June 23, 2023 • 38 mins
Wes and Bill discuss the current actions of the government and attempt to make sense of their overreach of power.
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truth of the strives to be fair, balance and factual. We consider it
our privilege responsibly the news. There'sno conspiracy charge. I'm Wes and Abu.
This is conspire effect. You knowwhat Today is a day of Rant's
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pain, suffering and just being alittle irritated. And I think most of
you all agree, maybe thing ofBatman Verse Superman from out there. Today
is a day for truth, truth, truth. You can't handle the truth,
at least that's what the media things. Yet the mom from thirteen tell
us what America is all about.Also, she was also the mom and
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the Incredibles. You know what thefunny thing is, I had a disproportionately
like minor, like you know,cartoon crush on the Incredible Mom. You
know what I'm saying, she's likethe perfect mom situation. Just saying now
she's stretchy anyway, that's useful.Yeah, well I've heard that too.
So here's the thing today, Wesand I we were we were throwing around
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ideas, you know, you know, it's a bat ball back and forth,
and I finally was like, youknow what, I've got an idea.
I think we need to discuss whywe have so much habitual line stepping
by a few government agencies, anda blind eye that's being turned. And
there's all these things that I thinkeverybody here has some very very clear feelings
about. And I'm talking about clearfeelings like this is a bullshit fuck that
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those things that come up, thoseare the things I'm talking about. So
right now, the House Representatives justpassed a bill saying no to the pistol
brace law. And if you're unfamiliarwith the pistol brace law, the ATF
by administrative law, by by theirhabitual line steppery, has essentially made you
know, between ten and forty millionAmericans criminals because you all of a sudden
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became a felon because you've had somethingthat was historically legal for the last decade
and they've made it illegal by FIATin just a stroke of a pin.
Okay, So there's that, andthere's a host of other little small issues
with it that go with they can'tdo what they're doing. But this specifically
is, hey, you're a felonbecause we said so. Oddly enough,
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the House of Representative has been grillingpeople like crazy and beating that ass.
But I'm curious as to my quantificationgoes to this, has government like government
agencies have? Have government agencies goneFerrell? And I mean, I know
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that there is a cabal of peopleat the very peak of whatever it is,
whoever's got the administrative control, peoplewho are bureaucrats, who are appointed.
They are chosen not so much fortheir credibility or their capability, or
their ethics and morals, but moreabout maybe achieving a political agenda. What
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do you think. I think it'svery true. I feel like a lot
of the federal law enforcement agencies outthere are very paranoid, and I think
maybe the Internet might have something todo with that. They have all this
unlimited access to content, and whenthey view all these these social media posts
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and things like that, they're convincedthat the American people are doing no good.
Like, for example, we havea story we had talked about before.
At f showed up at a guy'shouse ask him to surrender all the
suppressors he just bought, and hegoes, hell you talking about and they,
yeah, you bought some oil filters, and we know that you're going
to put that on your firearming blocksthem out to shopping. Is I'm a
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mechanic. I bought those I couldtheir diesel fuel and oil filters. I'm
changing the filters out on these thesediesel trucks, Like, what the hell
is your problem? So it's gottento the point where, like the the
government agencies at f FBI, they'rejust convinced that the people are up to
no good because it's all they seeconstantly, and so they just assume that
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everyone's gonna go out and do adirty deed. And I feel like that
that is is showing up in theway that they're behaving right now and the
way that they're acting and the mediais kind of the same way media is
just convinced that like everyone out there'sa fascist, when it's like, it's
true, fascism isn't that big ofa deal, but they're making it out
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to be that way. Is thereany way you can link that little video
you sent to me about the reactionto someone being called a fascist and they
break down the definition. Oh yeah, I leave that in the article because
this is your fucking moron exactly afascist. Oh you're fucking moron. Yeah,
well no, here you go aheadand talking. I'm gonna I'm gonna
look up the definition find that soin the reality obviously this is a pretty
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loosely for every relaxed show. ButI've just come to the it's just come
to a conclusion. It's not evenan epiphany. It's just like, you
want to believe the best, andas I think that any of these organizations,
they have a lot of people init that are just as American and
two a belief and you know,our rights believers. You know, they
believe that just as genuinely as maybeyou and I do. But I think
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the closer you get to the top, the more corruption in terms of direction
of like, well, agency directionthat you run into, right, because
as we're talking about law enforcement,it's not a bottom up problem. It's
a top down problem. Right,every time that there's problems, you don't
look at the guy, just theone guy, and say this is he's
a problem, he's a bad apple, he's got to go. No,
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you need to look at the topand say where in the training doctrine that
they break? Where did it fail? Where are we making mistakes here and
there? And because these individuals,whether it's political or law enforcement or whatever
it is, there's very rarely doyou see that introspective moment where they're like,
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well wait a second, we atup here and we need to repair
this well a perfect and now.But when you do get called into question,
like let's say a political person,you know maybe that was writing a
daily Plaza, you know back inthe day when he said, hey Jack
or Hoover, you fuckers are outof control, and all of a sudden
his head came apart. You know, I mean, there's sure. I
mean, this is where I thinkwe're seeing that new brush. You know,
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there was a bunch of um anyway, it's it's escaping me. There
was a act that that took awaya lot of the power from UM,
from the from the federal agencies.And I think it was like fry or
fly versus something UM, and itbasically took them off the plate. It
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made it so they weren't as powerful. But to think that they're not doing
that shit again, it seems veryevident. Look at um, I'm gonna
just throw like spaghetti at a wall. Here we have Donald Trump getting indicted
on many and many counts, someof them which they're trying to, you
know, say there's felony that hedid some like you know, espionage acts
stuff, right. Yet on theother hand, there is uh and I
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know everybody this was news to me, but I'm gonna say it like it
was fucking common knowledge. The tentwenty three whatever file that goes with the
Biden it where they said that hetook five million dollars, multiple bribes they
have, they have voice recordings,they have this, they have that,
they have all this stuff that isabsolutely treason. Treason because you're not getting
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paid, because it's just because you'regood, you're just buddies, right,
there is some type of favor beingprovided there that's treason. Us. We're
not going to talk about that.What the fuck over? Yeah, they
found the documents in his house.He's just as guilty as Trump is,
but they're they're arresting Trump and placingcharges on him. It's like the president
of the United States has documents thathe's had at his house for years.
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President, which was what six yearsago? Yeah, Well, if you
look at the Barisma thing, right, and this is what we're talking about.
That guy there said, well,we're not going to allow this information
to come out because we're worried aboutthe whistleblower. Wait a second, you're
talking about a whistle blower in anothercountry that has that is in war right
now, that you're worried about himproviding and they you already have the voice
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recording of both him and Hunter.You also have documentations showing that he took
I mean purportedly, that that theyfucking paby. I mean, why is
that not like front page news?Why? I mean why? I mean
it's a rhetorical question. Guys,I know what, don't scream at the
radio and say Bill, you're stupid. Just it's rhetorical. But where where
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else could you say who who ultimatelyis responsible? Shouldn't the FBI be saying
like, well, uh, weneed to go have a chat. Right,
there needs to be some type ofinvestigation, not sweeping under the rug.
I mean, come on, man, like, that's where that's where
we've gone. We've gone to thesweeping under the rug program. You know,
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protect this guy and but arrest thisguy. Give me a fucking break.
This has gone This has gone offthe rails. And if you guys,
I'll be honest. Uh, thisthis indictment stuff that happened to Trump,
right, this is the foreshadowing forevery future president ever. This is
not going to stop now. Thisis going to be the political tit for
tat that will break this country.And if we are having law enforcement weaponized
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against political figures and against the populace, which obviously which is also pretty apparent,
this is the beginning of the end. Or we're mid party and and
if somebody's going welcome to the party, pal, it's because it's true.
