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Michael & Mary speak of wellness & welcome guest Grace Guiliano PisciottaEnergy Healer, Intuitive, Reiki, Crystal Healer & Meditation. 
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Two Psychics from the East Coast, Michael & Mary offer powerful experiences about spirituality, psychic phenomenon & self-help. Each episode covers exciting topics, segments such as mediumship, remote viewing, meditation, as well as guests & audience call-ins for readings. Michael Edley is an Evidential Medium and Spiritual Visionary. Since the age of three, Michael has connected to spirit. He has used these abilities to guide him throughout his life as a Psychic Medium. These gifts have led him to be an entrepreneur, business owner, real estate investor and composer/musician. Recently Michael has finished his latest release; "Divine Journey of a Mystic Soul”. Which uses therapeutic sound healing to rebalance and support our body’s energy systems. As an evidential medium, Michael is a bridge between two realms. Using his highly attuned abilities. Michael inspires profound spiritual growth and life changing transformation to all of his clients. Mary Amy is a Certified Intuitive Wisdom Coach & Reiki Master. She has utilized her clairvoyant abilities for the past nine years, receives divine messages & premonition dreams. Her books Available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B07XMRFKM2
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Welcome the Two Psychics.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
This is Michael Edley.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Evidentially recording in progress.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Discussing all things spiritual.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hello.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
I'm Mary Amy of Two Psychics, an intuitive wisdom coach,
tapping into your mystical life and sharing messages I receive
about you.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
Hi, What is up?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Mary Amy? How are you good? How are you?

Speaker 6 (00:51):
Welcome everyone to Two Psychics Episode forty six.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
Tonight.

Speaker 6 (00:57):
It's all about wellness and we have a wonderful guest,
Grace Giuliano Piscata, and she is an intuitive. She does reiki,
she does crystals, and I'll get into that. How are you, Michael,
What's new? What's going on since we last spoke.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I am doing very well.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I apologize if my voice is a little froggy tonight.
I had a Marge event yesterday last night, so I
was talking quite a bit, and you know I can
talk a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:26):
Yes again, and I'm suffering too, And I said, how
am I going.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
To do this? But you know what, you got to
keep going.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
The show must go on, right, Yes, moving towards the gold,
towards your destiny.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
So it's funny talking about wellness. I guess we'll talk
initially about throat wellness, throat wellness.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I can tell you pure honey.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Lozengers are fantastic if you have a sore throat or
a froggy throat. So I am enjoying my honey lozenger
my teat my nice like that, look at my nice book,
so my anti and my lozengers, and I think I'll
be good. But yes, holistic wellness so interesting. I think

(02:10):
that's kind of the theme of tonight's show. And tonight's
guest has a lot of expertise in the area of
holistic wellness. One aspect of holistic wellness that I think
has overlooked a lot is tapping into our creative very piece.
So whether like you you know, painting, writing a book,
all those creative endeavors and with me music, but not

(02:35):
just those type of things. Even getting into the zone
by you know, building, some people doing needlework, or you know,
even architects designing, you know, buildings and planning. A lot
of that stuff puts you into the zone. And one thing,
one connecting energy link that I've seen between a lot
of my clients and even a little bit of the
energy that I find flowing through different events I'm doing,

(02:57):
is there seems to be a lot of uncertainty of
you know, where are things going, but not necessarily things
on a whole a lot of people who are looking
at not just the macro level, but they're looking at
it on the micro level. So people want to know, Hey,
in this type of transition, in this type of energy cycle,
you know, how can I manifest this? Or you know,
I really truly feel like my soul is calling me

(03:19):
to do this?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
How do I get started?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
And the one thing is I think people overthink it,
and I think it's as simple as just getting back
to your creative passion, whatever that may have been, you know,
as child, and think about those things that really call
your interests, that really drew your attention in and you
could just be enamored in the energy of it for hours,
you know what. Like you, I'm sure when you're when
you were painting some of your your pictures or writing

(03:44):
writing the book and Mary Amy is very close right
that book's coming along. Yes, is creative endeavors. They put
us in the zone. And by going into that zone,
I truly think that's where you need to be if
your soul is calling you to do something or you're
you know, you that passion, but you're not really sure.
And I think if we can kind of ground into,
tune into that energy, the way we'll present itself. You know.

(04:06):
So sometimes we overthink or we feel we have to
have it over figured out, you know, have it all
figured out. I think if we can let go of
trying to control and harness that energy and allow it
to flow naturally, get into that flow state, and allow
that creative energy, that divine energy, to flow through us,
that's where it's gonna happen. That's where the spark is

(04:27):
gonna ignite, you know. So I think that's the biggest thing.
Connect to your creative outlet of whatever that is. And
most of us get caught up in the day to
day to do list priorities and we lose that, but
we don't have time for it. It's absolutely essential to
get back to that and make sure you make time
for it. It doesn't have to be much, you know,

(04:47):
it could just be sketching a couple of minutes a day,
writing out your thoughts, writing a chapter, you know, writing
a paragraph of a chapter, so you know you can
keep it simple and just start, you know, that would
definitely be one of the underlying things. I think to
mental wellness, you know, and that mental wellness trickles down
into the physical wellness, and you know, and the spiritual

(05:08):
wellness kind of intertwines between all of it.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
I I have to tell you a couple of things,
and I'll get into what I have about the wellness
I've been I've been sharing with everyone here, our viewers,
our listeners that I've been working on this book.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
It's called Miracle Healing Continuum, and.

Speaker 6 (05:30):
And I've I've outlined the chapters and I'm getting through
the chapters and then I'm going back and revamping. And
this is the first time that I've actually pursued writing
a full, full like a book.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I did a.

Speaker 6 (05:47):
Dream journal, which was more or less just an introduction
with some some room for entries, you know, one hundred entries.
I wrote a little tiny spiritual guide under when I
have the name Blue Butterfly when I first started doing this,
and then I did a children's book.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
But this is a full on book. And I have
to tell you what's coming up is I'll go on
a walk and getting in touch with nature. I am.
I guess it's almost like a meditative state for me
because my mind starts to open up, and I guess
the nature helps me relieve some of my past.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
And let me tell you, it's not easy to tell
the truth about yourself, about being really frank about what's
happened in your life, because you're exposing yourself and you're vulnerable,
and then you say, what if people don't like it,
or then they criticize, Like I'm thinking in my mind,
I'm writing this morning, and I'm talking about the fact

(06:53):
that I didn't graduate college, I had gotten married, I
had a child, and I had a child at twenty one,
and I'm saying to myself, like, oh my gosh, people
are gonna say, like, what makes you think you could
write a book if you haven't even graduated college.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
It's not like I'm an Ivy league, you know, persona.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
I don't have this huge education and a lot of
people walk around with master's degrees. So there's a lot
of allowing myself to be me, and I have to
say that in regard to everyone out there, what I
would say is try to not.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Focus on what everyone.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
Else is thinking when you're doing something creative, because then
it will stifle what you're doing. It's not going to
be as good because at the end of the day,
I believe that me writing the truth is going to
be more relatable.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Than me hiding something.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Right. Yeah, absolutely, And just a side note, some of
the most brilliant minds in the world, never mind graduating
graduating college, some of them didn't even graduate high school.
Just a side note. And it's pretty amazing when you
really look at people. And the other thing too, is
I think a lot of people limit themselves with age,
which I can truly say I think you too, Like

(08:06):
age is just a number, and it's a mindset thing
and the most amazing thing when you look at certain people.
Let mean take okay, a famous brand of like Kentucky
Fried Chicken and the Kernel. You know, his recipe didn't
break till I think he was sixty or sixty ten
years old and created this billion dollar empire with chicken,
and it didn't happen until he was in his sixties,

(08:26):
you know. So it's crazy when we think about these things.
Even a lot of a lot of people that break
into just different varying industries. You know, when you hear
their story or hear what they've done, you know, sometimes
it hasn't been until that chapter after, you know, that
later chapter in life, after they've gotten that experience and
that wisdom you know, under their belt and help them
navigate and how.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
They needed to navigate, you know. So it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
But yeah, I think society and the way we're raised
and the expectations and the education system kind of puts
those self limiting beliefs on us, you know, Society, everyone,
I think it gets caught in that trap, you know,
and part of it is you have breaking through that,
you know, and it's a process.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah, the truth will set us free.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
So over the weekends. Last weekend, I went to this
party and it was an event for my boyfriend's nephew
and I met all these people that I had never
met before. And it was so funny because these women

(09:35):
would come up to me.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
And ask me the same round of questions related to
what we.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Do to you?

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Are you a palm reader?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
You know?

