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November 2, 2023 • 122 mins
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This is episode seven ghost Hunting withRachel E. Hoffman. It's funny
how things work. I just happento be scrolling through Facebook, and for
one reason or another, I foundsomething called Paranormal Expeditions some time ago.
Sounded good to me, so Iclicked on it, and what I found
was this interesting girl who runs aroundinvestigating haon it locations. Her content is

(07:25):
just interesting to me because she bringsin a lot of history and tells the
historical side of who lived there,who the ghosts may be. And sometimes
she's in these beautiful Victorian locations.Sometimes she's in places that look like no
one's lived there for one hundred yearsand are falling apart. There's something interesting

(07:46):
about that voyeur thing, Just likebeing able to look into this girl's world
has been a guilty pleasure in mine, and I've been keeping up with her
through Facebook. Before I forget.I just wanted to make sure that I
share this. Sometimes I get alittle busy during the show with all you
guys in a live chat and everythingelse going on, and of course it's

(08:11):
not gonna let me share it now. I'll come back to that. Let
me see here. Actually I'll doit through Chrome. One second. One
second, folks, before I forgetit. Okay, here we go.

(08:37):
Let me just get back to this. I wanted to share her Facebook page
before I forget, so that youguys too can visit her Facebook page.
Make sure you like her Facebook pageif you like anything Ghosts related, you

(09:01):
want to make sure that you likeher Facebook page, because I, for
one, I can't tell you howmuch I enjoy watching her go and check
into these haunted places, and she'sdoing a rare thing now, which is
field investigation. You know a lotof people call themselves a paranormal investigator and
they sit on the internet. Sheis at the location, checking on the

(09:22):
stories, interviewing witnesses. It isamazing and I think that you guys would
really enjoy supporting her. So checkout her Facebook page. We have it
up on the screen here and we'regonna come back and without any further ado,
we're going to bring in our gueststonight. Rachel E. Hoffman.

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I've got a ton of let's seehere, I've got some notes. I've
actually got notes here and questions.I'll try not to get sidetracked, and
folks, let's welcome Rachel Hoffman.Hi, Hi, thank you for having
me. I can't tell you howhappy I am to finally get to talk

(10:07):
to you. I got a lotof questions, but the first question that
I had was, Oh, you'rein your bus? Yeah? Are you
in bus? Yeah? I'm inmy bus tonight. That's another great I
have this cabin and my second choicebefore building the cabin was to convert a
school bus. Rachel has this awesomeschool bus that she converted little by little

(10:28):
and also shared that journey and whatamazing journey that was, right, Rachel,
thank you. Yeah, it's beenit's still a journey. It's still
going on. I'm still you know, the electric and the plumbing and stuff,
and a lot goes into it.Yeah. I followed a lot of
schooly Facebook pages, so I knowwhat kind of work that is the Other
big question that I wanted to havefor you was let me see. Oh,

(10:54):
there we go. That's probably betternow I could see you much better.
Hi, So how did you getinto all this ghost heuting stuff and
when did you start and what?Because you're like obsessed with this stuff,
like I'm obsessed with certain things,right, Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
I feel like I was. Imean, people say they're born into things,

(11:16):
and I think sometimes we are.You know, our fate twists in
different ways. But I had animaginary friend when I was younger, and
her name was may Bell. Oh, this is my one, my friend,
this is a I couldn't believe thisstory both I'm gonna let her tell.
But she had an amazed this isan amazing story. So she had
an imaginary friend when she was younger. Go ahead and read tool. So

(11:39):
I had an imaginary friend and hername was may Bell. And when I
got a little bit older, weactually found her tombstone in my yard and
we had to scrape the moss offof it. And my family was like,
how did you know her name wasmay Bell? Because it was underneath
the you know, the heavy mossthat we scrape off pretty much every year.
But my imagine and every friend wasactually buried in my yard. That

(12:03):
is a little scary. Or yourparents freaked out or did they think maybe
you saw it, you know,somehow saw the gravestone earlier, because she's
got pictures of the gravestone and herdad. Your dad was into this stuff
too, right, so maybe hekind of got you started off. He
seemed like a cool guy. He'slike charging crystals in his front yard and

(12:24):
he's a little new age but cool. Yeah, definitely, we're old age.
It's just it's something that we've alwaysdone. And we're Native American,
so we have a bunch of totalpoles in our yard, a lot of
overgrowth in our yard, as youmay have seen. So we were the
only ones who ever lived there,so it was very like almost virgin ground
from the time that Maybell was buriedover there, so we're like her adopted

(12:48):
family. Oh you know, beforeI forget too, Rachel, this is
totally unrelated to your appearance, butthe people in the live chat will understand.
Yesterday we did this kind of strangeshow, and everybody's been joking all
day on Twitter related to that show, and just out of respect for my
guests tonight, i've seen people inthe live chat. Nobody's done it yet,
but please, guys, no jokesabout the subject matter yesterday or anything

(13:11):
we've been joking about on Twitter,because out of you know, she's a
female guest, and I don't knowif she'll get the joke or understand what
it's about yesterday. So I wantedto ask you about this Victorian house,
which is the last sort of thingon your Facebook. Have you been there
like ten times? Can you tellus a little bit about that house and
its history and why you keep goingback there? That house is absolutely enchanting.

(13:35):
I have been there through projects helpingthe roofs day on and intact.
Throughout the years. I've tried tolend myself back to the paranormal and kind
of go and do these lectures andgive all the proceeds back to the historical
Society or to the locations. Andthe Victorian Mansion has always been high on
my list of things to do.It was on my bucket list initially,

(13:58):
and I felt totally blessed that Iwas able to go in. And when
I went in, I was surroundedby all females and I had done a
few productions now that haven't really madeit to Fruition over the years, stories
about Baybel and different things like thatthat have been recorded, and one of
the sessions were actually recorded there.So I got to meet the ladies and

(14:20):
we have a really tight bond afterall these years. And I've watched the
house be developed in the accurate directionto keep it growing and to turn it
into a bed and breakfast shortly.And each room is so amazing. I
hope that each person that you knowwants that and that's on the bucket list
gets a chance to go there.It's just incredible. Yeah, it's like

(14:43):
a Victorian house that they are fullyrestored, right like piece by piece,
like every room looks like it's outof the eighteen hundreds. Yeah, and
they did an amazing job. Youknow, restoration is never easy, getting
things back to looking like they're fromthe early nineteen hundreds can be a difficult
process, and they did smashing.It's just beautiful. And can you tell

(15:05):
us a little bit about the ghostactivity there? Each in every room has
its own enchanted story. There wasa man that actually spontaneously can busted in
one of the rooms and we areyeah, it was. You can smell
the burning. I mean when youget in there and you really get in
the environment and you get in thein the you know, each room you

(15:26):
can actually kind of relive the pastand it comes alive in all your senses.
You can see it, you cansmell it, hear it, feel
it, you know. So eachroom had its own little kind of component.
The burning man was one room,the basement. The pelvis of a
young girl was found in the inthe lower chimney area. The skeletal remains,

(15:50):
right, Yeah, And I knewit was a I heard somebody ask
you in that video, right,they knew it was a female because the
pelvic bone is different in a woman. I love something. I have no
idea, So now I know alittle bit more forensic science. Amazing,
and what else is going on inthere? You said every room has something
weird, right, Yeah, everyroom has something weird. And there was

(16:12):
a room that was meant for thechildren, that was a nursery that was
later, you know, kind ofrenovated, and me and my sister were
in there and she was six monthspregnant and the doll that didn't talk actually
said mama when she picked it up. So, and she's a skeptic,
so she was thrown for a loop. I'm not afraid of creepy dolls.
I don't like creepy dolls. No, definitely not not on your list.

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So do you think it's past residentsof the house that is the ghost activity?
And that's really a big question.I was going to ask you.
You are one of the people thatbelieve that ghosts are departed human spirits,
right that maybe I believe that ghostsare made of their own kind of DNA.
I'm actually writing a book on quantumphysics that's related closely to why we

(16:56):
are able to see this kind ofundissolved man that is a ghost. We're
not able to indefinitely say what itis, but we can definitely say that
it's the material of some kind.Wow, And I wanted to ask you,
what do you think I've read alot about some of these houses that
the activity is not human spirits butdemon activity. Have you run into that

(17:19):
much, because that's scary. Thatstuff A sky grew up and like the
Exorcist scared me so much, andall this demonic possession and oppressed houses.
I grew up with a friend whosefather was a Christian minister, and he
swore that the parsonage or the housethat the minister at that church stayed in,

(17:41):
was oppressed, not possessed, butoppressed by demons because there was some
kind of activity going on in thehouse that they couldn't explain, knocking and
shadows and weirdness. I noticed thattoo. It's funny that you say that,
but a lot of people that areon the Bible Belt seem to experience
a lot more demonic activity. Buta lot of people also ask ghosts to
throw things, break things, tomake themselves known, and then as soon

(18:04):
as they do, they're like,oh my god, it's a demon.
So I mean demon aggressive gohoes.You know, you ask to be thrown
at you and then it gets thrown. It doesn't make it a demon necessarily.
But I have seen different activity,you know, burn marks, on
people that are scratches that seem tocome from the inside out. Injuries on

(18:26):
children, that's very common. AndI can see that, you know,
there's bite marks that are from likewhat looks like a small child. We've
uncovered what seems to be demonic activitythat disguises itself as a child. So
giggling, laughing, you know,sure, yeah, and bring you in
and you've seen this kind of telekineticstuff thrown across the room and kind of

(18:49):
weirdness like that. I have seena lot of activity that can't be explained.
And fortunately I always have some kindof a camera crew or some kind
of equipment running when this is goingon. So I have, you know,
thirteen years of heavily validated experiences.Wow, and as you believe that

(19:11):
you've encountered some activity that was demonicand not human deceased spirits, And how
do you as how do you asan investigator know the difference. I can
definitely feel a difference when I enterinto a house that potentially has something deeper
going on. I noticed that theenergy is it can be freezing cold or

(19:33):
very hot. It always maintains anuncomfortable level when it's something that's not human.
Lorraine Warren, a predecessor of oursin the Paranormal, used to call
it inhuman and that was her wordfor it, and so a lot of
us have adapted that. And itmakes sense because these beings were never born,
they never lived, and they neverdied. They just existed in almost

(19:56):
a different realm, so they weren'thuman ever. Okay, so they were
never incarnate spirits. But you know, haven't I read somewhere that like some
of these demonic entities will pretend tobe a deceased human. Yeah, I
manipulate people. I have seen thata lot, especially with Ouiji boards.

