UH-OH Conversations with Cohesive Leaders

UH-OH Conversations with Cohesive Leaders

Hear real-time stories from leaders confessing their most crucial or recent "UH-OH" experiences in business. Learn what their "UH-OH" cost them, steps they took to fix it, and how they planned not to "do that one" again. Hosted by Dr. Troy and Ben-Jamin Toy.

Episodes

June 3, 2025 36 mins
In this episode of UH-OH Conversations with Cohesive Leaders, hosts Dr. Troy Hall and Ben-Jamin Toy sit down with Ryan DuBois, a laid-back endurance junkie with a sharp business mind and a heart for people. From scaling up startups across the Southeast to spending 20-hour days in the trenches of manufacturing, Ryan brings a no-fluff, deeply human perspective to what leadership actually looks like when the pressure is on.
Ryan opens ...
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In this episode of UH-OH Conversations with Cohesive Leaders, Dr. Troy Hall and Ben-Jamin Toy sit down with culture renovator and strategic coach Akeela Davis for a raw and powerful discussion on purpose, pivoting, and what happens when success no longer aligns with your values.
Akeela shares her “OH” moment: the hard decision to sell a thriving financial advisory business she spent over 15 years building. On the surface, it was a s...
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In this episode of UH-OH Conversations with Cohesive Leaders, Dr. Troy Hall and Ben-Jamin Toy sit down with Chris Bower, CEO of Endurance Federal Credit Union, for a candid, straight-shooting conversation about what it really takes to lead well.

Chris opens up about his leadership evolution, from a task-first, empathy-later mindset to recognizing that truly effective leadership means caring about the whole person. He shares lessons ...
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What happens when your gut tells you something’s off but you don’t act on it? In this episode of UH-OH Conversations with Cohesive Leaders, Cynthia Campbell joins Dr. Troy Hall and Ben-Jamin Toy for a powerful and personal conversation on leadership, intuition, and the hard lessons that come from hesitating at the wrong time.

With two decades of experience in the credit union world and a new chapter as founder of Soul Path Leadershi...
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What happens when you realize you’re just another number in a company? How do you turn career setbacks into leadership breakthroughs? In this episode, Dr. Troy and Ben-Jamin Toy sit down with Michael Lounsbury, a published author, HR consultant, and former military professional, to explore self-confidence, career growth, and the power of knowing your value in the workplace. Michael shares two major "Uh-Oh" moments, one as an employ...
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In this dynamic episode, Dr. Troy and Ben-Jamin Toy dive into a conversation with Anne Legg, founder of Thrive, to discuss her journey in leveraging data and AI to drive organizational success. Anne shares how her career in credit unions, consulting, and AI-driven projects has shaped her leadership style. She opens up about the challenges of corporate acquisitions, the importance of adaptability, and how she turned setbacks into op...
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In this transformative episode, Dr. Troy and Ben-Jamin Toy sit down with Ben Marley to discuss his personal and professional journey through faith, failure, and leadership. Ben shares his experience with Prep Monsters, a venture that ultimately failed due to missteps, but provided critical lessons on discernment, partnership, and the cost of pursuing passion without proper planning. He highlights how aligning work with one’s purpos...
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In this eye-opening episode, Dr. Troy and Ben-Jamin Toy welcome Dr. Mike Gilbert, founder of Remnant Leaders, to discuss his journey through personal trauma, faith struggles, and leadership transformation. A former 911 dispatcher, pastor, and Army veteran, Dr. Mike shares how a life-altering crisis exposed his transactional approach to leadership and relationships. Through faith, accountability, and a shift toward selfless service,...
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In this empowering episode, Dr. Troy and Ben-Jamin Toy sit down with Charlynda Scales, a multi-faceted entrepreneur, veteran, and author, to discuss her journey of leadership, resilience, and meaningful connections. From founding Mutt's Sauce and OH Taste Marketing to co-founding the 6888 Kitchen Incubator, Charlynda shares how her Air Force training and military values shaped her leadership style. She opens up about overcoming per...
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In this powerful episode, Dr. Troy and Ben-Jamin Toy are joined by Brett Wooden, a software strategist passionate about digital transformation for small credit unions. Brett opens up about a critical mistake he made while launching a kids’ financial education app without approval, leading to legal and relational consequences. He shares how this experience reshaped his approach to leadership, collaboration, and innovation. Focusing ...
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In this insightful episode, Dr. Troy and Ben-Jamin Toy dive into a conversation with John Spruill, former Tesla leader and seasoned entrepreneur, about leadership, innovation, and the lessons learned from his career. John shares a pivotal mistake, investing in a risky, unproven crash-testing asset, and how it shaped his approach to decision-making, risk, and trust. Reflecting on his journey, he emphasizes the power of servant leade...
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In this transformative episode, Dr. Troy and Ben-Jamin Toy sit down with Amy Herbig, founder and CEO of the BA Group, to discuss her inspiring journey from radio to entrepreneurship. Amy shares how working mothers and women supporting women fueled her drive to create the BA Group, a consultancy designed to help credit unions and community banks thrive. She opens up about the importance of self-confidence, mentorship, and a strong w...
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In this compelling episode, Dr. Troy and Ben-Jamin Toy talk with AI innovator and entrepreneur Darrel Q. Bruce about his journey of resilience, leadership, and technological breakthroughs. From costly mistakes in business to building AI-driven learning tools, Darrel shares the hard-earned lessons that shaped his approach to success. He reveals the power of authenticity, strategic communication, and balancing ambition with meaningfu...
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In this inspiring episode, Dr. Troy and Ben-Jamin Toy sit down with Ryan Cass at the Cohesion Culture™ headquarters to discuss his journey of service, leadership, and personal growth. Ryan shares how his Breaking Ribbons initiative has combined ultra-marathons with fundraising to support families affected by cancer. He also talks about his mentorship work, professional role at Boeing, and his “One Day” coaching brand. Through momen...
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