Nazca mummies EXPOSED! Again!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Truth fake guys exposing truth truth gus call me for
you my coming.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Open your eyes. Greetings and salutations, friends, and welcome back.
I'm Stephen Cambion and you're watching truth Seekers. We have
covered these stupid fake alien mummy hoaxes multiple times since

(00:39):
twenty seventeen. Uh and this one bothers me. This one
really pisses me off because there are scumbag garbage pedaler
merchants like Jesse Michaels, like Vetted, like Jimmy Church, like
Christina Gomez, and hordes of other garbage pedaling scumbags that

(01:05):
have cashed in and cashed in and cashed in on this.
Jesse Michaels even made a documentary an hour and twenty
minutes and got almost a million views. And meanwhile, the
videos which show you scientific proof that these things are
fake and how fake they are a couple thousand views.

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Even this ninety thousand subscriber channel Incredible History, which just
did we're going to share with you tonight, just did
an incredible job taking these things apart, literally taking them apart,
their constructs, their stagecraft. They're fake, completely and totally fake,

(01:47):
only got a few thousand views. Even with ninety thousand subscribers.
It's almost as if the powers that be want people
to believe in total, complete and total bullshit, because I
just don't understand why a video that is showing you
the scientific evidence and proof that these things are fake

(02:08):
and how fake they are gets no views whatsoever, but
people claiming they're aliens a million views. Jesse Michaels is
a despicable, degenerate scumbag and disinformation peduler. If it's on
Jesse Michael's show, it's fake. I'll tell you that with
some degree of certainty. If he's talking to somebody who's

(02:30):
telling a story, the story is fake. After all, he
bets Dave Grush and Charles Hall was my favorite. Jesse Michaels,
you have, like how many how many subscribers do you have?
You can't check if somebody was actually in the Air
Force before running to cash in on a clickbait garbage

(02:51):
article or excuse me, clickbake garbage video. You got to
get your money somehow. Who cares if Charles Hall was
never in the Air Force and his whole story starts
with when I was in the Air Force? Just sell
his alien stories anyway. I'm pretty sure that some of
these people are might be retarded, like Jesse Michaels. The

(03:11):
only excuse that is valid for Jesse Michaels not doing
any research whatsoever is that he's retarded. And if listen,
Jesse Michaels, if you're retarded, I forgive you for being
a disinformation pedaling scumbag and doing absolutely no research whatsoever

(03:32):
into all the false propaganda, disinformation, misinformation and fake stories
that you sell. I'll forgive you if you're retarded. But
if you're not retarded, there's no excuse for this other
than you are doing it on purpose. You're doing it
on purpose to make that click, sweet sweet clickbait money. Right.

(03:56):
These people piss me off. And you know people will say, oh, well,
you're just jealous because he gets so many views. I
don't lie to people. I don't pretend that alien stories
are real for money. I'm not a scumbag like Jesse
Michaels and Vetnin and all these other people. People like
Jimmy Church and Christina Gomez, they can't wait to rush

(04:18):
to sell this garbage. Remember when they did the press conference,
they all these these bottom feeding scumbag garbage peddlers. They
couldn't wait to get their little piece of the Scampie
and my friends. All you really need to know when
it comes to these Nasca alien mummies, all that you

(04:40):
really need to know is that the originator of these
hoaxes is Haimimussan, and Jimi Mussan is another one of
those people that like you have to know, if it
comes from Heimi Moussan, it's fake. Jesse Michaels quickly getting
into that category. If a story comes to you from

(05:03):
Jesse Michaels, it's a fake story, because that's all Jesse
Michaels does is self. The American alchemy more like American asshole.
Jesse Michaels is an American asshole, disinformation, garbage, patterly jerk
off scumbag. There. I said it, all right, We're gonna
try something new tonight. We're gonna put the live comments
right on the screen. This is a new feature. Nobody

(05:25):
told me. I happen to be watching other show hosts
that I know use the same software as me, and
I saw that. I know before we could pop out
the chat from YouTube and just do a share screen.
But this is a new feature and we want to
make sure that we welcome in the live chat, especially
you kind and generous benefactors. Please remember that two seekers

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is largely because we can't generate millions of views with
fake shit to get ad revenue out the wazoo, So
most of our income is from the viewers who support
our are actually telling them the truth. The Starlight Warriors
here with one for the goal six nine. Yes, thank

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you for your kindness, generosity and support. Happy you're covering
this garbage. Good to see you, my mame. Good to
see you, the Starlight Warrior. So let's get some subs
and let's hit a goal tonight. We haven't hit any
goals in a long time. Maybe I'm being a little
too ambitious, but when I see that dark Side Phil
makes three hundred dollars to fucking play Nintendo Bandley, I

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feel like I should get one point fifty, right, guess not.
The universe decides what you're worth sometimes and I'm okay
with that. But please do give, big, give often. We'll
be monitoring the Kick live chat for any Kick subscribers
will be monitoring. Oh and by the way, I want
to apologize because during our Internet in Sanity Circus broadcast,

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remember I'm new to kick. So there is a problem,
which is we called out the We called out the subs,
but we did not call out the kicks. So I
want to just apologize to those people and do that.

(07:17):
Thank you for the kicks, I apologize for not calling
them out. What is going on here? Yeah, so Tampon
Blood Magics and a rage Quit shout out to the
Wilcox theme song, Let's go. Thank you for the rage
Quit Tampon Blood Magic five hundred kicks. Yes, thank you

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for the kindness, generosity and support, and thanks to all
of you who showed up to see the Internet and
Saturday Circus debut episode last Saturday. This Saturday we have
episode two and I promise it's going to be better.
We did have a little bit of technical issue. These
things drive me crazy. The videos that I was commenting
on doing commentary over We're blasted all the way up

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to the highest level. And my microphone was breaking up
during it. And so but listen, if the worst thing
that happens is a technical issue and a mic you know, overloading,
I'll still consider a success. And here we have a
JG Factor Finder says, haven't seen true steekers in a

(08:23):
wild love Steven's take on scum bag Himie Yes, Jimi Mussan,
when do we get to deal? Reveal as soon as
I can make the video. I just have to make
a video. It's going to be an anti climatic ending.
It's not going to be a big deal. himI is sewage,
says Skyprop.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
That is correct.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
So look at that. We've got humbold honey, who has
been a member for four months. How do you have
a channel? I'm not sure what you mean by that.
Where is the goal? Isn't there a goal? I thought
I set a goal. Let me check back in one second.

(09:05):
One moment here, Yeah, it didn't go. I don't know why.
Let me fix that. I apologize. It's not letting me
start a goal. One second. Friends, let me see if

(09:27):
I can fix this. Fix this all right? The goal
is for twenty super chats of five or more. I'll
just have to keep track of the old fashioned way.
I'm waiting for the goal to be set, says toll. Well,
for for some reason, it is not letting me do that.
One second. Here we've got three the Starlight Warrior with

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another one says noticed. One second a Starlight Warrior. If
you're in the Call of the Gold, but it hasn't
been set yet. I don't know YouTube trying to let
any second goal. Notice, Gomez got herself some new shirts
to enhance the viewer experience, two big old fun bags
to excite the UAP nerds. Did she get a boot job?
She's a piece of shit. That girl her parents should

(10:17):
be ashamed of her, you know, like people could say
whatever they want about me, but I am a good father,
and that girl's parents need to sit down and have
a talk with her, like, maybe you shouldn't be selling
people fake shit, you more, ron, daughter of ours. She's
a piece of shit. She's always been a piece of shit.
People say that she got where she is today. She

(10:45):
got where she is today horizontally, if you know where
what I mean? Right? Yeah, it's not letting me set
a super CHECKO. I'm going to try to hit refresh
if I d rez for a moment, just bear with me,
just refreshing the YouTube screen. I'll try it again. Nope,

(11:10):
still not letting me start a goal. I hope that
doesn't mean problems for our channel. Oh, by the way,
I actually have some good news, So we want to
take a moment to recognize some good news in the
Corey Good ridiculous false accusations and false claims. Corey Good
has lost has lost his retarded attempt to destroy our

(11:35):
YouTube channel for those are awhere, Corey Good claimed that
I stole deposition videos and that let me see if
I turn off that show comments on stage, if it
will let me. So Corey Good claimed that I stole
these deposition videos. He claimed that, yeah, it will not

(11:57):
let me start a goal. They have weird problems with
So listen, we're at three, right, we're at three goals,
well two, we're at two, so we need eighteen more.
I'll just keep track of this, you know, manually, And
thank you the Starlight Warrior for your kindness, generosity and support. Yeah,

(12:19):
Gomez got ourselves some new fun bags. Jimmy Church must
be really excited about that. But thank you the Starlight Warrior. So,
Corey Good fraudulently and falsely filed fake copyright strikes against
my channel. And by the way, he would have filed
three and destroyed my YouTube channel. They would have knewd
it had I not realized what he was doing. And

(12:42):
then at the two strike mark, I privated everything that
mentioned Corey Good and the last deposition video. He filed
one copyright strike on four of the deposition videos and
another copyright strike on one of the deposition videos. There
were six in total. I deleted that from my channel
because I thought maybe he could still file a strike

(13:03):
even if it's privated. I don't know, but we privated
all the videos so he couldn't. He couldn't destroy our
YouTube channel with these false claims. Corey Good claimed I
stole the deposition videos, that they were his copyrighted material,
and that I have been reported to the police, and
that I've stolen other videos. This is completely and totally

(13:24):
factually incorrect because Corey Good is a scumbag and a liar,
and Corey Good lies about everything like going on you know,
going on space adventures. After all, he's broke rogers, you know,
going on time traveling space adventures to the Moon and Mars.
He's a liar. That's what Corey Good does, so I'm
not surprised he would lie. I am surprised that he's

(13:46):
this stupid, because apparently Corey Good is such an idiot moron.
Some say he's retarded. I think he might be. Some
say that he's such a more though he doesn't. Did
he not know that if you file fake, false claims

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on a strike against another YouTuber, if they appeal and win,
and by the way, we have appealed and win, and
one one of the strikes and the other one we're
gonna win too, does he not know that? The strike
then goes on his YouTube channel. And let's be clear,
Corey Good has not only copyright striked my channel, He's

(14:28):
copyright striked seven or eight near as I can tell,
and I'm in communication with some of those people. So
he filed at least seven or eight completely and totally fake,
fraudulent copyright strikes. Do you know what that's called, Corey Good,
you moron, you super genius of the millennium idiot, You
know what that's called. That's called abusing the copyright takedown system.

