TAKE 16

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
And they're back for Conor McGregor's I Gotta bring that
up man, the exhibit exhibit and now Bone Thugs in
Harmony joining Conor McGregor's new record The fuck He's got
a record labels, which is nuts. He got the whole
Bone Legs of Harmony back together, every member in the
studio for the first time since back in the day, bro.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Connor McGregor did. Yeah, how did he do this? I
don't fucking I don't know. I don't know why he
thinks this is a good investment. But both Thugs in
Harmony are.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Exhibit's done.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Now here's my thing. Would you not go to the
to the reunion or you wouldn't you wouldn't pull.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Up No, No, that's a slight bit. I would never.
I wouldn't listen to another song from them.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
If they never made another album, I wouldn't be upset.
I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I don't know. It's just like, I don't know. Colin
McGregor is out of his fucking mind.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
And if anything he would have started, I wouldn't think
it would be a record label.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, It's like, dude, you just start listening to hip
hop like it's like he just jumped into the genre, like, Yo,
this is fire. I'm signing him. He's he's independent. Now
I'm gonna sign him. I'm gonna sign this group.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
I wonder how deep like his knowledge goes or he's
just like, no, I've always been a fan.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
I wanted you on my record label since I was
a kid, since I.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Was a Yeah, green Back Records is what it's called.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
That's great, man's honestly, that's what it should be.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Exhibit in both Thugs in Harmony, I exhibit I don't
know crazy. If I was him, I've been back pimp
my ride and get the whole shit gone, bro.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
I think a sixty deal pit my Ride brought to you.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
By Connor McGregor would be the funniest thing I'd ever
watched in my life.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Somehow.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
You'd get it on the UFC mats on the bottom
and everything. You would just see like Connor McGregor's face
with like a just a souped up three Honda Civic
with a fish tank in the back and a dry
cleaner in the back seat.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Man, it'd definitely be different.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I don't understand how they ever came up with those Combos.
When it came to that show, they were just like, well,
we know you like.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Grilled cheese, so we built in a toaster into your
CD player. Yo, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I remember when I was in the seventh grade, my
teacher went on a rant because this is when like
was popping, yeah, and she was just like we were
talking about everybody talking about my rod and she was
just like, why did they I hate that they call
it pip my ride. She started going on a little
rant and it was like, like, if only they knew
how how horrible pimping was. I don't think, like, Yo,

(02:53):
what the fuck lady.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
That's that's like the same energy as like anytime anything
spook happens, your parents are like, b You're like, no,
you don't understand. You're like tattoos, You're like, you're a
de minute, Like that's what it means.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
That's probably why I thought my dad was gonna hate
me forever.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
No, man, I can't be buried in the Jewish cemetery tattoos,
so I decided not to go with them.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
That's the perfect time to start the episode.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of uneducated MBA,
I'm your host with the most wander bread and of
course joining me to my left is the B and Meth.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
You can't be in of the world, Harry, and let's
go this just stint.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Unfortunately is actually not unfortunately. He's on vacation.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yea for him.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
I'm honestly good for him. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I didn't needse one.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I did text him and I was like, yo, listen,
we're gonna record this episode because we got a lot.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Of breaking news this week.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
But he was just like, listen, man, I'm about to
catch a flight. And you know what. I was like, listen,
I'm proud of you. I'm happy for you, but.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I'm gonna hate you a little bit because you're getting
out of this cold and I get to get stuck.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
All this ice that's been around the jewelry. Bro.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
I'm it's real bad.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Honestly, I've slipped slipped, but I haven't fallen just yet.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I've embarrassed. I've embarrassed to say that this is the
most I've ever slipped and slipped and falling.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
No like dude on back pause five in the morning,
Pause yet five in the morning, driveway.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
And like almost tore my a cl the other day.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
That's not fun, man, Not listen.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
I've had plenty of winches where I've just completely just
fucked up slipped just.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Trying to go down the stairs.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Have you ever seen the episode of Family Guy where
Peter like they replace the stairs and he just keeps
falling down him. That's what it looks like. Every single
time I get out of the house. I'm just scared
for my life.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Even though like where I live, they completely take care
of the complex.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
They saw everything like crazy. But either way, like I
still see people slipping and sliding all over the place.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Man, I'm not I'm not trusting it.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
I've had people literally text me just like yo, listen,
my whole spinal cord is fractured. I cannot go anywhere
right now. I just brust my whole shit open.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Pause.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah that's great, but it's bad out there, man. But yeah, no,
shout out to justin. Shout out to getting out of
this of this cold and going to the war by. Honestly,
I wish it was you, man. I'm not gonna lie
to you.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Man.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Fuck that groundhog too, you know, Honestly, I gotta pull
up where where what's his name?

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Phil?

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Phil bro in six weeks? He says, six weeks, six weeks.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
What if I throw him a couple of you know,
a couple Benji, see what he changes his mind for.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
You stay in the hole.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
You don't see your shadow. I don't even know what
the rules are. Man, I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I think it really popped out. I think that was
the thing. But it's way it's way too cold now.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Man.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Honestly, I think at some point we're gonna have to
move this podcast to somewhere a little warmer. We'll figure
it out, uneducated him in May. It takes takes Thailand, Dubai.
We'll figure it out. We'll get we'll get a Turkey
alo shake to to promote us, and we'd bay that'd
be flying. That's how we get our start in the
professional m M A circuit will be out here.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Like sitting in like announce the table.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
You guys will know when we sell out, you'll know, yeah, yeah,
there will be signs.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (06:01):
When you see that.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
It's like the b where it's like you'll know what
you won't know when I win the lottery. But there
will be signed you gonna see me and him in
the full get up somewhere in Dubai, just like, Yo,
what's up, guys? Loocome to another episode of Uneducated in
in May.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
That's gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I'm a pretty humble person, but when I'm up, I
show it.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
You see me flexing every now and then you can
tell you know his tax returns just hit.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
You got that tax money flip that never mind, but
we got the breaking news this week to MMA news. Dude,
I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Data White.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
He's a man, love him or hate him. The man's insane.
He's like Vince McMahon. He comes at you crazy, but
like when he delivers, the man delivers. Man, I'm not
gonna he I think it was him. That was just
like announcement coming soon. And then I started seeing all
the m m A pages that I followed, just posting
announcement soon, announcement soon, announcement soon, and I'm like, all right,
bet then it's like seven thirty eight o'clock announcement coming

(06:54):
up soon, don't you worry? And I'm I bet it's
like ten thirty eleven o'clock at died. I'm fading away
on my couch waiting for this man to say anything.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
No post, that's all right, cool.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
I fell asleep for like maybe like thirty minutes, so
like it's like now around like midnight, and I wake
up everywhere on my news feed, everybody in their grandmother's posting,
let's see ille a vacated title belt to move up
to one fifty five. Alexander Volkanowski versus Diego Lopez, Michael
Chandler versus Patty Pimblet, Patricio Pippo versus Yayi Rodriguez, Balal

(07:24):
Muhammad versus Jack Dalla Madalena Valaentino Schipchenko versus Manel Phiro,
And let's see Leon Edwards versus Sean Brady and plenty more.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
What happened. I don't know what happened.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I faded away for an hour, and I woke up
and Dana White's just bugging out on Instagram Live, just
being like, here, you guys go, I'll take them. I'll
take them all.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I know these are some good fights. He gives the
people what they want.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
To see, not for sure, for sure.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
I was listening to a couple of people's takes to
kind of get you know what are other people saying
out there, what's the world saying about these And a
lot of people are saying the same thing that like, yo, man,
like it was just a little too quiet for a
little too long, and I think that there were some
high expectations people had for other fights that Dana White
was like, I gotta deliver with something, and he was
just like, let him sleep on it a little bit

(08:08):
and then bam, he hits you with the Instagram Live
where he By the way, what do you think about
that him going on Instagram Live versus it just being
like a pre cut promo, like you could you could
talk to him like he's responding to like people like
being in the chat like crazy data.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
That is interesting.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
I feel like it's a vibe.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I bet a lot of people tune in.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Let people see some crazy stuff. Oil up data, bro.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I don't know if you go into the comments of
like the official UFC page, but it is crazy, yo.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
I bet bus fans, not myself.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
I'm not gonna say I'm out here posting crazy stuff
maybe on the Burner Twitter account, but people people are wild, man.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
You know, often I leave a cop that doesn't get left.
I'll write a comment look at it like nah, nah,
and I just delete that shit. I don't know. I
don't know everybody. Everybody puts their opinion in. It's not
always needed.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
See, It's crazy for me because I will go like
paragraphs in a in a I don't know, like messages
with people, like I'll go back and forth and talking
about like they'll send me like an article, like for example,
when all this stuff came out, like they were sending
me like stuff like oh did you see that this
fight got announced? And I would just start going back
and forth like crazy. But you'll never catch me in
comments sections just like doing the same thing, even though

