Which Buffalo Bills Players Are Due For a BREAKOUT Season? | UR - Under Review

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
What is going on everybody, and thank you so much
for tuning into this week's episode of Under Review. My
name is Joe DeRosa. You can find me on bu
sky at under reviewc one dot bsky dot social and
it's been a bit of an erratic summer for this show.
Obviously we are not live on Tuesday evening. I have
been messing around with a pre recorded format just to
get the content going at a more flexible schedule this summer.

(00:56):
So I do apologize if you have been waiting for
those Tuesday nights at seven That will return, But in
the meantime, we have content going all summer on this channel,
and from this show, we are going to be covering
what we feel are our top three candidates to most
likely break out this upcoming season. Now, I want to
stress this is not limited to rookies, This is not

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limited to second year players. This is anyone on the team, offense, defense,
special teams. Even was fair game to choose from as
players we feel are going to take a significant step forward,
whether it is in personal development as a player, whether
it is in production, whether it's in everything, and they
just become a major factor more so than they have
been in years prior, or in a year prior. And

(01:38):
I'm really excited to do this episode, and I'm excited
to bring on my guests. Someone who has visited the
show many times, one of my favorite guests to bring on,
who can really come through in a pinch, and that
is mister Mike Bunt. Mike Bunt, welcome back to the show.
I had you on a few weeks ago and I
appreciate you returning.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
How are you doing tonight, my friend, I'm doing great.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
I recently found out my seats in the Bill's new stadium,
so I'm psyched about that. Right now. I'm in a
good mood. Actually could afford them, which was always scary
going into the process. But happy about football season finally
being around the corner. Can't wait to talk about my
breakout players, and god, we're almost back. We're almost back

(02:19):
to football season. You gotta love it.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's literally, like I consider really just after the schedule release,
the true doldrums, or after really mini camp, Like once
you get that summer break, it's just dry. You don't
really get much news unless there's an extension or a
trade or something that you don't really expect to happen
in most cases. So the past few weeks have just
been like a tumbleweed rolling through a dry plane. And

(02:44):
it's nice that we're getting to that point where a
training camp is just right around the corner. We're gonna
have a bunch of news to cover, a bunch of
players to follow. And it's why I wanted to do
this episode because now it becomes a little bit more
relevant with what we know about the roster construction so far,
some of the players they've brought in, some of the
x expectations we have for returning new you know, veteran players.
I think it would be fun to discuss the ones

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that we think are going to take a step forward
and again do more for the team this.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Year that maybe they haven't done in previous years.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
And you know, that doesn't mean these players were bad,
it doesn't mean they were invisible. But there is always
room to progress for any player in the league. And
these are the people that I think we will, you know,
share with each other, the ones that we see likely
to do it. So, I mean, Mike, I want to
get right to the list, and I want to start
with you. You are the guests, and for anyone watching,
we do not know each other's list. This was not predetermined.

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I have three, he asked three, maybe a couple of
honorable mentions. So Mike, let's start with number three. Who
is your number three player that you expect to break
out or at least take a significant step forward this
upcoming season.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
So before I give a name, I just wanted to
kind of give my thought process and how I came
up with my list. So when you talk about a
breakout player, that can mean a lot of different things
to allow of different people. Sometimes it could be a
player that's never on anything and establishing themselves. For others,
it could be a player that has been good but

(04:07):
about to be great. You could have a lot of
different criteria. It could be the person that's been in
the league for a while that hasn't yet had that
mark left. But I'm going to start with number three
with my dark horse breakout player. Now, this is me
maybe stretching a little bit for an extreme dark horse

(04:28):
to open this up, because I think my other five
to six guys that I was thinking about are more
likely to have bigger seasons. But Jon Solomon is my
good one breakout candidates, and there's a lot of reasons why.
First of all, he was a late round pick last
year out of the Sunbelt Conference who showed a lot

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of skill in the G five levels, was a sack
machine in college, and while we didn't see him on
the field a ton last year, he did have two sacks.
Was one of two players think that we're drafted in
the fifth round or later to have two sacks in
an NFL season last year. And what I like about
Solomon is that right off the gate, he should have

(05:10):
an opportunity to see the field a little bit. With
Michael Hoyt being suspended the first six games of the season.
Now he's going to be in a backup role. He'll
be behind guys like Joey Bosa and obviously Greg Russo
aj Ampaneza, but I still think he's going to factor
into the rotation and given the opportunity, I think he's
a player that's gonna record some sacks for this Bills

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team this upcoming season. Not expecting him to be a star,
but breakout player. Could definitely see him taking a step
forward and becoming a name that more Bills fans are
familiar with this season.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I do really love that pick, and I was tempted
to put him on the list. The only reason I
did it was because on the verse of the Hoyt suspension,
it feels like there still is a crowded room in
front of him. And I don't think that his role
is at are really going to be larger than just
situational pass rush specialist, But I think he's going to
do really well in that role. And I am excited

(06:07):
to watch him because he was very explosive last year.
I mean, when you saw the opportunities he was getting
on the field, you know, whether it was an end
of games, whether it was in certain situations where it
was a third and long. He generates pressure, he can
hit home, and that juice is there. I know people
worry about the frame, people worry about can he hold
up in the NFL, But I do think that you know,
the arm length and the violence he plays with the

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ability to use his hands get under your pads and
be strong enough with a low center of gravity to
get push bodes really well for Javon Solomon just as
a long term again rotational pass rusher, and I think
that there isn't that much pressure on him to see
it through. But that works in his favor because I
think this Bill's defense again is designed to get you
in those positions, to create havoc, to create third and

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long opportunities. And if Michael Hoyt can't go, and maybe
there's a slow development in Land and Jackson or a
very likely sideline for Joey Bosa if he happens to
get hurt, then you have Javon Solomon getting a real
opportunity to make noise, maybe in a more expanded role,
but even then still as a true pass rush threat.
And I really love that and I could see it

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for him. Again, while I have my reasons for why
I didn't put him on this list, I am excited
about that player. I really love the pick. I loved
his combine. I thought the athleticism was there. I thought
when you watched this tape from Troy, he was just visible,
like he was not a player that you look at
and you're like, I'm not sure this would have to
translate to this. This would have to kind of show
more out in the next level, like right then and

