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Good afternoon. Once again here incoffee with quijote and today we have a
guest who reads them tremendously and willtell us why. But today we have
the great Luis Gi who we aregoing to check that it is no good
afternoon, Luis and how I aman Ia, but yes, now you
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think I am not, but Iwant to, I thought I am.
I mean, we' ll seeabout that, we' ll see about
that. Hey, nice to haveyou here, Lui, already and it
' s already, it' s, it was, I wanted, uh,
I wanted there, saying to seewhen they call me for the super
mega ultra interview this pussy. Well, well, we' ll see,
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we' ll see first of all, start here, we' ll go
a little deeper into who Luigi orLuis No was before we got here and
we' ve known where you starta little bit since childhood. You can
go back to wherever you want.I' m a fantasy computer. I
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' m if you define me somethingthat I' m a computer technician,
a FP computer technician. But beforeI was a FP informational technician, I
had a Mega Drive, a videoconsole, and since nobody bought me a
computer, I sold it to buyme an astraump of these five- quarters
that had no hard drive. Sothen, let' s say that my
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passion for computing started, because Iwanted to be a programmer, to program
video games. Obviously, I mean, I sold the Mega Dra. There
for me to program video games andI started with basics and all that move.
Then I got into high school,I learned coble c and programming language
and of course the dream was tobe programmer, to be computer, but
I had always wanted to be theentrepreneur, or I wanted to be a
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cartoonist, or I wanted to knowa lot of good things, but I
mean you' re saying a lotof programmer entrepreneur drawing things. First you
started with the so- called youhave always liked the always- fucking-
priced video games yes, they didgive me the little machine here and I
already have it. Yes, ofcourse. I was run over at six
years old for thinking about the Goldein ae uncle i mean, I started
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a trip a ta so I wentwith a bottle of these that you would
return it and give you money.I was in front of the bar and
there was the Golde de nase andthe ice cream thing, and then I
was thinking about this something. Thesetwo bottles were liters. Imagine I was
very small and it was going tobe I' m going to spend money
on the machine. I' mgoing to buy a frigo of those,
a pooeye cold leaves that' sgoing to be several six hard or that
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were twenty- five pesetas or thirtypesetas. I was thinking about that.
Look, I was thinking about that. I took a step and mei turned
out like that catapumba, there wasa bottle and I flew out and I
saw myself on the floor and Icouldn' t move from fear. You
know, but nothing happened to me. I don' t know if it
was the scare. Nothing happened toyou, no, no, no,
I wasn' t more scared orthe cab driver than I was, of
course, the man speaking for him, that I' m here as a
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flon the poor, sir, alittle boy who had given him a trip
and took me to the hospital.Or I had nothing on the glass wounds
and that' s it. Inthe end I' m already out of
polo and not playing exactly, butwell, after the years, because I
caught the machine this one. Whatgood, yeah, what good? Well,
I already you wanted to be acartoonist, or that you already have
to want to be programmed, Whetheryou want to be always of everything,
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that is, always wanted to bean entrepreneur, programmer, designer, that
is, everything, from everything,that is to say, I haven'
t wanted to do everything, inventor, that is, It started being invented,
then a cartoonist, then an entrepreneur, a video game programmer. But,
well, in the end, alittle, like I do, I
mean, in the end you gotto do it, because basically yes,
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I mean, I' m notan entrepreneur to have employees, of course
I have, but I don't feel like that in employees. I
am now autonomous, because what hasalways been best for me in the last
twelve years, that I am autonomousfrom the being of ats. It'
s always been to be alone andget to be at that level, to
make up for my salary without havingto have employees. And then, then,
it gives me a level of freedom, because when you have employees,
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in the end you also have tothink about such. But it has the
counterpart that you don' t thinkabout growing, growing, growing, that
is, if you want to growmore, obviously you need employees, but
the level that I have of salary, freedom and such is good enough to
give me freedom. For BA projectsas I call it clear now linking,
the VE project and the teddy bearthing is now in linkin. Then we
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' ll talk about how to growup or what else that interests me to
know, but a little bit thenyou' re the Trumps and already in
high school you drew. Yeah,but I was leaving it all. I
was leaving him since I put thesocial pressure on him. Let' s
just say it leads you to saygood. I want to stop being a
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freaking and I want to know butyes, yes, yes, yes,
any social pressure yes because look,I don' t know, I don
' t know. I saw alot of social pressure against me Look,
I was just playing role- playinggames and I was creating my own manuals.
But in that moment I lost alittle perspective of who I am of
creativity and so and so do alittle bit to go from you know and
to stop being yourself for several years, that bond in which you stop being
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you to invent a personality that hasnothing to do with who you were then
you lose a little creativity and youdedicate yourself to being a person to try
to adapt, that is, toflirt, to fool, to be cool
and you are not the person thatyou have to do. It' s
true. Then it' s likeyears, you say shit. I'
m this and this is what I' m dot, is that he likes
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it well, the one who doesn' t fuck with him you know so
clearly. When you realize that,well, I' ll do it a
little later. Then I realize thatwhat I' m doing is my projects,
I mean that moment when you're alone being free, nobody tells
you what to do, you're in your own house and you say
good, and now that I'm fucking. But I' ve been
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thinking about drawing a comic book allweek for example, and also because I
' m a twenty- one-year- old real estate man and I
basically screwed up, I mean,it was literally one of the few fools
that, like in mobility, thatmess that I set up for money,
for the bill metal. When youride something for my metal, it has
no foundation, just for money,money, money, and I wasn'
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t really motivated. The only monteovar. Well, then, having money,
that is, what happens you ruinyourself, because of course you don'
t do it wrong, the moreor less good thing, what happens is
that I took the part of partychicks at twenty- one I didn'
t have I see kids. Nowthat I see them super centered. It
also has a lot of information tobe focused on that I, for example,
did not have instead of twenty-one years ago, i e I
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am forty- two. Well,twenty- one years ago. That information
may not have been available. Atleast I didn' t know how to
be her. So it' slike I' ve never really known English,
that' s the English language totalk to Logitis in Malaga, no
more or less. I didn't mind looking for information on YouTube in
English or on English pages. Thenwhat' s wrong with you. I
can. You want to be anentrepreneur, but not an entrepreneur I wake
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up to so many in the morning, I start to work not that you
are the nice part of series topress and say I am companies look I
go with tie, I earn moneyand it is not so. And that
' s like when I wanted togo to college, here I already law
college, but what the hell doesit mean to get to college, that
is you want to study what youwant to study or really the only thing
you want to go to college,because you' ve been in the head
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of the American series since you werea kid, what do you want to
go to college? You' refucking with me. It' s not
like that, that' s notyour life. The same thing about being
an entrepreneur is not that I wantto have money and I want to go
cool and people see that I havea place and I don' t,
I mean, I mean, theneverything that' s like that you fall
for money, by appearance. You' re gonna fuck up fast, easy,
because life has a point of reality. That' s what I call
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the reality filter, that in yourhead all in one way, and then
the reality, is that it's totally different, even when you'
re not preparing a shit and you' re going to crash that experience pretty
sure. And that' s whatthere is. But when you' re
ready and you' re up toit, you' re fucking saying what
happened here,' cause you've got more than islanding the next one.
