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Hey, welcome back to Unsuppressed.I am less with boys as usual.
Got some some uh think things thatwe're gonna talk about. Big changes aren't
gonna come over the next month orso, all positive changes, and I
think it's going to lead to somegreat things for Unsuppressed and for all of
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our fans. Oh the definitely someinteresting stories are going to come up,
that's for sure. Yeah. Andso with with big changes came rumors and
things like that. So we're notgoing anywhere, but things are gonna change,
and we're excited for change. Sohold on, that's a relative statement.
Going somewhere and going anywhere are twodifferent things. Okay, life's life
is always going. We will beon the internet, my daughter. We're
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not going to leave the internet.The show is not going to go any
going to go away, going toquit. No, we're not quitters.
So now, but this is interestingfor Avery. No, Avery's not a
quitter. He's he's a I'm eventuallyjust gonna get tired of you guys.
Is TRT recently and his girlfriend waspissed off about it. Well, yeah,
well you know that's true. Onthe phone we were off air and
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she's on the phone with us.She's jumping on and go on like tell
them to get back on the TRTso I can get back on that d
And we're like she was like,well hold on, she was like looking
for like the s D the supersuper dong. So then we are doing
sit up and then like some he'sgot like three hot girls just like like
hanging off of him while he's onthe couch getting his computer set up,
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and we're like, how does thisguy need TRT? It's first world problems,
Wes, all right, that's whatit comes down to, First world
problems, all right, picking onAvery. So it's not even picking on
Avery. It's basically saying state ofthe Union. Avery has three high girls
in his house. Dam done.He doesn't even care. He's just like
this. It is what it is, you know. Is now the difference
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is is Avery's the guys like,but I could have six, that's all
I got to do now, justsix, and I will do twelve.
I just have more and more.Yeah, rookie numbers, Yeah right,
I mean I mean you know,I mean yeah, so those with that
in mind did get those numbers out. Why don't you tell us what you're
getting ready to do? West becausethere's been a lot of background discussions.
Obviously, I've been involved in alot of stuff on the on the free
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side of it. So what areyou going to be doing? Yeah,
So, with media not being aslucrative as everyone thinks it is, I'm
looking to expand my knowledge and mycareer buying something new. So a friend
of ours mete friend of Bill PatrickAvery and I a former roommate of mine
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as a security company, and he'skind of pointed me in the direction of
getting qualified to be well, startingout as an unarmed security officer and eventually
becoming an armed security officer, sobe private security, not police or anything
like that. And so I havesigned up for my unarmed DPSST qualification class.
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It's gonna take a place in May. So I had a pan of
pocket for that to get that started. But that will eventually lead to some
bigger and better things for me inmy future. So if you're really looking
for him, he's really looking forwardto that red shirt with the khaki pants.
He's going to be right there bythe shopping carts. It targets I'm
just playing no like a black polo, tucked down with my gut like hanging
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over my belt. I stooped bothmy thumbs in and a lock around and
like so fifteen eleven is the mostsuperior hanggun background. Balls with balls don't
eat it look completely flood like.There's nothing wrong. Look, there's nothing
wrong with a nineteen eleven or atwenty eleven or any of those things.
The difference is is that if you'rebuying those tools, either you're doing comp
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shooting or you just like pain andsuffering. If you're carrying it, that's
that's all there is to It's heavy. Now. Question I have is have
you ever done anything like this?Have you ever gone through any of those
type of those those little training programs, because it's not a school, it's
it's a training program. It's it'sseveral hours. Nothing like this. No,
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I mean, I'm done professional trainingclasses for jobs. I tried to
become an insurance producer back in twentyfifteen. That didn't work out. Tried
to do a couple of things.I did get a job that was very
highly watched as far as your background. I worked as a treatment aid for
a drug rehob house and I hadto do a Form four for that one.
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I had to do all ten fingerprintsback on the day, I had
to go to a notary and Ihad to do all ten on paper and
a very thorough background check on thatone, and then I'd do CPR and
first aid qualifications to be able todo that. So who el's done their
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armed DPSST here? Who's done itbefore? You? I know? Pat?
Okay? So armed? Okay?He did? Unarmed? What well
did they? What were you doing? What capacity did you have to do
it for? I had ambitions ofdoing stuff, but got a job at
Tactle Taylor instead. Oh so youdid first, you got the first phase
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done, and then you're like,I don't I go and do the other
thing. Yeah, gotcha. SoI will say this that DPSST, the
quall itself, the shoot call isjoke. It's it's joke. I looked
it up super I found the Oregonwebsite and they showed it. I thought
the maximum range is like ten yards. Yeah, you do it all in
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a twenty five yard range and youhave to do some really basic stuff and
you have to hit the actual target. You don't there's no a zone B
zone seat that as a reason.I just score three between three and five
and then on I was ringing upon the rifle. For air fifteen,
you have to hit twenty six outof thirty shots. Yeah, but you're
not going to be you won't beregistering with the rifle. It will only
be pistol that job. Nope,that's a follow on. But I also
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know that you're going to be doingbaton and then you'll do cuffing and then
you'd say taser. He said.The three that he wants me to get
down are baton, OC and handcuffand then I guess taser would would come
after. There should be one.They should have class know, I want
to be there. Why so youcan laugh you're a horrible person, because
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I think I get one of therules of the with some instructors. You
have to get exposed to the OCspray and then you also have to get
taste, so you know how itfeels. Yeah, don't wear contacts that
day. I'm good. I'll justbe I'll be off the side, just
you know, I shall not fear. So I have the question, Avery,
since you've eaten gas before and didthe thing in the military, is
that oc OC was the one thingI failed the military. It was successful
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on everything other than oc spray,so it just ate you up. You
couldn't get through the battle battle throughthe ban or zoom. No, I
just ran out of time. Youhave a time like obstacle course and they
spray you and then you have togo run the obstacle course. And for
some reason I missed the time.I mean it did not feel like five
minutes, but it was five minutesapparently. I would like to point out,
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this is the first time I've heardof any shit like this, avery
failing anything. Yeah, ever,this is like, that's a rare situation.
One. Yeah, yeah, itwas. It was so I became
a less lethal instructor instructor, soI get to teach in the military.
I was allowed to teach the instructors, so like the platoon instructors, on
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how to do all the less lethalmunitions. So I went to the school
in uh Fort Lee I think itwas, and and did that. But
yeah, I had a retest andthat was pretty embarrassing. What place is
that? What is actual name?Virginia's actually Fort Lee? Okay, because
I heard that a bunch of willlike brag changed his name and oh probably
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yeah, yeah, the bunch ofthem changed their name. So I wasn't
sure if that was the new Idon't subscribe to that wilk ideology. I
love the fact that I love that. It's like, where do you go?
I'm at Benning. Yeah it's adifferent name. No, it's not
still Binning. I intentionally called FortFort Lewis still and everybody's like, uh,
you mean joint Joint Base Lewis McCord. I No, I mean Fort
Lewis. I mean Lewis. I'mnot talking about the airbase. I'm talking
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about for Lewis. What do yougo? I'm turning right, I'm going
through that way. So, uhnow, my question is is that after
the discussion with the leadership of thatcompany, the idea is is that you
go through, get all your licenses, get all your kit, which is
pretty much standard fair, and thenyou here're going to get a shot at
potentially you know, doing this andit does make decent money. Already know
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what that all looks like, andI know what the scheduling is, which
will be really functional for you.So it keeps this going and well it
keeps your normal day job going toso it's not really a problem. But
my question is are you looking forwardto it? Yeah? Actually you want
to put hands on somebody. SoI'm Mike. We're going to say his
name is Mike. Mike beat thehell out of somebody the other night.