Yes, I've been aware of this. It's rhetorical. But how do we
as a community turn that needle?How do we move that Does it happen
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to the voting booth? Because Imean I'm not sure. I mean I
don't think you can fix every election, but I think you'd have to start
at the grassroots in order to evenget anything changed. Yeah, I have
that definition of fascism if you wantto hear it now, Yes, I'd
love to hear it. A politicalphilosophy, movement or regime such as that
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of the FASTI I'm sure that exaltsnation and often race above the individual.
That stands for a centralized autocratic governmentheaded by a dictatorial leader, severe economic
and social regimentation, and forcible suppressionof opposition. So so the left,
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Yeah, well here's the thing.You can look at it and you could
say, yeah, you know whatthe last is kind of like even though
they claim of the anti fascism,they're kind of like if negative and positive
or the two ends of the electronicsubspectrum, right, you have negative flowing
and positive flowing. Right, they'rejust you know, they're the reverse of
this. They're they're fascism, butthey're they're doing it in a different way.
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So um with German fascism, whichis what we were the most familiar
with, that was saying that theAryan race was superior. They elected a
dictatorial leader that told him everything theywanted to hear Hitler, and they used
economics and um, they used theyeven use the environment as an excuse to
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go in to suppress their opposition andto get rid of who they felt was
a scapegoat, which they made outto be the Jews because they had the
banks. Yeah exactly, Yeah,and um, they they hated capitalism,
they hated communism, the pretty muchanything that UM stood in their way,
which was anything that wasn't of them. So you look at what the Democratic
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Party is doing right now. Sothey don't exalt the nation, um,
they demonize the nation. Um.They don't pick one racist superior, but
they pick races that they considered tobe inferior to white people, and they
then build them up and say that, well they are morally superior because they
receive more hatred. And anyone whodoesn't support these people, or support gay
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people or wherever it is, areracists or they are um transphobic, or
they're they're homophobic. I think they'reusing them. So instead of instead of
um, demonizing a marginalized group that'sthat's a small group that's successful financially,
what they're doing the reverse is they'redemonizing a smoke group people that are are
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financially successful, that it happen towhite right. They're they're they're demonizing rich
people, specifically rich white people,and then what they're doing instead is they're
exalting those who are considered to beinferior in their eyes. So, um,
it's it's it's funny. It's likethe same playbook. It's just they're
just changing out the vowels, right, or changing everything. You know,
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they're they're just they're they're they're swappingout the nouns and well, they're using
a different they're also swapping out thepronouns, if you want to pick at
that as well. It's it's soweird. It's like it's the same book
he said, being printed out onblue paper. It's purnt out on on
rainbow paper or whatever. You're lookinglike, it's the same thing. It's
the same coloring book. It's justnow it has different pictures. And then
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they're they're accusing right wingers of doingthe same thing gaslighting. Yeah, and
they're they're they're gaslight and it's it'sit's great. And they have control over
the media. That's the thing.If you have the media on your side.
Oh yeah, if you're not thelittle guy. All right, if
you have the media supporting you andvalidating everything that you say, you're the
one that's in power. You cansay that you're you're the marginalized, and
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you're the known or whatever as muchas you want. But if you say
something and the media will go andtake it and then support it without questioning
it whatsoever, you have a lotof power in this country. Um.
Did you see the fact that therewere two CNN uh editorialists or reporters but
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it's just not really one of thesame. But yeah, um, they
were the ones calling out saying whyis this not front page news? About
the five million dollars? Why isthis not even being talked about? So
the even when when you start seeingobviously failing cable news networks start bringing up
who are who have been traditionally youknow, anything that the the current setting
president is saying is fucking gospel.Now they're starting to turn. I mean
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that's a good sign. It isa good sign, but I think it's
too little, too late. Buton the other on the other hand,
how many people only watch like thelocal media news. I think a lot
of people are getting a distributed formof news and there's a lot of there's
a lot of echo chamber. SoI think that they're largely unaware, you
know what I mean of this,of this belief system. And I think
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that I mean totally not to totallydiverse from your point. They don't believe
your analysis or my analysis of whatthey're doing, you know what I mean
of their of their perspective. Theydon't see the fact that they are the
bundle of sticks saying if you're notwith us, you're against us, and
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you know, and then in sayingthings like I mean, let's go back
to the pandemic thing, okay,when they said, you know, if
you don't get the vaccine, it'sokay, if you die, you just
need to sit in the line.You should die. You shouldn't be allowed
to go into a hospital if you'rehaving a heart attack. And I'm like,
you know, it's funny. Thefact that they said that, that
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illustrates point Wes, that is literallythe tribalism. And what I find very
fascinating is because we're talking about weaponizationof law enforcement. Um, if if
you were a police officer, let'ssay, let's say you're a director of
the FBI, right, Wes Wesis the director, and Wes, your
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belief system, your political beliefs aresecondary to the morals and ethics in the
ethical code that you should be displayingas a director of the FBI. Correct,
Because I mean, in my opinion, so if you know, like
I could say this easily, ifa person, if a person that even
you may have politically supported, turnedout to be a straight up fucking criminal,
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you'd be like, you broke thelaw, dude, laws of law.
And it's not about me. I'mtrying to politically maneuver and suppress information
and keep things from happening because I'mtrying to protect something. The reality is
is that you'd be like, nahum, he's you're you're You're going to follow
the due process of law and you'llhave your day in court, and if
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you are convicted, you're convicted.If you're not, you're not. And
that is the way I feel aboutany of this shit. It's it's so
simple. Why do we keep onconvoluting uh, politics and law? I
mean, yes, they are oneand the same in certain aspects, but
in terms of like agenda about youknow, tough on crime, and yes,
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there's obviously political entwinement but when youstart talking about real crime, like
real fucking crime, why is thereeven a question? Why is it?
Why is it suppressed? Is itbecause they just have too much power?
Do they have something on you?Is that? How that is? That?
How that plays is that you haveto be bought and paid for by
the time you get to that highIs that what it comes to? I
mean, I suppose yeah. Uh. With the way that they're running things,
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it's like they feel as if theyhave the moral high ground right,
and media is the same thing.They're like, well, because I believe
in progressive ideologies, therefore I knowwhat I'm talking about, and I know
that this is the better thing,and anything that threatens my ideologies is clearly
evil. On they will go outof their way to show how it's evil
and how they disagree with it.And that's not what they should be doing.
They should be staying neutral, andthey should be going out and looking
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for stories that the taxpayers need toknow about and that the voters need to
know about, and they should besharing that information in a way and showing
both sides of the story. Right, So, for example, use like
the border issues and going on,they need to show both sides and say
hey, look, yeah, thesepeople just want to get in, they
want to want to out a betterlife. And that's the same time you
filip around and say, yeah,where are we going to put them?