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And what will happen is for every time Corey Good
files a fake and fraudulent strike against another YouTube, if
they appeal and win, the strike will then go on
Corey Good's channel. So enjoy that channel, Corey Good, you loser,
you bum, you broke, bankrupt loser. Enjoy that strike. You

(15:17):
deserve it. And by the way, I have never in
my entire life advocated for or even said that someone
should lose their YouTube channel. I'm a free speech absolutist.
But in this specific.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Case, Corey Good is clearly knowingly making false statements in
legal filings to YouTube, and he's so stupid he doesn't
know that I'm gonna get those false claims and.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I'm gonna share those with the world. Like share with
the world that he's saying that I'm reported to the police,
Share with the world that he's claiming I stole the
deposition videos, share with the world that he's claiming I
stole other videos. And by the way, he's also claiming
in these legal filings with YouTube that I'm somehow harras
by exposing his scams. Well, I'm sorry if you consider

(16:06):
somebody exposing your scam as some form of harassment. But
for real, mister Corey Good, some people may consider making
false claims in legal filings and claiming somebody is being
investigated by police. Some people may consider that harassment. Corey Good,
he always accuses people of that which he does. So

(16:29):
here from YouTube. A big win for me as a
show host, a big win for me as a responsible,
ethical journalist, and a big L for Corey Good, dear
truth seekers. In accordance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act,
we've completed processing your counter notification. The following videos have

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been restored unless you have deleted them. And actually it
was four videos. I got four notices. I don't want
to bore you with all of them. Four of the
positions are now back on my YouTube channel and two
more will be restored. Well, one more will be restored.
I got to put one of them back that I
had a delete to stop him from destroying my YouTube
channel because he's a bitter, angry, jealous little man and

(17:12):
a broke loser. Right, he's so butt heert oh, Steve Gibeon.
He published those deposition videos where I said I've never
been to space, even though I spent years of my
life taking money from people for my fake secret space stories.
So this is for you, Corey Good. Take this big L,
Corey Good, This big L is for you, man. This

(17:36):
is a big L, and it's for you. Kales of
de Sonic Voyage with one for the goal. I put
out a song about this NASA Nasca crap last year.
Nasca Lies on my Conspiracies album. The craziest threatned multiple lawsuits. Yeah,
and that's another thing. I am tired of retarded idiot
morons on Twitter telling me things like, so what if

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the came from Heimi Mussan, it doesn't mean that they're fake.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
Well, it might be a pretty good indication that they're fake.
And it might be a pretty good clue that they're
fake because Heimi Mussan has a history of a long,
decades long history of notable hoaxes.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
And in fact, I'm going to talk about his chronicle
of notable hoaxes. So we'll get rid of the Corey Good.
That's a big L for you, Corey Good. Enjoy the
strike on your YouTube channel. And by the way, I said,
I have never advocated for or said that somebody deserves
to lose their YouTube channel. In this case, I am

(18:38):
having my own lawyer draft a letter to YouTube demanding
that they delete his YouTube channel for abuse of the
Digital Millennium Copyright Act and for knowingly and willingly and
deliberately making false statements in legal filings. That's perjury, by
the way, and it's an abuse of the legal take system.

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So enjoy the big L. And by the way, there's
more big l's for Corey Good. But we're gonna detail
them in a show later this week. So let's get
to Haimi Mussanjimi Mussan's history is riddled with debunked spectacles,
each more audacious than the last, spanning from crude fabrications

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to international scandals. There is, of course, the Metapunk, the
Metapeck creature, and early fabrications. One of Haimi Mussan's initial
high profile deceptions involved the Metapek creature, Presented as an
extraterrestrial entity captured in Mexico. This grotesque figure, touted through

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his media channels, was swiftly exposed as a skinned marmoset monkey.
Somebody took a marmoset monkey. I don't know if they
killed it or they got a dead one, and then
they shaved this monkey. Its appearance was altered to mimic
alien features. Such early hoaxes of Haimi Mussan demonstrate Mussan's

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willingness to manipulate animal remains for shock value and personal profit,
a tactic that foreshadowed later desecrations of actual human bodies,
human baby bodies, and more. These incidents, while less document
underscore a pattern of deceit extending over thirty years, as

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noted by online communities and skeptics who decry his phony cases.
And then, of course there was in twenty fifteen he
ran a scam which defrauded the public out of tens
of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars. In
twenty fifteen, Haimi Mussan orchestrated the be Witness event in

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Mexico City, unveiling what he claimed for months and months
and months was a mummified alien child discovered in Peru. Well,
he was going to be showing slides from that. The
spectacle drew crowds and media hype, but forensic analysis revealed
it to be the remains of a pure blown toddler,

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repatriated to indigenous communities after the hoax was exposed. So
it was a mummy. It was a picture of a
mummy in a museum, and Haimi Moustan ran a pay
per view event and a lot of people paid a

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lot of money to see the slides. They were fake,
completely and totally fake. So what the photographs were were
a mummified two year old boy displayed in a museum,
prompting public apologies from some collaborators, like notable Roswell researchers

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Don Schmidt and Jim Carry. These hoaxes highlight Mussan's ethical
bankruptcy profiting from the exploitation of dead babies and dead
baby remains while ignoring cultural sensitivities. And then, of course,
there was twenty sixteen the Demon Fairy hoax Undeterred Honey.

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Mussan in twenty sixteen announced the discovery of the body
of a demon fairy, a supposed supernatural being, which sold
for ten thousand dollars. Examination revealed it to be a
grotesque amalgam of back carcasses, wooden sticks, epoxy and miscellaneous debris,
a blatant fabrication designed for viral appeal. The incident exemplifies

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his shift towards commodifying hoaxes, turning pseudoscientific curiosities into lucrative artifacts.
And then of course to me one moment, and then,
of course, what I believe to be his most famous hoax,

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these Nasca mummies and the Alien Project. Massan's most infamous
deceit began in late twenty sixteen with the so called
discovery of mummified bodies near Peru's Nascal lines. He collaborated
with pseudo scientists Theory Jamin, a discredited fake archaeologist with
no form of credentials, and a YouTuber Luis Kespy, who

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had previously demonstrated mummy fabrication techniques. Mussan crowdfunded the alien project,
raising forty two thousand dollars from over one thousand donors
under promises of rigorous analysis. The campaign brazenly assured backers,
if it is an imposture or a fake, we will

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be the first to denounce it, yet proceeded to present
the figures featuring in lawng gated skulls, three fingered hands,
and hose like necks as one thousand year old aliens.
Scientific debunking was swift and thorough. Analysis by institutions like
the World Congress on Mummy Studies and Peru's client ficos

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P revealed the bodies as manipulated pre Colombian human mummies
combined with animal bones, that is, deteriorated lama skulls, plaster,
and synthetic materials. A twenty twenty one study in the
International Journal of Biology and Biomedicine confirmed llama skulls and

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parts were part of these mummies. While DNA tests showed
human origins if the DNA was taken from the human bones,
Peruvian prosecutors in twenty seventeen deemed them recently manufactured dolls
coded in paper and glue, violating heritage laws and prompt

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and criminal complaints. Despite this, Massan produced the guy dot
com documentary Unearthing Nasca, featuring quack fake experts like a
Russian inventor of an aura photographing camera, further entrenching the fraud.
And then, of course, in twenty twenty three, Hami Mussan
famously pulled these things out in front of the Mexican Congress.

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They have been completely debunked so many times. This is
a recycled hoax that just won't die, and of course
there's a profit motive with these networks of pseudoscience. Jimi
Mussan's legacy of one is one of unrelenting deceit, spanning
decades of hoaxes that have desecrated artifacts, misled millions, and

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undermined scientific discourse. From skinned monkeys to manipulated mummies made
out of dead babies and lama skulls, His profit driven
fabrications reflect a profound ethical void, prioritizing spectacle over substance.
As global challenges like climate change demand rational inquiry, Mussan's

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hoaxery serves as a cautionary tale. Pseudoscience thrives in the
shadows of ignorance, but rigorous scrutiny exposes its hollow core.
Institutions must bar such frausters from credible platforms lest they
perpetuate a cycle of misinformation that erodes scientific and societal progress.

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So this is how you know these are fake is
that they came from HEIMI Mussan, right, and let's just
catch up with the Wow, a lot of support there.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
What I'm reading.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Thank you, Tim Curly. Jesse Michaels has worked for Peter
Field for seven years and is not to be trusted. Yeah,
he's a scumbag. In other words, he might be working
for the Antichrist, Tim Curly, But.

Speaker 7 (26:57):
Thank you for your kindness.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Peterfield might be the anti Christ. Thank you for your kindness,
generosity and support. Uh do you know if Corey was
a serial sue person suing people, says humbold honey, thank.

Speaker 7 (27:09):
You for kindness, generosity, and support. I would say so
because he has he sued, He's suing everybody. He's threatened
to sue me multiple times.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
But thank you, humbold honey, Charlie troll troll shouting on
hey hey, goodbye Corey, Yeah, goodbye.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
To their YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Bits. All it's gonna take is one more person besides
me to win their appeals and these things go bye
bye bye. Right his YouTube channel is going bye bye.
So uh, we are gonna we are gonna cite fair you.
So I'm gonna be sharing this video tonight, done by

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a YouTube channel called Incredible History, and I'm very happy
that they were able to see this is this guy
did good work because he thought, well, these are weird,
they might be real. To his credit, this guy actually
went there. He went to Peru to figure out if
these were real or not. Then he talked to real experts,

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experts in biology that could look at the scans and
look at these things and determine are these really a
new species? Are these alien? Or are these just a
clever fabrication or a hoax? So to his credit, he
did that. Check out Incredible History YouTube channel. I'm a
big fan of history and I never knew about this channel,
but it's a great channel. Fair use for tonight. This

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is a transformative work. We're educating the public and critiquing
the videos that we are sharing. I will I have
it yet, but I will put a link to the
video in the description of our video after broadcast tonight.
So what we're gonna do is share their video because
I think it's one of the best takedowns that I've
seen of this thing. And I'm really kind of like

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shocked that they only got a few thousand views.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
But he got.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
He he only got a few thousand views on YouTube,
fifty five thousand on on X, So good for that.
Let's get into it, friends, and I will take a
moment to check in with the kick live chat as
one moment here. Someday I'm going to figure out how
to do this the right way. Okay, we got Tampon

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Blood Magic sent five hundred kicks. Thank you for that,
Tampon Blood Magic for your kindness, generosity, and support, and
I will continue to check in with that. So exposing
a mask of mummies hoax. And by the way, I
just want to point out that many skeptics, skeptoid Mick West,
Charlie Wiser, Me and many other skeptical content creators have

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completely ripped these things to shreds. But it's like the
hoax that just will never die. It just won't die.
It won't go away and die. And I don't know why,
but I'm happy for this because when these idiot morons,
you know, I get nasty messages from people on Twitter,
you know they'll send me a nasty DM. Like, just

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because it came from Heimi Mussan doesn't mean it's fake, Stephen.
This doctor sent the DNAs from unknown origin. Yeah, the doctor,
the fake doctor that works for Jimi Mussan said that
the DNA is unknown. You can't trust anybody working for
the people generating the oaks to be like honest and

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give you real science. What you need is independent experts,
and this gentleman from Incredible History did just that. Let's
get into it.