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Do you do terror cards? What can you do? How
do you do it? And then I was like ohing
on and it was a lot of talking, which I'm
not used to doing.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I just do a lot.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
I isolate myself a lot, and unless I have to,
I don't go out into crowds of people. I don't
go out in you know, I'm not out there most
of the time.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
I like to kind of hunker down at home and
do something creative. So I wasn't used to it, and
it was funny because it reminded me I did do.
I don't know if you've done this.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
I did take a class in tarot cards when I
first started becoming an intuitive and I got certified, and
I was pretty good at it. But I just found
that it was like a prop. It was, you know,
it's not necessary.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
It's a prop. I mean, although look, I think it's
a great thing.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
I want to get psychic. Evelyn from Scotland she has cards.
I know, Laura Fay has cards. It's just not something
that like I want to utilize. Did you ever have
you ever done tarot cards?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
No?

Speaker 1 (10:46):
You know what, I've had some really interesting experience with
tarot cards, and it wasn't necessarily my deck.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I have decks just for my own use and fun.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
And you know, when I'm working with students and I'm
trying to teach them psychic exercises, a lot of time
we'll use the deck. You know, we're different varying decks
see the problem problem with the deck what I found
was a lot of readers is sometimes they start putting
it's almost like they put all their trust in the cards,
and rather than being the conduit and just allowing the

(11:15):
cards to kind of direct pick up the emotions of
the sitter, pick up some of the energy that's imprinted
in it, sometimes they start relying on it too much.
And I you know, for me, the best thing is
getting the pure information. You know, for me, I believe
if I'm using some kind of tool or technique, it's
more for study or training.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
You're trying to teach somebody. But I think for a
lot of people.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
When maybe when they're not like an active medium and
you're not used to that overwhelming level of energy coming
at you in all different ways.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I mean, it's you really have to train yourself to
be ready for that. Especially a gallery.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Where you may have several hundred souls, sometimes it can
be thousands of souls trying to break the barrier, trying
to break that energetic plane, and if you don't know
what you're doing, you can be very overwhelmed by it.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
And I think that's why a lot of times people
are fearful of it. It's not to be fearful. It's
not to be feared of. It's actually something very beautiful
and divine.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
But it can feel very overwhelming, and it can almost
be like an energetic drowning. Is the only way I
can describe it. Before I really understood it, it was
almost like I was the energy was suffocating me.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
It's in a sense, and I had to learn to
work through that energy. Once I learned to work through.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
It, I saw how empowering it could be, and it
shifted and changed everything, literally every aspect of it. But
a lot of times, you know you're dealing in the cards,
depending on how well practiced someone is with the decks
they're using or the deck they're using. You know, you
can pick up a lot of emotional energy in that,
you can pick up a lot of the sitters energy.

(12:47):
So there are some like psychic variables around that, and
then you've got some people that just totally depend on
the cards.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I think, you know, it's a tool like anything else, But.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
I think when you want to do what I'm doing
the car, you know, it would almost be a disservice
to what it is because with the cards I can't
bring through very specific names and dates and the evidence.
And for me, you know, as cool as the cards are,
I wouldn't bring them into one of my readings unless
it was like for myself or a friend and we

(13:16):
kind of knew the deck and they kind of they
wanted the card reading and more of a novelty thing.
But you know, there are some people that are phenomenal
with it. I can tell you I had used a
Taro deck that was from someone that worked with it,
you know, very fluently, and got really accurate information out
of it.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
And when I imprinted my energy on this.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Deck and started using it, I literally did a layout
of everything that transpired in twenty twenty and it.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Scared the crap out.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Of me and it was just like whoo. So I
can tell you can really pull very accurate information from that.
But I think you already have to be very very
established any energy you're working with to get that energy
imprinted on the cards, because that's really what it is.
You're you know, the energy is imprinting on the cards
and you're reading that, you know, and it can bring

(14:12):
some cool insight and guidance. I like that as far
as a tool when you're practicing and you're working, but
you can just use a regular deck, and we've talked
about that, looking at what type of symbol is it,
what is the number, what's the color, and those things
can are the basis of understanding our psychic energy and
how it feels in us. And that's I think what
a lot of people don't understand. You're not just getting

(14:34):
these pieces of information imprinted. You know, whether you're hearing
it or you're seeing it. You know in your mind's eye,
you're really developing an energy and a sensation of that transition,
and you're you're starting to learn a language.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
And not only are you getting that.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Psychic insight, but your body in the sense is becoming
a compass or like the Geiger counter, you know, and
you're starting to learn that energy and what it feels like.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
So I can tell you when someone sits in front
of me, I.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Immediately know energy that steps in is interconnected to their
mother's side of their father's side, and I can usually
see where in line they are of like age and
where they passed around that person, you know, so whether
they're a young or older, and it's how they come
into me and what part of my body starts vibrating,
and I get a certain sensation almost like pins and needles.

(15:22):
And I've developed that, and I had to develop that
with them, you know. And it was deep meditations and
working this process and procedures and trying it out and
testing it. And it can be done, you know, absolutely.
But that's what I want. I want the evidence I'm
going to bring through the names and the dates and
the pieces of knowledge and information.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
You don't need it to show people.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
You don't show people like after death is you know,
it's it's just the body dies, this all doesn't.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
You don't need it.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
See, I think that it's what like, everyone has their
own style and this under these modalities, and some people
it really resonates with them and it's like it and
they do it and it really works for them. And
then but and I thought it was fun and it
was I really what I was getting was in the cards,

(16:10):
So I didn't really feel like I needed the cards.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
But other people have like a whole other view of.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
It, and they and there and there, I mean, they're
really schooled in it and they realized or maybe they
grew up around it. But it was interesting because out
there in the public, it's like do you read palms
like they almost want the old time gypsy.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
There's a reason why certain very ancient traditions have carried
through and obviously the original like terrot cards tradition using
a regular deck of playing cards, something very long, you know,
it has very long old ancient Indian lineage, you know Indian.
We look at ancient we look at you know, every

(16:59):
we look at all culture, and they had something even
look at like roonstones, you know when we look at all,
look at like the vikings. You know, they they had
basically if you look at roonstones, when you think of
the old the old Norse cultures, like they were utilizing that.
And then you saw you know, different Persian like the
if you look at the most ancient culture that they

(17:20):
say basically established all of current humanity. We look at
ancient Persia, which is now you know, if we're looking
at you know, the Middle East area, and it's amazing
some of the ancient texts that they found, and they
could see they were using some type of you know,
almost like a wooden card, and then that transition into
you know, paper and different things. But this is stuff

(17:42):
that's been around for a long time, and I think
there's reasons for that. Even palm reading, you know, that's
something that goes back through my like Hungarian gypsy luggage,
and it's interesting and it's something I've always found fascinating.
And as a young child, probably ten twelve years old,
I had my palm ready by a very well versed
gypsy And what's amazing is literally tall me within gave

(18:07):
me like a twenty year span of what was going
to happen in my life by my lines, you know,
and what you know, and what had happened in previous
lines and different characteristics and personality traits, and it was
pretty accurate, you know, for someone just looking at my
end and looking at whatever they understood about that it was,

(18:28):
you know, it was pretty informative of who I was,
you know, what my personality was. And it's interesting because
a lot of my life path and what was important
to me and how things had unfolded, you know, she
saw it in my palm.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
So yeah, I mean there's a lot to this stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
And I think what happens is, you know, people get
caught up with one type of tool, and sometimes that
kind of closes them off to other opportunities to learn
and grow spiritually. So that's what I say is learn
about all of it, understand it, utilize what resonates with you,
and if it doesn't, move on to something else, you know,

(19:07):
and because this really is a personal journey.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
So that's what I think.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
You know, if it resonates with you, whether it's you know,
the cards or a room roomstones or whatever that may be,
try to look at it and try to look at
it how we've used authentically authentically through ages of time,
you know, and how can you incorporate that into what
you're doing now or learn from it all the tool.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Yeah, we all have psychic abilities.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
Okay, So Grace is going to be coming on, So
I'm going to just cover what I have on wellness
and then give you a little a little explanation of
her work and then we'll bring her out. Okay, all right,
So I have wellness is balanced well being. It's your
quality of life and good health. Wellness spiritual wellness entails

(19:57):
living healthy mind, body, spirit, living.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
With that lens.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
And that includes meditation, activity, healthy eating, sleep, barefoot on
the earth, personal boundaries and gratitude, your personal transformation, the
life that you want, your intention and purpose, physical well being, eating,
what where when? How moods and emotions equals strength and

(20:22):
mind vitality. How to achieve wellness includes physical activity, joy
and pleasure, outdoors, fresh air, getting enough sleep and rest.
And now, accept and release emotions and suppressed feelings, Understanding
your emotions, self reflection, observing, listening, communication, and paying attention.

(20:45):
It's about self discovery, embracing yourself, joy and self love
and having a purpose.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
What is your life?

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Mind?

