March 12, 2024 • 37 mins
There seems to be a trend on social media of people showing apathy towards their fellow man on the streets. One instance of a TikTok trend shows a car running over pedestrians in Seattle as part of a premeditated action. Is this a new phase in our society? Will restricting people's access to automobiles end the violence?
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Hey, everybody, welcome to unsuppressed. I am less with Bill and Avery.
Pat couldn't make it today, butsince his best and we had last
big off, we had stuff goingon, so we're back. Holiday season
gets crazy for us. Of course, he has a great topic that we're
going to talk about for you guyshere today, and let's go ahead jump
right into it. Actually, Bill, I think you had to me you
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want to talk about first. Actually, yeah, So being innovative is something
that the guy that Avery that that'sone of his things, Like, he's
really innovative and he had a reallygreat idea. And we are people who
like to practice what we preach asfar as developing preparedness and staying learning,
because the key to being good atanything is if you're going to know it
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all, then you've stopped learning.And realistically you're the person's on the decline
of your abilities. Avery myself,I'm sure Wes you're in the same boat.
You always want to learn, youalways want to grow. So January
sixth, Well, actually, Avery, this is a great way to you
know what, I'm going to askyou, what do How do you want
to present it to everybody so theycan be involved. Yeah, so basically
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I have been part of with acompany that uses a tech which is basically
a Google Maps on steroids that youcan share your locations with. We use
that for a lot of events anddifferent things like that, and I wanted
to get a hands on class ofwhere when I walked away from it,
I had everything I needed to beable to operate the class. And I
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was talking to a bunch of otherpeople and they were like, yeah,
that'd be really cool if we coulddo that. So I reached out to
one of my friends who works forthe military and he does basically network development
for the ATTACH. So I askedhim if you'd be offered willing to offer
us a class, and he saywould And that made me start thinking like,
this is probably a need for alot of people out there, different
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advanced skill sets where a YouTube videojust doesn't cut it. YouTube videos nowadays
are just bulk food for the masses, Like they really don't have any nutrients
in them. And so you canwatch I watched the video or a guy
was talking about how ATVs are greatuse in the shit hit the fan scenario,
except you need to remember that theyuse fuel. It's like, yeah,
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I think we all recognize that,right, So what I was thinking
is there's now a time where weneed a different platform where people can absorb
the very nutrient dense information and comeaway from a class, let's say,
fully understanding what their class material was, along with a product at the end
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of it. So we're going tooffer a series of classes now where there'll
be a syllabus basically a packing listif you will, but what you need
to come to the table with andwhen you walk away from it, it'll
be transformed into a fully functioning toolthat you'll be able to use depending on
what the class is. Right,So, for example, the first one
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is ATACH you'll come to the meetingor the zoom meaning I think is the
platform we're going to use for thisone, and you will be able to
walk away from it fully understanding howto install and operate inside of ATECH on
your smartphone. So all the moneyis going to go to the instructor on
this one. If anybody's interested.It's January sixth is when the class is
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going to happen. Just stay tunedfor our social media posts on when that's
going to be, like the dateand time and all that stuff. Well,
the follow on with that is isthat what's okay? What's vital about
having? Well, like you said, nutrient dance teaching versus YouTube creator's content.
YouTube creators create content based on justcreating content. Try to get as
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many things out there as fast aspossible. Shot got it out there.
Why what does that do for youas the end user? Well, you
get a thirty thousand foot view andthink you know something, but you know
shit, You have no idea whatThere's so many steps in between. You
could say, oh, I justsaw a guy run into a room,
right, just as a colloquialism,because so many people like the high speed
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load drag. You know, music'splaying and guys running rooms and shooting targets.
There are so many things going onthere that you have to get down
to the micro level. You haveto get down to the baby Slops level
to truly be able to absorb andthen understand those processes. And that's the
intent of these classes. You're providingindividuals the basis of how to use a
tool. It's it's truly instructional andthat goes from well, the gambit is
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from medical to just anything. It'slike whatever's on the stars and the catalog
of individuals that Avery has at hisdisposal is numerous and deep. So we're
going to have a very successful run. As far as instruction, what I'm
jacked up about is I don't haveto teach. I get to learn,
and that is the best thing ever. I'd love to learn. It's great.
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So I can't wait for January sixth, not like the one few years
ago, but it's probably the bestand the worst date for that. But
it makes it's a Saturday. Soit's a Saturday exactly? Is that?
First? I think I believe itto be the first Saturday of the new
year, which is the way wepicked. And then coincidentally, Yeah,
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but you know, one of thethings we're going to be doing is offering
at minimum three series of classes,so a one, two hundred, and
three hundred level. So the onehundred for like a tax for example,
is going to be installing and gettingfamiliar with atach this level two hundred series
is going to be incorporating other devicesinto the comms plan, so whether that
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be like Beoufang radios or whatever othermesh, whatever, that mesh is probably
the direction we're going to be teaching. And then the three hundred would actually
be like a field problem where yougo out and you actually utilize these devices,
navigate with them, maybe even dosome fox hunting, try and triangulate
people who are using radios and such. So it'll be really cool to see
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this progress and growing too. It'slike a life of its own. And
not to mention everybody who is alist who's reading this or watching this or
depending on how you're watching it orlistening to it, in our private network,
you can provide. You can actuallyrequest classes. There's something that you'd
be interested in learning that you'd neverbe able to learn, like you know
the you know, like Wes he'strying to figure out the love of another
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woman. You know, just sometimeshow to hit on chicks or something.
That's fine. But I mean likein the we're talking in like the tactical
or user space, whether it's youknow, like Avery's even done homestead style
farming. Like there's a great dealof information that is out there, and
it's we're wanting to create an environmentwhere it's a learning environment and it's also
has depth so you're walk it's awalk, there's gonna be walkway material.
But the question that I know alot of you might have said, is
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why the fuck would I need tohave a tech? Well, that is
a It is a really interesting programand it's something that you could use like
hunting. You can use it,I mean, hiking, you can use
it in a lot of different places. You can use it under a lot
of stress. It's not about theend of time stuff. It could be
used in a community network. Imean there's there are tools, and it
can be integrated into a FEMA program. It could be it can be is
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you know, implemented into a communityresponse to an emergency. Yeah, just
use a tack. You can useatach when you take your family to the
fair exactly you can see them,you know, you know where they're at.
Yeah, so you guys at we'reover here. And then you're like,
I don't know where that's at.We're by the elephant stand, which
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the tuo stand or somebody give meall thirty of them? Okay, so
which one? Okay? Now Ican see you on the map. It's
there. And my thought is isthat I have tried to use atach and
a bunch of it's different iterations thatI've seen, like for your download,
but I have always stumbled it's alwayslike a setup issue. I'm like,
man, what is going wrong withthis? So that's one of the reasons
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I'm super excited about it. Isnot it's not just you know, hey,
I'm going to go do this class. It's going to be very cost
effective because the costs are going tobe economical. It's not going to be
one of those you know, classesthat blow your bank account up. It's
about developing skill sets and helping.Communicating and community absolutely is bringing us closer
together because you know, I mean, communications are the backbone of any successful
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campaign and anything you're doing. Sowe should definitely put that on. And
then I think we should do aclass for everyone over on aftermath, because
we do webinars over there with Clydeand I Gable all the time I was
presentation. I mean, we didthat one got you know, kind of
like an open call, you getto know the guys kind of a call
a couple of months ago. Sodo something like that and just have like
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a teaching session sounds great. Ijust can't wait until there's another like,
uh like group party that shows upso we can all get into trouble with
the pool table. That's gonna bea lot of fun. So yeah,
just saying crampus, uh, gettogether we did. That was like that
was two years ago, wasn't it. Well we went to a CD bar
with the pool table and commenced tostart shooting pool and it just started going
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downhill. Was terrible. Oh yeah, yeah, you know it is one
of those spots part time. Imean it was the DJ, the DJA
over at the sidebark because he youdidn't know how to run the levels of
a loud speakers and we were oh, yes, right, because he was
killing it. Yeah, that oneran out because it was just they're doing
karaoke. When you have someone thatcan't sing on key singing and the speakers
are too loud, that's what karaokeis. It's just a bunch of people
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who can't sing. Yeah, butyou usually have to alcohol, so if
you go to the other side ofthe bar you can kind of get away
from it, or you can tuneit out. He had it so loud
that like his ears were bleeding.Yeah, it was. It was on
factor of eleven. They cranked itup a little bit. Now, you
know what avery thinking about it Agreat way to maybe provide something to the
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aftermath network would be maybe a boobooor rout kit something for packing. I
think that's something. I'll say this, guys, I've used his ruck pack
and his booboo kit design for thirteenplus years. I've used this. I've
used that design because it does there'salmost no augmentation, small changes or small
ads, but the basis of everythingis there. Yeah, so off,
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they'll set ups that we can have, like a camera pointing out your hands.
