October 1, 2025 • 38 mins
The library is quiet, our coffees are cooling, and we’re laughing about whether “elder” or “mature” millennial is the better title—because we sit on opposite ends of the 1981–1996 line and see the world from both sides. From a quick rose‑bud‑thorn check‑in to the sound of dial‑up ringing in our heads, this conversation maps the millennial story with heart: nostalgia that makes you grin, work realities that make you nod, and small joys that keep us going.
We unpack what it meant to come of age with answering machines, flip phones, T9 texting, and AIM away messages—then trace how that toolkit shaped today’s priorities: meaning over titles, flexibility over facetime, friendships that hold when budgets don’t. We wander through Blockbuster aisles and smartboard calibrations, heavy textbooks wrapped in grocery bags, MapQuest printouts, riding shotgun, and the ritual of buying a CD on a Tuesday just to read the liner notes in the parking lot. Music stores, iPods, LimeWire mistakes, and the mixtapes that spoke for us all become markers of a generation that learned patience, curation, and craft before everything was instant.
Between the laughs, we face the present: burnout, rising costs, family logistics, and the stubborn hope that work can be both sustainable and meaningful. We shout out Gen Z for pushing mental health forward and compare early‑ and late‑millennial lenses on trying, pivoting, and refusing to settle. If you love 90s and early‑2000s nostalgia, care about making adult life gentler, and believe community spaces like libraries still matter, you’ll feel right at home with us.
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SPEAKER_04 (00:04):
Welcome to Turn the Page Podcast.
SPEAKER_01 (00:07):
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Join us as we turn the page todifferent topics about losing
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And finding yourself again through meaningful
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endless Amazon packagedeliveries.
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So grab your favorite drink, putthe kids to bed, lace up your
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We can't wait to connect withyou.
(00:52):
This is your other co-host,Tawana Page.
SPEAKER_01 (00:57):
And we are coming to you live from a local library
making use of our beloved quietspaces and community resources.
SPEAKER_04 (01:09):
We just had lunch.
Yes.
I might move this closer so Ican make sure my voice is picked
up.
I promise you it did.
Okay.
But it always picks you uplouder anyway.
Excuse me?
It does.
Okay.
Um Rosebud Thorn.
SPEAKER_01 (01:25):
Oh, I didn't think any.
Oh, that's fine.
Through.
Oh.
Um.
I guess a rose is like having afew hours to do this because B
is home.
He's not usually home on theweekends.
Correct.
So that was nice.
(01:45):
Um.
Well, tomorrow's my anniversary.
It is one year.
Yeah, so I'll probably bere-watching videos and stuff.
Wedding anniversary.
SPEAKER_04 (02:01):
Yes, wedding anniversary.
So it's official.
Um, yeah, apparently the firstten years don't count.
SPEAKER_01 (02:07):
Yeah.
But um, yeah, I guess justgrateful for support and loved
ones and family and everybodyrallying.
It was a great day.
Uh Thorne.
I'm tired.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (02:27):
That's really it.
Go ahead there.
Um, yeah.
Rose, yes, that we were able todo this, which is really
amazing.
Thanks to our supportivepartners for allowing this to
happen because otherwise thekids would be right here.
We wouldn't be able to do this.
Um a bud.
I haven't been working out likeI had been in the past.
(02:48):
I'm trying to get back intothat, but also trying to like
reorganize some things in mylife, i.e., the basement where
the bike is.
So I don't have to look at themess while I'm working out.
Um, yeah, just trying to getsome things in order with that.
The thorn.
I'm just tired too.
And it's just this whole likeMonday to Friday thing, and only
(03:11):
having the weekend to do things,and like, yeah, my kids are in
like sports right now, which isgreat.
Soccer, and then swim onSundays, and then we have piano
on Thursday, so it's a lot.
Huh?
Stop clapping.
Sorry, she told me I stoppedclapping.
Um, so that's a lot, but this iswhat we did growing up, so kudos
(03:35):
to our parents for dealing withthis.
I'm dealing, but like goingthrough it anyway.
Yeah, we are here, we're gonnatalk about being a millennial as
two millennials.
But it's interesting because weare seven and a half years apart
and we are on one side of themillennial and on the other
(03:56):
side.
Right, two different sides.
Yes.
So let me shoot some facts outto you guys.
I'm a basic millennial.
Excuse me?
You are an elder millennial.
No, no, no.
Majure.
Mature millennial.
What do you mean basic?
I don't know.
Like, what's the word for like ayounger millennial?
A millennial?
Great.
So I'm a basic millennial.
What is basic?
(04:17):
As opposed to a maturemillennial.
There's no other specifier.
Anyway, guys, so millennials aregen Y, but we refer to ourselves
as millennials.
We are born between the years of1981 and 1996.
Or sorry, 1996.
I am 86 and you are 94.
(04:38):
So again, we are on two separateends of the line here.
Yeah.
But we seem to mesh pretty well.
Yeah.
Um, okay, so current ages itsays in 2025 is 29 to 44.
SPEAKER_01 (04:54):
Oh wow.
SPEAKER_04 (04:54):
I know that's a huge gap.
It's 15 years.
Yeah.
Is that how each generation is?
I think so.
Okay, I don't know who came upwith that.
But so we are characterized byits fluency with technology,
strong educational attainment, apreference for experience over
material possessions, and adesire for meaningful work.
They came of age during the riseof the internet and social
(05:16):
media, but significantly shapedtheir views and behaviors.
I will say that is true.
I am a hardcore fan of the 90sRB.
Yeah.
Love it so much.
And I also grew up with dial upinternet.
Yeah.
Um, because that's amazing.
(05:36):
Um, we came out with cell phonesbeing new, blackberries,
Nokia's, the chocolate, razor,razor.
The first flip phone, the thingsthat go.
Not the first camera phone, Imeant.
What are those things thatwhat's the phone called that
like you slide it up?
Sidekick?
Yeah, this or the edge.
(05:57):
I don't know what that is.
So we came up with that.
We came up with answer actualanswering machines, like the
actual like box.
Yeah.
Caller IDs.
Mm-hmm.
Just some guys.
I could talk about being amillennial all day long.
Yeah.
I love it.
Past or present, though.
Well, present we'll be goingthrough a lot, but past, I live
(06:20):
in the past so much because Ijust miss the 90s.
Yeah.
In the early 2000s.
And music was just better.
It's definitely different now.
For sure.
Yeah.
Um, I am blessed that we grew upwhen we did.
I feel like we are the lastgeneration that grew up going
outside.
SPEAKER_01 (06:42):
Yeah.
I mean, I feel like I see it alittle bit, but it's definitely
like the um.
SPEAKER_04 (06:50):
I know.
It's like I thought that wouldbe closed off.
Yeah, I don't know if she canhear us.
Um It's like the secondarychoice.
Or like if the electronics aretaken or not available.
Um, but yeah, I had all thatstuff, like the razor scooter.
(07:11):
Oh yes.
And the hula hoops, and therazor would take.
Yeah, I said that already.
You said razor scooter.
SPEAKER_01 (07:17):
I know, but I said razor phone marriage.
Oh, right, right, right.
Um our dad would take us likeroller skating around the
neighborhood and bikes andstuff.
SPEAKER_04 (07:26):
So why such a millennial thing to do?
Yeah.
Um, we would go to the park, andthen let's see.
While often perceived as jobhoppers, family remains a high
priority for many millennials.
SPEAKER_01 (07:43):
I can see that.
SPEAKER_04 (07:44):
I don't know why that's listed as like it's
listed as a f as under familyoriented.
Okay.
Um, okay.
We seek meaningful work.
Millennials desire work thataligns with their passions and
provides more than just justifymore than just financial
compensation.
SPEAKER_01 (08:02):
Yeah, so people aren't staying at jobs for
decades even though they ate it.
SPEAKER_04 (08:07):
Yes, we like to be rewarded for our work in affirm
words of affirmation.
Also financially of obviouslybecause we need to live.
Yeah.
But um, I do seek meaningfulwork and relationships a lot.
Yeah.
Um this generation prioritizesspending on memorable
(08:30):
experiences such as travel overaccumulating material goods.
SPEAKER_01 (08:35):
Yeah, I guess so.
I mean, yeah, I guess.
