several decades. But
no cash, hotel, we have nothing.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
We live in a.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Lawless world, void of any kind of justice. Look, I'm
not some some dude that just got a podcast and
I'm now talking about law and order. And I was
a guy that lived it, ran task forces, had US
attorneys attached to my task forces. I know exactly how
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all this works, all of it. I know immigration policy
and law inside and out. I understand how local law
enforcement works, sheriff's police, federal agencies.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I understand it all.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I'm telling you without a shadow of a doubt that
we live in the most lawless societ in American history period.
Some would say, well the wild West was what. No, No,
there was justice in the wild West. You stole my horses,
You were a horse thief, you got killed. You raped
the woman, we hung you, you killed somebody, you were killed.
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I'm going to show you two clips real quick, just
to drive home this point that the war that we're
in in America is on all fronts and it is
being funded by people that hate America, that are Americans,
that are legal immigrants, that are illegal immigrants in America.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Here's the first one.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Please play clip six, just to where's the riot shields
coming from? Watch this and think that it's not being funded,
you have to be a complete moron.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
Earlier of the day where you have the different organizations
that are backing some of these protests. This is more
she said, organic, And maybe that's what you're seeing there.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
I'm hoping that is.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
That's where are those boxes?
Speaker 9 (14:00):
Are those masks some sorts that doesn't look like food.
Speaker 10 (14:06):
Looks like yeah, those are masks.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Yeah, so people.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Are I want you to understand those masks, those were
gas masks.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
A couple hundred bucks a pop. Let's just say one
hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Let's just say they got them a wholesale whatever damage
mask for sale at the local Antifa American hating shop
down in Portland. Okay, you got one hundred dollars. There
was about one hundred of them there.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
That was just one.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And then you have pallets of bricks dropped off throughout
Los Angeles and Portland or wherever they're doing this. That
was in LA during the illegal alien deal.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Do you know the coordination it takes to drop off
pallettes of bricks. You're not driving around in your Chevy
pickup with you know, several tons of bricks and then
you just drop them off. It has to come in
a flatbed. There has to be a forklift that take
it off the flatbed and put it in the middle
of the street. That takes coordination and effort and money.
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Here's another one, number seven. Please show this one.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Please.
Speaker 10 (15:19):
Earlier of the day where you have these.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Logan.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Can you see if it's number six? Can you can
you play number six? I don't know if I have
the same one I do. I'm sorry, but so my
next one that was going to show you. It was
exactly the same as the mask. And they were just
handing out shields, shields like riot gear, shields like police
officers have. Where did they get those who coordinating it,
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who bought it, who delivered them? This is a conspiracy,
And again, where's the US attorneys, where's the DJ where?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Look?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I had this conversation with my wife the other night.
She says to me, I was very frustrated. We were
talking and I just threw my hands up and I said,
just there's just no justice, sweetheart. I'm I've had it.
And she said, well, what would you do? And I said,
I would do so much different. I'd be so aggressive,
I'd be so transparent all the time I would have
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I would have the DOJ, through the FBI, through the
the uh ATF, through the BORD Patrol, through HSI, through
all of those. I would have specialized groups, specialized groups
of guys that focus solely on a certain.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Problem.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Antifa. I want FBI, I want ATF, I want all
that because they're they're trafficking guns and arm armaments everything
I want. I want a unit, a big unit. I
want it UH and I want to take it down
as fast as we can not long term. I have
a long Everything has a long term investigation. But I
want I want absolute arrest happen at an unprecedented rate
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because that has to happen that we cannot wait.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
What are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Have a long When you talk about a long investigation,
we're talking eighteen months.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Two years, three years, five years.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Do you have eighteen months left in America to tolerate
this anymore? And the answer is no, you don't.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You just don't. We don't. So I would have specialized units.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I would already had a unit that just nothing but
traffic determine where these children are. Tom Holman says they
found twenty five thousand children in horrible conditions, working long hours.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Children, twenty five thousand.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
There was over five hundred fifty thousand children that were
trafficked into America. We can't find twenty five work found
great job, Tom Homan.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Not enough.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
We're deporting seven hundred and fifty people a day. Seven
hundred and fifty people a day. That's not enough. There's
fifty million people in America that are illegal aliens. Would
have an absolute army of soldiers working and assigned to
HSI and Bord Patrol and DHS to find every single
legal alien and they.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Would be eradicated. You think that would be a start.