(20:18):
A lot of people don't do theproper procedure to open and close, and
they open a doorway and I dohear a lot of feedback coming back that
you know, it was something darkpretending to be their aunt Martha. So
yeah, it can be pretty bad. And oh, you mentioned that Lorraine
person. Is that the conduring?Yes, that's her, that's it.

(20:41):
She's the main character. But shewas the one that was the stories were
written after. And yeah, sheseemed like an interesting lady. I have
a couple of books either mention heror talk about some stuff that she was
involved in with her husband. Didthey both investigate this stuff and they kept
like haunted objects in their house?Yeah? Yeah, she was. I

(21:03):
mean she was amazing Ed Ed andLorraine Warren. I've investigated with her and
I've had the pleasure of being inher home and in the Occult Museum with
the en Bel doll. So thatwas when it was a full working museum,
and I have several pieces. Imean, they used to allow us
to go through in film and everythingelse. So I was extremely fortunate at
the time because I know that they'vecut off that activity since then. It

(21:25):
was in Connecticut and she used tobring us over to Ed's grave in the
Stephanee Cemetery and we actually caught orbswith her and and Ed in the picture
and it was like I used toprint them every year and go back and
give them to her and have aspaghetti dinner with her, and it was

(21:47):
all very normal and demons and thatis cool and like every day ever spaetti
dinner type of thing. You know. I'm wondering now, did you talk
to her about this? Uh?You know, I think it's Haney in
Connecticut and Annabel did she feel aswere accurate? Depictions or did they just
hollywood the story up too much?Because I love it, so I thought

(22:07):
they were great. Yeah, theyand they are. I have live interviews
with her where I'm asking her basicallya week after the annabel movie was released,
before they even realized they were doingthe next movie. I think it
was the conjuring first, before theyrealized that they were releasing the next movie.
She actually had done an interview withme only like a week after it

(22:30):
had been let out, and shelet out parts of the story she wasn't
supposed to. And but she alsodid say other than the stairs where she's
falling down the stairs, that thatspiral stair. Obviously she couldn't fall seventeen
stories and live to tell. Yeah, so that was Hollywood for sure.

(22:52):
And they still have that Annabelle thoughat their home or right now, the
Annabelle doll is on tour with TonySparra, her uh suicideship her son in
law. Yes, so he's beenmarried to her daughter for quite some time
and so now he kind of carrieson the legend and lets people see it

(23:15):
and view her and tell the story. Yeah, I don't know. That
is just a creepy The whole storyis crazy. And so do you believe
that a spirit where a theman canpossess an object like a doll or a
like a like a Dimmock box.That's another story that I think I'm going
to do because that's amazing story.I do believe that we can actually put

(23:37):
life into something by loving it.So I'm a big believer in, like
the inn, inanimate object having lifeonly because we're able to. For example,
if you ever had a necklace fromyour grandmother and you lost it and
suddenly the necklace found you again,it's because the object actually knows that it
belongs to you. So I dobelieve that we can and love something and

(24:00):
cherish something enough to actually almost breathea heartbeat into it. I know that
I've lost things that mean something tome and it like it's like I feel
like somebody died. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It can be common with
cars, It can be common withyou know. And I see people haunt
their vehicles. Oh no, that'sfine. I see people haunt their vehicles.

(24:23):
I see people haunt their jewelry,haunt things that meant something to them,
haunt their houses. Houses are justa big object. Well, I
have a question here that's kind ofa weird one. I always see you
going to these houses like totally welcomingall this experiences, like you're just fearless.
And I got to tell you thatsome of those places and things that

(24:47):
you've experienced, I think I wouldturn around and run to the car.
Has there ever been and I wantedto know, has there ever been one
where you went, I'm getting outof here. The only ones that I've
ever gotten out of there was whenI ran into like homeless people or Yeah,
so like the living scared me morethan the dead. But yeah,
it's funny to mention that when Iwas a kid growing up, there was

(25:08):
this big, huge, abandoned churchand it'd been abandon the roof was caving
in, and like us kids usedto like rip the wood out of the
like basement windows and get in therewith flashlights, and like there was a
homeless guy in there. Me andthis girl were in there. These pigeons
flew we ran out of there.It's like something out of the moot.
You'll never forget it. Yeah,yeah, yeah, I'll never forget the

(25:29):
pigeons flying in this big chapel andthey'd scared the crap out of both of
us. You know, we gotout of there, but then we were
in the other part of the churchand there was like a homeless guy sleeping
in one of the rooms or something, and we weren't expecting a human you
know. Yeah, so we gotout of there right away. That can
be pretty scary, you know,you want to be on guard, but
stuff like that. And I gointo a lot of these places by myself

(25:51):
completely, So I do it forthe experience and also for the activity.
And also it's hard to pin peopledown to get them to go to these
abandoned places with me, and they'relike, hell no, yeah, I
don't know. You know, I'mvery intrigued by what you do, but
I don't think I want to gowith you creepier places you've been. You've
been to some places that look like, you know, totally abandoned and beaten

(26:15):
down and run down. Do youjust kind of follow leads that people give
you for places to go check outor and see what's going on there?
Yeah, there have been times thatI have done that. I've been invited
to a lot of places for charitablecauses. After I was on the Travel
Channel, I got really lucky andhad a lot of people reach out to
me and asked me to come dolectures or you know, do little things

(26:38):
for their for their building and theirlocation. And so when I did,
they gave me access afterwards. Soyeah, so any time I came back,
I was allowed to come in anddo tours and kind of have like
you know, rerun of the place. And it's been amazing. So a
lot of opportunities did open up tome going into places. It's really hard

(26:59):
to have people like rationalize with youwhen you're saying, hey, I want
to come into a ghos hunt.Yeah, I don't know about you.
Yeah, they hang up the phonelike right away, like goodbye. So
now I say, I want todo a historical research on your building more
than anything, so that they're notspooped out by the activity possibly and then

(27:23):
whatever you catch, you catch.Yeah. I have another question here.
I ordered like about restless spirits anddo you think that some of these some
of this activity is restless spirits thatmaybe didn't finish something or they haven't I
mean, is that the belief thatyou subscribe to though that goes to a
sort of earth bound and tracked herebetween one realm in the next or what

(27:48):
do you think about this? Arethere restless spirits waiting waiting on earth still?
I actually have a unique perspective onthat. But I just think I
don't really believe necessarily that we're everstuck here. Actually, my grandmother passed
away. I think she like wentto Saturn. She was I was kind
of like trying to see what shesaw. But we're not really earth bound

(28:10):
at all. Really, we're onlybound by what we believe. You know,
Like a lot of people think thatyou have to die somewhere to haunt
that place, but the fact isthat you're free. Your spirit is finally
free. You're no longer bound tothis meat suit, and you can kind
of bounce from place to place.We're not really, you know, stuck
anywhere. I do believe in there'sa scar in the universe when someone gets

(28:33):
murdered, or when someone is takenquickly a car accident, unexpected death.
That there are times where we'll goback to the same place at three o'clock
every day and their spirit will bepresent, the sound of their death will
be in the air. But it'sreally not them as an intelligent spirit.
It's more residual, Like that's whatwe talk It's like an echo of some

(28:56):
kind of emotional energy or something else. Yes, that's a correct way.
I've heard that before. And thespirits that I run into, like may
Bell, she's intelligent. She wasthree years, five months and eight days
old according to her tombstone, butshe's mature now and I can talk to
her and she actually has conversations withme, So she actually is intelligent and
grew up a little bit, Whereassome of these spirits that I run into

(29:19):
are more that echo that you describe, and it's just like walking through a
spider web, you know, likeyou just happen to walk through that space
and catch that activity during that point. Oh and that leads me to another
question I had on my list,and you sent me up perfectly for it.
I wanted to ask you if youstill talk to this imaginary friend and

(29:40):
what's that like now that you knowthat she's a deceased spirit, Like,
how do you how do you,I don't know, deal with that in
your brain like that you had animaginary friend, now you know it's a
deceased spirit, you're able to speakto her communicate with her still? Yeah,
I still do. Yes. Iwas thirty years old time that I
held a digital recorder and actually usedit, and she was the first voice

(30:04):
that came through. She was,you know, and I recognized the voice
from my childhood. And so you'vegot some EVPs. Yes, Oh,
if you still have the kind ofset up to me, I'm play on
my show. I went to showEVPs. That's another one of my research
projects lately. I'm not sure though. Some of that stuff seems like it's
baby monitors or walkie talkies, youknow. And also there's a method in

(30:27):
audio. I became like, Idon't know if there's really an expert in
field or not, but I learnedthrough an expert that there are ways that
you do it. You can't reallywalk around with your audio recorder because you
catch a lot of the from yourgenes and you know, I've heard people
like actually pretend to make up likewords, you know, and I just
don't buy into it that much.Until you put your recorder down, you

(30:51):
can say, you know which roomyou're in high I'm at the Victorian Mansion,
I'm in room one. You putyour recorder down, so there's a
way to do it, and thenyou run it for five minutes and then
you play it back immediately. It'scalled a burst session, and it allows
you the most accurate you know,because you remember every little detail of where
you were, if somebody walked behindyou, have somebody coughed, you're very
much in the moment. Well,And so do you think that some of

(31:14):
these ghosts or entities are able towhat do they do to get their voice
on their manipulate the electro magnetic spectrumsomehow, or manipulate the recorder or actually
create an audible sound that is actuallybeing recorded. I've actually heard dricks before,
and the unique thing that we cando now is we can stretch out
the audio. So I've actually heardlike running water, and when I stretch

(31:37):
out the audio, it's like heyJack, Hey Jack, it's me Like,
I mean, it's a whole hugesentence that you know, Yeah,
it's huge. Like. So theyare working at a very much higher speed
and higher level than we are.And if you're able to view your audio
instead of just listen to it andyou can see the sound waves, you'll
notice that there are times whether tobe a little hick up that you didn't

(32:00):
hear, that you're not reacting toit and if you go down you like
kind of quarantine it and stretch itout, you start to realize there's a
whole sentence inside that little blip.Well that's creepy, and did you like
you like, find this stuff laterunless you do that first session where you
find out right away, right,because I know somebody that did these EVPs
and he would take hours and hoursof this stuff and then take it back

(32:22):
and analyze it later, you know, right, And people do that,
and that's smart to do, justin case that there is that one jump
scare of that moment where somebody's like, hey, I heard that at that
moment. The problem with hours ofaudio is if you do an eight hour
session somewhere, that's hours and hoursto review. That's really it's a whole

