September 24, 2025 • 36 mins
Join us as we dive into societal norms and share our unpopular opinions on everything from celebrity culture to food preferences and social media etiquette.
• Indifference towards celebrity news and engagements, particularly the recent Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce announcement
• Group chat etiquette and the pressure to respond immediately to text messages
• Controversial food preferences including cereal choices, oat milk opinions, and the over-hyped pumpkin spice season
• Fashion debates including Crocs on adults, shoes without socks, and the practicality of "no-show" socks
• TV shows we never got into despite their cultural significance (Friends, Dawson's Creek, The Sopranos)
• The joy of rewatching favorite shows versus starting new ones
• Reality TV preferences and recommendations
• Corporate meetings that "could have been an email"
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Hey guys, this is anotherepisode of Turn the Page Podcast
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This is one of your co-hosts,cherie Page Barber.
This is your other co-host,tawana Page.
We're coming to you live fromCherie Page Barber's deck,
correct?
We're going to start this oneoff with a quick round of this
or that.
(01:07):
Yay, all right.
Um, sweet or savory.
What does savory mean?
Savory is like.
I explain it as more like salty, like heavier, like sweet is
maybe like fruity desserts, andsavory might be like a caramel
or like a chocolatey, like arich okay, I don't know.
(01:31):
Maybe a savory.
I think I'm more savory too,like for breakfast.
I can't do like french toastwith fruit like it has to.
No, I can't do that.
Sausage Like, yeah, yeah, likethe real breakfast.
Yeah, dining out or home-cookedmeal oh, so I can do both,
though depending on the mood.
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Sometimes I like crave stuffthat I know we can make at home.
I think, yeah, I think it alsodepends on the mood.
Yes, I also crave when otherpeople cook for me.
Like I eat out of the house,yeah, I enjoy dining out, but I
think I enjoy dining out becauseit happens less often than
cooking at home.
Yeah, so it's like a luxury.
Yeah, huh.
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Cardio or weights, cardio orstrength training that's so
interesting.
I like both.
I like sometimes both in thesame instance.
I think I tend to do morecardio.
Like Zumba, yes, but I feelbetter after I do strength
training.
Like it makes me feel strong,okay, like a badass.
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Yes, um, okay.
Phone call or text messagePlease text me all day.
Don't call me.
Don't call my phone.
I won't answer.
Don't call my phone, all right.
Last one oh, I thought this wasgoing to be Dang.
Hold on.
Oh, okay.
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Game night or movie night I fallasleep into movie night, so
probably game night.
I love the concept of a movienight.
I know I can't wait to do itwith Sage.
But, yeah, game night, I'mgoing to throw in one more.
Tacos, or burgers Tacos, getout of my face, love tacos.
Yes, so much, okay.
What are we talking about today,guys?
(03:22):
We're talking about First.
Welcome to another episode,guys.
Thank you so much for joining.
We're talking about some quiteunpopular opinions.
Yeah, that we have aboutsocietal norms.
I put norms in quotes.
Yeah, we may or may not giveour reason, but we're just going
to let you know.
Okay, and please don't come forus.
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This is our opinions.
Yeah, and this is our podcast,whatever we want.
Thank you all right.
Would you want to start with theone that you had in mind?
What inspired this episode?
Um, what inspired this wasapparently, it was a big week in
the entertainment world.
Um, someone named taylor swiftgot engaged.
Who is her?
Is it?
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What's his name?
Travis Kelsey, right, travis?
I continued on about my day.
I didn't even know whathappened until I came back to my
desk and my coworkers told me.
I was like, oh great, I don'tcare.
Yeah, I don't care, I reallydon't.
I couldn't look at my Instagramwhen it happened Tuesday,
monday, without seeing somethingabout her and him.
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I heard, the ring is not thatattractive.
I saw a glimpse of it on CNNand I just kept scrolling.
It's attractive to her.
She's wearing it Whatever.
It's just not newsworthy to me.
No, I mean, I liked her back inthe day, first album yeah, I
think it's just because of allthe hype that's around it.
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Yeah, I'm, which irritates me.
Yeah, just feels very trendy.
Yes, and that's one of ourissues too that people.
There are certain people outthere that just follow every
trend and it's not authentic tome, because trends obviously
change.
Swifties don't come for us.
No, like it's our opinion.
Press, you don't stop, youdon't need to cancel us, um,
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because I'm I'm not saying thatswifties are trendy, but it
feels like the way that sheengages.
Do you think we have a lot ofswifty listeners?
Probably?
I feel like a lot of people areSwifties and like we wouldn't
know, true?
So, because sometimes I'm likesurprised by it, I'm like, oh,
okay, yeah, okay.
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So, yeah, I'm with you on thatone.
How about?
All right, you're laughing.
Yeah, these are good ones, okay, I'm just trying to figure out
where to start.
She's using she's using ourgirl chat gpt.
Yes, um, so I don't mind themif I'm being responded to.
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I hate being ignored.
Yeah, um, sometimes in thegroup chat there's a lot of
people.
It's like sometimes like yourline won't be responded to
because there's just so manypeople.
Yeah, but then also, I don'tknow if I don't know why apple
does this, but like I will namea group chat and then, like the
same people in that group chatsay someone else like starts a
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new chat with the same people,apple will like create it as a
new text and not continuation.
Oh, and I'm trying to figureout how to merge.
I don't know if you can,because it drives me.
I was like, did it?
Was someone added or taken away?
I was like, why are these twoseparate?
They're the same exact group ofpeople.
Weird, like that happened lastweek and I'm like, why didn't
they just go to the chat that Ihad it named?
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It's no one.
No member membership change.
It's all the same people.
Weird, maybe their numberchanged?
No, every, it still comes up as, like the people's numbers like
nothing.
It's so weird and it's not thefirst time it's happened and
that really bothers me.
I it depends on who's in thegroup chat.
Well, that too, um, butsometimes, if, if, like, the
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group chat is lit and I havenothing to add, I will mute the
group chat.
Just come back later to open itto get rid of.
It's almost like replying on anemail, like I wish there was a
kind way in an email to be like,please, like there is.
You can be, like, please removeme.
But like in a group chat, youcan just like kindly remove
yourself.
You don't have need someoneelse to do that for you, or you
can mute it.
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Yeah, but a smaller group chat,and if it feels like relevant or
like I have something to add,I'm all for it.
The more intimate ones I'm downfor.
But when it's like 15 peoplefrom your family and like nobody
knows what's going on and likeI'm not responding, I agree, we
have some with like some peoplein our family Like well, I'll
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label them on my phone likecousin, like cousin chats, or
like I have stuff from peoplefrom work and it's like just
like different groups.
But I also get irritated whenpeople don't respond in the
group chat.
I know some people aren't asbig texters as some are.
Yeah, some like they justthey're just bad at texting and
that's like everybody'sanswering.
But then it's like a textetiquette thing.
Okay, well, that is actually onhere too interesting.
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I don't like being ignored.
I also don't like when peopleignore in the group chat or
ignore my text messages, whichis me being ignored.
So the next hot take agreed ornot?
Texting back immediately isn'trequired.
It depends who it is like.
If I'm having an active,engaging conversation with you
and then you immediately stopengaging, I'm gonna wonder if
you got hit by a bus orsomething.
Yeah, I mean, I I don't feellike texting back is immediately
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.
I was gonna say texting back isrequired, please text back.
Or if like, if you're asking aquestion, if you're at the store
, we'll then call.
I guess you can call them, butI also will still send the text.
I think it depends on thedynamic of the relationship.
We were just discussing this inanother context recently that
like you don't know what peoplehave going on, one thousand
percent going through somethinglike yeah, you just don't know,
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um, but I think I for myself amlike, let me just quickly
respond, like I don't want to berude or make them think that I
forgot or whatever.
So I put more pressure onmyself to respond immediately.
But when it comes to theexpectation, I think, especially
with my friends, like I justknow I'm not, I might not hear
back right away, and that's fine.
I mean, yeah, it's fine, butyou've already known that and
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they might not hear back from meright away.
Yeah, I don't always text backimmediately.
Um, I will let things sit,maybe like a few days or like a
day or so, because, again, we'reall busy.
I'm a mom, I'm not gonnarespond to you right away
sometimes.
Sometimes I will, um, but I dolove when people like this
doesn't bother.