Do you think we could start there?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I want every politician everyone, I want a new immediately,
it's demanded, demanded executive order. I need everybody's financials, everyone's financials.
And then I want investigators assigned, multiple investigators assigned to
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every single politician. A forensic financial analyst is going to
dig through all of your stuff, and we're going to
find out if you're a leg if you're came here
legally or illegally, and you're going to be removed. Well, jaju,
that's insane that that you can't do that. Wait a minute.
The most violent nation on planet Earth five years ago
(19:09):
was El Salvador. The most corrupt everything you can imagine.
And what did the president of El Salvador do? He goes,
I'm included in this. Everyone is going to be investigated, period, judges, politicians,
and he started throwing him in jail. Oh you took money, Okay,
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how did you get this million dollars? It just and
literally this is what our politicians have said. Well, I
don't know, it's just got in my account have you
ever had a million dollars to show up in your account?
You're just there on a Friday looking at your account,
how much.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Money I have?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
And oh my gosh, I got a million dollars. I
don't know where it came from. All right, hallelujah, let's
let's spend it before I bring my next guest in.
And this ties into everything, and I'm excited to talk
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gonna gnaw on this.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
No, no, no, this is a treat. She's gonna digest this.
He's a plastic This is a treat. The same thing
with you.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
You're going and you're finding food and you're like, well,
that has plastics in it. The waters has plastics in it.
There's pesticides. mRNA, Well, you need to clean your immune system,
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We have this.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
We basically have the same digestive system. We both are
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gut has to work. It has to be it optimal.
I have junk in my body right now. That I
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I need to purge my system because I don't trust
anybody for what they've done to me in our nation.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
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my guests in and I'm holding this book right here,
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Charity for Sale. I've read a book cover to cover,
loved it. I let me just hold up there. Everyone
go get Charity for Sale. You want to understand what
happened to the Catholic Church. You want to understand how
the NGO's Catholic charities. You want to understand how the
Catholic bishops have played a role in the destruction of America.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I'm Catholic. I take time, had to stop. I can't.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I just like I knew it, right, I knew the
majority of this stuff was in the book. But there's
stuff that I did know, some historical stuff that just
had to put it down and like slide away because
as a Catholic, I'm just disgusted.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Just I'll be honest.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I don't know how my next guest completely with me,
but I'm disgusted. Fun ways, and this is Christopher Manyon
m a n io n. I'm gonna hold his book
up again. I want you to go get this. This
is a fast read, but it's a it's a historical
book as well, because there's a history. And nothing happens
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in America at of just pop up out of thin air.
There's history to everything. There's a reason we're here. Please
welcome Christopher, Christopher, thank you for coming in.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Sir, thanks for the invite.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
JJ you and I read your book obviously the last
time we talked, and wanted to have you back on because, Sir,
I believe everything I'm talking about Antifa, I'm talking about
the chaos in America. I'm talking about the societal chaos,
the cultural destruction of our norms, the religious destructions, destruction
is all tied together. Do you see the same thing
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in the way I do. As far as the religious,
the Christian aspect, or the secularization of America, It's all
tied together.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Or do you think that I'm off a little bit?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well? I think, in fact this morning, and you've been
talking about Antifa, the coyote traffickers are on both sides
of the border, and they are more devoted to terror
than Antifa is, And there is nothing being done about
the coyotes on either side of the border. Now about
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Antifa and politics, I've been sixty five years in politics.
I know how bad it is. I know how bad
it can get. Well, Chris, you worked on Capitol Hill,
you worked for Barry Goldwater and all the way through
those Republican conventions. Why are you writing about the bishops?
Because I grew up Catholic. I grew up five miles
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from Notre Dame. My dad taught there, I was baptized there,
I got my degrees there, and I thought, no, the
Catholic bishops, they're above all this.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
They're holy.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And I know politicians through and through I mean, my
dad started in politics in nineteen to fifteen. So why
am I writing about the Catholic bishops? Because our bishops
take federal taxpayer money untold millions, year after year to
process the clients of those coyotes that bring their clients
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to the borders, and they won't talk about it. Now.
I've heard of politicians lie, I've heard lawyers lie. I've
heard a lot of paid liars. But our bishops how
to tell the truth and they won't talk about it.
Why because it would be a business disaster. How are
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the bishops going to criticize their most vital partners in
the trafficking business? And less Joe Biden's last State of
the Union message, he actually said the forbidden word illegal.