Speaker 8 (30:40):
Friends, exposing the Nasca Mummy's hoax. In this video, you
will watch presentations from a PhD in bioanthropology, a PhD
in anthropology, and a radiographer, all of which believe they
found evidence that shows that Maria and Monsarrat have had
manipulation on their hands, in their feet. This is significant

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because Maria is the flagship mummy.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (31:03):
First one to be presented to the public. If Maria
is proven to be a hoax, then the entire thing.
I started investigating the NASCAR mummies about two years ago.
I went down to Peru with an iPhone and a drone,
started interviewing proponents and what they told me.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
And good for him he actually went there in person,
boots on the ground to investigate it. I just want
to mention though, that another argument from the retarks that
promote this thing is that, well, just because one of
them is fake, Steven, doesn't mean all of them are fake.
They're all coming from the same source. So if the
main one, the most the first one is fake, you

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have to really scrutinize the rest of them, don't you
don't you have to scrutinize all of them once. Once
you learn, oh this is fake, you should be you
should be very you know, skeptical of the same people
promoting more alien right. And that's the stupidest argument I've

(32:03):
heard on Twitter. Well, Stephen, I saw your video about Maria,
and yeah, that one used Illama skull and somebody rearranged
the bones, but this other one's real. No, No, they're
all coming from the same source. You fucking moron. I'm
so sick of this one. I'm angry at this hoax.

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I'm tired of listening to morons, you know, because these
people they love to send me nasty DMS or say
something nasty to me on Twitter. Like you didn't prove
one hundred percent that it's faked, Steven, it still might
be real. Well, then you're an idiot. You're a moron.

Speaker 8 (32:41):
Blew my mind. Up until now, I'd never publicly given
an opinion on whether or not they were a new species.
I just told the timeline of events. I told the story,
and in full transparency. At one point in time, I
truly was wondering if these things were a new species.
But that all changed when I saw this hair.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Here's the grave robbing hoaxer that created these fakes. Remember,
I just want to say to Jesse Michael's the scumbag,
and to Jimmy Church and vet It and everybody that
made money on this despicable, disgusting hoax, can you tell
me where your grandparents are buried so that I can
go get a fucking shovel and dig up your dead grandparents,

(33:23):
and then I'm gonna rip apart their bodies their dead bodies.
And you know, I'll use a leg bone for an
arm bone, and I'll rearrange the bones. I'll slap some
pit plaster all over your dead grandmom or grandpap's dead
body and make it look like an alien. All of
these people who promote it and profit it from this

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ridiculous hoax are saying that it's perfectly okay to desecrate
human bodies, including dead babies. They're saying it's perfectly okay
to rip dead babies apart and glue them back together
look like an alien as long as I make money.
So I just want to say to Jesse Michaels, I

(34:05):
demand to know where Jesse Michael's grandparents are buried, because
I'm gonna dig them both up and I'm gonna make
two aliens out of Jesse Michael's dead grandparents' bodies or
great grandparents. I don't know if his grandparents are dead.
I want to make some money off of ripping apart
dead bodies and clickbaiting a fake alien mummy. So Jesse Michaels,

(34:29):
let me know where they're buried. And of course I'm kidding,
I'm not actually gonna do that. I won't suggest anybody
do that, but it proves a point. Why are these
profiteering scumbags like Jesse Michaels and Jimmy Church and Venna
and Christina Gomez so willing to make money off of
what is basically a grave robber who's ripping apart dead

(34:52):
babies and gluing them back together to make a buck.
They should all be ashamed of themselves. It's absolutely discussed
and despicable and deplorable that anyone would profit from a
dead baby being dug up, ripped apart, and repurposed as
an alien. But look at this latest most ridiculous hoax.

(35:13):
This is supposed to be a real head Come on, man.
And by the way, the person who discovered so called
discovered these mummies has a history of literal criminal fraud
in his background. Maybe that should be a clue that these.

Speaker 8 (35:28):
Are fake photo on the screen right here. I was
willing to dismiss the airport dolls that was made by
someone else. They were clearly made from animal bones.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, and so when somebody sees a hoax making money,
a bunch of other hoaxes rush in to copy it
and make money too.

Speaker 8 (35:43):
But this is a photo of the man who originally
supposedly discovered Maria posing with a fake giant head.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, and here in twenty twenty two, he was charged
with grave robbing and fine fight.

Speaker 8 (35:56):
He also supposedly discovered this one. Both of these are
clearly fake, and the large one has even been scanned.
The proponents admit that it's fake. I was able to
get the guy who released this photo to tell me
that this was shown to him by the Waco, the
grave robber that originally supposedly discovered Maria. He also told
me that it's since been sold into a private collection.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
And that's another issue. When you bring up the supporters
of this nonsense that the person that discovered this has
a history of grave robbing and fraud, criminal fraud in
his background, they don't think that's relevant. Well, that doesn't
mean that the alien mummies are fake, Stephen, Well, it
might be a clue that they might be fake, you moron.

Speaker 8 (36:37):
And this man refuses to show anyone where he's finding
all of this, And people will say, but will just
because of WACO is capitalizing on this own gray doesn't
mean that the rest of them are fake. Yeah, these
ones are fake, But Maria and Monsrat are real. Well,
today I'm going to tell you exactly why I think
Maria and Monserrat are also fake and forget about me.
More importantly, I'm going to tell you why experts and

(36:59):
professionals in the fields believe andriology A lay out the
evidence very clearly. See what they occasionally jump in you
to try to bring down the technical terms to a
level where we can all understand them. Doctor Daniel.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
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(37:34):
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Charles McDonald. God bless you and thank you for your support.
All right, let's continue here. So we're going to get
into the experts just ripping these fake bullshit, fake mummies
to stray.

Speaker 8 (37:54):
Runtor has a PhD in bioanthropology. Specifically, his area of
focus is the hands and the feet. He has published
papers on the evolution of the hands in the feet,
including and focusing on the evolution of the ability to grasp.
I'm not sure there's a better expert to talk to
than doctor Proctor. Doctor Proctor, as well as others in
this video that you'll hear from, they're also not UFO skeptics.

(38:18):
The whole reason he found out about this is because
he's a believer and he spends his free time investigating
some of these phenomenons. In other words, this guy is
not a hater. He's telling you what he's seeing.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, and he's an independent scientist that's not directly connected
to the hoaxers. So when you hear these claims like
unknown DNA or this expert says that these are real
and not fakes. Those are people that work for Haimi Mussan.
You can't trust those people. You have to go to
somebody who is scientifically literate in a field that is

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relevant to determining whether these are fake or not, and
also is independent, not working with the hoaxers.

Speaker 8 (39:00):
You're watching this on YouTube. I have time stamps and
chapters clearly labeled as to what you're going to watch
in that section, and I'll have the same thing with
X in the comments. So without good for him, he went.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
And got experts to look at these things and make
a call. Why couldn't Jesse Michaels there any other profiteering
scumbags do that. Jesse Michael's got plenty of money. He
could have hired an expert to look at them and
make a decision whether they were fake or real. He didn't.
He just rushed right to get the alien clickbait money there.

Speaker 8 (39:29):
Ado. This is why Maria and monster rat are not
a new species but butchered human beings.

Speaker 9 (39:35):
Okay, so this is an image of Maria's left hand.
You're looking at it from the side of the thumb
toward the top of the hand, as would be the
back of the hand.

Speaker 10 (39:48):
Now this is showing you signs of amputation. I have
an error. They are pointing to the station.

Speaker 9 (39:54):
Diffusium is a bone that has a joint surface that
allows abduction of the thumb.

Speaker 10 (40:00):
So that's what allows you to grasp.

Speaker 9 (40:02):
And if you look at that hand image in the
upper right corner, that has an intact thumb, and you
can kind of see the approximate place. The approximate position
of that hand is similar to Maria is represented, and
you can see that I have a trapezium image below
the hand, and that just represents the overall joint shape

(40:23):
of that the thumb would be articulating with. It's a
complex shape, it allows a wide degree of motion, and
it's very.

Speaker 10 (40:31):
Clearly still present.

Speaker 9 (40:33):
So if this were a hand that naturally only had
three digits, we wouldn't expect to see joint surfaces with
without a some kind of a mate to go with it, right,
You wouldn't expect bones that serve no purpose in a
natural hand.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
All right.

Speaker 9 (40:47):
So here is Maria's right hand, and again we're looking
at the back of the hand, and notice that she
has the three digits. One of the things that is
that I noticed when I was looking at the bones
that there's an inappropriate bone placed in that central digit
where I have the arrow pointing, and that is the
first metacarpal that actually goes with the joint. I just

(41:10):
highlighted here it looks like and I.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Just want to mention that we correctly reported that they
basically just ripped apart a hand and glued things together
to make it look like an alien hand or something.
But it's nice to see another verifiable expert that looked
at these and said, yeah, these are just bones in
the wrong place that are glued.

Speaker 9 (41:34):
In and made an effort to lengthen the fingers to
make them longer than what you would expect in a human.
And one of the ways they did that is by
placing that bone in there and I have on the right,
so basically.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
They put an extra fingerbone in to make these long,
spindly alien hand appearing things.

Speaker 9 (41:53):
Yeah, Maria's first metacarpal, which is out of place along
with examples of a human metacarpal. One of the things
that you can see if you look at the bottom
part of the bone that's called the proximal part, it's
got kind of a V shape to it, and that's
very distinctive for the first metacarpol. You don't you don't
see that same shape in any of the metacarpals or

(42:14):
any of the flangies of the hand that goes along
with the matching joint for that trapezium that's illustrated right below.
It's not it's not a simple hinge joint like you
would normally expect to see in the fingers. A hinge
joint kind of resembles like a small ball and socket
kind of joint in.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
A way, so it's interesting they basically just added an
extra bone to make the hands appear longer.

Speaker 9 (42:42):
It doesn't have as much of a degree of motion,
so we wouldn't expect to see that V shape. We
would expect to see maybe maybe sort of a C
cupped type of shape there for a flange.

