TAKE 12 - UFC 310 Preview (feat. Matty)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome everybody to another episode of Uneducated m m A.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm your host with the most wonder bread and as always,
I'm joined by my fellow co host.

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come up with a new new nickname for you, sir.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I feel like I feel like every time you're on
eightle six they get a heavyweight chairming.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I just send this to an MMA show, but I
feel gonna something else.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
So we'll figure it out. Figure it out as a team,
a unit. You're come organically somewhere somewhere in the conversation.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
We'll get a hold on it one days.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
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rig we have men r EG like it.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Like that's not right, that down, that's just hard. That's
just hard, bad at mother planning.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Alright, there we go, And I just got a crazy
notification that dis justin justin all that other fun stuff. Now,
ladies and gentlemen, we have a fun show tonight. But
obviously we're not gonna just do the show by ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Like I've mentioned several times before, I'm one that just likes.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
To reach out and have people come on the show.
That just always wants to talk mmma. Now, if you're
a true fan and you go way back to one
of the first episodes, granted this is an episode twelve,
but you.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Know that's we don't record every week.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
You feel me it's been a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I got I got a little message from a guy
who was like, hey, I kind of want to be
on the episode again.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
And I was like, you know what, one hundred and
ten percent, my.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Boy, Matt, He's coming on the show. Welcome back, we
come back. I don't know if you remember the last
time you were here. We were in that cramp little
studio over there.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
When we're just sitting there, three chairs next to each other,
having a grand old time, though talk of fights.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
You could be anywhere, honestly, Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah right, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Like the water cooler talk. You feel me at work,
everybody just pulls up. You'd be standing by a wall.
You're like, you know that that's the wall that people.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Talking smoke break anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, the fights of it, I feel like I feel
like it's like the stupid kid everybody finds. So it
doesn't matter where you're at, you just always talk that
talk and you find that one kidd be like, what fight,
get out of here. Man, this is gonna be a
great episode. I've got some words that I gotta eat
on this one. I'm not gonna lie to you. I

(02:10):
got some pretty big words. So obviously we.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Had a pretty big baby view previously that we're going
to talk about. Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I usually go with like.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Doing a breakdown of the upcoming card, but when some
things such as big as UFC three oh nine and
John Jones just handling Steepich happens, we gotta go over
UFC three oh nine.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Not the little dance dance.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Bro, it was so good, bro, Like you can't like,
you can't deny it at this point, man greatest of
all time, like multiple weight division.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Champions, the elbows yoke elbow champion of the world heavyweight
that was crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, you know he did the good thing about the the.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Two years of like just working out the grindings getting there, so.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
It makes naturally yeah, right, started like adapting to like
being comfortable in this heavyweight uh, in the heavyweight.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Division, because also with the heavyweight that's two twenty five
to two sixty five. He could have just been like,
you know what, I'm just gonna be a fat piece
of shit and just eat you come.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
In because I'm not gonna lie you. A lot of
these heavyweights are very unathletic.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, exactly, with the with the still he has, he
could be he could be unfit, and I think John
Jones would handle like ninety percent of the heavyweight division.
Person I oh crazy crazy experience too.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Like he did lose some weight to coming into this
fight compared to the fight against Selgn Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, he did look a little bit more like in
shape with this one, like he was like more focused
on this all I mean, this is this is the one.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
This one was just like I just gained mad weight.
I'm back, I'm into heavyweight division now.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
It's like, all right, let me up exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, last episode, that's what I brought up where I
was saying that like I don't know how he's gonna look.
We had sixty seconds of John Jones coming in and
just murdering cel Gone and he looked a little like
weird on the feet. But this fight he really showed
that he was tot was broken. That was weird that
they won't let him fight if he has a thing bandage?

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Did he have a bandage on this one?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
I didn't know this. No, I don't think so, I
don't see it.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I wonder if you just like played through the pain, because.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
That's that's I don't know if you saw the photos
of him without the bandages that totals like this way,
it's like Lebron James fet N Hooper's feet be crazy
because they step.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, it just becomes the.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
You got that curve on around your sinky totals over
the other toe.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
It's like, it's hard to sell me on them shoes.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I remember playing football and I had some like cleats
that would like after a while, I felt like my
feet were like starting to form to them, and I
didn't like it. I like, we got basketball for sure,
athletes A that's the same difference, the same difference. I
check him every day. I got the talking powder you
feel me and I got a regimen hate. But I

(04:48):
know it's been the talk of the town though. But Jones,
he has to fight. You know who Tom aspinall. That's it, Bro,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
I had to check you to see where you were
going with that one. He has to Bro.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
He came out he wants to fight uh Praira, but
not Bro.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
I've been seeing this in like a couple of different podcasts.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
People have these takes and like, obviously there are people
out there, this is uneducated Mma. There are people out
there that know more than me. But do you think
he's just negotiating publicly? That seems to be the hot take.
Not really, it could be it could be like his
way to I don't want to fight no Tom was Alex,
let me get that bag.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
But then Tom, it makes more of a case when
people be like, whoa, what about Tom?

Speaker 3 (05:26):
And then do you think he wants to like genuinely
go down.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
No, I think he would probably make Alex move up
if I had to guess, Yeah, I mean, think about it.
You take so much time to build up, whereas like
Alex was just like not just walk around at a
light heavyweight, So like for him it wasn't an no deal.
So for him to move up and wait, I would
feel like makes more sense than John to move back down.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
They talk about it, Alex doesn't want.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
To go Yeah, both guys are deadly, But if you
had to choose, like who to fight, you would go
with John because it would be the same idea, not
like in John Jone's position, who you would pick. Here's
the thing is, you would definitely pick Alex because A,
I think it's an easier fight and be the payday
as of right now that me and you are speaking
is bigger right now that we're speaking.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Obviously, let this episode come out in the week. We'll
see how it goes.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
But Alex was saying that, like, well, John Joe was
saying that he wants like the opponents to be like
legacy on Yeah, yeah ones that.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Really not not.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
He claims tom Asimo was just an up and comer
kind of thing, but.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
You can't throw a hate on his record. Bro.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
No, we also haven't seen tom Asimo go the distance either.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, speaks to him, like, what do you want him
to do? Go light on these guys, Like even like
the one that was the scariest one was him versus
uh Povich Yah Pavovich for the title because that one
was one we thought we obviously that was gonna go
and quickly we thought he was gonna get messed up,
and he managed toss up in twelve Days Off the Couch.
So I don't know, man, like as much as it's
like it's like the same issue I had with John

(06:50):
Jones coming back to heavyweight, where it wasn't enough time
for me to see the holes in the game, and
it also wasn't enough time for me.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
To see how good he was. Obviously you get.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
To finish, but like I guess, with Jones is a
little different because he went got the takedown and subbed
him in that weird like front neck choke thing.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
But with Tom, he's just knocking these dudes out.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
You don't let them get to not much tape on him,
like exactly, that's exactly he said. That is a threat
to John. He was like, Yo, I can study you
all day. You've been at this game for.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
A while, but yeah, you can't study me.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
You got four minutes total maybe on me.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's crazy. Yeah enough, that's a threat.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Somebody like him.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
You have to send someone to go in his gym, like, yeah,
get the security cam footage or something. I mean, at
this point, you got it, because if you don't know
how he's gonna come at you, you don't know. And then
with Tom, he's also a well rounded fighter, as we've
been able to see, he has great takedown defense. So
John there goes that maybe thing. It's gonna be like
an accumulation of things for anything. I see this one going.

(07:48):
This was probably gonna be Tom's longest fight, and I
don't know who wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
I'm gonna be honest with crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
They do.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
But but Tom is also super athletic man. Let's let's
not lie. He's one of the fastest moving heavyweights. For me,
Tom versus versus John Jones is a much more intense
and intriguing fight than John versus Alex because I think
we all kind of assume how Alex is gonna go.
They're gonna stand, he's gonna get taken down, and he's
gonnaet finished right on the ground immediately. As good as

(08:18):
Alex is, he hasn't really had to fight anybody that's
been like a crazy wrestler to test him like that.
Unclelive has been the only one that people have been like,
oh maybe. But even then with Uncle Ive, he in
his last couple of fights, I feel like he has been
trying to prove that he's more of a striker than
he is a grappler, just so he can show that he.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Can hang with Alex.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
But I'm more of the camp that you need to
just win. Do what do As much as it's not exciting.
Like Morob for example, he still wins, still wins. People
don't really necessarily care to tune into his fights because
of the way he wins. He's just gonna wrestle you
for twenty five minutes, get the decision, victory in the back.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Same thing with like abbalal Mohammed.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
But I don't want to be the stats bro. You
gonna wrestle, No, totally get that.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
You want to see you want to see more of that,
like kab beb like get on you, maul you like
a bear fight you.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
But talk now, let's talk about let's talk now. We'll
talk about him later.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
But but with that one, it's more so like I
don't know, man. There's also the thing of like, yo,
get up though, you know, like as boring as it is.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
It's like yeah, but yeah, but get up. That's the
that's the whole idea.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Of this sort yeah, fight me.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's like it's like it's like any other sport, bro,
you gotta get through the defense, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
You gotta figure it out.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
You gotta you gotta score, don't you So you're gonna
you gotta get mad because it's like it's like It's
like watching a blowout in any other sport. You feel
me like you are you gonna really be upset by
the other team for not like they're trying, but they're
just not good enough, you know what I mean. It's
like get get better for me at least that's how
I see it. So when it comes to him fighting Alex,
I just feel like it's gonna be too quick, Like well,
him versus Tom, I see Tom presenting too many, too

(09:52):
many issues.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
The man's been training jiu jitsu since he was a kid.
His dad is like a jiu jitsu artist.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yes, I don't know, but that one is definitely gonna
be much more treating for me for sure. And now well,
Dana White also said that like winner of Step A
and John has to fight Tom.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
So yeah, he makes sense hopefully.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
I heard the talkotiations.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, that was the thing that Jones I saw earlier today.
He said that he will be fighting in twenty twenty five.
That's the negotiation that's going on, and Tom said something similar.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
So you can piece them together.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's like almost officially the heavyweight champion, So then what
would the belt Because that's the thing is that Jones
has technically always been the heavyweight champion. He beat Cyril
Gone for it because it was a vacated title. After
Francis left, he beat Cyril Gon for it and then
he defended it now against step Ay. But then because
it was such a long period in between that time,

(10:40):
Tom ended up fighting and geut the belt. So then
now he is an interim champion. So that's why by
if we're going by rules, and this is the issue,
we get into a lot when we talk about the
UFC stuff. Are we talking sport or we talk in entertainment.
If we're going sport, you have to fight Tom. He
is the inter You literally cannot have two titles in
the same way class that you gotta fight the guy.