Joe Biden said illegal. The bishops don't allow that. In fact,
when Biden said that, Gustavo Garcia Celaire, the arch Bishop
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of San Antonio, insisted in print that Biden apologized. He
demanded that Joe Biden apologize and Joe Biden owes the
Catholic bishops because for four years they said nothing nothing
about Catholic Joe Biden as the most radical, vicious child
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killing abortion supporter in American history. Ah oh Biden a
couple of days later apologized because he didn't want the
bishops to get mad at him, and vice versa. The
bishops don't want the government to be mad at him
because they're taking millions and millions and millions a year
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now when this book appeared, of course we haven't since then.
We have a new pope. His approach to immigration seems
to be the same as Pope Francis, and we have
the same bishops. And that's why I'm here, JJ, because
the same crimes and murders are going on as were before.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
You're absolutely right. The bishops. I've said this, and I've
written about this. The United States Conference of US Bishops
are the lynchpin to it all.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
You wrote about it and incredible clarity.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
They are the hinge of all this corruption they're allowing.
And you're right, and you wrote about it in this
article should our us should our bishops span them the
Spanish Mass? And in this article you wrote, and this
is this is perfect. You want they want unity, they want.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
To have this unified. Let's all get along.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
However, they keep speaking or doing Mass in Spanish. And
I spent over two and a half decades on the border.
So when I was on detailed, end up having to
go to mass being Calexico h Brawley uh in Arizona,
and all of a sudden, I'm the only white guy
in there and they're all speaking Spanish. I'm like, wait
a minute, is this America? But they do that purposely
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because you're right, they're making money bringing having people be
brought over to the United States. The federal government subsidize
the Catholic Church in the tunes of billions of dollars,
and the Catholic bishops take it in order to quote
rep to settle the refugees. But what they've done is
they participated in the largest child trafficking in modern history
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in four years under Joe Biden, and the Catholic Church
has demanded it.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yep, am I wrong in that assessment?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Well, they in two thousand three. You might remember the
scandals exploded about twenty five years ago two thousand and two,
and they suddenly a lot of guys like me said, well,
to hell with this, I'm going to give to my
local parish and make sure that none of these bad
guys are going to benefit financially. And they were running
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out of money, and there were a lot of millions
of mad Catholics, and they made a deal in February
of two thousand and three with the Mexican bishops. Okay,
we're going to do immigration. America owes the third World
immigration because we're richer than they are. Capitalist America. So
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it's Marxists, but there are a lot of Marxists and
other parts of government too, and the bishops or no exception.
And with all this violence going on, they will not
condemn it if it isn't if it doesn't have George
Floyd victim. Back five years ago, when George Floyd was
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killed eighty four or died because he was had several
massive and mortal overdoses, eighty four bishops wrote pastorals, sermons, articles,
and obsequious homages to George Floyd, a career criminal. Many
of them even invoked Black Lives Matter, a corrupt outfit
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that made hundreds of millions and then disappeared. Donald Hying
of madiicine and illegal Here's I was in Madison last month.
An illegal alien from Honduras killed a young couple while
I was in Wisconsin. I called the bishop's office, Can
I please, I'd like to interview the bishop and about this.
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I'm doctor Manyon, I've taught for years, Notre Dame PhD.
I'm Catholic, and I never got an answer. In Dallas,
Bishop Edward Burns still has made no statement about the
murder of an innocent hotel manager by an illegal alien
using a machete, career criminal from Cuba. Charlotte, North Carolina
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Bishop Michael Martin has made no statement about the shocking
murder of a young Ukrainian girl refugee who was riding
in the seat in front of him on a local
train Tech Transit train. Why I got the white girl,
the man said twice, it's on tape, and they tried
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to withhold that tape hat finally had to release it.
There you have the problem for the bishops. They've taught
for forty five years that most whites are racists and
you people who oppose immigration are biggots, Cardinal Dolan, bigots,
even if you're in Congress and want to know how
the money you have appropriated to the bishops is being spent, bigot.
(31:10):
And we're a church and don't have to tell you.
We don't have to tell the folks and the pews either,
so they've taught for forty five years at most whites
are racists but might not know it, but nobody else
can be. Had the racists been reversed in that atrocious
murder in Charlotte, another eighty four bishops would have jumped
up step forward their pastoral letters and condemnations of racism
(31:35):
and bigotry. You can count on it. And how about trannies.