Speaker 8 (42:55):
One question, am I understanding this as somebody who is
not I don't know the correct terminology Maria's thumb? You
believe the thumbbone has been removed and put where this
blue line is in the middle. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 9 (43:13):
It's either her metacarpal or another specimens medical and you'd
have to do a DNA test to see if it
actually belongs to this person. But that's definitely a metacarpal
that would be appropriate for this trapezium joint, but not
appropriate as a hinge joint in the finger where it's
located right now, So.

Speaker 8 (43:33):
Let me explain that very clearly.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Okay, one moment here, we'll take a moment to thank
Bobcat returns to China, general asson and sport going for
the goal. May this man hear the cries of babies
and feel the curses of the ancestors for the rest
of his days. This is a special kind of evil.
I agree with you, like this is one of the

(43:55):
most shocking alien hoaxes I've ever seen. Could you imagine
get shovel going and digging up dead bodies, ripping their
bones apart, and gluing them back together to look like
an alien so that you can make some money that
cat returns. You are correct in that this is despicable.
This is disgusting, and anybody profiting from this shit is

(44:17):
saying that it's perfectly okay to rip apart dead babies
and glue them back together and look like aliens as
long as we make some money. I'm talking about you,
Jesse Michaels, Vetted, Christina Gomez, Jimmy Church and all the
rest of you scumbags that rush to go make some
money off of this fake shit. What if that was
your ancestor that somebody dug up from the ground and

(44:38):
ripped apart and desecrated their body. It's absolutely despicable, absolutely
despicable in my opinion.

Speaker 8 (44:46):
In a real human body, bones only have joint surfaces
where another bone is meant to attach. Those joint surfaces
don't exist just in case. The only form if something
is supposed to connect there, Proctor pointed out, is this.
On the hands, the bones still have the joint surface
where a metacarpal or a part of the thumb should attach.

(45:09):
The joint surface is still there, but the bone that
should be attached is missing. In the case of Maria's
metacarpal in the thumb area, he believes they have removed
it and very likely placed it in the central digit
as the second falangi. But it's actually the metacarpal one
basically part of the thumb is randomly placed in the
center of the hand, and I guess it could be

(45:31):
another specimen's metacarpal. Like he said, you would need DNA
to test that out. But a bioanthropologist who specializes in
the hands and the feet has published papers on the
evolution of the hands and the feet and their abilities
to grasp, has said, no, that's for sure. The metacarpal
one in the middle of that finger right there.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Once again, so it's perfectly out of place.

Speaker 8 (45:55):
And its will say, but will, these are genetic hybrids,
that's why the joint surface is still there. Okay, well,
what about the metacarpal one or the metacarpal where the
thumb is supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, I love that the support Some of the supporters
of this crap are so rabid. They refuse to if
you've got a person that's a total expert and the
evolution of the hands and the feet looking at it
and saying, no, these are bones that are glued together
in the wrong places. This isn't right, This isn't a
real biological creature. That should be enough, But it's not

(46:26):
because people are stupid.

Speaker 8 (46:28):
B Why is that in the central digit on the
second FALANGI? Why would these ancient geneticists place the metacarpal
one from the thumb in an area where it simply
doesn't fit and has no use? And he also sees
more evidence of this on the foot. And he's not
the only one. There's a radiographer named Michelle with twenty

(46:49):
years of experience that actually was approached by the Nascamami's
community to take a look. Once she published her findings online,
showing clear evidence of manipulation. They immediately turned on her
in the video she was posting received multiple copyright claims.
By the way, all of this fall is under fair
use by the You're reviewing something pretty importantly here. I'm

(47:10):
sure this video will get flagged as well, So in
this next clip you're gonna see.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I love it when hoaxers will use fake legal maneuvering
to try to stop you from exposing their scam. Like,
that's my copyrighted picture of the scam. You can't use
it to prove I scammed anybody.

Speaker 8 (47:24):
Both Michelle the radiographer and doctor Proctor the bioanthropologist, pointing
out what they see from two different vantage points, and
they believe it shows clear evidence of amputation on the foot.

Speaker 10 (47:37):
Now I'm moving to Maria's foot.

Speaker 9 (47:40):
These images are a little bit hard to come by, but.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
The fact that you have to have like you have
to have like real scientists look at these to tell
people they're fake is kind of sad and it says
a lot about our current world.

Speaker 9 (47:51):
I found a X ray of the bottom of Maria's
foot that's called the plantar view or plant.

Speaker 10 (47:57):
Far That's why incriminating that I wanted to hghlight here
is that.

Speaker 9 (48:02):
So I've gotten in blue highlighted numbers of where each
and here we're talking about meta tarsals in the midfoot
instead of metacarpals. Each of those lines represents the joint
surface of a meta tarsal, and I have them numbered
one through five, So number one would go with your
big toe or the first meta tarsal, and five would

(48:22):
be like where your pinky toes.

Speaker 10 (48:26):
What we have remaining are three meta.

Speaker 9 (48:28):
Tarsals, and I think a couple of things is that
there's a huge gap between the joint surfaces.

Speaker 10 (48:36):
This isn't normal.

Speaker 9 (48:37):
If you look at the example I have on the
right of an X ray of a more normal foot,
the gaps are very small. There's a joint of synovial
capsule that you would find in there that provides lubrication
and padding, but it doesn't take up this kind of space.
These bones are disconnected. The other thing is it shows

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amputation because there are two digits missing and so the
big toe and the fifth for the pinky toe or
gone too much, so that would be amputation. And then
also notice that there's not good alignment. They like if
you look at this central one, it's kind of sitting
in between where the second and third metatarsals would go.

Speaker 8 (49:17):
So sharing with Maria's foot, tell us quickly, like if
you could just summarize it in thirty seconds, what is
wrong with Maria's foot?

Speaker 11 (49:28):
Maria's joints don't make any sense. They don't the metatarsals
do not articulate with any really definitive articular surfaces. They
all seem to be in the match or transposed like
doctor Foxer talked about, and the amputation of the planner
fascia and the muscles and the soul of the foot
where the dead giveaway.

Speaker 8 (49:50):
So, Michelle, I often see in these images where we're
showing the possible amputation is the way they'll be portrayed
is you don't see the cut. You don't see any
division between those toes, and you know, I guess the
articular surfaces is that correct?

Speaker 10 (50:09):
Terminology?

Speaker 12 (50:10):
Correct?

Speaker 8 (50:11):
Would Why would that be? What's going on with this
image right here compared to what you're seeing with your
images that we're about to show.

Speaker 11 (50:21):
So they're using what we call three D rendering. There's
several different versions of that, but what appears to be
used most prominently in these specimens in particular is three
D surface rendering. So essentially what that does is it
shows you the anatomical structures as they appear at the
skin level, so you don't get an idea of any

(50:45):
of the bony anatomy really going on underneath. I like
to use the sheet under a piano analogy. You can
see the shape of the piano, but you can't see
the keys, you can't see the pedals, you can't see
the color of the piano. They are very attractive to
the eye. It's very cool to look at. When it
was an emerging technology, when I trained on it, you know,

(51:07):
people were fascinated by it. But there's a reason that
we don't just rely on those three D renderings to
diagnose and treat patients. We always marry it with our axials,
our sagitals, our coronals, our regular MPR, which shows all
of that bony differentiation, because there's a lot of the

(51:28):
story that's missed renderings.

Speaker 8 (51:32):
Can you tell me a little bit about the sagital sutures.
I'm saying that correctly with Maria, that you saw and
if anything looked uncommon or you know, I know you've
seen a lot of scans of sagital sutures in your
life probably.

Speaker 11 (51:47):
But there was a very classic zigzag appearance of that
sagital suture running down the center line it articulates with
the lambdorid suture in the back, and then looking today,
I could even see evidence of the coronal sutures, which
are kind of they sit above your ears a little
bit on each side.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
So they're like, look, we got three D MRIs and
these this is a real creature because it's got a
brain in its skull, and yeah, you ripped a part
of that body to make this.

Speaker 11 (52:16):
Those were very evident on the MPR of the axials
and the dicom data that I had, but not so
much on the three D rendering that was presented.

Speaker 8 (52:26):
I you know, I'm not a biologist, I'm not a doctor.
I'm a history teacher. But to me this was like
this made sense to my brain. On the left, we
have Maria. On the right, we have an image of
just a normal extra of a normal human, which I
also think Maria is a normal human. But the tibia
articulates to the talus the exact same way in Maria

(52:50):
that it does to a normal human. Both the tibia
to the normal human, like the talus. The the shape
of that talus right there, you can see it in
both images. If you were to have a bean that
evolved in a way that it had completely different foot

(53:12):
and toes three toes, forget about the problem of how
it walks, but somehow it evolves that way and it's
a completely different bean from a Homo sapien, would you
expect the rest of the foot to also look probably
pretty different. What do you have to say about that?

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Maybe maybe it would look different if it was.

Speaker 10 (53:33):
That question for me.

Speaker 8 (53:34):
Yeah, sorry, doctor Pretor and anyone that wants to take it, Well, yeah, I.

Speaker 9 (53:39):
Think I think you would expect all of the tarsels
to probably have a different architecture. If having three digits
was natural to the foot.

Speaker 10 (53:49):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 9 (53:49):
I'm not sure it would make sense to start out
with it with the bones of a human foot, you know,
and then you're trying and then you know, in the
examples that we have with Maria and Monster at that
out with a normal human foot and then modifying.

Speaker 10 (54:02):
It is basically just a matter of subtraction of elements.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Yeah, just cut off some of that.

Speaker 9 (54:07):
I think if you had a foot that was you know,
evolved that way. For having three digits, you'd probably see
totally different bones. You probably wouldn't see, you know, three
punea forms and a cuboid in the foot.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
You know, you want to take a moment to thank
a kind and generous benefactor who has heard the call
of a goal.

Speaker 13 (54:25):
That's Keno yuga with one for the goal, asking a
very important question, how come aliens have to mummify their dead?
I thought they had advanced crap like med beds or
whatever else they got. Well, good point, but don't let
something like logic get in the way of a good scam,
fake hoax story that you can make lots of money on.

(54:46):
And it's enough to say that millions of monetized YouTube
views have been generated and monetized X views millions of
monetized X views have been generated from this hoax.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
So a lot of people made a lot of money
on them. That's why there's such incredible pushback when people
show the scientific evidence that they're fake. They don't want
the gravy trade to dry up.

Speaker 9 (55:07):
You might see a talus that that was sort of
like that, but again, but that's because that joint is
a little bit more conservative I think than some of
the other joints you would have in the foot in
that case.

Speaker 10 (55:19):
Now, lastly, I.

Speaker 9 (55:20):
Just wanted to mention so there's been a lot of
claims that that basically these these mummies represent some kind
of natural syndactally state. I guess, although I guess if
it was natural, we wouldn't call it syndactyles. And sbactually
means that that you're missing some of.

