TAKE 14 - 2024 Year End Recap

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome everybody to another episode of Uneducated MMA.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm your host with the most wonder bread. I had
to bring you a year ending episode.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Granted, I know this is going to come out at
the top of twenty twenty five, but you know we
wanted to wait for the year to fully end, and
Uneducated MMA is here to bring you the Uneducated MMA Award.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Telling you, we gotta get the firework budget and we'll
figure out the pliometrics that pirotechnics. I think metrics is
like a stretching day. We'll look it up a comment section,
don't let us know. And of course I'm all joined
by the BMF himself.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
R E G. Oh yeah, we're here another year, excited,
see about to come back.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
We need it, crazy feeding bro, it's only been like
a month and a half too long. We're watching like
random every Saturday, like shaking at my window like I needed,
I need it is watching like oh fucking listen, I.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Know we already know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
We were talking, we were talking a lot of smack
about like the fight nights being kind of whack.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
But I feel like you miss them now, you know,
a good fight night would be nice. It'd be nice.
Right now, you'll see we apologize. Sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh hold on, I got aation that this just did.
Just It's like it's like the it's like the Hauant
joke equivalent. I feel like I was gonna be like
I got told, I got a letter.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
It's just breaking news, breaking news questions. That's gonna that's
gonna be the interesting breaking news.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's just a but yeah, man, we're here to bring
you the year end review. We're going to talk about
the highlights, the low lights, all the moments I cried
on my couch, in the moments I was screaming and
annoying the neighbors. A lot of degeneracy over the year.
I feel like as the years go by, I just
get more and more into the sport. I can start
to tell when I'm watching Contender series and I'm watching
like the what is it called The Ultimate Fighter and

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all those kinds of things.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
That's yeah, when you catch yourself watching bare knuckle boxing
and the little other other fighting realizing like damn' getting
deep into this.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Shout out street beefs on Youtubeah, remember World Star fucking
Street Comps. It started, man, that's when it started.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Now in the parking garagers, and do you find that
now you're seeing those like online videos getting a little
bit more technical. You feel me the fighters, I'm just swinging.
You're like that guy knows alut MoU tai.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, yeah, this is nice.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
This is video every now and then it goes like
viral on Twitter. It's just shorty who's like almost fully naked.
She's fighting some other girl in a parking lot, and
you see her getting a perfect like wrestling takedown stance,
sweeps the leg, grabs a single like drives and brings
her down.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
You're like, where did you learn that from? What was there?
It's just experience. It's either experience.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
You're like, yo, she grew up a brother something like that,
Like she just straight up just like got her with
the signal.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Like it was that reminds me super old. Video went viral.
This one white dude about to fight this one Mexican dude, right,
and then it looked like he didn't know how to
fight and garage. No, no, it was like outside street,
like like outside like outside of school or something. Right,
it looked like he didn't know how to fight. And
then he just jumped into like that stance. Yo. You
said he was like, you know, and he knocked him
out and knocked the Mexican dude out. It's wild.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I don't remember who was the comedian was, but yeah,
I'm blinking at who it was. But I know that
there was like a joke that it was just like
the moment you see them slapping their knees like they're.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Ready to do. You gotta Kevin har Yeah, you know
you gotta watch out. You gotta watch out. That's true, Bro, Downdge.
You don't know who's training.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
If you don't if you don't see the cauliflower ear
right away, you got why.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I always like for the future.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I'm planning on throwing a high kick first, just to fucking.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
You gotta throw them off the game just right. There's
a little sense of like intimidation.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
He tried to luking bicycle kick me in the beginning
of the fight.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
You gotta go local.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
He's just stretching for no reason, Like what's going on
over there? He's prepping a little different. Everybody else is
like like immediately yelling and over here, just like compared.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Getting ready to taichi. Yeah, it's too good.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
All right, guys, Before we get into the into the
rankings of everything, let's get the general feel.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
How do we feel about twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Four and the same same fighting years.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
My life facts. I feel that I wo'd agree with that.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
A lot of great moments, we had a lot of
like like I feel like moments that had you go like, damn,
like this sport is just legendary. Uncle Dana bro picking
the cards, right, yo, he ya, they they figure it out.
I'm not gonna lie the uc be figuring out. I
feel like overall in MMA, there's been a couple of
moves that have been made when it comes to other
organizations like the PFL and whatnot that I just it

(04:48):
doesn't make any sense to me. But the UFC has
just managed to make it where it's just like they
show you why.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, they know how to market it well. They know
how to like match the fights, know how to keep
you locked in and engaged in everything.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Like I said, he the fight nights that we like
every now and they were like, Hi, this isn't that good.
We're still watching I'm stilling that couch on that Saturday,
still watching every single Saturday.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
So they still got my money. Yeah, like, for example,
I love boxing. I grew up on boxing, but the
way they promote it or build it up is not
the same how UFC, Like other than Jake Paul bro
I don't know, no one's like really promoting like that
to like build up a huge fight Like UFC. They

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be building up these huge fights every week or every
other week.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Certain certain uh Panelo or like ye.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
There are those ones that definitely get like the general
public like to get into it. That's when it starts
like bleeding out into like social media and things like that,
and that's what.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
People will like tune in.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
But you also have like the you brought up like
Jake Paul, like you have the Netflix now starting to
get into sports. I know they's super crazy, I know,
but to be fair, I was told I didn't watch
the game, but I was told that the Christmas football
games went well, like there was no issue whatsoever. So
it seems like they're doing better on that WWE. What

(06:08):
is it Monday Night Raw is gonna be on there?
I start watching again, so yo, my boy shout out Gabe.
He was telling me, he was like, listen, I think.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
That now that it's on Netflix, we should get back
on the wave. He went. He went to the live
show in Boston the other day and he was like, Yo,
it was pretty late. I'm not gonna go so oh.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
What I found out is that on Netflix, not only
are they gonna show Monday Night Raw, they have everything
that ever happened.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
That's gonna be a problem wrestling history.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
So you can binge watch to how Peacock has it.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Oh, they had the is WWE network. They had like
the history of the want people.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Doing any d Royal rumbo. You can watch every royal
rumble ever. You know. See.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
My thing is I feel like I'm gonna get lost
watching the old school stuff instead of the new stuff.
Like it's been a while, I stopped watching. I feel
like in twenty ten, twenty eleven.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Once the rock bounce, I was like, all right, he'd
be back and there.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, Like John Cena was wearing camo shorts when I
stopped watching. He's back to George right now. He was
wearing the cameo with the with the military watching. I
can't even see him with the George.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I feel like that's the era.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
What you can tell George George era, we gotta bring
those back.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Tista Batista was a beast.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Bro, There's no way was beating everybody Raw Guys or
or Friday Night SmackDown.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I was smacked down. Smack Down, thy see, that's how
old we are.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Backdown used to be on Thursdays, Friday, Thursday night SmackDown.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Friday Night SmackDown was it.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
They had the Undertaker, Batista was on there, the great colleague,
Ray Mysterio.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Was on that. I think who was I think the
rock back triple Ah, come on, they did have triple ah.
Shawn Michaels was on Raw d X kind of whole thing.
They had them for a while. Radio Or and John Cena.
I used to love to hate Randy Oran. He was
that's what you know. They do a good job. They
actually were like get this man off the screen, bro.
But I was there. I love to hate Randy Orran,

(08:09):
but I really hated Kurt Angle, Like I just like, yo,
get this man out of here.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
He's perked out. Yeah, is one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Now, Nah, now you appreciate that, I don't. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
I just love that he was like that wrestling guy
from now for him, him and him and Sean Michaels
two thousand and eight Vengeance.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I had that on DVD that my mom got me
one year.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
For Christmas, and I remember that was the one where
Sean Michaels got on like the turnbuckle, put Kurt Angle
on like the announced table and just yeating himself all.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
The way over there.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, they would, yeah, with the elbow, they would do
crazy stuff here, bro and whatsoever. But shout out to them,
how do we get here from from the UFC? Because Netflix, Netflix, Netflix.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
You have seen streaming making a deal with Netflix.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
So that's what I want to see when it comes
to twenty twenty five. That's one of the topics that
I threw on here is I want to see where
the streaming rights go because it's not just them.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
There's a few people.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
That are now their contracts are up with where they're
streaming at, and we'll see if they decide to stay
with ESPN or they decide to go with one of
these other players. Because like I'm gonna be honest with you,
if the TKO group that owes the already owns WWE
has signing with Netflix, I mean it makes sense for
them to just get them as well and make Netflix huge,
like that's move.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
But they can't be buffering like that though for live events,
they can't be. What do you what do you think though?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Do you think that it's gonna be that it's just like,
you know, you have Netflix, you have access to all
this stuff, or do you think they're still gonna.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Just the premium. It's the premium, so it's just like
there's the free one with ads. Yep, there's you know,
the premium without ads, and then there's the ultra premium
if you want, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
To have live adding the sports package exactly like Hulu
does that.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Now, who look at you set up like that?

