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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome everybody to another episode of an Educated MMA.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm your host with the most squander bread. Welcome, everybody.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome, Yeah, yeah, glad to be surrounded by a couple
of dudes that are here already and excited to talk
about MMA. As always, I got my co host to
the right or to the left, I don't really know.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I gotta make the l's RG yeah, it don't even
I don't know. Man, I feel like you look that
way or this way. It's the same difference. All right.
I'm gonna take it worth from this, and I gotta
I gotta notice just now that this justin justice right here.

(00:40):
I'm out here. I feel like I get a lot
of like wand jokes.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
So I feel like I got to come up with
corny jokes for other people, but it doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
The same people come at me justice. I know. That's
pretty much all I got, so it doesn't really count.
That's right. I'm out here.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's why I human vision. I use wanderbread. I feel
like I gotta own it. And this week we have
been blessed.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
So if you guys, if you guys watch, if you
guys watched eight o six the show and also if
you're around in the sale community, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Our guests here. Obviously you already see him on camera hopefully.
You know, we're getting a lot of good switches here,
getting the good lighting. You feel me, And we got
our guest here, Cooky.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Like I slept here. I was just here.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
We were here the other.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Day and I was sitting behind the production booth when
I found out that you were an MMA fan and
immediately I had to interrupt Ato six the show to
ask you a very important question that obviously we'll go
into depth later. It is John Jones versus steep A
miochis now before you answer, obviously we'll get into that
a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Just you know, I found that out and immediately I
had to get you on. So I'm glad you came.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Here and get glad of me, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, man, like I listen, we started this show a
couple of I feel like months ago. Now almost in
the year. I don't know, I know, man, Timmy just
flying ye acts. I mean it's already November. It's almost
Christmas time.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Mariah Carey thought out, I'm been hearing all I want
for Christmas is you already I saw.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Brought Christmas is coming on, so yeah, like, oh god,
it's coming.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
We started the show and I pretty much just said
open invite to anybody and everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Not the pause.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Cont Yeah, we try to try to talk over it.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
We let that first one got rough start pause. But yeah,
we started this.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
We started the show and I said open invite to
anybody and everybody that wants to talk m m A.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
And obviously here we are fulfilling it. We had a
few fighters on here, but you know, we want to
have some people that just want to talk about the sport,
just casuals, you know what I mean, just get cracking.
So now to get us started. I've been waiting for
this card for so long. I just it's just some
moments as a fan where you get real sad and
just your life and things don't go the way you
want to go. Let it out, bro. So we're gonna

(02:53):
talk about UC three eight.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
We're going to talk about the fact that our boy
Max got chaoed.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Time.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Oh my god, listen, I'm over here, like actually never
even got knocked down.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
He thought, justin gage that was light work. And they
taste him up for twenty five minutes and then he
knocked him out. Let's go. I don't know. It's just
like he's doing such a good job this fight too.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
He was, but I tell him the danger ya, I
honestly I was. I wasn't on the hype train yet
but to pour you up. But ye know I thought
that not got to VOCX.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah that's your problem, a problem, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Bro, he's the real dude.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
He said, you'll give voc another shot?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, he said he's got it. He was too humble
to with it. So I see him doing it. That's
that's the next It has to be the next one,
for sure. It has to be a remax. What I
gotta be.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I feel like it's gonna happen if you look at like,
who who's up next? I mean, first of all, he
already talked a lot of like I'm not giving you
a shot.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I'm not giving you a shot. Meanwhile, voking the max
for the next two up. I think he he'll probably
either fight Volcan next or Diego Lopez. Diego Lopez is
up NeXT's definitely really just fight Lopez. I'd rather if
he wants to give it to the new guys, you shouldez.
I feel like vote you know.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
A Lopez Holloway the bo title me.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
That would be well we got we got some interesting
news earlier this week, I think a few days ago
that Max has said, you know what, forty five, I
appreciate everything.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
You know for me. Five here we come. So and
then he called out somebody right away, mister Dustin, I
should be a blood bath. You want to rematch. He
wants to take that one back.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
He wants to take that one back both BMF. Why
not put it up on the top. He wants to retire,
so might as well. He wants a big fight for
his you know, send off party. That could be your
last right, there would be.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
A great one retire man. Hopefully not. Did he lose
the b m F. It was just the champions. It
was talking like, oh, they put them both up, but like, nah,
I agree with you both clearly about one. So he
did buy one and he brought it to the press conference.
I don't know that it doesn't expensive right, like seven,

(05:09):
We'll get one right here.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
The one that we purchased. The find a little bit
more facts, There is a little bit more this.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I looked at those replica belts and I was like,
you guys don't like the fans. What's going on? This
is why does this cost so much?

Speaker 1 (05:22):
You look at the ticket prices, you look at the
merch that they sell, It's like, yo, who has this
money right now?

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Like what's going on? That's why you don't see nobody
with no march from.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
No every now and then you see somebody.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
But this is the super die hard.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah. To be also fair though their merch is kind
of kind of trash.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
My biggest complaint, and I've said this, I think every
time we've watched the fights is always like, yo, they
need better jerseys. I would I would love to get
like Parreira jersey or something like that, if it was
like a better look.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Because it just looks like like rebox.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Personalize them with being the sponsor, they will have some
flys on they give you.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
They gave you the shorts that they fight and I'm
not where am I wearing that? To? Where am I wearing?
Give me a jersey?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
The Glass Building nineteen. I got the building like Tea jerseys,
like God, but never forgot it was like one wash.
It was wrapt Building nineteen.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
It was the first time I seen Mike Tyson in
building nineteen on a little TV bro on a little
one of the vendors. You just like to that fight
Alex Lewis, Mike Tyson, damn qu I have seen that's
full circles. Now look at you're talking about fights on
the podcast Crazy. That's the one where Tyson lost yea,

(06:43):
yeamn crazy. So I never really recover I see, I
didn't see the good part. Did never recover a documentary.
I think Max moving up to fifty five is going
to be good though. You guys got a lot of
opportunities to fight up there with the whole b MF belt,
the it seems like everybody's on the same page. That's
what that's saved for the legends. That's save for the

(07:04):
guys who have been in the gunfights, went to the
wars that you know.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
What you're gonna get. It's not like how are they
going to fight? It's like, no, you know they're going
to stand in the middle. They're gonna starting at each other.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
I'm gonna sound like a hater. I think once that
I got it took away from it.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I get you. I get you because they weren't exciting.
Afterwards he did the Ben asker and everybody was like,
oh my god. And then the b MF. Even that
fight ended up in an injury, right, it was the
cut that it was the cut stoppage.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
And then after that, I mean, he got knocked out
by blanking usman. He got knocked out by usman. But
he was he was joking around in that fight. Bro. Yeah,
he wasn't taking a serious adult He was like counting
them and then doing stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
They know that there it's over for them and they're
just trying to like seem like it's nothing.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
But then that one two got him. It happens all
the time, Bro.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I think he's recovered yet he has recover for that.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Absolutely not. I mean, well, now he's out of his
own promotion doing bare knuckle mm A, so he's he's
he's doing this thing. I'll still watch every now and then.
I like him as a person.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I mean, he came up with the Kimbo slice era.
That's how they did it.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
So Miami bro.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Savage savages back there, even bare knuckles crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I want to agree to that. It was a bare
knuckle boxing event the other day and the guy who
was fighting his face physically got rearranged in the ring,
like his nose was that way, his chell this way.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
That's why I'm good, Yeah, whired differently, if you choose
to take that as a career, paid for that.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I need to eat today. I'm about to go fight
someone for something We're not going to be able to
eat afterwards. Pizza we're talking about. I'm about to do
a backyard fight. Hopefully I get a couple of hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
You never had pizza in the.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
To the casino, Bro, Just fighting stuff is crazy. Look
at look at a Robert Whitaker. The way his teeth
ended up after Hamside.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
That Joe wasn't apparently his jaw so at first it
was was broken. Now it's not that it was his
jaw was He just always had bad lower te Either way,
they ended up like this one worst.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I can't. I can't. I saw the photo and I
was like, oh, his front teeth got pushed.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
It was crazy. Well, now he's gonna get it fixed.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I don't think he's fighting no more. Bro, after that injury.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
There's been a couple of fighters that have come back
with brand new teeth, like dar Until has some shiny,
pearly whitest.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Right, it'll go fu. They'll come back into that.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Talking about eyes. Is it true about the bullet though,
that he really can't see.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
From the eye, No, he can't.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
He got he.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Got the this thing. Yeah, so we were talking about
this on a few episodes ago. I think that he
legally can't fight in the US, so he has to fight.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
No commission is going to allow them.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
No, But then it's like, have you become champion. It's
the same thing with hams a visa issues or whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
It may be. Affiliates.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
You know, he can't really fight in the US like that,
So it's like affiliates if you become champions, everybody got
to go over there?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Like what are we talking about? Like terrorists? I mean
you said, I don't know. There's some photos on the internet.
You look, I don't know, trouble. There's a few people
that went out fighters legit, they got flew out by
some people. You know, I mean that oil money go along, man,
I don't know. Oil money is crazy. Yeah, I don't know, man,

(10:18):
But there's a few of those fighters, like they straight
up that you only see them on the cards, and
you wonder why the huge stars but you only see
them when they go there. They won't even let them listen.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Bro, get the porto real quick.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
That's crazy. A lot of the fighters over there, Yeah,
they fight over there. They don't really come over with
true visus. Are crazy, bro, Wow, way too dangerous. When
more stuff was popping off in the war, what's this
a Russian fighter who had to leave go straight back
to dude? It was the boxer. Yeah, yeah, there was.