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Right, that's a fair question,Steve saying that's that's heartless of you to
say, no, we need topoint out, like, Okay, if
we have sixty million people across theborder within a couple of weeks, where
are we going to house all ofthem? That's a state, right,
Like California is like fifty five million, So if we have that many people,
that not that many people. Butlet's just let's let's says some assetine
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large number like that, Like where'regonna put them all? Wyoming, We're
gonna just like start buying a plan. That's a lot of people, right,
even even five million people. That'sa city. That's what you do
is you have a holding area anda pedestrian bridge going right back to where
they came from. Yeah, byno, okay, Now here's another another
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little piece. Have you had Okay, I know it's this is also rhetorical
because I know you have, butum, have you had people who are
on the opposite side of the spectrumof your of your perspective, whatever that
is, okay, whatever your perspectiveis. And they start throwing talking points
at you, but not facts,And then they start throwing facts that have
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been refuted three or four weeks ago, right, but they's still like but
for them, that's fresh information.And You're like, what the fuck are
you talking about. That's not real, that's not this, and but they
are one hundred are sent saying thatyou are a conspiracy theorist. You're out
of your mind. You're like,no, this is literally, this is
literally what's happening that? Are youup to date on this? Well,
yeah, but I haven't seen ityet on my social network or whatever the
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fuck it is that they're they're using, and they look at you like you're
crazy. Like I had a friendtalking. We were talking about the second
Amendent. We were talking about onefourteen, right, and they said,
what if they make your firearms isillegal? And I'm like, well,
I don't give a ship because it'sunconstitutional. Well, that's very interesting that
you're picking and choosing the which lawsto follow for a law and order type
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of person. I said, well, if it's a repugnant fucking law then
it's not a good law, right. I mean, and I'm not talking
about like things like don't steal,don't rape kids, you know, shit
like that. That's like pretty muchuniversal. Well as I thought it was
universal, But when you start talkingabout firearm laws and stuff, the second
Amenda, it's pretty fucking absolute.And when it's against federal law, and
yet they are they're trying to makea law that's against federal law and constitutional
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law. That where's the problem there? Like I asked him, like,
well, if someone said you can'tuse your iPhone anymore, what would you
say that. He'd be like,well, that's bullshit. I'd be like,
well, right, well, thisiPhone it doesn't kill. I said,
that's a really fucking bold statement,because I would I would venture to
guess that the written word is moredangerous than a firearm. Yeah, because
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so you know, and you know, it's those type of conversations you get
into and you know, it's it'ssad when you know you've won before you
get started, and then all itis is dunking on them. But it's
like you try to say it ina nice way, so it's an educational
experience. Yeah, they're too fuckingstupid to listen. They're so stuck in
their mindset. We had some lastweek where there was a guy that was
a DJ I like to follow becauseyou'd make content that was kind of similar
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to my montage. Yeah, andhe was praising Gavin Newsom and said,
Oh, California is really awesome.I'm like, you probably didn't go to
the nasty neighborhoods. You probably didn'tgo to the neighborhoods where people are shooting
on the sidewalk, or people areare getting stabbed with Neil's or you know,
people living intense and they're getting caughton fire. And I was like,
that's happening here in Portland where Ilive. And he goes, well,
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no, that's you know, somethings you said are wrong, and
I don't have time to tell youwhat you said was wrong. I'm like,
okay, well, why don't youtake the time like tell me,
like what, Well, um,you won't listen to me anyway. So
but I was like, okay,so if you're telling me then I'm wrong,
you need to show me where I'mwrong, like like, because I
I even said, like, look, you know it's it's terrible in certain
areas, I said in Portland average, right is eighteen hundred dollars a month.
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Well now you're wrong, Okay,Well okay, tell me where I'm
wrong because the actual number is likeone seven hundred and sixty or something like
that. So like I rounded itup to eighteen hundred, right, that's
that's an accurate figure. Like whatare you? Where am I wrong?
Well, you know you won't listento me anyway, so why would I
even waste my time? And I'mlike, you're wasting your time right now
talking to me, and I feellike I just I finally just look,
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you're just being a troll head.Well you know, I hope you don't
resort to violence. I'm like,well, no, you're being a fucking
troll and I'm not gonna waste withviolence. Yeah, said something along the
lines yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, said a message on Facebook
saying something along the lines of like, um, I hope y'all folk don't
go into don't resort to violence oranything. But I'm like, what makes
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you think I would resort to violenceover a discussion on Facebook? And well
he was definitely baiting you. Butlook, I'm gonna give you some prop
Swiss. That was the most gangstershit you've ever said. Why don't you
take the time, Yeah, becauseif you don't have the time, won't
you just go ahead and take thetime if you're willing to refute, let's
hear it. Well, you wouldn'tbelieve me anyway. I think you're I
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think you're being intellectually disingenuous, sir. I don't think that you have any
facts or figures. I think you'reoperating on emotion and bullshit, and that's
you know, and that's that's generallythe the the guys of most of the
arguments were like you you listen tohim and it starts out really strong with
like some facts and figures. You'relike, yeah, that's incorrect, you
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know, And and they're like,well, I got these numbers on you
know this thing. You know,you know I'm right and you're wrong dot
com or some shit like that.You're like yeah, and you're like,
but that's not how that actually works. But favorite when they point out,
like well Snopes said it was mixed, Like, I don't give a shit
what snubs has to say. Snopesjust goes off of they if they can't
find anything to show it one wayor the other. They just they kind
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of got me whatever. Snubs canonly confirm things if it's clearly fake,
right, if they give it amix, that means they started out with
some truth. But there's the truthgot moneyed up with people playing a game
of telephone and stretching the truth out. Well, speaking is stretching the truth
out and subverting facts and creating anenvironment like you know, since this is
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a this is the Spaghetti in aWall episode, you know, all the
suppressed information about it's okay to bea minor attracted person and all these things
that I don't think. I don'tthink the average American blue or red or
whatever, the color fucking independent iswhatever, purple or whatever, whoever,
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here's this. I don't think ingeneral people are okay with pedophiles. I
don't. I just don't. Ithink it's pretty cultural. I think we
in general don't like that as anAmerican society. Right, I think that's
reasonable. I think everybody can younod at your radio and say, yes,
you're right, okay, So whyis it that we have this big
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push, this big, big,big, big push to make it more
culturally acceptable? Right? Why isit why we are trying to make this
thing more of a you know,like, let's society get used to it.
Is it a situation? We're gettingready to see a bunch of people
who would have otherwise been indicted,who have been doing some really nasty shit
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high up. Maybe the information iscoming out. Then by the time they
get to it, the sheep aregoing to be like, Oh, it's
not that big a deal, andI can still support my political political ideologue
because believe me, if I foundout that Donald Trump was raping kids,
I'd be like, and I justfeel the same way about anybody who is
a rapist. If you're raping kids, then you need to get raped by
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a fucking lamps and then you twocan end and then you won't offend anymore.
So I mean, look, I'llstand behind that shit. Pedophiles are
no boy, no no good.And I don't understand why we're trying to
condition everybody to make make it soundlike it's okay, you know what I
mean? Like, I mean,I know one hundred years ago or one
deserves to be included in our newworld. That's who them's the diversity and
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inclusion has no limits because it's makeeveryone feel included make everyone feel welcome.
It's like, okay, well evenpeople at rape kids. Well, I'm
sure we can find a way.Well if they don't harm the kids,
and I guess they're okay, okay, do you promise not to harm the
kids. That's some creepy pedophile inthe Yeah, yeah, okay, well
I'm sure he can be a babysitter. Now you know it's right, Well,
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here, should calm down? Youthat that that thing you do with
the popsicle talking about the dude onfamily? Are you should calm down?
Or downstairs? Pops? Was itour whole mess of pop circles down in
the cellar and then us one downon top bottle of a pianet? Yeah,
I can't see first one and downon top bottle of tom No pims
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is the Winner's like, oh,I'm gonna rapulatum. Yeah, it's like
that guy right there and needs toget got, you know, like no,
I just um, I think thatI think we need to And I'm
not talking about like I'm not goingto talk about secularity and all that type
of stuff. I don't know that'sit's not as consequential. Okay. Morals
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and ethics, yes, religious basedstuff is very helpful. Um. And
I think that it's stronger though whenyour culture, when your culture says,
hey, like don't do this,don't do that, and you're learning it
doesn't matter if there's a deity involved. But you know what I'm saying,
there's some reinforcement there. But Iunderstand where I'm going here. Um,
we seem to have lost our way. Um. And it's been on purpose
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on trying to make everything okay thatis, you know, realistically or traditionally
like, man, that's not anygood, like you know, you know
what I mean, it's really interesting, like, um, okay, so
here's a great here's a great example. And I notice is no bueno no.
So the um I've noticed, I'venoticed. Okay, So after they
did the Black Lives Matter thing andthey did all that, they where these
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these institutions used, um, thestrife and the civil rights movement and all
these things that over the last coupleof years. So I'm not talking about
original I'm talking about the last fewyears trying to make every Black American a
victim, right a victim. Andthen they started going on this this angle
of hey, let's do this inclusionstuff and about you know, the LGBTQ
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and and and like raping, andthen there's the next phase phase of of
um what would you call it groomingand um and pedophilia. But here's the
thing of the black community in generalhas a really strong religious base and they
are really based in a lot ofa lot of a lot of their culture
is very based and has a lotof strong ethical moral values, uh in
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terms of their upbringing right in termsof like a lot of church involved there.