I feel like you hear more aboutlike travel and stuff now, but I
feel like you it's probably alsojust more easily accessible
because of social media andpeople posting and stuff, but I
do see a lot of like familiestraveling together.
(08:59):
Okay.
Um and influencer type stufflike that.
SPEAKER_04 (09:05):
So I can see it.
So another societal and societalimpact, largest living
generation.
Millennials have surpassed ababy boomers, it's the largest
adult generation in the US,giving them considerable
consumer and economic power.
Yeah.
Um, and we are the somillennials usually, well, like
our experience, we are thechildren of baby boomers.
(09:29):
Yeah.
Um, we're shaped by economicrecessions.
Many millennials enteredadulthood during economic
downturns, which influencedtheir financial decisions and
approach to adulthood.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah.
The housing market is trash.
SPEAKER_01 (09:49):
Groceries are absolutely ridiculously
expensive.
Like the cost of living.
Um honestly being an adult, Iwould say is like harder right
now than it seems like it everhas been.
SPEAKER_04 (10:07):
Oh, here's a big one.
Some generational differences,flexibility and multitasking.
Yeah.
As already mentioned, themillennial generation is able to
accept different cultures.
Hence, flexibility means thatmillennials are able to work
with new people, places, andsituations.
All they do that they do notexpect to change, they are ready
to accommodate to new things inpeople.
(10:29):
Um, let's see.
Some challenges, recessions,pandemics, natural disasters,
and skyrocketing home prices.
Um, here's some characteristicsto be known.
(10:50):
Let's see.
We're competent with technology.
Yeah.
Um, we are foodies.
They love podcasts.
Okay.
Um, we're competitive.
Sure.
We're avid savers.
Uh to put a pause on that one.
(11:11):
Um we're cautious about ourpersonal data.
What?
Cautious about our personaldata.
Oh.
Since we're influential in theworkplace, which I could see
that.
Yeah.
Um, they're interested infashion and luxury.
Um, we use social media fornetworking.
(11:32):
Sure.
Because it's accessible.
Yeah.
We are aiming to be morehealthy.
Yeah.
And then, well, I would say thenext generation after us, the
Gen Z, um, they are they have ahigh focus on mental health.
Yeah.
Like I feel like millennialsstarted the conversation and Gen
(11:52):
Z are bringing it home.
Yes.
They're definitely allowed aboutit.
Yes, which is fantastic.
Yeah.
Um let's see.
I will say for millennials, acareer frustration is burnout
and disillusionment with work.
(12:15):
Well, contrasting it with GenZ's approach to prioritizing
mental health over job security.
SPEAKER_01 (12:22):
Yeah.
I don't know.
I feel like some of the languagethat they use is like jaw popper
sounds like a negative thing,but it also sounds like people
are just not um what's the word?
Happy?
Sucking it up.
SPEAKER_04 (12:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:37):
Just like there are other places that I can go, and
that's fine.
SPEAKER_04 (12:42):
Yes.
And I feel like we millennialslike to try things.
Yeah.
And we don't mind being like,oh, if I try this and it doesn't
work, like that's fine.
Yeah.
Like we're all aboutexperimenting at least.
I can see that.
What are some things you missedfrom the 90s in the early 2000s?
(13:02):
Like that are different now, orjust Yeah, because I mean a lot
of things aren't really aroundanymore.
I'm not really like anythingthat I miss, but I guess like
memories probably aim and like Iaming people and leaving away
messages, and I it felt easierto well, I think it was also
(13:23):
just the proximity, but it felteasier to keep in touch with
your friends because it's justlike you would log on to AIM and
they'd be right there.
Yeah.
Um movies, like the rocks ofthat stage.
Unmatched, and have yet to bebeaten.
(13:44):
Um, probably shows too.
Yes, the TV.
SPEAKER_01 (13:48):
Um and like not being an adult.
I mean, I feel like that's whywe like nostalgia so much
because we have been given theshort end of the stick in terms
of adulthood.
SPEAKER_04 (14:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:01):
I don't want to hear anything about like us not
taking responsibility and maybegoing to live at home and being
job bullshit.
SPEAKER_04 (14:11):
Like, life is hard right now.
Time Jira Top right now, yeah.
Yeah, and I feel like maybe italways has been, but for some
reason, especially like as soonas we became the adults and the
ones like in charge, likeeverything just went to shit.
Yeah.
So thanks, boomers.
Just kidding.
Right.
We love you.
Um, no, those are really goodpoints.
I would say the TV was better.
(14:32):
I don't really I don't watch TV.
Everything just feels likerepeats now and reruns, like
with movies, especially.
And I noticed a lot, um, they'reremaking a lot of old movies,
which people Yeah, that's what Imean.
Like people aren't they have nooriginal ideas anymore.
Yeah.
Um, like, no, like keep the LionKing, the Lion King.
Yeah.
(14:53):
Um I do miss like VHS.
I went from Bluegray was athing.
Um, I've talked about this abunch, but like T VR.
Yes.
I've talked about this a bunchgrowing up.
Um, our dad is really intosports, he could like every
sport growing up, but growingup, no matter what time of year
it was, January throughDecember, we would have a sport,
some sport on TV.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter what it was.
(15:14):
Um, of course, there's the bigones like football, basketball,
baseball.
But there was like later inlife, there was golf, and
there's, I'm sure there wastennis, and like just any sport
you can think of, it was on TV.
Yeah, we was watching.
So that and then just going tolike sports practice, just even
though it was like after school,like it still felt like maybe
(15:37):
because we were the kids, likewe were tired, like not as tired
as like parents were.
Yeah.
It just felt like doable.
I will say one thing that we hadthat I don't hear nowadays.
SPEAKER_01 (15:45):
Like when I ask kids if they had homework, they look
at me like I'm crazy.
I feel like we would go toschool and then come home and
have like an hour to maybehomework at homework.
SPEAKER_04 (15:56):
And they told us at the beginning.
Well, I feel like that makessense for the younger kids
because it's like implementinglike skills that they need, but
I'm talking about like middleand high school.
They don't have homework?
No.
We used to have book reportsthat they do in school, and if
they don't finish it, they haveto take it home.
Everything is done on theirschool provided device.
(16:16):
No, we didn't have devices.
We books that we had to buy.
Where we used to buy where weused to get school books from.
No, they would give them to us,but we would bring them home and
have to wrap them ourselves withthe brown paper or get the
stretchy book covers.
Yeah.
And you would see in the front,like who had the book before you
the year before.
(16:37):
And also, guys, I thinkmillennials have back problems
because those books were soheavy.
Yeah, they were.
And it was the textbook and thebind, like we would have to
carry everything around.
Now they just bring their littlelaptop to class.
And then like at the end of theyear, your brown paper bag was
no more.
Yeah.
Or maybe mid-year.
There's definitely the way thatpeople are good at gift
(16:58):
wrapping.
I feel like I'm almost good atyou would have to like cut it
out and like fold it and cut itso and then you could decorate
the front.
We didn't have any electronicanything.
We had.
Do you remember?
Oh my gosh, what's going on withthat?
Okay.
What is the name of that thing?
(17:19):
It like was a light that shinedon like a square device.
A projector.
Oh.
Was it a projector?
And there'd be a screen andwhatever was on the device would
be on would show up on thescreen.
Yeah.
It's not caught up, but you meanyeah.
Is that we still have those?
Do they use them?
(17:40):
Brandon has one.
Did he use it?
Let me see.
What would he use it for?
He uses No, it's not, it's notthat one.
It's the other one.
I know what you're talking aboutthough.
Because you would turn the lightoff and it would be like a clear
paper that they would write withdry erased background under.
(18:02):
It would show up on like thepull the screen down.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know what it was called.
Oh, what is that?
Towards the end of my schoolthough, they would have what was
it?
The Stanley boards?
Is that what they were called?
What is that?
Um you would have to they wouldhave to calibrate it and like
click every corner of thescreen, and you could write
right on it.
Was that called?
SPEAKER_01 (18:23):
Stanley board?
SPEAKER_04 (18:25):
Stanley board.
Or maybe not Stanley.
Oh.
School board that neededcalibration.
I don't know.
What was that thing called?
SPEAKER_01 (18:39):
Smartboard, I guess.
Oh, smartboard?
Okay.
Um.
Yeah, and then same thing, likethe camera would put everything
up on that, and they would justthey would have a pen that was
specific to that.