(09:15):
like you see, like that's what like majority of people
are getting their opinion out.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
They're like just going in the commentation.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
I like post and like post and dump, and I
don't really go back to them. But like if people
interact with me in the comments of like the videos
and stuff like that we post, then I will go
back and forth in that way. But I will join
somebody else's comments and just get up in there and
be like yo, my opinion.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Now, lately, with like other sports, I haven't trying to
be a little bit more active on social media, just
the more interaction, more more discussion. Yeah, but I don't
want to I don't want to end up arguing with
someone online.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
See it's a cool it's a cool thing because it's like, oh,
I can talk to like mad random peop about stuff
that I'm like interested in. But at the same time,
you come across a lot of fucking dickheads you don't
want to talk to at all, and they are just
chirping away at you, and you're like, bro, I'm gotta
throw my phone across the road and it's somebody, for
all you know, could be a bot somewhere. It's just
a computer just talking smack, going.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Back and forth. Like I don't know, I can't do it.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Yeah, no, I think I think it's uh, it's too
much of a headache for me. But who knows.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I start I started talking, especially when we got announcement
like that like this, I don't even know where we're
we're gonna be getting like yeah, right, I feel like
the biggest news and I feel like this seems to
be everybody's kind of topic. Is Ilia Ilia that whole
one five division with him Volke Diego, what's going on
with that one?

Speaker 4 (10:34):
I think it's crazy, but it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
He did say he was gonna do it, so at
the same time, it's it's not that insane that he
was like giving up the belt to move up rather
than just taking it and being like, let me become
double champ.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
He was just like, no, I did what I needed
to do. Now it's not for the next one.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, that's that's it is. He's a dog man.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
I was listening to the Arijjuane Show before we came
over here, and I was listening to them talk about it,
and like their their opinion was like the UFC apparently
isn't too big on on the whole double champ thing,
like you holding up one division to go get a
belt and another one, which I could see that that
makes sense.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
It ain't like boxing with is freaking a million. That's
part of it where I can't get into boxing.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Man, Why did they got four hundred thousand belts?

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Man, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
It makes no sense to me keep up with. It's
so much to keep up with. Man.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Like every time I see a photo of a fighter
and I'm like, I don't know who this person is.
They're always like this and they're just holding out like belt.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Belt, bell belt belt, bell belt.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Do they defend them all or do they just fight
and defend them all at the same time.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
I think there's ah that you see what I mean, because.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
At least in UFC you can't, like you, I don't
think you can't fight a double champ and get both belts.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
You have to fight them in one of the weight divisions.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Give me all your belts.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
I just beat At that point, there's no point. There's
no point.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
What do you mean? I got mad belts?

Speaker 4 (11:45):
You got mad belts.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
That's when you start doing WWE weight weight classes where
it's like there's like the WWE title.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Did you got like the Intercontinental? You think that's the.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Best format for Uh, it depends you.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
You get a belt depending on where you're at in
the in the card. If you're like, there's a belt
for the prelim, how good are you? Yeah, imagine you're
the early prelim champion.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Wait, w w E the heavyweight champ was there heavy
the world champion, So there was there was, at least
when I was watching, there was two of them.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
There was a w W Champion which was like on
Monday Night Raw, and then there was a World heavyweight
champion that was on smack.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
That was the world heavyweight.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
There was a world heavyweight even though Ray Mysterio was
the world heavyweight cham So I'm like.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
You know, heavyweight, you know, are they all heavyweights?

Speaker 4 (12:31):
What is heavyweight to you? You know what I mean?
You'll two twenty five to five. I don't know if
Ray Mysterio was No.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Twenty five fifty and they see Raymon Steel maybe like
like a one sixty yeah, problem. I mean the man
was a powerhouse doing her karanas and what five f
that's the next one we got to practice. We throw
away the high kick her karanas. They never gonna see
that in a cage and an octagon.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
What is the her karana?

Speaker 3 (12:55):
That's the one where he runs that you he like
grabs the head by your legs and he spins around
you and just throws you into the That's the first
move to get you into the six and one nine.
He does that whole thing back to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right,
shout out, we're gonna start watching again.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
This is just leading us back into watching ww.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
A little by little. I like, I keep forgetting on
the on the Netflix mondays.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
You know, it's funny because it's Monday night. Ron, I'm like,
what day is that on again?

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, yeah, everything on streaming now. I don't even know.
Shoutout could have been Love with Drew. Yeah, that's his
new episode dropping. I'm definitely watching that one.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Part of my favorite show right now.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
I would I would have to say so that that.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
That and Dealer No Deal Island is crazy to me
right now.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I'm not to check that out that one.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
That one's fire. I've only seen the first episode, but
so far.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
I'm in but Illi vacating the title to move up
to one fifty five here's my thing with it. So
he wants to move up to one fifty five and
immediately challenge Islamahnche for the title. Now, Islam has said
I'm not giving him an immediate title shot because I
feel like he hasn't done enough for it to justify
him moving up and doing that. Plus, now this is
going to be the third title defense against somebody that's

(14:02):
a one to forty five or that's moving up to
one fifty five rather than somebody who's in already.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
His weight class.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
So I don't know if that's necessarily going to be
his next fight. Who do you like who do you
see him fighting. We got some options, Isla, no, no,
I'm talking about Ilia Islam. At this point, he's kind
of in the same He's kind of in the same
setup where Islam. Right now, he's either gonna repeat fighting
some of the guys he's already fought, because he's already

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kind of beat the top five in his division you.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Have he can.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
He's probably gonna go up against Charles, I think with
people's assumed next fight, but that one again would be
another rematch. Most of the top five would be a rematch,
and he won't move up to one seventy to fight
Baalal because they're boys, apparently, and I guess that's forbidden.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
I don't know what's going on with that one.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I feel that, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
I don't know if Ilia necessarily Like dude, I'm not
gonna sit here and act like he hasn't done some
crazy stuff so far.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
He's earned a lot of what he's.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Gotten, especially because of who he's beating.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
He knocked out Volkanovsky, knocked out or not knocked out,
but he t KOed Max Holloway. If he fucking knocks
out Islam. That's gonna be another one that's just gonna
be like, dude, who is this guy? I just I
don't even understand.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
That would be crazy. You never know. I think you
never know what super I don't know. I still think
it's so.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Far he's been talking his talk and walking the walk,
so I really can't when he says I'm gonna do
this and then he does that. When he's like, I'm
gonna knock out Volklanofsky, I'm gonna knock out Max Holloway,
he does it.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
He says he's gonna submit Islam.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
That would be the crazy.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Why Why wouldn't I not believe him? He's for to
so far.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
He's Georgian's man, He's Georgian.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah man.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
At this point, just because of the VALASHVILLI you can
never Illi has.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Also been saying that Georgian wrestling beats dagas Danny Russian
wrestling ten out of ten times. He's been saying that,
I like to see how that they've been chirping. Yeah, man,
I think I think it would be an interesting matchup. But
like a good point that that's been brought to my attention,
there's a size difference Islam is a big dude.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
It's the fact that he touched down.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah, right, Like I feel like the only thing with
him being at one to seventy is like maybe he'd
be like a little bit shorter.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Than some of the guys, but he's a big one seventy.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, yeah, he's He's definitely gonna freaking I don't know.
I can't see he's gonna be like a polar Bear
on a freaking.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Mm yep on a Walris, think like.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Put it on a T shirt, polar Bear on a Walrisk.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Just like smothering this fag. I don't know. I feel
like Islam gonna still I.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Think he's still gonna dominate. I'm not gonna lie he
has that fight, but I.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Don't I don't know if that's necessarily gonna be the
first one. I think, like if the UFC is like, Yo,
this is the fight we want to make, I don't
think Islam s necessarily gonna be like, no, I'm not
fighting him, because at this point he's like anybody anywhere, anytime,
and he played like I don't care.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Bring him is fine to.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Pour Oh man.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
It would also be a big money fight. That's a
big one. To me too.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
The I feel like the division is not as crazy
could take over if he if.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
He ended up, if he ever think there's some there's
some opposition in there for sure, but I don't know, man,
there's there's a couple of guys in there that I'd
be interested to see him fight OLIVERA.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
I think would be a good test. I think that'd
be a good matchup. Yeah, that was like, that was
part of what I wanted to go over.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Like if he doesn't fight Islam, Dustin Charles, like, who
does he fight?

