Open Lines | U.S. government has recovered “non-human origin technical vehicles." | UFO HUB #89 - UFO HUB

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Last week, NASA held its firstpublic meeting on UFOs, which, by
the way, are now called officiallyan unidentified aerial phenomena. This is a
year after launching a study into unexplainedsightings, and now tonight a worldwide TV
exclusive you will only see right hereon NewsNation. Bombshell claims from a military
whistleblower published just this morning alleging asecret UFO retrieval program within the US government.

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David Crush, an Air Force veteran, former member of that task force,
and veteran of the National Geospatial IntelligenceAgency, now formally blowing the whistle
on secrets. He says no onehas ever shared publicly before. He is
speaking one on one with investigative reporterRoss Coldheart, reporting for News Nation.
When you say crush retrieval, whatdo you mean? These are retrieving non

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human origin technical vehicles, you know, call it spacecraft if you will.
It's probably on the right parlance.But no kidding, non human atic origin
vehicles that have either landed or crashed. We have spicecraft from another species,
we do? Yeah? How many? Quite a number? All right?

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Tune into Vargas tonight at six pmEastern, a worldwide TV exclusive you will
only see on News Nations. Well, do you have it? That's the
latest bus that's been going around theinternet, and I thought it's very relevant
for you to It's very relevant forme to show this to you anyway.
I think it's a lot better thanthe bs that we're showing from NASA last

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week. And I think we justneed more of these kinds of reports,
basically to just get all the hiddenand secret stuff out from the dark and
into the public eye, just forany if not for if not for advancement
of humanity, just so that everyoneelse gets to know what's out there.
After all, they paid for itwith their taxpayers or tax dollars. So

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a little bit more about that herein a bit. But first, welcome
to your Fahab livestream. Today's OpenLines, where I hope to talk to
you about this news today or anyother supernatural subjects you might have to share
with me. That is done overTelegram. You can install that on your
phone or the computer, and thereis say your Fahab channel that basically has

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a live voice chat going on rightnow. You can join that group and
when the time comes for me todo open lines, you can simply request
to talk to me and I'll addyou to the queue. So anyway,
I hope you take advantage of thatjust to at least share your thoughts on
whatever it is that's on your mindregarding the subject. So let's dive a

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little bit more into basically what hasbeen happening. So from my understanding and
from what I was able to gather, there's this article that basically was written
by Leslie Keene and Ralph Bloomintall Junefifth, and they are actually New York
Times reporters. But for some reason, New York Times was dragging a feed

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on this, and I don't knowexactly what the reason was, but from
what I was able to gather,it was going to be published way later
down the line, and I thinkit's because in correlation with the News Nation
report coming up the Sunday, whichis the actual interview that hasn't published yet,
I think they wanted to basically dropthis article on this, And so

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I was trying to gather exactly incomparison to all the other whistleblowers all over
the years that have come out thathave come forward and told what they know,
why is this one different for everyone? Else to picks it up,
and I think it just comes downto the credentials and not necessarily that anyone

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else that has over the past eightyyears come out to report on this or
be the whistleblower. It's something Iguess has to do with more and more
information coming out, something changing,obviously, more and more truth coming out,
and at the right time, atthe basically the perfect moment for this

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to just come out and have theright person, whether or not he will
be discredited about this, I don'tknow. The Pentagon has also come out
to officially deny this, but we'llsee if they change change a story,
because if I'm not mistaken, andI could be forgiven, I don't have
this little detail. When the reportabout the Pentagon project that they were secretly

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investigating UFOs initially came out, theyalso denied that at first and then later
on said okay, yeah, wewere doing that. So anyways, this
person specifically, there's a picture ofhim, and that's David Charles Grush.
I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing the name, and he saved four me. Intelligence

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official turned with Blore has given Congressand the Intelligence Community Inspector General extensive classified
information about deep, deeply covered programs. Then he says possess retrieved, intact
and partially intact craft of non humanorigin. So I guess just the level
in caliber of this person to whomhe's already talked to and who relies on

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his information for him to come outoutside of these channels, I guess that's
why the big fuss. But anyway, I hope I still have it highlighted.
I hope I didn't click away thisone out of everything. And of
course in the description below you canread this article. I have the link
for it. Also if the reporton News Nation that's about minute and a

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half long, it's also in thedescription and when it's supposed to air this
Sunday. But before I get tothat and play a snippet of that,
I just want to read this interestingpart. So in this for those who
are just listening and basically reading,the debrief section of the article, says
said that the craft recovery operations areongoing at various levels of activity and that

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he knows the specific individuals current andformer who are involved. Quote. Individuals
on the UAP programs approached me inmy official capacity and disclosed their concerns regarding
a multitude of wrongdoings such as illegalcontracting against the federal acquisition regulations and other
criminality, and the suppression of informationacross a qualified industrial base and academia and

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quote and so that you know,we've already known that in the UFOL community,
But for a decorated veteran of Afghanistanand just having that high of a
rank to come out and say thatand all this buzz made about them,

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it's actually seems to be a prettybig deal. I really hope that this
becomes or hope not that this becomesa know nothing burger, but I'm hoping
that more of this, just basicallymore whistleblowers come out, if that's what
it takes to just shine a biggerlight on the subject. And also what
I want to say anyway, Yeah, you can check this out this article

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on your own, and I wantto just play one or basically the intro
of this eleven and a half aminute report bombshell claims from a military whistleblower.
UFO wreckage recovered by the US keptclassified by a secret government program for

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decades. Tonight, a world televisionexclusive you will only see on News Nation
welcome to Elizabeth Barger's reports, EarningYour Trust every Night. Okay, So
anyway, the link for that,it's also a description I don't want to
play this whole thing. Um youcan, of course you can. You
can watch that there in your room, all right. So yeah, that

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was it. That's basically the bignews that's been blown up Twitter, and
it's been over Facebook. I don'tpersonally have Facebook, but my wife does
and she even mentioned that she sawsomething about that. So if it gets
on her feed, that usually meansit's a lot bigger, bigger deal than
than what it usually is. Andwhat I wanted to you know, what

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I wanted to add about this,and I don't know, some people might
not like it. Um, thisis just based on just UM thinks that
Bashar and those of you know Ireference to Bashar and Deryl Anka who channels
him a lot, because it hasit has been kind of my instructional manual

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from all the things that was thatI was experiencing my life, all the
things that were going on. Um, basically, instructions from Bashar given have
helped me to basically understand exactly whatwas happening in my life. So of
course to me and for you,it's a very very powerful and useful resource.
But he was talking about contact ingeneral, and I don't hear this

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talked about very often. Is thatto most of actually all the exeterrestials,
And if I remember this correctly,this has been years since since I've heard
this from Bashar. But to them, it's important that contact happens in basically,
from our point of view, initiatedby us, because if they try

