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Speaker 1 (00:08):
The season has begun people in what has been one
of the most unbelievable ways for the Buffalo Bills. In
what was seen as a historic comeback on Sunday Night,
the Buffalo Bills take down the Baltimore Ravens forty one
to forty a game that many thought was lost was
eventually one, which is why tonight's tagline is it's not
jover till we say it's jover. Because the Buffalo Bills
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prove that they have the comeback gene as early as
Week one, and we will have to see for the
rest of the year if they can maintain it. But
one thing is for sure, the vibes are definitely better
than what they could have been. As we head into
Week two against the New York Jets and tonight's episode,
we will recap all of the great things that we
saw in that matchup with Baltimore and the not great
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things that we also saw in the matchup against Baltimore,
and preview the upcoming matchup with the Jets, as we
are looking at a team with a very similar form
sim Weler formula to what Baltimore brought that could impact
the Bills negatively but maybe not all hope is lost
and I'm really excited to talk about it all with
you all here tonight on this week's episode of Under Review.
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Enough of me y happen, Let's roll that intro.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Previous play, We'll go under Review.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
And once again, good people, thank you so much for
tuning into this week's episode of Under Review. My name
is Joe DeRosa and I already gave you my tagline
for tonight. And like I said before, we're going to
talk about that awesome matchup against the Ravens and preview
the upcoming matchup against the New York Jets. And when
I say we, I never just made me. I have
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a guest this week, someone who I owe a lot
to because.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
He found me.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
He is the reason that I am here at Cover one.
If you like me, then you can be thankful that
he did it. If you don't like me, then you
could blame him for doing it. But it is the
one and only mister Aaron Quinn, one half of to
See One Buff podcast erin Thank you so much for
being here.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It's been a while. It's good to get you back
on here.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Appreciate you having me on. Man, you gotta stop introducing me.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
That way, I get more hate mail and threats for
bringing No, I'm just kidding. I'm super happy to have
you on the team, man, But no, you don't owe
me anything. You're doing a great job all on your
own here, and I appreciate you bringing me on the
show whenever you get a.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Chance, absolutely, man. Yeah, your insight is always welcome here again.
Love the work that you engrob do every single.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Ye what people might not know, a little insight scoop
you and I head ahead here in the Cover one
Fantasy Dynasty here this evening. I got robbed here this week,
losing to uh, mister Chris Chause of the Cover one
Fantasy Lee YouTube channel. So fantasy guru who dominates our league.
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I thought I had him up against the ropes this week,
but now so now I'm coming, man, I need to
I can't lose back to back games. We know the
statistics of teams that lose back to back and get
in the playoffs show I gotta get in the playoffs
this year.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, I can happily say that my Week one was
the polar opposite. I don't want to say dominated, but
I had a pretty good size victory over mister Greg
Morris who thought about blowing his team up before the
season began.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
But when I looked at it, him like, I don't
think your team's that bad.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
But yeah, did you tell him not to?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Because I'll tell you the reason he was making that,
and I think it is I'm not confirmed this, but
the reason I think he was saying about blowing his
team up was I had a big offer on the
table because he's got Bijeon, right, yeah, I think it
was like Bijeon, maybe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Does he have Burrow too.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I'm gonna pull this on anyways, you know what to
do this for you. I feel bad for your crowd.
They don't care about our fans. But anyways, I made
him some like massive deal of like trying to basically,
I think take Pits, Burrow and beijon office team, and
I gave them everything I had, like basically besides Jaden Daniels,
and he was like, I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I was like, come on, dude, your team's not that good.
Blow it up.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I feel like you're a terrible, terrible influence when it
comes to trades on the table. I can already picture
the DMS you said. It's like, oh, dude, but think
about this, you could get this many first round picks
in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well, and I sell myself.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I give up my picks, and I'm like, hey, my
plans not tell twenty twenty eight, so you're probably gonna
get a good pick out of it. Like I'm going
to lose the next couple of years. That's my pitch
to everybody.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So I hope the rest of the league's not watching
this because they're going to be on to me.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Maybe, but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's still a ton of fun and we will see
how this week's matchup goes. But before we move on
to this week's actual matchup for the Buffalo Bills against
the New York Jets, I want to just put a
bow on the conversation with the Bills and the Ravens matchup,
because I know it's been talked about on our network
and many Bills content creators over but it truly is
one of the most memorable games you could argue in
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Bill's history, especially when you think about the fact that
it was the final home opener in well, not in
Orchard Park, I'm sorry, in the current stadium, and I
think that had a lot of gravity, and it's one
of those wins that even if you know, whatever the
season may become, whether it's a super Bowl victory, whether
it isn't, you'll always look back on it as one
of those just like Nexus events, especially with the fact
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that a lot of history in that stadium, good and bad.
You just kind of ring off the final year with
such a monumental win against a really good team. And
there were a lot of highs. There were a lot
of lows, definitely significant lows with the running defense, and
you could argue just lows with some offensive lows in
the first half, but the team did find a way
to come back. Josh Allen just turned on a different
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gear and went nuclear. And there was a lot of
positives to take away from that I can share, but Aaron,
I want to turn it back to you.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Positives and negatives.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Your biggest takeaways from this past matchup against the Ravens
that really stood out to you, the ones that you
feel like you need to share.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah, well, first of all, I think you nailed it.
As a fan, this is definitely what I'll remember and
as somebody that covers this team and does postgame shows.
I've been at this for I don't know, eight years now,
nine years, this will be one of the ones I
remember the most of having to get on and celebrate
that game and kind of talk through it with Bills fans.
I'll won't why to you, Joe, Like this one's a
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weird one. And we just had Connor Rogers on our
show this week previewing the Jets game, and the Jets
were kind of in the opposite boat of like questioning
how they lost that game because everything said they should
have won that game, right, Like, if you're a Jets fan,
you feel like, man, how do we let that one
slip away? Where I was the opposite. I did a
postgame show, went through every drive, rewatched it the next day,
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in all twenty two and I still am not totally
sure how the Buffalo Bills won that game, right, Like,
they weren't the better.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Team on the day.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
They made the big plays when they needed to make
the big plays, and they were almost perfect in situations
where you needed perfection multiple times you need everything to
work almost perfect.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
And even in the plays they didn't execute perfectly, the
luck felt their way.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
And yes, so it was a little bit of destiny,
which I'm not going to take that away from a team.
We've seen so many countless great teams and great runs
have the ball have to bounce their way a time
or two. So sometimes you need that luck to kind
of follow you throughout the season. Hopefully that's a an
omen of things to come this year where the ball
sort of just bounces the Bills way when they need
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it to. It would be nice to turn that luck
on in January. But that's my first, you know, fan
instinct is I'm trying to take that as a good
omen for the Bills this year that when they needed
the most, the luck will bounce their way or the
turnover will come.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
But I would be overly homer and overly.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Biased if I wouldn't say there's real concerns baked into
that game and that Sean mcturmoy would probably say, we're
resulting in kind of scheming going past some of those
because we're still high on the victory that game. And
when you do have Josh Allen, you feel like you
know that hides so many blemishes that even if the
defense continues to struggle at times, God, if Josh can
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come back from fifteen points in six minutes, like what
can't he do. You know, all we got to do
is put on the cave and anything is possible. And
so I think it puts the fan base in a
weird spot. You're going into this week. I thought you
brought up a good point of and I think Ed
Oliver spoke on it in his press conference. Although we
can talk about Ed in a second, but of the
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defense getting that second chance here this week. And I
think that's the biggest thing that I'm taken away from
past week is the people that were the most concerned
about the defense the defense might be who they think
they were. You know, the loudest critics on the internet
who were like, the safety is some of the worst
safety in the league, and these positions.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Are huge worries.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
They all looked super right on Week one, and now
what we have to determine is is that just a
mix of Hey, they played maybe the best offense in football,
definitely the most dynamic in terms of what they present
to a defense in terms of scheming. I thought Eric
did a nice job of showing The Bills did come
up with some answers as the game went on, but
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it was a constant game of cat and mouse between
Monkin and Babbage and sometimes Monkan had the upper hand
and he's going to do that to you. And it
was really fifty five minutes of the game, it felt
like they had the upper hand, but it was it
just that you're playing the Ravens. You're playing in week one.