(07:32):
there you could see the potential for what he could
be in the NFL, and the Bills have that at
the back end of their room.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
So I love that pick, Mike. That's a great way
to start it off.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
My number three is actually, and I didn't just do
this because you're on the show, but it's almost like
closing the loop on the last conversation we have when
we were last here. I do remember this, and I
had a really hard time choosing between two specific players,
but I chose Elijah Moore and the reason I chose
Elijah Moore over Curtis Samuel specifically, those were my back

(08:04):
and forth right because Curtis Samuel, the case I was
going to make for him was by the year's end,
he became a more consistent part of the offense and
they did run certain things through him. He didn't have
crazy volume, crazy numbers, but there were just situations where
he came through, whether it was a third and medium,
or whether it was man coverage beater, or whether it

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was a red zone threat. Curtis Samuel was much more
productive when he got healthy, and I do feel like
a healthy Curtis Samuel is going to be a huge
asset for this Bill's receiving room that still has things
to prove against Man's own coverage, mainly Man be a separator,
be a true consistent, stable threat, and be someone that
can go down the field. My reason I didn't put

(08:45):
him over more is durability. I think as Curtis Samuel
is getting older. As Curtis Samuel has dealt with nagging
soft tissue injuries throughout his career, including last year with
turf Tow, I just worry if that durability is going
to rear its ugly head again. And my expectations for
players like Joey Boza, where you know it's consistent that
they get hurt, I start to get that with him.

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So I do worry about long term productivity being affected
for that reason, And even if he plays and he
comes through on the field over the course of a
long season, I would just need to see it. So
for Elijah Moore, why I put him instead. Elijah Moore
to me, has varying expectations from the fan base. Some
people think he is wide receiver one.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
He has not. Let's stop doing that.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I don't think he's wide receiver one, but some people
think he's also a fringe wide receiver five. I think
Elijah Moore's production realistically is going to be something that
sits in the five to six hundred yard range, something
like a four to six touchdown being as high point,
maybe fifty to sixty receptions, because when he it was Cleveland,
he had sixty one receptions five hundred and thirty eight
yards one touchdown, but the offense did use him a

(09:48):
bit more in a less crowded wide receiver room. But
I do think that Elijah Moore does bring really stable,
solid route running to a Bills room that again it
needs to create separation, and he is a separator on
all levels of the field. I think that skill set
is going to be very vital for when the Bills
find themselves in a disadvantageous position on offense where maybe

(10:11):
the run isn't working as well as they wanted to.
They met a really good front seven that's channeling them
and matching them really well, shutting them down. They can't
really get flexible and they need to throw the ball more.
I think Elijah Moore is going to grow into a
role where he becomes Josh's other right hand man on
third down as opposed to Khalil Shakir. And this isn't
to discredit Josh Palmer, but I think Josh Palmer is

(10:34):
going to almost be like a twenty nineteen John Brown
for the Bills in the sense that he will be
like an X role and command a lot of attention
because he's going to go upfield frequently. I think Elijah
Moore is going to eat off the play of that
role though, and become someone that becomes kind of your
crutch in clutch situations, and I'm very excited to watch it.
And again, the ability to work out of the slot,

(10:54):
the ability to work up field, I think are very
imperative things for this receiving cores. And I think That'lljah
Moore for that reason, is going to have a very
nice rapport with Josh Allen. Create separation, get open, and
Josh isn't going to be afraid to target him. A
great point made by Matt Harmon on this week's Cover
One Buffalo podcast is that Josh Allen would be willing
to throw to someone with this frame, a frame that

(11:15):
he feels held him back at certain points in his career.
I think Elijah Moore is going to be a much
more productive and stable part of this receiving corps, and
he's a candidate for me to possibly break out and
again breaking out his relative I don't think it's twelve
hundred yards, like I said, about five to six fifty,
but a really productive, helpful five hundred yards that overall
boosts the threat of this receiving corps and makes the

(11:37):
offense more potent.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Mike, what do you think?

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Hey? I like what you had to say. Elijah Moore
definitely has some ability. He probably has the biggest range
of outcomes for this upcoming season. You say five hundred yards.
I think a lot of fans would be disappointed at
five hundred yards out of Elijah Moore. But the fact
of it is he's never really had six hundred and
seven hundred plus type yard season, So basically his ceiling

(12:05):
has been around sixty receptions for around high five hundreds.
So if he can have six hundred to seven hundred yards,
that would be a good season for him. Definitely a
player that some people think has that eight hundred nine
hundred yard potential. Me personally, I have to see it
before I believe it. I believe he's gonna have an
impact on this Bills offense. He could be a forty

(12:26):
plus catch guy. The one year, five million dollar contract,
though it gives me some hesitancy if the Bills really
valued him. If the rest of the NFL really valued him,
he wouldn't have been around all the way up until
the draft. So while I do see the potential for
him breaking out, I don't think it's a guarantee. But

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I think we all believe in the skill set that
he brings to the table. He's obviously very quick, very
very elusive, can get downfield, can can do things with
well in his hands. I do see a higher ceiling
for him. It's just will the Bills bring that out
of him. I know there's been talk about, well, he's
played with a lot of bad quarterbacks. Well, if you're

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on a lot of bad offenses and you have the
skill set, why are they letting you go? So that's
one of my questions with Elijah Moore with the Jets
in Cleveland being able to move on from him, and
then number two, the team's not going after him, and
then number three. We've kind of done this before with
the Bills where we've hyped up these marginal receivers in

(13:30):
the past and said, well, with Josh Allen, they're going
to go off. We did it this past season with
Kurtis Samuel and didn't really do anything. We've done it
with Trent Sherfield the year before that. So there's been
a handful of guys. Even Calvin Benjamin early in his
career was someone that people thought was going to make
an impact in Buffalo. I know, different situation, but it's

(13:52):
not always working out. Even a Mari Cooper, even if
you believe he's watched, Mary Cooper really didn't do anything
once he came to Buffalo despite being an impact player
the year before.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
I'm glad that you brought up Josh Palmer though, and
then you brought up twenty nineteen John Brown, because twenty
nineteen John Brown was a pretty good receiver that helped
make Josh all the guy that we now know seventy
two catches for over one thousand yards and six touchdowns.