A tranny murdered Charlie Kirk last week. No sermons, none,
no pastoral letters on that atrocity. A couple of bishops
condemned guns or they've always supported gun control. Hold on,
your excellency. The murderer in Charlotte used the pocket knife.
(31:57):
The Cuban illegal in Dallas used a machete, So they
can't even condemn machetes and poppet knights. It is these
poor guys, where have they been? They're so clueless and
we got to pray for them, but they don't expect
them to answer your mail.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Well, I think they're clueless, but I think that more
than that, I think it's more nefarious. I believe that
the Catholic Church has been inundated with individuals that are communists. Marxists.
They hate America. And I will prove this, and I've
written about this before at the and I have to
go back because I'm sure they scrubbed it. At least
(32:40):
ninety percent of Catholic bishops or registered Democrats, Registered Democrats.
Democrats have a plank or planks of abortion, euthanasia, transgender rights,
everything that God would spells out in the bible's a sin.
Our leaders are Catholic leaders. And we could go you
and our Catholics who were focused on athletics. But we
(33:00):
could talk about the Protestants, we could talk about the
Baptist we could a Seventh Day Advantas, we could talk
about all of them, because it's all They're all involved
in this. My question to you, because I get it
all the time, well, what are we going to do
about the Catholic Church? The Catholic Church has fallen. I'm
gonna I'm gonna give you two examples. I live in Kansas,
so my bishop and my archbishop wrote a letter in
(33:23):
our big Catholic newspaper publication about the evils of illegal immigration.
And it was all platitudes. There was nothing in there
of substance. It was just feelings. This is how I feel.
This is what this man feels, and they they just lie.
And then last week, or excuse me, this week. Now
we have a sexual scandal in the southern part of
(33:46):
Kansas City that a priest is involved with another person,
and it might be children involved.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
We don't know yet. Everyone's quiet.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
It seems as if evil has found its way and
rooted itself into you are our faith, our Christian Catholic faith.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
What do we do about it? Do you have any remedies?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, I know this sounds perhaps a little spiritual. If
we aren't praying, nothing's going to happen. That's moving right on.
But never, never forget that. But what Cardinal Burke told
me years ago is he got off an elevator. He said, Chris,
pray for me. The snake strikes at the head. Now
(34:31):
I am here to tell you Satan doesn't care about
Moslems and a Third Day at Venice and all the rest.
He cares about the Church of Jesus Christ Crucified. He
cares about Catholics. He wants to get Catholics a lot
more than he wants to get Baptists or Jews. He
(34:51):
knows that Catholics, Jesus Christ is the one he wanted
crucified and got Judas to make the deal. And that
is number one. The church is the target not only
of Satan but of the Communist Party and has been.
And you and I could do a year of programs
(35:13):
about that history because I go way back in Latin
America and in politics, and I know how they have
been filtrated. Look at Joe McCarthy, my white Man and
Vana White in the sixties had a sign on the back.
McCarthy was right. He is right. And why are they Democrats?
(35:36):
Because as RFK Junior said last October, my great great
grandfather arrived in eighteen forty eight, and who took care
of him when he got off the boat in Boston?
The Democrats. Now he didn't mention the archbishop, the bishop
there rather who was sending money to Ireland to help
(35:59):
the Kennedys Ireland and poverty impoverished. No, but they have
been The Democrat Party and the Catholic Church have been
unified right through the sixties when and by the way,
my dad, a very active Democrat, died a Democrat in
seventy nine, but he turned on the party when they
(36:25):
started embracing abortion and by the way that Supreme Court
was Republican. So the Democrats. The problem with the bishops
is they haven't come to their senses in the last
fifty years because Lbj's Great Society has been given them
(36:48):
millions and millions for domestic So we call charity. Government
cannot love. So it's not charity, it's a payoff. I've
been in politics too long. You don't give money away
for nothing. They're getting something. And what have they given
to the Democrats? Silence on Joe Biden for four years?
(37:10):
Absolute silence. You know, it's like the Seal of the Confession.
You cannot criticize Joe Biden because when Trump was in
his first term, he cut Obama's aid to the church
by fifty percent. Biden saw him and raised it another
fifty percent. The bishops aren't gonna pull the plug out
(37:32):
on that.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
No, Well, you have a very unique experience skill set,
being in politics and in religion. So let me ask
you this question before we go. And this is and
the reason why I'm asking you this specifically is because
you mentioned spirituality, God versus Satan. I believe that wholeheartedly.