I think it's hilarious when,like, you text somebody and like
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it's been like a few hoursmaybe, and then you see them
active on social media andyou're just like, wait a second.
I just think that's.
I don't get offended, I juststart laughing.
People get offended by that.
Yeah, I thought you were gonnasay when you text someone and
then they like take a week or soto respond and just respond
like well, you have some peoplelike that in your life, I know,
but like not even acknowledging,just like, oh, they just
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completely answers the same guyhasn't been.
That cracks me up.
That cracks me up.
Um, that cracks me up.
All right, some of these arereally just like offensive.
Oh, in my opinion, oh, okay,pumpkin spice season is
overhyped, guys.
It is.
It's August 29th today.
Yeah, I believe Dunkin startedspilling out this PSL this week,
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last week, last week.
It's a money grab.
You're a billion dollarbusiness, but they do every year
because it works, but they'resmart.
It's bullshit.
It's not even september yet.
It's fall outside.
It's a cool 60 65 degrees.
Right now it is 75 degrees.
Okay, this morning it was 60degrees.
We're not into the morninganymore.
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I'm just saying I'm sorry, guys, I am, by birth, a fall lady.
I'm october.
You should be biased, but mymother said on the day I was
born it was like a second summer.
It was like 80 degrees when Iwas born.
Okay, um, I don't do fall untillike september 23rd.
That's wild to me.
It's not wild.
You considered my wedding asummer wedding.
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Yeah, it was the 14th.
No, no, no, actually I didn'teven think about it.
But now you said that it's been14th, it's still summer.
It was a fall.
We were having this debate withthe co-worker because she's
getting married next year andshe was gonna make it september
12th, but then she had to changeit.
It's still in september, butshe's like.
I was like oh, you're a summerwedding.
She's like 20th september it'sfall.
She's like that's wild.
She's like that's wild to me.
The whole month of September isnot fall to you.
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I'm like it's not when you hitdouble digits, like September
10th and up, at least in my mind, for weddings colors, check a
calendar.
Okay, september 14th, it was afall wedding.
Check a calendar.
Our colors were burgundy anddark gray and they looked
fabulous Because it was fallthemed.
Moving on, check a calendar.
Boneless wings are justglorified chicken nuggets.
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They are Disagreed.
I love a good boneless wing.
Go to McDonald's.
I don't like to eat wings.
Bone-in wings I love it.
I love wings, but I like it'slike a true carnivore when I eat
them.
I don't like getting my facemessy, my hand like it's like
under your nails.
No, so I use gloves when Guys,guys or like a fork, guys, guys,
a fork and wings.
You've got to see this in liveaction because it's real.
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So, boneless wings, Iappreciate that you can just eat
with a fork and not have tolike maneuver around the bone
marrow.
So sparkling water tastes likeTV static.
Chat GPT is really coming forme.
How do we know what TV statictastes like?
Chat GPT?
I guess what you would imagineit tastes like.
I love sparkling water.
I love a seltzer.
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I love the carbonation, thefizzing.
We grew up on seltzer water.
I love it.
We also had regular water, guys, but don't come for us or our
parents Interesting.
This is like it's a deepsocietal norms.
Yeah, but some of these arejust like stupid.
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Oh, I don't like cream cheese.
Okay, I love cream.
I do a bagel with butter ornothing, so good, it's just.
Oh, I also don't do cottagecheese.
That's disgusting.
And the people who dress it upwith like mustard and like I get
that.
You think it's good.
I don't think that that makesit better.
I know some people that put itin their eggs.
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I'm like, oh, you can't tasteit.
I'm like that's disgusting.
I know, and also people thatliterally eat it out of the jar
with a spoon and I want to notlook at them when they're doing
that.
No, I can't, my stomach can'thandle it.
Okay, this might really get ussome hate.
What about some like classicshows that people love?
That you were kind of like?
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First one that comes to mindfor me is friends.
So I had plenty of friends.
One of my, my best friend inparticular, loved friends and
used to fall asleep to like thedvd set every night.
I think that I I just never havegiven it a full sit down.
I've seen a few episodes hereand there Same, but I know
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enough just from social mediaand people in our lives liking
it.
I know all the characters, thequotes are everywhere.
I just don't have any interestin going back and doing a deep
dive Same, that doesn't feelnecessary to me.
Never got into Dawson's Creek.
Oh I, interesting, going backand doing a deep dive.
That doesn't feel.
Never got into Dawson's Creek.
Oh, I loved Dawson's Creek, butI didn't watch it at the time.
I went to the library and gotthe little box sets that you
could rent.
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Yeah, I love a One Tree Hill.
I'm a fan of One Tree Hill.
That was a good one.
I loved Laguna, yeah.
Um, I never got into Survivor.
No, or what was the other one?
When you like, was the showlike you lost weight and you
found love or something?
The Biggest Loser?
Yes, I never got into thateither.
No, I love a real world, oh,yeah.
Oh my gosh, not the challenge,but the real world.
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I like wanted to be on one ofthose so badly.
What else did I never get into?
I never got into the Sopranos,but our parents did.
What about, like Charmed?
I never got into Charmed.
I never got into Buffy.
Yeah, that was the other one.
What?
There's another one, likeVeronica Mars Never got into it,
like, of course, I knew whatthey were, but I just never
watched them On the CW.
Yeah, um, okay, those are good.
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Okay, what about?
I guess because we're on thetopic, and this is a hot topic
in my personal householdre-watching shows and movies.
Oh, winter hill and sex in thecity.
I've watched them numeroustimes.
I, I have, I can.
I used to watch how to lose aguy in 10 days.
Oh, yeah, over and over 10things I hate about you and
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Clueless from Blockbuster.
Okay, so we're doing movierewatches and I just named some
shows.
She's the man, oh God, yes, foryou.
Oh my God, yes, man.
I can't even think of any other.
I know there's so many moviesWalking Memories, a Walk to
Remember, remember, yes, manymore.
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I probably tried to block thatone now because it's so
embarrassing, but oh my god, um,for me.
Shows new girl, mindy project,schitt's creek, and I just added
in another one, damn it, anyway, those are on rotation.
My poor husband at this pointknows like he's like's, like,
why do you watch this?
Like you know it's going tohappen.
I know it's going to happen atthis point, but I would rather
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just rewatch a show than startsomething new.
With Harrison, I startedrewatching Grey's Anatomy
because it was on TV.
Grey's Anatomy is another hottake.
Never, never, started it.
I also got so guys, I think wetalked about this on another
episode back in the day, like afew months ago.
Maybe I to the point where Ihad like TV show obsessions.
(16:24):
All my Christmas list wouldalways be the DVD sets of these
shows.
My parents would always likeget them for Christmas.
For me, grey's Anatomy is oneof them.
Yeah, one Tree Hill, the Hills,the Hills, laguna Beach I
brought them down to Marylandwith me when I came to grad
school, like in a box.
I had to take them with me.
Yeah, sex in the city.
Don't know where they are.
Now I don't watch moviesanymore.
(16:46):
Sometimes I do, but like I justI don't anymore really.
But those were iconic for me,yeah, iconic.
I think I just grew up in adifferent time where it was like
that's cool, but I don't wantto pay $50.
And then now it's just on everystreaming thing.
Yeah, true, true, true.
Okay, I guess specifically inperson.
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But like scheduled work meetingsthat are like that could have
just been an email.
100% could have been an email.
Could have just been an email.
100 could have been an email.
Could have been a zoom meeting,could have been a powerpoint
that I reviewed in my own, couldhave been a walk by.
Hey, can we have a talk for asecond?
Can I chat with you?
Like?
Did we really all need to behere for like staring at each
other, listening to people talkabout things that I don't care
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about?
I don't like a small talk.
I don't like I don't care whatthe weather is.
I want to know about yourchildhood settings with people
that I don't know where everyoneelse knows each other, so I end
up in a corner by myself.
Yeah, I don't like when quote,lunch is provided and I don't
know what the provided lunch isgonna be and it ends up being
something I don't like.
Anxiety, because it happened theother day, oh my god.
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I was like, well, what is lunchgonna be?
And like I don't have time toget myself something else if I
don't like what, and it wassomething I couldn't eat, right
anyway.
Um, I was very upset becausethat was like the draw in, yeah,
and I was like all of this fornothing, I'm gonna sit and watch
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you people eat when I can't.