(11:02):
But if we want entertain it, like I said, we're
speaking right now, the money is Alex and you can't lie.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
That that that's fact.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
But also we're saying that, you know, Jones was duck
in Francis, That's why he was like out for a while.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
So a lot of people were saying that.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
But then I've also heard rumors that like like money
was thrown at them like crazy, but it just still
wasn't enough money or Francis not not.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
That it was no, because the thing is that I
don't think.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
That I don't think that Jones has a fear of Francis,
and I don't think that Francis has a fear of Jones.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
I think it's genuinely just a yo. But you know
how big this is, respect respecting, You know how big
this is.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
You know how much money we're gonna make for you
and give me my piece, Like you know what we're
doing for you, Just do for me the way you
know we do it anybody else.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
But he said too because he doesn't even like John Jones. Like,
let's make this clear, Like John Jones is not afraid. Yeah,
he's not afraid of nobody.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's just the easiest way to tell the story. Oh
he's scared of me, bitch made It's.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Kind of crazy to think John Jones is scared of someone.
He's not.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Though you've seen the footage you see the c TV
of him outside his house running around with the gun.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
He's not of anybody.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I love what it's like. Yeah Jones, just like you know,
he's doing that little.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Shit with shirt up with a twelve games after somebody
who tried to break into his house, dumb Yeah, dumbest thief.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I would have saw the news headline that he killed
somebody who tried to break in his house. I was like,
that's on the that's on the thief. Bro who told
me to break into John jones house man, not me.
I definitely think that it's it's it's an interesting scenario
to be in because like, either way, I think John
Jones mace, but this is this is is I know

(12:47):
he tried. I tried, but from what I've got from gathered,
it seems like he's more into that firefighters stuff right now.
And he's also long in the tooth man. He's been
at it for a while, Like he's an older guy.
He's been in wars.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
That's why I said in the last episode is what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I had to eat a couple of my words, and
I like, the most nicest things I've ever said about.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
This is my thing is like I said that, I've
said this before.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I know, I don't I don't I don't like, I
don't hate John Jones. I just definitely think that, like,
and this is going to be something that we're going
to talk about little later when it comes to Connor
as well. Is that like the sport moved on in
my opinion. In my opinion, so when people are just
nut hugging John Jones like crazy, I'm like, I totally understand.
You go back and you see the I totally get it.

(13:34):
But again, this sport is very big. What have you
done for me lately?

Speaker 3 (13:38):
And what has he done for me lately? Even?

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, but that's my thing lately that before that, before that,
a previous episode, it was sil gone a year and
some changes.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, it's still yeah, exactly, he's not as active. I
feel like it ought to be. Dominic Gray was that?

Speaker 3 (13:55):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (13:56):
What was probably the only person giving him like the
most work because because uh Sarah was his first fight
in heavyweight.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Let me see, God, he.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Just fell off after that.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah he so he fought Cyril in twenty twenty three,
and then before that he beat Dominic Rays in twenty
twenty two or twenty twenty Sorry he.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Is damn that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well maybe when he fights a whatever he was he was, no,
but that was.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Who's the most active UFC fighter? Who do you think
we see like most often? So I would say it's
either him or like for a while it was like
a Kevin Holland was also very active. Because you gotta
think there's also a lot of these like fight Night
fighters that they have fought three four five.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Uh, Jessica what's her name? Justica? Andrage she has also
fought a lot.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
But she has also like openly been like I'm in
divorce court. I'm getting like just ran through it with
money right now, I need I need to pay my bills.
So she was fighting I think like four or five
times and was losing pretty bad because of it. But
there've been a couple of people that have like, let
me get this paycheck and just go. I will say
this like it goes underappreciated, but the Israel a lot
of signas the champions that have defended their belt two

(15:00):
to three times a year really underappreciated. People like people
don't give him enough credit for that because now you
look at other champions once a year.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah maybe if.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
If that like Diego Lopez, he has also fought a lot.
But those are the up and coming, hungry guys that
want the title shot. Because that you have to think
about it when you're in the position of the you're
on the chase and on the hunt.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
You need to do whatever you can to get that.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
If you decide, and we've seen it with a couple
of fighters, they give you this, here's a last minute.
We need you in a week notice to come and
fill in all this guy out. And you say, no,
you might not get that.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
No more, you didn't you.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Didn't help me out.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
What have you done for me lately? Again, we're going
back to that.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
What if you gonna so then I'm gonna I'm gonna
give it to this guy over here. And now you're
gonna see this guy eating going even though he lost that,
he's gonna go on and do all kinds of crazy stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
And you're gonna sit here on the back burner, and
now we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Give you a killer and then you can to last
minute exactly precisely. You get left, get left, and you
already know what happens when you do that. They go go,
he don't see him no more.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I just finished the wire. They're gonna end up with
those boarded up houses. Shout out Marlow. Chris is snooping
if you know, you know, uh, but yeah, I think
I think the world is right now.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
John Jones oyster. I think he has his pick.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think Tom is Tom is unfortunately in the situation
where even though he's holding gold, he's chasing gold.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
That makes any sense. Like I don't know, man.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
If I was him full wwe.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
I'm the champ. John Jones ain't nothing. He's scared of me.
Just keep playing that, you know, and then the money
will come.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Like you mentioned earlier, they're already in talks about it,
so it'll probably end up that that's.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Gonna be the fight that's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
We'll just wait and see what announcements come with it,
because as of right now, it just makes more sense
for him to fight Tom to the weight issues between light.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Heavyweight and heavyweight.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Which way are you going who gets more clout? Because
right now I.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Will say John Jones is UFC's pride and joy, so
he's gonna get the favor.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
But Jordan's ain't a way like David. Why is David
Stern And he's just like Jordan.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
I mean to be fair, like though you you do
want those like legendary superstar. You need that, you want
the you want the what we're doing right now, like
we're just fans, We're just fans talking about the sport.
You want the fans to be able to discuss who's
the greatest of all time, who's your top four, who
do you think is the number one, who's your Mount
rushmore of go, Who's Ron James, who's an up and comer?

(17:29):
These these comparisons, you want to be able to have them.
So in this situation where like the UFC is a
marketing machine and they can make like superstars. You want
a John Jones, You want to Connor McGregor, you want
a sugar Sean O'Malley.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
You want these guys. You can be like, here's the branding.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
We're gonna sell this merch and people are gonna be
able to see this face randomly in a poster and be.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Like, Oh, that's by blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
You know what I mean, Like, that's what you want
to be able to do.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
So with John Jones, youngest champion in UFC history, still crazy, undefeated,
Street for the most part, probably gonna have that no
con test overturned now that twelve to six elbows are allowed,
even though people are like, that was the rules back then,
he's the rules now.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
You shouldn't I agree that you shouldn't overturn it. I understand.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Market overt marketing though to the Kabiba factor, being like
he's undefeated though like not a blemish on his record.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Same way like college football took away Reggie Bush's heisman
because of uh he got paid and stuff like that,
and they changed the rules they gave him his heisman back.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, it's kind of like similar to that.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
Where like, honestly to nobody looks at.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
That, Yeah, well that's I see.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
Everyone looks at that fight and they're like.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
That's why I say it's a marketing because it's literally.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
And now in the Blue Corner Mixed Martial Art DA
and the doing the announcements, and then you see Jones and
you see the record pop underneath you one.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Then you go looking and then you're like, what's going
on there? So you want to see what happened?

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Oh, there is somebody, But then you watch the fight,
you're like.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Oh, no, like I got murder dude, John j John
Jones just slipped up once and then they were like, oh,
but he murdered a street fight, like like he didn't
lose that fight. No, it wasn't, It wasn't even it
wasn't even if it was a street fight under MMA rules,
if we were to just give you a score. Up
until then, he was still winning. It literally was the
fact that he decided to do this instead of this

(19:19):
after By the way, I watched the fight recently, after
the twelfth elbow down, that's when the ref was like,
all right, you chill Like that was another part of
me that was also kind of crazy that like, that
fight should have been stopped earlier. In my opinion, it
should have been stopped earlier as well. So then it's
also like he could have had that as a w
But just the fact that I went a little longer
and then again instead of going like this, he went
like this.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
It just put him aside, Hey, don't do that again.
Exactly my point, man.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
But then you also have like, like to I guess
segue into the next one. You have situations like Michael
Chandler versus Charles Olavera at UC three.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Real quick, last thing I want to say about Jones,
we'll go back to it.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I just wanted to say that the Chandler was throwing
forty seven punches to the back of the head towards
Olivera and the rebels like you're good.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, yeah. No.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Last thing I was gonna say is did you guys
see him like shoot the basketball or his airballs?

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, he goes.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
To the camera and never put basketball in my hands
when he tried to dunk it too.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Oh my goodness athletic. Certain people are and they don't
have the same coordination.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
To Yeah, that's to me think that that's a that's
a skill thing though, that's like how often think about
how often are people just like shooting around for fun?
You build that muscle memory of being able to know like, oh,
I released at this point, I here, But I feel
like you can put Lebron in like in the octagon,
he'll be pretty nice.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
So so there's there's a thing.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I guess it's it's a different scales because you could
put him I would say in like an amateur fight,
but I don't think no, but is anybody.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
That has he'd be flopping.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
So that's what I'm saying, anybody that has any sort
of fight, I Q. Yeah, even if it's an amateur
that has a fight on the record, it's more than
he has because have you ever heard listen, we've seen
I guess Lebron grew up have you I haven't heard
of anything.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
It was like, yeah, back in the day.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
You used to getting all these scraps, But I haven't
heard any story like that. Have you ever heard of
a Lebron fight story? Even in the locker room? You know,
people people get scared of him.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
He has no experience.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
He'd be arguing everybody he's gonna.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
Get kicked so hard in the vibbs. You know, he's
gonna leave his body open.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
If you're like already calculated, you're not wrong though. But
that's that's what I'm saying, Like he ain't didn't fight that.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Basketball players are two.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I mean, what was the dude that thought, uh it
was like the first one to fall to Jake Paul.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
But come on, that's like the shortest dude you send him.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
To go get killed? I don't know. That's that's It's
crazy that he went into that so unprepared. Yeah. Serious, Wait,
did you not like spar well?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think it's the same thing we were just talking about,
like does he know how to.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Fight Lebron James? Lebron James.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Go in with more like let me spar and let
me get a couple of rounds and see what I'm doing,
but it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
To go and definitely put the work in and figure
it out for sure.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
For sure, at least you would.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Hope Marshall Walker made a successful transition. Yeah, yeah, I
feel he was he was savage.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Football is a little different.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Because you you you go back to those like you
see one through tens, you find out that a lot
of those guys had like football experience or even like
brock Lessner was a professional football player. That's I think
that because of like I know, basketball is an aggressive sport,
but with football, like even like I don't know, man,
I can I can tell you right now from like
playing football like a good majority like you could. I

(22:32):
feel like the way you learn how to tackle change
one or two things. You just learn how to do
a single and a double leg. Right, you get what
I'm saying. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Like basketball players are not used to get hit or
going to the ground like that hit like hitting the ground.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
So often exactly, so there's a more like of a grit.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
I feel like to like football than a basketball I
guess you the the side elbow.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Whatever you can learn when you're when you're jumping up
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, you can do that, but like, for the most part,
football is a much more like it's bred in aggression.
Like that's like you're wrestling, you see. I feel like this,
uh football is a fall sport going into a winter sport.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Shoutout, say them high. You would see a lot more football.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Players going into wrestling than you would anybody trying to
like not play football and then decide to play basketball.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
And I was always like I was a hooper all
year round. So it's kind of just like, no, I
don't want to get hurt. I'm not playing football with you.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
All out here.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
And then you meet the football players and they're all
a bunch of like we don't care, Like whatever happens
to me happens to me. I know myself included. I
know plenty of people that played injured and much just
like play on. Yeah, and you're like this is debilitating
but whatever. You're like, I'll deal with it. It's fine.
But I don't know, man, I think it's it's weird,
it's not. I feel like football and hockey are the
two sports I would say, like bring them over at MMA.