You cannot look at the landscape of America without coming away.
(37:57):
If you are intellectually honest that Satan is roaming. He's
not walking the earth, He's roaming and prowling in the
earth because he's winning. He has he's winning. There's no
other explanation. We know that how it ends in at
the end, we know how it all comes out. But
right now he's winning. I am a strong believer, sir,
unless there is a spiritual intervention in America, because you
(38:22):
and I are talking about the corruption of the government
at the at levels that we can't even fully articulate
because it's so deep. We're talking about the most major
church in the world is corrupt to its core, and
we know that the Catholic Church. What outside of God
coming and rectifying this. I don't see any other outcome
(38:44):
at the end game except pain, suffering, and violence. Do
you believe that or you think that I'm off center?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, a couple of things. You know not the day
nor the hour, either of your own death. Today might
be your life. Treat every day as low it's your last,
and one day you'll be right, says my priest buddy.
But with regard to the second coming of Christ or
the intervention of our lady after Fatima and her I
(39:17):
would hesitate to call it predictions, but her admonitions. What
are we supposed to do, she said, in order to
avoid this virtual holocaust of the worldwide with fire and
so on from the sky. Well, now we know how
it gets there, we know how big it is, and
(39:39):
we know how terrible it can be. We can pray
for an intervention by Jesus. But he said, hey, I'm
going to come when you least expect it. So what
did he tell us to do? Stay in the state
of grace. Stay in the state of grace. And I'm
(40:01):
telling you that it is so easy as a Catholic
to get to d C and realize that, Hey, I'm
a real true believer and I'm an avid Catholic and
I'm pounding the table about Jesus. But you can make
a lot of money here. You can get you can
have a career. In fact, I turned down a million
(40:24):
dollars from No Diego when he wanted me to get
him out of jail. As a lobbyist, I could have
registered as a lobbyist and gone down to Congress and
talked about why a war against Noriega without a declaration
of war was illegal and unconstitutional. Hell, no, I do
(40:46):
that for nothing. He died in prison, and I can
just attest that if we turn our vision away from
our daily man's of virtue and teaching and exemplifying the
(41:06):
teaching of Christ and look to politics or look to
an intervention, that is God's timing, not ours. I think
that that is a waste of our energy that we
need to bring back to focus on. I do jail ministry.
(41:29):
I want to reach souls. I want to reach souls,
and if God wants to send in the Saint Michael, hey,
Jesus said, it's not going to be easy on the believers.
It's going to be tough for everybody. A woe to
the women who are with child. I want to work
(41:50):
today to perpetuate that teaching of love and absolute fidelity.
And you'll look left and right and realize, well, maybe
I've been considering too much. There are antifas everywhere, there
(42:11):
are illegal aliens everywhere, and there are coyotes massive right
down to my home county. The coyotes are just as
active here as they are south of the border. Yes,
I work. I talk to the local sheriff about cleaning
up the I translate for the police as a volunteer.
(42:32):
That's how I try to do my part locally, because
I'll tell you, translating for an illegal alien gang member
is a real experience. After having overseen the budgets for
foreign aid to the entire hemisphere, you know, suddenly the
(42:52):
macro becomes the micro and I have realized, Hey, this
is one tough this is a tough challenge. But God
has called me to do something and this is what
I can do. Don't wait for God to do what
you ought to be doing. He wants you to do
it and he will help you.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Correct. We all need to get involved, sir. I appreciate
your time.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
Again.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
I don't just say purchase this book. I read it.
I think it's incredible charity for sale. It describes exactly
what we're talking about in a very down in the
weeds type of way that gives you historical context. I
found it great. I have it right by my side here.
I've referenced it in my writings before. Sir, thank you
(43:38):
very much. How can we follow you before you go?
Do you have any socials?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
I just opened a substack for my sixty years of
writing to put some of that old stuff on the
net because it's not there at Christophermanyon at substack dot.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Com and Christophermannon at subseac dot com will put that
on the bottom of the screen, so our audience is
gonna do it. Sarah, Sarah, I hope we can have
this be a continuing conversation because the things that we
are discussing today, they're not going away. This is just
the beginning of this war for the soul of America.