Speaker 4 (09:54):
So the Christmas football game was free, So that's what
I'm saying, Like, I don't feel.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Like it's whatever.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
If you have Netflix, you got to watch it just
to bring people in with this is the model right now,
I'm shut out charge.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Eventually you pay the monthly for ESPN Plus, you get
the fight nights for free pay per views, you still
gotta pay like eighty five or whatever it is for it.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
So like that's a little different.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I feel like if they do the same model, I
can see it, but it makes more sense for them
to have like a premium package that gives you like
a live sports like Hulu does. I'd rather pay for
that and just like not have to every month at
a whole another subscription, like it doesn't make any sense
getting into it. But as I say, Netflix has to
stop with that whole. Oh if you are at a
different Wi Fi location, yeahs again, like yo to everybody,

(10:39):
and I know you're watching right now. The am my
emails that I get of somebody trying to log into
my Netflix somewhere else and it's either a family member
or somebody that I'm like I haven't spoken to in years,
and they're just like, yo.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Use the same password, right, let me just get down.
I got it.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I'm kicking everybody off. This is the notice I'm starting
to near fresh. Everybody's getting nobody subscriptions. I'm staying with
that in my house.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Bro, Wanderbread number one. Bro.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I thought about it the other day and I was
just like, I used to like trade these, and then
I thought about it. I was like, wait a minute,
I'm paying for everything right now. I haven't traded with
anybody because they keep locking people out like that. At
this point, I'm swapping it up on you. Flat's got
to recognize where they came from Come on man, all right.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
From the streets broke and I pay for HBO and
that's the only thing I paid for.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I got everything else.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
We'll we'll talk about how you have that free after
the show, and you let me know got that jail
broken fire stick shout out Roku, Yeah, yeah, I got you,
I got you. I gotta plug it's an Instagram link.
Don't worry about it, all right, guys. So we started
this episode to talk about the twenty twenty four year
review of M M A U S.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
All right. This has been a lot of topics that
we decided to go over.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
We spent some time trying to figure out what would
be the best kind of big ones to go over.
There's been a lot of publications going over, a lot
of awards, and honestly, I think we're just gonna give
you the big ones that everybody in the Grandmother wants
to know. So we normally start our episodes where we're
talking about our UFC fight card, or we're gonna go
top to bottom.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Waiting for it, and we're gonna go how we're gonna
do it.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
So in this situation, I'm gonna leave it up to you, guys,
I'm let you guys figure it out. Do we want
to start off big with Fight of the Year or
do we want to go into the sub categories and
just kind of figure out like KO the Year.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Submission Bigger Home. I already know I'm going of us.
I already know what the year is.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Everybody's gonna have the fight of the Year, and everyone's
gonna have the same answer. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
But Max Holloway versus Justin Gatchee a u C. Three
hundred knocks of the Year, It's just a delivery of it.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
The way it was presented, it was very the.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
The entire build up to the event, the Max Holloway
was moving up in weight. People didn't know where he
was at in his career, considering the fact that it
didn't seem like he had what it takes to be
able to become the champion and his weight division. So
he had to move up and he wanted to take
on a bigger and badder challenge. He decided to go
up against Justin Gatchie, the Killer, the man that's the
human highlight reel knocking people out, left, right and center,

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the BMF champion himself, minus you it was a tall
task that he decided to take on leading up to
one of the greatest events that UFC has put on
at UFC three hundred, a mark in their history.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
And the way Holloway did it, dude, even though he
was winning, Like the whole fight he was listening was
first round, he broke his nose off.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Rip off, rip He didn't have to, Like, he didn't
have to. That's what the BMF, bro, That's That's what
I'm trying to say here. The stakes that were put
on there and the fact that this was the BMF
title and he was like, oh, if I'm winning this, I'm.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Proving it to you. And he still gave him a shot.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
He's like ten seconds left right here, right now, and
it produced I would argue, the greatest highlight clip I've
ever seen in any sport.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Of all times.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
We're talking to him, we're talking like that's on the
line too, what like there's no like, namely another sport
that you could be like and we're going to talk
about how far ahead he was to give somebody an
opportunity because in pointing systems you can't really give somebody
that option.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Here you want that phase even Brady throwing a hail Mary. Bro.
That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
If you're if you're above like only like one touchdown,
that's not a far enough gap. Like how Max has
justed like he really gave him. Here is your chance
to win this and shock to everybody.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Here's my comparison.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
You're let's say the Celtics are up twenty five against
the Lakers, you know, and Tatum's like, yo, Lebron one
on one right now, you.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Score on me, you win. That's pretty much the equivalent.
That's how I would put it.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's exactly how it put it, Like it's a it's
a right now right here, go big, go home.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
This is your one moment.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
That that is kind of crazy, Like you're sacrificing so much, bro,
he was of all the school cards nobody I would
I think I think he was up all four round
the fifth for the people exactly.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
We need to get these people a show, dude. It
was much respect on Holloway on that one.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I'm gonna be honest with you, and I can already
tell by the way that we're talking about it, this
is definitely not going to be the only time we're
gonna be talking about this fighting on this on this night.
But I'm telling you, guys, like that was a moment
to kick off the year. To mind you, guys, UFC
three hundred started off like twenty twenty four. That was
one of the first big cards of the year. So
that was a moment that just set the bar this

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high and no one was able to clear it the
entire year on my card.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
All the cards after that were like like set a
tone for like.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
What how you had to present yourself for sure?

Speaker 1 (15:44):
How you had to because then even then you saw
after that moment in other fights, whether it be a
fight night or be in a pay per view of
other people trying to be like, oh we're here, we're here,
and it didn't have the same, manergy, it didn't do it,
you know what I mean. He was just trying to
create that moment and couldn't. It was it was magical, man,
it was. It was just a moment where it.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Was gonna be forever. That's one of those moments. Now,
So was I right that I speak for everybody here?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Did you guys have a different fight of the year,
because that was that was definitely legendary.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Definitely up there, I was right.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Sounds like he's There was a lot of good knockouts, though,
like see knock Out of the Year.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
We're gonna go that's different. We're gonna go with the
fight of the year. What is the ones that's gonna
be a met fight, bro, And he proved it was
that one. It was that one. It was that one.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Listen, I'm gonna like I said earlier before we started
the cameras, I definitely had some runner ups. I'm gonna
go into those, but I would say that's my Fight
of the Year runner up. And we were watching it,
granted the mcwifi and here was kind of buffering a
little bit that bubble knock out the.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well, No, no, that that one was. That one was.
That was a crazy knockout. But the year but I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Good knock Daniel zel Huber versus at UFC was a
slug fest. Those are two guys that like straight up
showed their best abilities and they were going all all
all fifteen minutes. That one was crazy. That one was
one where I at the end of it stood up
and was clapping in my living room, like you guys
put it all on the line, like that was insane.

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After that, this is a bias Alex perere versus Khalil Rowntree.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
That was one of my favorite fights.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Hard it didn't hit Fight of the year, but man,
the fact that they were like no takedown, this is
right here, his ass off, all respect in the world
gained by everybody. I feel like you couldn't watch that
and not become a fan of his. I gotta put
him up.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Perrera doesn't have like the record right now for like
holding his like defending his belt within like I think
it's like within the most fights, like the most.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Recent I can see him having he defended a short
period of the short period of time. I can see
that happening because you got to think about it, like
like there's a with McGregor.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
We're going to talk about him anyway. Fighter of the
year for me.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Man Alex Pereira, Yeah, for sure, one of the most active.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Fighters the entire year.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Like not only is he one of the most active fighters,
but he's a champion, so he's putting a lot on
the line as well.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
He's fighting a lot of great fighters.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
All challenges welcome. Except I guess, uh, what's his name?
Not even.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
This is how bad it islive Uncle Ive is the
only one that he hasn't been able to, you know,
get his matchup. So we'll see how that happened in
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
But I don't think he's going to think he's gonna
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
There was a whole tweet that was put this is
this is why I wanted to wait until after the
actual like December thirty first, because there's like always those
last bit of news and people chirping at each other
near the ends.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I wanted to bring it up, but there was a
tweet that he put out where he was.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Just like, I'm fighting, but it's not on Calive, So like,
what are you talking about? Yeah, because you look at
the rankings, you're like, bro, you've already beat half of
these dudes already. Other than that, I don't really know
what other magic like matchup we're gonna do here. Unclive
is the number one contender and you're still saying it's
not him who will fight, Like what is going on here?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Left? So that's the thing. Beforehand On isn't even going
to go down to du plessis He was chirping.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
At him that he wanted to go down to oneity
five and fight Duplessis. But then du Plesses was like,
let me handle my business at one five and I
move up to a five and more as so I
don't know what's going to happen there.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Now he can take the blesses, you can take them on.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
I got the faith in the world and that man
like Alex got that for sure. But I'm not gonna
lie to you. Do pluses.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
This has been an impressive specimen. This man, he's good,
goofball his way. I just you think he deserves a
rematch with Strickland, or you think because that was close.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, was close again, That's that's that's pooked already, that's
won that first.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
So that's what I'm on exactly. That was close. Now
listen by decision, we need better judges this year rematch
sure one thing we definitely need twenty twenty five. Yeah,
for sure. I think we should petition holding his judges accountable. Bro.
I just think that they need to come up with
the better system. And we've talked about this a couple
of times on this episode, where.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
It's like they need to either come up with a
statement or they need to be shown or something, give
some sort of explanation as to some of their cards
when they it's that much of an issue and an
upset between the crowd, the announcers, Dana White himself.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
And the people that are watching. You need to get
That's what I'm saying, Like this is crazy.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
If they show faces for other CEOs, they should show
faces for judges.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Crazy. I think you can. I think I think you can.
Money people be betting on these ps' gonna. I think
if you like just google the name, I think that
they'll pop.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
This is a thing of like at the at the
event I see them, That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
At the event.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I feel like they should have to give like some
sort of at the press conference a statement, whether give
it to a representative because they have to be if
they don't want to but want something for all, shootout
a text something man.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I just feel like they need to be able to
like that behind the thing.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
I feel like they just be looking at the best,
like you know what for my parlay? Nah do plus
he's won this one. What's is definitely manipulates the sports.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah for sure, But I don't I don't know because
sometimes it's it's like it's like close line bets anyway,
But it's still the decision. You're just like, what is
going on? So it's like you don't see the money
in it. I guess I don't know. It's weird.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
How how long until we get AI judges?