And they're rejecting that you know thatyou know, child rape thing.
So now they're getting you know,disenfranchised, right, they're getting kicked away
because they're not going to be usefulanymore so and they're going to the next
group that's going to be helpful toget to their next agenda. And I
think it's just I think it's justfascinating that everybody isn't seeing like they use
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one group, then they use anothergroup, and they use another group,
but they kind of keep everything separate. But they don't want to talk about
one thing with one group because thatthey do, then they're going to lose
that group. But they only talkyou know that, but they propote it
and they push it and make everybodyelse the villain accept the people that they're
trying to protect at the time.And it does feel like a lot of
the people that were originally being used, um you know, i e.
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Black Americans that now they're getting kindof shunned because they're not the new,
latest, greatest, smallest, youknow, percentage of people who are being
marginalized and or or what there's whattheir agenda says, they're being marginalized with
the LGBTQ plus barbecue. What thefuck over roller skate Lawler by helicopter group.
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You know, I I don't gotit. I mean, yeah,
Lawler skates. Do you see whatI mean? Do you hear I'm coming
from? Yeah? That makes sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
agree. It comes back to mywhole definition of fascism is that they have
they kind of flippity floppity it.So what they do is that they champion
certain groups of people, right,so they consider be marginalized. So for
example, feminism, that's one oftheir their pet pieces causes right now,
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right, So, um, respectwomen, exalt women, Women are better
than men and everything. Women aremore virtuous because they're they're weaker. Um,
whatever happens to be right, um. And and then that means that
men have to be then put intheir place and pushed down in order to
exalt women. They don't. Theydon't really push women up. They just
try to suppress masculinity to make femininitystronger. Um. But then it's it's
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the get upset about sexualizing women incertain arenas. Right, so it's wrong
to sexualize a female superhero, butit's empowering to sexualize a girl and only
fans. Wait a minute, GoodMoral was hot as a fuck. They're
same, so they were to sexualizedGood more, they'd be upset, but
at the same time. But therewas a young girl eighteen years old that
was all cute and conservative, andall of a sudden she decides that she
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wants to go start up, butonly fans and get bent over a barrel
and fucked by some dude. Thatwould be considered empowering towards women because she's
taking control of her sexuality. Andthen they also say when you respect women
and they need to have their theirtheir places to be themselves. But then
they flip around they say that,well, trans women are women, so
therefore men should be allowed to gointo these women's spaces and compete women's sports,
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and they get set if if women'ssports aren't given the same credit or
money like for example, w NBA, they were trying to make us feel
guilty that Britney Griner last year whenshe got all the charges and everything before
she got really trying to guess feelbad and civil. So the only reason
why she was playing Russia because shecouldn't make enough money in her regular season
during the w NBA. And she'sthe she's like the Lebron James with the
w NBA, even though she hasn'tput up numbers anywhere close to Lebron.
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She was the best at her sport, women's basketball, and she couldn't make
enough money. But that's also becausethe sport doesn't make money. So but
at the same time they flip aroundthey say that Leah Thompson should be able
to go and compete in women's sports. Yeah, they think the guy they
think because because then that's where itcomes to the whole thing, is it.
Well, there's no difference between sexesnow, even though there is a
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difference between sexes because they keep sayingthat men are toxic for being masculine and
women are are should be exalted andconsidered to be of higher quality because they're
feminine, right, So they keepflip flopping on everything. They keep going
back and forth on who is thevictim and who is not, So it's
um the ideology is that there's somany different ones mixed in there that it's
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just kind of become like this,this discusting never ending soup, right,
if you've heard about that's something itneeds to do. Right in the Middle
Ages, they would just have asoup bowl going constantly and they would just
add into the cauldron and just keepmaking soup never ending, and you know,
and then that case it's supposed tobe delicious, but I could see
that getting very gross very quickly aftera while. And that's kind of what
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they're doing here, is it's likethey just keep adding ideologies in there,
and some of them don't mix.Like you don't mix fish with you know,
like you take chicken season and makemake a fish dish with it.
It doesn't doesn't go right. Usecertainly, like you know, use like
citrus for fish, and you canuse other spices for chicken, but they
don't usually mix together very well.And that papricon it. Yeah, Well,
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I mean, well, I thinkthat I think you actually hit on
a more interesting, actually a moreaccurate um fight with the feminist traditional feminism
and uh and the current definition wherepeople are like, well what what Rowling?
Right? She said no dude,women or women? Right? They
think that she is us Christ.Yeah, she's radical because she's saying no,
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I don't think men should be allowedto come into women's spaces and tell
women what to do or dominate women. And yet, if you haven't watched
the documentary What as a Woman,it's it's uh, it kind of confirms
everything that we're saying. It's Ihate to say this, but you could
watch Pretty Woman and probably figure outwhat a woman was was totally okay,
I totally got it. Well,that ass was moving woo. Well,
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the whole point of the documentary wasthat Matt Walsh was pointing out that people
are yelling and screaming these things andthey can't even define what is that they're
defending. Well, yeah, it'sbecause they're they're so engrossed in how they
feel rather than worrying about the factsfirst. But yeah, that was the
whole point of the documentary is basicallysaying, look, your ideologies are inconsistent
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and it's it's going to harm people. And they're like, oh, you
can't do that. You can't makeme look bad. And he's like,
well, fuck, I can't.I mean, you're making yourself look bad
because I'm giving you a microphone.I'm asking you to define your your beliefs
and you can't even do that.Imagine imagine going after your Christian ask him
who is Jesus and they would justbe like, ah, Jesus is whoever
he wants to be. That wouldbe really they'd be like, wait,
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what the fuck are you talking about? Broth? Yeah, so, um,
you know the best part, youknow, the best part about these
type of episodes as What's that thefact that we can say really what we
want and actually mean what we sayand it's okay. It's like we're actually
talking about our real opinions. It'slike, that's the best part. It's
not like we're being told what tothink, and that's kind of the winning.
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That's the best part about independent media. And it's it's amazing because I
get to get a lot of shitoff my chest when you and I are
talking about it. Yeah, youknow, it's and I think a lot
of people I think we are.I mean, yeah, we're an echo
chamber. But at least the peoplethat are an echo chamber I can have
a conversation with and be like,yeah, even if we disagreed, you
would have a conversation. It wouldn'tbe someone screaming in my face and that
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you're wanting to hit him in thehead with like a steward you know what
I'm saying, just just saying.But and also you know, and and
I'm going to say this a bigshout out um to writer of Concealment because
you know that's a that's definitely hasour values in mind. And um and
and absolutely if you're looking for likegun stuff and kaitex, you should hit
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him up. And I mean,like I said, independent media, I
could say what don't want and Imean it the ship's good to go.
Um And then yeah, and thenone last little piece, I'm just gonna
say this. Let's say this.You know the best part about not having
to take having never taken that vaccine, I don't have myocarditis, I don't
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have complications. But um, youknow, I would say I know that
a lot of aftermath, there wasa lot of people who covered the ship
out of that. That's why wekind of stayed wide of it, because
we didn't really you know, ifeverybody's saying the same thing, it's like,
man, you know, we gotto cover something else. And I
thought, you know, West andI certainly agree that water cooler discussion that
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would get us fired is probably thebest version best of things everybody wants to
talk about. So you know,Yeahsthans, we're on a network that won't
shut us down for saying stuff thatwe think about the vaccines or whatever.