So thank you very much for your time today.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Thank you, JJ, God bless you and yours.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Thank you very much. Wonderful. That man is a wealth
of knowledge.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
I mean we could I could sit for about five
ten minutes and just give you a background of his
time on Capitol Hill and everything that he did, everything
he's done in the Catholic in the realm of Catholicism,
which gives him a very very unique perspective. I love
talking to people that have not some not some I'm
(44:53):
a talking head guy, but a guy that has been
there and done it, that has experience, has historical knowledge
to fall back on to say, Okay, we're here in
present time because of X, Y and Z. Incredible. Get
his book and go do a sub steck I have
(45:15):
so much to talk about in so little time. This
week's gone by fast. What an insane week. I'm looking
at my clock, fifteen minutes incredible. I'm gonna go from
Christopher to another Chris. I'm going to bring Chris Horran
from Sat One two three because I want to talk
to him about what happened in Charlie Kirk his assassination. Chris,
(45:40):
how you doing today? Do we have Chris? Hey, Chris,
how you doing?
Speaker 10 (45:50):
I'm alright, man, how are you doing?
Speaker 4 (45:52):
I'm doing good?
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Hey, let's just dive right into we haven't had a
chance to really discuss this last week we have with
Charlie kirk assassination. We had all kinds of production, not
just rescheduling right because of that took president over everything.
And I'm talking to my producer right now, Thomas. Do
you have a clip of that Charlie Kirk shooting?
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Ready?
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Okay, he's going to try to find one. But Chris,
what I want to talk about? And I've said this
multiple times on the show this week. If I would
have stood in front of that audience five minutes before
Charlie Kirk got started and said, Hey, I'm from Sat.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
One two three. I have a ballistic backpack.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Anybody would like to have a biobilistic backpack. Maybe a
couple of people would say, you know what, that's a
great idea, but the rest of them be like, come
on whatever. Ten minutes after Charlie Kirk's neck explodes and
I'm standing out there in a parking lot, I'm selling
ballistic backpacks. I'm going to sell out in seconds. This
(47:05):
is exactly what you and I have been talking about
for months now. And we have gone been going over
church shooting, school shootings. We've been gone all the catastrophes
in America, in the world. That's the first thing I thought,
I know, that sounds crazy. I'm watching the shooting. My
wife comes down and says, look at what happened to
Charlie Kirk. And I go from watching Charlie Kirk to
(47:26):
watching the audience to see their reaction. And I'm thinking,
and I like to get your perspective on this. I'm
watching from a law enforcement guy. I'm watching two thousand
sitting ducks in a pond.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
So if the.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Shooter wanted to open up, like open up with a
M four something automatic and just sprayed the crowd, he
would have killed hundreds, hundreds just be able to reload
and shoot, reload and shoot because they're sitting ducks.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
What's your take on what you saw?
Speaker 12 (47:56):
Yeah, I mean, first of all, with JJ, look, the
situation you just described is kind of like what happened
in Las Vegas a few years back. Right, Well, you've
got a shoot her up there. He's taking all the
time in the world. He's just picking people off. And
you know, I guess the only silver lining from what
happened was that this guy didn't, you know, keep shooting, right,
I mean, that was you know, if you want to
(48:18):
look for silver learning, that's the only one. But it
doesn't mean to say that that's not what will happen
next time. And unfortunately, every week when I come on,
we might be planning to talk about this or that
or some something crazy that's going on, and then there's
another shooting, you know, and whether it's in a school
or it's it's a figure like.
Speaker 10 (48:37):
Charlie Cooke, I mean, it just keeps happening.
Speaker 12 (48:40):
And you know, this is exactly why we developed not
we have the ballistic backpack, which I believe you have
one of those for your some of those for your family.
But We also have a ballistic laptop case which you
can hold up in front of you and do the
same thing. But the reality is is that, you know,
if you're at a public event or out in public,
you know, there's a chance that you could get involved
(49:02):
in something like this. You could be you know, you
could be shot, and so you know, what are you
going to do if you find yourself in that situation.
I mean, the only thing you can do is have
some kind of protection, and as you know from being
in law enforcement, you would never leave and go out
on a job without without your bullet proofess and other ammunition,
you know, So why would you want to do that
at a public event. I mean, it's really sad to
(49:24):
say that this is the kind of gear that you
need today, But we developed this because it's that one
two three dot com. We got tired of seeing people
just mowed down, kids in classrooms getting killed because they
had no way to protect themselves, you know.