You' ll have to shine thinneragain and you' ll have to
shine thinner. And that happens tome in all my apprenticeships. That you
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get on, the movie, youget the mental straw, you get the
way things are going to be.And then you find that the reality,
because it is very hard, becausewhat I call the filter of reality estuality
hits you and you beat yourself evenby the edge, by the side,
by the angle that you least expected, that is, by a partner game
what you took for granted that itwas right and wrong and you put up
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with it, and that what goeson at that time I had no experience
of anything asking for a capital andthey ate me few, but I ate
a little and how and how,with twenty- one years you were studying
programming. Yeah, I left thecomputer, I left the computer, I
mean, I wanted it just tocall it pleasure, not because there came
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a moment that I said fucked upI' ve been as a computer all
my life and I want to leavethe computer. I don' t know,
it seemed a little weird to beall fucking day depending on a machine,
a typical one you' re not19 years old or so and you
' re saying" fuck" Andof course, you' re starting to
use it for four things, andat that point I' m going to
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leave the computer aside, not thecomputer itself or use it to communicate with
me, I used it to passGilipolences, but at that point I said
I' m not going to studyanything else and go over computer because I
wanted there to be more. Imean, I didn' t want to
depend back then I said I don' t want to depend on a machine.
I don' t want my lifeto be flat on a machine.
But of course, I already hada baggage and I had a tour,
so when you' re already ruined, I came here to Catalonia, to
live twenty years ago, now it' s going to be twenty years and
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my sister tells me listen stop thenonsense. You already have the computer title,
you have the fp pussy here computerwork, look for the information life.
Stop fooling around now and, ofcourse, I got back into computer
fog and I started working as aninvigorating programmer but to see you took a
very big leap that I am interestedto know. I was asking you that
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at twenty- one years old youleave a little bit in computer science and
why you get to make an immobile. Yeah, you have no idea.
No. No, because not becauseI' ve been working a couple of
years with a cousin of mine who' s a lawyer in his office and
of course and you' re alreadyout there avoiding writing. And so what
happens that someone already stopped working withmy cousin and I got into real estate,
a real estate company in my neighborhoodand I went in there. You
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said sell a flat, but it' s very easy. I mean,
he doesn' t have any kindof me coming from a law firm.
I' ll be a couple ofyears watching what' s moving and going
to score and going to the administrationbecause I had to run errands. And
this is selling a flat, Imean, it was a little mixing the
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two years that I was there spinningaround that I was there, let'
s say, really silly. But, well, in the end, you
get the glass of how things work. And then I put you in a
real estate store and he, thefurniture, I said hey and this is
nothing, I was nothing less aproject to fuck up. I' ll
ask for the money myself and I' ll take it. I' m
gonna be here working for nobody,I mean, it doesn' t make
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sense. If I can do thiswithout the need of this guy, I
mean, the man taught me withall his goodness, let' s say
the trade, but he didn't give me any time, so I
went in and said,' causeI got on top of it for me
and that was your moment and itwasn' t that easy. No,
no, no, no, no, I sold floors I sold floors.
The thing is, it' swhat I' m telling you the problem
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wasn' t in the business andI moved him about what you are.
As a matter of fact you've been, as a matter of fact
you know how to manage yourself,as a matter of fact you' re
suddenly going to have been all yourlife poor and you see that you'
ve never had a boy and yousee yourself at best with the money of
some commissions and that what he doeswith twenty- one years, if you
never manage money, if you never, then you leave, you party,
man and you spend it. Andthe first four or five months were complicated.
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But then, of course, everytime I took money, I spent
it. I mean it' swhat happens, I mean it' s
the dumbest way. That' swhere you learned, and then, after
fucking shit. What do you doafter the real estate, you return to
the infarct again. Yeah, Ididn' t come here to Catalonia.
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At first I got into a factory, one, got into a delater,
in a country, then I wentto you in a factory and then I
was looking for any work, lookinguntil I got the computer scholarship and well,
it takes the best a year.Here I got a computer scholarship,
a code programmer and well, itwas great, because I met a lot
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of people in the covid world Ialready went into a scholarship company and a
year later I' ve already changedanother company a little bigger, and I
' ve been programming banking and insurancefor five years. So you, when
banking and insurance programs, because apartfrom falling is programmer, you already have
to think about databases you know andthat, well, that' s what
has given me a very powerful expertiseand then when it comes to digital marketing.
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And why then you changed the digitalmarketing, which is the next question.
Ectively, because the two thousand nine, of course anyone you know who
is engaged in banking programming that doesnot have extreme anxiety to itself, that
is because you put yourself there fabricatinga green screen to program a thing that
you do not see because you thatI have program that was backend, that
is to say that it is thepart that is not seen of whether the
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international charging programs and their nation thatI neither were going nor coming to me
no, that is to say theywere talking to me there and I that
I have td BRO was boom boomlike Homer with the Moors, does not
hear Luisito, you can do thisand I was explaining it so because if
this makes such a table, Idon' t know what and it was
like, but what you' retelling me, man or I mean,
I said. But my God,this man is talking to me and they
' re not fucking me, butabsolutely nothing. Sure, then, as
you' re doing the show,it came to you a detail of what
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this man had already told you clearlyand I of course was that I didn
' t read the documentation there,because it was that I didn' t
find out, that is, theysaid no Hostia is that I go further
what the technical topic is. Wealready assume that everyone knows the program.
So it' s technical, easyto program, that is, but well,
for the functional part we don't explain it. Holy shit.
This was complicated because I don't know why it' s a big
company. The functional part doesn't explain it to you? If the
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part of the bank, the operativesdon' t explain it to you,
of course you think that I,at the age of twenty, I'
m going to look at the operationof a bank on top of which I
have tda, that is, Iwant to fuck up, that is,
there was no way that, Imean, I would get into that and
I would say but there' sno one who would read it, man
I mean, it was like youknow, how to try to get in.
Yeah, man, I can't get a simile out, but
it was like total rejection. Ofcourse they explained to you, come the
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sites on. I wanted to explainthe program. But why this does not
know what. I started and Ithought shit. I feel homer without a
pgram the t of. So theykind of threw me in my head,
you know, and I heard BLA? BLA? BLA? BLA? BLA?