(10:52):
It was a click. They went and they found Yeah,
it was like with the Ukraine War. They went. They mean,
I think I guess it's still active, but yeah, they
went and they served. He did the thing. Wow, that's
even crazier. And then you come back and you take
a fight this wild.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, I just blew up a few heads, come back
and fight.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I'll be right back for my country.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Now you hold my rife, I'll be back crazy.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
That's an like an added level.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
It's like in Los Anthony, he's like former French like
special forces. I feel like you hear that and like
the resume, you're like, I don't know about that, man,
I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
It's like one thing you're like, yeah, he's trained. His
whole life is like yeah, but he probably killed people. Yeah,
he's this guy is knock people out in the gym.
This guy has bodies I don't.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Know about exactly.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
I don't know people and assassinated people. I don't think
he'll stop with the ref I think you might still
keep going. I don't know about trust that. Once you
hear that, you're like damn. But then it's like he's
French likes I was like the French hope, I think, and.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Then against the French back, it's like it's like, oh wait.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Wait, Sarah gun the frenchip yo.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
You know, they get more names out there, but they're
not doing, you know, the best. I think the women's
division is the only one. I think, what's your name?
I'm go want to get this one wrongnan Phireau. I
think it's her name. She's the only one that's like,
she's like title contention. She might get that belt. You know,
France might have a champion soon.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Sounds like she's about to come up with like a
new wine or something that name. You're welcome, Yeah we will.
We will see what happens at the Olympics. Big Robert though,

(12:49):
we get serious and yeah, let's get serious. Was insane,
bro I think it's gonna be over that soon.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
It was gonna be quick easy.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Didn't break a sweat Robert Whittaker. I'm not going straight
for the tackle. It's kind of crazy because he beat
Robert Whittaker. Give this man a title shot, but just
kind of like dominate the whole. Like you see that beard, Bro,
you next episode, I'm coming in.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
You see your fairy hat?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
You can't even.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
You see that very hat?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Shake listen.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I have this theory and a lot If you see
somebody come out and they got a funny hat or
any sort of hat, they're winning, bro, don't care.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
It doesn't matter what it looks like.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
They come out in the hat, and they come from
any sort of like like Eastern European country.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I don't know. Man, you're in for a rough night.
You're for a rough night.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
But you think catapults him to the title.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
There was a lot of questions going into this fight
of whether or not he even is still good. Yeah,
I mean even they should. So here's here's my thing.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
If we're going with who who gets it next, it
should be strick And we're going with rank where it's
going with Strickland. Now, here's a trick when it comes
to UFC, because we always get into this argument of
like is this going to be a sport or is
this entertainment? It's weird mikes of both. We want entertainment.
You go Hamza. That's the money fight right there. Definitely
the Yeah you want what's right, you go with Strickland. Now,

(14:32):
Strickland arguably might have beaten him in their last fight.
Obviously the DDP got the belt, the judges went with him.
It was a close one.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, after this, Dame people are still back and forth.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
It was it was that's what I'm saying, Like you,
that is the right choice to make. But if we're
going with like a business decisions, who's gonna rake in money?
Because you know, can't go anywhere else and make them
fight for the title. And I don't think DP is
going to care if it's not in his backyard. He'll fight.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
He'll fight anyway.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
He gained some respect. I'm not gonna lie. I was
a bit of a hater, not on the Izzy train,
just in general. I watched a few of his fights
leading up. He didn't really like do anything for me,
Like I felt like his like promo talk was just
kind of like whack, And then in ring performance wasn't
the best.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
He just kept gassing out and apparently he got that
nose fixed and he became a world beater.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
He's choking out a breathing help. Oh. Every time something
happened there was like some sort of excuse, and you
can never tell, like are you being real or are
you just being a coach and you're covering for your fighter.
So when the coaches come out there like, oh, no,
he's good, you know what I mean? Those things can't
really breathe at I'm like, you're throwing statistics I've never
heard of. And then he goes and he gets the surgery,

(15:39):
comes back.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
A whole new person person.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Maybe he was right, maybe it's right different, but he
gets some respect.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
So I'd rather see him versus Hams Eye, even though
the Strickland fight is there.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
But then DDP is over here chirping at Alex Pereira
trying to.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Move up to two Live, which is like, leave Alex alone.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
It's not even Alex. I'm sick and tired of these
champions trying to move up after one fight. Yeah, defend,
you get your kingdom of and then.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
You move on to move your claim, but like people
just want that big money fight like relax.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
People just want to collect them belts quick, like already
got this belt, you get another belt. I mean, the
thing is like people this, I guess the sport is
kind of small, so like there's only so many huge
things you can do to kind of change the landscape
of the sport and separate yourself from other people. Connor
McGregor is the blueprint right now.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
If you notice everybody in the Grandmother when they're coming
out that like I want to be like Connor or
they try to emulate his tactics the best way that
they can, but not everybody can do so. And then
the whole thing with like the double champ and this
and the third there's like these certain notches like so
now it's like the first three time champion is the
next Who's going to do that?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Whatever it may be. People just want to rack up
and become the greatest of all time exactly. But I
mean my thing is, I feel like you just got
to put the work in in your weight class, prove
yourself there, then you move up just dominate, dominate. Even
in the UFC games, you have to do a couple
of defenses before you can challenge, so like beat the
same people three times.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, but at this point, who do you see it
as a three who could be a three division champ?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Alex moving up to heavyweight, he's got to punch his chance.
I see My issue was right. So so obviously we're
gonna talk about you. We're gonna talk about John Jones versus.
That fight has so many things on it because you
have those two fighting.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Rumors are that both of them are going to retire
the fight. Maybe. I think everyone's kind of confirmed. Steve
a is gonna go. If Jones decides to let his
ego talk and he's like, Tom as I want to
fight you, then we can we can look into that. Now,
John Jones's champ, I don't think he's gonna call anybody out.
He's gonna I don't think he's gonna retire.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
He's just gonna be well no, because it's not it's
not even half to call anybody out the interim champ.
There's another person the heavyweight with a belt and his
name is Tom and you got him.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
It can only be one belt, it can only be one.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
But that's my thing, is that either either John Jones
or Tom aspinall is going to be a problem for Alex,
Like they're gonna be a.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
That's that's the one that everybody wanted, be crazy.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I'll be a good one.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
But Alex himself was like chirping a DDP because he
wanted to move back down to five. He was like, listen,
I'd rather him go down so that he can like.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, but the day of his fight, he gained like
twenty something. You don't see what rites back.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I think he's like he's like six four. Watch around
two twenty something entry for a heavyweight to t twenty five.
I say he fights a little bit longer, maybe a.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Year or two, and then he does the John jone
move and he just builds slowly up, gets to comfortable weight,
maybe another ten twenty pounds heavier, and then he fights
a heavy way. But like you, like I said, you
watched around a two twenty something, so you just have
to get to where you're like comfortable and strong. But
like the takedown is the issue when it comes to
John Jones or to Tom aspinall stand up. I think
he can he can do his thing.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I'm trying to see, like Alex go against one of
these yes, sir, it's a good it's a good thing.
You got a micro h now you're good, You're good.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, Ah, Don Jones vis Perrera would be like, if
you're gonna Don versus Kobe and the championship.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's similar to what he's saying, but Mayweather and Paca,
you know, would that be Lebron Kobe in the championship?
So who's Kobe? So this is this is this is
this is the.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Old Yeah, John Jones is the older one, he's Kobe
and Lebron James the new guy coming in, but he's
winning ship. That's Alan Crrero.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
I feel like that makes sense then, yeah, because it's
the guy you would consider to be the greatest of
all times. So whoever you consider to be the greatest
of all time, this is the guy who's just yeah,
just want to make sense? Doesn't make sense? Good? Like,
oh at different?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Would that be like an Evander and Tyson fight holy
Field Tyson holy Field coming out like holy Field being
aspinall and then Tyson being Jones. I can see that, Like, oh.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
But they're like so because like because really, you gotta
be a die hard fan to know who Aspat is.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
You gotta be.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
A even though he has a gold right now like
anybody you.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Say, Tom, like what what actor is that your?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
And if you if you watch you see any time recently,
you'll know who Alex.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Is exactly like those are two known folks.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Big superstars. A. This is more like the old goat
coming up and so it's more like.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
It's tough to I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Look Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
And yeahello was coming up?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
You see.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, that's a better right there, that's a better way.
Canelo coming up. He could put asthma as being the
Canelo and then.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I know Mayweather wouldn't fight Canilo right now though, hell no,
Canelo will fight another Yeah yeah he already do, but
Canelo will take him right now though.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Fifty fifty you know may what my final the whole
you make that crazy money, making that crazy Yeah he is.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Fight a dishwasher tomorrow and make.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
It exactly makes b make another fifty yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Right there fifty seconds say whatever he wants. He can't read,
but man, he's making that money.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
You got to sign that check, bro, I don't have
to read, he said.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
He as you can count. The funniest thing about fifty
said you can read one page of a Harry Potter
book the biggest anybody I love that is like, yeah,
he didn't do it. Yeah, right, he didn't do it,
because if you do it, you look stupid. Give me