Speaker 10 (49:38):
So that's when we came up with a backpack.
Speaker 12 (49:40):
And you know, maybe if a few more people had
had some of these, or someone standing in front of
them with wearing one of our backpacks, maybe things would
have been different.
Speaker 10 (49:49):
But you know, we're just looking forward.
Speaker 12 (49:51):
The only thing that you can do is you can
be prepared for, you know, when this happens again, and unfortunately,
I think it is a when. Obviously at this point,
these things keep happening, but having some kind of protection
for yourself, FIA, kids, for your family, Like I think
it's almost insane to leave the house without it these days.
Speaker 10 (50:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
I am sad and I say that every time that
I pitched this is I say, Okay, I can't believe
I have to say this out loud, but I dropped
my son off at school again and I felt some
comfort that he had a bulletproof backpack. I mean, that's insane.
Thomas says he has this clip. I just for my audience.
I know they've seen it all, but I want you
to look at it from a different lens. If you
(50:32):
had some kind of shield to cover your head, neck,
and maybe your upper chest, it makes a big difference.
Go ahead and play this, Thomas. Just just give our
audience the idea what we're the visual we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Account say, we're not doing a game.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Oh my god, there's nowhere to run, Chris, there's I mean,
they're running, but there's if that guy wasn't and we
can get in this a whole nother story about a
loan shooter, and everything the FBI's told us about this
guy has been inconsistent, and I'm being kind. So if
(51:14):
it wasn't a well, let's say it was multiple shooters,
multiple crazy people shooting at will. You're in a bowl,
you have nowhere to go. What if you're the little
girl that is sitting on the bus and that savage
behind her starts to staber. What if she could have
(51:35):
seen him coming and had a ballistic backpack that she
carried her goods in and was able to use it
and be able to defend off. I mean, so it's
not just taken around, it's taken a knife. It's blunting
instruments of death.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
I believe.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
Look, I know you have sat phones and I know
the connectibility is paramount. I know you have generators. I
know you have Jen three Star because I have them.
I know you have them. But I'm telling you the
product that I want to pitch the most for you guys,
because I believe it's absolutely essential, is to have a
bulletproof backpack. I just do, Chris, I just I think
(52:14):
it's an It's almost as if you have to have it,
Like if you're going to go on a trip, I
need to grab my backpack. Okay, well I'm gonna grab
the one that has a place of shield. Why, because
we live in chaotic times, do you think that I'm
I'm I'm overreaching on this. Do you think that I'm
overplaying the need for this product?
Speaker 12 (52:36):
I mean, I wish I could say that you were,
you know, and I wish we didn't have to make
this product, and I wish it wasn't needed, you know.
But it's just the sad reality of the world we
live in today that these things keep happening. And again,
I come on here every week, and you know, we
might be planning to talk about this out or the other,
but when it comes down to it, there's a shooting,
right and that takes precedents. There's another There's more kids killed,
(52:58):
there's more people killed just sitting in work.
Speaker 10 (53:00):
You know, there's a lot of.
Speaker 12 (53:01):
Crazy people out there who have guns and they want
to cause harm and death and destruction. And so the
only thing we can do is to try and protect ourselves.
And there are lots of ways to do that. But
when it comes to being shielded from gunfire. I mean,
I think this is the number one product You're right
that we have that's a value right now that you know,
whatever else you can't can't afford, this is what you
(53:23):
need to get, you know, not just for your kids,
for yourself.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
Yeah, And Chris, tell my audience the cost, because I
think when people hear all ballistic backpack a bliss, the
vest that I would i a carrier that I would
have to go to work every day is hundreds, if
not one thousand plus dollars. Because you're thinking the technology,
that's not true. What's the cost of purchasing this backpack
like it did for my son?
Speaker 12 (53:48):
That's just one hundred and ninety nine dollars, mate, And
you know, honestly, for if you go out and get
a hof decent backpack, you're going to pay that or
a lot more. But none of those other ones will
protect you from gunfire.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Unfortunately, Chris, I don't know what we're going to talk
about next week, but I'm assuming through because of the
acceleration of violence, that it's going to not be something good, unfortunately.
But I appreciate you coming on and sharing your company.
Sat onetwothree dot com and the products that you have.