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to make contact in the way thatwe hope that they would, Bashar has
explained that then they would be interactingwith a version of humanity that then was
affected by them. And so um, basically, it's kind of like,
this is just my my explanation ofwhat I understood from that, because he

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goes on to explain more and more, But I'm trying to break this down
to ward it makes sense to you, all of you watching and listening.
It's kind of like having Um,it's kind of like having and this is
not saying that you know, theythink of us as children, but it's
kind of like having a child thatbasically, if you impose your will on

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them to let's say, you willturn out to do this specific job or
or basically you tell them what theyshould do in this specific scenario. Then
you're interacting with and basically watching achild grow up that you basically have molded

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to be this specific whatever mechanic orelectric engineer, doctor, whatever that is,
you know, instead of allowing basicallyfor the child too whenever they're ready
to come out and say okay,I would like to do this, you
know, and they come to youon their own terms. And that's what

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kind of Bashar is talking about,that we have to kind of clean house
and do all these all these thingsthat have been happening. Basically, more
and more is going to come out. And oddly enough, as it was
even for me hard to believe thetime span he has given, but now
it doesn't seem so out of theordinary when you think about it. He

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said, from twenty twenty five totwenty thirty or twenty thirty five would be
kind of like the highest window ofprobability for official contact, you know,
because enough energy has changed planetwise toWere that that makes it more feasible impossible.
And at time, you know,it was like twenty fifteen, I'm

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like, how were It's taken along time, you know, just to
get to that point, how isthis going to work? But there's so
much ramped up, so much thatwe've gone through that basically I see that
in a way happening. If thiskeeps going and more whistleblowers come out and
more congressional reports, and basically towhere your you know, local whatever cook

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in the restaurant or the waitress orgarbage man, your neighbor talks about this,
that's when you know we're finally gettingsomewhere. So anyway, so that's
that regarding the subject again in theor the news in the description below,
you'll find the links to everything.And so this interview with Grush is happening

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this Sunday on News Nation. Ibelieve it's at nine eastern, eighth Central
and it's so I hope you catchit. And if you don't have News
Nation, I don't. I don'thave it either. Just wait a little
bit. I'm sure it'll appear onlinemaybe a few hours later the next day,
quite possibly on their on their newNation Nation channel on YouTube. So

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um, yeah, So let's openup the platform just for any questions or
people that want to speak to methe Joint Telegram. If you are just
in the chat rooms on Facebook,Twitch, YouTube, and what does it
have? I forgot the fourth oneTwitter. You simply put three asterixes before

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your question. That way I knowit's meant for me. And so if
you have any remarks, any questionsand don't want to verbally speak to me,
just put that down. Otherwise,John telegram and share your story or
share share your thoughts. If there'snot that much going on today, I'll
I guess I'll finish up early.But at least you got the news for
today. All right, Who dowe have here but skal it's in the

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chat. Welcome Kurt, uh labeled'salways happy to see you. Read Bradley.
Welcome Bradley, good to see youas well, um, Roy Silky
and else we have we're roll now, so yeah, welcome all of you.
You know, it's uh, I'mit's really it's a little bit surreal,

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especially since we're over twenty years,when you're constantly just trying to figure
out what's going on, not thatmany people believing in the stuff, and
um, it's always just something thatyou have to do on your own,
not necessarily just for ridicule, butjust for the lack of information that was
available. You always had to getit from others through books if you have

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not had your own experiences, youknow, or articles or things like that,
if you're just nuts and bolts researchers. So it's it's really surreal for
me just to start seeing that,Um, you know, I don't know.
I hope it's not just a oneone time thing to where that was
it And there will be a fewmore years till maybe something else, you
know, comes around and dies downagain. But but we'll see. If

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this is the period for for truthand everything that was once in the dark
coming out, then I don't Idon't see that happening again. But again
anything's possible. Let's see here allof you are very quiet today. Silkie's

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asking have you ever been regressed byDolores Um. I've met Dolores, but
I have not. I have notgone through her with the regression with her.
Now what I did is um,I did a session with Suzanne Spooner,
she was originally trained by Dolores andI really highly recommend for those of

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you that want to go through theregression process or du qhht that was originally
set out by Dolores Um, seekout the original Dolores trained people. I'm
saying that for a specific reason.If they're not UM, just don't bother
it with it, you know.And so UM what it was very very

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interesting. It's a long pro process. It's um um. It's a process
that basically it involves a lot ofit. It's a full interview that you
kind of do about your whole life. And that can take four or five
hours, so long, and thenof course however long the regression takes.
But success when it was great.You know, I have I have that

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session. I even recorded it.I have not edited. It's been my
personal collection or my files. I'vehad that for quite a long time now.
I don't know if I'll ever doanything with it. But it was
very interesting to see how how thathow that works, and it gave me

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a different perspective about what that methodallows to do, is to kind of
through a shore fire away process,get you to go to places where before
after my long experiences, I wasable to get through meditation. But even
prior to that, before I knewanything just to get your feet wet,

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having to get um like um,using um like ayahuasca or some of these
other plants or basically just have aUM. Any of these were considered hallucingens
to get to that state where QHHTdoes it just naturally by guiding you through
the process. And it's amazing whatDolores was able to basically achieve to get

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you to that state. And UM, if you're working with a good person,
they take that time and patience toget you to that to that area
to where you speak about things thatyou know, you know you didn't experience
in this life. And UM,just basically just say whatever whatever comes through,
and if you have the opportunity,always recorded, because then just revisiting

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it there used to be. Thereused to be I don't know what exactly,
what time process or what time spanwhere people that went through that process
were always unconscious and whoever came throughto speak through them, they wouldn't remember
it. They would have to listento that tape to see you, like,
wow, that was me that saidthat they went through this process.

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But then something happened. I thinkit was right around twenty twelve. I
don't want to make this, youknow, more mysterious than what it actually
is, but um, all ofa sudden they noticed the switch switch or
a shift to where people are consciousthrough that process as whatever it is that
they're going through, so they rememberactually, so they don't need to really

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listen. I mean they can't forreference, but they're aware, they're they're
not having to go into this deepsleep to would have to be unconscious in
order for information to come through.So anyway, I'm sorry I went on
on this tangent, but yes,I went through the process myself, and
I would really recommend it for othersas well. Verona said, mischief presentation,

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So apologies if you covered this question. Oh another question I see and
the Varona says, doctor Christopher kidGreen claims to have been hoaxed at Pentagon
with fake alien autopsy material. Isthis possible that this whistle blower grush has

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been hoaxed? And if so,for what purpose? Well, that's interesting
because the possibility is always there.The only thing different is that all these
people before were always people that justcame out to some obscure rapport that eventually

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made its way to an article oronline. But to have this individual having
the ranks that he does and theconnection to where Congress listens to him,
not that supposed to mean much.But you know, if we're gonna close
our eyes and dumb ourselves down andthink highly of Congress. If they're listening