Avery, you can just show ushow you get put using your hands,
putting things into the bag, magicfingers. Oh right, all right,
So we did have a discussion forthe time we're gona play Devil's advocate.
They'll why don't you go ahead andset the scene for us here.
Imagine being young, stupid, andwilling to use a car, a vehicle,
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a motor vehicle as a weapon,and society blames you strikingly for running
people over and saying things like hitthat bitch as you're running them over.
Imagine that's the society we live in, and that we have a humanity issue.
Take it west, you take thosethings, and you have people to
have a complete disregard for human life. The point of the appath they i'd
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say, and then you put thembehind the wheel of a car and they
want to get TikTok clicks. That'sa weird way to get clicks though.
So here was my issue with thewhole thing. So I see this video
and it says, hey, graphicimagy, So of course you say,
must see you know, you gotto see it. And they're watching these
these people run people over, andI'm like, Okay, this is unique.
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This is not something you'd expect becauseI thought it looked like Portland when
I saw it with Seattle, MikeTomato, Tomato. So here's the thing.
I literally know that I am partof the problem with apathy because the
first thing I thought is is that'san assault car. We should definitely ban
cars now because of seeing that.I mean, it was just literally the
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first thing I thought, and thatit was I can't believe those people in
marketing to come and take your caraway. We just want to ban the
cars that are being used for thesethese mass runovers. No, I want
to just take them all away.This man all ther That's the only answer,
right, No. But I meanthe point is, the point is
with this is that I went toa place that was non human, like
I took the humanity out of itabout the victims of what was going on,
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where I always blame the people whoare doing this thing whatever, whatever
it is, whether it's a massshooting or someone obviously running people over,
although you know that's it, it'sthe same thing. It's just a tool,
right. Well, I don't understandhow people have a disconnect about those
items. Well, actually, Ithink I may have an idea. Why
there's a disconnect is because people theysay, well, I need a car.
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I have to get a car toget from point A to point B.
That is something I need. Well, and you don't need a gun,
right, That's because that's usually thethat's usually the argument. So no,
you can always call a cop.The cop will take you to where
you need to go because they're thereto protect and serve. But he can
drive a car too and run.I mean, well, you know,
but anyway, I digress. Breathalyzersinstalled in every single car, so we
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can never have drug driving ever again. So my question is, with with
that in mind, with that inmind, is this the beginning of the
next phase of like lunatic behavior?Is this the thing? I mean?
Because and how do you protect yourselffrom that. Does that mean get your
head out of your phone, keepyour ear plugs out, pay attention when
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you're walking around. I mean usingsome common sense because I mean, if
that's where we're really looking at,that is actually just man, we are
really on the edge of armageddon ofstupidity. I mean, I just people
have really lost their lost all theirpoints. I mean, yeah, normally
to just you know, let theidiot's idiots and they'll work them, it
all work itself out. But inthis case, you have the idiots running
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over people that probably aren't idiots.They're just mind minding their own business,
walking along the side of the roador crossing the street, and they're gonna
run over by these douchebags who forsome reason think that it's fun to hit
people with a car. I don'tparticularly understand that because that would be a
nightmare. But they're like, oh, yeah, I just run this guy
over. Oh I mean, okay, did you see the video? Every
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did? Are you aware of thestory? Yeah? It's I mean it's
disturbing just because exactly what you'd expect. Yeah, it's like a Batman movie,
you know, it's yestopian, thesame kind of thing. Yeah,
it looks like something pulled out ofthe front of a movie and it doesn't
feel real. If anyone's ever seensome how many people are it? This
video is one, but apparently it'sbecoming a trend. It's like you hear
the knockout game. Yeah, yes, a knockout game ten years ago.
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Ours, Yeah, these are ontwenty thirteen, twenty fourteen. They're just
locking up the people and punch themthe side of the head as far as
I can and knocking them out.And you know, one of the guys
they had pulled in had such alow IQ that he couldn't comprehend what's the
right term if you asked him ahypothetical let's he couldn't understand just common hypothetical
questions. So he said, hey, look, how would you feel someone
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punched you in the side of thehead like that and knocked you out?
No one punched me in the sideof the head, but how would you
feel if they did. We talkedabout no one punched me in the side
of the head. And so that'sthe level of stupid that we're dealing with
here. People that either that orthey're just that obtuse that they're going to
be that arrogant that they would notwant to answer the question. Yeah,
I personally feel that most people aresmarter than they put off on certain things.
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When you're doing criminal behavior, youwere going to claim that you didn't
know that you were doing anything wrong, because that's the best chance to you
not spending any extra time behind bars, you know. So, I don't
know. I don't foresee if thisbecomes a trend that is really not going
to be good. But people getrun over all the time. This is
his first time. I've sent iton TikTok where it was like they were
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like happy about it. That wasthat was kind of a new thing.
So if it becomes a targeted thing, I think the best way for us,
maybe on this program, to orientit is what are some measures that
you could take to prevent you fromgetting ran over? So I mean things
like not well, don't don't stayon your phone, stay looking around.
I mean I talked a class.Yeah, yeah, stay out of the
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Yeah, stay out of Fishman's werenot that's out of SF, but yeah,
stay out of the fish area.I would say we're high visibility vest,
but that's for preventing accent over andovers. If it's intentions were's some
dude clothing so you can get betweenthe cars quickly. No. No,
My thought is is that I taughta class about situational awareness for people in
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urban areas, saying, hey,you know where you're going to walk out
of a building, you're going touse You're you're gonna always, you know,
look to the side that's going tobe open. You're gonna always do
your your your distance checks, andyou're going to look for threats and blah
blah blah. You know what doto have this whole casket of effects.
I think it's the same idea.You don't stare at your phone the whole
time and you stay in your ownlittle world. I think that's a great
way to improve your situational awareness.I think that's one of the biggest things
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I think everybody's guilty of, aswell as because of air pods and things
like that that are the ultimate trendin you know, being able to listen
to stuff and you know, stayin your own little world on podcasts or
you know, listen to music whateverit is, or being on the phone.
Maybe you have one out so youhave a little more hearing, you
know, instead of both lugged in. You know, you just reminded me
of the story I have. Itwas around Thanksgiving of twenty fifteen. I
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was heading to a job interview toget the worst job of my entire life,
but I needed the job for themoney, and right over to the
Max station and all the trains werefrozen and they were bringing in buses to
replace them as up and they saida girl hadn't been run over. And
actually my picture showed up in theOregonians story for that because they had a
photographer there and she snapped a pictureof me, you know, doing my
best address up for my job interview. And so what happened was a woman
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about my age at the time,she's about twenty four to twenty five,
was running across the tracks that theyhad there at the time. They just
had like a straight path and theyreplaced it with a path that forces you
to look both ways as you walkup to the oh yeah, because it
was becoming an issue. So youjust kind of ran right across. There
was no gate or anything like that. And she had earbuds in her ears,
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a bailt hoodie over her head,and she wasn't paying attention. She
was looking down at her phone,listening to her music, walked right out
in front of the Max and gothit and it took off her leg and
put her in the hospital. Andso obviously she didn't get keep the leg.
It was gone forever, and herfamily was making a whole big thing
about how well, you know,there should be precautions put in place.
It's like, no, you're you'rebeing able to hit you Yeah, And
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then it's funny. It was aweek after that, remember, because I
just read the Facebook memory post theother a couple weeks ago. But not
long after that happened, I watchedthe dude in the exact same spot walk
out right for the train, hadnoise canceling headphones on, and he had
a hoodie on and he was lookingdown at his phone. He stepped out
in the train luckily was able tostop in the middle of the road,
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and people are screaming and dude moveand he just looks up, oh,
and then just keeps going. Andso, I mean, that's always been
a problem people being distracted by newtechnology. That's been issue since the portable
technology became a thing. You know, didn't didn't Two Max trains hit themselves
like run into each other like acouple of weeks ago around thirteenth. I
didn't hear anything about that. Yeah, yeah, but he hit each other.
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Yeah, So that was the seeticketsfrom They actually went to that max
stop and they redid it so thatit's like in order to get across,
you can't just walk straight across.Now I have like kind of walk in
this weird zigzag pattern. I know. That's the reason why it did is
because you kind of walk looking thisway and then you have to turn and
looked at so you see both ways. What they did is they utilize the
traffic control point g watch styles soyou have to actually look where you're going.