SPEAKER_04 (18:52):
Of course, though, growing up it was like dry
erased.
The nasty ass chalkboard.
Oh my gosh, guys.
Still the sound of nails on achalkboard makes me cringe to
this day.
Yeah.
And there'd be dust everywhere,chalk dust.
Um when you were talking aboutthe how we didn't have
electronics, we would havecomputer class.
Yes.
(19:13):
Or we'd go to the library andhave the big Apple computers
that had the colors.
Like we big, yeah.
Yes.
We used to have we grew up withcomputer class, and I know our
parents grew up with like typingclass was a lot of typing class.
I did too.
We did, but it was it wasn'tlike it was just like a part of
that class.
Like we learned the type, but wealso like did stuff with a
computer.
But I don't have to look at thekeyboard anymore to know where
(19:35):
the letters are.
Yeah, it would like test yourspeed.
I think computer class startedin fifth grade for us.
Um I'm so shy.
Yeah, because I don't rememberit before Cryford because we
would have it um I like rememberthe room.
I see it in my head.
At Hartford?
Yes, yeah, yeah.
It was like in that back hallbefore you get to the music.
(19:57):
But two rooms of comp desktops.
Yeah.
It was like we would play umOregon Trail.
Yes.
I don't know if we did that inschool.
We did it at home.
No, I did it in school.
Did you?
But what was the other one?
Amazon Trail?
unknown (20:10):
No.
SPEAKER_04 (20:10):
We did that at home too.
Oh, what is Amazon Trail?
It's like the same thing, butlike in the Amazon.
Oh.
An Amazon Rain First.
Okay.
Oh, what was that?
Oh, we used to.
Okay, so our dad, we used toplay Duck Hunt.
Oh yeah.
Super Mario Brothers.
Um.
(20:33):
What?
Nintendo 64.
Yes.
Do you remember library days?
It used to be called Media Day.
No.
I think maybe by that time theyjust called it computer class
for me.
No, but like when we would havelibrary, like a specialist, we
would have library and theywould call it Media Day.
Oh.
(20:55):
No, I would just remember goingto the library after elementary.
Yes, Nathaniel.
When did we stop checking outbooks in school?
I don't know.
Because we obviously had librarya library in high school.
Yeah, but it was more of like anas-needed basis or like to do a
project or something.
We'd have it as part of aspecial?
SPEAKER_01 (21:12):
Not as no, I guess they replaced it with computer
class.
Do you remember the game Snood?
Did you ever play that?
Yeah.
Like the little faces and youhad to aim and get three of
them.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (21:22):
I remember the library at Lenape.
Yeah, I do too.
Well, it was, yeah.
Was there a library inHarrington?
And Hartford.
I don't know.
Okay.
Um, do you remember Angry Birdsand Tetris?
(21:42):
Yes, I do.
Um else?
There's like so many things.
Um, do you remember whenaudiobooks used to be like on a
(22:02):
CD you would people old peoplewould listen to in their car?
SPEAKER_01 (22:05):
Yeah, I was just looking at them over there.
I was also just thinking,because I know we talked about
this for maybe like a 40thbirthday for you, like a 90s
party, and I was saying to umeveryone come dressed in like
colorful tracksuits, and then wehave lunchables, and you said
something, what was it, beaniesand weenies or something?
SPEAKER_04 (22:25):
Wieners and beans.
Oh, it's like it's the Chef BoyRD ones, but it had like a
purple top.
SPEAKER_01 (22:32):
Yeah, I don't remember what you call it.
SPEAKER_04 (22:34):
Okay, so I'm gonna spit off some things to you
while you're looking stuff up.
30 Things that's pre-millennial.
Okay, Hilary Duff and her flipphone.
This is the picture.
Oh, Cinderella story.
Um, dial up internet.
Mm-hmm.
Um, burn oh, burn CDs forfriends.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guys, my car does not have a CDplayer.
Um, I don't I don't know thelast year of cars they made that
(22:56):
had CD players.
Yeah.
But Summer Mix 1999.
I had an entire like catalog ofburned CDs.
Love my CD catalog that youwould put in the visor on your
car.
Yeah, on the side.
Having a CD case was like thething to have.
Yes.
Um, and we used to use BearShare and Limewire.
(23:18):
Sorry guys.
Yeah.
But we all did.
Um, MySpace Top 8.
Yes.
Um, Nokia 3310.
Look.
Oh, I didn't have that.
Um, Tamagotchis.
Oh, yeah, I did have that.
And Furby's.
Yes.
Blockbuster.
Yeah.
R A P truly.
(23:39):
Beepers and pagers.
We didn't have them, but like weknew what they were.
Yeah.
The dance maps from theMacarena.
Oh gosh, yeah.
Um, VHS tapes.
The no cell phone rules inclass.
Do you did you guys have that?
I mean, probably, yeah.
Chalkboard.
How much does that bring youback and all the stuff on the
wall?
Ugh.
(24:00):
Oh.
It's talking right now.
Aim.
Yes.
Burnt popcorn in the microwave.
Check this out.
Ew.
Making MySpace layouts.
Coating.
SPEAKER_03 (24:14):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (24:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (24:15):
The first coding.
Razor scooters.
Yep.
Phone cards.
SPEAKER_04 (24:21):
Do you remember those?
No.
So you um they used to likecharge you um for like long
distance calls.
So people would use prepaidphone cards.
Oh.
Um, psychogenesis and supernintendo.
Napster and LimeWire.
Yes.
Texting in T9.
(24:42):
Oh gosh.
Um, skipping commercials withDVR.
I would just like to say theycould never nowadays text in T9.
Oh, the kids today could neversurvive as a millennial with the
stuff that we did.
Carrying disposable cameras.
I can't guys, guys.
Can I just say on the last dayof school, I would take a
camera, disposable camera.
(25:03):
And every year at the last dayof school, my mom would take me
to Walmart and I would drop offmy camera and have the films
developed.
Oh yeah.
Yes.
And then do you remember digitalcameras?
I do.
Um, the flip foam.
Um, wait.
unknown (25:17):
Oh shit.
SPEAKER_01 (25:19):
What was it called?
The what was it called?
Like when we would go on roadtrips before we had a Garmin.
MapQuest, we would have to printout the directions on the map
quest.
SPEAKER_04 (25:30):
Yes.
And the passenger would have toread them all.
So some like so just the room.
Not more accents than thereshould have been.
Yeah.
Because if you didn't have apassenger, you'd still get
somewhere.
You had to like read it yourselfor like commit it to memory
before you left the house.
Yeah.
Frosted tips.
Oh yeah.
Justin Triblink put that on thespot for us.
(25:51):
Furby.
Pager code.
Oh god.
Then you have to go to yournearest payphone.
Really?
Yeah.
If someone paid you, you have togo to because you the pager is
more so just like a heads up,like someone needs to like it
was like an in-between thing, soyou would have to go to the
payphone to call them.
Oh.
Yeah.
So burning mixes for every mood.
(26:14):
Walkman and disc man.
Oh lord.
Do you remember your um the CDplayer protocol would skip?
Yeah.
And you'd have to take the CDout and clean it with rubbing
almost or your shirt.
Mm-hmm.
And sometimes if I know youdon't like running, but like
whenever I would run with it, itwould skip because it would be.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Um, what else?
The fear of missing out.
I didn't know if FOMO came up inthe back then.
SPEAKER_01 (26:36):
Are they I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (26:37):
Is it just talking about it says general FOMO on
aim?
Yeah.
Um the pog craze.
Do you remember what's that?
You don't remember the pogs?
The circles?
No.
Yes.
And the you would trade them onthe playground and like at
school.
No, you know what?
We had hit clips, hit clips.
(26:59):
Who?
And then the slammers for thesilver bones, they were like the
best thing to get.
Hit clips were like these littlelike 30-second music clips that
you would put in this tiny boombox.
Is it like Vine?
No, it's like um, it would belike in sync or I don't remember
that.
Britney Spear.
You could get them at McDonald'sand you're happy me.
This is a good one.
No social media pressure becausewe didn't well, aim wasn't
(27:21):
really social media because youweren't posting pictures.
The only pressure then wasMySpace top eight.
And like dropping someone tonumber seven.
Yeah.
And it being the end of theworld.
Oh, and here, the rise ofreality TV.
Look, our favorite.