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to him, there's something to him, you know, unless he's also hoaxing
Congress, you know, which thenyou get yourself in deep trouble. But
so far, I will usually lookat John Greenwald Black Vault, he runs
that, he has his opinions onthat, and some of the other people
that are in the field that they'reconcentrating more on the nuts and bolts papers

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and freedom of information acts. Idon't concentrate in that at all anymore.
As I mentioned, once you onceyou've had your own experiences, there's no
paper that will ever help you figureout what's going on. It just becomes
this sole journey to where you usea whole different set of tools basically to

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move forward, and you leave books, papers and other things behind once once
you have that. Now, ofcourse, I'm not poo pooing that process
because that process is important because Iwas there at one point. But if
you keep growing and eventually get there, all these individuals that I'm hoping you
seek out are important in your processand your steps to getting to wherever you

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need to be. Okay, Rnasays, I agree. Okay, let's
see. Let me let me check. Let me check Telegram to see if
we have someone who wants to speakyet. Nope. So yeah, don't

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be shy. Join me if youcan speak to me. Otherwise, like
I said, ask your questions.Please make sure you use the three asterixes
before your question and they'll help meout a big deal. Otherwise, like
I said, I'll just finish itoff here and I'll catch you next week.
Usually I have the show unless unlessI until what the last time or

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the prior time, I couldn't becauseit was my daughter's birthday and all kinds
of things were going on, andI just miscalculate a whole bunch. Um
Akintar says, I'm on Telegram waiting. I'm not sure where in Telegram you
are, but you have to.Telegram is a software that I don't control.

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But you have to join the ufoll Hop channel and then there you'll
see a voice chat that's going onright now that you can join. Just
being on Telegram. It's not goingto get you directly to us. In
the description and below this video,there's a link to the your fall Up
channel on Telegram that might help youout. Okay, let's see what else

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we got. I don't think thisis specifically meant for me, because I
don't see the asterisk is, butKurt wrote, So Grush went to Arrow
and Congress and talked. Yet Yetduring the hearing, Kirkpatrick told Congress no
whistle blower came to him a lie, and Congress knew it was a lie

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and said nothing. Hm. Sojust trying to understand that. Oh,
I see, okay, I getit now. Um yeah, Well,
like I said, there's there's otherpeople like if you're on Twitter, man,

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I don't know. Um, it'sit can get pretty heavy when it
comes to being on there because peopleare bitching at each other, complaining,
accusing all kinds of things, youknow. And so if there's anyone that's
going to come get to the bottomof it to figure out whether or not
this is a lie, if thatwould be that place, because especially when

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you have people that also want toget to the bottom of it, and
you have an impostor adele easily youknow, find them out. All right,
let's see true. I can tarsaying I'm watching you on Telegram.

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I think you can only listen tome on telegram because I don't have to
feed going through all right, Okay, yeah, I'm sorry. If there's
are just listening, I'm actually justkind of looking around seeing if there's any

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other questions or anyone else that wantsto speak. If you are in telegram,
there should be a little button witha person that looks like a raised
hand. You tap that and tellme that you want to talk to me,
and that way I can bring youin. Otherwise, those that are
just listening, I will want tolisten. That's why telegram is there for,
and I don't usually bother them.Okay, all right, David.

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Let me bring David in and I'mmute him. So, David, you
are unmuted on my end. Imute yourself on yours, and you should
be able to speak to me.I hope I did that right, Yep.
I hear a loud and clear.How are you just dandy? It's
great to be on your show.I wanted to talk about something that happened

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to me twenty six years ago.I'm in Phoenix, Arizona, David David,
Okay, I'm sorry, dude,David, I've been in touch with
yes, Okay, good deal,all right, Yeah, no, now
it makes sense. So anyway,let me just give some quid context.
So David wanted to share the story. I don't want to take your town
their way, but I'll leave itup to you. But I'm glad you

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found out how to get to totelegram and speak to me today. So
all right, I'll leave you be. I'll go ahead and tell your story.
Please. Yeah, it was I'man r N and at the time
I was a hospice RN. Idid hospice for seventeen years and we had
a ten bed hospice in patient unitin Mesa, Arizona. I lived in

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Phoenix, so it was quite adrive back and forth, and I did
twelve hour shifts and in March thirteenth, nineteen ninety seven, the night shift
shift nurse came in late, soI had to stay just a little bit
later. And that actually put mein the best place I could possibly be

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to have seen the Phoenix lights.So as I was driving home from Mesa
to Phoenix, we have it atRoute sixty at the time was undergoing a
lot of remodeling, and every timeI came to an overpass, I had
to get off the freeway and goup the ramp and go over the overpass

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and then back onto the freeway.So by the time I was getting almost
into Tempee, which is the suburbbetween Mesa and Phoenix, I was going
up over the overpass. There wasthis huge mound of construction dirt and I
had to drive up on it,and very close to me was a street
light, and the street light wasabout parallel with me, maybe it was

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about two feet over my head.That's how elevated I was in the air.
And I was about to go downthe hill and get back onto the
freeway, having to look out mywindow, and here's this massive boomerang flying
towards me, very low, slow, low. So I slammed on my
brakes and I had the brights oneof my truck. I got out of

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my truck. About four o'clock.Behind me was the street light, very
bright, shining down. I hada lot of light. There was still
some ambient light from the city kindof shining up. And here comes this
like a banana shaped boomerang, youknow about that angle of a banana flying
and coming closer and closer, andthe lights since I'm looking at it almost

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horizontal, maybe at a twenty degreeangle, from your normal resting vision of
your eyes, it looked like afire was coming out of it. And
as I got closer and closer,I was very concerned that I was going
to get burned. The nearest lightwas so close. If the craft had

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fallen to the ground, I couldhave taken like two steps and kicked the
tip of the left wing, soit was almost exactly over my head.
As it came up over me,the light was an opening in the bottom
of the craft. I could seea little bit of the far side of

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the light, maybe about eight inchesup into it, there was like a
silver lining tube, and out ofthat port exactly what looked like lava,
and it was orange crush orange,and it would drip down, very thick,
in very viscous light, come downfour to eight feet. It would
form large drips, it would stop, and then it went back up into

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the opening in the craft, andthere'd be five or six or seven huge
massive drips of this stuff coming down. And when someone's coming down, someone's
going back up, kind of likea lava lamp, but upside down.
And when the stuff returned back intothe like if you're boiling something on the

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stove and boiling water. The watersplices up and it goes up in the
air and stops and it falls backdown. That's what the stuff looked like.
It looked like it fell up.It wasn't like sucked back up like
a vacuum. It looked like itfell up. And this was continually going

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and there was like an orange glowon me from this stuff, whatever it
was, it was coming out.The bottom of the craft was indented with
thousands and thousands of oval shaped indentswith a very clear, sharp edged indentations
into it. I'm going to saythey were about maybe two two and a

