October 29, 2025 • 50 mins
What if the birthday you plan is really a love letter to yourself? We dive into the messy, funny, and honest side of celebrating as adults—especially after motherhood—where a perfect day might look like a winery flight, three excellent pizzas, and the relief of not hosting. With our cousin Blair in the mix, we trace how birthdays evolve from glow‑stick college parties and $5 covers to intentional, low‑key gatherings that honor who we are now.
We unpack the tension between planning and surprises—why control can feel like protection against being forgotten, and how a good surprise should add to, not replace, a day that’s already yours. Motherhood reshapes the calendar, too: kids’ birthdays feel like your milestone, sleep is gold, and “doing nothing” becomes a worthy plan. From setting boundaries around hosting to embracing found family when you live across the country, we share practical strategies for making your day meaningful without making it a production.
Along the way, we swap stories: the Temecula party bus and the Uber that bailed mid‑ride, a teary 21st at midnight because a cousin wasn’t there, and the food memories that hold our grandparents close—Pop‑Pop’s spaghetti night, Nanny’s gift‑bag magic, and the pasta salad that gets requested all summer. If you’ve ever wanted to be celebrated but struggled to ask, this conversation is your permission slip.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:04):
Welcome to Turn the Page Podcast.
Sisters, best friends, andbrunch enthusiasts with
relatable episodes that feellike you're chatting with two of
your closest friends or sisters.
Join us as we turn the page ondifferent topics about losing
yourself in motherhood,adulthood, anyhood.
SPEAKER_03 (00:22):
And finding yourself again through meaningful
friendships, shameless piles ofunread library books, and
endless Amazon packagedeliveries.
SPEAKER_04 (00:30):
Real, honest, and a little bit chaotic.
SPEAKER_02 (00:33):
We talk about it all.
So grab your favorite drink, putthe kids to bed, lace up your
sneaks or whatever you need todo and join us.
We can't wait to connect withyou.
Hi guys, welcome to Turn thePage Podcast.
This is your ghost, co-host,Tawana Page.
SPEAKER_03 (00:46):
This is your other co-host, Sheree Page Barber.
Um, and we have a guest, one ofour cousins, Blair Warwick.
I'm here.
I'm so excited.
Yeah, yeah.
We love you.
SPEAKER_04 (00:59):
Um, do you want to do an intro?
SPEAKER_03 (01:04):
Um, not really, only because I don't know what I
would say.
Like maybe I'm your cousin.
That's all I got.
Fair enough.
I mean, our dad and your mom arebrother and sister.
That's how we're connected.
Yes, I have two sisters.
I have two sisters.
I'm the oldest.
Yeah.
I mean, oh, actually, it'sreally funny because I was
(01:24):
thinking about this the otherday how Sheree and I are only a
couple months apart, and it'slike sometimes we were like
treated like twins, not so muchthat everyone saw us as one, but
we would get lumped together.
So I guess that's a fun factthat we're similar in age.
SPEAKER_04 (01:40):
But that's we are um also on brand, because this
episode is about birthdays.
You also have an Octoberbirthday on October 14th.
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (01:52):
And I'm October Libra in the house, and my
birthday is tomorrow, October5th, but when this comes out,
it'll be well past then.
But this birth this podcast isabout birthdays, so we're all on
it.
We are on brand, and fun factthat we have the same birthday
month, but we are separatesigns, but we're still cousins,
(02:12):
and it's cool.
SPEAKER_02 (02:13):
We still always have the same birthday month.
We're still cousins.
SPEAKER_03 (02:16):
Yeah, do you wanna um I'm curious if you were gonna
share how you celebrated yourbirthday?
Oh, absolutely.
Okay, so I went to a winery witha few friends from work and
Sheree.
So fun.
It was fun, it was low-key.
SPEAKER_02 (02:32):
We had the winery specializes in brick oven pizza,
which was so good.
SPEAKER_03 (02:36):
Oh, I didn't know that part.
So it was brick oven pizza andwine, and they only have three
pizzas.
It's margarita, mushroom, andpepperoni.
Um, we got all three.
We did a wine tasting beforethat, and it was just really
good.
SPEAKER_02 (02:51):
It was fun, it was low-key.
SPEAKER_04 (02:53):
Sweet little um family dogs room, the property.
SPEAKER_02 (02:56):
Yes, the owner's dog's room.
SPEAKER_04 (02:57):
Oh my god, it was so cute.
And it is cute.
SPEAKER_03 (03:00):
Wait, I love I love wineries for birthdays.
I love that.
SPEAKER_04 (03:05):
Yeah, I think it's definitely the vibe for 30s for
sure.
Yeah, I mean, but you did it.
You weren't 30 yet.
SPEAKER_03 (03:11):
Was that your we talked about that?
SPEAKER_04 (03:13):
330.
We talked about that.
SPEAKER_03 (03:15):
Uh-huh.
We're like, we went to visit ourcousin for her birthday end of
October, and I was like, we wentto Temecula.
Yes, we did.
We so it was just after COVID,and I got a party bus because I
was like, we need to startliving again.
And also the prices were socheap because it was right out
of COVID that they probably justwanted people to use their
(03:35):
services.
And it's so crazy because I didthink about this the other day,
and it's not funny, but I waslike, what are the chances that
this is how it would turn outwhen you when you guys came
back?
You didn't take the bus backwith us.
It was the two of you.
Yeah, it was me and something,yes.
Yeah, and you guys had taken anUber and the ride back to my
(03:58):
apartment literally, uh, theride in total was probably 45 to
an hour.
And you guys had never taken anUber before, and I was like,
it's totally fine, even thoughit was later on at night.
But you were with Cynthia, andyou guys get in the car.
I don't even know how long youwere in the car for, but the
driver just ditched you in themiddle of the ride.
(04:21):
Can I remember?
It was a woman, yeah.
She did.
She dropped you at a hotelbecause she was like, I'm sorry,
it's too far to take you.
SPEAKER_04 (04:30):
At the hotel at the motel.
Do you remember that?
He was like, Oh, yourdestination is gonna take me
like two hours to get together.
And I have kids, something withmy kids.
So, like, yes, can I just dropyou off here and like hopefully
you guys find another ride?
We were like, What?
SPEAKER_03 (04:49):
And then I what I I feel like I remember like you
guys didn't really have stronglike Wi-Fi or cell reception,
something where it was justharder to get another one.
And by the time we had gottenback with the bus, I remember
we're walking, and I just hadn'tgotten a text from you guys yet
that you were back.
And I started to see myapartment and the lights weren't
on, and I'm like, somethingfeels weird.
(05:10):
Like, where are they?
Why aren't they here yet?
And I call and I found out, andI was like, Okay, I really hope
that this doesn't turn you guysoff of Ubers because this is not
what it's like.
SPEAKER_01 (05:21):
We had a guy, right?
SPEAKER_03 (05:23):
A guy, a guy in an SUV, he was super cool, and the
whole way, because I was myoldest was three at the time,
and then I was just found outthe day before I left that I was
seven weeks pregnant with mysecond, told you and your two
sisters that you called thatday, like when we got there,
(05:43):
that obviously I couldn't drink.
So I was like, Cynthia, I'mpregnant, I'm a mother.
Like, what is going on?
SPEAKER_02 (05:51):
And it's um my niece Cherie's daughter was not born
yet, so she was like, What areyou talking about?
She was like, You'll be fine.
I was like, Cynthia, I'm amother!
SPEAKER_03 (06:00):
Like, I can't be out here on these streets like this.
Yeah, it was crazy.
It was super scary, but guys,this is a segue into our episode
today, which is about birthdays.
Well, first we have this orthat.
We do have a this or that guestfashion.
So, um, white or red wine?
Oh, white.
Oh, whites right here, a littleASMR for you.
(06:22):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (06:24):
Here, let's love it, love it.
Um, yeah, I mean, I like asweet, so I'll drink any color
as long as I I I swing anycolor.
I swing white, I would say.
SPEAKER_03 (06:36):
Yeah.
I think sweet, sweet reallymakes my head hurt now.
So a little bit dry, but I likeit.
Does I like the different flav,like not the floral, maybe the
floral, like things that seemsweet but aren't as sweet.
Does that make sense?
unknown (06:53):
It does.
SPEAKER_04 (06:53):
It does.
SPEAKER_03 (06:54):
That's what I lean towards.
SPEAKER_04 (06:55):
Or like, I like the citrusy.
SPEAKER_03 (06:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (06:58):
But I think that it's got a little bit of um
maybe the floral or like thevanilla.
Like the sweet.
It's like not sweet like a rose,but it's sweet enough.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Um, do we like to go out or stayin for our birthday?
SPEAKER_03 (07:16):
Um, so I will say I went out for my birthday this
year.
I don't always love it.
SPEAKER_02 (07:20):
I planned it.
Um, I liked going out, it waslow-key, but I also don't mind
staying in.
It just depends on how I'mfeeling.
SPEAKER_03 (07:31):
Yeah, I was gonna say either or, but then if I was
honest with myself, like lookingback, I don't know, probably
since college, I like to go outevery single time.
Yeah, every single time.
Like, but uh but the energy isalways a little bit different.
(07:54):
Like for my 30th, which I wassad you guys weren't there or
couldn't go, but oh yeah, Hawaiigot a house.
Well, it was gonna be Hawaii,but then there were the fires,
so had to pivot.
Went to Malibu instead.
It was really nice.
Right, it was so calm, likemassages, facials, like the
winery there, again, anotherwinery, so nice.
Um, and then last year, Shricame to visit, super chill.
(08:22):
We went to Julian, which Idon't, I mean, I don't know if a
lot of people know what Julianis like.
It's close by to San Diego,Southern California, and you go
and it's like it's in themountains, but it's not that
high up, but there's anoticeable difference, and it
actually felt like fall, theleaves were changing colors, it
was really chilly.
And that was for your birthday.
I feel like that's so youwouldn't think around that time.
(08:44):
You would think that all thetime in Southern California, we
call it second summer, it'sreally hot here, so we're always
usually sweating, but yeah,whether it's just like dinner or
doing something really fun, I dolike to go out.
Honestly, on my birthday, I liketo dance, I really do, unless
I'm trying to chill, and then Ijust want to go to dinner.
(09:05):
Yeah, I do.
What about you, She?
SPEAKER_04 (09:09):
I think I go out.
I was just telling your friendtoday because I'm usually I
hibernate, I would say, fromlike November to uh March slash
April to May.
It's my like you're coming outhere, yeah.
Yeah, out of the crater and likeeverything's happy, yeah.
So I but I'm not like a go out,like I'll do like a small
gathering, but it's like out ofthe house, like I'm like
(09:31):
something.
Um yeah, so then the last one issurprise or planned.
Do we like surprises?
SPEAKER_03 (09:43):
No, I like a plan because I planned this, yeah,
but the gifts that I got todaywere a complete surprise, and I
loved it.
And I was just really happy thatlike the people that came, like
it was a small group, but it waslike perfect.
Like we were all like air signsand also like sun and moon, like
(10:07):
it was just it was a perfectfit.
Like everybody was kizmittedchill, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (10:13):
And I obviously talk about my sister at work all the
time, and I'm just like, youguys are gonna love her, and it
was vice versa point, and thenwe mentioned you obviously and
your sisters, but I'm like, likeif you were there, you would
have been like, Yep, this wouldhave matched up as well.
SPEAKER_03 (10:31):
Yeah, I when you said that I was thinking it's
kind of hard because I feel likeI don't like to ask people for
things when it comes to mybirthday, so I like to plan it
all.
SPEAKER_02 (10:42):
Well, take that back.
My sister mom asked me what Iwanted for birthday, and like I
sent them ideas.
SPEAKER_03 (10:48):
Um no, that's uh honestly, I commend you for that
because I'm trying to be morethat way, like so.
But my friend and her sister whowho came gave me a fresh bouquet
of flowers.
Oh, that's so sweet, and I'minto fresh flowers now.
(11:09):
Those are the only things I'llaccept into my home because of
your cousin and my sister, yeah.
Because her friend took a classand I'm like really into it.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (11:21):
But guess what?
Go ahead and finish what yousaid.
SPEAKER_03 (11:29):
Um, I'm really free.
I don't even know.
I'm still here.
Can you hear me?
Okay, great.
SPEAKER_04 (11:37):
Um what do you mean?
I'm already here.
You're there.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (11:50):
L O L.
Alright, well, I'm gonna keeptalking until they can hear me
again.
Oh, you know, you're not gonnahear.