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This is conspire effect. You knowwhat Today is a day of Rant's
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pain, suffering and just being alittle irritated. And I think most of
you all agree, maybe thing ofBatman Verse Superman from out there. Today
is a day for truth, truth, truth. You can't handle the truth,
at least that's what the media things. Yet the mom from thirteen tell
us what America is all about.Also, she was also the mom and
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the Incredibles. You know what thefunny thing is, I had a disproportionately
like minor, like you know,cartoon crush on the Incredible Mom. You
know what I'm saying, she's likethe perfect mom situation. Just saying now
she's stretchy anyway, that's useful.Yeah, well I've heard that too.
So here's the thing today, Wesand I we were we were throwing around
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ideas, you know, you know, it's a bat ball back and forth,
and I finally was like, youknow what, I've got an idea.
I think we need to discuss whywe have so much habitual line stepping
by a few government agencies, anda blind eye that's being turned. And
there's all these things that I thinkeverybody here has some very very clear feelings
about. And I'm talking about clearfeelings like this is a bullshit fuck that
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those things that come up, thoseare the things I'm talking about. So
right now, the House Representatives justpassed a bill saying no to the pistol
brace law. And if you're unfamiliarwith the pistol brace law, the ATF
by administrative law, by by theirhabitual line steppery, has essentially made you
know, between ten and forty millionAmericans criminals because you all of a sudden
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became a felon because you've had somethingthat was historically legal for the last decade
and they've made it illegal by FIATin just a stroke of a pin.
Okay, So there's that, andthere's a host of other little small issues
with it that go with they can'tdo what they're doing. But this specifically
is, hey, you're a felonbecause we said so. Oddly enough,
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the House of Representative has been grillingpeople like crazy and beating that ass.
But I'm curious as to my quantificationgoes to this, has government like government
agencies have? Have government agencies goneFerrell? And I mean, I know
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that there is a cabal of peopleat the very peak of whatever it is,
whoever's got the administrative control, peoplewho are bureaucrats, who are appointed.
They are chosen not so much fortheir credibility or their capability, or
their ethics and morals, but moreabout maybe achieving a political agenda. What
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do you think. I think it'svery true. I feel like a lot
of the federal law enforcement agencies outthere are very paranoid, and I think
maybe the Internet might have something todo with that. They have all this
unlimited access to content, and whenthey view all these these social media posts
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and things like that, they're convincedthat the American people are doing no good.
Like, for example, we havea story we had talked about before.
At f showed up at a guy'shouse ask him to surrender all the
suppressors he just bought, and hegoes, hell you talking about and they,
yeah, you bought some oil filters, and we know that you're going
to put that on your firearming blocksthem out to shopping. Is I'm a
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mechanic. I bought those I couldtheir diesel fuel and oil filters. I'm
changing the filters out on these thesediesel trucks, Like, what the hell
is your problem? So it's gottento the point where, like the the
government agencies at f FBI, they'rejust convinced that the people are up to
no good because it's all they seeconstantly, and so they just assume that
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everyone's gonna go out and do adirty deed. And I feel like that
that is is showing up in theway that they're behaving right now and the
way that they're acting and the mediais kind of the same way media is
just convinced that like everyone out there'sa fascist, when it's like, it's
true, fascism isn't that big ofa deal, but they're making it out
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to be that way. Is thereany way you can link that little video
you sent to me about the reactionto someone being called a fascist and they
break down the definition. Oh yeah, I leave that in the article because
this is your fucking moron exactly afascist. Oh you're fucking moron. Yeah,
well no, here you go aheadand talking. I'm gonna I'm gonna
look up the definition find that soin the reality obviously this is a pretty
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loosely for every relaxed show. ButI've just come to the it's just come
to a conclusion. It's not evenan epiphany. It's just like, you
want to believe the best, andas I think that any of these organizations,
they have a lot of people init that are just as American and
two a belief and you know,our rights believers. You know, they
believe that just as genuinely as maybeyou and I do. But I think
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the closer you get to the top, the more corruption in terms of direction
of like, well, agency directionthat you run into, right, because
as we're talking about law enforcement,it's not a bottom up problem. It's
a top down problem. Right,every time that there's problems, you don't
look at the guy, just theone guy, and say this is he's
a problem, he's a bad apple, he's got to go. No,
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you need to look at the topand say where in the training doctrine that
they break? Where did it fail? Where are we making mistakes here and
there? And because these individuals,whether it's political or law enforcement or whatever
it is, there's very rarely doyou see that introspective moment where they're like,
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well wait a second, we atup here and we need to repair
this well a perfect and now.But when you do get called into question,
like let's say a political person,you know maybe that was writing a
daily Plaza, you know back inthe day when he said, hey Jack
or Hoover, you fuckers are outof control, and all of a sudden
his head came apart. You know, I mean, there's sure. I
mean, this is where I thinkwe're seeing that new brush. You know,
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there was a bunch of um anyway, it's it's escaping me. There
was a act that that took awaya lot of the power from UM,
from the from the federal agencies.And I think it was like fry or
fly versus something UM, and itbasically took them off the plate. It
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made it so they weren't as powerful. But to think that they're not doing
that shit again, it seems veryevident. Look at um, I'm gonna
just throw like spaghetti at a wall. Here we have Donald Trump getting indicted
on many and many counts, someof them which they're trying to, you
know, say there's felony that hedid some like you know, espionage acts
stuff, right. Yet on theother hand, there is uh and I
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know everybody this was news to me, but I'm gonna say it like it
was fucking common knowledge. The tentwenty three whatever file that goes with the
Biden it where they said that hetook five million dollars, multiple bribes they
have, they have voice recordings,they have this, they have that,
they have all this stuff that isabsolutely treason. Treason because you're not getting
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paid, because it's just because you'regood, you're just buddies, right,
there is some type of favor beingprovided there that's treason. Us. We're
not going to talk about that.What the fuck over? Yeah, they
found the documents in his house.He's just as guilty as Trump is,
but they're they're arresting Trump and placingcharges on him. It's like the president
of the United States has documents thathe's had at his house for years.
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President, which was what six yearsago? Yeah, Well, if you
look at the Barisma thing, right, and this is what we're talking about.
That guy there said, well,we're not going to allow this information
to come out because we're worried aboutthe whistleblower. Wait a second, you're
talking about a whistle blower in anothercountry that has that is in war right
now, that you're worried about himproviding and they you already have the voice
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recording of both him and Hunter.You also have documentations showing that he took
I mean purportedly, that that theyfucking paby. I mean, why is
that not like front page news?Why? I mean why? I mean
it's a rhetorical question. Guys,I know what, don't scream at the
radio and say Bill, you're stupid. Just it's rhetorical. But where where
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else could you say who who ultimatelyis responsible? Shouldn't the FBI be saying
like, well, uh, weneed to go have a chat. Right,
there needs to be some type ofinvestigation, not sweeping under the rug.
I mean, come on, man, like, that's where that's where
we've gone. We've gone to thesweeping under the rug program. You know,
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protect this guy and but arrest thisguy. Give me a fucking break.
This has gone This has gone offthe rails. And if you guys,
I'll be honest. Uh, thisthis indictment stuff that happened to Trump,
right, this is the foreshadowing forevery future president ever. This is
not going to stop now. Thisis going to be the political tit for
tat that will break this country.And if we are having law enforcement weaponized
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against political figures and against the populace, which obviously which is also pretty apparent,
this is the beginning of the end. Or we're mid party and and
if somebody's going welcome to the party, pal, it's because it's true.
Yes, I've been aware of this. It's rhetorical. But how do we
as a community turn that needle?How do we move that Does it happen
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to the voting booth? Because Imean I'm not sure. I mean I
don't think you can fix every election, but I think you'd have to start
at the grassroots in order to evenget anything changed. Yeah, I have
that definition of fascism if you wantto hear it now, Yes, I'd
love to hear it. A politicalphilosophy, movement or regime such as that
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of the FASTI I'm sure that exaltsnation and often race above the individual.
