Demons, demonology & exorcism. (TS CLASSICS)

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Greetings and salutations, friends. Weare live now tonight. I thought

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we would do a strange one andgo down a rabbit hole. I haven't
been down for quite some time.See. I grew up Catholic, and
in the Catholic faith there is astrong belief in the dark forces of nature,
known commonly as demons. I rememberbeing a Catholic school curious kid and

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learning about the Battle of the Angels, in which many angels rebelled against the
one true God, and what happenednext, according to Christian faith, is
that those fallen angels became the demons, the dark forces against God and his

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divine plan. Wasn't sure what tobelieve, and I asked probably more questions
than I was supposed to, butit seemed like the priests really didn't want
to discuss those dark forces. Thingsgot stranger when I got a little older

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and started doing research of my owninto demons and demonology. I was surprised
to discover that many faiths, theologians, and scholars studied these things called demons,
classified these things, even found theirnames, their attributes, and more.

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The amount of information out there aboutdemons is tremendous if you care to
look for it. But after yearsof studying these things, I was still
left not really knowing are demons realor are they a conjured fantasy from us

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these clever humans. I'm still notsure what to believe. But further study
into the subject of demons, ofcourse, gets you to the subject of
exorcisms. Friends. It's an amazingand terrifying thing to realize that demons,

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actual demons, dark spirits, canpossess the body of a living human all
throughout history recorded history, there areaccounts of demons and demon possession in most

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major faiths. There are demons,sure, they go by different names and
different ideas I suppose about their nature. We have the Arabic, the Jins.
We have the Christian and Christian beliefsof devils or demons, unclean spirits,

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those fallen angels and friends. Ialways found it fascinating that the gods
of the old religions always become thedevils or demons of the new religion that
takes prominence. The best example ofthat, I believe is Lucifer, the

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Roman god, a bringer of light. When Christianity began to spread and really
take hold as the prominent religion,suddenly Lucifer, a Roman god who was
supposed to be the bringer of light, became a symbol of evil, a
symbol of those fallen angels that rebelledagainst God. It's all a little confusing

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to most people. I don't believethat I've ever gotten a biblical scholar,
a theologian, a priest, areverend, a minister to adequately explain to
me exactly how a Roman god whois the bringer of knowledge and light suddenly
becomes a symbol of evil and isnow no longer to be worshiped, venerated,

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or acknowledged as a god. Now, of course many of this,
many of these things I suppose haveto do with monotheism versus polytheism. But
still it's strange to me. It'svery strange how this all somehow worked out.

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Later, I got interested in actualpossessions, and being a young curious
Catholic boy, I was able toactually get a hold of the the Roman
rites of exorcism, the Roman rituals, and see exactly the prayers and sequences
of things that the Roman Catholic exorcistsuse to drive these demons out anyone.

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If you're interested, you can lookup the Roman rights, and I believe
you can find a text files orpdf online of the actual It's sort of
the manual for Catholic priests who areengaging with these unclean demons, devil's evil
spirits, on how to return themback to where they came, how to

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drive them back. It's an interestingread if you're interested in actual, real
exorcisms as opposed to the Hollywood hypedup variety. Right, And so we're

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going to continue our discussion in justa moment, but I have to take
a break, So we're going toplay. Uh, We're going to open
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back. I apologize friends. SometimesI forget that some of these glasses I
cannot see through well at all,and these get all fogged up. So
I was literally running blind there,trying to figure out how I'm going to
run all this stuff without being ableto see anything. But it is what
it is. We adapt and overcome. So thank you for indulging me on

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a short break. First, let'sturn our attention to the live chat.
Give some shout outs. I seeout of Mind. Shout out to out
of Mind, Carol Lee, JonasSide that Don Craze Phase, Collie Armstrong,
Welcome Collie Armstrong, Lee Veltman ishere. Did you put down the
que conspiracy stuff for a little while? Jonas Side is here. Let me

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see by Bramer Raynov. I didn'twant to say that wrong. Sorry,
there. Friend UH is here aswell. KB is here from Texas,

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all the way from Texas. WelcomeKB, and you see today see everyone.
I think so and friends. SoI've been interested in demons and demonology
probably since Catholic school. I meanI remember being very curious and answering the

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priest a lot of questions, tothe point where they were wondering why it
was so interested in demons and devils. Call me a curious young boy,
I guess. So. I originallystarted studying these things, mostly because the
priests wouldn't really helped me with mycuriosity about them. And you know,

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we see this exorcism is the actualamount of exorcisms, this is an interesting
note, are rising rapidly throughout theworld, especially in South America a few
other places. And I wonder whythat is. Are there more demons invading

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human hosts. Even the Catholic Churchlately, who usually downplays the right of
Catholic exorcism, has been sort ofpumping and admitting, you know, pumping
exorcists exorcisms and admitting that they havemore priests now whose sole responsibility it is

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to exercise demons than ever before intheir history. This is what I'm hearing,
and that is a strange thing.Why is that? Why are exorcisms
on the rise. I would thinkthat with our advancements in science, we
would learn to recognize a lot ofthese people's conditions as mental conditions and not

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truly some paranormal or supernatural event likea demon possessing them. But despite the
rise in science and understanding of thehuman mind and mental illnesses, exorcisms lately,
friends are on the rise. Andit's not just the Catholics. There

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have been a tremendous explosion of fundamentalistsProtestant Christian ministers who are really pushing exorcisms,
and it's sort of turned into acottage industry for some. They hold
these events where you two can comeand have your demons exercised for a couple

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of bucks. I'm not sure we'regoing to actually get into unpacking what some
of these people charge for this service, which I just don't understand charging somebody
money to exercise their demons, rightwhen you think that if they're being tormented
and possessed by a demon, youwould want to help them and not just

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be thinking about your pocketbook. Theseare some of the things that make me
shake my head and wonder is someof this real or are some people just
profiting from people's belief that they're possessed. One thing of note, which is
very important is that at least Catholicshave a very strict policy. You know,

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first they have to eliminate mental illness. Then they have to basically eliminate
all possibilities. So for a Catholicpriest to get approval to exercise a demon
from a person, there has tobe the approval of the local bishop,
who will evaluate the case on itsmerits and decide if it's a genuine exorcism

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or excuse me, if it's agenuine case of demon possession or something much
less, you know, supernatural.Interestingly, one of the things where Catholics
is there has to be actual evidenceof supernatural activity. You know, there
has to be the person, forexample, if they spoke languages that they

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were never familiar with while in thethroes of this demon possession, and that's
one proofer for knowledge or recognition,knowing psychically, for example, what the
priest's mother's name is is actually oneof the provers If that, if the
person is truly possessed, then thedemon has some supernatural ability to know things

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about the priest and the person theexorcist that no one should know. The
person shouldn't know these things, andwe find evidence of priests sort of being
manipulated by these demonic forces based ontheir knowledge of say their childhood, you
know, or past traumas, andeven mocking them about past traumas. But

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my point being that the Catholics arevery I think, careful in diagnosing when
someone is actually possessed by a demon. Others seem to be not so concerned
with whether the person is actually possessedor just a little crazy, delusional,
wishful thinking. I mean, Ihave watched many of these Protestant sort of

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revivals where they gather all these peopleand perform exorcism. At their after exorcism
and many of the people involved willbe interviewed and they basically blame the demon
for everything that is wrong in theirlife, you know, everything. And
so part of me thinks that someof this is just wishful thinking? Is

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it wishful thinking? If I justgo to this minister and he exercises my
demons, I will then, youknow, be able to move on with
my life, get over these terriblethings in my life that I've been blaming
this demon for. I'm not surehow this works psychologically, but there seems
to be a lot of psychology atplay in some of these cases. Still,

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there are terrifying cases that I can'texplain as anything else other than this
person has been possessed by a demon. I want to play a clip from
this. This is called The Deviland Father Amorth and it's exorcism caught on

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film scene and there's a I thinkthere's a film like exorcism call Exorcisms Caught
on Film, and this is oneof those. And it is, uh,
it's really, it's absolutely it's reallyabsolutely terrifying. I want you to
pay special note to this woman's voicein this clip that we're going to play

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now. I don't know if theyadded some kind of effects to her voice.
I don't think they did, andif they didn't, it makes this
clip terrifying because no person's voice shouldbe able to do that naturally. Yeah,
and it's just one of those scarythings. I'm stupid and watch stuff
like this late at night, youknow, during a thunderstorm, and wonder

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why I can't sleep. But it'skind of it's kind of fun to be
afraid, right, It's fun tobe scared. That's why haunted houses are
so popular, and that's why peopleare always interested and scary stories, right,
horror stories, ghost stories. Butthis is a step beyond a ghost

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story. This is a step beyonda fictional movie or you know, a
fictional work, because this, Friends, is reported to be a real demon
inside a real woman being exercised bya real Catholic priest, an exorcist and
father Amorth. He's he's kind offamous, famous as an exorcist, Catholic

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exorcist. I guess he's well knownto people that are interested in demons and
exercising them. So we're going toplay a clip from that, because it's
about to get creepy in here,Friends, and it's considered it's about to
get creepy. Let's yeah, let'sget creepy. There we go, let's

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get a little more creepy. I'dalso like to mention that tonight we've got
lasers. Kind of hard to see, but there's some weird laser effects that
we've finally gotten working now, hopingto make them a little more visible.
Didn't have time to really set,but let's take a look at this.