(23:39):
Everybody else, I'm like you can stay over there. Soccer
and all that other stuff.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Man rugby too. Rugby rugby would also be a really
good one.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Rugby are really There's also those random ones you see
on the internet at three am when you're watching fight
sports kind of a sport.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I guess the Olympics, Bokanowski should be over two fifty.
Can you believe that that dude five foot six? That dude,
that dude was, Yeah, he's like.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
No neck, like two fifty.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Just athletic beast and decided to.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Bro decided to cut the way and become the greatest
in an mma this time.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
I guess when I was.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
Watching the Olympics, I was like, I never watched rugby,
but when I watched it, I.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Was like, it's a great sport.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I need to watch a little bit more because I
don't understand the you pass it back and then you
can run forward, Like I.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Don't get that part. But it'steral.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
This is but it's weird.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I don't know. I gotta look ato it. This is
going to turn into a rugby show.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
He's gonna go educated, uneducated Rugby new addition to the
eight to six network educated Rugby.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
All right, you're boy one bro our boy one, Olivera.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
You called it.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I was gonna so Normally on this show, whenever we
have a guest, I have the guest picked the card.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
But I was gonna put the Olivera card.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
It's like a big right in the middle, I know,
but I wanted it to be its own pedestal.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Like there he is, bro, let me tell you, I
knew it was going to happen.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I didn't know how it was going to happen, but
I knew Michael Chandler, off the layoff right now, was
not about to go in there and be Charles Dubrunx.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
It looks like the exact.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, still cheating, still dirty up this point, Listen, I
don't think Michael Chandler has a title shot left in
him at all. I don't even think he's gonna get
a bml A BMF shot. He could because of the
way he fights, but he's at this point as too
many people have accused him of cheating.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I've seen too many things. I put him in there.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
To scrap with some crazy guys, and I'm cool with it.
But other than that, like Michael Chandler, you're over there, bro,
you're over there. I'm sorry it's a shame to see.
But now we get to see Olavera. Well, maybe we'll
see him versus the winner of Surouki and and is
on Maka Chef. But the only thing with that is
I don't know if you guys have followed as many
MMA pages as I have. After that wins, people were like, oh,

(25:46):
Chandler trash. Chandler great fighter, but like not skilled enough.
Maybe we gave him a BMF title shot. Maybe if anybody,
wait a minute, Chandler with the BMF No, no, no, no,
who do you fight?

Speaker 3 (26:00):
How many finishes does he have?

Speaker 2 (26:02):
He has the most submission wins, He's finished almost everybody
he's fought.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
He's an insane amount of wins.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
What about him.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Versus Max the bf TEL That was how the conversation
immediately changed, where people were like, Chandler's washed.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Let's give him.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
No no, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
The b AMF belt is no longer you're a washed
scrap or go there.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
This is now you're a fan favorite elite fighter, as
it should be, and now you get to fight for this.
That shows that you are loved by the fans. And
I think that would also be a great fight out
to be excited to see. I do want him to
hold gold again and go against Islam or Ski. I
think he's a better chance against Arroukie because he almost
fished him. Remember, I don't know, you put him in
the guillotine, pants down, his whole thing.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
We talked about that for a second.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
He really had this man in a full guillotine so
bad that he had his he had his legs like
around the body and he somehow managed to pull the
pants down because Arman was trying to fight out.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Of it so bad.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
So he's out there in his undies trying not to
get choked out. Now Magic he gets put to sleep
and now his just whole he's out, just to sleep
in the middle of the together.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
That is a photo that would he would.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Never live down. You have to retire after that, But
he didn't. You don't know what prison is like. No, literally,
But now now I want to see where they go
with this, because like he really could do that.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
I mean Max, Max did just get Kios. So he's
gonna be out for a little bit. You know, he's
got like the six months anyone.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Walking around with the belt.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you got to give the man
praise where praises du like I said, like as much
as much as I have my biases on these fighters,
and you're gonna hear it all the time. I'm gonna
I'm gonna pick the guys that I I root for
and I play as in UFC five. But at the
end of the day, like we know, skill is skill
in the situation, like like Iliot was a threat and
he showed it and he got him out of there
first one first one ever, bro, So you gotta give

(27:53):
him Respector now does he does he earn that b
a F belt?

Speaker 3 (27:57):
No?

Speaker 1 (27:58):
No, he got it, you know, earn it.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's it's weird that it's like you have to beat
the bmm F to get the b A MATH But
just because you beat the BMF doesn't mean you're a BMF.
Forel me because that that wasn't the belt on the
line exactly. The evidence of absence is not the absence
of evidence.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
He did never been knocked out. He did.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
He did the thing that was really crazy, so there,
but it wasn't the lie's bad.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
He is a bad motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
But and his resume, his resume is pretty good too,
especially because like he just did also knock out Volkanovsky
right before he knocked out Max.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
The MF move is a BMF crazy.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I don't know who you give it to him, but
I definitely think that Max is still going to keep
that title. And now he's officially said I'm just moving
on to one fifty five.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I think he would have done it anyway.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
I think it would have gave it that one last
go at one forty five won it, maybe gave Ilia
a rematch, and then he would have went it back
up because I think, I mean, you saw how comfortable
he was against Justin Gatchee. The man was just moving
and grooving a little too smooth, like he was just vibing.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Well he got knocked out. I don't know if you
remember that.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
There's a photo I want to put up right.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Leave him.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
So it's such a show that it's like he deserves
like it's the same idea.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
He's going to be out for probably like the six months,
which by now is definitely already passed.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
But it's just or no. He said he wanted to
take a full year off himself.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Himself, he said, I want to take a full year off,
and then for him it's going to be money fights.
Who can you fight for money fights? So either I mean,
you could do another rematch with Max if you wanted
to know that they're one fifty five. But this there's
a couple of one fifty five ers up there. You
can give him a Chandler. You can give him because
people want to watch Michael Chandler fight. Let's not lie here.
He's an exciting fighter, wall he is. It's just you know,

(29:39):
Oliver just outclasso.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, Bro, he's posting. I'm just like, Bro, you are
on something that you are.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Somehow getting by USADA or else's drug testing because he
posted a photo I think it's like two days beforehand,
and I was like, there's no way you get like
that just eating chicken.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Chicken breast procctly. Bro, I don't care what you're telling me, Bro.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
But he he's somebody that I definitely think people a
gonna want to watch to fight. But I don't think
he has any title shots. My thing is like he's
also on like same idea. He's a little older now,
he's had his career in bellator beforehand, so like now he's.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
New to like a UFC crowd kind of.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
But I don't think people get to see the wars
that he was in before, like with like Patricio Pipull
and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
So now you see this Michael.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Chandler a little older, trying to fight the best of
the best in the world because that's what the UFC
Top five is or supposed to be, and he's just
not having a good time. And I don't know what
he's gonna do with it, but we'll figure it out.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
I think you can put Dustin Poria in that same
category two.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
You could, so good, but he hasn't won goal yet.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, well he's he's another one that you have.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Well, I mean he's already fought for it, but like
he's another one that's in the BMF title. So that's
another one that people were thinking of, is having either
Max rematch Dustin or Dustin and Justin gait cheek three
and then they.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Both retire or you throw all of vera somewhere in
That makes even Olivera. Olivera fought Justin Gage.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
He probably him, he beat him, he beating me, beat him,
So there we go. So you can't really I feel
like you can't really do those. A fresh matchup would
be him versus Max, or you do you can do
him versus Max, and then do Dustin versus Justin three,
and then they ride off into the sunset if they
decide to. I don't know if Justin necessarily is done,
are you done?

Speaker 7 (31:19):
No?

Speaker 3 (31:20):
But Dustin definitely.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
But we'll see what We'll see what they decide to go.
I don't think Dustin is either.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
According to him, he keeps, he keeps postings and all
that other stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
So he really I think in the past three he's
made his bread. Especially.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
You gotta remember those Connor fights got him paid, and
now he has his businesses, he's got his charities. Why say,
you're a prize fighter and he's The prize is money
at the end of the day. The belt comes with it,
but the money is the thing.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
So it's like, why why would Connor fight again? That's
what everybody in the grandmother is asking.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Now. He's just lost the motherfucking.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
He lost everything he needs to. We'll get into it
and later, we'll get into it. Right now before we
get into three ten, all right? Best So Connor McGregor,
ladies and gentlemen, unfortunately has been found guilty too. I
guess it's a weird way to word it, but I
guess that's like assault in a sexual assault case. Again,
this is uneducated mma, So this is not going to
be lawyer talk. I'm gonna be as brief as possible

(32:17):
as I can and give you generalized statements. Everybody please
do their due diligence and look into it.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Anyway, let's say is a legend, so well, no, he
found guilty, but he really was, So this is this
is pretty legendly. So this is the official headline. Connor
McGregor found liable and of assault in sexual assault case.
So from what I've gathered, from what I've heard, it
seems like there was an instant back in twenty eighteen
where he got into a hotel room. There was like

(32:44):
a party, there was this girl that he was talking
to beforehand. It's a whole case.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
There's a lot of weird.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Honestly, when you look into it, you could go either
which way. He's innocent, he's guilty. There is clearly some
scumbaggy stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Happened in the middle. It's also a civil case, so
it wasn't like so.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
That's the thing is you've lost to the criminal, but
then you you go again for the civil. So but
it's still you found guilty of one of the other.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
It's OJ. He's OJ. He's the OJ of the world.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Unfortunately, so now he has this man make Glove don't fit.
We have this, we have this what I'll call a
fresh a fresh mark on his record. He's had several,
but now this is another fresh one that's on there.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Now. The reason I said this because I had this
conversation with somebody the other day. Now, I gotta be
a little careful with the way I talk because.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
I'm trying not to say anything.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
YouTube YouTube, YouTube, and the algorithm and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
But let's not act like there aren't other people in
other sports that have done worse, that have been charged
and arrested and went to jail for worse and have
managed to come out on the other end.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
And I don't know, maybe recently fought on a Netflix
card and lost.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
I don't know. But but people forget. People forget.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I will say this, Conor McGregor's done me personally, He's done.
I don't think he's fighting. I don't think he's fighting again.
On top of your and what did I say earlier?
The UFC moves on, They build superstars and create new ones. Listen, Connor,
thank you appreciated.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Goodbye. Like you're done, Bro, You're done, like last It's
it's the it's the mix of.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
This and all the losses and and just all of
it together and the lack of excitement to really watch
you fight any of these, like you know, like be fair.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
I was enjoying Cocaine Connor.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Because you like you like Cocaine Connor on the internet.
You don't want to I don't know if you want to.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
See Cocaine Connor getting the cage against Islam because you
know already what's gonna happen. If I was to ask you, yo, here,
I'm gonna give you money to bet. Who are you
betting on?

Speaker 3 (34:42):
I am look at the top five and look at
the top I'm a big Connor fan.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
I was the one that still had hope, like he
still got it because just because the fact that his
last fights were just like he was still skilled. He
still looked like he had it. But he broke his
leg and then there was another one where like he
still had a chance. I don't know, but I always
had that whole like like held on to hope, like
he's gonna give you if he fought the right person
real quick.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
But top five including I'll give you the champ because
you already know Islam. But this is the top five
underneath Islam, Armin Serouki and Charles Lavera, Justin Gagee, Dustin Poier,
Max Hallway.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Who's he beating? Go?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Who's he beating?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Who's he beating? Out of the five that I just said, oh,
he's not beating anything.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I'll even just change it. I'll give you the next five.
So this is six through ten. Dan Hooker, Michael Chandler,
Poteo Scamrod, Benildarush and Hanata way Connell. The only person
I would say he maybe has a chance against is
Banil Diaryush. That's because Banil Doarush is almost forty.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Might be able to be Michael Chandler.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
I think I'm not gonna Even even beforehand, where you
talked about this opening in the podcast is recorded on
the internet, I have said, if this happens, Michael Chandler
is blowing him out of the water.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
You saw how he was against Charles.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Now, I know, Mma, math doesn't make sense, Da da da.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
But if Charles beat Michael the way that he did
What do we think is gonna happen to Champ or
what do you think's gonna hap to con.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
Because the thing is like, well, if you look at
like a lot of Connor ship, it really really sucks.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
He gets submitted all the time. That's his flaw in
his game.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
But but you say that, but who was his most
recent losses to. I've been Dustin Porrie. How did Dustin
Porie beat him out? Boxing his ass up?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Smooth?