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So with they there come back looksfor been beating people up. No,
well, okay, what are youtalking about. That's part of the experience.
So, dude, where you're goingto work is not a nice You're
going to defend yourself. Enjoy thataspect of the job. But if I
have to do it, I'll doit. You don't enjoy it, man,
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fun I can tell like the waythis block looks like Wes is in
the one corner and every I'm inthe up top corner and there's Avery and
Pat at the bottom. I'm lookingat Avery's face, going, yes,
jacket somebody up would be part ofthe reason I'd want to do the job.
It's exactly the reason. Well okay, so perfect example. And I
know if Mike is listening, hewill be because I know he does.
He told me that they have Iknow that's the reason I'm using. Yeah
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that box, so the little thing, yeah yeah, So they've had a
theft ring that they've been dealing withundercover, and I mean, I'm not
going to talk about the businesses oranything like that. But these people have
been conducting extensive theft and they actuallycaught one of them, and the dude
wanted to fight and he lost,so yep, yeah, and he said,
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look, it was only going togo downhill. It could have only
went worse for him. So luckilyit was just fisty cuffs and wrestling to
the ground and sorting him out.He used a little bit of a street
jiu jitsu street jutsu, and heand the guy said he went to jail,
but he said they're still they're stillworking stuff out, which is good.
And but he I get to talkto most, you know most three
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or four times a week. Wetalk same thing like you and I do,
Pat and he's telling me kind ofwhat's going on, and you know,
he goes to calls and deals withit. And yeah, you're going
to be very busy and that's goingto be in a very interesting job.
And the fortunate thing is now goingto go to Actually the point of this,
so I led you in to sayingyou're gonna get your gpss T.
I don't give a shit, Noone cares you're gonna get it. You're
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gonna pass it. It'll be fine. You're gonna do great. Now,
my question is is because we're goingto be helping teach Mike's people, Okay,
that's gonna be a thing, andyou're gonna be one of his people.
My question to Avery is is ifyou were going to work problems try
to right? Well, unfortunately,I know how many jobs you have,
So that's that. Thank you're loving. I just got another one, by
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the way, So my question is, don't feed the marines? Yeah,
well crayons, so you know,the according to Jeremy is like nom nom.
So anyway, Uh, that's awhole different guy. He's the reason
why we have that exactly lots.Yeah, but yeah, but with that
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mind, Mike's company, Uh,if you were going to teach people who
had just passed or nominally could passthe DPSST, would you start with glasshouse
and all that stuff teaching you I'mactually how to pie and pick up.
Like I mentioned, I haven't donethe armed so I don't really know to
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what level. My assumption is isthat they are not at a very good
level right now. It's pretty basicand whatnot. But I have people trying
to distract me, right now arethey naked caps drawing from the whole the
loaded weapon might be a concern.Avery, if your penis is in danger,
just nod. I don't think itis. We're going to YouTube get
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sucked off, right fucking now.It's I had a girlfriend here to get
me a blow drive one of ourepisodes once back when Bild. Now we're
doing conspira fact. I had girlfriendover and she was like, she texted
me during the episode, she justpull your pants down. Yeah, surves
back tip jar at whatever dot com. You need to pay us to stop
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doing this bullshit. So what I'mdoing is I'm looking at the picture behind
Avery's head and I'm occasionally seeing peoplemove around and I can't. Yeah,
I mean, we all know theirold bitches, so that's good. I
was gonna slip the camera around,but she put her shirt back down,
so ah, cheater. Which onewas it she flashed or is he just
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changing? No? I don't thinkwe do that on this show, so
I won't. I can blur thisshow. Well, this show is completely
reasonable. Now he can blur anythingout. I had to cover that one
time Avery showed us some you know, things appropriate. I would never I
would never do that. That wasa very fun episode to edit. Well,
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if we're on YouTube, that meanswe go to porn hub. Oh
yeah, we can't, that's thething. Yeah, we wouldn't get a
whole lot of likes because we're showingit. But like we could post on
porn hub because it is a socialmedia site. Hell yeah, Minecraft on
porn Hub. It's hilarious. Yeah. Different times we're like, I my,
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you know my wank sessions. I'vestumbled across stuff that's not even porn
on porn Hub. I'm the fuckis this? I can't jerk off to
this? What all this sucks?I can't jack off to this? All
right, I have a business opportunity, but I don't want to tell you
guys on on air, So remindme when we're off. Okay, so
steal I have a question there.You don't want to get jacked off?
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Okay, So you have a greencredit card cover. It looks like an
American Express. Yeah, let's seeAmerican Defender. Oh that's hot, American
Defense. That's cool. I gota little Jordan Peterson right there. Okay,
okay, I know what that mywinter I got my winter stuff right
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there? Still laptop seeing some milesnice, just put big strips of lcrow
on there. And then so youjust stick all your Mara hold on.
Director of Riftop Operations is hot.That's hot. Yeah, that's awesome.
That's a good one. Yeah.So I'll say that what we're gonna do
is we're gonna end up doing astandards drill. So we're gonna we're gonna
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have one hundred and fifty rounds orso. It's going to be developing standards
and see if to make sure thesepeople can actually safely operate a firearm,
you know that thing. Oh yeah, we're talking about them there. Yeah,
we'll go there, so we cantalk about that stuff too. I'd
much rather talk about something more racy, but I'm more about that life.
But yeah, next time. Yeah, so we're going to do that.
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And then my question is do youthink that uh, busting out glasshouse and
start having them. Well, so, in dealing with the fundamentals, you
have to make sure that they havethe basics of fire manipulation and safety under
control. And then one would assumethat although you never like stop being concerned
about the safety aspect of it,you move on past it. Right,
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So we assume that they have somelevel of proficiency with fire safety and manipulation,
and then if they don't, thenyou have to you know, step
back. But then from yeah,but then from there you start implementing the
tactics and techniques in order to dothe room clearing that has been adopted by
the organization that you're working for,because you know, each organization will have
different TTPs, tactics, techniques,some procedures, and then you start teaching
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them. Now, how you teachyou usually do a crawl walk run.
That's kind of been the Army's thingforever. And you start off with crawl,
which would be a glass house orsomething to the extent, and then
a walk and then run. Andso you'll love this. I'm gonna see
if it works out. Maybe wecan get you to come down to Uh,
we're gonna be at a live crimescene and we're gonna have access to
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doing all the ship and then we'regoing to be in there withthle. Yeah,
we're gonna go to a nice partof town. That's really we're not
gonna say the real name. Yeah, I'm not gonna say the real name,
but yeah, that's Bill had beenon the air once before I oh,
yeah, yeah, get rid ofthat. It's it's not a good
part of town. And it's definitelynot a good place. Uh, the
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Portland PD Fire and this company areallowed to use it for training exercises,
and yeah they've been apparently it's gonnabe it's being abated. It's been abated.
But there were people squatting, dealing, cooking out of and and yeah
it's it's it's on, like it'son like Donkey Kong pretty regular. I
mean, I was concerned about aKona's kill. When we started making romantry.