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Let's take a look at this realCatholic exorcism, because friends, this one
scared me. This one made mego. I had to watch this a
bunch of times because it's pretty compelling. Okay, and I just want to
say that this is a transformative work. We're educating the public about demons and

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demon possession and exorcisms and the Catholicright of exorcism. Therefore, this is
fair use. We're going to becritiquing and discussing the contents of the video
and again using it for educational purposes. This is fair use. Okay,
friends, let's let's watch this.As I mentioned, this woman's voice is

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doing things that to my ears,I don't know. It just doesn't sound
human to me. It sounds morethan human. It sounds like somebody puts
some kind of effects on her voice. I don't know that they did for
this clip. I'd like to interviewsomebody that was in on creating this or
filming it to verify that they didor did not in post production add some

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kind of effect to her voice,because it's it's really terrifying. Other worldly
voice to me means well, asdid you see this stuff? He stopped.
No, tell if he stops notgoing up. So the priest is

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commanding the spirit, the evil spirit, to depart and he and the demon
is replying no, screaming no,and uh again. It looks like it's
taking a few pretty big men tohold her down while this is taking place,
which is another common trait of exorcisms. People being exercised display what someone

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would say is superhuman strength. Thedemon is saying, we are armies,

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armies. Another common trait of demonicpossession is that an entire legion of demons
will be possessing the human host,or at least the demons speaking through the
human host, claims that a legionof demons, who are we? We
are legion, we are armies.This is a very common trait of I've

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seen this in many, many differentcases of exorcism, that the demon claims
that we are a legion. Weare this demon, we are that demon.
It's not just one demon. Buthe does you there, he does.
That's the idea, Katie like youagain? Yeah? That was there?

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God? Yeah, and friends.Uh. This kind of goes on
and on and on with the priestscommanding her you know, you know,
commanding the demon to depart and thedemons refusing studio release. You know,

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he was a lady there. Wehaven't carried the legends. One thing I'd
like to mention about, uh leastthe Catholic right of demon exorcism, is
that the exorcist, the exorcism cango on for days and days and days

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and take many many sessions, manymany hours. What we're saying is very
short clip, probably a short clipthat shows the most activity from the from
the supposed demon, But these thingsgo on for hours and hours and hours.
I found supportive evidence that many priestsor exorcists will go do an eight
hour ten hour prayer session just likethis over a person until they're completely and

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totally exhausted, and then sort ofquit for the day if if it has
not been successful, and start againthe next day. Man Like I didn't
see, okay, strap out ofthat. So you know, according to

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some other sources that I found thisperson, this girl and in this exorcism,
has had this father do ten exorcismsbefore she finally was alleviated of the
demon and the demon did not return. There was some early exorcisms and then
the demon would return some time later. But I believe, to the best

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of my knowledge, this poor girlis now demon free. Now I mentioned
the proliference of Protestant sort of nondenominational Christian they like to include everybody,
you know. It's kind of almostlike made up churches somehow are going around

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doing these demon you know, doingthese events where you can be exercised of
your demons. And probably the personthat gets the most attention for this kind
of stuff is a particular person thatI found some time ago. And some
of those some of those clips ofhim performing these exorcisms are kind of ridiculous.

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They're just a room full of people. There's somebody screaming that they're possessed,
and no, I won't go whenhe's going, Jesus commands you.
And one of the things about thisReverend Bob Larson that is an important note
is that not only has this beena business for him, I suppose it's
become a sort of a family business. And I believe his daughters, his

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three daughters, also are involved indemon possessions somehow. And I don't know
how I feel about I don't knowhow I feel about a whole family of
demon exercisers running around taking money frompeople to exercise their demons. But you
know, it sort of is whatit is. So I found a clip
that was relevant to Bob Larson becausehe was on Anderson Cooper's like daytime show.

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I don't know if Anderson Cooper's stilltrying to be Oprah and do a
daytime show, but he did forsome time and he had this reverend Bob
Larson on his show. We're goingto cite fair use. Fair use will
be discussing and educating the public.We'll be discussing the contents of this clip
and critiquing. We will be educatingthe public. This is the definition of
fair use. So I'm going tosay fair use, and let's see if

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we can't share that for you,okay, And this clip is called how
much does an Exorcism Cost? BecauseI think it's important that we sort of
unpack how much this guy is gettingpaid to do this, because you know,
I just keep coming back to this. If somebody's really possessed by demons,

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are you going to be holding thecollection played out while you're getting rid
of their demons or a you're goingto help them? Doesn't make much sense
to me. And so listen,I grew up Catholic, and I've read
the Roman Catholic rituals that are involvedwith exorcism. It's a very serious thing.
It's not a pt Barnum event whereeverybody comes and watches demons be exercise.

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It's a private thing, and foronce in my life, I'm going
to side with the Catholics. Youknow, I like to joke that I'm
a recovering Catholic, haven't been Catholicfor a long long time. But in
this case, I think that theCatholics are a little more credible when it
comes to exorcisms. So let's takea listen here a moment. Friends.

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Oh, you're getting paid and he'strying to justify it with travel expenses.
Okay, two friends can find outif you're possessed by a demon for just
nine to ninety five. Please includea self address stamped envelope. Yeah,
so, Bob Larsen is perhaps themost famous. And then boy, things

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get even stranger from here, becauseyou know, I found another one with
like teenage girls deciding that they're goingto be exorcists and fight demons, which
this thing has a very I don'tknow, Buffy the Vampire Slayer feel to

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it. It's really ridiculous, andI don't know why somebody would actually go
to a I don't know why somebodywould go to a teenage girl if they
thought they were truly possessed for helpwith their demon possession. But okay,
so again we're going to share onemore clip, and this is this is

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from ABC News and George Stephanopolis Ithink did a story on these teen girls
perform exorcisms, young Texas exorcists trainedto fight demons. It's it's kind of
ridiculous, but it's part of thestory. Right. Why are demon possession

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cases rising? And why is there'sso many people popping out of the woodwork
saying that they're going to become exorciststoo. It's definitely strange. Let's play
the clip. See where we're at. Okay, and again I'm going to
cite fair use we're educating the publicabout demons and demon possession and the right

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of exorcism, and the rise ofeven something like teenage girls claiming that they
are now exorcists. I'm going tosay we are now with those real life
Charlie's Angels, young women who believethey are fighting real demons by performing exorcisms.
They're actually graduates of an exorcism schoolrun by a Texas preacher, one
of a growing number of quote deliveranceministries that are causing controversy in many parts

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of the country. Maybe sees DanHarris brings us a story. They're black
belts and karates, they're ace horsebackriders, and they're also demon fighters.
Yeah, these three girls are goingto fight your demons. I kind of
think these girls watch too much Buffythe Vampire Slayer. That's just my personal

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opinion. But let's see, we'rejust normal girls who do something extraordinary for
God. The leader of the packBrinn, they call her the Enforcer.
She's seventeen, homeschooled, and aregular on the beauty pageant circuit. Then
there's Savannah, the compassionate one.She's twenty, a college student and she

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likes to shop and finally tests themiddleman because she can do both good cop
and bad cop. She's seventeen andshe performs in musicals. What do you
say to people who just don't believethis stuff at all? After seeing an
actual extorcism in person led by us, you will walk away with no doubt
whatsoever. Their teacher is Brin's father, Bob Larson, who says he's been

