June 11, 2025 • 25 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's people that get walking cages in the woods to
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starve to death.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Almost We have.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
More crime than New York City and LA combined.
Speaker 4 (00:06):
You better stick with someone native around there because they
will take you out.
Speaker 5 (00:09):
He actually stabbed somebody in the neck with an ice
pick there. They ended up finding six bodies.
Speaker 6 (00:13):
Out there inste It's over, dude, What do you mean
it's over?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You kill me, you sir, kill me.
Speaker 7 (00:26):
This is morter Mounted, a remote area of California where
hundreds of people disappear without a trace every year.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Before California legalized weed in twenty sixteen, countless illegal weed
farms went wild, and Humboldt, Trinity and Mendocino County in
this area, known as the Emerald Triangle, the largest cannabis
producing region in America that supplied an estimated sixty percent
of the country's pot before weed was legalized. But after legalization,
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most weed farmers were annihilated as legalization brought new taxes,
hermits compliance, and arch corporate competitors that achieved economies of scale,
ultimately increasing the supply of weed, decreasing its value, and
destroying the black market economy. The people of the Emerald
Triangle relied upon. Oh, almost ten years since California legalized weed.
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What happened to the towns, trimmigrants and farmers that lived
in these mountains. I met up with former trimmigrants and
citizen journalists Darren in the small town of Willitts explore
the remains of the Emerald Triangle while we worked our
way all the way up to Murder Mountain.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
When I first worked on that farm, staying at a
local hotel here in Willitts, one of the maids, she
barely spoke any English, and she saw trimigrant signs, and
she actually put us into contact with another gentleman named Pose,
who drove us up to this one sketch house in
the middle of the mountains. And then we got into
a second car and they blindfolded us and drove us here.
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Even though they blindfolded us, I have photographic memory, so
as soon as I saw the local hills and stuff,
I knew I was on hawk terrorists not too far
away from all the other parts farms I used to
work on, a really dangerous industry, to say the least.
You know, sometimes the pot farms up here and feuds
between them make the feud between Timmy Turner and the
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Dinklebergs look like Sunday in church, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So we made our way over to the nearby trailer
park to get some wisdom from Darren's old friend. Darren,
how do you know this guy?
Speaker 9 (02:22):
I used to hitchhike back and forth between San Francisco
and Seattle, and this guy was pretty much here all
the time.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I looks like his trailer right there.
Speaker 9 (02:30):
His mom might be home.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Which luck, you guys are going in. Got this, bro?
You got this? Hey, brother, this is Darren.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I'm looking for the other guy I used to live here.
Johnny died.
Speaker 10 (02:43):
Three years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
They shot him or what he had, brain tumor.
Speaker 10 (02:47):
Some assholes took him over in.
Speaker 11 (02:49):
The mouse and because he was smoking now and they
said that he had a seizure in the bathtub.
Speaker 8 (02:56):
Dude, So Johnny died, But gentleman said he's going to
maybe do an interview.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I'm here with Thomas Ortega.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So why do so many people go missing out here?
Speaker 11 (03:06):
Say they need a thousand people to trim, they'd send
out thirty forty thousand flyers here at Safeway at the
end of the summer, you hardly see anybody that speaks
English because the trim agains coming to town, and everybody
speaks French and Russian and all these different languages. Oh,
they're everywhere from Europe. They come here in hopes of
getting trim jobs. They can't get any, so they're stuck
in Garberville. And there's hundreds and hundreds of little tiny
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roads that disappear out into the hills and they go for.
Speaker 10 (03:32):
Miles and miles and miles and miles.
Speaker 11 (03:34):
Some people are really bad because's out there cooking and
it gets real dodgy, got so you don't go roam around.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Why did you notice the cartel presence out here?
Speaker 11 (03:43):
When you start seeing signs along the roads that everywhere
about buying houses for cash. People that buy homes and
they'll buy cash and they set them up for grow houses.
I don't know if the cartel or I don't know
if the car tell even makes I don't know what
they do around here, the town there between point leg It.
You'll start seeing signs on stores of people that are
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missing and stuff. You know, they're mainly in Garboville.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
We're thinking about going to Cavello today.
Speaker 10 (04:08):
Any advice, Oh my god, Colo is bad.
Speaker 11 (04:11):
Covilo just been careful.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
In Covid.
Speaker 11 (04:13):
It's all reservations, the stake put at one time. They
must put like six or seven different tribes in Cobal
And then I'm sitting they fight.
Speaker 12 (04:20):
It all out.
Speaker 11 (04:21):
So they fight between themselves. They're all gang members and
they all fight, and they kill people and put them
in trunks and set them on fire, and they shoot people.
And it's a bad, bad road, and it's a bad
area to stop, and it's a bad area and going.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
In and it's the wild West out of here.
Speaker 9 (04:35):
Huh.
Speaker 11 (04:35):
They had a road saying you could go to Fort Bragg,
but once you get out so many miles, the roads
turn to numbers and they don't.
Speaker 10 (04:42):
There's no more roads. And if you don't know where
you're going.
Speaker 11 (04:45):
Out there, you end up in some sketchy, sketchy, weird places.
I want to go still head fishing out there in
the Old River, but I won't drive out there.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
All right, brother you, I'm nervous now, but appreciate the insil.
So we begin our track up to Garboville real quick.
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Back to Murder Mountain, but on our way out, I
noticed this mysterious Masonic temple. Masonic you swear oh hell no.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
This is where the trimmer grants come.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Come on smoking there, sucking up there, don't Yeah, they're
they're up there. They're squatting. You see the lights Actually
is not even real.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Holy sh there's people up there right.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's a little creepy. Honestly, I'm getting a little creeped
out here.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
So this is where trimmer grant's passing through. People coming
down from the melons.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
They stay here. Do you guys know who's in here?
We saw some homies in there with the lights on,
and we're like yo, and we waved and then they
turned the light off and closed the window. Had ever
hear We think they're chill. They may be passive, they
may be violent.
Speaker 10 (06:42):
I've never seen people there though.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
No, Darren's going up there right now, Darren be carefully
terrible idea. What are your thoughts on the weed industry
out here? I mean, it was big before. It's kind
of dead now.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, you don't really hear much about that growing up.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It was a it was a big thing. There's a
lot of stories to hear up and I want to
learn more about the dark side of the cannabis industry.