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half feet wide. They went horizontallyfrom the tip the left tip as far
as I could see them inward,I would imagine perhaps the whole bottom was
covered. But this craft was atleast a mile wide. So I was
more focused on this, this lavastuff dropping down because I was afraid I

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was going to get burned it.As it would stretch, it would turn
almost yellow, and then it wouldform big drips it would go back to
orange. But there was no heat, there was no sound, there was
no wind. It didn't disturb thedust, it didn't blow dust in my
eye, no odor, my skindidn't tingle, my hair didn't burn,

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and I was paying attention to allthat I'm a nurse and you think,
you know, you know, reactionsto something like this. There was absolutely
no sound, and as it passedoverhead, there was like streams of a
colorful mist. It looked like aflag from Disneylands, kind of what it

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looked like. It was as thickas it came out of the back of
the craft, and then it wouldtaper down to just to find the thin
trail, and it wove kind oflike a flag waving in the wind.
And again I felt nothing. Therewas no like mist falling on my face.
There was no odor, there wasn'tanything like that. And as it

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went out, as the mist wentover my head and the craft was flying
south, it kind of veered alittle bit to the west, went down
through Chandler, Arizona, and Ijust stood there staring at it until it
went out of sight, and Iwas hoping somebody would come up and stop.
I wanted to share this moment withsomeone, but it was just me

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out there and I just stood thereand I started crying. I was just
overwhelmed with like the sense of gratitudeand I don't know if I did that
to me or if the craft didthat to me, but that feeling has
stayed with me for now twenty sixyears. And it's not just something I

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feel every now and then. It'slike twenty four hours a day now for
over a quarter of a century.And I was a hospice nurse, so
you've got to be kind of anice guy anyway. But yeah, boy,
I'd get on the road, Ohi mud have road rage, and
I'd be hunk on my horns andpeople and pulling in front of him and
slamming on the brakes. And sincethat night, I have never hunked my

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horn once. And I let peoplecut and line in front of me at
the grocery store. I let peoplego in front of me. It's I've
had such a positive, wonderful benefitfrom seeing that craft. That night.
I felt like something inside ticked,like something in my head like maybe moved

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a quarter of an inch. Ijust felt something something change, and it's
just been a blessing. It isn'tlike hitting the lottery, so uh,
you know, yeah, I'm sorryto interrupt. I mean, that's that's
been an event. That's um,it's been very prevalent, you know,

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just for those who have been followinguthology for a very long time, and
even they was it the mayor thegovernor that initially uh decline or basically pooh
pooed it, you know, andthen came back as I'm sorry, you
know I did that, but hewas worried for other reasons or whatever,
and actually confirmed that this event washappening over Phoenix. Yes, the governor

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came out and made a big jokeabout it and had somebody dressed up in
a in a you know, aUFO, an alien costume. But at
the time our governor was indicted,um or, there was some building contracts
that supposedly um he was involved inthat he shouldn't have been, and as

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I recall, he was. Hewas found guilty, but Clinton Um you
know, gave him a pardon andyou know, who knows what pressure was
put on him at that time tosay what he did. But later he
recanted all of it and said hesaw it. A lot of people saw
it. And I spoke at thelast couple of annual events we have here

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in Scottsdale, Arizona, on theanniversary of the Phoenix Lights, and a
lot of people saw the light,but not everybody saw the craft, and
some of the people saw the craftas a v and for me it was
it was just it was a nice, smooth, sleek boomerang shape. And

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no one that I know of sawthis stuff dripping down. I think they
were looking up more directly into thelight, and as it would pour down,
maybe you know, they would sayorange and yellow swirls. I saw
it at an angle and it wasvery high to it, and as it
came overhead, I thought, Iwonder what it would hit that sound like

(35:58):
if I hit it with a rock. I was probably thirty feet underneath the
tip of the left wing, andI was sure I could hit it with
a rock. And I'm here ona construction site and there's rocks all over,
and I almost bent down to getone, to you know, chuck
a rock and is it going toecho? What? You know? Who
knows? Is that paper? Idon't know. But then I got to

(36:19):
thinking there might be some very badconsequences. So though now you know,
twenty six years later, I kindof do wish that I had thrown one,
but you know, it's probably nota nice thing to have done.
Well. I wanted to ask yousomething. I don't want to interrupt if
you if you wanted to just continueand basically tell more of it, I
apologize. You just got me incheque to ask some questions. So whichever

(36:43):
way you want to go, justlet me know. I know, I'll
make sure you shut up. Um. Okay, So it's okay if I
interrupt you real quick? Sure,all right? What I wanted to ask?
So, how long in its entiretycan you do? You? Did
you even know how long did craftstay over Phoenix? Um? I don't
know how long it stayed over Phoenix. There's a timeline on a documentary.

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It was like maybe twenty minutes thirtyminutes over Phoenix proper. And it came
from northern Arizona, as I wastold. The first account was in Henderson,
Nevada. And when you come northinto Phoenix, we have this huge

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elevation change. We go from likefive thousand feet down to like five thousand,
probably three thirty five feet down toa thousand feet and it's a it's
a very quick and very steep wecan call it the switchbacks to drive down.
So it seemed to follow the terrainbecause the people that I've also talked

(37:53):
to said it just went over theirrooftops and it was thirty feet over my
head. So it had to descendwith a terrain into Phoenix. It went
very slow. It just was takingits time. It was just coasting by.
I watched it for a good tenminutes after it went over my head

(38:13):
as it went down south, andit seemed to go back over towards the
freeway we have the freebody going downfrom Phoenix down to Tucson. You know,
I don't remember it. Was itonly one night or did it come
back several nights? Was it justone hund thing interesting? And years later,

(38:37):
after seventeen years of hospice, Ineeded to see people get better for
you know, after for a change. So I became an emergency room nurse
for about nearly twenty years. Andone of my patients one day was a
retired sheriff from the Navajo reservation upin northern Arizona. And I don't know
how we got on the subject,but we were talking about it, and

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he said that for two days priorto the March thirteenth sighting over Phoenix,
he said that there were at leasttwenty craft or flying over the Navajo Reservation
and landing, and he said hecould see people on the mass and a
mass like a flat hill that thecraft would land, and he could see

(39:22):
beings get out and look like theywere working or something on the craft and
get back in. And he saidthere were so many that his neighbors actually
took the lawn, the living roomfurniture and put it in the yard so
they could watch. And he talkedhe was the sheriff, and he talked
to others there and they decided notto report it because they didn't want a

(39:45):
bunch of white people coming onto theirland. And it's like, oh my
gosh, well that's no, that'sintriguing. Well, you know, especially
with that event that's a mass sighting, I would consider that just for Phoenix
alone, to have something that bighover over it. Um, well,
especially what what was that ninety seven? Right seven? Yeah? Mark,