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Yeah that was her way. I'msaying, well, it's it's like
it doesn't it won't do anything becauseyou'll just have someone that's just looking down
at their phone walking around between thegates and then walking right out in front
the train. Anyway. So theword is liability. We are trying to
prevent liability. That's the deal,Trusty, that they've done everything they can
to prevent you from being a fuckingidiot and getting yourself run over by a
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train. And let's kind where mymindset comes from. It's like, well,
yeah, it's terrible, but inthat case, she kind of she
fucking deserved it, right, Shewasn't paying attention. She walked out in
front of a train, she gothit. She's lucky she wasn't fucking killed.
Did she have a significant weight loss. She's going to have a titanium
LM, it's gonna be a lotlighter. She could off mid thigh.
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She lost lig mid thigh, andso it's yeah, that's tragic, but
at the same time, you didto yourself. That's that's my kind of
whole mindset. When I'm driving,I take full responsibility for everything I do
with my car. But if Idie in a car accent because someone else
is driving like an idiot, I'llbe one pissed off motherfucker in hell.
Right, So they're trying to blamesociety for the mistakes of a few idiots.
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Has always that's always been something thatbothers me. This was a long
track all the way back to whatthe actual root is. Right. We
always try to take the exception andmake it the rule. Yeah. Yeah,
it's funny because it's like the waythey're handling it's like, well,
we want to find these people thatdid this and bring them the justice.
I'm sitting there going, you're notgoing to do anything you can to stop
people from getting behind the middle ofa car. That it's funny because like
whenever it's gun violence, it's alwayswe must do everything we can and to
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keep guns off the streets and keepthem out of the hands of these lunatics.
But we let lettletics drive cars everyday. Unless that's a burner phone,
right, unless it's a burner phone, the GPS information that's in that
phone, they know exactly where thatphone is at. If they want to
find it, they can find Yeah. I mean if she's doing if she
took video and I was like,yeah, let's do this and they're doing
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their thing. Unless it's a burnerphone and there's no information that would be
tied to her other than the factthat she put it on the internet,
you know, there's they could probablyfind her. So yeah, that's not
going to be that hard. It'sjust a matter of whether or not they
want to put the resources into doingit, and depending if people got killed
versus bumped or whatever. And it'sSeattle, dude, like, we are
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definitely running into it. I mean, I haven't been to Sea. Have
you been to Seattle recently? Avery, Yeah, like six months ago or
so? Okay, so compared tothe lat Well, I've been there since
you and I were there, whata long time ago? Now? So
what's I mean? I mean,other than just blowing through it is has
it gone downhill? Like I thinkall of the towns are. I mean
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Portland, I have better experience withPortland than Seattle. But I got a
chance to drive by Chopper Chaz orwhatever you want to call it. I
just saw the perimeter of it,just kind of eat I didn't go downtown
into it, didn't bring my passport, so I couldn't go into it.
Yeah, going to a different country. So that's still fully and is that
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fully ad or they let that goall right? Yeah? But you could
see the remnants of it, thelittle farm trying to make in the middle
of the park. Yeah. Yeah, like tables with free pizza. They
got really eaten up because all thehomeless people. So I okay, So
I'm curious being the fact that we'rein a unique timeline in terms of like
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you know, our I don't know, we're right in that timeline where we're
going to start seeing a bunch ofdifferent elections happen. Do you think that
we're prepped and there seems prep tostart having the same you know, divulge
in a lot of rioting and protests. Again, I mean, either which
away, do you think that's what'son the horizon. I mean, you're
a little closer to that west becauseof the ground zero stuff. You guys
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talk about that stuff all the time, So I'm just curious what your guys
thoughts are. Yeah, Yeah,I think it's possible, especially with the
fact that the recession isn't getting anybetter. It's going to continue. It
might even collapse into a depression.That's a bunch of bullshit because they said
that we are making way more moneythan we had. It just costs one
hundred percent more to buy everything.Yeah. I was watching Home Alone today
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and there's that scene where he's buyingthe groceries. Doesn't mean go right.
Yeah, it's like nineteen eighty three. He's with the total and he has
a coupon for the oars, juiceand everything, and some people actually was
able, they were actually able tosit down and calculate everything because a lot
of the products he has, hecan still buy today, right, like
the Stoffers and whatnot, And someonesaid that would be about seventy one dollars.
So yeah, it's it's rough.And so with the economy getting worse,
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people are just going to act out. And people acted out in twenty
twenty because they were stuck at home. I was pent up energy, they
were getting fed nothing but bullshit bythe news media. They were pissed off
about everything, and a lot ofpeople were out of jobs, right,
they didn't having money, so theyhad nothing left to lose. So when
you have a bunch of people withnothing to lose, who feel like they
don't own anything yet they're entitled toeverything, they start the knockout game,
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running people over the cars. Imean, that's we're still seeing the tremors
from the earthquake that was twenty twenty. That was a massive shift in our
culture. What happened that year.A lot of people are like, oh,
we're over it. No, we'renot over it yet. Like it's
we're still seeing some rumblings from that. So I would say that it's okay.
I'm not going to disagree. I'mgoing to say that the normal person,
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average person, they are trying tofigure out a way to forget like
some of the choices they made atthat timeline, and just keep on keeping
on. They weren't breaking the law, they weren't doing anything stupid. They're
trying to go to work. AndI think the biggest paradigm shift is that
I think more people work from homenow than they ever have in the past.
I think that was really the biggestparadigm shift for like work. It's
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though, yeah, well yeah,because a lot of people can't handle their
high they've got to be in aworkspace so they'll actually stay on task.
I mean certainly. I mean,yeah, I still work hater today.
I do all my production for GroundZero right here, and there are days
where I struggle to get my workdone because there's there's so many distractions going
on because I'm at home, sowhatever it is, I'll have people,
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you know, knocking on my doortry I sell me stuff, or neighborsinge
help or chores or things like that, and I struggled to everything done,
Whereas if I'd done it in theoffice, like I've gotten everything done in
like an hour and a half,But because it's at home, I get
distracted by everything. Well, thatis an exact opposite of what the majority
people that I know, to includemyself, that have worked from home.
You can say, if I workfrom home, I don't sit around and
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talk about what happened last weekend,or what I'm doing this weekend, or
what my spouse is doing, oroh those kids, or I got to
take a kid to the doctors.I'll be right back. None of that
shit happens when I work remote.Now, does it take a special type
of programming that isn't conventional or isn'trelated to our education system? Yes,
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so yeah, you have to beprogrammed differently. And I mean it's possible
you could do it. Like there'sdays where you don't get stuff done working
at home, but it's made upfor by the fact that you can do
That's that's the idea of working fromhome. You don't have to work every
single day. When you're working home, it's task driven. Do you have
to ask you I'm done? Yeah, then you're done. It's like clock
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yeah. And me personally, Iwork seven days a week because I've got
two different jobs, ones in person, the other one's virtual, and then
it's also in person. But inorder for me to work, I have
to work at home all the time, and it's not like you're like,
well, what am I gonna do? And I you know, you have
to be a self starter in orderto do it. I don't. I
think a lot of people in societyare not self starters. They have to
be tasked. Uh and and thenif they but they're tasking, can't be
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so loose leaf because if they don'thave somebody there there. You know.
That's me to a certain extent.I suffer from the shiny thing syndrime at
times, or the squirrel or it'slike I start jumping on everybody does that.
Yeah, I'm good at I've donemultiple person I tests and all of
them canfirm the same thing. I'mvery good at starting new things, not
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so good at finishing things at times. So I have a lot of Yeah
that's the perseverance, man, That'sthat's the self starter part. Yeah.
Yeah, so that's just my strum. But I've been very good at working
from home because I was homeschool asa kid, right, and so for
me, I'm I'm I can handlethe not socializing. I think a lot
of people can't handle that. That'sa lot of people freaked out with the
twenty twenty things. They're like,I can't. I have to socialize all
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the time. I have to beout constantly with people and words for me,
like I I was accustomed as akid, I'd be stuck at home
in my room all day doing schoolwork. The biggest issue I had, well,
actually, there were so many issuesI had with that timeline. However,
Comma one of the bigger ones thatwere on a personal level. All
the fucking gyms were closed and Igo to a gym and work out because
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I am not I am I don'tknow. I do not possess the equipment
in order to other than body weight. Because I was just doing push ups
and sit ups, push up,sit ups, you know all you know
that kind of thing. When Iwas waiting, I think it was going
to end. So I did abouta year of push ups and sit ups
and then I went back to thegym and I was like, man,
I'm totally out of shape for whatI was doing. And then it took
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almost a year to get back intoshape. And it's weird how you get
older you don't bounce back as quick. Either that or I just don't have
the like the the time commitment involvedin doing it. I know we're way
off topic. So that's the reasonwhy you need a tech. I'm just
saying there's a reason you need itwell because it answers your question about whether
or not things are going to jumpoff, right, But that's part of
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the symptom, right, that's partof if we don't think it's going to
be as bad here. I actuallydon't think it's going to be as bad
where we're at here. I thinkother places are starting. I think we
peaked and everybody saw, ooh,that's not so good, and now we're
gonna let it come down a littlebit. But look at what was going
on with the protests for Palestinian stuff. You know in Israel that's huge.