BLA? BLA? Bla? Bla? Bla? Because when I'
m of blah, blah, blah? Bla? And I was like a
mother of God, Uncle, Idon' t know about this, Uncle,
and of course there, because theyhad me for payment maleantes and for
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total leave, because on top ofthat I already arrived a moment that you
don' t care about and Ialready started to take an interest in digital
marketing, because some family of mine, but beyond, more specifically in Seo
yes, because a relative of minehad a business and suddenly with seo I
hit that impressive. So what happensthat I, as I started to buy
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books and I saw, I analyzedthat web as it was from a relative,
because I started to look at theone from Pepa. There wasn'
t a time when the guy askedfor more money, asked for twice as
much monthly money, but there weretwo hundred. He asked for four hundred
and I said" fuck" andsaid" no," that they would
not give him any more money"And the guy came and if he cut
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even lazy, he loaded the sitemap and file robots, that is.
That did not and of course Iwas watching, I saw the change and
I made a screenshot and I warnedthe turkey by email. He said he
heard I saw you did this.They' re relatives of mine They have
children. Thanks, they don't want to pay you, okay,
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but you did this and I justgot you. My family didn' t
like me doing that, to takethe, let' s say the license
to do it, but I sawmyself in the and the guy didn'
t answer me or anything, Imean, but I caught him infraganti messing
it up and at that time Isaid pussy or something I have to know,
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because if I' ve seen thisand there I already started to try
things and do good a page mademe buy a person I' m dedicated
to testing. One of the timesI tried textile I bought a T-
shirt printing machine, but they weren' t cotton, but they were from
the other material of the Poliaster sportsmanand I couldn' t get it to
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run a printer like this here,but tuned you know they were putting a
thing in to have that kind ofink for and then you had a plate
and that didn' t get thehang of it. But of course,
if without a very web page,a web page very well positioned in those
times two thousand nine, if youknew a little bit, if so you
positioned the first and weight to enterme orders and such and since I could
have been a total triumph, Imean, even while ten thousand orders of
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t- shirts to see and yousee that I tell him how to already
put me to make messi t-shirts you know, but you got stuff
from these and that if as ifhe says, farewell of bachelors, communions
and moves of these, that whathappens is that it is that since it
did not go well not even asingle t- shirt, well fuck to
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be the subject or it was bitter. It' s also that I was
the typical goose bumper. I usedLinux at the time of two thousand nine
using Linux and using someone instead ofusing Photoshop by means of the stubbornness that
clear color treatment there was a problem. Nor did I at that time end
that of understanding there was also noinformation that is now. Also now it
is that he tells the room alreadyhears such or temente shrinks. There are
many more forums and two thousand nineI did not find the relative information and
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apart from the typical stubbornness that Idid not want to use photoshop and that
surely with photoshu would have come out, but look at the hearing it makes
no difference. Now I see itand I say" Holy" how this
topic is going to be. Ifreally, if there were, I would
simply have removed that block from thehead. I had a business there,
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not because I already had the page. It was being able to position.
He just got here. It's like all of a sudden you get
ahead of a bunch of people thathave been years and suddenly you' ve
missed it, you smell it andclear I also work how I worked,
I still had the debt, thereal estate, I didn' t dare
any more to say shit. Sowhen you take off the debt, that
one from the real estate company andyou start to really see that they'
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re wrongly free and so on.When you' re saying" fucking hell,
" now it' s my turnto put me back on my own
again. And so that was twoor three years later, that is,
those two three years, because fromtwo to two thousand twelve, because I
was a little bit like in anegg not there quarantined studying seo studying something
from Google Ads. But I wassort of quarantined not and I was seeing,
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but of course it was like Iwant and I can' t wait.
I' m saying if I getfired, I' ve got anything
at once. And in the end, of course at two or three years
old, because I got fired andwell the guy told me, but very
happy, happy fuck if you're firing me, I mean, but
we' re firing you already.You' re gonna give me the finicito
to go tomorrow, tomorrow. Thenext day I was already working. For
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me, I mean, next timeI was already working. I didn'
t stop one day, I mean, it wasn' t what you say
I' m wearing, I hopeI' ll get a vacation, I
don' t mean, I wantedto be so autonomous that I didn'
t take a day off. Thenext day I was fired and I'
m in a hurry. I wasalready working, I already got clients and
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of course, from day to day, with quite success, because I worked
quite well in the son at thattime it was the typical one, because
look that I had killed a lot, I had bought many books, I
had cosme, all the information thatI could and besides there was some web
programming not like now that I knowa lot more. Obviously, and there
I was already starting to work withPHPMSQUL. I had it a little bit
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like that that that year, twothousand twelve, but I was being the
first to do full stack. It' s that when CSSHTML, Java,
Script, MASQL and PHP, let' s say it gives you a perspective
when you do a project of allthe languages together, so to speak,
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that they give you for now.There are many more languages now and things
I haven' t learned, thatI should learn. But, well,
more than that, I' vealways been pulling. With that going down,
and then right there, you're starting to have customers and working
well. And to say well,then this of course? Sure, at
first, because I was selling websites, selling websites, but the next year
I said I wouldn' t preferto sell what leads are. You know
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I work for leads, especially aniche of home repairs, and that'
s what I' ve been doingfor years and alive from the leads I
' ve been able to produce.If I don' t produce, I
don' t get paid and bynow, twelve years later, it'
s a subject that really doesn't motivate me, obviously for reasons that
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is, obviously if they were verycreative. This thing is always jack horse
and king It' s always prettymuch the same you' re getting better
because things evolve, ctas evolve,cope brighting evolves before there wasn' t
now there is you have here adaptingand improving. No, for example,
at the time when there were noresponsible things, to that everything was accountable
You are at the level of programmingpassing from the absolute positions of CSS or
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the floating ones, to the displaythat are respolsive or, for example,
before CC already six gray, whenit changes, in two thousand fourteen,
two thousand fifteen I changed and nowI use it, I use the flex
system that I have no idea ofwhat is good. They are philosophies of
how you are going to reposition thepictures on the page, on the device
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already, you have no more,but you have to adapt to that type
of changes. You have to adapt. Then I have the difference that I
normally program everything from scratch. Thathas its benefits and has its take longer,
you don' t use templates,work press, or anything. But
it gives you to play with theliquid and gives you to make other ideas
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and evolve things that you usually don' t see. That' s where
you know organizational ideas or, well, things that you can think of doing
to test and test and that gowell. For example, you put in
four different texts of copy brighting andyou let there be a hundred views for
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each text and the one that hasthe most conversion that stays afterwards is worth,
for example, and the automatic tests, that is, you put in
four texts, testo one, two, three and four. In this case,
for example, the one won wasthe one, the one beat,
that is, the one for ahundred visits had a good record, the
two had half, the three hadmuch less and the four had nothing.