Speaker 2 (36:21):
But he did break his leg the other one, but
either way, he was still piecing him up. And again
like I know that, Like it's like a recency thing.
You look at like how did it end? But then
you look at the scorecard. He was doing his work.
He was pie He's moving faster than him, He's able
to recover quicker in between rounds. And it's the same
thing with it and and Dustin Pori is somebody that
we were just talking about. Oh he's almost out of here,
he's retiring. He's he can't beat the best, he can't

(36:42):
do it. We saw him go up against his lamp,
got that leg spun around, choked from the whole nine
like that.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Connor is trying to fight. Who was he like publicly
saying that he was gonna Connor.

Speaker 8 (36:52):
Everybody, I believe I know who Connor is fighting next?
It was and it's the money fight.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Oh I think say a lawyer, Ireland's legal like entire
government like, what are you doing?

Speaker 8 (37:07):
It's Jig Paul, Jake Paul's fighting Connor McGregor on Netflix
for a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Here's the issue to do that. Here's the issue with that.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Here's the issue with that is that we have a
situation right now where the.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
UFC is in negotiation with multiple networks as to who's
going to resign their contract for publishing rights. We have
ESPN Plus, it's their current guy that's gonna go away
either they re.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Up with ESPN Plus or the big one.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
She's a big one that everybody's talking about. UFC is
a part of the TKO Group. Who does the TKO
group also own the WWE. What did the ww just
do sign a deal with Netflix to stream directly on
Netflix even though they have their own network. Wouldn't it
make sense for the UFC to do something very similar,
especially now that they've seen that they are capable of
doing a.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Live streaming event. Even though it was crazy you can
think it was so bad.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
I don't know about you, guys, because I pay for
everything that I watched, trust me. But I was allegedly
that some illegal streams were working better than Netflix itself was,
and that's insane. That's insane, bro Yea.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
So well, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
But like like you brought up earlier, Melvin with the
whole like, oh, this is the money fight. Connor is
still on contract with the UFC for like I think
one or two more fights, and the.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
UFC allegedly mainly Daniel White hates Jake Paul, So I
don't know if that fight's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
I said, I said, give him like a mediocre fight.
He's not. But it's Connor McGregor. That's the thing is
that his name is up here you.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
But I remember how how Dane Looker is the only
one that I think is the one that you can
give him now where it's like an introductory fight that
he's like, are you still getting I.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Was gonna say, he has a shot to beat Hooker,
Dan Hooker.

Speaker 8 (38:49):
You know what I remember, Dana White was very very
Dana White was very against.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
This Connor fighting Floyd. Yeah, and it ended up happening.
Why because the money was too much to say no to.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
So that's that's another topic that I wanted to get
into too.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Is also like a big thing with this is like
we were talking about a few episodes ago, No, the
Michael Chandler and Connor McGrigor fight has to happen, yah yah, YadA.
But then another part with it is also Saudi's have
been given a lot of money to boxers and they
want to see some crazy stuff happen. Like you said, Melvin,
the money could be big enough that they can write
a check and be like this is a separate, separate thing,

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and then Connor just never fights again and just remains
with the.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
All is the fire he needs.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I don't think I don't think that's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Stuff going on to Yeah, but I don't see him.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Fighting in BKFC. If you will, if you won't fight
in the UF, he ain't fighting BKFC.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
That's a that's like no offense of BKFC, but it's
a step down in the sense of like, you have
tried a lot for your career to get like to
where it is, and that like the BKFC guys usually
guys that are like I'm just I'm trying to get
this paycheck. Connor doesn't need the paycheck for him, it's
more so the legacy fights he needs to go to
do so.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
If he doesn't do the legacy fights, the only way
he would fight Jake Paul, Jake Paul goes at the
UFC and the octagon.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
But that's another thing too, is that Jake Paul is
signed to the PFL Super Fight Division.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
That's a whole other company that you.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Again, the UC does not like, yeah, yeah, if they
won't if they won't make the Francis Crossover John Jones fight.
You think they're gonna make Connor versus whoever is over there,
Like no.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
No, it's crazy, doesn't matter. It's only one came. Just
go buy the ranks, forget the money and let the
man buy. He's still not that old, really still be
like how many Brazilians fight to the forty five?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
That's my that's my thing is that like it's Connor
McGregor is the one that everybody like puts you to.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Like everybody is like, oh.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Like you want to be the next Connor McGregor or,
or this guy is giving me vibes of Connor McGregor
or whatever it might be.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
So I just feel like you can't put him against anybody.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
And then now also, I mean, not that I think
about it, he's also talking about fighting Chandler one seventy,
so he would could also move up in wait, but
even then, like the guys a one sevent year killers.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Man, Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely killers Like all right, you
know what.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
He's so he's always been like even fight, They don't
give him a fight. He's just able to sit on Twitter. Yeah,
the buzz, like the hype enough just to say fine,
will make it happen type.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Well, that's why I think a Dan Hooker fight could happen,
Because the way Michael Chandler got like an in between fight,
I think that he can get that kind of fight
as well. I think he can get a fight where
he's like, let me get the I don't want to
call it a tune fight because that's disrespectful to Dan Hooker. Again,
I also think Dan Hooker is gonna kill Himdan Hooker,
like he said, got all the VC points, got the tattoos.
He's a different fighter.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Yeah, and Hooker styles fights though it would favor Connor.

Speaker 6 (41:42):
Do you Hooker, do you think the snooker's a stand
up fighter.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
But but here's the thing though, It's also like you
have to add in like the ring rust and all
that kind of stuff. And I would say right now,
I think Dan Hooker is quicker to the punch, Yeah,
I would agree with. And he's also I think he's
a taller fighter than him as well, So so that's
another thing he's got to think about. Also, it's like
he's quicker than the punch and he's already longer arranged
than you. He's gonna hit you a lot quicker than
you're gonna hit him. And Dan Hooker will put his

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leg you see you have you seen him versus Dporia,
Dan Hooker Versusorio Absolute, He's willing to.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Put his body on the line whatever. I don't know
if Connor is willing to do the same.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
I was definite was different because there was just commentary
and there was no fans. Oh that's my every punch,
every shot.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
It was incredible.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I was not afraid of that.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Right now, the Apex, I need they. I need them
to get out of there, unless it's like Dana White
Contender Series. I need them to start going in front
of crowds when it comes to those fight nights. But
I will tell you the covid era UFC was beautiful,
like commentary and just you just heard the shots just
like crazy.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
But there's there was definitely I don't know, man, there's
a lot of things you can do with this one.
But I just I just think that Connor's kind of
wrapped up. I don't think the UC cares like.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
People past time, like and this happened to Tyson never
came back to say right, yeah, even still.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
When he came out of prison, when he came out
of prison, because the thing came out.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Of prison Tyson, Tyson was nasty like his first couple
of fights out, I think he started. I think he
started declining when cost them outo that.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
I just remember the Lennox Lewis fighting.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I'm like, yeah, I remember, yeah, Well let's let's also
let's also look at this though, like let's not lie.
I think I think Mike Tyson is also like even
now when like the build up to the Jake Paul fight,
his motivation is a lot.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Different than I think Connors was.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Connors was like, let me prove something of myself, and
and and make my people proud, whereas like Tyson was
just fighting himself and a demon.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Both of them were like, uh, super rich cocaine. Uh yeah,
crash out.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah what I mean, I get what you mean. You know,
it was sad scene Tyson fight like that.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Bro. I was just like, but I seen him fight
Roy Jones. I already when they were hyping it.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
It's like, oh, I seen this on ig before the
Jones fight. Yeah, we're seeing the same thing, and they've
been Oh, look at him training there. I like to
see him getting shaped the way he did at this age.
That was cool because people forget how how out of
shape he was for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
That was why I heard that was one of the
things that the reason he took the fight was he
had reason to get in shape because then he almost
died like a few months.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Oh yeah, I get it.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
But the way he was training was nothing like the
way he was performing.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
He's still he's still sixty.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
But that's also like, yeah, that's also you like standing
in front of like a non moving like heavy bag
and just like practicing hit mints and whatnot. So the
footage always looks different than when you see him in
the fight, even these UFC fighters, if you follow them
on Instagram, you see them post like training footage, see
him doing some crazy stuff, see him in the fight.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
You're like, where was that guy? Yeah? What was that?
Like Brustolee says, boards don't hit back exactly. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
That's facts, bro, Like, That's why I don't take any
of that unless I see them like live sparring with
somebody else, which is they rarely ever post Like I don't.
I don't believe any of that because you can see
them do some crazy stuff. But I I can go
against that wall right now, some crazy but.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Ahead funny.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
But I just I don't know. I think for me,
Connor is done. I have I personally haven't had interest
in watching him fight since I saw him loss. Those
dusn't poor fights. I can just see that the the
edge was gone and that karate stands Connor, that crazy
one that everybody fell in love with, that even that style.
After he fight he fought Mayweather, he leaned more towards boxing,
and I think that that's also part of his downfall.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
True, the kicks disappeared and he seems more flat footed
for sure, and like he had that bladed stance when
he was in his prime, light on his feet, started
in and out that karate style.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Heavy heavy, it's gone. The steroids wasn't helpful.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Well, to be fair, the steroids are just mainly used
as like a recovery method in his case. So for him,
off of the leg break, it was just him trying
to get back. Granted, he and then he got fucking
and then and then Roadhouse. He was like, might as well, huge, bro,
but it's still pretty it's still pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
I don't know if he's I don't think he makes
a return. I'm gonna be honest with you at this
point because then also, although that just that leg break
be the end, just make movies, bro, Just do something else.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
See, that's that's the thing back down three, that's the
thing that.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Connor was ed. Oh he was still peak Connor.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Then yeah, I think I think if things had went
a little differently and he had fought Michael Chandler at
the beginning of the summer like he was supposed to,
and he probably would have lost, in my opinion, that
would have just been an okay send off and be like, listen, Connor,
you really tried, but you unfortunately had those downfalls with Dustin.
You got into the situation here you're no longer just

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that guy anymore, and you lost. But then now that
he's having these outside of the cage things affect his image,
it doesn't make sense in my opinion, for the UFC
to align themselves.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah, they're gonna wait to see what happens with this, but.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Even I know that's the thing is, that's he's already
he's already been found like full blown guilty, and other
brands have already dropped him.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Like I don't, I don't know. Listen, I'm not seeing
the twelve.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
I know, you know, you know you know what's so crazy?
I mean, listen, listen, let's not let's again again. Like
I said, time heals all wounds in a good.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Way and a bad way apparently going to be.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
And everybody's like, I don't know if you all remember
does anybody here remember what happened of New Year's even
the former year with the beloved President Dana White and
his wife at a party?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
The thing is, you see what I mean, Like it's
the same thing with John Jones or like it's like
if you're going to be that great of a fighter.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
You are going to be tapped to a level.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
You're cracked, You're you're literally a warrior to a super extent,
Like you're way too violent to be amongst normal humans.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
And again like besides living, I will tell everybody this
because I'm not going to throw all the blame on
this one event. Look into this case, and I will say,
from what I've gathered, it's weird. Man, this the girl
was also doing a lot like it's it's weird. But
like Connor has had other instantly He's like, dude, he
like knocked out a mascot at like a basketball game.
He's like he's like assaulted other random people in the street.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah, likes not.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Helpful cocaine Connor on the internet Like like there's a
there's a lot that goes into it that's not just this,
but I think this is the nail in the coffin
type of moment.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
But everybody look into it. We'll move on.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
One last thing.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
I was gonna say, though, what about the opposite effect,
Like what if, for example, everything happens and he is
found not guilty, Like, for example, what's that actors, Dude's
name from Disney King, how you guys hear about his case?