Truly, that's not fair.
It's not fair.
Hmm, ew, what Oat milk tasteslike cereal water.
I heard.
Oh, what did people say aboutthat as well?
We were talking about thisearlier in the week with me and
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my coworkers.
I've had oat milk like once,and I'm not a fan.
I've had it once too, but itwas in coffee so it wasn't
masked Like I didn't taste it.
We were talking about likeregular milk.
I don't do cow's milk, I doalmond milk, but I don't drink
almond milk.
Sure, it has to be in like acreamer or a smoothie.
So we then were talking abouthow people eat their cereal.
(19:01):
Um, I eat mine dry and I alwayshave, but I also sometimes will
add milk and add some sugar ontop.
This is plain cheerios, myfavorite.
Then I'll pour the milk out,just so they're wet.
Yeah, um, some people we'retalking about cereals at work.
We, we can talk about this.
So I'm a plain Cheerios gal.
I like a Kix.
(19:22):
I love Froot Loops.
But one of my coworkers, myfriend, she was just like so let
me get this straight you likeFroot Loops but you don't like
Fruity Pebbles.
I'm like correct, fruityPebbles are disgusting.
They also talk about those likecookie cereals, cookie crisps
You're literally eating cookies.
That's disgusting, so good.
And mini wheats.
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One of my other friendsco-worker.
She likes eating thoseparticular ones dry.
I feel like the remnants justget like stuck all over your
mouth.
Oh, and then another co-workerchimed in and said that they
like the oat squares.
Oh, and she was like uh, no.
And then I also like Life.
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Mm-mm, what is it?
It's Kix.
What's the other one?
Frosted Flakes?
No, rice Krispies, I love RiceKrispies.
Kix are the yellow, they'relike the corn puffs.
Yes, maybe it is just K, justkicks some thinking off K-I-X.
I love a plain Cheerio.
Disgusting If they're eatingCheerios.
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It's Honey Nut Cheerios or thepumpkin ones that they.
It's not real honey.
My friend was like you puthoney in your tea every day.
Anyway.
Now, plain Cheerios.
I used to eat them in college.
My friends would be like whatare you?
You're just eating plainCheerios in a bag.
You're weird.
It's so good.
My children grew up on plainCheerios, just like we did, and
then they stopped because theyrealized it's nasty.
Did your daughter ever eatplain Cheerios?
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Yeah, and she stopped.
My youngest had plain Cheeriosthis morning.
Okay, anyway, there's cinnamonthere.
Eat when Daisy would let us getlike the sugary cereal or Cap'n
Crunch, and that's how I knowI'm savory, because when I
mentioned this to Sarah she waslike oh yeah, like the mixed
berry Cap'n Crunch, but no, youneed like the buttery like.
(21:08):
Okay.
So in our household right nowthe other adult in the house
loves himself some cereal.
He grew up on cereal Like hecan eat it for breakfast on Jen
Dinner and he has gotten ouroldest to do that in the morning
for breakfast as well.
Like, but with milk.
Yeah, because they all lovemilk in my house and I do not.
But it's just so funny, justlike the different variations of
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cereal that we have in thehouse, because it's almost like
he's reliving his childhood.
Yeah, so it's like kind offunny, but also kind of like.
I don't want these fruitypebbles in my house.
They are disgusting.
I also love a Lucky Charm.
Ew, see, I can't with like thefruity, that's just not good to
me.
The sweet, like bleh.
I love a Rice Krispie.
Yeah, I will eat that, ofcourse, with a dash of sugar.
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So, yeah, I will eat that, ofcourse, with a dash of sugar.
Naturally, people think that'sso weird, but it makes it fizzle
and pop.
Oh, okay, I put my sugar on theplain Cheerios With milk.
That's when I do the sugar.
Oh, yeah, okay, I'm asking youthis in particular because you
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have a propensity to leanheavier one way than the other.
You make me nervous.
What is that?
Double texting, or like aback-to-back text, separating
your thoughts and texts?
Oh, I'm a back-to-back texter.
Yeah, my friend called me outon this like years ago.
Yeah, my old roommate.
She was like why do you do that?
Yeah, she's like can't you justsend me all of your thoughts in
one?
I'm like, no, I can't.
And she like used to get soirritated with me yeah, I do it
(22:43):
all the time because you sendthem as like each text is a
sentence.
Yes, when you could have justsent like a multi-sentence, then
I'm gonna have to sit there andlike okay, okay, does that
bother you?
It doesn't bother me, I justthink it's funny, like because
you really are so true to youthat that is like genuinely how
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you text.
There is no other way.
No, so I love receivingparagraphs back, yeah, but I
also don't.
I will send them.
I don't love it.
It's not only good.
Sorry guys, there's some noises, we're not aware of it.
They're looking for Kyle who'sKyle?
I don't know.
I thought you knew them.
(23:25):
No, so if it's too long for meto text, I will like audio it.
Yeah, which I will send.
Don't put it past me.
And's on a two, three minuteaudio.
I will audio you to death.
Fine, um, but sometimes textingI'm like, I don't like.
I type all day.
You can talk to text, I can, butit's.
(23:45):
I hate hearing siri read itback to me because I'm like that
is not what I said.
But luckily, like with apple,you can like it, but I'm like I,
I, what?
Yesterday or no, this morning,I asked Siri something and she
answered back and he said why is?
Why is Siri a black woman?
(24:05):
You can tell she's blackbecause you can pick.
You can pick the voice.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yes, you can, and you can pick,like the GPS voice on, like a
Garmin.
Same thing, yeah, okay, okay,these are getting interesting.
(24:28):
Crocs this says crocs are ugly,but also the most comfortable
shoes alive.
Now I don't own a pair of crocs.
Go ahead and finish talking,but my daughter has five.
I was going to say, if yourhusband slash my brother while
he's listening, love you to damndeath.
I cannot stand Crocs and adults.
I love them for my boys.
My boys have like three pairs.
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I always get my niece a pairwhen I get them a pair.
Yeah, I cannot do Crocs foradults.
I thought about getting themwhen I'm like gardening, but who
am I kidding?
I don't garden.
They are ugly.
They're so ugly but they're socute on the kids and most of my
garden's inside.
I don't even put crocs when I'mwatering inside plants.
So I don't like them for anyoneover the age of like anyone
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under the okay, from like justwalking to like maybe fifth
grade.
I need you not to be wearingthem in high school.
Okay, I know plenty of adultsthat own them and that support
them and I cannot stand them.
Yeah, I think they're gross,they're just.
I would never wear them.
But I have to let my husband bewho he is and he gets the one
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with the fur.
They're lined with fur becausehe runs cold.
So I'm like do you boo?
I say what I also cannot stand.
This must be like a stylisticthing for me, someone who
doesn't wear Crocs, when peopledon't wear them with the bar in
the back Sport mode they wearthem with the bar in the front,
like isn't the whole point forit to like catch your your heel?
Well, you can wear them bothways.
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That's why they're so ugly.
You wear them with the.
I don't know what the oppositeof sport mode is.
On sport, lazy mode, sure, likeas slippers, they're ugly, okay
.
Um, pineapple on pizza I havenever tried it, but I feel like
it's.
It would be good I had it.
It's like, fine, I feel like Iwould have to do it myself.
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I just pineapple and hamtogether.
Yeah, it's fine.
Okay, moving on, um tiktok,don't own it.
Never have, never, will.
I and one of my good friends, wewere like heavy on Vine back in
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like 2012.
Oh my god, yes, the 12 secondvideos.
I don't know if they had a timelimit.
Maybe I think they did.
I think that was the wholepoint.
Sure, I guess Loved them.
And then, when TikTok came out,I was like this is just like a
Vine wannabe.
Yeah, so I never got into it,but I understand the allure.
I hear it's popping over thereon TikTok sometimes, but the
great thing is that people justbring it on over to Instagram.
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Yes, and sometimes I get madbecause I can't view it all
because it's on TikTok.
Well, that's annoying too.
Like people will send me aTikTok and I'm like I can't
watch this Correct, so I have togo find it on YouTube or
something.
And threads it's also not onFacebook anymore.
I did a thread just to likereserve my name, but I've never
posted on there.
Very cunning, what Very cunningof you.
(27:21):
Well, I did that because Ithought you said you did that, I
did, and I was like oh well,then let me do that too.