(32:43):
you know, you can only doso much before you start getting like tunnel
vision with I. I was amusician and ran a studio, so I
agree with you, except in mycase it was it was trying to mix
terrible punk rock bands to sound goodfor eight hours at a time, Like
why am I Why am I mysinging out a key? Because you did
bro? You know. Yeah,So I have a question from the audience

(33:06):
that I think is a great one. And this is from super v Frontcat.
She says, has she had aspirit or strangeness attached to her after
leaving an if so from where?Yes, So I have had quite a
few of those. We called themparanormal hangovers when we get them, and
they come from different locations. ButI would say the worst one that I

(33:30):
had was I was the only teamto investigate James Whity Bulger's bar from the
old Triple O's and he was thesecond most wanted criminal in America at the
time when I did it, Andwhen I went downstairs, I noticed that
there was this face of a littleboy that looked mummified in the corner,
and instead of when the lights trickyour eye, instead of it becoming like

(33:53):
something that was an object, itbecame more and more real, and it
looked like a three year old boy. And was rumors that he had had
younger children there that he had murdered. There was twenty six bodies that were
that were put through this basement area, and I believed that he was one
of them, and I had athree year old at the time, and
so that both haunted me physically andmentally and I actually got physically ill leaving

(34:19):
the place. Yeah, yeah,and it was that was my one and
only time where I actually physically vomitedand got sick from this apparition showing itself
to me. I think it wasboth because I knew the truth. These
are true crime stories. Yeah,writing over is he was a bad person
man. He killed a lot ofpeople, so some kind of dark energy

(34:40):
around him or his spirit of attagit ran. I would assume he was
alive at the time, and hewas, Oh, he was still right,
He's still alive, right he was, Yeah, well, no,
he's dead now, but he wasalive at the time. Okay, he
was alive at the time. Peopleare People were actually like calling me crazy
because the Winter Hill Gang is downthere, and you know, we were
kind of like going down there filmingand making a really huge fuss over Yeah,

(35:01):
like I said, you are.You are fearless, girl. You
are fearless. Thank you. Youwant to go hang out with some mobsters
and some demons and ghosts. Wehave another question from the life chat Rachel,
and I don't know what this is. Have you ever heard the partying
music? I don't know. Idon't know what that is exactly, but

(35:22):
I can assume maybe, like aswe're leaving a place, I haven't really
heard parting music. I don't knowif I'm using this in the right context,
so excuse me, But when I'mleaving a place, I do notice
that sometimes the levels of activity onmy equipment will spike kind of. It'll
be quiet the whole time, andthen we'll get ready to leave and pack

(35:43):
up, and all of a suddenthings will start spiking up, because you
know, they don't want us toleave, if they want us to stay
where we are and still come,you know, enjoy the space. But
as far as music, I'm notsure I've heard that. Yeah, I've
not heard of that phenomenon. Butthe other and I have another question for
you is what about magnetic I'm sorry, magnetic anomalies, because I've read that

(36:08):
in a lot of these places,if you take like a magnetometer into one
of these hard locations, they gocrazy. And there are some scientific evidence
that suggests that magnetic waves can affectthe human brain and even cause hallucinations,
auditory or visual hallucinations. So doyou think that maybe an explanation for some

(36:29):
of this activity that people see,there could just be magnetic I don't know
waves or radiation interference. I thinkthat there is a lot of times that
these things can be debunked through differentsituations like that. I know that I've
caught Morse code on my equipment before, so we had that's really Oh yeah,

(36:51):
I was on ship. I wason a naval ship, but it
just happened to be something that wasbeeping through the air, and here I
thought the naval ship was coming alive. You know. The truth is we
have a very sensitive we have avery sensitive system, and I have heard
that the magnetic force will cause youknow, for example, if I threw

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my equipment together and I ran itover a boiler, the equipment's going to
go off because that's its own sourceof energy. And so sometimes we're able
to trick ourselves into believing there's moreenergy. I've been in a field thinking
that there was nothing and didn't realizethere was towers all around me. The
equipment was going crazy. I waslike, oh my gosh. Always like
cell phone tower interference or something.Yeah, definitely, so there's all kinds

(37:35):
of interference like that. That's theabsolute truth. Debunking it and seeing if
it happens the same each and everytime, you know, making sure that
you do it again and again seeif you get the same read. You
know, that's the way that youcan tell if the interference is you know,
substantial. Okay, and I hadanother question here. Do you believe
that people can communicate with their deadrelatives in one form or another? I

(38:00):
think so. I think if anybodycan or wants to communicate with you,
it would be a blood relative,especially somebody that's close to you. I
know that there are times where peoplewill write to me and ask me,
you know, how they would knowif their loved one made it to the
other side. And I'll always tellthem to ask out loud for a sign,

(38:22):
to say, you know, pleasegive me a sign, and you'll
know the sign. Sometimes it's butterflies, flashing lights, a feather, a
heart shape, you know, whateveryou held like, whatever you held special
with that person that you lost.They'll give you the sign to let you
know that they've made it. Andnot just one, but once you realize
the signs, you'll start seeing themagain and again. It adds a level

(38:43):
of comfort to know that they're stillwith you. Well, And I wanted
to ask you about some of yourfuture plans. I mentioned your boss and
how you were converting this bus.Is that going to be like like the
Scooby Doo van for you? You'regoing to like cop in the Mystery Wagon
and go to out some ghosts anddemons because I think that's awesome, and

(39:04):
I'll send you some Scooby snacks.Just You're gonna go all over the country
and that thing, aren't you.Yeah, I'm ready. I'm going to
do about twenty trips a year onceeverything's kind of bolted down. I'm getting
the electric paneling going. I'm constantlypretty much moving it around to make sure
that it's not going to fly allover the place when I take a longer
trip, keeping it kind of upto standard. It's a diesel engine,

(39:30):
Oh great, Those are the best. Those are the best. They never
die, change the oil, theynever do. It's definitely a hardcore little
special bus. I'm very blessed tohave have come upon this deal, and
I welcomed a few other people tothe Schooly community since I've gotten this bus.
They love it. I mean,it's cheaper than an RV. You
can insulate it and decorate it.However, you want. So it's amazing

(39:53):
and I do intend on using itfor the paranormal. It's gonna have a
little bit of magic stuff in itanyway, because you know, I'm all
about that. Yeah. I justI watched as you were doing the things
I and I had like deja vuof my cabin because you were putting floor
down and I remember learning like tongueand groove floors and trying to put walls
up, and like, my cabinis a huge project that's going to be

(40:15):
going for another year probably but slowly, but surely we have another It's a
labor of love. You know,you don't don't hurry it, don't rush
it. Yeah, I'm enjoying myself. We have another question from live chat
from Reims, who says I liketo talk to dead loved ones with a
Wuiji board. Does Rachel use Ouijiboards at all? I do? I
do. I love them. Iknow that in the paranormal that it's like

(40:37):
a huge thing. But movies sometimeswill scare people and we think that Ouiji
boards are going to blow up anddo this, but really they're no different
than any other equipment. We're usingmailmeters, obelistes, we're using pendulums,
old age and new age equipment.I like to use wigi boards by myself
because I feel like it's very forshow sometimes and I enjoy just getting the

(40:59):
enders from my pendulum or reigi boardon my own. So I communicate with
people use a pendulum too, I'veI've seen somebody do that. I saw
some demonstrations that I was not entirelyconvinced but pretty curious about, like the
fact that you could use a pendulumto sort of do divination or communicate with

(41:22):
the spirits, right, and somepeople use it every day. It's called
scrying. And what they do isthey don't even get up out of bed
before they ask the pendulum what theyshould do next. And so it's a
huge you know, it's a hugething. I'm a witch and so I
use those old age things to kindof bring about the the beginning of my
investigation, I always started out withthe pendulum and old age stuff and you

(41:45):
know, lots of candles and askingfor the space to open up. And
it's a respect thing. Wow.And we have a question again from super
v Funkcat. She saw your tattooand asked, is she first nations?
And I believe you said you wereNative American. Can you can you unpack
that a little bit and explain that, Yeah, yes, absolutely, I

(42:06):
am Native American. This is myI want to call it my grandmother.
I never saw an actual picture ofher, my great grandmother. Ye,
thank you. So I went tothe artist and I asked him to kind
of draw something that was in thatrealm. I'm lipping Apache and so I'm
I think, like twenty twenty fivemiles outside of the Mexican border in Texas

(42:29):
is where my people are originated from. And we made our way up here
to the upstate New York area andthat's actually where my family stayed this entire
time throughout the course of life.But we live very much the Native American
lifestyle. My dad carbs totem polesfrom scratch and I grew up without electricity

(42:51):
and running water, and we werevery salt of the earth type of people
and still are running water. Wow, had like you had an authouse and
like a dry cabin, that kindof thing. It was a creek,
well we call it a creek whereI'm from. Creek. Yeah. I
grew up and my parents had thiscottage in Jersey and before it had running

(43:13):
water. We just had to godown to the creek to get our bath
every night, getting there at abar soap and go at it, you
know. Yeah, and my grandmotherboiled the water, you know, like
we had we had hot bats,and we thought that was very luxury.
It was a very luxury thing forus. I thought they were rich,
you know, like they had somany beautiful things, so many stones and
shells and perfect things. And Ihad no idea. I knew nothing.

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Well, you know, when yougrow up with something, you don't know
that somebody. I remember like going, you know, I grew up kind
of poor, and then I gota little older and like going to see
some of these houses up in thesuburbs where they had like eight bedrooms in
a pool. I was like,damn, these people were rich, you
know we see on the other side. Yeah, absolutely, And the more
I saw them, I was like, wow, I was just completely blown

(43:58):
away by CDs all the rest ofthat kind of fun stuff, like technology.
These people over here got electricity,right, yeah. I feel like
they were aliens. Like it waslike, you know, like they were
delivered from space or something, andyou had no electricity. You have a
gas lamps and that kind of stuff. Gas lamps. Yep. My grandmother
was born in nineteen nineteen, soa lot of stuff we had we had

(44:21):
from back in that era. AndI mean, I wish I still had
that kind of stuff, especially livingin a bus. Do you know what
I mean? You realize, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm getting
back to that kind of living,Like my cabin is slowly getting I just
got a shower. I built itout of rocks, but it's a shower.
Like every little luxury there, likebeing able to use water from the

(44:43):
sink with an RV pump. That'show I did with a tank, Like
oh my god, thank god Idon't have to go outside to wash dishes.
But one of the things that cabintaught me is how little do we
need to be happy? Because whenI started there, I had gas lamps,
no electric, no lights, youknow, And we're slowly we got
internet there now, so we feellike wow, yeah, and I had

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I had a comment from Reims inthe live chat, which is a funny
one. She says she is anice witch. Yeah, she's a good
witch. But I gotta tell yourfriends. When any female tells me she's
a witch, I try to stayon her good side, justin Keys,
because I knew a vengeful one whenI was growing up. A vengeful nasty

(45:29):
one can start that way, butshe became that way and ever since then,
if a woman tells me, Idon't make fun of which you know,
sometimes people will say they're a witch, and people kind of, you
know, joke about, yeah she'sa nope, nope, I'm totally respectful.
Good for you for your beliefs.Please don't axt me. See I'm
from Salem area. The oh wow, that's cool. Yeah, so we

(45:52):
are all witches, male female,like everybody. Really, It's a very
common thing. And it's funny becauseI'll walk through Salem sometimes. Now I'm
like tryveling around the East coast,but you know there are times where I'll
just you know, be walking throughthere, grabbing my crystals, doing my
normal thing, grabbing my candles andstuff, and people will run up to
me that are from Salem and they'llbe like, are you a witch?