Do you have any thoughts.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Dark side of the cannabis Inature Street.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Go to COVID. If you go up to Cold if
you really want to like what is it it's called
that's where I hear the most stories.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Okay, so you know you go to Colo, you better
stick with someone native around there because they will take
you out. When I lived up there, there were wars.
They were last time I was up there, and you
weren't cops. I had to threaten someone's life with to
a cop because they told me they'd show up the
next day for a situation that happened with my kids.
So I said, if you don't, he'll be dead and
you'll be here in two hours. Anyway, so they showed up.
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It takes them two hours to get there in a
situation where they know someone's going to die. When they
told me, oh, well wait till tomorrow to do something
about that, I said, you either come now or you're
going to be coming in two hours because this hatchet
my hand's going to be taking off his head.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Hear a lot of people are getting killed out there.
Speaker 13 (07:48):
It was where there's like every month through femlan dying
if not more than killing them. Why it's population control.
The covilions. They like the money. They really not love
on the lost of their family members. I mean, it's
like the Indians are getting treated really bad again.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Tell us what we should look out for.
Speaker 13 (08:07):
Definitely the cops. If you don't have your back on them,
then the town won't trust you. Maybe if you had
a gun, hand it to them. Give me the gun, Yeah,
because I don will shoot you though enjoying the gun.
That's what they told me when I got there.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Give us your gun.
Speaker 13 (08:20):
If you go, still us a gun and you can
stay here with your brother in eighth grade. You were
in the eighth grade. Yeah, they're gonna kill me, kill
my brother.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
If you have you been to Covila. No, okay, have
you heard of murder mountains?
Speaker 10 (08:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
What do you know about it?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Not much to talk about.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
What do you mean there's not much talk about you
don't know much about it, or people kind of zip
their mouths when they think about it. When we hear
why I talk about it? What do you mean exactly
what I said? Cook covid look Covalo. That's what I
keep hearing. And it sounds like, Darren, we're gonna have
to head up there find a native contact and see
what's actually going down. But first we're headed to Alder Point.
And remember has it lots of illegal weed farms out there?
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I think is that accurate?
Speaker 9 (08:59):
I would say the best weed on earth is grown
on Murder Mountain.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
You know.
Speaker 14 (09:03):
I've been over on a couple of farms over there
and stuff. There's some people that you know are bad people,
you know, and they're doing some trafficking up there and everything.
There's a lot of wholesalers coming from the East Coast,
you know, because you know, we got the best weed,
you know, better than Colorado organic.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
We're headed into the belly of the beasts, if you will.
We're going to Murder Mountain. Do you have any advice
for us? So was to not end up on the news?
Speaker 14 (09:25):
Okay, So a lot of people are going to have
guns and everything.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
You know, they're going to have all types of.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Guns, you know. Before we make it to Alder Point
aka Murder Mountain, we first have to spend the night
in Garberville.
Speaker 9 (09:36):
My friends and I we used to camp down here
at the Ill River. They found a woman's body burnt
alive in a refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Used to be a lucrative thing.
Speaker 9 (09:44):
You'd get paid per pound you trimmed up, they'd give
you a couple hundred bucks, and now it's you're lucky
to make it out with your life at the end
of the season.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And then I stumbled upon these weed farmers walking around
the parking lot. Agreed to an interview before I went
to bed. Where are we at right.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Now, Garberville, California, Emial Triangle.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
What do you do out here?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Pretty much?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
A little bit of everything, from growing the beautiful marijuana
plants to getting.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Ready for dales. So you're not a trimigrant, right, not
a trimmer?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, I'd rather grow it and hire the trimmers than yeah,
where the farmers are?
Speaker 15 (10:16):
You're farmers?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So how long you've been growing a weed out here?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Twenty two, twenty three years?
Speaker 10 (10:19):
Now?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
How has the weed industry changed since the legalization of weed?
Speaker 15 (10:24):
There's not really no money to be made anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
There's nothing really to do with pot anymore unless you're
selling to the clubs.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's not even worth to water your plants.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
They're asking, like you youking this like twenty five dollars
a pound, and before it was like a two thousand.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Tell me about your role hiring the trimmigrants and where
these trimmigrants are from.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I try to stay away from anybody new who keeps
everybody safe. If they have experience, then you know, take
them up someplace, you know, to work, of course, and
test them out there, and then if they're good enough,
we're you can do a lot not playing and you know,
chipping off to another boss. Just try to keep the
circle going.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So here's some of these trimmer grants around, like indentured
servitude type situations. Is that is that common? Put this?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
There are some scary, scary things up here, Like it's
not all just a peace love and here grease.
Speaker 13 (11:05):
You know, you gotta watch yourself if you're working up
the hills.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It sounds like after the weed was legalized, this whole
town's economy collapsed in on itself. The town is dead.
They're suffering right now.
Speaker 9 (11:15):
They are definitely pinching pennies and when they find them,
they're rubbing them and they're trying to make something out
of nothing. It's a dying industry.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Now. Today is an ominous, foggy morning. You can still
see the moon out there. Have a rather question for it.
I wonder if you could tell me a little bit
of history through about the town. Would you be down
to tell me a little bit about the before and
after since the weed legalization can't? Okay, so too like sensitive.
Speaker 16 (11:40):
Before there was tons of businesses and everybody could afford
stuff to go on like vacations. Now since legalization, as
you can see, there's a bunch of businesses closed down,
people are moving out. It's definitely gone downhill.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
What was the community supported by like the weed business.
Speaker 16 (12:00):
Yes, everybody grew weed, had their grows and stuff. And
then legalization everybody had to get permit all the different
regulations and stuff, and so now everybody is like getting
rid of all that.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You don't west Ford brother, you know anything about Murder Mountain.
I'm a joke. We're trying to figure it. Most of
it's like myth or both, you know what I mean.
I'm an a still Okay, go back home. What's the
situation with people going missing out here?
Speaker 16 (12:32):
A lot of it was to do with the weed,
people getting you know, like ripped off or sure getting
worked and then oh, well we're not going to pay you,
you'll just go missing.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Like we're talking workers on some of these farms, yes.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
And other things.
Speaker 16 (12:46):
Because there's other you know, other drugs and whatever whatnot.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But oh hell no, all right, I'm telling you it's
over dude. What do you mean it's over kill? Me?