(14:21):
So I would love to see some twenty nineteen John
Brown out of Josh Palmer. And I don't know if
this was your last show that I was with you
that I discussed this with. Has there ever been a
Bills free agent receiver that's gotten the contract that John
Brown has gotten that has been.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
More under the radar that Josh Palmer. All of us
talk about Elijah Moore, all of this talk about Keon
Coleman and Khalil Sakier and Dalton k and Kad and
James Cook, nobody's talking about Josh Palmer at all. Yeah,
the dude is getting over ten million dollars a year
and there's a reason why, and it's because the Bills
are going to prioritize him in their PAS. And I

(15:01):
can't wait to see him put up some numbers with
his Bills team, because I know he hasn't been a
stat machine or a box score stuffer in LA. But
there's a couple things when you look at the numbers
that show a guy that has the potential to do
a lot more than what we've seen prior in his career.

(15:22):
So here's the first couple of things. Second year in
the league goes off for seventy two receptions. That's pretty
impressive when you talk about a second year player right
out of the game. But the last couple of years
there's things that go into his decreased numbers. So if
you actually go through the last three years, Palmer only

(15:43):
played ten games in twenty twenty three, and if you
count the last three years combined, he's played in forty
one games. If you do his per seventeen game averages
over the last three years. Joshua Palmer, ever just sixty
two receptions for eight hundred and one yards a season.

(16:06):
Those aren't small numbers. Everybody's pumping up Elijah more because
they see the sixty receptions around there the last two
years in Cleveland. But we're talking about josh Palmer, a
guy that actually averages around the same numbers per seventeen games,
but a higher reception receiving yards total, and a guy

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that the Bills want to use in their vertical game,
and they have already given a lot of money to him.
And when you ask Brandon Beam, he'll tell you part
of the reason he didn't put up all the numbers
last year, Herbert missed him a few times. There was
plays out there to be had that the Chargers didn't
utilize him. Also, La went from a very past heavy

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offense in Palmer's first three years to a very run
oriented attack last year. He was numbers went down for
everyone with ow and obviously they bring in Ladin McConkie,
who had a great season, And maybe that's part of
the reason why Bill's fans aren't as high on Palmer
because they see McConkie go off, and they're like, well,

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Palmer had an opportunity, he didn't take advantage of it.
But I'll say this, when the Bills had Stefan Diggs,
Gabe Davis was putting up numbers. He had a season
with eight thirty. He was averaging over seven hundred yards
per season. I think Joshua Palmer is a lot more
talented than Gave Davis. I believe he's a higher upside

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player overall. So if you put him in a similar
role to Gabe Davis and you have a better offensive line,
you have the ability to run the ball, and you
have a few other weapons in your past game like
Khalil Sakier, Kean Coleman, Elijah Moore, I think that opens
things up for josh Palmer. I'm not gonna say he's
gonna be a thousand yard receiver, but my expectations going

(17:54):
in is that Palmer is gonna be between a fifty
to fifty five reception guy. That's going to be anywhere
from seven hundred and fifty to eight hundred and fifty yards.
And I know that those aren't spectacular numbers. Those are
wide receiver two numbers or wide receiver number three numbers
if you ask Bills fans during the game, Davis years.

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But those are going to be very helpful for the
Bills going forward, and I think there is a ceiling
for even a little bit more if if he gets
that rapport right away with Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, and I really like the addition of Josh Palmer,
and I don't disagree with anything you've said. I am
bullish on his role in this offense. And I think
that production profile that you listed is realistic, but also
eight hundred yards in the Bills offense, it needs some
sort of scaling because the way they function as an offense,
like it is pretty hard to get a thousand yards

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when the ball goes to so many targets, and you
also prioritize running the ball efficiently and throwing to your
tight ends and throwing to your backs. Like any real
threat downfield would be putting up eight hundred yard yards
based off sheer exposive volume, and that would be celebrated
and be a really big accomplishment. So if Josh Palmer
can do that, I'm totally good for it. And I

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think you know what you described with him and the
lad McConkie dynamic is why I haven't bought into the
idea that he is going to probably have the same
like output that.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
John Brown had in that year.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
But then again, John Brown had been a partisan crowded
offenses and eight once he worked with Josh Allen and
got into that true Rex role. So I am excited
to watch him. I think he is going to be
a plus for this Bills offense. And I think just
kind of like tying the two together because they kind
of share and you'll you're gonna hear squeaking noises in
the background. That's the dog chewing on the toy. But
the connection with these two receivers. I think the Bills

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had a clear goal in who they wanted to add
personnel wise. I think they didn't feel that anyone in
the draft was worth reaching four that could provide you
the same skill set with the free agents they brought in.
And I think that both of these players offer you
upfield separation ability, which greatly matters. And I'm excited to
watch it. And I think, honestly, why I say more
and you say Palmer either or it could be that
breakout candidate based off usage, But I think if you

(20:06):
wanted to make the case that it's more likely to
be Palmer.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
I think that's perfectly fair.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
But again, I just need to see Palmer maintain an
ex role and thriving it for me to buy into
him breaking out more than the production profile he had
in LA last year, whereas with more I feel like
expectations are well. The role might start out as limited,
but it's going to grow eventually, just because of again
that reliability that you can get with him on third
down if you put him in the slot, and also

(20:30):
a point that I wanted to make a little bit
earlier that I forgot to. I think he is your
safety blanket if Keon Coleman's development doesn't really pan out
the way you wanted to at least this season, and
if Curtis Samuel goes down because you have Khalil Shaker,
you have Josh Palmer. But again, you know you need
that other guy to be able to get open and
work for you on eleven personnel if you designed to

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run it, and I think that Elijah Moore can be
that for you and be someone that really feeds into
that wide receiver three role, even if he isn't a
major scoring threat.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
I still I think he could be productive. But in
the case of.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Josh Palmer bouncing it back, yeah, I like the addition.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I was very for the signing.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I thought the contracts seemed a little rich, but it's
actually pretty reasonable. And I think that they're going to
ask him to do a lot, and if he does
take that step forward, that is going to make this
Bills offense all the more potent and all the more explosive.
And I don't think it's unrealistic to say something like
seven hundred eight hundred yards for Josh Palmer could happen.
I mean, he had some very big plays for LA
in the years, and I think a lot of his