(46:13):
Like it's an immediate thing, andI think, you know, even if
I'm not wearing anything discernible, I'mjust walking around regular T shirt and jeans,
people catch the vibe and they understandand they know. I think it's
really a vibe. Oh yeah,this is another great question from REMC.
Does Rachel combine her witchcraft magic withNative American spirituality or does she keep it

(46:34):
separate. I do happen to doboth, only because sage is such a
great tool in the environment of theparanormal, especially when you're trying to charge
good energy, and it is somethingvery familiar to me. At the end
of the investigation, not every locationlets you burn sage, so we sometimes
do like a condensed spray, orI have lots of different stages and I

(46:59):
a wes use stage at the endof investigation. It's funny because all my
witch friends that I just went tothe Victorian mansion with gave me gifts that
I'm taking pictures of later. Iset it up on my altar of stage
wrapped in roses, sweet grass,different feather fans to use it to brush
over people to rid of negative energy. And that's what stage is supposed to

(47:22):
do when it burns sage, right, it gets rid of the negative energy.
Yeah, it does that by chargingpositive ions in the air. So
it actually and that's actually the truth, like scientifically proven. Wow, I
got to get some sage. Thencan you like burn it on people that
are negative around you? You know? Yeah, I mean I do it.

(47:43):
I try to do if somebody isdoing something negative, I really just
do more binding than anything like buyingtheir you know, buying their bad habits
and buying their bad stuff. Butif somebody's around me and they feel like
something's attached to them and they wantto have stage run over them, I
know a lot of people that justthey love it. They love the field
it. Yeah, and we haveanother great question. Let me get this

(48:05):
one up here. This is fromBecca Smith. Becka. I don't think
that I've seen you here before.Welcome to truth Seekers. Have you ever
seen images that weren't really there andfelt they were supernatural not connected to any
other spirit activity. Do you believethis can be a negative omen Well,
I have lots of paranormal equipment runningat the same time, and sometimes we

(48:30):
have different thermal images that'll show up. And I did have a thermal image
that I took nine snapshots and itlooked like to me what we was a
ghost. It was completely void ofcolor and completely blue. I don't think
he was negative. I actually thinkthe opposite. He was there guarding the
building. And when he realized wewere taking pictures of him and I was

(48:52):
snapping shots of him with the thermalcamera, he actually reacted and ran away.
So it was like to see thoseimages on the bio channels. Yeah,
bio's my ghost story Middle Burning townHall. You can actually see him.
It's almost like a moving video becauseI snapped it so close together and

(49:13):
it shows the timeframe and you cansee him reacting. And yeah, it
was amazing. And thermal images arethe most highly regarded paranormal evidence out there
in the field. Can't be faked. We have another comment, and this
is Brandon Young. Brandy Young,real classy, Brandon Young, come to
my show, Real classy, bro, This is not a dating game show.

(49:37):
I live near Salem is Rachel somebody. You can't blame a guy for
trying, he says, I livenear Salem is Rachel, single or married
to some powerful sorcerer. Oh,real class thank you. No, I'm
not married. Oh I didn't knowif you were single, though. I

(50:00):
am actually dating someone, but notsingle. Now okay, there you go.
That's what I thought. Yeah,okay, yeah, Brandon Young is
still throwing your comboy. Thanks.I can't uh here, Reims says,

(50:22):
I can't burn actual sage smut sticksbecause of Toby, but I burned white
sage and an incense burner that Tobycan't knock over. I think it works
the same. Is Toby a cata small child? Is Toby a cat
or a child? Either way,it's smart to keep that away from Toby
if Toby's gonna knock it over.I've seen people I have. I have

(50:45):
the cages for the for incense,so I just put the small cones of
incense inside. And oh I didthat when I was an altar boy.
We had these little cones of incenseand you put it inside and you got
to walk with it in front ofthe priest. And you know, you
gotta be careful with priests while you'rewalking in front of them. Oh my
gosh. So I had some otherquestions, but I don't want to keep

(51:08):
you too long. So I'm tryingto get to like the You know,
I have an order that I thoughtof importance. I asked you about your
future plans. You just got castin a movie. Can you tell us
about that? Because that's exciting andI liked you already posted some you did
to waste any time? You're likeposted, was that like a costume shot

(51:29):
from your the movie you got cassedin? No, I just got my
costume kind of like the Rundown yesterdaya boy email. So I thought it'd
be a fun little teaser to showthe stockings and stuff like that. I
can't I'm not sure how much detailI can go into as far as the
character and things like that, butthe movie is acts to grind, and

(51:49):
I'm very excited. I'm humbled tobe a part of it and to have
been asked to be a part ofit. So the producer actually found me
on Facebook and I it was itwas just one of those things. I
was just so honored to have beenasked at all. And when he approached
me, we have been talking forsome time, and he went over some
of my paranormal videos. And youknow, I've been in a few movies,

(52:15):
well, in one movie, TheGhostbusters, and on television a few
times, but most of my experienceis the reality you're in the Ghostbusters.
You mean the one with the girls, the reboot. Yes, okay,
and now I gotta watch it againand find with you wherever where you're at
in that I'm in it a lot, so they asked me to come back
like fourteen times. Wow, nowI got to see it. I'm sure

(52:36):
that I saw it, but Ikind of fell asleep through it, wasn't
it. Yeah, you know itwasn't a huge fan of that one.
But I hear there they're rebooting itagain. Yeah, I'm really excited about
the reboot. To be honest,like it I saw. I can't let
I cried when I saw the Yeah, the ectomobile right, Oh my god.
Yeah, I got emotional. Iwas like, oh my god,

(52:57):
just like I remember, it's beenall these years childhood. So I hope
they bring back the State Puff marshmallowMan somehow. That's all I friend.
So I had minimal acting experience,but he had seen some of the jump
scare stuff that I had done forI don't some indie movies. You don't
need acting experience. Oh good,you know you hope for a good direction.

(53:23):
I had one guy that kept ontelling me to do the same line
over and over and over again forlike four hours. I felt terrible.
Look, I didn't know what theguy wanted. I tried it. You
know, it was terrible, terribleexperience, but no, you won't have
that kind of thing going on.Yeah, it was a control freak and
he wanted it a certain perfect way. And then eventually even other people on

(53:45):
the set were telling them it's it'sno different from the last you know,
the last time he said it.I don't know. I was very I
was very impressed with my scene thatI had been given, So I'm very
excited. I can't share too much, but I was very excited about the
opportunity and you know, the wholething, and it's just a totally different

(54:05):
vibe than I've ever done. AndI'm forty years old, so this is
a really exciting thing for me.Wow. Yeah, And listen, friends
in Laichat, if you have questionsfor Rachel, put them in all caps.
All caps this way, I knowthat they're a question for Rachel.
I also wanted to ask you aboutthe Depic Box because that's one of my

(54:27):
interests. Do you know very muchabout this depic box? And do you
think this is a true story oris this some made up legend. I
think that a lot of people liketo add lord to the equipment. You
know, we have to remind ourselvesthat some of us that are involved in
the paranormal have been experiencing things throughmicrowaves, like through willow trees, through
small things that weren't meant for theprogramming and the communication with ghosts. So

(54:53):
I do lend credibility to the dipocbox, But a lot of people are
trying to make it like Pandora Box, like it's you know, it's the
biggest thing, and everybody's trying tomake it this big demonic thing. I
haven't had that experience, so Ican't say for sure, but I know
that, just like the Ouiji board, sometimes people like to play up these

(55:15):
pieces of equipment. Yeah, there'ssome there's something about that story that I
just love because it's got a connectionto the Kabbalah and the Jewish mysticism,
which is always interesting to me,things like the Golum and now this Dipic
box, because everybody that has this, For those that don't know the Depic

(55:36):
Box, look it up. Everybodythat got this box went through like all
kinds of paranormal crazy activity before givingit to the next person or selling it
to the next person. And apparentlythe story is that it has something to
do with these women that were oppressedor maybe abused, and they put all
this negative energy to create this entityto get revenge on people. So that's

(56:00):
the origin of the story. Okay, somebody said you look fantastic for forty
I agree, Thank God, blessyou. Thanks. Reims says, I
am afraid of the diypic box.Zach Beggin says, it is the most
awful thing. I can heready lookat it. A nasty thing. Yeah,

(56:20):
I don't know. It's just oneof those great stories. So what
what do you think was the mosthaunted location that you've ever been? And
why did you? Did you considerit that? I feel like it changes
every time. But let's see,h I have so many geez oh,
boy, me on the spot oneright, So you know what I'll do.