SPEAKER_04 (11:57):
Oh, yeah, it just went out for a second.
Have you?
SPEAKER_03 (11:59):
I'm so sorry, but have you ever seen the news clip
of um Courtney and Kardashianand they ask her a question and
she doesn't want to answer, soshe just freezes and it looks
like they're like, did we loseyou?
SPEAKER_04 (12:10):
Courtney, are you there?
That's what I thought washappening.
SPEAKER_03 (12:15):
No, I haven't seen that.
I'm gonna have to look that up.
But um, in terms of surprisingversus planning, I think it's an
issue of like control versus nocontrol because I don't want to
feel forgotten or let down, likeany of those things.
But at this point, it's likeobviously friends and family
(12:35):
know you and love you, like thatthe likelihood that that's gonna
happen is so low, but still Ican't release that as much as I
want to.
So I like to plan everything.
I don't always ask people forreally anything other than to
just like show up and have agood time and enjoy themselves.
But secretly, deep down, I'vealways wanted a surprise
(12:58):
birthday, but not in the sensewhere it seems like everybody
forgot my birthday.
I'm sorry, that sounds liketorture.
Like, oh, you're so sad all day,but just wait.
No, I don't want to wait.
Like, how about I enjoy my dayand then you surprise me with
something else?
That'd be nice.
SPEAKER_00 (13:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (13:15):
Can I just say for my 40th next year, I am having a
90s vibe party.
SPEAKER_03 (13:22):
100%.
I have a denim bucket hat thatI've been wanting to wear.
So perfect, yeah.
Perfect.
That's your entry fee.
SPEAKER_04 (13:33):
Um on the pad today, we're talking about birthdays,
all things birthdays.
I didn't answer.
I thought you did.
I didn't.
Okay, so please please check.
Please check.
I'm trying.
I'm gonna think.
Okay.
Um have you ever had a surpriseparty?
I don't think so.
Okay.
And that like that's okay.
(13:53):
I think it's nice, but I don'tknow.
Planning is cool too, becausethen you just know who's gonna
be there and what's gonnahappen.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Um, so yeah, birthdays.
Birthdays, birthdays.
Hold on.
SPEAKER_02 (14:06):
Let me get the so when this comes out, it'll be
past my birthday.
I'm probably closer to Blair's,but my birthday is tomorrow,
October 5th.
SPEAKER_03 (14:14):
Yeah, what are you gonna do on the actual day?
Obviously, you celebrated today,just before at the winery, but
like, do you have plans fortomorrow?
SPEAKER_02 (14:23):
No, the boys have swim class on Sunday, so it
happens to follow my birthday.
I'm just gonna chill.
SPEAKER_03 (14:28):
That's nice.
SPEAKER_02 (14:28):
I mean, that's all I really want.
SPEAKER_03 (14:29):
I mean, yeah, today was cool.
I liked it.
Wait, I have a question aboutthat for both of you guys.
I'm curious how birthdays havechanged now that you're mom's,
whether it's your own birthdayor their birthdays, whether it's
planning for them or how excitedthey get.
You know what I mean?
Or like even like your ownbirthday, like you said, like
(14:50):
you're gonna be at the pool withthe kids.
So I don't know.
So for their birthdays, it feelslike my birthday because I was
there, you know.
Um actually, sorry, let meinterrupt you for a second.
That's so real.
Like the birthday you guysshould be celebrated on the
birthday.
I just thought about that maybetwo weeks ago.
It took me 31 years to get tothe point of like I celebrate my
(15:12):
birthday, I didn't do anything.
Like my mom did all the work.
Maybe I should be celebratingher on my birthday, but anyway,
keep going.
So they came out of me on youknow, play.
SPEAKER_02 (15:24):
Um, both of them.
And I should be so like I'mcelebrated as well.
I celebrate myself on theirbirthday because I was there.
I was of course fully fullypresent.
They came out of me.
Um, on my actual birthday as amom, I feel as though I don't
(15:45):
really need to go like full out.
SPEAKER_03 (15:46):
Like, I went full out today.
SPEAKER_02 (15:48):
Um I mean, they're home with dad today, which is
fine.
Um, I'll just hang out witheveryone tomorrow.
I feel like the older I get, Idon't really like need like
fancy, flashy things, just likeintentional like things.
And a lot of people couldn'tcome to my birthday party today,
but it's like because they wereout of town or because they had
(16:09):
other plans.
Like I fully knew that peoplehave have lives outside of like
celebrating my birthday, butlike yeah, the ones that got
back to me were like, wish Icould make it, but like I have
other things planned.
Like, I'm just like, please havefun.
So it's like it was intentional,like made me sad, of course, but
um like people that were therehad like uh I had an amazing
time, it was a blast.
SPEAKER_03 (16:30):
Yeah, um and I like intimate, and I like my full
reason for for invitingeverybody was to introduce them
to my sister because they talkabout her, talk about her all
the time, and I was like, I justwant you to introduce them to my
sister.
SPEAKER_02 (16:49):
Um they loved her, of course, obviously.
SPEAKER_03 (16:52):
I my first birthday as a mom, I just cried.
SPEAKER_04 (16:57):
Did you?
Yeah, because I was like, thisdoesn't feel she was six months,
almost six months, yeah.
So we were still deep in thetrenches, yeah.
Um it just felt different, andlike I don't like to make a big
fuss about it, but I at leastlike for it to be acknowledged
in the hall.
So like maybe I'd like to readthe bed all day or like whatever
it is, and that wasn't an optionbecause it was a weekend, and
(17:19):
obviously, like Brandon worksweekends, yeah.
Um so I think as the years havegone on, I've just tried to be
more intentional.
Like this year, we did thewinery thing too.
Yep.
Um, and last year's mybachelorette.
I mean, I don't think anythingwill talk about it.
SPEAKER_03 (17:36):
Which obviously you were there for it.
Of course, of course.
So obviously you wouldn't missit.
You'd have missed the wedding,you and your sister, you or your
sisters or your family,whatever.
But like, but you're talkingabout that at my birthday party
today.
It's like the her bachelor partywas so freaking fun.
So fun.
It was so fun.
(17:57):
Yeah, that's a good question,though.
I mean I mean went to a winery.
I forgot about that.
Of course.
So it was so fun.
SPEAKER_04 (18:04):
Does it feel different for you being for I
feel like you've made like yourfamily out there, but does it
feel different for you beingaway from family because it's
out there now?
SPEAKER_03 (18:14):
Yeah, Taylor is out here, but for this year, it is
comments.
I feel like no, no hate or shadeto her at all.
No hate or shade to anybody,actually.
Yeah, but I set this expectationand boundary for myself that I
will not be hosting anybody formy birthday this year because I
have hosted people like in myliving space, probably for the
(18:36):
past four years.
Um and it's really nice, but atthe end of the weekend, I'm
always really exhausted.
And then it yeah, it's fun andfulfilling, but it doesn't, it's
just go, go, go.
So I was like, you know what?
I'm gonna take a little bit of abreak and it'll be great.
So I'm gonna see her the weekendbefore.
But I think part of the reasonwhy that happened is because I
(18:57):
did always miss having peoplethat I felt really close and
connected to.
Like I lived out here almost 10years now.
SPEAKER_02 (19:04):
And oh my god, it's been 10 years.
SPEAKER_03 (19:06):
Almost I know I moved out here in 2016, and so
in the beginning, it was a lotof like uh, like you said,
creating connections, like thisis my family away from family.
So it was, and we were young,like 22, 23.
So we were going out a lot.
Not that it wasn't meaningful,but it was very not even like
(19:30):
surface level, that feels rudeto say.
It was just different, and um itwas like a little chaotic, like
and wanted people around thatknew me really well, and I was
still getting to know thesepeople.
So at a certain point, I alwayshad somebody come visit for my
birthday, whether it was youguys or sh or Shri, please.
(19:50):
I'm looking at you, sure.
Whether it was you guys orSophia or Jamira, yeah, my
family, then it was really nice.
So yeah, it's interestingbecause now too, I do like
planning my birthday, but it'sfunny because I feel like I'm
practicing for when I have kidsbecause I figure myself, it's
(20:10):
not like, oh, I want to havethis big grand event.
I'm like, no, but I do want tofigure out the best way to plan
something that might meeteverybody's needs, and it's like
a cute, fun thing.
How can I get creative with it?
Because when I have kids, I feellike this is the part that I'm
really gonna enjoy, maybe onceonce they're like three and
above.
(20:31):
Um but yeah, so I think aboutthat, and it's changed over the
years because I'm like, where'smy family?
Isn't anyone here?
Which, yeah, also not to go onanother tangent, but what I
thought about the other day wasmy 21st birthday.
Yes, and why do I bring this up?
You ask?
Well, like I said before, Sriand I, when we were younger, we
(20:52):
did everything together.
Shri, I don't know if youremember this, but I'm sure the
second I say this, you're gonnaremember.
So on a my 21st birthday,obviously, well, I guess it's
not obvious, but I'm a couplemonths older than Shri, so she
wasn't able to come because wewere all gonna go to the bars
and like all this stuff.
And uh we had a pregame and itwas so fun.
(21:12):
And the whole point was to waituntil midnight, obviously, so
that I could use my ID and getin, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
Very ceremonious.
Everything's fine, okay.
We go inside the bar, I sitdown, I start crying.
The bartender looks at me andhe's like, Wait, what?
And then one of my friends comeup comes over and the bartender
(21:35):
looks at him and he's like, Isshe okay?
And he's like, Yeah, she'stotally fine.
And then he looks at me and he'slike, Oh my god, are you okay?
And I go, No, but yes, becauselike Cherie's not here.
And that I was close with thisguy, but like not that close.
So he didn't know who you were.
And he's like, Who is Cherie?
I'm like, she's my cousin.
(21:56):
We do everything together, andshe's not here.
I'm so upset.
And he's like, uh, okay.
And I'm like, yeah, I gotta callher, Toronto.
I called Cherie in the dead ofnight.
Yeah, and she picked up and shepicked up and she's like, Hello,
is everything okay?
And I go back, still crying.
(22:16):
I'm like, Yeah, but like you'renot here, and it's so sad
because we're supposed to doeverything together.
And I'm pretty sure Brandon wasthere too, and you were like,
Yeah, no, she's good.
He's like, Is everything okay?
Having a moment, I do rememberthat.
I was like, Where are you?
You're like, I'm in a bar.
SPEAKER_04 (22:40):
Like, are you alone?
SPEAKER_03 (22:41):
They were literally all around.
I was just like, Shuri isn'there.
And then after I talked to you,I was fine.
And I was like, All right, well,yeah, good night.
And then went right back to it.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (22:53):
But I feel like the next birthday of yours, we had
to get because it was theHalloween party for what's it
called?
Your frat.
SPEAKER_03 (23:00):
Oh, I'm sorry, it was like when you were when what
when we came to visit you?
Sorry, yeah, it was when youcame to visit.
No, it was before it was before.
I think I I was turning 20.
So it was the first time me andLily threw a birthday party
because her birthday is also inOctober.
And so we were like, okay, yes,and we were like, let's plan our
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birthday right in the middle ofboth of ours.
We'll throw a party.
We charged a cover, okay?
We got all of this black light.
We made it uh-huh, yeah, yes,and we made the jungle juice
like glow in the dark.
I don't even remember how we didthat, but we were like, let's
get ring pop so you can dip itin the jungle juice, and then
like your mouth and your tonguewill also glow in the black
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light.
Oh my god, it was so crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (23:46):
And you want to know what?
No, go ahead.
SPEAKER_03 (23:50):
No, because we might say the same thing.
I just remember getting a textfrom my mother being like, So I
heard you're throwing a party.
I said, How do you know aboutthat?
She's like, Well, Aunt Daisytold me.
I hope okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That makes sense.
They probably told her.
SPEAKER_01 (24:07):
I love it.
SPEAKER_02 (24:12):
And we we walked to the Halloween party you were
having.
I think I was like, so you werehow old were you?
SPEAKER_03 (24:21):
I think I was turning 20.
SPEAKER_02 (24:23):
So I was like 27, and everybody there was like
your age.
They were like, oh my gosh, likeyou're so cool.
Like, and I was like, what?
Like, that's so weird.
And then Shri and I were likehaving so much fun, then we're
like, you know what?
We want to go home because we'resuper tired.
SPEAKER_03 (24:41):
So we home was your dorm.
SPEAKER_02 (24:44):
So it was freezing because your birthday's the the
end of October.
We were freezing, we walkedback.