Things are taking a little bit longer. I'm not sure.
There were some things in that tape that I don't
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know that I can chalk up to a week one stuff.
Linebackers look pretty slow to me, Joe safeties were taking
bad angles. A lot of that stuff was you know,
I need to see here in the next couple of weeks.
I can be patient allow this to develop. I need
to see positive development here coming over the next couple
of weeks, though it can't continue to look like it did.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, I completely agree with you.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I think that there the defensive Week one performance, to
just put it bluntly, was bad. I don't think you
could say anything other They surrendered forty points and it
took the will of the MVP to literally carry I
don't want to carry the team on his back, but.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I means made the stops they needed to in the
spots that it needs.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I don't want to sound like a homer for the defense.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
And I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I do agree with that, but it's it's almost like
climbing out of the hole you put yourself in, which
to me is like you did redeem yourself with the
late turnover on Derek Henry that put you right back
in the game, but you were in that spot because
you surrendered so many explosive plays. And I think that
you know, it took just an absolutely cerebral game from
Josh Allen literally in the most unprecedented turf because we
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saw it.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
They're the first team ever to win a game in regulation.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
When they're down by fifteen.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
They are the first team ever. He's the first quarterback
ever there in the down by fifteen in the final
six minutes of the game.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I believe, yeah, And I think that I just hope
is oh going.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I hope that doesn't put any type of like complacency
on this team in games where it's like we can
afford to maybe not show up. I don't think it will, Yeah,
but I do think they're humans, and you start to
lean into it's like, well we have Josh, so like,
no matter how bad, it's getting Josh opulus out of
this and you saw it on display.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, which is the exact opposite of what really this
organization has tried to implement over the past couple of
years when you look at how they've attacked the roster,
and I think that's a big point to be made,
because when you have Josh Allen, it can mass blemishes.
But I don't think the team, at least the organization
when it comes to roster construction, has ever been complacent
in having Josh Allen as much as execution of what
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they've attempted to do hasn't always been spotless.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
And that's any team in the league.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But going into your points about the game, starting with
the negative, really the defense, I think that there are
a few things that can be true. And I said
this on Twitter and I'll say it here. It's week one.
Week one. Many people call it a liar, and I
do agree with that to some extent. Week one is
ugly your team. The chemistry, even with guys that are returning,
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isn't always there, and going up against what I call
a Rubik's cube that you have to solve in real
time with a gun to your head.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
The Baltimore Ravens offense.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Is just an insanely difficult task for any team with
new blood on their defensive line, with question marks about
their secondary, with rookies starting in key positions. And I
think that even the best defense in the league going
out there against the Baltimore Ravens would have issues dealing
with runfits and Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson in the
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RPO and the playfaking that they can pull off to
such a fine degree that no matter how good your
players are, no matter how much athleticism you have in
your front seven or your secondary, they're going to win.
They're going to have their moments where they're successful. That's
just the nature of the Ravens. You have to live
and die with the fact that they're a formidable foe.
They get paid to and that's what it is. So
I can understand that. But Week one does not absolve
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foundational issues with your defense. And I think what you're
seeing from this Buffalo Bills rush rushing defense, I should.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Say, is more of the same issues.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's just the ability for offenses that have, you know,
whether it's the size in their trenches or whether it's
just the technique in their trenches to blow these guys
off the line and create really good rushing lanes for
their running backs, and in this case, Baltimore did that
really well with Henry. And it's also the fact that
because things are so dirty up front, it makes it
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just all the more difficult for your deever players such
as Cole Bishop to really take the proper appropriate angles
to make a clean play and oftentimes are put in
conflict against a guy like Derek Henry where you're just
you can't expect someone one on one to win that cleanly.
It's Derek Henry, He's extremely good at it. I also
think another part of it was again Derek Henry just
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being himself, because there were moments arin where I watched
this really up close, as close as possible, the defensive
line in certain moments not totally get blown off the ball.
There's a rep I saw where Dion Walker actually wins
shit and gets a hand on Henry. But Henry is
just impossible to bring down when you're playing at him
from his side and not in front of him where
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you can wrap your full body and it doesn't even
slow him down. And I just think that there's also
that part of it where you do have to tip
your cap to the running back in the backfield. Who
when you manipulate this offense the way you can if
you're Todd Monkin, he's eating right off that plate and
he's been as successful as ever with them. So it's
a three headed problem because it's weak. One, you're playing
a juggernaut offense. But I do think there are parts
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of this defense that are concerning, and I don't think
when we get.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Into the Jets preview we could talk about it more.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I don't think this next opponent makes it any easier
on you in any way, shape or form, maybe just
for having not the same personnel. But I think the
way they run and who's there is still good enough
to be a threat. But the positives of it that
I can walk away from. I do think that the
pass rush potential for this team is very high after
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watching this game. Now, they didn't walk away from this
game with ten sacks, but I think the different type
fronts that they showed Baltimore, as well as some of
the wins you saw from guys like Joey Bosa and
from that Oliver you know, God Willing.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
In the next couple weeks we'll get to that too.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I think that Ryan Nielsen being on this team, something
that I have been a huge fan of since it happened,
is going to make a very positive impact on this
team's ability to rush the passer. I just hope that
they can close because again you saw another moment where
they got there and just got burned on a huge
third down play. But I think the potential for the
pass rush to improve from last year is very much
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visible when you watch this game back. Even if they
got punched in the mouth on a few run reps,
I still think that that penetrative nature of the Buffalo
Bills is there and can be successful. So I did
walk away feeling good about that. And then offensively, I
like their skill group, Aaron I just I really like
the receiving core right now. I like what we saw
from Keon Coleman. It wasn't a fully clean game, but
he came through in very clutch moments and thought had
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some really nice wins. I like what I saw from
Josh Palmer when it came to individual separation. Khalil Shakir
was very good and Dalton and Kaid I thought had
a very nice game, a game that he needed to
have after last season's kind of questioned Mark with the
injuries and the rapport with Josh.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
It wasn't trailblazing, it wasn't world beating.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But it was good and it made me feel good
about the player going into Week two. And I think
that the offense I really don't have that much concern over.