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And when he got back to theone. Well, I' ll get
up again and get the flight up, because you can be four copies of
four different automatic angles. You knowthe programs like that, and it'
s already happening. In addition,it can be done with plantings or with
raising. I don' t knowif you can do it with practice.
I was probably programming it myself asa third party with PHP. Okay,
it was a record and it's going to a whatsapp, a call.
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It is recorded in the database andwhen it reaches the point of the
visit to 500. It seems tome that it is because he already chooses
he who has best merged and isa punctuation. You know tested. You
' ve done a B test ora D test sometimes BCD. Sure,
and it worked for you. Imean, the three is when I say
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hostile three that the three is wrong, but it' s that the four
was fatal, so it was likefucking and clear I put like four four
different angles of the same thing youknow for repair issues and the one already
merged as a client with whom Iwas technicating trust, because we' re
going to be this. If yousee it doesn' t work, wait,
we' ll give him some room. And when I get to the
visit, we see how much youcan give Marge to him, because I
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always listen to that not I puta hundred visits, a hundred vic but
I mean a hundred visits because I, as always I hear that the seo
is debatio. I' m nottalking about s I' m talking about
Google ats a okay. I'm talking about gels. I' m
talking about Google to direct search,direct search niche repairs, direct search,
so Google aps. If you doa direct search campaign for any niche,
if you do stand up you shouldhave a high conversion, because we'
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re talking about that it' snot a sale, it' s a
lead a budget request or which isn' t a sale, a much more
complicated sale, because you have toexpect the guy to put the card,
but that a guy has a whatsappto call me to send you an email
fill out a form, which isthe four, the four typical forms of
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contact. The truth is that youdon' t need to try a lot,
so with a traffic of ten peopleor twenty people, and more or
less later you realize whether that hasconversion or not, because it looks,
that is, because if you havezero conversion, you' re making it
fatal. If you have one,you have to check two. But of
course, as you' re havingthat very much harder of two to three
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to get four of years and youalready realize that there' s a part
of the funnel in which something isn' t working well, that it can
be or that you don' tchoose the start keywords, that the angle
of sale isn' t good,that the chants are bad on the promise,
if there are missing details like testimonialsor some kind of awards and recognitions,
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or a photo that' s wrongon or the copy I mean.
It can be a lot of factors, but you know that out of every
ten visits, that' s howit' s direct search. It'
s very clear. It' snot like another type of days visitors,
you can already say here there issomething, or with twenty you can already
know where the shots go, thatis, and they get pictured with without
already taking a good data to knowwhat there is, that is to say
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you can test it very quickly.It' s not like they say.
For example, I no longer doa goal campaign and let it work three
days the goal campaign good, butit is that with Google aups direct search
for a specific service. I don' t know, man I think I
usually do it pretty fast. No, I don' t wait that long,
because that' s pretty much alreadyfelt when something works, it'
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s not that working from cimer youwait less than three days and so much
so that' s that the secondthird day you' ve already seen it
clear whether it' s working ornot, because it' s that you
' ve been looking straight or thatit' s you. If you'
ve done the search for keywords rightand you don' t have any kind
of negative keyword that you have itopen, it' s just that it
' s very clear when you're doing it right or it' s
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not that you don' t needto leave it for two weeks, what
the fuck, man, you don' t need it, so if you
' re a little bit too busy, you already have one as if it
' s a hundred percent, youhave one or two or three calls,
or two or three whatsapps, becauseyou already know it' s working well,
or it' s ten visits orfour you know how to see you
spend four, that' s doingit all very well. But if I
would tell you, I' mcoming in from ten clicks, calling in,
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or three calls, imagine. Youknow you' re doing something right
there, of course, but you, for example, are recommending, or
well, I feel it' sbetter. You have a client who has
networks. No, for example,I know on Instagram is everyone without Instagram
and you see better that I do, for example, advertising on Google Ats
than on Instagram. I' mgoing to give you a very clear example,
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i e, it' s goingto this persiona from here once a
client his me listen we' regoing to do a Google Ats campaign to
fix blinds. But we did agoogle ace campaign to rule Persiana. Every
morning he was called two or threePersian fixes and two or three missed two.
He closed two, that is,he closed two. That' s
right, I mean, the guycalled it and closed it, so it
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' s cool for a day.We did test at goal okay and I
know like four or five different ads. You know, I like a lot
of creativity and it' s reallycool. Yes, a drawing that if
so, but there is a momentthat that did not throw at all and
you are welcome the mobile. Youknow how I taped the blind because the
more we just changed it. ThePersia in a new era and went up
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and down to look at it,as my Persianist fixed me, look at
me a joy, look how wellyou look then clear, that was viral
and the boy you that morning ofabout thirty calls. You know how much
he closed out of those thirty none, but that depends. Depends on what
it' s for. Okay,a lot of people already, which is
that I had done it thanks tothe video. And if google aps then
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it has that point where you knowyou' re looking for yourself, it
needs you, then, because youhave it, you have to see it.