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an eck And as I mentioned this, Bob Larsen found a really good cash
cow here, so good in fact, that he's training his daughters to also
be exorcists. And this guy reallyis the pt Barnum of the exorcism crowd
somehow. This guy, you know, he's great at getting publicity for himself

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and has been for quite some time, exorcists for thirty years, and claims
demons are much more common than manypeople think. I know it sounds controversial,
but maybe half the population of theworld. Yes, this woman's name
is Gina. It's her first exorcism. The girls summoned the demon within her,

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and then the demon apparently takes overGina's body and speaks to receive.
But isn't it possible that if peopleare coming to you and they happen to
be mentally ill and you were givingthem an exorcism, that maybe you're making
them worse. No, we do, no, of course, not,
of course not. I think it'svery irresponsible of this gentleman to let his

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daughters pretend to exercise demons from people. I just think it's irresponsible as a
parent. This under dad's supervision.We never do it alone. But her
dad, Bob Larson, has beenaccused of being a fraud. The argument
I would imagine is this guy istaking money from people who really need psychiatric
help, and he's charging the moneyto perform these bogus. We now,

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wait a minute, nothing fast.So is anybody who has a responsible position
in the public eye, and wehave to fund what we do. Whatever
you think of what Bob Larson andhis young proteges are doing, I believe,
in one God, we may beabout to see much more of them.

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Larson says he's currently weighing several offersfor new reality shows starring the girls
for Good Morning America, Dan Harris, ABC News Phoenix. Yeah, I
should have seen that one coming,and you can find a lot more about
it. Yeah, we're going toget a We're going to get a reality
show, so friends, it iswhat it is. I also found some

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a lot of information about how toknow that you are possessed or not.
I have here. In April twentyfifteen, the Vatican Congregation for the Clergy
of the Sacrados Institute hosted a seminartrooms Regina Apostolism Apostleorium University specifically aimed at
training priests and lay people in spottingthe differences between psychological problems and demonic possessions.

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The conference included interventions from a widerange of experts in the field of
exorcism, including practicing exorcists, medicalprofessionals, psychologists, lawyers, and theologians.
So as early as twenty fifteen theyhad a conference just to train more
priests in the Catholic right of exorcism. As I said, there's been an

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increase I guess, sort of demandfor these kind of services in the Catholic
Church especially. Yeah. So hereI have the Catechism offers further guidance on

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how to avoid demonic activity. Anythingthat involves recourse to Satan demons or the
attempts to conjure the dead or revealfuture events is to be rejected. This
is something I remember from Catholic faithgrowing up. It is against the Catholic
faith, of course to do manyof these things, and they believe that
it invites demonic forces into your life, which could begin with There's also besides

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possession, there's oppression if you engagein these dangerous activities. Let me see,
consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots,
the phenomena of clairvoyance, the recourseto mediums all concealed a desire for power
over time history, and in thelast analysis, other human beings as well,

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wish to consolidate hidden powers. Theycontradict the honor, respect, and
loving fear that we owe to Godalone. So according to probably Christians too,
most Christians that I know, allthese things could be inviting demonic possession
into your life, and this cancause you know, this is inviting demonic

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activity into your life, and thiscould cause both oppression and possession. But
as a young rebellious child, Ilove that stuff, right. Yeah,
I'm going to play with Luigi Bord. Yeah, I'm going to buy some
tarot cards. It's a local malland see if I can tell the future.
Yeah, I'm going to read somebooks about magic and conjuring dead spirits,

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communication with the dead. I experimentedwith lots of that stuff, never
felt any demon's presence, but itis what it is. That's part of
the belief structure, and the priests, especially, like I mentioned a few
times before, I had been caughtsort of playing with these things by my

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family, and my father made mego to classes. I had to go,
you know, had to go dealwith these priests, gave me counseling
sessions on why it's so dangerous tobe involved in these things. So,
without any further ado, my friends, we're going to turn our total attention
to the live chat. Sorry togo. That's about all I have for

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our presentation other than there is agreat deal of Other than to say that
there's a great deal of material thatyou can study on demons, demonology,
and the right of exorcism. It'sinteresting. It's interesting that the Jews have

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their own sort of right of exorcismand that involves the Diboc, which we
covered previously. The Muslims have asort of form of exorcism that involves casting
unclean or demon spirits out of ahuman host. The Christians and Catholics of
course do as well. But wefind we also find mention of spirits possessing

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a human in many other culture's religions, and it seems to be a universally
held truth that other entities can possessand possess a human host. Channeling may
be considered a form of possession.A spirit or entity will possess a human

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host and then is channeled through thehuman host. Not a real big believer
in channeling or channeled information, butthat could be considered too a form of
human possession. So if you're interestedin demons, demonology, and especially exorcism,
there is a great deal of informationto be had. Maybe we'll do

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a part two about this subject,talking about specific cases. I have a
lot of information on the young boywho was possessed that the Hollywood movie The
Exorcist was actually based on. Andit's a terrifying tale of this young boy

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being literally tortured by demons for yearsuntil sufficient help could be found to free
him from those demons. It's thereal life. It's the real life story
of the exorcism. And who amongus has not watched The Exorcism and been
terrified? Right, It's a terrifiedmovie. It is a probably because of

(44:05):
the basis of reality and the realstories about exorcism, it makes it more
terrifying. Well, friends, let'sturn our attention to the live chat.
If we have any questions comments,please put them in all caps, and
if anybody would like to call in, yeah, and Don Craid's face says

(44:29):
Wilcox is possessed by ra Yeah he'she's somehow possessed by a demon. Yeah,
I don't think so. But okay, now, friends, let me

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see I just watched a documentary onBashar narrative by James Woods. You know
I want to see that Don crasface. I have not seen that yet.
And here we are again with thisone second, let me just adjust
things because I like, I don'tlike my mug being covered by your comments.
People. Okay, let's see goodcomment here. KB. My dad

(45:17):
suffered from manic bipolar depression, wasin and out of insane asylums the day
he committed suicide. The whites ofhis eyes were yellow and he was speaking
in tongues. KB. That isa terrifying story. I'm sorry about your
father. If he would like to, I would love to hear the whole
story sometime. That would be uh. You know, I understand that's pretty

(45:38):
personal though, and I'm sorry thathappened to you. The soundtrack was cool.
Yes, definitely saw that movie inhigh school and didn't sleep for the
rest of my teenage years unless thelight was on. Hello, see Cabot,
I don't believe that we have seenyou here before, and if not,

(46:00):
welcome. Welcome to truth Seekers.I hope that if you like this
kind of content, you will likecomment and especially subscribe and hit that notification
bell. We're really trying to growthe audience, so welcome new live chat
member, see cabin. I alwaysgot to forget that I'm supposed to do
this begging for money pitch every timewe do a show, and I'm going

(46:22):
to do the quick version, andI also have some news. So there
is two ways to support the showhere financially, and we could really use
your support. The first way isto donate on Patreon. It's just a
dollar and we give sort of abackstage pass. This month's benefits included sort

(46:42):
of an audio file announcement of thisincredible computer that I'm working on, and
also some information about Altos and Ido it daily or I excuse me,
I do a monthly journal just aboutthe show, what's going on backstage,
what I'm working on, and thePatreon we'll get to hear all of that.
If anybody has any suggestions for othergifts that I could give the Patreon

(47:06):
people to entice them to give metheir monthly dollar. I'm all years.
The other way to support me isthere is a PayPal donation button on the
channel. Just go to the aboutsection and there is a way for you
to donate at one time donation byPayPal, And we don't have super chat
donations here, so we're using thatand I call it the NASO super chat

(47:30):
donations. I'm still trying to figureout a way to get to get somebody's
message up on the screen. Butif you donate it, this is very
important. Please make sure that youput your add a note at comment and
put your name that you use inthe live chat because a lot of these
PayPal donations are giving me people's realnames. I don't want to call it
your real name. I will callit your name in the chat if you

(47:52):
include it in the note, andyou can write whatever you like and I
will read it on our show here. Hopefully soon we'll have a way to
rapidly play these comments from the PayPaldonations up on the screen. Very big.
I do want to thank immensely wehad also again, I'm still trying
to find this person. On Julytwenty eighth's somebody donated five dollars to me

(48:15):
and I again they gave me.It's like their real name in the PayPal.
So if you donated five dollars,please let me know that that was
you, and then give me yourlive chat user ID and I will thank
you very much. So this unknownperson actually thank them three or four times.