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I was like, whoa, thisis not This has gotten a little
spicer than I was expecting because itwas we need to clear these buildings and
I'm like what and he goes,no, there's like there's people in these
Somebody was cooking chicken in a bagand shit, it was ridiculous. I
mean, I mean, and thenyou could smell the wet dog food,
you know, Oh you can smellthey've been smoking. Yeah, pills,
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they've been taking pills that you're notsupposed to smoke. And they were smoking
like oxy Cota and Ship David smokingpills, probably dealing pills and probably making
shit too. Yeah, you couldsmell that. There was the cat piss
smell of meth there and there wasthis actual human piss and you locked in
and like, oh, this wasrenovated five years ago, and then people
immediately shit all over it, likeyou know, it's so it's a real
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place, so you want to go. You're like, yeah, well I'm
in the area more now, soyes, that's it's crazy because you go
there and it's like it is onesmall corner out of this block is basically
just like the Walking Dead. It'sit's right out of an apocalyptic movie.
And then you go it's just likeyour regular you know, Southeast Portland neighborhood.
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Everything's kind of nice, there's somegentrified buildings nearby, and then you
walk into here and it's just likeit's a completely different planet. It's so
surreal. I'll say this, Myredder concealment stuff worked out really well that
day. I wasn't wearing that.I was wearing my inside the way spent
holster for my uh every day carryhandgun. But yeah, I definitely had
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that on that day. I wasover it that day. It's not the
thing. So with that in mind, what else you guys want to talk
about because we already burn this shitup. Let's talk about sex and violence.
That's I choose f's talking about qualificationsfor DPSST because the's probably some people
that are going, what the fuckis that they're getting mad as for not
too okay soptment of standards, trainingand whatever. It's stupid ship yea is
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safety yeah, safety standard training andsafety blah blah blah. Well in Oregon,
we where we live, well notall of us, but where West
lives, they require you to gothrough this you're going to control thing.
Yeah, if you're going to servein some sort of enforcement capacity, you
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have to go a law enforcement gothrough the same stuff too, but it's
a different, different training thing,but it's the same same organization controls it.
Where if you're in another state,you could just say, hey,
I want to go carry a gunand go do security. They're like,
oh, here, go ahead,let's go. You know, that's completely
okay. But Oregon wants their theywant their piece of the pie, they
want the money. Because these peopleit's like getting a driver's license. Guys,
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you don't know shit. You haveto learn actually how to drive.
After you get your driver's license thesame idea. So if you're if you
think that passing the dpss T shootstandards makes you a ninja, you're wrong.
It may it makes you a liabilityto those around you. So yeah,
and there is some there's some law, there is something in it.
I remember, I remember going throughit and I was like, wow,
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that's interesting. And you know,then mostly the guy that was teaching us
was talking stories about when he wasa cop, and so you're gonna have
you know, you're gonna have somany hours of it. If he was
sober, well that's well, youknow at different times, you know what
I'm saying that we had different setof rules but our but our role was
different too. We didn't use batonsor oc or cuffs. We weren't doing
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that. We had zip ties becausewe had to have them for other reasons
because we were dealing with foreign nationals. And then we were also getting on
boats, so that was a littledifferent. And we didn't want an intermediate
thing. So you're going to bedealing with pepper spray and baton, which
is intermediate stuff. And we ourswas lethal or not lethal. It was
it was either or yeah, don'trun. Yeah, that was the thing.
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And then I mean, well,I mean you kick somebody down a
gangplank. Yeah, he tried.I was. I was going up to
the bridge and uh on the outside. I forget my terminology. I was
going out on the fucking wings outsidethe bridge that's going up the ladder and
one of the guys ran up behindme and tried to grab my belt or
get my attention. I turned around, kicked him in the chest, and
I kicked him off the fucking ladderdown to the deck below him. Not
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very nice in the maritime security andstuff like that, right, Yeah,
I watched a guy. I meanit's May twenty sixth on the Columbia where
dock and the river is doing tyorkknots. I mean, and we watched
a guy jumping at the bow toget to the shore docks side. Oh
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man, we're in a retired coalship. There's seven coal base as sing
as fucking never follow him again.Oh so these are just people that weren't
supposed to be on the boat.They just decided they wanted to jump on
the show. So your captain,your XO, your first, second or
third officer, chief engineer, youreally don't have to worry about these guys
are career seemen. You don't haveto really worry about them. Right,
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it's all the deck guys that areYeah, from to give me, I'm
it's awesome nations, Turkey, Pakistan, all those are the countries where they
just don't want him here. Andso there's a wrist that they'll crawl down
the the ropes, they'll jump shipto get in country. They just they
So when I said, don't run, we'd pick a bunch of these guys
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up at the airport. We drivehim in a van wherever the ship because
they're swapping crews. And that one, I believe Bill, I think it
was a bunch of uh, Croatiansand okay, Russian crew or whatever.
Oh is that the one, theone the Russians were there? Russians?
Yeah, Yeah, Well one wasa he was a retired nuclear summary captain
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from the Russian Navy. And youknow, part of homeland security is like,
yeah, no he you escort himto the ship. We don't need
him getting kidnapped or going somewhere.Yeah, because there was a threat because
he had defected in some way.That's how he some ship. Yeah,
he pissed somebody off. So yeah, I didn't. I didn't spend a
lot of time on deck on theship. I was there, I was
delivering people because I was constantly dealingwith the captains or their crew or the
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guys that were flown in. That'swhat I did mostly. It was mostly
on the ship dealing with them.It's fucking weird. I was back around
twenty eleven. You guys are doingthat, m yeah, yeah, ten
eleven, twelve, Yeah, it'sfine. It was interesting. It was
an interesting it was new. Yeah. Yeah, it was a thing.
There's some cool stuff that runs upand down that river in the middle of
the night. Oh cool. Uh, the first time I ever saw Okay,
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so it wasn't associated with being doingthat job. But I was right
in the right position at the mouthof the Columbia in the Gorge. And
the first time I saw one ofthe like the like the cigarette boats that
the seals used, the ones thatwere supposed to be stealth. That's the
first time I saw one. Itwas it was chilling out and they were
testing it. That was a longtime ago now, but that was like,
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oh, well shit, I didn'tthink I was going to see that
cruising up and down the river.But that would make the most sense.
It's just middle of nowhere. Noone cares. But Avery's over here.
Like I've seen so much shit Ieven want to know. No, but
have you? Uh? Have you? Have you? Now? You said
you signed up, right, You'vealready signed up for the class. Yeah,
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yeah, I enrolled, so Ichecked. That says May eighth,
ninth, and tenth. It's athree day class. That's good. So
it's gonna be like an eight hourdeal. Yeah, eight hours a day.
Yeah, and I think the armedis like a week. I think
it's forty hours now it's a lotof Yeah. He explained that to me
as well. He told me thatarmed is very serious. He says he
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wants to get me on the jobdoing unarmed for a while so I can
get an idea of it, andthen oh, yeah, you go armed.
In that way, I have moremore than experience under my belt?
Is it? With being armed security? You have to know the law and
you basically have to follow everything toa t because if you mess up and
you do the wrong thing, youcan go to jail. So, yeah,
if you arrest somebody and all ofa sudden it's kidnapping and you go
it's a felony. Yeah, lawsuits. Yeah, there's a whole whole freight
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train of problems. Like like Jeremysaid, he goes it's all the time.