(22:20):
any of.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
The book right now, give me great.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Blue fish fish. Yeah. But you said, you said what
we were talking earlier, that you want to see Alex
against one of these be right, just to test his
like a live live beat rackets as we were talking
about last time. If you could beat him that too,
next that's the guy.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I think uncle live gets a shot now to a five. Now, yeah,
I think that that's going to be what's next for Alex.
I don't think he's going to move down or up
in the next flight. I think it's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
But do get this again, I think I think you
think he gets it this time, you get it. You
ain't going to sneak another run.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
I think I think for sure to be like they're
like the kryptonite to all these Superman but.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
No rules, no rules, now you don't sell bro but
still also now rules rules don't albow true albow now
in effect that now they can do twelve to six
that they needs to exactly.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
So I haven't.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
I thought that was a fake page, but I didn't.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Because for sure, but he is asking for that, he
is asking for that one loss to get taken off
the thing. I mean, because it's it's it's a no contest.
It wasn't. Yeah, if they changed the rule because I
thought he was take his record because I'm pretty sure
they counted as a no contest. I think he's still understanding.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
It's it's twenty seven and one for that. Yeah, so
it's it's a loss by technical disqualification. A lot I
had a like this doesn't look like a good sight,
Like it's just because it's something that people have been
talking about, Like let's say announce that this is going
to go into effect, that this is no longer going
to be considered the legal people like, all right, so
then we can retroactively get rid of that loss along

(24:13):
with some other people that have those depends what the
rule was at the time. If that's what the rule
was at the time, Like bros, Just true, because then
does Aljamaine Sterling stay with the championship on his record
or does that get reversed? Well no, because this dude
got him but lost his byneeing him. So we're taking

(24:38):
now and away, what do we do with the title
that way the role at the time, that was the
role at the time, and then we're going with John
Jones does not get the loss what it is because
that was the that was the role at the time. Sure, no, no,
that's fine because if that's the role of the time, time,
it shouldn't have been. I'm saying it's a whack rule,
but that was the role of the time. Sup.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I do think that Alex will be uh. I think
Uncle gets a shot, but I think Alex still beat.
The way I've been seeing Anka fight recently, he's not.
He is one of those dudes, but he's not like
that dude. Yeah, you see the way Islam a tax people,
people rob attack people like those types of rest relentless.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yes, because he is. It's like you see his name,
like you stand up already, right.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I only wanted to watch his fight this on this
paper was because I wanted to see if he won.
Even then with you it was on in the background.
I was over there making a drink or something like that,
and that.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Was the same way.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
Yeah, I was not like, no, I didn't he just
so it's the it's the thing now with with where
Alex is in, I guess what a two of five
where a lot of the challengers are going to be
that Like, let's be honest, like it's the same thing
that like a man and nouna is kind of face
where it's just like what you gonna throw to him now,
that's gonna get murdered, you know, until he decides to

(26:02):
move up or down, because that's what the names are
going to be there.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
But it sounds like he's looking more so to move down,
which I think he'll have bigger names of one eighty five.
And I just I want to know if he'll give
up the belt or he'll try to defend both.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I just feel like, if you're gonna move down, you
gotta have to stay down there for a little bit
and then move back up.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
So maybe you give up the belt to let them
kind of figure.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Out, you know, we're a priful man. He probably keeps
the belt. I'm not giving that up.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Well, Jamal Hill wants his.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Jamal Hill wants his rematch, So that's somebody that maybe
that can happen. But other than that, he's beat everybody else.
That's why they went all the way down to calibround tree. Look,
Cali Rountry did his thing by the way.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
He held his all, but that they had to go
all the way down to eight to try to find
something to fight this man because they didn't want to
give it to Calias.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
That's how he is.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Man.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
You're like, you you got the fights ago, but we're
gonna skip past you four or five times because man,
nobody wants to watch.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's why it's good to have a little bit of both.
You know, it's entertainment and bro. That's the thing with
the That's.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Why it's like weird cells man exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
It's it's stricty with the fighters because you don't want
to like turn them into wrestlers because then if they don't,
they don't back it up in the octagon.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
It's kind of weird because then you get a Kobe Covington.
Kobe coming can be doing too much.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Yeah, sometimes, like the social media presence all the time, you.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Know, you get like, I don't know, what do you
guys consider a Sean O'Malley.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Do you think he's a flop? Nah?

Speaker 3 (27:32):
I'm not under O'Malley hype train.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
So like was like he's the next Connor and then
Morob just walked them.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
With the hats.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
They're gonna take you out no matter what kind of
superstar you are. You could be easy, you could be
anyone in this game. You can be calling. They always
take you out, now, don't you think?

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Do you think he bounces back?

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Though? This is like no, I think he bounces back.
I think he bounces back, but I'm not gonna lie you.
He's got There's a couple of tough dudes up there,
you know what I mean. I don't know who's whole
to fight next.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
I understand like the bad loss, but like a lot
of these UFC legends took a lot of losses, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
They would go like trilogies. But everybody that's great type
show lose.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
He can he could try to rematch Peter Young, Umar
new marka metal.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
I think it's getting a title shot Cory sand because he.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Was like, I'm rados there.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Okay, he moved up, so he's in that way class now.
I mean, I think that was kind of Henry still
eleven kicking. Other than that, man, there's not really like that.
There's a few in there, but they all I think
have to fight of the people. So I think Sean's
gonna be out for a little bit and maybe he'll
fight number another like contender.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
The figured out part, he's gone continue because he was
just a champion, so he just get that. That's what
I'm saying, Like Peter, Peter Jan is number three, so
it's either it's number one of Sean, two is Umar,
three is Peter, number four is Corey, and five is Davidson.
So that's how five he's either fighting Peter or Corey.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Corey Like, if you're.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Great, you can beat everyone else except one guy. It's
all good.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Some people figured was exposed though I don't know he
was exposed in that fight, but you.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Know he was just working on that. I guess. Yeah.
They never Now there's a new rule. That's what I'm saying.
These wrestlers are really dominating. There's a new rule because
that wrestlers bro the knees to the grounded opponent is
what's going to be issues for the wrestlers. Once people
start figuring out how to comfortably do that and understand
when to recognize when to do that, these wrestler are
going to try to go down and they're going to
get a needed.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
It's going to breaking faith to the job.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
But it's also like you got to think about it.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
It's also like in the scrambles when you're trying to
defend against the takedown and you're just like trying to
get off of them.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
In that moment, you could also throw a knee to
their face. So while you're just trying to push off knee,
that's gonna work a little bit better for you.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yes, yes, because one entertainment. Yes, yeah, sure, so.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
There's to be a balance. You see this now, this
huge influx, it's like the same thing that you guys
talk about it now with with like basketball, you see
like a lot of Europeans coming over and you see
this is kind of like flooding of Europeans and whatnot.
It's the same thing now when we see this like
wrestling base a lot of the like if you see
anybody that's from Dakistan, they get this already, this notch
of hype even though it's their first fight in the UFC,

(30:39):
just because they already know what kind of style they're
going to come in with, like what can't be from
But that's why you get no facts. But they can
get shocked when you get the guys that are like
to do with the one eye share a bullet, or
you get the beats and they're throwing spinning heel kicks
instead of the wrestling stuffs and you expect to take
down and they're giving you a flying knee to the mouth,
like holy shit, yeah, you have no idea it's coming out.