Speaker 10 (55:37):
Your digits, some of the rays of the hand or feet.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yeah, in this case they were cut off.

Speaker 10 (55:42):
It's very it's very rare to have that. But what I.

Speaker 9 (55:45):
Wanted to show here was an example of a clinical
case where you're missing the first and second metacarpal and
the associated flangies and and actually in this case you're
also missing the alna, which we be one of the
one of.

Speaker 10 (56:01):
The bones of the lower arm.

Speaker 9 (56:03):
You you can see part of the radius and that the.

Speaker 8 (56:07):
Notice.

Speaker 9 (56:07):
So so when this does occur, it usually doesn't produce
just a normal hand that just just happens to be
missing a couple fingers, you know, Usually.

Speaker 10 (56:16):
There are there are other developmental consequences.

Speaker 9 (56:18):
And so in this case, it wasn't just the the
metacarpals that are missing that on also didn't develop right there,
So that that tells you that some of these bones
are connected developmentally. You can't just necessarily remove one thing
without having other consequences. And the other thing that I
wanted to point out here is you have an individual

(56:40):
missing those rays. But notice that there isn't a big
gap in the joint surfaces, so, you know, having fewer fingers,
it isn't just natural that you would have bigger gaps.

Speaker 10 (56:51):
What doesn't make any sense anyway.

Speaker 9 (56:52):
But but these would these would represent probably more functional joints.
They're not dislocated joints, you know, despite only having three
fingers or well three metacarpals I guess, but still only
two fingers in a way because two of the metacarpals
connect to one filangy in this case.

Speaker 8 (57:10):
Another big red flag is that these mummies, and I'm
not talking about the small ones here, the big mummies,
Monsterrat and Maria do not match each other at all.
If these were real creatures from the same species, just
like any other species under Earth, humans, dogs, cats, birds,
their bodies should be built network at least a similar way,
maybe not exactly but similar. Maria's hands are made one

(57:31):
way Monsterrat's a completely different way. Humans don't randomly have
completely different designs from one another.

Speaker 9 (57:38):
Okay, so Monserrat's hand is above and Maria's hand is below.

Speaker 10 (57:43):
Now, no, I think this kind of speculation. I don't
know if.

Speaker 9 (57:51):
If they just kept the the fingers sort of intact
and just removed the others. So this is a similar
configuration where you're seeing the thumb and the pinky. But
one of the things that is really important about this
is that you'll notice that Maria has four flanges and
Monsterrat only has three. So you know it's possible that

(58:15):
they kept the digits intact and so you maybe you
will see more tendonous attachments there, whereas Maria has been
more heavily modified. But the main point I want to
make here is that again, you shouldn't see different numbers
of flanges in hands of.

Speaker 10 (58:30):
A type of a species of being.

Speaker 8 (58:33):
Right, Why why.

Speaker 9 (58:34):
Should Maria have four falangies attached to metacarpoles the metacarpos
instead of only four and then three for Monsterrat In
one of the middle falangie positions for Maria, again there's
a first metacarpole, and you don't see that metacarpal type shape.
With Monsterrat you just see an ordinary flangy shape. Okay,

(58:55):
So moving on to Monsterret's foot. This is from a
surface scan that was available, and I went in and
just kind of removed some of the fuzziness so that
I could highlight the bones. And one of the things
help us again that you notice is that the joints
have a lot of spacing between them. These are not
joints that are in contact, so they're dislocated. Now the

(59:19):
main the main part here, the central area where the
canea farms are in the cuboy, those articulate with five
meta tarsals. Normally, the way these are lettered, A would
go with the big toe and E would go with
the little toe. And again, just like in Maria, those
are missing. But the joints are not lined up properly.

(59:42):
The shapes of the joints don't go with the matching
bone on the canea forms.

Speaker 10 (59:48):
Of the cuboy.

Speaker 11 (59:49):
That's exactly what I was seeing in CT. So none
of the articulations of the meadow tarsal junction really made
any sense. In some of the didn't even meet an
articular surface at all, So that jumped out to me immediately,
because then my first question goes to how would that

(01:00:10):
even be a functional That's where I thought I saw
the rasory section because people were talking about there's still
being tendons and stuff intact. And I would agree that
some of those metatarsals are, as doctor Procter pointed out,
in the correct position, but then some are just missing.

(01:00:31):
So if you wanted to elevate the illusion, one of
the ways you could do that would let me check.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Oh okay, I just have to turn video volume down.
No problem, I did it again. The Internet insanity curse
strikes again. All right, one second, friends, sorry.

Speaker 11 (01:01:11):
By performing a raisor resection function conserving, where if you've
had damage to your metacarpals or your metatarsals, they'll remove
that metacarpal or meta tarsal and kind of rearrange your
fingers or your toes and remaining metacarpals to keep your
limb functioning. So her feet Monserrat's feet were just a

(01:01:32):
little bit different where I think they might have been
more complex procedure like that versus Maria, where her feet
just looked more like arts and crafts.

Speaker 8 (01:01:44):
Unless I have to so I got better at it.

Speaker 11 (01:01:48):
Yeah, or they're using surgeons that you know have a
better grasp of the anatomy and are familiar with that procedure,
and and you know they know how to manipulate the
specimen to make it look the way they want.

Speaker 10 (01:02:03):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (01:02:04):
So let me just make a quick comment to say
that this improvement of the technique over time is classic
in a lot of archaeological frauds. So archaeological frauds are
often corrected in your time as scientific critics point out
their mistakes, then a new version of the same fraud
will miraculously appear just after the fake has been identified

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on the basis of X, Y or Z problem.

Speaker 8 (01:02:31):
They're often that NA tests have been done and told
you that these mummies are seventy percent human. Unknown, But
what does that unknown mean?

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Ye?

Speaker 8 (01:02:42):
Well, I asked that question to doctor Joseph Wilson. Doctor
Wilson earned his doctorate in anthropology from the University of Florida.
He's a current lecturer in archaeology at the University of Massachusetts,
short time lecture and anthropology at Fairfield University. Importantly, before academia,
he worked as a molecular genetic technologist at Greenwood Genetics

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Center in South Carolina. So, doctor Wilson, I'm sure you've
heard the claims that they're seventy percent human thirty percent unknown.
What do you think they're seeing? Can you explain to
everybody what that unknown might actually mean? Like, what's going
on there? What does unknown mean?

Speaker 14 (01:03:24):
Contamination? It would be extremely unlikely given that that I
believe that they're using commercial testing labs. They're not using dedicated,
really hot, state of the art high tech.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
No, there's Timi Mussan, the originator of all of this bakery,
fraudy and bullshittery cutting edge ancient DNA facilities.

Speaker 14 (01:03:44):
I think they're just packaging up samples and sending them
off to test, which means that they're doing their work
in the similar way to that I did at a
you know, I was worked at a reputable clinical diagnostic
wet lab in the early two thousands. For several years
I worked there, and that would have been a place
where we would have got all the time from david

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clinics all over the country. You know, somebody puts it
in a FedEx.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Run the magic that is correct.

Speaker 14 (01:04:11):
If you're doing ancient DNA that way, you will get
tons of contamination.

Speaker 8 (01:04:16):
There will there will.

Speaker 14 (01:04:18):
You know, there is no way to prevent large amounts
of contamination, so it would be frankly shocking if you
didn't have amount of again without knowing clearly what kindness.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
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will do that and we thank uh we thank you
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of this generosity and support.

Speaker 14 (01:05:07):
Up the parameters being transparent and none of what they
publish or present about this is coherent. It's it's sort
of like a black box for me, and I'm I'm
sorry forward that I'm working currently as an archaeologist, not
as a bioarchaeologist. I teach as a generalist on the
side some biological anthropology, but I am not up to

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the up to the minute in the terms of the
current science here. But I just know that this isn't
it right, I'm saying, you know, I know this is
this is wrong on a lot of levels. And you
would need somebody with more current expertise than myself to specific,
to be more specific than that.

Speaker 9 (01:05:44):
You know, when I asked about whether a lab would
be equipped to even find what they're looking for, what
you're talking about, they've got to have some kind of
a map of what they're trying to reconstruct, right, So
so if you don't, if you you wouldn't, you wouldn't
necessarily even if it was alien DNA of some structure,
you wouldn't probably even find it in a test like

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that because it's not designed to reconstruct in the first place.

Speaker 14 (01:06:09):
Right, You're absolutely right. It's like, just like in archaeology,
DNA works from the known to the unknown.

Speaker 8 (01:06:16):
So, uh, you know, one of the things that I
got hung up on, and I don't want to say
hung up on, but it blew my mind because some
of these guys are I don't know about Fernandez, one
gentleman that I talked to, so they kind of sometimes
in country common and he explained to me, and this

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was on one of the small ones that when he
dissected one of the small ones that he encountered what
he called as a As a dentist, you would know
what this term is. Uh, if any dentist or watching
out there, he encountered something called ossio integration, where the
metallic rod was infused in the chest, meaning there was

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cellular fusion that would have taken place before death. And
I will say, some of the images he showed me,
who has no idea what I'm looking at, we're kind
of interesting. So in the past I've yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
The hoaxers and the people supporting the hoaxers always find
a way to say, well, this one's weird, though, why
is there you know, why is there organic matter forming
around the metal post death or pre death?

Speaker 8 (01:07:30):
You know, I've mentioned that in some of my videos.
What you're saying here is none of that has been
peer reviewed.

Speaker 14 (01:07:37):
Yeah, I'm unaware of any real peer reviewed work on
this topic.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Yeah. In other words, it's just people making claims, many
of which work directly for the hoaxers promoting this shit.

Speaker 14 (01:07:48):
You can like, there may be stuff that comes out
in the future. There are there are also gray area journals,
so not everything is either predatory, predatory or reputable. There
are some publishers that kind of exist in the gray
area between the two categories, and it's certainly possible that
someone promoting authenticity could get a piece of supporting it

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through peer review. Because peer review is like anything else,
there are plenty of dubious articles that make it through
peer review. Doesn't mean it's true just because it gets
peer reviewed.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
But in this case, these.

Speaker 14 (01:08:19):
Are difficult subjects to get support from among like mainstream academia.
Not because we're you know, we hate aliens. I know
for a fact that people in this call are really
interested in the possibility of aliens. There isn't like an
overt hostility towards towards alternative views here. It's that the

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people who are specialists who know their business, just like
Michelle knows her X rays right. These people who know
what they're doing, they have high standards. They're not gonna
They're much harder to dupe, right, much harder to pull
the wool over their eyes in these cases.