(56:43):
I'll tell you the story about FallRiver. That is a story that
was really close to me. Anda lot of people spend four hours to
fourteen hours on investigation, and Ispent sixty days on investigation. Wow,
you're pretty thorough and fearless and bya horn a Halse, I'm going there
with you. And I went thereand I made connections with these women and

(57:07):
the scariest part was that they weredealing with an unsolved murder. So these
women. There were seventeen bodies foundin the Fall River, Massachusetts area.
There were the new Bedford Highway killings, and I did this whole entire docu
series on it, and it actuallywon a Chicago Paranormal Film Festival Award because

(57:28):
the young ladies had actually identified theirkiller to me a year before the police
had forensically proven that that was whokilled them. So yeah, it was
amazing. I sold the movie onlyso a lot of people didn't have access
to it, but I plan onletting it out because I think it's so
important that these girls have a voiceand they're heard. Initially, I was

(57:51):
trying to produce funding for future projects, and it really worked great because everybody
was really excited for the production,and it wound up playing in Somerville Theater
for like thirty days or so,and you know, a few of the
family members had gotten hold of me, and the sheriff that found their the
lady's bodies had gotten hold of me, and we worked together throughout the remainder

(58:14):
of the summer on the project,and I felt so close to them and
it was really scary what happened tothem, and it was really scary that
it went unsolved that long. Yeah, you said there was seventeen victims,
so it was a serial killer,I'm assuming right, Yeah, and it
was they were prostitutes, so alot of people didn't feel as though,
yeah, yeah, it's you know, the funding wasn't there to check and

(58:34):
see forensically who murdered them, untilyou know, more and more people are
talking about it, and it wasjust sad that, you know, it
wasn't funded and some someone must haveheard about it and took up the cause
for the right reasons. And youknow, it's twenty years past and the
person was already passed away. Butyou know, it helps the families to
late a rest, Yeah, becauseat least they know what happened, you

(58:57):
know, well, at least theyknow that this was the hiller and this
is more than likely what happened,right, Well, And so what what's
your future plans? Then you're goingto besides the movie and traveling around in
the bus, what are you goingto be up to? So I have
my cheat sheet over here. Yougot a hole, I say, she's
a busy lady. That's why listen, thank you so much for doing this,

(59:21):
because I'm having you know, thisis a new show for me,
and I know the numbers may notbe great, but we're still no.
I'm really excited. Thank you forhaving me. I'm so excited. So
I have some stuff coming up.I am officially changing my name at this
point to Rachel E. Hoffman.Yes, I redid the graphics just for
her today because today's today's your newbirthday. It is twenty and next year

(59:45):
I'm going to say happy birthday,Rachel E. Hoffman. Yay. Yeah,
So this is my official announcement.You heard it here first exclusive.
We love the and so my nextappearances will be Gettysburg July twenty four through
twenty six. It's the Gettysburg Bashand we filled with well I don't know

(01:00:06):
if they approve the lectures this year, so don't quote me on that,
but we'll be doing ghost hunts andtables and kind of. I'm not far
from Gettys. I'm in Pennsylvania.I'm a warm really Pennsylvania. I'm not
that well. So it's a ride, but it's it's doable. I'll have
to send you an invite then,yeah. Absolutely, And the next one
is the Plymouth Para con September twentyfifth through twenty seventh, run by Sam
baltrusis author of thirteen Most Haunted anda slew of other amazing books and in

(01:00:30):
the paranormal. I'm in seven chaptersof the thirteen Most Haunted and after that
will be the Salem Con April twentytwenty one, which is a beloved event,
and this is run by Mark Evriela, a good friend of mine,
and we always have a blast downthere. So I always encourage people to
keep checking back to get the ticketsbecause we do sell out and the hotels

(01:00:53):
sell out. I think that Gettysburgis completely sold out, but you can
always check for day tickets and dayspots and check back with us. And
I just wanted to chime in withthe Acts to Grind and I'll be working
with Debbie Roch and Stormy Daniels inthe up and coming Acts to Grind movie.
I'm very You know what's so funnyis that somebody said on Twitter when

(01:01:15):
they when they heard that you wereon tonight, somebody said on Twitter that
Stormy Daniels is going to have herown ghost show and I should get her
as a guest. And then theysaid, oh, maybe I should delete
my tweet and I said, Idon't think Rachel would mind. And now
I just found out that you wereworking with her on a movie, so
I guess you don't mind people mentionedin st me. Daniel absolutely not know.
And that's weird. That's weird thatthat happened. It's funny that you

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should say that, because I foundout that there's a few haunted locations that
were going to be at together overthe week that I am in Oklahoma filming
with her, and I was goingto say to her, like, hey,
do you want to don't think ofa door or anything, but you
want to investigate ghosts with me,So thank you. Yeah, the awkward

(01:02:00):
silence is broken. No, Ilove other girls that ghost on and I
always encourage women in the field toplease there's not enough of us. We
need more girl power. Yeah,I was going to ask you about that
because it seems to be like apretty male dominated field. Oh yeah,
oh yeah. And the girls thatwe always have so much fun together.
We try to twin up. You'llsee the at the Gettysburg event if you

(01:02:21):
follow the page throughout the course ofthe next month. A lot of girl
power in there. We love femalesand I always love to see new faces
in the paranormal. Well, sowhy because who wants to see some direkly
pimply faced guy like search for ghosts? If I could be watching you or
Stormy Daniels, you get my book? Oh thanks, maybe i'll watch us
together. Yeah. Yeah, andthere was something else that I wanted to

(01:02:45):
ask about. Hold on, I'msorry, I'm trying to read this live
chat and I'm way behind here,but I don't want to keep you for
too long. I guess I wasgoing to ask you about let's see.
Oh, I'm sorry to fix it'shere. No, I think I covered
most of what I really wanted tocover, and especially you're about this bus

(01:03:07):
that you've been building. That's amazing. And are you doing that work yourself
or you've got a lot of friendshelping you. My friends are like they
keep me alive, they keep megoing. I have a friend that's a
carpenter that helped me really lay everythingout, and I did a lot of
it. You could definitely tell it'sdone by me. I'll run you through
all the mistakes and everything. I'mvery humble about my mistakes. You know,

(01:03:30):
I have a couple of chopped uppieces here and there. It is
a labor of love, mostly onmy end. But I asked people before
I put in floors and electric wiringand stuff, because I don't want to
burn my schooly down, says,I want to hang with Rachel and store
me. They seem so much morefun than the other ghost guys. Thank

(01:03:52):
you. Oh that was the otherquestion. Now, I know I skipped
it here. I wanted to askyou about these ghost shows because you know,
I started trying to watch a lotof these different ghost hunting shows,
and I don't know. I cameaway with like, if nothing happens,
they don't have a show. Andit seems like every little bump in the
night, every little thing, theyjust automatically attribute it to ghost activity.

(01:04:14):
And I've seen that you don't reallyseem to push that we've got to have
some activity, Like you go toa place and if there's no activity,
there's no activity. Pretty honest.What do you think about some of these
ghost shows and are they just pushingsort of fake wu to keep an audience.
Sometimes I think that I think wecould all say that, you know,
after a while of being on TVand twenty episodes go by, people

(01:04:39):
are going to expect something, andit's really I mean, I can understand
how much pressure it would be tokeep the audience entertained and to continue to
I really have a really lot ofgood luck with little things, but driving
home the fact that something doesn't alwayshappen on these investigations is really really important.

(01:05:00):
I'll be doing lectures and people willbe like on a haunted location and
be like, I demand a ghostto come, and I'm like, do
you normally see ghosts? And they'relike no, And I'm like, you're
probably not going to see what.I'm a thirty minute tour with me.
This is not McDonald's. You knowthe ghost that Yeah, that's kind of
like there's actually UFO places that's likethey pretty much promise you the world and

(01:05:26):
then you go there and you justsee a little light in the sky and
oh yeah, mothership and yeah,it's just to make them write a disclaimer
on all my all my ghost huntsnow like this, this buying a tour
does not guarantee a ghost. That'sjust part of it. Like, you
know, you can't expect that,and let's do to dress up for you

(01:05:47):
or some projectors. I know whatpeople want their real experience I've done.
I've done some incredibly cool ghost stuffwith projectors. I used to be really
into that. I should send youa video. Yeah, I'd love that.
I want to see that he's talkingabout. Okay, well, I
don't want to keep you any longerbecause I know you're a busy lady,

(01:06:09):
and I kept you up late tonightand your bus there. It's so cool
to connect with you, and thankyou so much for doing us. I
hope that you'll come back here andgive us an update on what's going on
because we could use a resident ghostexpert here on our show. We've got
UFO experts and some other experts.I'd love to consider you a friend.
That would be a great thing forme and for our show. I would

(01:06:31):
love that. Thank you, I'mhonored. All right, We'll be in
touch, Rachel, and good luckwith all of your future projects. Thank
you so much. Thank you forhaving me all right, Thanks for Rachel.
You have a good evening, Thankyou too, Thank you all right.
What a fun conversation friends. Tonightwas a selfish endeavor because I really

(01:06:54):
just wanted to sort of connect withthis person that I've been watching for quite
a while. Now and it wasan interesting conversation. Now I'm going to
turn my attention to the live chatif you guys have any comments or questions
for me before we wrap things uphere. And I just want to mention,
do you hear that? No moresqueaking lights? So thank you Maryohee.

(01:07:18):
You were right. Those lights werevery squeaky. And I'm talking about
these lights here, these weird sortof watery lights. They're cool though,
and I really like him and Iwanted to still use them. So today
I spent quite a long time takingthese things all part and oiling every moving
part on them, and I thinkthat we solve the problem. There's no

(01:07:44):
squeaking. Now. You may stillhear this dull hum from the from the
motors. Nothing I can do aboutthat. Maybe we can try wrapping some
insulation around them, but I thinkwe've solved that problem. So little by
little, these little technical hang upsare being taken care of, and I
want to thank you guys. I'msorry I forgot all about what we were
talking about yesterday, and I hada mini panic attack when I realized that

(01:08:09):
we're going to be having a femaleguest on tonight. That, by the
way, I don't you know.You guys know, this is the first
time that I've ever talked to Rachel, and I didn't want the live chat
to get bombed with the comments aboutyesterday's show and dildo seeking and David Wilcock,
and so thank you guys for notdoing that, because listen, I
can tell now that she's pretty chill, and I could explain to her why

(01:08:32):
people are making those kind of commentsin the live chat, but she doesn't
know walking in here, so forall she knows, you know, it
just could have been It could havebeen pretty awkward. Now, if you
guys want to make comments about dildoseeking, you have my blessing to do
so. And I'm going to turnmy attention here back to you guys in

(01:08:55):
the live chat. Yeah, herewe go, Rick von hemleck Splooner.
Now that Rachel has left, canwe mention adil those Yeah, you can
mention the dildos all you want.I just didn't want her to get the
wrong idea and think that any ofthose comments were directed towards her. You
know, we have to be respectfulwell to all guests. We have to
be respectful, but especially to onethat I don't know very well. Like,

(01:09:19):
that's the first time I talked toher. H and super resee.
I like this program good. I'mspewing. I missed the start, begs
oh and Brandon Young. I wasjust teasing you, bro. I can't
blame it. I can't blame abrother for trying. Man. God bless

(01:09:41):
that girl's boyfriend. Right, Okay, let's see Nicholas koopas says Hi Stephen,
any movement up, d W's Allie, I'm not sure what you mean
by movement. I am preparing forthe challenge that we laid out still and

(01:10:03):
we'll have more on that in thenext week or so. I'm also preparing
sort of a special report on thisDanian Brinkley. I'm going to do a
quick show, hopefully quick show maybetomorrow that's going to just detail what I
think of David Wilcox's new partner inSlime or Grifter partner, this Danian Brinkley,

(01:10:29):
and what I find may be surprisingto some people. Do I think
that Danian Brinkley really died four timesand had a near death experience and came
back each time? And by theway, just a correction yesterday's show or
I'm sorry on my last show wasn'tyesterday. I said that he died five
times. That is inaccurate. Sohere's the correction. We want to be

(01:10:51):
respectful, even to the people thatwe really don't believe. He did not
die five times. Friends, hedied four times. And call it a
coincidence or not. But he's writtenfour books, one for each of the
times he died and had a neardeath experience. I find that somewhat suspect,

(01:11:15):
very much suspect. Nicholas Krupas hejust had to. He just wanted
to say, Dildo's Yeah, okay, let's see six of designs. I
have an idea on something to dowith the buried treasure, hopefully as fun
as I think. I will submitmy entry sometime soon. Yeah, we
would love to see that. Thatwould be a good thing to see.