(30:59):
But then you get those dudes now where that seems
to be the I think it's always like an ebb
and flow. You see like the different basis take the
thing like when Anderson Silver was at his peak, that
that that kickboxing was crazy, but then tie click tie
jiu jitsu was a huge thing.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Woman, it's becoming like I was showing my age now
back when the he's grazy, the Gray family, he came
from that family.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
It's because it's because nobody, nobody knew about that jiu
jitsu stuff. So that wrestling murder, this dude pajamas, Yeah,
he's choking you out with the bout like what's going on?
Yeah yeah with the crucifix. You're getting woken up, bro,
And that's how you found out what happened.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
What the So now these wrestlers are the new grazies.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's not just like the worst part is not guess
the worst but the coolest part is not just wrestling.
It's sombo wrestling. Like they put that.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
They put that emphasis on it because then they're also
going up against to like US wrestler any day. Anything
put me up against the US wrestler, don't it's bad.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
It's bad. It's the risk.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Joking with your old wrists.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Like you see, maybe like the.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
The Michael Chandler versus the Islam that that would be
your your American wrestling, your US wrestling versus text immediately
what is.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
No matter what, Bro, with the chin down, it's still
gonna face break your freaking job. Yeah that's crazy choke out, bro,
But the way you know it came, it't matter. Bro.
Right here on your eyes, Broy'll just check your out.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah, you get it choked by your old jaw.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
You do that, got to eat with the ivy for
the next week and a half. I'm good man, But
that's what I'm saying, Like, I hope that the people
learn how to use them these to grounded opponent exactly. Well,
the thing I'm not gonna lie someone elbows the elbows
are fighting with helmets in there, in the fact, the
elbows are going to be for the wrestlers because you
got to think about it when they're The whole point

(33:04):
is is like how Melvin brought up is it to
make it a little bit more exciting? It's like, yes,
because you got to think about it this way. Now
it can defend it with a knee. But then at
the same time, instead of you just hugging me for
like the twenty five minutes, you have another tool to
try to finish, which because I've been you know what
I mean, I've been complaining about when they be holding
for too long and not doing anything. So now I

(33:25):
don't know if you've been peeping, but a lot of
the most recent fights, I feel like the refs have
been like your work, work work, Come on, man, sure
you know somebody, I mean they don't they don't say it,
but somebody aside was.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Like, you know what I mean, they know what, like bro,
time to fight, get this up.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
You know, it's pretty wild. I saw. I don't know
why I was thinking about, like the whole helmet in
the in the octagon. Do you guys see like the
they have like the medieval fighting yeah. I was like,
what the heck is it's crazy, bro?

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Something I thought it was faking or something like what
they they start ice hockey?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
One? Ice hockey is crazy? So they it's there's ice
hockey you want so think hockey rink. They're in hockey pads.
They're skating, but they just have like fight. No, no, no,
no ice rink just you know how like the parts
of hockey. Yeah, they just started. It's just that part
they just they just do. That's my favorite. It's the
best part of hock.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
I give them credit. How can you fight on blades?

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (34:27):
It's like you balance.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
You gotta be balanced for sure.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I look at it, like you how you do that?

Speaker 2 (34:33):
So it seems like the first one to get the
jersey over the other guy's had. When you just upper,
that's all you got. You can't get a good punch.
Where are you gonna? No? You no, Like I guess
if ice maybe I'm stick the whole time.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
His name from the Bruins. He was like six nine
and then with the skates he was like seven ft.
So every time you will Covid just grab. He was
like their goon.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
You need that guy, you need that guy against you.
Need to coming full speed and just slamming against the wall.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
I remember I was like, yo, let me try to
learn about this hockey stuff because I didn't know what
was going on. So I downloaded like NHL nineteen or something.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, that's how I played. That was all I did.
I did not pay attention to the buck at all. Yeah.
I slammed somebody and your team wins though, right, that's
all that's all you need to do.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
I remember going to my first game, like you hang
on like dude something Dominican. Yeah what six times after.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I will say this to this, hockey is the most
exciting like sport out of like the major one. It's not.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah when he slams somebody to the boards, bro, it's like,
oh yeah, what's real.

Speaker 8 (35:47):
Game?

Speaker 4 (35:48):
It was like one fight in this corner. I'm like
watching this fight, also another fight over here this. Yeah,
two fights at the same time.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
We're right here.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Like, especially as a rival's two rival teams like, oh forget,
they're gonna go well they're gonna fight.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Bro. If you can add that rule, whether it be
in basketball, baseball, or football, which one would you add
it in? Like you can just scrap for thirty seconds basketball.
You can see Curry fighting fucking one that has to
step in. The one that makes the most sense is basketball.
But I feel like football would be the best football.

(36:29):
It's to drop the helmet on ice. But oh, the athletes, yeah,
the athletes themselves. You know what I'm saying, athletes themselves.
I guess added in baseball then baseball, because baseball baseball.

(36:56):
Here's my thing.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I like the kind of setup theyre having baseball now.
It's like if one was that, everybody gotta do it,
so nobody that's in trouble. I like that rule because
then you just see a full team brow.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
But I have an issue, Like when you're in the bullpen,
bro By time you come running, you know what, memore,
just fight the bullpens with each other, like out there,
you too, You over there, Your big Bobby is running over.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Trying to get over.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
He's got a breathing.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Nobody, old man by Page, we're gonna go with the
Yankee stuff. I can't.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
I shouldn't be there just running in your both and bullpen.
You stay back there, y'all fight that way everybody else.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
You handle business, decide like basically, it's about to be
safe then I would love to see it in basketball.
Football is like they have pads on exactly, break take
it off, they take the hummet off. They both take
the hummet off. Yeah, I wouldn't see him taking that
too many bad. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
It's I think I think baseball will beat it.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
I played football, They've been there been, I guess some fights.
It's a lot of shoving and just kind of like
get somebody down to the basketball clothing. I would love
to see Lebron actually put hands on somebody. Be scary, bro,
he would be. Yeah, it makes sense more I think.
I mean to me, when I think about it, that's
the first sport that I would think it would be
best it was a hard foul. You can think about

(38:27):
it like how many somebody get gets? You know what
I mean, it's too hard. It makes more sense for
that to be like they're gonna fight.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Realistically, what happens in hockey rinker it's just the reps
being like give them time, give the time, let him scrab.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
But remember when basketball is a lot of entourage, a
lot of escalating class.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
I think you call it the unforcer. Like this, he's
gonna play real quick.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, right, allegedly there's a lot of Gang of Any
ships like John around job.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Ready.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
I don't know, Bro, I don't think you want to
go back to school.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
We stick with football. I don't know if I have
to change your name to metal World Peace. The whole
car we have in this car now. So I think
I think we I think we good. Off of the
of the recap for th Real Weight, I think we
we at least I cried a lot, you know, I mean,
so Man, Max and Rob.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
We see two legends relieve Look's episode.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I predicted it.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
I did too, I did to you, and then I said,
this is why I tell people every time when we
try to do like picks and stuff, I don't listen
to me man, because I'm going to a fan where
I can't. Like you know, when you when you have
the one where you're like, I want this guy to win, you.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Know he's not gonna win. He can't. I said, I
wanted Max to win, but I have on my part,
I'm glad. I just wanted I listen. You feed into
the storyline and you like what could be, and then
you get let down every time. Yo. That's why has
let me down a lot.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
How many times like we're just standing in the living pool,
grown men upset at the TV like.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
This Edwards just really happen. Yeah, Bro, like wow, yeah,
but that's why I love it so much. Bro. UFC
is like the only sport like shocking. You can't tell,
you can't who's the superstar like you just said, like
it's really though, it's the Leon Edwards, Kamorawusman twenty four

(40:37):
minutes and thirty seconds of greatness and those last thirty
seconds changes it all. Bro, I've be jumping off my
couch like crazy. Bro, like no other sport like trust me,
I love basketball. I watched it all my life and everything.
But once you see a crazy knockout like that, oh right,
especially when you got like yeah exactly, when it's the

(40:58):
main events and stuff like that, that's what we really
get into it. Speaking the main events. So, Bro, I
wanted to talk to you about this corner so I
know you have. I feel like one DC so anytime
we're talking about John Jones.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
So so we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna obviously we're
gonna kick off this this year C three or nine.
Normally I asked whether we want to start with with
the first fight of the Night of the Last one time.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
But we're definitely gonna start So John Jones versus Steeping
Have you figured out who Steeping Chitch is yet? I have?
He literally did not know who this man was a
couple of episodes. He's been ding the stats in the
back for five years. Yeah, I'm back, come back, But

(41:46):
a lot of catching up to do. Game of Thrones
is great. I don't know if you've seen it, Yeah,
breaking back the last season. Catch I'm still catching up.
You've seen the Wire. I don't know. The five years
ago could have been any time sit on DVD, bro. Yeah,
there's been way more than This is my second watch.
It's a great show on season two. Honestly, season two
the second time around better than the first time.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
I thought you rewatches little things like.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Why it had to be while it was there? For sure,
for sure everybody hated that season. But it's like, man,
I don't think it's one of the better ones. But
I don't. I definitely think it's like it's a good one.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
It's storyline too. It prepares us for season three exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
It's a much needed going back to three, and I'm
not gonna lie to you. I started watching that show
and I started thinking of like, I could do this.
I'll let you decide which side I'm thinking about anyway,
So we're.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Gonna side this, John Jones, Stephen, let's get it.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
So I think this is gonna be a very interesting
fight because I think on this one, no, you know,
you don't know, you don't know I can go which way?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Oh you know you don't know? So my thing with
this one the only complaint compliment you've ever given Jones.
I know, no, no, no, what do you mean? What
do you mean? You know what I mean? Yeah? So,
so my thing with this fight, right, you can go
one of two ways. Right, Either I guess one of
three ways. We're either going to see John Jones finally
in his form of heavyweight, and we're gonna get to
see an actual good fight instead of whatever happened there

(43:11):
with Cyril Gun that was like not as well, Zero
is a good fighter, but no he is. But it
felt like a minute and thirty seconds of not really
seeing what John Jones like heavyweight was. So that's why
I'm like, we still don't really know. No, wait, well
if you've known his last fights, but then again he
has long got worse, so long exactly because you have
to understand it's again if you could just walk in
quick thirty seconds, but you don't, that's why they sleep.