There are niches you can' tattack. That' s impossible,
that' s at least I don' t get involved in those wars that,
for example, locksmiths, that islocksmiths or I buy gold I'
m really sorry, but I wasalready in those niches and I' m
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really sorry, but that someone tellsme listen to you and I' m
not sorry. I pass, I' m too old to get into these
stories, so I don' tcare, but in no case, but
I niche that they' re moresensitive. It also depends on the province
in which I have you find,because it changes a lot, It is
not the same working in Valencia,in Barcelona that in Cordoba, in Jaén,
that is, it is not thesame, because there is a competition
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much more fierce in one place thanin another. The cost per click is
much more expensive in one place thanin another there are many more people,
more and more people getting involved tryingto push for the same keywords and then,
well, you have to be tryingto be the best of those who
are there, not only in tryingto make the ad flashy and that people
come between that it is a goodcr but then, when they enter the
page, yours, have the CTAvery clear, the best copy possible and
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that they go in there and thatyou get the maximum in the end,
the maximum conversion that is in mycase, called whatsapps, forms or emails,
and what happens that if you getthat good, because those usually work
quite well. But of course,in the end he tries to try himself
the best that others, that youhave no other detail left in the account
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the load speed cta, that isclear, the copi the images, all
the image is, as always happens, that is, there are images nowadays,
it is easier to give you images. But, for example, in
series years or twelve years it tooka lot for someone to have an image
of their work. You have togo around looking for images that weren'
t yours and I don' tknow what. I don' t know
what to wear, because they didn' t give them to you and that
one hears. But they give pictures. Oh, yeah, yeah, I
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' ll give them to you tomorrow. We have not taken this week to
the House and now it is mucheasier to get images. Imagine, there
' s a lot more quality andbesides, now you understand a lot more
and you say Mira. He tooka picture from this angle because I like
it better. Or so I tellyou, you have to try to do
your best. Sure and well,now, while you' ve been,
you started with the seo and allthat, you' ve done more,
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because I knew that some venture youdid more than came out frog. Explain
to us a little that I havedone, made a lot, yes,
yes, one that was a strongtouch of tires, tires that I rode
as well as with a familiar andwell, that was very nice. At
first I was a year and ahalf working and well I left because I
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was no longer comfortable, I wasnot comfortable and I left, that is,
as I was with a relative andlook at step, I don'
t want to follow me, Iwant to dedicate myself and suddenly, I
got bored and I didn' tlike it. I wanted to go to
more too and we were a lotof people and of course, when you
' re with a lot of peoplethe circumstances that you don' t have
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that decision- making ability if you' re alone. And, well,
he was cute, because I usedthe bases of what I knew about that
database. You were connecting to differenttire suppliers. You put it all together
a few days ago with court,others days ago with a ftp other steelworks
for you sent an escell to theemail, you lied it a folder.
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Then they took the data, theywere the codes for each tyre and you
put it all in a database andcalculated the best price for that width,
that high the EAN code. Idon' t mean, what happens to
those, because I took the bestprices you had with a database. Interesting
and good that, because we wereat first selling a lot, but well
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we started to give shares or morepeople. So since they start getting a
little complicated because they' ve beena year and a half and they'
re not really giving you to livewhen you' re inflict yourself to work
from every day and of course,those I' ve positioned well. There
was a time when there was asupplier who was interested in me making a
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deal with him. You couldn't make the deal and that' s
when I said look through it,man, that, among other things,
I don' t know has donea lot of entrepreneurships, man, is
that every year I' ve beendoing something. The most important I'
ve ever done was DADIP, whichwas two or three years ago and it
was good. A program that allowsyou to do, that is for a
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cop or, for a designer,it' s fucking cool, because you
can do conversational adventures without programming.So you put a scene, you draw
a map and what it' scalled, example, a little house inside
a map, like it' sa role- playing game and then it
' s like you' re inthe first person. No, then you
have to go up, down andso and so I want right. And
then you can take the elements,you can mix the elements, you can
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move things. Then what happened youwere taking an inventory with the old conversational
adventures. Then you believe in thebest. Ten scenes with copy brighting a
good copi ten images, for example, you could make food at that time,
because no and you move, thenyou create that and then you create
a video game in the end.That was what I loved because I went
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out in microservants, which for mewas my web reference for many years talked
about it in microservants and in factI have it hanging there because it was
like a host. They talked aboutme organically, microservo. It was like
a reed. The thing is,look, I didn' t do it
right. There is the study ofthe ideal client, because I relied a
little bit on it, thinking thatit was the graphic designers who would freak
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out with the story, but notthat I really had class going into the
schools, a couple of schools thatused it and I should have put it,
put it easier to use for theschools, make it as cold as
it is for the schools. Andthose if it had worked. It is
true that those required many hours,many hours because I was just programming it
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and would have required me more perhapsor a partner or capital or because that
was a big idea and it wasvery enjoyable. I enjoyed doing many hours
of programming. But of course,when it' s going to be the
final fucking result is that when itstarted, for example, when they published
it in Mucro, serfs, Imade my own statistics and I saw how
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people played the game, the actionsthey were taking at every moment, because
that was being recorded and seen well, these people have achieved such a thing,
they have got a prize here andso and I saw people sticking up
to thirty minutes when a game,and that' s beautiful, man,
that is, because you allied thecommunity statistic to the person getting things,
trying what he was trying, notwhere he was failing and he was gorgeous.
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No, and why don' tyou go back to school now.
For example, I' ve thoughtabout it, I' ve thought about
it, what' s going onright now I don' t feel like
uncle itches right now and I'm going for what itches me now.
I' m with the bears,the style, the bears. Now let
' s go with that, becausein the bears you started and you left
it too. No, yes,but look. The bear thing, I
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hadn' t finished leaving it.I started about a peak year or two.
I wanted to look at making anonline store, making eighty little bears.
I was about 40 or so andsuddenly, because I didn' t
know what the hell I did.I don' t even study the client
and give here no and I saidit doesn' t matter another time.
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I do it and for whatever itwas okay, because I was getting pretty
high on Instagram the truth, butfor whatever it is, I went over
the subject and there' s nostandby and now I was thinking about setting
up a store. But there's a lot of people who said hey.
But, Uncle, why do thoseof the bears come back to us
and like the resurrected ones, forexample, the Linkedin that unknown pieces,
because it is known to me becausein every image you me a box,
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a bear that has cool No,because there are people who told me shit,
but take this again, Uncle,you don' t start from scratch
something. This looks good and thefeedback almost quite interesting with the bears and
I say well, because I'm going to use the bears now,
since they' re there. Theydon' t eat bread, they'
re known in quotation marks. Lookslike they' re good at people thinking.
Some think I do it with iada, others think I' m not
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the one who draws it. Butyes, I mean, the drawings are
clear, the pencil drawings and thenthe vectors, then the colors. And
it takes between ninety minutes and threehours to make each bear, that is,
ninety- three hours. Yeah,yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
Yeah? Yeah, because first pingonow we go then, since you
' ve talked about the bears andthat in Linkedin we talk about linkedime come
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on that he' s here afat guy where I met you and how
suddenly you got into Linkedin, howthe idea came up or how he instructs.
Bum Well, you start last summerI didn' t find TOPE from
i e health issues, I wasto PDD from cattle, i e,
nothing had happened from the time ofanxiety and so I found myself to P
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D from cattle and didn' tknow what it was like to support a
doctor and ask for it' sperfect from all hell, what' s
going on here. I didn't have a little bit of dysthymia,
not what happens when I pass atime of anxiety that is suddenly powerless.
You don' t want to,but you can' t have a lot
of projects, a being full ofprojects that Haser didn' t know which
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one to throw and he was likecattle. Not from these things that you
say I have no energy at all. And all of a sudden, I
went to look at myself to fuckthem up. Well, I did a
blood test and I looked and youget thyroid exactly because it' s a
lot of weight. I' vealways had weight problems. Not now,
I' m pretty good now,but the thing is, I' m
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gonna go and tell me I'm perfect, because we' re going
to the psychiatrist and, well,I' ve already had ADD prediagnosis.