What you talking about?
Speaker 16 (13:00):
That?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It's a skim. That's what we're trying to learn though.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
We're trying to figure out it's up there.
Speaker 16 (13:05):
So yeah, of some young kid and then the dude
who owned the dog, because the kid was like, I'll
kill your dog, you know, and he ended up getting
shot killed kid. But even like right here on the bluffs,
people have gotten thrown.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Off, jumped off damn. Okay, yeah, right over.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
The guard rail until the river.
Speaker 16 (13:27):
Because there's been multiple people to where everybody has to
do their own like vigilante research and justice and trying
to find their family members. And there's been a bunch
of people that I have known that are gone.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
All right, brother, where you gotta be on YouTube or
fucking facebluff hopefully Facebook, Oh scam book. Okay, I'll see
you there. Hell yeah, brother, And I asked your thoughts
on uh Garberville, how about uh I asked you to
get off of my property. It's a private property. You
need to leave now for your trespass.
Speaker 12 (13:59):
So this is the garbage, real laundry mad Growing up
Hitchhiden across the country, it would rain NonStop every day,
all day, all night.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Our clothes would be soaked, we'd be wet.
Speaker 12 (14:07):
This is one of the few places you can go
get your clothes dried up here.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
We were talking to a gentleman out there about Murder
Mountain and he got pretty aggressive immediately. What's going on
with that?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It's not over yet.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I thought it was over Murder Mountain. That's what we're
trying to figure out. How much of it's fiction versus fact.
Speaker 17 (14:24):
Yeah, I don't call it murder Mountain.
Speaker 18 (14:26):
I call it adult point.
Speaker 12 (14:28):
Have you heard of anybody going missing lately or anybody's
being found along the river? Have you seen big Foot?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
My chants yes, all three.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Actually tell us a little more.
Speaker 17 (14:39):
My main thing is that there's a bunch of good
animal carcasses as far as humans. You know, we always
find out what fans I mean, we keep track of
her people. And then it just seemed to progress every
timing go on the supermarket.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
It seems like there's fresh meat, you know, and and
then that streaks you out, like the humans also there,
you know, like the meat was a little sweet, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
You know, I've traveled the world.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I've met thousands of people from all walks.
Speaker 12 (15:12):
Of life, from every corner of the globe, and I
can't shake the feeling that that woman was a cannibal
back there.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You know, it's all right, cut yo, We're gonna head
up to Redway and then the Elder Point. We were
getting closer and closer into the heart of Murder Mountain.
As we drove higher into the foggy mountains and closer
to Alder Point, I spotted these people camping in the
woods off the side of the road and wondered if
they knew anything. We're gonna walk up this mountain right
now and just say what's up, Keep it chill, just
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be friendly. Yo'll take your presents in case we see
a few camps up here. Hey, Hey, everybody, uh up here.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I'll be going morning. Brother, I'm a friend approach.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I have no guying Hi, sir, how are you? We're
trying to talk to some some farmers out here and
some trimmers. Do you work out here? Is that after
like the legalization a weed?
Speaker 10 (16:04):
Yeah, pretty much. You know, the black market.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
We hear a lot about a ton of missing people
up here in these mountains. Is that still a problem.
Speaker 12 (16:12):
I don't know about people coming up missing too much,
mar and definitely still some people missing back there.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
I actually know a lot about the topic that you're
okay talking about here.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I want to know everything I can.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Well, I grew up out here, and you know, back
quite a few years ago now, my brother actually he
froze out in these hills. It's really interesting the way
it happened, because there was a dispute over water with
my neighbors, because they were like they wanted the water
for their weed plants and for cattle for whatever reasons.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
You know, a lot part of it was for the land.
My brother he.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Froze out on these hills and there's even some bruises.
His fingernails were pulled back and that kind of stuff,
and it's just like suspicious, and so I've always kind
of had, you know, something going on about that. But
it's happened so many years ago, and if we couldn't
done anything, and then the law enforcement didn't really make
a large effort for it. They had dogs re tree him.
That's well in the first time. So I was really
impacted by this for a long time. I actually grew
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up over in Bell Springs or worked over in Bell
Springs up.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
In the mountain.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Actually heard rumors that some of this started happening way
back in the eighties. There was actually some people that
were murdering people up in the hills. But they're actually
cannibals too, and they were way up there and there
was actually some cannibalism going on.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
We're headed up to Alder Point. We're trying to learn
more about some of the dark underbelly these mountains.
Speaker 19 (17:22):
What should we know that you're going to be in
and out of cell phone range and that people here
don't really warm up to strangers. Yeah, I'm I'm a
bit concern that you're going up Older Point.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 19 (17:36):
If you watch the series Murder Mountain, there's a lot
of missing persons up here, get asked to work and
they never get paid, and they demand payment and then
they just get shot and killed and buried in someone's backyard.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
What's the craziest thing you guys heard about here? That Ryan? Yeah,
I mean, Jesus, tell me about Ryan Tanner, the one
one friend of ours for sure, serial killer out here?
What supposed Yeah, Jesus.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
I had another neighbor about four or five years ago,
six years ago, he actually stabbed somebody in the neck
with an ice pick. When he did that, and he
stabbed that guy in the neck, the police went out
and they raided his property and they brought cadaver dogs
out there.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
They ended up finding six bodies out there.
Speaker 19 (18:21):
They think that they can come here and make like
a few thousand dollars. There's a lot of promises. They're
living in their cars, they're living in tents, and then
when it comes time to get paid, they don't get paid.
And I've heard stories they just gets shoved off the hill.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Are there other drugs in the mountains besides canvabas?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
It's people getting carried away because they get this money
and then they start using drugs and then their brains
stopped working in and so then they turn violin or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Do you think the police do a good job at
maintaining control of the situations out here or they kind
of hands off.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That's part of what the problem is.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
They're all rookies, they're all being trained up here, and
so this is just a training ground for most people.
There's a few officers to do a good But besides
that there's just too much area for them to cover.
If you call the police, it's gonna take them at
least an hour to get to your house, depending on
where you live.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
May I approach?
Speaker 10 (19:09):
I'm a friend. I come bearing gifts.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I mean, no trouble.
Speaker 19 (19:13):
It's gonna get killed.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, A cute little dog there, Brian. My name is Tyler.