Speaker 5 (20:53):
Body, spirit? For the got Okay? So, who is Grace? Well?
You can reach Race.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
I'm gonna bring her out and I hope I can
figure this out now that I put her in the
waiting room. You can find Grace at grace spiration dot
com which is g r A c E s O
S p I R A t I O n dot
com and you can find it on the description for

(21:23):
this video and the show. So Grace is a passionate
energy healer and driving force behind Grace Spiration. She offers
intuitive guidance with energy talks, reki healing, crystal deviation, massage,
and rain drop therapy using natural essential oils. With a
deep commitment to holistic wellness, she helps individuals find balance, clarity,

(21:47):
and healing through personalized sessions and spiritually inspired inside inspired creations.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Sorry, I'm losing my voice.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
Beyond her work, she is blessed to be married for
forty years to the love of her life and cherish
your role. As a devoted mother to four children and
proud grandmother of five.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
She is a loving aunt to her.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
Nieces and nephews and dedicated to guiding others on their
spiritual journeys. She combines intuitive energy work meaningful symbolism to empower, empower, transformation, healing,
and personal growth. Okay, so let's bring her out? And
how am I going to bring her out?

Speaker 1 (22:28):
How do I do this?

Speaker 5 (22:29):
Let's see admit she's coming up.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Hi, welcome, Grace. How are you go?

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Mary Amy.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
It's such a pleasure to see you again. Michael. So,
I'm so happy to finally meet you. I've heard so
much about you and I've been watching your podcast that
I can have the pleasure of meeting you in person.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Absolutely likewise, pleasure, pleasure having you here.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Thank you, Thank you for joining us. I don't know
if you heard.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
I don't know if you can see, but I just
did a little explanation of your background.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Okay, No, I didn't hear.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Oh okay.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
So I basically took your bio because I wanted everyone
to have like some kind of outline of who you are.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
So I met Grace.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
I went to an Awaken wellness fair, which is where
I originally met Michael in twenty fifteen, and I was walking. Yeah,
I was walking around, and I was drawn to you,
and I knew right away that you were a person
with a pure heart. You I can still remember that moment,

(23:38):
and you had like a lot of glow about you,
and you were.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Very sincere.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
And yeah, when you came over to me and said
the beautiful things you said, and started to cry a
little bit because I knew you had read my heart.
And I'm in this to help so many people, and
that's exactly what my message always is, and help one person,
and I love to help thousands. That's why I started
this whole journey. And I was just so touched that

(24:06):
you saw that. So that was wonderful. I loved, I
loved that day.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
It was just wonderful me and you immediately saw that.
So I know that you know you're a great person
for people to find. Now your work online, I know
Michael has a question.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
So now to start with your question, Michael, before I
start getting into all her different avenues that she's taken.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Which ones I have? I have a couple of questions,
so I might I might have you lead off with
this one, Okay, me?

Speaker 6 (24:38):
Yeah, yeah, okay, So Grace, what I'm I what what
I'm curious about? Because I don't know you know some
of what you do. I don't I'm not really familiar with.
I am curious about what crystal divination is.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Okay, So what crystal divination is is actually taking crystals
that I feel I am drawn to for the person
that is in that session. There are certain crystals that
give off energy for maybe the workplace or someone's romantic relationship,
but it's also about the feelings and emotion that they
need to bring to that situation. So a crystal divination

(25:19):
is intuiately guided, and I basically just close my eyes
and draw a grid, and sometimes names come up, and
sometimes dates come up, and then I will place the
crystals where I believe they need to be, and they
will have a conversation about it, and someone will say, hey,
oh my god, how did you know that person is
in my life? Or that's what? So it's just something.

(25:40):
It's just another way of moving energy around. And I
was just always so interested in crystals and they actually
speak to me. So I meditated before we signed on,
as I always do, and I was drawn to crystals
for both of you. So it's funny that you should
open with that question, you Mary. I just thought, like,

(26:01):
Lapis Lazuli, you need to have this blue crystal with
you all the time. It's for your third eye and
to keep you balanced in all those avenues, for your
self awareness, because I think when we're hereer sometimes we
forget the rest.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Of who we are.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
But I saw that very strongly for you.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
So La, can you spell that, because I'm gonna go
get it.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yes, lap Is l a p i s Lazuli l
a z u l I.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
I've heard of that. This is so exciting. I love it.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
I have to see.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
I put little crystals here, you know, I have around
my home. I have buckets.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
I have thousands of these six crystal six stones, because
I had created this book Earthly in the gemstones, and
these were the six crystals or six gemstones, and I
had had little sacks made and you bought the book
and you bought the stones. But then I found that
it was just too difficult to try to do that.

(27:00):
You sell it on Amazon, Like, how is that product?

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Sometimes to be a little difficult, But that's a great idea.
I love that that it coincides with the book. Okay, yeah,
that's one.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
Well he gets each one represents a different virtue love, peace, nature, wisdom, spirituality,
and vision.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
So I'm want to sorry that it's hard for me
to see. For over here, what crystals do you have
over there?

Speaker 5 (27:19):
Do you have a raw here's a raw? Or lots
of crystal quarts?

Speaker 3 (27:27):
This is Amazon I okay, yeah, I have a lot
of amethyst. Uh huh, lack obsidian, which is great for carnarian. Yeah,
the crenelion is wonderful. I scouted that one right away.
That's perfect for you to love gem. Yeah. Rose quarts,

(27:47):
Oh they're great. Yeah, love Jim. I always like to
add that as self love, Jem, because to me, the
rose course is about our self love, and if we
are about loving ourselves, we become love and that's all
we admit out to the world and then people respond
to each other in that loving way. So for me
at roal sports is always self love. And I'm going
to talk about something that I do with row Sports later.

(28:09):
But Michael, for you, I just saw a tiger's eye
everywhere because is a protected stone. And I'm sure you
guys know a lot about crystals as well, but it
enhances your self confidence. And I also kept hearing protection
for you when you travel. I don't know if you
travel a lot with what you do, but I feel
like sometimes when you travel and you do what you

(28:30):
do the psychic greetings, people may get like self defense
feelings about what you say if they don't believe what
you say, and that could create some negative energy around here.
So that's all I heard for you is that you
need to always carry a tiger's eye to protect yourself
as well as promote your self confidence and keep that
negative energy at bay. So yeah, so that's crystal.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, get a nice tiger stone. You put it with
my other stuff here.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Absolutely absolutely can never have enough crystals, according to absolutely No.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
It's a grace, it's a pleasure having you here. And
I just wanted Mary gave me to start off because
because you two have met prior, obviously this is our
first time meeting. Well, one thing that always fascinates me
with the healer's journey, and obviously, like OS, you're also
a healer and being called to do this work.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I always want to know the why. You know, what
was the transition? What, what was that switch? What was
that crossroad?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
You know? I want you to where you are now.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
I could never say it was a switch, because I
feel like my healing journey, my spiritual waking, I can't
remember a time that it wasn't on it and I
seeing that, Oh, as a child, I remember this happening.
I just look back and know the kind of person
I was as a child and then into adulthood, and
as a child, it was very empathic, and I knew
that I could send people's energy, and I thought everybody could,

(29:54):
and there are the way people would interact with each other,
and I didn't understand that they didn't I feel someone's emotion, like,
you know, why are they speaking to them that way?
Can't they sense they're not comfortable with that? And then
as I got older, I started to experience what that
felt like, being in a room with people and knowing, hey,
I don't want to be near that energy, or I

(30:14):
love that energy, I want to come closer to it.
I could actually feel it. So as I got a
little older, maybe go back about twenty years, they start
to implement energy and say, Okay, if I'm experiencing this,
can I project this type of energy meaning healing love
to someone in a room if I'm just sitting next
to them or I just touched their hand. And I

(30:36):
would find that I could. People would just say to me, Hey,
when I'm next to you, I just feel great about myself.
I feel like I want to tell you my life story.
My daughter used to say, why do people want to
tell you their whole life story when they're with you?
And I think it's because they started to implement the
energy and experiment with it. And then my life. I

(30:57):
had four major losses in my life family members, my aunt,
my dad, my cousin, and most recently my mom. And
after each loss, I felt my vibration going higher because
in the pain, I received a gift with each one
and what those gifts were were based on different healing
modalities that I was bringing to me, but now I

(31:19):
realized they could bring out to other people. For my aunt,
it was the first time that I recognized what an
energy talk was. That's one of my services on my
website and an energy talk is basically what we talked about,
sitting near someone and letting them feel your energy. But
at the same time, I am totally guided to say, hey,
this is what's going on with you, but I think

(31:40):
you need to work on And people will often say
to me, how did you know that? I didn't say
anything yet, But I discovered that in sitting next to
my aunt for four months when she was bravely ill,
because she was in hospice care and I would sit
with her every day and it was just about that interaction,
and she'd say, when you're here, I feel so much better.

