March 7, 2024 • 39 mins
Avery explains how to check your luggage when you are traveling to an event with a firearm or a non-firearm replica. As you would guess it's possible, but not without a fair amount of issues with the TSA.
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Hey, welcome to unsuppressed. Iam wes with the guys. Where can
we talking about how to travel withyour firearms or replica firearms? This can
also apply the airsoft because the countrythe same way by the FFA and TSA
and all those guys. So we'retalking about how to travel. I'm assuming
we're aften talking about ground travels,was air travel? But Bill, why
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don't you go ahead and take takeus away on this? Let me shave
my gun. I want to goon a plane. See, I've never
flown with I've never flown with firearms. It's never been a thing. And
showing me how to do this,well, my question is okay. So
Avery has recently spent quite a bitof time in the air and he's been
you know, you know, beboppingaround the country and around the world,
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and because he wanted to actually bringsome depth of education to this program,
he brought up an interesting topic Ithink everybody's wondered about because you know,
you always hear the horror stories ofwell, you know, I was gonna
lie like bring my gun to theairport, and all of a sudden I
was tackled by TSA Because I liketrying to check it through like dude,
dumbass. So this is where Averyhas to take over and explain actually how
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this works. Well, surprisingly,most people are smarter about their guns at
the airport than the check in clerksat whatever provider or whatever carrier. And
the TSA, honestly like TSA havebeen, have told me multiple times that
they are not trained in how toidentify weapons. So I've traveled with both
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airsoft guns, which look extremely realistic, and I have also traveled with real
fire arms. As a matter offact, two weeks ago, I flew
to North Carolina with a rifle casefull of guns and pistols and suppressors and
everything. And yeah, we've shippedthem back via fed X, which surprises
a lot of people. I justwant to ask, can I check this?
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Like? Can I is this carryon? Just check it? Yeah,
And so you know, we youget to the terminal, you do
your bag stuff, and then yougo up to them and you're like,
yeah, there's a firearm in here. And most of the time, if
you're running a Pelican case, theyalready assume that it's a firearm, whether
it is or isn't. So that'ssomething to consider too. Is a lot
of times they just look at itand look at the case. And if
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let's say you had fishing equipment oryou had photography equipment anything like that,
if it's a black plastic box,they're going to probably make an assumption that
there's a firearm in there. Andthen if there is, then you just
go about your business, you know, turning it and declaring it and all
that stuff, and it's not abig deal. But if there isn't,
then TSA is going to think thatthere is, and the security lady's going
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to think there is, They're goingto ask you. Gets really annoying.
So when you use your when youchoose what bag you're going to take with
you, that's an important thing toconsider. As a matter of fact,
we just had two camera bodies stolenout of a Pelican case on the way
back. So that was would havebeen Wednesday, last Wednesday, with two
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of our cameras. So no question. Do you have to have locks on
the pelicans in order to adequately servicethe need for going on a plane.
Uh so the rifles need to havethe have locks, but any other baggage
can't. I'd heard a story thatsomebody would throw a receiver into it so
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they could say that there's a weaponand have it treated like a weapon,
which has obviously way more security associatedwith it than uh, you know,
a normal bag or anything. Idon't know if that's realistic or if he
was just being being a little littlebit much, but you know, I
can understand it. After we've hadtwo camera bodyes stolen, kind of camera
ives stolen. They're yeah, bigmoney. Yeah. One of them was
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our video camera and one for recordingvideo, and one of them was our
stills. You know now, andeverybody is wondering. I watched Avery press
weights carry bags and shoot guns ona video. Let me tell you his
loving him. That's my man.She's good. Yeah. She was like
that's super hot, and I waslike, I was not ready for that.
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You need one of those, uhthe clicker bags for your your clock
that helps with the dot side isno, no, no, that that
thing he's holding them will show yeahthat meal. They're like one hundred bucks,
but it'll help you work your triggerpress and clean mine up. So
yeah, it just interacts. Youcan even hear the click. Oh use
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Yeah, it's you know, it'svery expensive for what it is. One
hundred bucket three D print that forlike five bucks. I actually actually have
the file to three D printed.It's on thing averse and so my plan
is actually printed. You just needa like an M five screw and a
spring and you can three print it. I can send you the springs,
the exact ones, because I haveabout thirty of them. I yeah,
yeah, well they come with awith a little bag of different ones with
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different weights. The one that camewith it feels fine. It's a little
bit heavier than the actual but Ilike to do it because it gives my
my trigger finger, you know,some something to work on right now.
Not to templetely derail and not talkabout our idea was because you know,
we are probably yeah, I meanbeing the fact that we are probably one
of the most on topic podcasts outthere. The other thing that goes with
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that is, so when how didyou ship like everything in a box?
Like you said? So, theoriginal plan was for us to ship so
we had receiver sets in a riflethat we were going to give to the
Foundations so that they could get yeah, auction off basically or people could win
them. And then we had ourguns that we're going to have down there
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for display. Well, I wasconcerned about those because we needed those guns
for the stages. And a lotof times FedEx we've lost Vegas, we've
lost guns, and last year atthis event in North uh, North Carolina,
we lost guns. So you findthem eventually, right, But FedEx
has a history of losing shit,so we air tag everything. I strongly
recommend that air I mean, nowit's all yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I mean I'm smart and I runAndroid, but usually there's somebody that I
can air tag the you know,yeah, with an iPhone. But I
always recommend people do that. Ialways put a business card on the outside
of the box as well. Thelocks cannot be TSA accessible, so they
have to be solid, good locks. Wes. You have pointed out something
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about reaching your fingers in there andbeing able to touch the gun. Yeah,
yeah, I heard that fatality I'mshowing. So as long as you
can't reach in and touch the firearm, they're happy. Yeah. I haven't
read that anywhere. However, they'reall idiots, so it doesn't really matter
like that, Like if you cancrack the box. I've had them say
like, oh, you can't,you can't do that. I actually one
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time shipping weapons for the government forthe inauguration. We're shipping rifles and pistols
to Washington, DC. And Ihad a flight to flight attendant whatever they're
called. The lady at the countersay, oh, we're not allowed ship
weapons. And I was like,you you realize we're the government, right,
Like, you can probably ship ourweapons to DC so that they can
go do their job. And she'slike, yeah, we can't do it.
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And I was like, oh,that's okay, because I have this
memorandum signed by a commander right herethat says we can. And she didn't
even read it. She just pickedit up and looked at it. She's
like, okay, Like I gotto think. It looks like it's on
a piece of paper and see this. You know, there's only a few
times in my life where I'm like, I'm pretty smart person. Well that
was one of them, because beforewe left, I was like, I
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bet I'm gonna need a piece ofpaper, and so I printed off a
piece of paper that said I coulddo this and then signed it. Swanson
moment just like I do what Iwant, whatever I want. Yeah,
yeah, it was fucking ridiculous.He said, is let him do it?
And then it said, you know, colonel, it wasn't even a
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real memorandum. It was just,yeah, I made an official as fuck,
put a coffee stand on the thingand everything. That was great.
Not to worry, I have apermit. This just says I can do
what I want. Yeah. SoI just showed it to her and she's
like, oh, okay, andthen they took the guns. But you
know, getting back to it,Yeah, picking your case is very,
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very important. I really do notrecommend a cheap, you know, twenty
dollars thirty dollars plastic case from Walmart. I would strongly recommend something with wheels
because you're probably gonna have to carryit, and if you put one rifle
and a pistol and potentially your AMMOin there, then it becomes a big
deal. I like to Yeah,I like a lot separate. Yeah,
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it has to be. It hasto be in a separate container. It
can still be in the lock boxwith it, so you could like have
an AMMO can sealed up and dropit still the case. You know,
box, AMMO is still in thecase. It cannot be in the mag
or in the gun. That's whenI interpreted that. I thought it meant
that case, a separate box.So it says here, it says in
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the original Okay, ammunition must bein the original package packaging from the manufacturer.
We're in a package specifically designed tocarry small amounts of ammunition made parentheses
here, made of fiber, woodor metal, with a maximum of eleven
pounds five kilograms per container or customer. Ammunition is not accepted loose or in
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a magazine or clip. Okay,So literally it has to the Calama canful
five five six if you want tocheck it nice, yeah, ship it.
So usually what we do is weship our AMMO separately. I don't
I can't remember a time we flewwith ammo, just because it makes it
a lot harder. So we shipstuff as best we can. And then
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you know, ammunition, we actuallybuy it on site too, if we
burn through it like at this event, or you just go to you know,
Walmart in any place other than Washington, Oregon and buy your AMMO there.
Just drive over Tennessee real quick bywhat you need my lass back?