Speaker 8 (01:08:59):
This is an interesting image here of the supposed fetus
inside of Mansarrat. That's right, Moncerat does have a fetus.
This has been selectively highlighted to show three fingers. This
has not been peer reviewed, and if you just look
at the image, good luck trying to find something that
shows just three fingers. I do believe this has been
selectively highlighted. But even if that fetus did have three fingers,

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it would not surprise me at all if they thought
of something like that. They found a pregnant mummy and
they go jackpot, get in there, manipulate the hands in
the feet of the fetus as well. How they do that,
I don't know, but you're about to find out. The
rat They were likely taxidermists involved in this entire thing, professionals.
But this image right here is selectively highlighted, not peer reviewed.

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Not many people are aware of the talk about a lot.
Even the opponents admit that little Wawita is a butchered mummy,
not an actual tridactyl. Jaweita is a small toddler mummy.
Hands and feet were cut and all horrors, fingers and
toes weren't discovered that way, were made that way. There's

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a reason they don't push this. Moment people hear about that,
it becomes questionable. And that's exactly what happened to Steve Marra.
Steve runs a very cool YouTube channel and has one
of the most detailed first hand investigations into the NASCAR
mummies being a hoax. What's important about this is Steve
didn't actually go down there to like me, he was initially.

(01:10:28):
His first documentary actually leaves you thinking something strange might
be going on, and it's time passed. He learned more
and he started to quickly realize that this was all
a hoax. On the ground, Steve got in contact with
a whistleblower who claimed that the Wacos were actively working
with taxidermist and at the time structing a large mill specimen.

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And according to Steve, why.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Do you need a taxidermist if it's a real creature.
You wouldn't need a taxidermist if it was a real
alien mummy or a real alien creature. Taxidermists illusions of
a specimen.

Speaker 8 (01:11:03):
Even as soon as he started getting skeptical, he received
death threats and kill people investigative journeys start to finish.
It has about two thousand views. I strongly encourage you
to go watch it. I have a linked in the description.
Here's a clip of specific about the taxis involved.

Speaker 15 (01:11:23):
There were two taxidermists involved. We found them and we
knew where they were. They were working on them. In fact,
they were working another Maria in fact there and they
were already almost ready to release another one. We find
out because we had guys on the ground working with
us and they've done some fantastic work for us. But

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we wanted to try and find out what.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Was for sale on the black market for a million dollars.
The small fake dog.

Speaker 15 (01:11:59):
Ones, which are maybe about twelve twenty four to thirty
six inches long. There were several of them in various
positions which had been messed with, and they were just
generally creations. They were never anything real. Even then, we're
like up from thirty to fifty thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Yeah, so this shows you how much money this is
why people are willing. They're selling one of the bigger
mummies for a million dollars, they're selling fake mummy dog
alien creatures for thirty to fifty thousand.

Speaker 15 (01:12:31):
You know, it was just crazy and it was about
all about money. The were Cairos were paying people to
go out there who were very poor, to go out
there and collect samples and dig these things up, and
managed to get older one of these guys and interviewed
him and he whistled blown exactly what was going on.
But these guys are dangerous. These were carros, and you

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know they've been involved in numerous including allegedly people have
gone missing or been shot and so on and so forth.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
You don't mess about with these guys.

Speaker 15 (01:13:03):
Like deaths myself.

Speaker 8 (01:13:07):
And if all that wasn't enough, it appears that Maria
might just expose herself before anyone else does it. She's
degrading at a rapid pace and neck area tape or god,
this is apparently new in April twenty twenty five, when
I went and saw Maria, that was not apparent. I
was talking with my friend Raoul from Pillars of the Past,
and he pointed out that maybe if you just wanted

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to play Devil's advocate here, it's some type of textile
that was fused to the skin over time. And maybe,
but even if that was the case, that would still
put a big hole in the original story, which was
that these mummies were right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
The cancer people say.

Speaker 8 (01:13:50):
It's because she's no longer covered in the dietamacious earth,
and she's degrading now that she's not in the habitat
that she was in before where she was discovered. Yeah,
or maybe it's because she.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Was nine more to go to hit the goal. Tonight, friends, let's.

Speaker 8 (01:14:04):
Go dying back in twenty sixteen with the Dietamacious Earth,
shortly before this picture was taken and after ten years
of being dug up degrading. Now this next part is depressing.
I sat down with Raoul from Pillars of the Past
to talk about the reality of gray robbing and the
massive black market dark.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Friends.

Speaker 8 (01:14:24):
He also recently was able to talk to the man
who supposedly made the original discovery of the mummies, and
he tells us some very interesting information. Raoul's YouTube channel
called Pillars of the Past has quickly turned into one
of my favorite channels on YouTube. He is boots on
the ground documenting things that have never been seen by
the public before. Please make sure you follow him.

Speaker 12 (01:14:46):
I had the opportunity to check out the ones in
the Ika Know at the ECA University. I did an
interview with doctors Uniga and you know, actually, through a
weird turn of events, I actually got to meet the
wakero responsible for supposedly.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Finding these things. You know, I just got to say.

Speaker 12 (01:15:09):
I had no idea about this topic at all, and
years ago it was one of your videos was the
first introduction to it. And so just you know, objectively
speaking on the outside, I mean that was years ago,
and you were kind of like on the front lines
of this releasing stuff like as it was happening, almost
in real time with the Ministry of Culture rating the
press conference and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Good the ground.

Speaker 12 (01:15:34):
Respect admire your diligence when it comes to this topic
because I know that within the past several years things
have developed on both sides of the spectrum.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
And from watching your work, you know.

Speaker 12 (01:15:50):
It's relatively journalistic in your approach, you know where where
you're presenting both sides and just as as a view
were on half of it, and who wants to keep
an open mind about this stuff but not be overloaded with.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Uh false information.

Speaker 12 (01:16:13):
From my experience, you have seemed to provide a very
balanced approach, you know. And and and as a researcher,
I appreciate that. Thank you, Ray, We'll appreciate that, yeah, man.
And and so the way that came about, actually I
was staying in a hostel in the Palpa region and
I just started talking to the the owner of the

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place and he was like, oh, yeah, I know that guy.
And he next morning he took me to his house
and I can speak with him these things.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
I have.

Speaker 12 (01:16:49):
Continued to uh abstain on providing an opinion, on uh
solidifying my beliefs one way or another. There, I'm relatively
agnostic when it comes to this, meaning, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
I must be trying to cash in on the hooks
himself for.

Speaker 12 (01:17:07):
All the evidence. You know, I'm just gathering information.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
All the evidence. There's been so many different experts in anatomy,
and you know, like forensic pathologists that have looked at
these things and all agree that they're glued together fakes.
What evidence are you waiting for? How much more evidence
do you need?

Speaker 12 (01:17:28):
Really waiting for full reports to come out?

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
And who knows, maybe this video is part of it.

Speaker 12 (01:17:33):
And when I spoke to Mario, first off, he wanted
to charge me three hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
To ask him twenty questions And yeah, absolutely not, guy,
absolutely not.

Speaker 12 (01:17:47):
And but what I what I realized there is that
he's in a position where, because of all of this,
he's in a position where he can charge people to
just talk to him. The guy's charging like three thousand
dollars to take people out to, you know, the desert somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:18:07):
He ended up saying that like for every very five
or ten that the that have been donated for research
or study, he has a hundred of them, you know.
And I point blank ast him, you know what type
of market there is.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
For this stuff?

Speaker 12 (01:18:22):
And people will buy just pieces of fingers, people will
buy you know, and I'm like, that's wild.

Speaker 13 (01:18:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
He actually ended up showing me one of the doesn't
exist waiting a long time new.

Speaker 12 (01:18:36):
Models is what I'm calling them, the tail, one of
the small ones.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
And so he pulls up his phone and he shows
it to me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
How the ship looks just looks bake?

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
How much does that go for it?

Speaker 15 (01:18:52):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:18:53):
Right here, it was that one?

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Yeah, it was that one.

Speaker 8 (01:18:56):
So that's the one. Did he show you that actual one?
He's a picture.

Speaker 12 (01:19:02):
No, he showed me video foot like they were on
a on on a table. There was actually two of.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Them, cool guys.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
Camera phone was just panning around them.

Speaker 8 (01:19:17):
How much does that one sell for Raoul?

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Uh or?

Speaker 8 (01:19:22):
What's the listing price?

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
He said, twenty k, twenty thousand dollars for a fake
dollars for this little guy right here, So like this
is just my experience, baby nice.

Speaker 12 (01:19:40):
All that being said, there's a market for these things,
because there's there's people buying them, there's profits being made.

Speaker 8 (01:19:47):
I want to segue now, Raoul, and this what I
like to call well, it's first of all, it's the
grave looting complex in Peru, grave looting industry mummies, the
Nasca mummy is industrial complex. Because I know money is
being made.

Speaker 12 (01:20:06):
I can I can, uh just to jump in, I
can validate that for you. We had no idea how
any of this stuff worked.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
I still don't. I'm very very much on the periphery
of all of this.

Speaker 12 (01:20:20):
I just happened to on this last expedition, you know,
run into Mario and then run into.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Another Waketo who.

Speaker 12 (01:20:31):
Robber. We got to talking and he was showing me
the the because apparently the buyers they want, you know,
they want to know the providence of these things. So
like these wacos are actually filming the artifacts being exhumed
and thinks, because I.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Mean crazy field that's filled with human skulls.

Speaker 12 (01:20:55):
If I was a buyer too, i'd want to I'd
want to see the legitimacy of this'd.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
You get this from where was it created from?

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
And so he showed me that.

Speaker 12 (01:21:04):
And I don't know some some American buyer, and it
probably doesn't. I remember talking to Barnhart a while Doctor
Barnhart a while ago. It's you know, this person will
buy it and and for this much and then sell
it to that buyer for that much, and that buyer
will and it's just this, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
Look again, I'm sharing my experience.

Speaker 12 (01:21:26):
These are questions I asked other people, and these are
just the responses I was given.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
They don't reflect my personal beliefs at all all.

Speaker 12 (01:21:33):
But for example, the owner of the hospital I was
staying in in Papa when I before he took me
to meet Mario, you know, I asked him about these
things and he was like, oh man, everybody here knows
those aren't real.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Everybody here knows those aren't real. So it's just a
scam stupid Americans, right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
That's what he said. You know, here's the art, here's
the I I spoke to you about this before. I
have family in Peru, I have a lot of friends in.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Hell.

Speaker 12 (01:22:01):
When I was in Cusco, I was asking, you know,
the locals just where When I would say, at a
different hostel and stuff, because I was actually going to
Ika next. You know, it's like, you know, what if
what do you guys think about the Nasca mummies? Nobody
had even heard of them, even heard of them.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
That's funny, right in Nasca, nobody had heard of them.
So it was a little market market it to the American,
stupid American audience.