(01:11:39):
So I gotta tell you, friends, I don't know why, but I
was really nervous starting the show.I think because things were last minute,
like just one of those days wherelike the like the backdrop was giving me
trouble two minutes before we went live, and I'm trying to tack it up,
and you know, uh, andI forgot actually forgot the phone today,

(01:12:01):
which is a whole another area atmy house, So we're gonna skip
the call in line today. Ithink it was good. Philip Blair says
David Brinkley is more interesting. Tobe honest, I haven't been watching David
Wilcock, but I've seen you guysreviewing him. Okay, David Wilcox said
he died four times. Then DavidWilcock said he died five same show.

(01:12:27):
Yeah, David Wilcock is kind ofYeah. He contradicts himself all the time,
and I love by the way,shout out to c W. Channer.
I have been watching c W.Channer's takedown or analysis of his latest
videos, and God bless c WChanner because he watches a four hour David

(01:12:47):
Wilcock video so I don't have toI can just listen to his analysis.
And I love this lie. Ohman, I'm gonna blank on what he
calls it, but this thing thatDavid Wilcock does where he mentions it actual
thing and then later it's like thelie, the circle back line maneuver.
He'll mention some factual And I neverrealized this, but CW. Chanter is

(01:13:09):
dead on. If you watch DavidWlcock, he'll mention something factual in cite
a good source that's an actual factualstatement, and then later he'll mention that
again and throw a lie in there. And he does it constantly. It's
gonna be a lot harder to keepgoing with these, with these live fests,
with people like CW. Channer,given the analysis b G says,

(01:13:31):
David Wilcock is a dil though.Yes, he just maybe he's gonna die
soon. Well, he's gonna dieone more time than milk it. You
may be right, super V podcast. I think that this he's gonna die
any minute now. Thing of Dw'sis a setup. That's my theory.

(01:13:56):
I could be wrong, but Ithink they're setting them up so they can
write a new book. He's gonnadie for a fifth time just so he
has material to write a new book. And I just wanted to mention that
I agree with a few other people, like what, Oh, let's say
that one hundred percent of everything DanielBrickley ever said was true. That he
died five times, He's had fiveor four times. I keep saying five.

(01:14:23):
He's died four times. He's hadfour near death experiences and come back
from them. Okay, let's takethat all his absolute fact. Well,
then why should we listen to himabout anything to do with roswell or light
bodies. Near as I can recall, he is not an expert in it

(01:14:45):
tantric Buddhism or Buddhism in general tobe teaching people about light bodies. And
isn't it interesting friends that David Wilcock, Here's what I believe he does.
He has a deck of cards andyou know, on the one side is
the back of the card is justlike a playing card. Just the face
of the you know, in thefront of the card is blank. And

(01:15:05):
what he does, He's got fiftytwo cards and he writes things on each
card like mass arrests, you know, like light bodies, ascension, And
he just puts these cards, fiftytwo of them in a deck. And
when he needs to do a show, he just gets out that deck of
cards and lays out cards. Rightrandom bullshit. Oh, he's circling back

(01:15:30):
to light bodies. David Wilcock,you dumbass, super Smooth Deluxe. You've
already done the light bodies and nothinghappened. We were supposed to get the
light bodies in the year two thousand. That's what you predicted we'd all get
these superpowers. We didn't get anysuperpowers, David Wilcock, because you were
wrong, because you're stupid. Youjust make shit up. Didn't happen in

(01:15:53):
the year two thousand, isn't gonnahappen. And again he circled back to
light bodies in twenty twelve. We'reall gonna send that's what the prophecies all
about twenty twelve are. And hestrung together so much separate nonsense, the
Blue Star Hopee prophecy, the Mayans, and his own flawed, not flawed,

(01:16:17):
completely wrong interpretation of light bodies fromBuddhism. He's strung all this crap
together and decided we were all gonnaget light bodies and superpowers and telekinesis and
mind reading and levitation would be ascalm and as breathing. Didn't happen in

(01:16:38):
twenty twelve, you dumb ass,David Wilcock. And now he's come back
to it. Now he's come backto the light bodies friends. He is
desperate for new material. He hasno material, he's not getting briefings,
he doesn't have intel. Every timeI hear him say I've got some new
intel. You don't have INTEL,and you sure don't have any intil intelligence,

(01:17:00):
despite the fact that you claim tohave one hundred and eighty IQ,
you dumb ass sixths design. Ilike the backdrop you got totally fits you,
dude. You know what, SIXS. I looked for backdrops for literally
every night for a week, andI kept going through putting different search terms

(01:17:25):
in Amazon, and I found thisone and I went, that's it.
Like I didn't know what I waslooking for, but as soon as I
saw this one, I went,that's it. And I got another one
which is sort of like a spacescene that I kind of like, and
I'm going to be using that oneat the cabin. But part of me
doesn't want to put a backdrop upat the cabin because I worked for a

(01:17:45):
year on those walls and you know, and besides, it's kind of a
novelty, Like, you know,I'm a I'm at a cabin doing a
live stream show, so I mightjust leave the cabin backdrop be the cabin,
right philm player looks like you're hidingout in an aquarium after hours.

(01:18:05):
Yeah, it looks like I couldbe swimming in here. I like it.
I like it. Our Solar Marshalis here. Shout out the Solar
Marshall. I could none of youknow about Brinkley. I haven't known about
him since the eighties. He wason Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack. Why
is he with David Wilcox. Oh, that's a great point, Solar Marshall.

(01:18:26):
Why is David Wilcox suddenly got anew Let's just call him a presenting
partner. Folks, there's a reasonthat this guy Danny and Brinkley suddenly showed
up in David Wilcock and is allup in David Wilcox's shit living in his
house. I don't know. Accordingto David Wilcock, he's dying and Elizabeth
and him are helping the guy.You know, I guess die okay looks.

(01:18:54):
I don't know if that's true ornot that he's dying, But based
on every other time that David Wilcockhas lied to me, no one could
blame me for assuming that David Wilcockis lying about this Daniel Brinkley being terminally
ill. Do we still have timeto buy burying document film or own DilOS

(01:19:15):
F dwfind Yes. I'm not goingto put a time limit on my viewers
who are burying dildos for David Wilcock. But there are some new rules and
I'm going to talk about him here. If you're going to bury one,
you have to email me at TruthseekerShow at gmail dot com. Then I'm
going to give you a special codeand you have to write that code on

(01:19:38):
a piece of paper and put itin your box of dildos. This is
just to prevent slimeball David Wilcock fromfive, you know, saying that he
found a bunch of dildos that havenothing to do with my viewers, and
uh, you know, I don'tknow if he would do that, but
I don't want any possibility that therecould be trickery or somebody claimed. You

(01:19:58):
know, he can't be claiming thathe's just finding random dildos. He's got
to find dildos that my viewers buryin their secret locations. So email me
truth Seekers Show, and it's notTruth Seekers Show, it's t r U
t H s E E K ER s h O W one word at
gmail dot com. I'll give youthe super secret David Wilcock Box of Dildo's

(01:20:24):
Challenge code, and you've got toput that in when you bury your dildo.
This way, if David Wilcock findsthat dildo, he'll be able to
give me the code and we cancheck it on my spreadsheet and determine that
yes, he found one of thedildos. Do I think he's going to
find a single dildo, let alonemy tremendous, huge treasure box full of

(01:20:46):
dildos? Absolutely not, Folks,He's not going to find shit because he's
a dumb ass idiot. He's nota psychic, he's not channeling gods like
rob he doesn't have government in siders. His friends don't really talk to aliens,
accepting their own imaginations, just likeDavid wilcock friends. He's not Edgar

(01:21:09):
Casey reincarnated. But if he is, find a box of dildos, you
dumb ass, all this shit you'vebeen spewing for twenty five years and you
can't find it a single box ofdildos that somebody buried. What good are
your superpowers if you can't tell wherepeople are burying dildos? Just for you,

(01:21:30):
David Wilcock, you dumb ass.Oh and that's another thing, Listen,
I'm not complaining because I'm happy foreverybody that has posted anything about the
David Wilcock Box of Dildo's Challenge.But a lot of people are posting and
not hashtagging it, so please andthen I'm retweeting what they going to try

(01:21:51):
to retweet what people tweet about theDavid Wilcock Box of Dildo's Challenge and then
hashtag it myself. But it wouldbe much better if you're going to post
something, you just want a hashtag, and that would be the number sign
and then his name, David Wilcock, and then dildo Seekert. All one
word, David Wilcock, Dildo Secret, David Wilcock, You're the dildo secret.

(01:22:12):
Now I'm the truth Seekert. DavidWilcock, you're a dildo seeker.
Let's light him up, friends,let's light him up. Oh and I
did tag his live chat and Ijust want to say that, you know
this, first of all, thiswhole experiment is ridiculous. Somebody sent me
an email and said, Steve,I like your show, but this is

(01:22:33):
kind of ridiculous. You're right,Burying dildos for a fake psychic define is
stupid. It's ridiculous, But it'sequally ridiculous that this asshole has been a
way out to go on the internettelling fairy tales for twenty five years and
somehow able to buy himself million dollarmansions, one hundred thousand dollars cars.