He is most of the people they'redealing with. Oh here's a good
one. I had this conversation Ihad yesterday, and I want you guys
to chew on this. Everybody who'slistening, you chew on this too.
An individual is coming into a storeand this has nothing to do with Mike's
company, all right, this hasto do with this. This completely different
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institat comes in with a clear creditcard, has a magnetic strip, has
a has the little chip in ittoo, and he has numbers that he
has written down. So he's gotnumbers. Oh no, all right,
and so he's got numbers, he'sgot the security codes, and he's got
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the expiration dates of the cards.He will come to the counter and say,
hey, I need XYZ tobacco products, right, I need this,
this and this. Oh, andthen he'll say, oh, can you
grab something else over there to distractthe cashier. He'll swipe it. It
will say manual entry. It requiresa manually because it's it's saying it doesn't
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work. He hits the manual entrything, he understands the key process,
knocks him in and does it.They walk back over, transaction goes through.
He takes these several hundred dollars withshit and then the then the transaction
is refuted by the bank because it'sstolen credit card number. Now my question
is where do you guys think becauseI thought about this, I mean,
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I'm dropping it on you, wheredo you think they would be able to
get credit card numbers, security codesand and when people and the and their
expiration dates. That one a coupleof different sources. So there's the people
that have the digital scanners and theyjust they scam. They can skim it
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off of your guard from a distance, they can get in with we can
they get a dark security. Peoplewill actually buy uh, stolen credit cards
off of the dark web. That'sanother place you can go. Okay,
so stolen credit cards, but theseare actual I think with there, I
think it's lower tech than that.I think they have some either they're going
through trash right for like, ifyou go to a restaurant and you have
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a takeout order, that type ofthing where you can get lots and lots
of credit card numbers in one givennight. What do you think they're doing
or because I'm thinking it's an insidedeal, like, so there's a couple
of different ways they're doing it,right, Okay, sorry, So the
first way, one of the waysthat they're doing it is they are using
like sniffers to pull the the NFCchip information and then when they run the
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card, they can get it thatway. And also like anybody can take
a like if you're a waitress orsomething like that, you could use a
reader, yeah, and and readit and then write down that information and
do it that way. Like there'sa thousand different That's the way I was
thinking. It's not on your receipt. The information is not on your receipt,
you know, it's just the lastfour numbers typically. Well there's also
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the skimmers. I forgot about thatas well, right, but those don't
those don't have all the information.You still have to usually get an actual
copy of the car. Okay,So so what I thought, So what
I thought was happening is kind ofwhat you're saying, like somebody's giving them
the number, or they're they're gettingthe number real quick. They're like,
well, zip, get the number. They get the security code and the
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date, and they write it downreal quick when they go to do the
exchange of information, and then theyhave it, they start building a little
database. And then you can alsodo it by getting off the web.
If you hack some of these websiteyou can download it all there. But
what Wes was saying about the Internetis like buying it. You can go
onto the dark web and buy youknow, because of card information. I've
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only I've only snooped around on thedark web a couple of times. But
one time I did and went toa site that was selling stolen credit cards.
You were looking for boy, ass, weren't you. I was relaxed,
p diddy, Jesus Christ. Iwas to avoid that. Don't go
back on the dark web. Ifound out that, like, that is
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a much bigger problem than you thinkit would be. Oh dude, yeah
this freaky people. Yeah. Soonce I found that out, because I
was watching videos of people who aretelling their stories about it, and they're
like, d it's too I waslike, okay, so it's a miracle.
I didn't stumble across any of that. So I'm just not going to
go back. But now I've gotone more interesting thing, So I will
I will tell the individual that Iwas talking to about this, because they're
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the store owner and they're running intothis and it's been going on. They've
been they've caught this person, butthe police won't do anything about it.
So let's go right past that.So I was like, that's a whole
different set of problems. But uh, And then the other one was she
h the individual she gets call she'sa listing agent, and people alerted her
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to her listing. The next doorneighbors said there are people inside the house
and she's like what and there shepulls up, looks when does broken Two
kids, two teenagers inside the house, beet kicked up, drinking coffee and
laughing, talk about how they justbroke into this house. She calls the
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cops. Cops show up, butguys doing you know, uh, we're
sitting here chilling, you know,da da da da da. And you're
like, well, who are you? We're not telling me, you're not
giving your names. And I'm like, wait a minute, you're in a
crime scene right now, because thereis literally there's a B and e.
This is straight up b and E. There's probable cause. Now you have
to produce or you get arrested.Oh we'll grab our ID okay, and
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the cops let them run out ofthe building and run away. Wow yeah
yeah, okay, Wes, youdo your job, You'll just go to
jail with these fuck offs. Don'thave to do theirs. And so,
and I may say this any policeofficers listening to this, this is a
credible story. Uh, the sourceis legit. And it's sad that that
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happened. I hope that you're notallowing that to happen because I think I
just had an incident here at thehouse and that the cops were like,
yeah, there's nothing we can do. And I was like, I'm trying
to squad. Yeah, the squadin some states what happened, it wasn't.
There was a neighbor conflict and sowe were we were dealing with that.
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But yeah, I mean the thingis is I mean cops they're dead
now, Well no, I meanit's just the tools of war are different,
right, and so it's like,okay, so now when I'm like,
okay, let's call the cops,like the cops aren't going to do
anything, Like I'm not calling thecops to arrest you. I'm calling the
cops so I can get an officialdocument showing what you're doing, so that
when I take you to court andsue you, I have official evidence to
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prove that. I mean, thisis yeah, the system. I'm not
calling the cops because they're going todo anything. I know they're not going
to do anything. So what they'regonna do is they're going to Well that's
what generally, what is we weretalking about that too. Like ten years
ago, we lived in a differentplace. M hm. Today we're in
a different situation with policing. Maybetown to town it's different. But it
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certainly seems like there's a big handsoff policy that seems to be involved,
like the Doolittle in comparison to whatit should be. And it's unfortunate because
I know it's probably not the copsthat are doing it. It's the procedures
that they're allowed to do. They'relike, hey, don't do it because
the wasn't it like City of Portlandthat they got getting Yeah, but getting
mad at the cops is like gettingmad at the monitor of your computer for
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doing something. It's like you're justa tool. You're not you don't have
They have a little bit of literallyleft and right. That's law enforcement.
They're they're as far as the state'sconcerned. The people and the animals that
are used in law enforcement are justtools that are used in order to to
you know, secure the states.So yeah, I think the word was
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discretion and they don't have a lot. It's either yes or no checkbox,
a checkbox B. And unfortunately,I think that was a big shift.
I liked it better when it waspeace officers rather, you know, instead
of a law enforcement officer, becauseit seemed like the peace officer timeline there
was a lot more discretion, alot more investigation. Yeah. Now,
yeah, that's what I'm saying.It's like, So with that in mind,
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I think we should end this segmentbecause we're going to break into something
even more interesting in the next It'llbe a little more conspiratorial and a little
bit more topical. So and thiswill be the next week, so I
think that'd be I think we shouldtalk about PDDY in the next one and
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Hey, welcome back to Unsuppressed.I am less with boys as usual.
Got some some uh think things thatwe're gonna talk about. Big changes aren't
gonna come over the next month orso, all positive changes, and I
think it's going to lead to somegreat things for Unsuppressed and for all of
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our fans. Oh the definitely someinteresting stories are going to come up,
that's for sure. Yeah. Andso with with big changes came rumors and
things like that. So we're notgoing anywhere, but things are gonna change,
and we're excited for change. Sohold on, that's a relative statement.