(48:35):
Thank you very much. But youshould be recognized for your kind donation.
Let me know who did that.On July twenty eighth, now there
was another five dollars donation from BrandonYoung. This is a different donation so
it was not Brandon Young, butthank Brandon Young very much. And we
have had donations from Remsea this monthand from Beg's as well. They all
have my sincere thanks and my attitudeof gratitude for them helping us to grow

(49:00):
the show. Now let's see.Okay, so that's how you can give
me a few bucks to keep theshow running. Now there's good news this
month. First of all, we'vegotten this multi camera setup working, which
is great. It's a little betterthan one camera. The other thing is

(49:22):
that as of today we have upgradedthe microphone and I think it is sounding
much much better. And again boththe extra webcams to do the multi camera
setup and the new microphone was suppliedgenerously by the Patreon people and by the
people donating the PayPal donations. Soevery bit of money that we get really

(49:45):
goes back into the show for improvementswe'd like to make. We're reaching a
point where there's not much left todo, you know, there's always improvements
to be made. But I justwant to thank you guys, every single
one of you who are donating onPatreon. You have my sincere gratitude because
I would not have been able toget this show up and running and all
of this stuff working without your helpand kind assistance. It is appreciate it

(50:09):
immensely. Okay, let's go backto live chat. Catholicism is bad sometimes,
but not all bad people. Somebeautiful folk happy enough to give you
a buckem on Steven excellent channel.Let me know. Yeah, Collie,
I don't know if you're already aPatreon supporter, but if not, you

(50:29):
just go to patreon dot com,backslash Stephen Cambion, or you can somebody
can put the Patreon. If somebodycan put the Patreon address in the in
the live chat, I would appreciateit. Hold on one second, friends,
it's appropriate that we're talking about demonsbecause it's as hot as hellum here,
and again we're struggling with this airconditioner issue. There's really nothing I

(50:52):
can do except suffer through it forthe next I don't know, two or
three weeks probably, but it iswhat it is, just little hurdles in
the way. Really. Yeah,and here's the live call in line if
anybody would like to call into theshow. We have a sort of ramshackle
system, but people should be ableto hear you if you call in and

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we want to discuss this, youknow this story or any other story we've
discussed previously, or you want totell your own story about your supernatural experiences.
Okay, let's see what's the differencebetween possession and other worldly spirits doing
a walk in. I don't believein satan, but do you believe spiritual

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beings we don't understand could walk inenter into our dimension. William Pixleigh,
anything is possible. I really don'tknow. I've heard a lot of talk
about other dimensional beings. Jason Quinntalks about other dimensional beings, which may
be demons or maybe something else entirely. We just don't know. It's a

(51:59):
great, great mystery and thanks toout of Mind. Here here is the
Patreon Collie Armstrong. It's right inthe live chat there if you can click
on it and add your dollar ofsupport. We don't have tears with my
Patreon. Everybody just gets everything forthe dollar, but it's dollar minimum.
You can give me ten dollars amonth. You could give me ten thousand
dollars a month if you really likethe show, that would be great,

(52:21):
right, But I appreciate every singleperson giving a dollar or more. It's
really left up to you. Butthe minimum buy in to get the benefits
is a dollar. There was twoposts last month to Patreon. One was
this announcement of One was the announcementof this computer. And by the way,
if you guys will indulge me,I cannot believe that this is actually

(52:46):
real. It's out of my imaginationand it's in the real world. And
what friends, what an amazing thingthat is that it's out of my imagination
and it is in the real world. This computer project that I've been trying
to I don't know. I gotthis idea as a child and it involved

(53:10):
massive It involved a computer with alot of coprocessors to take the main load
off of the main CPU. Thelaw of the general law that or believe
that computers double empower every year isreaching its end. In other words,

(53:36):
the gravy train is almost over.It's not going to be able to continue.
We're not going to be able tocontinue to make processors twice as fast
every year. That is ending.So the only route forward is massive coprocessors.
So, friends, I've been developingthis idea for some time. I'm

(53:58):
going to I'm going to take alittle victory lap right and celebrate that the
progress that I've made towards that dreamto build this crazy I don't want to
call it a new kind of acomputer, but it's it's an innovative thing,
and I'm very proud of the progressmade so far. I just started

(54:22):
really getting serious about working on thisthing again. It's been an off again,
on again passion for some time.But here we are. Friends.
Let me see. This is mycompany, Spectral International's first prototype. Now
we've got the form down and itis interesting. It is an all in

(54:46):
one wedge shaped design. The keyboardis attached to the case. Everything is
all in one box, which maybe familiar to some people who grew up
with computers like that. The otherthing of note is that right under the
main keyboard there is a keyboard garagefor a secondary keyboard and Malese Combo,

(55:10):
which is wireless that sort of slidesunderneath this. And what can I say,
folks, I guess I could readthe announcement Spectral International's first computer prototype,
code name the one. Here's afirst look at the first prototype,
the one. This is a proofof concept machine. We are still developing

(55:30):
some custom parts and internal components.Still I am beyond pleased and how it
came out so far. So there'sa world premiere the first look of my
company's computer prototype, the one,And that is just a code name.
It's not going to be the retailname of the product, but it is
what it is. Friends. I'mjust happy that this thing is out of
my imagination and it's into the realworld. Lots more work to be done

(55:53):
to make all the internal components workthe way that they should, but I'm
confident that we're going to be ableto do that. And what an amazing
thing that is. So the Pictreonpeople got a backstage look into that computer
that I've been pounded away on.It's sort of a mini lecture about how

(56:14):
this computer works and why it's somuch more advanced and better than your average
Windows or Mac PC. And youknow, we'll see where the road takes
me on that. But I'm justpleased that it's not going to be just
a dream anymore. That's manifested rightinto reality through hard work and determination.

(56:35):
Okay, so back to the livechat friends, Okay, let's see.
Okay, Bunya says, when Iwas studying theology, I stayed away from
those people. Pastoral care was strongerthan exorcism. Yeah, I've heard similar

(56:55):
things from people that are religious scholarsthat, you know, an exorcism is
kind of like surgery when you're terminal. The better thing to do would be
to have a spiritual practice and havea good pastor to guide you away from
that sort of dark energy so thatit doesn't infect your life. Maybe right,

(57:19):
Okay, friends, I'm not surewhat else is going on in live
chat. I haven't had one terrorizeme or anything. Oh, I guess
you're talking about demons. That soundsscary. I was looking up a link
for you, finally found it.Oh, here we go. Feeling good,

(57:45):
doctor, David E. Burns,empathy doesn't really make a difference an
effective way to help someone who's havingschizophrenic visions. That may be a good
that may be a better idea thanan exorcism. Right, So, any

(58:07):
comments are questions for me, pleaseput in the lot put them in all
caps. It's a podcast for professionalsand people just wanting evidence based self help.
I found it for post traumatic stressdisorder. David D. Burns has
also has a very helpful TED Talk. I will check that out, Philip
Blair. That's good to know CalTruth this year. She says, Hi,

(58:31):
Hi, kelt Truth. Fashionably lateagain. Fashionably late to the party
again, Cal Truth. But I'mso happy that you are here. I'm
going to try not to I'm gonnatry not to melt in here as we're

(58:52):
talking about demons and exorcisms and I'min a room that's hotter than hell.
Seems appropriate, right, Hey,and Dan Hogan is here, he says,
Steven how How what? Dan Hogan? I'm not sure what you're referring
to. I'm gonna take a moment, friends, just to check on the

(59:19):
on the twitch stream, make surethat's actually going for those that don't know.
We've began streaming our show on Twitchrecently and that's www dot Twitch dot
tv Backslash Truth Seeker Show. Ifsomebody could put that in live chat,
that would be very helpful. Ifyou're not already, please follow us on

(59:42):
Twitch now. And I'm checking that, and it looks like we are up
and running there. We're definitely upand running on Facebook, and now I'm
checking. We're definitely up and runningon YouTube. And now I'm gonna check
Facebook as well. Looked like itwas earlier. I always like to check

(01:00:04):
though, to make sure something's notwrong. You know, I guess I
have trust issues. Yes, up, we are up and running live on
Facebook Live and with quite a fewmore viewers than recently. Welcome to Facebook
Live viewers. If you like,you can comment on the video and I

(01:00:25):
will get your comment. And ifyou have a question or comment, put
it up on the screen and we'llall share in your question. Because these
different chat rooms don't intercommunicate, butif I grab the comment or question,
we will see we will all seeit. Okay, let's see how long

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do you think it will be untilyou have a computer that you can sell
retail? Dan Hogan. This isall uncharted territory for me. Here's what
I'm going to say. I thinkthat for the next six months going to
have really killer technology demonstrator. It'sgenerally called in the computer industry. It's
a proof of concept prototype which youcould show to investors, to uh,

(01:01:09):
you know, potential distributors, potentialbusiness partners that will help you manufacture or
distribute it. That's what my focusis going to be on is just get
these prototypes ready so that you know, the other stuff will work itself out.
But I would like it to bedistributed. It's actually on this computer.