We walked probably like I don'teven know how we got there, but
I remember walking back.
We walked like probably over amile there.
SPEAKER_03 (24:55):
Definitely it was far.
It was your dorm room, yeah.
Your dorm room, and we got inher bed, and like 2 a.m., Shri
and I were just like looking ateach other.
We were like, We're hungry.
Yeah, we ordered cheesecakes,and we were we were like, What
are we gonna do?
She was like, We can order food.
SPEAKER_02 (25:11):
I was like, Finally, I think that's when Girl Pub is
still kind of like nursery, kindof still like like on college
campuses, yeah.
And we were like, Okay, what dowe do?
So we ordered it, and then youweren't even back yet.
So we ordered our food, we ate,and I think we saw you like the
next morning, and we were justlike, Yeah, you were like,
Where'd you guys go?
SPEAKER_03 (25:29):
We were like, we were tired and hungry, and we
slept in your bed.
And so funny, it's so funnybecause I remember the next day
of like, okay, they're at myapartment, but I don't remember
when you left.
And I just knew that I wasn'table to leave because we were
host, me and Lily were hostingit, but we were at we were at
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one of our friends' houses, andI felt so bad because she was
really nervous because she waslike, Listen, we've already
gotten so many warnings, like itcan't get loud, the cops can't
come.
All this stuff, we're like,please, please, please, like we
promise it won't be bad, we'llbe fine.
We're like, we'll get like noisecanceling stuff for the windows,
like all of this stuff.
And then at a certain point, Ithought the cops did come up
(26:11):
freaking out.
Like for everybody, I might itwas a little bit later, but like
for anybody who doesn't know,like I very much still like to
follow the rules.
Like I didn't drink for a verylong time.
So, like, right around 20 iswhen I started, and I was just
like, Oh my god, you guys, thisis so scary.
And everyone around was like,Blair, please chill out.
(26:31):
Like, it's fine.
And it was fine, it was fine,also to say, but I didn't
remember when you guys had left.
Um, and I knew that I needed tostay because she was so nice in
letting us use her house that Iwanted to clean up after.
So I stayed till the end untileverybody left.
I was like, let me count howmuch money we made today.
Because we wanted to make wewanted to make the money so that
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just in the event, well, one, wespent money, but two, just in
case they got a fine, we wantedto be able to pay it for them,
which is so wild.
I'm like, not us running abusiness, low-key.
Like, that's kind of crazy.
I remember standing at the frontbeing like, Do you have your
five dollars?
SPEAKER_01 (27:12):
Yeah, I remember being like, We want to go back,
Sheree, but like, but I can'tleave now.
SPEAKER_03 (27:17):
Like, what do we do?
Yeah, and I can't remember howwe got there.
Did you give us your key ormaybe one of your key because
either I gave you the key orhonestly, Esha was probably
home.
I feel like he was there.
And Shri and I was like, we haveto walk back.
So we literally it probablywasn't even that long, but it
was crazy.
(27:38):
It was long, it was long, andhonestly, I'm proud that you
guys found it.
SPEAKER_01 (27:42):
Yeah, we were proud too, we were not fully there,
yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (27:47):
And we finally not fully there, but like even I
didn't even know where thishouse was.
Like, I'm glad that I was withLily because this it was, I
mean, she was friends with bothof us, but she was closer with
Lily.
So Lily had been there before.
I was like, I don't know how toget home.
I'm just gonna follow her.
SPEAKER_02 (28:02):
No, I love that, but that also segues into um my one
of my coworkers was like, Oh,like your birthday's coming.
I'm like, Oh, it's Twana'sbirthday side note, and I was
like, Yeah, and they were like,Oh, what like what kind of food
do you like?
And I was like, Oh, I'll getback to you.
They were just like, I was like,I don't want to make a big deal.
They were like bunching, and Iwas like, my thing is like I
(28:26):
don't like to be celebrated, butlike I kind of low-key do.
Um, so yeah, I was gonna I washappy that like my friends that
showed up today showed up, andlike the ones that couldn't,
like, it wasn't like, oh, Idon't like you, it was just
because that they had legit likeplans.
Like some people have likefailing number birthdays, like
they were out of town, likestuff that had already planned.
(28:47):
And I was just like thinkingback to like Harrison's like um
lunch that I had when I waspregnant with him, like so many
people showed up for that.
And I was just like, it's notbecause of me, I was like, it's
because they have like it'slife, like they have things to
do.
SPEAKER_03 (29:02):
And that's the thing too.
I feel like it's not like yes,you know that, but even knowing
that doesn't always make iteasier to ask people to show up
for you, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04 (29:13):
Like dancing not feel sad if they're not able to,
yeah.
If they're not able to like,yeah, it's important to be able
to do it.
SPEAKER_02 (29:18):
Because part of me feels like I'm like, yeah, yeah,
and I was like, Yeah, I'mexcited, and I was like, I'm
manifesting like good vibes,like it was so much fun, like we
had so much fun.
I love it.
It was like an intimategathering, and like I love the
people that came and love thepeople that couldn't come also.
But I'm just like, I know peoplea lot of people text me tomorrow
my birthday, but I'm also justlike low key love to be
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celebrated, but also low keydon't like to admit that I don't
like to be celebrated.
My co worker was like, She likesto be celebrated, but she won't
admit it, so yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (29:50):
Oh, I it's the hardest part, at least for me.
I'm like, why would I tell you Iwant you to celebrate me?
It's like because you don't wantto seem like need.
SPEAKER_02 (30:00):
And like selfish, and I'm like, no, it's my
birthday.
Like, I deserve to becelebrated.
Like, I'm amazing.
I may come off as cocky, butit's just like I've been this
way for 39 years.
SPEAKER_03 (30:14):
Almost 39 years.
Like, I deserve to becelebrated.
And the people that know mecelebrate me.
And like, I literally lovecelebrating people's birthdays.
Like, I love it.
I told Sheree that.
Like, she's told me that like inthe years past.
It's like, if you tell me yourbirthday one time, I'll remember
forever.
And it's just like, she'sliterally birthdays are your
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thing.
SPEAKER_02 (30:36):
She's like, I hope you feel as celebrated as you
celebrate other people on theirbirthday.
SPEAKER_03 (30:41):
Because I'm just like, it's just like my thing.
SPEAKER_04 (30:44):
Yeah, I just love celebrating people.
SPEAKER_03 (30:47):
Me too, honestly.
SPEAKER_04 (30:48):
I just love celebrating people.
Wait, hold on.
You're gonna be able to do that.
Wait, wait, wait.
Let me share a thought.
Okay, please don't please.
Um, okay, so if you couldbecause this is from your list.
Oh, yeah.
If you had to give advice to theyounger self at a milestone age,
(31:09):
what would it be?
And what age would you pick?
SPEAKER_03 (31:11):
Oh, that's a good one.
Um, okay, this is really random.
And I don't remember the well,not okay, whatever it's a
milestone in my head at thispoint now, it's every five
intervals.
So, like 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55.
You know what I mean?
So there's there's always moreto come.
(31:31):
But one thing that I did thinkabout actually when you said
that, I don't remember the agethat I was, but it was back
probably like beginning ofcollege.
Um, and it was back whenFacebook was really popping off.
And seeing how many people wouldum write on your wall for your
birthday one year.
One year I remember Neri, aFacebook post insight.
(31:56):
Nobody wrote on my wall.
I honestly, I think it was myfreshman year, and I was I was
in my head about it.
I was like, wait a second, likeI know I don't talk to that many
people, but like I've gotfriends, like I've got people.
What's going on?
It was so crazy.
And I was like, okay, I guessI'll just like leave it alone.
Like it's totally fine,whatever.
(32:17):
And I was getting really upsetabout it, but I didn't say
anything to anybody.
Then randomly, my mom texts meat the end of the day, and she
goes, Hey, I was trying to writeon your Facebook wall, but you
turned off the option for peopleto write on it.
Make sure you turn that on.
SPEAKER_01 (32:32):
I go, Excuse me?
SPEAKER_03 (32:35):
I missed, like, I essentially rejected everybody's
wanting to wish me a happybirthday.
Exactly.
And no, and so if I could goback in time, I would literally
tell freshman year me, hey, turnyour wall on for Facebook so
people can write on it.
And you can, like, okay, life isnot about external validation,
but was I counting the number ofpeople that wrote?
(32:57):
Hell yeah, I was.
I wanted to see how many peoplewere gonna write to me,
especially after high school.
It was like, yeah, you see mepopping off in college.
Literally, I wasn't popping off.
I was always in my room watchingNew Girl, but anyway, it's not
the point.
Um, I wanted to see how manypeople wanted to reach out to
me, you know.
So I literally, yeah.
That's what I would tell myself.
SPEAKER_02 (33:17):
I freaking agree.
I know people that like turnoff, like specifically around
their birthdays, like um, likethings to sign on their wall.
But I think it's funny, like youdidn't realize that you had done
that.
SPEAKER_03 (33:30):
No, and I was so upset.
I was like, nobody likes me.
I just we'll just I love it.
Celebrate alone.
The worst.
I love it.
Um I mean, I just love thebirthdays.
What advice would you giveyourself?
Oh for like one of the birthdaysin the past.
(33:51):
Oh, I feel like I would say thatit's okay to if it's just you
celebrating, it's okay tocelebrate you.
Yeah, maybe I should havelistened to that too.
SPEAKER_02 (34:07):
I mean, I'm still learning, only 39.
But I literally just feel likelike my friend, one of my
friends there today asked me,she was like, Are you reflecting
on anything like for likeupcoming on like is your last
year in this decade?
And I was like, you know what?
That's a good question.
Because she's like, I reflectlike coming into a decade and
like leaving a decade becauseit's like things are coming and
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things we've learned.
And my one thing is liketrusting my gut more, and also
only having people in my lifelike adults that know how to
manage their own emotions.
Okay, yes, here, here.
SPEAKER_03 (34:45):
Yes, yes.
So I feel like for me, my advicewould just be like just
celebrate you, like you areawesome as you.
SPEAKER_02 (34:55):
Um I don't know, I just I was like learning to love
myself more, like three, likeI'm about to be well 40 next
year, but still.
SPEAKER_03 (35:04):
It's like yeah, it's like wild.
I know it's so crazy becauseactually, let me tell you this.
Maybe I already told you, but Iwas talking to Peyton, and it's
so funny because I mean, I guessit's not funny, but like she was
like, Well, yeah, like isn'tTawana 32?
And I go, in the kindest way,like I'm about to be 32.
(35:26):
She's like, I was and yeah, I'mlike, and Tawana's seven years
older than me, so no, yeah.
Not anymore than that.
But then she looks at me andshe's like, You're gonna be 32.
I was like, first of all, nottoo much on me, okay?
But yes, I am.
SPEAKER_02 (35:43):
I will say that I always look at you girls like
Sheree and like Blair, and likeyour Blair or Blair, yes, Blair,
and Taylor and Peyton is likealways like my younger sister
and cousins, and like alwayslike the younger ages.
So it makes sense to me that shethought I was like still 32
because for the longest timeTaylor always thought I was 23.
SPEAKER_03 (36:06):
That's so funny.
Like, I don't even remember what23 was like how old would I have
been?
16, I guess.
Yes, yeah, and I'm like, like,didn't register to me then that
you were 23.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (36:18):
Yeah, and like even today at the my birthday
celebration, people are like,You're seven and a half years
apart.
I was like, Yeah, like we'recloser now that we're older, but
like thinking back, it's justlike she like we're in the same
decade now, like in the city.
SPEAKER_03 (36:32):
There's such a big gap though.
SPEAKER_02 (36:34):
But I'm just like, my cousins are like in their 20s
and 30s.
I'm like, I remember I waspicking picking them up out of
the crib.
SPEAKER_03 (36:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Wild when like you grow up.
Wait, because what's the age gapbetween you and Peyton?
Is it 15?
Um because for me, me andPeyton, it's eight.
So I'm 86, she's 2001, so it'swhat?
Yeah, 15.
That's wild.
15, yeah.
That's crazy.
That is so insane.
SPEAKER_02 (37:03):
But it's just like even at like Siri's wedding, I
was like, I have a picture atwork of like the five of us, the
like some of the picture of thefive of us, and I'm just like,
oh my gosh, like we were likefull-grown women.
This was just last year, andthey're still my younger
cousins.
SPEAKER_03 (37:20):
I know.
Wait, actually, I was thinkingabout like random memories when
you were just got not like thislike elusive abstract figure,
but kind of because you're justlike the older cousin who wasn't
always around, but like youwere, but you're so cool, and
like we weren't really talkingto you.