The real world.
Oh.
What is that?
Oh, the hills.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh guys, we love it so much.
(27:42):
We miss it.
Um, I don't remember the hitclips.
They were so cool.
Did you guys were you on wasyour generation?
Yeah, same generation.
Were your people like L Beanpeople?
SPEAKER_01 (27:58):
Yeah, we would get the monograms?
Or the initial backpacks?
SPEAKER_04 (28:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (28:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (28:04):
Um that's all I remember.
What were our lunch boxes like?
Were they brown bag, or did wehave to get like a did you have
like a special lunchbox?
I feel like it was insulated atthat point.
But you know what also we didn'thave growing up and we survived?
We didn't carry water bottleswith us.
Yeah, we would just risk ourlives drinking the water
(28:25):
fountain.
Exactly.
Um, what else?
Um just everything.
Yeah.
MP3 players.
Yeah.
Um crazy time.
iPod, like the original iPod.
Oh my gosh, those things were sosmall.
They really were.
(28:45):
And then remember the reallychunky ones, the clunky ones?
Yeah.
Oh, what was that one called?
Because there's iPod Nano.
Yes.
And then we used to have to sofor Christmas, a lot of our
Christmas gifts used to be theiTunes the iTunes gift cards.
Yeah.
Because I think CDs were like$2.
(29:06):
Because if you just so no CDswere expensive.
But if we went to Tunes, which Ilost going to Tunes, then CDs
were two dollars.
SPEAKER_03 (29:14):
Guys, CDs are also a thing for me.
I used to they used to drop onTuesdays.
SPEAKER_04 (29:18):
Oh.
We would go to I think that'slike the new release date, like
in the in the entertainmentworld.
Like for books too.
Um, Toons.
Oh my god, what is the name ofthe other um music store?
Oh, the chunky one was the iPodClassic.
Music stores.
Sam Goody.
And um XYE.
Yes, that's what it is.
(29:39):
Oh, yeah.
And then Borders used to have amusic section.
Oh yeah.
So it would literally like gothere, whatever my um my dad,
our dad would um take it, go toBorders.
He would get like um ex dummiesor like books or whatever.
Like not X dummies, but likecomputers for dummies.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So he would get that, he wouldread it.
(30:00):
And then I go to the musicsection and get like a CD.
And then I would loved becauseyou so they had like I think
they had sample they had thesample ones playing, like if
they had like um like a CDplayer with the sample with a
they would have a sample out.
Okay, yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And then like I would buy the CDand be like 20 bucks or
whatever, or it'd be on sale.
Yeah.
And then you buy it.
I couldn't wait to get to thecar and open it and read the
(30:21):
booklet in the left because it'slike the lyrics, like the bios.
And their little like picturesand loved that.
Or on iTunes, you can just buy asong, which I think used to not
be expensive, but then theystart going up to like 99 cents,
and they were just like, it's somuch cheaper, quote unquote, to
buy the album.
Yeah.
An artist would do like a littletease, they would just drop a
song or two on iTunes.
(30:43):
Yeah.
Because it wouldn't be the wholealbum yet.
Um, do you remember BeanieBabies?
Do I?
Yes.
I listen, you have a collection,but my absolute favorite one,
Sneaky, he was like a littleleopard.
SPEAKER_01 (30:59):
I think either we I have the same birthday as him or
our cousin did.
And she was like, Oh my gosh,let me take him to school for
like show and tell on the firstday.
And she lost him.
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (31:10):
She lost him.
We love you, babe.
I was so sad.
Do you remember each pretty babyhad a birthday and they had like
a little bio?
Yes.
And it was oh my gosh.
Do you remember um Chia Pets?
Yeah.
And do you remember?
I don't know if we ever did thisin school, but I used to see on
like TV shows, like in healthclass in like middle school, it
(31:30):
was like whenever your weekwants to take home, like a baby
doll, it was like a baby.
SPEAKER_01 (31:34):
I don't think I ever did that.
SPEAKER_04 (31:36):
We didn't either.
They didn't have that at ourschool, but it was like it would
like obviously be like birthcontrol.
That or like an egg.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
Or yeah, we would do the scienceprojects where you would have to
figure out how to make aparachute for an egg and let it
land and not crack.
I was gonna ask, did you guysever do science experiments
where you had to like bringstuff home and it would like
grow or like no, but I want toknow, do they still dissect
(31:58):
creatures?
Can I just tell you?
Eighth grade would dissect afrog.
Yeah.
A frog, and I think was it a cowheart?
One of their four hearts?
Or the four chambers of thefloor?
What's funny?
I still have that smell.
I can still smell theformaldehyde.
No, I can still smell thedissecting of the frog.
I smell the chemicals.
And you just knew it was like itwas like leading updates.
(32:22):
You're gonna be dissecting afrog.
But also, guys, while fiance,um, we saw a bird, and I asked
her if she did an autopsy ornecrepsy.
I think I forget what it'scalled for animals.
Absolutely not.
Um, but I still have that smellin my head.
Um The Scholastic Book Fair.
Yes, um, RJ has that now.
And I was like, I asked yourmom, I was like, Do you remember
those days?
They would send to school like$5because my mom was like$20.
(32:44):
Do you remember this golf game?
Did you ever play this?
No.
Oh my god.
I played on the Wii.
Um, and then wait, somethingelse just popped up too.
This clock that we would use.
Which one?
In class.
Did you ever play?
I do remember that one in class,yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (33:00):
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
Elementary school.
What do I remember forelementary school?
SPEAKER_04 (33:06):
I remember in high school.
What were your favorite lunchdays when we would buy lunch?
Mine was, I think, Tuesdayswhere it was like deli day.
Me and my best friend would do,we would love deli day, and we
get a snapple.
SPEAKER_01 (33:19):
I feel like I would always get my lunch packed, and
then on Friday I would getpizza.
Was it pizza?
Yeah.
What else did they do?
SPEAKER_04 (33:27):
Remember those nasty milk cartons that you'd have to
fold it back and then pop itout.
I never drank.
I know, but like you would seechocolate, or they would come
with orange juice as anotheroption.
Um do you remember they used to,although we mostly packed our
lunch, but like on the specialdays we would like do um we have
to bring cash to buy lunch.
They used to send home like thelunch calendar and you would
hang it on the refrigerator.
(33:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did we did they call themspecials back then or were they
called periods?
Well, I think second period.
But I think they were I thinkthey were specials, like art,
music.
Yes.
Well, we had gym everywhere.
What was music class for us?
It wasn't singing.
SPEAKER_01 (34:05):
Was it like instruments that no, it was just
music, but I think What did wedo?
If you had like I had band.
Oh.
But I can't remember if that wasafter school.
You were in band?
Yeah.
I played the flute in fifth andsixth grade, and I was also in
the choir in fifth and sixthgrade.
SPEAKER_04 (34:28):
What was that?
It was music.
Oh, I had wood shop in eighthgrade in home.
I didn't have oh no, I didn'thave that in eighth grade, but I
I think I had the option forthey called it cooking at that
point.
It wasn't home, but it waseither that or um personal
finance.
And I took personal finance.
I took a business law class inninth grade.
(34:49):
Oh, that's cool.
Do you remember we used to havedrivers out in the trailers?
Yeah, sophomore year.
Yes.
I'm gonna see if our high schoolhas the teachers' names on
there.
Oh, here we go.
Oh my gosh.
Guys, we are on our highschool's website.
SPEAKER_02 (35:10):
Do they have the teachers' names on here?
SPEAKER_01 (35:14):
So excuse me, social studies.
SPEAKER_04 (35:18):
Oh.
SPEAKER_02 (35:21):
We have a 90 96.2 graduation rate.
SPEAKER_01 (35:26):
Oh.
SPEAKER_00 (35:27):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01 (35:29):
I can't remember.
That's annoying.
Wait, is this him?
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (35:37):
Do they have the teachers' names on here?
SPEAKER_00 (35:43):
Staff director.
Let's save anyone that rememberis still there.
SPEAKER_04 (35:47):
AP World History.
Oh yes, who was that?
I can't remember his name.
Were you an AP World History?
I think so.
What made it AP?
Um, I don't know.
Probably just more work.
SPEAKER_02 (36:03):
Um my gosh.