Speaker 1 (21:18):
So Dana White's already Dana White's been asking for it,
that he's already been in talks with people about starting
to get the AI judges. I feel like you're already
seeing some other sports start to Yeah, there.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Was a heavyweight fight. Was this big dummy keeps losing
what's his name again? And Fury Yeah damn yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Fury against the last is the one who just lost.
They had an AI judge. Obviously it was a landslide,
so the AI judge didn't make a difference.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, it was who correctly. I feel like I'm gonna
be honest with you. It's kind of that idea of
like I would like it to be like a like
a part of it. I'm gonna I'm not gonna say.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I wanted to be the ornament fully exactly, not a
pudge just because I feel like a I can still
be because I'm also not going to lie to you guys.
And I think I said this before. I don't know
if it was on here we were just bullshitting.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
But I also feel like, give me the Roman colisseum.
The crowd matters. If the crowd is like thumbs up,
you know what I mean. Like that's why it's like
comes to decision with the judges, like, yo, let the
crowd choose bro the crowd is there if.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
It's split, I think genuinely they should have like Bruce
BUFFI come in and go this guy or this guy
and the crowd wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Who was it? Buckley? That was like I want the
crowd to pick my.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Next next Yeah, he was like, I got whoever is
the most loud he's got I got three choices and
he was able to give them all out. And I
think that Usman fights a good fight for that.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Would be a good one because it was it was
Usman and Leon.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, that's exactly what I think that I think honestly
Usman or Leon I think, but I don't think he
gets title shot yet. But I think that Usman makes
the most sense. I think Leon he bro like he
was the former champion. He deserves a more ranked opponent.
I think Woking Buckley would be a good fight, but
I think at just a higher ranked opponent.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
What were you asking who was USMA's last fight?

Speaker 1 (23:12):
It was hamzap It was the one that was three
rounds where near the third like it went to the decision.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
But in the third round, people were like Usman was
putting it on him.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
And then they were like, if this was five, we
don't know if this would have gone a little different.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, I remember that, so Usman's still in it.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I don't know, man, but I think that Wauking Buckley
is gonna be like a test form for sure.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
I think that, yeah, Buckley is a problem bro.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
So bro, I'm gonna we're gonna get to talk about
He's quick, a little bit, straight muscle.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I feel like we're gonna jump around a little bit. Guys,
excuse us, you know in our tandents follow Long twenty
twenty five. I think that walking Buckley is gonna be
my like breakout start. I think he's gonna be the
one that's gonna like really move up in the in
the way class. He's really gonna show he belongs in
the top five. Do I think it's gonna be straight
shots to the title. No, because man, there's some killers

(23:57):
in that top five, But I do think that he's
going to.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Make a very big Do you think they're gonna be
a bigger problem for him? Shof Cut m oh rock Monoff. Yeah, listen, yeah,
I can see that.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
One of the one of the fights that I have
on my list of fights that I want to see
in twenty twenty five is Mohammad versus shot Cut Rockmanoff.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
But I'm telling you so, I know, I know, I know.
It's not even it's not even. It's not even that
it's it's for me.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
It's it's the fact that I saw shaft Cut versus Gary,
and I know that shaft Cut went into that thing
a little injured.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
But like Gary gave him some game with the work.
I think.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I think people really like Mohammed bro blalla is and
he's he's been in the Mountain State kuld be.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
But even even the security sleeps on them. Bro. That
was bad. That was so bad, that poor guy. They
were like, that's the champions.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
I don't know. I was impressed by Islam's fight. Yeah,
how dominant. Not I wouldn't say dominant, but like the
way he the way he just kind of dominates his opponent.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, And like, and then I.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Was impressed even more when I saw Yeah, I was
just Jesus Christy all.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Bro, I'm not gonna lie like it's not one of
the categories, but Coach of the Years, coach kuld be.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Coach k is definitely coach. Coach was a guy. Coach
was a difficult get a little way, and he's jolly
and happy. He's putting these boys to work. Bro. He
was just like he was talking to DC. He's like,
you have to get him to come and stop it, bro,
Like I need a day of rest man, Like.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, yeah, all of it, all the content of them
even talking.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's fantastic. Roasted brothers are funny. He's real funny. People
just sleep on it. Man, He's real funny. But how
many belts you got? These type of belts? He was?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
He was there was a thing where who was it?
A mighty mouse went over to go train with him.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
We're talking about like like his belts. He's like, how
many else do you have the house? He's like, I
think too. He's like too, what you mean too? You
have so many defenses? Should have so many.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
They didn't give me those, No, they give you your belts.
He was like, brother, what are you talking about? Yea, Honestly,
I'm gonna I'm gonna start throwing brother and Shama just randomly.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, where are you from? That? Where are you from?
Is another one? All right.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
One more thing I wanted to bring up before we
go into the next topic is going to be when
it comes to the Fight of the year, at least
the male fight of the year. Another guy that I
got to give props to that was like, here's my thing.
What he did and as mad as it makes me,
is amazing what he was able to accomplish and the
stamp he was able to make in one year phenomenal.

(26:51):
The rise to stardom is going to be insane for
this man. But I will say Alex just did enough
to solidify Fight of the Year. But all I gotta
give props as much as it pains me to one,
Oh my god, he does Volkanovski and Max Holloway both

(27:13):
headshot one year.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
In one year. Very impressive. You can't lie. The man
is a star. Like the guy just you know what
I mean, like Spanish bull or something. His is the Matador,
the mat of door. Definitely, like.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I listen, there's the it's the bias you have when
you're a fan of a fighter, And it's really tricky
in this sport because, like you know, you have so
many guys that you're like, you either grow up watching
or you become a real big fan of because there
you watch them on their cool rides or you see
them at the top of their game. So when in
comes this newcomer, you you like, nah, this is my guy.
I don't want this guy to be the guy. But

(27:53):
this guy is also really cool. But you're like, initially
you're just like, I got beef.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
That was me.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
I'm not gonna I was hating because I was like,
he's not gonna be no Volanowski Kaoto. He's not gonna
be no Max Holloway. Max Holloway has never even been
knocked down.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Put him to sleep. I'm just like, bro, this guy
is super villain. This man is Stanos. Where do you
come from?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
But the same thing ass I became a fan. I
was like, you know what, he's spitting, gonna lie, He's
doing his thing, and for me, I feel like Ilia
made his mark. He's it's it's one A one B
for me. When it comes to mail Fighter of the
Year with these two because like Alex has been able
to be on this like steady rise of like racking
up these title defenses, taking on shortcomers, being the guy

(28:36):
that the UFC is able to call on a dime
to pull up a lot of guys aren't willing to
do that. He was just especially as the as the
as the champion as well.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
That's the part that is like evening so much on
the line. He's like, oh, yeah, come on, get a
knock up. Yeah, he's not gonna what's it doing? Hell?
Hell that's what Yeah, come on, thinking out And then
Jamal Hills like he has yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what. No, no, no,
we'll wait till we get to talk to God. He

(29:06):
wants that rematch, bro, he'll pay for this. Yeah. Why
you talking, bro? Why are you talking? No?

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I think you should have I think you should have
done it. I feel like if you're gonna pull up
on somebody like that, you got.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
You gotta pick up a fighter in a gym, especially
exactly there's a ring to fight right there and gloves,
so you can't, like face to face try to check
a fighter and expect not to actually fight.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
And then once he's like, all right, give me the gloves.
He's like, no, I don't need no gloves, and like, bro,
come on, bro. You try to He's like, I'm not
getting paid for this. I'm not getting pay for this,
and why are you talking? Bro? Just trying to get
them views? Bro.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
You know that recording you list fan of Jamal Hill
on his rise up to the like title shots, but
now I'm.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Like time I got him. But on man, you know,
heels nice. He does have some good fights.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
He does, but I don't like this the personality where
that guy you need you need to like, yeah, just
accept your l's and move forward.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
He was respectful to like Alex Pere.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Leading up to three hundred and then yes time on
stage like beefing.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
You see videos of him like you saw my sweater, bro,
and then afterwards he's like, Yo, this guy he comes
in with the with the chamahead and everything, the Easter Island,
the Stone.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
That type of time, and don't be going over here
trying to Yeah, what what's this dude name. It was
Buckley's last fight, which was he was talking Sh'll always
be talking ship coming to got knocked out, bro, just
you know, pretty much got pieced up in the whole fight, Bro.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Same idea with that, Bro, all the all the nonsense
you be talking and you come in with that performance
like get out of here, bro, like the stuff that
like you lose fans so fast. And then I guess
you have that thing with like Kobe where his whole
thing is like the Kurt Angle kind of thing where
it's like, I'm gonna be the bad guy in the facts.
He came out, he came out to that song once. Yeah, yeah,