(40:08):
Yeah, especially, people were differentthan people were outside more. Unless I'm
gravely mistaken, I was still Ithink I was still in Germany then,
but just understanding a little bit doinglate nineties American culture. You know,
people were a lot more outgoing thanthey are today and stuck in their homes
watching Netflix all day, you know, so there must have been a lot

(40:28):
more people have seen this. Uthe big thing here in Arizona, I
mean everywhere else in the country.People are frozen in in the winter.
Well we're baked in in the summerhere, so when it's nice weather,
we are outside a lot. Butthe Hillbop comet was in the sky and
a lot of people supposedly were outsideto see the comet, So it was

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like a perfect time if something wantedto be seen. And of course I
have no idea if that dead ordidn't um that it flew over the valley.
Doctor lynd key Tye wrote a bookinto a documentary on this, and
she says, for other reports thatthere were nine other craft between western California,

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across Arizona and into eastern New Mexicothat night. She said it was
almost like a UFO parade going fromnorth to south. And I guess one
of the craft was seen later earlierin the morning heading back north. So
well, that's that is awesome,that is you know just I mean,

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I've heard about the event before.I'm sorry I don't have all the details,
but I've never actually spoken to somebodywho was there, you know,
and just listening to you. Obviously, it's not any kind of scientific way
to figure out whether or not you'retelling the truth. But I certainly,
you know, trust your voice whenI hear it, unless my spidy senses
I've broken down to when you're justlying to me, and I wouldn't know

(41:57):
it them well. I sat onit for quite a bit because especially when
the governor came out and made sucha big joke about it, and the
nice thing I could talk about tomy friends and my co workers because so
many other people saw it too.And I worked with a social worker who's

(42:17):
seen it that nice and another nurseshe worked at another facility but with the
same company I was, the samehospice I was with, and she saw
it. But over over the years, I didn't think anybody had any interest.
I knew nothing about move On.I had no interest in UFOs.

(42:38):
I later had a couple other weirdthings happened when I was camping in the
desert, and that's kind of brought, you know, my interest into UFOs
and aliens to the forefront. ButI just found move On just a few
years ago and came forward with allthis stuff. It's it go ahead,

(43:01):
it was looking up at it.I mean, it's like the tip of
the left wing was pretty much almostover my head and then looking at the
tip of the right wing. Sothat's a ninety degree angle between me looking
directly up and then looking at thehorizon. That craft took about seventy five

(43:22):
degrees of that ninety degrees, somy estimate would be at least a mile
wide from tip to tip. Andthose little indentations they were all over the
place. They weren't on the side. I could see just a little bit
up the side of the tip ofthe left wing. And when I see
people draw it, they make againthe craft look like a triangle, which

(43:45):
it wasn't, and they make thetip of the wings a point, and
it wasn't. They were rounded horizontallyand rounded vertically, and there was no
indentations on the side. I couldn'tsee up high. I couldn't you know,
the thickness of the craft. Ihave no idea if there are windows

(44:06):
or anything. I could just seethe bottom and then that that missed coming
out in flags, and it wasas far as I could see, it
was like streams of this colorful,sparkly missed rainbow colored and I just dissipated
afterwards. So if it wasn't atriangle, actually want to ask a few

(44:29):
questions that um. One regarding thedesign um for what I remember, was
it because of the way the lightswere laid out? Was it more of
a shape of a boomerang? Andthe other question that I specifically want to
ask was more of this like personaleffect nature you were. Have you talked

(44:50):
to anyone else than you know,like you said in the in such detail
to where they might have shared similarstory about this behavioral change that you experience.
And also, were there any kindof like dreams or anything weird for
a long time happening after that?The people I talked to, and you

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know, at our annual event,they would have different witnesses come up.
Nobody seemed to have the same emotionalchange that I had. It was I
just felt like something in me change, And I don't want to read into
it more than I want to keepeverything as authentic as to what exactly happened

(45:37):
that evening. I don't know ifif I did it to myself or if
they zapped me was something, butI could feel like something like move just
a fraction of an inch inside likemy head like a little tick. That's
weird, and I remember that.But the only change in my life was

(45:59):
I've just become a nice surgeon orpeaceful smile. I live alone and I
sit here at night and my smileand I catch myself and my friends and
my co workers all noticed a bigchange my personality. And now for over
a quarter of a century, it'sconsistent. It's not just now and then,
it's twenty four hours a day,year after year after year after year

(46:22):
after year. And you know what, what? Why was that? I
don't know. I have no idea. And the boomerang shape, I don't
know why some people saw it asas a triangle. I was talking to
a guy his name down something andhe does three D animation, and he

(46:42):
asked for my phone number and myemail address. He's writing a book,
doing a book on classic UFOs andhe's doing three D animation that's seeing something
at a different angle, how itlooks like a completely different craft. And
he's doing a talk. I thinkit's coming up with the UFO Congress um
in October um. I haven't heardback from me, but he wants to

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add some of my details when hedoes the drawing on the Phoenix light craft.
Okay, so yeah, what I'mum, I don't know if you
can because there's a delay between telegramand if you're watching something. So I'm
glad you just on there with meon telegram so that you don't get confused.
But in case you are not watching, I'm letting united watching. Okay,

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I'm just showing um just a quicksearch Phoenix lights graphic and just seeing
what Google comes up with. Andif you are seeing this, um,
what about this Phoenix slides Wikipedia?Does that resemble that? Or is it?
Is it something entirely different. They'reon the on the top on the

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right and the left where you justsee the lights in the darkness. These
two you can uh, not theother. There you are just the lights
in the darkness on the farm therethat one. Yeah, yeah, see
it's got a slight bind to it. And that's boomerang versus the triangle drawing.

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But other people say they saw thetriangle, and so many just saw
lights and saw no shape at all. But maybe it's from where I was
in kind of Tempe going into Phoenixthat I could. I saw it sideways
more than looking up at it.I saw it more horizontally, and as

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it was, I was elevated andthe craft was low, so we were
very close to each other. Iwas right in its you know, kind
of direct path, and I couldclearly see it was boomerang shape. So
I can't explain that, and Ican't explain why no one else has reported
seeing this liquid lava stuff dropping outand sucking back in. They just wanted

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to pull something up so that anyonewatching can at least with your confirmation,
kind of get an idea what exactlyis it is that you saw, because
this footage is you know, goodold nineteen ninety seven, probably you know,
eight millimeter Canon camera, a lotof a lot of stuff that's still
available because I don't know was thereany news crew that was able to capture

(49:22):
it with their cameras? Do youknow? I think it was out of
sight before anyone officially went after it. Who knows a friend of mine,
this lady I met years later,who is by the Air Force base on
the other end of the valley.I guess the Air Force denied anything was

(49:44):
going on, but she was inher backyard and saw the craft, saw
a jet take off from the AirForce and chase it, So how can
they deny that it flew over Phoenixwhen you know there's here's at least one.
I don't know how many other witnessessaw craft jets go after it.