You know you're good? Yeah,So yeah, those are all things to
consider. If you want talk andwe're really hitting all over the place,
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I probably could have organized this thoughtprocess a little bit better. But you
know, the airsoft guns, I'veactually had more problems flying with airsoft guns
than I do real guns because peopleconsider them or look at them as a
gun, even though it's not agun. And it specifically states in the
TSA's website that aerosoftware replica guns arenot real firearms, and they're not They
don't fall under the restrictions as areal firearm does. So generally, when
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I travel with my airsoft guns,I'll put them in my rucksack. I'll
have a couple bags. Off ofmy rucksack. I'll have a shoulder bag
or like a Duffel bag typing asmaller you know, a gym sized bag
that has my you know, platecarrier or my helmet or my chest rig
or whatever equipment I'm gonna need,and then it has my uniform boots and
that stuff. So when I getto wherever I'm gonna do, if it's
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a real firearms exercise or if it'san airsoft exercise, I just have that
bag that I operate out of.So when I get there, you know,
you change out, I take allthat all my clothes off my street,
I put them in the bag,and I put all my work clothes
on, and then when I'm done, I just do the exact opposite,
so everything just rolls back and forthand it's very smooth and efficient that way.
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I've set my girlfriend up for thesame way. So when she goes
she has a green bag, Ihave a multiicam bag, and we know
that her stuff is in one,my stuff is in the other, and
all you have to do is justput it on change. You know,
I'll strip my wallet down. Now, I guess this is getting in the
weeds, but I'll strip my walletdown, so I'll leave that in the
bag and stuff like that, soI'm not carrying this fat, stupid wallet
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around. But anyways, so withthat mind, do you have to declare
airsoft guns the same way you dothe same aerosoft guns or toys and replicas.
Now, if you don't declare them, it potentially could cause you problems
in the future. Like for meexample, I had an issue in I
had an issue in Louisiana, andI had an issue in DC. And
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I think I've had one more,but those were the two big ones.
I had one where the lady clearlyhad no idea what she was talking about,
and then called the cop, andthe cop came over and she threw
her little tantrum and he's like it'sa toy, like what are you talking
about? And then she's like whatabout that? And he picks up the
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It's not a suppressor, it's ayou know what, what's those strobe things
that makes the tracer BB's glow.He's like, this is plastic. It's
not real. He's like, well, I don't. I wasn't trained on
how to identify a real firearm.And I was like, yeah, it's
literally your job. I had theDC guy do the same thing, and
the cops couldn't even identify if hewas a real fake gun. So at
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that point I said, I said, you guys should you guys should know
if this is a real fake gunjust by looking at it and seeing And
they're like, well, I meanthey could be converted into real firearms,
so we have to treat him asreal farm So I'm like, well,
actually no, it couldn't. Itabsolutely can't. I mean if you looked
at it and then you abs andthen the tsag, it was like,
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well, you guys should provide itlike a card. That says it's not
a real firearms. And so Idid the long pause and I looked at
him and I said, so you'retelling me that if I gave you a
card right now that said this isnot a firearm, we could be done.
Did you squeak squeak, squeeze.He stopped and he was like,
oh, yeah, yeah, Iguess that wouldn't make sense. Like,
yeah, it doesn't really make sense, does it. And then the security
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guard, now I'm starting to getagitated, not the security guard, but
the cop. He was like,sure, could you please calm down?
Yeah, right, this is nota gun. You got a classic army
off to the side of it.Yeah, not again. Yeah. So
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those are those are some of thegreat experiences. So I guess we got
to hear the rest of this becausehow do you resolve it? Because now
we've gotten the mean potatoes of whatThe best part now this is this is
practical for a commercial break. That'sright, you know what, Let's do
a commercial break. Let's come backand we'll finish this out. This is
funny. Those unsuppressed boys sure gotthemselves into a best with the TSA.
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Let's see it. It's like it'slike, yes, sir, I feel
like I'm gonna dukes to Habits episoderight there. Alright, guys, we're
gonna take a quick break, pausefor commercials, ads, whatever else we're
gonna put in there. We'll beright back in just a moment, and
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we're back on Unsuppressed. Just beforethe break we had left off, there
was a lot of drama going on, and Avery was about ready to scream
and at the ESA agent and acopy Yes, so yeah, the TSA
agent. So I go through security. Okay, so this is DC.
They obviously already it's out there.We'll go to DC, do an Aerosoft
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event. Check my bags just likeI did on my way out there.
Thought everything was good, set upmy minecraft, my laptop. Have about
an hour before the plane takes off, so I've got a little bit of
time. Start screwing around, andI get a phone call and it says
Alaskan Airlines. So I immediately startpacking up my computer because I know what's
going on, and answer the phoneand they're like, yeah, can you
you didn't declare some firearms and sowe need to come back through security and
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declare them correctly. I'm like,well, actually they're not firearms. They
airsoft guns, and I don't haveto declare them. And she's like,
oh, well, the TSA agentthinks they're firearms. And I'm already walking
right because I need to already know. So I go through go out security,
go to the TSA counter and Iaddress to this person. I say
that, you know, those arenot real guns. They're fake guns.
They're toys. They're replicas. Weuse them for training. And he's like,
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well, they look like guns tome. I'm like, well,
obviously you don't know what you're talkingabout. And he's like, well,
I'm just going to call the copsover here. Then I was like,
fucking bet, let's go. Sohe calls the first cop over, some
old guy and he tries to chargethe M four or the AR fifteen looking
gun, and I was like,sir, if you do that, you're
going to break that. Please don'tdo that because these are electric, they're
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not gased that the charging handles arefor show. They don't. Yeah,
and they had a little tiny ballpointpen spring that holds them together and it's
easy to rip the charging handle out. So then he writes down the serial
number, like the serial numbers isnot the same and a single problem one
that's ever been created. Then youalso know that or know that the serial
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number was painted on and it wasn'tengraved. Oh no, these are edged.
These were don't look in the magwell, God forbid. Yeah.
I pointed that out to him.I point out the barrel and the magwell
and if you open up the dustcover, uh, you know, obviously
this was an in four, Okay, I did not not taking off.
Yeah, So I made it veryclear, im. I show him the
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wires coming out of it for thebattery and all this stuff, and he
just he kept charging it. I'mlike, you, you're gonna break it
if you do that. Like stop. He's like, well, I'm gonna
run the serial number. I'm like, okay, Like that serial number doesn't
exist for this gun. That doesn'texist. Just look at the maguell.
You can see this fucking ghost gun. Bro. So the second cop shows
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up and he's like, I don'tknow what the fuck I'm looking at.
This could be a gun, itcould not be a gun. Then the
third cop shows up and that's whenI'm like, all right, I'm done.
I'm done being nice because I'm tryingto be. And then they started
asking me like, well, arethere cards, like will the comp airsoft
company provide a card to let meknow that's not a real gun? And
I said, well, you're anidiot if you think that that is a
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good idea, because I'll just printhim off with my printer and will be
good to go. Yeaht a gun. Yeah. So so then the cops
like, sir, could you pleasecalm down, like we're just trying to
get the bottom of this. SoI'm like, actually, I've been calm
for the past thirty five minutes whileyou guys trying to figure out what is
a gun and what isn't a gunfor your own rules. And I at
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this point already have the TSA rulesup on my phone and I'm showing them
right here. The replica this isyou guys don't know what you're talking about.
That's one situation then, and Iknow way done yet. I want
to hear how this was had thiswas solved. I basically said, you
guys are idiots, and they agreed, and I packed the guns up and
I went through security and got onmy flight and came home. But the
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best one, this is the bestone. You know what the best well
hold on did they say we're reallysorry. That would actually happen to be
a human being. These cops eversay sorry only in the courtroom, don't
have to. I'd always assume thatyou should just declare the airsoft guns because
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you just a lot of look atas an idiot and doesn't know the difference.
Yeah, a lot of the YouTubers, the airsoft YouTubers, they carry
them and treat them just like realfirearms. And yeah, they do that,
and maybe it's better, maybe it'sworse. I've had I've had real
firems and vegas come through the conveyorbelt line. That's awesome. Yeah,
you like, so we have somebodystanding over by the the you know,
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the tables, the right office spacesfor the for the baggage claim area,
which is where they're supposed to comethrough. Then they check your ID and
make sure that it's registered, thebag is registered to you, and then
you can take them right But they'lljust PLoP right out on the line where
anybody off the street can literally justwalk in and grab them and walk out.
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Yeah, and like I said,if it's in a pelican case,
if it's in a rifle looking case, like you kind of have an idea
what it is. Well, thatwas I didn't like t REX. They
talked about that, like, hey, put like camera stickers and shut all
of the Pelican case or something tomis identify. I'm like, but I
was thinking to myself, like,well, that's even more applicable for someone
to want to steal, you know, like you see that case, like,
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oh man, there's a really expensivecamera equipment here, and that's it's
not even why the guitar cases nowto just put hazardous material stickers on all
air stuff and biohazard and COVID COVIDnineteen more questions because they want to know
why the case with bio hazards goingthrough without the proper you know, stamps
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or so this Oh, this guyI know went through TSA and he had
a belt of seventy six two byfifty four r uh like PKM ammunition.