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production got shrouded from again being in an offense that
had Mike Williams, who was their primary boundary threat and
Keenan Allen who worked out of the slot but was
basically the best slot receiver in his prime.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
He was an ancillary piece, but a really good one.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Maybe a growth and role is what he needs to
break out And I could totally see it. And I
want to ask, Mike, was he your formal number two?
He was actually your number two on the list. Did
we just get in a receiver Tangent, So.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
He was originally going to be my number one, but
then once he brought him up, I figured it was
a perfect segue to get in to uh. I had.
I have a list of ten players right now, and
so I put them in different categories of what what
makes sense to talk about, what's going kind of like

(22:15):
out there versus what's safe versus what makes good conversations.
So h once we do the number one, afterwards, I'll
kind of go into some of my other thought processes.
But Palmer was he was probably the one guarantee going
into this that I was going to talk about. And
it's it's funny how you you mentioned how Elijah Moore

(22:39):
has lower expectations going in while Palmer has those elevated expectations.
Because you're you're right from the Bill's standpoint, from a
purely football standpoint, more has more ground gain, So he
has to prove himself more within the organization to get

(23:00):
to that point where he gets the playing time and
the opportunities. It's ironic, though, because a lot of times
fans don't have that same process of thinking, not saying
that's good or bad. My feeling among interactions with Bills fans,
is that more of them are high on more no

(23:20):
pun intended, then Josh Palmer. I actually get a little
bit of this. Palmer's like Gabe Davis. He's gonna be
our number two, but he's not gonna do much. And
I feel like I'm a little bit higher on Josh
Palmer than most most people I've been speaking with. And
I don't know if that's maybe just the group that

(23:42):
I interact with, or if I'm not really sure the reasoning,
but I feel like he has that eight hundred yard potential.
And you made a good point too. In an offense
where you plan on spreading the ball out and you
plan on getting Sekire, Palmer, Coleman, maybe Samuel and more involved,

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and then you still have your tight ends and your
running backs. Really, what is considered a good year? What
is a bad year? Because when it was just the
Von Diggs and Gave Davis to your number two and
you really don't have that third high level contributor, it
felt like a disappointment when Gave Davis was only putting
up around eight hundred yards because everybody believed there was

(24:28):
a much higher ceiling there. But for a Josh Palmer
for a key on Coleman seven hundred and eight hundred
yards that they can both get around numbers like that,
or Elijah morgantting to six hundred, Those would be good seasons,
even if statistically when you compare them to other number
two receivers in the league, your three receivers in the league,
you might be like, oh, they're not that good. But
in Buffalo, it might be the perfect complemential roles that

(24:52):
fit this offense and let it gel the way you
need it to.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
No, I mean last year the Bill's top three in
receptions were three to fi and positions. It was receiver,
tight end, and running back. Like it is perfectly fair
to say that an eight hundred yard receiver if you
wait it till league get or not waited to league average,
if you put it on a scale like a Bill's curve,
it would basically be like having a twelve hundred yard
receiver because they're not going to get the same amount

(25:17):
of receptions as more pass heavy offenses.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
It's just not how it functions anymore.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
So for Palmer to be able to potentially do that
would be very welcomed by me.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
I hope it happens. I am pretty bullish on this
receiving corps.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
A lot of people seem to be like looking at
it on paper and thinking that it's not going to
produce the way it could. I personally believe it will.
And my reasoning is, it feels like they have one
of every type of skill set. But even if you
want to say it's all slots, it's not a bad thing.
Slots can sustain a drive, Slots can be shifty, they're
route runners, they can get up field if you need
them to like, and they have guys that profile really

(25:50):
well again as man separators. They have guys that are speedy,
guys that could be used in gadget roles, Guys that
could be motion pieces, misdirection pieces like I think the
Bills have set themselves to have a really fluid receiving
cord that's going to benefit them and compliment that ground
to pound style that they've developed really well. And I
think that when you view this offense, you have to
view it in tandem with what they've built scheme wise,

(26:12):
and not just well, these are the receivers that they have,
because again you can look back at the great Patriots teams,
you can look back at some of the even the
most recent Chiefs teams post Tyreek Hill and say, well,
they're still winning and they don't really have that prolific
guy outside of maybe one person in the case of
the chieesus Travis Kelce, who is incredible. You know, that
is an offense that was built with role players in mind,

(26:34):
and guys that are good at doing their one to
eleventh and then they get open or they make a
reception based off their skill set and it works. And
I think for the Bills, that's what they're going for it.
So I'm just hoping that that's the case. I'm hoping
that that is what we see from them this year.
I'm excited, Mike. I'm going to move on to number two.
And I know I'm frozen on the screen right now,

(26:55):
but I think you can still hear me giving your reaction.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
I don't know what's going on, and still hear you. Man.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
The good news is it's not just a YouTube show.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
It is an audio show, so the audio listeners are
not going to know what the hell is going on
on YouTube. You see us still of my face, So
just run with that and pretend you see me talking
until the connection improves. But let's go to number two,
and my number two is Cole Bishop. And I chose
Cole Bishop simply because all the cases I've made for
him as a player this year, this upcoming season, I

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figure all going to be pieces that lead to him
breaking out as a starting safety in the NFL, but
also in this defense.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Last year.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Again, and I've made this point so many times on
the show, but it's been a few weeks, so I
could say it again. I think that the Bills really
wanted him to slide in as a starter right away.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Injuries delayed, and here you go.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
You have a rookie that needs to catch up on
the playbook and he's not going to be as sound immediately.
He's going to have growing pains, he's going to look
out of place because he really didn't get those reps
this year.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
I need to see him stay healthy.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
But if he does, and he can get through a
full training camp, if he can get through a full
offseason program and ramp himself up properly, then I think
what you're going to get is a Coal Bishop that
his football IQ is processing, his understanding of the defense,
his understanding of how they disguise coverages, how they move