(01:01:30):
I see it going one of twoways. Either it's going to be
a very niche kind of a computerthat only nerds and really really dedicated computer
fans are going to know about orbuy right so it'll be a very small
market. Or we're going to figureout how to how to really mass manufacture
produce this thing and it's going tobe everywhere. I'd like it to be

(01:01:52):
in places like Walmart or you know, a Best Buy, right alongside an
iMac or Windows PC people could buy. But that is quite a lofty ambition,
and there's many steps to making thathappen. Is it possible. I
believe it is. Is it probable, I'm not sure. You know,

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I'm a terrible I'm not a greatbusiness person. I'm a great creative thinker,
and when it comes to the businessside of things, I may bring
in help to make some of thatstuff happen. Philip Blair, thank you
so much. I definitely suffer fromPTSD. I'm thirty, so it happened
only half my life ago, butit affects everything I do. Never saw
help. I don't want to beon pills, you know, KB,

(01:02:37):
It's probably better that you've suffered throughand not been on pills, because a
lot of psycho therapy drugs they justmask the problem, right, they mask
the symptoms, but you don't.You're just self medicating and you don't get
to the root of the problem.My opinion, I'm not a psychiatrist or

(01:02:59):
a psychologist, but I'm generally againstany of those any of those kind of
drugs, any deepressants or you know, except in extreme cases where it's obvious
you need that. But I thinkwe live in an over prescribed society for
sure. You know, depressed,just take a pill, you'll be fine.

(01:03:20):
I think you've got to attack theroot cause of your depression. That's
just my opinion. Pills may nothelp most people, but I guess it
will make make people able to functionuntil they get more help. Philip Blair,
You're welcome. I hope it helps. A KBA University study gave people
doctor David D. Burns's book FeelingGood instead of pills like prozac. People

(01:03:43):
who read the book had more improvementsthan those on the pills. Philip Blair,
I need this Feeling Good book inmy life. I love stuff like
that, and if it helps youfeel good, that's my kind of book.
UFO Gandolph is here out out tothe UFO Gandolf. Gandalf says alien
DNA is very expensive. Let's seehere. This is a great comment.

(01:04:12):
Carl Gustav Young was a brilliant Christianpsychologist and never dabbled in exorcism. He
was all CBT. Closest he gotto demons was exploring archetypes. Yeah.
I think that a lot of psychologistssort of have at least an interest in
exorcism and how because they're so interestedin how the mind works. Right,
I think there's two. You know, if you're really interested in human psychology,

(01:04:39):
then something like demons and demon possessionwould certainly be of interest. And
certainly I've seen examples of some psychiatristsand psychologists who have studied demon possession and
exorcism to try to understand is itreally supernatural? Is this condition of the
human mind? You know, there'sa lot of mysteries to unpack with this

(01:05:00):
stuff. Jona Side'm not sure whatthis is about. But I can get
a gift card decks, I knowa guy in Denver and make a great
Christmas gift. Okab says, buyingit now, Philip, thank you.

(01:05:24):
Yeah, I hope you get somehelplet you know, I hope you find
it helpful. Let me know ifthat's If that's helpful to your situation,
I'd be very interested in hearing it. And this is a very good statement
from do brohm here Rainov. AndI'm guessing you're a Russian. Do brohmnre,

(01:05:45):
Wait, am I saying that right? Dobrahmre? The brohm here?
Am I saying that right to brahmhere? I want to be sure that
I say it right? The brahmhere. Yes, Christian doctrine considered epple
as possession by evil spirits and patientswere treated with exorcism. That was true
for some time and it's but it'sno longer true now. They obviously they

(01:06:10):
accept, you know, medical professionalsopinion that somebody's got somebody's got epilepsy,
rather than a demon role with them. Yes, CG. Why did not
waste time on demon folklore? I'msure that I did. Mary, he

(01:06:36):
can't be in If you could possessone person, who would it be?
And why is it? C Wchair. It's an interesting question. I
don't think he'd be high my listof people to possess. I'm not sure
who I would possess if I could. I think I would like to definitely
live a day in the life ofElon Musk though that would be That would

(01:06:57):
really be somebody that I guess ifI could spend a day in his life,
just living his life for one daythrough possessing him, I'd be I'd
sign up for that. Oh,let's see, William Pisley, I'm trying
to give you some cash, butPatreon is being a biach did the book
a month and then trying to makea lump donation, but can't see where

(01:07:18):
to do it. William Pixley.The better thing to do if you want
to make a lump donation, andwe love lump donations, Picks, so
you're our best friend is to goto the main channel. Can somebody put
the PayPal donate button in the livechapter William Pixley PayPal donut button, donate
button. You don't get donuts,it's a donation. Hold on one second,

(01:07:40):
let me see if I can't getit. I'm going to copy the
PayPal donate button. If you havea PayPal account, that's probably the best
way to make a one time donation. Let me get you that. Let
me get you that. Okay,copy, Here we go, Picks.

(01:08:01):
I'm putting the PayPal donate that's I'mnot sure about the Oh why is that
not working? I got a linkthat's like eight pages long? Let me
I got to click on the linkfirst. One second. Here we're trying
to get your money, picks.So yeah, I'll I'll figure this out.
One second. I'm gonna turn thetwitch off. All right, here

(01:08:27):
we go. Now I think Igot it. I hope, I hope
so because we would we would surelike your donation, says If he can't
get donate if he can't get buttdonuts, he's out, Okay, out

(01:08:49):
of mind, just beat me toit. But both out of mind Picks
and myself have copied the PayPal donatebutton. Just you just click on that
and it'll allow you to donate alump sum. And we like big lump
sums, right, like you know, buy a new house, lump sums,

(01:09:13):
buy a new car, lump sums. That's kind of miracle. I'm
looking for Picks. But we willtake any amount. Yes, we will
take any amount. Okay, Ithink all right, somebody on August first,
Ah, okay, let me letme look at this. Somebody just

(01:09:34):
donated five dollars. So let's takea look at that. Okay. Jonas
Side, thank you immensely, Thankyou kindly for your kind and generous five
dollars donation. Again, jonas Idedid it right. When you make a
donation, it's gonna give me yourreal name. And I don't want your

(01:09:56):
real name, and probably you don'twant me telling people your real name,
So add the note like Jonaside did, and Jonahside wrote, Jonaside, Look,
it's easy to donate, even Ican do it. Great channel,
Thank you immensely, Jonahside, yourkindness and support is incredibly, incredibly appreciated,

(01:10:18):
and they're William picks. You twocan donate just follow the PayPal donate
button and Jonahside is the is thefirst person to donate today on August first,
with a kind donation of five dollars. Okay, let's see Jeanettekrazenko.