But it was dummy. They allhad holes drilled in him. They I
don't even think they were like real. I think it was visibly fake.
And they held it up to thets sapers It's like, hey, can
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I just throw this away before theywent through the line, and the lady
is like, oh no, youcan't do that. You can't throw that.
So it's like, well, it'sjust metal, it's not real.
It's just bits and pieces of metalthat looked like something. Oh I got
to get my my, my,uh whatever. That person's called my boss,
my manager, supervisor. But thatguy just goes right next to him,
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and the guy's like, right inthe trash, can walk through,
no problem? Can I have thoseback? Because they're fucking dummy rounds broy
expensive round yeahs and ship yeah.But that guy gets pulled out of the
line because his bag gets gets uhflagged right, and that the lady behind
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the counter gives them the stink guy. It's like you had a bottle of
water in your bag, pulls outand sets it on the table and he's
like sorry, and so she handsthe bag back and the group of us
run to the gate because we're latenow. And he opens up his bag
and looks inside and there's two poolpins, smoke grenades, and another bottle
of water that the TSA agent didn'tcatch. Quality TSA an abundance of intelligence.
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Yeah, what's that? Hey?Is this flash bang? Okay,
pretty pretty freaking embarrassing. But longstory short, tarlinge guns is very very
easy. The you know, thekey is to make sure that you follow
the rules as whatever they describe thatpoint in time, because there's always changing
on the TSA website and you justhave to keep up on the on the
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current rules as I feel like,for example, do you know you can't
now you can't travel with a razorblade holder? What if it holds a
razor blade, you can't have it, even if it's empty. Really,
so like a box knife or somethinglike that, you can't. Yeah.
So I used to travel with abox cutter that would flip open, right,
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and I would not have a bladein there. And then when I
get to my destination, I wouldput get a blade and put it in
there, whether it be from afacility or a store or whatever. Maybe
sometimes when I mail stuff, I'llmail my knives and things like that.
Yeah, And they're like, yeah, you can't have this. I'm like,
show me, that's the that's thetrick you tell people to show you.
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And they're like, well, it'sa new rule that just can't I
it's we're just trying to This isfor your safety, right, I said,
Actually, it's not for my safety. You're asking me to throw it
away that's not for my safety's shouldway a t F and t S a
dumb focks that fuck each other.But America is safe well making ship up,
making ship up to make them feelsafer, yeah, or give them
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a more important job. But no, So don't be don't be scared about
traveling firearms. Don't be scared abouttraveling kit like. It's all z how
they do with like plates and allthat ship like is that a thing?
I mean maybe in the state,but the federal agencies don't care about that,
Like if the state has a isit if it's illegal for you in
the state to have that stuff?They typically don't care. Does California have
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Do they have a plate law?I don't know because I don't I don't
think pass one. At one point, well, why a state would have
a problem with someone owning body armorcommunists lest they're worried. That means that
the state can't murder that person aseasily the body known to cause cancer.
So California's banned it. So hasbreathing air down there? Yeah, that's
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it could have been used for apottery class, misappropriation of ceramics or dildo.
Okay, let's hear another one.I'm curious your what else? Yeah
from the airport crypt, I meanwe we just I just got pulled out
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twice, both my bags on theway back. Yeah. So we were
flying playing back from north uh,North Carolina, and both my bags got
pulled and I had sucked up.We were cleaning up the RV that we
had, and I found my leathermanand threw it in my carry on for
some dumm reason. I never dothat. I always throw it into my
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suitcase because I know I'm dumb enoughthat I'll leave my leatherman in there.
And my girlfriend was like, oh, hell no, you're not throwing that
thing away, and so she tookmy rolling carry on and checked it.
So I'm I mean, maybe thisis going to turn into a traveling podcast,
not necessarily a fire see's it's it'sfull spectrum traveling. When I travel,
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I'm very particular about how I travel, and so I carry my rucksack
or my rucksack, I carry mycarry on, my like three assault pack
or just a backpack. And thatbackpack has redundancies because I've been stuck in
airports before. So it's got thisreally lightweight blanket, earplugs it's got charging
capabilities, entertainment stuff for my laptop, you know, different things like that
food because you always around food,and the terminals will close the stores,
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and the terminals will close around eleveno'clock at night, so you're you're either
vending machine, which I carry quartersand ones for the vending machines and for
the strippers that are in the orin the airport. And then I also
will carry one bottle of water,one bottle of soda and keep that in
my bag as well. And thenI carry a rolling or ruling a luggage
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and that has like good clothes,more food, more power, more money,
all that type of stuff, alot of redundancies. But Alicia had
checked that bag for me so Iwouldn't lose my leathermen. And then it
turns out that we miss our connectingfight because apparently the baggage people that load
the airplane are equally as incompetent asthe TSA agents because they lost count of
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how many bags and how much theweight was, and so we got stuck
at the gate for forty five minutes, and we missed our connecting flight from
from SFO to or San Francisco toorgan whyah got it? Yeah, Okay,
that sucks. So I was stuckthere for thirteen hours. This she
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was stuck there for nine hours.But you know one of those theoret drove
home. Oh yeah, yeah,absolutely theoretically. Yeah. So one of
the things we did learn though,was if you're going to be stuck in
an airport for more than five hours, it is absolutely worth it to buy
a lounge. So get a passto one of the lounges there. So
we went to United Lounge. TypicallyI go to the Alaska Lounge, but
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you know, it was right nextto our gates, so we used that.
And I mean, how much doyou spend on a meal at an
airport? Twenty bucks per person?It's literally it's Disneyland prices. Yeah,
right, so it's like twenty bucksper person. It's crowded, it's loud,
you're not going to get power.It's going to be very stressful hearing
people overhead. These lounges are aboutsixty dollars unless you have a discount.
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My girlfriend had a discount because shewas military, so she was able to
get it for half price. Ipaid sixty bucks. I ate because I
was there for so long. Iate two meals, there has Wi Fi
you free drinks. Jelly belly isthere for God's sake, Like, come
on, that's literally pogy bait ofdeliciousness. You can eat it for hours.
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Yeah, it's like six dollars apound and I ate like ten pounds
of it. So well, sois it better? Seating better, everything
comfortable? Just better? Yeah?In general, yeah, it is amazing.
Yeah, the food was amazing,And that's our sop from now on
if we get if we end upin a layover, we'll absolutely use that
and get in one of them.Money well spent. Yeah yeah, Now
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is that a situation you could curlup at a ball and sleep if you
needed to that. You know what'sfunny is I was noticing everywhere they're like,
yeah, you know, it's alot of sleep here. Like the
terminal, one of the ladies wascoming through and making sure people weren't sleeping
in the lounge. Well, Idid see one person sleeping that seemed to
be allowed to sleep for a periodof time. But there's a lady going
through make sure people are sleeping.And then there was a yoga room and
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it was like there are four camerasin there. One in each corner of
the place, and then there waslike signs everywhere said no sleeping in here
and stuff. I thought that wasinteresting. They would be fucking only in
the yoga lounge. Yeah, wefucked up your schedule, but we won't
let you sleep. Nope. Thatbrings this something I've been hearing a lot
of lately, is that they're havinga big problem with getting people to want
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to work for the airlines and gettingpilots and so there's been a lot of
issues with flights getting delayed and peoplehaving really long layovers like eight bus hours.
I mean, why did they wantto work for them? They can
never get their shit together. Yeah, well, I think that's evident right
now with the schedules that they have. So like we only had so we
missed our connection flight. That leftus with two options. One was seven
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o'clock, which was seven hours lateror twelve eleven o'clock. So I flew
out at eleven o'clock. My girlfriendflew out at seven o'clock. Yeah,
so I know that the one flightthat I've had to take the last couple
of years going back to Detroit,that the Delta they've now discontinued that flight
(29:25):
so I think it's discontinued my abilityto have to go back there because I'm
not taking like multiple hop flights toget it. I was like, no,
yeah, thanks. I like fromhere from here to Portland is from
here to Seattle to Portland, Andsay, if I wanted to go to
Vegas is from here to Seattle toSalt Lake to Vegas. Yeah yeah,
(29:45):
last time? Fuck would I dothat? Yeah? Last time? I
had to fly on my own forthe first time, and that was I
flew from Portland to Vegas, butI had to go up and connect on
a flight in Seattle. I wentto seatach and then from SeaTac all the
way down to Las Vegas. Don'twhy I had to do that, but
it was like an extra forty fiveminutes since they're going forty five minutes up
forty five minutes back I didn't haveto do. And then coming back,
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I went from Las Vegas McCarran Airportdown to LAX had to go through security
all the other ship because LX isa terrible airport. Back up to Portland,
I went, why is it thatboth ways I had to go out
of my way before I go Iwent to where I want it does.