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their safeties around, how he's going to work in tandem
with his boundary corner, his nickel corner. I think that
what you're going to get is a refined version of
the rookie you saw last year, and one that when
he is playing, whether it's free safety or strong safety,
at the very least we're going to get above average
to good play from him, because again I don't expect

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him to be elite. It takes safeties a long time
to develop, but I do think good safety play for
Cole Bishop is a great step forward for him, but
also a great step forward for a passing defense that
can really benefit from some stability in their secondary, especially
with all the revisions that they have made to that
group in the cornerback room, where they've drafted two corners,

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brought back a tray white, and are really trying to
reinvent it. I think cold Bishop is a huge piece
of that puzzle. And a healthy col Bishop that gets
training camp reps, that gets the ability to just stay
on the field and get reps, I think by default
from that growth from that ability to ramp up, is
going to grow as an athlete who was already a

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freaking up athlete, someone who is already really fast, really fluid,
can translate well onto the field. He can shift and
coverage really well. He can tackle really well. These are
all things that I think Cole Bishop brings to the table.
If that mental processing takes that step forward, I totally
expect him to break out as a huge member of
the safety room and ultimately someone that just again fortifies

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you on those third and lungs and just prevents any
lapses and coverages. I can make up for lost ground
if he does get dusted a little bit like He's
someone that I have that much faith in to fortify
that part of his game. It's why he's my number
two on the list. Mike, I'll pitch it back to you,
what do you think of Cold Bishop?

Speaker 4 (29:57):
So? Cold Bishop was one of the guys that I
was consider putting on my list. There was only a
few reasons why I didn't include him, and it's mostly
because he didn't really step up given his opportunities last year.
He left more to be desired overall on the playing field. Now,

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when you look at Sean mcdermot's history with safeties, it's
normally a safe bet that somebody like Cold Bishop will
step up. You look at Micah High, Jordan Poyer, almost
anybody that's been back there, Taylor Rapp recently, even to
mar Hamlin's had his moments. Normally, whoever they have back
there is going to have success. So I think you'd
be a fool to bet against Cold Bishop, especially since

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he was a Day two pick in recent years. I
just need to see more from him. I need to
see him healthy. I need to see him through a camp,
and then at that point, hopefully we can see Cold
Bishop take that next step forward with the Buffalo Bills.
But that's as good of a pick as any, Joe,

(31:04):
I don't know if you're with me right now.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yep? I can hear you, So that's good.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
I've turned into I've turned into Bruce Nolan, live on
it or in the sense that you can't see me,
you can only hear me, John.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
John Cena, you can't see me, man. But I don't
know what Gold Bishop. I don't know pick. I don't
know what you heard me say or not. My only
skepticism is I haven't seen it yet, and that's what
I struggle with. Everything points to him being a good prospect.
Him fitting in with McDermott and Bobby Babbitts. They know

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what they're looking for in the secondary, especially at the
safety position. But I need to see a little bit
more before I can just proclaim it's gonna be a
great fit. And I'll probably be made a hypocrite with
my next pick after saying making that statement there. But
I think it's gonna work out well, but I need
a little bit more of a sample size.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah, makes perfect sense.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
And I think why I just chose him was because
even if there isn't that much of a body of
work from him, I think what development could happen for
col Bishop as far as positive development goes. I think
that alone is already going to make him like a
huge part of this defense. It has to do right
because he's playing safety, but I think it's already going
to lock him into just a role that elevates the

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rest of the defense. Like the impact of his development
is breaking out. It is creating stability, and it is
creating splash plays and turnover opportunity and hard hitting and honestly,
complimenting with Taylor Rapp, who I did consider putting on
this list, another really aggressive, hard nose safety that just
makes the physicality of this defense more imposing. It's something
that you could see happen this season. So I think

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it's just what it looks like if he could break
out and if I think it's realistic, and I think
it is for cold Bishop. But I definitely understand people's
hesitation or skepticism because I have my concerns.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
What if he gets hurt again? What is it going
to look like.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I mean, does Derek Forrest come in and all of
a sudden you have a question about your second round pick,
or is it DeMar Hamlin again like we would have
to see. But I'm just very optimistic about the prospect.
I liked him last year so much, especially after the combine,
seeing his athleticism on display. I think it was a
perfect pick for a Bill's defense that needed a safety.
I think he's their future, and I think the future
is now and he develops to break out this upcoming season.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
But Mike to move on to number one.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Actually, before we get to number one, I do want
to hear just a couple of those honorable mentions you had.
You can give you a quick read on why you
chose them, why you didn't put him in the top three.
You had a list of ten, so I am very
interested in I'll.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Give you a few of the honorable mentions because I
don't want to take away the entire surprise, because there's
a few guys that could still be that number one.
My honorable mentions I had Osiris Torrants. I know that
he's been a starting right guard for a couple of years,
hasn't been a highly graded lineman despite being on a
highly rated overall offensive line. I think there's some untapped

(33:56):
potential for Osiris Torrants to take his game to another level.
This one I didn't say because I thought fans would
grill me if I said it. But Dalton Kincaid through
two years, he really hasn't had that high level of
play that Bills fans were hoping for. But it's not
like he's been bad either. He's averaged around fifty nine

(34:18):
receptions for about five hundred and sixty yards. So for
most players in their first two years in the NFL
as a tight end, that would be pretty damn good.
But when your first round pick with expectations of from
a fan base and being the next Travis Kelsey, that's
a little bit disappointed. I think Kinkaid has another level
that he can get to. And then I'll say a

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few other of my honorable mention players. Ray Davis he'll
have an elevated role, Alec Anderson, he really stepped up
well last year given his opportunities. And then Dorian Williams.
Is that door going to open for him to eventually
be one of the starting linebackers, assuming that this is

(35:00):
Matt Mulano's maybe his last year on the Bills. So
those are a couple of my honorable mention I'm not
gonna say a couple because I want to leave some surprise.
So my number one breakout player right now, I already
went receiver trained. Could I be mentioning Kean Coleman? Could
I be mentioning Taylor Raft some other guys on this team?