It really is just a matter of Joe Brady's game
feel being on point when you play really tough competition,
and the second half of that game, when they were,
you know, everyone thought were down and out, they came
through with I would say a multitude of explosive plays
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that ultimately led them to getting right back into that
game and being able to come back. And I feel
good about the fact that they prove that early and
even if the Ravens defense, you know, wasn't settled in yet,
and defenses can get much tougher down the stretch. I
think it just left me with this impression that this
Bill's offense, unlike last year at times where I thought
man like not being able to beat man coverage consistently
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is really going to burn them when they face like
stricter defenses. I think now I feel better about them
against man cover, but also in late game situations where
you just need someone to get a bucket. I think
they can do it, and that's just basing it off
of week one. But those are really all the takeaways
I have from this game. Aaron, anything you want to
add before we close the book on Baltimore Ravens week Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Mean one of the points you made about it is
Baltimore and is week one, and I agree those are
like sat points I'm making, But at the same time,
like I am having a tough time wrapping my head
around again it's Baltimore. Yes, I expect them to score
and move the ball up and down the field, But
there was a point, dude, where it was going to
be Derrick Henry having a career day after a career
like he's had, like he was having a career day
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through the first half, Zave Flowers has a career day,
Like you can't be the doormat that allows for that
type of performance. I feel like on the defense, Sorry,
hold on one second.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Sorry I had a cough there. My sinuses are terrible.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I was telling Joe going into this, but yeah, that's
the thing that I think is most frustrating to me,
is like, I don't mind if the defense comes down
and has a bad performance or a struggling performance or
back and forth performance or doesn't carry the team, but
having performances where it's like, oh my god, we can't
stop this. This is brutal at every level of the defense.
That to me is where it becomes unacceptable. And then
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on the offensive side, I didn't really get to talk much.
And your point too, I think there's not much to say.
It was pretty much as expected. Offensive line looked good,
Josh looked amazing. Wide receivers look pretty good. But most importantly,
I think Kem Coleman showed that while he's not my
favorite type of receiver and I don't even know that
he's the necessarily like type I wanted for this offense, Yeah,
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he continues to show that Josh Allen trusts them won
Josh is willing to throw on the ball two and three,
And probably most importantly is he's like always making plays
and he's always around the ball, Like him getting that
tipped catch and being there is a lucky play. But
you also put yourself in position to like be around
the ball in the scramble drill and get yourself open
and be there to make a plan. Sometimes that's what
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it takes in the NFL, and he's showing me. I
think that he is probably primed to hit the role
that I thought Josh Palmer was gonna be this year.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And I think that.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Maybe I was a little higher on Palmer, and I
should have given my you know, hype to Keon and
my Keon hype to Palmer, which is both okay. I
think that's both productive type oide receivers. But I think
Palmer is or Coleman is turning into that guy for
Josh Allen who can.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Just be a guy.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
And I think we'll have to see it a little
bit here again this week of some really good corner
competition that you might not get a ton of separation
on anyway, but I trust actually physically a guy like
Cam Coleman can win in a lot of those situations.
And then Kinkaid the statu sheet doesn't look fantastic, but honestly,
I'm maybe even a little bit more excited. I think
Coleman's stat sheet looked better in the box score looked better,
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but what I saw out of Kincaid gave me more
hope for the potential rise of what we all want
as a fan base to see in Kinkaid. I think
he looked fast. I think he looked aggressive. I think
he looked willing to block, which was a really big
thing that we wanted to see from this year. Immediately
in Week one, he checked a lot of the boxes
for me of things I wanted to see from him,
And maybe most importantly, we saw a connection with him
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and Josh Allen on multiple big time throws down the
field where it connected, and I think that was really
the driving force behind the optics about Dalton Kincaid this
offseason and that maybe he's a bust and like again,
the statistics aren't that great. I was arguing all off
season Joe that I think if you look back at
some of the tape and if Josh Allen hits on
three or four some of those deep boss, the entire
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conversation about Dalk and kid, it's a really different conversation.
And I think you saw here early Week one really
positive signs that dude. That touchdown was an incredible throwing
catch and for him to come down with that thing
the one before half to get the field goal, huge
clutch play, getting into space running across the field, and
I'll tell you what another guy that didn't get a
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ton of statistics in the box score, but when he
did touch the ball looked good and fast.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And ready to go.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Dawson Knox I thought looked really good as well, and
you get the big catch from Hawes.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Like a lot of things to be positive on the offense.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
But I think the two most important ones going into
this season were Coleman and Kincaid, And hopefully week one
isn't a liar for us because they both lived up
to at least portions of the hype that they've been
given going into this year.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You guys see that Jackson Hawes catch. You guys see
Killdozer and the clutch man.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
I mean, Josh Allen didn't give him a chance, a
lot of choice. I think that ball was stuck in
his shoulder pads and like just jammed in there and
Hawes had no choice.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
But they catch that.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
There's a chest X ray post game of football just
in Asternham.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
But no, I think you make great points.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
And the thing I'll say about Dalton Kincaid before I
go back to your key on Coleman point, I've been
on the record on this show of saying I had
my concerns, but I did say too, like you alluded to,
a lot of my concerns from Kincaid were individual for
his performance, but also his rapport with Josh Allen, mainly
a Josh problem of not maybe it seemed it was weird,
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and it was weird, especially when you saw how substantially
like worse Kincaid's down the field metrics more than other
tight ends in the league, and also because of the
fact that, again maybe it was because he was injured,
but he had such a wide alignment most of the time.
It was like, these opportunities are coming to you in
limited sample sizes and you're not coming through. But it's
also because Josh Allen's overthrowing you or underthrowing you. Like
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it's so muddy that it made the evaluation of Dalton
Kincaid like an asterisk whenever you're like, I'm concerned about him,
because the truth was, there was always this possibility and
it's still jury is still out there.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Sure, sure that.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Always this possibility that like a season where he really
comes alive can happen if Josh just tweaks a few
things and to get that start, especially when you see
him real in a not easy pass to catch that
was a bullet, like an absolute seed from Allen that
he puts right int Shess. It's funny, AQ, because I
watched the highlights of Josh Allen's first ever start or
not start, first ever game when he played Baltimore in Baltimore,
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and I distinctly remembered his I think it was third
and goal.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
He throws a seed.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Over the middle to Kelvin Benjamin and it goes right
in a Benjamin and just pops out the back like yeah,
not through him obviously, but through his arms. And you're
kind of just like, damn, Like back in the day
when we watched that, we're hoping for someone that could
just consistently come through in that moment. And seeing King
ka do it in Game one was really awesome because
like that made me feel really confident in what you're
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going to do in the red zone when you have
tight windows and you need a guy to come through
and make a clutch catch. And I think King Kaid's
always been known to have his hands, and it just
proved it even more there. So I was very happy
to see that, and I'm very happy.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Willingness to block is going to be huge for his development.
I know people don't find that sexy. But if you
don't have that, man, it's going to be tough to
get on the field on this team.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, blocking is sexy, and I thought Kink did what
a lot better And you could argue maybe he was
working through something and that's why the blocking was poor
at times.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Worried about his blocking.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Good blocker, he just needs to be willing.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
That's might really been My conversation with him is like,
I want to see you getting in there. It doesn't
have to be good, but you got to at least
get a.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Happy because you're a good blocker.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I mean, you could say Knox is a better blocker,
but you're a good blocker. Just got drafted and he
is blocking.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
His Honestly, I thought the wide receivers, you look at
that Cook play where Cook goes for whatever it was
fifty one yards or something like that. You look at
the way the wide receivers Palmer and Coleman were blocking downfield.
They spring that there's nobody to even close the Cook, Like,
yeah he's fast, yes he's explosive, but he's got nothing
about open space out there. So all positive to things
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to see. There was definitely some negative on the offense,
but we don't need to take time covering all that.