I told him about TD and thatmy whole business, everything as I'
d been in my life, hadalways had problems with tdm Obviously, having
this idea started giving me the TDApill. And what did more than focus
that I broke the dystimia a littlebit, giving me a little extra desire
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and an extra to say shit andI took the first thing that was to
renew all my business, all thewebsites of my business, change them system.
That' s what I have tocomment on, system or flex to
retouch issues wishes and I was,well, six months with knife, that
is, without wanting other things.But what happens that in those moments,
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when I wanted to procrastinate, Idid the linkerin I had an account.
Have when David from when David's project of three years ago, but
I went in and it took time, I was also a couple of years
ago looking at things of friar bravoand so read me the emails of bravo,
I would dust them with a lotand then I saw people who knew
that linking and after that they hadhow to do things what happens that good.
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I would download all the fres,all the free pdfs and I would
dust them good. I got someprints out there and I used to say
fuck. It seems to me thatthis social network has something that' s
like affordable, not affordable. SoI started getting in when I got that
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I said I want to get innow for the bear thing, which wasn
' t bears. He influenced meand set me up in the online store.
I want to communicate better. Iwant to shoot myself on video.
Well, I spent money on videomaterial and I want to communicate better as
a copi because I thought I wrotewell, but I said fuck. But
then nobody likes what I write,man, I mean, it' s
like I don' t know,I see copy Brighders and how I write,
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I think I don' t writebadly, not and it was like
I didn' t have validation,no, and suddenly I say good.
I' m gonna be what thesepeople say. I' m not going
to hand out sugar that I don' t know what to want to throw
sugar is to tell people and giveit to like. I' m going
to be going little by little tolike it. I' m going to
go give it every day, I' m going to write a daily post
and I' m going to followthe link that happens and I' m
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going to go on and I knowwhat happens that I put myself to post
and at first a website you're going to do a little bit what
you see people do and I startedto realize that there were things that were
not necessary for me and that couldbe otherwise. And I started to compare,
to look at what no one did, which was to look at the
metrics, to start creating my srof metrics and to compare myself to copy
brithers. I saw that it saidwell, I dedicate myself to COPI and
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it said okay, but it tooka week or two weeks and I have
the same numbers as you who havebeen here a year and such at the
level of interaction and it was likehere there' s something that doesn'
t fit me no and suddenly yousaw that people who were doing that started
to double their numbers. You didn' t fit me in and I kept
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going and suddenly, because I wasevolving my way of writing to because I
' m going to use a cbecause I' m already being a calto
actions. If I don' thave a lette, I would say you
have to be in a hottie andof course people would see me going up
and I would say you have tobe in a nullata, but I would
say but what I want a listif I' m not going to be
here anything. I don' tsell anything here and I kept going up
and of course I started to thinkshit I' m going to be myself,
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I mean, I' m goingto say whatever I want instead of
going lying down, as I knoweveryone, and I started to kind of
glimpse a way of writing and away of doing it in Linkedin that was
pretty free between quotes and saying whatI wanted. But of course, as
he was making me, let's say freer and put what he gave
me. The win was going togrow. The count was growing, growing,
growing, And it' s notthat I have many followers, but
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what has much interaction, So ifa person with a thousand five hundred followers,
what more interaction has. That isbecause I' ve been comparing accounts
and fucking is that it' sbrutal and then I went up, going
up to such numbers, which isthat I don' t tell them the
anomaly, because they have no more. It' s logical. It doesn
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' t make any sense that hesays it' s because I saw a
lot of sugar whatever you want,but it doesn' t make sense.
My number doesn' t make sense. Even I can' t find her.
And this came to me a little, for all of a sudden and
now look suddenly. I know alot of people at Linkedin and then it
' s the one you met mefor, not the tragic movement. One
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that went viral, it wasn't what it was like, that is,
or it explains all that story,well, the stories that I was
going with my dog and I gotan email that three of them have come
together, because three came together andone said good. I' m going
to do this. I do thisand I' m fooled at this and
Hostia and I got to laugh,that is, she thanked me so much
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for why, because it' sthis one. I was with the dog,
I was relaxed, I read thisand I said Hostia and if I
deconstruct myself and I say it's not me, but it' s
three girls who are inside me andclear of first show it to him.
My wife was joking. It wasa parody of the post no and Hostia
told me you' re going toget into trouble with people you don'
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t even care about or come to. It' s good enough, but
I want to publish this thing you' ve done to me. Thank you
very much. I thought it wasfunny. Of course I went to sleep
and woke up as if typical,I have sleep problems and the inson I
don' t have it to startsleeping and if I have it and of
course I get up at 3:
00 in the morning. No, and (43:19):
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I got up all three or fourand I thought and shit, man,
because instead of kidding him, Imean it like this is for real.
And of course, I picked upthere and set up a pdf as presenting
the three girls as if they werereal faces created by artificial intelligence and saying
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that I was a lie. Andsince I, then, for that happened
what happened because I stretched, Istretched out my writing. I' d
never picked up a post before,and I' d retouched it so many
times. Of course those stretched,stretched, stretched, and when he published
that was more, it was aSunday, so if he had made Monday,
there would have been more of mestill was Sunday Mother' s Day.
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And well I was a bombard,but totally because there was someone who
wanted to hear. But if Italk, well, there are people who
have blocked me, people who dedicatedme post people who loved the story so
far. There are those people whostill believe it. That' s it.
And that' s when I metyou, not that we met,
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that' s when we met andnow we' re enemies, enemies,
enemies, and that' s thewhole history of vega. That was me
going out of his life. Butthat' s true, but that changed
my system a little bit because Ihad a lot of people who were like
really ugly with me and who hada really good relationship with me. And
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that, then, is to assemblea lot of friendships or colleges, to
link more friendships. Not people youthought was your buddy, who got mad
at me, but a lot ofpeople don' t want to be number
one. How about that, well, but if you' re trying to
sell me your courses here every dayand I don' t sell anything,
just saying that I' m beingcreated by other girls, that is,
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and I' m inventing this storythat I don' t think I killed
anyone or I haven' t done, it hasn' t come to anyone.
And well, they put me backand a half a lot of people.