Speaker 3 (48:44):
So, so where where's he now?

Speaker 1 (48:46):
That you're giving me the perfect example, where is Jonathan
Major's now?

Speaker 2 (48:49):
But I'm saying, but I'm saying after everything because everybody
dropped them just due to those allegations. And then because
it's more like you're guilty until proven innocent versus innocent.
So prove it exactly and listen to the internet that's
looking at this.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
I totally get this.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
To a table full of men, this is a weird
situation that we all honestly live in that I'm not
trying to sit here and be like, keep your hands yourself,
keep your hands yourself.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
But at the same time, like, let's not lie like
we do live.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
We do live in a situation where like a single tweet,
a single post on the Internet, with no credibility, no receipts,
no information whatsoever, can completely ruin someone's life. Yeah, and
then even though you then that person that whose life
was ruined has the receipts to prove that they were innocent,
they had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Gone gone so.

Speaker 8 (49:35):
Real quick To just clarify, John de Majors was found
guilty in his criminal's case, the civil suit, the show
to drop the civil suit.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
So she she skated on that because she dropped it.
But he was he was still convicted for his criminals
a couple of blocks.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah, but even but but I know, I know with
him it's a little bit differently.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
But that's why I said that he's literally giving me
the ammunition to prove my point correct where it's like
he's still like he did something wrong and he's still
not giving work. It wasn't like Disney was like, whoop
SE's will put him back as Kang. They completely were like,
we're just gonna get rid of Kang as a character.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
We're gonna reuse fucking Robert down.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
That's what I'm saying, and again and again, that's a
machine as big as Disney that can make new stars.
The US is making new stars every other week. There
is no need to bring this man back. Connor, thank
you for your contribution. When they look back in the
history books of the UC, they will see how great
of a person you are, and that is where you
will live. But other than that, right now, even if
he came back and got a glorious win, I don't

(50:38):
think people are gonna care that much, right, definitely, especially
because it's a new generation as also doesn't help that again,
at the end of the video game, the boss you
have to beat is could be point two, like he's
going to kill you with better stand up, with better
stand up like it just you see where it's like
it'd be different.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
I feel like if this was a.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Make believe world where you can in your brain be like,
oh no, because then Connor could do this and he
could beat that guy, and then he could become champion.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Like I brought up the other day.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Where it was like, there's a world where Connor McGregor
becomes champion again if Michael Chandler goes on a tear.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Now that I don't think that it's gonna happen, and
I just don't think that he's gonna He just doesn't
have space in this. Even if it was like super fights,
I can't even think of a super fight that would
make sense because in my brain immediately would be a
Dustin Poirier or a Max Holloway.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
I don't think either one of them is gonna want
to sign them again because they would rather fight each other,
right like.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Well, like like like Melvin, Like Melvin was saying the
other day, like like we were talking about this whole
situation with like Jake Paul and all these like crazy
super fights, like the money is just too big, bro,
Like the money's just too big.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
So it could happen. And you mentioned it earlier too,
like that could be his next fight.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
I just I don't know if if I don't know
if if data White is even I guess maybe he
might just take the payday just to be.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Like Connor, you go over there, I can't use you here,
I might as well get paid to use you over.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
Maybe think about fighters too, like this is my opinion,
I guess, but like I might cross the line. But
fighters it doesn't matter what crime they do. You think
fighters can get away with any crime and continue fighting.
Not like an NBA player, if you do a crime,
your career might be over.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Nah they get fine. Everyone will just get fine. Or
you can't get away with every any crime no matter
what you bet off someone's ear yeah publicly yeah yeah
yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Word. The one where it's crime and we we love
was breaking up earlier was in time. In time. When
you look.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
All of them, it's like it's like the same thing
as like it is like looking at like I said,
John Jones' record, you see that one, you see the one.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
But if you go back, like all right, it's the
same thing with like Connor in time.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
As time progresses, maybe they just hear this big fighter
that and you look into it, you'll.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Be like, oh, this is yeah.

Speaker 8 (53:08):
Fun fact Tupac was also convicted of rape, just letting
you all know.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
That was definitely anyway. Yeah, but you see it. But
then again, I didn't lose that. I don't think. I
don't know. I just I just think.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I just think the U see the UC is just
gonna end up moving on.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
I think that they're they've gotten to the point where
they have enough stars right now that they don't need
another Conor McGregor, even though they use him as the pedestal,
and just like moving on.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
You see three ten uh at the bottom now I'm
talking about.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
So you'll see three ten is coming up December seventh.
It's gonna be a great card. Now, this one's had
a little bit, a little bit of turmoil. Obviously, it's
supposed to start off, it was supposed to be bal
Mohammed versus shot Cut Rock banoff but unfortunately doing an injury.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
But I don't know if you've seen the photo, but
that toe toe looks messed up.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
He's like he's like an inside infection in his toe
and admit it like huge, not look good, but he's out,
so shot goat being the savage that he is with
all the wins that he has and no losses that
he has.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
He was like, give me who's next. I don't care.
So he called out everybody, and everybody everybody said, I'm good,
thank you. You are a killer. I've seen you murder
people in the octagon.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Sid One person decided to stand up, though, and that's
Ian Machado Gary.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
So now we got very brave. But Ian, I guess
they're both putting up there. You can't.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
When they come into the octagon with the hats and
they put the hat on the Joe Rogan, you already
know that guy is the winner. So that one's gonna
instead of being the instead of being the main event,
they got bumped down a coal main event. And now
they moved up Alexander Pantojia versus Kai what's his name?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Kay Asakura? Now I said that name, you don't know
who he is a lot of people don't know who
he is.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Kai Sakura is a two time what did I say earlier,
not Pride, Yeah, two time Rising champions because we were
talking about Pride before the cameras fired up.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
He's a two time rising champion.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
He started his career when.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
He's like eighteen and just a beast, bro, Like I
think he's like twenty and six or something like that.
It's it's insane that he's he's young. He's like thirty
right now, so he's in his prime and he's just
been handling people. The only person of note that I've
seen on his record that I can think that most
people now would probably remember is going to be like
Mono Cop. He's somebody that's currently in the UFC that's
currently fighting.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
For a title.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
It seems like with the credentials that Kaya Sakura has gotten,
he's managed to win himself a debut title fight, which
you rarely ever see.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
You must be that, nigga, you must you must be
like he did, like a title fight like that. Nobody
knows who this guy is.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Somebody exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
So it's it's crazy that they were like, you got
the shot, bro, but you have to look into him, like, wait,
he's twenty one in the four right now. That's that's
his record right now. He's been doing pretty good, man,
But that that's gonna be the main event. Both Has
he fought any pantoses? No, but I think that that's
gonna be his there's gonna be a scrap. So I guess,
I guess we've kind of normally we give we.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Give you the option.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I'll give you the option anyway, even though we've already
kind of started talking about it. Would you rather start
from the first fight of the night and work away
up or would you rather start at the main event
and work away.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Down first fight of the night.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
All right, so then we'll put this on the back burner.
We'll get back to it. That's that's yeah. So so
we'll start with the first fight of the main card.
So we're gonna start with Nate the Train Baby coming
to the UFC. Nate Land War versus Troy do Ho.
That was gonna be a good one. I like Nate
the Train. I feel like he's gonna be a He's
an exciting fighter to watch. I don't know if you
guys have caught any of his other fights. He's been

(56:38):
mainly on like fight nights every now, and I think
he's gone like one UFC pay per view recently, but
not like he's the main event. But for sure up
becoming guy, very exciting and just somebody is willing to
go forward. But like, uh, I forget what this dude's
nickname is chew ho doi and I think they call
him chew do hoo. He call him something else and
somebody else that just fought recently is a similar name.

(56:59):
But I guess backwards, I think is he the Korean.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Super Boy, the Korean super Boy.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Yeah, he's the Korean super Boy. Yeah, Korean super Boy.
This is a beast bro.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
He is currently fifteen four and one I've seen. I've
seen a few of his like highlight clips. Very exciting fighter,
very like h dynamic, a striker. I think he's gonna
be somebody that's gonna give Nate Landmar a bit of
a struggle. Nate isn't somebody that's been like killing people
by the way, like to those of the you that
don't really know he's He's just one of those guys
in the roster. Unfortunately, I feel like that's what it is,

(57:29):
you know what I mean? So this is gonna be
a good fight. No, none crazy, So you know, just
tune in, we'll move on, you know, I know Mitchell next.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
So we got though.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
This one's gonna be one that we were talking about
even before the camera shouted up. This is Bryce Mitchell
versus Chrome Gracy.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Now, last name I mentioned it Gracy, Legendary Gracy, the
Gracy Family, the original Gracy family.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Yeah, that's this guy. Does he live whosron is Hickson Son?
Hickson Son?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, So you hear the Gracie name, you immediately think
jiu jitsu and you immediately think this.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Guy's gonna choke about. But I've seen Chrome fight before, and.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
When Chrome was in the horizon his win. Yeah, well
that's the ones he got to the UFC.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
It no, because that's a That's the thing is that
the last time I saw him fight, he was butt
scooting across the octagon because he didn't want to strike.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
He needed it to get to the ground. Because that's
the whole thing is jiu jitsu.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
When the UC first started, the Gracie Family was like,
We're gonna send a representative of jiu jitsu to basically
go and show these guys that jiu jitsu is king,
and because nobody had seen jiu.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Jitsu before, it worked out really really well.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Now that people start off training with M M A,
which is the full round base of everything they learned
jiu jitsu, and they learn how to defend stuff. So
when you have somebody that's like, I'm not going to
the ground with you, bud, and then your only thing
is going to the round, you're kind of screwed. So
I feel like we were talking about this earlier. Yeah,
exact exactly, Like listen, I'm one that Like even earlier

(58:57):
in the episode, I was talking about like playing to
your strength in the in the morobs with wrestling and
stuff like that. But at the same time, if it's
not working, you got to find something else that that is.
But if it's working, keep going. But if you can't
get it, you can't get them down to the ground
and finish them, stop doing it.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Yeah, it seems like if you can't submit him, he
loses by decision.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Well, I think his last fight that I watched, I'm
pretty sure that the ref had to keep standing him up.
Like I said, he was butt scooting, which is literally
he's on his butt scooting around that octagon trying to
get somebody to come down to him, and then like,
why would I do that? Don't make a whole lot
of sense. Ryce Mitchell, on the other hand, is like
a very good overall fighter, but also like very good
on the ground. Take that crazy wrestling crazy, got put

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to sleep and kind of concerned me. But who was
it that he just recently fought? Why am I blaking
this guy's name? But he reached Josh Josh Emmon Josh
Emman sent into the shadow realm.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
Yeah, oh my, he's definitely like his last two losses
were against Tuporia and Joshmon.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
No, he's fighting the.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Best of the best because he was one of the
guys that people were expecting him to go for a
title shot like last year. I think around the end
of last year they were expect acting him to be
in the title picture. Josh Shammitt mad him on the
right hand, and that did not happen until he was
to watch that fight. Yeah, it's bad, Like the commentary
team is like, is he's still not up, like trying