I did because I thought we weregoing to like try to like put
our business content on there.
Then I was like no, no, this isgonna work for me.
Oh yeah, that's so funny though.
Um, daylight savings time boo,get rid of it.
Make it the like summertime allyear.
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I feel like it's been in thelineup to get rid of.
Yeah, but they've been sayingit, for I know, I know, I'm not
a fan clapping when the planelands, is it?
Is it hold on?
Is it irky?
No, what's the word?
I'm cringy, or is it wholesome?
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This reminds me of my bestfriend.
Anytime we go to the movies, Iwould clap just like everybody
else would.
When it was over, everybodyelse would.
She was not clapping and she'dbe like do you clap when you're
done reading a book?
Oh, my gosh, that was like goodpoint.
So it's the same thing.
It's like yay, we landed.
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I don't think I've ever been ina movie where people clapped at
the end.
Maybe I have.
It's just been a while, but Idon't, I didn't know that was,
but I just.
That hot take for me has alwaysbeen something I've never
forgotten.
Yeah, I, I think I've only beenon one plane where they clapped
when we land, and it was.
Was it because it was like arough flight?
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No, it was Puerto Rico, and Ithink that that's just like a
cultural thing.
So, yeah, we were all like,yeah, I'm just happy I'm on
planes on this ground.
Yeah, that too I thought I justsaw a cheerio.
It's a, it's a nail.
You did not just see a cheerio.
We don't have cheerios here.
What a shame.
Um, okay, do you have anyothers?
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Yes, I'm thinking so.
If you can look at my shoes, itlooks like I have no socks on,
but I have PEDS on.
So what's the hot take?
Shoes without socks?
Yeah, I don't think that that'sappropriate after a certain age
, right, they just start to getsmelly, right.
So I have PEDS on, yeah, butyou can't.
They're no-see.
That's fine, which I love theallure, yeah.
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Um, remember back when I usedto put baby powder in your shoes
?
Oh, yeah, but now baby powderapparently causes cancer, yeah,
or talcum powder, talcum,whatever.
Um, for a certain age, it'sjust unacceptable to be wearing
um shoes.
Well, I do sometimes, and I havechanged my ways.
I used to wear flats with nosocks.
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Um, I wear the pads now.
Yeah, it's hard, though,because you have to have the
right, the right one, or that itshows, and then it just looks
dumb, stupid.
Yeah, I also wear heels without.
Well, that's different though,because the inside is leather,
that's true.
And like.
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Yeah, they probably still getsticky.
But I also don't wear stockings.
Some women do, so that's nottechnically.
Barefoot, I feel like.
Or tights Tights with like onlyif it goes with the outfit.
I don't wear them as anecessity.
I hate tights Like.
I'll wear a skirt without tightIf it fits.
The vibe like a fall vibe likewe're going to Vermont this fall
, like maybe we'll do, but it'snot necessary.
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I hate tights and stockings.
I always have, I've worn them,obviously, but some people like
thrive in them.
They just love them.
Because this coming up to bethis time of year, they wear
them all the time.
I will literally wear dressesand skirts without them for the
longest time.
Oh yeah, I will freeze my legsto death.
A booty the longest time?
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Oh yeah, I will freeze my legsto death.
Um, a booty or tall boots, Ilike both, but that's not a hot
take.
But I like booty the shoe, Ilike a healed booty.
I mean both, I don't have aproblem with either.
Do you like mules?
What mules?
No, you don't.
I think I'm trying to get usedto liking them.
No, why don't you like them?
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Because they're just likehealed clogs.
Okay, but they don't all have.
They have actual healed mules.
No, you don't like them?
No, okay, I don't.
Even I don't like the drinkeither.
I just like the cup that itcomes in.
What cup?
Oh, like the, the rose gold.
Like copper?
Yes, I do like that, but Idon't like a Me either.
What's it called Moscow Mule?
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Yeah, yuck, what.
What Is that like someone'salarm or something, or a camera,
I don't know?
Or it keeps making that sound,maybe someone's alarm or
(32:02):
something or a camera, I don'tknow.
It keeps like making that sound, maybe it is.
I thought it was maybe a bird,like someone's lost parrot, like
a mating call.
Oh my gosh, wait, speaking oflost parrots, monique and
t'challa are back from realhousewives of potomac.
She found him.
Yeah, she found him, and heflew back home.
The trailer just came out.
It's.
It looks so funny you have towatch.
Was she talking with him?
Yeah, like he was on her fingerbecause one of the girls on
there, um, did you meet stacy?
(32:24):
Did you watch last season?
Yes, with uh, with herboyfriend.
Yeah, tj, yeah, that's right.
So are they still together?
No, did you watch?
No, I don't watch reunions.
Oh, my God, you have to getinto reunions.
Did they break up?
There's a whole thing about howTJ didn't come to the reunion.
There's a whole thing aboutlike, why weren't you here to
support me?
Like the husband's called him,like why aren't you here?
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And he's like.
I think he basically said likeshe hired, hired me to like be
her boyfriend and then neverpaid me.
So then not just that, but hewas mad that he never got paid,
yeah.
So then they like confrontedher and she was like no, that's
not true.
Like we were in a genuine like,blah, blah.
So then in the trailer, ashleywas like I heard, stacy was like
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going after chris samuels,monique samuels, ex-husband, and
then it pans to monique witht'challa on her finger and she's
like, when it comes to myex-husband, like.
Then it pans to monique witht'challa on her finger and she's
like, when it comes to myex-husband, like no, we're not
doing that.
So I am very excited.
Salt lake city, which I just gotintroduced to, comes back in a
couple weeks.
I just got introduced, it's sogood.
I watched all five seasons likewithin the past three weeks,
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obsessed.
And then potomac comes.
Do you now want to go to saltlake city?
No, yeah, yeah, no.
I just like the drama.
Yeah, um.
And then Secret Wives of MormonLives.
Did you get into that?
No, you have to get into that.
I'm good, you have to.
There's certain reality TV thatI just won't dabble in.
It's the same thing asHousewives.
I don't know.
I just had to change the title,I guess, because there's
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already a real.
Oh, my friend, my co-worker, myfriend was telling me she
binge-watched one weekend, acouple weekends ago, there she
had gone because her friend wasgetting engaged.
Like a bunch of people gottogether and in the hotel room,
like the night before they'regonna see the rest of their
friends, they binge-watchedhunting wives.
Oh oh, I thought it was a movie.
It's a show yes, it was onnetflix, okay, and like the
whole premise is like um, amurder and like essentially it's
(34:20):
not.
It's not okay.
So people are sleeping withother people, like that's out of
their marriage, but it's thewomen sleeping with each other
and like it's just she's like.
It is just like.
She's like I will keep watchingit for you guys so I can like
report back, but she's like it's.
She's like the plot was justlike everywhere.
Yeah, she's like it was so hardto get into, but she's like we
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binge watched it and she wasjust like.
She was like trying to tell us,like what it was about and
she's like I just don't evenknow what to say.
She was just like going allover the place because the plot
was all over the place.
Oh my gosh, yes, I read the book.
Apparently there's a secondseason.
I think I read the book.
Apparently, there's a secondseason.
I think you read the book.
There's a book.
I think so, isn't it whatthat's based off of?
You would know better than I do, I'm pretty sure, unless I'm
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thinking of something else.
Yeah, it's on Netflix, but itreminded me it's the same day
she told us about.
It was the day after you hadDM'd me that house in Lake
Norman.
Oh yeah, like, oh, my sistertold me about this.
I was like they're in NorthCarolina.
She goes no, I think they're inTexas.
So I don't know if that, maybethat was the second season.
They're going to be in NorthCarolina.
Oh yeah, well, they could havejust filmed it there and called
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it Texas, true, True, but in theshow they're in Texas.
Yeah, I was like.
I was like that's my sister atour bachelorette party and she's
like, like, I think they werein Texas.
I was like, oh well, maybe itwas something else.
My sister sat by, yes,helicopter, yes, I think that's
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it.
I mean, send us your hot takes.
Please do tell us the trendsthat you think are stupid.
And if you're a trend chaser,we still love you, because we
have fallen for the trap toomany times that I can get on
board with yes, but I'm gonna gograb my niece for a few minutes
and then leave and then go backto being a mom On this very
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long weekend.