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New York and LA. They're likethey're trying to ramp it up and get
as big time as possible. TheyI just don't know if they recognize that
if you tilt too far and youbreak over into the actual violent part,
there's so many people there that isgoing if it goes that direction, how
are you going to get that undercontrol? And there's going to be dead
people, a lot of them inorder to get that under control. Look
what happened in ninety two, right, Well that I remember it very clearly.
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I'm sure it remembers it very clearly. But yeah, I mean they
hit they basically people destroyed a whole, you know, basically burrows until they
got to where a lot of themoney was at and all of a sudden
people start getting shot. That's actuallywhat did happen. But it's like,
do we really want to have thatplay out again? And I think it's
one hundred percent dependent on leadership inthose regions, and as it says,
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it doesn't seem like leadership in thoseregions kind of like it is here or
at least where we live, notwhere Avery lives, but where we live.
Is that there is a or therewas a willingness to let it go
on because it was kind of ahands off. They didn't want the liability
or did they want it to happen. It's that becomes a conspiracy. But
I think it's evident that there wasn'ta willingness to stop it because you know
(29:59):
whatever. But that being said,that's why you need a tech. That's
why you need to learn how toprogram your phone so you'll know your family's
at that's the point, so youknow, I wish I had a remix
of like Santa Claus is coming totown with a better watch out, a
better better stay loaded. It's somethingabout angry mobs are coming to town.
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Well, I would say this thatI think that to orient this back to
where we should be talking about actualfunctional skills and everything, I think that
everybody should try to stay learning,try to stay growing in a in this
in an opportunity based era, becausethis is the type of information that could
be suppressed theoretically moving forward if itbecomes problematic for whomever has the controls for
(30:45):
the FCC or whatever you know,or whatever type of Internet suppression. There
seems to be a lot of billscoming up lately that are not favorable,
like having to have a driver's license, you know, theoretically to be on
the internet to prove and show yourhistory and everything. It's like, no,
that's free speech, and you know, I think we need to yeah,
(31:06):
definitely began, you know, learningas many things as possible that you
don't have touch with, especially ifit's cost effective, because you know what,
if that drives up it's like havingit's like having a kindle with a
bunch of books on it. Orhaving actual medical books. It's kind of
a nice to have both because it'seasy to look stuff up, but you
kind of need both build yourself.You're hard copies from walk away materials,
so you'll never forget it exactly.Yeah, yeah, that's going to do
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it. First here, I didn'twant to put out. There's that new
trailer for the movie Civil War comingout. I didn't get to watch it,
but I saw I want to watchthat. Yeah, Temple show it.
Temple is like being kind of skepticalabout it. There was something I
thought was a little bit weird inthat movie that you kind of depict California
and Texas joining up and brings hides, and I thought, wonder how it's
(31:53):
going to work out. But itdoes show a pretty realistic and grim look
at what a second American Civil Warlook like in this century, and it
looks like it's going to be avery entertaining movie. Commerce would still be
happening theoretically, and people would beit would be secret. It would be
like small scale violence all the time. Yeah, that's a scene in the
trailer. They showed people walking intoa clothing store and they're like, we're
(32:14):
shocked that you're still up in Andhonestly, I kind of pondered that,
except that's not so weird because youhave countries where they have full on civil
wars going on or just massive war. People got to eat. Yeah,
people got to eat. They're goingto grocery shopping, and you know that
happens Israel all the time. Someonelike walks around a couple of blocks because
there was a suicide bombing that jumpingoff on their normal route home and they're
(32:37):
like, oh, took me anextra five minutes to get home because somebody
it killed themselves and a bunch ofother people. So I almost equit it
like whatever you see, Like whenyou see like the warning is like police
activity on this block right or whatever, this area is locked down so traffic's
diverted. I could see something likeI mean like, hey, a bomb
went off here, or there isa current shootout happening here of some form.
(33:00):
Yeah, rbal activity is something deemedthis area unsafe, we need to
detour, or realistically nothing at all. That's exactly what I think. Cently,
there was a protest that happened Ithink it was on Friday, and
Clod was like, oh, theywere you affected? By the protest going
on in downtown. I had noidea there was one right and no one
(33:20):
was strolling molotov. So it's kindof a bullshit move. That's a protests.
No, it was in my way, I mean if that someone was
in my way, like those thoseclimate activists that just sit in the middle
of the road and demand that peoplenot use oil while making them sit idle,
which is burning more oil than ifthey just let them drive through.
Yeah. Hey, on a sidenote, I must say that I did
see a person do the climate activitything and they glued their hand to the
(33:40):
track on an F one event.Suffice to say, there was skin left
on the ground and his ass wasrolled out by security immediately. He was
all and then he was in Germany. Yeah, well killed him right up,
and they took the sidewalk out orthe pavement out and took him with
it. And they said that theyhad to go ahead just amputate his hand
because he had done too good ofa job blowing himself to the road.
(34:06):
Some of them sealthy worker got shotlike that old man jumped to have a
car just start shooting people. Youknow what, I think we've gone way
out track. Here. That's Ithink we're Yeah, well we're out of
time anyway. So that's how weare here. With Unsuppress, you guys
get a little bit of information anda lot of bullshit. Well okay,
I have a quoe. Okay,So you know what, if people want
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(34:30):
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You can email us there too.I'll go ahead share with the guys.
I don't really check that email onthe regular, but I get a
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(34:52):
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That's what I appreciate it too.And also, guys, grounds toemerg
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I just kidding. I don't know. I think it takes a couple
of Because they make an order,it says that we're not doing these bulk
things because it's cool looking shirt.So I know, if you're the deal
with that where you bulk order abunch of shirts and you get it in
(35:34):
they're you know, not what youexpected and you're stuck with them and have
to figure out to sell them.That's never fun. So that's why you
do merch, Like with the loanstuff. You get it. You you
purchase it out for your deal,like for the company, and then you
get a box of them and halfof them like there's no way that's ever
going to fit. Somebody might giveit to a toddler. Yeah, so
that's way. So there's someone thatneeds an extra small, they can get
it. Or somebody's like a fiveor six X, they can get it.
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And it's not gonna write. Imean that we have to stock this
because that's what I problem. I'llgo to like a company function they're like
we have T shirts for every one. I'm like, you have my size,
and they go, we did,but we gave it to that one
guy who is skinny and short butlikes to wear his clothes baggy. So
sorry, you're out of luck.But we have a medium. I'm like,
like, perfect, I'll put iton the wall. I need a
three X man, come on,So that's good for year this week.
(36:20):
I always run a goal forever.But appreciate you guys. And this will
be our last show before Christmas.I believe. I don't think we're gonna
record on Christmas weekend. I'm assumingwe're not, but we could make this
a two for right now. Chrisis going to be on a Monday,
so we could record, but Isay we do. I say we do
it, So we do it.If Bill's available and we can do our
(36:43):
top three presence, we could doit on Saturday. We could just do
it a day before or whatever.Last year Bill and I we did Conspira
Effect and we read how the Grenchschool Christmas or we did we did?
We did Christmas Carol, so wecould do it. We could do a
fun dramatic reading if you guys wantto. I think it'd be hilarious.
I can't read, so, butyou're not a marine. We're pretty much
(37:08):
the same, but you don't eatthe crayons. Right, that's the he
makes candles and then he makes candlesout of them. Dude, I want
to point this out before now,now that we're just wasting time, I
say this, Avery's Ranger cookies arefucking delicious. Say well, I should
have the misses and make some soundsgood. Yeah, all right, love
(37:30):
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the others, make sure you stayunsuppressed. But suppress you're driving. We
don't want to get right over
Hey, everybody, welcome to unsuppressed. I am less with Bill and Avery.
Pat couldn't make it today, butsince his best and we had last
big off, we had stuff goingon, so we're back. Holiday season
gets crazy for us. Of course, he has a great topic that we're
going to talk about for you guyshere today, and let's go ahead jump
right into it. Actually, Bill, I think you had to me you
(00:25):
want to talk about first. Actually, yeah, So being innovative is something
that the guy that Avery that that'sone of his things, Like, he's
really innovative and he had a reallygreat idea. And we are people who
like to practice what we preach asfar as developing preparedness and staying learning,
because the key to being good atanything is if you're going to know it
(00:46):
all, then you've stopped learning.And realistically you're the person's on the decline
of your abilities. Avery myself,I'm sure Wes you're in the same boat.