SPEAKER_04 (36:30):
This is crazy because if a lot of people that
we went to school with, youknow, um stayed in the area,
they may become like teachersand stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (36:40):
Yeah.
That's right.
SPEAKER_04 (36:45):
I was oh yes.
Oh my god.
Oh, I literally feel like I wentto school with her.
I recognize that last name.
I do too.
Or maybe she was like a yearahead of me.
Yeah.
Yes! Sure, it was her.
Oh yeah, I didn't have her.
(37:06):
Yes.
I took Spanish.
Oh my gosh.
Did you go to school with her?
No.
Oh, there's an L in there.
We have to There's an L inthere.
Right?
Me.
The girl that you know?
No.
Okay.
I don't know that person.
Guys, we are just we're lovingthis.
(37:27):
We looked at the time and thanksfor sticking around with us.
Hope you felt a little bit ofnostalgia as well.
Yeah.
And like, listen, review, andsubscribe.
Yes.
Alright, guys, we'll talk to yousoon.
Bye.
SPEAKER_01 (37:41):
Bye.
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This was another episode of Turnthe Page Podcast.
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And also don't forget to leave areview, please, and let us know
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SPEAKER_04 (01:09):
We just had lunch.
Yes.
I might move this closer so Ican make sure my voice is picked
up.
I promise you it did.
Okay.
But it always picks you uplouder anyway.
Excuse me?
It does.
Okay.
Um Rosebud Thorn.
SPEAKER_01 (01:25):
Oh, I didn't think any.
Oh, that's fine.
Through.
Oh.
Um.
I guess a rose is like having afew hours to do this because B
is home.
He's not usually home on theweekends.
Correct.
So that was nice.
(01:45):
Um.
Well, tomorrow's my anniversary.
It is one year.
Yeah, so I'll probably bere-watching videos and stuff.
Wedding anniversary.
SPEAKER_04 (02:01):
Yes, wedding anniversary.
So it's official.
Um, yeah, apparently the firstten years don't count.
SPEAKER_01 (02:07):
Yeah.
But um, yeah, I guess justgrateful for support and loved
ones and family and everybodyrallying.
It was a great day.
Uh Thorne.
I'm tired.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (02:27):
That's really it.
Go ahead there.
Um, yeah.
Rose, yes, that we were able todo this, which is really
amazing.
Thanks to our supportivepartners for allowing this to
happen because otherwise thekids would be right here.
We wouldn't be able to do this.
Um a bud.
I haven't been working out likeI had been in the past.
(02:48):
I'm trying to get back intothat, but also trying to like
reorganize some things in mylife, i.e., the basement where
the bike is.
So I don't have to look at themess while I'm working out.
Um, yeah, just trying to getsome things in order with that.
The thorn.
I'm just tired too.
And it's just this whole likeMonday to Friday thing, and only
(03:11):
having the weekend to do things,and like, yeah, my kids are in
like sports right now, which isgreat.
Soccer, and then swim onSundays, and then we have piano
on Thursday, so it's a lot.
Huh?
Stop clapping.
Sorry, she told me I stoppedclapping.
Um, so that's a lot, but this iswhat we did growing up, so kudos
(03:35):
to our parents for dealing withthis.
I'm dealing, but like goingthrough it anyway.
Yeah, we are here, we're gonnatalk about being a millennial as
two millennials.
But it's interesting because weare seven and a half years apart
and we are on one side of themillennial and on the other
(03:56):
side.
Right, two different sides.
Yes.
So let me shoot some facts outto you guys.
I'm a basic millennial.
Excuse me?
You are an elder millennial.
No, no, no.
Majure.
Mature millennial.
What do you mean basic?
I don't know.
Like, what's the word for like ayounger millennial?
A millennial?
Great.
So I'm a basic millennial.
What is basic?
(04:17):
As opposed to a maturemillennial.
There's no other specifier.
Anyway, guys, so millennials aregen Y, but we refer to ourselves
as millennials.
We are born between the years of1981 and 1996.
Or sorry, 1996.
I am 86 and you are 94.
(04:38):
So again, we are on two separateends of the line here.
Yeah.
But we seem to mesh pretty well.
Yeah.
Um, okay, so current ages itsays in 2025 is 29 to 44.
SPEAKER_01 (04:54):
Oh wow.
SPEAKER_04 (04:54):
I know that's a huge gap.
It's 15 years.
Yeah.
Is that how each generation is?
I think so.
Okay, I don't know who came upwith that.
But so we are characterized byits fluency with technology,
strong educational attainment, apreference for experience over
material possessions, and adesire for meaningful work.
They came of age during the riseof the internet and social
(05:16):
media, but significantly shapedtheir views and behaviors.
I will say that is true.
I am a hardcore fan of the 90sRB.
Yeah.
Love it so much.
And I also grew up with dial upinternet.
Yeah.
Um, because that's amazing.
(05:36):
Um, we came out with cell phonesbeing new, blackberries,
Nokia's, the chocolate, razor,razor.
The first flip phone, the thingsthat go.
Not the first camera phone, Imeant.
What are those things thatwhat's the phone called that
like you slide it up?
Sidekick?
Yeah, this or the edge.
(05:57):
I don't know what that is.
So we came up with that.
We came up with answer actualanswering machines, like the
actual like box.
Yeah.
Caller IDs.
Mm-hmm.
Just some guys.
I could talk about being amillennial all day long.
Yeah.
I love it.
Past or present, though.
Well, present we'll be goingthrough a lot, but past, I live
(06:20):
in the past so much because Ijust miss the 90s.
Yeah.
In the early 2000s.
And music was just better.
It's definitely different now.
For sure.
Yeah.
Um, I am blessed that we grew upwhen we did.
I feel like we are the lastgeneration that grew up going
outside.
SPEAKER_01 (06:42):
Yeah.
I mean, I feel like I see it alittle bit, but it's definitely
like the um.
SPEAKER_04 (06:50):
I know.
It's like I thought that wouldbe closed off.
Yeah, I don't know if she canhear us.
Um It's like the secondarychoice.
Or like if the electronics aretaken or not available.
Um, but yeah, I had all thatstuff, like the razor scooter.
(07:11):
Oh yes.
And the hula hoops, and therazor would take.
Yeah, I said that already.
You said razor scooter.
SPEAKER_01 (07:17):
I know, but I said razor phone marriage.
Oh, right, right, right.
Um our dad would take us likeroller skating around the
neighborhood and bikes andstuff.
SPEAKER_04 (07:26):
So why such a millennial thing to do?
Yeah.
Um, we would go to the park, andthen let's see.
While often perceived as jobhoppers, family remains a high
priority for many millennials.
SPEAKER_01 (07:43):
I can see that.
SPEAKER_04 (07:44):
I don't know why that's listed as like it's
listed as a f as under familyoriented.
Okay.
Um, okay.
We seek meaningful work.
Millennials desire work thataligns with their passions and
provides more than just justifymore than just financial
compensation.
SPEAKER_01 (08:02):
Yeah, so people aren't staying at jobs for
decades even though they ate it.
SPEAKER_04 (08:07):
Yes, we like to be rewarded for our work in affirm
words of affirmation.
Also financially of obviouslybecause we need to live.
Yeah.
But um, I do seek meaningfulwork and relationships a lot.
Yeah.
Um this generation prioritizesspending on memorable
(08:30):
experiences such as travel overaccumulating material goods.
SPEAKER_01 (08:35):
Yeah, I guess so.
I mean, yeah, I guess.
I feel like you hear more aboutlike travel and stuff now, but I
feel like you it's probably alsojust more easily accessible
because of social media andpeople posting and stuff, but I
do see a lot of like familiestraveling together.
(08:59):
Okay.
Um and influencer type stufflike that.
SPEAKER_04 (09:05):
So I can see it.
So another societal and societalimpact, largest living
generation.
Millennials have surpassed ababy boomers, it's the largest
adult generation in the US,giving them considerable
consumer and economic power.
Yeah.
Um, and we are the somillennials usually, well, like
our experience, we are thechildren of baby boomers.
(09:29):
Yeah.
Um, we're shaped by economicrecessions.
Many millennials enteredadulthood during economic
downturns, which influencedtheir financial decisions and
approach to adulthood.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah.
The housing market is trash.
SPEAKER_01 (09:49):
Groceries are absolutely ridiculously
expensive.
Like the cost of living.