Going somewhere and going anywhere are twodifferent things. Okay, life's life
is always going. We will beon the internet, my daughter. We're
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not going to leave the internet.The show is not going to go any
going to go away, going toquit. No, we're not quitters.
So now, but this is interestingfor Avery. No, Avery's not a
quitter. He's he's a I'm eventuallyjust gonna get tired of you guys.
Is TRT recently and his girlfriend waspissed off about it. Well, yeah,
well you know that's true. Onthe phone we were off air and
(01:07):
she's on the phone with us.She's jumping on and go on like tell
them to get back on the TRTso I can get back on that d
And we're like she was like,well hold on, she was like looking
for like the s D the supersuper dong. So then we are doing
sit up and then like some he'sgot like three hot girls just like like
hanging off of him while he's onthe couch getting his computer set up,
(01:29):
and we're like, how does thisguy need TRT? It's first world problems,
Wes, all right, that's whatit comes down to, First world
problems, all right, picking onAvery. So it's not even picking on
Avery. It's basically saying state ofthe Union. Avery has three high girls
in his house. Dam done.He doesn't even care. He's just like
this. It is what it is, you know. Is now the difference
(01:51):
is is Avery's the guys like,but I could have six, that's all
I got to do now, justsix, and I will do twelve.
I just have more and more.Yeah, rookie numbers, Yeah right,
I mean I mean you know,I mean yeah, so those with that
in mind did get those numbers out. Why don't you tell us what you're
getting ready to do? West becausethere's been a lot of background discussions.
Obviously, I've been involved in alot of stuff on the on the free
(02:12):
side of it. So what areyou going to be doing? Yeah,
So, with media not being aslucrative as everyone thinks it is, I'm
looking to expand my knowledge and mycareer buying something new. So a friend
of ours mete friend of Bill PatrickAvery and I a former roommate of mine
(02:34):
as a security company, and he'skind of pointed me in the direction of
getting qualified to be well, startingout as an unarmed security officer and eventually
becoming an armed security officer, sobe private security, not police or anything
like that. And so I havesigned up for my unarmed DPSST qualification class.
(02:55):
It's gonna take a place in May. So I had a pan of
pocket for that to get that started. But that will eventually lead to some
bigger and better things for me inmy future. So if you're really looking
for him, he's really looking forwardto that red shirt with the khaki pants.
He's going to be right there bythe shopping carts. It targets I'm
just playing no like a black polo, tucked down with my gut like hanging
(03:17):
over my belt. I stooped bothmy thumbs in and a lock around and
like so fifteen eleven is the mostsuperior hanggun background. Balls with balls don't
eat it look completely flood like.There's nothing wrong. Look, there's nothing
wrong with a nineteen eleven or atwenty eleven or any of those things.
The difference is is that if you'rebuying those tools, either you're doing comp
(03:39):
shooting or you just like pain andsuffering. If you're carrying it, that's
that's all there is to It's heavy. Now. Question I have is have
you ever done anything like this?Have you ever gone through any of those
type of those those little training programs, because it's not a school, it's
it's a training program. It's it'sseveral hours. Nothing like this. No,
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I mean, I'm done professional trainingclasses for jobs. I tried to
become an insurance producer back in twentyfifteen. That didn't work out. Tried
to do a couple of things.I did get a job that was very
highly watched as far as your background. I worked as a treatment aid for
a drug rehob house and I hadto do a Form four for that one.
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I had to do all ten fingerprintsback on the day, I had
to go to a notary and Ihad to do all ten on paper and
a very thorough background check on thatone, and then I'd do CPR and
first aid qualifications to be able todo that. So who el's done their
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armed DPSST here? Who's done itbefore? You? I know? Pat?
Okay? So armed? Okay?He did? Unarmed? What well
did they? What were you doing? What capacity did you have to do
it for? I had ambitions ofdoing stuff, but got a job at
Tactle Taylor instead. Oh so youdid first, you got the first phase
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done, and then you're like,I don't I go and do the other
thing. Yeah, gotcha. SoI will say this that DPSST, the
quall itself, the shoot call isjoke. It's it's joke. I looked
it up super I found the Oregonwebsite and they showed it. I thought
the maximum range is like ten yards. Yeah, you do it all in
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a twenty five yard range and youhave to do some really basic stuff and
you have to hit the actual target. You don't there's no a zone B
zone seat that as a reason.I just score three between three and five
and then on I was ringing upon the rifle. For air fifteen,
you have to hit twenty six outof thirty shots. Yeah, but you're
not going to be you won't beregistering with the rifle. It will only
be pistol that job. Nope,that's a follow on. But I also
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know that you're going to be doingbaton and then you'll do cuffing and then
you'd say taser. He said.The three that he wants me to get
down are baton, OC and handcuffand then I guess taser would would come
after. There should be one.They should have class know, I want
to be there. Why so youcan laugh you're a horrible person, because
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I think I get one of therules of the with some instructors. You
have to get exposed to the OCspray and then you also have to get
taste, so you know how itfeels. Yeah, don't wear contacts that
day. I'm good. I'll justbe I'll be off the side, just
you know, I shall not fear. So I have the question, Avery,
since you've eaten gas before and didthe thing in the military, is
that oc OC was the one thingI failed the military. It was successful
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on everything other than oc spray,so it just ate you up. You
couldn't get through the battle battle throughthe ban or zoom. No, I
just ran out of time. Youhave a time like obstacle course and they
spray you and then you have togo run the obstacle course. And for
some reason I missed the time.I mean it did not feel like five
minutes, but it was five minutesapparently. I would like to point out,
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this is the first time I've heardof any shit like this, avery
failing anything. Yeah, ever,this is like, that's a rare situation.
One. Yeah, yeah, itwas. It was so I became
a less lethal instructor instructor, soI get to teach in the military.
I was allowed to teach the instructors, so like the platoon instructors, on
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how to do all the less lethalmunitions. So I went to the school
in uh Fort Lee I think itwas, and and did that. But
yeah, I had a retest andthat was pretty embarrassing. What place is
that? What is actual name?Virginia's actually Fort Lee? Okay, because
I heard that a bunch of willlike brag changed his name and oh probably
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yeah, yeah, the bunch ofthem changed their name. So I wasn't
sure if that was the new Idon't subscribe to that wilk ideology. I
love the fact that I love that. It's like, where do you go?
I'm at Benning. Yeah it's adifferent name. No, it's not
still Binning. I intentionally called FortFort Lewis still and everybody's like, uh,
you mean joint Joint Base Lewis McCord. I No, I mean Fort
Lewis. I mean Lewis. I'mnot talking about the airbase. I'm talking
(08:07):
about for Lewis. What do yougo? I'm turning right, I'm going
through that way. So, uhnow, my question is is that after
the discussion with the leadership of thatcompany, the idea is is that you
go through, get all your licenses, get all your kit, which is
pretty much standard fair, and thenyou here're going to get a shot at
potentially you know, doing this andit does make decent money. Already know
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what that all looks like, andI know what the scheduling is, which
will be really functional for you.So it keeps this going and well it
keeps your normal day job going toso it's not really a problem. But
my question is are you looking forwardto it? Yeah? Actually you want
to put hands on somebody. SoI'm Mike. We're going to say his
name is Mike. Mike beat thehell out of somebody the other night.