(01:00:12):
to be discreet about him, like he's still moving broking
about He's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Still he's like so much is so bad, But I
got Bryce Mitchell in that one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yeah, I just feel like crone is two one dimensional
and as in a sport like this where it's literally
mixed martial arts, you cannot be He's real.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Big on the mixed part, bro, Like, you cannot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
You can't be one dimensional unless it is a dominating factor.
But even then, I find the only one that you
can really be like that is wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Yeah, even striking, like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
Exactly like can't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
They can't do nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Like we were talking about earlier, John Jones versus Alex Peira.
You know, as great as a striker as he is
in the amount of people he's knocked out, We're waiting
for the takedown from John.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
They haven't gave him. They haven't given.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Alex no and that everybody's that's the believer they're they're
running the world for what reason. The combat sambo apparently
is the one right now until somebody figures out a
way to get around it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Like yeah, we brought up the knees to the to
the grounded opponent.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
We haven't really seen that used as much, so maybe
we'll see it a little bit more, but so far,
I haven't seen anybody come up with something that's able
to I.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Guess challenge the combat Sambo from the Mountains of Dagastan.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
We'll see, We'll see if somebody comes up with somebody.
But I got Bryce Minchell on that one. I don't
I don't think kron is going to do too much
in my opinion. Next up on the card, we got
Cyril Gon versus Alexander Volkov.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Okay, I'm excited for this one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
This one's going to be a great fun. Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Heavyweight doesn't have a lot of names that you get
excited to see, and I think both of these guys
are a fantastic matchup, especially since Volkov recently has been
on a tear. He's been the one that people are like, oh,
he's getting that title shot next, Like he lost.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
As Ye rosen Struk, he's pronounced that Romanov. Of course
he's been falling off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
But yeah, the last win, even that when was a
crazy one when there was the two Russians going up
against each other. Yeah, I thought was like, yo, I'm
sick and tired of this. I'm going back for my title.
Not doing enough he was getting and he was getting
frustrated in that fight just because Volkov again. The link
in reach of a fighter matters a lot, the fact
that he's able to stick that jab and keep you

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at range. And with uh Pavlovitch's whole thing is landing that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Bomb on you, and he can't reach you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
He can't do much.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
So it's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
But now you have two dudes that are both I
think like six four or whatever they might be like,
let's see who's your.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
Pick on this six and sixty three. The gun has
beat him the last time. I think I think they
like he adapts.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
In some way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I think that Volkov is going to adapt to the
way that they fought last time. And I think we're
going to see a little bit more grappling from Volkov,
and I think.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
He's gonna take it by decision. I agree because he.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Listens is great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Is great, but like world listen the John Jones fight removed,
and I guess even with Francis managing to wrestle him
and Vanessa like that pretty much just jumped on him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
He did.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
He did no finish.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Derek.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
I think that was his best.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
He does really well. So that's why I'm intreated to
see this fight. I think it's gonna be a good like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Even though I know I know this man Volkov has
been killing it right now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Well, Sarah gun as well, Silgan is the younger guy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
What are you going with?

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
John Jones experience, that's helpful.

Speaker 6 (01:03:33):
That's a tough one, honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Because well John Jones experience all forty seconds, like he
literally went in, I gotta go, I got.

Speaker 6 (01:03:42):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
I think if Cyril's busier on the feet, I think
he's more technically sound the Volkov.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
He's quicker on the feed.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I think for sure, I think he could win if
he's the busier fighter. Yeah, but if not, well that's
why I think that it's going to be a third round.
Vocalf That's why I went with Volkov because, like you said,
he's a busier fighter and everything. That's why I said
he's gonna be grapple heavy. If he's smart, he'll be
grapple heavy. I'll at least try to get him in
the clinch, like trying to land some strikes there. But
Volkov is also like he's a good kickboxer as well. Yeah,

(01:04:10):
he's not no joke on the feed either.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
This is definitely and he's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
The taller fighter. He's the taller fighter as well. So
who knows man as he's six six this I'm good man,
I'm good, I'm good, But I mean the older fighter.
But by two years thirty six versus thirty four, and
at a heavyweight you go into your forty five an
nobody don't care a right. It is crazy to see
though that cil Gon's only two losses are like the
two I guess greatest heavyweights Francis and John like, yeah,

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pretty wild, but I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
And he was the champion before. I don't think it's
gonna be like a That's why I said decision.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Don't think it's gonna be like a blowout way. I
just think you know that'll be like the edge.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
Yeah, it'll be closely contested.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
We got odds yet on that one. Anybody has anybody
seen odds on that one? I feel there's got to
be something out right now. I mean usually usually the
UFC will put some some good some good odds on
that one. If you had a guess right now, who
do you think is the underdog dog?

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Say?

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
I feel like Cyril gone off the loss cyrilh Ghana
think one ooh Cyril Goan is a minus two ninety
so he's the favorite in this one. Volkov's a plus
twenty two thirty five.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
All right, So I guess more people, more people are
picking sel Gone to come off that loss and be like, nah, dog,
I don't know, I'm taking this sitting down.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
Besides, I feel like the public at least like besides
John joneson aspinall, I feel like they.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
See I will see that. I mean, I mean to
be fair. He he definitely is. Like I said earlier,
these heavyweights man a diamond dozen. They're not the most
athletic people. So when you see somebody that like looks
like a superhero like Cyril Ghan does, and he's light
on his feet, hits hard, and he's he's just dancing around,
You're kicking you, breaking you down like bit by bit

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before he knocks you off, I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
But then Volkov, I don't know. He's just kind of
been on this like resurgence. He's been around for a while.
He's looking If you go in and you look at
the names, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Fairy experienced forty eight fights.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
That's the only reason I give him the slight edge
is that it's fourteen fights. I see him being like,
let me play this smart. Let me get him tired,
go up against the fence a little bit, wrestle him
up a little bit. We saw that now his two
losses come via being grappled and wrestled, whether it's just
France is sitting on him or it's John Jones choking
him out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
How did I know the odds? I'll probably bet my
money on Vocov though.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
I think that's a smart like, that's a smart plan
for Volkov to go, like, because yeah cleared, I think
Cyril is like technically more sound on the feet sure
for grappling wise, I think it would be a smart
game plan.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
If you look at him with me, Cyril gun is
let me get my distance and let me get these
kicks off. Let me keep you at bay like kind
of like a like a wonder boy almost where like
you said earlier with Condor, the darting in and out
like that's kind of his thing. So for Volkov, even
though he is the taller, lengthier fighter, I feel like
he'd want to keep it a little bit more dirty.
Get in his face now necessarily like boxing in his face,

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but like clinch work, get him up against the cage,
tire him out and then from there you work on
him in the later rounds of like round two or three.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
But we'll see how that one goes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
I'm gonna go a Vocov on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
I feel like I got I got a good feeling
about this one. But then the fight's gonna start. He's
gonna get shadow run.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Then I'm gonna have like what you say, money on Bokov.
But I think I think, all right, you got don't
lose your money. A close fight with the underdog is
kind of it's hard man on a street.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
That damn Crome grazy is a plus three ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
I'm not even gonna bet on that one. That's that's
a waste of money. Losing big, big time, big time.
All right, crazy up next. Now we got the code made.
Now this one's gonna be insane.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
So we got the O and O.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
We got shot Cock rock Man off versus Ian Machado Gary.
Now I got shot Cock off off Rip. I'm just
gonna say that off Red. I do think that Ian
is going to present some issues for him in the
first round, but then after that it's all shot cut
and I think he's going to finish him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
I think on the feet.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
We're gonna see Ian, you know what I mean. It's
the clinch work.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
You saw how what he did against man. Why am
I blanking on this guy's name?

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Yeah, like Page no, no, no, no, not if Neil, Yeah,
Jeff Neil when he did against Jeff and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Neil standing choke.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
But also before that, he was he had him like
he couldn't go anywhere, and he was just kneeing him
until he had to give up and fall into the choke.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
So general is good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
And then if you look at shot couts record, not
only is he undefeated, they're all finishes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
They're both undefeated. Yeah, but Ian is won by decision.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
At least some people have managed to put the pace
on him and keep him at bay where Shot guts like, yo, yeah,
I cannot bro, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
It was like a split decision too, So.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
That was a close fight. This man is from stand Dude.
Everything I pulled, I pulled his page up. It's literally
a different language, bro. Baldy also be the same people.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
That I forgot his name of Ian, Yeah, he'd be like, well,
they're they're in the same way class. So they fought
a lot of the same guys like Neil, the winds
are like the way he's winning is a lot better.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Submission Ko submission submission just.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Choking the ship out of people, choke, spinning, hook, kick
and punches.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Yeah, I don't, I don't know, Man. I think I
think he's I think he's kind of taking that one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
I'm not gonna lie buy money on uh rock Mono.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Rock Mono, shot cut rock man off.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
See look at this, Bro, even this I'm on, I'm on.
I'm on the UFC's website right now, right right underneath.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
What does that add for.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
A WrestleMania I'm telling you, I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
We were not. But then.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
I'm just saying it's these little small things that i'm
telling you are leading up to it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Yeah, we already partners.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Bro. We got eighteen to Oh shot cut rock Monov
versus fifteen to o Ian Gary Ian Chattle, Gary represented Ireland,
shot cut Rock mount of represented.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Who's bekas Stan He's coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
With the hat from from what I seen, so, Shapcott
has the reach advantage and the leg advantage. But it
seems like realistically Ian is just a little taller than
him by like two inches. I don't know, Man, Ian's
really good on the feet, Like striking wise, he's a
very dynamic striker. He's definitely like let me get in
and out, piece you up and like wear and tear
Shotcot is just like a unrelenting force, like he's just

(01:10:40):
coming at you with everything he has, and like the
Cardio was there, he's gonna this is only three rounds.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
He's gonna be locked in for those three rounds. WHOA,
actually is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
It three rounds of five? I think it's three if
I had if it makes sense for it to be three.
But then that's crazy because that's another part of it.
He trained for a five round fight against Ball and
now he gets the drop.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
I do a three round fight. So this this dude's
coming in and Ian's coming in on short notice as well.
That's like a little breeze.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
But if Ian wins this to the title, we go
to the title, we go, which is what he wanted.
So it could be a big payday for Ian. That's
why I love these like coming in in a week's notice.
I love those guys, Love those guys because he's the payout.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
The payout is crazy, bro, Like the payout is too
crazy for you not to like how much money you
think d and got.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Paid for six hours pulling up like crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
You just get paid and then you have to watch
the fights. Why not?

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
What wouldn't you?

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Why wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
What wouldn't you, especially because like after a while, you're like, no,
they're not pulling out like I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
It's rare that you see somebody like, oh, a few
hours before they couldn't make it and they had to
pull out of the fight. But for the most part
you SAWID.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
But I think this was a good move for him,
especially because he's technically filling in for a champion. It
also shows that he's like, now I'm ready to step
into this life. No for sure if he wins this, well,
if he wins this, then I guess Thelalls next fight
has to be against Ian. He wouldn't fight shot cut
because shot Gout just lost exactly. I also like, I

(01:12:06):
also like the against Ian. I I could see him
being Ian, but I think.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Rip it from his hand.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
I think that would that would be a good I
think I think.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Was gonna take them both.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Bro Well, his thing is the Corey Sanda Haagen way,
where he's like, if I'm going to be the champion. Anyway,
I'm gonna have to fight these guys anyway, I might
as well fight you now, Like he's like, I'll fight
anybody and everybody, whoever you think is a threat.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
I'll take them all. Now, that's the best mentality is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
At the same time, with Corey Sandahagan, he also lost
against Umar, so now he doesn't get his title shot
because he decided to be that way.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
So it's a gamble you're playing. It's a gamble you have.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Remember Shotgut was supposed to fight for the title, so
he already has the guaranteed. He could just be like,
let me wait until lall is good and we'll run
that back. But instead he's like, no, I'm ready to
fight now. Let me just kill somebody real quick on
the way over and yeah, have you ready?