Thanks for coming out here. Brother. How many years you
been out here? Fifteen? Do you come up here to
work in the weed industry?
Speaker 9 (19:24):
Glad you can?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
You come down here for any of that?
Speaker 19 (19:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
How was life up here? We've heard a lot of
legends and myths and craziness.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
There's some I used to live way about on the
Okay they call it the wishous Kitchen. And there's I've
seen you seen called the Wind to Go.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You've seen the Wind to Go? Can you tell me
how it looked. I've heard of the Wind to Go.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
It's really huge. There, Duri school on his face.
Speaker 13 (19:50):
You know it was really long.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That sounds scary.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
I noticed along the drive up here there were a
lot of sasquatch bigfoot statues.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Have you ever seen bigfoot?
Speaker 6 (19:59):
I have never seen bigfoot? Okay, one time I got
chased up the hill down over there by a I
can't say I saw it, but it was just like
an outline, you know what I mean. It was like
silhouette moving and the dogs we're all barking, going crazy.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Could have been a person sharply, but there was a
vehicle and we'd actually drove by this vehicle. It was
probably like five or six years ago, and this vehicle
was on fire.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
There was actually two people inside of it.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
The people were burned in the car, they were covered
in gasoline. They I'm pretty sure they caught the person
that did it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
So when weed was legalized, people lost a ton of
money out here. The communities were destroyed over night or way.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
When I first came here, this place was it was
like the suggestic and it was just like, yes, it
was amazing. I mean, oh, so many people here. I
mean that could go to the brass rail and like
party every night.
Speaker 10 (20:43):
You know, and down by the river there'd be like
little festivals.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Yes, it was beautiful here, amazing. I saw the aftermask.
I've seen the aftermass was like quite a few of
my friends, just like I saw my friend huge hanging.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Industry hanging in the tree. Yeah, you had some form
of retribution out here.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Nice? Uh, my friends hurry flat and face down on
the river. You know, Jordan Rose tossed over a quiff.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Oh, I mean I could go on and on and on.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
My friend Dave was found next day, you know, on
a trailer.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Right.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
If you guys went up there with your camera and
stuff and he had to ask people if you're their mind,
you know, if you're filmed, I wouldn't go very far.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I should be careful both there. Okay, Brian, thank you
so much. Brother, Be safe out here. After nearly everyone
we spoke to express concern for our safety, we had
ascended to the legendary murder mountain Alder Points.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Real quick, I'd be like going down the road.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
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(22:05):
Here's the USPS looks to be closed. It looked like
a complete ghost town, with the only store in site closed,
the postal office vacant, and abandoned cars on the side
of the roads. But I was surprised to see this
dude across the street. We're traveling across the Emerald, but
tangle out here, kind of doctors.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
I've been here for thirty fucking years.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Tell me how this place has changed before and after
legalizational weed.
Speaker 18 (22:28):
We lost the store.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
No more store. It used to be right there.
Speaker 18 (22:32):
That store was opened since I was twelve years old.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
There have been open.
Speaker 18 (22:35):
Since nineteen ten. And it's it's closed. There's no gas,
there's no nothing. Dude, this place is done. The legalization
of marijuana killed this country.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
All that. What's real? What's fake?
Speaker 18 (22:50):
There's nothing real about Let me.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Take five bullars.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Okay, Yeah, it's a real nice place.
Speaker 15 (22:55):
It's nothing like it used to be. With the legalization
of wheed, it just kind of dried up around here.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
What was this place like during that boat I've lived
in here twelve years now, Okay, But.
Speaker 15 (23:08):
Everyone had, you know, pockets full of cash, and people
were having fun with it, and you know, small businesses
were booming.
Speaker 19 (23:13):
Everyone was doing really good.
Speaker 15 (23:15):
It was just very lively, a lot of good people
running around, but also too On top of that, it
brought a lot of bad company. Now, a lot of
people that were just here for the money, didn't care
about the environment, you know, left a lot of big messes.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Mainly a lot of people had to get nine to
five jobs.
Speaker 15 (23:28):
We just wasn't worth anything anymore. So, yeah, places like
this are pretty much ghost towns.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, unsurprisingly, this place was a complete ghost town. While
the few residents I could find shared me the nostalgic
stories of its glory days, they all still seem to
enjoy the peace and isolation they still had, but not
everyone was happy to see outsiders with cameras poked their
heads around. You, sir.
Speaker 15 (23:58):
The only reason that there's probably in a lot of
you know, killings and stuff out this way is because,
like I said earlier, the weed money brought in, you know,
just people coming to look to make a big buck,
you know, a fast buck or whatever. Those are the
people that typically caused the problems.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Was he trying to his homeboy, just being theatrical over there.
Speaker 18 (24:18):
No, he was just being a dick because he didn't
like me talking. And nobody's going about in this.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
Place during the height of the cannabis industry. How much
were some of these farmers bringing in per year millions
of dollars?
Speaker 18 (24:30):
I worked multiple operations, there were multi million dollar operations.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
What was it like working for some of those guys?
Speaker 12 (24:36):
Sucked?
Speaker 18 (24:37):
There were little dickheads. Dude, they were tighter and fuck dude,
and they barely give you a fun rebuilt get me
a motorcycles.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
You go to work the next day.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Can the people come visit or stay of Helloway?
Speaker 15 (24:48):
We like our peace quiet, But no, you guysn't were
welcome to come.
Speaker 10 (24:52):
No, it's like gustache.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Well let's see this light. God damn. So this is
the stuff they sell at cookies?
Speaker 18 (24:58):
Oh no, no, no, we have six plants here.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
The aaron is gonna do a little tastests here.
Speaker 18 (25:04):
No chemicals, no poison.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 9 (25:08):
This is one of the best wed I've ever smoked.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
You'd like to spell any myths about this place we
talked to?
Speaker 10 (25:14):
Not on YouTube. I don't want to know videos.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Okay, for sure?
Speaker 10 (25:17):
Do you close the neighborhood that have any outsiders? Man,
we don't want this on YouTube. I'll come to all
the point you scumbacks, gotting all the point or whatever,
all your losers or whatever. We don't want that.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I mean, I hear you.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
You guys don't all the point. We go somewhere else. Man.
We don't want to be nationally known or world known man,
There's people that get walking cages in the woods to
(00:02):
starve to death.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Almost We have.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
More crime than New York City and LA combined.