That stands for a centralized autocratic governmentheaded by a dictatorial leader, severe economic
and social regimentation, and forcible suppressionof opposition. So so the left,
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Yeah, well here's the thing.You can look at it and you could
say, yeah, you know whatthe last is kind of like even though
they claim of the anti fascism,they're kind of like if negative and positive
or the two ends of the electronicsubspectrum, right, you have negative flowing
and positive flowing. Right, they'rejust you know, they're the reverse of
this. They're they're fascism, butthey're they're doing it in a different way.
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So um with German fascism, whichis what we were the most familiar
with, that was saying that theAryan race was superior. They elected a
dictatorial leader that told him everything theywanted to hear Hitler, and they used
economics and um, they used theyeven use the environment as an excuse to
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go in to suppress their opposition andto get rid of who they felt was
a scapegoat, which they made outto be the Jews because they had the
banks. Yeah exactly, Yeah,and um, they they hated capitalism,
they hated communism, the pretty muchanything that UM stood in their way,
which was anything that wasn't of them. So you look at what the Democratic
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Party is doing right now. Sothey don't exalt the nation, um,
they demonize the nation. Um.They don't pick one racist superior, but
they pick races that they considered tobe inferior to white people, and they
then build them up and say that, well they are morally superior because they
receive more hatred. And anyone whodoesn't support these people, or support gay
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people or wherever it is, areracists or they are um transphobic, or
they're they're homophobic. I think they'reusing them. So instead of instead of
um, demonizing a marginalized group that'sthat's a small group that's successful financially,
what they're doing the reverse is they'redemonizing a smoke group people that are are
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financially successful, that it happen towhite right. They're they're they're demonizing rich
people, specifically rich white people,and then what they're doing instead is they're
exalting those who are considered to beinferior in their eyes. So, um,
it's it's it's funny. It's likethe same playbook. It's just they're
just changing out the vowels, right, or changing everything. You know,
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they're they're just they're they're they're swappingout the nouns and well, they're using
a different they're also swapping out thepronouns, if you want to pick at
that as well. It's it's soweird. It's like it's the same book
he said, being printed out onblue paper. It's purnt out on on
rainbow paper or whatever. You're lookinglike, it's the same thing. It's
the same coloring book. It's justnow it has different pictures. And then
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they're they're accusing right wingers of doingthe same thing gaslighting. Yeah, and
they're they're they're gaslight and it's it'sit's great. And they have control over
the media. That's the thing.If you have the media on your side.
Oh yeah, if you're not thelittle guy. All right, if
you have the media supporting you andvalidating everything that you say, you're the
one that's in power. You cansay that you're you're the marginalized, and
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you're the known or whatever as muchas you want. But if you say
something and the media will go andtake it and then support it without questioning
it whatsoever, you have a lotof power in this country. Um.
Did you see the fact that therewere two CNN uh editorialists or reporters but
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it's just not really one of thesame. But yeah, um, they
were the ones calling out saying whyis this not front page news? About
the five million dollars? Why isthis not even being talked about? So
the even when when you start seeingobviously failing cable news networks start bringing up
who are who have been traditionally youknow, anything that the the current setting
president is saying is fucking gospel.Now they're starting to turn. I mean
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that's a good sign. It isa good sign, but I think it's
too little, too late. Buton the other on the other hand,
how many people only watch like thelocal media news. I think a lot
of people are getting a distributed formof news and there's a lot of there's
a lot of echo chamber. SoI think that they're largely unaware, you
know what I mean of this,of this belief system. And I think
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that I mean totally not to totallydiverse from your point. They don't believe
your analysis or my analysis of whatthey're doing, you know what I mean
of their of their perspective. Theydon't see the fact that they are the
bundle of sticks saying if you're notwith us, you're against us, and
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you know, and then in sayingthings like I mean, let's go back
to the pandemic thing, okay,when they said, you know, if
you don't get the vaccine, it'sokay, if you die, you just
need to sit in the line.You should die. You shouldn't be allowed
to go into a hospital if you'rehaving a heart attack. And I'm like,
you know, it's funny. Thefact that they said that, that
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illustrates point Wes, that is literallythe tribalism. And what I find very
fascinating is because we're talking about weaponizationof law enforcement. Um, if if
you were a police officer, let'ssay, let's say you're a director of
the FBI, right, Wes Wesis the director, and Wes, your
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belief system, your political beliefs aresecondary to the morals and ethics in the
ethical code that you should be displayingas a director of the FBI. Correct,
Because I mean, in my opinion, so if you know, like
I could say this easily, ifa person, if a person that even
you may have politically supported, turnedout to be a straight up fucking criminal,
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you'd be like, you broke thelaw, dude, laws of law.
And it's not about me. I'mtrying to politically maneuver and suppress information
and keep things from happening because I'mtrying to protect something. The reality is
is that you'd be like, nahum, he's you're you're You're going to follow
the due process of law and you'llhave your day in court, and if
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you are convicted, you're convicted.If you're not, you're not. And
that is the way I feel aboutany of this shit. It's it's so
simple. Why do we keep onconvoluting uh, politics and law? I
mean, yes, they are oneand the same in certain aspects, but
in terms of like agenda about youknow, tough on crime, and yes,
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there's obviously political entwinement but when youstart talking about real crime, like
real fucking crime, why is thereeven a question? Why is it?
Why is it suppressed? Is itbecause they just have too much power?
Do they have something on you?Is that? How that is? That?
How that plays is that you haveto be bought and paid for by
the time you get to that highIs that what it comes to? I
mean, I suppose yeah. Uh. With the way that they're running things,
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it's like they feel as if theyhave the moral high ground right,
and media is the same thing.They're like, well, because I believe
in progressive ideologies, therefore I knowwhat I'm talking about, and I know
that this is the better thing,and anything that threatens my ideologies is clearly
evil. On they will go outof their way to show how it's evil
and how they disagree with it.And that's not what they should be doing.
They should be staying neutral, andthey should be going out and looking
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for stories that the taxpayers need toknow about and that the voters need to
know about, and they should besharing that information in a way and showing
both sides of the story. Right, So, for example, use like
the border issues and going on,they need to show both sides and say
hey, look, yeah, thesepeople just want to get in, they
want to want to out a betterlife. And that's the same time you
filip around and say, yeah,where are we going to put them?
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Right, that's a fair question,Steve saying that's that's heartless of you to
say, no, we need topoint out, like, Okay, if
we have sixty million people across theborder within a couple of weeks, where
are we going to house all ofthem? That's a state, right,
Like California is like fifty five million, So if we have that many people,
that not that many people. Butlet's just let's let's says some assetine
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large number like that, Like where'regonna put them all? Wyoming, We're
gonna just like start buying a plan. That's a lot of people, right,
even even five million people. That'sa city. That's what you do
is you have a holding area anda pedestrian bridge going right back to where
they came from. Yeah, byno, okay, Now here's another another
(19:27):
little piece. Have you had Okay, I know it's this is also rhetorical
because I know you have, butum, have you had people who are
on the opposite side of the spectrumof your of your perspective, whatever that
is, okay, whatever your perspectiveis. And they start throwing talking points
at you, but not facts,And then they start throwing facts that have
(19:48):
been refuted three or four weeks ago, right, but they's still like but
for them, that's fresh information.And You're like, what the fuck are
you talking about. That's not real, that's not this, and but they
are one hundred are sent saying thatyou are a conspiracy theorist. You're out
of your mind. You're like,no, this is literally, this is
literally what's happening that? Are youup to date on this? Well,
yeah, but I haven't seen ityet on my social network or whatever the
(20:11):
fuck it is that they're they're using, and they look at you like you're
crazy. Like I had a friendtalking. We were talking about the second
Amendent. We were talking about onefourteen, right, and they said,
what if they make your firearms isillegal? And I'm like, well,
I don't give a ship because it'sunconstitutional. Well, that's very interesting that
you're picking and choosing the which lawsto follow for a law and order type
(20:33):
of person. I said, well, if it's a repugnant fucking law then
it's not a good law, right. I mean, and I'm not talking
about like things like don't steal,don't rape kids, you know, shit
like that. That's like pretty muchuniversal. Well as I thought it was
universal, But when you start talkingabout firearm laws and stuff, the second
Amenda, it's pretty fucking absolute.And when it's against federal law, and
yet they are they're trying to makea law that's against federal law and constitutional
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law. That where's the problem there? Like I asked him, like,
well, if someone said you can'tuse your iPhone anymore, what would you
say that. He'd be like,well, that's bullshit. I'd be like,
well, right, well, thisiPhone it doesn't kill. I said,
that's a really fucking bold statement,because I would I would venture to
guess that the written word is moredangerous than a firearm. Yeah, because
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so you know, and you know, it's those type of conversations you get
into and you know, it's it'ssad when you know you've won before you
get started, and then all itis is dunking on them. But it's
like you try to say it ina nice way, so it's an educational
experience. Yeah, they're too fuckingstupid to listen. They're so stuck in
their mindset. We had some lastweek where there was a guy that was
a DJ I like to follow becauseyou'd make content that was kind of similar
(21:41):
to my montage. Yeah, andhe was praising Gavin Newsom and said,
Oh, California is really awesome.I'm like, you probably didn't go to
the nasty neighborhoods. You probably didn'tgo to the neighborhoods where people are shooting
on the sidewalk, or people areare getting stabbed with Neil's or you know,
people living intense and they're getting caughton fire. And I was like,
that's happening here in Portland where Ilive. And he goes, well,
(22:03):
no, that's you know, somethings you said are wrong, and
I don't have time to tell youwhat you said was wrong. I'm like,
okay, well, why don't youtake the time like tell me,
like what, Well, um,you won't listen to me anyway. So
but I was like, okay,so if you're telling me then I'm wrong,
you need to show me where I'mwrong, like like, because I
I even said, like, look, you know it's it's terrible in certain
areas, I said in Portland average, right is eighteen hundred dollars a month.