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I don't know if anybody else wasout there taking pictures. You know,
we didn't have cell phones with cameras, and in Arizona it gets so hot
you don't get used to keeping acamera in your car because it'll burn up.
And if I did have a camerain my truck, I wouldn't have
taken my eyes off of this thingto run in and get it and turn
it on and wait for it topower up and take the lins cap off

(50:30):
and back. Then you had tofocus. Yeah, well when you see
this. I love the initial explanationhow they were like, oh, these
are flares, military flares or whateverexcuses they came up with at that time.
Officially, Yeah, it's and Isaw it. I mean I saw
the stuff that was glowing. Peoplekind of like think it was like a

(50:54):
light bulb or something shining down outof the bottom of the craft. It
was a hole, it was anopening, and the light source was this
liquid stuff itself, and it dripped, It dripped very slow, like cold
syrup, and strung down and formedbig drips and went back up into it.

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It was like liquid fire. AndI've never really seen a flare.
I can't, you know. Iclaim I know what flares really looked like.
I seen little ones, you know, by the side of the road,
But from the drawings and everything thati'd seen or something on TV,
there was nothing like that. Andthere was no heat, and there was
no sizzle, and there was noodor. And I was so close to

(51:37):
it I would have felt that Iwould have smelled it, I would have
heard it, and there was absolutelynothing. There was total silence. A
friend of mine, the social worker, that it went right over his car,
and he was in northern Arizona atthe time, and he says as
it flew over his truck that allthe crickets stopped, all sound stopped until

(52:00):
it went over his car, andthen all the crickets started chirping again.
So I don't know if I hadsomething to distort that or else it scared
the crickets, I don't know,right, So yeah, I'm sorry if
I missed it earlier. You maybeexplaining this as you were going through your
your process. So, um,the so besides the physical sensations that you

(52:22):
could feel off this craft and allthese other things, So what else?
What else was there? Was thereanything specifically um happening with you physically because
of this close mixed proximity. Absolutelynothing. And I paid attention a while
it was happening because I was afraid. I was afraid of burning and just

(52:45):
all this It looked just like avolcano lava bright and it was shining.
I mean, I was orange fromthe globe that was coming off of that.
Plus I you know, I hadmy brightes on it, so that
glow was fighting the brights of mytruck. Plus I had that huge,
uh street light very close to me. And because of that, I could

(53:09):
see clearly the bottom of the craftand the reflection and the shadows that the
little indentations made from one side fromthe orange from whatever that stuff was dripping
down, and then from my sidefrom the headlights, and then from the
street light. I was waiting forsomething to happen. It's like I remember

(53:34):
thinking, should I get back inthe in the truck, you know,
as the gas tank going to blowup, so to get behind the truck.
Should I run down the hill?I mean I was going through all
of this really quick as it wascoming up on me, just to be
safe. Not that the thing wasthreatening me or scared me. I was
just thinking of safety. And then, you know, after it passed,

(53:58):
maybe it was the relief that Iwas was going to be fine, but
it was just like I just Icouldn't help. I couldn't stop crying,
and generally when I talk about it, I cry. It was so overwhelmingly
it was like this generosity I felttowards it. It was appreciation, it

(54:20):
was gratitude. I've never felt anythinglike that. I've buried my children,
i've buried my whole family. I'vehad I've had so many things happen in
life. I never had a feelinglike this. And it's been consistent for
over a quarter of the century.And that's my big takeaway from it.
Beyond the siding and what an incrediblepiece of machinery it was, I would

(54:44):
love to know who, you know, who had their foot on the petal,
and who built it, who's inside, where did it come from?
I have no idea. Well,of course, David, I'm really sorry
to hear that about your family's um. I'm you know, just I'm sorry
you had to go through that,and UM, I don't know when it

(55:05):
comes to the rest of the stuff. Maybe maybe enough will come out to
where UM you know, if inone eventual contact is made, you'll get
to meet them, or maybe thegovernment will come out and they might have
some more info. Who knows.Yeah, yeah, but what was this?
So this this happening was it whenyour family was still still around?

(55:28):
UM My children died now probably abouteight years prior which UM, I had
learned my lessons as your family passesbefore you, or you passed before your
family. It's either one or theother. I mean, that's it.
And that led me to become ahospice a nurse. I did hospice seventeen

(55:51):
years. I also did five yearsa hospice pediatric and then I went became
a pediatric burned nurse. So itreally brought out a direction for my life.
You know, there was the mostthe reaction of anyone else there was
then around you, you know,a co worker, other other maybe relatives

(56:12):
of family members you were around.Uh did you share the story with them?
Did you keep quiet? Can youcan you tell me a little bit
about about that well, working hospiceand we had a ten bed unit and
our average life expectancy there was seventytwo hours, so we would lose a
couple patients a shift, so youknow, it was a We were a

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very emotionally supportive UH team of nurses, plus with the families and with our
patients. We had many experiences umto recently deceased patients. You can imagine
probably every room, at least fivehundred people died in every in all of
our ten rooms there, and wewere there for years and years and years,

(56:59):
so we've felt free about talking aboutthings that we saw and they were
completely supportive, and especially you know, turn on the TV and there's you
know, there's a dozen people.Will we flew right over our house,
it flew over a school, itflew over you know whatever. So there
was a lot of support from thenews, so no one thought I was

(57:20):
nuts. I think the people thatdidn't see it were upset that they weren't
outside looking at the sky at thetime. And had the night nurse that
replaced me, had she been inon come in on time, I would
have been home and missed it.So yeah, it was just a flick
that had happened to me, butI couldn't have been at a better place

(57:43):
to see it at the angle thatI saw it. Um it's um.
It was like David David on theoff chance that someone that's watching now and
later on, this will stay onon the web forever until it, you
know, until or if they evertake it down. Someone from Phoenix and
It is looking for a support groupas any kind of information you could give

(58:05):
out regarding that, and not justsupport group, but just you know,
you said, this an event that'shappening regularly, and maybe talk about that
a little bit. Yeah, aroundMarch thirteenth of each year for about the
past fifteen years, they get togetherin Scottsdale at a movie theater. Doctor
Lynn Ketaie I always spell it wrong, who has written a book and done

(58:31):
a documentary on this, plays thevideo and we have a couple of witnesses.
It's about a four or five hourafternoon and we get to share it
and that's really nice. She alsohas a website I really can't think of
what it is, Phoenix Light dotnet or something like that. There's also

(58:53):
a band group that happens here nowand they call themselves Phoenix Lights. So
when you google nix Lights, alot of it's the band group. You
kind of got to do Phoenix LightsUFO if you're going to search that.
We also have a local Moufon groupthat meets once a month. I attend
that they don't focus on the PhoenixLights a month much. But at the

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Arizona Museum there's a permanent display anda model of the Phoenix Lights craft as
a v and there's photos on thewall. It's been there for several years,
and there's videos. You can pusha button and play the video.
So that was really nice that theydo that. They supported this, you
know, commemorated the event. Thankyou for that information, David. So,

(59:46):
is there anything else you would liketo, you know, share regarding
this event. It's pertinent that youwant to talk about. That's that's pretty
much what happened. I mean,I yea so many people well now and
then I run into people that tosay, oh yeah, yeah, my
neighbor saw that, or I sawthat there was a big cover up.