Speaker 4 (17:37):
That's Poria would be a good one, think. I don't
think that he would take that one.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, I wouldn't do that if I was him, if
I was either.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Of them, I don't think he'd be willing to fight
a contender. I feel like it's the champer nothing, you know. Yeah,
that's a that's another take that I feel like I
can see him getting the shot at Islam, and I
see them getting paid very well. I see Islam just
being like another one down at this point because he's
not gonna fight but loll and it's it's either that
or a rematch with somebody else.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
So he's like, you know what, I'll just take this.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
What he's as much as like he says that he's
down to fight whoever. He doesn't even care.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I mean to me, like that's that's that's the vibe
I get from Islam, Like he really doesn't care who
it is. He doesn't care, like at this point when
except for maybe like Ramadan time, that he wouldn't want
to fight anybody, but like for the most part, he's
down to take on all comers. Like the fact that
he fought on like a day's notice or whatever, Like
that's pretty that's pretty savage stuff. He's like, I don't

(18:32):
care man whoever, so I can see him taking the fight.
That'd be dope. If they did that in Spain. That's
what Deli has been asking for. They were like, let's
go to Spain. But I feel like in this situation,
it's him going into Islam's house, so they would probably
want to do it somewhere else, but I feel like
that'd be.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
A big one Abu.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Dhabi, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I don't know, because it's like I don't think it's
fair to to have it.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
In Spain, you know, because that's that's that's like some turf. Yeah,
I don't think it affects Islam though, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I don't think.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
I don't think it affects them, but I.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Think it does affect uh. I think it gives them
a little extra Yeah, it's the slight extra energy from
the crowd. Yeah, spear bomb. Everybody gives their energy. And
he's gonna feel the fourth.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Round when he's you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
When he needs it.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
I can see it happening.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
I just feel like it's too big of a fight
for them to have anytime soon. I can see that one.
Like I don't know, International Fight Week in June. They're
looking for something big. John Jones and Tom aspinall has
been announced yet. Maybe they do something big like that.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Man, this summer is gonna be crazy.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Something's gonna be great.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
I mean, for the most part, usually the summers when
they do the really good, like cool fights like that,
that's when we have like a pretty good Saturday nights
are always like a fun time.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Even the fight nights are usually make stuff. But those
are gonna be great.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
But then since he vacated the title, now we have
we get Alex Folkanowski versus Diego Lopez or the belt
that's an interesting way to win the belt.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
We've been saying, Diego Lopez is gonna get that belt.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Diego Alexander. At some point he's getting this belt. I
think he's gonna get He's been climbing the ranks, and
I feel like he's definitely capable. I think he's here now,
you know what I'm saying. I think he's like, especially
because Tapoura is out, he could take over this division.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
He really could. He really could. I see him as
a top contender. I see him as somebody who right
now could be a champion.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
We've seen a couple of.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Things with him where it's like a gas tank, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
I don't know if it's circumstantial. Sometimes he takes like
those last minute, late notice fights, so who knows. But
for the most part, he's been pretty solid. Seems like
he's got good striking, good on the ground for the
most part. Most of the competition. I see him fighting.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Even even with the.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Ilia, I saw him as being like a good.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Matchup for Ilia and somebody who could actually put him
in danger in some certain spots. And now that I
see him taking on Alexander Wokonowski, I can see him
finding away with that one too. Like he's seen how
Iliot did it, he can kind of adapt to that.
He's seen how Max has made at least progress against them,
so he can kind of adapt to that as well.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
And he also brings a lot of tools to the table.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
And then, like you said, the rest of the division,
I see it the same way. There's a lot of
guys in there that I see him beating. There are
some hidden ones like Wolfsvar where I feel like those
guys might give him a little bit of a challenge,
but like for the most part, I can see him
at least getting like two or three title defenses before
somebody comes knocking. That gives him like a real real issue.
But a lot of those guys are dangerous.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Volkanowski, he's I don't want to see him back as champion.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
No, you're done with it.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I think I'm done with it. I don't know he
was the.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Goat man he was.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
He was the I feel like once he did the
old man Volk thing, you and Justin were both like,
I'm good, I'm set off of this one man.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I didn't think it was that bad.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Like I feel like I'm I liked how like every
time I watched Volkanovski fight, it was impressive to me
that heat continuously got better and then he hit this
like brick wall where he fought Islam, And I feel
like it's only really been like a few fights, but
it's like it's like it seems like he's still there,
like in terms of technique, skill, athleticism, but it's like

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something where it's like, I don't know, man, maybe it's
like mentally he's off where it's like you when you're
at that level, like you got to be one hundred percent.
If anything, I've learned from the years of watching the
sport and listening to everybody. I've said it a couple
of times on the show, like U zig when you
should have zagged. A part of that is like being
fully focused on what you're doing. Yeah, yeah, but the

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moment you take your eye off the ball in for
a second, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
There's a lot of these fighters that like you don't
want to count them out yet they were great at
one point, right they were let's say a champion before yep,
and then they'll they'll still look great, like like the
Izzy fight, Yep, just looking great, and they'll still lose
the fight. They'll still get knocked out of something. Something
always wrong happens. But like perfect usman went going fucking

(23:04):
having a great, yeah, having a great fighting and losing
and it's just like certain, it's like this is just
your time. I think sometimes it's just like as good
as you still are, for some reason, this just isn't
your time anymore.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Well, this is this is the moment, man, I'm not
gonna lie to you.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Like in the last few years, we've seen a lot
of the big big names kind of fading out. This
is where you see it. It happens all the time
in any sport. In any sport, a shoutout, eight oh six,
you guys cover them all. You see the tide turning
all the time constantly. This is the time it's turning.
We're getting some new guys in there, and it's it's
it's a it's a weird thing because like you brought up,

(23:40):
is he like with that with with his last performance,
he was sharp, super sharp, he was doing well. He
just got you know what I mean, he got clipped right.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
It is what it is.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
But I still see him competing at.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
They know I said it too.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
He saw it Yeah, like I don't. I don't think
that takes away from his U Yeah, I don't think
it takes away from him at all.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
I don't think that was like a performance whereas like
him versus Shawn Strickland, when you're like wondering what's going
on with him, where he's just getting lit up, Like
You're like, how is he just like deflecting everything?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
How is he just And then it's crazy that like
a Shan Strickland can fight so well against him and
then not keep the same energy when he's fighting.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
It's I think it all comes down to do you
show up to work that day. I'm not gonna sit
here and act like you know what I mean. I
show up to work every day the same.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Everybody has those days where you pull up your day.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I go, I go to play basketball, and I'm going
through the motions, and there's some days where I'm a dog.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yeah, well you're just like this. There's another level that
I think that there's like I think you have that
all the time and anything you do.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
So I don't see it any different for comes to
professional athletes or professional fighters. I feel like like they'll
say it today was just their day. You know what
I mean, And that's just it is what it is.
Sometimes it is just that person's day. And I think
that was what happened with sewn Wood against DDP, where
like I just I don't know what it was. Man,
some some about him just wasn't like clicking, Like he
just wasn't he wasn't turning on the focus that he

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needed to be.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Style.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Maybe that d style he already knows because that's the thing,
is he he he fought, he fought him. It was
a close fight. People including myself, thought that he won
the first one. So it's like, all right, you already
saw it. You know what he's coming at you with.
Now you know the answer is more volume, throw more
than you did last time.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Bingo.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
He's like, bat, I'm gonna throw less than what I
did last time, almost.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Half what I did last time. Like that's not at
all what you want to do. Actually, careful, dude, I
don't understand what happened.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I get your your great defensive fighter, but you you
gotta you gotta still put that volume up. That's focus
the whole time.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
That's my thing is like there's a difference between like
us not mentally fully being maybe we have an okay
podcast episode, you know, I mean, nothing too crazy. But
then there's a difference between you stepping in a case
and you're being a little off that day, you know
what I mean, you end up with some serious issues. Ready,
you better be very focused. They're very aware of what

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you're doing. But I've heard a lot of fighters like
the like now that they're older, retired, like not in
there where they've talked about like being horrifically nervous before fights,
like throwing up and all kinds of stuff. Like even
though like you see them on like the press conference
leading all the way up to it, and they're like, no,
they seem really focused, like they're like very very much
into this, like they're locked in on what's going on.
But then they that's just the front that they put on.