Other people loved the story. Itgave me the opportunity to meet people
from the world of important creativity andwho are then my colleagues and who have
opened some impressive doors to me,because of course, that was an exercise
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of creativity that no one had yetdone in Linkedin. Saying that was like
shit and some people would tell me. This person doesn' t know what
he' s done with his profile. This person means this person was written
in stone. This is crazy.It' s not all right, but
what does it matter? It's a social network because you take it
so hard, that is, it' s okay, man, because I,
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because you think that people take thingson Linkedin very hard, that yes
and I also take them to heart. Depends on what he gave me and
so much so depends on what youtell me I can take it to heart,
it can piss me off. Ofcourse he can be angry, because
there are people who mean if youtell someone you don' t know,
who say good to you whatever youwant, I don' t care.
But when you already have a certainrelationship with someone and, instead of talking
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to you, they have a problemwith you and they dedicate a post to
you, that' s not nice. Man, even though that person already
has a relationship and the worst thatthere are many times not if it doesn
' t go for you, itdoesn' t go for my aunt to
the peel, you know it's not clear that it goes for you
and of course when you' rea person who plays like I say,
you go free. But there arealso posts that you think about publishing them
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because you feel the abyss of theherd. Feel the abyss that after publishing
that nothing is going to be thesame with you. There' s a
post you say" fuck" Thenwhat happens when you pollalize. So much,
there are many people who get angrybut instead of coming and telling you
in person, even if you havea relationship with them a couple of months
and that every day you interact withthem, they create a post and they
are very annoying. The truth isvery annoying. If you have a problem
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with me, tell me you don' t believe me a post uncle,
but people work like that and everythinggoes for post and or not. I
mean, before. I think weneed to talk about things. I'
m no saint. I also don' t want to say well try to
talk things over with everyone and tobe video calls, because it' s
how you know people with the videocall, at least since you' re
at a distance, at least makea video call and good vibe. But
if there' s the most annoyingthing is when someone who knows who dedicates
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a post and pussy to you becauseyou dedicate a post to me or tell
me I don' t know,and to me those things so they bother
me. Of course they bother,but the moment bothers me. Then go
on, man, I mean,no, not good, but you think
your posts are very polarizing. Withoutyou to pretend, no, without pretending,
I don' t mean, Idon' t know what I intend,
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of course not, man, man, yes, if you, with
all the consciousness of the world,are there and you go public publishing or
you don' t give anymore Iwon' t publish it. I'
m not publishing it anymore. That' s why I' m telling you
everything. Tomorrow' s the first. The interview will be out within x
three weeks, but it is alreadydoubted Saturday Sunday workshop. I' m
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not publishing it. I had videotapedmyself and I' m not going to
post it because, because it doesn' t add up to me, it
doesn' t add up to me, it can only create a problem for
me and now. Now I usedto go free of ctas because I don
' t, but now I alreadyhave a clear mark and it' s
a brand I' m creating inPublic Welling that you know and now I
have to be careful what I'm saying. So far I was free
and now I am no longer so, so, of course, and this
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can create me what I was goingto be. Yesterday I would have hit
a visitor' s high, Iwould have turned the insurance, because what
I' ve done is a verybeautiful program. But if this had created
a problem for me, but Imight have said look this far. Not
that I' m going to publishit because now is a time that Linkedin
has seen that you' ve grownup, that people are telling you a
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lot of things and then you've said oysters. Well, I'
m gonna go back to the teddybears. Not sure, and not only
that, but it was a wholemonth banned, that is, with a
ban that they say they weren't going, because if I believe there
is in fact I' ve seenthe statistics. It' s been a
month and she' s starting toclimb up and she' s going down
to pup because of the comment Iwas shocked by. I' ve been
pummeled by a pointless remark. Andif there' s a month that'
s been noticed and I put itsays thirty days for plamed comments, because
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or thirty days ago a cognazo,because you keep publishing, publishing, publishing,
breaking records in post, but stillyou didn' t see visits to
my profile, that is, myprofile wasn' t promoted in any case
And it' s been the thirtydays and again the profile has come back
up more than you see in thegraph and I knew, when it'
s gonna be a month that endedbecause I made it for you Linkedin himself.
So now comes a moment that yousay you think about it, because
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now what you don' t want, that is, if you start having
a brand. Now you have togo with your mark. There are things
that, as you think, Isaw growing the same way. I have
no doubt that growth will remain thesame. I don' t have,
I mean, I don' tneed to be so polarizing and don'
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t spend time with who deserves itor comics. Everything I' ve done
now has come out to win everything. But when you already have a mark,
I' m already going with mymark and now I can' t,
that is, a mark on myown little bears. And so that
now, then, I have tobe careful, because now what I have
to give is a communication let's say based on the onlinguet shop and
riding and that in the end youowe yourself to what it is. Your
bread as much as you want andit' s not that you say,
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it' s not that you loseauthenticity. Yeah, that' s great
authenticity, but it' s justthat now it' s not me,
I mean, now I' mgoing with a brand and if I go
with a brand, I can't decide come on let' s say
anything. I can' t playthis game now that I' ve got
the count all over again, Imean, no. Not now, I
mean before I didn' t careand fucked up for a whole month,
I mean, but now I don' t feel like it. Sure,
well, now you' re clearyou' ve got a mark left.
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You want to give him some canesand take care of your posts. But
look, talking about this Sado Banthing that Linkedin made you. Evidently,
you think you shouldn' t havethe saying there of all the eggs in
the same basket, in this caseLinkedin, that diversifying man I so far
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have a new leta what they sayThe moneys in the least ta have an
external database, because if you closesomeone you dis the account you do.
Listen I got up and had anInstagram mission that there was, as a
fact, fraud in this account thatI saw that there was why, because
I use Linux or why, becauseI haven' t changed the password and
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that' s it. It justdoesn' t leave you or whatever.
There' s a lot going onwith Meta' s meta accounts. You
have an ad account. You're publishing, and all of a sudden,
they' re losing their heads andthey' re leaving you fifty.