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This is your other co-host,tawana Page.
We're coming to you live fromCherie Page Barber's deck,
correct?
We're going to start this oneoff with a quick round of this
or that.
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Yay, all right.
Um, sweet or savory.
What does savory mean?
Savory is like.
I explain it as more like salty, like heavier, like sweet is
maybe like fruity desserts, andsavory might be like a caramel
or like a chocolatey, like arich okay, I don't know.
(01:31):
Maybe a savory.
I think I'm more savory too,like for breakfast.
I can't do like french toastwith fruit like it has to.
No, I can't do that.
Sausage Like, yeah, yeah, likethe real breakfast.
Yeah, dining out or home-cookedmeal oh, so I can do both,
though depending on the mood.
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Sometimes I like crave stuffthat I know we can make at home.
I think, yeah, I think it alsodepends on the mood.
Yes, I also crave when otherpeople cook for me.
Like I eat out of the house,yeah, I enjoy dining out, but I
think I enjoy dining out becauseit happens less often than
cooking at home.
Yeah, so it's like a luxury.
Yeah, huh.
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Cardio or weights, cardio orstrength training that's so
interesting.
I like both.
I like sometimes both in thesame instance.
I think I tend to do morecardio.
Like Zumba, yes, but I feelbetter after I do strength
training.
Like it makes me feel strong,okay, like a badass.
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Yes, um, okay.
Phone call or text messagePlease text me all day.
Don't call me.
Don't call my phone.
I won't answer.
Don't call my phone, all right.
Last one oh, I thought this wasgoing to be Dang.
Hold on.
Oh, okay.
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Game night or movie night I fallasleep into movie night, so
probably game night.
I love the concept of a movienight.
I know I can't wait to do itwith Sage.
But, yeah, game night, I'mgoing to throw in one more.
Tacos, or burgers Tacos, getout of my face, love tacos.
Yes, so much, okay.
What are we talking about today,guys?
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We're talking about First.
Welcome to another episode,guys.
Thank you so much for joining.
We're talking about some quiteunpopular opinions.
Yeah, that we have aboutsocietal norms.
I put norms in quotes.
Yeah, we may or may not giveour reason, but we're just going
to let you know.
Okay, and please don't come forus.
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This is our opinions.
Yeah, and this is our podcast,whatever we want.
Thank you all right.
Would you want to start with theone that you had in mind?
What inspired this episode?
Um, what inspired this wasapparently, it was a big week in
the entertainment world.
Um, someone named taylor swiftgot engaged.
Who is her?
Is it?
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What's his name?
Travis Kelsey, right, travis?
I continued on about my day.
I didn't even know whathappened until I came back to my
desk and my coworkers told me.
I was like, oh great, I don'tcare.
Yeah, I don't care, I reallydon't.
I couldn't look at my Instagramwhen it happened Tuesday,
monday, without seeing somethingabout her and him.
(04:27):
I heard, the ring is not thatattractive.
I saw a glimpse of it on CNNand I just kept scrolling.
It's attractive to her.
She's wearing it Whatever.
It's just not newsworthy to me.
No, I mean, I liked her back inthe day, first album yeah, I
think it's just because of allthe hype that's around it.
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Yeah, I'm, which irritates me.
Yeah, just feels very trendy.
Yes, and that's one of ourissues too that people.
There are certain people outthere that just follow every
trend and it's not authentic tome, because trends obviously
change.
Swifties don't come for us.
No, like it's our opinion.
Press, you don't stop, youdon't need to cancel us, um,
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because I'm I'm not saying thatswifties are trendy, but it
feels like the way that sheengages.
Do you think we have a lot ofswifty listeners?
Probably?
I feel like a lot of people areSwifties and like we wouldn't
know, true?
So, because sometimes I'm likesurprised by it, I'm like, oh,
okay, yeah, okay.
(05:32):
So, yeah, I'm with you on thatone.
How about?
All right, you're laughing.
Yeah, these are good ones, okay, I'm just trying to figure out
where to start.
She's using she's using ourgirl chat gpt.
Yes, um, so I don't mind themif I'm being responded to.
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I hate being ignored.
Yeah, um, sometimes in thegroup chat there's a lot of
people.
It's like sometimes like yourline won't be responded to
because there's just so manypeople.
Yeah, but then also, I don'tknow if I don't know why apple
does this, but like I will namea group chat and then, like the
same people in that group chatsay someone else like starts a
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new chat with the same people,apple will like create it as a
new text and not continuation.
Oh, and I'm trying to figureout how to merge.
I don't know if you can,because it drives me.
I was like, did it?
Was someone added or taken away?
I was like, why are these twoseparate?
They're the same exact group ofpeople.
Weird, like that happened lastweek and I'm like, why didn't
they just go to the chat that Ihad it named?
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It's no one.
No member membership change.
It's all the same people.
Weird, maybe their numberchanged?
No, every, it still comes up as, like the people's numbers like
nothing.
It's so weird and it's not thefirst time it's happened and
that really bothers me.
I it depends on who's in thegroup chat.
Well, that too, um, butsometimes, if, if, like, the
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group chat is lit and I havenothing to add, I will mute the
group chat.
Just come back later to open itto get rid of.
It's almost like replying on anemail, like I wish there was a
kind way in an email to be like,please, like there is.
You can be, like, please removeme.
But like in a group chat, youcan just like kindly remove
yourself.
You don't have need someoneelse to do that for you, or you
can mute it.
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Yeah, but a smaller group chat,and if it feels like relevant or
like I have something to add,I'm all for it.
The more intimate ones I'm downfor.
But when it's like 15 peoplefrom your family and like nobody
knows what's going on and likeI'm not responding, I agree, we
have some with like some peoplein our family Like well, I'll
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label them on my phone likecousin, like cousin chats, or
like I have stuff from peoplefrom work and it's like just
like different groups.
But I also get irritated whenpeople don't respond in the
group chat.
I know some people aren't asbig texters as some are.
Yeah, some like they justthey're just bad at texting and
that's like everybody'sanswering.
But then it's like a textetiquette thing.
Okay, well, that is actually onhere too interesting.
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I don't like being ignored.
I also don't like when peopleignore in the group chat or
ignore my text messages, whichis me being ignored.
So the next hot take agreed ornot?
Texting back immediately isn'trequired.
It depends who it is like.
If I'm having an active,engaging conversation with you
and then you immediately stopengaging, I'm gonna wonder if
you got hit by a bus orsomething.
Yeah, I mean, I I don't feellike texting back is immediately
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.
I was gonna say texting back isrequired, please text back.
Or if like, if you're asking aquestion, if you're at the store
, we'll then call.
I guess you can call them, butI also will still send the text.
I think it depends on thedynamic of the relationship.
We were just discussing this inanother context recently that
like you don't know what peoplehave going on, one thousand
percent going through somethinglike yeah, you just don't know,
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um, but I think I for myself amlike, let me just quickly
respond, like I don't want to berude or make them think that I
forgot or whatever.
So I put more pressure onmyself to respond immediately.
But when it comes to theexpectation, I think, especially
with my friends, like I justknow I'm not, I might not hear
back right away, and that's fine.
I mean, yeah, it's fine, butyou've already known that and
(09:16):
they might not hear back from meright away.
Yeah, I don't always text backimmediately.
Um, I will let things sit,maybe like a few days or like a
day or so, because, again, we'reall busy.
I'm a mom, I'm not gonnarespond to you right away
sometimes.
Sometimes I will, um, but I dolove when people like this
doesn't bother.
I think it's hilarious when,like, you text somebody and like
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it's been like a few hoursmaybe, and then you see them
active on social media andyou're just like, wait a second.
I just think that's.
I don't get offended, I juststart laughing.
People get offended by that.
Yeah, I thought you were gonnasay when you text someone and
then they like take a week or soto respond and just respond
like well, you have some peoplelike that in your life, I know,
but like not even acknowledging,just like, oh, they just
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completely answers the same guyhasn't been.
That cracks me up.
That cracks me up.
Um, that cracks me up.
All right, some of these arereally just like offensive.
Oh, in my opinion, oh, okay,pumpkin spice season is
overhyped, guys.
It is.
It's August 29th today.
Yeah, I believe Dunkin startedspilling out this PSL this week,
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last week, last week.
It's a money grab.