(30:49):
the same he did the whole COVID thing. He did
it with Kurt Angle.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, but it's the whole thing that, like, I got it.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
You become this like persona, this bad guy, and people
want to pay to watch you, but like, you can't
do it if you can't back it up the bad
guys in w W won something exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
He's mad at being a bad guy. Bro. It's like,
come on, bro, That's why I think, that's why I
think became.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Is like quickly becoming and I would say also became
the star that he is now because he's like without trying,
he's a villain and he's able to back it up
to because now he's taking out two of your idols
and God knows.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Who But it's not like he like like forced it
upon himself to become the villainy. They were like gave
him that villain. I don't know about that man. And
the way he was, the way he was.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Talking was like a self fulfilling prophecy, to be fair,
But did he fulfill the prophecy?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Fulfill the prophecy.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
But the fact that I'm already I'm already the champion
and I'm winning by ko in this round and he.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Literally did that was like so was he lyon though
he wasn't. He wasn't. And that's the part. I'm like,
he's a villain and I'm now a big fan. Yeah
yeah he right, bro.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I added the walkout song to the to the Workout
playlist and the thing like, I'm a fan.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
He's got me.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
He's getting added to the cards. Yeah, and I got
you all. Yeah he's here.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
He no, we'll get him. We'll get him.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
We get If he's ain't there, he can get there now.
Because it's a new year, you know, I felt like
it's been a while. Wow, you know, just let you pick,
just let you pick ahead.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
You go, you go far right, because I'm righty, I.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Appreciate let's say what sporty gets picked. I don't know
it's twenty twenty two, but you know.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Two. Yeah, listen up, let's see what's up.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
See a good one, remember remember the game, say the
name of take a shot.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
All right, I gotta sign here, okay.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh man, I got I got oh, Bro, I got
vult here okay yah blahovich.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh I got some good ones. Yeah, I gotta.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Honestly, these first couple are pretty good. Frankie Edgar, Cody Garbrand.
I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna at that one. Alexander,
She's like, I don't know about this shot right now.
It's not even the shot, Bro. It's like, I got
a couple of and I guess this is a little
bit of hate. I got a Carla as far as
in there, and I just the last couple of performances,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
I can't really say that. Oh another Robert Whittaker. Oh,
I got a Francis I gotta, I got a friend
take this. I got a crunch time Valentina Shipchenko. Hey,
that's nice. Oh. I like that.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
They got like they got twenty two wins, three losses.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Nice. Nice, Well, I got double Frankie Edgars.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
But I got like a like a like a custom one.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I guess no, Supporia, I ain't in no, so let me.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
See one the double planes with the old fire fighters
with the planes. All right, we got Yeerie, we got
s gunn All, jimmy Sterling, Kamara Usman, Dustin Poorier, Patrick.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Take a shot, everybody, everybody you already lost. I got
the best card.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Okay, you addition, Ben Rothwell, if you're a fan, you're
a fan, and you know what I'm talking about. Ben Back,
one more bad lion, one more back?

Speaker 2 (34:18):
What you got? What you got?

Speaker 3 (34:19):
I would think the left one of this time is
because I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
I'm gonna go the middle for one of those. Yeah,
there's a couple of names. I probably gotta like a
chef for man.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I have Peter, but now Petra Petra Piyoder was also
another way. Okay, damn okay, I got a champ, Juliana
Pena Okay, okay, crazy that these are these are the
twenty two, twenty twenty two packs.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
But she's now a champ again. So shout out to
Julian opinion. Shout out for that. That's that's tough.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Shout o' mally, Malley, Cardy just drink.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Okay, who had I got? I got Zohni and I'm
gonna take a who is this? What is the longest name? Yeah?
Is a bit Yeah, exactly right.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Now the champion has a name Charles Hell.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, got chance song John what what time?

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I'm drinking already, I'm just drinking the beat mcgometer puff Oh,
I got a Max holliway want to go Cosmon all right,
Anderson Silver, I already messed this up, Mago Masha reports.

(35:41):
Use it in a sentence place. I know that's correct, yo,
ones of Bruce Buffer has done you next you next thing.
I've been there, bro, I bet oh brock lesnar with
the retro series. That's a my card. That's what holograd YouTube.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
That's fire dog Yo. That's that's why I go. You
know what you know?

Speaker 1 (36:03):
What I like about this pack is that you can
like it just kind of shows you some of like the.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Evolutions of the guys.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Damn Alexander Pantosia pre titled now a champion, Islam Maka
Chef pre title also now a champion.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's just sick man, bro, look at these I got
these two Francis cards. Oh those are fly to what
post you got Marvel's Damn there you go. I guess
see Francis being in Marvel. Yeah, okay, hold on, here
we go. All right. I have Joanna Jeter as I'll

(36:37):
drink Juanna Resky. No, I had like thirty more letters.
I feel like i'd heard.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Announce your name, but I've heard it as Joanna Young
day check. Wait, I'm gonna be honest with you. There's
like forty letters extra in this name. That don't even
make that.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Bro, This is justin Gaetgee card looks pretty dope too,
looks pretty cool. Oh that's like the that's like the
Robert Whittaker card.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Fly Daniel Cormier double Belting.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Oh okay, First of all, this is one of the
Flies cards and one of the best fights you'll ever see.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Janguay Lee versus Joanna Young j Chack.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
This is I don't know if you guys remember this one,
but this this one went viral on social media because
Joanna had a baseball.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Forehead. Someone needed to pop that. That one was crazy.
Don't stop post stop Yeah that's crazy, he boss Champagne,

(37:46):
what do you mean pop that?

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Here we go?

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Here we go. All right this first, damn it. Here
we go. All right, I got shaml here we go.
Get one more try Adam, Yeah, bro, alright, what you
got come off? That one sounded good? That sound I'm

(38:11):
gonna let you pass. That one sounded real good. Get
good at this. I know I can't do this. What
is it from? What was this? Big Daddy? You give
him all the easy ones? I want to. That's that
was one of my favorite movies of all time. There

(38:34):
this was a fire, bro.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
We're gonna have to get way more, way more. I
got a whole set over here, a whole funch time.
We're getting the binders, Bro. We're getting the binders set up,
just the UFC only bind it. We should get these
like like framed laminated, like the fire.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
So many from like this past year. We're gonna have more.
I'm a giant like decade, bro. All right, but I
love it though, Lee J check card.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
We're gonna move on to the female Fighter of the
Year of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Let's get it. So this one was a difficult one. Now.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I don't know about you guys, but I ran into
this problem where there's two types of big moments that
it seemed like there were for female fighters.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Now.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
There were ones where you genuinely had a lot of
wins where you're like, Wow, you were doing really good
this year, and then you have the ones where it's like, wow,
you had an amazing big moment or two or three
big moments this year, And it was difficult to pick
between the two, but I decided to go with the
bigger moments, and that's why Kayla Harrison is my Female

(39:37):
Fighter of the Year. I really really struggled with this one,
but like for me, it's the impact that she made
coming straight into the UFC within six months, being able
to make the one thirty five weight that everybody was
a little nervous about, and able to win in the
way that she was able to. The second fight, we
were able to see a little bit more of her

(39:57):
and see like maybe some holes she had in her game,
but she was still able to prevail and I'm excited
to see her fight for a title.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
An interesting story that I like for female fighter. I'm
not gonna say she's like the top or anything like that,
but is the Sleep Doctor just her story just because
she don't be telling her parents and she'd be fighting. Yeah, yeah,
and how she's knock gonna point it out now, She's
not like check on them. She's not my female Fighter
of the Year.

Speaker 6 (40:23):
Not.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
She might be one of the windows. I'm just saying,
it's an interesting story. She might listen. It's interesting female.
She might be. She might be one of the winners
of another category I have because she Ming. She Ming
has quickly become one of my favorite fighters of all
the time. Yeah, I feel so bad, bro. She then
against She's like ruthless. She was, she said on the mic.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
She was just like, I feel like I feel like
people think I'm too nice, and I feel like I
need to show that.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
It's like, man, you just said, somebody to the hospital.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, I've seen I've seen people get sent to the
shadow rum and they're just like put that put them
on a stool, bro about holding back, Like yeah, holding back.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
The girls literally that she got the neck brace on bro.
Just like they're like, bro, what do you mean you
just say her to the hospital. She's not well, Like
what you talking about? This is how you get more patience?
Like all right, you know, she's kind of low. She
Ming is a solid Fighter of the Year. She Ming
is a good one. That's a yah. She Ming definitely
mean people's camp.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
She's the people's camp because she saw her. You were like,
this is a random fight night. She's the most adorable
woman I've ever seen, and she just murdered somebody with that.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I didn't want to say anything just in case her parents,
you know, listen to our pod. Yeah, definitely do. I
didn't want her to like put one of us to sleep.
Shout out mama up. Yeah yeah ming.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, speaking of Mings, I got jang way Lee doesn't
see that.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
How's that a ming? Though? Come on, bro, that female
fighter cut as a fighters man.