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I know somebody that worked in alongwith the governor who tried to come forward
about this almost lost her job forspeaking out about it. But you know,
I think as the as the governorwas no longer governor and whatever pressures,
he was under a team forward andhe was I believe, a military

(01:00:31):
pilot, and he said, absolutelywas nothing from this planet. I don't
know where it was from it.I don't want to read into it.
But that thing was absolutely massive andit was silent and it didn't even make
wind. It didn't even you know, blow my hair. There was no

(01:00:52):
sound, there was no odor there. The next day, I got up
and I looked in the mirror tosee if I had, you know,
radiation burners something nothing. I hadabsolutely uh, no negative effect from seeing
it. It was just this positivething, this positive effect that's been in
my life and uh and I justfelt like a better person for it.

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But no one else seemed to havehad that effect. So I don't know
I stand out different. So,David story truth. I'm I'm getting old,
my health is failing, and Ijust wanted to to document what I
saw and uh, you know,maybe maybe someone will maybe someone will gets

(01:01:35):
some answer someday. Well, David, I don't know if you caught the
beginning of the show or if youheard about the recent whistle blowing news.
Um do you if you if youhave, Do you have any thoughts on
that? UM? I got kindof a a odd feeling. Um,
it'll be interesting to say. Idon't want to I don't want to pass

(01:01:58):
judgment on anybody else. It justI don't know. When I talk about
I want to hear myself talk aboutwhat I saw. I know people think
that's just crazy. I mean,how can that be? So I don't
want to devaluate anything anybody else's thatthey've seen. But I just kind of
wonder about how how much truth iscoming out from the government or ex government

(01:02:23):
people. My dad when I wasa kid, when I was ten years
old, and this is back inthe in the mid nineteen sixties, we
lived in Ohio, and we weredriving by Right Patterson Air Force Base in
Dayton, and I'm in the backseatreading a comic book. My dad's driving,
my Mom's next to him, andhe points to a building and says

(01:02:45):
to my mom, he says,that's the building where we put the flying
saucers and the alien bodies. AndI'm peeping up and I'm saying, I
want to see the flying saucers.Well, my dad didn't realize I was
listening, and he quickly changed thesubjects. He says, only special people
get to see those. Let's goget ice cream, and I want to

(01:03:06):
see the flying saucers. And there'sno, no, no, no,
no. You know, he quicklychanged the subject and and you know,
off we went. And over theyears he would ask me, you know,
what do you think about UFOs.I mean, it's like, I've
never really had any interest in themwhatsoever. I still don't. I have
an interest in what I saw,but I really don't read about him or

(01:03:29):
you know, I'll watch some videosnow and then, but I always wonder,
you know, what went on withmy dad. He was in the
military from nineteen forty five to nineteenfifty two or fifty three. I thought
he was in the Army, butnow looking stuff up, it was Army
Air Force till about nineteen forty seven, and then the Air Force kind of

(01:03:51):
took off on its own, andI believe he went on with the Air
Force. So I wonder what heknew. And I wished I would have
dug more. I could tell thatmy dad wanted to talk about it,
but I just had no interest.And my dad's dad, his dad had
a clipping he saw a cigar shapedobject in nineteen nineteen, and he reported

(01:04:15):
it to the local newspaper, andhe had the clipping in his scrap book.
And I was kids, we'd alwayswe don't see Grandpa, we would
always pull out the scrap book andread about him seeing the cigar shaped craft
flying over the trees and houses andzipped off. So it's three generations of
males that have seen UFOs in ourfamily. And who knows if my kids,

(01:04:41):
you know, we grew up,who knows that they would have seen
something or not. I don't know. We know the way things are going.
And if there's any truth to thisgovernment, you know, eventually whether
buy force or otherwise releasing more andmore. If the it was a program
that your father was involved with,I'm sure it's recorded, and um you

(01:05:04):
know, um um, I guessrecorded somewhere. You know, does some
paperwork some trail. Wouldn't that beinteresting? Yeah, it's um. Yeah,
these are great times to be ayoung person because I think all this
stuff's going to come out for youguys. I think you guys are going
to get the answers, and it'sa shamed the older people. My dad's

(01:05:26):
generation that was intimidated so much bysaying anything. I was watching an old
cartoon friend sent it to me,and it was Daffy Duck saw a UFO
and how crazy he was he was, and they they put him in a
straight jacket and carried him off.It's a what a horrible thing to have
done to people in the nineteen fifties. And now today it's coming out,

(01:05:51):
it's on the news. It's thisis amazing to be able to talk about
this freely, right yeah. Now, oh, there's there's no straight jacket
for anybody say everything anything. It'sit's out there, you know. It's
like no repercussions like they used tohave. It's it's a great time to

(01:06:12):
be into this topic. You guys, you guys are gonna I think you
guys are gonna get the answers.We know, just decon. You know.
I'm hoping, of course, alwaysthe best for you, you know,
but you know, just if youstick around for another ten years,
it will be it will be quitea different reality. I believe it.
I think it's uh. I thinkthe snowball effect is as accumulated and so

(01:06:34):
many people have come forward and toldtheir stories, and they refuse to shut
up, and that's what we need. We just we just need everybody to
speak up, and not just onthe line, but to their friends or
family. You know, it's likeme speaking to that um retired share from

(01:06:55):
the Navajo reservation. Who knows ifyou would have brought that up. I
to get how the conversation came up, but you know what went on up
there and why were they so freeup there on the Navajo reservation and not
afraid to be seen. It's there'sjust so many questions. It's coming out,
it's coming out soon. Well,you know, it's just still amazing,

(01:07:17):
just even people within your own vicinity. I've talked about this a couple
of weeks back or a good agood friend of mine. He finally like
it was a Tucker Corson has mentionedsomething about UFOs and he called me and
shared the article to tell me allabout it. You know, I was
kind of making a little bit funof him because I'm like, you know

(01:07:38):
that, you know, you're preachingit quiet here. But what he then
proceeded to do is just tell mein many ways that he just never did
before about how Dad like literally changedhis reality. He says, like it
was like something opened up within himto where this is now a possibility,