(35:23):
My number one guy. I'm gonna kind of be a
little bit wimpy with this one. I'm going with the
rookie first round pick Maxwell.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Here's wow. Okay.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
I know some people will say that's unfair. You're picking
a first round pick who is being picked to be
part of the future. I really like the talent on
this guy and what he brings to the table. The
Bills have not had speed in the secondary like this
guy the entire time McDermott has been in Buffalo. This
guy is He's unbelievably fast and does he have a

(35:57):
learning curve? Yesna, He's gonna need to get down with
the NFL game. You have Trey White as a mentor
who can help you learn learn things with the defense
and if you're not ready, he can Trey White can
can can start for a little bit until Harrison is ready.
And if Harris Harrison is ready, I think there's some
high level potential right there. You have Benford on the

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one set and Harrison on the other. Say, this defensive
line lives up to the expectations and the hopes of
Bills fans getting to the quarterback creating pressure. Harrison a guy,
a ball howking machine that has speed to do something
with it after he has it in his hands. The
future is unlimited with this guy, assuming that everything is

(36:44):
good off the field, that there's no problems with the
recent civil case. I love this guy. I think he
has the ability to be a future star in the
making in the NFL level and can't really wait to
see what he does on the field. The one person
I didn't mention earlier. An honorable mention now I'll give
him away was Keon Coleman. It's not that I don't

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think Keon Coleman can't break out. I think a lot
of fans are gonna pick a guy like that because
he's likable, he's charismatic. He was their first pick in
the second round last year. My issue with Keon Coleman
is at this point in time, I don't think he

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has what is needed from a skilled perspective to dominate
on his own. He he is great with the ball
in his hands, and he can make people miss. He
can make a five yards great, a slant into something special,
he can take. He can take almost anything the house.

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He can get a jump ball in the end zone.
But I don't like the fact that as a route
runner he struggles to get separation and that it forces
a lot tight window throws. So while I do expect
Keon Coleman to put up decent numbers, he's not gonna
ever be my breakout because I feel like when you're
that first pick of the second round, there's always gonna

(38:08):
be those expectations that he could be a thousand plus
yard receiver, and I really don't think that's gonna be
his role with the Bills going forward. Now I could
be wrong, but when you do the expectations game, just
like with Josh Palmer, if Bills fans are thinking six
hundred yards and he gets eight hundred, that's a success.
Or Elijah Moore getting the six hundred seven hundred that's

(38:30):
a success. I think the same is gonna hurt Coleman.
Where he gets six hundred and seven hundred yards, people
are gonna consider that a failure. So for the sake
of this conversation, I'm not gonna have him as my
breakout player. But Maxwell Harrison, I know you can kind
of say the same first round pick, there's gonna be
sky high expectations. I think this guy has that skill

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set to be an unbelievable corner one day in the NFL.
And I even think as a rookie he has the
ability to be good right away. And who knows, I
could be completely wrong with this joke. We hier Elam struggle,
but yeah, if for the cornerbacks that understand what they're
supposed to be doing in the Bills defense typically have

(39:18):
success pretty quickly, and I think that Maxwell Harrison has
all the tools to where if he has it upstairs,
he's going to be able to capitalize.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
And I'll validate you on the reason for picking him.
I just think that he's a better fit for this
Bill's defense than Elm was coming out of college. I
think he is a savvy zone corner. He has great
ball skills, but he also has great awareness when it's
on the field, real time processing, ability to time and
jump on routes' ability to cover in man even he

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didn't play a lot of it. But I do think
that the profile he has as an athlete playing with
a lot of speed does lend itself well to someone
like Max Harrison in his own defense where they're going
to be playing from death and coming up to play.
The tackling is really the only thing I'm worried about
with him, but I think that can develop in time
as long as the coverage skills are good. I'm good,
and I think there is real potential for him with

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a good training camp, to emerges that immediate CB two
and to be ready to go on Week one and
be a really stout rookie corner.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I don't think it's on realistic to expect big things
from him.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
He is your first round He's your first round pick,
and I think that he has a lot of his
game that translates well with this Bills defense to a
point where, like, I can understand why someone's expectations for
him are quite high.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
And they've needed stability at the CB two position.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
For years and I think they finally got that complimentary
corner to the opposite side that can be a net
positive and really just shore up the ability to cover
deep and make teams have to be one dimensional throw
to the middle of the field, which is really where
they want you to where.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
They want you to throw. So I like that pick.
It's not on my list.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
He's not on my list again just because I figured rookie, like,
I don't know if he'll break out. Very cautious with
Bill's corners. I know they developed Dv's well. I've said
it on the show. I'm a big fan of McDermott's
ability to develop secondary players. But with Hairston, I feel
like there are going to be just natural growing pains
for Hairston. I think it's just going to come with
their desire to play more man coverage and maybe showing

(41:17):
some lumps in that not that he can't, but maybe
that it's going to present it like, oh, well, I'm
not playing what I played so frequently at Kentucky to
a point where maybe it's going to throw me off
my game a little bit and I have to adjust
and course correct. And that's okay. I mean, I expect
them from a rookie. I give him some grace, so
I don't have them on my list. But I definitely
understand your points, and I think fans should be excited

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for the pick because fundamentally it made sense for my
honorable mentions on here. I mentioned Curtis Samuel earlier.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
He was my one I left off the list.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Dalton Kinkaid is another one, and for the same reason
as you mentioned, like, I think that Dalton Kinkaid's problems
are not only his own. I think there are external
factors that led to a decline in production this year,
and a lot of that has to do with Josh
and his inability to be accurate downfield, which really did
hurt Dalton Kinkaid in that regard. There were numerous opportunities,

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as you mentioned before with Herbert and Josh Palmer, with
Josh Allen and Dalton Kinkaid and Dalton Kinkaid being open
and creating separation but not getting an accurate ball and
not getting that big exposive play. And I mean this, Mike,
I think that with Kinkaid, it like the entire conversation.
I mean, obviously the drop in the AFC Championship is
almost like a perfect culmination of the discourse of him,

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because it was a really difficult play, but he was
there and he drops it, and it's like, damn, that
connection just can't happen like that. They aren't getting on
the same page. Everything feels panicked and rushed with Dalton Kinkaid,
and it leads to mistakes or missed opportunities. And during
the year, if just like two or three of those
deep shots connected, I think people have a completely different