Um honestly being an adult, Iwould say is like harder right
now than it seems like it everhas been.
SPEAKER_04 (10:07):
Oh, here's a big one.
Some generational differences,flexibility and multitasking.
Yeah.
As already mentioned, themillennial generation is able to
accept different cultures.
Hence, flexibility means thatmillennials are able to work
with new people, places, andsituations.
All they do that they do notexpect to change, they are ready
to accommodate to new things inpeople.
(10:29):
Um, let's see.
Some challenges, recessions,pandemics, natural disasters,
and skyrocketing home prices.
Um, here's some characteristicsto be known.
(10:50):
Let's see.
We're competent with technology.
Yeah.
Um, we are foodies.
They love podcasts.
Okay.
Um, we're competitive.
Sure.
We're avid savers.
Uh to put a pause on that one.
(11:11):
Um we're cautious about ourpersonal data.
What?
Cautious about our personaldata.
Oh.
Since we're influential in theworkplace, which I could see
that.
Yeah.
Um, they're interested infashion and luxury.
Um, we use social media fornetworking.
(11:32):
Sure.
Because it's accessible.
Yeah.
We are aiming to be morehealthy.
Yeah.
And then, well, I would say thenext generation after us, the
Gen Z, um, they are they have ahigh focus on mental health.
Yeah.
Like I feel like millennialsstarted the conversation and Gen
(11:52):
Z are bringing it home.
Yes.
They're definitely allowed aboutit.
Yes, which is fantastic.
Yeah.
Um let's see.
I will say for millennials, acareer frustration is burnout
and disillusionment with work.
(12:15):
Well, contrasting it with GenZ's approach to prioritizing
mental health over job security.
SPEAKER_01 (12:22):
Yeah.
I don't know.
I feel like some of the languagethat they use is like jaw popper
sounds like a negative thing,but it also sounds like people
are just not um what's the word?
Happy?
Sucking it up.
SPEAKER_04 (12:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:37):
Just like there are other places that I can go, and
that's fine.
SPEAKER_04 (12:42):
Yes.
And I feel like we millennialslike to try things.
Yeah.
And we don't mind being like,oh, if I try this and it doesn't
work, like that's fine.
Yeah.
Like we're all aboutexperimenting at least.
I can see that.
What are some things you missedfrom the 90s in the early 2000s?
(13:02):
Like that are different now, orjust Yeah, because I mean a lot
of things aren't really aroundanymore.
I'm not really like anythingthat I miss, but I guess like
memories probably aim and like Iaming people and leaving away
messages, and I it felt easierto well, I think it was also
(13:23):
just the proximity, but it felteasier to keep in touch with
your friends because it's justlike you would log on to AIM and
they'd be right there.
Yeah.
Um movies, like the rocks ofthat stage.
Unmatched, and have yet to bebeaten.
(13:44):
Um, probably shows too.
Yes, the TV.
SPEAKER_01 (13:48):
Um and like not being an adult.
I mean, I feel like that's whywe like nostalgia so much
because we have been given theshort end of the stick in terms
of adulthood.
SPEAKER_04 (14:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:01):
I don't want to hear anything about like us not
taking responsibility and maybegoing to live at home and being
job bullshit.
SPEAKER_04 (14:11):
Like, life is hard right now.
Time Jira Top right now, yeah.
Yeah, and I feel like maybe italways has been, but for some
reason, especially like as soonas we became the adults and the
ones like in charge, likeeverything just went to shit.
Yeah.
So thanks, boomers.
Just kidding.
Right.
We love you.
Um, no, those are really goodpoints.
I would say the TV was better.
(14:32):
I don't really I don't watch TV.
Everything just feels likerepeats now and reruns, like
with movies, especially.
And I noticed a lot, um, they'reremaking a lot of old movies,
which people Yeah, that's what Imean.
Like people aren't they have nooriginal ideas anymore.
Yeah.
Um, like, no, like keep the LionKing, the Lion King.
Yeah.
(14:53):
Um I do miss like VHS.
I went from Bluegray was athing.
Um, I've talked about this abunch, but like T VR.
Yes.
I've talked about this a bunchgrowing up.
Um, our dad is really intosports, he could like every
sport growing up, but growingup, no matter what time of year
it was, January throughDecember, we would have a sport,
some sport on TV.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter what it was.
(15:14):
Um, of course, there's the bigones like football, basketball,
baseball.
But there was like later inlife, there was golf, and
there's, I'm sure there wastennis, and like just any sport
you can think of, it was on TV.
Yeah, we was watching.
So that and then just going tolike sports practice, just even
though it was like after school,like it still felt like maybe
(15:37):
because we were the kids, likewe were tired, like not as tired
as like parents were.
Yeah.
It just felt like doable.
I will say one thing that we hadthat I don't hear nowadays.
SPEAKER_01 (15:45):
Like when I ask kids if they had homework, they look
at me like I'm crazy.
I feel like we would go toschool and then come home and
have like an hour to maybehomework at homework.
SPEAKER_04 (15:56):
And they told us at the beginning.
Well, I feel like that makessense for the younger kids
because it's like implementinglike skills that they need, but
I'm talking about like middleand high school.
They don't have homework?
No.
We used to have book reportsthat they do in school, and if
they don't finish it, they haveto take it home.
Everything is done on theirschool provided device.
(16:16):
No, we didn't have devices.
We books that we had to buy.
Where we used to buy where weused to get school books from.
No, they would give them to us,but we would bring them home and
have to wrap them ourselves withthe brown paper or get the
stretchy book covers.
Yeah.
And you would see in the front,like who had the book before you
the year before.
(16:37):
And also, guys, I thinkmillennials have back problems
because those books were soheavy.
Yeah, they were.
And it was the textbook and thebind, like we would have to
carry everything around.
Now they just bring their littlelaptop to class.
And then like at the end of theyear, your brown paper bag was
no more.
Yeah.
Or maybe mid-year.
There's definitely the way thatpeople are good at gift
(16:58):
wrapping.
I feel like I'm almost good atyou would have to like cut it
out and like fold it and cut itso and then you could decorate
the front.
We didn't have any electronicanything.
We had.
Do you remember?
Oh my gosh, what's going on withthat?
Okay.
What is the name of that thing?
(17:19):
It like was a light that shinedon like a square device.
A projector.
Oh.
Was it a projector?
And there'd be a screen andwhatever was on the device would
be on would show up on thescreen.
Yeah.
It's not caught up, but you meanyeah.
Is that we still have those?
Do they use them?
(17:40):
Brandon has one.
Did he use it?
Let me see.
What would he use it for?
He uses No, it's not, it's notthat one.
It's the other one.
I know what you're talking aboutthough.
Because you would turn the lightoff and it would be like a clear
paper that they would write withdry erased background under.
(18:02):
It would show up on like thepull the screen down.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know what it was called.
Oh, what is that?
Towards the end of my schoolthough, they would have what was
it?
The Stanley boards?
Is that what they were called?
What is that?
Um you would have to they wouldhave to calibrate it and like
click every corner of thescreen, and you could write
right on it.
Was that called?
SPEAKER_01 (18:23):
Stanley board?
SPEAKER_04 (18:25):
Stanley board.
Or maybe not Stanley.
Oh.
School board that neededcalibration.
I don't know.
What was that thing called?
SPEAKER_01 (18:39):
Smartboard, I guess.
Oh, smartboard?
Okay.
Um.
Yeah, and then same thing, likethe camera would put everything
up on that, and they would justthey would have a pen that was
specific to that.
SPEAKER_04 (18:52):
Of course, though, growing up it was like dry
erased.
The nasty ass chalkboard.
Oh my gosh, guys.
Still the sound of nails on achalkboard makes me cringe to
this day.
Yeah.
And there'd be dust everywhere,chalk dust.
Um when you were talking aboutthe how we didn't have
electronics, we would havecomputer class.
Yes.
(19:13):
Or we'd go to the library andhave the big Apple computers
that had the colors.
Like we big, yeah.
Yes.
We used to have we grew up withcomputer class, and I know our
parents grew up with like typingclass was a lot of typing class.
I did too.
We did, but it was it wasn'tlike it was just like a part of
that class.
Like we learned the type, but wealso like did stuff with a
computer.
But I don't have to look at thekeyboard anymore to know where
(19:35):
the letters are.
Yeah, it would like test yourspeed.