Um, and two memories came tomind, okay?
(37:43):
Maybe three, but the first onewas when you helped us when I
thought we were gonna get in somuch trouble with your mom.
Me and she spilled it.
Yep, we spilled like, oh my god,it was just water.
Like we could have just thoughtfor a second.
We spilled water in the familyroom, yes, and we were freaking
out, and you're like, just put apillow over it.
And I was like, Oh my god, she'sso smart.
(38:03):
And then she did, and then wedid, and then a couple minutes
went by.
Obviously, because of how thingswork, the water dried up, so it
was gone.
But then your mom came home, orshe just came into the room,
she's like, Why is this pillowon the ground?
I it was like one of thoseepisodes of a TV show where you
have like the dramatic music oflike, Oh my god, they're gonna
find us out.
And I just saw her going down topick up the pillow, and I was
(38:24):
like, This is it, this is it.
She picks it up, there's nostain.
It's a wrap of it, it's water,yeah.
Literally, that's what Ithought.
And then she was like, Girls,why are you leaving the pillows
around?
We're like, I don't know, justlike moved on.
And then the other thing was Iwas like, Okay, our cool older
cousin.
The fact that you were able toskip school and go to New York,
(38:51):
go to Times Square, and be onTRL.
Yeah.
I just remember we were all atNanny and Popup's house sitting.
We were like, let's turn on MTVto watch Tawana, Matthew, and
Kim on TRL.
Excuse me, no, no, no.
It was Tawana, it was Nadeiraand Kim.
Oh, I thought Matthew was there.
(39:14):
Sorry, sorry to Nadeira, nottrying to no Nadeira erasure, my
bad.
Yeah, it was crazy to me.
I was like, how is my cousin onTV, on TRL of all things?
(39:36):
But anyway, I digress.
I don't even know how we gothere.
I forget what the question was.
I feel like we didn't Shrididn't even get a chance to
answer yet.
SPEAKER_04 (39:44):
I feel like the age that comes to mind is 25 because
I remember being most excitedfor like, okay, everything's
gonna click, my brain's gonnaflip.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (39:53):
You were all about like the brain helping in 25,
the prefrontal cortex.
SPEAKER_03 (39:57):
Yeah, she was all about that.
SPEAKER_04 (39:59):
I think it was like just leading up to that a very
tough time.
So I would tell myself that itgets better, and since then it
hasn't better.
SPEAKER_03 (40:10):
Yeah, it just literally, if I could have even
given you, like at 25, a montageof how life gets better, all I
would have done was just playeda camera role of your wedding,
like it was so fun.
(40:30):
Like, that's so true.
SPEAKER_02 (40:31):
The wedding was and I literally have wedding
pictures at work, like if thefive months with me and her, and
I'm just like, and Shrey waslike, I watched the videos like
randomly sometimes.
I'm like, that was like so fun,yeah, so much fun.
Oh my god, we were all together,we took pictures, and I was just
like, it was it was the best.
SPEAKER_04 (40:53):
That is very that's very insightful.
I appreciate that perspective.
I'm gonna hang on to thatbecause yeah, yeah, I mean, like
other good things have happened,but I feel like that felt like
everything kind of at once, andlike everyone being together,
and yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (41:08):
Like all of all of those like good moments built up
to that, you know what I mean?
And then everybody got to betogether and like like sage's
flower rolls, so cute.
Oh my god.
I loved it, and I also like Iremember one point, um, you were
just like you were thinking withyour sisters, you were like, Oh,
(41:28):
where's Nanny and Papa?
SPEAKER_02 (41:30):
And we're like, oh, like they're obviously not here,
like not to get emotional, butit's just like they would have
literally eaten that up.
They would have loved that somuch.
For sure.
Um and I think about that often,like they would have loved the
kids, like Sage and RJ andHarry, and like they would have
loved all that we're doing, andlike it was just it was still a
(41:51):
good time, obviously, but I feellike they would have Papa would
have given like the he wouldhave knocked the speed chat out
of the ballpark.
SPEAKER_04 (41:57):
Oh for sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_02 (42:02):
Well that was a good time.
SPEAKER_03 (42:04):
Um but our your caretaker is calling.
SPEAKER_04 (42:09):
Yeah, I have to go retrieve my child.
SPEAKER_03 (42:14):
Hi oh my gosh, Sagey Sage.
SPEAKER_04 (42:18):
Yes, um, this was so fun.
SPEAKER_02 (42:20):
We loved this episode, obviously.
We're sad that you're uh threehours away, time zone wise, but
like five hours.
SPEAKER_03 (42:26):
I know, yeah, it's a long ride, it runs.
We know we've done it twice.
I was gonna say, I'll be homefor Christmas.
I have not gotten my flight yet.
Okay, but I will be home.
Um, so let's chat.
Let's chat about me coming down.
I feel like all of us want tocome down to see you guys
because last year we just didn'tbecause we saw you at the
(42:49):
wedding.
SPEAKER_02 (42:50):
No, I feel like oh that's true.
It was like the year beforethat.
I feel like it's been liketwo-ish, like you guys usually,
it's usually like an annualthing, but last year we saw each
other at the wedding, so itwasn't doable for Christmas, but
yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (43:02):
Yeah, but we we love you, we miss you.
That's not my bad.
SPEAKER_03 (43:08):
Love you, miss you guys too.
SPEAKER_02 (43:11):
Yes, and then we'll have we will do an episode with
you and your sisters to do likea cousin themed thing.
Yes, yes, we'll do like familystuff.
We'll talk, we have we'll haveso many stories about nanny and
pop up and just like growing upand like only stuff like we
yeah, of course, with thethunderstorms, we've got a lot.
SPEAKER_03 (43:28):
Stay tuned, we have a lot for you guys, a lot to
unpack.
SPEAKER_02 (43:32):
Yeah, things will be really things will only be like
really special to us, but likeYeah, pop-up Spanish rice.
SPEAKER_03 (43:37):
I've never had another like it.
SPEAKER_01 (43:38):
Like actually, the next time I had some chicken,
his chicken.
SPEAKER_03 (43:44):
I actually think that I've gotten it down to
taste like his.
I'm not kidding.
Next time I see you guys, oryou're here, like I'll make it
for you because I broil it andI've got this specific
seasoning.
I'm like, this is what pop upused.
Told me about that.
SPEAKER_04 (43:55):
It was Uncle Tony's or something.
SPEAKER_03 (43:57):
Yeah, Creole seasoning, it's like something,
something.
Yeah, I have I'll just take apicture and send it to you guys.
But oh so good.
Oh my gosh, so good.
And of course, the spaghetti, ofcourse, spaghetti night.
And then spaghetti spaghetti ina bag, spaghetti in a bag.
Anybody?
She said, love you, love you.
SPEAKER_02 (44:18):
Oh my god, the sausage, and whenever I used to
slip over, they used to make thebiscuit biscuits.
Like, I know it's just bisquick,but it was just like still, I
never had that it takes eggs andthe bisquick, and just like oh
my gosh, like the leftoversausage, like literally.
I think about them so much, likeoften.
(44:39):
I'm just like, they wouldliterally eat the children up.
SPEAKER_03 (44:43):
Oh, for sure, for sure.
They would have loved it just tolike be able to have them over,
you know.
SPEAKER_02 (44:51):
Not just that, but like I feel like nanny and both
of them, Papa would like make away to like come down here to
like, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03 (45:00):
Like honestly, Pop up would have figured it out,
and Nanny would have been like,All right, let's go.
Like he figured everything out.
And also, of course, Christmas,when he would come to the house
with like a bag full ofpresents, I was like, Pop up,
how did these presents like whyare you bringing them?
He goes, Santa brought them.
I was like, to your house?
He goes, Yeah, and now I'mbringing them here.
(45:21):
I go, Oh my gosh, there's so itwas so many toys.
Like, and then he went to yourguys' house and brought them for
Sherry too.
I don't know if I imagine he didit for you too.
Yeah, he would always make surehe did it in the morning.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, so fun.
And I loved also, I mean,obviously, we're gonna end the
podcast soon, but I loved thatwe lived five minutes away from
(45:45):
each other.
You know what I mean?
Like just wasn't it sevenminutes?
Sure.
I mean, no, I think what I willsay, what I will say though, is
that it was one hour walking,and I'll say that story for a
different time.
Me and Shri literally walked itbecause okay, I guess I'll tell
it now.
Because did you go?
(46:06):
Did you go through Willomere?
No, we didn't.
We went on like the main roadand we walked the whole way past
shop, right?
Super G, stop and shop, all thevariations.
Um, because your mom mademeatballs the night before, and
we were so hungry at my house.
And Shree looked at me, shegoes, Well, I have meatballs in
my house.
I go, Well, how are we gonna getthere?
We were too young to drive.
My dad was home.
(46:26):
I go, Hey, can me and Shri walkthere?
And he goes, Sure.
We were like, Oh my god, that'sso cool.
We walked for an hour just toget meatballs at your house.
Honestly, we were living, it wasgreat.
SPEAKER_02 (46:37):
It was so meatballs that you loved, her pasta salad,
her tuna fish.
SPEAKER_03 (46:43):
Let me let me tell you, let me tell you something
about Daisy's pasta salad.
Like, there is nothing else thattops that like no, and the I
still make it to this day.
Tawana, everyone gives me somuch credit.
They're like, Blair, your pastasalad's amazing.
I go, you don't even know thehalf of it.
This isn't my recipe.
This is my Aunt Daisy's recipe.
And they were like, Okay, well,shout out to your Aunt Daisy.
(47:05):
Every time we do anything in thesummer, we go to someone's
house, we're having a barbecue.
They're like, Hey Blair, can youmake your pasta salad?
I'm like, of course.
It takes like two seconds.
SPEAKER_01 (47:14):
Like, it's not mine, but sure.
SPEAKER_03 (47:16):
And I'm like, and I can show you how to make it.
They're like, No, no, no, no, Ijust want you to make it.
I'm like, okay, I'm like, it'sso simple.
You could be having this everyweekend.
Yeah.
Oh my god, it was great.
It was so simple.
SPEAKER_02 (47:26):
I love it.
I miss literally Nellie said, Imiss Papa's sausage on
spaghetti.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
It was, I used to love to haveit.
Like, obviously, there'd beenough for leftovers, obviously,
all the time.
unknown (47:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (47:40):
So it's like leftovers on like Saturday, and
I'm just like, oh my gosh, thebest.
SPEAKER_03 (47:47):
It was so good.
It was so, so good.
And he used to make the sauce.
Like he used to make like it waslike jar sauce, but like he
would add like green pepper.
Yes, so much to it.
Like, I never honestly, not tobe like, I mean, I don't know
how this will come across, butlike I have not had a pasta
sauce like it since, but I willknow when I do because it just
(48:10):
stands out in my mind everyFriday, which I know, and we can
get into the politics on that ofwhich day was for which meal.
But for me, every Monday waschicken.
Tuesday, it toss up, Wednesday,Chinese food.
Shout out, Shanghai Express.
Ted, love y'all down.
Yeah.
Shanghai Express is so good.
(48:31):
And then on Thursday was pizza.
Love y'all big.
And then on Friday it wasspaghetti night.
And pizza was a littlecontroversial because we would
always be changing like brands,kind of.
So for a while we had PapaJohn's Hut or Papa John's.
Yeah, until we startedcomplaining.
Well, not complaining,advocating.
(48:51):
Let me positively reframe.
I love dominoes.
Okay.
Oh my gosh, hi.
I love dominoes, you know.
So we had that, and then we hadPizza Hut, yes, and Papa John's.
So yes.
Anyway, is this where I leaveyou?
Is this where we're gonna signoff?
I think so.
I miss you so much.
(49:11):
We both miss you so much.
I miss you guys too.
I was just actually okay.
I know I said we were gonna end,but hold on.
I was just talking to myparents, and I was like, you
guys, listen, seasons arechanging, and obviously, like
people like we're going intodifferent seasons of life.
So if ever, do not hesitate.
(49:32):
If you need me to move home, youlet me know.
So I don't know.
I feel like I more than before,I feel like I'm more open to
like moving back to the eastcoast if I need andor want to.
So yeah, stay tuned for anychanges like that.
But right now, what I will sayis that I really do like living
on the west coast.
(49:52):
So we'll see.
Who knows?
Who knows?
SPEAKER_02 (49:55):
Yeah, I get that, and we love you and we miss you.