I think Josh covered up those plumishes enough.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, And I think the negatives were kind of over
exaggerated a little bit in the first half. I thought
like some of the things people were complaining about, like
the second and short run and then the third short run,
Like I was okay with just trying to get your
yard there, especially in a game where you're playing Baltimore
and trying to keep them off the field, so time
of possession matters, limiting opportunity. I just don't think they worked.
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I was annoyed with the screen call on third and long.
I just I personally hate those calls. I just feel
like you're starting yourself at a disadvantage. Even if you
think you have the numbers, it doesn't mean you're gonna
win it, and I don't like taking that risk. But
it's also, again you're respecting Baltimore's defense and what they
could bring. That's part of the game plan. And then
the second half it rendered it moot because they put
up forty points. So like, I can't sit here and
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critique it.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Too too much.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
As much as little things I like to clean up
and of course, play action.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I'd like to see that be a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, more, But that's a whole separate rat But yeah,
I think we've covered really everything from this game, and
it was again just to put a bow on it
and awesome Bills win. It was an ugly game, but
you get what I think is probably the greatest luxury,
which is a victory Monday, where you get to see everything.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You screwed up on and not just like screwed up
in a game where you.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Won by ten or fifteen points that game like you
probably shouldn't have won it. Your percentage was in single digits,
it was actually under one at a point, and you
still go to the tape and get to see all
of that, but relish in a win knowing that you
can improve on these things, while also having the opportunity
to go to and know when you go to New
Jersey net Life Stadium to take on the New York
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Football Jets at that I don't think is a pushover
by any stretch of the imagination. I think, if you
want to say anything about them as a whole, I
don't think they have their defensive identity yet, but I
think that will come and I don't know when that
will happen, but I don't think it'll take long with
a good coach like Aaron Glenn and offensively, Aaron, I
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mean that rushing attack. I know people are going to
think it's not Baltimore, so it's going to be easy.
But Briestall on those outside runs is as lethal as
he's ever been. In my personal opinion, I think he
is an explosive play threat. I think the tackles on
this Jets offensive line are really really good, and why
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shouldn't they be. Each of them are back to back
first round picks with really good athleticism and power and strength,
and the first step for these guys is really explosive.
And this is a team that is going to try
and run wide and stretch you out.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And they can do it.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And couple that with a guy like Justin Fields, who, yes,
we can have critiques about, you know, on field processing,
which I think is a valid critique of his game,
but this is a system now way more tailored in
my opinion, to his game to benefit him where those
blemishes are covered up because of a formidable rushing attack.
So I'm going to turn it back to you eron
and I I would like to start on offense. Just
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give me your impression of this Jets team and the
things you're watching out for that you think are in
the bills favor and something that you worry about for them.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
First, I want to say, Uh, I'm super intrigued by
Justin Fields in the New York.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Jets and what it can be. I'm sort of trying.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
To I one, I hate comps, but something that keeps
kind of coming into my brain is those Tyrod Taylor
years of the Bills under McDermott, where, like, I think
this is an offense where if he's playing efficient like
we saw week one, they can put up thirty. If
he's playing against a defense that's causing him to be
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more of a decision making passer, I think that they
could be a team that struggles to score twenty points.
Uh in certain games. The game script's is gonna be
very dependent for them.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
There's a path to the Jets winning I think more
games than people think that they can win.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
But they're gonna need to get hot, They're.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Gonna need a rally, They're gonna need Fields to play
similar not exactly how he played Week one, but similar
in an efficient manner where you know, the run game
is working and he is just taking what the defense
is giving him and maybe connecting on some of those
explosives that you know he can really stretch the field deep.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
But I think the problem for the Jets.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Right now is this is an incomplete roster, right This
is a roster that has plenty of pretty glaring holes,
some really fun high end talent. I love Garre Wilson's
one of my favorite players in the league. To why
like I hate Ohio State, but once they like, I'm
watching Terry McLaurin right now, Thursday night football. I can't
get enough right house day receivers are fantastic, But dude,
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he's got nothing else in that room. Like it's almost
a disservice what they've done to Garrett to put him
in a room with you know, the Bills want to
talk about that everybody eats and not having you know,
they Jets have a true number one, but then they
have like three number fours or there's nothing else behind him,
and you got Rucker, who again is a guy I
liked in the draft process, but he's not some special
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tight end that's gonna be a guy the game plan
for So if you're a defensive coordinator, you're coming into
this like I'm not saying it's simple, because it's not.
And they definitely present some problems for the Bills that
you know, at least on paper, have been historically problems.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
For the Bills, right like.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
A quarterback that can you know, be that threat in
the run pass game and the Red Reid option game
that can be a threat. Although the Bills have done
a decent job of keeping Lamar in the pocket. But
this is a team that's got one wide receiver. I
think that they're a team that it probably plays into
the Bills interest to kind of play some of that
zone disguise his looks, make Justin fields think pre post
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snap here for a minute, get him confusing some zone looks,
probably don't play a lot of man and allow him
to take some of those deep shots and turn your
back to Justin fields As a runner, I think you
can kind of keep him in. It's going to be
The big thing is can this team show up physically?
Like you said, I really do like their tackles on
both sides. Can the Bills show up physically and match
that wide run game. Can the linebackers get to their spots.
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Can they look a little faster than they did a
week ago?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
You know?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Can the safeties come play from downhill, play from depth,
and come up and make the tackles you need to.
Because we've seen bres Hall, even when the Jets have
been at their worst here like during the Rogers years,
and that offense is bad, We've seen Breeze Hall, even
behind bad offensive lines, do work to the Buffalo Bills.
I think he's got an.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Improved offensive line.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
But kind of my last comment on that offense and
that I think one their offense sort of plays in
the Bills hands on what Babbitte and McDermot could do
zone wise pre and post snap to justin fields when
it is like known passing downs. But I also think
that it kind of plays in the Bill's hands differently
than the Ravens in that as good as those tackles are,
I like the way the Bill's edge players match up
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against them, especially in the run game. I think Greg
Oruso is one of the best run defenders in the league.
I think Joey Bosa is a really good solid run
defender with size. Obviously, he looked kind of bad in
space against Lamar Jackson. But Lamar Jackson makes everybody look
kind of silly in space, so the edge players aren't
my concern. My concern is how I saw the linebackers
look week one and them looking a little bit slow
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and knock into those spots. Terren Johnson showed up this
week with an injury. Maybe we see more Dorian Williams
on some of these early downs where you know that
they're going to try to establish the run.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Maybe we can use this week to get a little
bit more Dorin Williams involved.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
There's now these rumors about Ed Oliver and his potential injury,
obviously him showing up on the injury part after having
career game a week ago. But honestly, man, I don't
know if I'm trying to cope here too much, but
this might actually be an okay week to ride out.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
The severity of an at Oliver injury or how many
weeks that would extend into, but for this week ands
the Jets, I don't even know that it hurts you
because I think his style of play might actually be
more of a negative against the Jets, like he's not
always the most consistent standing in his run gaps and
stuff like he's pursuing, he's over aggressive a little bit
in the pocket.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Things like that.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
You might want to kind of be a little bit
more conservative with these rush lanes and stuff and just
kind of try to hold them to situations where they're
in a third and long where you've got to make
justin fields beat you, and you can confuse in pre
and post snap. I think that's the plan to win.