(43:36):
What else I got, That's what I'm saying, Like you
don't know what happened with Cyril Gun that night. You
don't know what you don't you don't know. Also like
like I don't know, man, Like there's no I feel
like it wasn't a test when you move up and
wait and I want to see at least at least
at least ten minutes, give me, give me two rounds,
at least two rounds of let's see you on the

(43:57):
scene on the ground. I got kind of like move.
I just want to see what it looks like, especially
because with John Jones, you have to remember it was
like a two or three year layoff. Then he came
back to heavyweight for a minute and thirty seconds, and
now it's been a year.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
It has been like two years in the making.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, it just comes down to if he in the
gym or if he not in the gym, right, But
there's only That's my thing is also like you could
be in the gym, like Connor McGregor clearly is in
the gym and also in a lot of other places
maybe who knows what he who knows what's he goes by?
The head wife was right there. Yeah, wow, boy boy,
yeah man, but you will be here. Yeah, you look

(44:35):
at me in the gym all the time. But like
then you get the ring rust. So that's another part
of it. Now here's my thing on the other side
of the coin steep and Milchi has been done for
fourteen years. However, like he's been out the last time
I so long. I haven't even seen him yet. Last
time I saw him, he was getting sent to the
shadow round by one Francis and Gano. That's the last
time I saw crazy.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
That's what he's up there. So that's I'm really ain't
that too excited.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
One of three ways. Either one we're going to see
two old ass men fighting. Two we're going to see
two old as men that are surprisingly still like great
at the sports.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
One of them is going to be a beast and
the sad. I'm still going for Jones all day.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Because he's a fireman.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah listen, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Kind of the consensus is probably going to be John Jones,
But like Steep the underdogs, he's still the first man
and knockout John Jones.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Wouldn't that be sound? And then retires?

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Talk about a happy ending.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, it just puts it back in the whole just
walks out.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
That's it. I'm out.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
That's what I'm saying about feeding of the story because
stuff like that is like a couple of dollars Steep
two weeks.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
We've seen upsets and legends.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
So I don't know, man, what do you what do
you call it? When it's two legends? Right? You throw ten?
I throw seven. I'm putting everything else on Jones. Jones
is probably the most dangerous. What do you think the
odds are? What do you think the odds are? Now?
What do you think ste saiting that plus what plus

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four hundred?

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Five hundred?

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Nah, he's probably like what plus two?

Speaker 3 (46:19):
I think a five hundred fifty?

Speaker 1 (46:21):
You were writing the money of four hundred Jones was
minus five thirty five? Man, Wow, lamb a slaughter is
what they're thinking right now.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, I went through a little bit of.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Steep brod Yeah right, fact, hold up, even he's had
even longer to adapt to the heavyweight.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
I'm not mistaken. You throw twenty dollars, that's what eight hundred.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, right, and it's heavyweight and heavy way you better
step on them toes. I'll do it just because.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yo, it's a it's a heavyweight fight. One point, that's
all it takes.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
All it takes. Man, he's beating DC. You know what
I mean. He's been in the game for a while,
right man, he's got a good records record he has
being Francis twenty and four right now, that's a good record.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
I still take that.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I mean, problems for a hundred year it's undefeated.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah, without the l this qualification that would.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Have got changed by the council be Francis Junior, those Santos.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
And step.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Oveream Yeah, all those people in the game. The game
clarifying information doesn't need to be brought up, right.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Now, Steep plus four hundred bad right, I'll take those chances.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
I think I would hate to see it though. He
could pull up from definitely, but that's the thing with
any of it.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
But not if I bet on him. Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Catch out eight hundred, yeah, you throw a twenty yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
John Jones will be all.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Right, all right.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
At paying my bills right now, you'll be all right?
Swung the whole podcast the way I mentioned everyone. John
Jones is not that good, but I never said that
John Jones is to go. I'm still putting some money
on Jones, but out quick twenty show, Steve Bay. I
might send him a later right now, Yo, yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Yeah, you better win this like you fire man your card.
You gotta beat I know where you gotta have redacted redacted,
but that would be ideal story though Big John Jos
and then retired and then.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Retired talking about heavyweight champion. Bro really everyoney change. You
see what King last because it was up to nowadays
everyweight champion right now.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
I think King his gangster is.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Again.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
I thought he was out is.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
No, but he's out on I think probation right now?
What is he really? Yeah? Same thing that I know
why he did what? All right? I'd do it too.
I would. Here's the thing. There's a lot of there's
a lot of alleged alleged titles highlights, alleged shooting, alleged

(49:23):
over over.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
There's certain words I can't use. There's alleged alleged shooting,
over alleged assaults of varying natures.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Of of of minor one.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
On the niece. All right, so you got to do pretty.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Much the the like like one of the uncles or
like one of the dudes in the family was touching
king Velass his niece and he was just like no.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
So then he did after him and.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Was basically like a drive by shooting, but chasing him
in a car while the other guy was in another car.
Open in public was more so the issue rather than
like him showing up to the ice house.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
And enraged getting pempover bro. It was the fact that
it was in public. There are people in the streets,
and it's like, no, listen, a single person heard what happened.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
It was like, oh, I get it.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
You know you're not wrong. You know want know those
straight bullets hands somebody. That's the issue. That's why it's like,
all right, we gotta you know what I mean, give
you a little boo boo and put you in for
a little time out or something like that, because you
can't be doing that out in the public, like if
you pulled up to the man's house. But we get,
we get why whatever. They'll be messing with these heavyweights. Yeah,
you learn who step and in his Japanese tattoos on

(50:34):
his back. Bro watch your house getting fired like I
need Steve, I got him right, all human?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah, I hope we get at least at least one
round so I can at least watch John Jones as
a heavyweight and then from there both of them go
out in the sunset.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Now, what do we think? Because we all think I
think Steve retires John Jones? Is he retired? If he
wins easily, like if it looks like Steve would put
like the brakes on him and he like won by
the decision, he most likely would retire. But if he
wins like easily, like with Cyril Gun or like in
the first two rounds, n he'll probably do it again.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Uh, I think he retires. I don't think he wants
to see as he knows that will be the next one.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Retirement for retirement and nobody trying to see because I think.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
He's gonna what two more years we're gonna wait for
that fight he's gonna have to go.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I think that one would be a quick turnaround.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
I think, if anything, this is what I think, right,
because this is November fight Steve Bay, Let's say it's
tsy it's smooth get a big injuries at the beginning
of the second quarter of next year, so like we're
looking at like Mayish or so or they put him
on ice and they fight in June at International Fight Week,
their next big event in the end of June, and

(51:57):
they throw they throw Jones in the sphere again crazy
just to have another huge fight, throw bag his way
the world. But the thing is the ego in the competition.
He like, this guy's already exactly at you. He's holding
the other belt like I don't know there's a world
exactly because it's like, bro, if he comes out healthy,

(52:18):
like he doesn't get too injured in this fight, I
feel like he will do it.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I think that Alex fight would would would be more
of him being like, oh for sure, I'll stay. He
might wait and see who wins between them two, because
you know he will wait. I don't think that they're
going to book Alex versus Time whoever. So here's another
thing is that if Alex moves, who would fight next
then if if if he doesn't fight Jones, I guess.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
She's not like boxing. That's a mandatory right. If Jones
would have When if Jones wins, he doesn't mandatory have
to fight Asma, so he.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Would Yo, you're not wrong. He did be Cyril Gonner Vokov.
They're sitting at two and three. He already beat Pavlovich,
and he's sitting at four and Curtis plays and he's
sitting at five. So it's vow call Ceil Gun. Yeah,
has to redeem him. So I have a delicious crazy
though I can't believe he lost both days. Notice, man,
you got off that couch and knock that boy out.

(53:10):
He not that Russian clean out smooth. He did bro
twelve days off the couch or you know what, he's
injured and injured.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
John Joe says, you know what, forget it, Dana, I'm
gonna fight a gun we never seen. He went, He's
not going back to you across promotion, would.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Go ahead, do it, could do that. Dana was like,
this is going to be the deal. I'm going to
make one hundred percent of the profit and then get
one hundred percent of your profit for the next six months.
But you get the hype from this fight, that's what
you get. That's all. Unless he gets some crazy things
like that he's not doing he will fact, So that's why,

(53:59):
that's what you know. So with that, with that, you
know who, you know who it would be.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
It wouldn't be the PFL, It'd be Turkey Ala chic
in that Abu Dhabi money, the ones that's putting on
all these fights.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Right now, I'm gonna get both of these holding holding
his hand, Come here, walk with me.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Let me take this.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
He'll bring them both in the room. He'll sit down.
Listen this this much writing. Write a number on the
piece of paper.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
That could be the curb ball.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
We don't know.