(32:00):
I know I'm dying, and I know I have cancer
and I'm sick, but there's something about the energy that
comes from you and our conversations. And granted she was
my aunt my whole life. I was forty years old,
she was seventy five. We talked about everything in life,
but there was something about those four months that we
went deep and we talked about spirituality, and she finally
was comfortable in a place in her life which was

(32:21):
death was coming. And she said, you may feel comfortable
to accept what is in front of me because we've
talked about my whole life and how I've dealt with spirituality,
so that transitioned to Energy Talks. That is a service
I offer. And then five years after that, my dad
got sick with cancer and I was helping my mom

(32:43):
care for him, and you know, we did the usual
chemotherapy and radiation, and I was very, very into physical healing,
meaning that the body needs to be strong with nutritional
therapy and exercise because I was also an exercise enthusiast
and a personal trainer. And I realized all those things
were not helping my dad to deal with his illness.

(33:05):
And the hospital said, hey, we have volunteers. I can
come and do different things. Would you like a volunteer
to come and sit with your dad? And I'm like sure,
what do they do? She's like, oh, they'll explain when
they got there. So this woman arrived and she asked,
my dad, do your mind if you just take off
your shirt and I want to put my hands on
where your sickness is, your lungs, your back, And he's

(33:27):
like sure, and she basically just moved her hands flow,
almost like a light massage. But then she would stop
and then she would say these wonderful things to him,
like you know, Lou, you're gonna heal. Lou, You're in
a beautiful place, You're accepting of where you are. And
I'm sitting watching what is she doing?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Like what is this? But I was so drawn to it.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
To me, it was another type of energy with mantras
and just touch. So I was experienced with Reikie, but
something she was doing was so different, so that I
enrolled in massage school and I started to learn so
many different modalities, so that came to be massage reiki,

(34:08):
which is what I do also, and I learned that
from watching this woman and how it also made my
dad feel greaty He said, I can say that I
feel better than I have in a long time after
this woman touched me. And I'm not just talking about
why I've been sick. I mean I even felt this
wonderful in years and I was like, this is amazing.
So that was another modality that came to mind that

(34:31):
I could offer because I saw what it different my dad.
And then about six years ago, my cousin, my closest friend,
like my sister, got a very rare disease, but while
she was sick, we didn't know what she had. So
I would go over and sit with her again. And
she would say with me, and I'd say, okay, reki

(34:52):
me and I'd go, oh, okay, I can, but you
have reiki masters and people are far more skilled than me.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
And she's like, I want you.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
And after a Reikie heard, we have these unbelievable conversations
about how she would say, whatever I'm going through, I
don't know what I have, but I feel better when
you're with me. I feel like I can accept it
and move forward with it. And she said, you need
to do this for other people, and I'm like, okay, no,
I need on a big scale and I'm.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Going to give you the money to do it.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
And I'm like, oh no, it'll be ridiculous. She said, no,
I want the world to know about your healing and
I want the world to hear your voice and your words.
So that inspired me to come up with what I
pull a grace box. I have my little box here.
I'm not going to open the show you everything, but
this is kind of what it looks like. And what
it is is a meditation tool for self starters, for

(35:45):
people who maybe want to get in touch with their
spirituality but don't know where to even begin and maybe
they're not comfortable going to a reiki master or talking
about what they need healed. So this box is it
starts you off, but it's self explanatory. It's a guided
meditation with my voice. There's crystals, there's journaling, and there's

(36:08):
also a self help guide. It's step by step instructions
what to do with these crystals and how to meditate.
So even if people say I can't sit still, I
don't know how to meditate, You're just going to listen
to what Grace has to tell you. Sometimes I use
it for myself. So through her illness saying those things
to me, it sporked this Grace box, which is the

(36:32):
heart and soul of gracepiration, I believe. And then the
most recent loss I had was my mom. She passed
away three months ago and I cared for her for
six months, and during her illness, you know, I prepared
myself for the worst that yeah, she could die from
this illness. And I said, but I'll be okay because
I've had such huge losses in my life, the one

(36:53):
being my cousin I just spoke about, I can handle this.
It's my mom, but it's another loss I been dealing
with grief.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I can do this.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
What they didn't expect is that when my mom passed away,
the loss felt so different. I don't know if both
of you have your moms, but when you lose your mom,
you lose almost like a part of who you are,
because your mom is the person that has given you
life in this world, the first person that gave you breath.
So in my head, I'm thinking, without my mom, do

(37:23):
I exist? Do I breathe? To do I live anymore?
And I never thought I would feel that way, because,
like I said, I dealt so great with grief, but
I did, and I had to figure out why. And
that's what I came up with. I'm thinking, I can't
live without my mom, who knows everything about me, the
only person. She has given me everything that I know

(37:43):
who I am? How do I know who I am
without her? And for a moment, I forgot who I was.
I forgot my energy healing, I forgot everything that I
have taught myself through twenty years. And I teach others
and I was just grieving.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
And I was at a loss.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
And then in talking to other people who were going
similar things, I said, you know what there is healing
and helping each other. So I started a group called
the No Mom's Club, which is the most recent thing
to my website. It's a free self help healing journey
for people who have lost their moms, whether it be
in death or distance, because some people don't have their

(38:19):
moms in their life for other reasons. But although the
circumstances are different, the results is the same that loss feeling.
So we've been pretty successful with that the last few months.
And we started out with a meditation and then open discussion,
and then we ended with a reki healing and my
goal there was always for people just to leave that

(38:42):
session a lighter than when they came in, and I
feel that way. So I feel like that's been truly,
truly instrumental in helping me deal with grief, with watching
others and interacting with their energy at the same time.
So those are the babies of Gracepiration. Those fourths I
talked about, and they just all came from my journey

(39:04):
of self healing and finding my way into the spiritual world,
becoming self aware and then trying to self accept because
I think that's a hard part, and then ultimately love
yourself that's where that self love crystal comes in, because
I think that's a hard journey to take if you're
on it. And as spiritual leaders, I think we'd go
up in there and if we can help others get

(39:26):
there and teach them how to get there, I mean,
I think that's the most wonderful thing we can do.
Because so many people ask me, I don't know where
to go, and I don't know. I know I'm missing
something in my life. Where is that peace? And I
often tell them that piece is within you. You're looking
outside of who you are, it's right here, It's in
your soul. And once you find that, everything starts to

(39:49):
come together so much easier and so much hammer and
you feel at ease in life. So that's been my
major goal to have people understand that they can find
inner piece of happiness within. It's not out here, it's here.
I often hear that saying my body spirit, and I

(40:10):
get a little upset about it. And the reason I
get said about it is because I don't like that
the word spirit is least. Because we all are so
in tune with our mind. If we have emotional problems,
you know, or anxiety, we talk to our friends, or
we call a counselor, and then our body. We're going
to the gym, we're eating right or exercising, we're seeing
our doctors and taking medication, and we still have that

(40:32):
piece that something's missing. And a lot of my clients
will come to me and say that I've done everything right.
I'm healthy physically, I go to a psychiatrist and I
talk about my problems, but Grace, there's something missing, And
I say, the most important part you haven't tapped into yet.
So to me, I feel like if we tap into
our spirit and our soul first and we teach our children,

(40:54):
that everything else just naturally falls into place, because you
know in your soul what you need, you know what
your body needs, you know what your mind needs, you
know what your heart needs. And I think we got
like just change that narrative. And I think as healers,
we're starting to do that.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Absolutely, that's a that's a beautiful story.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
And I'm so sorry for the loss of your mom
and you know, and and being so recent and I
what I think is so beautiful about your story, And
I find this can resonate with a lot of people
is when we take that loss and that grief and
rather than let that debilitate us, we utilize it to
uplift us.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
And I found the same thing.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
I had a very very hard loss, very close to me,
and I found in those moments a grief were some
of the biggest breakthroughs, you know, whether that led to
you know, dark under the soul and really having a
reflection on my life and my path. But I think
people can they don't understand how powerful it can be
to utilize that grief for self growth, that's right, and

(41:56):
sit with it. You know, a lot of people want
to run from it. And I see that with a
little lot of my clients, and you know, that was
one it's interesting that we're talking about this tonight because
I saw that as one of those connecting, connecting lines
between a lot of people that were at an event
I was doing yesterday, and a lot of people were
running from their grief rather than sitting with it and allowing,

(42:16):
you know, to feel that and grow through it. You know,
because once you know, if you're running from it, you're
never going to grow through that. And it's just a
beautiful story. And I think a lot of our listeners,
I think that's why they're drawn to this show because
we want to give them actual life tools that they
can utilize right now to get through those stages of
grief or you know, how can I spiritually get through

(42:39):
this this block or what can give me that insight
and guidance that You're right. I mean, we're not going
to get it and we're not going to tap into
it any other way. It's that that spiritual realm that
divine through us that's going to lead us. You know.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah, No, I love that story.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
I add the tools and I forgot them for sure.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
People who don't have those tools, you know, you're to
guide them and teach them that they have it. We
all have gifts within us to heal our own selves.
And something important that you said about grief running from it.
I find a lot of my clients when they are
running from grief or running from something they need to
do with you know, it sends a physical body. And