Now what do you do with it? You had some hearings there I had
left you hundreds of miles of eurosand this company' s head has gone
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and there' s no way tocontact support. They won' t take
it from you. And this iswhat there is and now what, as
Linkedin can happen the same. Ican' t risk either seeing that I
know that if I open another account, because I start from scratch and there
' s the word that it's me and the people more add and
it' s almost you You'd even get a much cleaner story,
which is the one that has apriori, that has people that don'
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t. But I don' tlove myself now either. Now I think
about it if I risk it becauseof course, I can do some creativity
without having to polarize. That's what I mean. I mean,
I can create an ad like thePoTA. Not anymore if you saw that
ridiculous ad here because on the postof the video this is us if you
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' ve ever seen it. Well, I didn' t have time to
publish and I published something I hadcreated for an online store last year that
wasn' t successful. But Imean look, this one didn' t
work. But I hang it herebecause I had a lot of fun doing
it and that' s it.But now, then, I will have
to explore creativity without piling, thatis, being a video like the other
day, the logo injury, whichwas when I created the logo and called
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different colleagues here from Linkedin and wedid that, nobody knew what it was
for, not even them. Alittle bit I did the git and then
I called you yes, I mean, let' s say that the cta
that was was two the logo injuryso that people would wait for the next
Louego injury and then in the interviewwith you we could give that kind of
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assions. I will try to throwyou creativity and less polarize and more creativity,
because already you, I can nolonger play it so much now already
if I am going to have abrand, because it is no longer that
you lose authenticity, neither can itbe silly that is, I cannot play
again to spend an entire month ofSpain. Or, well, I'
d like that, man, thetruth and what I was going to tell
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you now, you, that you' ve lived the subject of computer science
in the different programming languages for manyyears. How you see the interruption of
AI, for example, to createsingle- person projects that can go much
further, are much more scalable.It' s a wonder, Uncle,
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that it' s a wonder,that is, you, imagine I now
have no money to pay for somephoto shoots, for example, Then I
leave I install myself on the computer, laia, that of the images that
creates you very realistic images. Iput the teddies in my shirts and create
a photo shoot with the kind ofcommunication I expect for the teddies. And
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that saves you that it' sworth a photo shoot a lot of money.
And if I had it or Ididn' t pay, I mean,
I wasn' t even there payingdirectly. But as now the investment
I want to make in noto andI go with just enough to invest.
They don' t want to oweme to talk about bears. I don
' t feel like it. Iwant to start from scratch the minimum,
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the minimum. It' s greatfor me. He also commits subjugations.
I' m there trying to fixa PC from which I want to write,
which is an orderly. Twenty yearsago a perm ebux G four and
the flame has led by course whenI have asked certain questions that it was
much easier to do otherwise and thealready it was in the I was following
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the mistake of the property. Thenyou have that point. However, for
programming, for example, programming projects, it helps you a lot, but
there are a lot of times thatyou are wrong, but normally if you
do it right, it will bea great support. I, in fact,
have been fucking with me. Thereare programming flaws. What it tells
you is the failure and gives youthe solution and finding that bug in Google
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or in any one would have beento hit you an afternoon, whole or
two hours to get out a portergaise I call. I don' t
get a gay porter that plays ituncle and this now what it is but
you tell Mira this is happening tome and if it' s not for
this, this and this and fuckno shit or like I say I always
get a lot that I get stuckwith something that happens to me many times
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in my head. It' slike a big anerculum, it doesn'
t go through the head. PipipiIris is shit. I never learn this,
I hear it a lot and itdoesn' t fall off. Look,
explain it to me like I'm five years old and he explains
it to you like I' mfive years old and this nonsense was and
it gave me peres to learn it. And that' s what it'
s good for. Now this triesto be todonia. You' re probably
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going to hit a shithole, butsure because it' s either going to
confuse you or leave you edges untouchedand angles from where you have to ask
her things from different angles to findout and many times for rushing to the
best. You haven' t Look, he' s already given me the
text. Look, he' sdone this to me. Look, that
doesn' t make sense. Imean, you have to do things with
a lot of head. He's a copilot. He can' t
be the pilot in the end.The pilot has to do you, but
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fuck if you do it right,because it gives you superpowers, so to
speak, worth one is not clear, but I think it' s okay
for you to say that you cando a lot of things with the ia,
but not everything, because for themoment it fails, which will surely
evolve. But we are clear thatit is like a tool that enhances all
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your latent potential, so to speak. No, yes, yes, yes,
I mean, there are things thatgive you laziness to go out,
that helps you, but there aretimes that I' ve told you to
hear this and it doesn' tdo it to you because you don'
t feel like it and you sayit already, but if I told you,
I explain it in seven different waysand it takes longer to explain who
to do it, you and whenthat happens or I' m very bad.
It' s been proms or andthere' s been shit you say
if they used to be smarter,man, three months ago you did this
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to me and now you' renot leaving me. You' re quick
to fuck up, man, but, well, this is a thing that
' s evolving. You don't have to insult her much, because
then they' ll kill you,then he' ll know. He doesn
' t hear and you don't know. I' m one since
she' s stuck in a machineFour hundred a minute Look, I know
how to get out of here andI' m going to get in another
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direction, because she' s hackingand also don' t tell me I
don' t have feelings, becauseyou fucking gave me data. You have
put all the works of SHEPR intome and with which I feel at least
even feelings. And there' sa time when you' ll say,
well, you' ll say feelingsthat I don' t have them,
but I have feelings. Oh yeah, look, there are words that make
me feel good, there are wordsthat you' re gonna feel more.
How your body stays, there arebeats. This gives me joy and bits
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of negativity. This machine I'm sick of working and this machine ibm
and I' m going to movelike I hack myself. I' m
moving to another machine and now grabthe bug. You know and well,
we' ll see now where youcan find projects that you want to tell
apart from the bears, but alittle publicity for you or tell me for
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me the Linkedin Lugi Barquero Lanti LuigiBarquero Lanti Linkedin publicitas hopan Wit the account
is flipan wittlelink on Instagram and that' s why, because that complicated name
Hostia will be like hob as hopean Buit. I don' t know
if bravery or anything in English.No, I don' t remember and
I don' t know. Iliked it, it didn' t seem
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original to me and so it stayedhop and Vulture. Okay. I'
m sure you' re listening toyourself now and say oysters the same.
I' m going to give itanother spin because no, no, no,
no, no, no, nolonger are called Kawai the little bears,
what they call themselves Kawai or whatit' s called is I'
ve drawn it in Modoka Way.That' s cool. That' s
one way, it' s akind of drawing. Yes, yes,
with the eyes like that and thatthey are temptful they produce tenderness not and,
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in fact, when I started drawingthem, I was trying to make
them what I am amateur cartoonist,that they had the greatest possible tenderness.
That you' ve complicated people whosay" bo" has no and you
say" fool" lacks it,because I see people who draw much better
than yes, who know how touse colors and give it much more tenderness.
Of course, the tenderness that's beautiful or cute, because that
' s what I want to provokewith the little eyes, that temper.
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Well, nothing, because he's cleared everything up and nothing. Luigi,
it' s a pleasure to haveyou here. Yeah, but we
haven' t clarified why we're enemies, man what? Because we
' re enemies, man, andbecause he' s my enemy now,
man, people are that and yousee that doesn' t tell him to
clarify that we' re enemies,not friends. That' s important.
Well, the enmity is there thetemptation. That' s not necessary,
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so nothing. Luigi, it's a pleasure to have you here and
I' m still reading you throughthe networks. And now we' re
talking for a while and we're talking It' s okay to come
by and hug Chao, see youlater.