Speaker 9 (54:29):
That's probably because that would be let at least next
at least as a recent right, Dana White has been
on this whole rampage of like obviously Francis has been
in the news with him in his recent fight and
everything that's been happening.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
So they asked him Dana at these press conferences, like, hey,
what do you think about this recent win or what
do you think about this about Francis whatever it may be,
And Dana has nothing but negative things to say. He
is he went from like we decided to go our
separate ways to just being a straight up and that's.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
I put Frances up there because he did it his way,
not your slave. You know I'm gonna do it my way.
I gotta give him respect for that. You didn't he
wasn't no puppet.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Oh yeah, we didn't even bring up the lineup for today.
So the lineup today is brought to you. I gave
him the cards. I told him pick and you give
me the story.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Give me the story. What made you go with who
you shot?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Like I say he did on his own terms, beast
gotta go with Spider Anderson Silver like ye like. When
I started watching mm A was about Anderson Silver and
kind of upset. I was looking for Matt Hughes, but
it wasn't Matt Hughes. Those were my favorite guys until
Iceman came him in the Cotur fights. What crazy. I

(55:39):
think the best female that m m A Amanda Noon
is we might see you return from her soon.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
For some odd reasons, I've been a big only Bed fan,
but I mean this.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Is this is number two on the on the car.
We haven't We're.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Right here in boxing purposes. I tore a guy. He
was my favorite because he brought it all the time.
So I feel just in Gaichee, it's my m m A.
The Gotti of m m A. So that's my lineup, inspect.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
I like Gaich bro.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Yo right, because you know you're gonna watch a fight.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
He was gonna bring it right. Yeah, man, I'm about
to watch some SCE.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
So I feel like is like you're gonna see blood,
you're gonna watch.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Get smoke, b F boom, like those guys that go
to war, those guys when you just see the name,
you're gonna tune in because you know what you're gonna
get that.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
You can't blame because you're gonn miss the knockout. So
that's that's my starting six straight.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Highlight, bro Dog, that's a perfect pick lineup. Man. I
like the line up. So I feel like it's cool
to see we gotta we're gonna get a people to
pick them and see how they go. So's intriguing to
see what fighters people pick a bro nothing Jones, go ahead,
bring it, break it down. Number two. So number two,
So this one's gonna be an interesting one. Right. We

(56:59):
got mc gregor versus Michael Chandler was supposed to happen
like didn't happen. So then eventually they got pushed along,
push along, push along. Winers is it gonna happen. You know,
we're not gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Instead, we're gonna do it at some point later on,
but right now, we may give these guys a refresher course.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
So, Michael Chandler, who do you want to fight? He's like,
give me a title shot.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
They're like, not a title shot?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
About to give me Conor McGregor. You can't give me
a title shot, not a title show. We're gonna pay
you a lot of money to take a fight in
the meantime. So here's a list of guys. I'm so
so he decides. He looks at the guys, he goes,
who do I want to get now? He has guy A,
guy B and guys see. He looks at all three,
he goes, you know what I already found, already fought
guy be, guys see, I think will get me that

(57:45):
title shot. And I lost the guy see and guys,
it was it was a close fight. He was, he
was good in the beginning, but it's it didn't close
too close. But he still lost because you know what
who he fought. You know who he fought. He got
a champion. He got a champion, and the champion, as
an name, is Charles du Bronx.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
But I know, I know, I know, I know, I
know a lot of bias around, but this guy is
my guy. Like when I started watching, like this is
this is that guy?

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Like he was just a monster. He just wants it
like I've heard the because like like I tell this
all the time, I watched like a few years ago
when I started watching, but like maybe like five or
six at this point.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
But I never knew that he was in the UC
for so long. So I went back and watched a
couple of his old go it was been there, He's
been there for a while. But it is crazy to
see that he was honestly on his way out of
the UFC because he was doing so poorly. And then
nowhere from the story that has been told, he had
his daughter, and since he had his daughter, he got
that Papa strength. And then now he's been on a tear,

(58:46):
got the title, lost the title back In the title picture,
he's fighting Michael Chandler and boy came who.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Lose to last fight? Just say, wy say for the
people who knows you're the guess what you have to guess?

Speaker 3 (59:01):
And I heard yourself.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Breaking jaws. Bro Come on, I just want to see
if you can remember the last name he's fighting Islam next,
Armin Seroukian. That's my guy, listen, and that and that

(59:29):
that was doing pretty decent, bro. He was he was doing.
I think if that fight was and this is the
annoying thing to say, but I'm gonna say it anyway.
That fight was five rounds. Charles had the one in
the bank. That decision was bs exactly was I call it.
It wasn't a robbery. I call it a petty theft
because you can guess, you know, you can give it

(59:49):
to the other guy. I guess I'm gonna call it
a petty theft. But I think that he should have
won that. The fact that he had this man in
the guillotine and had his pants below his ankles during it.
Mel yeah, yeah, pause that pause real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
But the fact that the fact that he had him
like that and I think he I think he was
beating him. I think he should have won that one.
So I think with this one, it's kind of it's
gonna be the same thing for both of them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Winner.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
If this fight gets a title shot now when I
don't know, because Islam has to fight arm On next
and then they will figure out who's going to be
the champion, who.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Gets it next year for sure, for sure towards the year.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
But I like that this is both going to be
a number one contender fight. But I guess the stipulations
with Michael Chandler is going to be win or lose,
you still get Connor if you want him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
So I guess if he wins, he's big up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
I think it's gonna happen, the Ultimate Fighter, all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Like just talking. You know what I just realized, and
this annoys me even more. That Michael Chandler beats Charles,
Michael Chandler, Michael Chandler fights whoever wins against armand and Islam.
Michael Chandler beats them, gets the title. He gets next
fight is Connor McGregor champion. That would be the craziest bro.

(01:01:06):
You know, man, Bro, If anyone you think I give
John Jones grief, cordonor McGregor, get him out of here. Bro,
you think I get anybody grief, it's that man, Bro.
Connor Gregor has been nothing but a disappointment the entire
time I've seen him fight. Bro, Like I can't after
four years got him, Bro, telling the legs not the same.

(01:01:26):
But if anyone could be Charling the octagon though, Man,
I'm like, hi as a person I love, but he
sells no, no, no, I see him want cocaine. You
don't want to cocaine is the coolest thing. I think.
I wouldn't want him around. But it is funny entertain.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
He's faked up, you know, he's fun geeked up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Across the ship. I know he geeked up. He's listening.
He's as a character, he's a funny guy. But I
just you know, there was a there's a respect level
that I'm just like, yeah, he breaks my bro he
here's not too much. You stood up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
You get beat up by some dude and you know
you lost bad and you're just gonna sit there with
the ass beat on the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
You can't say that still talking about this, Yeah, exactly.
I should have just went back and just yeah, still
beat though. It's a lie though, but it's but it's
a lie. Thought he made it up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
He's a ultimate villain.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
It's gonna sit in his head, that's part of his
should have just beat him.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Up right there, because thinking about that, like, yo, that's
the ultimate village stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
It was a.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
It was a very proud moment that I had the
Other day, my girl comes up to me and she
was just like so, I was like, I wanted to
do a little bit more research, and I started looking
into like did you see the fight after Connor and
Kabibe fought?

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
And I was like the fact that you just bought
this going wedding ring shopping this week?

Speaker 10 (01:03:17):
Player Baels, Yeah, send me that invite.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Even maybe chicken wings, just the chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
I always watching, bro, thank you, mark that down, marked
that down one five the chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
The chicken breast is good. Always say, yo, let me
get chicken breast. All the chicken.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Watching women. That's by eighty winks. That's Evan bro.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yeah, best chicken breast. Hold the chicken.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
That's crazy. You could eat wings and I get.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
While you eat funny is that? Like every other day
were like, yo, let's go to go watch the flights
instead of watching it at the crib. And every time
we look, there's only a few places we could go
to go watch it. You know what, you know what
I mean, you TVs they just you know, I mean
they come with the best wings in town. I guess
un fortunately, I'll drive. Don't worry about it. We'll find

(01:04:32):
the spot. I don't like take my car. You know,
we ended up here to do it. We ran up. Yeah,
he brought me to the chicken spot. He said it
was good.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Yeah, they just have the best volume.

Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
It's the best volume surround sounding here hear the kids.
Really you go to wing spot, the chicken spot. Hold
the chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Where to get into the door?