But I don't want Bills fans to be shocked if
they come out and, you know, put together a really
nice scripted drive where they run right down the Bill's
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throats and the Bills aren't tackling them, and the Jets
score early and it takes the Bills a half to
really get this kind of figured out and settle into
a game like this.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, it wouldn't shock me at all.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I mean, when you talk about the I guess mismatches
that the Jets can present to you, even though they
don't have the deepest wide receiver room, just being able
to get justin fields to roll out into space and
have a separator like Garret Wilson over the middle of
the field, that's something that I think could be problematic
no matter what part of the game it is, but
especially in the opening drive. But yeah, I think everything
you said is valid, and I do think that. I'm
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I have a lot of respect for the Jets team
for what they were able to do to Pittsburgh last week. However,
I also think, like in the same vein of week
one being a liar, that Pittsburgh defense is going to
be quite good, and I don't think they geled yet
because it was like a very rough game for them
when it came to run defense and even tackling at points.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I think that for the.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Buffalo Bills, to me, it's all about just as predictable
as this is going to sound, being able to shed
especially on those outside runs properly, and being able to
keep things clean for your second level. I know that
that is like a beaten point, but really that's to
me the game. And I say that because I think
when we're talking about this matchup and what Breese Hall
is and what Breest Hall has been able to do
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through the Bills in the past, it's always been that
just explosive second second gear he can turn on once
he gets through the line, and I feel like the
Buffalo bills have just struggled mightily when the numbers are
fewer and you have a back with full acceleration, ballented
back with full acceleration, with taking proper angles and being
able to wrap them up. And this was a problem
a couple of years ago, and I think it's a
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potential problem even now. I really got to see that
that defensive line right from the jump be able to
shed accordingly, especially if they're going outside, keep things clean,
and be able to give space for Milano and Bernard
or Dorian Williams, even if they go in any four
to three to just recognize an attack. As I'll tell
you this, if they can, there's not a doubt in
my mind that our linebackers could take over the game,
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like not a doubt in my mind. They are the
types that I feel when you have proper trench play,
they are just as opportunistic, as violent, as good at
playing the ball as really any linebacker group in the league.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I wouldn't say the best, but I'd say one of
the best.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I think you just got to help them help you,
and it's really coming down to being able to just
not get blown off the ball and create disruption up front.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
But where I'm really excited.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
To see it is even with Ed Oliver's potential injury,
which I'm going to be real, I don't personally think
he's gonna play. I mean, just hearing the fact that
he was on a boot and scooter does not bode
well for a like three or four day turnaround. I
could be totally wrong, but I don't like that, don't
I would? Yeah, I don't like those odds. I'm I
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think it's a good opportunity for TJ. Sanders because I
think what you're gonna have is him slide into that
role immediately next to day Kwon Jones, and I think
what you're gonna get is maybe more favorable opportunity for
him where if they don't double up both interior guys
and he has a single matchup, this is where I
think he wins very quickly as a rookie, because I
know there's a lot of his game that needs to
be cleaned up. You know, his anchor, his discipline in
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the gap. But I think if you're talking of field
penetrative nature of him specifically and you don't have that
double team, I think, right then and there, that's a
rep one for TJ. Sanders potentially if you have them
aligned to gainst someone like Simpson or Titman wherever you
decide to put him. So I would really like to
see that, and I think that's possible. But I think
just my big key for this defense facing that Jets offense,
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just from like individual play and position, a group is
going to boil down to that defense of line just
being able to get off their blocks and just keep
things clean for the second level. And as far as
Bobby Babbage, I mean, I when I watched that Ravens game,
I loved how much he was messing with the front.
I mean when we saw, as Eric pointed out earlier
this week, and many people point out the six to
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one that they were showing, I saw them bring their
linebackers down.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I saw some odd fronts. It was. It was really
fun to see them playing.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Cold bishop Blitz from twenty five yards back like I did.
Very exotic, very exotic.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
That see, exotic does not mean good.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I usually use it to to, you know, kind of
embody good, but not all exotic things are good.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I don't know what the hell happened with that, but
never did.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Eric talked about it.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
It was like a Ravens got the line too quick,
and the Bill just kind of got caught what they
want to do pre post nap didn't have a chance to.
And yeah, I'm sure they put in some rules of like, hey, guys,
when this happens.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Let's panic just send it. It's oh my god, never
do that again. But I, oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I like the creativity with the fronts, and I think
that could also help this run defense. Again, Like, I
think this Jets offensive line is young but very talented,
and I think they're going to pose problems when it
comes to that physicality that we fear for the guys
that might have Raams.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Could stay healthy for them. I know he's such a
good player.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
He is a good player who unfortunately has made a glass.
But I still even like I like Joe Timan a lot.
I liked him a lot in the draft process. I
wanted the Bills to get him and Simpson I don't
think is a pushover, and I feel like you're just
pairing that again with really deep drops for justin fields
and rollouts for justin fields. And the one thing that
I think we haven't talked about is the fact that
this offensive coordinator for the Jets stems from that Ben
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Johnson Lions type and that Sean mcvatrie where you're talking
about just a shit ton of motion and misdirection and
how that can the Bills fare against it. Which last year,
yes they won that Lions game, and yes they were
ahead for a majority of that actually the entire game,
I believe, but they still had their problems with just
getting put out of space and giving up a lot
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of yards on the field, and I just did not
like seeing it, especially when it came to the Rams.
I'm not saying that this team has that same offensive potency,
but I do think that those types of offensive coordinators
this early in the season can give this defense trouble,
especially if you're concerned about the safeties and their communication
and being in the right position and taking the right
angles if it comes to a run play, especially with
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a guy like Breise Hall.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I do worry about that a little bit, but I
think that.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Can be quelled a bit quickly just seeing you know, again,
I think there's going to be an improvement overall from
Bobby Babbage and how he calls this game, especially if
this team can get pressure up front, which I think
they will. I think that's going to thwart a lot
of the kind of you want to call it window
dressing that they're going to do pre to post snap
and ultimately play in your hand. So those are really
my biggest offensive things to look out for, Aaron, Do
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you have anything else?
Speaker 4 (38:49):
No, I think that's pretty much it for me on
the offensive of well, I'm not super worried. I think,
like I said, I think this is an incomplete roster
on the other side of the ball, and so I
think they lack. I don't think they're toothless like maybe
some of the other teams that I see in the
AFC East right now. I actually said this week with
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Connor Rogers on that I think the Jets could be
a sneaky like in the Hunt wild card team. Like
I said, I'm comparing this team very much to that
first year of Sean McDermott, where you know the defense
might lack a little bit, and in the back end
of that defense, but if that pass rush can get going,
like they can just win enough games to kind of
surprise them teams.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
But ultimately these are the kind of games the Bills
just have to do handle business.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
I think the roster is better at every position across
the board, and I think that's going to be true
here when we talk about the other side of the
football as.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Well, and you've got to just go out and show it.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Like there's every NFL team that we cover this year,
Joe is going to have some path to beating them,
and the Bills are going to have to do something.
But I think you know, you said at the top
of this that you don't think this is some pushover team,
and I agree they're not a pushover. But I think
on both sides of the ball, these teams are on
different spectrums of the NFL right now.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I would argue for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I mean, I'm not as optimistic about who as ironic
as it says because he played for the Bills for
multiple years, but who is.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Next to Quinnon Williams on the interior. But I do like.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
The edge rushers for the Jets as far as pure
pass rush threats. But what I think counters them is
literally just Josh Allen's pocket invasion, which is just it
might be the single best in the league, if it's
not already determined that by everybody. He is just so
good at evating pressure to a point where I like
my fear for pass rushers on other teams has been quelled.
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Not saying that you shouldn't respect them, not saying that
you shouldn't like account for them in your game plan
or if you're a fan, like look out for them.