Speaker 6 (41:47):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
It wasn't that crazy. It was very crazy. Female Fighter
of the Year Yeah yeah, two title defenses. Yeah. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
I'm a big fan of her for sure.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
I'm not gonna like she's one of my favorite female
fighters period, But I just feel like it's one of
those things of like the the activity in the moments
that she had were like she fought at UFC three
hundred and absolutely damn, I'm blanking on the girl that
she fought. But she I remember she dominated her. Remember
she like choked her out and they woke her back up.
But it's like you should have ended the fight. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, that was like a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
And it's just like she is so dominant. She has
fought some of the best fighters. She definitely took a
step down when she got knocked out, but then she
came back and regained her title.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
So like ablutely one of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
But like it's one of those things at the activity,
I just like I felt like and at least with
this one, Kayla Harrison just made a bigger splash in
terms of like a mark made in one year.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Oh true.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah, I feel like jank Wi Lee falls under the
thing of like you want to see her move around, fight,
maybe in different weight classes, fight different opponents, because like
she's super dominant.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Bro like she is. There's that viral clip of her
picking up Francis and Ganal. You know she's a mod Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, Like I don't know what they're doing over there,
but they're doing it right. That's like when you go
to Dagas and you're like this combat sombo whatever she's training.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Whatever legal steroids they're using, she's killing it, man, She's
killing the games. You know, you can't even hate on
her game.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Past the test pass the tests. All I'm saying, that's
a solid that's a solid pick for the Fighter of
the Year. Man, I feel like there's a feel like that's.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Like a m VP for sure, female MVP. I guess
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Like there's there's been a couple of people this year
where like they've had their moments, but like you want
to give it to like, for exemple, her, the Alexa Grossos,
you want to give it to the Valatino ship Chenkos.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
And things like that.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
I would have gave it to last.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Last year, right last year, she definitely would have won it.
But like that's what I'm saying, Like it's the thing
of like the activity. I understand that, like there are
there's a discrepancy between the male and female fighters, or
maybe they're not as like you're not selling out pay
per views, you throw them on a comine or something
like that, and it's it's unfortunately that's like the situation
for some of them because if you're like a diehard
fan some of these some of these girls are doing

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some crazy work. I know they're doing some crazy It
is as it is, it is every every division or
every like talking about it monds than there's like a
handful in the in the three way classes they have
for women, there's like a handful that are fired and
then the rest of them is just like yeah, but that's.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
What I'm saying. When it came to me picking this.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
It was like a few that were like very active,
you know, right there's a few that were like very
active that were like you want to give it to
them because they have like four or five wins, but
they're like unfortunately, like of whatever, you know what I mean,
if I said their name right now, you'd be like, who,
like Karine Silva, amazing fighter who at least as of

(44:34):
right now.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Yeah, I was making an event in the UFC and
I wanted to add a couple of female fights in there.
That was like, wait, there's not too many.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Even like even like right now, people are like trying
to figure out, like what are fights that people want
to see, and as of right now, it's it's Kayla
Harrison versus A main in Nona is they want somebody
to come out of retirement to be able to make
things exciting. And that's when you're like, is this what
we want to see? Is this is this what we gotten?

Speaker 3 (44:59):
We're we need to come like Len James right now.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
No, No, I would think the thing is she is
She's just like another exciting, dominant force that they were
able to sign. But the thing is that, like the
level of competition they have to give her, it's gonna
burn out kind of quickly and then it's going to
run into another potentially another Amanda Newna situation where you're
just like another lamb to the slaughter where.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
You just calling her out. Who was who was next
again before calling her out? Julian Opena Penya. That's why
it was.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Julian Openia is the current champ, so that's what she's
fighting next. But a lot of people just think that
Kayla's gonna walk in there and rip that bell from
her hands.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
So we'll see. Listen, We'll see Kayla. Kyla has definitely
like some like areas of improvement. For sure.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I'm not saying that she's like I would say, like
Amanda beats her in my opinion, but like, she definitely
is a force. Bro Like like when we were watching
UFC three hundred and it came to her fighting Holly Holmes,
everything everybody was saying, do not let her grab you
if you let her grab you over, what does she do?

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Let her grab her?

Speaker 1 (45:58):
She went for a ride like it was so bad.
So that's what I'm talking about. Like you just see
that she bro, She's like you look at her, You're like, bro,
you're jacked. Yeah, Like you're like, what are you on?
You do not look natural at all at all. But
she's a beast.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Yeah. Also for twenty twenty four, I was gonna say,
best arenas? Do you feel like the Sphere was the Sphere?
The Sphere took it.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
I feel like there's a difference between like best arena
and like one where you're like best crowd, but best
arena for sure, the Sphere Sphere was.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
You can't that that was beautiful? What was it not
to UFC that.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Those visuals were amazing?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
She fights.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
We were watching the zel Huber Rivivich fight before we
started it. Even then, like right when it began, like
you saw like the opening of them like giants.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
You saw the ring girls intro and the whole like
it was girls.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Like wild bro fire, the costumes, somebody somebody put up
them ring girls again.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
It's just I don't want a reference.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
I would say I would say no to UFC was
my favorite for sure. There's definitely like some places that
they go to. I feel like whenever they go to Europe,
the crowds are definitely like so lit. Everybody's like screaming
and yelling. You get that energy. But like that for
sure for me is going to be it. Yeah, all right,
best face off what y'all.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Think real quick?

Speaker 4 (47:11):
I just want to add for venue, when the fuck
are we fighting in the coliseum?

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (47:16):
They like it, they like it, They've looked into it.
The only thing with the like stuff like that is
that like the place has got to allow you to
be there, and that's what that's where they run into.
It's also the thing of like what places make a
good deal for the UFC to go there, because apparently
some of these places be paying them to go places.
That's also part of it because one of the things
that like that, like I've looked into is like they've

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been to some places before outside of the US that
they haven't been to in a very long time, and
I'd like to see.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Them revisit those. So we'll see what. We'll see what
they do.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
But the coliseum would be fire would be But you
don't think that they should save that for like UFC
four hundred.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Nah, yeah, probably like make it four either four hundred.
I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't waste the mid card. Yeah. Way,
you need someone who's like's one of two things. It's
one of two things.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
You either have to make it for like I guess
one of three and it's just a random, insane stacked card.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
You have to That's what I do.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
You have see four hundred, or if you want to
do something that can be sooner, you do it for
an International Fight Week that's in June. Those are like
the big events that they'll have.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Other than that, I can't fIF they give me three twenty.
I want to see just a really stacked card.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
I will give you those here and there. They give
you ones a year, like three eleven is crazy. By
the way, watch out for that episode coming out, you know, man,
that was gonna be amazing. Eleven is stacked right now
through twelve is looking real good too.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Like there's a couple of good cards already calling out.
That's the thing, bro, I hate these callouts. Yeah, we'll
see what happens. I feel like they get penalized for
a call out. Yeah, I feel like for the most part,
you should have some sort of thing. I mean, the
only think fighters get bonuses. Here's my other fighters should
get penalized.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
There are there are ones where like like people have
like shup, woken up with the flu, like the day
off because you're understand they're cutting weight and they putting
their bodies to a lot.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
So like are you going to penalize somebody for that?
Like it's if you're like stay home and stay healthy,
if you're if you're trying to maintain your health. I
get it. I don't know, like, for for example, the
stick on a fight.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Imagine like a school back in the day, Like, yo,
this Friday, it's like, oh I'm sick on front.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
It is gone. Bro, this definitely you take it. You
take a hit for sure. But yeah, hell yes, three o'clock.
I missed the bubble. I missed the exactly. That's what
I'm saying. You already know, you already know. Okay, I
have this fight coming in within the next month, within

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the next couple of weeks, Like I'm gonna make sure
I do everything I can to stay healthy within that
time for sure.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
But like I said, it happens that week of like
way cutting.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
You go through a lot. I get it, but it's
like it's part of it. You should have been you
should have been way cut of a while ago so
to not put so much strain on your Then I
feel you, I feel you, I get that. I just
I just feel like I don't know circumstances for sure.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Circumstances for sure, you got to be applying to the circumstances.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
You said it right, But.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
It's just tricky, man, because I feel like you're gonna
run into You're gonna run into somebody. You know, so
many issues where it's just like it's a fine line
between like are you're kind to be an affair and.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
If you get injured during training understandable. I think they
all do. A lot of people do well.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Some people just push through it because that's why, like
like they won't say anything until after.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
After, Oh you're lucky, I had a broken arm.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Well also something like sometimes it's also the winner like
shot cut. Like I said, he went into the fight
injured and he was able to win. I'm not gonna
I was a little banged up going into it.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, we don't even know that, You're right, best face
off though, I still got to.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Go with the best face off, just bringing on with Pierra,
I said, Pierra Perrera is.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Panera. Tell me, tell me there's not like three other people. Yeah,
you gotta do the what's it called the bogo? What
is it? You gotta do the half half soup sandwich?
Like why why you gotta get a half bro? Give
me the full fucking sandwich. Yeah, they should have in full.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
You get full of one of these, get the soup
and the sandwich.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah. But Alex five, yeah, yeah, definitely. It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Oh my dad, lord, alright, let's go with Alex. Alex
had a good face off.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
But who that's who had a lot of fights. He
did have a lot of fights.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Got too, and they both have Alex all right, go ahead,
what's your hil roundtree?

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (51:53):
And Yuri pro Hosco Okay, okay. The vibes were crazy
for both. They both brought it in there.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Alex always has the warrior pain and everything but red paint. No,
Alex always has the red paint. He always does. He's
always he's already has a whole arrow and that's a stable.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
That's the one I saw, like, that's one remember of
him having like the red paint.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
So that's what he does. He does with all of them.
So for me, Yeerie was one of them because.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
That was that's always one where they have the build
up of like Yeerie's this weird samurai that trains in
the woods by himself, so he's with.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
This weird energy, right Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
And then Khalil is because he also came in with
the same kind of vibe. He came in with like
the multi headband and everything like that, and he he
came in with this also like energy of like bro,
this is like an intensity where he just you can
tell in his eyes he's just like I just want
I just want blood, like I just want to get
after it.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Like.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
So that's what I was like those two for sure.
All the other ones, I mean, you get ones that
are like crazy, but I feel like another one would
be like Halloween France versus Steve. That was a good
one because Kai is always he does the.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
What's it called I don't want to butcher it. I
think he does like like a what's it called the Hawka.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
It's like a New Zealand thing where he does his
whole thing where he's like he was like pulling around.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
He had his tongue out and he was.