(22:25):
Well now you're wrong, Okay,Well okay, tell me where I'm
wrong because the actual number is likeone seven hundred and sixty or something like
that. So like I rounded itup to eighteen hundred, right, that's
that's an accurate figure. Like whatare you? Where am I wrong?
Well, you know you won't listento me anyway, so why would I
even waste my time? And I'mlike, you're wasting your time right now
talking to me, and I feellike I just I finally just look,
(22:45):
you're just being a troll head.Well you know, I hope you don't
resort to violence. I'm like,well, no, you're being a fucking
troll and I'm not gonna waste withviolence. Yeah, said something along the
lines yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, said a message on Facebook
saying something along the lines of like, um, I hope y'all folk don't
go into don't resort to violence oranything. But I'm like, what makes
(23:06):
you think I would resort to violenceover a discussion on Facebook? And well
he was definitely baiting you. Butlook, I'm gonna give you some prop
Swiss. That was the most gangstershit you've ever said. Why don't you
take the time, Yeah, becauseif you don't have the time, won't
you just go ahead and take thetime if you're willing to refute, let's
hear it. Well, you wouldn'tbelieve me anyway. I think you're I
(23:27):
think you're being intellectually disingenuous, sir. I don't think that you have any
facts or figures. I think you'reoperating on emotion and bullshit, and that's
you know, and that's that's generallythe the the guys of most of the
arguments were like you you listen tohim and it starts out really strong with
like some facts and figures. You'relike, yeah, that's incorrect, you
(23:47):
know, And and they're like,well, I got these numbers on you
know this thing. You know,you know I'm right and you're wrong dot
com or some shit like that.You're like yeah, and you're like,
but that's not how that actually works. But favorite when they point out,
like well Snopes said it was mixed, Like, I don't give a shit
what snubs has to say. Snopesjust goes off of they if they can't
find anything to show it one wayor the other. They just they kind
(24:10):
of got me whatever. Snubs canonly confirm things if it's clearly fake,
right, if they give it amix, that means they started out with
some truth. But there's the truthgot moneyed up with people playing a game
of telephone and stretching the truth out. Well, speaking is stretching the truth
out and subverting facts and creating anenvironment like you know, since this is
(24:30):
a this is the Spaghetti in aWall episode, you know, all the
suppressed information about it's okay to bea minor attracted person and all these things
that I don't think. I don'tthink the average American blue or red or
whatever, the color fucking independent iswhatever, purple or whatever, whoever,
(24:56):
here's this. I don't think ingeneral people are okay with pedophiles. I
don't. I just don't. Ithink it's pretty cultural. I think we
in general don't like that as anAmerican society. Right, I think that's
reasonable. I think everybody can younod at your radio and say, yes,
you're right, okay, So whyis it that we have this big
(25:18):
push, this big, big,big, big push to make it more
culturally acceptable? Right? Why isit why we are trying to make this
thing more of a you know,like, let's society get used to it.
Is it a situation? We're gettingready to see a bunch of people
who would have otherwise been indicted,who have been doing some really nasty shit
(25:41):
high up. Maybe the information iscoming out. Then by the time they
get to it, the sheep aregoing to be like, Oh, it's
not that big a deal, andI can still support my political political ideologue
because believe me, if I foundout that Donald Trump was raping kids,
I'd be like, and I justfeel the same way about anybody who is
a rapist. If you're raping kids, then you need to get raped by
(26:03):
a fucking lamps and then you twocan end and then you won't offend anymore.
So I mean, look, I'llstand behind that shit. Pedophiles are
no boy, no no good.And I don't understand why we're trying to
condition everybody to make make it soundlike it's okay, you know what I
mean? Like, I mean,I know one hundred years ago or one
deserves to be included in our newworld. That's who them's the diversity and
(26:27):
inclusion has no limits because it's makeeveryone feel included make everyone feel welcome.
It's like, okay, well evenpeople at rape kids. Well, I'm
sure we can find a way.Well if they don't harm the kids,
and I guess they're okay, okay, do you promise not to harm the
kids. That's some creepy pedophile inthe Yeah, yeah, okay, well
I'm sure he can be a babysitter. Now you know it's right, Well,
(26:49):
here, should calm down? Youthat that that thing you do with
the popsicle talking about the dude onfamily? Are you should calm down?
Or downstairs? Pops? Was itour whole mess of pop circles down in
the cellar and then us one downon top bottle of a pianet? Yeah,
I can't see first one and downon top bottle of tom No pims
(27:12):
is the Winner's like, oh,I'm gonna rapulatum. Yeah, it's like
that guy right there and needs toget got, you know, like no,
I just um, I think thatI think we need to And I'm
not talking about like I'm not goingto talk about secularity and all that type
of stuff. I don't know that'sit's not as consequential. Okay. Morals
(27:36):
and ethics, yes, religious basedstuff is very helpful. Um. And
I think that it's stronger though whenyour culture, when your culture says,
hey, like don't do this,don't do that, and you're learning it
doesn't matter if there's a deity involved. But you know what I'm saying,
there's some reinforcement there. But Iunderstand where I'm going here. Um,
we seem to have lost our way. Um. And it's been on purpose
(27:59):
on trying to make everything okay thatis, you know, realistically or traditionally
like, man, that's not anygood, like you know, you know
what I mean, it's really interesting, like, um, okay, so
here's a great here's a great example. And I notice is no bueno no.
So the um I've noticed, I'venoticed. Okay, So after they
did the Black Lives Matter thing andthey did all that, they where these
(28:23):
these institutions used, um, thestrife and the civil rights movement and all
these things that over the last coupleof years. So I'm not talking about
original I'm talking about the last fewyears trying to make every Black American a
victim, right a victim. Andthen they started going on this this angle
of hey, let's do this inclusionstuff and about you know, the LGBTQ
(28:47):
and and and like raping, andthen there's the next phase phase of of
um what would you call it groomingand um and pedophilia. But here's the
thing of the black community in generalhas a really strong religious base and they
are really based in a lot ofa lot of a lot of their culture
is very based and has a lotof strong ethical moral values, uh in
(29:11):
terms of their upbringing right in termsof like a lot of church involved there.