Speaker 4 (00:06):
You better stick with someone native around there because they
will take you out.
Speaker 5 (00:09):
He actually stabbed somebody in the neck with an ice
pick there. They ended up finding six bodies.
Speaker 6 (00:13):
Out there inste It's over, dude, What do you mean
it's over?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You kill me, you sir, kill me.
Speaker 7 (00:26):
This is morter Mounted, a remote area of California where
hundreds of people disappear without a trace every year.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Before California legalized weed in twenty sixteen, countless illegal weed
farms went wild, and Humboldt, Trinity and Mendocino County in
this area, known as the Emerald Triangle, the largest cannabis
producing region in America that supplied an estimated sixty percent
of the country's pot before weed was legalized. But after legalization,
(00:54):
most weed farmers were annihilated as legalization brought new taxes,
hermits compliance, and arch corporate competitors that achieved economies of scale,
ultimately increasing the supply of weed, decreasing its value, and
destroying the black market economy. The people of the Emerald
Triangle relied upon. Oh, almost ten years since California legalized weed.
(01:15):
What happened to the towns, trimmigrants and farmers that lived
in these mountains. I met up with former trimmigrants and
citizen journalists Darren in the small town of Willitts explore
the remains of the Emerald Triangle while we worked our
way all the way up to Murder Mountain.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
When I first worked on that farm, staying at a
local hotel here in Willitts, one of the maids, she
barely spoke any English, and she saw trimigrant signs, and
she actually put us into contact with another gentleman named Pose,
who drove us up to this one sketch house in
the middle of the mountains. And then we got into
a second car and they blindfolded us and drove us here.
(01:50):
Even though they blindfolded us, I have photographic memory, so
as soon as I saw the local hills and stuff,
I knew I was on hawk terrorists not too far
away from all the other parts farms I used to
work on, a really dangerous industry, to say the least.
You know, sometimes the pot farms up here and feuds
between them make the feud between Timmy Turner and the
(02:11):
Dinklebergs look like Sunday in church, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So we made our way over to the nearby trailer
park to get some wisdom from Darren's old friend. Darren,
how do you know this guy?
Speaker 9 (02:22):
I used to hitchhike back and forth between San Francisco
and Seattle, and this guy was pretty much here all
the time.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I looks like his trailer right there.
Speaker 9 (02:30):
His mom might be home.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Which luck, you guys are going in. Got this, bro?
You got this? Hey, brother, this is Darren.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I'm looking for the other guy I used to live here.
Johnny died.
Speaker 10 (02:43):
Three years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
They shot him or what he had, brain tumor.
Speaker 10 (02:47):
Some assholes took him over in.
Speaker 11 (02:49):
The mouse and because he was smoking now and they
said that he had a seizure in the bathtub.
Speaker 8 (02:56):
Dude, So Johnny died, But gentleman said he's going to
maybe do an interview.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I'm here with Thomas Ortega.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So why do so many people go missing out here?
Speaker 11 (03:06):
Say they need a thousand people to trim, they'd send
out thirty forty thousand flyers here at Safeway at the
end of the summer, you hardly see anybody that speaks
English because the trim agains coming to town, and everybody
speaks French and Russian and all these different languages. Oh,
they're everywhere from Europe. They come here in hopes of
getting trim jobs. They can't get any, so they're stuck
in Garberville. And there's hundreds and hundreds of little tiny
(03:29):
roads that disappear out into the hills and they go for.
Speaker 10 (03:32):
Miles and miles and miles and miles.
Speaker 11 (03:34):
Some people are really bad because's out there cooking and
it gets real dodgy, got so you don't go roam around.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Why did you notice the cartel presence out here?
Speaker 11 (03:43):
When you start seeing signs along the roads that everywhere
about buying houses for cash. People that buy homes and
they'll buy cash and they set them up for grow houses.
I don't know if the cartel or I don't know
if the car tell even makes I don't know what
they do around here, the town there between point leg It.
You'll start seeing signs on stores of people that are
(04:03):
missing and stuff. You know, they're mainly in Garboville.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
We're thinking about going to Cavello today.
Speaker 10 (04:08):
Any advice, Oh my god, Colo is bad.
Speaker 11 (04:11):
Covilo just been careful.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
In Covid.
Speaker 11 (04:13):
It's all reservations, the stake put at one time. They
must put like six or seven different tribes in Cobal
And then I'm sitting they fight.
Speaker 12 (04:20):
It all out.
Speaker 11 (04:21):
So they fight between themselves. They're all gang members and
they all fight, and they kill people and put them
in trunks and set them on fire, and they shoot people.
And it's a bad, bad road, and it's a bad
area to stop, and it's a bad area and going.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
In and it's the wild West out of here.
Speaker 9 (04:35):
Huh.
Speaker 11 (04:35):
They had a road saying you could go to Fort Bragg,
but once you get out so many miles, the roads
turn to numbers and they don't.
Speaker 10 (04:42):
There's no more roads. And if you don't know where
you're going.
Speaker 11 (04:45):
Out there, you end up in some sketchy, sketchy, weird places.
I want to go still head fishing out there in
the Old River, but I won't drive out there.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
All right, brother you, I'm nervous now, but appreciate the insil.
So we begin our track up to Garboville real quick.
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Back to Murder Mountain, but on our way out, I
noticed this mysterious Masonic temple. Masonic you swear oh hell no.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
This is where the trimmer grants come.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Come on smoking there, sucking up there, don't Yeah, they're
they're up there. They're squatting. You see the lights Actually
is not even real.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Holy sh there's people up there right.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's a little creepy. Honestly, I'm getting a little creeped
out here.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
So this is where trimmer grant's passing through. People coming
down from the melons.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
They stay here. Do you guys know who's in here?
We saw some homies in there with the lights on,
and we're like yo, and we waved and then they
turned the light off and closed the window. Had ever
hear We think they're chill. They may be passive, they
may be violent.
Speaker 10 (06:42):
I've never seen people there though.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
No, Darren's going up there right now, Darren be carefully
terrible idea. What are your thoughts on the weed industry
out here? I mean, it was big before. It's kind
of dead now.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, you don't really hear much about that growing up.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It was a it was a big thing. There's a
lot of stories to hear up and I want to
learn more about the dark side of the cannabis industry.