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
You ready?

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Are you ready? He's like, that's a crazy word he does, Yeah,
I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Like, like, you gotta understand with these fighters like yo,
you always have like a certain window to really make
your bread and like leave your stamp in this game,
you might as well get it out of the way
as soon as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Like, in my opinion, I feel like in your health, bro,
like you don't know how you're going to be feeling
like a year later from the exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Went from being one of the most active fighters in
the UFC possibly going to just rip the title from
someone's hands, to like having whatever medical issues he was
having out for who.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Knows how long recently the gym and break your toe.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Yes, yeah, all kinds of stuff could happen to you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
So that's why if you're ready now, not for sure
for sure, because at the end of the day, like
like you said, anything could happen at any moment, and
your title shot could just go away. And like I said,
as much as you're a prize fighter here to make
that money, the money comes with the title as well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
We're not going to sit here and lie.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
You could accumulate that kind of bread being like a
big name fighter that just kind of fights forever. Like
dusn't Poirier being in title fights whenever winning the title,
He's managed to make a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
But it's still the thing of like, when.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
You're the champion, you're definitely making more x amount of
money that you get, So why wouldn't you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
You feel me?

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
I feel like for me at least I think that
this is gonna be a great fight. I definitely think
this is gonna go.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Do you guys think it's gonna go under two and
a half. I think it's gonna be a finish. I
don't know's two and a half early round?

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Under a round and a half? Yeah, I say under
like around and a half. Ian's good. Ian is really
really good late I listen. Ian Ian is as much
as he gets like online.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Second.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Ian gets a lot of online hate for outside of
the cage Shenanigans and whatnot, But ian ianchadle.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Gary is phenomenal fighter.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
He's somebody that's like you want to bank on him
to like it in the long term bet of things.
I see him wearing gold for sure right now with
a man named shop cod Rock Monove in front of him.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
I don't think so, don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
But but in the future it's there, you take your
all here, you take a win there, and Gary wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Defensively good offensively. I haven't seen it used enough.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
I feel like for the most part it's been a
lot of like clinch work and just avoiding getting taken down,
less of like him being like, let me actively go
and go for the single leg and get you down. No,
that's why I think shaft got is gonna rip this apart,
like he's just gonna run through them. And also you
have to remember late late notice fight as well, So
like Ian is really.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Ian is betting a lot on this.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
It is it is a it is a title shot,
it is his undefeated streak. It's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
So that's why I like it's a big win for him.
Movie wins submitted.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
H he's a good he's a good fighter. He's a
good fighter. That's why I think it's gonna be a
good scrap. But like Chaffcotts has shown me too much
of like being able to like take apart these guys
and find the finish. That's the that's the part to
me that matters the most. It's like Ian has an
undefeat a streak. They're off by what was it like
three wins apiece eighteen fifteen eighteen and o versus fifteen

(01:16:05):
and three wins apiece. Those are three more finishes technically,
way more finishes. Actually, if you look at the total
record than Ian has. That's why I'm like, it's not
the heavyweight. Oh he got lucky landed a punch and
clipped them. No, he is systematically breaking these guys down
and then getting the finish. That's why I'm like, I

(01:16:26):
don't know, man, that's like shot kind of kind kind
of kind of you got to break it up rock
mon Off.

Speaker 7 (01:16:37):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
I think it's gonna be rock Mono vised and I
look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Oh no, no, no, shot rock Monof and he got Also,
he's one of those dudes that comes in with the
fancy hats. After he wins, he gives it the rogan
So I said, that's a wrap only people are using.
Bro Yeah, coming with it's it's it's in the in
the queue plus two hundred and fifty points. I don't

(01:17:02):
care what the points mean, but it's plus win and fifty.
If you come up with a crazy hat, I don't
care what it is. I agree they all get this
crazy aura, but put it on they win. I don't
know what it is, all right, Remember in his hat
could even when he was talking to who was it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Michael, Oh, I was telling you to get closer to
the mic. Yeah, oh my bad. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:17:23):
Remember when he was fighting who was it? He was
talking to me. He was like, I gotta fight for
the title. You know this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
I deserve this. Yeah, who is he talking to? Oh no,
it wasn't Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
No, no, no, no, Michael, I know you're talking about.
He was like literally on the floor like letting him know.
It's like trying to like to quit, like he was
giving him a chance, like to give up. And then
Michael Johnson, Michael Johnson, I thought you meant the commentator talking.

Speaker 6 (01:17:48):
Okay, okay, after the title I deserve this love.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
He kept fighting back. It's like, okay, you're talking to
Michael Johnson.

Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
I love that part that they like just hearing them
like the commentary, Yes, we need we need a mic
while they're there, like, bro, we need a mica.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Is different. It's not basketball talking.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
It's different. It's like, yeah, completely different. They have like
which I want to mic on basketball too. But that's
why that's why I give the PFL like credit what
they have the smart cage because they have cameras all
around on the bottom as well as the top, and
then they also have mics all over the place.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
And then the refs also have like an additional mic
and have the camera on them.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
I think it's the camera and one right here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
So you get a little bit more. Yeah, literally, you
get a little bit more like uh in the cage
talk as well. It wasn't like you got that with
the COVID era. But that's because it's like everybody was
so you can hear everything in there. But like, yeah,
I agree, Mike would Mike and there would be dope, Bro.
Not everybody talks to the smack like like you got
you got every down and you get somebody that's like
really chirping in there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
But I'm not always no, but you know, it's more
it's more personal.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
I forgot that other UFC fighter who'd just be making
jokes while he's in there, Kevin Holland. I wasn't Kevin Holland,
but I don't know, bro, mic and there would.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Kevin Holland managed to land himself the nickname loud Mouth
for that reason.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Yeah, I feel like that one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
That one makes sense, you know, all right, So then
moving on to the next one, and I just got
to like, this is just kind of throwing me off
a little bit. So I'm looking at like the I'm on, no,
this is UFC's page on ESPN's it's weird to me
that they're showing that kaya Sakura's record is just zero,
zero and zero, So I don't know if I guess
Rising is under like a different one. So you got
something different here yet, so you got twenty one and fourth.

(01:19:26):
That's what's showing up in me earlier. But then when
you go on UFC's website, it says that he's zero
across the port.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
UFC know because they bring in other people's professional records
from like whatever they fought on previously.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
That's weird that they put them like that. But anyway,
we got the current champion.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
This is the the going to get it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
I think it's going to be the title fight of
the night. Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
We got Alexandra Pantojia versus kay Asakura. Kayas like I
mentioned earlier, is somebody who's coming over from Risen or
Rizon as a Japanese MMA organization.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
They have slightly different rules. What was that They have
slightly different rules over there, like needs to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
A grounded opponent has been allowed for a while and
stuff like that. They don't allow elbows and things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Some rules thats are gonna be a little different for
him coming in.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
But like from what I there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Yeah, this guy has been on a tear though he's
only had a couple of losses in his entire career,
and he's been fighting since he's eighteen. He's at a
prime age of thirty, which is apparently the prime to
be a UFC or MMA fighter in general.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
So he is, in my opinion, is managed.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Listen, we have no idea who really this guy is,
but he's managed to build enough cloud outside of the
UFC made a title shot off Rip.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Off Rip, they must have seen something crazy like yo, yeah, well,
like I said.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
But no, Cop is the only guy that I can
that I saw on his record that I recognized as
a UFC fighter.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
That is, like he's fought everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
He's been like big japan names but like I don't
know who they are, but he's been smoking these dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
He must have like whopoped ip Man or something bro
to get a.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Title shot like off Rip, doesn't think is like a
lot of a lot of these A lot of these fighters,
like for the most part, when they come over from
other places, they have to fight at least one like, uh,
I don't remember because it's been a minute ago, but
I think Michael Chandler was the current Belator champion when
he came over, or at least a former how to
fight at least.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Dan Hooker he was a belotara, but I.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Don't remember if he had the I know he was,
I just don't know if he walked away with the
belt and then went to the UFC.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Or he lost and then went to the UFC. Yeah,
that's a good question. That's the only part I'm like.
But either way, it's still like, for the most part,
you gotta you gotta let the.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
Fans know who you are before you go up and
like it though like it brings some different like mysterious
hype to it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
It does for sure, because then it's also the fun
part about this stuff is that if, depending on the
relationship to UC has a rise, we may not even
get to see like his highlights when they do the
build up, they'll only show his training footage.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
If you notice that with some of the guys.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
They're like brand new, like Alex Perrero, they didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Show a lot of his like glory kickboxing stuff, the
killing people because they weren't allowed to. So you would
see him hitting pads and you're like, oh, this guy's
or whatever. They see him flying knees something shadow who's
like what if he it's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
If he wins his fight, he's just boosted.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Like this is I think two things. He's already been boosted.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
This is the new regime and now we already are
having it a little bit. But we're gonna see a
lot more influx of like Japanese fighters, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would love to see bulla fight somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
They always tew him in like fights with other guys
that are like similar, and I'm just like, you know what, I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Him money for it, yeah, full chain on, like he's
that guy. This is a real photo. U.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Yeah, I think that I think if he wins, if
ka a girl manages to win, I think that he
definitely brings in a lot more Asian fans and a
lot more Asian fighters as well, which they're already doing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
We talked about this, I think the last episode. I'm
not entirely sure. Last week. I guess this past weekend
it was a UC fight night.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
I don't know if you noticed that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Shit started at three a m.

Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
With the.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Let me tell you this was Yeah, we watched it
at night like a.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
Like a person.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Yeah, but there was a lot of There was a
lot of crazy, crazy knockouts, a lot of very high athleticism.
I'm excited, Like I didn't know who any of these
fighters were, because they do I'm trying to remember what
it's called it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
I think it's called Road to UFC.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
But they basically have like think of like Ultimate Fighter
and they don't what Contender series, but they have it
over in.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Asia and there was a lot of Asian fighters. Well, yeah,
they have all over the place and they come in
and that that's they do. It's like a tournament that
they do. Song getting knocked out, like the music got
knocked out of him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
It was like a spinning I see someone get kicked,
you know, spinning back kick by a guy named Muslim.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Yeah, Muslim beat songs. Forget who the fighters were.

Speaker 5 (01:23:47):
Someone kicked the face so fucking hard and you heard
it like so loud, and the dude tried to pretend
like he brushed it off.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
But I realistic.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
I think it was the song guy bro.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
I think so it was early in the fight. It
wasn't like when he got knocked out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Yet, Well you're talking about prelims, or it might have been.
It might have been There was a few knockouts and
also you're talking.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
About Muslim Solikov knocking out song Kanan.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Yeah, Christy, I don't know what music. It was sweet
chin music. He got knocked out. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
The heartbreak, Yeah, that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
Wasn't nothing hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Yeah, he was laying on the floor like this and
he was just like, no, you're not okay, just don't
do it again. Just give me a minute, Give me
a minute.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:24:37):
At least he got up quick, like I've been punching
the face, but I haven't been kicked in the face.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
That must be crazy, I know. I think it's one
of those things you don't you don't know that it happened. Yeah,
when you like anybody chao.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
It doesn't seem like they register what happened, Like they
grabbed the rap after they're getting picked in, like where
are we? Like they just really just don't know what
just happened. That dude that got spinning, he'll definitely did
not know what.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
Kick you meet him, I'll kick.