(43:16):
that's why when I do GOSH, I feel those physical
ailments sitting in the shoulder, the heart, the hip, the back,
no support, and I through the energy healing and through
the process of the energy talk, we come to understand
where that started. And if you do tend to move
forward with the session and deal with that. You're right,

(43:37):
you release it and then that pain goes away. And
it's just amazing to me the human body, how it
plays with our heart and soul together, is it just
all works together. It's amazing to me. We need to
work on all three at the same time. But like
I said, to me, spiritually first, So.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's a great point. What I'm really
curious about is, so it's the grace box, is at
the the healing box.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Yes, it's the meditation box. And like I said, it's
stemmed from my cousin's words. And when I first started,
it was hard for me to do something add of
grief for her, as you said, But then I looked
at it. I'm gonna do it in honor of her.
He would have wanted. This is what made her feel better.
And when I just changed the perspective, I can do

(44:26):
anything in honor of her, because, like I said, she was,
you know, the closest person in my life. But yeah,
it's it's a pretty it's a pretty neat meditations will
be counted. Like I said, you can know everything about
spiritualy and get something at it or know nothing, Open
that box, read the instructions, listen to my guide in meditation,
and it tells you where to place the crystals and

(44:47):
what you should be feeling, and you know, it's it's
about balancing your chakras, but also teaching about your chakras
and from there. I also have personalized grace boxes that
if someone has a situation I want to work on
in particular, I can personalize that box for them. And
people have called me to purchase gifts for people and say, hey,
I know they're going through this, can you rake eat

(45:10):
these crystals for this situation and personalize it? And I
will put different things in the box. So yeah, it's
it's been really really a helpful tool in for my
clients and for strangers I don't even know, because you
can buy to my website and then they'll just message
me this was wonderful. I loved it, and yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
That's an awesome way to give them a taste of
all the different modalities and kind of experience it for themselves.
It's funny because that's one of the things we were
talking about Toneyder. Different aspects of wellness or holistic wellness
and how can we incorporate that. You know, one thing
that I think people sometimes remove themselves from or is
that creative connection they have that artistic creativity, and that's

(45:53):
one big thing. And then you know, Mary Amy was
talking about the cards and crystals and we talked about rootstones.
So now someone that's listening and they're not really sure
where to turn, where to go, what would what do
you think would be a very simple wellness item, a
tool they could use, whether it's a you know, learning
a little bit about riki healing, or an essential oil

(46:13):
or crystal, what would be kind of your ground foundation
of maybe start with these one or two things and
grow from there, you know, something that would be in
your box.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Right Well, I always start and I give everyone at
the end of a session a rose sports part because
I believe the foundation of all that we do, especially
for inspiration, is is going inside of our heart and
find the love for ourselves that we can get to
other people. So this is a reminder of that. And

(46:44):
if you meditate with that rose quorts, you can feel
the energy and the love almost giving to yourself. And
I tell people with that crystal hold it and then
hold it in one hand and hug yourself. I mean,
any of us do self hugs.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
We go to school.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
It's amazing. When I did an event back in June
that was part of my meditation to hug ourselves before
the meditation and the healing, and then hug ourselves after.
And then we talked about it and people were like, wow,
I really felt it and meant it. After you went
through the whole, you know, journey of why I needed

(47:20):
to love myself, and then you did the regular before
it was like, eh, and now it's really loving myself.
So to me that rose quarts Crystal and a self
hug and it just close your eyes and feel what
that is. To know that you love yourself or that
you're working on loving yourself. It's the best place to start,
to me, the only place to start to be honest.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, it is an inward journey, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
That's a great absolutely, and.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yeah, ongoing it's yeah. Absolutely. I did something similar for
my granddaughter's school. Her school said, hey, can anybody in
moms or grandparents for like a career day? And my
four year old granddaughter says, Grandma, I want you to call.
And I was like sure, And I'm saying to myself.

(48:05):
What am I going to talk to four year olds
about it? Like, I don't want to be too much.
It needs to be age appropriate. I don't know how
parents are going to feel I start talking about you know,
I don't know. So what I did was I did
a little meditation in a book about self love and
how they need to recognize that how important they are.
And we did the hug and I gave everybody a

(48:26):
mini rose quarts hard and I said, it's hard to
remember that that's the most important thing. So if you
carry this with you, you take it out and you
hold it, it's a reminder of how important it is
to love ourselves. And they loved it. And then I
got such great feedback from the teachers and parents that said,
oh my god, that was a great little program you did.

(48:46):
Would you do it here for the Girl Scouts or here?
I'm like, absolutely, because we don't think about energy healing
or self love on that level for preschoolers for three
to four year olds. But that was the best way
I could lead to them how important it is and
to start them on that journey. So we even started
that young with the rose parts.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Well, that's awesome and it's great starting on that young
and it's an amazing thing. Now, can you share for
some of the parents that are out out there and
they have kids that are there very intuitive or they
feel you know, my kid has all this psychic ability.
I'm not really sure what to do with it or
how to handle it. What would be a few things that,

(49:29):
you know, some suggestions. How could they approach that and
maybe talk about it in that type of way.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yes, absolutely, that that would be the first thing. Just
have a conversation. And when a child expresses they feel
something or they see something, it has to be a
matter of fact conversation. Because I also have my older
granddaughter who is following in my footsteps. And that's how
she came to me to say, Grandma, I love what
you do. I feel like when I pick up a crystal,

(49:55):
I know what it's for, I know how it's going
to help me, and I want to learn about it.
And we just have conversation. And then she asked me
if she could have a raiky session. So I asked
her mom, and she's like sure. We did a fifteen
minute just beautiful spiritual music with my hand on her
and need telling her to think about how to care
for herself and how to love herself and feel confident

(50:18):
so that she can bring that out in the world
and she doesn't have to feel less than when she's
in a room with other people. And I think parents
need to have conversations with their children on that level,
even if they're not intuitive. I mean, we're all intuitive,
but if they haven't recognized it yet. It's just about
knowing who you are inside and never being afraid to
speak about it. But as a parent, we have to
make them comfortable to say, hey, what are you feeling

(50:42):
and what's going on and how can I help you?
And just listen. And parents know what to say to
their kids, and if they don't, they can reach out
to one of us to guide them. Reiki healing on
children is fabulous, so if a parent was interested in
trying a session, that would be amazing. Any age can
benefit from a healing session. But I think parents just

(51:02):
need to talk to the kids more and not be
afraid to approach those questions or hear the answers their
kids have to say, because how many of us are
as kids were afraid to say what we were feeling like.
I don't know when you first noticed gifts that you had,
but it probably weren't the most comfortable thing to tell
your parents or you know, siblings. Hey, I think I
can talk to people or I can feel energy, But

(51:25):
had someone come to you to say, hey, I'm aware
of this and I'm noticing things, let me hear about it.
It makes them comfortable.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
That's a great, great point, and I.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Think I think that's a difficult thing that a lot
of people aren't really sure how to approach it. So
it's a great perspective. I'm going to have to hand
the next question off to Marry Amy, though, I apologize.
And if you're hearing me, get bumped around. My big
Bernie's mountain dog just barged into my he's trying to
jump into my lap.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
I noticed something, but I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
I want to have to kick them out real quick.
So we're going to give you the next question.

Speaker 7 (51:58):
Okay, after you shared with us how you kind of
you reached out and learned about your different, different healing modalities,
you're different into your.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
Different skill set.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
I too. I was thinking, I'm just gonna say it's
a beautiful story, and then and then Michael said it
to you twice.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
I was like, okay, ridding each other's mind or everyone's
going to think it's a beautiful story.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
Both everything. I want to say to you that I
sense fairies. I don't know if people have said to
you about fairies, you and fairies. Have you heard that before?

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (52:36):
I have. I honestly I haven't delved into contacting Billy
end your fairies, but someone has told me that in
the past, and every once in a while does come up.
So tell me, I'm here to hear what you have
to say.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
Okay, So I just.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
Right off the bat, I'm getting fairies around you, and
so the fairies. This is what I'm reading, is that
there's fairies around you that are sending you messages.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
And they're they're kind of not pushing you.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
But.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
Guiding you.

Speaker 6 (53:11):
Actually you're guiding others, but they're guiding you into certain
directions in your life.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
And it's like I just saw just now, I just
saw a like.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
Stacks of information. It almost looks like a pyramid, stacks
of information till you reach the top and you're not
there yet, You're still gaining more about where you're going.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
I do see I do. We talked about a book.

Speaker 6 (53:38):
I do see a book. I see something very uh
it looks kind of like a fairy ish book. Even
the writing that you you do right, children's book.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
And so so you have a lot of of lot
of energy and glow that you get from whether you
realize it or not, from sunlight, just.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
From the sun.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
You get it, right, you?

Speaker 6 (54:17):
Uh you?