You're a billion dollarbusiness, but they do every year
because it works, but they'resmart.
It's bullshit.
It's not even september yet.
It's fall outside.
It's a cool 60 65 degrees.
Right now it is 75 degrees.
Okay, this morning it was 60degrees.
We're not into the morninganymore.
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I'm just saying I'm sorry, guys, I am, by birth, a fall lady.
I'm october.
You should be biased, but mymother said on the day I was
born it was like a second summer.
It was like 80 degrees when Iwas born.
Okay, um, I don't do fall untillike september 23rd.
That's wild to me.
It's not wild.
You considered my wedding asummer wedding.
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Yeah, it was the 14th.
No, no, no, actually I didn'teven think about it.
But now you said that it's been14th, it's still summer.
It was a fall.
We were having this debate withthe co-worker because she's
getting married next year andshe was gonna make it september
12th, but then she had to changeit.
It's still in september, butshe's like.
I was like oh, you're a summerwedding.
She's like 20th september it'sfall.
She's like that's wild.
She's like that's wild to me.
The whole month of September isnot fall to you.
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I'm like it's not when you hitdouble digits, like September
10th and up, at least in my mind, for weddings colors, check a
calendar.
Okay, september 14th, it was afall wedding.
Check a calendar.
Our colors were burgundy anddark gray and they looked
fabulous Because it was fallthemed.
Moving on, check a calendar.
Boneless wings are justglorified chicken nuggets.
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They are Disagreed.
I love a good boneless wing.
Go to McDonald's.
I don't like to eat wings.
Bone-in wings I love it.
I love wings, but I like it'slike a true carnivore when I eat
them.
I don't like getting my facemessy, my hand like it's like
under your nails.
No, so I use gloves when Guys,guys or like a fork, guys, guys,
a fork and wings.
You've got to see this in liveaction because it's real.
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So, boneless wings, Iappreciate that you can just eat
with a fork and not have tolike maneuver around the bone
marrow.
So sparkling water tastes likeTV static.
Chat GPT is really coming forme.
How do we know what TV statictastes like?
Chat GPT?
I guess what you would imagineit tastes like.
I love sparkling water.
I love a seltzer.
(12:25):
I love the carbonation, thefizzing.
We grew up on seltzer water.
I love it.
We also had regular water, guys, but don't come for us or our
parents Interesting.
This is like it's a deepsocietal norms.
Yeah, but some of these arejust like stupid.
(12:48):
Oh, I don't like cream cheese.
Okay, I love cream.
I do a bagel with butter ornothing, so good, it's just.
Oh, I also don't do cottagecheese.
That's disgusting.
And the people who dress it upwith like mustard and like I get
that.
You think it's good.
I don't think that that makesit better.
I know some people that put itin their eggs.
(13:08):
I'm like, oh, you can't tasteit.
I'm like that's disgusting.
I know, and also people thatliterally eat it out of the jar
with a spoon and I want to notlook at them when they're doing
that.
No, I can't, my stomach can'thandle it.
Okay, this might really get ussome hate.
What about some like classicshows that people love?
That you were kind of like?
(13:30):
First one that comes to mindfor me is friends.
So I had plenty of friends.
One of my, my best friend inparticular, loved friends and
used to fall asleep to like thedvd set every night.
I think that I I just never havegiven it a full sit down.
I've seen a few episodes hereand there Same, but I know
(13:52):
enough just from social mediaand people in our lives liking
it.
I know all the characters, thequotes are everywhere.
I just don't have any interestin going back and doing a deep
dive Same, that doesn't feelnecessary to me.
Never got into Dawson's Creek.
Oh I, interesting, going backand doing a deep dive.
That doesn't feel.
Never got into Dawson's Creek.
Oh, I loved Dawson's Creek, butI didn't watch it at the time.
I went to the library and gotthe little box sets that you
could rent.
(14:12):
Yeah, I love a One Tree Hill.
I'm a fan of One Tree Hill.
That was a good one.
I loved Laguna, yeah.
Um, I never got into Survivor.
No, or what was the other one?
When you like, was the showlike you lost weight and you
found love or something?
The Biggest Loser?
Yes, I never got into thateither.
No, I love a real world, oh,yeah.
Oh my gosh, not the challenge,but the real world.
(14:34):
I like wanted to be on one ofthose so badly.
What else did I never get into?
I never got into the Sopranos,but our parents did.
What about, like Charmed?
I never got into Charmed.
I never got into Buffy.
Yeah, that was the other one.
What?
There's another one, likeVeronica Mars Never got into it,
like, of course, I knew whatthey were, but I just never
watched them On the CW.
Yeah, um, okay, those are good.
(14:58):
Okay, what about?
I guess because we're on thetopic, and this is a hot topic
in my personal householdre-watching shows and movies.
Oh, winter hill and sex in thecity.
I've watched them numeroustimes.
I, I have, I can.
I used to watch how to lose aguy in 10 days.
Oh, yeah, over and over 10things I hate about you and
(15:20):
Clueless from Blockbuster.
Okay, so we're doing movierewatches and I just named some
shows.
She's the man, oh God, yes, foryou.
Oh my God, yes, man.
I can't even think of any other.
I know there's so many moviesWalking Memories, a Walk to
Remember, remember, yes, manymore.
(15:42):
I probably tried to block thatone now because it's so
embarrassing, but oh my god, um,for me.
Shows new girl, mindy project,schitt's creek, and I just added
in another one, damn it, anyway, those are on rotation.
My poor husband at this pointknows like he's like's, like,
why do you watch this?
Like you know it's going tohappen.
I know it's going to happen atthis point, but I would rather
(16:04):
just rewatch a show than startsomething new.
With Harrison, I startedrewatching Grey's Anatomy
because it was on TV.
Grey's Anatomy is another hottake.
Never, never, started it.
I also got so guys, I think wetalked about this on another
episode back in the day, like afew months ago.
Maybe I to the point where Ihad like TV show obsessions.
(16:24):
All my Christmas list wouldalways be the DVD sets of these
shows.
My parents would always likeget them for Christmas.
For me, grey's Anatomy is oneof them.
Yeah, one Tree Hill, the Hills,the Hills, laguna Beach I
brought them down to Marylandwith me when I came to grad
school, like in a box.
I had to take them with me.
Yeah, sex in the city.
Don't know where they are.
Now I don't watch moviesanymore.
(16:46):
Sometimes I do, but like I justI don't anymore really.
But those were iconic for me,yeah, iconic.
I think I just grew up in adifferent time where it was like
that's cool, but I don't wantto pay $50.
And then now it's just on everystreaming thing.
Yeah, true, true, true.
Okay, I guess specifically inperson.
(17:13):
But like scheduled work meetingsthat are like that could have
just been an email.
100% could have been an email.
Could have just been an email.
100 could have been an email.
Could have been a zoom meeting,could have been a powerpoint
that I reviewed in my own, couldhave been a walk by.
Hey, can we have a talk for asecond?
Can I chat with you?
Like?
Did we really all need to behere for like staring at each
other, listening to people talkabout things that I don't care
(17:35):
about?
I don't like a small talk.
I don't like I don't care whatthe weather is.
I want to know about yourchildhood settings with people
that I don't know where everyoneelse knows each other, so I end
up in a corner by myself.
Yeah, I don't like when quote,lunch is provided and I don't
know what the provided lunch isgonna be and it ends up being
something I don't like.
Anxiety, because it happened theother day, oh my god.
(17:58):
I was like, well, what is lunchgonna be?
And like I don't have time toget myself something else if I
don't like what, and it wassomething I couldn't eat, right
anyway.
Um, I was very upset becausethat was like the draw in, yeah,
and I was like all of this fornothing, I'm gonna sit and watch
(18:18):
you people eat when I can't.
Truly, that's not fair.
It's not fair.
Hmm, ew, what Oat milk tasteslike cereal water.
I heard.
Oh, what did people say aboutthat as well?
We were talking about thisearlier in the week with me and
(18:39):
my coworkers.
I've had oat milk like once,and I'm not a fan.
I've had it once too, but itwas in coffee so it wasn't
masked Like I didn't taste it.
We were talking about likeregular milk.
I don't do cow's milk, I doalmond milk, but I don't drink
almond milk.
Sure, it has to be in like acreamer or a smoothie.
So we then were talking abouthow people eat their cereal.