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Hold the chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Hold the chicken. Come in some weird the beads you
walk to the back kind of beats cod draggers already
in the middle. G it's crazy. I'll have what he's having.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Can I get the Connor Pleace.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Special? I'll take the property Prop twelve. Oh my goodness.
It's a wild boy right there. He's a wild boy.
I wanted to see if he fights somebody in the
meantime or he's just going to come back and fight.
Uh Michael Chandlery, I thought he was like the drugs
rush off the drugs was writing a drug snort that

(01:05:56):
line as there was there was talks that he's supposed
to fight Dan Hooker. Yeah, we'll see. Hooker is also
another wired dude beating bro. I think that that one's
another one that could happen. But they're supposed to fight
allegedly at the end of February, but nobody is putting
anything out. I don't think maybe you I don't want

(01:06:17):
to fight no more, Bro, you don't want to fight
Michael Chandler, he don't want to fight. Bro. If you
already paid, you already.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Already loaded man with that whole Mainweather fight the email,
so you already won.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
The politics is kind of if you already want, I guess,
because you need to keep your name out there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
But other than that, I don't see why else you
would keep chirping at all these people. Because now he's
like with a bare knuckle.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
And all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
So like him and Saporia or all the smack he
was talking about earlier, remember that. Yeah that's uh, I
forget what he called them in the same class, right,
no fifty five but no. But but his thing is is, uh,
Michael Chandler and Connor were going to fight at one seventy's.
I don't know if you've seen him, bro, but I
don't know if you yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I
don't know the movie, right, you could be taking that

(01:07:01):
e bowl. You know what I mean, I should.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
I mean it looks like he's Chandler's always look like
that though. Chandler is one of those dudes who you're like,
you're not natural, but unfortunately he is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Chandler looks like straight, straight, like or bulldog whatever you
think hard working determination would look like for you, but
somehow it does. That's why against Olivera explosives, Bro, I
have Chandler within the first two, maybe three rounds. If
it goes past that, Olivera got him, Bro, just like
I see. I think. I think Michael Chandler has the
first two round minutes of the first round to do it.

(01:07:33):
I would say I'll give him first round, the beginning
of the second round. I got Olivera.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
I don't know how he does in the beginning. He
is blind and how super say.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Feels it. It's weird, the force, the force.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
How you go the first round. I think he's coming
this way. Throw elbow quickly, Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
If it stays stand up within the first round, Charles
got it, Bro, I think he Charles. I'm sorry Chandler,
you have to remember even on the stand up. But
Charless is nice. But I'm saying down. But I'm saying
Charles so so Rookian and Charles fought recently and it
was a three round fight and it was like a

(01:08:20):
title shot decision, and uh yeah, Rookie beat him by decision,
like a split decision. I think Charles closed close. I
think this is Charles also did be Chandler. I think, yeah,
John Jones and super Fight, I'm not expecting anything.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Even like a board, even if there's a knockout, only
if John Jones gets knocked out, and even then it's
just because it's not because it was a crazy knockout film.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Is going to get knocked out off like a Puts.
That's not that. I don't think he's gonna win. Elbow
Joe Random is gonna be like I feel like that
rule is gonna apply towards Jones. Is gonna knocking people
out like that? No more, I don't think he's I
don't know. I still see that if he tires out,
maybe I still see it. If that's just the way
you feel about Charles is the way I feel about John's.

(01:09:04):
I get it. It's pretty athletic for for adapt to
the heavyway position. They both go. They're both great, but
you know until John Joness me wrong. Blonde hair Charles though,
that's super same, super saying. That's what I'm saying. I
love that the team they will ee their hair blonde
for like the fight sick man. They just talk about like.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Yeah, but I can see that could definitely be fighting
the night.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
It's what you're gonna be. Fight at the night. I
think that was gonna have the most fireworks. So even
though I'm looking at the card now, so I'm not
gonna let you guys, those are the two exciting ones.
The rest of them, you know they're there. Uh yeah, Vivian,
I always messed up the resilient names because I never
know if it's you're supposed to say the R in
Spanish fucking vi versus Karine Silva. I'm a big Karini

(01:09:57):
Silver fan. So she's an up and comer, man, you
gotta look out for her. She one of these girls
has got a spark. She's she's throwing hands, she's great kicks.
They come from like a short range. She's one of
those people that like should be standing in like a
foot away from you and somehow gets her foot up
in the head, Like make that makes sense. So I
got her Man. We got Bowt Nickel versus Paul K
my guy Nichols on the tear. He's he's you know,

(01:10:19):
he's giving, He's the great Hope. He's the American dream Nickel.
I mean, bro, he was on that show American Gladiator, Right,
maybe he seems like that's how believable that somebody that
somebody you they put a lot of light on that,

(01:10:40):
like we're waiting to see him getting the title picture
and whatnot. But it's somebody that he's still like I
don't want to say developmental, but it's definitely somebody that
they got to get the I see him like, well,
it's because it's that wrestler thing. Yeah, he already had
like that all the little Well he's doing good because
he's knocking people out all so he's got these Nickel

(01:11:01):
is a problem, Bro, he got power. He's he's also
another one of those guys that it's not a if
he's going to take you down. So when he's gonna
take you down, yeah, so you're just kind of waiting
for it. Yeah, Parlay every time, Bro, I always always
put on but he's always a crazy like favorite. That's
a that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Anybody goes up against he's always it's always like two
hundred plus whatever it may be two three four five
hundred or something like that. I think the last guy
he fight, he was almost a plus a minus a thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Fighting game a little now the guy who we fought
put work on him, but he's still right now, he's
minus a thousand against Paul Craig right now, right now,
he's minus a thousand. Every time everybody on Craig, Paul Craig,
the arm dog Craig. Listen, Paul Craig by submission. What
I'm saying? That arm bar five dollars right, Paul Craig

(01:11:50):
with the arm bar, watch out, he throws out. He
throws that on you quick, Bro Nickel A.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Problem, Bro, I mean that's if you want. That's underdog.
I mean you need to pick a under dog. Pulk
Craig would be.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
It's not a bad one. I mean he's a plus
six fifty. Listen, if you would have hit on Paul
Craig and steep acha yo and then.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Some to move easy too with like you call the wife, Hey,
we're going Christmas shop.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Literally, I think that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
If they're like a ten dollars bed. I'd love to
on the door. Oh man, yeah, I'll be doing that.
Draft can say Draft k draft Cake.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
We got Chris Widman also make it. I guess not
a return but yeah yeah, well so like you just
use my link, use my link. I'm in talks with
we got we got draft Kings, we got Man Escaped.
They're all in talks. Also the Big Ones, also the
Big podcast Bro Glu Glue Comercion. What's what's the food ones?

(01:12:56):
What's the food ones? That that always uh factor Factor Meals,
Fact the bals. We're gonna get them soon. We're working
on it. That's what I'm saying. You hear the Factor
Meals are already showing you. Out reach out. We got
it our age out reach out. Let me know. I'll
make a video right now, whole movie. Yeah that's not

(01:13:18):
what the studio sports. We'll talk later. I'm still not
even making it. That's so much. I believe in the
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Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Sponsor, Blue Chair.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
I just used it right now. Commercials, I flip this table.
At this point, we just need like the you know,
the office buttons that say.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
No, it's like, look, no heads, all right, so with
you what happened on six or nine? So all right,
so let's just go around the table. I got I'm
gonna say, John Jones is gonna get it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Bro, I did not think you were gonna say that. Dude.
You listen, we want the upset. But Steve A has
been gone double ten years. You're gonna be John Jones.
Sorry too.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
But and then also coming off bad one, I feel
like getting hit by frances a train coming at you
full space.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
I'm surprised he fightings still. That's why he hasn't fought
since exactly. He's like because his check is that cutting,
so it's a double edged sword. And then that I
was talking to you about the other day, and you too.
We haven't seen steep A in an interview, give a quote,
a statement, not a tweet, not an Instagram post with
the family. I see, I see you Jackson, all right.

(01:14:51):
I got to listen to that because I haven't even
I haven't heard the man. I was just like, oh,
this is steep A. Yeah, because I'm like, bro, like
you have a huge fight with John Jones, and I've
seen zero promo. I've seen nobody talk to you at all,
and this fight isn't hasn't even been a trash.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Lets you really like focused that he doesn't want no distraction?

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
What if he's also this entire time and like, I'm
gonna come back and I'm gonna fight some crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
World and I want that that plus four hundred more than.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
I don't know about you guys. Listen, I'm not giving
anybody advice, but I'm throwing it. I'm even though I've
bought him. We all hit the next episode, there will
be signs just like I don't know. We might have
held clock and everything. Look at l Let me let

(01:15:49):
me get another Champag bottle. What's the bottle of the
hood gave you. We're gonna have four them on the table.
We're gonna have four races spades like we might have
head out of them.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Let me just check the ship.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
It might just be. That's what I'm saying. Look, look
it's gonna be. It's gonna be in Tropical Pod next
And Paul Craig, if you put ten towards those you're buying, yeah,
maybe for the next house. It's insane. I love I
love what they throw these crazy but you bro, You're
like I'm a waste fie. Tell my boys this all

(01:16:25):
the time. It's a scratch ticket, that's all I do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
You know, that's right?