Alasta no longer have a direct flightfrom Portland to Vegas anymore, because no
I took. I took a VirginAmerica right before they closed down Virgin America
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from mccaren to l e X.And then it was in Alaska from from
Lax to Portland. And I've neverliked Alaska, but I've always had good
luck with Alaska. I've never likedto go to a SEMA to get leave
at six at Portland and I'm inVegas two hours later. It was great,
but you know, and it started. Yeah, Spirit, Spirit goes
(30:55):
as director out and so there waszero percent chance I would take Spirit Airlines.
That's literally Spirit, that's literally SesnaAirlines. That's like depth, that's
like, dude, I'd rather cutmy sack off. That's how I fly
on my girlfriends. Okay, wellthat's different. Different. You're really taking
chances on this. We got tomake enough money we can get a jet
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card and then we can just geta private jet whenever you want, and
then there's no more TSA because it'sa private jet. Awesome, weird,
that really awesome. Yeah, thatwould be really weird. That'd be so
cool. Well, I'm sorry,it was very all over the place,
but I hope it was. No. Actually, you know what, it's
because you were missed last week,and now that you actually were able to,
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you're able to provide some true insighton things that people do run into.
I have never had any issues atTSA or anything like that, but
I have considered if I decided tocheck a gun to actually start just murmuring
all the abart time. Yes,I still wanted to stop you. There
was one time ten years ago,I was flying up from the Bay Area.
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We're flying up out of Oakland,and they stopped me and they're like,
we need to see your hands andcheck it for explosive powder. We
think they might have powder in yourhands. I'm like okay. And then
when they checked my hands, I'mlike they okay. And I kept thinking,
I don't know why, and thenI thought, you know, I
had been out shooting a couple ofweeks before. Oh yeah, some black
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powder from one of the guns onit or something like that, because I
was using my backpack that I usedfor everything. But no, They're just
randomly decided to check me for explosivepowder. I'm like, okay, wasn't
that it was oddly enough that dogthat they have the uh, the gunpowder
dog at PDX. Now, basicallythey run in two by two right by
it. It's way faster. They'relike, and fuck it, just walk
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by this and the dogs like youknow, it's like we're screening out a
lot of dumb shit right now.And you see people getting all nervous.
You're like, oh, is thisfucker getting on my plane? You look
really nervous, bro, You're like, really worried about this ship. I
had I sat down in a rowone time and the lady next to me
threw that pulled down her tray andthrew down chicken bones and was doing her
praying on the flight. Yeah,like the hey, can you throw it?
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And then that flight got struck bylightning, which religion requires you to
pray with chicken bones on the ground. Voodoo okay, voodoo shit, I'll
accept that. I'm sure I heardthe word chicken bone chick. I was
going to Houston, so I wasa little confused, But okay, that's
a creole shit. Or the guythe old seven thirty seven's the engine the
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cells when they when they land,the whole back of the engine reverse thrusts.
Yeah, this fucking asshole thought theengine exploded to try to open to
the doors. Were still doing likeone hundred and eighty miles an hour down
the rungwaye fuck down. The otherone was leaving Portland. I get that
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at six o'clock. At ten o'clockthey've canceled the flight and then take a
red eye to Houston and then Avery, you're saying, not sleeping. So
it's like we're we're we've been upall night at this fucking point. The
kiosk across from us, what dothey sell They sell radios. Well,
(34:20):
at seven o'clock, I'm gonna turnon my demo radio. We're all trying
to sleep to connecting flight. That'sonly forty five minutes. But they couldn't
do that. And the guy sheturns someone to walk over, turn it
off. She turned it back on. Turn it off, turn it back
on. Some dude went over there, just smash it on the ground.
Yells at that bitch, turn onagain. I'll bust your face with it.
That was the end of that.Or the other one left Portland at
(34:46):
six, did not get to Florida, walked into my hotel room at three
am. Oh my god at EastCoast life. Oh I want to say
I had, and then COVID happenedand I'm not fucking flying ever again because
that's it's not man, yeah,it's not worth it anymore. I only
have one truly memorable, like trulymemorable flight experience. And so we were
(35:10):
flying into PDX. It's rough.I mean, I mean we're doing this
ship for about an hour before aplane. That's good times. And I
mean you're actually here and we're likeon a it was we may have been
on A seven twenty seven this Imean, because this is quite a long
time ago, and you're hearing theboop boopo, you're hearing warning buzzers and
shit, and you know, it'slike you're like, okay, well this
(35:30):
is fun. You know. Allthe stewarts is like, man, fuck
this, We're gonna go sit downthis thing, you know, And I'm
like, all right, fuck thedrink card. We're gonna go ahead and
sit down now because this is abullshit. And they're they're sitting down in
some of the even some of thestewarts just like this like god damn,
you know, and they're like,I don't know if you know what,
you know, I don't know iflike Buck Rogers is flying the plane or
(35:52):
the dude they just learn how tofly the plane is flying the plane,
but they have kind of this looklike this isn't so good. And we
come in the wind and mega crosswind. We hit the the uh we hit
the tarmac, and the player goes, wam wam wham. I mean,
yeah, I are a bitch,you know, and now a pilot.
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Ye. Now, the problem wasit was not the fact that there was
a rough landing. Who cares,right, the planes on the ground,
it didn't explode. It's the facta dude two rows in front of me
to the right screamed like a bitch. I mean he's like this goes I
mean it sounded just like that,and it was a real scream, and
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then we hit and the thing levelsout, and everybody's like, is that
you and everybody identify the bitch inthe second row? You know, that's
what everybody. And I'm going toneed to ask the man that did not
have enough confidence in my skill toplease come forwards. I was just having
(37:00):
punch him to the vagina. Wellwhen he he did it, and he
had this look like this because itwas like an involuntary scream, and he's
like this he's doing, like oh, all these people are like everybody's like,
look, man, you gotta die. Die with dignity, you know,
like suffering silence. You don't youknow, you don't do like you
(37:21):
don't go. Video that keeps gettingshared on social media. It's it's sure
all these people like they're about todie at a plane crash. The pilot's
like, you know, do thiswhole thing, like, uh, if
you want to call anyone, goahead and do so right now because we're
gonna die. And this guy getshow the phone starts cussing out look at
the auto shop, like you're afucking asshole. I'm gonna be there in
ten minutes. I'm gonna beat yourfucking ass. You want to talk to
(37:44):
my wife and she's gonna na getme for the last ten minutes. No,
I'm gonna call people I hate andtell them to go fuck themselves.
I want to make sure I clearthe I'm clear on the board. Yeah,
the good one is smooth takeoff,good flight, and you land and
everyone's like oh yeah, I'm like, oh, were we not supposed to
land like that? Like are wesupposed to fucking die? Why for that?
Most that we pay you a waytoo much money to do Jesus Christ.
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I've actually found that to be aregional thing. Really different regionally if
you're traveling to different places, differentcultures do things differently anyway, So hey,
Wes, if we have listeners thatwould like to support us and not
type at us in all caps allthe time, do keep typing in caps
(38:32):
like if you like, I canspear effect tip jar gmail dot com.
That's that's a spot you can sayus a donation. And we're gonna have
merch coming soon. I'm working thatout. We're going to be a part
of the ground zero Merch store,so groundsoremerch dot com. Just you get
the I sent the just the logoover to get that designed to have that
added in. We want to dosome cool stuff like I think we want
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to have a shirt that says likefay Fellow on the back. I think
that's I'll know. Yeah, we'regoing in prison for that one. Probably
Avery post for us. We gotthe unsuppressed banana hammocks. It looks great,
so stay tuned for those, andof course the anatomically correct arm with
the baby, a baby's armhold anapple. This has unsuppressed, you know,
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designed for her pleasure. None ofthose are approved. What I think
we're done? This is going onreels. We're done, all right.