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perception of Dalton Kinkaid in this offense. But it never
came to fruition because just bad balls were thrown or
he wasn't looked at, Like I could think of the
Texans game where he had a step on l Shaiir
and it got tipped at the last second and it
would have been a touchdown. I could think of the
Colts game where he was wide open and he had
a golden opportunity. I could think the Miami game where

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he was open on that third down and just Josh
missed him because he didn't reset his platform properly. I
think you can make a great case for Dalton Kink
being a tremendous breakout star of this upcoming year, even
with my own worries that I've mentioned on this show.
I just didn't put him on the list because I
could make a stronger case, at least for me, for
other players on this list. And then the other one

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I had was Osirius Torrence also because yeah, he is
a starter, but there is work to be done in
his pass protection. I think as a run blocker, he
really has developed nicely in pass pro. He's had some
really solid games, but I'd like to see him stretch
it more consistently and not get destroyed by someone's like
low center bowl rush, or get knocked off his feet
by really strong, aggressive interior, or even get fooled on

(43:58):
games and stunts where he does that really take the
pass off properly and he loses balance and gets blown by.
I just want to see him refine that a bit.
If he does, I think he's a guard you keep
on your team forever. But that is something that I'm
just like, I'm a little weary to put him on
the list of expecting it to get better. He said
to himself that it's something that like he works on

(44:19):
and like practices for. And I think you could put
him on a list if you made one. I just
kept him off because I was just unsure versus the
other people I had on here. And now I'm going
to give you my number one. This might be a
cop out, Mike, because I feel like this is a
person you could have put at number one on this
list for like the past three years. But I think
given the way my reasoning, given the way the Buffalo

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Bills have retooled, this positional group, given the way the
Buffalo Bills have invested and this positional group, given the
production the individual player has had on his own, but
also seeing what the flashes look like for this player,
what a complimentary piece is on the opposite side of him.

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My number one player is Greg Russo, and I chose
Greg Russo because I want to just read you that
this stat which was he was thirtieth in pass must
productivity in twenty twenty four, amongst I believe I had
it a fifty percent of qualifying edge rushers. Now thirtieth.
You might be thinking, oh, that's not that great, But
go ahead and go look at the list of defensive

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ends he's above, one of which being Max Crosby, one
of which being Josh Sweat, one of which being a Dafela.
Like names that you recognize as edge rushers that in
the back of your mind, if you don't watch the
rest of the league and you just hear their names said,
you would imagine them being very productive, touted edge rushers
that if they were a free agent tomorrow, you would
be like, oh, dude, we got to get him.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
It's going to make our line so much better.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Greg Russo has, in my opinion, all the secondary pieces
of being an edge rusher set, including his run defense,
which is elite. He is one of the best edge
setting run defenders in the league. Okay, but he he
does generate pressure, he does make push in the pocket.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
He can win. But you know, obviously, with.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
The way this Bill's defense is constructed, a lot of
four man pressures and oftentimes with the space created, quarterbacks
get opportunities to extend plays. It doesn't really see his
closing as often, and that is something that I think
he does need to improve on. However, the best versions
of Greg Russo, in my opinion, have been when he
has that opposite piece. When Von Miller was healthy, that

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was the best. And I'm talking von Miller twenty twenty two.
In my opinion, that was the best Greg Russeau looked
in his entire career before he hurt his foot and
then he missed time. He comes back, he's not one
hundred percent. Leonard Floyd comes in and he looks really,
really good, and then he suffers another injury and he's
just not able to stay on the field. But when
he is healthy and he has that opposite piece, I

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think Greg Russou is a phenomenal edge rusher. In past rushes,
especially PRP metrics from this year and last season, back
it up that he is a pressure generating threat. So
now I know I mentioned my injury concerns earlier, by
the way, and Greg Russo has had them in the past,
But last season he was healthy, so I don't really

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worry too much about injury with Greg Russo. But what
I will say is now that this Bill's defensive line
has not only added Joey Bosa, but also gotten Landa
Jackson to be that rotational piece who I have a
lot of confidence and I'm very excited about that player.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
But also retooled the interior to include TJ.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Sanders, who is a very pass rush threatening three technique
at least or one technique, however, he's going to play
maybe even at NOS. You know, another pressure savvy draft
pick in Dion Walker, but also going and getting Larry Oganjobi,
who is very good at generating pressure from the interior,
getting Michael Hoyt, the addition of Ryan Nielsen, which I

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think is going to be the biggest factor in this
D line potentially transforming to be more productive. I think
all of those things I did lend themselves to Greg
Russo's ability to develop more as a pass rusher. And
what I think you are going to see, Mike is
Greg Russo's best season yet, best season in pass rush productivity,
best season and overall sack numbers. Even though the Bills

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are very collective when it comes to the sack numbers,
like it's not one guy, it's a few guys that
all generate different amounts, like Ed Sanders, Bosa. I think
they're all going to have their share, but I think
Russeau is just going to have his most productive, most acceptable,
biggest breakout year of his career for all those factors
I listed, and I am incredibly excited to watch him.

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I am incredibly excited that we extended him for such
a reasonable contract, and I think, like Ed Oliver a
couple of years ago, Mike, he's going to play above
the value and we're going to be really happy we
got him for as cheap as as we did. And
that's my number one and the last player I got.
So Mike back to you and then we'll wrap it up.
What do you think of Greg Russo?