(26:38):
And then when they they hear the music come on
where it's time for them to make that walk, they're like,
you know what I.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Mean, it's not the fun of a time anymore.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
And after you get like knocked out a couple of times,
and I don't know this is that you can see
it on a lot of these fighters with once they
get that knockout, they just ain't the same.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, well that's what I'm worried about Volk where like
I feel like I see him, I see him on
socials posts and like all right, I'm back, or like
he's like focused and he's energized and he's ready to go.
But then at the same time, I'm worried that we're
gonna run into a situation where like the knockouts really
did affect him, like him losing those last what three
like those are really really gonna affect them.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
In a bad way.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
I don't know if he's gonna I don't know he
took some time off. I don't know if that's gonna
be enough to kind of like, you know, dust the
coboebs off and he comes back like a lot more
alert and focus and ready to reclaim the belt and
get that thrown back. Or if it's now Diego Lopez's
time and it's him showing that he's that guy and
he's gonna be the new champ at one forty.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Five, I feel like he's gonna be Diego just because
I don't know. I can see, I can see like
I could imagine if I, let's say I got knocked
out right that's probably gonna be in the back of
my mind. As much as you're a fighter, you you
you still now there's a tiny level of doubt on

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the next fight. Oh for this is there's a chance
I do get knocked out this fight.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Dude, you gotta think about it this way, like you're
worried that you're gonna get clipped at any moment. And
then I guess it depends on the person that you're fighting,
but it also I think it also changes the way
that you fight. Like, for example, maybe this time he
goes a lot more like grapple heavy. You know, he's
just like, you know what, I'm just gonna wrestle him.
I'm just gonna take him, talk control the whole time, pause,
and I'm just gonna make sure that this doesn't go

(28:25):
anywhere where I'm putting some serious danger. But then having
that in your back of your mind, what happens if
that plan doesn't work?

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Now?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
What now you're freaking out? Now you're bugging out because
you're like, I don't know what to do. What's playing beat?
We'll playing be now is that you gotta strike with him.
But now you're worried that you're gonna get clipped the
whole time, you're like, are you putting yourself in the
position for success anymore? Or you know what I mean,
messing up and you're zigging when you should azagged. Next thing,
you know, you're waking up and someone's like, you lost, bro,

(28:52):
what what happened? That's that's a situation. You know what'll
be in Man' I don't know. I have Diego Lopez
winning that one. I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
I feel like who else is? It's gonna be a
good one, but I feel like Diego Lopez is time.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Everybody seems to leave that division.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah, I mean I think the next the next person
that's like up and coming would be Figgy Davis and Figuredo.
He's somebody that that's on the rise. I feel like,
I don't know, man.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
And they have him against them, but he's not even
I don't know if he's gonna be moving up that
much because I think he's only one thirty five right now.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Let's see, let's.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Tell it right, so then they then they give him
a new fight. Let's see the ranking.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Let's pull up the rankings here.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Where we at, where we're at, where we're at by
the way, okay, oh, they haven't changed a whole lot.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Then no, actually no, that's on me. That's on me.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Figgy's in one what is it, one thirty five, one
forty five? No, I would say. So we got Volk, Max, Diego,
Mousvar and Ya Year are the top five, so I
see it this way.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
The Max is also moving up to one fifty five.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Oh okay, okay, we got Iliam now moving up to
one forty five, so that clears out though two out
of those top five we got Volte versus Diego Lopez
winner of that's the new champ that we got mozar
Ev Looev on the way up, so I guess he
fights whoever the winner is. But then now we also
got again part of the breaking news, we got Patricio Pipple,
who is a former Bellator champion who was a part

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of the whole Bellator merging into be PFL situation, a
topic I wanted.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
To go over.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
That was just like so many of those guys are
just like begging and pleading on Twitter. They're like, please
give me a fight, I need to check, I want
to fight. But it's also like a part of it,
like their careers are being put on hold, Like these
guys get a window of when they're like at their
peak athleticism and they're like the best, and if they're
just putting a put on the shelf, they're not going

(30:43):
to get that experience to be able to do Like we.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Talk about it with ring rust and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
So with him, that was he's part of that group
of people that were like, you have a champion that's like, bro,
let me go. I need to go fight somewhere else
because you clearly aren't doing it. And now he gets
a fight against who yeah, yea Rodriguez who's also number five.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
So I see him being put in.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
The Michael Chandler position when Michael Chandler first showed up
on the scene, gets a crazy big win, maybe he
fights one more time and then he gets a title
shot or even if the one debut win is so crazy,
title shot right after. So then you have him also
in the mix of possibly being a contender for the title.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
So that's also pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
You get somebody who's like that same kind of funnel
system of like coming over who's already like well established
that's going to be coming over to the UFC to
be able to get a shot.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
I like that too.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Do you think he's on his He's he's a little older, right.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
He is a little older.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, do you think this is still his prime?

Speaker 3 (31:39):
I'd say he's got a couple more fun ones. But
he's still good. That's the thing is that, like.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
How how much longer can he eat?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
It's the It's the same thing that we were just
talking about Izzy, You know what I mean. It's like
he's still good, but how many more does he get? Right?

Speaker 4 (31:53):
You know?

Speaker 1 (31:53):
How many more do you really want to be in
the first fight is clipped?

Speaker 4 (31:57):
That's another thing. It can go real bad, real bad,
because like what's what's his name? Where is he wors he?
Where's his name? No, it wasn't him.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Who is the last guy that Pantosia fought? No, I
wasn't What's what's what's what's dude's name?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (32:16):
It was the guy who came over from Japan Kaya
Sakura debut.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
He gets a title shot? Yeah, but he lost?

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Did he Does he stay?

Speaker 4 (32:26):
He stays?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
I think he stays, and I think he still gets
a couple more cool fights. But like it's a it's
a situation like that where it's like a lot of
people don't necessarily know who you are, and then you're
gonna come into this big organization.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
You're gonna trying to make a big splash, and then
maybe you don't do so.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Hot well weight classes.

Speaker 7 (32:40):
He who uh, Pantosia flyway Flyway?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
What if he's what if he comes back and just
like still takes over even though he lost that fight.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
He could listen like it's the thing of like, hey,
maybe it just wasn't your day.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yeah, I mean he did. I will say this, Pantosia
put it on him.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Ye, Pantosia dogged him, so I don't I wouldn't say,
but you never know.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
You came weight class and fought the best.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, he one of them at this point, Like you
gotta throw him in pound for pound, like maybe top five.
Pantos the beast man. He's been doing his Yo, I'm
a fan. After he won the belt, that was.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Like pantos Storia, I was. I don't know why, but
I like I gravitated to this style of fighting.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
They're both just like very aggressive and like their performance
is always exciting. Like I feel like Pantosia because the
light aweight guys you don't really think about him too
much every time I watched this fight, like, this guy's
really good, but I never really paid too much attention
to him. And then like it was I think a
lot of people were on the same wave, Like he
got the title and he did the whole thing where he's.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Like, are you proud of me now?

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Dad? Are you proud of me now?

Speaker 3 (33:45):
And I was like, I'm watching you more often. I'm
gonna keep an eye on this guy. This guy, this
guy's pretty cool. I don't know why, but I was
like that. That really was like, all right, you got me,
you got me. Every now that you find your thing,
You're like, I find my fan if I'm a fan.
But with the with patricial piple, I he can make
a splash. I feel like it'd be cool to see him.
That'd be an interesting one to just kind of pop up.
And like comparing him to Michael Chandler, Oh boy, Michael

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Chandler wading on nice for that Connor McGregor fight.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Here we are, Paddy.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Pimblet, Patty Pimblet. Is it a fall?

Speaker 3 (34:16):
I would say so. Is it a soft landing? I
would also say so.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I think it's a I think it's like just right
for him.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
I would say, for him where he's at in his career, yes,
but I would say the same thing. It's like he
it's weird because it's the same position with like Connor McGregor,
where I'm like, fight matchup.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Good good call here, good call.