Speaker 7 (53:17):
Doing this like crazy movement where you're just like, bro,
this when they start doing rituals, when you know, that's
when you're like, I kind of like this one face
because I don't really like the ones who they like
they're like it's about a kiss.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
I don't really. I don't like those ones. But when
you when they go in and the face off is
too close, Yeah, that's it's a weird. Like I say,
never back up, bro.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Like even we were fighting, younger people get each other's
faces and they just.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Went and over there just like you, bro, Like I
skipped a bunch of this, bro, like, come on, hit
him already. Yeah exactly, you're gonna self defense on me. Nothing.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
You're both gonna get in trouble at that point, so
you as well go ahead and get after it.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
So I got. That's what I got. I got. Those
two you guys got well. I did have prera too
with you just had in general, I did, but my
other face off, I would say a good interesting I like,
I like Halloway and Supporia. I think that was a
good one. I did like old man Vogue. I just
didn't like Vogan knocked out. I feel like that was

(54:19):
pretty like comical, you know, I didn't think it was
like anything, like you know, crazy, like they were like
angry at each other. This one was another one, Wayne Kong. Yeah, yeah,
did y'all see this one?

Speaker 1 (54:35):
The girl showed up as a joker, this is her
first debut fight in the UFC, pulls up in the
whole joker face paint, goes up to the girl, bang bang,
and when they fought, she chaoed her like crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
So it was like she did that, plus her going
in there and actually murdering the girl. You were like, yeah, yeah,
my fault. I didn't know who you were. I wasn't
familiar with your game. The other girl should have dressed
up as Batman is and dust.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
That's a good one where like we're like he thought,
was that's the always that you said?

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Motherfu Yeah, he called the motherfucker. He was just like
talking about talking about the literal you know, it's the
literal part.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Of it there, like what you're saying about my mom,
Like it's like my mom in the about they.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Got fucking assassins about remember remember Conor McGregor, Like that
one that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
They have they have a UFC archive just going over
that fight of him versus kuld Be because of all
the nonsense that went into it, even little things like
like what Dylan Dylan, Dannis and Islam Makache fighting because
Islam was in Kobeb's corner, and that was one of
the guys who hopped over the cage and threw the
first punch.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
You're like, what are you talking about? Was the one
that jumped over the cage, bro.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
I think that's wild to even still be like and
the most sports you suspended.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
A while, you know what I'm saying, But there was
something like another another fighter jumping. He jumped over the
case fighting with you know, McGregor, crazy bro. He threw
the mouthpiece and he's like, let's talk now, let's talk now,
Like that was definitely one of the best fights of
all time of you yeah, because this like like this
is real murderous ship. Yeah it is, it is. We

(56:19):
want real blood here, yeah, bro, like opetition now it's
like really like life or death. Bro.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
I think that they got to the point of the
like they really couldn't take the level of disrespect that
he was coming at him with, so it genuinely pissed
him off.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
To the point he was like, I will take your life.
This isn't this isn't no sport. I will take you
who was it could be? Was like telling somebody if
it was a street fight, then there's like I would
murder you, I would massacre you. And it was Connor Connor.
It was a street fight because Connor says.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Because he knows how to get under the like skin,
so he says things to like get at you personally,
and he doesn't. It's kind of the same thing of
like the Kobe Covington where you're like, Bro, you do understand,
like like you talk about it all the time. To
be a UC fighter, you gotta have a couple of
screws loose. These guys will literally kill you, Bro, press buttons.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
I feel like it's better to not not that you can't,
but if you really want to win, it's better not
to press certain buttons.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Not only that, it's just like once you cross that line, bro,
and you're holding back.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
But that's my thing is that, like I know that
there are two trained fighters, but you get sucker punch.
You' getting sucker punch and you get your head stumped
out on the concrete. You get your head stumped on
the Concreteactly. No matter no matter how well trained you are,
someone sleeps you. You get slept for me, Like, so
you gotta be careful. The best fighter in the world,
But bro, sucker punch, you ain't saying that.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
With the Brothers.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
You get a little nervous because you're like, these guys
just straight uple scrap with anybody.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
You're like, Bro, I don't know if I can really
walk around the street, and they just walking like this.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Even even I think it was Nate, he was just like,
my man, I ain't gotta fight you, but my mans
will fight you.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
And his bow was like, yeah, hold on, you're talking
about my man's man always get y'all, see, ain't.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Let's talk about when he chilled with the with these motherfuckers. Yeah, yeah,
it's so His impression of Nate is so good, Bro.
Within ten minutes he had budded some dude. God damn well.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
You see clips to him, like where he's walking by
he's in the UFC Crowder, he's walking by somebody he
just like flexes out of and the guy just throws
his drink everywhere at all times, man, all times. It's
so good, Bro, He's somebody that I like, I feel
like I'd get nervous hanging out with you know how
people are like I want to smoke with Stoop. People
think you want to smoke with Nap, Like he'd get

(58:32):
me into something. I don't know, man, what just happened?
Like I'll say, what's up something? Ain't you gotta if
you sign up for the chill, you also gotta sign
up to fight somebody?

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yeah? I wait all that one or the other. It's
like it's like like, for example, it's like like I'll
say what's up to like you know, uh, what's about
Steve O from Jackass? But I ain't trying to fucking
hang out with I would hang out with him either,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Now I'm sober and ship, but he's still doing weird
stuff exactly, you know, falling into the comedy stuff. If
he comes to Boston, will go to one of his shows.
It is something that you're not expecting. And it's like
videos that you're just like, what is going?

Speaker 2 (59:11):
What am I? What am I here for? What do
you Steve before? But I ain't hang out with him after,
like I've seen him live. I don't know about it.
I don't know about no meeting read or nothing like exactly.
I was like, oh, Steve, though, that's cool. After that,
I'm like, all right, I'm cool. I'm good.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
It was a good I take the photo walk away
getting into two of the the more important, I feel
like topics that we want to get into right now.
These awards are fan favorites. Everybody loves a KO and
everybody loves the submission. There's some about a fight not
going the distance and the fight are just yeah, what

(59:48):
are we talking about. Well, we're gonna go into both,
So let's go into best KO. You brought up she
Ming earlier, one of the ones on my list, I
again could not pick one. There is one that clearly
is the winner, but in terms of all the rest,
Max Holloway knocking out justin Gaegee's the one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Yeah, I picked the different one just because.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
You because you know that we're gonna say it, that's
the knockout of the year. So we're gonna pick the
second best dock of the year because that's the knockout
of the year. I don't care what anybody says. Last
ten seconds, point to the ground. You're up on the score, Cads.
You let the other guy take a shot at you
and you put him down cold at the buzzer beater.

(01:00:26):
You don't beat that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
I don't care what you do. Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
There are some ones on this list where you're like, yeah,
that's a good one, but you don't beat that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Yeah, Like the double fucking backhand knockout. Backhand knockout was
another one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
But share a bullet versus armand Serouki or Petrosian that
was one. The double backfit yo, wild, why crazy? It's
some UFC five video game stuff. Yeah, still doesn't read
Max Holloway ten seconds doesn't beat it, but it's top five,
top five.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
I picked Alex Perra mis Jamal Hill. I really like
the like waving the ref off, Yeah, knocking him out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
That's a good one to do. That little polls. Yeah,
that's a good one. That was a little Yeah, look
look who's out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
What I tell y'all, Like I said, Max is justin
is the one period I got. I got share bullet
with a double double back this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
That was insane. Again some U and the bomb man.
That's all like some UC five stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
She ming with the head ko saying that she needs
to be a little bit more aggressive in the cage,
because what do you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Mean more aggressive? What are you talking about? Ripped her
head off your parents? I know you're a fighter. You
just murdered a woman. I could have I could have
done more.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
One that I think I would say is, in my opinion,
second best knockout because I feel like this move is
like top tier ko move from me. Anisia Solovera with
a flying double knee. A flying double knee got the
dude up against the case. The guy's backing up up

(01:02:04):
against the cage, he's already defeated Venetians sucides to go
at him just and just gets them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
With the knee slumped, body, limb dropped. That's also, what
do you say, that's a double knee right there?