(01:22:56):
It's ridiculous, and so is ourdildo cham I'm not gonna apologize for our
dildo challenge being ridiculous. David Wilcox'sbullshit and fairy tales are ridiculous. The
number of times he's been caught lyingis ridiculous. The fact that he will
not address real criticism about his financialmatters, about all of this shady financial

(01:23:19):
dealings that he's been involved in.Why won't you answer questions? He won't
answer questions because he doesn't want to. He doesn't want people to know the
truth. He's a pussy, Okay. Dw's own words. He wants to
milk Brinkley before he died. Yeah, this dumb ass got caught saying we're

(01:23:40):
gonna milk this. And also it'sin the marketing materials for his new course,
Daniel Brinckley may die, but don'tworry. We've pre recorded so you'll
still get your money's worth. Ishe worried about his friend dying or is
he worried about selling another bullshit courseto another crop of stupid, hopeless people

(01:24:04):
that believe anything that he says.I don't know about you, but if
I had a close friend that I'veknown for twenty years that was dying living
in my hands, the last thingI would be doing is trying to sell
shit related to my dying friend.I would be caring for and attending and
spending every moment I could with mydying friend. But that's just me,

(01:24:27):
and you know what, this ishysterical. I'm not a love and light
person. I'm not a spiritual guru, but I think most people would agree
with me that have an eterminally oldpatient live with you and trying to sell
some shit before he dies, hurryup and sell some shit while that terminal
patient's living with you before he dies. That makes you a disgusting, filthy,

(01:24:49):
evil human being, David Wilcock.Nobody would do that except you,
you greedy stupid man. That's howgreedy he is. Well, this guy's
dying, we might as well wilt. We might as well milk it while
he's living here. Sell a newcourse. BGCW is a great sport.

(01:25:12):
He read my super chat about JasonQuit. Oh, I didn't think about
that. Yeah, I should goin there and super chat, and I
think I did do one, buthe missed it because he was talking at
the time and it was really spooky. Said something greater than something else.
So I put Jason Quit greater thanc. W. Channer, but he
missed it. Damn it. MaybeI'll do it as a super chat and

(01:25:34):
he has to read it. Ohyeah, he wants to milk it.
He definitely wants to milk it.He just repeats the same things and goes
off on a tangent way too often. Oh dear, yeah, I'm away
behind guys quits super funk at quitsquilts. I did not know that day

(01:25:56):
that Jason Quit made quilts, andI still haven't talked to him about this,
super v He makes quilts, that'swhat he does. That's just like
wow, that's like a dude knittinga man making quilts. I'm sorry,
Jason Quit. You're already Canadian,right, so that like pegs a few
points off of your manliness scale beingCanadian because you're too polite. But come

(01:26:18):
on, Jason quitn you make quilts. He's a dwilldo maybe now I understand
why CW. Chanter doesn't understand JasonQuit. I don't understand some of the
stuff he does either. Brad Graywork in Plastic Factor and I made two
h huge dildos, one black,one white, but the white is not

(01:26:40):
the most of wearing in colors.Wow, Brad Gray, send me or
tweet me a picture of those dildos. If you actually made two huge dildos,
that would be awesome. Would callsuper vs. Six Is Designs.
Shout out to six Designs and allyou guys here bgs. I heard him
the nineties R Bell Show. Yeah, I've heard of Danny and Brinkley before

(01:27:01):
on something and I think it waseither Unsolved Mysteries or God. There was
a show and I can't remember blankingon the name of it. Oh,
The Outer Limits maybe or something likethat where they did all paranormal stories and
Danian Brinkley's story about dying and wakingup in the Morgue was in there.
I'm going to try to find thatfor my special report on dani and Brinkley.

(01:27:23):
There's a movie called The Deadney Zonewith Christopher Walker. It's very similar
to Brinkley's story. Brinkley maintains theevent happens in nineteen seventy five. Yes,
and not coincidentally, it took cometwenty years to tell the story,
which doesn't really I don't know.If I had some incredible prophecies to share
with humankind that I got from Godand the angels through a near death experience,

(01:27:44):
I don't think I'd wait twenty yearsto write it down. But hey,
you know that's just me. Thebest lie is the one that's mostly
truth. I agree with you,reem C. I wish I had a
late body, but I just keepgetting away instead. You know what rem
see, I lost forty five poundsnot long ago, and boy, ask
anybody that's ever lost like forty orfifty pounds. It's not easy. It

(01:28:06):
took a lot of consistent effort indieting and switching the light beer. And
here's what happened. I started gettingtoo complacent. Is that the right word.
I started getting too comfortable with thefact that I would keep the weight
off. So I switched back toreal beer. And that was a stupid
idea because now I'm starting to creepup a few pounds, going to have
to go back to the light beer. David Wilcock is so boring and such

(01:28:28):
a hoaxer. Why do people bothereven talking about him? Because it's fun,
Solar Marshall, And it's easy hemakes If you're somebody that likes to
catch these frauds and lies, hemakes your life really easy. Dw there
was very little truth. You canfigure out most of it. It's just
made up bs. What a turd. I agree. Tibet and Rainbow Body

(01:28:49):
was studied by David Wilcock. He'sbored the work of father Francis Tissau,
made it really weird and passed itoff as a zone. It would not
surprise me some people are passionate becausethey have been burned by the guy and
for part of the grift. Yeah, yeah, you know, I thought
of something really funny. Was justlike, I don't know if it's this

(01:29:12):
book The Source Field Investigations, Ithink, And that book is filled with
stories about Pete Peterson. And quitehonestly, I thought that David Wilcock should
be forced to give me my moneyback for that book. And because the
book is filled with lies from provenNow I've proven that Pete Peterson lied about
his entire background. He wasn't youknow, we're not going to go over

(01:29:34):
again. Pete Peterson had this biographyfull of all of these bragging claims,
one of them that he is hethat he won the Russian Order of Lenin
award. Folks, you can lookthat up. That was a lie.
Everything in Pete Peterson's biography is alie. So if David Wilcock writes a
book that he says is fat not, he's not saying this is a fictional

(01:29:57):
book. He's saying these are allreal stories. And we can prove that
the guy that's telling all these stories, Pete Peterson, is a fraud,
then I think David Wilcox should haveto give all the money back from that
book full lies from a lying fateso called government insider that never works for
the government. Can and David Wilcock, you can't prove you ever worked for

(01:30:19):
the government, you dumb ass.In one of your videos, you said
Pete Peterson is the only person thatever worked for the CIA, the NSA
and the DA dumba ass, dumbass, David Wilcock, you are you
claim you're some great researcher. Asecond grader can go to those websites and

(01:30:41):
believe it or not, Folks,you can verify employment, and as long
as a person is not in anactive undercover position, they will verify employment
if somebody works at the CIA,THEDA, or the NSA. Yes,
folks, you can do it,and I did it in the case of
Pete. Peterson didn't work in anyof those three agencies. So there you
go. David Wlcock, it's justone of your lies. I busted you

(01:31:02):
on and it was easy. Itwas so easy. Three emails, three
focals, maybe six emails, sixvocals, and I prove that you just
lied through your teeth in a videosponsored by your charitable organization. So you've
got a charitable organization that you're payingyourself out of to create these videos,

(01:31:24):
and in the videos you are lyingthrough your teeth to people, So you
want people to donate to your foundationso you can pay yourself to create videos
where you can lie through your teethto people. It's ridiculous. David Wilcock,
can sew are you doctor death convincedone hundred plus people to commit suicide

(01:31:46):
using Brinkley's White Lights? Bliss youfor you DS Angel story. I did
not hear that You're going to haveto explain that one to me on Twitter
and a DM super v I lovethe hear more about that. Might you
have a link to her channel site? Just a thought unless she wants privacy

(01:32:06):
kind of thing. No, mostof her stuff she posts on Facebook,
and I'll post the link here.Hold on, okay, folks, let
me get this up here and wesee her in this shot. Like I

(01:32:28):
said, today was like a guiltypleasure because I got to I got to
talk to somebody that I had beenreally kind of watching from the sidelines for
a long time, and it wasinteresting to get to do that and put,
you know, a voice and moreof a face to her name and
get to know her a little bit. It was fun. And you know,
friends, that's more of what Ishould be doing with my show and

(01:32:51):
not you know, it should befun. Right Tonight was fun? Thank
you all for being here. I'mto share this screen one more time.
And this is Rachel Hoffman. Thatwas our guest tonight. What a great
girl, interesting girl, Paranormal expeditionsand it's Facebook dot com. G Could

(01:33:13):
somebody help me out and copy thisand put it in the live chat?
So oh yeah, Actually, I'mnot sure that you can put a link
in the live chat, but it'sRachel Hoffman. Hold on, friends,
No, I'm sorry you guys knowI have a prom Oh wait a minute,
I can do it on my otherscreen. One a second. Okay,

(01:33:33):
now I can see it. ThisI kills me sometimes, guys.
I apologize Facebook dot Com backslash Racheland there's no A in the Rachel.
It's just r A C H E. L. Hoffman h O F F
M A N nine one six.And you'll find her Paranormal Expeditions. And
I'm telling you're gonna have a goodtime if you please like her page because

(01:33:56):
uh, you know, I thinkwe should support her. Maybe she'll come
back. I would really like that. And I'm telling you if you go
to her Paranormal Expeditions Facebook page,you're gonna see posts about our bus,
about our adventures, and she's postingthese videos which are like walkthroughs of these
haunted locations. It's so much funwatching her. I really enjoy it,
and I think you will too.Yeah, so we've shared that Corey Goodeb

(01:34:27):
jokes. DW doesn't get a passwith me, that's for sure. He's
a con artist. The more peoplewe can in the lighten, the better.
I agree. Yeah, you guysneed new material. We've got the
Sarah Adams investigation still ongoing. Oh, I wanted to mention about that.
So I'm gonna, man, letme see you guys are gonna stick around

(01:34:54):
for a little while. So here'swhat I gotta do. I have to
take a short break. But whenI get back, what we're going to
do is we are going to giveyou an update on the strange case of
Sarah Adams. Things have to bepushed back, and there is a reason
for that. Listen, things areunavoidable. But I'm gonna and there's a

(01:35:17):
few things in relation to the SarahAdams, a strange case of Sarah Adams
that I'd like to update everybody on. And this is really kind of important.
So we're going to take a shortbreak so I can attend to something
very quickly. So I'm going tobe a minute or two and then we're
gonna be right back and we'll dothat. Stay tuned. Friends will be
right back, okay, friends,and we are back. When I was

(01:36:20):
quick, I don't know if thatI think that's supposed to fade slowly,
not jumped so quickly. Okay,So let me get back to the live
chat and then we're gonna we're gonnatalk about the strange case of Sarah Adams
for a bit. So first ofall, I just want to say that,