Speaker 8 (34:42):
But he would have made so much more money, all right,
but hopefully hopefully the UFC paid him just they were like,
we are so sorry.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Here's here's a good chunk.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Of change, and here's a nice hefty promise behind this fight.
Just do your thing and you're not We'll take care
of you later, like something. Because at this point, like
I'd be so mad about was him. You get this,
you do the whole thing with the Ultimate Fighter was
now that season was.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Two years ago, I think even three.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
The whole Ultimate Dude, you do the whole thing, and
the Ultimate Fighter trying to fight at the end of
the summer doesn't happen. Then you're waiting and wait to
wait in because all this speculation of him on doing
this that and the third of partying and what happens
doesn't happen, and then the whole court cases start happening.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Yeah, it's still not fighting, and you're just sitting there.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Chandler ended up losing to someone, right, Like.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
It's the most recent yeah right, See, this is how
long it's been to this dude's been fighting.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Bro, I'm telling you, I.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Don't even know.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
I think that this is gonna be a good matchup
for him. I think it's gonna be a nice little
middle ground where it's somebody of a good name. But like,
I don't know if it's necessarily gonna like a win
over over Patty isn't necessarily gonna boost your rankings or
anything like that.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
It's not gonna get you a title shot or anything
like that.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
But that's why I'm hoping that, Yeah, he stays, Like,
but I hope he gets paid. Charles Levera. He took
a fight against Charles Levera again and then he lost again. Yeah,
I think man at this point does see, Like I mean,
I don't know if they put that that Connor mcgregord
fight on ice for him later or what happens with that, Like,
I don't know if they necessarily are just kind of
hold that or if Connor's done in the US.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Might be might you hear he's going to He's trying
to get into bare knuckles.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
He's I don't know he's gonna fight in bare knuckle,
because I know that he's one of like the co
owners or something along those lines. He's definitely a big
face of the bare knuckle right now. But I don't
know if they're necessarily gonna let like they be in
the UFC, are gonna let him fight in bare knuckle,
because it's like, Yo, you still got two fights or
whatever on this contract here, Like we're gonna if we're
not gonna get you know, something crazy, we're still gonna

(36:47):
use these two fights.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
I would love to still see even though like with
all this madness, still imagine he wins one fight before
he leaves. Could be anyone, because it doesn't have to
be a freaking back to the bad. I think I
think it.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
It's a weird thing with him, but I think Davey
gets that one.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
I think a lot of people are like, all right.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
They're like, they're like, all right, this was like a
top ten, not really like a I don't even know, maybe,
but that was the whole thing with Michael Chandler at
the time. Everybody was like, this is a good fight
with someone who's exciting someone.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
You could beat someone who's like gonna really put on
a show.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
But if he beat Patty two years though Island versus England,
that would be good. I think that's a good little
freaking why not.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
I feel like that would that would be really good
for Patty and I can see that happening, and I
think Patty, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
I think Patty handles him. Yeah, I feel like if
Patty went gets.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Him on the ground, get him on the ground. Though
I don't think I think on the stand up, I
think Connor might light him up. I'm not gonna lie
to you more for sure, but I think I can
see Patty winning that one. It's just the fact that
Connor has been out for so long and he's partying
and doing one I don't see, like listen, I at
least see other people training or whatever, you know what
I mean posting. Everything I see of Connor now when
it comes across my feet, is him lit out of

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his mind in some rave discotheque in some country. I
don't know what's going on with that record.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Lapping you shout out to the record label, green Back Records.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
I'm gonna let you know the whole thing is staying
in Yeah, but that that is a firm call.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Wholes thing is staying green Back Records is crazy sponsored
the pot if they never make another album, I don't care, insane.
I feel that though out of anything you could be
doing two years off, he's over here with a record label, man,
whatever piece to him.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
I guess, man, I don't know, man, but.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
I really don't know. The only thing the only person
I see this is an up for right now is Patty.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
If anything, I guess Chandler is just like, at this point,
let me just get paid. I gott I still gotta
feed my family, I still gotta take care of what
I got to take care of.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Let me just get paid. Let me put on exciting fights.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
If I feel like the best it's unfortunately, because like
if the fight still happens, great, But the best thing
that I feel like he can do right now is
just keep fighting and put that away from him.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
Then people just.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Kind of like it'll still be there. But I feel
like it's a blemish on his record.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
But it's not his.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Fault, right right, He lost to Charles Oliver, But like
there's there's a lot of these fighters that I feel
like are great fighters, just stay staying in lane. You
know what I'm saying, don't the ones that tried, like
math and Michael Sandler is somebody that's like, don't fight

(39:25):
the contenders, well that to stay around the ten. Well,
it's true.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
It's like if you do well, you kind of move up.
But I will say that there's a lot of fighters
that are like that where it's like they win two,
they lose two, they win three, they lose four. What
happened there?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Like, but it's I get you, you're you're like they're
like the ones where like I'd like to see this
in like a car accident for sure, Like like I
don't know, man, There's there's a quite a few fighters
that I feel like are in that world.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
I will also it's it's a it's a.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Weird thing where some of them it's like maybe it's
a skilled thing, but other ones, it's like there's something
there where like I know you can you're you're just
missing this gear that you just.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Needed, you know what I mean, figure out and you could.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Be For example, I never thought Sean Strickland was gonna
be a champion. Yeah, right, look where he was at
for a little bit, Like that's pretty impressive to me.
So there's a lot of other fighters where I feel
like are kind of like, for example, Michael Chandler had
a path. Michael Chandler when he first got there, I
was like, see you at the top. I was a fan,
I'm still a fan, and I was like, I could

(40:23):
see him getting to that belt. But you know, circumstances
of situations. He came across a lot of fighters. We
started seeing the holes in the game. Charles Lavera became
the guy, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
We saw him like the same.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
People that can like you're just good enough to get
to like three, to get to three and then you
don't have that gear to be champion.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Well what about Max Holloway.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Now, like all love to him, but what was three
shots against Folklanovski and one against the Poria has not
touched that belt?

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Crazy, like just it's right.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
There, just knit and just can't you gotta give him
to Uh.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
That's another one.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
I mean technically he held interim like he was an
interim like champion for a little bit, but he never
got like unified. I'm change the kind of status. But
he's another one where like he's fought the best of
the best, went to war, won a lot of them,
but hasn't you know what I mean, there's like something
that's like just kind of right there.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
And then he goes, Max Holloway gonna go out just
to fucking That has been the memes that I've seen
this so funny.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah, Max Holloway upset looking at his phone seeing the
news of Iliotporia.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
Also moving up to.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Because at that point we didn't even have to fight
at such a low wight class. No, we could have.
We could have had cut down. Yeah, yeah, we car
did I cut down. We could have done this way earlier.
It would have been a way. It could have been
a crazier fight.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
I think I think it would have been because, like,
I don't know, he looked he looked like real comfortable
at one fifty five gait.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
He felt he looked like he was like that's what
you should be. He's a taller.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
I feel like one forty five or for me, I
feel like one fifty five is where he should be
at now.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
I mean he's not.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I think it's weird to be.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Like he was a little older, but he's still like
thirty or thirty one or something like that. It's weird
to think about, right, bro. I remember, like before I
really got into watching UFC, I was playing like you've
see one and you'll see.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Two on like like way back on like the Xbox
and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
And he's always in the games.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, he's been in the games for ever.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
So I was saying, like, it's weird to think about him,
like still at it, but like still so young, and like,
besides the Iliot thing, he's never really been seriously like
hurt or knocked out.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
He's been in wars for sure.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
He's taken some damage, but like never anything where you're
like it's like you see him with diminishing returns. Do
you see him kind of like dropping down off his game?

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Nothing like that.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
But I don't know, man, I'd be upset about with
him and be like, damn man, we could have done
this some one with five. I didn't have to do
all that weight cut and you didn't have to do
that weight cut either, Like we could have been chilling, bro,
Like maybe.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Does he not have that champion gear.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
He does?