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Yeah whatever, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
I get to enjoy watch.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
People have to see a good fight. If you win,
it's even better even Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Yeah, scratch is like yo two seconds of god damn.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Hate this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Like that who scratched more as a scam, but you
have there's more a piece of paper that you have
to throw away somewhere to watch the fight. They like them,
you know you're writing them off for texes. Most I've
ever won was twenty dollars. I never touched some ships again.
Yeah I subscribed after this episode. Yeah yeah, shout wow

(01:17:38):
this ship. Yeah we hear I educated him a mayor.
Are a friend of that friend?

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
A friend of the friend.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
They'll never listen to this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Like you, bro, five hundred just from what did you
because you walked into this some good friendship.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Thanks for he told him, what's experience tickets. He's a
part of the way.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
You say you should pick number thirty two.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
It seems good. I gotta go for the book. I
think just just say you texted her? Yeah, I texted them.
I texted my friend that person, and but you really
don't watch this. She really doesn't want to sell at all. Cool,

(01:18:20):
no chance, he's like, He's like, I can't almost guarantee
you she's never clicking on this video. Ever, I'll take it.
I'll take it all right. At least we're in it together, yo.
So that closes up U S three or nine. Before
we get out of here, I just got a couple
of m M A news I want to run through.
I was like, just kind of catch everybody. I put
some random stuff that's happened. So we'll go through these

(01:18:40):
kind of quick. So blah Muhammad is out of UC
three ten due to injury. Saw the toe.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Picture crazy disgusting, and he's got like I think he
has a bruise or something like that or an infection
on the inside of his.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Bone and the toe. It's pretty bad. It's pretty gross.
I'll send you the phototy that's bad. So we got
him out, so we'll see shot Cut Rockmanov wants to
stay in, so maybe he'll fight somebody and we'll have
another number one contender. A shot Cut will just to continue.
The dude that comes in with the hat and.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
He has funny yeah, funny hat ud another one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Shout out KAZAKSTI, but he comes up with an ego.
It's crazy. Let's see, we got I and Gary versus
Joaquin Buckley, US fight night and guests. Guests where for Buckley,
you'll see Tampa. You might see we might be out
there Tampa. Maybe hook it up, bro. That's yeah, I'll

(01:19:37):
look into my guy. We'll get tickets. We'll see, we'll see. No, no,
you got you got that? Come on, it's right off
for taxes, right my uncle? Which one door in Florida,

(01:19:59):
Tampa sounds later about that time. But that's gonna be
a good one. We got Khalil Rowntree didn't move up
in rankings after his fight with Alex even though he
someone checked on, hey have won because somebody went down.
Unless they remove somebody, he's still sitting at number eight.
He didn't move up or down. He stayed right at
the same place. Dana White's a little upset about it.
He thought that he'd move up after that performance, which

(01:20:20):
after that, Dana went on a whole ram.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
Rankings.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Yet exactly sor Facebook over there, I just started running
the rankings. But he's also talking about Ai judging because
are so I ain't gonna understand bros, damn humans, They're

(01:20:44):
all gonna be well, everything eventually is gonna be a I.
But you might get better results that way. You can.
I think you do both just to see and you
kind of like meet in the middle with the scores.
I guess you can have one judge b A I
do that, you know, And then this came saw this.
Look at now that we're almost at the end of

(01:21:04):
the year, let's look back and really think about how
many times we wanted to go and fight one of
the judges, the one judge b ai and then two
human judges. But make them be like, who know, I
guess credible. Well, they're gonna have like one of these
big companies that are like make it like I have them.
That's why he's talking to Zuckerbergers. He's like, I need

(01:21:26):
you to come up with something for this. You're a
fan algorithm.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
That even when like my whole life, I've never known
or understood how could you track who's.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Really so it? Really they have a scoring point system
just like with them boxing, but with UFC's exactly a
lot of factors in it. I guess it's a camera
that will then like scan the notice what hits or where.
I don't know how they're gonna do like damage or
anything like that. I don't know how that comes into play,
but they're gonna have to figure out something, if anything,

(01:21:58):
that will only be like strikes landed in control time.
At first. These are meadows right here, so for example,
judges can just be rocking these bro and that I
will tell you what it would be exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
You know, it would just be judge will go off
of what they sawfers with the glasses, and then the
other kind of picking choose.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
It's a fire. We was playing one on one this motherfuckers.
According to Ship Yeah, yeah, I thought you quit after
that day. Definitely, I'm definitely easing reserved. That was a
warm up day. That was a warm day. Already, nice
with it, my motherfucking net. Yeah, it was a warm
up It was warm day. Yeah. Man. Another thing I

(01:22:43):
wanted to bring up is real random. So you know
how we we watched these fights every now and then
and then we're like, yo, this one starts like yeah,
I don't know if you guys have looked at that,
if you looked at the schedule, the fight night after
you see three your nine th start. Oh yeah, I
saw that one. Six a ridiculous. I'm not going to sleep.
Who is this for? You're watching it? I'm not going

(01:23:04):
to sleep. Listen, I'd be going to sleep by die Hard.
I'm to be ready at nine am or something. A
fight night. I'm passing. I'm passing. I'm good. I'll skip
that depends if I'm already up all right. If not,
I'm go watch my Morning right there, I watched. I

(01:23:26):
watched that one in the morning. I'm not going to
stay up to watch that. Nobody on that one that
I'm like, whoa, okay, what's the best time as us?
Or I guess me. Personally, I'm a big fan of
an Afternoon, the one that just passed by, where it
was like the main card started at like two, when
the prelims were like at twelve or something like, Yeah,
Saturday afternoon earlier. Because my thing is like, you still

(01:23:48):
get the thing that I run into a lot myself.
You have a social Yeah, yeah I do, but I do,
but it's late later Saturday Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
The amount of times I get yelled at over a
Saturday because I'm ever somebody wants to go do something.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
I'm like, I'm the fights, you know what. You know
what it is, Melvin. Every other day is like stupid
fight my girl, stupid right after this and then I'm like, yo,
I'll go chill me when I'm in the corner with
my little phone right there just watching the fights and
I'm here. I just do my thing. My body is
but we're going there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
We're going on a trip in like a week and
a half and it's for our friend's birthday and the
John Jones because the birthday, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Yeah, you've really on your phone right now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Biggas go bediggers. You gotta understand that. If you don't
understand that, just I guess best time I would probably
say like three limbs will be like six or seven,
and then main card is probably like eight or nine.
I feel like eight is good if you want like that,
if you want that like late now we're having like
a Saturday night, eight is good for the main card.

(01:25:05):
To storry, ten is a little too late. Ten is
like because you don't be sitting there for five for
early prelims and then eight o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Yeah, eight o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
I'm still I'm still going with that two pm.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Like this, because you still got your whole Saturday after.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Some early birds. I got, what's what's the best time?
We're always all right, So eight o'clock is good for
the starting for the name, because that main fight would
be at ten. I like day drinking. Yeah, like the

(01:25:52):
UFC type of day. Yeah, I know, but you can't
you fall asleep too fights into the get it out
the way like you just kind of like yeah, So
I'll say eight o'clock around our time would be like best. Yeah,
I can't wait to same thing. You'll be texting at three, man,

(01:26:12):
I can't wait to see chat about that though, I'm
always said, I'm always said, anyway, see that some time
we gotta get like mad pots of coffee just to
take I would have to sleep and wake up at
two to be able to watch that fight at three.
Yeah right, how many pots of coffee? We probably go to?
Two pots? Yeah right? The realist. The realist to a

(01:26:35):
UFC event. It's kind of crazy, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
I totally get why this one is at the time
that it is. So that's about to end the episode,
but we didn't get to do this one, so we're
going to play it now. Because I want to end
the episode with something fun. But we're going to play
a fun game that justin came up here. He say
that name, take that shot.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
I just like And here's the best part is, you know,
you know how we're gonna do it. Let me just
take a quick little day that. Yeah, you know, this
honestly should be good. We're gonna do this a little
bit of fun. Honestly, Pick any fight on this card, bro,
you know lexic. This is the three A M card.
Look by alright, alright, I'm gonna go with the main one.
Let's start with one.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
Looks like it's Japanese.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
First way, I can say Peter Y and David Figuredado.
I believe that's Davison. So you got damn right shot,
damn short first one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yo man okay,
Tabitha Ricci. It was pretty good on top of the reach. Cheers, cheers.

(01:27:37):
One one.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Oh Whang Kong.

Speaker 11 (01:27:44):
Pat Whykoka Fernande?

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Alright, but it's really Wayne Kong.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
I might wake up For the main card. There's a
couple on here that are pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
The main card, Peter Jangarado might be a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Peter Yan is a good one. Tabata Ricci is a
good one. The volcanos to me versus callers, Olberg is
gonna be a good one. That one's gonna be good.
You say that one more time?

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
Was Carlos Olberg. He's from New Zealand. Olberg? Where did
that German? Right? Like? I don't know. There's a lot
of dogs. There's a lot of you know what I mean. China,
China and South Korea heavy on this card though, okay,
anyone from North Korea. Thank you guys for joining in

(01:28:39):
episode about educated I've been Your host is the most
Warner Bro as always, we got r G this justin
and thank you Kokie for coming in. You like, Share, subscribe.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
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