(01:10:46):
I want to donate, but noPayPal. Yeah, I think that you
can get a PayPal gift card atWalmart. I know somebody that gets PayPal
gift cards and uses those to donateto people's channel. I don't know.
I don't know how that works.Really, William Pixley bursting my bubble,

(01:11:06):
saying, don't get your hopes up. Can I get like, I don't
know. If I can't get anew house or a new car out of
you, you know, we'll haveto negotiate. Then it's Bob the Exorcist
from the Church of the SubGenius.Yeah, that guy is Bob Larsen is

(01:11:28):
a trip. He is really atrip. Nice John and Kelly says,
if we are talking about seeing demonsor spirits and if those people are truly
gifted, are crazy? My son, at age six revealed to me that
he could see all of it andnot for a second. Do I think
he's crazy? This is a realthing. Yeah, I definitely agree with
you that demons are a real thing. Do I understand their nature? What

(01:11:54):
they truly are? No, it'sa mystery. Demons are a mystery.
And you know, maybe sometimes Ithink that we lowly naked apes, you
know, I mean, all weare is glorified monkeys. I don't think
that we've developed enough intellectual capacity tounderstand the nature of reality enough to understand

(01:12:15):
what demons truly are. But youknow, I'd like to understand them better.
Jonaside says, you're welcome. It'sprivate plane, money man, a
five dollars airplane. I'm not surethat I would feel good, but you

(01:12:36):
know, maybe we'll throw in pixis generous donation and that will allow us
to have an airplane that won't killme. Private plane. That would be
nice. But really, in themiddle of this COVID stuff, like,
what are you going to do?Okay and Picks, I see your generous

(01:12:58):
donation and listen, friends, I'msorry sorry that I don't have the graphic
thing worked out. I promised thenext show I'm going to do a graphic
and thank everybody that donated so farwith their donation amount and a big thank
you. And also yeah, andthis is a This is a ten dollars
generous donation donated by William Pixley,who did not include a note, but

(01:13:20):
luckily i'm getting his name is Pixley, So thank you kindly for your generous
ten dollars donation. You know,I'm not even sure what we're going to
be doing with some of the money, but I would like to mention that
I think it's twenty dollars more amonth to upgrade to the pro version of

(01:13:42):
the software now and now they justgot ten ADP working. So it used
to be even if you have tenADP cameras and I do, you're only
getting seven to twenty P. Andthat that is because the software stream Yard
is cloud based service, and Iguess it's too much bandwidth. Everybody's making
two hour shows. They cut itto seven twenty. They've just increased it
to TENADP, and boy, Ithink the show would look great in TENADP.

(01:14:05):
I've got good TENNDP cameras, butwe have to upgrade the software.
We may be doing that next monthThe other great news is that if I
do upgrade the software, we canadd five more destinations. So we've already
got YouTube, We've got Facebook Liveand now Twitch. We could start adding

(01:14:26):
things, you know, bitch shoot, periscope, Vimeo. I don't even
know where else we could spread theshow, but I would. I think
that's where we're going to be goingfrom here because equipment and gear wise,
we now have basically everything that weneed to run the show. But your
couple of dollars does help everybody becausethere's always something like I need a microphone
adapter, I need a webcam standI need and it's like these all these

(01:14:48):
twenty dollars parts they add up.So I use the PayPal and the Patreon
money for that. And I amreally really appreciative of that. Oh cel
truth talking about his son. He'snow almost ten and stopped about six months
ago. He started blocking it out, but was doing amazing and tripping things
for us for several years. Yeah, friends, that is very trippy.

(01:15:16):
Carol utly chimes in and says thedemons are interdimensional. Oh, Philip Blair
finding another great resource. You unzipyour body and they slide right in Vodoo
possession and gender performance. Oh youknow what, Philip Blair, I forgot
all about voodoo. In voodoo,the witch doctors will welcome a demon,

(01:15:43):
a spirit, a god. It'sreally I believe it's their voodoo. Gods
will possess the witch doctor. Theyworked themselves up into a frenzy, they
become possessed. They are welcoming withspirit. This is another voodoo is phil
with tales of possession. The practitionerswelcome, though in their case the possession

(01:16:06):
they believe that it's a god thatis possessing them. Okay, well,
friends, I'm not quite sure whereto go from here. We're reaching the
hour and fifteen minute mark and wemay call this one a short one.

(01:16:27):
I've got a few more things totry to get accomplished today before betting down
after a long day. Oh,bun, I saw a demon in the
mirror whilst tripping. It was coldand had a cruel smile. And that
was long ago, and I don'tthink it was really a demon now.
It might have been the acid youwere on. Yeah, I've never I've

(01:16:48):
never seen demons or devils while Iwas tripping on anything, thankfully, because
that's kind of a dark place thati'd rather not go. Well, i'm,
you know, on mind altering substances. Yeah, I guess I'm still
it's in a little bit here fromall this terrible sunburn. But my wife

(01:17:09):
kindly failed me some kind of weirdlotion and it's a little better. Okay,
let's see Steven. You should haveSam shadow on. He knows a
lot about this stuff. Yeah,get me in touch with him. I
would be happy to talk to thatperson. Absolutely happy to talk to that
person. Yeah, and again,I'm still looking for the July twenty eighth

(01:17:33):
five dollars donator. And if youknow what I'm going to say it,
their first name is Ryan. SoRyan, thank you kindly for your five
dollars donation. If you let meknow what your live chat idea is,
we will thank you in that wayas well. But I just want to
acknowledge you. I keep on tryingto find out who you were because I

(01:17:56):
kind of missed that one. I'mgoing to have to watch it much more
closely. Okay. I've seen afew things on some mushy myself in my
younger years. Yeah, Bunya saysan art type. Perhaps, Yeah,
it could be. You never knowwhat these things are you just never know,

(01:18:23):
Okay, lee Veltman. I knowa little about new religious movements and
cults myself besides now, and waytoo much about the Quan Larp. I
can't believe you're still following that,lee Veltman. You know, I don't
think that when you're on your deathbed, you're gonna be thinking. You know.
I wish I had spent more timereading about Q stuff, but I
guess we're all guilty. We allhave our guilty pleasures, and I feel

(01:18:45):
like that's your guilty pleasure, rightlike you follow it because it's so unbelievable
that these stupid idiots believe this shit. That's kind of how I feel about
Q stuff. Once in a whileI'll read about some of that just to
see, like, really, thesepeople believe this. How fucking stupid are
these people? So yeah, friends, I'm not a cute, not a

(01:19:05):
cue, not a Q fan.Phil Blair again talking about voodoo. The
frenzy dancing must require a lot ofheavy breathwork, truth seekers. Doctor status
Lav Graft developed the breathwork technique toinduce a psychedelic state to help his patients
after LSD was outlawed. Wow,you can get into a psychedelic state just

(01:19:27):
by breathing. I could have savedso much money on acid and mushrooms when
I was growing up if I hadknown that, Uh, out of mind.
It's fun to posticks at the qtars. To be honest, Yes
it is. LSD is back inthe doctor's office once again. It was

(01:19:49):
a long hiatus. You know,I'm not so sure about LSD and it's
medical worth or you know, I'msure some people. I've heard that LSD
has used in terminal patients and ithelps them immensely get over the depression about
dying and just accept it. That'san interesting medical use for LSD. But

(01:20:12):
more than LSD, I've heard ofthe medical benefits of a hyahuasca. I
know somebody personally who's been through likethree or four rehabs. You know,
this guy just wrecked his life forlike thirty years. He was a heroinautic,
could never stop. He would goto you know, rehab, he
would be fine for a few months, and then he would be right back,
you know, shooting up heroin andjust destroying his life, destroyed his

(01:20:34):
family. He went down to SouthAmerica and did that ayahuasca with a shaman,
and he never touched drugs. Again, there's something about ayahuasca that makes
you realize how much you're hurting everyoneelse, and it increases your empathy towards
people. Yeah, these things havebenefits, right, definitely have benefits.

(01:21:00):
William Pixley says, kelt true tostay away from the whipped cream whippets out
of mind. Just mentions Austin's queand we see them lose it. Yeah.
I followed you at first, butnothing happened, and nothing happened and

(01:21:21):
more see where I'm going. Yeah, as soon as the first prediction,
which was like Hillary Clinton's getting arrestedthis week didn't pan out, I just
stopped listening, like this is bullshit. It's just somebody making shit up.
It doesn't have any value, youknow. Jeanette Krasenco, My neighbors saw
death at the door. He literallywas on his deathbed, made his wife

(01:21:41):
cover the windows with paper. Wow. Is that so his soul woten escape
or I don't know, that's weird. I've heard similar stuff about that.
When it comes to mirrors, whythose are my favorite? Yeah, whippets,
God, I love whippets my kidsthat with cream. So you know,
when the can is done. Youdon't want to waste it. You

(01:22:04):
don'tt to waste it. Sirkatta thirtythree oh one is where you're supposed to
start. Yeah, I don't knowabout that, lee Velpman, I do
not know. So, friends,if you have questions or comments, or

(01:22:28):
you would like to call in,the call in line is still open.
You may retire. That seems like, oh, actually, yesterday I didn't
have the ringer on, so wedid get a few calls. And I
didn't have the ringer on because I'mstupid, and you know, there's too
much. There's too many balls tojuggle here. Friends, I'm gonna like
work lights, work the computer.I need a producer right to just do

(01:22:49):
everything for me, so I couldjust sit here and do the show.
But it is what it is.People who player says, yup, people
who've recovered from cancer but can't geton with their life because all they think
about is the cancer coming back.Psychedelics help them too, Yeah, I
guess it just helps you open yourmind and realize you know this too.