But Josh just makes it work and just somehow is
always able to slip through to a point where really,
even the young, hungry, super talented guys, I feel like
that's not something that I'm going to be as pressed
over unless they're just consistently destroying your tackles. But Dion
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Dawkinson spent Brown have just given you every reason to
assume that they can hang in the game with the
best guys I've seen Dean Dawkins put people who are
mentally talented in the dirt. I think Spencer Brown has
come into his own over the past couple of seasons.
So as much as I have infinite respect for Will McDonald,
who I think is emerging as one of the better
young pass rushers in the NFL, I think he's tremendously talented.
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And Jermaine Johnson is just someone I've always liked since
the judge drafted him, I do think that Allen's individual
pocket evasion is going to farewell, But we got to
talk about really, like I think where the Bills can
just take over this game is opposite Sauce Gardner. I think,
like sauce Gardner, we know how good he is and
the talent he possesses at his position, and how much
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issue he has given Bills receivers in the past. But
what I am wondering, Aaron, and I will flip this
back to you and I want to give you the
same prompt as before for defense, but this specific question
to start Opposite Sauce Gardner, how do you see it
playing out as far as which receiver you think benefits
from not dealing with sauce Gardner covering them? I guess
I want to say, like, do you think Sauce is
gonna maybe shade Keon Coleman? Is he gonna shadow Josh Palmer?
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Like how do you see that shaking out? And if
it's either one of those two, what do you expect
to happen for the rest of the secondary faring against
this receiving corps.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
I don't actually think it makes much sense for the
Jets to shade the Bills.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I don't think the Bills have that guy.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
I think that makes sense for them when they're in
a situation where they're going up and you know, Bills
fans will probably kill me, But the Bills don't have
that number one where I really feel like you need
Keon covered by Sauce, Like, Keon's not going to generate
a ton of that separation in man coverage.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Like we even saw a lot of his routes.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
There's a lot of conversation about what was the separation
that Keon gained versus the separation that was created by
just the zone or the route that he ran, right, Like,
that's the conversation about Keon today. I think he can
win any physical matchup, whether it's Sauce, Garden or whoever's
out on him. I think the biggest threat to the
Jets is Kaloshakir when and if healthy. I don't think
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they have anyone that can guard him. You're not gonna
put Sauce. Sauce isn't going to guard him. I think
he's still the Bill's most dynamic wide receiving threat, and
I think that he's going to have a field day
of going up against this Jets secondary.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I think that's probably the talking.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
Point that was missed the most this week is I
do like that Bill's skill set core, but the Ravens
like they might have had some problems late in this game. Defensively,
that's a really good defensive backfield like the Jets what
they have. And you mentioned the opposite of sauce Gardner here,
but I'll take it to miss step further attacking deep
on these safeties, Like I think this is a pretty
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poor safety room, similar to what people probably viewed the
Bills as. And it's funny because I remember last year
everybody wanted to replace DeMar Hamlin with Andre Cisco, so
tape I saw did not look like an improvement. People
were certain to mean that Cisco would be I think
this is maybe even worse than that Tomorrow Hamlin level
of play right now you're seeing out of Adams and Cisco.
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I think Brandon Stevens you mentioned across from Sauce Gardner
is just a ticking time bomb as to when that
he's going to be out in favor of Thomas the rookie.
He's just not a guy that plays a style of
defense that they want to play. And I think that's
going to probably be the most interesting thing I'm looking
to watch here on this one, Joe Is I think
they want to play man defense. I think they've got
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the personnel to rush the passer and play some man
coverage and get after you. But I don't think that
Josh Allen's the kind of quarterback you want to play
those games with, especially with this secondary. I don't think
you you know, to the point you made about him
being able to extend plays, there's nothing worse for a
defense than a guy that can extend plays and you
playing an aggressive style defense that has your back turn
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to him all day long. I think that that just
creates a terrible thing for the Jets. So I won't
be shocked if we see Glenn and the Jets come
out and play more zone than they play pretty much
the rest of the year. Because it's Josh Allen, and
that's where he's gotten to is he is, you know,
in that realm of Mahomes and Lamar and some of
these guys that you're so concerned with their special skills
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and what they can do to a game that you
play completely outside of yourself. And before he even gets
on the field, he's dictating the terms of how you're
going to play the game.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yeah, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I mean, he's just at that point in his career
where he has the gravity to manipulate what a defensive
coordinator wants.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
He can't blitz Mahomes, right, Like that's the thing on Mahomes,
you can't blit them. So teams that are really aggressive
they don't even do it. And I think Josh is
getting that same way of like you just can't play
his receivers man to man in high percentages.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Which is nice to say, And I feel far more
confident in this receiving corps this season when it comes
to faring better against man coverage. I think Josh Palmer,
even a guy like Elijah Moore, Khalis Shakira across the field,
and even Keyon Coleman now to a better I don't
think he's all the way there yet. James Cook could
do it. Ty Johnson out of the backfield if you
want to use him as a receiver, which, by the way,
just side note that opening drive. I think it was
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the opening drive against Baltimore where they had twenty one
Dy had pony. I was like, hell yeah, Joe Brady
that I want more ponies this game.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
I just think it's such a fun wrinkle, especially with
the types of running backs Bills have. If you're using
Ty Johnson as the threat of like a pass catching
back and he just ends up blocking for Cook like
that is a cool little wrinkle and I would.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Love to see it.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
But what I will say is just pulling up the tendency.
In Week one, the Jets blitz the sixth highest in
the league. So I think that again, I completely agree
with you that Allen has the gravity. I don't know
if Aaron Glenn's going to back off, And to be
honest with you, I should have pulled up the numbers
from the Lions game last year to confirm that was a.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Totally different person out right.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
You had the best safety handem of course football lines, and.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
I do agree with that. I mean, I can't not
agree with it. It's the truth. But I think that
Aaron Glenn is a guy who has his formula, and
I do think he is going to try and bring
the pressure. But it's really just a matter of how
much is it six overall in the NFL? Or is
he gonna kind of tone it down to about a
fifteenth and really just try to manipulate the line pre
to post snap and try to get you to think
you're sending pressure and really just try to win with
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head games over actual execution. But all this to say,
if he does send the pressure, I think Josh Allen's
going to pick it apart and he just will just
avoid Sauce Gardener if you have to, which is a
totally fair thing to do if the rest of your
secondary can hold up.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
It's kind of like how uh shavers anytime deep ball
touched down. If they don't want to play a bunch
of man coverage on us, I might.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
I might put money on Jackson Halls this week.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Man.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I don't know. I just feel like he wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
I don't advise anyone.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Listen, there is he gonna do the Quinton Morris thing where.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
It just makes big place only that, but only that
and nothing else besides.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
The lot six of them, six of them to do it.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
But they come at like a huge time.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
It's never like a forgettable touchdown like that that man
came through in that Miami game in twenty twenty two
or twenty twenty twenty twenty two, like oh man, Okay. Anyways,
I think that that's going to be a big key
for me on offense. For the Buffalo Bills, if Ery
Glenn does decide to send pressure, I don't think it's
not going to work for them at all. I do
think it's going to force Josh to get out of
the pocket. But that's just the beauty of having him
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as your quarterback is even getting him out of the
pocket is not a win for you because when he
extends a play, I think he is debatably the best
quarterback in the NFL at doing or at executing off script.