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So with they there come back looksfor been beating people up. No,
well, okay, what are youtalking about. That's part of the experience.
So, dude, where you're goingto work is not a nice You're
going to defend yourself. Enjoy thataspect of the job. But if I
have to do it, I'll doit. You don't enjoy it, man,
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fun I can tell like the waythis block looks like Wes is in
the one corner and every I'm inthe up top corner and there's Avery and
Pat at the bottom. I'm lookingat Avery's face, going, yes,
jacket somebody up would be part ofthe reason I'd want to do the job.
It's exactly the reason. Well okay, so perfect example. And I
know if Mike is listening, hewill be because I know he does.
He told me that they have Iknow that's the reason I'm using. Yeah
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that box, so the little thing, yeah yeah, So they've had a
theft ring that they've been dealing withundercover, and I mean, I'm not
going to talk about the businesses oranything like that. But these people have
been conducting extensive theft and they actuallycaught one of them, and the dude
wanted to fight and he lost,so yep, yeah, and he said,
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look, it was only going togo downhill. It could have only
went worse for him. So luckilyit was just fisty cuffs and wrestling to
the ground and sorting him out.He used a little bit of a street
jiu jitsu street jutsu, and heand the guy said he went to jail,
but he said they're still they're stillworking stuff out, which is good.
And but he I get to talkto most, you know most three
(10:28):
or four times a week. Wetalk same thing like you and I do,
Pat and he's telling me kind ofwhat's going on, and you know,
he goes to calls and deals withit. And yeah, you're going
to be very busy and that's goingto be in a very interesting job.
And the fortunate thing is now goingto go to Actually the point of this,
so I led you in to sayingyou're gonna get your gpss T.
I don't give a shit, Noone cares you're gonna get it. You're
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gonna pass it. It'll be fine. You're gonna do great. Now,
my question is is because we're goingto be helping teach Mike's people, Okay,
that's gonna be a thing, andyou're gonna be one of his people.
My question to Avery is is ifyou were going to work problems try
to right? Well, unfortunately,I know how many jobs you have,
So that's that. Thank you're loving. I just got another one, by
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the way, So my question is, don't feed the marines? Yeah,
well crayons, so you know,the according to Jeremy is like nom nom.
So anyway, Uh, that's awhole different guy. He's the reason
why we have that exactly lots.Yeah, but yeah, but with that
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mind, Mike's company, Uh,if you were going to teach people who
had just passed or nominally could passthe DPSST, would you start with glasshouse
and all that stuff teaching you I'mactually how to pie and pick up.
Like I mentioned, I haven't donethe armed so I don't really know to
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what level. My assumption is isthat they are not at a very good
level right now. It's pretty basicand whatnot. But I have people trying
to distract me, right now arethey naked caps drawing from the whole the
loaded weapon might be a concern.Avery, if your penis is in danger,
just nod. I don't think itis. We're going to YouTube get
(12:18):
sucked off, right fucking now.It's I had a girlfriend here to get
me a blow drive one of ourepisodes once back when Bild. Now we're
doing conspira fact. I had girlfriendover and she was like, she texted
me during the episode, she justpull your pants down. Yeah, surves
back tip jar at whatever dot com. You need to pay us to stop
(12:39):
doing this bullshit. So what I'mdoing is I'm looking at the picture behind
Avery's head and I'm occasionally seeing peoplemove around and I can't. Yeah,
I mean, we all know theirold bitches, so that's good. I
was gonna slip the camera around,but she put her shirt back down,
so ah, cheater. Which onewas it she flashed or is he just
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changing? No? I don't thinkwe do that on this show, so
I won't. I can blur thisshow. Well, this show is completely
reasonable. Now he can blur anythingout. I had to cover that one
time Avery showed us some you know, things appropriate. I would never I
would never do that. That wasa very fun episode to edit. Well,
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if we're on YouTube, that meanswe go to porn hub. Oh
yeah, we can't, that's thething. Yeah, we wouldn't get a
whole lot of likes because we're showingit. But like we could post on
porn hub because it is a socialmedia site. Hell yeah, Minecraft on
porn Hub. It's hilarious. Yeah. Different times we're like, I my,
(13:43):
you know my wank sessions. I'vestumbled across stuff that's not even porn
on porn Hub. I'm the fuckis this? I can't jerk off to
this? What all this sucks?I can't jack off to this? All
right, I have a business opportunity, but I don't want to tell you
guys on on air, So remindme when we're off. Okay, so
steal I have a question there.You don't want to get jacked off?
(14:03):
Okay, So you have a greencredit card cover. It looks like an
American Express. Yeah, let's seeAmerican Defender. Oh that's hot, American
Defense. That's cool. I gota little Jordan Peterson right there. Okay,
okay, I know what that mywinter I got my winter stuff right
(14:26):
there? Still laptop seeing some milesnice, just put big strips of lcrow
on there. And then so youjust stick all your Mara hold on.
Director of Riftop Operations is hot.That's hot. Yeah, that's awesome.
That's a good one. Yeah.So I'll say that what we're gonna do
is we're gonna end up doing astandards drill. So we're gonna we're gonna
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have one hundred and fifty rounds orso. It's going to be developing standards
and see if to make sure thesepeople can actually safely operate a firearm,
you know that thing. Oh yeah, we're talking about them there. Yeah,
we'll go there, so we cantalk about that stuff too. I'd
much rather talk about something more racy, but I'm more about that life.
But yeah, next time. Yeah, so we're going to do that.
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And then my question is do youthink that uh, busting out glasshouse and
start having them. Well, so, in dealing with the fundamentals, you
have to make sure that they havethe basics of fire manipulation and safety under
control. And then one would assumethat although you never like stop being concerned
about the safety aspect of it,you move on past it. Right,
(15:35):
So we assume that they have somelevel of proficiency with fire safety and manipulation,
and then if they don't, thenyou have to you know, step
back. But then from yeah,but then from there you start implementing the
tactics and techniques in order to dothe room clearing that has been adopted by
the organization that you're working for,because you know, each organization will have
different TTPs, tactics, techniques,some procedures, and then you start teaching
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them. Now, how you teachyou usually do a crawl walk run.
That's kind of been the Army's thingforever. And you start off with crawl,
which would be a glass house orsomething to the extent, and then
a walk and then run. Andso you'll love this. I'm gonna see
if it works out. Maybe wecan get you to come down to Uh,
we're gonna be at a live crimescene and we're gonna have access to
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doing all the ship and then we'regoing to be in there withthle. Yeah,
we're gonna go to a nice partof town. That's really we're not
gonna say the real name. Yeah, I'm not gonna say the real name,
but yeah, that's Bill had beenon the air once before I oh,
yeah, yeah, get rid ofthat. It's it's not a good
part of town. And it's definitelynot a good place. Uh, the
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Portland PD Fire and this company areallowed to use it for training exercises,
and yeah they've been apparently it's gonnabe it's being abated. It's been abated.
But there were people squatting, dealing, cooking out of and and yeah
it's it's it's on, like it'son like Donkey Kong pretty regular. I
mean, I was concerned about aKona's kill. When we started making romantry.