Speaker 8 (01:22:30):
Basically, this is an American phenomenon in Peru.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
It that's that's I mean. I ran into maybe a
dozen people who never heard of it.

Speaker 8 (01:22:43):
Tell me a little bit. Some of your videos that
really touched me are Cemetery Network and there are hundreds
and if that's an underestimate, let.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Me know, I wouldn't feel thousands. Probably they're cheap, but
heart hostels.

Speaker 8 (01:23:03):
Are scattered about, completely pillaged and disregard guarded to the side.
Tell me about that experience that you've had and and
what's going on there? What's happening there?

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
So, I mean there's mummies and scooter parts.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Yes, in during the twenty twenty four experience, I.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Know, those puppet skills to work, right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Yeah, you can see it on Google Earth. It's it
looks like the surface of the moon.

Speaker 12 (01:23:32):
It's so pochmarked with these looting pits, and that location
that that stretched people.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
I mean speakable looting.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
Pit after looting pit after looting pit.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
That's creating human And.

Speaker 12 (01:23:44):
So I I went to some different locations during this
last expedition, and like, it's just you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
When I was a kid, there was this place near
my home off in the river work like uh, the
dell were river and there's all these gravestones, and the
kids in my neighborhood said that that was an abandoned graveyard.
But it turns out and kids, you know, would be like, oh,
let's go dig up a body, and we went to

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look at the weitn't but we went to look at
the graveyard. And then I found out from my father
that that wasn't a graveyard. They just dumped a whole
bunch of gravestones. They removed bodies from a grave and
relocated them somewhere nearby, but they didn't take the headstones.

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So they just dumped all these headstones on the on
the river bank basically, and us kids would go there
thinking it was an abandoned graveyard, but it was actually
just just the gravestones. So but I'm pretty sure that
a couple of kids tried to dig up a body there.
Nobody found one because there was no bodies there, just

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the gravestones of Look all these human skulls.

Speaker 12 (01:25:01):
Bones and remains and artifacts, and I mean, it's it's.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
It's jarring.

Speaker 12 (01:25:10):
It's just incredibly jarring to see that, you know, had
I got really emotional, and I've been I've been to
dozens of them, but but this last I think I
just had this realization that the people.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
There, money in the world, people in the world all
costs money.

Speaker 12 (01:25:30):
Try to put these bones back together to you know, uh,
create the full human beings that were once buried, and
you'll never you'll.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
Never be able to, yeah, put these people back together.
Everything is in such disarray.

Speaker 12 (01:25:47):
There's bones missing, that hand here afoot there from a
different you know body, And I believe I know what
they're looking.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
But they're looking for, like I've.

Speaker 12 (01:25:58):
Seen, you've seen the footage, mummy is literally torn apart,
the cotton that they used to be wrapped and it's
just you know, spread out all over the place.

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
So I believe they're looking for precious artifacts, uh.

Speaker 12 (01:26:10):
You know, jewelry, any sort of metallurgy, but also particularly
in those regions, the textiles.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
And I actually saw the wakero uh in Lima. I mean,
it showed me some of the textiles that have been
taken off some of these mummies. I don't know if
it was down.

Speaker 12 (01:26:30):
From the NASCAR region or not. And actually the imagery
looked more northern. But I mean, that's what they're taking,
and there's a market for it. And I remember talking
to you a few months back, and I hadn't even
thought about it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Of course, all this is highly illegal.

Speaker 12 (01:26:46):
You know, the idea that maybe maybe there was an
ancient cult of some sort in these regions and they
were doing something human forming bodies after the fact, or
trying to make them look certain way.

Speaker 8 (01:27:02):
By the way, shout out, shout out to Luke Cavern's
mess with that idea before, but his video on the
NASCAR mummies plays on that angle. And hey, maybe that's
the last shot for.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
This in my home and.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Follow well, you know, I mean, and and that's the
thing I think.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
I think it's I don't know if you're talking to me,
but I'm good a little. I mean, like.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Us, I want.

Speaker 12 (01:27:35):
And this is what I feel you're doing doing here. Look,
here's a sound bite for you. I know you didn't
want to make this video, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Like, I know that you and I spoke like until
you know that the true story behind how they're making.

Speaker 8 (01:27:50):
Me interesting, it's okay.

Speaker 12 (01:27:58):
There was a point where it becomes too over whelming,
it's too much, it's too calcified, it's too toxic, toxic
where it's just like, you know what I'm hopefully you
know the responsibility that you felt to you know, your
audience and into this time. You know, if anybody should
be making this video, it's you because you were there

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from the start, you know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:28:20):
Yeah, I appreciate that, at least the start of it
going mainstream. Uh, you know, twenty sixteen, there was a
lot of people involved, and you'd see little blips of
it on the internet pop up. It was really twenty
twenty three, September of twenty twenty three when the Mexican
Congress the b Let's pull.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Service Mexican.

Speaker 8 (01:28:42):
So at that moment is when I just was curious
no one was going down there. I went down with
an iPhone and a drone. And you're right. The reason
let me clarify that I work, well, I didn't happen
word to hide anything.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
That's okay, I know and you know what.

Speaker 8 (01:29:03):
This because I was in a position to put out
whateveryone is seen at this our interview is gonna be
at the end. So everyone saw, and I wanted to
make sure everyone had that information that was presented by
the doctors, by the specialists, because one thing after another,

(01:29:25):
it started with that photo that really made me go,
you know what, this is getting wild? I need to
take a closer, more skeptical lookod for him on the ground. Man,
you're doing it, and well, I appreciate it, man, Thanks
for thanks for being on today.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
Thanks will Man. I look forward to this coming out.

Speaker 8 (01:29:42):
Man, So I would like to take the time to
not call out, but just encourage.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Congress.

Speaker 8 (01:29:49):
Consider all the information in this video.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
The right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Of course, he hired Dave Grosh to help him hunt aliens,
so this is no prize. And there Stephen Greer with
one of the fake feet.

Speaker 8 (01:30:03):
I respect your open mind. I would never criticize you
for that. I would never criticize you for even looking
into this.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
It's one thing to have an open mind. It's another
thing to be a complete and total moron. And I
think Rep. Burlasson has wasted enough taxpayer money on alien hunting.

Speaker 8 (01:30:21):
But yeah, maybe you take a look at this.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Doesn't he have problems in his own district and jurisdiction
he should be working on as a representative instead of
like going to alien events and shit, if you get
a chance.

Speaker 8 (01:30:35):
This is not a political video. All people involved come
from different backgrounds. I myself probably would be categorized as
a conservative. None of that mattered to the people who
got together to make this video. Today, after two years
of chasing the mummy and all the information he heard
in this video has allowed me to finally come to

(01:30:56):
that not only are these not a new species, but
that they're a modern day hoax. But ultimately what pushed
me over the edge to make this video was when
I heard from reliable sources that experts in Peru are
afraid to speak out about this out of fear for
their safety and their lives. There are some intense rumors
crimes revolving around these mummies that are far more nefarious

(01:31:18):
than some black market antiquity scam. And also the truth matters,
And to be honest, I believe the public was on
the verge of entering a mass psychosis surrounding these mummies,
and hey, I was right there with you at one
point on the publicly stated but at one point I
thought these things were real. This video is going to
kick the hornet's nest in an area of the Internet

(01:31:38):
that can be pretty nasty, and I'm probably gonna log
off for a few days. So there it is, folks.
Thanks for watching, everybody. I would love to have you
as a subscriber.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Yeah, please go to Incredible History on YouTube and I
will add I will add a link to this video
in the description of the video as soon as we're
finished with broadcast. So, my friends, I'll take some comments
and questions from the live chat, whether you're chatting on

(01:32:12):
Twitch or on kick or on YouTube. I've got some
big plans for this weekend. I just want to let
you know. I want to thank each and every one
of you who joined us. I have been the host
of truth Seekers for some six years now, but I've
recently launched a brand new show which really has nothing
to do with True Seekers. It's a completely different show,

(01:32:35):
and that show is called The Internet in Saturday Circus.
So this Saturday night, at seven pm, I wrote here
on my ex Please follow me on ex at Stephen Cambia.
This Saturday night, January tenth, at eight pm, the second
pilot episode of the Internet in Santitay Circus debuts only
on Kick. Somebody pointed out a second pilot episode, there's

(01:32:58):
only supposed to be one pilot episode. Stephen, Well, I'm
new it creating television shows, I guess, so yeah, I'm
calling all the first bunch of episodes, pilot episodes, the
proof of concept episodes. So the Internet, the second episode
of the Internet and Sanity Circus debuts. I'll have a

(01:33:19):
special co host this week, which you males will be
happy to see. I hope eighty percent mail audience give
them what they want. We'll have more premium dancing. Worse,
we're gonna have some incredibly crazy videos, all new segments.
We're not repeating segments from the first episode. All new segments,

(01:33:40):
and if I can, I will tell you what those segments.
So the next episode segments. We're gonna have World's Dumbest Criminals.
We're gonna have ghetto shit segment, What the fuck did
I just watch? Segment, craziest Pranks, neighbor nightmares, men at work,
and more. And we're gonna have incredible guest stars, including

(01:34:00):
one of the world's greatest sleight of hand magicians. His
name is rock Oslano. You may have seen him on
Celebrity Cadabra on VH one back in the day, teaching
celebrities how to be magicians. And one of the greatest
illusionists on earth, Franz Harari with some incredible illusions. We've
got musical guests, maybe a comedian guest, and much much

(01:34:24):
more this Saturday night only on our Kick channel, and
if Arlem would be kind enough to share the kickchannel again,
you should go over there, start a Kick account, follow
our Kick channel, and you can also watch the first
episode of the Internet in Saturday Circus over on our
Kick channel will be the second video if you go
to our channel, and we thank all of you for

(01:34:45):
your kindness tuning in had I literally had cold waking
up from cold sweat nightmares like I was having nightmares
that there was only two live viewers, right, I think
we almost cracked one hundred live viewers, which for a
Kick Show exclusive Kickshow is pretty good. We're going to
try our best to get more people to the next

(01:35:07):
premiere this Saturday night, eight pm Eastern, and I've got
a bunch of more True Seeker shows for you this week,
at least two. Maybe we'll do three this week. For
those that are aware, I had some recent health problems
and spent some time in the hospital. I had two
minor minor brain surgeries. I don't think the word minor

(01:35:27):
and brain surgery should ever go in the same sentence,
but it is what it is, and it's taken quite
a long time to recover after I've gotten home from
the hospital. But I'm feeling almost almost fully recovered. And
it's interesting that the doctors initially told me I had
to take many weeks off, but I know sitting around

(01:35:49):
board as shit, I don't deal well with just resting.
So I started doing part time, just a couple of
shows a week. But we're going to go back to
the three or four shows now that I'm feeling better.
I'm up for musical guests. Send me a video, we'll
play it. Tales of Sounding voyage. Send me a video,
email it to me at True Seeker Show at gmail

(01:36:10):
dot com, but pick up five minute one. Don't give
me an hour long video and make me have to
clip it or yeah, ghost Goblin to some extent, I
believe it's real, but it's all probably tied to the occult,
so it's definitely something to avoid. I'm not sure what
you're referencing. Yes, this one was all a deception, very

(01:36:31):
much a deception for sure. So yeah, we're going to
do a show this week on Corey Good and David Wilcock.
We're going to combine those two together.