I it's paramount. Like you told, like you said to
(54:21):
my audience, well you JJ, you would never go out
in the field without your best on. You're absolutely right,
and I'm not going to send my son out into schools, churches,
amusement parks, malls without some kind of form of defense.
And that's his defense right now, is to get out alive.
So thank you very much. What a sobering week, what
(54:42):
a horrible time that we're living through in America. Thank you,
Chris said, thanks, AMINE appreciate it. Go to sat onetwothree
dot com forward slash JJ. I mean, I wish Chris
and I would go back and have conversations about where
he's at. And then I see palm trees in the
background and and laughing. It's almost as if the joy
(55:04):
of life has been sucked away from us. And I
think that should be a wake up call. And you
being just pissed off. And if you're not pissed off,
I don't know what's wrong with you. To be honest
with you, I have to sit and have conversation with
my son about school shootings, getting shot at at church. Okay, son,
(55:24):
let's go through this scenario. What happens if somebody starts
shooting through the windows like they're in Minnesota? Okay, Dad,
I'm gonna get under the pew. Okay, I mean I'm
having these conversations. Why am I having these conversations? Why
am I talking about a pedophile priest or or people
in positions of authority that Hey, to my son, Hey,
(55:46):
we have to have this conversation, Joseph, if you can't
trust anybody?
Speaker 4 (55:50):
What Dad?
Speaker 3 (55:51):
Yeah, okay, we love our priest. We think they're wonderful.
I don't spect them on or anything. But here's the reality.
Here's a statistical probability. This is this is the pedophilia
in the world. So what I need to worry about? Hey, son,
(56:13):
sit down. You have blonde hair and blue eyes and
white skin. You are considered the devil in today's society.
Let's sit down and talk about this. If that isn't
that pisses me off. If it doesn't piss you off,
I don't know. Maybe it's not happening to you and
you think, well, none's happening to me. Oh, you're gonna
(56:37):
have kids one day, God, God willing and blesses you.
Speaker 4 (56:40):
You're gonna be canceled. You're gonna be censored, You're gonna
be called vile names.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
And when it finally gets to you, maybe you're the
end of the road and you've watched everybody else get
destroyed or have their lives changed, and you're gonna be like, well,
who's gonna help me? Well, there's no one there to
help you. Where were you? I have the tagline on
(57:07):
my sub stack that I end on, and I say,
be bold and speak boldly, just like Christopher Manion was said,
you have to be involved.
Speaker 4 (57:18):
You have to speak out, you have to you have
to speak the truth.
Speaker 3 (57:24):
How did we get to a position in America where
transgender is normal, where mutilating children's bodies normal, Where killing
a baby at nine months is normal, That allowing the
whole world to come into our nation, to have over
one hundred million legal and illegal foreign nationals in America
(57:44):
is okay. When did it become okay for politicians to
call America horrible, vile names and they have dual citizenship
and allegiance to a foreign nation. When did that become okay?
When did it become okay to steal election put a
man in there that had absolute evident dementia and think
it's okay.
Speaker 4 (58:05):
When is it?
Speaker 3 (58:05):
When did we get to the point where we're releasing
violent felons onto the street for equity?
Speaker 4 (58:14):
How did that become okay?
Speaker 3 (58:15):
When did we allow our religious leaders to over decades
become pedophilia pedophile predators and it's okay. How do we
get to the point where we allowed our religious leaders
to tell us to push this effeminate, this impotent, this
(58:37):
this flaccid gay Jesus on us that God is some
some freak that that loves transgenderism and then everything's okay.
Speaker 4 (58:49):
How did we get to this point?
Speaker 3 (58:51):
I'm going to tell you how, because you remain silent
in the face of evil, You did nothing in the
face of evil.
Speaker 4 (58:59):
You remained a coward. That's how we got here.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
That's how we're living in this incessuous cesspool in America
right now. And if you think, well, you know, it's
not that, it's not that bad. Really, you know it's
that bad. You know it's that bad. We all know
(59:26):
it's that bad. Some of us have a better understanding
of the depth of how bad it is, and some
people are just waking up. We all sense it. It's here,
evil is roaming and evil is winning because we remain silent,
(59:46):
because we are afraid. On some level, we're afraid of something.
Stop being afraid. Why don't you be bold and speak
boldly and believe in what you believe in and why
you believe it. It's time to get the game. America,
our nation, the soul of our nation, is at stake.
Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
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