Speaker 3 (42:52):
I think it's just it's his situation is a timing thing.
It's the same thing as like a Dustin Porian. There's
a few other guys where it's like, man, you're so good,
but damn there's one guy.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, there's always somebody slightly better.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Well, Volkanowski like in his way class. I don't know
necessarily if he just like never went up to one
fifty five to fight Islam, if he met with Iliya
without ever fighting Islam, if he would have beat him,
you know what I mean. If it's that you never know,
with the timing of everything and like how things go,
it could have been a situation where genuinely like that's

(43:27):
just a better guy, or.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
It's a situation of like timing in situations like as.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Good as Max is. I don't I can't see him
beating Islam.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Because for example, Uh and mccanno getting the getting the
title shot on a day's notice or whatever you think.
If he had a full camp towards Islam, because he
had a full camp going up against the Neil, but
a full camp where he focused on Islam fighting Islam,
he would have the outcome would have been different.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
No, no, never, No, that's no one you can tell
like he Isla would have Uh, don't get you out.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
We would have done it anyway.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
He would have figured you out from the beginning.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Right now, I can't sit here and tell you that
I think Ilia like proves a threat to Islam, And
I'm I'm also gonna sit here and tell you that
I don't think that anybody, at for the most part,
not anybody. I would say, like, there's a good amount
of people at like one seventy to Islam because it
ragged all handled like pretty well.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
I would say, like a shot cut would give him
some problems.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
But I don't think necessarily that a lot of the
guys at one seventy he would have like too much
difficulty with.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
He would handle a good amount of those guys. So
that's the person where you're like, it's like the same
because John Jones whor you're just like, dude, I'm sorry,
but he's just a guy, yea.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
Like there's other people that John Jones'.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Faught where you're like, man, this guy's incredible, but you
had to fight John joneson So sorry, right, I'm so sorry,
Like you could have been the guy. But you know,
GSP existed or whatever it might be. You know, it's
just it just wasn't your time. But then now, over time,
you know, things change. But then that's also the thing
of like the conversation to goat, it's a goat within
a generation, within a situation, within a moment, you know

(44:58):
what I mean, Like year, there's a passing of the torch.
I guess the topics of the gener of this episode
is like the generations now, you know what I mean, changing,
and we're changing the gears and we're handing it over
to the new guys, and it's just.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
We're just seeing the change right now. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
All the old guys are kind of like fading away
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Some of them are still in there, but it's it's
the thing of like watching them, I guess, start to
get older in their career and making the right decisions
because some of them need to go.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Some of them are deciding to stay. And I don't
know why, Like.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Like ill love still, but Henry Sahudo, dude, I feel
like you gotta go. Yeah, Like it's not that he's
not like he could fight, but now he's at the
point where it's like those middle the middle you know,
I mean, you're fighting six through ten or whatever. Yeah,
maybe but I don't know necessarily if you're gonna be
at the championship level and at this point where you

(45:57):
have this crazy credentialed career, this is how you want
to go out, you know, I don't know necessarily, Like
an Anthony Smith who's now with his retirement fight for
a while, Anthony Smith has been on this path of
like he's kind of like middle of the pack fighter.
It's it's about time to wrap up, and he recognizes
that let me take the fight, let me go. Now,

(46:18):
you get the other guys who are fighting in the
GFL or over here that are like forty seven, that
are lacing up the gloves again, You're like, are.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
You sure about this? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
This is a smart idea, but I guess they just
can't get out of the game.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Is this all they know?

Speaker 4 (46:33):
So they know, but it's not. It's not.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
But it's not hooping in an over in a men's
over forty league, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Like, this is a this is a you're fighting, This is.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
A like lego er league at forty.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
But even even I feel like football players after a while,
they're like, maybe flag, maybe we just play flag.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
We just deal with that.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
We're not going to get We're not There's no needed
for the pads. I'm not tackling nobody.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
These are going to be good fights, like the GFL fights,
I think so.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
I think there's a few of them actually, because they're
not all They're not all like older.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Look fucking washed up, the tired by.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
I guess I think it. I think it just all
depends on how they put on the fights, because I
think the issue.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
With like like the PFL.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
PFL has some good fighters, but I feel like the
product that they put on, Like when I'm actively watching it,
I'm not a fan of at all, so I don't
focus on any of it.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
But every now and then I catch a fight where
I'm like, who are these guys?

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Who are these girls?

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Like I need to I need to follow them, like
what's going on? These people are amazing, but the presentation
needs to be worked on. It's the same thing with
the GFL. They they got some pretty good fighters that
are in there and some guys that are like on
the older side, but I'm still gonna watch them fight.
So I feel like if they put on a good
performance and they also put on a good product to
show them I'm in, I'm sold presented.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
You got to present it well, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
You gott to present it well. If they don't present
it well, then I'm not tuning in. That's the only
thing they gotta They gotta make it look good and.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Like as big as ae W's gang. Yeah, I don't know.
I can't. I can't switch up and start watching it.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
I don't even watch w W to get into AF
I know presentation has to be up to par with
w W E.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
For me, it's that's the thing that's tricky with those
types of organizations where sometimes they don't have the money
like a UFC, unless they have a backing from some
random person that wants to like build it.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
But for the most part, they're not gonna have that.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
I think the best thing they can do is like
like a one Championship does, and you gotta do something different,
just make yourself a different type of thing.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Like you.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
I don't think if you try to model.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Yourself after the UFC, unless you have some of the
best fighters on the planet, you're not going to be
bigger than them, and then.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
It's gonna be like w CW.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Yeah, And unfortunately, the best fighters on the planet are
gonna want to go to WWE over being at WCW.
They're gonna make that crossover, you.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Know what I mean, We're gonna have the money they wore.
The e c ws are are street beefs on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
That's what that is. That's ECW that actually realisted bare knuckles.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Bare knuckle is e c W for like PFL baby
is h w c W.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
No, Yeah, I'd say I would say w c W
or Today's ae W.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah, yeah, I say.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
That that's what they're at.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
They I don't know, man, they like they do it
all right, but I feel like right now they're on
a yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
TN, that's even better. They're CNA.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
They're CNA, man, we too.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
I feel like I literally never watch wrestling, but every
time it just goes right back. It's just too easy
to compare it to Yeah, it's too easy. I feel
like if they had again, I always go back to this.
I feel like if the UC started doing some WWE
like promo stuff.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
It'd be fantastic.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Yeah, and none of that obviously not prescripted fights or
anything like that, but at least, like I don't know, man,
I feel like, tell me it wouldn't be sick to watch,
Like I don't know, let me think John Jones, tom Asbroat.
They get to walk out and it's pyrotechnics. They have
the Jumbo trod they have like the previous fights.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
You just see the clip of John Jones.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
With veto or like this, he just drows his body
like you just see that on a big screen behind
John he's walking out, you know.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
What I mean, like montage.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
I know it's more production they got to put into it,
and it's a lot more things they got to figure out.
But I think the fans would be like very much
into it because I think one championship they do like
they do cool walkouts.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
BFL doesn't release.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
They have to have like cool presentation to it where
like you know how like smack down that big fist, Yeah,
something like whatever, Ormageddon crazy. It's always a theme. It's
always a theme.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Well they go to all the different cities, so they
can do something for that, or if it's gonna be
like a holiday or something like that, that'd be cool.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
The Giant name them, name the events and maybe name.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
The go the numbers, I guess it's always the numbers.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Uh four hundred Battle of the fucking I think.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
I think that's too many names type tape it in
a chat TBT they pop up because at that point
that's too many names to go over.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Man, let's see what else. What else got announced Ballah
Mohammed versus Jack Dela Madalena.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
So this will was interesting. Everybody was waiting for Belall
versus shot Cut to get announced and that did not happen.
According to reports, shot Cut is injured. Unfortunately. By reports,
I mean his Twitter apparently he's injured. So he had
a back out of that one. He said, listen, guys,
I will get my shot, but it will be later
on this year unfortunately.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
But JDM got stepped up. It's a week notice.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
He was like a minute, I mean, the fight is
gonna happen in two weeks, but it's gonna happen in
a few months.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
But imagine that, like good for at least good for
him because he he's gonna fight Leon Edwards.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
He was gonna fight Leon Edwards, and they swapped him
out of that fight and they put him in the
title shot.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
So you're thinking, like you're so now all of a sudden,
like oh what do you Oh, I'm gonna get a
bigger check, bigger check. Oh I got a chance of
you know what I'm saying, Like, you're preparing for this
Leon Edwards fight, which is still like a lot of
preparation for yep.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
So you you're I want to.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
See, you're gonna be ready for ballall. But because it's
a whole different style.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Very different style, I would say you also like, I
think you wouldn't be upset because either way, I think
you kind of prepped for that.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
And you're like, you're in your mind, I think you
never want to think ahead of it.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
But at the same time, you're like, if I beat Leon,
I'm next, Like I'm next, I'm in that pool. I'm
not prepared. Yeah, Like at some point you got to
keep that in your mind. And I don't think, to
be fair, I don't. I don't see him being no.
I think, yeah, yeah, I'm all people slept.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
I was so shocked on the Leon Edwards fight, and
like I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
I wasn't just.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Because at the time I don't think I knew who,
like just like that security with security that didn't recognize them. Yeah,
that was me a couple a couple of fights ago. Yeah,
I did not know how much of a dominant Islam Like.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
I would say, like, he's always been kind of like
that guy, but I would say that's a little it's
been a little bit more recent for me.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Where was it?

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Where would I Where did I like? Oh? There it is?