Well, thank you guys for puttingup with our ship today. And remember
when to your rights, whether itpe the First Amendment, Second Amendment,
or all the others, the TSAcan violate them whenever they so choose,
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and stay unsuppressed,
Hey, welcome to unsuppressed. Iam wes with the guys. Where can
we talking about how to travel withyour firearms or replica firearms? This can
also apply the airsoft because the countrythe same way by the FFA and TSA
and all those guys. So we'retalking about how to travel. I'm assuming
we're aften talking about ground travels,was air travel? But Bill, why
(00:25):
don't you go ahead and take takeus away on this? Let me shave
my gun. I want to goon a plane. See, I've never
flown with I've never flown with firearms. It's never been a thing. And
showing me how to do this,well, my question is okay. So
Avery has recently spent quite a bitof time in the air and he's been
you know, you know, beboppingaround the country and around the world,
(00:48):
and because he wanted to actually bringsome depth of education to this program,
he brought up an interesting topic Ithink everybody's wondered about because you know,
you always hear the horror stories ofwell, you know, I was gonna
lie like bring my gun to theairport, and all of a sudden I
was tackled by TSA Because I liketrying to check it through like dude,
dumbass. So this is where Averyhas to take over and explain actually how
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this works. Well, surprisingly,most people are smarter about their guns at
the airport than the check in clerksat whatever provider or whatever carrier. And
the TSA, honestly like TSA havebeen, have told me multiple times that
they are not trained in how toidentify weapons. So I've traveled with both
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airsoft guns, which look extremely realistic, and I have also traveled with real
fire arms. As a matter offact, two weeks ago, I flew
to North Carolina with a rifle casefull of guns and pistols and suppressors and
everything. And yeah, we've shippedthem back via fed X, which surprises
a lot of people. I justwant to ask, can I check this?
(01:53):
Like? Can I is this carryon? Just check it? Yeah,
And so you know, we youget to the terminal, you do
your bag stuff, and then yougo up to them and you're like,
yeah, there's a firearm in here. And most of the time, if
you're running a Pelican case, theyalready assume that it's a firearm, whether
it is or isn't. So that'ssomething to consider too. Is a lot
of times they just look at itand look at the case. And if
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let's say you had fishing equipment oryou had photography equipment anything like that,
if it's a black plastic box,they're going to probably make an assumption that
there's a firearm in there. Andthen if there is, then you just
go about your business, you know, turning it and declaring it and all
that stuff, and it's not abig deal. But if there isn't,
then TSA is going to think thatthere is, and the security lady's going
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to think there is, They're goingto ask you. Gets really annoying.
So when you use your when youchoose what bag you're going to take with
you, that's an important thing toconsider. As a matter of fact,
we just had two camera bodies stolenout of a Pelican case on the way
back. So that was would havebeen Wednesday, last Wednesday, with two
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of our cameras. So no question. Do you have to have locks on
the pelicans in order to adequately servicethe need for going on a plane.
Uh so the rifles need to havethe have locks, but any other baggage
can't. I'd heard a story thatsomebody would throw a receiver into it so
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they could say that there's a weaponand have it treated like a weapon,
which has obviously way more security associatedwith it than uh, you know,
a normal bag or anything. Idon't know if that's realistic or if he
was just being being a little littlebit much, but you know, I
can understand it. After we've hadtwo camera bodyes stolen, kind of camera
ives stolen. They're yeah, bigmoney. Yeah. One of them was
(03:45):
our video camera and one for recordingvideo, and one of them was our
stills. You know now, andeverybody is wondering. I watched Avery press
weights carry bags and shoot guns ona video. Let me tell you his
loving him. That's my man.She's good. Yeah. She was like
that's super hot, and I waslike, I was not ready for that.
(04:06):
You need one of those, uhthe clicker bags for your your clock
that helps with the dot side isno, no, no, that that
thing he's holding them will show yeahthat meal. They're like one hundred bucks,
but it'll help you work your triggerpress and clean mine up. So
yeah, it just interacts. Youcan even hear the click. Oh use
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Yeah, it's you know, it'svery expensive for what it is. One
hundred bucket three D print that forlike five bucks. I actually actually have
the file to three D printed.It's on thing averse and so my plan
is actually printed. You just needa like an M five screw and a
spring and you can three print it. I can send you the springs,
the exact ones, because I haveabout thirty of them. I yeah,
yeah, well they come with awith a little bag of different ones with
(04:54):
different weights. The one that camewith it feels fine. It's a little
bit heavier than the actual but Ilike to do it because it gives my
my trigger finger, you know,some something to work on right now.
Not to templetely derail and not talkabout our idea was because you know,
we are probably yeah, I meanbeing the fact that we are probably one
of the most on topic podcasts outthere. The other thing that goes with
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that is, so when how didyou ship like everything in a box?
Like you said? So, theoriginal plan was for us to ship so
we had receiver sets in a riflethat we were going to give to the
Foundations so that they could get yeah, auction off basically or people could win
them. And then we had ourguns that we're going to have down there
(05:39):
for display. Well, I wasconcerned about those because we needed those guns
for the stages. And a lotof times FedEx we've lost Vegas, we've
lost guns, and last year atthis event in North uh, North Carolina,
we lost guns. So you findthem eventually, right, But FedEx
has a history of losing shit,so we air tag everything. I strongly
recommend that air I mean, nowit's all yeah, yeah, yeah,
(06:02):
I mean I'm smart and I runAndroid, but usually there's somebody that I
can air tag the you know,yeah, with an iPhone. But I
always recommend people do that. Ialways put a business card on the outside
of the box as well. Thelocks cannot be TSA accessible, so they
have to be solid, good locks. Wes. You have pointed out something
(06:23):
about reaching your fingers in there andbeing able to touch the gun. Yeah,
yeah, I heard that fatality I'mshowing. So as long as you
can't reach in and touch the firearm, they're happy. Yeah. I haven't
read that anywhere. However, they'reall idiots, so it doesn't really matter
like that, Like if you cancrack the box. I've had them say
like, oh, you can't,you can't do that. I actually one
(06:43):
time shipping weapons for the government forthe inauguration. We're shipping rifles and pistols
to Washington, DC. And Ihad a flight to flight attendant whatever they're
called. The lady at the countersay, oh, we're not allowed ship
weapons. And I was like,you you realize we're the government, right,
Like, you can probably ship ourweapons to DC so that they can
go do their job. And she'slike, yeah, we can't do it.
(07:04):
And I was like, oh,that's okay, because I have this
memorandum signed by a commander right herethat says we can. And she didn't
even read it. She just pickedit up and looked at it. She's
like, okay, Like I gotto think. It looks like it's on
a piece of paper and see this. You know, there's only a few
times in my life where I'm like, I'm pretty smart person. Well that
was one of them, because beforewe left, I was like, I
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bet I'm gonna need a piece ofpaper, and so I printed off a
piece of paper that said I coulddo this and then signed it. Swanson
moment just like I do what Iwant, whatever I want. Yeah,
yeah, it was fucking ridiculous.He said, is let him do it?
And then it said, you know, colonel, it wasn't even a
(07:46):
real memorandum. It was just,yeah, I made an official as fuck,
put a coffee stand on the thingand everything. That was great.
Not to worry, I have apermit. This just says I can do
what I want. Yeah. SoI just showed it to her and she's
like, oh, okay, andthen they took the guns. But you
know, getting back to it,Yeah, picking your case is very,
(08:07):
very important. I really do notrecommend a cheap, you know, twenty
dollars thirty dollars plastic case from Walmart. I would strongly recommend something with wheels
because you're probably gonna have to carryit, and if you put one rifle
and a pistol and potentially your AMMOin there, then it becomes a big
deal. I like to Yeah,I like a lot separate. Yeah,
(08:28):
it has to be. It hasto be in a separate container. It
can still be in the lock boxwith it, so you could like have
an AMMO can sealed up and dropit still the case. You know,
box, AMMO is still in thecase. It cannot be in the mag
or in the gun. That's whenI interpreted that. I thought it meant
that case, a separate box.So it says here, it says in
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the original Okay, ammunition must bein the original package packaging from the manufacturer.
We're in a package specifically designed tocarry small amounts of ammunition made parentheses
here, made of fiber, woodor metal, with a maximum of eleven
pounds five kilograms per container or customer. Ammunition is not accepted loose or in
(09:16):
a magazine or clip. Okay,So literally it has to the Calama canful
five five six if you want tocheck it nice, yeah, ship it.
So usually what we do is weship our AMMO separately. I don't
I can't remember a time we flewwith ammo, just because it makes it
a lot harder. So we shipstuff as best we can. And then
(09:39):
you know, ammunition, we actuallybuy it on site too, if we
burn through it like at this event, or you just go to you know,
Walmart in any place other than Washington, Oregon and buy your AMMO there.
Just drive over Tennessee real quick bywhat you need my lass back?