But also I think the record he has with some
of the guys on this roster, specifically a guy like
Keon Coleman, is lethal for a team that can't wrap
him up because Keon Coleman's profile as a receiver, especially
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on the boundary, allows Josh to be I don't want
to say a little more like careless with the ball,
but he can put the ball in spots that just
you can't do this for other receivers.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
And I think that was proven in.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
The Baltimore game with that boundary throw where Keon went
up twenty feet in the air to make an unbelievable
grab and still have the body control to come back
in bounds with it. Like off script with that type
of receiver is something that I feel like is an
incredibly difficult thing to stop. And if that's happening on
a rep Rasauce Gardner is not manned man with him
and not covering him, I think that feeds right into
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the pulm of the Bill's hands. So while I do
think you want to win in structure, you want your
run game to take control. You don't want to give
them the luxury of getting their rushing attack any sort
of momentum, So you want to control clock and I
expect the Bills to attempt that. I think that really
it's gonna boil down at least from a coaching perspective
to what Aaron Glenn does with his defense as far
as pressure rate, and if he sends a ton of pressure,
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is Josh Allen just going to continue the trend of
picking pressure apart just exploiting some of the matchups. So man, yeah,
if he doesn't do that, then you ask yourself, Okay,
So if the Jets are consistently rushing for but just
showing pressure, how do we attack that? And even then,
I think there are just matchups you can exploit with
the separators on your team, like Palmer and Shakir Shakir
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in that second level, maybe able to get distanced against
their linebackers using decoys to take Zaus Gardner out of
the equation. To see if Brandon Stevens can hang with
your opposing receiver, whether it's Palmer or Coleman, I think
there's a lot to like. I also am very interested
to see how they defend the tight ends in this game,
because if Kincaid could separate, I think he's going to
build off of last year or last week's game, especially
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when you're talking about those sideline throws that I thin
I think just he has really nice body control and
hands there as well that I like z Josh target
him there consistently because I feel like that's just a
very difficult thing to defend when you talk about Kincaid's frame,
and again just the poise he has as a receiver,
and I think the Bills can exploit that in this game.
And I will turn it back to you any other
thoughts on the matchup on offense, and I think you
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think we didn't cover that you want to talk about.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
Yeah, no, I think ultimately I keep coming back to
there's so many holes on this Jets roster.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
I don't think that I will be shocked if they.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Come out and play a style that is too aggressive.
I think if they want to steal games like this
against a team like the Bills that has Super Bowl aspirations,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Maybe there's probably two schools of that.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
You can either stick to what you do and hope
that that works and hope that you create some of
that chaos and stuff like that, or you just kind
of hope to stick around. I think the path for
the Jets in a game like this is control the
clock right, control of the ground game, keep Josh Allen
all off the field, keep the ball out of his hands,
but then when the ball is in his hands, keep
him in front of you, right, like, don't get I know,
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you have these really good edge rushers, these young edge rushers,
but you got to keep containing. You can't allow him
to get out of structure to really beat you. I
think their safeties are so poor that the threat of
Josh Allen getting out of structure is even more vast
against a team like this, So you almost have to
get him. You almost want to take him, so he's
like throwing that first read and you're just wrapping and
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tackling and hoping to keep them within first down range
and try to force a pun. It's almost the Bill
style of defense, like force Josh to bend but don't break,
and hope that they make a mistake or hope that
they get a penalty that pushes them back, and hope
that your offense can have a similar performance to the
Sad last week, to trade shot for shot with the
Bills and that that Bill's defense shows up like they
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did last week.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
I think that's the only and limited path for the
Jets to stay in a game like this.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
But at the end of the day, I just don't
think they have the horses to run with a super
Bowl caliber team like the Bills.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
I definitely think when you look at the Jets roster,
there are a lot of question marks that make you
hesitant to say that they have like a like a
highly I want to be respectful when I say this
because I don't try to like talk crazy crazy on here,
but really, just like you could, I think it's fair
to say that you could expect the Bills to have
a better chance of winning this game, like a higher probability.
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I think the Jets are just a team in transition.
They have a new coaching staff and they still have
a lot of roster billing to do. But there are
really nice pieces that can keep them in a game,
and I think they're going to hang around. I just
think the limitations of their receiving corps are really their
achilles heel, especially if you get a team that can
shut their running game down. And I think it's to
a point where the Bills can sell out to shut
down their running game early and off you know, stack
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the box, send the blitz. I feel like you win
because you can either shut down Breeze Hall in the
backfield theyre breaking out in the backfield, or you could
fluster Justin Fields. And when it comes to off script,
off platform, you know ability while fields can move. I
think Lamar Jackson, the person who played a week before,
is a superior offscript playmaker. And I think that Justin
Fields can be pressured into making mistakes a bit more
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easily than Lamar Ken.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
I think Lamar has a lot more poise.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
So for that reason, I think that just sending the
hounds and being able to stack the box and show
that you're not going to let them run on you
is a recipe for success, especially when you look at
just again, the targets after Garrett Wilson, that receiving corps
just it's barren. And I'm not trying to be too disrespectful,
but it just doesn't have the same types of players
as Garrett Wilson, the same caliber of guys.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
I'm a big fan of Mason Taylor, the rookie.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
I think he is going to be quite a guy
for them, but I don't know if it's going to
be in Week two of the NFL season of his
rookie year. I think he might have some plays here
and there, but it feels like to me, it's Garrett
Wilson show, and really he's the.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
One manning it.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
And even in that Steelers game, it's not to say
he's the only one who called any passes, but he
was the primarycus.
Speaker 3 (53:49):
Yeah, he was their primary guy.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
And you get a good enough nickel corner like Tara Johnson,
assuming he plays, or.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
Whether it's a linebacker that can just hang with him
for a little bit.
Speaker 4 (53:57):
I think it bracket covered him constantly. If you're a
zone team like the Bills, just we're gonna keep We're
gonna keep two guys in zone on you all day long,
and you might get some, but we're gonna wrap you
up and tackle like we're not gonna let you break
us and force Josh Reynolds to have a career day.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
And if you get yourself into a third and long
where it's a passing down, you have every reason to
do it and it's probably gonna work out for you.
So for me, I feel pretty comfortable, at least with
the idea that they have a good chance to win
this game. But crazier things have happened, and I think
there are matchups. I don't give predictions, so I don't.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
Say, but there's six and a half point favorite on
the road. ESPN I think has sixty five to thirty
five matchup predictor there's if they lose this game, we've
got some big problems. The shows aren't gonna be fun,
the postgame show won't be fun. The next week's game
won't be fun unless it's like a weird wonky wonky.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
Loss of some kind. But this isn't a team. This
is a team.
Speaker 4 (54:58):
You should handle business. The East is very weak this year.
I actually think this might be the second best team
and the AFC when all the dust settles for the year.
But you're talking about a team. I think the second
best team in the AFC East will be an eight
win team, maybe fighting in the in the hunt at
the end of the year. So the b to prove
they're still the Kings. That's my sign, Kings of the East.
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We are they are. This is a great opportunity to
prove it. It's a great opportunity to put some of
the uh the optics and thoughts that we had from
the past week and the poor poor performance we saw
outside of the results. It's a good week to put
some of that to rest here and move forward on
the season.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
Go handle business man. This is New York. It's the Jets.
Come on like they're fun.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
This was a fun start to the season for them.
But the Bills can't make that ain't bigger than it is.