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Oh him versus.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
One boy Thompson is where I was like, hold on,
I was kind of doing this thing and that's how
him versus Luke. And then the one that really got
me was him versus him versus Sean Brady. He knocked
him out and I was I I'd never seen him
put hands on somebody like that. I was like, he's
evolving every single fight, get to a point where I

(53:20):
can't like every time I see his name, people like
people would joke about like forget the name or all
that kind of stuff. Is his nickname Again, I'm not
a big fan of bell. I'll remember the name, like
you gotta change it. But a lot of people would
clown on him. But I'm like, no, guys, he's actually
like a pretty good fighter. I think it's one of
those things of like, depending on who he's fighting, he
fights the way he needs.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
To to win.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
So sometimes it's not the most exciting fight. And a
lot of the times it's to a decision, so it's
like the same thing as who am I thinking of.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Where you're like decision machine, And every now and then you.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Get excited, but for the most part you're like, all right,
I know what I'm getting.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
I know, I know it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
And at this point, but especially all the dag standings,
you kind of I'm kind of getting to appreciate the
ground game, Like it doesn't if like a ballall fight
excites me more than it used to. Yeah, or like
if they on the ground the whole time, I'm not
I'm not even upset about it.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
Sometimes no, if it's if it's work.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
No, I like to see in the art of it sometimes, yeah,
like oh he especially like takedown defense. I find that
part very interesting.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Yeah, if there's a good commentator too, because like guys
uneducated MMA, if you understand the brand, I don't know
what's going on a lot of other times, or at
least I understand kind of what's going on, but I don't.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Understand the technique.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
So like if if there's like a Joe Rogan or
somebody like that, that's kind of or even a Laura
Sanko who's really breaking down like the movement. DC does
a good job where like they make it at least
easy enough for me to comprehend, Like Okay, I see
what's understand what's happening, and I understand the small things
the way they're shifting.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Their weight, the moving know the like ever so slightly
the hit.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
I definitely have been learning a lot. Yeah, like sometimes
every thinking like if I was in a fight right now,
I know to like you know, say, find by way
to what's it called.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
We have really become those guys over like I know
what to do that. We have no training. We're like, man,
I watched I know what to do over here.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Regular regular not it's a regular human being, not not
somebody that trains no no, no no, like passing to
like the side I can't even side control, get full
them out and like you play the games and you
also see it the game.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
You do the training, so you see the move and
you're like, I see what they do?

Speaker 1 (55:40):
They get this?

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Get hey Max I always said he learned some moves
from playing UFC five, So like that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
I'm be out here playing u C five, watching a
few CE no, maybe I can do an on bar.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Someone's gonna come up to us in the stream, so
I heard, you know, you'll see him like, I don't know, UFC.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Man, whatever, let's get it.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
I don't know, man, we'll figure it out. I think
Bela is gonna get that easy dub. I think that
he's gonna fight Shavkot probably after in a weird world,
if JDM wins, I say, then if Islam then beats Ilia,
that's the next fight. Then Islam's going for that one
seventy belt. The moment that Balal is no longer champion,

(56:20):
Islam's like a.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
White Yeah, yeah, that's not it. Just like like I.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Think it's gonna be immediate, Like I don't. I don't
think that they're gonna hold off on that at all.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
But would you think, especially because if loses, he'd probably
want another chance back to this, you think he yeah,
it depends.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Well, I will say, like toes right now, right now
the way that he it is, I I don't know, man,
I don't know if the UC like has beef with him,
but they definitely like they're like yeah, but you know
what I mean, Like they don't have a lot of
excitement for him.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
So like if I noticed that anybody, anybody that's slightly like.

Speaker 6 (57:02):
I don't even want to say the thing is for me,
it's like you gotta put on exciting fight, like for example,
like that whole wrestling style and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
I've always said the comparison, it's different when it's like
you're just wrestling wrestling them, you're hugging them, you're holding.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Them to the ground, versus Kobieber's.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Like I smash your boy.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Yeah. You see him getting on top top control and
he's literally just like elb El Sam holding the wrists,
just dropping an elbow.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
You're like Jesus Christ, he's.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Mauling the person to do that. Yeah. And then if
I was in those shoes, I would now because of
this like risk control, I would think, okay, drop an elbow.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
Here tu you're immediately you're locking the legs. I figure
four risk control. I'll tell you we learned. We know
we're not uneducated, no more learning. Take some title boxing class.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Yes, I'm so like, uh not that I can't wait
to like give it. I'm just curious now, like what
like I know more than I used to.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
No, Yeah, you want to see what happens. Like I
feel like after a little bit, you're like, oh, we'll
test it out. But that's why I want to I
want to get into training. I feel like at a
certain point, like I keep saying, I took I talk
enough about it. We're like at this point, like I'm
gonna start reaching out to to gym's and seeing what's up,
and we'll take a couple of classes see where I'm at,
and you know, see we get educated in this uneducated space.

(58:24):
You feel me, But I don't know, man, I think
I think that this is this is the showing of
like we are learning too much where like even Melvine
the other day was saying, you cannot call yourself an
educated anymore, like you are literally like the way you
were speaking right now, I was like, yeah, I get it, man,
But it's just me being a degenerate. I'm just like,
nothing else catches my attention except for fighting. For some reason,

(58:46):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
I can get. Even earlier we talked about like TV
shows and whatnot. Nah, we'll drop it all saturdays.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Fights, I'm sorry, fights, Like it's just it's it's in
my blood.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
At this point, I don't know. Growing up right fights
with like boxing fights was huge. I just feel like
that's just the way of life, Like we're supposed to
be this into fighting.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I get it, like as as entertainment, Like there's definitely
something there where I'm like, there's a reason that I'm
like locked into this.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I'm supposed to like I'm supposed to be into this,
but I feel it kind of a part of me
sometimes feels like like I'll get videos right unless it
would be like like snapchatted me and send me the
video later just to show me how ridiculous I'm being
where I'm yelling spear at my TV and it feels
like a cave man who stemming fire. She's like, but
this time like moments like yo, yea degenerous Yeah, Like

(59:44):
more so, why aren't you a degenerate? Yeah? Yeah, It's
like wait a second, you say it like it's a
bad thing. I'm thinking, like, if you're not a degenerate,
that's a bad thing.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
My thing is is like so far, like I have
plenty of friends that aren't as into it as I am,
but let it be on the TV.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Immediately They're like, whoa, how is this not entertaining to
any I think it's like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
The it's a big sign to me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
If you're sitting if you're in my living room and
I have like live fights on and you're just like
on your phone not paying attention, it's a big sign.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
How is this not intriguing in any way or catching
your intention at any way? Because dude just got his
fucking face.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
He's leaking right now, He's leaking on the canvas, and
you don't care, not even a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
He's got caught with an elbow flying kick and that
didn't excite you the slightest.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Even a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
I saw the most beautiful spinning heel kick in my
life and you didn't even battle eye.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yes, the fucking double backfist, the.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Double backfast, and you didn't cry even a little bit.
Come on, that's how you know that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
I'm addicted. Man, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
I stumbled across it one day and I was like, yes,
this is it for me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
I was a world star street fights.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
Well that's my thing is fight com That catches my eye. Unfortunately,
what I'm on every.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Time everyone I remember there was a point I'd go
through every compilation that they had on WorldStar dot Com.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Yeah, young, Well it was weird things like I remember
like not like I guess I might have seen a
little bit of the UC when I was younger, but
not really.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Like I never really like locked in on it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
But like I will say this, I definitely remember being
in middle school getting sent YouTube links like you gotta
see this, what's this? And it's Kimbo Slice in some
backyard in Florida putting the mythst on some dude who
was clearly not wanting to be in that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
It was such a legend, man, because that was the
beginning of YouTube in a.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Way, like because that's when I started, like I remember,
like the real intro into when I started learning at
least some of the fighters name was getting UC one
or two on like Xbox and sixty or something like
that and playing it on. Then that's when I was like, oh, okay,
I kind of see what's going on here, like this
is dope, but I never knew.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Where to watch it. But in the beginning was very
like oh, like style driven, yeah, like this is my
hopefully this wins.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Yeah you know, like well I think it's way better now, yeah,
way better because when it's hard, it's like the same
thing as like when someone's trying to show you like
a classic movie or something like that, they like, watch
this fight. There are some where you go back you're
like crazy. But I remember, like the a few weeks ago,
it's like, let me see you see like one through ten, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
Like, get this off my teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Yeah, get this out of here, because.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
It's it's like it's like watching it's like watching World
Star fights at that point, Like that's what I'm That's
what I feel like I'm witnessing right now where you're like,
either you're watching.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
This disorganized fucking madness.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Either it's a car crash, or it's two people that
are like they're kind of similar but they're both terrible,
or you get something where it's like, Okay, one guy
is clearly overly powered right now and he is murdering
somebody legally in an octagon.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
I don't know how I feel about it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Just the evolution of fighting. It's just like how bra
Skalbreni was saying, like the evolution of basketball plays, how
like back then, it's just like it doesn't compare to
what it is now. No, No, like the same way
with fighting, where like there's no way. I sorry, Like
I know there's a lot of great legends, but this
there's no way you do a Chuck with Dell in
this era.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
And I want to tell you, I want to put
it to you this way. Chuck late was what two five? Yeah,
all right, who's the two five champion right now, Alex Perra.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
There's no way.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
This is Chuck left hook Chuck, Yeah, Chuck with Chuck
chuckle down is prime?