Speaker 5 (54:19):
So, so can I just read you a little bit?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Absolutely? And the most people say energy killers follow the
faces of the moon, and.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
I'm not about the moon at all.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
I'm all about the sun. I actually have a necklace
that has a heart and a sun because my heart
is always with the sun. So that's inpeating that you
just read that.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
And so let's see, all right, so I see you
in a past life. I see there's actually the sun
is on its way down. You're traveling with someone and
you have like something that you're carrying on, like a
like a stick with with your with your belongings.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
It's that and you're going you're traveling with someone else
and you're passing along in front.

Speaker 6 (55:04):
Of this sunset and there's water around you. Let's see,
go back to the fairies and the other things. So
I do I do receive from that you are in
a place of abundance, with more and more and more
and more coming. You'll have open arms towards that. You

(55:26):
are not someone who's prevented yourself from receiving. You have
an open heart and you want other people to have
the abundance as well. I'm sure I'm going to get
a lot more about you because I can sense it's
like all openness.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Do you think the fairies are because I'm so involved
with my grandchildren. I have four granddaughters and I'm forever
doing things with them and they are about you know,
fairies and Disney and just such a beautiful spirit around them,
and I love being with them. So maybe the fairies
are guiding me to listen more to my grandchildren because
I say it all the time I had about the Baits.

(56:04):
My granddaughter is the one that pushed me to finish
this children's book because it's about them and their experience
in life, you know, when they were babies. So I'm
curious if that's where the fairies come in.

Speaker 5 (56:16):
Well, you have definitely have a child like innocence about you,
childlike related to you, where it's a pure heart. And
I knew that when I met you. In fact, I
remember flat, something floral.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
You had something going on that was like in a
rose color or something you were wearing and maybe that
would actually.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Pardon me, I was wearing a rose colored skirt.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
Oh okay, yeah, So I think that that's why I
was drawn to you and you you just have this
way about you that you're accessible to people, and I
think that that's why you definitely must continue to do
what you're doing, and even on a grander scale, because

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a lot.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
Of people come off sometimes in this field that they
might not be.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
They might not be someone that people feel comfortable, whether
it's the way they look or the way they carry themselves.
But you across the board, to me, I sense that
you're somebody that many people will understand your words, the
way you express yourself and just you are.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
You're very grounded.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Yes, yes, all that it's okay. I love it. I
love it. I love when people read me and you're
so right on. Everything you said is so true. I
can't believe this. Something that really got me the most
out of everything you said, because like I said, most
people are not the moon, and I just always say
no it for me, it's the sun I just I
feel like my energy glows what I'm out in the sun.

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And my favorite song is Here Comes the Sun by
the Beetles.

Speaker 6 (57:58):
So you so you're following your following your God with
your spirit, you know whatever.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
It's like it's been uncovered.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
You flipped yourself over and now you're looking at what's
the plan and you're kind of being guided to this
is the next thing, and this is the next thing,
and you're following the plan.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
I'm telling you right now, you're following the plan. You're
doing it all right?

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Okay, Yes, there's a lot more ahead of me to
be done, and I know that sensitive ever having different ideas,
So I feel that way, So thank you for confirming that. Yeah,
I feel like there's a lot of people out there
that can use all of our help and help them
tap into their own spirituality and their own happiness and

(58:41):
their own gifts. Because again, I feel like if we
know it comes from within, so many people wouldn't be
searching for all these things they're searching for. And that's
really important for me to recognize help people recognize that
they have that gift within them.

Speaker 6 (58:55):
So can you share with our viewers and our listeners
an example, you know, walk us through someone contacts you.
What you know, are they contacting you and they're saying like, oh, hey,
I'm having an issue, or are they saying I want
to be more spiritual or is it.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Both it's all of the above.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
I would say most people contact me initially because they're
in a place in their life that they're feeling out
of balance, unfulfilled. Like I said, they think they have
done everything right. I'm just not happy inside. I'm not
sure why or having problems with this relationship and I
don't know if it's me or how I'm related. And
it just starts there and then we decide together what's

(59:38):
the best type of healing to move forward with. People
have different comfort zones where they want to start. Some
people want to do an online short session, some people
want to come in person. Some people want to start
with the grace box and be on their own. So yeah,
it basically starts with most of the time, someone feeling
unbalanced and unfulfilled inside and they want me to help
them figure out why. That's you be the reason and

(01:00:02):
doesn't take long before we can, you know, uncover what
things are.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
And most of the time It's nothing so so terrible
that people think, they said, what is happening to me?
It's just get in touch with who you are and
finding out that you can make your own happiness.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
That's really what it is in simple terms.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
They just don't know that they can do that, and
to overthink it, overthink it and ate it absolutely, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
But when you're in touch with your spirit and you're
working on your soul, those overthinking procrastination, they just seem
to go away. They know that said eat, I'm knowing
that's the piece I was talking about. The spirit should
be first, you know. Let me tell that extra stuff
that we're always about. How's the job? He's okay, always good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
I had to kick him out of the office. I
don't even know how we got the door open. But
interesting things like that happen on two side gegs. You
know now of course, line flicker, electrical interference. You know,
dogs jumping in.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
What kind of dog is it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Bernice Mountain dog? Big like a big bear, trying to
jump into my lap. So that's why I had to
hold them, hold them off to I get them out.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Because I've had this experience. Read have you guys had
any experience with with animals, how they respond to you
if you know you're just with them or put your
hands on them. I have noticed more and more that
not only are animals comfortable with me, they kind of
interacting with me that I think they're trying to communicate
with me. So I've been tapping into that a little more.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Yeah, yeah, we've done We've done some episodes on animal
communication and that almost telepathic connection that we have with them.
But yeah, absolutely, they they definitely tap into our energy.
I do believe we connect to them on a deep
energetic level. You know, that unconditional love, that heart that
sold the soul Blend. I do believe we get like
as a medium, you know, that's my goal that sold

(01:01:59):
the soul blo lend with the spirit realm to get
the most accurate evidential information.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
And I feel it's that same connection we have with
the animals.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
You know, it's that soul to soul blend and we
all know, you know, the unconditional love from animals is
it's like, you know, it's unlike anything.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Elseitional Yeah, um is it's hard to get there, but
with an animal.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
It's just there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Yeah, it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Mary Amy just did a wonderful reading of me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
She saw you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Any advice, living guard, a moment, looking for somebod.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
What's interesting is I'm still kind of going between two worlds.
I feel like I had I had a really large
mediumship event yesterday. And what's interesting is I have to
talk to you. Are they yellow roses behind you? Yellow roses?
Or is there a connection to you if they're not
yellow roses. What's very interesting is in my mind's eye
around you when you're talking about your aunt, your mom.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
I don't know if there's a specific.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Connection to the yellow rose, but I feel as if
their energy is pushing through.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
A yellow rose to you, like through me as the conduit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
And what's interesting is I do believe I do believe
grandma to the child, so this would be Mom's energy.
I don't know if there's the younger granddaughter with an
A or there's an A around her or some a
connection that she's bringing me to the A. And I
don't know if she's involved in theater, dance, ballerina like
something where, but she's talking about there's like really encouraging

(01:03:26):
the It's like the theatrical, musical, artistic side of her
and so.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
And I feel like I see her dance. I almost
feel like I see her.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
It's not necessarily a dance competition like cheerleading. It's more
like a theatrical ballerina tap or something like that. Cher
she is a cheerleader, she is Okay, so it's it's
been taking it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
But yeah, some type it's the theater or something with that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Where she's actually doing theatrical movement. But who is the
who is the younger a?

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Who is the my my granddaughter Amelia?

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Okay, yeah, so I'm not sure what why she's bring
on my focus to the egg Amelia.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
But there's some folks now I would say mom was
Mom was pretty connected to her. Is that they all
of them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
I was disconnected to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
All of them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
But yeah, I mean Amelia had some reservations when she
was born. She was premature and always.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Had a soft spot for her that okay, okay, full.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Unhealthy, but she always was a little worried and concerned
about her.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
So that's probably why that's funny, because yeah, it's cool
because her energy comes through like almost it's funny because
the more I connect to you and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Here your voice, the more it opens and connects connects
to them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
What's really interesting is I just feel as if it's
like guardian angel type energy around around the young girls
and she's drawn to her so and you know, and yeah,
so so I would definitely say there's a lot of
a lot of intuitive psychic energy around that one probably too,
probably all of them comes to But it's interesting because

(01:04:55):
the I would say, the one thing, the ery, the
overwhelming energy though that I sent.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
What I'm gonna say is your collective.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
And the funny thing is like, as a medium, I've
I always when it's Mom's side or connected to Mom's energy,
it always comes into my left and that's where like that's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Where the tingling and sensation is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
So that so much connection to Mom's side into the
younger children and kind.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Of overseeing them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
But I feel like I just have to honor your
kind of your path in and it's almost like, don't
listen to what I have to say, but watch what
I do and being you know, you know, being like
that inspiration and being you know, being that focal point
that can inspire the younger children around. Right.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
I think it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
And what's funny is I don't know if Mom necessarily
said a lot of like learn, like I feel like
you're very close. But it's weird. It's almost like she
imprints on me. You can learn a lot from the kids. Yeah,
you know, their platefulness and how they approach things sometimes
even you know, as a healer sometimes and as a
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Doing this work.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Sometimes we don't take our own advice or you know,
utilize our own tools, which which funny talking about. And
it's funny that I just feel like she talks about
you learning like in this journey that you're going on,
this next energetic cycle, a lot of inspiration and I
think a lot is gonna come from from the children,
you know, and you're gonna see that playfulness and that innocence,
and it's gonna I think that's gonna gonna somehow flow