(01:23:11):
She'll pass. I don't know.Great for post traumatic stress disorder. I
have heard that. Knowing about LizKrunk in the Matrix, Shady Grove and
now out of the shadows. Isinteresting to know about KB. Well,

(01:23:33):
you have a wife, don't yet? Yeah, but KB, she she
takes care of the children. WhyI do this, and that's her way
of contributing. I couldn't have herhere pushing buttons. Those kids would destroy
our house, they really would.You know, I have a four and
an eight year old. But theeight year old is autistic and he's just
like a two year old toddler.Like we have everything locked down, the

(01:23:56):
cabinets that you know, he getsinto everything. You leave alone for five
minutes and you're cleaning a five poundbag of flour off of the floor,
you know, he's got to bewatched. I saw Isaiah Priest with Phoenix
Enigma talking to Kapi's parents about thelatest LARP. Yeah, I'm not keeping

(01:24:17):
up with that stuff, KP says. I know, I know I was
messing. Sorry, I know,I know I was messing. Yeah,
hell truth. I've got some ediblesfor the first time recently, and those
seem to be really helping with mypain. As well as the assholes and
crazies in the world. I write, I walk right by them, and

(01:24:39):
I'm good kel truth are you.Are you eating indica edibles though, or
sativa edibles? I'm curious because,yeah, I kind of think like dealing
with the assholes of the world ifyou were, if you eat a few
edibles, you'd be kind of calmand relaxed, right, But I think
the uh, you know, theindica is what you want if you just

(01:25:01):
want to be calm and relaxed.The sativa, you know, sort of
upit eat And I'm not quite surethat that would be helpful, you know,
because you'd be like kind of speedingsome of those Some of the sativa
really kind of speed you up,and I don't think that would be helpful
if you're trying to relax and avoidassholes. Jeanette Krazenko I like the call

(01:25:24):
in feature. Yeah, I thinkfun It was a good idea. It's
hit or missed, though sometimes peoplewant to call in and sometimes people don't.
I'm good with both. We canjust dedicate attention to the live chat.
Phil Blair, who knew after allthese years JFK Junior is back and
he's a complete nutbird. Yeah,I've heard that story too. Going to

(01:25:45):
suggest CBD oil, Yeah, sativamakes some people more paranoid too. Yeah,
I definitely could. Oh, andI did want to mention that somebody
sent me a really nice email aboutsmoking, and I know it's a terrible
habit. It's terrible, and foryears I quit smoking and just baped and

(01:26:09):
I don't know what happened, butI went back to tobacco because I'm dumb.
And today I gathered up all ofthis old I had a huge collection
of vapes, vape pens, vapebatteries, vape cartridges, all that stuff,
and I'm going to be giving aserious trying to switch back to vapes,
because at least that's a little healthier, right, baby steps. I

(01:26:34):
was told it was a blend.I don't know much about edibles because I'm
old school. Yeah. I mean, when I was growing up, we
didn't have edibles, I think,though I did go to a party when
I was in one of my rockbands. I'm sure I did where there
was there was brownies that somebody madewith pot butter, and they were delicious

(01:26:55):
and it was quite a good time. I think I ate like three or
four of these brownies and then drankon top of it. So yeah,
Interestingly, I don't think that theyhave edibles at the dispensaries where I live
in Pennsylvania. At least, Ihaven't seen edibles, you know. I've

(01:27:18):
seen it online, like people goinginto dispensaries and they get like edible gummy
bears and stuff. I've never seenthat at the dispensaries. It's just vapes
and flower out of mind. Ihave a great way to quit. I
will send it to you on Facebook. I have been tobacco for since last

(01:27:38):
October. I was a lifetime smoker. Out of mind. I would love
to see that. Love any helpthat you can give me, because that's
one thing I got to get offmy bad habit list, especially with this
respiratory illness. When this COVID thingstarted in March, I said, that's
it, I'm quitting smoking. Andhere we are in August and I still
haven't done it yet for my health, and especially in the middle of this

(01:28:00):
COVID thing. It's a respiratory illnesskilling people after all, and smokers are
having hard time with it, soit's really good time to try that.
Thanks for the edible advice. Everyone. Minor gummy bears, I get them
delivered. Oh my god, that'sawesome. I eat an edible before playing
in my punk rock days, Istopped mid song to watch playing fly By.

(01:28:21):
I did something like that Jonahs side, but it was on It was
on these LSD tabs. People rememberwhen he would get that little it was
like a like a quarter of astamp, you know, And I guess
they would put a drop of LSDon it and you would put under your
tongue. I did a show once. It did not go well. It

(01:28:44):
did not go well. I dida show tripping balls and I couldn't remember
the words and I was like lookingaround in this huge audience wasn't really huge.
It was like maybe one hundred people, but still one hundred people.
When you're tripping face and it's darkand there's a playing behind you. It
was not a good time. AndI never did that again, ever,
never, never during the show ever. Yeah. Do they still have those

(01:29:16):
places where you could go and buyI have to buy alcohol. Yes,
we have a state store system.You can't buy alcohol anywhere else anywhere else.
Oh and we have a the guylet me see the boy I'm knows
shut it down sixty four. Thankyou for being in our Twitch live chat.

(01:29:39):
What are your thoughts on the currentcommunists take over the West, the
rise of jay I d F paidchills on Twitch, and the rise of
neo Marxist Jewish supremacist an anti boyangloism. I don't know what to tell
you about any of that. Mythoughts on the current communists take over the

(01:30:00):
I don't really think that the communistsare taking over the West. I think
that socialism. A lot of peoplewant socialism, and I think that's a
reaction to the current corrupt system wherethe rich get richer and the poor keep
getting poorer. What do you thinkis going to happen. Let me see
the rise of j I d Fpaid chills on Twitch. I just joined

(01:30:23):
Twitch. Don't know anything about paidshills on Twitch, so I'm not going
to comment on that. Let mesee the rise of neo Marxist, Jewish
supremacists and anti angloism. I don'tknow if you mean like anti white sentiment.
I mean, yeah, we're seeingthat a little bit. I don't
really pay attention to those things.I'm sorry I can't be more help,
but thank you for being in ourlive chat courtesy of our new Twitch screen

(01:30:49):
stream. Please do follow us onTwitch and come over to the YouTube channel.
And follow us, you know,subscribe to the YouTube channel as well.
We're trying to grow our subscriber basedon YouTube. I would appreciate your
help. If you like this kindof talk and content, you would probably
like our show. So welcome newuser. I am also a truth seeker.

(01:31:13):
Good to know. That's what weall are here. We're all here
looking for the truth behind some ofthese stories. In nineteen sixty eight,
RFKO National Television pointed out that cannabiswas relatively harmless, especially compared to substances
like tobacco cigarettes. He was killedand Nixon went to war, went to
the War on drugs. Crazy,Yeah, I believe that cpt oh paranormal

(01:31:39):
jiggy is that colored people time,Colored people time. I love that concept.
Man, we should do like acomedy sketch about colored people time.
Like you know, you can't,you can't. You can't make jokes about
race though anymore gigg because you'll getin trouble. But it would be fun.
Out of mind. I do smoke, Jeannette, just not tobacco.