You know you're good? Yeah,So yeah, those are all things to
consider. If you want talk andwe're really hitting all over the place,
(10:01):
I probably could have organized this thoughtprocess a little bit better. But you
know, the airsoft guns, I'veactually had more problems flying with airsoft guns
than I do real guns because peopleconsider them or look at them as a
gun, even though it's not agun. And it specifically states in the
TSA's website that aerosoftware replica guns arenot real firearms, and they're not They
don't fall under the restrictions as areal firearm does. So generally, when
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I travel with my airsoft guns,I'll put them in my rucksack. I'll
have a couple bags. Off ofmy rucksack. I'll have a shoulder bag
or like a Duffel bag typing asmaller you know, a gym sized bag
that has my you know, platecarrier or my helmet or my chest rig
or whatever equipment I'm gonna need,and then it has my uniform boots and
that stuff. So when I getto wherever I'm gonna do, if it's
(10:46):
a real firearms exercise or if it'san airsoft exercise, I just have that
bag that I operate out of.So when I get there, you know,
you change out, I take allthat all my clothes off my street,
I put them in the bag,and I put all my work clothes
on, and then when I'm done, I just do the exact opposite,
so everything just rolls back and forthand it's very smooth and efficient that way.
(11:09):
I've set my girlfriend up for thesame way. So when she goes
she has a green bag, Ihave a multiicam bag, and we know
that her stuff is in one,my stuff is in the other, and
all you have to do is justput it on change. You know,
I'll strip my wallet down. Now, I guess this is getting in the
weeds, but I'll strip my walletdown, so I'll leave that in the
bag and stuff like that, soI'm not carrying this fat, stupid wallet
(11:31):
around. But anyways, so withthat mind, do you have to declare
airsoft guns the same way you dothe same aerosoft guns or toys and replicas.
Now, if you don't declare them, it potentially could cause you problems
in the future. Like for meexample, I had an issue in I
had an issue in Louisiana, andI had an issue in DC. And
(11:56):
I think I've had one more,but those were the two big ones.
I had one where the lady clearlyhad no idea what she was talking about,
and then called the cop, andthe cop came over and she threw
her little tantrum and he's like it'sa toy, like what are you talking
about? And then she's like whatabout that? And he picks up the
(12:16):
It's not a suppressor, it's ayou know what, what's those strobe things
that makes the tracer BB's glow.He's like, this is plastic. It's
not real. He's like, well, I don't. I wasn't trained on
how to identify a real firearm.And I was like, yeah, it's
literally your job. I had theDC guy do the same thing, and
the cops couldn't even identify if hewas a real fake gun. So at
(12:37):
that point I said, I said, you guys should you guys should know
if this is a real fake gunjust by looking at it and seeing And
they're like, well, I meanthey could be converted into real firearms,
so we have to treat him asreal farm So I'm like, well,
actually no, it couldn't. Itabsolutely can't. I mean if you looked
at it and then you abs andthen the tsag, it was like,
(13:00):
well, you guys should provide itlike a card. That says it's not
a real firearms. And so Idid the long pause and I looked at
him and I said, so you'retelling me that if I gave you a
card right now that said this isnot a firearm, we could be done.
Did you squeak squeak, squeeze.He stopped and he was like,
oh, yeah, yeah, Iguess that wouldn't make sense. Like,
yeah, it doesn't really make sense, does it. And then the security
(13:24):
guard, now I'm starting to getagitated, not the security guard, but
the cop. He was like,sure, could you please calm down?
Yeah, right, this is nota gun. You got a classic army
off to the side of it.Yeah, not again. Yeah. So
(13:45):
those are those are some of thegreat experiences. So I guess we got
to hear the rest of this becausehow do you resolve it? Because now
we've gotten the mean potatoes of whatThe best part now this is this is
practical for a commercial break. That'sright, you know what, Let's do
a commercial break. Let's come backand we'll finish this out. This is
funny. Those unsuppressed boys sure gotthemselves into a best with the TSA.
(14:11):
Let's see it. It's like it'slike, yes, sir, I feel
like I'm gonna dukes to Habits episoderight there. Alright, guys, we're
gonna take a quick break, pausefor commercials, ads, whatever else we're
gonna put in there. We'll beright back in just a moment, and
(14:37):
we're back on Unsuppressed. Just beforethe break we had left off, there
was a lot of drama going on, and Avery was about ready to scream
and at the ESA agent and acopy Yes, so yeah, the TSA
agent. So I go through security. Okay, so this is DC.
They obviously already it's out there.We'll go to DC, do an Aerosoft
(15:01):
event. Check my bags just likeI did on my way out there.
Thought everything was good, set upmy minecraft, my laptop. Have about
an hour before the plane takes off, so I've got a little bit of
time. Start screwing around, andI get a phone call and it says
Alaskan Airlines. So I immediately startpacking up my computer because I know what's
going on, and answer the phoneand they're like, yeah, can you
you didn't declare some firearms and sowe need to come back through security and
(15:26):
declare them correctly. I'm like,well, actually they're not firearms. They
airsoft guns, and I don't haveto declare them. And she's like,
oh, well, the TSA agentthinks they're firearms. And I'm already walking
right because I need to already know. So I go through go out security,
go to the TSA counter and Iaddress to this person. I say
that, you know, those arenot real guns. They're fake guns.
They're toys. They're replicas. Weuse them for training. And he's like,
(15:50):
well, they look like guns tome. I'm like, well,
obviously you don't know what you're talkingabout. And he's like, well,
I'm just going to call the copsover here. Then I was like,
fucking bet, let's go. Sohe calls the first cop over, some
old guy and he tries to chargethe M four or the AR fifteen looking
gun, and I was like,sir, if you do that, you're
going to break that. Please don'tdo that because these are electric, they're
(16:10):
not gased that the charging handles arefor show. They don't. Yeah,
and they had a little tiny ballpointpen spring that holds them together and it's
easy to rip the charging handle out. So then he writes down the serial
number, like the serial numbers isnot the same and a single problem one
that's ever been created. Then youalso know that or know that the serial
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number was painted on and it wasn'tengraved. Oh no, these are edged.
These were don't look in the magwell, God forbid. Yeah.
I pointed that out to him.I point out the barrel and the magwell
and if you open up the dustcover, uh, you know, obviously
this was an in four, Okay, I did not not taking off.
Yeah, So I made it veryclear, im. I show him the
(16:55):
wires coming out of it for thebattery and all this stuff, and he
just he kept charging it. I'mlike, you, you're gonna break it
if you do that. Like stop. He's like, well, I'm gonna
run the serial number. I'm like, okay, Like that serial number doesn't
exist for this gun. That doesn'texist. Just look at the maguell.
You can see this fucking ghost gun. Bro. So the second cop shows
(17:15):
up and he's like, I don'tknow what the fuck I'm looking at.
This could be a gun, itcould not be a gun. Then the
third cop shows up and that's whenI'm like, all right, I'm done.
I'm done being nice because I'm tryingto be. And then they started
asking me like, well, arethere cards, like will the comp airsoft
company provide a card to let meknow that's not a real gun? And
I said, well, you're anidiot if you think that that is a
(17:37):
good idea, because I'll just printhim off with my printer and will be
good to go. Yeaht a gun. Yeah. So so then the cops
like, sir, could you pleasecalm down, like we're just trying to
get the bottom of this. SoI'm like, actually, I've been calm
for the past thirty five minutes whileyou guys trying to figure out what is
a gun and what isn't a gunfor your own rules. And I at
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this point already have the TSA rulesup on my phone and I'm showing them
right here. The replica this isyou guys don't know what you're talking about.
That's one situation then, and Iknow way done yet. I want
to hear how this was had thiswas solved. I basically said, you
guys are idiots, and they agreed, and I packed the guns up and
I went through security and got onmy flight and came home. But the
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best one, this is the bestone. You know what the best well
hold on did they say we're reallysorry. That would actually happen to be
a human being. These cops eversay sorry only in the courtroom, don't
have to. I'd always assume thatyou should just declare the airsoft guns because
(18:44):
you just a lot of look atas an idiot and doesn't know the difference.
Yeah, a lot of the YouTubers, the airsoft YouTubers, they carry
them and treat them just like realfirearms. And yeah, they do that,
and maybe it's better, maybe it'sworse. I've had I've had real
firems and vegas come through the conveyorbelt line. That's awesome. Yeah,
you like, so we have somebodystanding over by the the you know,
(19:11):
the tables, the right office spacesfor the for the baggage claim area,
which is where they're supposed to comethrough. Then they check your ID and
make sure that it's registered, thebag is registered to you, and then
you can take them right But they'lljust PLoP right out on the line where
anybody off the street can literally justwalk in and grab them and walk out.
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Yeah, and like I said,if it's in a pelican case,
if it's in a rifle looking case, like you kind of have an idea
what it is. Well, thatwas I didn't like t REX. They
talked about that, like, hey, put like camera stickers and shut all
of the Pelican case or something tomis identify. I'm like, but I
was thinking to myself, like,well, that's even more applicable for someone
to want to steal, you know, like you see that case, like,
(19:52):
oh man, there's a really expensivecamera equipment here, and that's it's
not even why the guitar cases nowto just put hazardous material stickers on all
air stuff and biohazard and COVID COVIDnineteen more questions because they want to know
why the case with bio hazards goingthrough without the proper you know, stamps
(20:14):
or so this Oh, this guyI know went through TSA and he had
a belt of seventy six two byfifty four r uh like PKM ammunition.