I think computer class startedin fifth grade for us.
Um I'm so shy.
Yeah, because I don't rememberit before Cryford because we
would have it um I like rememberthe room.
I see it in my head.
At Hartford?
Yes, yeah, yeah.
It was like in that back hallbefore you get to the music.
(19:57):
But two rooms of comp desktops.
Yeah.
It was like we would play umOregon Trail.
Yes.
I don't know if we did that inschool.
We did it at home.
No, I did it in school.
Did you?
But what was the other one?
Amazon Trail?
unknown (20:10):
No.
SPEAKER_04 (20:10):
We did that at home too.
Oh, what is Amazon Trail?
It's like the same thing, butlike in the Amazon.
Oh.
An Amazon Rain First.
Okay.
Oh, what was that?
Oh, we used to.
Okay, so our dad, we used toplay Duck Hunt.
Oh yeah.
Super Mario Brothers.
Um.
(20:33):
What?
Nintendo 64.
Yes.
Do you remember library days?
It used to be called Media Day.
No.
I think maybe by that time theyjust called it computer class
for me.
No, but like when we would havelibrary, like a specialist, we
would have library and theywould call it Media Day.
Oh.
(20:55):
No, I would just remember goingto the library after elementary.
Yes, Nathaniel.
When did we stop checking outbooks in school?
I don't know.
Because we obviously had librarya library in high school.
Yeah, but it was more of like anas-needed basis or like to do a
project or something.
We'd have it as part of aspecial?
SPEAKER_01 (21:12):
Not as no, I guess they replaced it with computer
class.
Do you remember the game Snood?
Did you ever play that?
Yeah.
Like the little faces and youhad to aim and get three of
them.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (21:22):
I remember the library at Lenape.
Yeah, I do too.
Well, it was, yeah.
Was there a library inHarrington?
And Hartford.
I don't know.
Okay.
Um, do you remember Angry Birdsand Tetris?
(21:42):
Yes, I do.
Um else?
There's like so many things.
Um, do you remember whenaudiobooks used to be like on a
(22:02):
CD you would people old peoplewould listen to in their car?
SPEAKER_01 (22:05):
Yeah, I was just looking at them over there.
I was also just thinking,because I know we talked about
this for maybe like a 40thbirthday for you, like a 90s
party, and I was saying to umeveryone come dressed in like
colorful tracksuits, and then wehave lunchables, and you said
something, what was it, beaniesand weenies or something?
SPEAKER_04 (22:25):
Wieners and beans.
Oh, it's like it's the Chef BoyRD ones, but it had like a
purple top.
SPEAKER_01 (22:32):
Yeah, I don't remember what you call it.
SPEAKER_04 (22:34):
Okay, so I'm gonna spit off some things to you
while you're looking stuff up.
30 Things that's pre-millennial.
Okay, Hilary Duff and her flipphone.
This is the picture.
Oh, Cinderella story.
Um, dial up internet.
Mm-hmm.
Um, burn oh, burn CDs forfriends.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guys, my car does not have a CDplayer.
Um, I don't I don't know thelast year of cars they made that
(22:56):
had CD players.
Yeah.
But Summer Mix 1999.
I had an entire like catalog ofburned CDs.
Love my CD catalog that youwould put in the visor on your
car.
Yeah, on the side.
Having a CD case was like thething to have.
Yes.
Um, and we used to use BearShare and Limewire.
(23:18):
Sorry guys.
Yeah.
But we all did.
Um, MySpace Top 8.
Yes.
Um, Nokia 3310.
Look.
Oh, I didn't have that.
Um, Tamagotchis.
Oh, yeah, I did have that.
And Furby's.
Yes.
Blockbuster.
Yeah.
R A P truly.
(23:39):
Beepers and pagers.
We didn't have them, but like weknew what they were.
Yeah.
The dance maps from theMacarena.
Oh gosh, yeah.
Um, VHS tapes.
The no cell phone rules inclass.
Do you did you guys have that?
I mean, probably, yeah.
Chalkboard.
How much does that bring youback and all the stuff on the
wall?
Ugh.
(24:00):
Oh.
It's talking right now.
Aim.
Yes.
Burnt popcorn in the microwave.
Check this out.
Ew.
Making MySpace layouts.
Coating.
SPEAKER_03 (24:14):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (24:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (24:15):
The first coding.
Razor scooters.
Yep.
Phone cards.
SPEAKER_04 (24:21):
Do you remember those?
No.
So you um they used to likecharge you um for like long
distance calls.
So people would use prepaidphone cards.
Oh.
Um, psychogenesis and supernintendo.
Napster and LimeWire.
Yes.
Texting in T9.
(24:42):
Oh gosh.
Um, skipping commercials withDVR.
I would just like to say theycould never nowadays text in T9.
Oh, the kids today could neversurvive as a millennial with the
stuff that we did.
Carrying disposable cameras.
I can't guys, guys.
Can I just say on the last dayof school, I would take a
camera, disposable camera.
(25:03):
And every year at the last dayof school, my mom would take me
to Walmart and I would drop offmy camera and have the films
developed.
Oh yeah.
Yes.
And then do you remember digitalcameras?
I do.
Um, the flip foam.
Um, wait.
unknown (25:17):
Oh shit.
SPEAKER_01 (25:19):
What was it called?
The what was it called?
Like when we would go on roadtrips before we had a Garmin.
MapQuest, we would have to printout the directions on the map
quest.
SPEAKER_04 (25:30):
Yes.
And the passenger would have toread them all.
So some like so just the room.
Not more accents than thereshould have been.
Yeah.
Because if you didn't have apassenger, you'd still get
somewhere.
You had to like read it yourselfor like commit it to memory
before you left the house.
Yeah.
Frosted tips.
Oh yeah.
Justin Triblink put that on thespot for us.
(25:51):
Furby.
Pager code.
Oh god.
Then you have to go to yournearest payphone.
Really?
Yeah.
If someone paid you, you have togo to because you the pager is
more so just like a heads up,like someone needs to like it
was like an in-between thing, soyou would have to go to the
payphone to call them.
Oh.
Yeah.
So burning mixes for every mood.
(26:14):
Walkman and disc man.
Oh lord.
Do you remember your um the CDplayer protocol would skip?
Yeah.
And you'd have to take the CDout and clean it with rubbing
almost or your shirt.
Mm-hmm.
And sometimes if I know youdon't like running, but like
whenever I would run with it, itwould skip because it would be.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Um, what else?
The fear of missing out.
I didn't know if FOMO came up inthe back then.
SPEAKER_01 (26:36):
Are they I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (26:37):
Is it just talking about it says general FOMO on
aim?
Yeah.
Um the pog craze.
Do you remember what's that?
You don't remember the pogs?
The circles?
No.
Yes.
And the you would trade them onthe playground and like at
school.
No, you know what?
We had hit clips, hit clips.
(26:59):
Who?
And then the slammers for thesilver bones, they were like the
best thing to get.
Hit clips were like these littlelike 30-second music clips that
you would put in this tiny boombox.
Is it like Vine?
No, it's like um, it would belike in sync or I don't remember
that.
Britney Spear.
You could get them at McDonald'sand you're happy me.
This is a good one.
No social media pressure becausewe didn't well, aim wasn't
(27:21):
really social media because youweren't posting pictures.
The only pressure then wasMySpace top eight.
And like dropping someone tonumber seven.
Yeah.
And it being the end of theworld.
Oh, and here, the rise ofreality TV.
Look, our favorite.
The real world.
Oh.
What is that?
Oh, the hills.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh guys, we love it so much.
(27:42):
We miss it.
Um, I don't remember the hitclips.
They were so cool.
Did you guys were you on wasyour generation?
Yeah, same generation.
Were your people like L Beanpeople?
SPEAKER_01 (27:58):
Yeah, we would get the monograms?
Or the initial backpacks?
SPEAKER_04 (28:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (28:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (28:04):
Um that's all I remember.
What were our lunch boxes like?
Were they brown bag, or did wehave to get like a did you have
like a special lunchbox?
I feel like it was insulated atthat point.
But you know what also we didn'thave growing up and we survived?
We didn't carry water bottleswith us.
Yeah, we would just risk ourlives drinking the water
(28:25):
fountain.
Exactly.
Um, what else?
Um just everything.
Yeah.
MP3 players.