Speaker 4 (48:53):
I love it. It's a great pick. Greg Russou is
a tough player though to talk about, especially with fans,
because we've been taught that sacks are the most important
stat when it comes to judging defensive ends, and that
is just not something that Greg Grusso lights up on

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a yearly basis. Now you mentioned all the other advanced
metrics and things that he does great in. He has
a good pass rush win rate, He is great in
the run game and contain and keeping quarterbacks in the pocket,
and there's so many things that Greg Russo is good at,

(49:38):
absolutely deserving of his contract, and you look at his
potential going forward as a young defensive end, he has
the ability to become one of the best defensive ends
in Bill's history. Now, I'm not going to call him
Bruce Smith or anything like that. That's a whole nother level,
way way above Greg Grussou. But I think you're looking

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at a guy that has already been in the league,
what four years, five years for not getting the number
one hundred percent. But you're talking about a guy that
has a chance to play a decade plus in Buffalo
and really make a high level impact. And I hope

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fans realize that what he does goes beyond just sacking
the quarterback. And and a lot of this was known
when he first came to Buffalo was that even though
we had the sack totals at Miami, he was never
really that explosive off the edge, get to the quarterback
in a second and a half type guy. He was

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more of a clean up the pocket. Somebody gets the
quarterback to push up, then he'll take him down. And
I do think that with the way the defensive line
is currently orchestrated with Joey Bosa on the opposite side
and at Oliver in the middle and bringing in some
of this much needed help throughout the rest of the
line that it is going to shape up for Greg

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Russeau to have maybe his best season yet on the Bills. Now,
the question is what is that going to mean for
sack totles? Is he a double digit guy? I don't
know what your opinion is on that, Joe. I think
that for Rousseau, ten is always going to be around
that ceiling. For him, I don't think he has that
thirteen fourteen to fifteen sack level in him. But if

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he can get you from eight to eleven on a
yearly basis and do the things he does well routinely,
I think you take it. I think that's a guy
that is probably underappreciated by the fan base overall. Not
saying that fans don't love him. I know, I know

(51:49):
he's a fan favorite, but overall, he's probably much closer
to the top level of defensive ends in football than
what people actually realize. And he's not at that top tier,
but when you get to maybe top ten to fifteen,
he's definitely in that conversation when you get to that point.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
I don't think he's the mountaintop of edge rushers. I
think it's not impossible for him to get there. I
think what we have to remember, Like again, I would
have loved if Russeau came and lit up the league.
But Brandon Bean is a trades guy. He's going to
find guys that have really raw but exciting tools and
try to build it up. He's doing that with Kean
Coleman right now. Greg Russeau is the shining example of

(52:31):
a guy. Josh Allen's the shining example of that actually,
but Greg Russou defensively is one of those examples. I
think that we always had to be patient with Rousseau,
and it's been frustrating because development is not linear. But
Rousseau through and through each year just finds ways to
get a little bit better. And the development hasn't been
this shoot to the moon and he's Max Crossby type,

(52:52):
but he has been productive, he has had moments, he
has had flashes for a guy that came into the
league unbelievably raw only played the position for I believe
three seasons prior in college, including missing a COVID year.
He is not a player that came in as pro
ready as anyone else. And I think that now we're
seeing that just slow progression build up to a point where,

(53:14):
now that he has gotten paid below what you would
have expected him to get or at least any qualifying
head rusher, that's like in contract extension territory that I
think his football, his best football is ahead of him.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
I think we're going to see him continue to shine.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
And I think that the contingency is if that positional
group's investment all the D line actually pays off, Rousseau is.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
The one that eats the most.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
And if you have a Joey Bosa that's able to
generate pressure on the opposite side of Rousseau, that's already
going to be an automatic. If you're creating interior pass rush,
that's already going to help him. There are these things
set up to get the best out of group and
groot himself potentially taking a step forward. In addition to
those pieces, I think there's so many variables that just
can lead to him succeeding. And again, the Ryan Nielsen

(53:58):
piece that I said earlier that I just need to
keep stressing how big of an addition that was to
this d line room, Ryan Nielsen is going to help
this defensive line get more creative, disguise things more, get
more magical when it comes to the gaming, and I
think that's also going to help Russell if you're talking
about winding them up out why it is a wide
rusher and then all of a sudden, there's a twist
in the interior and Russell's got a clear way into

(54:20):
a quarterback. Like all these things are possible now, more
likely now, and I'm really really excited to see it.
So that's just why I had him at number one,
and Mike, I think you're number one because you're such
a great guest. Thank you for putting up with just
hearing my voice and not seeing me. I apologize for
everyone who is seeing this episode after the fact and
wondering when did you go to the void? Joe, I
don't know. I really have no idea why this happened.

(54:42):
I'm gonna have to troubleshoot after relyve. But again, the
people that listen on the audio platforms do not care
because they just love hearing me yapp without seeing my face.
Totally totally understandable. But Mike, you are a great guest.
I appreciate you joining me before is yours. I want
you to plug anything you got going on. Where can
the good people find you? What are you working on?

(55:02):
Take it away?

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Yeah, you guys can find me on Twitter at Mike
Underscore Bunt Part train Rec Sports. We have a lot
of stuff going on with the Bills and Sabers going forward.
You'll see me at training camp. I'm supposed to be
at seven practices. We'll have some limited access as well.
So excited to throw some content your way. And like

(55:27):
I said, big things happening at train Rec Sports. Approaching
fifty thousand followers on Instagram and really all over the place,
So we are trying to get yourself the most unique
Bills and Sabers coverage possible on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter.
So hope you guys follow along and enjoy the ride.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yes, check out Mike's work, check out everything going on
over at train Rec Sports.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Those guys are awesome.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
A few of our own that have been here in
the network over there now and it's great to see.
And Mike's an awesome person to talk to, but also
a great follow and someone that works his tail off
to give you good content and puts up with the
Sabers season, which that's more admirable really than anything else.
But Mike, thank you again for me. If you could
see my face, I'd be smiling, but you can't, So

(56:13):
you're just going to listen to my words when I
say that. My name is Joda Rosa and you can
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Speaker 3 (56:35):
Whenever I post it, check it out.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
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And I have to plug this for our boy, Chris Chause.
Check out Chris's Fantasy Football guide. He just released it.
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as how he showed it to us. And the dude

(56:59):
puts war into every single thing, and you are going
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and purchasing it from our network. Chris does amazing work
for that Fantasy football channel, so please check it out.

(57:22):
But that's the end of this conversation. Again, great having you, Mike.
I hope you all have a wonderful rest of your day.
We will see you soon. Training camp is just around
the corner. Get excited. Football is almost back. But for
tonight we rest waiting for one more day to come.
And in the meantime, I have nothing else to say.
Take care everybody, enjoy the rest of your night.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Go Bills.

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