Do you have any thoughts.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Dark side of the cannabis Inature Street.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Go to COVID. If you go up to Cold if
you really want to like what is it it's called
that's where I hear the most stories.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Okay, so you know you go to Colo, you better
stick with someone native around there because they will take
you out. When I lived up there, there were wars.
They were last time I was up there, and you
weren't cops. I had to threaten someone's life with to
a cop because they told me they'd show up the
next day for a situation that happened with my kids.
So I said, if you don't, he'll be dead and
you'll be here in two hours. Anyway, so they showed up.
(07:33):
It takes them two hours to get there in a
situation where they know someone's going to die. When they
told me, oh, well wait till tomorrow to do something
about that, I said, you either come now or you're
going to be coming in two hours because this hatchet
my hand's going to be taking off his head.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Hear a lot of people are getting killed out there.
Speaker 13 (07:48):
It was where there's like every month through femlan dying
if not more than killing them. Why it's population control.
The covilions. They like the money. They really not love
on the lost of their family members. I mean, it's
like the Indians are getting treated really bad again.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Tell us what we should look out for.
Speaker 13 (08:07):
Definitely the cops. If you don't have your back on them,
then the town won't trust you. Maybe if you had
a gun, hand it to them. Give me the gun, Yeah,
because I don will shoot you though enjoying the gun.
That's what they told me when I got there.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Give us your gun.
Speaker 13 (08:20):
If you go, still us a gun and you can
stay here with your brother in eighth grade. You were
in the eighth grade. Yeah, they're gonna kill me, kill
my brother.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
If you have you been to Covila. No, okay, have
you heard of murder mountains?
Speaker 10 (08:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
What do you know about it?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Not much to talk about.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
What do you mean there's not much talk about you
don't know much about it, or people kind of zip
their mouths when they think about it. When we hear
why I talk about it? What do you mean exactly
what I said? Cook covid look Covalo. That's what I
keep hearing. And it sounds like, Darren, we're gonna have
to head up there find a native contact and see
what's actually going down. But first we're headed to Alder Point.
And remember has it lots of illegal weed farms out there?
(08:58):
I think is that accurate?
Speaker 9 (08:59):
I would say the best weed on earth is grown
on Murder Mountain.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
You know.
Speaker 14 (09:03):
I've been over on a couple of farms over there
and stuff. There's some people that you know are bad people,
you know, and they're doing some trafficking up there and everything.
There's a lot of wholesalers coming from the East Coast,
you know, because you know, we got the best weed,
you know, better than Colorado organic.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
We're headed into the belly of the beasts, if you will.
We're going to Murder Mountain. Do you have any advice
for us? So was to not end up on the news?
Speaker 14 (09:25):
Okay, So a lot of people are going to have
guns and everything.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
You know, they're going to have all types of.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Guns, you know. Before we make it to Alder Point
aka Murder Mountain, we first have to spend the night
in Garberville.
Speaker 9 (09:36):
My friends and I we used to camp down here
at the Ill River. They found a woman's body burnt
alive in a refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Used to be a lucrative thing.
Speaker 9 (09:44):
You'd get paid per pound you trimmed up, they'd give
you a couple hundred bucks, and now it's you're lucky
to make it out with your life at the end
of the season.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And then I stumbled upon these weed farmers walking around
the parking lot. Agreed to an interview before I went
to bed. Where are we at right.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Now, Garberville, California, Emial Triangle.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
What do you do out here?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Pretty much?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
A little bit of everything, from growing the beautiful marijuana
plants to getting.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Ready for dales. So you're not a trimigrant, right, not
a trimmer?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, I'd rather grow it and hire the trimmers than yeah,
where the farmers are?
Speaker 15 (10:16):
You're farmers?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So how long you've been growing a weed out here?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Twenty two, twenty three years?
Speaker 10 (10:19):
Now?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
How has the weed industry changed since the legalization of weed?
Speaker 15 (10:24):
There's not really no money to be made anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
There's nothing really to do with pot anymore unless you're
selling to the clubs.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's not even worth to water your plants.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
They're asking, like you youking this like twenty five dollars
a pound, and before it was like a two thousand.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Tell me about your role hiring the trimmigrants and where
these trimmigrants are from.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I try to stay away from anybody new who keeps
everybody safe. If they have experience, then you know, take
them up someplace, you know, to work, of course, and
test them out there, and then if they're good enough,
we're you can do a lot not playing and you know,
chipping off to another boss. Just try to keep the
circle going.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So here's some of these trimmer grants around, like indentured
servitude type situations. Is that is that common? Put this?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
There are some scary, scary things up here, Like it's
not all just a peace love and here grease.
Speaker 13 (11:05):
You know, you gotta watch yourself if you're working up
the hills.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It sounds like after the weed was legalized, this whole
town's economy collapsed in on itself. The town is dead.
They're suffering right now.
Speaker 9 (11:15):
They are definitely pinching pennies and when they find them,
they're rubbing them and they're trying to make something out
of nothing. It's a dying industry.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Now. Today is an ominous, foggy morning. You can still
see the moon out there. Have a rather question for it.
I wonder if you could tell me a little bit
of history through about the town. Would you be down
to tell me a little bit about the before and
after since the weed legalization can't? Okay, so too like sensitive.
Speaker 16 (11:40):
Before there was tons of businesses and everybody could afford
stuff to go on like vacations. Now since legalization, as
you can see, there's a bunch of businesses closed down,
people are moving out. It's definitely gone downhill.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
What was the community supported by like the weed business.
Speaker 16 (12:00):
Yes, everybody grew weed, had their grows and stuff. And
then legalization everybody had to get permit all the different
regulations and stuff, and so now everybody is like getting
rid of all that.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You don't west Ford brother, you know anything about Murder Mountain.
I'm a joke. We're trying to figure it. Most of
it's like myth or both, you know what I mean.
I'm an a still Okay, go back home. What's the
situation with people going missing out here?
Speaker 16 (12:32):
A lot of it was to do with the weed,
people getting you know, like ripped off or sure getting
worked and then oh, well we're not going to pay you,
you'll just go missing.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Like we're talking workers on some of these farms, yes.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
And other things.
Speaker 16 (12:46):
Because there's other you know, other drugs and whatever whatnot.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But oh hell no, all right, I'm telling you it's
over dude. What do you mean it's over kill? Me?