Put that back and it's it's place, and let them
know where they stand in this thing.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
And it boils down to the kind of philosophy I
have with watching the Bills and the Josh Allen tenure,
is that if you want to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
These are the teams you have to be and you
can't do it.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
And I think like the idea of a get right
game for the Bills defense, when you heard about Sean
mcdermy talking about how hard they were practicing, maybe even
so hard that they managed to injure at all, I
think that that speaks volumes to just how discussed it
they were by the defensive tape and really want to
improve it. And I think the fact that you're getting
what you could call like a tad bit more of
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a light version of what you just encountered with Baltimore,
not to the same degree of everything schematically, but rather
just like what their strengths are and what your weaknesses
seem to be. I think this is a great opportunity
for you to quell a lot of fan worry by
just again getting after this rushing attack, preventing it from
getting at a hand explosive, limiting damage, keeping them the
field goals instead of touchdowns or stalls, instead of any
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points scored at all. And you're gonna win people over
with this defense, which I think is one that I
won't say is you know, still retooling, but I still
think it's in a bit of a transitional phase when
you have all that youth there, so it's got time
it needs to gel. But this is a great opportunity.
And I just looked it up, Aaron, because I was
actually curious. So twenty twenty four the Bills played the line.
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I believe it was week fourteen. I just had to
look that up because I was so confused. The blitz
right for the Detroit Lions, and that week was sixty
two point five percent, which led the NFL. Now do
we think it'll be sixty two point five percent this week?
Probably not? But if this, if I have this right,
because I have to, it's hard for me to look
it up on the fly.
Speaker 4 (57:18):
Was that the Thanksgiving game where josh It digs oh
last year?
Speaker 2 (57:23):
Oh last year?
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, last year. So I'm pretty sure it was.
I'm pretty sure it was week fourteen? It maybe if
you can remember.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
That was a wonky game. The office got going second half, though,
didn't they that.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
The Detroit's Yeah, Detroit was down early in that game,
but they had They led the NFL that week in
blitz percentage. And I'm wondering if Aaron Glenn just tries
his hand if he just says, screw it, I want
to send pressure. I don't know, it's just I'm suspicious.
I'm just suspicious.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (57:55):
I said, That's one of the most interesting things I'm
gonna look at this week is like, does Josh Allen
change what they want to do or they can stick
to what we think they want to do, which is
to get aggressive, to blitz and plate man. I just
think that's a huge mistake against Josh Allen. You've got
to have some hubrists to think that you have an
incomplete roster and a roster with some real liabilities, and
that that's the path to go up against the best
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football player in the world right now. Bold strategy, Kid,
it's a bold strategy.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
Now I'm questioning it.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
I might have the week wrong, but it's so like
I said, when I look things up on the fly,
this happened.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
So either way, sure, I'm sure percentage. I don't remember
the game specifically, so.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
Yeah, either way, I think that that's going to be
the biggest focal point for me watching on offense, and
I think it's one the Bills can exploit.
Speaker 3 (58:42):
But ultimately, I'm excited for this game.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
I'm excited to see them come off this win and
have the chance to go to and O. I think
that they are a team that with their offensive firepower,
they can go toe to toe with any defense in
any team, and it's just another year of seeing what
they got and if they could finally get over that hump.
But it's games like this you got to win if
you want to do it. So I'm doing pretty good.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
AQ.
Speaker 4 (59:03):
Any final thoughts and yeah, no, and I think you're
you're gonna almost like end the Jets season in week
two too.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
Like going on into.
Speaker 4 (59:12):
Both AFC losses tough if you're one of those we
know it from twenty years of trying to being in
the hunt team and break a playoff drought. Going on
in two is not a great way to start your
probability of breaking a playoff drought, and so the Bills
have a chance to do something like that. I think
the AFC East this weekend is really interesting with obviously
the Patriots and.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
Dolphins playing each other.
Speaker 4 (59:32):
I think that Dolphins is a super combustible situation that
could blow up here before the season even starts, and
the Patriots look more toothless than I thought, so this
could be a nice easy breeze to the AFC East
and this week two could show maybe the world just
like how big of a separation there is between the
Bills and the rest of the AFC East right now
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and making it really kind of unfortunately because I think
it'll be used against the Bills, one of the weaker
divisions in all the football.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
Yeah, this is, in my opinion there when you look
at it on paper, one of their easiest paths to
getting the East Crown. I still have a lot of
respect for what the Patriots could potentially be, but they
have some faults they have to figure out on their offense.
I think that run blocking is brutal and it was
very tough to watch too. Yeah, then the Raiders front
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is not a front that I think is top five
in the league. Like they they were struggling against what
I would consider a pretty average average defensive front. And
it's you kind of see this every year where there's
a lot of lofty expectations but ultimately there's just teams
with holes in the back end of their roster that
really ugly heads Miami right now. I mean, we'll see
what happens this upcoming week, but if they go to
(01:00:42):
two oh and doo. Dude, I don't know how much
longer you could say Mike McDaniel is the head coach.
Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
I just want to know that I was on this
right from the jump when everybody was riding that Mike
dat McDaniel wagon. He's such a genius all this stuff, Like,
I give him a He's definitely a smart offensive coach.
But I've called this guy a fraud from day one.
I knew he had no clue what he was doing
as a head coach of a football organization. Dude, you
can just here in the way he talks. I've met
a hundred bullshitters in my life, and he is definitely
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one of those guys. I saw it from a mile away,
and I'm I'm the least shocked person on social media
to see him just like bumbling through press conferences like
that stick is up. It's not cute when you're not
winning and everything's not like. I saw this whole playing
out exactly as it's playing out, And honestly, I hope
Miami keeps riding it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Greer has been there for what a decade He's been
there one year he.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Was a GM in NFL without a playoff without a
playoff win.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Perfect, Yeah, that's you bad at it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
You're doing a great jobs.
Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
So I have a correction.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
It was week fifteen and the Lions were fifth and
blitz percentage, so I apologize I got that wrong, but
still top time.
Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Sorry. I just wanted to talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
didn't want to.
Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
I didn't want to mislead our people, but yeah, man,
I think this is a chance to just further cement yourself.
And I think also to the fact that you could
be too a oer and knowing that the Ravens and
the Chiefs and the Texans are all trying to play
catch up with the chance that one of those teams
could potentially be o into Like a win here isn't
just like a feel good story of coming out of
met life and being the Jets. It actually does have,
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in my opinion, long term implications. When you talk about
AFC seating you want to get to the one seed.
These are games you have to win too, especially with
the advantage you have right now. So a big game
divisional rivals are always big games to me. If some
pass it, but I'm excited for it, and Aaron, I
appreciate the heck out of you.
Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Man. You're an awesome guest. This was a really fun conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
I appreciate you braving through allergies to be here with
me today, and I want you to right now with
the floor, tell the people which got going on, where
they can find you anything you want to plug ye
about it.
Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
Yeah, anyone that's offended by my allergies. It's going to
be a long like two months for those people because
it's it's.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Here for a little bit, but no anyone can find me.
Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
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know that the odds for our matchup are sixty two
percent in my favor. That means nothing, but I'm feeling
good right now.
Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Yes, it's tough.
Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
Jayden Reid going out with one catch in zero points
and like holding his shoulder in the first chord.
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Not great for my team. So we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Maybe it could be a long weave for me here
and Jayden Daniels not looking great, not a great first half.
Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
For I Just need a touchdown to zach Ertz. Just
a touchdown to zach Ertz. That's all I need because
zach Ertz is the best flex ever. But no man,
thank you again, and then for everybody who joined in again,
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Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
We'll see you soon.