(19:01):
Um, I eat mine dry and I alwayshave, but I also sometimes will
add milk and add some sugar ontop.
This is plain cheerios, myfavorite.
Then I'll pour the milk out,just so they're wet.
Yeah, um, some people we'retalking about cereals at work.
We, we can talk about this.
So I'm a plain Cheerios gal.
I like a Kix.
(19:22):
I love Froot Loops.
But one of my coworkers, myfriend, she was just like so let
me get this straight you likeFroot Loops but you don't like
Fruity Pebbles.
I'm like correct, fruityPebbles are disgusting.
They also talk about those likecookie cereals, cookie crisps
You're literally eating cookies.
That's disgusting, so good.
And mini wheats.
(19:43):
One of my other friendsco-worker.
She likes eating thoseparticular ones dry.
I feel like the remnants justget like stuck all over your
mouth.
Oh, and then another co-workerchimed in and said that they
like the oat squares.
Oh, and she was like uh, no.
And then I also like Life.
(20:04):
Mm-mm, what is it?
It's Kix.
What's the other one?
Frosted Flakes?
No, rice Krispies, I love RiceKrispies.
Kix are the yellow, they'relike the corn puffs.
Yes, maybe it is just K, justkicks some thinking off K-I-X.
I love a plain Cheerio.
Disgusting If they're eatingCheerios.
(20:26):
It's Honey Nut Cheerios or thepumpkin ones that they.
It's not real honey.
My friend was like you puthoney in your tea every day.
Anyway.
Now, plain Cheerios.
I used to eat them in college.
My friends would be like whatare you?
You're just eating plainCheerios in a bag.
You're weird.
It's so good.
My children grew up on plainCheerios, just like we did, and
then they stopped because theyrealized it's nasty.
Did your daughter ever eatplain Cheerios?
(20:48):
Yeah, and she stopped.
My youngest had plain Cheeriosthis morning.
Okay, anyway, there's cinnamonthere.
Eat when Daisy would let us getlike the sugary cereal or Cap'n
Crunch, and that's how I knowI'm savory, because when I
mentioned this to Sarah she waslike oh yeah, like the mixed
berry Cap'n Crunch, but no, youneed like the buttery like.
(21:08):
Okay.
So in our household right nowthe other adult in the house
loves himself some cereal.
He grew up on cereal Like hecan eat it for breakfast on Jen
Dinner and he has gotten ouroldest to do that in the morning
for breakfast as well.
Like, but with milk.
Yeah, because they all lovemilk in my house and I do not.
But it's just so funny, justlike the different variations of
(21:29):
cereal that we have in thehouse, because it's almost like
he's reliving his childhood.
Yeah, so it's like kind offunny, but also kind of like.
I don't want these fruitypebbles in my house.
They are disgusting.
I also love a Lucky Charm.
Ew, see, I can't with like thefruity, that's just not good to
me.
The sweet, like bleh.
I love a Rice Krispie.
Yeah, I will eat that, ofcourse, with a dash of sugar.
(21:54):
So, yeah, I will eat that, ofcourse, with a dash of sugar.
Naturally, people think that'sso weird, but it makes it fizzle
and pop.
Oh, okay, I put my sugar on theplain Cheerios With milk.
That's when I do the sugar.
Oh, yeah, okay, I'm asking youthis in particular because you
(22:19):
have a propensity to leanheavier one way than the other.
You make me nervous.
What is that?
Double texting, or like aback-to-back text, separating
your thoughts and texts?
Oh, I'm a back-to-back texter.
Yeah, my friend called me outon this like years ago.
Yeah, my old roommate.
She was like why do you do that?
Yeah, she's like can't you justsend me all of your thoughts in
one?
I'm like, no, I can't.
And she like used to get soirritated with me yeah, I do it
(22:43):
all the time because you sendthem as like each text is a
sentence.
Yes, when you could have justsent like a multi-sentence, then
I'm gonna have to sit there andlike okay, okay, does that
bother you?
It doesn't bother me, I justthink it's funny, like because
you really are so true to youthat that is like genuinely how
(23:04):
you text.
There is no other way.
No, so I love receivingparagraphs back, yeah, but I
also don't.
I will send them.
I don't love it.
It's not only good.
Sorry guys, there's some noises, we're not aware of it.
They're looking for Kyle who'sKyle?
I don't know.
I thought you knew them.
(23:25):
No, so if it's too long for meto text, I will like audio it.
Yeah, which I will send.
Don't put it past me.
And's on a two, three minuteaudio.
I will audio you to death.
Fine, um, but sometimes textingI'm like, I don't like.
I type all day.
You can talk to text, I can, butit's.
(23:45):
I hate hearing siri read itback to me because I'm like that
is not what I said.
But luckily, like with apple,you can like it, but I'm like I,
I, what?
Yesterday or no, this morning,I asked Siri something and she
answered back and he said why is?
Why is Siri a black woman?
(24:05):
You can tell she's blackbecause you can pick.
You can pick the voice.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yes, you can, and you can pick,like the GPS voice on, like a
Garmin.
Same thing, yeah, okay, okay,these are getting interesting.
(24:28):
Crocs this says crocs are ugly,but also the most comfortable
shoes alive.
Now I don't own a pair of crocs.
Go ahead and finish talking,but my daughter has five.
I was going to say, if yourhusband slash my brother while
he's listening, love you to damndeath.
I cannot stand Crocs and adults.
I love them for my boys.
My boys have like three pairs.
(24:48):
I always get my niece a pairwhen I get them a pair.
Yeah, I cannot do Crocs foradults.
I thought about getting themwhen I'm like gardening, but who
am I kidding?
I don't garden.
They are ugly.
They're so ugly but they're socute on the kids and most of my
garden's inside.
I don't even put crocs when I'mwatering inside plants.
So I don't like them for anyoneover the age of like anyone
(25:13):
under the okay, from like justwalking to like maybe fifth
grade.
I need you not to be wearingthem in high school.
Okay, I know plenty of adultsthat own them and that support
them and I cannot stand them.
Yeah, I think they're gross,they're just.
I would never wear them.
But I have to let my husband bewho he is and he gets the one
(25:35):
with the fur.
They're lined with fur becausehe runs cold.
So I'm like do you boo?
I say what I also cannot stand.
This must be like a stylisticthing for me, someone who
doesn't wear Crocs, when peopledon't wear them with the bar in
the back Sport mode they wearthem with the bar in the front,
like isn't the whole point forit to like catch your your heel?
Well, you can wear them bothways.
(25:56):
That's why they're so ugly.
You wear them with the.
I don't know what the oppositeof sport mode is.
On sport, lazy mode, sure, likeas slippers, they're ugly, okay
.
Um, pineapple on pizza I havenever tried it, but I feel like
it's.
It would be good I had it.
It's like, fine, I feel like Iwould have to do it myself.
(26:16):
I just pineapple and hamtogether.
Yeah, it's fine.
Okay, moving on, um tiktok,don't own it.
Never have, never, will.
I and one of my good friends, wewere like heavy on Vine back in
(26:38):
like 2012.
Oh my god, yes, the 12 secondvideos.
I don't know if they had a timelimit.
Maybe I think they did.
I think that was the wholepoint.
Sure, I guess Loved them.
And then, when TikTok came out,I was like this is just like a
Vine wannabe.
Yeah, so I never got into it,but I understand the allure.
I hear it's popping over thereon TikTok sometimes, but the
great thing is that people justbring it on over to Instagram.
(27:00):
Yes, and sometimes I get madbecause I can't view it all
because it's on TikTok.
Well, that's annoying too.
Like people will send me aTikTok and I'm like I can't
watch this Correct, so I have togo find it on YouTube or
something.
And threads it's also not onFacebook anymore.
I did a thread just to likereserve my name, but I've never
posted on there.
Very cunning, what Very cunningof you.
(27:21):
Well, I did that because Ithought you said you did that, I
did, and I was like oh well,then let me do that too.
I did because I thought we weregoing to like try to like put
our business content on there.
Then I was like no, no, this isgonna work for me.
Oh yeah, that's so funny though.
Um, daylight savings time boo,get rid of it.
Make it the like summertime allyear.
(27:42):
I feel like it's been in thelineup to get rid of.
Yeah, but they've been sayingit, for I know, I know, I'm not
a fan clapping when the planelands, is it?