And they're rejecting that you know thatyou know, child rape thing.
So now they're getting you know,disenfranchised, right, they're getting kicked away
because they're not going to be usefulanymore so and they're going to the next
group that's going to be helpful toget to their next agenda. And I
think it's just I think it's justfascinating that everybody isn't seeing like they use
(29:33):
one group, then they use anothergroup, and they use another group,
but they kind of keep everything separate. But they don't want to talk about
one thing with one group because thatthey do, then they're going to lose
that group. But they only talkyou know that, but they propote it
and they push it and make everybodyelse the villain accept the people that they're
trying to protect at the time.And it does feel like a lot of
the people that were originally being used, um you know, i e.
(29:56):
Black Americans that now they're getting kindof shunned because they're not the new,
latest, greatest, smallest, youknow, percentage of people who are being
marginalized and or or what there's whattheir agenda says, they're being marginalized with
the LGBTQ plus barbecue. What thefuck over roller skate Lawler by helicopter group.
(30:17):
You know, I I don't gotit. I mean, yeah,
Lawler skates. Do you see whatI mean? Do you hear I'm coming
from? Yeah? That makes sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
agree. It comes back to mywhole definition of fascism is that they have
they kind of flippity floppity it.So what they do is that they champion
certain groups of people, right,so they consider be marginalized. So for
example, feminism, that's one oftheir their pet pieces causes right now,
(30:40):
right, So, um, respectwomen, exalt women, Women are better
than men and everything. Women aremore virtuous because they're they're weaker. Um,
whatever happens to be right, um. And and then that means that
men have to be then put intheir place and pushed down in order to
exalt women. They don't. Theydon't really push women up. They just
try to suppress masculinity to make femininitystronger. Um. But then it's it's
(31:06):
the get upset about sexualizing women incertain arenas. Right, so it's wrong
to sexualize a female superhero, butit's empowering to sexualize a girl and only
fans. Wait a minute, GoodMoral was hot as a fuck. They're
same, so they were to sexualizedGood more, they'd be upset, but
at the same time. But therewas a young girl eighteen years old that
was all cute and conservative, andall of a sudden she decides that she
(31:26):
wants to go start up, butonly fans and get bent over a barrel
and fucked by some dude. Thatwould be considered empowering towards women because she's
taking control of her sexuality. Andthen they also say when you respect women
and they need to have their theirtheir places to be themselves. But then
they flip around they say that,well, trans women are women, so
therefore men should be allowed to gointo these women's spaces and compete women's sports,
(31:48):
and they get set if if women'ssports aren't given the same credit or
money like for example, w NBA, they were trying to make us feel
guilty that Britney Griner last year whenshe got all the charges and everything before
she got really trying to guess feelbad and civil. So the only reason
why she was playing Russia because shecouldn't make enough money in her regular season
during the w NBA. And she'sthe she's like the Lebron James with the
w NBA, even though she hasn'tput up numbers anywhere close to Lebron.
(32:10):
She was the best at her sport, women's basketball, and she couldn't make
enough money. But that's also becausethe sport doesn't make money. So but
at the same time they flip aroundthey say that Leah Thompson should be able
to go and compete in women's sports. Yeah, they think the guy they
think because because then that's where itcomes to the whole thing, is it.
Well, there's no difference between sexesnow, even though there is a
(32:34):
difference between sexes because they keep sayingthat men are toxic for being masculine and
women are are should be exalted andconsidered to be of higher quality because they're
feminine, right, So they keepflip flopping on everything. They keep going
back and forth on who is thevictim and who is not, So it's
um the ideology is that there's somany different ones mixed in there that it's
(32:55):
just kind of become like this,this discusting never ending soup, right,
if you've heard about that's something itneeds to do. Right in the Middle
Ages, they would just have asoup bowl going constantly and they would just
add into the cauldron and just keepmaking soup never ending, and you know,
and then that case it's supposed tobe delicious, but I could see
that getting very gross very quickly aftera while. And that's kind of what
(33:17):
they're doing here, is it's likethey just keep adding ideologies in there,
and some of them don't mix.Like you don't mix fish with you know,
like you take chicken season and makemake a fish dish with it.
It doesn't doesn't go right. Usecertainly, like you know, use like
citrus for fish, and you canuse other spices for chicken, but they
don't usually mix together very well.And that papricon it. Yeah, Well,
(33:43):
I mean, well, I thinkthat I think you actually hit on
a more interesting, actually a moreaccurate um fight with the feminist traditional feminism
and uh and the current definition wherepeople are like, well what what Rowling?
Right? She said no dude,women or women? Right? They
think that she is us Christ.Yeah, she's radical because she's saying no,
(34:07):
I don't think men should be allowedto come into women's spaces and tell
women what to do or dominate women. And yet, if you haven't watched
the documentary What as a Woman,it's it's uh, it kind of confirms
everything that we're saying. It's Ihate to say this, but you could
watch Pretty Woman and probably figure outwhat a woman was was totally okay,
I totally got it. Well,that ass was moving woo. Well,
(34:27):
the whole point of the documentary wasthat Matt Walsh was pointing out that people
are yelling and screaming these things andthey can't even define what is that they're
defending. Well, yeah, it'sbecause they're they're so engrossed in how they
feel rather than worrying about the factsfirst. But yeah, that was the
whole point of the documentary is basicallysaying, look, your ideologies are inconsistent
(34:50):
and it's it's going to harm people. And they're like, oh, you
can't do that. You can't makeme look bad. And he's like,
well, fuck, I can't.I mean, you're making yourself look bad
because I'm giving you a microphone.I'm asking you to define your your beliefs
and you can't even do that.Imagine imagine going after your Christian ask him
who is Jesus and they would justbe like, ah, Jesus is whoever
he wants to be. That wouldbe really they'd be like, wait,
(35:13):
what the fuck are you talking about? Broth? Yeah, so, um,
you know the best part, youknow, the best part about these
type of episodes as What's that thefact that we can say really what we
want and actually mean what we sayand it's okay. It's like we're actually
talking about our real opinions. It'slike, that's the best part. It's
not like we're being told what tothink, and that's kind of the winning.
(35:34):
That's the best part about independent media. And it's it's amazing because I
get to get a lot of shitoff my chest when you and I are
talking about it. Yeah, youknow, it's and I think a lot
of people I think we are.I mean, yeah, we're an echo
chamber. But at least the peoplethat are an echo chamber I can have
a conversation with and be like,yeah, even if we disagreed, you
would have a conversation. It wouldn'tbe someone screaming in my face and that
(35:55):
you're wanting to hit him in thehead with like a steward you know what
I'm saying, just just saying.But and also you know, and and
I'm going to say this a bigshout out um to writer of Concealment because
you know that's a that's definitely hasour values in mind. And um and
and absolutely if you're looking for likegun stuff and kaitex, you should hit
(36:15):
him up. And I mean,like I said, independent media, I
could say what don't want and Imean it the ship's good to go.
Um And then yeah, and thenone last little piece, I'm just gonna
say this. Let's say this.You know the best part about not having
to take having never taken that vaccine, I don't have myocarditis, I don't
(36:35):
have complications. But um, youknow, I would say I know that
a lot of aftermath, there wasa lot of people who covered the ship
out of that. That's why wekind of stayed wide of it, because
we didn't really you know, ifeverybody's saying the same thing, it's like,
man, you know, we gotto cover something else. And I
thought, you know, West andI certainly agree that water cooler discussion that
(36:57):
would get us fired is probably thebest version best of things everybody wants to
talk about. So you know,Yeahsthans, we're on a network that won't
shut us down for saying stuff thatwe think about the vaccines or whatever.
All right, guys, if youhave any thoughts on what we talked about
today, definitely let us know inthe comments on aftermath. We will read
those during our comment review show,which should be coming up here to a
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We'll be back next week with twomore episodes. As always, I'm
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Wes and I'm Bill, and watchthe sky's for us. And remember vote
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