SPEAKER_03 (50:00):
I love you guys, and I'll talk to you later.
unknown (50:04):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (50:06):
Love you guys.
SPEAKER_03 (50:07):
Bye.
Bye, my October birthday,cousin.
SPEAKER_02 (50:12):
Birthday twin-ish month twin.
SPEAKER_03 (50:17):
Yeah, signing off.
unknown (50:19):
All right, guys.
SPEAKER_04 (50:22):
We'll talk to you soon.
Bye.
Bye.
SPEAKER_02 (50:28):
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Welcome to Turn the Page Podcast.
Sisters, best friends, andbrunch enthusiasts with
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your closest friends or sisters.
Join us as we turn the page ondifferent topics about losing
yourself in motherhood,adulthood, anyhood.
SPEAKER_03 (00:22):
And finding yourself again through meaningful
friendships, shameless piles ofunread library books, and
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SPEAKER_04 (00:30):
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SPEAKER_02 (00:33):
We talk about it all.
So grab your favorite drink, putthe kids to bed, lace up your
sneaks or whatever you need todo and join us.
We can't wait to connect withyou.
Hi guys, welcome to Turn thePage Podcast.
This is your ghost, co-host,Tawana Page.
SPEAKER_03 (00:46):
This is your other co-host, Sheree Page Barber.
Um, and we have a guest, one ofour cousins, Blair Warwick.
I'm here.
I'm so excited.
Yeah, yeah.
We love you.
SPEAKER_04 (00:59):
Um, do you want to do an intro?
SPEAKER_03 (01:04):
Um, not really, only because I don't know what I
would say.
Like maybe I'm your cousin.
That's all I got.
Fair enough.
I mean, our dad and your mom arebrother and sister.
That's how we're connected.
Yes, I have two sisters.
I have two sisters.
I'm the oldest.
Yeah.
I mean, oh, actually, it'sreally funny because I was
(01:24):
thinking about this the otherday how Sheree and I are only a
couple months apart, and it'slike sometimes we were like
treated like twins, not so muchthat everyone saw us as one, but
we would get lumped together.
So I guess that's a fun factthat we're similar in age.
SPEAKER_04 (01:40):
But that's we are um also on brand, because this
episode is about birthdays.
You also have an Octoberbirthday on October 14th.
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (01:52):
And I'm October Libra in the house, and my
birthday is tomorrow, October5th, but when this comes out,
it'll be well past then.
But this birth this podcast isabout birthdays, so we're all on
it.
We are on brand, and fun factthat we have the same birthday
month, but we are separatesigns, but we're still cousins,
(02:12):
and it's cool.
SPEAKER_02 (02:13):
We still always have the same birthday month.
We're still cousins.
SPEAKER_03 (02:16):
Yeah, do you wanna um I'm curious if you were gonna
share how you celebrated yourbirthday?
Oh, absolutely.
Okay, so I went to a winery witha few friends from work and
Sheree.
So fun.
It was fun, it was low-key.
SPEAKER_02 (02:32):
We had the winery specializes in brick oven pizza,
which was so good.
SPEAKER_03 (02:36):
Oh, I didn't know that part.
So it was brick oven pizza andwine, and they only have three
pizzas.
It's margarita, mushroom, andpepperoni.
Um, we got all three.
We did a wine tasting beforethat, and it was just really
good.
SPEAKER_02 (02:51):
It was fun, it was low-key.
SPEAKER_04 (02:53):
Sweet little um family dogs room, the property.
SPEAKER_02 (02:56):
Yes, the owner's dog's room.
SPEAKER_04 (02:57):
Oh my god, it was so cute.
And it is cute.
SPEAKER_03 (03:00):
Wait, I love I love wineries for birthdays.
I love that.
SPEAKER_04 (03:05):
Yeah, I think it's definitely the vibe for 30s for
sure.
Yeah, I mean, but you did it.
You weren't 30 yet.
SPEAKER_03 (03:11):
Was that your we talked about that?
SPEAKER_04 (03:13):
330.
We talked about that.
SPEAKER_03 (03:15):
Uh-huh.
We're like, we went to visit ourcousin for her birthday end of
October, and I was like, we wentto Temecula.
Yes, we did.
We so it was just after COVID,and I got a party bus because I
was like, we need to startliving again.
And also the prices were socheap because it was right out
of COVID that they probably justwanted people to use their
(03:35):
services.
And it's so crazy because I didthink about this the other day,
and it's not funny, but I waslike, what are the chances that
this is how it would turn outwhen you when you guys came
back?
You didn't take the bus backwith us.
It was the two of you.
Yeah, it was me and something,yes.
Yeah, and you guys had taken anUber and the ride back to my
(03:58):
apartment literally, uh, theride in total was probably 45 to
an hour.
And you guys had never taken anUber before, and I was like,
it's totally fine, even thoughit was later on at night.
But you were with Cynthia, andyou guys get in the car.
I don't even know how long youwere in the car for, but the
driver just ditched you in themiddle of the ride.
(04:21):
Can I remember?
It was a woman, yeah.
She did.
She dropped you at a hotelbecause she was like, I'm sorry,
it's too far to take you.
SPEAKER_04 (04:30):
At the hotel at the motel.
Do you remember that?
He was like, Oh, yourdestination is gonna take me
like two hours to get together.
And I have kids, something withmy kids.
So, like, yes, can I just dropyou off here and like hopefully
you guys find another ride?
We were like, What?
SPEAKER_03 (04:49):
And then I what I I feel like I remember like you
guys didn't really have stronglike Wi-Fi or cell reception,
something where it was justharder to get another one.
And by the time we had gottenback with the bus, I remember
we're walking, and I just hadn'tgotten a text from you guys yet
that you were back.
And I started to see myapartment and the lights weren't
on, and I'm like, somethingfeels weird.
(05:10):
Like, where are they?
Why aren't they here yet?
And I call and I found out, andI was like, Okay, I really hope
that this doesn't turn you guysoff of Ubers because this is not
what it's like.
SPEAKER_01 (05:21):
We had a guy, right?
SPEAKER_03 (05:23):
A guy, a guy in an SUV, he was super cool, and the
whole way, because I was myoldest was three at the time,
and then I was just found outthe day before I left that I was
seven weeks pregnant with mysecond, told you and your two
sisters that you called thatday, like when we got there,
(05:43):
that obviously I couldn't drink.
So I was like, Cynthia, I'mpregnant, I'm a mother.
Like, what is going on?
SPEAKER_02 (05:51):
And it's um my niece Cherie's daughter was not born
yet, so she was like, What areyou talking about?
She was like, You'll be fine.
I was like, Cynthia, I'm amother!
SPEAKER_03 (06:00):
Like, I can't be out here on these streets like this.
Yeah, it was crazy.
It was super scary, but guys,this is a segue into our episode
today, which is about birthdays.
Well, first we have this orthat.
We do have a this or that guestfashion.
So, um, white or red wine?
Oh, white.
Oh, whites right here, a littleASMR for you.
(06:22):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (06:24):
Here, let's love it, love it.
Um, yeah, I mean, I like asweet, so I'll drink any color
as long as I I I swing anycolor.
I swing white, I would say.
SPEAKER_03 (06:36):
Yeah.
I think sweet, sweet reallymakes my head hurt now.
So a little bit dry, but I likeit.
Does I like the different flav,like not the floral, maybe the
floral, like things that seemsweet but aren't as sweet.
Does that make sense?
unknown (06:53):
It does.
SPEAKER_04 (06:53):
It does.
SPEAKER_03 (06:54):
That's what I lean towards.
SPEAKER_04 (06:55):
Or like, I like the citrusy.
SPEAKER_03 (06:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (06:58):
But I think that it's got a little bit of um
maybe the floral or like thevanilla.
Like the sweet.
It's like not sweet like a rose,but it's sweet enough.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Um, do we like to go out or stayin for our birthday?
SPEAKER_03 (07:16):
Um, so I will say I went out for my birthday this
year.
I don't always love it.
SPEAKER_02 (07:20):
I planned it.
Um, I liked going out, it waslow-key, but I also don't mind
staying in.
It just depends on how I'mfeeling.
SPEAKER_03 (07:31):
Yeah, I was gonna say either or, but then if I was
honest with myself, like lookingback, I don't know, probably
since college, I like to go outevery single time.
Yeah, every single time.
Like, but uh but the energy isalways a little bit different.
(07:54):
Like for my 30th, which I wassad you guys weren't there or
couldn't go, but oh yeah, Hawaiigot a house.
Well, it was gonna be Hawaii,but then there were the fires,
so had to pivot.
Went to Malibu instead.
It was really nice.
Right, it was so calm, likemassages, facials, like the
winery there, again, anotherwinery, so nice.
Um, and then last year, Shricame to visit, super chill.
(08:22):
We went to Julian, which Idon't, I mean, I don't know if a
lot of people know what Julianis like.
It's close by to San Diego,Southern California, and you go
and it's like it's in themountains, but it's not that
high up, but there's anoticeable difference, and it
actually felt like fall, theleaves were changing colors, it
was really chilly.
And that was for your birthday.
I feel like that's so youwouldn't think around that time.
(08:44):
You would think that all thetime in Southern California, we
call it second summer, it'sreally hot here, so we're always
usually sweating, but yeah,whether it's just like dinner or
doing something really fun, I dolike to go out.
Honestly, on my birthday, I liketo dance, I really do, unless
I'm trying to chill, and then Ijust want to go to dinner.
(09:05):
Yeah, I do.
What about you, She?
SPEAKER_04 (09:09):
I think I go out.
I was just telling your friendtoday because I'm usually I
hibernate, I would say, fromlike November to uh March slash
April to May.
It's my like you're coming outhere, yeah.
Yeah, out of the crater and likeeverything's happy, yeah.
So I but I'm not like a go out,like I'll do like a small
gathering, but it's like out ofthe house, like I'm like
(09:31):
something.
Um yeah, so then the last one issurprise or planned.
Do we like surprises?
SPEAKER_03 (09:43):
No, I like a plan because I planned this, yeah,
but the gifts that I got todaywere a complete surprise, and I
loved it.
And I was just really happy thatlike the people that came, like
it was a small group, but it waslike perfect.
Like we were all like air signsand also like sun and moon, like
(10:07):
it was just it was a perfectfit.
Like everybody was kizmittedchill, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (10:13):
And I obviously talk about my sister at work all the
time, and I'm just like, youguys are gonna love her, and it
was vice versa point, and thenwe mentioned you obviously and
your sisters, but I'm like, likeif you were there, you would
have been like, Yep, this wouldhave matched up as well.
SPEAKER_03 (10:31):
Yeah, I when you said that I was thinking it's
kind of hard because I feel likeI don't like to ask people for
things when it comes to mybirthday, so I like to plan it
all.
SPEAKER_02 (10:42):
Well, take that back.
My sister mom asked me what Iwanted for birthday, and like I
sent them ideas.
SPEAKER_03 (10:48):
Um no, that's uh honestly, I commend you for that
because I'm trying to be morethat way, like so.
But my friend and her sister whowho came gave me a fresh bouquet
of flowers.
Oh, that's so sweet, and I'minto fresh flowers now.
(11:09):
Those are the only things I'llaccept into my home because of
your cousin and my sister, yeah.
Because her friend took a classand I'm like really into it.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (11:21):
But guess what?
Go ahead and finish what yousaid.
SPEAKER_03 (11:29):
Um, I'm really free.
I don't even know.
I'm still here.
Can you hear me?
Okay, great.
SPEAKER_04 (11:37):
Um what do you mean?
I'm already here.
You're there.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (11:50):
L O L.
Alright, well, I'm gonna keeptalking until they can hear me
again.
Oh, you know, you're not gonnahear.
SPEAKER_04 (11:57):
Oh, yeah, it just went out for a second.
Have you?
SPEAKER_03 (11:59):
I'm so sorry, but have you ever seen the news clip
of um Courtney and Kardashianand they ask her a question and
she doesn't want to answer, soshe just freezes and it looks
like they're like, did we loseyou?
SPEAKER_04 (12:10):
Courtney, are you there?
That's what I thought washappening.
SPEAKER_03 (12:15):
No, I haven't seen that.
I'm gonna have to look that up.
But um, in terms of surprisingversus planning, I think it's an
issue of like control versus nocontrol because I don't want to
feel forgotten or let down, likeany of those things.
But at this point, it's likeobviously friends and family
(12:35):
know you and love you, like thatthe likelihood that that's gonna
happen is so low, but still Ican't release that as much as I
want to.