(01:06:14):
into your work. It hasn't already, and me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Or Amy just discussed that. But the yellow roses, I
have to just you know, let you know, that was
my mother's favorite flower.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Okay, awesome, awesome joy. So that yeah, And it's interesting
because I normally don't bring those type of things in
and listen, it's very specific and it wasn't like a
redd like it was literally a yellow rose and it
was you know, and I felt the energy kind of
handed through. And it's interesting because I don't know if
that's what you have in the background, but I saw
them all around, like in my mind's eye, they're they're

(01:06:44):
like literally there's bouquets of yellow flowers around with you.
I feel like, yeah, pulling in really really cool. And
it's interesting because I also said, I don't know what August.
I don't know the specifics around August and that specific
birthday anniversary some right, but I feel like there's a
I feel like they draw my attention for a very
a very positive energetic cycle for you around that time,

(01:07:06):
or they're bringing my awareness to something around the family
significant round. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Yeah, my niece is having a baby in August.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
And okay, so mom my daughter, Yeah, awesome, awesome. So yeah,
so Mom's honoring that. It's definitely for her to imprint
on me. She's watching over the family as you know.
So so if there's I wish, you know, I wish
Grandma was here, you know, And I almost feel like
there was a name for I'm not sure what. So
what's interesting is why I feel like I'm battalion, but

(01:07:33):
I'm being drawn to Greece.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
What's the deal with that? What's is there?

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Is there? Like, are you go?

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Is there something like in Italy or a Greek connection
around the family that I would know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
We're all from Italy, My all my ancestors are from Italy.
I don't know about the Greek connection. It could be
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Yeah, it's interesting or there's So what's interesting is yeah, overwhelmed,
I'm getting an overwhelming.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Sense of like that that Italy. But what's weird is
I feel like they're bringing up Greece.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
So I don't know if there's going to be a
connection in the family, someone travels there, maybe someone will
be coming into the family that was Creek. I don't know.
But it's interesting because I'm really drawn to just say
in Greece as some kind of positive some kind of
positive energy around that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Yeah, so I'm not sure what that is. Or maybe
you'll find some old family lineage that that ties you
into that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
But it's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
It's just for some reason I have to mention that too.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
And yeah, but I think it's just loving energy supporting
you and the and the whole family and and I
think they're just honoring that path. And it's interesting because
it's really like a strong independence that I think you're
gonna instill in all the you know, in the whole
family structure. So that's a beautiful thing. Now I have
to I have to honor that and and honor you know,
honor your connection to them and them coming through you know.

(01:08:42):
So thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Thank you, thank you so much. That was beautiful, beautiful, That.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Is just it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
I think. I think tonight's episode of Two Psychics, I
think anyone out there listening, you can get a lot
of tools and kind of empower yourself to try to
start this journey, you know, wherever you are, you know.
And that's the thing I think we we tend to
think we need to be some you know, in some
heavy duty spiritual place, meditating on a wooden rock in

(01:09:12):
the woods for seven today like a Buddhist monket people.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
You know, it's like you said, it's very simple.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Get order the box, starting up with it with a
small simple tool, you know, start start the process, you know,
in a in a in a simple manner. Don't overthink it,
don't overcomplicate it and now keep starting, just starting. Yeah, yeah,
just do it right that the old Nike you saying,
just do it. Yeah, it's it's funny. It's such a
simple saying, but it's so true and so much power

(01:09:37):
is held in that. So where can people where? Where
is the best way for people to reach out? Contact
you if they're interested.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
In Always on our website respiration dot com. I'm on
social media. Instagram is race dot twenty two inspiration it
had to be broken up, and Facebook is Perspiration. You
can always email me or you know, direct message me
anywhere and just ask me about my services. Which people do.
They often have a lot of questions before they book.

(01:10:07):
I do do some live events, but I had those
on hold because of my mom's passing, so that's on
pause for now. We're working on some dates. But I
also do at home raiki parties, which I also love,
where I get families together and people give it as gifts,
like I want my family to experience this, and it
could be eight to twenty people in a room and
I bring everything we need to do a private reki event.

(01:10:29):
We bring the chairs, the blankets, the pillows, and you know,
swag bags. And we make it like a party, but
it's all about healing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
No, that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
The connected that come out families is kind of amazing.
So that's one of the things that I love to do.
But everything is on my website for inspiration dot Com
is probably the best way to get in touch with me.
And if I don't answer immediately, my assistant Gino will
We get back to people pretty pretty quickly. And whatever
we can do to help people are always there too,
because that's the goal. That's my goal.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
Tell us, can you list what your services are so
everyone knows.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
List them all?

Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
Yeah, tell me tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Well, we.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Talked about my energy talks, distant and in person KI
healing in person is raking massage, crystal divination grids, private
guide meditations if you want to do one on one
on me with me where we can do some shadow
work and inner child work. And then again there's my

(01:11:31):
grace box that you can order if you want to
self start or I can guide you through it. There's
just so many ways to just tap into energy and start.
Like we said before, just start. And I also have
an option, oh if you want me to totally pick
a crystal for you and send it to you and
just start. They are what energy you feel, and let's
discuss it. So there's just so many options on my website,

(01:11:51):
you know, and everything is made to guide people to
help themselves and affordable. I don't want anyone to have
to spend so much money to find their inner happiness.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
So what's rain drop therapy?

Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Rain drop therapy is a form of massage done with
central oils down the spine. So it's light motions, kind
of like a riaky touch, but it is a massage,
but it's oils put down the base of the spine
because a lot of our toxic energies and physical ailments
live on the spine and each oil just dissipates and

(01:12:31):
takes that toxic energy with with you. So it's a
process of eight to ten oils and then a series
of different strokes and then a light massage and then
those same oils apply to your feet and it's just
like the most amazing rejuvenation that you can experience after
it's done.

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
That sounds wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
I love raino therapy.

Speaker 5 (01:12:50):
Yeah, so wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
And it also sacral where you know, you touch the
sutures of the brain, and when you touch the suits
is the brain, it coinsigns to different parts of the body,
and you can feel people's energy and where they need
to work too. There's just so many different modalities to
incorporate and energy healing, and I'm forever learning and studying
and taking courses. It's just because I feel like there's

(01:13:14):
always something different for somebody else out there. Not everybody
just wants to come and have reiki. So that's why
we're offer the variety, and I love it. I love
learning myself.

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
So yeah, where you located.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Or right now, I do in person things at people's homes.
I don't have physical storefront. Again, that was put on
pause because of my mom. I was taking care of
my mom for six months and now three months since
you passed on the taking care of her affairs, so
that's nine months. It's like almost the whole year that
I've been a little pause. But I'm going to get
going and get that moving in the by the ends

(01:13:50):
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
But if you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Contact me and then you live locally, I'll come to
you sometimes. I have people in my home. I'm in Northfield,
New Jersey, so I'm not far from Westchester from Rocklake County,
even in New York City. So you know, there's always
a way to work out some kind of healing for
me if you contact me. Yeah, perfect local.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
You're pretty local to us.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
So if we get in a wellness if we get
a wellness event put together, we can get you to
come out to be a.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Part of it or what.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Absolutely, I absolutely love that. Thank you, Yes, that'd be great.

Speaker 5 (01:14:25):
One quick thing I want to mention to you. We
passed over. I didn't get a chance to say. You
mentioned about.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
Animals and communication and we had this animal communicator and
she shared it with us that to communicate with your animal,
if you want to telepathically give them information, what you
want to do is you want to visualize whatever it
is and send them that so they can see it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:54):
And do you know this already?

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
And I tell you, well, I've just been sorry to
study it. I actually just was speaking to the animal
and getting them to answer me with their paw and
but yes, I was reading about the visualization and no
book con continue because I want to hear her.

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
Yeah, no, it's it's just that like so it's interesting
because I was I.

Speaker 6 (01:15:14):
Always felt I have a little have aniece Elsa and
I always felt like we had an you know, unspoken communication.

Speaker 5 (01:15:22):
And then after I had we had that, we had
her on.

Speaker 6 (01:15:27):
Our show, this Animal Communicator, and she told us how
you just visualize whatever it is, you know what, whatever
whatever it is that you want to tell the puppy
dog or you know, the animal, you visualize it and
send them that information, maybe to put them at ease, maybe.

Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
If they're struggling with something, or just to communicate.

Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
And it's so interesting because I was doing that a lot,
and then Elsa again she did death.