You always want to learn, youalways want to grow. So January
sixth, Well, actually, Avery, this is a great way to you
know what, I'm going to askyou, what do How do you want
to present it to everybody so theycan be involved. Yeah, so basically
(01:07):
I have been part of with acompany that uses a tech which is basically
a Google Maps on steroids that youcan share your locations with. We use
that for a lot of events anddifferent things like that, and I wanted
to get a hands on class ofwhere when I walked away from it,
I had everything I needed to beable to operate the class. And I
(01:30):
was talking to a bunch of otherpeople and they were like, yeah,
that'd be really cool if we coulddo that. So I reached out to
one of my friends who works forthe military and he does basically network development
for the ATTACH. So I askedhim if you'd be offered willing to offer
us a class, and he saywould And that made me start thinking like,
this is probably a need for alot of people out there, different
(01:53):
advanced skill sets where a YouTube videojust doesn't cut it. YouTube videos nowadays
are just bulk food for the masses, Like they really don't have any nutrients
in them. And so you canwatch I watched the video or a guy
was talking about how ATVs are greatuse in the shit hit the fan scenario,
except you need to remember that theyuse fuel. It's like, yeah,
(02:15):
I think we all recognize that,right, So what I was thinking
is there's now a time where weneed a different platform where people can absorb
the very nutrient dense information and comeaway from a class, let's say,
fully understanding what their class material was, along with a product at the end
(02:37):
of it. So we're going tooffer a series of classes now where there'll
be a syllabus basically a packing listif you will, but what you need
to come to the table with andwhen you walk away from it, it'll
be transformed into a fully functioning toolthat you'll be able to use depending on
what the class is. Right,So, for example, the first one
(02:57):
is ATACH you'll come to the meetingor the zoom meaning I think is the
platform we're going to use for thisone, and you will be able to
walk away from it fully understanding howto install and operate inside of ATECH on
your smartphone. So all the moneyis going to go to the instructor on
this one. If anybody's interested.It's January sixth is when the class is
(03:19):
going to happen. Just stay tunedfor our social media posts on when that's
going to be, like the dateand time and all that stuff. Well,
the follow on with that is isthat what's okay? What's vital about
having? Well, like you said, nutrient dance teaching versus YouTube creator's content.
YouTube creators create content based on justcreating content. Try to get as
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many things out there as fast aspossible. Shot got it out there.
Why what does that do for youas the end user? Well, you
get a thirty thousand foot view andthink you know something, but you know
shit, You have no idea whatThere's so many steps in between. You
could say, oh, I justsaw a guy run into a room,
right, just as a colloquialism,because so many people like the high speed
(04:00):
load drag. You know, music'splaying and guys running rooms and shooting targets.
There are so many things going onthere that you have to get down
to the micro level. You haveto get down to the baby Slops level
to truly be able to absorb andthen understand those processes. And that's the
intent of these classes. You're providingindividuals the basis of how to use a
tool. It's it's truly instructional andthat goes from well, the gambit is
(04:25):
from medical to just anything. It'slike whatever's on the stars and the catalog
of individuals that Avery has at hisdisposal is numerous and deep. So we're
going to have a very successful run. As far as instruction, what I'm
jacked up about is I don't haveto teach. I get to learn,
and that is the best thing ever. I'd love to learn. It's great.
(04:47):
So I can't wait for January sixth, not like the one few years
ago, but it's probably the bestand the worst date for that. But
it makes it's a Saturday. Soit's a Saturday exactly? Is that?
First? I think I believe itto be the first Saturday of the new
year, which is the way wepicked. And then coincidentally, Yeah,
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but you know, one of thethings we're going to be doing is offering
at minimum three series of classes,so a one, two hundred, and
three hundred level. So the onehundred for like a tax for example,
is going to be installing and gettingfamiliar with atach this level two hundred series
is going to be incorporating other devicesinto the comms plan, so whether that
(05:30):
be like Beoufang radios or whatever othermesh, whatever, that mesh is probably
the direction we're going to be teaching. And then the three hundred would actually
be like a field problem where yougo out and you actually utilize these devices,
navigate with them, maybe even dosome fox hunting, try and triangulate
people who are using radios and such. So it'll be really cool to see
(05:54):
this progress and growing too. It'slike a life of its own. And
not to mention everybody who is alist who's reading this or watching this or
depending on how you're watching it orlistening to it, in our private network,
you can provide. You can actuallyrequest classes. There's something that you'd
be interested in learning that you'd neverbe able to learn, like you know
the you know, like Wes he'strying to figure out the love of another
(06:15):
woman. You know, just sometimeshow to hit on chicks or something.
That's fine. But I mean likein the we're talking in like the tactical
or user space, whether it's youknow, like Avery's even done homestead style
farming. Like there's a great dealof information that is out there, and
it's we're wanting to create an environmentwhere it's a learning environment and it's also
has depth so you're walk it's awalk, there's gonna be walkway material.
But the question that I know alot of you might have said, is
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why the fuck would I need tohave a tech? Well, that is
a It is a really interesting programand it's something that you could use like
hunting. You can use it,I mean, hiking, you can use
it in a lot of different places. You can use it under a lot
of stress. It's not about theend of time stuff. It could be
used in a community network. Imean there's there are tools, and it
can be integrated into a FEMA program. It could be it can be is
(07:01):
you know, implemented into a communityresponse to an emergency. Yeah, just
use a tack. You can useatach when you take your family to the
fair exactly you can see them,you know, you know where they're at.
Yeah, so you guys at we'reover here. And then you're like,
I don't know where that's at.We're by the elephant stand, which
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the tuo stand or somebody give meall thirty of them? Okay, so
which one? Okay? Now Ican see you on the map. It's
there. And my thought is isthat I have tried to use atach and
a bunch of it's different iterations thatI've seen, like for your download,
but I have always stumbled it's alwayslike a setup issue. I'm like,
man, what is going wrong withthis? So that's one of the reasons
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I'm super excited about it. Isnot it's not just you know, hey,
I'm going to go do this class. It's going to be very cost
effective because the costs are going tobe economical. It's not going to be
one of those you know, classesthat blow your bank account up. It's
about developing skill sets and helping.Communicating and community absolutely is bringing us closer
together because you know, I mean, communications are the backbone of any successful
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campaign and anything you're doing. Sowe should definitely put that on. And
then I think we should do aclass for everyone over on aftermath, because
we do webinars over there with Clydeand I Gable all the time I was
presentation. I mean, we didthat one got you know, kind of
like an open call, you getto know the guys kind of a call
a couple of months ago. Sodo something like that and just have like
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a teaching session sounds great. Ijust can't wait until there's another like,
uh like group party that shows upso we can all get into trouble with
the pool table. That's gonna bea lot of fun. So yeah,
just saying crampus, uh, gettogether we did. That was like that
was two years ago, wasn't it. Well we went to a CD bar
with the pool table and commenced tostart shooting pool and it just started going
(08:52):
downhill. Was terrible. Oh yeah, yeah, you know it is one
of those spots part time. Imean it was the DJ, the DJA
over at the sidebark because he youdidn't know how to run the levels of
a loud speakers and we were oh, yes, right, because he was
killing it. Yeah, that oneran out because it was just they're doing
karaoke. When you have someone thatcan't sing on key singing and the speakers
are too loud, that's what karaokeis. It's just a bunch of people
(09:13):
who can't sing. Yeah, butyou usually have to alcohol, so if
you go to the other side ofthe bar you can kind of get away
from it, or you can tuneit out. He had it so loud
that like his ears were bleeding.Yeah, it was. It was on
factor of eleven. They cranked itup a little bit. Now, you
know what avery thinking about it Agreat way to maybe provide something to the
(09:33):
aftermath network would be maybe a boobooor rout kit something for packing. I
think that's something. I'll say this, guys, I've used his ruck pack
and his booboo kit design for thirteenplus years. I've used this. I've
used that design because it does there'salmost no augmentation, small changes or small
ads, but the basis of everythingis there. Yeah, so off,
(09:56):
they'll set ups that we can have, like a camera pointing out your hands.
Avery, you can just show ushow you get put using your hands,
putting things into the bag, magicfingers. Oh right, all right,
So we did have a discussion forthe time we're gona play Devil's advocate.
They'll why don't you go ahead andset the scene for us here.