(01:32:02):
Yeah, good to know. Yeah. I used to have a friend and
he used to bug me every timeI smoked tobacco. You know, he'd
be like, why are you smokingthat? It doesn't do anything for you.
He'd be smoking this huge blood orjoint. You know. Washington State
was like that state stores, butnow grocery stores sell liquors so much easier.
I don't drink much anymore. Yeah, I think they should open it

(01:32:24):
up. And here, my friends, is the twitch out of mine kind
was kind enough to copy the twitchaddress for the twitch channel. It's www
dot Twitch dot tv Backslash Truth SeekerShow. Please follow us over there if
you're a member of twitch, thatwould be excellent, Lee Veltman, that

(01:32:46):
was more dragging than trolling. Twittersare an interesting group. Yeah, I
don't know what that was. Prettydeep first question. It was probably this
first question from the twitch chat tonight. And I'm not really monitoring the twitch
chat. I probably should to seewhat's going on over there, but I
do get all the comments in thetwitch stream, you know, in the

(01:33:10):
twitch chat come to me as well. It's just they're not shared. Philip
don't smoke, clover Man. Yeah. I was in a lot of rock
bands and goth bands and industrial sortof bands, and boy, there were
so many girls that smoked those clothescigarettes and I never. I never bought

(01:33:34):
a pack of those, but Iwould borrow one once in a while.
I missed that. Yeah, coulttruth. We got a package the other
day and it turns out that mymom accidentally ordered Tommy Chong CBD oil,
and she was like, oops,so how do we use it? Advice,
any advice. I'm not very familiarwith CBD oil, though I will
say that my autistic child has beguntaking CBD oil. We're not sure how

(01:33:58):
effective it is yet. We're stilltrying to evaluate that, but I believe
that it has a calming effect.If taken in the right dosages, it
will leave your slight muscle aches andpain. It'll take away some of the
tension in your muscles. There's alot of great benefits to CBD oil,
and that's one of the things thatI might want to sell on my show.

(01:34:21):
We'll see, we'll see where thatgoes. Dan Hogan, did you
have a chance to dig more intothose EVPs I sent you. I'm really
looking forward to hearing them with theisolated audio. Yes, I'll get with
you offline. I'm ready to dothe show with you. So you got
to pick a day. How aboutyou pick a day next week, right

(01:34:43):
Monday through Thursday, and let meknow, and then I'll bring you on
the show. And you got tohave a webcam and a mic, or
if you just even have a microphoneor just your phone even you could come
and be a guest on the showand we'll listen to them together. We'll
do sort of a world premie ofyour EVPs, which I think you're going
to be surprised. I was atthe content once. It's isolated and really

(01:35:05):
worked on, and I've done mostof the work. We just got to
get a date and time for usto do the show, so you let
me know. Never heard of aclothes cigarette? Yeah, it's like spicy
philip ware, tastes like Christmas sortof. It's weird. Clothes are weird.

(01:35:29):
Clothes cigarettes are very popular in Indonesia. I did not know that.
Jonahside says, do a dropper underthe tongue. I do one in the
morning every morning. Jonahside, whatdo you think that does for you?
Doing that shot of CBD oil everymorning? Why do you do that every
day? And what kind of effectsare you getting from it? I'm curious.

(01:35:53):
Well, okay, William Pixley mentionsthe kind that keeps the active cannaboids.

(01:36:16):
Yeah, some CBD oil does haveactive cannaboids, I believe, but
most of it is simply CBD.Clothes will aggravate high blood pressure but will
get you rushed. Yeah, I'msure they're not good for you. They're
no better for you than tobacco cigarettes. And I think there's some tobacco in

(01:36:39):
clothes cigarettes. I know because oneof the times I try to quit smoke
and I try to smoke clothes cigarettesbecause I thought, well, it's not
a cigarette. Yeah it is,it's still most of them still have tobacco
in them. Jonahside says the CBDor he takes every morning with everyday pain

(01:37:00):
and my mental attitude a lot.Well, I need all the brain power
I can get for working on thiscomputer, so I may try the CBD
oil myself. Yes, what doesthat do for you? Does it just
relax you? We have two bottles. Yes, it relaxes you. It
helps, according to Jonahside, helpswith everyday pain and his mental attitude.

(01:37:24):
Yes, leave even mentioned Charlotte's Web. That's where we got our CBD oil
for my son. I haven't triedit yet myself, but maybe i'll do
that and report back on the effectsclothes, cigarettes or tobacco soaked in a
cloth mixture. I did not knowthat, see, but I was sure

(01:37:44):
there was tobacco in them. ThoughBania says CBD oil made me a bit
jumpy. I only tried it twice. Yeah, I have not tried CBD
oil yet, so Friends says great, thanks for all the advice tonight.
Everyone. Yeah, it's good tohave people that have an experience with what

(01:38:05):
you're working on to see, youknow, how is it that they're going
to how is it you know thatyou can proceed with trying that stuff and
what benefits to do other people.It's just good to share, right,
It's definitely good to share. Soyou get to see other people's experience with

(01:38:27):
the same kind of thing. Therewe go. Yeah, so I guess
we tried some new stuff with thelighting tonight. This laser thing needs to
be a little clearer and better ableto be seen, so I'm going to
work on that. And but wehave our new microphone, which I want

(01:38:48):
to thank everybody on the Patreon andeverybody given these donations. We got quite
a great condenser microphone and it camewith the stand and everything, which is
great. It's right and you know, well, I can't really show it.
It's right on the side here.I'm want to pull it over even
but yeah, I'm afraid things willget screwed up if I try to do

(01:39:14):
that. I'll show a picture orsomething tomorrow. So tomorrow and I would
like to do just open lines andask me anything I think, because I've
got some other shows with definite subjectmatter and you know, a subject but
I'm a little behind, and Itend to like, go, Okay,

(01:39:36):
I've researched this topic, this show'sready to go. And then I put
the notes away, and then Ithink of other things, and I know
I got to go look into thisand this and this before i'll call that
one ready. So yeah, wehave a bunch of shows that I guess
are ready, but I'd like alittle more time to research some more stuff
about each topic. Let me see. I also gave my thirteen year old

(01:39:59):
dog CBD savor for him Shepherd mixedhips giving him trouble. Yeah, I
had a Malie mute Husky that hadthat happen to him. And it's heartbreaking
when a dog loses its legs likethat. Popular in Australia. Let me
see Duvette syndrome is you want amixture of cannabin roles depending on your specific
disorder. Phil Blair says lasers makeme think of Bob Bazaar, as I

(01:40:25):
call him, laser Bob. Pew. Yeah, this one's cool. This
is a I learned to make these. Let me see if we could get
it. There we go. That'sbetter. I learned to make these some
time ago, and it's basically likea piece of decorative glass. Let me

(01:40:47):
lower this, let me lower thelight levels so you can definitely see it.
Yeah, that's creepy. So thisis like, you know, decorative
glass and a laser diode and itmakes really amazing interesting patterns. I think

(01:41:08):
we could definitely get away with likea very a more powerful one, or
we need, you know, fiveof these. But I used to make
weird laser displays and stuff, andI want to I'd like to. I'm
just kind of going through my garagegoing, I know, I got one
of these weird laser lights, right, and you know, I think it's

(01:41:30):
cool. It adds a nice ambiance. Okay, KB do the next Sarah
r Adam show. I have toemail her and schedule the interview, and
then we'll just be waiting on her. I haven't been in touch with them,
and so I don't really know what'sgoing on with getting that final interview.

(01:41:56):
But we'll see what happens. I'mstill I'm pretty sure that she's still
going to do the interview, butI have to touch base with her.
Okay, we're gonna put this thing, put this thing back down, less
exciting, trying not to try notto blow anything up here. We have

(01:42:23):
this real ram shackle system. Idon't know if maybe but this off would
help. Yeah, that helps alittle bit. I guess. Oh,
there we go, and then we'repretty pretty little lit. But it makes

(01:42:48):
sense for the creepy topic that we'vehad tonight. Really right, Yeah,
we're gonna put that up a littlebit. So, Yeah, we've got
a lot of new stuff coming up. I'd like to I'd like to get
into a lot of different topics.There's so much out there to explore,

(01:43:10):
and we're just getting started here.Friends, KB, she won't reply back.
You've already pissed her off. No, I didn't send a message yet.
Actually, so we're going to giveher an opportunity. I will be
busy tomorrow. I hope I cancatch part of the show. Yeah,

(01:43:31):
Carrie, so very, I lovethis topic. I'm back at the beginning,
watching it two times. I believedemons are the souls of the Neffelhelm.
I don't believe that humans get stuckhere. If there's an entity,
it's demonic. You may be right, Carrie, so very and welcome to
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