Is it hold on?
Is it irky?
No, what's the word?
I'm cringy, or is it wholesome?
(28:03):
This reminds me of my bestfriend.
Anytime we go to the movies, Iwould clap just like everybody
else would.
When it was over, everybodyelse would.
She was not clapping and she'dbe like do you clap when you're
done reading a book?
Oh, my gosh, that was like goodpoint.
So it's the same thing.
It's like yay, we landed.
(28:25):
I don't think I've ever been ina movie where people clapped at
the end.
Maybe I have.
It's just been a while, but Idon't, I didn't know that was,
but I just.
That hot take for me has alwaysbeen something I've never
forgotten.
Yeah, I, I think I've only beenon one plane where they clapped
when we land, and it was.
Was it because it was like arough flight?
(28:45):
No, it was Puerto Rico, and Ithink that that's just like a
cultural thing.
So, yeah, we were all like,yeah, I'm just happy I'm on
planes on this ground.
Yeah, that too I thought I justsaw a cheerio.
It's a, it's a nail.
You did not just see a cheerio.
We don't have cheerios here.
What a shame.
Um, okay, do you have anyothers?
(29:15):
Yes, I'm thinking so.
If you can look at my shoes, itlooks like I have no socks on,
but I have PEDS on.
So what's the hot take?
Shoes without socks?
Yeah, I don't think that that'sappropriate after a certain age
, right, they just start to getsmelly, right.
So I have PEDS on, yeah, butyou can't.
They're no-see.
That's fine, which I love theallure, yeah.
(29:36):
Um, remember back when I usedto put baby powder in your shoes
?
Oh, yeah, but now baby powderapparently causes cancer, yeah,
or talcum powder, talcum,whatever.
Um, for a certain age, it'sjust unacceptable to be wearing
um shoes.
Well, I do sometimes, and I havechanged my ways.
I used to wear flats with nosocks.
(29:57):
Um, I wear the pads now.
Yeah, it's hard, though,because you have to have the
right, the right one, or that itshows, and then it just looks
dumb, stupid.
Yeah, I also wear heels without.
Well, that's different though,because the inside is leather,
that's true.
And like.
(30:18):
Yeah, they probably still getsticky.
But I also don't wear stockings.
Some women do, so that's nottechnically.
Barefoot, I feel like.
Or tights Tights with like onlyif it goes with the outfit.
I don't wear them as anecessity.
I hate tights Like.
I'll wear a skirt without tightIf it fits.
The vibe like a fall vibe likewe're going to Vermont this fall
, like maybe we'll do, but it'snot necessary.
(30:38):
I hate tights and stockings.
I always have, I've worn them,obviously, but some people like
thrive in them.
They just love them.
Because this coming up to bethis time of year, they wear
them all the time.
I will literally wear dressesand skirts without them for the
longest time.
Oh yeah, I will freeze my legsto death.
A booty the longest time?
(31:00):
Oh yeah, I will freeze my legsto death.
Um, a booty or tall boots, Ilike both, but that's not a hot
take.
But I like booty the shoe, Ilike a healed booty.
I mean both, I don't have aproblem with either.
Do you like mules?
What mules?
No, you don't.
I think I'm trying to get usedto liking them.
No, why don't you like them?
(31:21):
Because they're just likehealed clogs.
Okay, but they don't all have.
They have actual healed mules.
No, you don't like them?
No, okay, I don't.
Even I don't like the drinkeither.
I just like the cup that itcomes in.
What cup?
Oh, like the, the rose gold.
Like copper?
Yes, I do like that, but Idon't like a Me either.
What's it called Moscow Mule?
(31:42):
Yeah, yuck, what.
What Is that like someone'salarm or something, or a camera,
I don't know?
Or it keeps making that sound,maybe someone's alarm or
(32:02):
something or a camera, I don'tknow.
It keeps like making that sound, maybe it is.
I thought it was maybe a bird,like someone's lost parrot, like
a mating call.
Oh my gosh, wait, speaking oflost parrots, monique and
t'challa are back from realhousewives of potomac.
She found him.
Yeah, she found him, and heflew back home.
The trailer just came out.
It's.
It looks so funny you have towatch.
Was she talking with him?
Yeah, like he was on her fingerbecause one of the girls on
there, um, did you meet stacy?
(32:24):
Did you watch last season?
Yes, with uh, with herboyfriend.
Yeah, tj, yeah, that's right.
So are they still together?
No, did you watch?
No, I don't watch reunions.
Oh, my God, you have to getinto reunions.
Did they break up?
There's a whole thing about howTJ didn't come to the reunion.
There's a whole thing aboutlike, why weren't you here to
support me?
Like the husband's called him,like why aren't you here?
(32:46):
And he's like.
I think he basically said likeshe hired, hired me to like be
her boyfriend and then neverpaid me.
So then not just that, but hewas mad that he never got paid,
yeah.
So then they like confrontedher and she was like no, that's
not true.
Like we were in a genuine like,blah, blah.
So then in the trailer, ashleywas like I heard, stacy was like
(33:09):
going after chris samuels,monique samuels, ex-husband, and
then it pans to monique witht'challa on her finger and she's
like, when it comes to myex-husband, like.
Then it pans to monique witht'challa on her finger and she's
like, when it comes to myex-husband, like no, we're not
doing that.
So I am very excited.
Salt lake city, which I just gotintroduced to, comes back in a
couple weeks.
I just got introduced, it's sogood.
I watched all five seasons likewithin the past three weeks,
(33:31):
obsessed.
And then potomac comes.
Do you now want to go to saltlake city?
No, yeah, yeah, no.
I just like the drama.
Yeah, um.
And then Secret Wives of MormonLives.
Did you get into that?
No, you have to get into that.
I'm good, you have to.
There's certain reality TV thatI just won't dabble in.
It's the same thing asHousewives.
I don't know.
I just had to change the title,I guess, because there's
(33:57):
already a real.
Oh, my friend, my co-worker, myfriend was telling me she
binge-watched one weekend, acouple weekends ago, there she
had gone because her friend wasgetting engaged.
Like a bunch of people gottogether and in the hotel room,
like the night before they'regonna see the rest of their
friends, they binge-watchedhunting wives.
Oh oh, I thought it was a movie.
It's a show yes, it was onnetflix, okay, and like the
whole premise is like um, amurder and like essentially it's
(34:20):
not.
It's not okay.
So people are sleeping withother people, like that's out of
their marriage, but it's thewomen sleeping with each other
and like it's just she's like.
It is just like.
She's like I will keep watchingit for you guys so I can like
report back, but she's like it's.
She's like the plot was justlike everywhere.
Yeah, she's like it was so hardto get into, but she's like we
(34:40):
binge watched it and she wasjust like.
She was like trying to tell us,like what it was about and
she's like I just don't evenknow what to say.
She was just like going allover the place because the plot
was all over the place.
Oh my gosh, yes, I read the book.
Apparently there's a secondseason.
I think I read the book.
Apparently, there's a secondseason.
I think you read the book.
There's a book.
I think so, isn't it whatthat's based off of?
You would know better than I do, I'm pretty sure, unless I'm
(35:01):
thinking of something else.
Yeah, it's on Netflix, but itreminded me it's the same day
she told us about.
It was the day after you hadDM'd me that house in Lake
Norman.
Oh yeah, like, oh, my sistertold me about this.
I was like they're in NorthCarolina.
She goes no, I think they're inTexas.
So I don't know if that, maybethat was the second season.
They're going to be in NorthCarolina.
Oh yeah, well, they could havejust filmed it there and called
(35:22):
it Texas, true, True, but in theshow they're in Texas.
Yeah, I was like.
I was like that's my sister atour bachelorette party and she's
like, like, I think they werein Texas.
I was like, oh well, maybe itwas something else.
My sister sat by, yes,helicopter, yes, I think that's
(35:43):
it.
I mean, send us your hot takes.
Please do tell us the trendsthat you think are stupid.
And if you're a trend chaser,we still love you, because we
have fallen for the trap toomany times that I can get on
board with yes, but I'm gonna gograb my niece for a few minutes
and then leave and then go backto being a mom On this very
(36:07):
long weekend.
Yes, like, listen, review andsubscribe.
Bye, talk soon.
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All right, everyone, this wasanother episode of Turn the Page
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