Imagine being young, stupid, andwilling to use a car, a vehicle,
(10:22):
a motor vehicle as a weapon,and society blames you strikingly for running
people over and saying things like hitthat bitch as you're running them over.
Imagine that's the society we live in, and that we have a humanity issue.
Take it west, you take thosethings, and you have people to
have a complete disregard for human life. The point of the appath they i'd
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say, and then you put thembehind the wheel of a car and they
want to get TikTok clicks. That'sa weird way to get clicks though.
So here was my issue with thewhole thing. So I see this video
and it says, hey, graphicimagy, So of course you say,
must see you know, you gotto see it. And they're watching these
these people run people over, andI'm like, Okay, this is unique.
(11:11):
This is not something you'd expect becauseI thought it looked like Portland when
I saw it with Seattle, MikeTomato, Tomato. So here's the thing.
I literally know that I am partof the problem with apathy because the
first thing I thought is is that'san assault car. We should definitely ban
cars now because of seeing that.I mean, it was just literally the
(11:33):
first thing I thought, and thatit was I can't believe those people in
marketing to come and take your caraway. We just want to ban the
cars that are being used for thesethese mass runovers. No, I want
to just take them all away.This man all ther That's the only answer,
right, No. But I meanthe point is, the point is
with this is that I went toa place that was non human, like
I took the humanity out of itabout the victims of what was going on,
(11:56):
where I always blame the people whoare doing this thing whatever, whatever
it is, whether it's a massshooting or someone obviously running people over,
although you know that's it, it'sthe same thing. It's just a tool,
right. Well, I don't understandhow people have a disconnect about those
items. Well, actually, Ithink I may have an idea. Why
there's a disconnect is because people theysay, well, I need a car.
(12:18):
I have to get a car toget from point A to point B.
That is something I need. Well, and you don't need a gun,
right, That's because that's usually thethat's usually the argument. So no,
you can always call a cop.The cop will take you to where
you need to go because they're thereto protect and serve. But he can
drive a car too and run.I mean, well, you know,
but anyway, I digress. Breathalyzersinstalled in every single car, so we
(12:39):
can never have drug driving ever again. So my question is, with with
that in mind, with that inmind, is this the beginning of the
next phase of like lunatic behavior?Is this the thing? I mean?
Because and how do you protect yourselffrom that. Does that mean get your
head out of your phone, keepyour ear plugs out, pay attention when
(13:01):
you're walking around. I mean usingsome common sense because I mean, if
that's where we're really looking at,that is actually just man, we are
really on the edge of armageddon ofstupidity. I mean, I just people
have really lost their lost all theirpoints. I mean, yeah, normally
to just you know, let theidiot's idiots and they'll work them, it
all work itself out. But inthis case, you have the idiots running
(13:22):
over people that probably aren't idiots.They're just mind minding their own business,
walking along the side of the roador crossing the street, and they're gonna
run over by these douchebags who forsome reason think that it's fun to hit
people with a car. I don'tparticularly understand that because that would be a
nightmare. But they're like, oh, yeah, I just run this guy
over. Oh I mean, okay, did you see the video? Every
(13:45):
did? Are you aware of thestory? Yeah? It's I mean it's
disturbing just because exactly what you'd expect. Yeah, it's like a Batman movie,
you know, it's yestopian, thesame kind of thing. Yeah,
it looks like something pulled out ofthe front of a movie and it doesn't
feel real. If anyone's ever seensome how many people are it? This
video is one, but apparently it'sbecoming a trend. It's like you hear
the knockout game. Yeah, yes, a knockout game ten years ago.
(14:07):
Ours, Yeah, these are ontwenty thirteen, twenty fourteen. They're just
locking up the people and punch themthe side of the head as far as
I can and knocking them out.And you know, one of the guys
they had pulled in had such alow IQ that he couldn't comprehend what's the
right term if you asked him ahypothetical let's he couldn't understand just common hypothetical
questions. So he said, hey, look, how would you feel someone
(14:30):
punched you in the side of thehead like that and knocked you out?
No one punched me in the sideof the head, but how would you
feel if they did. We talkedabout no one punched me in the side
of the head. And so that'sthe level of stupid that we're dealing with
here. People that either that orthey're just that obtuse that they're going to
be that arrogant that they would notwant to answer the question. Yeah,
I personally feel that most people aresmarter than they put off on certain things.
(14:54):
When you're doing criminal behavior, youwere going to claim that you didn't
know that you were doing anything wrong, because that's the best chance to you
not spending any extra time behind bars, you know. So, I don't
know. I don't foresee if thisbecomes a trend that is really not going
to be good. But people getrun over all the time. This is
his first time. I've sent iton TikTok where it was like they were
(15:16):
like happy about it. That wasthat was kind of a new thing.
So if it becomes a targeted thing, I think the best way for us,
maybe on this program, to orientit is what are some measures that
you could take to prevent you fromgetting ran over? So I mean things
like not well, don't don't stayon your phone, stay looking around.
I mean I talked a class.Yeah, yeah, stay out of the
(15:39):
Yeah, stay out of Fishman's werenot that's out of SF, but yeah,
stay out of the fish area.I would say we're high visibility vest,
but that's for preventing accent over andovers. If it's intentions were's some
dude clothing so you can get betweenthe cars quickly. No. No,
My thought is is that I taughta class about situational awareness for people in
(16:00):
urban areas, saying, hey,you know where you're going to walk out
of a building, you're going touse You're you're gonna always, you know,
look to the side that's going tobe open. You're gonna always do
your your your distance checks, andyou're going to look for threats and blah
blah blah. You know what doto have this whole casket of effects.
I think it's the same idea.You don't stare at your phone the whole
time and you stay in your ownlittle world. I think that's a great
way to improve your situational awareness.I think that's one of the biggest things
(16:25):
I think everybody's guilty of, aswell as because of air pods and things
like that that are the ultimate trendin you know, being able to listen
to stuff and you know, stayin your own little world on podcasts or
you know, listen to music whateverit is, or being on the phone.
Maybe you have one out so youhave a little more hearing, you
know, instead of both lugged in. You know, you just reminded me
of the story I have. Itwas around Thanksgiving of twenty fifteen. I
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was heading to a job interview toget the worst job of my entire life,
but I needed the job for themoney, and right over to the
Max station and all the trains werefrozen and they were bringing in buses to
replace them as up and they saida girl hadn't been run over. And
actually my picture showed up in theOregonians story for that because they had a
photographer there and she snapped a pictureof me, you know, doing my
best address up for my job interview. And so what happened was a woman
(17:11):
about my age at the time,she's about twenty four to twenty five,
was running across the tracks that theyhad there at the time. They just
had like a straight path and theyreplaced it with a path that forces you
to look both ways as you walkup to the oh yeah, because it
was becoming an issue. So youjust kind of ran right across. There
was no gate or anything like that. And she had earbuds in her ears,
(17:36):
a bailt hoodie over her head,and she wasn't paying attention. She
was looking down at her phone,listening to her music, walked right out
in front of the Max and gothit and it took off her leg and
put her in the hospital. Andso obviously she didn't get keep the leg.
It was gone forever, and herfamily was making a whole big thing
about how well, you know,there should be precautions put in place.
It's like, no, you're you'rebeing able to hit you Yeah, And
(17:57):
then it's funny. It was aweek after that, remember, because I
just read the Facebook memory post theother a couple weeks ago. But not
long after that happened, I watchedthe dude in the exact same spot walk
out right for the train, hadnoise canceling headphones on, and he had
a hoodie on and he was lookingdown at his phone. He stepped out
in the train luckily was able tostop in the middle of the road,
(18:17):
and people are screaming and dude moveand he just looks up, oh,
and then just keeps going. Andso, I mean, that's always been
a problem people being distracted by newtechnology. That's been issue since the portable
technology became a thing. You know, didn't didn't Two Max trains hit themselves
like run into each other like acouple of weeks ago around thirteenth. I
didn't hear anything about that. Yeah, yeah, but he hit each other.
(18:38):
Yeah, So that was the seeticketsfrom They actually went to that max
stop and they redid it so thatit's like in order to get across,
you can't just walk straight across.Now I have like kind of walk in
this weird zigzag pattern. I know. That's the reason why it did is
because you kind of walk looking thisway and then you have to turn and
looked at so you see both ways. What they did is they utilize the
traffic control point g watch styles soyou have to actually look where you're going.