Yeah.
Um crazy time.
iPod, like the original iPod.
Oh my gosh, those things were sosmall.
They really were.
(28:45):
And then remember the reallychunky ones, the clunky ones?
Yeah.
Oh, what was that one called?
Because there's iPod Nano.
Yes.
And then we used to have to sofor Christmas, a lot of our
Christmas gifts used to be theiTunes the iTunes gift cards.
Yeah.
Because I think CDs were like$2.
(29:06):
Because if you just so no CDswere expensive.
But if we went to Tunes, which Ilost going to Tunes, then CDs
were two dollars.
SPEAKER_03 (29:14):
Guys, CDs are also a thing for me.
I used to they used to drop onTuesdays.
SPEAKER_04 (29:18):
Oh.
We would go to I think that'slike the new release date, like
in the in the entertainmentworld.
Like for books too.
Um, Toons.
Oh my god, what is the name ofthe other um music store?
Oh, the chunky one was the iPodClassic.
Music stores.
Sam Goody.
And um XYE.
Yes, that's what it is.
(29:39):
Oh, yeah.
And then Borders used to have amusic section.
Oh yeah.
So it would literally like gothere, whatever my um my dad,
our dad would um take it, go toBorders.
He would get like um ex dummiesor like books or whatever.
Like not X dummies, but likecomputers for dummies.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So he would get that, he wouldread it.
(30:00):
And then I go to the musicsection and get like a CD.
And then I would loved becauseyou so they had like I think
they had sample they had thesample ones playing, like if
they had like um like a CDplayer with the sample with a
they would have a sample out.
Okay, yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And then like I would buy the CDand be like 20 bucks or
whatever, or it'd be on sale.
Yeah.
And then you buy it.
I couldn't wait to get to thecar and open it and read the
(30:21):
booklet in the left because it'slike the lyrics, like the bios.
And their little like picturesand loved that.
Or on iTunes, you can just buy asong, which I think used to not
be expensive, but then theystart going up to like 99 cents,
and they were just like, it's somuch cheaper, quote unquote, to
buy the album.
Yeah.
An artist would do like a littletease, they would just drop a
song or two on iTunes.
(30:43):
Yeah.
Because it wouldn't be the wholealbum yet.
Um, do you remember BeanieBabies?
Do I?
Yes.
I listen, you have a collection,but my absolute favorite one,
Sneaky, he was like a littleleopard.
SPEAKER_01 (30:59):
I think either we I have the same birthday as him or
our cousin did.
And she was like, Oh my gosh,let me take him to school for
like show and tell on the firstday.
And she lost him.
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (31:10):
She lost him.
We love you, babe.
I was so sad.
Do you remember each pretty babyhad a birthday and they had like
a little bio?
Yes.
And it was oh my gosh.
Do you remember um Chia Pets?
Yeah.
And do you remember?
I don't know if we ever did thisin school, but I used to see on
like TV shows, like in healthclass in like middle school, it
(31:30):
was like whenever your weekwants to take home, like a baby
doll, it was like a baby.
SPEAKER_01 (31:34):
I don't think I ever did that.
SPEAKER_04 (31:36):
We didn't either.
They didn't have that at ourschool, but it was like it would
like obviously be like birthcontrol.
That or like an egg.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
Or yeah, we would do the scienceprojects where you would have to
figure out how to make aparachute for an egg and let it
land and not crack.
I was gonna ask, did you guysever do science experiments
where you had to like bringstuff home and it would like
grow or like no, but I want toknow, do they still dissect
(31:58):
creatures?
Can I just tell you?
Eighth grade would dissect afrog.
Yeah.
A frog, and I think was it a cowheart?
One of their four hearts?
Or the four chambers of thefloor?
What's funny?
I still have that smell.
I can still smell theformaldehyde.
No, I can still smell thedissecting of the frog.
I smell the chemicals.
And you just knew it was like itwas like leading updates.
(32:22):
You're gonna be dissecting afrog.
But also, guys, while fiance,um, we saw a bird, and I asked
her if she did an autopsy ornecrepsy.
I think I forget what it'scalled for animals.
Absolutely not.
Um, but I still have that smellin my head.
Um The Scholastic Book Fair.
Yes, um, RJ has that now.
And I was like, I asked yourmom, I was like, Do you remember
those days?
They would send to school like$5because my mom was like$20.
(32:44):
Do you remember this golf game?
Did you ever play this?
No.
Oh my god.
I played on the Wii.
Um, and then wait, somethingelse just popped up too.
This clock that we would use.
Which one?
In class.
Did you ever play?
I do remember that one in class,yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (33:00):
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
Elementary school.
What do I remember forelementary school?
SPEAKER_04 (33:06):
I remember in high school.
What were your favorite lunchdays when we would buy lunch?
Mine was, I think, Tuesdayswhere it was like deli day.
Me and my best friend would do,we would love deli day, and we
get a snapple.
SPEAKER_01 (33:19):
I feel like I would always get my lunch packed, and
then on Friday I would getpizza.
Was it pizza?
Yeah.
What else did they do?
SPEAKER_04 (33:27):
Remember those nasty milk cartons that you'd have to
fold it back and then pop itout.
I never drank.
I know, but like you would seechocolate, or they would come
with orange juice as anotheroption.
Um do you remember they used to,although we mostly packed our
lunch, but like on the specialdays we would like do um we have
to bring cash to buy lunch.
They used to send home like thelunch calendar and you would
hang it on the refrigerator.
(33:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did we did they call themspecials back then or were they
called periods?
Well, I think second period.
But I think they were I thinkthey were specials, like art,
music.
Yes.
Well, we had gym everywhere.
What was music class for us?
It wasn't singing.
SPEAKER_01 (34:05):
Was it like instruments that no, it was just
music, but I think What did wedo?
If you had like I had band.
Oh.
But I can't remember if that wasafter school.
You were in band?
Yeah.
I played the flute in fifth andsixth grade, and I was also in
the choir in fifth and sixthgrade.
SPEAKER_04 (34:28):
What was that?
It was music.
Oh, I had wood shop in eighthgrade in home.
I didn't have oh no, I didn'thave that in eighth grade, but I
I think I had the option forthey called it cooking at that
point.
It wasn't home, but it waseither that or um personal
finance.
And I took personal finance.
I took a business law class inninth grade.
(34:49):
Oh, that's cool.
Do you remember we used to havedrivers out in the trailers?
Yeah, sophomore year.
Yes.
I'm gonna see if our high schoolhas the teachers' names on
there.
Oh, here we go.
Oh my gosh.
Guys, we are on our highschool's website.
SPEAKER_02 (35:10):
Do they have the teachers' names on here?
SPEAKER_01 (35:14):
So excuse me, social studies.
SPEAKER_04 (35:18):
Oh.
SPEAKER_02 (35:21):
We have a 90 96.2 graduation rate.
SPEAKER_01 (35:26):
Oh.
SPEAKER_00 (35:27):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01 (35:29):
I can't remember.
That's annoying.
Wait, is this him?
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (35:37):
Do they have the teachers' names on here?
SPEAKER_00 (35:43):
Staff director.
Let's save anyone that rememberis still there.
SPEAKER_04 (35:47):
AP World History.
Oh yes, who was that?
I can't remember his name.
Were you an AP World History?
I think so.
What made it AP?
Um, I don't know.
Probably just more work.
SPEAKER_02 (36:03):
Um my gosh.
SPEAKER_04 (36:30):
This is crazy because if a lot of people that
we went to school with, youknow, um stayed in the area,
they may become like teachersand stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (36:40):
Yeah.
That's right.
SPEAKER_04 (36:45):
I was oh yes.
Oh my god.
Oh, I literally feel like I wentto school with her.
I recognize that last name.
I do too.
Or maybe she was like a yearahead of me.
Yeah.
Yes! Sure, it was her.
Oh yeah, I didn't have her.
(37:06):
Yes.
I took Spanish.
Oh my gosh.
Did you go to school with her?
No.
Oh, there's an L in there.
We have to There's an L inthere.
Right?
Me.
The girl that you know?
No.
Okay.
I don't know that person.
Guys, we are just we're lovingthis.
(37:27):
We looked at the time and thanksfor sticking around with us.
Hope you felt a little bit ofnostalgia as well.
Yeah.
And like, listen, review, andsubscribe.
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