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Put that on the shirt. But yeah, that's gotta be.
That's gotta be number one, number two for me. But
then some honor mentions we said his name earlier. There
was Ilia knocking out max Ilia knock it out also.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Happened this year, guys Alien knocking out exactly both of them,
both of the hook when well, I don't want to
go into submissions just yet, but there was a shout
out I wanted to give to you for this dude
named Santos who gave him a knockout. Bro, he just
knocked the dude out while he was out falling hit

(01:02:50):
him again, and we know Johnny Walker got knocked out.
That was a crazy knockout. And then like once he
like came back up, he's like, oh no, I'm still
in this fight. Bom, brooke your nose right then. And
there there's a lot of ones where you're just like, bro,
you you did not need to hit him. Yeah, he
really didn't. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
There were a couple Listen, there's a lot of like
fight nights, slept on knockouts that definitely should have been
on this list, But I feel like it's a lot
of archives for so many those are just.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
The ones that like, oh yeah, I'm getting tied to
Juan just shipping on my favorite UFC fighter. So we're
just not gonna add John Jones karate kicking someone's ribs
out of this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Thank you right here the whole tree with that body, kid,
it was a broke defensive. We're not gonna sit here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
And that's not a big honorable mention because we were
watching that earlier and the sound of it made us
all stop our conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Definitely definitely ribs break bro. He hit Steep a real
hard bro. So yeah, shout out John Jones Ko with this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
With steep and with that spinning body kicks, Like what
are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Like, Bro, I feel like flying flying for me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
It goes like you know how you guys ask on
six you'll go like pancakes, waffles or whatever, or friends toes,
flying knee, spinning heel.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Kick, spinning heel kick, or or what should we have
for one?

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Double backfast, double backfast, double backfast is crazy, double backfast,
I don't see it'st Double backfast is wild, double backfast wild.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Flying knee will always be my favorite. I love it.
Knocked this dude out, Jorgy mos all flying knee, like
all the flying knee just five seconds, bro, Like love
a good knee like flying knee. It's great. It's like
a double It's so good. Man. It has there been
like a crazy Superman punch knockout. There's been punches, but

(01:04:41):
I knockout of the Superman punch has declined on a knockout,
but not knockout. Who's a Superman punch user? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
That's Robert Whittaker drinks Puss. Wonder Boy Thompson's even one
of my There's a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Couple of fighters that use it to close knock out.
Davison Figuredo also use the Superman punch to close some distance.
There's a couple of fighters that back in our we
would we would want to like Superman was in the
beginning when I was playing the game, that's what I
maybe that's what I'm trying to do, the Superman punch.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Damn, I want to fight someone just so I can
catch them with a Superman.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
I feel like you get the you get the crazy moves,
and then you want to just do those more often.
But the tricky when you actually try to do them
in real life. Bro, you see you five years, This
is not the same. Best submission, Best submission definitely has
to be how's my verse, Whitaker, Bro, that's my whole.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Jaw breaking his jaw, his teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Would be number one submission, Number one. Number one submission
was it's number two.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
I'm gonna have to go. Yeah, it's tricky.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
I have one A and one B from guess two
A and two B because they're both like, oh Patty pimblet.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Came then King, sleeping King grid at him right? What
was that second round or first round? Back to Bobby,
back to back to back to Bobby and then Kevin
Holland versus only and j Check and he bent his
arm and just kept tap and it literally might as

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well like wrapped around his body. That's that's two ways
to be if he an't tapped. He ain't tapped. But
then because they were like, you're gonna lose the arm,
is they gonna cut it off? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
And then one that I want to give is an
honorable mention just because of the it's shock value.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Ye, drink is too plus he choking out one. That's
one that is annable. That was that the fourth round
and fifth round. I think it was fourth, right, I
think it was it was the fourth That's that's when
you're like I was. I was surprised because we were like, oh,
that might happen. He's a big dude like that rear

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naked pause.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Another one yeah, right, And another one I had was
that islam Yeah, the choke.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
I didn't want to put that one in there because
it made me sad. I was gonna throw that one
up as an honorable mention.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
But Islam.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
I'm choking out Deciporier with the dars, but he got
him with the spin of spinner.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Rooney with the leg got the back. Like It's just like.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Because at that time, I'm still kind.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Of who will be combats on both Who's taking down Dagistan?
I don't know, Bro. It's getting to the point, man,
where we need a hero. Now we got new rules,
there needs to be another style of fighting. I haven't
seen anybody really use so they have to use it.
Haven't use it. It's only been a short period exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
It's it's just so we'll see if twenty twenty five
is a year of the of the twelve to six
elbow and the knee to the head.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
The knee, that's that's the that's how they have to
like use that weapon. Bro. Now that that rule is open,
we'll see if they actually put it to good use. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Because of this point, at this point, you got to
see something change. Many kill I'm a big fan.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
This is not really hate.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
It's just like I don't want to see I like
the competition of the different styles, and I don't like
it when it's just like one that's dominant.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Because also like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
There's Islam, and then there's could Be, and there's a
few others that use it to just kind of like
wrestle you and they just hold you down.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
And I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Like, if you're want to see it, that could be
was literally trying to maul you on the ground to
kill you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
But he will still be putting that work and give
you the hands.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
On the Mohammed is doing the same thing where he's
getting you down and it's ground and pound.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
He's performance because he's picking up on what coach Kabib
is telling him. He's like, yo, listen, you can't. You
gotta get after it some work at the very end.
And I was disappointed edwards, and I'm like I was
not enough, bro. I know he got thrown off guard.
I know it's I know, like, oh shiit ssemble ain't
no joke. He ye, Like he should have you should

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have picked up within the first or second round. I've
been prepared from the beginning, Like yeah, like who you
like something, figure out who?

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
I'm not like, if this is the way you fight,
it's like no matter how much you prepare for it,
like you didn't get enough time to nod.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
As you should understand that it's from birth. They're like,
they're like, it's like the movie three hundred, but they're
like from a child. They're put into the wilderness and
they have to fight their way back. You're like, what
are you talking.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
They just throw them out in the mountains and they
have to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Like nah, but it's true, man, Like I feel like, yeah,
in fact, it's something that in twenty twenty four we've
seen that combatsemble came out to be the best fighting
style so far.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
I have yet to see anybody try to figure it out.
Would you would you use that in the street fight?
I think you should. You think you should, but I
personally wouldn't know. The thing is is it depends on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
It depends on what because my thing is like, right,
if you're fighting, if it's a multiple guys, I feel
like wrestling and grappling is a bad idea because they're
going to kick you in the head soccer kick immediately you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Had an ip man and just knocking up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
But if you're like fighting, like if you're fighting like
an Islam where Islam is hitting you with the hands
and if you go to the ground, he's going to
kill you on the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Like, yeah, I feel like that's where you good to know.
It's definitely good to know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
So it's just not gonna be a full wrap up,
but it's just kind of like wrapping up twenty twenty four.
I feel like we've all kind of said it, but
I feel like this has been an amazing year, and
for me, the moment of the year is crazy the
best UFC IS years. UFC three hundred had to be, man,
the moment of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
That was an amazing feeling, like I've never seen a
card that stacked.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Yeah, I was like so like prepared for it, and
it was like the amp up for it. I was
just ready for it. Bro it was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
It was a phenomenal time. Man, Like we were able
to watch it here at the studio. It was like
all the fights were crazy, the build up to it,
the history you got out of like learning about like
qfc's passed, and just like the build up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Was phenomenal, Like it was just like twelve out of ten.
I was a big fan.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Obviously, not every fight on the card like lived up
to like you want knockouts and like finishes every every
single fight that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
But it was still like a night of really great
fights and really good entertaining fight. Oh, for sure, Cards
twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Four, I think it was a solid card or like overall,
like I feel like you have the beginning of the year,
you had some stacked cards. The middle, when you had
the summer, you had that like fun of the of
the International Fight Week, and then you had the fall.
They gave you UFC not chase, something that was brand new.
They finished the year off with some pretty strong pay
per views, and honestly, like it was good man. It

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was like from top to bottom, like if we're gonna
rank this, if it was a UFC card from early
prelims at the beginning of the year all the way
to the main event at the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Twenty four was fire bro. It was fire Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
I can't complain and I can't wait for twenty twenty five.
So the one of the last questions.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
I'm gonna ask you guys to wrap me in this episode.
What's up? What's the fight you want to see in
twenty twenty five?

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Oh, I think I think I think we might all
have a Jones bing go Jones has to be that
that's the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
It has to the fight. It has to be that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Maybe we'll get Melvin on camera for that one. We'll see,
we'll see. It has to be that he knows what's up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
It has to be that. But Jones is gonna I'm
looking forward.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
We'll see what the offer is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
What the offer is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
That's Jones's issue. He wants to get paid the bag
for that one he wants. He wants that crazy money.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
I don't blame him, but it's like, bro, don't be
don't be like claiming, well, he's still the champ. But
it's like, bro, don't be claiming that that belt when
you already know somebody else whatever the fuck he wants.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
So, but here's my can you can, but don't hold
that belt up and hold the division because at this
point Tom aspinall champion, but the belt itself has a
has a price. Do you think he's gonna fight somebody else?
But Tom is gonna fight somebody else and defend that
that belt before he fights John.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
I think he's going to hold I think so because
I feel like Jones is gonna like, wait, I don't
think Jones is gonna be like yo, I'm a fight.
I hope they fight soon. That fight does happen in
twenty twenty five? For shit?