(19:00):
Yeah that was her way. I'msaying, well, it's it's like
it doesn't it won't do anything becauseyou'll just have someone that's just looking down
at their phone walking around between thegates and then walking right out in front
the train. Anyway. So theword is liability. We are trying to
prevent liability. That's the deal,Trusty, that they've done everything they can
to prevent you from being a fuckingidiot and getting yourself run over by a
(19:23):
train. And let's kind where mymindset comes from. It's like, well,
yeah, it's terrible, but inthat case, she kind of she
fucking deserved it, right, Shewasn't paying attention. She walked out in
front of a train, she gothit. She's lucky she wasn't fucking killed.
Did she have a significant weight loss. She's going to have a titanium
LM, it's gonna be a lotlighter. She could off mid thigh.
(19:45):
She lost lig mid thigh, andso it's yeah, that's tragic, but
at the same time, you didto yourself. That's that's my kind of
whole mindset. When I'm driving,I take full responsibility for everything I do
with my car. But if Idie in a car accent because someone else
is driving like an idiot, I'llbe one pissed off motherfucker in hell.
Right, So they're trying to blamesociety for the mistakes of a few idiots.
(20:11):
Has always that's always been something thatbothers me. This was a long
track all the way back to whatthe actual root is. Right. We
always try to take the exception andmake it the rule. Yeah. Yeah,
it's funny because it's like the waythey're handling it's like, well,
we want to find these people thatdid this and bring them the justice.
I'm sitting there going, you're notgoing to do anything you can to stop
people from getting behind the middle ofa car. That it's funny because like
whenever it's gun violence, it's alwayswe must do everything we can and to
(20:34):
keep guns off the streets and keepthem out of the hands of these lunatics.
But we let lettletics drive cars everyday. Unless that's a burner phone,
right, unless it's a burner phone, the GPS information that's in that
phone, they know exactly where thatphone is at. If they want to
find it, they can find Yeah. I mean if she's doing if she
took video and I was like,yeah, let's do this and they're doing
(20:56):
their thing. Unless it's a burnerphone and there's no information that would be
tied to her other than the factthat she put it on the internet,
you know, there's they could probablyfind her. So yeah, that's not
going to be that hard. It'sjust a matter of whether or not they
want to put the resources into doingit, and depending if people got killed
versus bumped or whatever. And it'sSeattle, dude, like, we are
(21:18):
definitely running into it. I mean, I haven't been to Sea. Have
you been to Seattle recently? Avery, Yeah, like six months ago or
so? Okay, so compared tothe lat Well, I've been there since
you and I were there, whata long time ago? Now? So
what's I mean? I mean,other than just blowing through it is has
it gone downhill? Like I thinkall of the towns are. I mean
(21:41):
Portland, I have better experience withPortland than Seattle. But I got a
chance to drive by Chopper Chaz orwhatever you want to call it. I
just saw the perimeter of it,just kind of eat I didn't go downtown
into it, didn't bring my passport, so I couldn't go into it.
Yeah, going to a different country. So that's still fully and is that
(22:03):
fully ad or they let that goall right? Yeah? But you could
see the remnants of it, thelittle farm trying to make in the middle
of the park. Yeah. Yeah, like tables with free pizza. They
got really eaten up because all thehomeless people. So I okay, So
I'm curious being the fact that we'rein a unique timeline in terms of like
(22:27):
you know, our I don't know, we're right in that timeline where we're
going to start seeing a bunch ofdifferent elections happen. Do you think that
we're prepped and there seems prep tostart having the same you know, divulge
in a lot of rioting and protests. Again, I mean, either which
away, do you think that's what'son the horizon. I mean, you're
a little closer to that west becauseof the ground zero stuff. You guys
(22:48):
talk about that stuff all the time, So I'm just curious what your guys
thoughts are. Yeah, Yeah,I think it's possible, especially with the
fact that the recession isn't getting anybetter. It's going to continue. It
might even collapse into a depression.That's a bunch of bullshit because they said
that we are making way more moneythan we had. It just costs one
hundred percent more to buy everything.Yeah. I was watching Home Alone today
(23:11):
and there's that scene where he's buyingthe groceries. Doesn't mean go right.
Yeah, it's like nineteen eighty three. He's with the total and he has
a coupon for the oars, juiceand everything, and some people actually was
able, they were actually able tosit down and calculate everything because a lot
of the products he has, hecan still buy today, right, like
the Stoffers and whatnot, And someonesaid that would be about seventy one dollars.
So yeah, it's it's rough.And so with the economy getting worse,
(23:34):
people are just going to act out. And people acted out in twenty
twenty because they were stuck at home. I was pent up energy, they
were getting fed nothing but bullshit bythe news media. They were pissed off
about everything, and a lot ofpeople were out of jobs, right,
they didn't having money, so theyhad nothing left to lose. So when
you have a bunch of people withnothing to lose, who feel like they
don't own anything yet they're entitled toeverything, they start the knockout game,
(23:57):
running people over the cars. Imean, that's we're still seeing the tremors
from the earthquake that was twenty twenty. That was a massive shift in our
culture. What happened that year.A lot of people are like, oh,
we're over it. No, we'renot over it yet. Like it's
we're still seeing some rumblings from that. So I would say that it's okay.
I'm not going to disagree. I'mgoing to say that the normal person,
(24:21):
average person, they are trying tofigure out a way to forget like
some of the choices they made atthat timeline, and just keep on keeping
on. They weren't breaking the law, they weren't doing anything stupid. They're
trying to go to work. AndI think the biggest paradigm shift is that
I think more people work from homenow than they ever have in the past.
I think that was really the biggestparadigm shift for like work. It's
(24:42):
though, yeah, well yeah,because a lot of people can't handle their
high they've got to be in aworkspace so they'll actually stay on task.
I mean certainly. I mean,yeah, I still work hater today.
I do all my production for GroundZero right here, and there are days
where I struggle to get my workdone because there's there's so many distractions going
on because I'm at home, sowhatever it is, I'll have people,
(25:04):
you know, knocking on my doortry I sell me stuff, or neighborsinge
help or chores or things like that, and I struggled to everything done,
Whereas if I'd done it in theoffice, like I've gotten everything done in
like an hour and a half,But because it's at home, I get
distracted by everything. Well, thatis an exact opposite of what the majority
people that I know, to includemyself, that have worked from home.
You can say, if I workfrom home, I don't sit around and
(25:26):
talk about what happened last weekend,or what I'm doing this weekend, or
what my spouse is doing, oroh those kids, or I got to
take a kid to the doctors.I'll be right back. None of that
shit happens when I work remote.Now, does it take a special type
of programming that isn't conventional or isn'trelated to our education system? Yes,
(25:48):
so yeah, you have to beprogrammed differently. And I mean it's possible
you could do it. Like there'sdays where you don't get stuff done working
at home, but it's made upfor by the fact that you can do
That's that's the idea of working fromhome. You don't have to work every
single day. When you're working home, it's task driven. Do you have
to ask you I'm done? Yeah, then you're done. It's like clock
(26:11):
yeah. And me personally, Iwork seven days a week because I've got
two different jobs, ones in person, the other one's virtual, and then
it's also in person. But inorder for me to work, I have
to work at home all the time, and it's not like you're like,
well, what am I gonna do? And I you know, you have
to be a self starter in orderto do it. I don't. I
think a lot of people in societyare not self starters. They have to
be tasked. Uh and and thenif they but they're tasking, can't be
(26:34):
so loose leaf because if they don'thave somebody there there. You know.
That's me to a certain extent.I suffer from the shiny thing syndrime at
times, or the squirrel or it'slike I start jumping on everybody does that.
Yeah, I'm good at I've donemultiple person I tests and all of
them canfirm the same thing. I'mvery good at starting new things, not
(26:55):
so good at finishing things at times. So I have a lot of Yeah
that's the perseverance, man, That'sthat's the self starter part. Yeah.
Yeah, so that's just my strum. But I've been very good at working
from home because I was homeschool asa kid, right, and so for
me, I'm I'm I can handlethe not socializing. I think a lot
of people can't handle that. That'sa lot of people freaked out with the
twenty twenty things. They're like,I can't. I have to socialize all
(27:17):
the time. I have to beout constantly with people and words for me,
like I I was accustomed as akid, I'd be stuck at home
in my room all day doing schoolwork. The biggest issue I had, well,
actually, there were so many issuesI had with that timeline. However,
Comma one of the bigger ones thatwere on a personal level. All
the fucking gyms were closed and Igo to a gym and work out because
(27:40):
I am not I am I don'tknow. I do not possess the equipment
in order to other than body weight. Because I was just doing push ups
and sit ups, push up,sit ups, you know all you know
that kind of thing. When Iwas waiting, I think it was going
to end. So I did abouta year of push ups and sit ups
and then I went back to thegym and I was like, man,
I'm totally out of shape for whatI was doing. And then it took
(28:02):
almost a year to get back intoshape. And it's weird how you get
older you don't bounce back as quick. Either that or I just don't have
the like the the time commitment involvedin doing it. I know we're way
off topic. So that's the reasonwhy you need a tech. I'm just
saying there's a reason you need itwell because it answers your question about whether
or not things are going to jumpoff, right, But that's part of
(28:23):
the symptom, right, that's partof if we don't think it's going to
be as bad here. I actuallydon't think it's going to be as bad
where we're at here. I thinkother places are starting. I think we
peaked and everybody saw, ooh,that's not so good, and now we're
gonna let it come down a littlebit. But look at what was going
on with the protests for Palestinian stuff. You know in Israel that's huge.