(17:03):
I was like, whoa, thisis not This has gotten a little
spicer than I was expecting because itwas we need to clear these buildings and
I'm like what and he goes,no, there's like there's people in these
Somebody was cooking chicken in a bagand shit, it was ridiculous. I
mean, I mean, and thenyou could smell the wet dog food,
you know, Oh you can smellthey've been smoking. Yeah, pills,
(17:26):
they've been taking pills that you're notsupposed to smoke. And they were smoking
like oxy Cota and Ship David smokingpills, probably dealing pills and probably making
shit too. Yeah, you couldsmell that. There was the cat piss
smell of meth there and there wasthis actual human piss and you locked in
and like, oh, this wasrenovated five years ago, and then people
immediately shit all over it, likeyou know, it's so it's a real
(17:48):
place, so you want to go. You're like, yeah, well I'm
in the area more now, soyes, that's it's crazy because you go
there and it's like it is onesmall corner out of this block is basically
just like the Walking Dead. It'sit's right out of an apocalyptic movie.
And then you go it's just likeyour regular you know, Southeast Portland neighborhood.
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Everything's kind of nice, there's somegentrified buildings nearby, and then you
walk into here and it's just likeit's a completely different planet. It's so
surreal. I'll say this, Myredder concealment stuff worked out really well that
day. I wasn't wearing that.I was wearing my inside the way spent
holster for my uh every day carryhandgun. But yeah, I definitely had
(18:33):
that on that day. I wasover it that day. It's not the
thing. So with that in mind, what else you guys want to talk
about because we already burn this shitup. Let's talk about sex and violence.
That's I choose f's talking about qualificationsfor DPSST because the's probably some people
that are going, what the fuckis that they're getting mad as for not
too okay soptment of standards, trainingand whatever. It's stupid ship yea is
(18:56):
safety yeah, safety standard training andsafety blah blah blah. Well in Oregon,
we where we live, well notall of us, but where West
lives, they require you to gothrough this you're going to control thing.
Yeah, if you're going to servein some sort of enforcement capacity, you
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have to go a law enforcement gothrough the same stuff too, but it's
a different, different training thing,but it's the same same organization controls it.
Where if you're in another state,you could just say, hey,
I want to go carry a gunand go do security. They're like,
oh, here, go ahead,let's go. You know, that's completely
okay. But Oregon wants their theywant their piece of the pie, they
want the money. Because these peopleit's like getting a driver's license. Guys,
(19:41):
you don't know shit. You haveto learn actually how to drive.
After you get your driver's license thesame idea. So if you're if you
think that passing the dpss T shootstandards makes you a ninja, you're wrong.
It may it makes you a liabilityto those around you. So yeah,
and there is some there's some law, there is something in it.
I remember, I remember going throughit and I was like, wow,
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that's interesting. And you know,then mostly the guy that was teaching us
was talking stories about when he wasa cop, and so you're gonna have
you know, you're gonna have somany hours of it. If he was
sober, well that's well, youknow at different times, you know what
I'm saying that we had different setof rules but our but our role was
different too. We didn't use batonsor oc or cuffs. We weren't doing
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that. We had zip ties becausewe had to have them for other reasons
because we were dealing with foreign nationals. And then we were also getting on
boats, so that was a littledifferent. And we didn't want an intermediate
thing. So you're going to bedealing with pepper spray and baton, which
is intermediate stuff. And we ourswas lethal or not lethal. It was
it was either or yeah, don'trun. Yeah, that was the thing.
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And then I mean, well,I mean you kick somebody down a
gangplank. Yeah, he tried.I was. I was going up to
the bridge and uh on the outside. I forget my terminology. I was
going out on the fucking wings outsidethe bridge that's going up the ladder and
one of the guys ran up behindme and tried to grab my belt or
get my attention. I turned around, kicked him in the chest, and
I kicked him off the fucking ladderdown to the deck below him. Not
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very nice in the maritime security andstuff like that, right, Yeah,
I watched a guy. I meanit's May twenty sixth on the Columbia where
dock and the river is doing tyorkknots. I mean, and we watched
a guy jumping at the bow toget to the shore docks side. Oh
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man, we're in a retired coalship. There's seven coal base as sing
as fucking never follow him again.Oh so these are just people that weren't
supposed to be on the boat.They just decided they wanted to jump on
the show. So your captain,your XO, your first, second or
third officer, chief engineer, youreally don't have to worry about these guys
are career seemen. You don't haveto really worry about them. Right,
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it's all the deck guys that areYeah, from to give me, I'm
it's awesome nations, Turkey, Pakistan, all those are the countries where they
just don't want him here. Andso there's a wrist that they'll crawl down
the the ropes, they'll jump shipto get in country. They just they
So when I said, don't run, we'd pick a bunch of these guys
(22:18):
up at the airport. We drivehim in a van wherever the ship because
they're swapping crews. And that one, I believe Bill, I think it
was a bunch of uh, Croatiansand okay, Russian crew or whatever.
Oh is that the one, theone the Russians were there? Russians?
Yeah, Yeah, Well one wasa he was a retired nuclear summary captain
(22:41):
from the Russian Navy. And youknow, part of homeland security is like,
yeah, no he you escort himto the ship. We don't need
him getting kidnapped or going somewhere.Yeah, because there was a threat because
he had defected in some way.That's how he some ship. Yeah,
he pissed somebody off. So yeah, I didn't. I didn't spend a
lot of time on deck on theship. I was there, I was
delivering people because I was constantly dealingwith the captains or their crew or the
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guys that were flown in. That'swhat I did mostly. It was mostly
on the ship dealing with them.It's fucking weird. I was back around
twenty eleven. You guys are doingthat, m yeah, yeah, ten
eleven, twelve, Yeah, it'sfine. It was interesting. It was
an interesting it was new. Yeah. Yeah, it was a thing.
There's some cool stuff that runs upand down that river in the middle of
the night. Oh cool. Uh, the first time I ever saw Okay,
(23:27):
so it wasn't associated with being doingthat job. But I was right
in the right position at the mouthof the Columbia in the Gorge. And
the first time I saw one ofthe like the like the cigarette boats that
the seals used, the ones thatwere supposed to be stealth. That's the
first time I saw one. Itwas it was chilling out and they were
testing it. That was a longtime ago now, but that was like,
(23:48):
oh, well shit, I didn'tthink I was going to see that
cruising up and down the river.But that would make the most sense.
It's just middle of nowhere. Noone cares. But Avery's over here.
Like I've seen so much shit Ieven want to know. No, but
have you? Uh? Have you? Have you? Now? You said
you signed up, right, You'vealready signed up for the class. Yeah,
(24:12):
yeah, I enrolled, so Ichecked. That says May eighth,
ninth, and tenth. It's athree day class. That's good. So
it's gonna be like an eight hourdeal. Yeah, eight hours a day.
Yeah, and I think the armedis like a week. I think
it's forty hours now it's a lotof Yeah. He explained that to me
as well. He told me thatarmed is very serious. He says he
(24:32):
wants to get me on the jobdoing unarmed for a while so I can
get an idea of it, andthen oh, yeah, you go armed.
In that way, I have moremore than experience under my belt?
Is it? With being armed security? You have to know the law and
you basically have to follow everything toa t because if you mess up and
you do the wrong thing, youcan go to jail. So, yeah,
if you arrest somebody and all ofa sudden it's kidnapping and you go
it's a felony. Yeah, lawsuits. Yeah, there's a whole whole freight
(24:56):
train of problems. Like like Jeremysaid, he goes it's all the time.