(01:36:41):
like, uh, let me seehere, things take time, And
you know, that's saying like lifeis what happens when you're busy making plans.
Here's what I planned. I plannedon doing one show with that girl
and have her on interviewer talk aboutwhatever's going on with her second powers,

(01:37:05):
her abilities. But when you getinto this girl, there's just if I
want to do a good job,I can't do it in one shot.
So I said, well I'll doI'll talk about the strange experience that I
had with her for one show.Then I'll bring her on. But then

(01:37:26):
we get into a lot of alot of things happen. So far,
I've had two more sessions with SarahAdams, so you know, I don't
want to get into the specifics ofthe actual sessions that I had with her,

(01:37:47):
but here's what I'm going to say. I also, she kept talking
about how she helps a lot ofterminally ill patience and things like that and
does a lot of does a lotof you know, work to help people
who are transitioning between you know thatare terminals. So I wanted to see

(01:38:08):
what that experience is like for aterminally ill patient. So we've connected her
with somebody that I know has aninoperable condition and honestly, they really have
only so long to live. Ithought that would be an interesting thing and
we could share that sort of experiencewith the audience. What is it like

(01:38:29):
for her an intuitive healer who workson ours and chakras and you know,
she thinks that she can heal peoplethrough energy. What is that experience going
to be like for a terminally illpatient? Is will they find the experience
of these sessions with her to bebeneficial? So for that and the reason

(01:38:53):
that all of these things happened withthese two additional sessions that I've had with
her, since the first one,her and I have had a couple of
really long conversations and there's a lot. There's just too much to unpack.
So she's gonna be doing hopefully,if all those well, she's gonna be
doing this session with this terminally illpatient on Friday, it's scheduled. I

(01:39:18):
think it'll go off without a problemboth sides, you know, or where
Okay, here's the date and time. She's just got to call him do
the session. She does most ofher sessions over the phone. And after
that, I'm going to come backto the strange case of Sarah Adams.
We're going to discuss the two additionalsessions that I've had with her since since

(01:39:43):
the first one. We're going totalk about some let's just say, revelations
that I had. We're going totalk about some of the information that I
found on her concerning her history andfriends. You're not gonna want to miss
it. Then people are asking alot of questions too about People are sending

(01:40:06):
me information she's selling homeopathic remedies andthat's illegal. People are saying she's selling
healing sessions for people with corona thatmight not be legal. You know,
I don't know, but you know, I thought it would be good to
talk to her manager, this guyTaj for two reasons. First, this

(01:40:29):
guy seems incredibly devoted to her,I mean devoted. You know. He
runs her YouTube channel and I thinkher websites and all this other stuff.
As I as I found out recently, he also does her scheduling, and
certainly her manager would be able toanswer some questions about some of that homeopathic

(01:40:53):
remedies and is she doing healing servicesfor people with corona? And so we're
gonna have him on and interview him, and then we're gonna interview Sarah and
hopefully we'll be able to wrap upthe strange case of Sarah Adams. We're
also going to talk to that terminallyill patient that she's going to give the
sessions to. Let's see six isdesigned. Daniel James Dull Honey Twitter had

(01:41:16):
a bit of a conversation with EdgeBlunder's Ben Chastein. He said to me,
I will stand by it if wewere wrong. We are afraid to
say we were wrong, unlike others. Is you're gonna say he's wrong about?
What is he gonna say he's wrongabout? Though? Oh the uh
yeah, that Australian trip and thatyeah, is it? Peter Slattery?

(01:41:38):
They can never tell the truth forthe life of them. They lie nearly
one hundred percent of the time.Yeah, those guys, I don't know
what to tell you. Friends,I can't watch them. I think like
it's too it's too manufactured and toopropaganda fake for me, especially when you
know that they're being financed by amulti million dollar religious organization in one form

(01:42:01):
or another. That's my belief.That might be speculations, but there's there's
a good amount of supportive evidence thatI would be reasonable in my conclusions of
that. Right, So, youknow, coming up, we're going to
continue to unpack this strange case ofSarah Adams. We've got an analysis of

(01:42:25):
some of Danian Brinkley's claims, andwe are going to do an update on
the David Wilcock Box of Dildo's Challenge. Coming up, we've got Jason Quitt.
Jason Quitt is going to be backto do We're doing a show on
the Japanese Suicide Forest and it's kindof Japanese name I'm blanking on right now.

(01:42:48):
Just google Japanese Suicide Forest if youwant to know what I'm talking about.
It is an amazing story that Ican't wait to bring you, just
as luck would have it. SinceDave, Jason Quit is involved in all
kinds of paranormal stuff. Maybe it'sbecause he's an inter dimensional time traveler.

(01:43:09):
I don't know, but if there'ssomething paranormal, he ends up there.
Jason Quit spent some actual time inthis Japanese suicide for us, and I
thought, that's great, we gotit. We had a person that's been
there on the ground and witnessed thisplace, and he's got some crazy stories
about that place, so we're goingto bring him on. He's also going
to a show on the cash landrunincident we're developing, and we have a

(01:43:32):
show on EVPs we're trying to getoff the ground. And a few others
in the pipeline b geez woom seeyay, Jason quit there you go leave

(01:43:53):
it. The Jasmine Emeric, whowas so studious and knowledgeable. I'm so
glad when she's in a live chatbecause I know if I ankled something or
say something stupid, she'll be thereto correct me. Oh al kigagara.
I think I'm gonna have to finda pronunciation guide for sure before I do
that show. I went sixth todesign and yeah, so this is a

(01:44:15):
pretty famous place. Yeah, soif you guys have any additional questions or
comments, uh oh wait a minute, there you go. There's apparently movies
about that place, a few ofthem. Yeah, but I think those
are fictional movies, but still fun. Nonetheless, and I want to try
to watch those I found them.I think I felt two. I want

(01:44:38):
to try to check those out beforeI do the show, because it's interesting
the cultural tech context that you knowthat these people have had as well.
So if you have any additional questionsor comments, please do put them in
all caps for me, otherwise we'regoing to wrap things up here in just
a bit. I just want toget this okay and there we go.

(01:45:11):
Oh what just happened? Oh therewe go? Yeah, sorry, friends,
I got a little lost here.I uh, you know, I
started to stream and I just happenedto have like a brand new Windows ten
laptops, so that's what I'm using. And I can't tell you how I
forgot what it's like to have towork on Windows. It's terrible. I

(01:45:35):
can't wait to move to my Linuxsystem. And luckily the software were used
for the show is all cloud based. It will work from any browser,
so I'm not going to be forcedto use this shit show operating system Windows
for much longer. We'll be switchingBrad Gray on this Zuki suck any more.

(01:46:05):
Bear sightings at the Cabin, Yes, Begs and I have a video
this time, but for some reason, I could have posted to Twitter.
I'm going to figure it out andthen I'm going to be posting it to
Twitter. Well, friends, weare coming up on an hour and forty
five minutes, so I think we'regoing to call it a night for tonight.

(01:46:25):
Tomorrow, I'm hopefully going to bedoing the show on doing another show
at ten thirty pm, but Imight try to do something a little differently
and do it during the day.I'm not sure how could have an idea
that could be because I'm going tohave the kids here and that might be
you know, that might be aproblem, but it's worth trying because if
I could do a show in aday. Oh, here we go.

(01:46:50):
Also known as the Sea of Treesas a forest on a northwestern flank of
Japans Mount Fuji, thriving on thirtysquare kilometers of harden lava laid down by
the last major eruption of Mount Fujiin eighteen sixty four. Yes, and
most interesting for our purposes, it'scalled the suicide Forest, and people go

(01:47:12):
there and kill themselves. People gothere and kill themselves so much, in
fact, that the government has hiredcounselors. There's counselors that the Japanese government
has counselors that patrol the forest andtry to talk people out of killing themselves.
Not only that, but the Japanesegovernment also has a team, not

(01:47:34):
one person, not two people,a team of people in their employee they're
paid by the Japanese government whose soleresponsibility is removing bodies from this forest.
Folks. That's how many people goto this Japanese forest to kill themselves that
the government had to hire an entireteam a team, folks. It takes

(01:48:00):
a team of people to go throughthat forest and carry the dead bodies out.
And most of the debts are byhanging, so some of the bodies
aren't found right away. It's justa great story. Okay, six is
design. I have Linux installment andthese are for Clydestine operations. Most of
my stuff is on the Windows.Yeah. Windows is just easy if you

(01:48:24):
need to get worked on calilinux.Very useful. I know all about Cali
Linux actually know Aughty six as designsnetwork testing. Is that the forest with
the dolls? No, that BG'sthat's the forest where all these people go

(01:48:45):
to kill themselves. Sounds like afilm player, sounds like the Golden gate
Bridge. Yeah, and there maybe no reason that some of these places
are such hotspots for for people tocommit suicide. And maybe there's some kind
of dark energy at that location,some kind of nexus of dark energy that

(01:49:06):
causes either draws already depress people there, or somehow affects people. Can you
proof your cabin like electric fence orsomething. Yeah, we're looking into it.
Mostly, I'm going to try beardeterrence, which I believe, as
I've already mentioned, is wolf urine. And the fact that I have to
pay money for wolf urine to keepthe bears away is just kind of funny

(01:49:30):
to me. They sell you thisbig thing of wolf urine and you sprinkle
it around your property lines, andthe bears are really really afraid of the
wolves. When they smell that,they stay pretty far away, or so
I'm told. I don't know howeffective it is, That's what we may
be trying. I have young childrenat the cabin, so of course a

(01:49:51):
bunch of bears running around is alittle concerning to me. I saw one
last two weeks or last week atthe cabin. I thought they nailed dolls
to the trees and the suicide first, you may be right, Beg's I'll
look into that and we'll unpack thaton the actual show with Jason Quick.
We'll be able to ask Jason Quickbecause he's actually been there. I think

(01:50:14):
there's a lure associated. I think, for real, there could be local
legends and other things that are contributingto the story, but you never know.
Well, friends, it's been along day for me. I want
to thank each and every one ofyou for joining us today. It was
really fun to talk to this totalk to this Rachel who I've been following

(01:50:38):
for a long time. So,friends, thanks for joining me. You
know, I'm still on the fence. I'm not sure that I believe in
ghosts. I'm really not sure thatI believe in ghosts. But one thing
that I'm sure I believe, friends, is this, the ghosts of the

(01:51:02):
past speak. They speak if we'rewilling to listen. So until next time,
friends, I'm Stephen Cambian reminding you, and I'm still not sure I
believe in ghosts, but one thingI'm definitely sure of is that the ghosts
of the past speak to all thosewilling to listen. Good Night, folks,

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