But it was dummy. They allhad holes drilled in him. They I
don't even think they were like real. I think it was visibly fake.
And they held it up to thets sapers It's like, hey, can
(20:36):
I just throw this away before theywent through the line, and the lady
is like, oh no, youcan't do that. You can't throw that.
So it's like, well, it'sjust metal, it's not real.
It's just bits and pieces of metalthat looked like something. Oh I got
to get my my, my,uh whatever. That person's called my boss,
my manager, supervisor. But thatguy just goes right next to him,
(20:57):
and the guy's like, right inthe trash, can walk through,
no problem? Can I have thoseback? Because they're fucking dummy rounds broy
expensive round yeahs and ship yeah.But that guy gets pulled out of the
line because his bag gets gets uhflagged right, and that the lady behind
(21:18):
the counter gives them the stink guy. It's like you had a bottle of
water in your bag, pulls outand sets it on the table and he's
like sorry, and so she handsthe bag back and the group of us
run to the gate because we're latenow. And he opens up his bag
and looks inside and there's two poolpins, smoke grenades, and another bottle
of water that the TSA agent didn'tcatch. Quality TSA an abundance of intelligence.
(21:42):
Yeah, what's that? Hey?Is this flash bang? Okay,
pretty pretty freaking embarrassing. But longstory short, tarlinge guns is very very
easy. The you know, thekey is to make sure that you follow
the rules as whatever they describe thatpoint in time, because there's always changing
on the TSA website and you justhave to keep up on the on the
(22:04):
current rules as I feel like,for example, do you know you can't
now you can't travel with a razorblade holder? What if it holds a
razor blade, you can't have it, even if it's empty. Really,
so like a box knife or somethinglike that, you can't. Yeah.
So I used to travel with abox cutter that would flip open, right,
(22:27):
and I would not have a bladein there. And then when I
get to my destination, I wouldput get a blade and put it in
there, whether it be from afacility or a store or whatever. Maybe
sometimes when I mail stuff, I'llmail my knives and things like that.
Yeah, And they're like, yeah, you can't have this. I'm like,
show me, that's the that's thetrick you tell people to show you.
(22:48):
And they're like, well, it'sa new rule that just can't I
it's we're just trying to This isfor your safety, right, I said,
Actually, it's not for my safety. You're asking me to throw it
away that's not for my safety's shouldway a t F and t S a
dumb focks that fuck each other.But America is safe well making ship up,
making ship up to make them feelsafer, yeah, or give them
(23:10):
a more important job. But no, So don't be don't be scared about
traveling firearms. Don't be scared abouttraveling kit like. It's all z how
they do with like plates and allthat ship like is that a thing?
I mean maybe in the state,but the federal agencies don't care about that,
Like if the state has a isit if it's illegal for you in
the state to have that stuff?They typically don't care. Does California have
(23:33):
Do they have a plate law?I don't know because I don't I don't
think pass one. At one point, well, why a state would have
a problem with someone owning body armorcommunists lest they're worried. That means that
the state can't murder that person aseasily the body known to cause cancer.
So California's banned it. So hasbreathing air down there? Yeah, that's
(23:56):
it could have been used for apottery class, misappropriation of ceramics or dildo.
Okay, let's hear another one.I'm curious your what else? Yeah
from the airport crypt, I meanwe we just I just got pulled out
(24:18):
twice, both my bags on theway back. Yeah. So we were
flying playing back from north uh,North Carolina, and both my bags got
pulled and I had sucked up.We were cleaning up the RV that we
had, and I found my leathermanand threw it in my carry on for
some dumm reason. I never dothat. I always throw it into my
(24:38):
suitcase because I know I'm dumb enoughthat I'll leave my leatherman in there.
And my girlfriend was like, oh, hell no, you're not throwing that
thing away, and so she tookmy rolling carry on and checked it.
So I'm I mean, maybe thisis going to turn into a traveling podcast,
not necessarily a fire see's it's it'sfull spectrum traveling. When I travel,
(25:00):
I'm very particular about how I travel, and so I carry my rucksack
or my rucksack, I carry mycarry on, my like three assault pack
or just a backpack. And thatbackpack has redundancies because I've been stuck in
airports before. So it's got thisreally lightweight blanket, earplugs it's got charging
capabilities, entertainment stuff for my laptop, you know, different things like that
food because you always around food,and the terminals will close the stores,
(25:23):
and the terminals will close around eleveno'clock at night, so you're you're either
vending machine, which I carry quartersand ones for the vending machines and for
the strippers that are in the orin the airport. And then I also
will carry one bottle of water,one bottle of soda and keep that in
my bag as well. And thenI carry a rolling or ruling a luggage
(25:45):
and that has like good clothes,more food, more power, more money,
all that type of stuff, alot of redundancies. But Alicia had
checked that bag for me so Iwouldn't lose my leathermen. And then it
turns out that we miss our connectingfight because apparently the baggage people that load
the airplane are equally as incompetent asthe TSA agents because they lost count of
(26:07):
how many bags and how much theweight was, and so we got stuck
at the gate for forty five minutes, and we missed our connecting flight from
from SFO to or San Francisco toorgan whyah got it? Yeah, Okay,
that sucks. So I was stuckthere for thirteen hours. This she
(26:29):
was stuck there for nine hours.But you know one of those theoret drove
home. Oh yeah, yeah,absolutely theoretically. Yeah. So one of
the things we did learn though,was if you're going to be stuck in
an airport for more than five hours, it is absolutely worth it to buy
a lounge. So get a passto one of the lounges there. So
we went to United Lounge. TypicallyI go to the Alaska Lounge, but
(26:52):
you know, it was right nextto our gates, so we used that.
And I mean, how much doyou spend on a meal at an
airport? Twenty bucks per person?It's literally it's Disneyland prices. Yeah,
right, so it's like twenty bucksper person. It's crowded, it's loud,
you're not going to get power.It's going to be very stressful hearing
people overhead. These lounges are aboutsixty dollars unless you have a discount.
(27:14):
My girlfriend had a discount because shewas military, so she was able to
get it for half price. Ipaid sixty bucks. I ate because I
was there for so long. Iate two meals, there has Wi Fi
you free drinks. Jelly belly isthere for God's sake, Like, come
on, that's literally pogy bait ofdeliciousness. You can eat it for hours.
(27:34):
Yeah, it's like six dollars apound and I ate like ten pounds
of it. So well, sois it better? Seating better, everything
comfortable? Just better? Yeah?In general, yeah, it is amazing.
Yeah, the food was amazing,And that's our sop from now on
if we get if we end upin a layover, we'll absolutely use that
and get in one of them.Money well spent. Yeah yeah, Now
(27:56):
is that a situation you could curlup at a ball and sleep if you
needed to that. You know what'sfunny is I was noticing everywhere they're like,
yeah, you know, it's alot of sleep here. Like the
terminal, one of the ladies wascoming through and making sure people weren't sleeping
in the lounge. Well, Idid see one person sleeping that seemed to
be allowed to sleep for a periodof time. But there's a lady going
through make sure people are sleeping.And then there was a yoga room and
(28:19):
it was like there are four camerasin there. One in each corner of
the place, and then there waslike signs everywhere said no sleeping in here
and stuff. I thought that wasinteresting. They would be fucking only in
the yoga lounge. Yeah, wefucked up your schedule, but we won't
let you sleep. Nope. Thatbrings this something I've been hearing a lot
of lately, is that they're havinga big problem with getting people to want
(28:40):
to work for the airlines and gettingpilots and so there's been a lot of
issues with flights getting delayed and peoplehaving really long layovers like eight bus hours.
I mean, why did they wantto work for them? They can
never get their shit together. Yeah, well, I think that's evident right
now with the schedules that they have. So like we only had so we
missed our connection flight. That leftus with two options. One was seven
(29:03):
o'clock, which was seven hours lateror twelve eleven o'clock. So I flew
out at eleven o'clock. My girlfriendflew out at seven o'clock. Yeah,
so I know that the one flightthat I've had to take the last couple
of years going back to Detroit,that the Delta they've now discontinued that flight
(29:25):
so I think it's discontinued my abilityto have to go back there because I'm
not taking like multiple hop flights toget it. I was like, no,
yeah, thanks. I like fromhere from here to Portland is from
here to Seattle to Portland, Andsay, if I wanted to go to
Vegas is from here to Seattle toSalt Lake to Vegas. Yeah yeah,
(29:45):
last time? Fuck would I dothat? Yeah? Last time? I
had to fly on my own forthe first time, and that was I
flew from Portland to Vegas, butI had to go up and connect on
a flight in Seattle. I wentto seatach and then from SeaTac all the
way down to Las Vegas. Don'twhy I had to do that, but
it was like an extra forty fiveminutes since they're going forty five minutes up
forty five minutes back I didn't haveto do. And then coming back,
(30:07):
I went from Las Vegas McCarran Airportdown to LAX had to go through security
all the other ship because LX isa terrible airport. Back up to Portland,
I went, why is it thatboth ways I had to go out
of my way before I go Iwent to where I want it does.