What you talking about?
Speaker 16 (13:00):
That?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It's a skim. That's what we're trying to learn though.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
We're trying to figure out it's up there.
Speaker 16 (13:05):
So yeah, of some young kid and then the dude
who owned the dog, because the kid was like, I'll
kill your dog, you know, and he ended up getting
shot killed kid. But even like right here on the bluffs,
people have gotten thrown.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Off, jumped off damn. Okay, yeah, right over.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
The guard rail until the river.
Speaker 16 (13:27):
Because there's been multiple people to where everybody has to
do their own like vigilante research and justice and trying
to find their family members. And there's been a bunch
of people that I have known that are gone.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
All right, brother, where you gotta be on YouTube or
fucking facebluff hopefully Facebook, Oh scam book. Okay, I'll see
you there. Hell yeah, brother, And I asked your thoughts
on uh Garberville, how about uh I asked you to
get off of my property. It's a private property. You
need to leave now for your trespass.
Speaker 12 (13:59):
So this is the garbage, real laundry mad Growing up
Hitchhiden across the country, it would rain NonStop every day,
all day, all night.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Our clothes would be soaked, we'd be wet.
Speaker 12 (14:07):
This is one of the few places you can go
get your clothes dried up here.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
We were talking to a gentleman out there about Murder
Mountain and he got pretty aggressive immediately. What's going on
with that?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It's not over yet.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I thought it was over Murder Mountain. That's what we're
trying to figure out. How much of it's fiction versus fact.
Speaker 17 (14:24):
Yeah, I don't call it murder Mountain.
Speaker 18 (14:26):
I call it adult point.
Speaker 12 (14:28):
Have you heard of anybody going missing lately or anybody's
being found along the river? Have you seen big Foot?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
My chants yes, all three.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Actually tell us a little more.
Speaker 17 (14:39):
My main thing is that there's a bunch of good
animal carcasses as far as humans. You know, we always
find out what fans I mean, we keep track of
her people. And then it just seemed to progress every
timing go on the supermarket.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
It seems like there's fresh meat, you know, and and
then that streaks you out, like the humans also there,
you know, like the meat was a little sweet, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
You know, I've traveled the world.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I've met thousands of people from all walks.
Speaker 12 (15:12):
Of life, from every corner of the globe, and I
can't shake the feeling that that woman was a cannibal
back there.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You know, it's all right, cut yo, We're gonna head
up to Redway and then the Elder Point. We were
getting closer and closer into the heart of Murder Mountain.
As we drove higher into the foggy mountains and closer
to Alder Point, I spotted these people camping in the
woods off the side of the road and wondered if
they knew anything. We're gonna walk up this mountain right
now and just say what's up, Keep it chill, just
(15:39):
be friendly. Yo'll take your presents in case we see
a few camps up here. Hey, Hey, everybody, uh up here.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I'll be going morning. Brother, I'm a friend approach.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I have no guying Hi, sir, how are you? We're
trying to talk to some some farmers out here and
some trimmers. Do you work out here? Is that after
like the legalization a weed?
Speaker 10 (16:04):
Yeah, pretty much. You know, the black market.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
We hear a lot about a ton of missing people
up here in these mountains. Is that still a problem.
Speaker 12 (16:12):
I don't know about people coming up missing too much,
mar and definitely still some people missing back there.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
I actually know a lot about the topic that you're
okay talking about here.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I want to know everything I can.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Well, I grew up out here, and you know, back
quite a few years ago now, my brother actually he
froze out in these hills. It's really interesting the way
it happened, because there was a dispute over water with
my neighbors, because they were like they wanted the water
for their weed plants and for cattle for whatever reasons.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
You know, a lot part of it was for the land.
My brother he.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Froze out on these hills and there's even some bruises.
His fingernails were pulled back and that kind of stuff,
and it's just like suspicious, and so I've always kind
of had, you know, something going on about that. But
it's happened so many years ago, and if we couldn't
done anything, and then the law enforcement didn't really make
a large effort for it. They had dogs re tree him.
That's well in the first time. So I was really
impacted by this for a long time. I actually grew
(17:04):
up over in Bell Springs or worked over in Bell
Springs up.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
In the mountain.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Actually heard rumors that some of this started happening way
back in the eighties. There was actually some people that
were murdering people up in the hills. But they're actually
cannibals too, and they were way up there and there
was actually some cannibalism going on.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
We're headed up to Alder Point. We're trying to learn
more about some of the dark underbelly these mountains.
Speaker 19 (17:22):
What should we know that you're going to be in
and out of cell phone range and that people here
don't really warm up to strangers. Yeah, I'm I'm a
bit concern that you're going up Older Point.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 19 (17:36):
If you watch the series Murder Mountain, there's a lot
of missing persons up here, get asked to work and
they never get paid, and they demand payment and then
they just get shot and killed and buried in someone's backyard.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
What's the craziest thing you guys heard about here? That Ryan? Yeah,
I mean, Jesus, tell me about Ryan Tanner, the one
one friend of ours for sure, serial killer out here?
What supposed Yeah, Jesus.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
I had another neighbor about four or five years ago,
six years ago, he actually stabbed somebody in the neck
with an ice pick. When he did that, and he
stabbed that guy in the neck, the police went out
and they raided his property and they brought cadaver dogs
out there.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
They ended up finding six bodies out there.
Speaker 19 (18:21):
They think that they can come here and make like
a few thousand dollars. There's a lot of promises. They're
living in their cars, they're living in tents, and then
when it comes time to get paid, they don't get paid.
And I've heard stories they just gets shoved off the hill.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Are there other drugs in the mountains besides canvabas?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
It's people getting carried away because they get this money
and then they start using drugs and then their brains
stopped working in and so then they turn violin or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Do you think the police do a good job at
maintaining control of the situations out here or they kind
of hands off.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That's part of what the problem is.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
They're all rookies, they're all being trained up here, and
so this is just a training ground for most people.
There's a few officers to do a good But besides
that there's just too much area for them to cover.
If you call the police, it's gonna take them at
least an hour to get to your house, depending on
where you live.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
May I approach?
Speaker 10 (19:09):
I'm a friend. I come bearing gifts.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I mean, no trouble.