So I like to plan everything.
I don't always ask people forreally anything other than to
just like show up and have agood time and enjoy themselves.
But secretly, deep down, I'vealways wanted a surprise
(12:58):
birthday, but not in the sensewhere it seems like everybody
forgot my birthday.
I'm sorry, that sounds liketorture.
Like, oh, you're so sad all day,but just wait.
No, I don't want to wait.
Like, how about I enjoy my dayand then you surprise me with
something else?
That'd be nice.
SPEAKER_00 (13:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (13:15):
Can I just say for my 40th next year, I am having a
90s vibe party.
SPEAKER_03 (13:22):
100%.
I have a denim bucket hat thatI've been wanting to wear.
So perfect, yeah.
Perfect.
That's your entry fee.
SPEAKER_04 (13:33):
Um on the pad today, we're talking about birthdays,
all things birthdays.
I didn't answer.
I thought you did.
I didn't.
Okay, so please please check.
Please check.
I'm trying.
I'm gonna think.
Okay.
Um have you ever had a surpriseparty?
I don't think so.
Okay.
And that like that's okay.
(13:53):
I think it's nice, but I don'tknow.
Planning is cool too, becausethen you just know who's gonna
be there and what's gonnahappen.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Um, so yeah, birthdays.
Birthdays, birthdays.
Hold on.
SPEAKER_02 (14:06):
Let me get the so when this comes out, it'll be
past my birthday.
I'm probably closer to Blair's,but my birthday is tomorrow,
October 5th.
SPEAKER_03 (14:14):
Yeah, what are you gonna do on the actual day?
Obviously, you celebrated today,just before at the winery, but
like, do you have plans fortomorrow?
SPEAKER_02 (14:23):
No, the boys have swim class on Sunday, so it
happens to follow my birthday.
I'm just gonna chill.
SPEAKER_03 (14:28):
That's nice.
SPEAKER_02 (14:28):
I mean, that's all I really want.
SPEAKER_03 (14:29):
I mean, yeah, today was cool.
I liked it.
Wait, I have a question aboutthat for both of you guys.
I'm curious how birthdays havechanged now that you're mom's,
whether it's your own birthdayor their birthdays, whether it's
planning for them or how excitedthey get.
You know what I mean?
Or like even like your ownbirthday, like you said, like
(14:50):
you're gonna be at the pool withthe kids.
So I don't know.
So for their birthdays, it feelslike my birthday because I was
there, you know.
Um actually, sorry, let meinterrupt you for a second.
That's so real.
Like the birthday you guysshould be celebrated on the
birthday.
I just thought about that maybetwo weeks ago.
It took me 31 years to get tothe point of like I celebrate my
(15:12):
birthday, I didn't do anything.
Like my mom did all the work.
Maybe I should be celebratingher on my birthday, but anyway,
keep going.
So they came out of me on youknow, play.
SPEAKER_02 (15:24):
Um, both of them.
And I should be so like I'mcelebrated as well.
I celebrate myself on theirbirthday because I was there.
I was of course fully fullypresent.
They came out of me.
Um, on my actual birthday as amom, I feel as though I don't
(15:45):
really need to go like full out.
SPEAKER_03 (15:46):
Like, I went full out today.
SPEAKER_02 (15:48):
Um I mean, they're home with dad today, which is
fine.
Um, I'll just hang out witheveryone tomorrow.
I feel like the older I get, Idon't really like need like
fancy, flashy things, just likeintentional like things.
And a lot of people couldn'tcome to my birthday party today,
but it's like because they wereout of town or because they had
(16:09):
other plans.
Like I fully knew that peoplehave have lives outside of like
celebrating my birthday, butlike yeah, the ones that got
back to me were like, wish Icould make it, but like I have
other things planned.
Like, I'm just like, please havefun.
So it's like it was intentional,like made me sad, of course, but
um like people that were therehad like uh I had an amazing
time, it was a blast.
SPEAKER_03 (16:30):
Yeah, um and I like intimate, and I like my full
reason for for invitingeverybody was to introduce them
to my sister because they talkabout her, talk about her all
the time, and I was like, I justwant you to introduce them to my
sister.
SPEAKER_02 (16:49):
Um they loved her, of course, obviously.
SPEAKER_03 (16:52):
I my first birthday as a mom, I just cried.
SPEAKER_04 (16:57):
Did you?
Yeah, because I was like, thisdoesn't feel she was six months,
almost six months, yeah.
So we were still deep in thetrenches, yeah.
Um it just felt different, andlike I don't like to make a big
fuss about it, but I at leastlike for it to be acknowledged
in the hall.
So like maybe I'd like to readthe bed all day or like whatever
it is, and that wasn't an optionbecause it was a weekend, and
(17:19):
obviously, like Brandon worksweekends, yeah.
Um so I think as the years havegone on, I've just tried to be
more intentional.
Like this year, we did thewinery thing too.
Yep.
Um, and last year's mybachelorette.
I mean, I don't think anythingwill talk about it.
SPEAKER_03 (17:36):
Which obviously you were there for it.
Of course, of course.
So obviously you wouldn't missit.
You'd have missed the wedding,you and your sister, you or your
sisters or your family,whatever.
But like, but you're talkingabout that at my birthday party
today.
It's like the her bachelor partywas so freaking fun.
So fun.
It was so fun.
(17:57):
Yeah, that's a good question,though.
I mean I mean went to a winery.
I forgot about that.
Of course.
So it was so fun.
SPEAKER_04 (18:04):
Does it feel different for you being for I
feel like you've made like yourfamily out there, but does it
feel different for you beingaway from family because it's
out there now?
SPEAKER_03 (18:14):
Yeah, Taylor is out here, but for this year, it is
comments.
I feel like no, no hate or shadeto her at all.
No hate or shade to anybody,actually.
Yeah, but I set this expectationand boundary for myself that I
will not be hosting anybody formy birthday this year because I
have hosted people like in myliving space, probably for the
(18:36):
past four years.
Um and it's really nice, but atthe end of the weekend, I'm
always really exhausted.
And then it yeah, it's fun andfulfilling, but it doesn't, it's
just go, go, go.
So I was like, you know what?
I'm gonna take a little bit of abreak and it'll be great.
So I'm gonna see her the weekendbefore.
But I think part of the reasonwhy that happened is because I
(18:57):
did always miss having peoplethat I felt really close and
connected to.
Like I lived out here almost 10years now.
SPEAKER_02 (19:04):
And oh my god, it's been 10 years.
SPEAKER_03 (19:06):
Almost I know I moved out here in 2016, and so
in the beginning, it was a lotof like uh, like you said,
creating connections, like thisis my family away from family.
So it was, and we were young,like 22, 23.
So we were going out a lot.
Not that it wasn't meaningful,but it was very not even like
(19:30):
surface level, that feels rudeto say.
It was just different, and um itwas like a little chaotic, like
and wanted people around thatknew me really well, and I was
still getting to know thesepeople.
So at a certain point, I alwayshad somebody come visit for my
birthday, whether it was youguys or sh or Shri, please.
(19:50):
I'm looking at you, sure.
Whether it was you guys orSophia or Jamira, yeah, my
family, then it was really nice.
So yeah, it's interestingbecause now too, I do like
planning my birthday, but it'sfunny because I feel like I'm
practicing for when I have kidsbecause I figure myself, it's
(20:10):
not like, oh, I want to havethis big grand event.
I'm like, no, but I do want tofigure out the best way to plan
something that might meeteverybody's needs, and it's like
a cute, fun thing.
How can I get creative with it?
Because when I have kids, I feellike this is the part that I'm
really gonna enjoy, maybe onceonce they're like three and
above.
(20:31):
Um but yeah, so I think aboutthat, and it's changed over the
years because I'm like, where'smy family?
Isn't anyone here?
Which, yeah, also not to go onanother tangent, but what I
thought about the other day wasmy 21st birthday.
Yes, and why do I bring this up?
You ask?
Well, like I said before, Sriand I, when we were younger, we
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did everything together.
Shri, I don't know if youremember this, but I'm sure the
second I say this, you're gonnaremember.
So on a my 21st birthday,obviously, well, I guess it's
not obvious, but I'm a couplemonths older than Shri, so she
wasn't able to come because wewere all gonna go to the bars
and like all this stuff.
And uh we had a pregame and itwas so fun.
(21:12):
And the whole point was to waituntil midnight, obviously, so
that I could use my ID and getin, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
Very ceremonious.
Everything's fine, okay.
We go inside the bar, I sitdown, I start crying.
The bartender looks at me andhe's like, Wait, what?
And then one of my friends comeup comes over and the bartender
(21:35):
looks at him and he's like, Isshe okay?
And he's like, Yeah, she'stotally fine.
And then he looks at me and he'slike, Oh my god, are you okay?
And I go, No, but yes, becauselike Cherie's not here.
And that I was close with thisguy, but like not that close.
So he didn't know who you were.
And he's like, Who is Cherie?
I'm like, she's my cousin.
(21:56):
We do everything together, andshe's not here.
I'm so upset.
And he's like, uh, okay.
And I'm like, yeah, I gotta callher, Toronto.
I called Cherie in the dead ofnight.
Yeah, and she picked up and shepicked up and she's like, Hello,
is everything okay?
And I go back, still crying.
(22:16):
I'm like, Yeah, but like you'renot here, and it's so sad
because we're supposed to doeverything together.
And I'm pretty sure Brandon wasthere too, and you were like,
Yeah, no, she's good.
He's like, Is everything okay?
Having a moment, I do rememberthat.
I was like, Where are you?
You're like, I'm in a bar.
SPEAKER_04 (22:40):
Like, are you alone?
SPEAKER_03 (22:41):
They were literally all around.
I was just like, Shuri isn'there.
And then after I talked to you,I was fine.
And I was like, All right, well,yeah, good night.
And then went right back to it.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (22:53):
But I feel like the next birthday of yours, we had
to get because it was theHalloween party for what's it
called?
Your frat.
SPEAKER_03 (23:00):
Oh, I'm sorry, it was like when you were when what
when we came to visit you?
Sorry, yeah, it was when youcame to visit.
No, it was before it was before.
I think I I was turning 20.
So it was the first time me andLily threw a birthday party
because her birthday is also inOctober.
And so we were like, okay, yes,and we were like, let's plan our
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birthday right in the middle ofboth of ours.
We'll throw a party.
We charged a cover, okay?
We got all of this black light.
We made it uh-huh, yeah, yes,and we made the jungle juice
like glow in the dark.
I don't even remember how we didthat, but we were like, let's
get ring pop so you can dip itin the jungle juice, and then
like your mouth and your tonguewill also glow in the black
(23:44):
light.
Oh my god, it was so crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (23:46):
And you want to know what?
No, go ahead.
SPEAKER_03 (23:50):
No, because we might say the same thing.
I just remember getting a textfrom my mother being like, So I
heard you're throwing a party.
I said, How do you know aboutthat?
She's like, Well, Aunt Daisytold me.
I hope okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That makes sense.
They probably told her.
SPEAKER_01 (24:07):
I love it.
SPEAKER_02 (24:12):
And we we walked to the Halloween party you were
having.
I think I was like, so you werehow old were you?
SPEAKER_03 (24:21):
I think I was turning 20.
SPEAKER_02 (24:23):
So I was like 27, and everybody there was like
your age.
They were like, oh my gosh, likeyou're so cool.
Like, and I was like, what?
Like, that's so weird.
And then Shri and I were likehaving so much fun, then we're
like, you know what?
We want to go home because we'resuper tired.
SPEAKER_03 (24:41):
So we home was your dorm.
SPEAKER_02 (24:44):
So it was freezing because your birthday's the the
end of October.
We were freezing, we walkedback.
We walked probably like I don'teven know how we got there, but
I remember walking back.
We walked like probably over amile there.
SPEAKER_03 (24:55):
Definitely it was far.
It was your dorm room, yeah.
Your dorm room, and we got inher bed, and like 2 a.m., Shri
and I were just like looking ateach other.
We were like, We're hungry.
Yeah, we ordered cheesecakes,and we were we were like, What
are we gonna do?
She was like, We can order food.
SPEAKER_02 (25:11):
I was like, Finally, I think that's when Girl Pub is
still kind of like nursery, kindof still like like on college
campuses, yeah.
And we were like, Okay, what dowe do?
So we ordered it, and then youweren't even back yet.
So we ordered our food, we ate,and I think we saw you like the
next morning, and we were justlike, Yeah, you were like,
Where'd you guys go?