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
No, no, for sure, but I hope if I I
hope it happens soon. But I can see Jones extending
the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
I can't. I can see Jones being like, no, I'm
on wait till like September, November. You feel me? I
for him, it's a good idea for him, for me
as a fan that wants to see that fight. Nah,
bro fight him now.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
With John Jones, he has everything to lose and the
only thing he gains is money.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Well, he has everything to lose hold onto that rep
because he beats next year, We're just like, all right,
you just beating another person. If he beats.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Once he beats, then he can ask for Perreira. But
that's the thing, is that like, so for him he
said we have to drop down. It was the hot
thing right now. He's like, if I'm going to fight
anybody for my last fight, he's fighting Alex.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
But then it's a bigger money. But then again, it's
not about hot thing right now. It's about he has
that belt. So here's the thing is what we're asking
are we going off of like entertainment? Erment we're going
off of, you know, thankings, because that's if it's your
last one ranking, bro, I think the rankings, but like

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and then again then again for the for the for
the fans, that is the one that exactly because it's
an exciting for the fans that watch off. But you know,
for like to sell more tickets. I think I understand Perreira,
But then again, Para, he would have to move up
or Johnson have to move down. I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Alex like the biggest fan of fighters changing weight classes,
especially ones that they let's say they've been in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
There comfortable with the exactly holding it down. I feel
you if you want to hold down that belt for
that weight class, if you really feel like, okay, I
already got the champ. I'm the champ of this belt,
and I want my last fight to be a really
entertaining fight. Cut your weight and fight up Para.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
I just like I said, though I don't think he
cuts the weight. Alex watched around two twenty something.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
I know Jones, Jones. Jones can do it. Jones can
do it. If he's like, if that's what he wants
his last fight to be, he would cut down to
Pear would be the most dangerous thing. Ever, he's already
than one of the most heavyweight because.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
You think about the speed, like how much faster he
gets again.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Yeah, but that's the thing is that he spent so
long to get to heavyweight. That's what I'm saying, Like,
I feel like for him to just cut the weight,
just imagine he's also like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Just imagine he has six months to cut down. I
don't think John Jones should have to cut it. He's
John Jones. He needs to make weight for him because
if he wants to hold down the belt, it's like,
you know, this is the belt for this weight class.
When John Jones, this is what these fights. Who cares?
I get it, I get it, but this is what
he happens.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Like now, it's true, but like Alex had to go
up two weight classes to get so Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
So they're both like they really want to him? Do
you really want to be for that weight class? So
they're both I would say, and there's set.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
They're both thirty seven years old right now, they're both
in their second half, I would argue of their career,
if not almost the end of their careers. For the
most part, Alex seems to be a little bit more
spry in his step. So again I would say it
makes more sense for Alex to move up again, Alex
to make Alex is like six two sixty three walks
around to twenty to thirty. For him to just build up.

(01:16:37):
Let's say you want to fight in September November. Let
him get a couple months of just like working on
casually gaining the weight and building the strength up, and
let him fight at heavyweight. That makes more sense than
to have John who a few years.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
I don't want to wait till September.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
But that's the thing is that at this point he's
waiting for few money, and if he's not getting a
few money, he's not going to fight. And then at
that point they fought it. He fought in November. So
if waiting all the way to November, that's a year
again that we're gonna say, like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Do you want the bag or do you want the belt?

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
If you want the bag, if you want the bag,
you want the bag, John Jones gotta cut down. If
you want the Jones is not cutting down, then he
don't want the bag as bad as bad.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
But like him wanting the belt, the you know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Why he's gonna make this fight for the because he
already has the belt.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Dana said that him versus Tom is next, But I
don't think that that it's necessarily it's next for that
weight class. It's next for that real quick, real quick.
And then I'll shut up. You're good. Forty nine and
Floyd Mayweather, Yeah, who do he fight for his last fight?
The big money fight.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Fifty and oh, wasn't McGregor Conor McGregor, Yeah, a million
of the contenders for the belt.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
It was because.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
From big money though, exhibitions, exhibitions, not for his like
actual title for the fifty and oh, he found McGregor
for the bag.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
But Jones at that time, at that time, I remember
there was someone else that he was able to fight.
But it was a bigger bag to fight McGregor. That's why.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
But to be fair, like him going for the belt
and fighting Tom Asamonal is going for the bag. No, no,
because it is a bigger might be might be a
bigger It is a bigger again, there's a lot of
leverage on this fight right here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
You gotta you gotta remember you gotta is a bigger bag.
But for the belt, he technically has the belt. Right now,
I would say they both have the belt, but it's
like who wants to Like I think the people claim it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
This gets clear because you gotta remember we're talking money,
we're talking stats here. As the champs and as the
level of the caliber of star they are, they get
paid a big bag to show, a big bag to win,
they get pay per viewpoints, they get cut who comes
to do that door and every day.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Everybody's watching Alex is the bigger fight. Everybody is is
a bigger fight, is the one that'll get Currently, Alex
is a bag. So if he wants the bag sooner,
he has to cut down to get to Alex. If
he doesn't want that, he already has the belt.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Right now, might clarify the belt situation.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Then then you're doing two fights. But then again it's like,
do I want to jeopardize my record technically undefeated, even
though there was like that one fight when it was like,
you know, he lost me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
But even then people are like, oh, you should get
that overturned. Another twelve or six is allowed, Yeah, but
it's allowed now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
It wasn't allowed that but but but then again it's like,
do you want to jeopardize your record when technically you
already have the belt as as heavyweight right now. So
I can either fight Aspinall and like claim it, like yo,
I'm a retire heavyweight champ. No one can touch me
and be as if he does, or if he does,

(01:20:01):
which is tough because As is a monster, or it's
like I'm already comfortable in this way. I want the
bag and I want my last fight to be a bang.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
So if I want to fight Perreira, I need to
cut down to fight Perra because Pera is not going
to move up as quickly as quick as I can
move down.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Wants the money can go up.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
He can what I'm saying, you knowink so because he
he I think so spent like to how many years
he spent trying to become ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
But but then again it's like Para is skipping Aspinall
to for him to fight Jones is gonna have to
fight Aspa to fight.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Well, this is this is when we get the conversation
of like, is it ducking or is it just a
smarter business move? If you're like a harder business move,
for sure, I have one fight left, I don't I
don't really care to keep going smarter business left. I
just want to make the most money possible, so walk
out that leg It's also done. It's a bit of
both already claimed.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
I feel like I feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Dana White does the legacy, has the has like he can.
I think either, I'm gonna be honest with you. Either
guy he fights John Jones loses. He is still greatest
of all time, one of the best Mount Rushmore fighter
and anybody definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Mount Rushmore, but one of the greatest us. I just
feel like it's not because whoever knocks him out is
the is not even then, I feel like the mm
A man.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
When Iverson crossed up Old Jordan, it's like it's the
same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Like people are gonna be like, oh, but that was
that was a seven year old John Jordan is one
of the greatest, and also Iverson is one of the greatest.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Jordan and I not in the same conversation. I don't
know bro A, I bro A is great, but like
Jordan is like the go everything stops. It's not even close. Yeah,
put Kobe.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
They were saying, like on the on the the All
NBA seventy five lists, every thing everything stopped when Jordan came.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
That's when you know like, this is the goat because
yeah came everybody was.

Speaker 6 (01:22:05):
Like, but then then again, but then again, but then
even the goats, I get you, then again everything Bird
gave Jordan the most work, and Jordan was only the
go because he had Pippin.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Let's be real, I need to.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Show Jordan's Jorian was was Jordan's look Look at Jordan's running,
Look at Jordan's run without Without Bro, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Gonna give you back your show. It was about this
a little bit so much.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Jordan's definitely one of the goals. He's definitely you can't
win by everybody. Everybody's kicks. Everyone got win a championship.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Yeah, Lebron, he making his own to him. The DJ
both said the questions would be crazy. I'm telling you, Bro,
I feel like you'd be some of the answers to seventeen.
Let's be real. But I'm saying, like he Jordan wouldn't
be where he's at without Pippen. You need a team
to be champion. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Jordan is
still the goat, but but he's crazy with his numbers

(01:23:09):
were better with twenty twenty four was an amazing year
and Mma this is educated.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Come check us out.

Speaker 7 (01:23:17):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Twenty twenty four was an amazing year and mmma, thank
you guys for tuning in by this episode. This is
before we end a couple of housekeeping notes. We will
be having some more guests this year. Once again, I
will repeat, if you want to be a guest on
this show, but.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
The educated MMA, you can come through. We'll book it,
We'll have you on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
We'll talk that talk. Another thing to note, we will
be trying to publish more episodes. I think at this
point it you two. I don't think I can qualify
you guys as uneducated. You guys are becoming degenerous, just
like myself. We started including a fight.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Night here the way, the way I be saying these names, uneducated, educated, yea,
We're gonna get be able to pronounce.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
The boys are gonna film get back sometime this summer.
We're gonna take a flight out. We're gonna go train
with the Dakastani's up the mountains.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
I gotta hear the names more. Yeah, check our fail
on the next episode.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
No facts, but right right, right, but for sure, guys,
I want to just say thank you to everybody that's
been tuning in this year. This is the first year
of an educated MMA. Will not be the last year
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lot of good laughs, a lot of great moments, and
I can't wait to make more with you guys in
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guys were hopping on this episode with me getting on
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Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Just talking that time.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Host Man, we appreciate it has been a great time
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Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
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We want this to be on a space where everybody
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May is we are all either casuals all the way
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Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
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Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
MMA fighter or a boxer all the way up to
your professional I'd love to be able to get to
speek to you and get to the fan connection and
just kind of build this community.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
It'd be dope.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
So that's men, you know what I'm saying. Life, So
what's the supposed to love fight?

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Yeah? Yeah, we are warriors on this art. I'm not
gonna sit here on that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
Like the sport we're talking about is some plaything like
we're watching Get Put to Sleep Shadows.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Life is right now, life or death right now.

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But anyway, everybody, from an educated MMA to you, Happy
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Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Shout out twenty twenty four. Let's go twenty twenty five.
We out yeah yea Chama Java like