(01:08:00):
he says before, I mean he'sbeen around me, around other people.
I mean, he was the cameraguy at the uful Confidence for God's sake,
you know, and nothing took youknow, nothing you know, seeped
through. But it took someone likeyou know that he trusts, at least
from his point of view, Tucker, to say something about UFOs, and
it changes entire world. And itwas amazing just to have that conversation with

(01:08:23):
him, you know. But thingslike that might be happening to a lot
more people, you know. Andgood thing is that they've been crazies like
myself and you know yourself and manyothers online they've been talking about this for
a long time to where they canthen just use this as an online library
for reference. You know, there'sthousands and thousands of people in the government

(01:08:45):
that know all this. They knoweverything. We're still amazed at lights in
the sky. They are so farbeyond that. I mean, you know,
they've understood the lights in the skyback in probably the thirties and the
forties. They are they know everythingabout this, they know, they know
so much, and we're still youknow, trying to get you know,

(01:09:08):
the crust, just the crust onthe outside of the loafer bread and they've
got the whole thing. Uh,it's just to let them release. And
for whatever reason, there's there's gotto be something big time that they're just
not wanting to let go. Idon't I don't think they're worried about our

(01:09:29):
religion or you know, if we'regoing to panic, there's something going on
that they're sitting on this globally forall these years. Well, I think,
um, just through because of myown experiences and prior to to you
know, sources you know like bischardato trust very much. At the end
of the day, something very simpleand very human. It's just simply uh,

(01:09:53):
the control, the control of thenarrative, you know, because if
you look at every politician or theway things are set up, Um,
in order for them to be lookedat as somebody to look up to or
listen to, everything has to comethrough them so that we go to them
and listen to them about whatever itis saying. It's not until they reveal

(01:10:15):
something then it's true. Until theyreveal something, then that's when we should
pay attention to. And that isthat the general issue that I've personally experienced
myself is that this thing, andI'm often discussed in this way, that
when contact happens, there will notbe you know, a man, woman,
or child on the planet and noteven a rock that will not be

(01:10:38):
aware that contact has occurred. Youknow. That's that's how powerful this this
is, you know. And um, that's what I just, based on
my experience, is what I foreseehappening. You know, it's not something
because right now we can still go, well, you know, I'm not
into this because so many people evento this day, it's like, hey,
um, I heard about this yourfour stuff. You're into that thing,

(01:10:59):
right, you know, I sawthis article or whatever. I'm like,
you live on the same planet.If I'm not mistaken, Like,
why is it my thing? Likeyou live you too? You know,
It's like why why is this onlyyou know, a a niche that only
eye cover and you are above itall? Did you know? I was?
I didn't feel insulted. I'm justtrying to understand the psychology behind all
of that. There's there's definitely powerin secrets. Um. You know,

(01:11:26):
traditional religions have realized that. UM, I agree they're they're using it for
control for whatever reason, it's goingto be interesting. And uh, you
know, it's odd that some ofthese crafts are certainly making themselves known and
they are evidently picking up people,and you know, I hear about abduction

(01:11:48):
stories, and um, you know, I wonder what the government thinks about
that. Are they they ticked that, you know, they're showing themselves to
people or is that a part ofthe plan. Um, I don't know.
I don't know. I got Igot a thousand more questions and answers
right well, you know, didinterviews with a lot of people that that

(01:12:09):
you know, have stories and opinionsfrom that perspective too. You know,
just what the government knows and andthe programs they were involved with and and
you know still continue to this dayand ask this article that I talked about,
you know, mentions. But anyway, I don't know, David,
I guess just like I said,stick around another ten years. It would

(01:12:30):
be it would be thrilling to see. I plan on doing that. I
certainly will take my vitamins they andhang around and watch the news. Right
well, David, thank you verymuch so much. No, thank you
from the bottom of my heart.I'm glad you're able to connect and work
it out. I'm sorry you hadsome difficulties with telegram, but you're sounding

(01:12:54):
great, which is always perfect forany kind of recording. Great, thanks
so much. Okay, nice talking. Yeah, yeah you did care.
Don't be a stranger. Okay,bye bye bye bye. All right,
let's see here. All right,Well that was that was David. Thank
you very much. David. I'mglad we connected and UM because last time

(01:13:16):
when I originally had planned to havean open line where I had to cancel
last minute. UM, that's whenUM he was wanting to UH was reaching
out and wanted to come on totell the story and it didn't work out.
But hey, it all works outlater on. UM. Let me
see here. Welch, we wehave here. If there's anyone else that
would like to connect, please doon telegram or ask your question using three

(01:13:40):
asterisks in any of them chats thatare going on right now, whether it's
on YouTube, Twitch, UM,Facebook, or Twitter. UM. He's
a welcome. I saw earlier youyou wrote that you had your UM,
your UM operation. I'm glad itworked out. I'm glad you were able
to to walk now that that makesme happy. So I'm hoping just whatever

(01:14:06):
ailment it brought to you that justyou overcome quickly and just keep on living
your life without any hindrance. Leslie, great show, and then thank you
for Leslie. I appreciate it,Thanks for watching. And um, I
don't often say it, but ifyou guys find this worth the while and
maybe someone else might want to seeit, make sure you like and share,

(01:14:29):
subscribe to the channels. So Idon't usually usually go through those requests,
but if you have some time,it won't hurt all right. Well,
so we have here Bradley. IBradley. I haven't seen you in
a while as well, Bradley sinceSouth Africa, if I'm not mistaken.

(01:14:50):
What question you have? You haveyou covering the hearing this weekend? Um?
I know there was a hearing lastweek from NASA, but I don't
know if there was one coming upabout something. If you can give me
more info, i'd appreciate it.Um se r pop Rocks as can you

(01:15:11):
talk about Dolores Cannon and Sherry right? I don't know Sherry right, but
I don't know what specifically you wantto know about Dolores Cannon. I met
her on a few occasions, andbefore I guess for La Betty were joined
the family because my mum, mywife, is basically her granddaughter. And

(01:15:39):
so by the time I came around, lawyers said that Fortunary passed away,
so I didn't get to know herin that way, but I did several
interviews with her and a little bitof time that I did spend with her.
Just a great, great lady allaround. Okay, let's see what

(01:16:02):
else we got here. Edward hasjoined. Welcome Edward. Okay, Well,
if there's no other questions and noone else wanting to join Telegram to
share the story, I guess wecan let this be it, and so
I'm hoping you check out some ofthe information we covered earlier. Re listen

(01:16:25):
to David's story. Very amazing.I'm glad I was able to talk to
him and you were hearing what Iwas hearing for the very first time.
So it's I've always heard about manypeople I've seen that event, but never
talked to someone who was actually therethat close, and so I appreciate him
taking the time to come on andtalk to me about that very much.

(01:16:49):
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(01:18:18):
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talk about already had one strike,I think, well two one didn't take
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(01:19:24):
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(01:20:10):
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