SPEAKER_03 (25:29):
We were like, we were tired and hungry, and we
slept in your bed.
And so funny, it's so funnybecause I remember the next day
of like, okay, they're at myapartment, but I don't remember
when you left.
And I just knew that I wasn'table to leave because we were
host, me and Lily were hostingit, but we were at we were at
(25:50):
one of our friends' houses, andI felt so bad because she was
really nervous because she waslike, Listen, we've already
gotten so many warnings, like itcan't get loud, the cops can't
come.
All this stuff, we're like,please, please, please, like we
promise it won't be bad, we'llbe fine.
We're like, we'll get like noisecanceling stuff for the windows,
like all of this stuff.
And then at a certain point, Ithought the cops did come up
(26:11):
freaking out.
Like for everybody, I might itwas a little bit later, but like
for anybody who doesn't know,like I very much still like to
follow the rules.
Like I didn't drink for a verylong time.
So, like, right around 20 iswhen I started, and I was just
like, Oh my god, you guys, thisis so scary.
And everyone around was like,Blair, please chill out.
(26:31):
Like, it's fine.
And it was fine, it was fine,also to say, but I didn't
remember when you guys had left.
Um, and I knew that I needed tostay because she was so nice in
letting us use her house that Iwanted to clean up after.
So I stayed till the end untileverybody left.
I was like, let me count howmuch money we made today.
Because we wanted to make wewanted to make the money so that
(26:55):
just in the event, well, one, wespent money, but two, just in
case they got a fine, we wantedto be able to pay it for them,
which is so wild.
I'm like, not us running abusiness, low-key.
Like, that's kind of crazy.
I remember standing at the frontbeing like, Do you have your
five dollars?
SPEAKER_01 (27:12):
Yeah, I remember being like, We want to go back,
Sheree, but like, but I can'tleave now.
SPEAKER_03 (27:17):
Like, what do we do?
Yeah, and I can't remember howwe got there.
Did you give us your key ormaybe one of your key because
either I gave you the key orhonestly, Esha was probably
home.
I feel like he was there.
And Shri and I was like, we haveto walk back.
So we literally it probablywasn't even that long, but it
was crazy.
(27:38):
It was long, it was long, andhonestly, I'm proud that you
guys found it.
SPEAKER_01 (27:42):
Yeah, we were proud too, we were not fully there,
yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (27:47):
And we finally not fully there, but like even I
didn't even know where thishouse was.
Like, I'm glad that I was withLily because this it was, I
mean, she was friends with bothof us, but she was closer with
Lily.
So Lily had been there before.
I was like, I don't know how toget home.
I'm just gonna follow her.
SPEAKER_02 (28:02):
No, I love that, but that also segues into um my one
of my coworkers was like, Oh,like your birthday's coming.
I'm like, Oh, it's Twana'sbirthday side note, and I was
like, Yeah, and they were like,Oh, what like what kind of food
do you like?
And I was like, Oh, I'll getback to you.
They were just like, I was like,I don't want to make a big deal.
They were like bunching, and Iwas like, my thing is like I
(28:26):
don't like to be celebrated, butlike I kind of low-key do.
Um, so yeah, I was gonna I washappy that like my friends that
showed up today showed up, andlike the ones that couldn't,
like, it wasn't like, oh, Idon't like you, it was just
because that they had legit likeplans.
Like some people have likefailing number birthdays, like
they were out of town, likestuff that had already planned.
(28:47):
And I was just like thinkingback to like Harrison's like um
lunch that I had when I waspregnant with him, like so many
people showed up for that.
And I was just like, it's notbecause of me, I was like, it's
because they have like it'slife, like they have things to
do.
SPEAKER_03 (29:02):
And that's the thing too.
I feel like it's not like yes,you know that, but even knowing
that doesn't always make iteasier to ask people to show up
for you, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04 (29:13):
Like dancing not feel sad if they're not able to,
yeah.
If they're not able to like,yeah, it's important to be able
to do it.
SPEAKER_02 (29:18):
Because part of me feels like I'm like, yeah, yeah,
and I was like, Yeah, I'mexcited, and I was like, I'm
manifesting like good vibes,like it was so much fun, like we
had so much fun.
I love it.
It was like an intimategathering, and like I love the
people that came and love thepeople that couldn't come also.
But I'm just like, I know peoplea lot of people text me tomorrow
my birthday, but I'm also justlike low key love to be
(29:41):
celebrated, but also low keydon't like to admit that I don't
like to be celebrated.
My co worker was like, She likesto be celebrated, but she won't
admit it, so yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (29:50):
Oh, I it's the hardest part, at least for me.
I'm like, why would I tell you Iwant you to celebrate me?
It's like because you don't wantto seem like need.
SPEAKER_02 (30:00):
And like selfish, and I'm like, no, it's my
birthday.
Like, I deserve to becelebrated.
Like, I'm amazing.
I may come off as cocky, butit's just like I've been this
way for 39 years.
SPEAKER_03 (30:14):
Almost 39 years.
Like, I deserve to becelebrated.
And the people that know mecelebrate me.
And like, I literally lovecelebrating people's birthdays.
Like, I love it.
I told Sheree that.
Like, she's told me that like inthe years past.
It's like, if you tell me yourbirthday one time, I'll remember
forever.
And it's just like, she'sliterally birthdays are your
(30:36):
thing.
SPEAKER_02 (30:36):
She's like, I hope you feel as celebrated as you
celebrate other people on theirbirthday.
SPEAKER_03 (30:41):
Because I'm just like, it's just like my thing.
SPEAKER_04 (30:44):
Yeah, I just love celebrating people.
SPEAKER_03 (30:47):
Me too, honestly.
SPEAKER_04 (30:48):
I just love celebrating people.
Wait, hold on.
You're gonna be able to do that.
Wait, wait, wait.
Let me share a thought.
Okay, please don't please.
Um, okay, so if you couldbecause this is from your list.
Oh, yeah.
If you had to give advice to theyounger self at a milestone age,
(31:09):
what would it be?
And what age would you pick?
SPEAKER_03 (31:11):
Oh, that's a good one.
Um, okay, this is really random.
And I don't remember the well,not okay, whatever it's a
milestone in my head at thispoint now, it's every five
intervals.
So, like 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55.
You know what I mean?
So there's there's always moreto come.
(31:31):
But one thing that I did thinkabout actually when you said
that, I don't remember the agethat I was, but it was back
probably like beginning ofcollege.
Um, and it was back whenFacebook was really popping off.
And seeing how many people wouldum write on your wall for your
birthday one year.
One year I remember Neri, aFacebook post insight.
(31:56):
Nobody wrote on my wall.
I honestly, I think it was myfreshman year, and I was I was
in my head about it.
I was like, wait a second, likeI know I don't talk to that many
people, but like I've gotfriends, like I've got people.
What's going on?
It was so crazy.
And I was like, okay, I guessI'll just like leave it alone.
Like it's totally fine,whatever.
(32:17):
And I was getting really upsetabout it, but I didn't say
anything to anybody.
Then randomly, my mom texts meat the end of the day, and she
goes, Hey, I was trying to writeon your Facebook wall, but you
turned off the option for peopleto write on it.
Make sure you turn that on.
SPEAKER_01 (32:32):
I go, Excuse me?
SPEAKER_03 (32:35):
I missed, like, I essentially rejected everybody's
wanting to wish me a happybirthday.
Exactly.
And no, and so if I could goback in time, I would literally
tell freshman year me, hey, turnyour wall on for Facebook so
people can write on it.
And you can, like, okay, life isnot about external validation,
but was I counting the number ofpeople that wrote?
(32:57):
Hell yeah, I was.
I wanted to see how many peoplewere gonna write to me,
especially after high school.
It was like, yeah, you see mepopping off in college.
Literally, I wasn't popping off.
I was always in my room watchingNew Girl, but anyway, it's not
the point.
Um, I wanted to see how manypeople wanted to reach out to
me, you know.
So I literally, yeah.
That's what I would tell myself.
SPEAKER_02 (33:17):
I freaking agree.
I know people that like turnoff, like specifically around
their birthdays, like um, likethings to sign on their wall.
But I think it's funny, like youdidn't realize that you had done
that.
SPEAKER_03 (33:30):
No, and I was so upset.
I was like, nobody likes me.
I just we'll just I love it.
Celebrate alone.
The worst.
I love it.
Um I mean, I just love thebirthdays.
What advice would you giveyourself?
Oh for like one of the birthdaysin the past.
(33:51):
Oh, I feel like I would say thatit's okay to if it's just you
celebrating, it's okay tocelebrate you.
Yeah, maybe I should havelistened to that too.
SPEAKER_02 (34:07):
I mean, I'm still learning, only 39.
But I literally just feel likelike my friend, one of my
friends there today asked me,she was like, Are you reflecting
on anything like for likeupcoming on like is your last
year in this decade?
And I was like, you know what?
That's a good question.
Because she's like, I reflectlike coming into a decade and
like leaving a decade becauseit's like things are coming and
(34:29):
things we've learned.
And my one thing is liketrusting my gut more, and also
only having people in my lifelike adults that know how to
manage their own emotions.
Okay, yes, here, here.
SPEAKER_03 (34:45):
Yes, yes.
So I feel like for me, my advicewould just be like just
celebrate you, like you areawesome as you.
SPEAKER_02 (34:55):
Um I don't know, I just I was like learning to love
myself more, like three, likeI'm about to be well 40 next
year, but still.
SPEAKER_03 (35:04):
It's like yeah, it's like wild.
I know it's so crazy becauseactually, let me tell you this.
Maybe I already told you, but Iwas talking to Peyton, and it's
so funny because I mean, I guessit's not funny, but like she was
like, Well, yeah, like isn'tTawana 32?
And I go, in the kindest way,like I'm about to be 32.
(35:26):
She's like, I was and yeah, I'mlike, and Tawana's seven years
older than me, so no, yeah.
Not anymore than that.
But then she looks at me andshe's like, You're gonna be 32.
I was like, first of all, nottoo much on me, okay?
But yes, I am.
SPEAKER_02 (35:43):
I will say that I always look at you girls like
Sheree and like Blair, and likeyour Blair or Blair, yes, Blair,
and Taylor and Peyton is likealways like my younger sister
and cousins, and like alwayslike the younger ages.
So it makes sense to me that shethought I was like still 32
because for the longest timeTaylor always thought I was 23.
SPEAKER_03 (36:06):
That's so funny.
Like, I don't even remember what23 was like how old would I have
been?
16, I guess.
Yes, yeah, and I'm like, like,didn't register to me then that
you were 23.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (36:18):
Yeah, and like even today at the my birthday
celebration, people are like,You're seven and a half years
apart.
I was like, Yeah, like we'recloser now that we're older, but
like thinking back, it's justlike she like we're in the same
decade now, like in the city.
SPEAKER_03 (36:32):
There's such a big gap though.
SPEAKER_02 (36:34):
But I'm just like, my cousins are like in their 20s
and 30s.
I'm like, I remember I waspicking picking them up out of
the crib.
SPEAKER_03 (36:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Wild when like you grow up.
Wait, because what's the age gapbetween you and Peyton?
Is it 15?
Um because for me, me andPeyton, it's eight.
So I'm 86, she's 2001, so it'swhat?
Yeah, 15.
That's wild.
15, yeah.
That's crazy.
That is so insane.
SPEAKER_02 (37:03):
But it's just like even at like Siri's wedding, I
was like, I have a picture atwork of like the five of us, the
like some of the picture of thefive of us, and I'm just like,
oh my gosh, like we were likefull-grown women.
This was just last year, andthey're still my younger
cousins.
SPEAKER_03 (37:20):
I know.
Wait, actually, I was thinkingabout like random memories when
you were just got not like thislike elusive abstract figure,
but kind of because you're justlike the older cousin who wasn't
always around, but like youwere, but you're so cool, and
like we weren't really talkingto you.
Um, and two memories came tomind, okay?
(37:43):
Maybe three, but the first onewas when you helped us when I
thought we were gonna get in somuch trouble with your mom.
Me and she spilled it.
Yep, we spilled like, oh my god,it was just water.
Like we could have just thoughtfor a second.
We spilled water in the familyroom, yes, and we were freaking
out, and you're like, just put apillow over it.
And I was like, Oh my god, she'sso smart.
(38:03):
And then she did, and then wedid, and then a couple minutes
went by.
Obviously, because of how thingswork, the water dried up, so it
was gone.
But then your mom came home, orshe just came into the room,
she's like, Why is this pillowon the ground?