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
No, no way, no fucking way. I think I was like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
The only thing is like and again it's hard because
it's like I'm, I guess a newer fan, but like
talking to these guys and everybody still puts like bj
penn up on the like you know, so a BJ
pen F one seventy so like him versus an Islam
who wins.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
There's no fucking way. No, there's no Jesus, I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Don't even know a lot about.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
I'm like, I feel like it's easier, That's what I'm saying, Like,
let's see, no way who's that? So the only one
that I would say is like, all right, yeah, it
would be like prime GSP one eighty five champion versus
blob Mohammed, I could see GSP.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
You know what I mean, doing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Like I don't even want to put disrespect his name,
but that's even a tough one to overcome.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Well what I'm saying, but I'm putting his name up
with with the GSPS.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
So he might be.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
He might be there for sure, but I don't know.
It's crazy to think about.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
But yeah, no, man, these generation gaps, they definitely are there,
and a lot of them. You just like maybe while
you're in it, you don't notice it, but then after
a while you're like, you're noticing the.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
Same group of guys kind of going through the same
kind of motions.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
You're like, damn, man, this is is bad. We'll cut
to this past fight, fighting that just passed by. We're
recording this. I don't know when this will be out.
We'll figure it out.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Jared Cannoneer who just won and he's forty.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
And Angela Hill who also won and she's also forty.
So that's what I was saying earlier, Like some of
these people like it's all depending on the matchups. I
will say, like, you definitely understand that the caliber that
they bring to the table has gone away a little
bit and you're like TI shot, maybe not middle pack,
probably your spot though you got this, you got this

(01:05:04):
for sure, that lock in there and you're golden.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
But so I guess maybe some people that like we're
ahead of their time back in the day, and maybe
they can blend in in this era. Like I I've
been watching a lot of through my basketball research, if
it can. There's some people like that are just clearly
like Jesus Christ, this guy sucks, yeah, even though he's

(01:05:28):
a legend. Yeah. And then there's some people like, wait
a second, you remind me of a modern player, you know.
I feel like there's some fighters maybe they had that
modern style back then that weren't maybe didn't translate back then,
but if they were in this era, maybe I could
see that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
I can see that happening. Because also, like if you're
if you're talking about like are you saying like they're
take them and then they just they're raised in this
modern mma, like how they would adapt to it. I
would say a lot of them would be able to
adapt to it. If if because like back then, there
weren't all these schools, you didn't have all these camps,
so you weren't able to like go train in multiple
different states or multiple different countries and get that different

(01:06:06):
look back then, even when we're talking like you can
even you can even chalk it up to like maybe
ten fifteen years ago, even then, that to now has
also been a huge jump because of like how easily
accessible it is to be able to communicate with each
other and kind of like cross train and whatever. I
think there's a lot of the older fighters that would
benefit from that now if we're talking to like take

(01:06:28):
them and their style and bring them now.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
A lot of them get killed, Yeah, a lot of
a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
This is one I was watching, Like this player is
Jerry West on the Freaking He's in the fifties sixties,
and I was thinking, like, out of all these players,
you look just like this player, like Tyler Hero. I
was thinking, like such a modern style, Like let's say,
what's the style that's killing it right now?

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Well, I will say, like if if with that, if
you I feel like you can still focus on like
one aspect of the game that maybe not a lot
of people Like That's the another thing this guy was
talking about, Like you focus on something that not a
lot of people are focusing on.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
You open up this new lane where there's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
A window of time that you will be the best
at it until they adapt tell what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
So that's another thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
So like maybe there's like like and in all sense
you also hear in fighting because that's the sport that
I watched the most, but you hear it a lot
in other other sports as well. It's all about the fundamentals,
like are you keeping up with the fundamentals, So like
sometimes doing some of the flashy stuff that maybe like nowadays,
everybody in their grandmother wants to hit a flying knee
or a spinning heel, kick it and then get that
crazy highlight mode. But maybe they're not going to get that.

(01:07:36):
But you hit somebody with a clean one two like
a Kamara Usman to a damn Jorge Mas withal ye,
Like it's a beautiful shot either way, and it's still
a crazy highlight moment, but it's really simple.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I feel like to be able to maybe not, but
like for me, before I focus on great all the
like crazy moves and great things, I always go back
to fundamentals to make sure that's as sharp as possible,
so that when I try a crazy move that's way

(01:08:11):
easier I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
It's just like you need a base. You need the bass,
you need the base. You can't just be just fucking
I don't know. I'm trying to translate it, but like
I don't know sport I don't know sportball. It's all good,
but like, fundamentals is key for everything. I think.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
No, I feel you. I feel you at the end
of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
You got to know the fundamentals to be able to
build off of that and get into the crazy stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
You got to know how to throw the one two,
to know how to throw the one two backfist s yeah,
right right, shout out ULLC five.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
I'd be learning.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
I could improve my combos.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
I feel like a lot of these guys are gonna
definitely have to sharpen up and they're gonna have to
see where because, dude, I'm telling you, with all these announcements,
the whole the whole landscape just changed.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
It's just in one night.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
They just like snow globe, snow globe.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
Here you go.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
We'll figure out what it afterwards. And I'm excited to
see it. And I think it's this We're definitely seeing
the changing of the guard. We're seeing a lot of
the older guard getting put to the test of like, yo,
you either perform or you're getting put out the pasture.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
There's a few of the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Guys now that we also saw in some of these
announcements where like you're kind of seeing them where there
are in their career and you're like, I don't think you're.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
A title shot contender anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Unfortunately, you're still a draw and at this point you
got to realign your focus to like at that point
becoming a money fighter. Like it's the same thing as
like you get a Kevin Holland where like he's been
a subject of our conversations often where like, man, he's good,
but man, he doesn't focus.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
Sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Man, he gets some dumb shit where you're like, all right,
I guess we're no longer going to be a title contender.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
We're just gonna be getting paid. And he's cool with it.
But at the end of the day, you're a prize fighter,
so get that prize.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
I ain't hating on it, man, it's just like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
I don't know, I forgot the point I was making.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Yeah, honestly, that's beautiful It's a perfect way to end
the episode of Uneducated MMA, Ladies and Gentlemen. I have
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Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
Let's see, let's see who else we got, who else
we got? I don't know, shout out, Shout out to
the fans.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Shout out to the fans, shout out to all the
shout out to Matt Doherty.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Shout out to Matt Doherty again.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
I don't know when this episode is gonna come out,
because this fight is in two days February twenty second
at Foxwood's shout out Matt Doherty, Salem's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Very own and new.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
I think that, I think, man, we gotta pull up
to his fights.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
I feel no, I feel like the scheduling we gotta
figure it out, man. I know, but you know here
at Uneducated m A were oversupporting for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
I'm not I haven't seen a live fight yet.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
No, we gotta go see Monday night.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
My thing is that, like it seems like in Boston
they don't really have a whole lot. But if Fox,
you just got to take a little bit of a
drive and we'll pull up. So who knows you might
see on educated MMA. We'll go get those those VIP
press passes. Soon you'll see some suits sold. You know
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you think today we'll see his suit.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
But shout out to everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
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Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
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Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Now, I'm telling you a lot of breaking news and
breaking breaking news, so I'm not gonna lie to you guys.
For the next couple of weeks, we got a couple
of fight nights coming up, so we're probably gonna come
at you with some episodes similar to this one, where
we're just gonna be going over some MMA news, some
crazy fight night details we're gonna go over. And the
next pay per view, we got UFC three thirteen Alex
pa Versus.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
We finally got the title shot with a Caliov. Don'll
see if the boy does the work.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
He's not a wrestler like everybody thinks. But as always,
thank you everybody for tuning in peace. Uneducated MMA follow us,
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