Speaker 5 (01:15:58):
She broke her leg, she didn't meat for four days,
she wasn't.

Speaker 6 (01:16:02):
Doing well, she had all these problems, and I continue
to do that and then I don't know if she
got trained during that problem or if it was for
me communicating her telepathically.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
But now I just say things and she listens to me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
And does That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
Yeah, absolutely she understands what.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Pardon me I said. I would say, it's the latter
that you telepathically communicate with her. That's wonderful. If you
saw such a change in her.

Speaker 6 (01:16:31):
Such a change like and it's almost like she knows
ahead of time before I even say it, so like
if she's I bring her outside now, and I have
to carry up the stairs because she can't they're high stairs.

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
And now I don't want her to like re.

Speaker 6 (01:16:49):
Rate into herself or cause any more distress, so I'll
carry her. But now I take her out without a harness,
and because there's a big front lawn, so she'll do
her walking and she'll pause, she'll look at me, and
then she'll do I mean like she'll run up to
the driveway all by herself, pause to look at me.

(01:17:09):
Do you know, without me even say anything, pre.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
To telepathically tell her what to do?

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
Your dog?

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
I'm curious. Have you tried that too with your with
your puppy? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Yeah, I have two.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
I have two dogs, and these are and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
And I've had several over the years, Bernie's mountain dogs
and bull dogs. You know, I found with all of
them usually after about a six month interaction, we're usually
pretty close to being on the same energetic wavelane.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Oh that's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Yeah, I think when they're just if you get them
as puppies and they're very distracted, I think once you
get past the basics, you know, the the human animal
aspects of the connection, I think then you get to
that spiritual aspect of it, and it's a beautiful thing.
And the interesting thing, you know, we talked about grief
and going through griefe of one of the hardest grieving

(01:18:02):
periods was my first dog that I had lost, and
and that was such a process and that's really I
think what opened me to my dark knight of the
soul in that process of you know, my soul is
calling me these other directions and where am I going?

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
But it was truly in that grief and the grief
of that loss that showed me where where I needed
to go, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
So that's not that truly people are doing themselves one
of the greatest disservices if they're not sitting with that
energy and truly trying to work, you know, work through
that energy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
Yeah, like I said, we talked about I don't think
people understand or know that they should be doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Yeah, they're not talking about it or they're putting it away.
That's you know, just put a smile on your face
and move forward. But the body of remembers and the
body stores and it comes out in other ways.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
So yeah, and it's not something that's talked about.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
I think a lot of them, the preconceived notion is, ooh,
we don't want to bring that person up if someone
has passed, and you know, and and it's funny sense
because I think the more we talk about them and
who they were and what they brought to us, that's
that's keep you know, that that energetic connection stays. And
I think that's what people don't realize is you know,

(01:19:13):
it's the death of the physical body. You know, that's
all it is, just transfers over.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
And yeah, people do the same thing like you said, oh,
I don't want to bring it up to remind you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Her.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
I'm like, how do you You're not them?

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
That's gonna I think about her every minute of every
day anyway, talk about her. Like you said, we're changing
that energy and those stories. To me, that's amazing and wonderful.
I love.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
And it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
I think people, you know, are having these conversations, and
there's people like us having shows like this, having these discussions,
and and that's what needs to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:19:52):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
The preconceived notions around this and the taboos, you know,
they're they're not taboo, you know, And we have to
talk about that stuff. We have to help people learn
how to navigate this and you know, and these are
the conversations that are going to help help people get there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
I think absolutely agree.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Yeah, we are so.

Speaker 6 (01:20:12):
Grateful that you came and joined us today, and we
hope another time you will and if we do a
live event, we'd love to have you join us.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
And you have so much to offer. So again, is
there anything you'd like to tell our audience before you go?

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
I think I said just about everything I and I
have incided to be a backer, inspiration and about me.
But yeah, I mean, just reach out because sometimes just
reach out saying hey, I want to chat it turns
into a whole other avenue of whether it's a modality
that I'm going to or a service that I'm going
to recommend, or just a conversation. Hi. People will call

(01:20:53):
me and say, hey, I'm not sure if I want
to do something, what do you think? And I'm on
the phone for them for three hours and we just
talked and they're like, Okay, that made me feel comfortable.
So I just tell people reach out to Grace. I'm
always here to get you through whatever you need to
get through, because I know That's what always was comforting
to me in my life is somebody was there on
the other end to say, hey, everything's going to be okay.

(01:21:13):
I got you, I'll help you. So that's probably the
best thing that I can say about Gracepiration and myself.
Just reach out. I'll help you the best I can.
My heart is always there to help people. Ever since
I'm a little girl, I've always wanted to help other people.
So that's what i'd say. Yeah, thank you, absolutely, thank
you for joining us.

Speaker 5 (01:21:32):
So everyone out there, reach out to Grace and.

Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
We'll put her link on the on the description and
this is going to be on different podcasts and different
video platforms.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Okay, Graspiration dot Com, get the Grace Box.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Spiritual Journey. That's an awesome thing. So thank you so
much for being here with two side gigs.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
We're absolutely going to have you back and we'll all
catch up on We're the next stages of our journeys
have brought us.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
I would love it. Thank you guys so much. Thank
you my honor to connect with you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:22:14):
Thank you so much. I'll send your message after the show.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Okay, Okay, thank you, Mary, good night, Can I right?

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Night, Grace, Thank you so much for being here. Thank you, right,
take care of everyone.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
Wait, don't go yet, because I gotta talk to ye.
I don't know how to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
You're gonna have to just connect yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:22:36):
I never know how to do this part.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
Bye, I'm leading the meeting. Good night, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Bye.

Speaker 6 (01:22:42):
Okay, So before we go, I just want to remind
everybody what we have upcoming. So tonight here we did
a little reading without even trying, which just came through. Now,
if you want to reach Michael, I have the Spirits
dot com. He's down the Jersey. Sure, maybe we'll be
doing some coming upcoming events.

Speaker 5 (01:23:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:23:03):
We have to talk about it, Michael. I did get
a message and I sent you. I told you that
I heard from David Eller today and he asked us.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Yeah, I'm going on the expedition for us to.

Speaker 5 (01:23:17):
Go on an expedition in New Jersey. So I looked
it up because apparently there's bigfoot sightings and it is.
I'll tell you what did I somehow.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
I say maybe tracking through the pine. Barry's right, isn't
it somewhere up here in the East Coast area?

Speaker 5 (01:23:34):
Somewhere it's by you. It's in New Jersey. Oh yeah, okay,
so and he wants to film it, so it's gonna
be very interesting. Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:23:42):
So it's in He wants to investigate the Jersey Pine Barrens,
which is very large and it's deep woods. And his
idea of his idea of going out and doing an
expert addition is literally you bring a tent and you're

(01:24:03):
in the middle of nowhere like you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Oh my god, would be Bigfoot versus the Jersey Devil.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:24:10):
Yeah, he wants to he wants to go and we
can record it and cool.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
It could be what you in you in for that,
I'm in you know, Hey, I was a boy scout.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
I could camp okay and then build the firewood out matches.
I'm good.

Speaker 5 (01:24:26):
There was also another event we'll talk about. I don't know.
It's down the Jersey Shore in May. I don't know
if you're available. They sent you the information and we'll
talk about that would be a.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
Lot a couple of things coming up, some cool stuff.
So yeah, we will keep everyone notified. And again you
can go to Ironspirits dot com, my website, or iron
Spirits with Michael Ledley my Facebook page.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Anything we're doing is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Going to be on there, and you can also stay
tuned for Mary Amy's newly almost going to be released book.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Hopefully we're gonna see that people in the next We're
going to see.

Speaker 5 (01:25:01):
It before the end of the year or what oh,
I would think by the end of the summer.

Speaker 6 (01:25:05):
Okay, So next week we have April third, we have
Grethel c. Barrajo and she's light language. She is unbelievable
and coded oh what's it called. It's it's online she
has she has thousands of viewers for this and coded frequency.

(01:25:26):
Then we have April tenth, we have the the Vianna.
She's the author of The Dragon Spirit Guy and she's
a crystal expert. Then in April we have Shana Blackmar
and I think we might have psychic Evelyn from Scotland.
I think because let's see, uh yeah, she wants to

(01:25:48):
do it, so we have.

Speaker 5 (01:25:49):
Her coming on. And then hopefully I'll get Mujin Choi
who's a magnetic chocolate healer in the spring, you know,
Ji maybe. So that's what we have tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
You can tell me that's exciting stuff coming up for you.

Speaker 6 (01:26:01):
Miriamiofficial dot com and you can find Michael. I have
the Spirits dot com and you can go to our
Facebook page and like it. And it's the new name
is two Psychics Podcast. I apologize for losing my voice tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
It's all good. You made it through another episode of
Two Psychics.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Thank you everyone, and we will see you next week.

Speaker 5 (01:26:26):
Everyone be great, be well, Thank you, bye, good night.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
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