I it was like one of thoseepisodes of a TV show where you
have like the dramatic music oflike, Oh my god, they're gonna
find us out.
And I just saw her going down topick up the pillow, and I was
(38:24):
like, This is it, this is it.
She picks it up, there's nostain.
It's a wrap of it, it's water,yeah.
Literally, that's what Ithought.
And then she was like, Girls,why are you leaving the pillows
around?
We're like, I don't know, justlike moved on.
And then the other thing was Iwas like, Okay, our cool older
cousin.
The fact that you were able toskip school and go to New York,
(38:51):
go to Times Square, and be onTRL.
Yeah.
I just remember we were all atNanny and Popup's house sitting.
We were like, let's turn on MTVto watch Tawana, Matthew, and
Kim on TRL.
Excuse me, no, no, no.
It was Tawana, it was Nadeiraand Kim.
Oh, I thought Matthew was there.
(39:14):
Sorry, sorry to Nadeira, nottrying to no Nadeira erasure, my
bad.
Yeah, it was crazy to me.
I was like, how is my cousin onTV, on TRL of all things?
(39:36):
But anyway, I digress.
I don't even know how we gothere.
I forget what the question was.
I feel like we didn't Shrididn't even get a chance to
answer yet.
SPEAKER_04 (39:44):
I feel like the age that comes to mind is 25 because
I remember being most excitedfor like, okay, everything's
gonna click, my brain's gonnaflip.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (39:53):
You were all about like the brain helping in 25,
the prefrontal cortex.
SPEAKER_03 (39:57):
Yeah, she was all about that.
SPEAKER_04 (39:59):
I think it was like just leading up to that a very
tough time.
So I would tell myself that itgets better, and since then it
hasn't better.
SPEAKER_03 (40:10):
Yeah, it just literally, if I could have even
given you, like at 25, a montageof how life gets better, all I
would have done was just playeda camera role of your wedding,
like it was so fun.
(40:30):
Like, that's so true.
SPEAKER_02 (40:31):
The wedding was and I literally have wedding
pictures at work, like if thefive months with me and her, and
I'm just like, and Shrey waslike, I watched the videos like
randomly sometimes.
I'm like, that was like so fun,yeah, so much fun.
Oh my god, we were all together,we took pictures, and I was just
like, it was it was the best.
SPEAKER_04 (40:53):
That is very that's very insightful.
I appreciate that perspective.
I'm gonna hang on to thatbecause yeah, yeah, I mean, like
other good things have happened,but I feel like that felt like
everything kind of at once, andlike everyone being together,
and yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (41:08):
Like all of all of those like good moments built up
to that, you know what I mean?
And then everybody got to betogether and like like sage's
flower rolls, so cute.
Oh my god.
I loved it, and I also like Iremember one point, um, you were
just like you were thinking withyour sisters, you were like, Oh,
(41:28):
where's Nanny and Papa?
SPEAKER_02 (41:30):
And we're like, oh, like they're obviously not here,
like not to get emotional, butit's just like they would have
literally eaten that up.
They would have loved that somuch.
For sure.
Um and I think about that often,like they would have loved the
kids, like Sage and RJ andHarry, and like they would have
loved all that we're doing, andlike it was just it was still a
(41:51):
good time, obviously, but I feellike they would have Papa would
have given like the he wouldhave knocked the speed chat out
of the ballpark.
SPEAKER_04 (41:57):
Oh for sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_02 (42:02):
Well that was a good time.
SPEAKER_03 (42:04):
Um but our your caretaker is calling.
SPEAKER_04 (42:09):
Yeah, I have to go retrieve my child.
SPEAKER_03 (42:14):
Hi oh my gosh, Sagey Sage.
SPEAKER_04 (42:18):
Yes, um, this was so fun.
SPEAKER_02 (42:20):
We loved this episode, obviously.
We're sad that you're uh threehours away, time zone wise, but
like five hours.
SPEAKER_03 (42:26):
I know, yeah, it's a long ride, it runs.
We know we've done it twice.
I was gonna say, I'll be homefor Christmas.
I have not gotten my flight yet.
Okay, but I will be home.
Um, so let's chat.
Let's chat about me coming down.
I feel like all of us want tocome down to see you guys
because last year we just didn'tbecause we saw you at the
(42:49):
wedding.
SPEAKER_02 (42:50):
No, I feel like oh that's true.
It was like the year beforethat.
I feel like it's been liketwo-ish, like you guys usually,
it's usually like an annualthing, but last year we saw each
other at the wedding, so itwasn't doable for Christmas, but
yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (43:02):
Yeah, but we we love you, we miss you.
That's not my bad.
SPEAKER_03 (43:08):
Love you, miss you guys too.
SPEAKER_02 (43:11):
Yes, and then we'll have we will do an episode with
you and your sisters to do likea cousin themed thing.
Yes, yes, we'll do like familystuff.
We'll talk, we have we'll haveso many stories about nanny and
pop up and just like growing upand like only stuff like we
yeah, of course, with thethunderstorms, we've got a lot.
SPEAKER_03 (43:28):
Stay tuned, we have a lot for you guys, a lot to
unpack.
SPEAKER_02 (43:32):
Yeah, things will be really things will only be like
really special to us, but likeYeah, pop-up Spanish rice.
SPEAKER_03 (43:37):
I've never had another like it.
SPEAKER_01 (43:38):
Like actually, the next time I had some chicken,
his chicken.
SPEAKER_03 (43:44):
I actually think that I've gotten it down to
taste like his.
I'm not kidding.
Next time I see you guys, oryou're here, like I'll make it
for you because I broil it andI've got this specific
seasoning.
I'm like, this is what pop upused.
Told me about that.
SPEAKER_04 (43:55):
It was Uncle Tony's or something.
SPEAKER_03 (43:57):
Yeah, Creole seasoning, it's like something,
something.
Yeah, I have I'll just take apicture and send it to you guys.
But oh so good.
Oh my gosh, so good.
And of course, the spaghetti, ofcourse, spaghetti night.
And then spaghetti spaghetti ina bag, spaghetti in a bag.
Anybody?
She said, love you, love you.
SPEAKER_02 (44:18):
Oh my god, the sausage, and whenever I used to
slip over, they used to make thebiscuit biscuits.
Like, I know it's just bisquick,but it was just like still, I
never had that it takes eggs andthe bisquick, and just like oh
my gosh, like the leftoversausage, like literally.
I think about them so much, likeoften.
(44:39):
I'm just like, they wouldliterally eat the children up.
SPEAKER_03 (44:43):
Oh, for sure, for sure.
They would have loved it just tolike be able to have them over,
you know.
SPEAKER_02 (44:51):
Not just that, but like I feel like nanny and both
of them, Papa would like make away to like come down here to
like, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03 (45:00):
Like honestly, Pop up would have figured it out,
and Nanny would have been like,All right, let's go.
Like he figured everything out.
And also, of course, Christmas,when he would come to the house
with like a bag full ofpresents, I was like, Pop up,
how did these presents like whyare you bringing them?
He goes, Santa brought them.
I was like, to your house?
He goes, Yeah, and now I'mbringing them here.
(45:21):
I go, Oh my gosh, there's so itwas so many toys.
Like, and then he went to yourguys' house and brought them for
Sherry too.
I don't know if I imagine he didit for you too.
Yeah, he would always make surehe did it in the morning.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, so fun.
And I loved also, I mean,obviously, we're gonna end the
podcast soon, but I loved thatwe lived five minutes away from
(45:45):
each other.
You know what I mean?
Like just wasn't it sevenminutes?
Sure.
I mean, no, I think what I willsay, what I will say though, is
that it was one hour walking,and I'll say that story for a
different time.
Me and Shri literally walked itbecause okay, I guess I'll tell
it now.
Because did you go?
(46:06):
Did you go through Willomere?
No, we didn't.
We went on like the main roadand we walked the whole way past
shop, right?
Super G, stop and shop, all thevariations.
Um, because your mom mademeatballs the night before, and
we were so hungry at my house.
And Shree looked at me, shegoes, Well, I have meatballs in
my house.
I go, Well, how are we gonna getthere?
We were too young to drive.
My dad was home.
(46:26):
I go, Hey, can me and Shri walkthere?
And he goes, Sure.
We were like, Oh my god, that'sso cool.
We walked for an hour just toget meatballs at your house.
Honestly, we were living, it wasgreat.
SPEAKER_02 (46:37):
It was so meatballs that you loved, her pasta salad,
her tuna fish.
SPEAKER_03 (46:43):
Let me let me tell you, let me tell you something
about Daisy's pasta salad.
Like, there is nothing else thattops that like no, and the I
still make it to this day.
Tawana, everyone gives me somuch credit.
They're like, Blair, your pastasalad's amazing.
I go, you don't even know thehalf of it.
This isn't my recipe.
This is my Aunt Daisy's recipe.
And they were like, Okay, well,shout out to your Aunt Daisy.
(47:05):
Every time we do anything in thesummer, we go to someone's
house, we're having a barbecue.
They're like, Hey Blair, can youmake your pasta salad?
I'm like, of course.
It takes like two seconds.
SPEAKER_01 (47:14):
Like, it's not mine, but sure.
SPEAKER_03 (47:16):
And I'm like, and I can show you how to make it.
They're like, No, no, no, no, Ijust want you to make it.
I'm like, okay, I'm like, it'sso simple.
You could be having this everyweekend.
Yeah.
Oh my god, it was great.
It was so simple.
SPEAKER_02 (47:26):
I love it.
I miss literally Nellie said, Imiss Papa's sausage on
spaghetti.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
It was, I used to love to haveit.
Like, obviously, there'd beenough for leftovers, obviously,
all the time.
unknown (47:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (47:40):
So it's like leftovers on like Saturday, and
I'm just like, oh my gosh, thebest.
SPEAKER_03 (47:47):
It was so good.
It was so, so good.
And he used to make the sauce.
Like he used to make like it waslike jar sauce, but like he
would add like green pepper.
Yes, so much to it.
Like, I never honestly, not tobe like, I mean, I don't know
how this will come across, butlike I have not had a pasta
sauce like it since, but I willknow when I do because it just
(48:10):
stands out in my mind everyFriday, which I know, and we can
get into the politics on that ofwhich day was for which meal.
But for me, every Monday waschicken.
Tuesday, it toss up, Wednesday,Chinese food.
Shout out, Shanghai Express.
Ted, love y'all down.
Yeah.
Shanghai Express is so good.
(48:31):
And then on Thursday was pizza.
Love y'all big.
And then on Friday it wasspaghetti night.
And pizza was a littlecontroversial because we would
always be changing like brands,kind of.
So for a while we had PapaJohn's Hut or Papa John's.
Yeah, until we startedcomplaining.
Well, not complaining,advocating.
(48:51):
Let me positively reframe.
I love dominoes.
Okay.
Oh my gosh, hi.
I love dominoes, you know.
So we had that, and then we hadPizza Hut, yes, and Papa John's.
So yes.
Anyway, is this where I leaveyou?
Is this where we're gonna signoff?
I think so.
I miss you so much.
(49:11):
We both miss you so much.
I miss you guys too.
I was just actually okay.
I know I said we were gonna end,but hold on.
I was just talking to myparents, and I was like, you
guys, listen, seasons arechanging, and obviously, like
people like we're going intodifferent seasons of life.
So if ever, do not hesitate.
(49:32):
If you need me to move home, youlet me know.
So I don't know.
I feel like I more than before,I feel like I'm more open to
like moving back to the eastcoast if I need andor want to.
So yeah, stay tuned for anychanges like that.
But right now, what I will sayis that I really do like living
on the west coast.
(49:52):
So we'll see.
Who knows?
Who knows?
SPEAKER_02 (49:55):
Yeah, I get that, and we love you and we miss you.
SPEAKER_03 (50:00):
I love you guys, and I'll talk to you later.
unknown (50:04):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (50:06):
Love you guys.
SPEAKER_03 (50:07):
Bye.
Bye, my October birthday,cousin.
SPEAKER_02 (50:12):
Birthday twin-ish month twin.
SPEAKER_03 (50:17):
Yeah, signing off.
unknown (50:19):
All right, guys.
SPEAKER_04 (50:22):
We'll talk to you soon.
Bye.
Bye.
SPEAKER_02 (50:28):
All right, everyone.
This was another episode of Turnthe Page Podcast.
Thanks for hanging out.
Don't forget to like, listen,and subscribe.
And also don't forget to leave areview, please, and let us know
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Talk to you soon.
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