Speaker 14 (01:36:41):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
We used to back in the day cover whatever Corey
Good was up to and what David Wilcock was up
to on the same show. They're just too boring to
get to cover separately anymore. And there's an awful lot
of Corey Good losses that we want to detail for
our audience because Corey Good is a loser. He has
always been a loser. He's a loser now and he

(01:37:03):
will always be a loser. Lots of el's piling up
for Corey Good and of course David Wilcock. Those two
are basically their careers are a sinking ship. Ambergainnon says
I had fun at the kickstream Saturday night. I sure
had fun, and I'm glad already set you up, says

(01:37:26):
Tales and Sonic Goodge. We'll do it again. I'm not
going to be I can't be going digging through a
year old email. I know you did, probably, but just
send me something again if you want to be included,
I'd be happy to do that for you and give
you a link back to your channel. So we're also
going to be covering the whole UFO circus in one
show this week. Right, Spooky's here spamming my live chat

(01:37:51):
about the new Dark Alliance film, which, by the way,
I still can't buy. I still haven't seen the movie
that I'm in, even though I was going to buy it. Right,
nothing but El's upology and it says uap here sap
Steve Long, welcome. You should come on the UFO Circus
episode this week that we do, Steve Long, because you're

(01:38:11):
kind of paying attention to that, probably I've largely tuned out.
I'm like, what Jay Anderson said that Elizondo is a fraud. Well,
there's a pot cattle black situation if I ever saw one.
And then we've got Ryan Bledsoe showing people orbs that
is just an out of focused star that they took
a picture of, right, claiming that there's a new metrical

(01:38:33):
message inside. It's all so childish. Stupid and ridiculous. Yes,
grimas Gibman is here in a member. Thanks for being
a member, says David is still making payments on his teeth,
so he can't go broke.

Speaker 14 (01:38:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Well yeah, well what are you gonna do? Right, We'll
take a moment to check in with the kicklive chat.
Make sure we don't have any support to call out.
No money, no honey, no, not one on Kick tonight.
But remember you can become a subscriber on Kick even
if we're not broadcasting live, and I'll call it out
on the next show. You could give some subs even

(01:39:09):
if we're not broadcasting live, and I will call it
out on the next very next live show. So we
thank you for kindness, generosity, and support. All you Kick supporters.
We want to thank you Patreon supporters, you YouTube channel members.
By the way, I didn't do very much for your
YouTube channel members and Patreon supporters last month as I
was still recovering from my surgeries. So I apologize for that.

(01:39:32):
I am gonna do a Patreon and members only video
this week and every week in the month of January,
so you know, I apologize. I hope you understand I
really didn't feel up to doing very much. Right, all right,
Steve Long is going to join. Make sure that you
don't use internet from a potato like you used too, though.

(01:39:53):
You gotta have good internet, right, Yeah, it would be
fun to have you. I'd like to get a few
others so we can have like a roundtable discussion of
the UFO circus bullshity, right, and the next few weeks.
It's out in the next few weeks. What is it
going to be on Amazon in the next few weeks?

Speaker 14 (01:40:15):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
My question, is there any supernatural stories you actually believe
or are leaning towards believing? Well, there are some stories
about demonic possession that I have a hard time explaining.
Let's put it that way. I have been back and
forth on the whole Roswell ride for many years now.

(01:40:38):
I don't believe it was a weather balloon, and I
don't believe I believe it may have been an alien
crash landing.

Speaker 14 (01:40:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
You can buy a rent without a monthly sub I can't.
I'm gonna share my screen like I don't know if
you and Darcy think I'm retarded, I can share my
screen and show you.

Speaker 6 (01:40:58):
I go to the link.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
There's no buy it button. Anywhere. I even had Sharon
look at it because, for those unaware, I basically am
half blind. One of my eyes is paralyzed and I
have very poor vision. There's no buy it button. She
tried on her account. I tried on my account. There's
no buy it button. I can't see the film I'm in,

(01:41:21):
but you know, and I get people are asking me
to review the film. I can't review a film that
I haven't seen, so I'm gonna have to wait until
it's on Amazon, I guess, so that I can see it.
What night are you doing it? I think Thursday? Yeah, Thursday,
because tomorrow we've got the Corey Good and David Wilcox
shit Show Thursday night at seven pm. Steve dm me

(01:41:43):
on Twitter. Listen, Ah, send me the Facebook link to
the movie on Apple TV. I will share my screen

(01:42:04):
and show you. There's no option for me to buy now.
Are you telling me I have to buy it on
my phone? I haven't tried that yet, but I should
be able to buy it on desktop and watch it
on a desktop, because I don't want to watch it
on my phone on a tiny little screen. I'm half blind. Spooky, right,
So we will turn the comments off of the stage.

(01:42:26):
That will be the first night tonight where we shared
the live chat right on screen. We haven't done that
in a while. We used to pop out the chat
and put it, but I can only share one thing
on the screen at a time, so you know, yeah,
so I think we've done our due diligence. We'll call
this a quick one tonight for a change. I'll be

(01:42:47):
back to my night seven pm Eastern Standard Time with
the show on the Sinking Ships shit show that is
Corey Good and David Wilcock. People are asking me a
few have they asked me for a dark side fill update.
We haven't done a film show in a while. If
I could fit it in this week, I will, And
I'm planning on a special event where we're gonna do

(01:43:07):
an open panel and anybody can join the show, and
then we're gonna watch and make fun of Corey Good's
latest movie, his shitty movie. But we can't do it
on YouTube because I don't want to get a copyright
claim again from that moron. Actually I don't know. Looks
like he may lose his YouTube channel and the next week,
so maybe we'll do it after he loses his YouTube

(01:43:27):
channel and can't copyright claim well, I think he could
still copyright claim me even without I don't know. We're
gonna do it on Kick because Kick is a little
more free speech and a little less restrictive. We're gonna
play the movie. Everybody's gonna be on the screen with me,
and we're gonna watch this piece of shit Corey Good
documentary where he's basically exploiting his own children, trying to

(01:43:50):
sell fake supernatural stories now instead of secret space stories.
But there's some secret space slop in there too, don't
you worry? Right? Yeah, So if you want to see
Corey Goods movie but you don't want to buy it,
I don't want to buy it, but somebody a viewer
paid me to buy gave me the ten dollars. And
even though it pains me to give Corey Good the

(01:44:11):
ten dollars, he can have my ten dollars because then
everybody's going to see how shitty this movie is. We're
going to do that live on Kick hopefully this weekend. Right,
you may come in costplaying as Corey I was going
to do that. Remember I have a Corey Good mask
that we made, right ah, oh man, Corey Good is

(01:44:33):
such a bonehead loser. I still can't believe that he
filed all these false copyright strikes. I really think that
he didn't know that if you lose, if you file
a false copyright strike and the person appeals that you
filed against, the strike goes on your channel. We know
that he got a strike on his channel from me today.
So congratulations, more on Corey Good, enjoy the strike. What

(01:44:57):
if everyone was Corey Yeah, dresses core very good or
people should be able to address this, is Corey Good
or David Wilcock. Right, we'll have a prize for the
best Secret Space Drifter costume.

Speaker 14 (01:45:09):
Ha.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
Maybe Apple TV in the UK is different. Yeah, I
don't know what's going on with it. I'm just gonna
wait until the Amazon, until it's on Amazon. I'm told
it's gonna be on Amazon. Suit I'll buy it there.
I don't ever have trouble buying a movie on Amazon.
I don't know. You mean Third Phase aren't the only
ones making cheesy UFO movies. No, Corey Good makes cheesy

(01:45:30):
UFO movies too, right, buy on PC, watch buy on phone,
watch on PC. Maybe I'll do that. I don't know.
I don't have Apple TV on my phone. So now
I got to install an app I don't want on
my phone, right, do you know I got a new phone,
Spooky like, I don't know, six four or five months ago.

(01:45:51):
Now I haven't put Twitter on my phone. I have
Messenger on my phone. I don't have Facebook on my phone.
I don't want social media or any app on my
phone spying on me that I don't need. We need
someone to come on the panel as the token David. Yeah,
I'll give it a try. Spooky though, So I think

(01:46:11):
we've done our due diligence. I'm going to bounce on
out of here. I have some work to prepare for
this weekend's festivities, especially if we do this Corey Good
shit show. And congratulations Corey Good. I was more or
less uncovering you until you fraudulently attacked my business, my reputation,
and my YouTube channel. Now I'm going to clown on

(01:46:32):
you a little bit more so enjoy the slow, steady
decline of your drifting, scamming career. It's over, buddy, So
we've done our due diligence. I'd really encourage you to
check out Incredible History YouTube channel. I'll add that link
in the description of the video as soon as we
end the broadcast tonight, please come here again tomorrow night,

(01:46:56):
seven pm Eastern Standard time. I have another great show
planned for you. No place I would rather be. But
that's all I got for you for now. So that's
all I got for your friends. Good night, and God
bless all of.

Speaker 6 (01:47:08):
You, John Corners of the night.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Secreted in front the light, this Christian screams, shattering all
your dreams.

Speaker 14 (01:47:36):
E's lying open now.

Speaker 6 (01:47:38):
Trust you can't testify.

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
And it goes through the halls, crossing all your walls
to say, guys exposing the truth, to say, guys calling.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
For you, I'm coming by the open your eyes. Shadows
try to hide, no place for them to bide.

Speaker 6 (01:48:08):
Like We'll kiss the crew from fill what is true?

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
Lunging from your fears, chat.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Escape the seers.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
Truth will hunt you down.

Speaker 8 (01:48:20):
Saw not your crew.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Truth.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
Say guys exposing the truth.

Speaker 6 (01:48:27):
Truth, Say guys coming for.

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
You, I'm coming the loes. Open your eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
I trying open now you you can't disavow echoes through
the horse, classing all yours to say us exposing the truth.
So say, guys coming for you, I'm coming the lies.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Open your eyes

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