Alasta no longer have a direct flightfrom Portland to Vegas anymore, because no
I took. I took a VirginAmerica right before they closed down Virgin America
(30:32):
from mccaren to l e X.And then it was in Alaska from from
Lax to Portland. And I've neverliked Alaska, but I've always had good
luck with Alaska. I've never likedto go to a SEMA to get leave
at six at Portland and I'm inVegas two hours later. It was great,
but you know, and it started. Yeah, Spirit, Spirit goes
(30:55):
as director out and so there waszero percent chance I would take Spirit Airlines.
That's literally Spirit, that's literally SesnaAirlines. That's like depth, that's
like, dude, I'd rather cutmy sack off. That's how I fly
on my girlfriends. Okay, wellthat's different. Different. You're really taking
chances on this. We got tomake enough money we can get a jet
(31:18):
card and then we can just geta private jet whenever you want, and
then there's no more TSA because it'sa private jet. Awesome, weird,
that really awesome. Yeah, thatwould be really weird. That'd be so
cool. Well, I'm sorry,it was very all over the place,
but I hope it was. No. Actually, you know what, it's
because you were missed last week,and now that you actually were able to,
(31:41):
you're able to provide some true insighton things that people do run into.
I have never had any issues atTSA or anything like that, but
I have considered if I decided tocheck a gun to actually start just murmuring
all the abart time. Yes,I still wanted to stop you. There
was one time ten years ago,I was flying up from the Bay Area.
(32:05):
We're flying up out of Oakland,and they stopped me and they're like,
we need to see your hands andcheck it for explosive powder. We
think they might have powder in yourhands. I'm like okay. And then
when they checked my hands, I'mlike they okay. And I kept thinking,
I don't know why, and thenI thought, you know, I
had been out shooting a couple ofweeks before. Oh yeah, some black
(32:25):
powder from one of the guns onit or something like that, because I
was using my backpack that I usedfor everything. But no, They're just
randomly decided to check me for explosivepowder. I'm like, okay, wasn't
that it was oddly enough that dogthat they have the uh, the gunpowder
dog at PDX. Now, basicallythey run in two by two right by
it. It's way faster. They'relike, and fuck it, just walk
(32:49):
by this and the dogs like youknow, it's like we're screening out a
lot of dumb shit right now.And you see people getting all nervous.
You're like, oh, is thisfucker getting on my plane? You look
really nervous, bro, You're like, really worried about this ship. I
had I sat down in a rowone time and the lady next to me
threw that pulled down her tray andthrew down chicken bones and was doing her
praying on the flight. Yeah,like the hey, can you throw it?
(33:14):
And then that flight got struck bylightning, which religion requires you to
pray with chicken bones on the ground. Voodoo okay, voodoo shit, I'll
accept that. I'm sure I heardthe word chicken bone chick. I was
going to Houston, so I wasa little confused, But okay, that's
a creole shit. Or the guythe old seven thirty seven's the engine the
(33:37):
cells when they when they land,the whole back of the engine reverse thrusts.
Yeah, this fucking asshole thought theengine exploded to try to open to
the doors. Were still doing likeone hundred and eighty miles an hour down
the rungwaye fuck down. The otherone was leaving Portland. I get that
(34:00):
at six o'clock. At ten o'clockthey've canceled the flight and then take a
red eye to Houston and then Avery, you're saying, not sleeping. So
it's like we're we're we've been upall night at this fucking point. The
kiosk across from us, what dothey sell They sell radios. Well,
(34:20):
at seven o'clock, I'm gonna turnon my demo radio. We're all trying
to sleep to connecting flight. That'sonly forty five minutes. But they couldn't
do that. And the guy sheturns someone to walk over, turn it
off. She turned it back on. Turn it off, turn it back
on. Some dude went over there, just smash it on the ground.
Yells at that bitch, turn onagain. I'll bust your face with it.
That was the end of that.Or the other one left Portland at
(34:46):
six, did not get to Florida, walked into my hotel room at three
am. Oh my god at EastCoast life. Oh I want to say
I had, and then COVID happenedand I'm not fucking flying ever again because
that's it's not man, yeah,it's not worth it anymore. I only
have one truly memorable, like trulymemorable flight experience. And so we were
(35:10):
flying into PDX. It's rough.I mean, I mean we're doing this
ship for about an hour before aplane. That's good times. And I
mean you're actually here and we're likeon a it was we may have been
on A seven twenty seven this Imean, because this is quite a long
time ago, and you're hearing theboop boopo, you're hearing warning buzzers and
shit, and you know, it'slike you're like, okay, well this
(35:30):
is fun. You know. Allthe stewarts is like, man, fuck
this, We're gonna go sit downthis thing, you know, And I'm
like, all right, fuck thedrink card. We're gonna go ahead and
sit down now because this is abullshit. And they're they're sitting down in
some of the even some of thestewarts just like this like god damn,
you know, and they're like,I don't know if you know what,
you know, I don't know iflike Buck Rogers is flying the plane or
(35:52):
the dude they just learn how tofly the plane is flying the plane,
but they have kind of this looklike this isn't so good. And we
come in the wind and mega crosswind. We hit the the uh we hit
the tarmac, and the player goes, wam wam wham. I mean,
yeah, I are a bitch,you know, and now a pilot.
(36:13):
Ye. Now, the problem wasit was not the fact that there was
a rough landing. Who cares,right, the planes on the ground,
it didn't explode. It's the facta dude two rows in front of me
to the right screamed like a bitch. I mean he's like this goes I
mean it sounded just like that,and it was a real scream, and
(36:37):
then we hit and the thing levelsout, and everybody's like, is that
you and everybody identify the bitch inthe second row? You know, that's
what everybody. And I'm going toneed to ask the man that did not
have enough confidence in my skill toplease come forwards. I was just having
(37:00):
punch him to the vagina. Wellwhen he he did it, and he
had this look like this because itwas like an involuntary scream, and he's
like this he's doing, like oh, all these people are like everybody's like,
look, man, you gotta die. Die with dignity, you know,
like suffering silence. You don't youknow, you don't do like you
(37:21):
don't go. Video that keeps gettingshared on social media. It's it's sure
all these people like they're about todie at a plane crash. The pilot's
like, you know, do thiswhole thing, like, uh, if
you want to call anyone, goahead and do so right now because we're
gonna die. And this guy getshow the phone starts cussing out look at
the auto shop, like you're afucking asshole. I'm gonna be there in
ten minutes. I'm gonna beat yourfucking ass. You want to talk to
(37:44):
my wife and she's gonna na getme for the last ten minutes. No,
I'm gonna call people I hate andtell them to go fuck themselves.
I want to make sure I clearthe I'm clear on the board. Yeah,
the good one is smooth takeoff,good flight, and you land and
everyone's like oh yeah, I'm like, oh, were we not supposed to
land like that? Like are wesupposed to fucking die? Why for that?
Most that we pay you a waytoo much money to do Jesus Christ.
(38:08):
I've actually found that to be aregional thing. Really different regionally if
you're traveling to different places, differentcultures do things differently anyway, So hey,
Wes, if we have listeners thatwould like to support us and not
type at us in all caps allthe time, do keep typing in caps
(38:32):
like if you like, I canspear effect tip jar gmail dot com.
That's that's a spot you can sayus a donation. And we're gonna have
merch coming soon. I'm working thatout. We're going to be a part
of the ground zero Merch store,so groundsoremerch dot com. Just you get
the I sent the just the logoover to get that designed to have that
added in. We want to dosome cool stuff like I think we want
(38:54):
to have a shirt that says likefay Fellow on the back. I think
that's I'll know. Yeah, we'regoing in prison for that one. Probably
Avery post for us. We gotthe unsuppressed banana hammocks. It looks great,
so stay tuned for those, andof course the anatomically correct arm with
the baby, a baby's armhold anapple. This has unsuppressed, you know,
(39:15):
designed for her pleasure. None ofthose are approved. What I think
we're done? This is going onreels. We're done, all right.
Well, thank you guys for puttingup with our ship today. And remember
when to your rights, whether itpe the First Amendment, Second Amendment,
or all the others, the TSAcan violate them whenever they so choose,
(39:37):
and stay unsuppressed,
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