He is most of the people they'redealing with. Oh here's a good
one. I had this conversation Ihad yesterday, and I want you guys
to chew on this. Everybody who'slistening, you chew on this too.
An individual is coming into a storeand this has nothing to do with Mike's
company, all right, this hasto do with this. This completely different
(25:19):
institat comes in with a clear creditcard, has a magnetic strip, has
a has the little chip in ittoo, and he has numbers that he
has written down. So he's gotnumbers. Oh no, all right,
and so he's got numbers, he'sgot the security codes, and he's got
(25:40):
the expiration dates of the cards.He will come to the counter and say,
hey, I need XYZ tobacco products, right, I need this,
this and this. Oh, andthen he'll say, oh, can you
grab something else over there to distractthe cashier. He'll swipe it. It
will say manual entry. It requiresa manually because it's it's saying it doesn't
(26:00):
work. He hits the manual entrything, he understands the key process,
knocks him in and does it.They walk back over, transaction goes through.
He takes these several hundred dollars withshit and then the then the transaction
is refuted by the bank because it'sstolen credit card number. Now my question
is where do you guys think becauseI thought about this, I mean,
(26:25):
I'm dropping it on you, wheredo you think they would be able to
get credit card numbers, security codesand and when people and the and their
expiration dates. That one a coupleof different sources. So there's the people
that have the digital scanners and theyjust they scam. They can skim it
(26:45):
off of your guard from a distance, they can get in with we can
they get a dark security. Peoplewill actually buy uh, stolen credit cards
off of the dark web. That'sanother place you can go. Okay,
so stolen credit cards, but theseare actual I think with there, I
think it's lower tech than that.I think they have some either they're going
through trash right for like, ifyou go to a restaurant and you have
(27:08):
a takeout order, that type ofthing where you can get lots and lots
of credit card numbers in one givennight. What do you think they're doing
or because I'm thinking it's an insidedeal, like, so there's a couple
of different ways they're doing it,right, Okay, sorry, So the
first way, one of the waysthat they're doing it is they are using
like sniffers to pull the the NFCchip information and then when they run the
(27:36):
card, they can get it thatway. And also like anybody can take
a like if you're a waitress orsomething like that, you could use a
reader, yeah, and and readit and then write down that information and
do it that way. Like there'sa thousand different That's the way I was
thinking. It's not on your receipt. The information is not on your receipt,
you know, it's just the lastfour numbers typically. Well there's also
(27:59):
the skimmers. I forgot about thatas well, right, but those don't
those don't have all the information.You still have to usually get an actual
copy of the car. Okay,So so what I thought, So what
I thought was happening is kind ofwhat you're saying, like somebody's giving them
the number, or they're they're gettingthe number real quick. They're like,
well, zip, get the number. They get the security code and the
(28:19):
date, and they write it downreal quick when they go to do the
exchange of information, and then theyhave it, they start building a little
database. And then you can alsodo it by getting off the web.
If you hack some of these websiteyou can download it all there. But
what Wes was saying about the Internetis like buying it. You can go
onto the dark web and buy youknow, because of card information. I've
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only I've only snooped around on thedark web a couple of times. But
one time I did and went toa site that was selling stolen credit cards.
You were looking for boy, ass, weren't you. I was relaxed,
p diddy, Jesus Christ. Iwas to avoid that. Don't go
back on the dark web. Ifound out that, like, that is
(29:03):
a much bigger problem than you thinkit would be. Oh dude, yeah
this freaky people. Yeah. Soonce I found that out, because I
was watching videos of people who aretelling their stories about it, and they're
like, d it's too I waslike, okay, so it's a miracle.
I didn't stumble across any of that. So I'm just not going to
go back. But now I've gotone more interesting thing, So I will
I will tell the individual that Iwas talking to about this, because they're
(29:25):
the store owner and they're running intothis and it's been going on. They've
been they've caught this person, butthe police won't do anything about it.
So let's go right past that.So I was like, that's a whole
different set of problems. But uh, And then the other one was she
h the individual she gets call she'sa listing agent, and people alerted her
(29:48):
to her listing. The next doorneighbors said there are people inside the house
and she's like what and there shepulls up, looks when does broken Two
kids, two teenagers inside the house, beet kicked up, drinking coffee and
laughing, talk about how they justbroke into this house. She calls the
(30:11):
cops. Cops show up, butguys doing you know, uh, we're
sitting here chilling, you know,da da da da da. And you're
like, well, who are you? We're not telling me, you're not
giving your names. And I'm like, wait a minute, you're in a
crime scene right now, because thereis literally there's a B and e.
This is straight up b and E. There's probable cause. Now you have
to produce or you get arrested.Oh we'll grab our ID okay, and
(30:34):
the cops let them run out ofthe building and run away. Wow yeah
yeah, okay, Wes, youdo your job, You'll just go to
jail with these fuck offs. Don'thave to do theirs. And so,
and I may say this any policeofficers listening to this, this is a
credible story. Uh, the sourceis legit. And it's sad that that
(30:55):
happened. I hope that you're notallowing that to happen because I think I
just had an incident here at thehouse and that the cops were like,
yeah, there's nothing we can do. And I was like, I'm trying
to squad. Yeah, the squadin some states what happened, it wasn't.
There was a neighbor conflict and sowe were we were dealing with that.
(31:18):
But yeah, I mean the thingis is I mean cops they're dead
now, Well no, I meanit's just the tools of war are different,
right, and so it's like,okay, so now when I'm like,
okay, let's call the cops,like the cops aren't going to do
anything, Like I'm not calling thecops to arrest you. I'm calling the
cops so I can get an officialdocument showing what you're doing, so that
when I take you to court andsue you, I have official evidence to
(31:42):
prove that. I mean, thisis yeah, the system. I'm not
calling the cops because they're going todo anything. I know they're not going
to do anything. So what they'regonna do is they're going to Well that's
what generally, what is we weretalking about that too. Like ten years
ago, we lived in a differentplace. M hm. Today we're in
a different situation with policing. Maybetown to town it's different. But it
(32:06):
certainly seems like there's a big handsoff policy that seems to be involved,
like the Doolittle in comparison to whatit should be. And it's unfortunate because
I know it's probably not the copsthat are doing it. It's the procedures
that they're allowed to do. They'relike, hey, don't do it because
the wasn't it like City of Portlandthat they got getting Yeah, but getting
mad at the cops is like gettingmad at the monitor of your computer for
(32:28):
doing something. It's like you're justa tool. You're not you don't have
They have a little bit of literallyleft and right. That's law enforcement.
They're they're as far as the state'sconcerned. The people and the animals that
are used in law enforcement are justtools that are used in order to to
you know, secure the states.So yeah, I think the word was
(32:49):
discretion and they don't have a lot. It's either yes or no checkbox,
a checkbox B. And unfortunately,I think that was a big shift.
I liked it better when it waspeace officers rather, you know, instead
of a law enforcement officer, becauseit seemed like the peace officer timeline there
was a lot more discretion, alot more investigation. Yeah. Now,
yeah, that's what I'm saying.It's like, So with that in mind,
(33:13):
I think we should end this segmentbecause we're going to break into something
even more interesting in the next It'llbe a little more conspiratorial and a little
bit more topical. So and thiswill be the next week, so I
think that'd be I think we shouldtalk about PDDY in the next one and
you can mix it up. Yeah, absolutely so, guys check us out.
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