Speaker 6 (01:25:08):
He's not gonna be a rushed out with yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
Yeah, yeah, but it was pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Also, figure he lost he did too, He did to
that was so that one they went off round I
was at the Bobbershop.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Just just before this watching that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
I think that for me, that's a fight that the
winner gets a prize of a title shot. But there
was no loser. Yeah, because they it was. It was
a good fight.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Gerado has just been such a savage in this new
weight class, and I think that you just let him
keep going and he'll get there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
He'll get another shot of anything. He'll probably has buller.
The buller got him.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Bro, they got ankle lock shot.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
I feel like he's been He shows up every now
and the until the UFC events, but I haven't seen
him in a little bit what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Look now ever, since that little cat what looked like
he was like.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Yeah, yeah, they were like, give.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
You get that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
He's like twenty by now. There was a clip that
like Tyson fixed him up like that lady. He's like,
I'm a grown man, put me down. I look like.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
I love seeing them with guns.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
It's so it's so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
Bro, he's working some guns. I think it's the craziest.
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
But all right, so do you guys want to see
the crazy upset in this one with a newcomer come
in and knockout or submit Alexander Pantoja or do you
got Pantoja winning this?

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
I got Pantoja winning, But it would be nice to
see sleep on Pantosia. I don't understand why Steve Versa. Yeah,
Steve car what he looked like.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Actually fun with him to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Know Steve like I had him win it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
Yeah, me too. He was a sleeper going into this fight.
I feel like he because listen, I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Like one twenty five it was Brandon Moreno and and
Davis Sifa Garedo for a while, going back and forth,
back and and it got to the point where everybody
kind of forgot about everybody else in the division. So
now that these two are kind of like we're over
here and we're getting to see all these other guys,
people are like, woo you again, yeas.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Been on a tear. Yeah, well he's a nice overall fighter.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
But now we're just seeing you know, these guys that
they're like, this is how you know it's gone bad.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
They gave him a title shot off of the debut.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Yeah, that's how you know that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
They're like, we're running out of names here. We need
somebody to kind of fill it and make it crazy.
But granted, is a smart marketing move. It's a it's
a big like let's get these Asian fans over here
and let's get some names on here.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
So it's not like when they've been the NBA ming over.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
To the Yeah, precisely. You just know that there's such
a big market out there that why would you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
It's the same thing we talked about with like uh
UFC Africa where it came to Francis and whatnot, and
him wanting that to like be a bigger lane for
people to come in. Do you see building performance institutes
in Mexico and France and all these other places to
get like more of an influx of fighters from these plays,
So it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Like and you know how they've been doing all the
events like different Mexico.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
So the fight night was technically that it wasn't a
big pay per view, but it was it was in Macau,
so that was like most of the fighters were Chinese.
In Africa, it hasn't been Well, that's the thing is
that the one that they want to do with the.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Main event, you know you will genuinely might be it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
So the bigger issue is when it came to like
when you when you do a UFC event anywhere, like
even in the States, stadium infrastructure, highways, hotels, et cetera,
et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
You look at all that to see how much it
makes sense for you to do it in a place.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
So when you look at somewhere like Africa, they have
to look at each individual country that's in Africa and
see which one makes sense. But at the same time,
if you have a champion from there, you kind of
have to go where the champion's from. So if he's
from South Africa, you just eliminate the majority of it.
You go there and you figure out where in South
Africa can we have this event.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
That was probably the first Tho Burg I just have
like a huge card of like freaking do.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
You think they'll do it? I think they'll do a
fight in Russia. No, yeah, that'd be near nearby the
top tier uf the Russians they get that's when you see,
that's when you see the Russians pull up heavies.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
That's the closest that you'll see that will go like
over there and they'll have like people but like for
the most part.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
But what if that's a way like to stop the smoke?
Like all right, guys. Look uf.

Speaker 8 (01:29:30):
Wau by the way, the Russians were banned from the
latest Olympics.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
No, I know that's said.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
We're not really allowed in the country anyway. So I
don't know how to get over that. You will figure
it out.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
That's why I said that we'll get close by, but
I don't know about getting it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Felt like wars in general, conflicts handle like that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
Well, if you think the UFC fight, we don't have
to all die, exactly. I'm gonna ask you two questions
and it's the same answer. Who's a very big fan
of the UFC and who just recently got elected to
be the new president of the United States? Well, we
know I'm asking you the question. And who's gonna be

(01:30:08):
at those events? Big TRUMPO.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
Come in. We have to sit down.

Speaker 5 (01:30:16):
Like Trump there there and read over American fighters rock exactly,
and then whoever wins the fine, I'll we'll stop freaking beef.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
You know what I'm saying. Bro, Bring your best out.
We we gotta we gotta hit us.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
All right, tend now to to wrap up this UC
three ten card, I just have like a comment that
I want to make on this. Uh So we just
went through the main card again, I'm just gonna do
a quick little brief read through. So Nate land War
versus Choll dou hoo, we got Bryce Mitchell versus Crown,
Gracie Cyril Gon versus Alexander Volkov, shot Cut Rock Mono
versus Ian Machado Gary and the main event Alexander Pantosia

(01:30:58):
versus Kakura Outro.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
Used to be studying these names. You don't want to
take no shots.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
I'm gonna just go And.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
Here's here's my thing with this right now. I don't
know if you guys looked into the prelims and the
early prelims, but.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
This card is stacked normally, I just normally be on
this podcast. We just talked about the main card, but
I'm gonna just read off the names of the prelims.
You tell me, I feel like a couple of these
you could swap out to be on the main card,
all right, right? Yes, Randy Brown versus Brian Battle, that
definitely you could put on the main card. Mosar Evil
Web versus al Jamaine Sterling. That's the number one contender.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
Fight, if you asked.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
I'm surprised that one over.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
Yeah, since going on dropped down the nine makes no
sense to me. Bro Vicente Luke versus denbul A Rainbo.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
That's somebody who can be on the on the on
what's it called the UFC Africa car because he's a
big like rep. And then also, h what's it called?
Look at it was supposed to fight Nick dia Is
on this one, but then had to pull out and
then the I know that was there was There's no
way that was Dominic Dominic Ray versus Anthony Smith, like
I don't know, man, A couple of these, a couple

(01:32:03):
of by the way, Dominic Rays was an Anthony Smith
retirement fight.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
You think so Smith is going to retire, is gonna
take that?

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
I think takes that Smith fi advertised.

Speaker 4 (01:32:17):
Smith nothing against him, but I think he's got He's
got the commentator gig.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
He's got the gig. He's good.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
Ray Is, on the other hand, needs something to walk
away with like that that's spinning did to him. I
didn't think he was coming back. I'm gonna be honest
with you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
After he was laying flat on the canvas face first,
I was like, yeah, man, is done, Ali Smith is.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
You know what you tell me? He looks like that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
I know what is it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Terms stilled to say that one, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
Anyway market got it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
And then just one thing also, I just want to
bring up that I think it's just kind of like
showing like we're at on this one. Is Chris Widman
is fighting on the early prelims. I think it's also
about time that Chris Wineman get your win bud and
just wrap it up. Bro, you've been doing you've been
doing the commentating stuff for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
This is the first.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
Yeah, it's it's about that time.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
It's about that time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
And uh yeah, I just think I think there's a
couple of fighters on this one that I think it's
about that time.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
You wrap that up.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
You know, I don't know, man, wrap it up, Wrap
it up, box, wrap it up. It's pretty bad, pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Other than that, man, I feel like we've kind of
covered a lot of topics, some of the stuff that
I just want to go over. We already talked about
Tyson versus losing against Jake Paul. Hopefully Jake Paul just
goes up against somebody that's like around his age next time,
you know, give him an actual box.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
I want to see him against the box.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
Give him tank bro. Well, there's been a couple of Yeah,
what's this other dude?

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
Is his name?

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
No, I'm saying like another he's kind of old. He
hasn't find a while, but.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
There's called them out.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
A lot of boxers. If the paycheck clears, go for it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Because you want to talk about money fights like, those
are the ones that go for the money fights.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
You know how to get paid.

Speaker 5 (01:34:09):
So come on, man, Like last he fought a boxer, boxer,
he lost to Tommy. Tommy, come a boxer. You know
you want to be the best boxer. You want to
be fighting other people.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
I just think it needs to be this we all wanted,
we all kind of figured it was going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
But I think they need to get a couple more
like legitimate wins, and then eventually we'll see Jake Paul
versus Logan Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
Yeah, that happen.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
The beef that was I think that was supposed to
be the build up, and then somewhere along the middle
they kind of went away, and because Tyson was gonna
back out of the fight, and then that's why Logan
Paul was like, oh, I'll step in, and I guess
the last thing the end of this episode on is
always she Ming. Shout out to she Ming, who fought
on this most recent fight night. She's been my new

(01:34:57):
mythical fighter on lock. Now, I want you guys to
just do a quick she Ming is a doctor from
China whose parents have no idea that she's been an
MMA fighter for quite some time.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
And she said some shorting to the hospital and a
stretcher and to find out, she goes.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Everybody in this car just thinks I'm small, I have
no testosterone, I have bad eye sight.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
I'm the champion of this and I love her so much.
Shout out a little like cute little smile.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
She's so adorable and she's a murdering.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
I saw a video that Sherlock Holmes. I saw a
video earlier that I put it perfectly. She's a doctor
and she's an mm A fighter. She's gonna knock you
out and take care of you. The day you're gonna
wake up from your doctor.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
I got this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
I got that you're gonna wake up from your ko
It's gonna be her again and be like you went left,
You should have went right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
It's so bad you wakes up for.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
Nobody, call somebody else, No no, not you, not you,
not you, not you, but yeah, thank you everybody for
tuning in for another episode about it. Get an m
m A before we head out of here. Shout outs
as always as we do on all the other shows.
So shout out to eight h six the show. Shout
out to a Vibe entertainment. Shout out to nerd gods.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Let's hear who else can I think of? Let's let's see.
Shout out to my mom. Shout out to everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
It's Thanksgiving, by the way, I know this episode is
gonna come up past, but thank you to all of
you for tuning in. Thank you for everybody for just
checking in on us. Thank you for Melvin for being
on the producer desk the other week or every week
technically all day. Bro any shout out you guys. Have
anyone wants to take that Thanksgiving walk before we eat,
let me know. Shout out to you know this justin

(01:36:31):
justin vision, good looks.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
On you know, holding it down always, shout out. There's
one girl every time say this. Shout out.

Speaker 7 (01:36:44):
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shout out Cooky, Shout out p two p check out
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Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
Shout out Cooky.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Pulling up second episode and definitely not gonna be the
last one. Like I told you, Man, anytime you're like
those cards, just be like yo, can I come on Bill?

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
Yes, this is yes.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Always down to talking to a man, to anybody that's
out there. Again, if you want to talk to m
m A talk, reach out to any one of us
and just let us know. Man, we really don't need
you to have a background, just the fact that you
like to watch the sport.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
Yeah. But as always, thank you everybody for tuning in.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Thank you for another episode of Uneducated in May we
love you and we are out peace.