Speaker 19 (19:13):
It's gonna get killed.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, A cute little dog there, Brian. My name is Tyler.
Thanks for coming out here. Brother. How many years you
been out here? Fifteen? Do you come up here to
work in the weed industry?
Speaker 9 (19:24):
Glad you can?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
You come down here for any of that?
Speaker 19 (19:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
How was life up here? We've heard a lot of
legends and myths and craziness.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
There's some I used to live way about on the
Okay they call it the wishous Kitchen. And there's I've
seen you seen called the Wind to Go.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You've seen the Wind to Go? Can you tell me
how it looked. I've heard of the Wind to Go.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
It's really huge. There, Duri school on his face.
Speaker 13 (19:50):
You know it was really long.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That sounds scary.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
I noticed along the drive up here there were a
lot of sasquatch bigfoot statues.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Have you ever seen bigfoot?
Speaker 6 (19:59):
I have never seen bigfoot? Okay, one time I got
chased up the hill down over there by a I
can't say I saw it, but it was just like
an outline, you know what I mean. It was like
silhouette moving and the dogs we're all barking, going crazy.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Could have been a person sharply, but there was a
vehicle and we'd actually drove by this vehicle. It was
probably like five or six years ago, and this vehicle
was on fire.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
There was actually two people inside of it.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
The people were burned in the car, they were covered
in gasoline. They I'm pretty sure they caught the person
that did it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
So when weed was legalized, people lost a ton of
money out here. The communities were destroyed over night or way.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
When I first came here, this place was it was
like the suggestic and it was just like, yes, it
was amazing. I mean, oh, so many people here. I
mean that could go to the brass rail and like
party every night.
Speaker 10 (20:43):
You know, and down by the river there'd be like
little festivals.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Yes, it was beautiful here, amazing. I saw the aftermask.
I've seen the aftermass was like quite a few of
my friends, just like I saw my friend huge hanging.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Industry hanging in the tree. Yeah, you had some form
of retribution out here.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Nice? Uh, my friends hurry flat and face down on
the river. You know, Jordan Rose tossed over a quiff.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Oh, I mean I could go on and on and on.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
My friend Dave was found next day, you know, on
a trailer.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Right.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
If you guys went up there with your camera and
stuff and he had to ask people if you're their mind,
you know, if you're filmed, I wouldn't go very far.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I should be careful both there. Okay, Brian, thank you
so much. Brother, Be safe out here. After nearly everyone
we spoke to express concern for our safety, we had
ascended to the legendary murder mountain Alder Points.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Real quick, I'd be like going down the road.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
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(22:05):
Here's the USPS looks to be closed. It looked like
a complete ghost town, with the only store in site closed,
the postal office vacant, and abandoned cars on the side
of the roads. But I was surprised to see this
dude across the street. We're traveling across the Emerald, but
tangle out here, kind of doctors.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
I've been here for thirty fucking years.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Tell me how this place has changed before and after
legalizational weed.
Speaker 18 (22:28):
We lost the store.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
No more store. It used to be right there.
Speaker 18 (22:32):
That store was opened since I was twelve years old.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
There have been open.
Speaker 18 (22:35):
Since nineteen ten. And it's it's closed. There's no gas,
there's no nothing. Dude, this place is done. The legalization
of marijuana killed this country.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
All that. What's real? What's fake?
Speaker 18 (22:50):
There's nothing real about Let me.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Take five bullars.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Okay, Yeah, it's a real nice place.
Speaker 15 (22:55):
It's nothing like it used to be. With the legalization
of wheed, it just kind of dried up around here.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
What was this place like during that boat I've lived
in here twelve years now, Okay, But.
Speaker 15 (23:08):
Everyone had, you know, pockets full of cash, and people
were having fun with it, and you know, small businesses
were booming.
Speaker 19 (23:13):
Everyone was doing really good.
Speaker 15 (23:15):
It was just very lively, a lot of good people
running around, but also too On top of that, it
brought a lot of bad company. Now, a lot of
people that were just here for the money, didn't care
about the environment, you know, left a lot of big messes.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Mainly a lot of people had to get nine to
five jobs.
Speaker 15 (23:28):
We just wasn't worth anything anymore. So, yeah, places like
this are pretty much ghost towns.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, unsurprisingly, this place was a complete ghost town. While
the few residents I could find shared me the nostalgic
stories of its glory days, they all still seem to
enjoy the peace and isolation they still had, but not
everyone was happy to see outsiders with cameras poked their
heads around. You, sir.
Speaker 15 (23:58):
The only reason that there's probably in a lot of
you know, killings and stuff out this way is because,
like I said earlier, the weed money brought in, you know,
just people coming to look to make a big buck,
you know, a fast buck or whatever. Those are the
people that typically caused the problems.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Was he trying to his homeboy, just being theatrical over there.
Speaker 18 (24:18):
No, he was just being a dick because he didn't
like me talking. And nobody's going about in this.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
Place during the height of the cannabis industry. How much
were some of these farmers bringing in per year millions
of dollars?
Speaker 18 (24:30):
I worked multiple operations, there were multi million dollar operations.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
What was it like working for some of those guys?
Speaker 12 (24:36):
Sucked?
Speaker 18 (24:37):
There were little dickheads. Dude, they were tighter and fuck dude,
and they barely give you a fun rebuilt get me
a motorcycles.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
You go to work the next day.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Can the people come visit or stay of Helloway?
Speaker 15 (24:48):
We like our peace quiet, But no, you guysn't were
welcome to come.
Speaker 10 (24:52):
No, it's like gustache.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Well let's see this light. God damn. So this is
the stuff they sell at cookies?
Speaker 18 (24:58):
Oh no, no, no, we have six plants here.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
The aaron is gonna do a little tastests here.
Speaker 18 (25:04):
No chemicals, no poison.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 9 (25:08):
This is one of the best wed I've ever smoked.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
You'd like to spell any myths about this place we
talked to?
Speaker 10 (25:14):
Not on YouTube. I don't want to know videos.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Okay, for sure?
Speaker 10 (25:17):
Do you close the neighborhood that have any outsiders? Man,
we don't want this on YouTube. I'll come to all
the point you scumbacks, gotting all the point or whatever,
all your losers or whatever. We don't want that.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I mean, I hear you.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
You guys don't all the point. We go somewhere else. Man.
We don't want to be nationally known or world known man,
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