(28:47):
New York and LA. They're likethey're trying to ramp it up and get
as big time as possible. TheyI just don't know if they recognize that
if you tilt too far and youbreak over into the actual violent part,
there's so many people there that isgoing if it goes that direction, how
are you going to get that undercontrol? And there's going to be dead
people, a lot of them inorder to get that under control. Look
what happened in ninety two, right, Well that I remember it very clearly.
(29:10):
I'm sure it remembers it very clearly. But yeah, I mean they
hit they basically people destroyed a whole, you know, basically burrows until they
got to where a lot of themoney was at and all of a sudden
people start getting shot. That's actuallywhat did happen. But it's like,
do we really want to have thatplay out again? And I think it's
one hundred percent dependent on leadership inthose regions, and as it says,
(29:36):
it doesn't seem like leadership in thoseregions kind of like it is here or
at least where we live, notwhere Avery lives, but where we live.
Is that there is a or therewas a willingness to let it go
on because it was kind of ahands off. They didn't want the liability
or did they want it to happen. It's that becomes a conspiracy. But
I think it's evident that there wasn'ta willingness to stop it because you know
(29:59):
whatever. But that being said,that's why you need a tech. That's
why you need to learn how toprogram your phone so you'll know your family's
at that's the point, so youknow, I wish I had a remix
of like Santa Claus is coming totown with a better watch out, a
better better stay loaded. It's somethingabout angry mobs are coming to town.
(30:21):
Well, I would say this thatI think that to orient this back to
where we should be talking about actualfunctional skills and everything, I think that
everybody should try to stay learning,try to stay growing in a in this
in an opportunity based era, becausethis is the type of information that could
be suppressed theoretically moving forward if itbecomes problematic for whomever has the controls for
(30:45):
the FCC or whatever you know,or whatever type of Internet suppression. There
seems to be a lot of billscoming up lately that are not favorable,
like having to have a driver's license, you know, theoretically to be on
the internet to prove and show yourhistory and everything. It's like, no,
that's free speech, and you know, I think we need to yeah,
(31:06):
definitely began, you know, learningas many things as possible that you
don't have touch with, especially ifit's cost effective, because you know what,
if that drives up it's like havingit's like having a kindle with a
bunch of books on it. Orhaving actual medical books. It's kind of
a nice to have both because it'seasy to look stuff up, but you
kind of need both build yourself.You're hard copies from walk away materials,
so you'll never forget it exactly.Yeah, yeah, that's going to do
(31:32):
it. First here, I didn'twant to put out. There's that new
trailer for the movie Civil War comingout. I didn't get to watch it,
but I saw I want to watchthat. Yeah, Temple show it.
Temple is like being kind of skepticalabout it. There was something I
thought was a little bit weird inthat movie that you kind of depict California
and Texas joining up and brings hides, and I thought, wonder how it's
(31:53):
going to work out. But itdoes show a pretty realistic and grim look
at what a second American Civil Warlook like in this century, and it
looks like it's going to be avery entertaining movie. Commerce would still be
happening theoretically, and people would beit would be secret. It would be
like small scale violence all the time. Yeah, that's a scene in the
trailer. They showed people walking intoa clothing store and they're like, we're
(32:14):
shocked that you're still up in Andhonestly, I kind of pondered that,
except that's not so weird because youhave countries where they have full on civil
wars going on or just massive war. People got to eat. Yeah,
people got to eat. They're goingto grocery shopping, and you know that
happens Israel all the time. Someonelike walks around a couple of blocks because
there was a suicide bombing that jumpingoff on their normal route home and they're
(32:37):
like, oh, took me anextra five minutes to get home because somebody
it killed themselves and a bunch ofother people. So I almost equit it
like whatever you see, Like whenyou see like the warning is like police
activity on this block right or whatever, this area is locked down so traffic's
diverted. I could see something likeI mean like, hey, a bomb
went off here, or there isa current shootout happening here of some form.
(33:00):
Yeah, rbal activity is something deemedthis area unsafe, we need to
detour, or realistically nothing at all. That's exactly what I think. Cently,
there was a protest that happened Ithink it was on Friday, and
Clod was like, oh, theywere you affected? By the protest going
on in downtown. I had noidea there was one right and no one
(33:20):
was strolling molotov. So it's kindof a bullshit move. That's a protests.
No, it was in my way, I mean if that someone was
in my way, like those thoseclimate activists that just sit in the middle
of the road and demand that peoplenot use oil while making them sit idle,
which is burning more oil than ifthey just let them drive through.
Yeah. Hey, on a sidenote, I must say that I did
see a person do the climate activitything and they glued their hand to the
(33:40):
track on an F one event.Suffice to say, there was skin left
on the ground and his ass wasrolled out by security immediately. He was
all and then he was in Germany. Yeah, well killed him right up,
and they took the sidewalk out orthe pavement out and took him with
it. And they said that theyhad to go ahead just amputate his hand
because he had done too good ofa job blowing himself to the road.
(34:06):
Some of them sealthy worker got shotlike that old man jumped to have a
car just start shooting people. Youknow what, I think we've gone way
out track. Here. That's Ithink we're Yeah, well we're out of
time anyway. So that's how weare here. With Unsuppress, you guys
get a little bit of information anda lot of bullshit. Well okay,
I have a quoe. Okay,So you know what, if people want
to support us, or if theywant to find out more about the classes
(34:30):
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Any might you like holiday season?Buy us a coffee? What do
you want to do? Just saysome small amount a token of your appreciation.
You can email us there too.I'll go ahead share with the guys.
I don't really check that email onthe regular, but I get a
notification for it. Yeah, Icheck it and I do my best to
(34:52):
respond. There's a question, I'lldo my best to answer it. No,
many people don't ask questions. Ijust go, hey, great show.
That's what I appreciate it too.And also, guys, grounds toemerg
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You'll find our t shirts for saletwenty bucks an Unsuppressed T shirt you're made
(35:13):
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I just kidding. I don't know. I think it takes a couple
of Because they make an order,it says that we're not doing these bulk
things because it's cool looking shirt.So I know, if you're the deal
with that where you bulk order abunch of shirts and you get it in
(35:34):
they're you know, not what youexpected and you're stuck with them and have
to figure out to sell them.That's never fun. So that's why you
do merch, Like with the loanstuff. You get it. You you
purchase it out for your deal,like for the company, and then you
get a box of them and halfof them like there's no way that's ever
going to fit. Somebody might giveit to a toddler. Yeah, so
that's way. So there's someone thatneeds an extra small, they can get
it. Or somebody's like a fiveor six X, they can get it.
(35:58):
And it's not gonna write. Imean that we have to stock this
because that's what I problem. I'llgo to like a company function they're like
we have T shirts for every one. I'm like, you have my size,
and they go, we did,but we gave it to that one
guy who is skinny and short butlikes to wear his clothes baggy. So
sorry, you're out of luck.But we have a medium. I'm like,
like, perfect, I'll put iton the wall. I need a
three X man, come on,So that's good for year this week.
(36:20):
I always run a goal forever.But appreciate you guys. And this will
be our last show before Christmas.I believe. I don't think we're gonna
record on Christmas weekend. I'm assumingwe're not, but we could make this
a two for right now. Chrisis going to be on a Monday,
so we could record, but Isay we do. I say we do
it, So we do it.If Bill's available and we can do our
(36:43):
top three presence, we could doit on Saturday. We could just do
it a day before or whatever.Last year Bill and I we did Conspira
Effect and we read how the Grenchschool Christmas or we did we did?
We did Christmas Carol, so wecould do it. We could do a
fun dramatic reading if you guys wantto. I think it'd be hilarious.
I can't read, so, butyou're not a marine. We're pretty much
(37:08):
the same, but you don't eatthe crayons. Right, that's the he
makes candles and then he makes candlesout of them. Dude, I want
to point this out before now,now that we're just wasting time, I
say this, Avery's Ranger cookies arefucking delicious. Say well, I should
have the misses and make some soundsgood. Yeah, all right, love
(37:30):
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